sk-discussion

[midnight jasper]

The Path of Pain was pretty fire

I did it on my first try, same for Mount Fay but I can see that PoP maybe took me like 30 mins longer

[quiet moat]

what do you mean you did path of pain first try

[untold dune]

without dying i guess? which like thats not very hard for path of pain in particular they give you constant infinite silk

[hearty wren]

Doing PoP in silksong? Wow

[untold dune]

nah they mean the hk one

[light swan]

i’m saddd

[untold dune]

why?

[still osprey]

I hope Silksong gets some kind of PoP in Mount Fay that'd be awesome

[light swan]

the phase 2 of the second final boss in mio

[indigo eagle]

I don’t care if the state of Italy is gonna hunt me down but I fucking enjoy pasta with ketchup

[light swan]

it’s theme isnt in the yt or spotify official osts

and its SO GOOD

[untold dune]

uh which one do you mean again?

[light swan]

||shii. || true final boss spoilers for mio

the second phase specifically isnt officially released

[untold dune]

i dont remember the 2nd phase having a different ost from the first ngl

i was probably too locked in to notice

[light swan]

there’s another melody on top of things as well as a wobwobwob dj sound thing that just increases intensity

but it’s just not in the official released ost

[untold dune]

oh shit this is hype af

yea why isnt this in the ost >:(

[light swan]

i had such a good time glazing and ranting about it

[slender juniper]

Christopher larkin was my top artist in 2025

I dont have a spotify premium anymore

Much better to invest in youtube premium

[glacial kelp]

the humble adblock user…

[agile wing]

Based chatters don't chat in #sk-discussion but instead chat in #hk-discussion

[hexed sonnet]

Team cherry decided to go easy on me and I got to exhaust organ in about 7 rooms.

The last best had me going through 15 before getting killed by a banshee

[still osprey]

The mist room count isn't random, you probably took a wrong turn at some point last time

[hexed sonnet]

Mustve been a massive wrong turn

[coarse leaf]

i gotta go over here

[slender juniper]

Mist is 2 rooms, checkpoint, 2 rooms,exhaust organ

[coarse leaf]

what is over here

[slender juniper]

Theres cheatcode for sinners road mist

If your going from bilewater mist the last room is always a left exit

If youre going from sinners road its always right exit

[eternal grail]

Can we agree the cogwork dancers fight is so good

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-boss-cogwork-dancers-robobug-gif-6457944157466118130

[leaden delta]

I mean it’s fine

[untold dune]

no it is so good you heretic

[regal isle]

Beautiful ost

[light swan]

isnt it 3 rooms

[eternal grail]

Exactly!! Blessed my ears when I first heard it

[regal isle]

"I mean its fine"
🔁translating🔁
"I have no good taste"💔💔

[regal isle]

Final phase was rly sad seeing the remaining bug try to hug the air

[still osprey]

Cogwork Dancers are awesome I love gay people

[eternal grail]

Yeah..

[slender juniper]

Idk I forgor

[knotty vapor]

where tf is Moorwing's double damage

💔

THEY CASTRATED MY BOY

[regal isle]

They got rid of double damage for projectiles

[hearty wren]

Fr ?

[still osprey]

It got nerfed on the first patch so the blades only deal 1 damage

[regal isle]

exactly💔💔

Ppl kept complaining brah

[still osprey]

Same with Sister Splinter's minions

[untold dune]

people are still complaining abt this?

[regal isle]

And now they're trying to reduce last judge's suicide bomb to 2 damage

[trim estuary]

sister splinter kinda boring without the threat of her minions absolutely murdering you

[noble fractal]

blades dealing double was kinda annoying but the fight is pretty easy now so yea

[hearty wren]

Moorwing isn't even that hard infact is so easy on what your early second play through

[regal isle]

Very, they js die in a single silksoear

[hearty wren]

That's why she gets skipped

[regal isle]

Look at how they are massacaring our goats

[knotty vapor]

NAH
IF ANYTHING, THE IMPLICATION THAT AN EXPLOSION HAS THE SAME STRENGTH AS A HIGHER BEING IS FUNNY 😭

[regal isle]

No hitting moorwing is rly fun

[hearty wren]

Old patches are a masterpiece

[regal isle]

Well lets be honest with us for a second, you got like 15 big bombs compacted into a single being and when it dies they all go off

[hearty wren]

Double damage of worms , cutters , wheels oh yeah

[regal isle]

Should be three damage

[untold dune]

dont forget absolute radiance and pharlids do the same amount of damage

[noble fractal]

i mean if you’re no hitting a boss you don’t care about double damage

[regal isle]

The fans in the citadel

[still osprey]

I think that they should bring back the 3 damage Last Judge explosion AND make Phantom's final parry deal 3 damage if you miss it, that way the final boss of every act can have an attack that deals 3 damage

[quick oak]

Hay can anyone tell me why I got slik and soul quest even though i didn't have all mask and spool like spool is only 1 left and mask is 2 left and idk more but i guess I am missing and not 93% in act 2

[knotty vapor]

I forgor whats the biggest difficulty spike

[regal isle]

Pure vessel and glooms

[hexed sonnet]

phantom is easy i got her till her final phase first try. i thought she was supposed to be difficult

[still osprey]

they 🗣️ 🔥

[icy crow]

Silk & Soul isn't tied to Mask Shards and Spool Fragments

[quick oak]

She's just hornet b3

[regal isle]

Silk and soul only procs by completing quests. It doesnt care abt masks or spools

[untold dune]

glooms make sense tho theyre in the abyss

[quick oak]

Oh ;_;

[hearty wren]

Himero haaaa teukero

[regal isle]

Ok then, failed champion and skull chargers

[quick oak]

So am like now I only need all mask and spool right?

[lime wyvern]

team cherry if they were canadian instead of australian:

[untold dune]

beaversong

[noble fractal]

Yea on this the blasted steps nerf is the only change I really dislike tbh
Like the blasted steps is supposed to feel like this intimidating desolate ass area and the double damage helped it feel intimidating

[hearty wren]

The skarr gauntlet in act 3 is crazy

[regal isle]

Uhh u gotta finish silk and soul then ur able to get the other stuff

[still osprey]

Reminder that phantom uses they/them pronouns they're my nonbinary monarch

[noble fractal]

way less sauce to it 💔

[hearty wren]

The ultimate one

[regal isle]

As a canadian i agree

[regal isle]

Arent they the discsrder "daughter" of silk

[balmy talon]

city of steel tomorrow

[quick oak]

I am not max on everything rn and on last night someone told me to do before doing slik and soul

[icy crow]

Journal calls Phantom using "they/them" but Needolin dialogue in a room calls Phantom a "sister", so either works

[regal isle]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-if-sorrow-silksong-tomorrow-hollow-knight-gif-12013056154277092895

[still osprey]

That could be Phantom talking to Lace too

[quick oak]

Btw I know goral is required and the thing in atla what are the other requirements?

[icy crow]

Besides, the Journal calls most gendered bosses with they/them pronouns

[ocean quarry]

fraud tomorrow

[still osprey]

Never referred to as a daughter

[noble fractal]

You can still do everything after silk and soul some of it will just be harder

[balmy talon]

yes that was phantom talking to lace

[regal isle]

Fraud of fraudulence

[untold dune]

i wish more people realized this

[quick oak]

So am doing before it

[icy crow]

She is though?

[noble fractal]

well you can’t fight shakra so go do that actually

[still osprey]

When

[knotty vapor]

atp GTA VI will release much faster than SOS

[icy crow]

In the lore she's a discarded daughter

[quick oak]

Like how many mask u can get in act

[icy crow]

Grandmother Silk has made her

[regal isle]

Doomsday will release before sos

[still osprey]

When are they referred to as a daughter do tell me

[balmy talon]

phantom is gms disgraced nonbinary daughter to me

[ocean quarry]

fun fact: gta IV is 18 years old

[noble fractal]

You can get 9 masks in act 2

[quick oak]

And spool because I need only one fragment to complete another 9

[still osprey]

Cuz the one instance of the word is ambiguous who is talking to who

[knotty vapor]

we will get help before SOS gets released

[icy crow]

I don't remember I haven't played in a while

[hexed sonnet]

since we technically got birds in silksong im wondering how it would be to have something looking like a cat for a boss fight in a hollow knight 3

[noble fractal]

and 9 spools which is all of them yeah

[quick oak]

I have 8 i need 2 shard more

[slender juniper]

Yall dont understand how peak reaper crest could be if it was buffed but TC took away its potential

[quick oak]

I need to find 3 things

[still osprey]

So you're making stuff up

[balmy talon]

thats as old as me wtf

[icy crow]

No??

[quick oak]

And then act 3 time

[icy crow]

You can just look at Phantom's wiki page and look for the lore to be honest

[regal isle]

Sos is is a psyop led by the government to fistract us of real issues, like the fact theres no sos

[still osprey]

"Why us sister" can be either phantom or lace and it's way more likely it's phantom

[knotty vapor]

what if you're in an island

[ocean quarry]

half-life is 45 years old

[regal isle]

island boys

[quick oak]

And what are required besides goral souls idk i just have that early and the thing me find in atla

[ocean quarry]

wait no that's mario

[still osprey]

Why is it so hard for this community to accept characters can be nonbinary this keeps happening I've noticed

[knotty vapor]

mods, not THAT island.

[noble fractal]

If you really want you can just check the wiki for ones you haven’t gotten yet

[quick oak]

Weaver atlas*

[slender juniper]

Last judge and garmond also use they/them in their journals yet their not non binary

[quick oak]

Ok

[untold dune]

wanna feel old? silksong is only <1 years old!

[knotty vapor]

play SOS on an island

[leaden delta]

my issue is just it’s too scripted and it doesn’t really do that much

[quick oak]

Bye

[noble fractal]

it feels mildly lame but you gotta know where to find shit

[regal isle]

Garmond makes sense tho they travel with zaza

[icy crow]

It's not like I'm against it, I'm saying both pronouns can do

[regal isle]

true

[slender juniper]

Phantom is most likely female but if you want to interpret phantom as non binary its whatever

[regal isle]

So using they would sound better

[icy crow]

The Journal calls gendered bugs using "they/them" pronouns aswell so it's mostly Team Cherry's fault for making it up like that

[balmy talon]

it was like phantom telling lace what would happen to her basically

[leaden delta]

I honestly don’t know. It sucks

[still osprey]

I'm starting to remember why I stopped being active in this server

[ocean quarry]

?

[balmy talon]

i think just nb people are treated like that everywhere

[regal isle]

I always thought phantom was a girl cuz

1. Child of GMS, has no male or other gendered children aside from females
2. Female voicelines
3. Relations with lace

[knotty vapor]

chat if you remove Garmond's shoes, you'll have a harder fight where his attacks have red particles and Zaza is nowhere to be seen

[regal isle]

Hideo kojima is that you

[slender juniper]

Theres also "why us sister" silk memory

[still osprey]

I've noticed it a lot in this community specifically like people don't even use it/its for the vessels it's always he

[regal isle]

True

[leaden delta]

It’s just it’s not too hard to just idk. Use they/them when you don’t have info

[balmy talon]

i like the thought of phantom being trans because it makes sense for GMS to discard them. she wanted a daughter and phantom failed that

[untold dune]

lost garmond entry is also they/them oops garmond is non-binary i guess

[regal isle]

Its mostly ppl forget

[knotty vapor]

lmfao making a reference to an obscure game, lemme see if people get it

[still osprey]

"female voice lines" and it's the most androgynous voice ever I am genuinely jealous I don't sound like Phantom

[midnight jasper]

Do Silksong enemies get infected by the Void

[ocean quarry]

this makes it sound like phantom was born trans

[knotty vapor]

"Phantom is a girl" this, "No, he's a boy" that,

Sisters.

[slender juniper]

Phantom singing sounds very high pitched female

[noble fractal]

Female voice lines don’t really matter that much cuz iirc heard last judge is nb with female voice lines

[icy crow]

Last Judge is actually a girl

[noble fractal]

And more notably, weavers are female while sounding like that lol

[slender juniper]

Everyone is a they/then

[regal isle]

I mentioned that cuz of the previous point of gms only having daughters and specifically daughters

[ocean quarry]

last judge ia actually 3 judges in a trenchcoat

[light swan]

lace is phantoms sister 😈

[knotty vapor]

...do I have news for you

[still osprey]

Is this a mods ping this is like blatantly transphobic

[regal isle]

Fork found in kitchen

[noble fractal]

ok this is something they did in the translations so myb

[hexed sonnet]

aaaannnnd i defeated phantom

short but very fun. pause

[icy crow]

Gotta love how a community goes haywire over characters every month instead of just coming up with a mutual agreement already

[hallow rover]

rahhhhhh!!!!

[noble fractal]

not to say that isn’t valid or anything obvs

[balmy talon]

well yeah but GMS didnt expect that to happen. its like if you do gender selection in IVF to get a daughter and that daughter ends up being trans. the parent would be pissed right? i like the IVF parallel

[icy crow]

Team Cherry made the Journal note gendered bugs using "they/them" so it's basically their fault for obscuring details

[hexed sonnet]

if phantom was supposed to be difficult and i got her in 6-7 tries what about gms who everyone says is actually easy

[hallow rover]

genuinely why do we care about bug gender

[regal isle]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

Can we talk about how hallownest's policies sre better than pharlooms

[noble fractal]

Do people actually find phantom hard? 😭 no disrespect but that fight is not allat

[hallow rover]

bro pale king is way better than gms

[ocean quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/cracking-an-egg-brian-lagerstrom-preparing-food-preparing-ingredients-gif-4641067286295214810

[regal isle]

Exactly

[hallow rover]

pale king tried and ppl still blaming him 🙏

[noble fractal]

it’s fun enough but it’s not that hard

[hexed sonnet]

now we're asking the real questions

[slender juniper]

Last judge, garmond,and bell beast are all non binary ig

[knotty vapor]

could Pale King, Blindfolded, Dream Form, No Limbs and No Sex Drive defeat Full Power Groal

[regal isle]

Great and benevolent leader but flawed plan to seal the radiance

[icy crow]

Considerably easier than Last Judge + gives a better reward than just Citadel access lol

[slender juniper]

Theres like 6 entries that use they/them even when the characters arent non bin

[noble fractal]

Bell beast has children brah wdym nb 😭

[hallow rover]

how would pale kings sex drive defeat groal

[regal isle]

Bell beast is a girl tho? She gives birth in act 3

[hallow rover]

yea I mean not much he could do tbh

[knotty vapor]

no sex drive = no vessels to assist him during the fight

[slender juniper]

Yes but her entry says "their" so they nust be nb

[hallow rover]

Nah she stole them from an orphanage or sm 💀

Alright I’ll leave I’m sorry

[icy crow]

<@&283547423706447872> so are we not gonna do something about this

[noble fractal]

Tbf im appreciative of last judge difficulty they feel like a real gatekeeper
just wish phantom had more sauce

[regal isle]

What if its their as in plural for the babies she produces in act 3

[ocean quarry]

is that town of salem

[icy crow]

Phantom for sure could be faster in battle

[regal isle]

true

[slender juniper]

Most nothing burger tag ever ,they didnt even do anthing

[hallow rover]

PROOF???

[icy crow]

No, that's the Shivering Spire

[still osprey]

Apparently it's too hard to use they/them on phantom but something like calling Hornet a he is wrong ok I see how it is...

[knotty vapor]

THEY'RE LITERALLY ROOMMATES

[regal isle]

Wouldnt make sense tho, shes frail with age and hasnt fought in like who knows hwo long

[hallow rover]

damn that’s a big room

[icy crow]

I'm not stupid, what you said is just outright offset

[knotty vapor]

AREA ROOMMATES
LUGOLI PROBABLY FEEDS HIM

[hallow rover]

alright that was NOT the wind

[regal isle]

dawg what was that

[slender juniper]

TC just liked to use they them for bosses

[knotty vapor]

if yk what I mean

[trim estuary]

[icy crow]

Make attacks more unpredictable then, I suppose

[slender juniper]

They meant in game example

[hallow rover]

I don’t, elaborate please

[regal isle]

Shes a mid game boss shes not meant to be hard bro😭

[knotty vapor]

no, I'll get muted 😭

[noble fractal]

sorta yeah but it’s one of those things where it still just ends up feeling kinda whatever

[icy crow]

Mid-game?

[hallow rover]

Worth it

[knotty vapor]

😭

[regal isle]

MID??? Ahha this game SUCKS!!!

[trim estuary]

Mods Have Logs

[noble fractal]

I don’t want them to be last judge difficulty but like they could use just a tad more sauce

[icy crow]

No like I'm asking since Exhaust Organ can be accessed from act one

[trim estuary]

Phantom & Lace duo boss when btw

[knotty vapor]

mods

[icy crow]

Yap yap

[regal isle]

Silken sisters mod is good

[light swan]

mannn im actually so bummed out because of the final boss

[hallow rover]

I guess you could say they’re sisters of battle (I stole this joke from yt)

[icy crow]

I'm not offended you're just being an asshole for no reason lol

[knotty vapor]

Mogger At The Edge 🤑

[ocean quarry]

which game

[sweet shore]

skynx killed my goat

[light swan]

mio

[ocean quarry]

mio's OUT?!

[coarse leaf]

IM SAVED! (i had to search up bench locations.... )

[knotty vapor]

I yearn for Silksong Re-painted

[light swan]

a month and 6 days now yes

[noble fractal]

last judge is quite a hard boss for act 1 without the magma bell or whatever so idt that argument really applies

[fiery burrow]

Would the Act 3 callbacks to the first game have a greater impact if they included gravity warping and non euclidian spaces

[knotty vapor]

or Skong Corruption

[regal isle]

hue shifter mod

[icy crow]

Has been for a while now

[light swan]

my only critiism of the final boss was that phase 2 theme was less intense than phase 1 even though it should be the climax

[hallow rover]

Last judge is very doable without magma bell tbh

[light swan]

but then i realized that ingame theres a phase 2 theme that isnt in the officially released mio ost

[hallow rover]

I don’t think I ever even thought “oh that would be useful”

[regal isle]

Last judge i mean if ur willing to give up a craft metal go for it

[trim estuary]

just like elden ring fr

[noble fractal]

Though with sinners road being what it is maybe they thought that they’d give the players a little break without it

[light swan]

so im SO HAPPY that phase 2 has SUCH a good theme

[knotty vapor]

???
first playthrough, did her without magma bell

[light swan]

but im also SO SAD because its not officially released

[knotty vapor]

and Father of the Flame too

[icy crow]

Father of the Flame had potential

[regal isle]

Also its fair how last judge is act 1s final boss, they are literally the boss guard of the citadel so ur gonna expect a challengeo

[hallow rover]

Father of the flame I had to suck it up and use magma bell + reserve bind lmao

[knotty vapor]

Daddy of the Flame

[light swan]

and yea its a ccrazy good game, better than silksong and instantly my top 2 game of all time

[hallow rover]

Silksong experimented a lot with its bosses

[regal isle]

Father of the MIDDDD

[slender juniper]

Flame daddy

[sweet shore]

I'm avenging styx

[light swan]

very possibly best game of 2026

[icy crow]

What's top 1

[noble fractal]

only like 4 of the craftmetal crafts are that good and making like 4 bosses significantly easier is worth it enough

[regal isle]

burning papa

[light swan]

xenoblade chronicles 3

https://tenor.com/view/xenoblade-xenoblade-chronicles-xenoblade3-xenoblade-chronicles3-xc3-gif-24831359

[knotty vapor]

Father Of The Flame Third Phase:
After the ball explodes, the bug inside gets released and fights you 🤑

[icy crow]

You literally said something about gendering people based on their looks and that very well could go wrong

[icy crow]

Peak which I haven't played yet

[noble fractal]

Well im just comparing to phantom which also gatekeeps the citadel, im not saying they have to be the same difficulty but phantom is borderline lace 1 difficulty lol

[ocean quarry]

is that the one with the twin booba swords

[knotty vapor]

VoltVyrm is a higher being thats been lobotomised and I can't prove it yet

[noble fractal]

just want a tiny bit more sauce for the fight

[light swan]

😔

[icy crow]

See? You're purposefully being an ass

[light swan]

how about i Fuckign Kill you

[regal isle]

4th phase: it becomes alive again but everything does 4 masks of damage and shoots at mach speed

[icy crow]

Bro got banned. Lolz

[knotty vapor]

4.5th phase: Boundless Infinity

[icy crow]

Why are we fighting ashes

[regal isle]

5th phase: absrad 5.0

[regal isle]

Because yeah

[light swan]

i dont like how people only know xenoblade from the twin booba swords

even though theyre super well written characters

and their character design is very intentional and great storytelling from the design alone

[coarse leaf]

is groal here in act 2

[icy crow]

@light swan you should play both Ori games eventually. Ori 2 has an array of weapons you can use to fight bosses, I'd like to see you speedrun the hell out of them eventually

[light swan]

eventually yea (i dont like speedrunning though)

[worn reef]

you know what would be cool if collector was in silksong

[icy crow]

He is mandatory so you can access act three so yes

[coarse leaf]

fuck this game then

[knotty vapor]

6th phase: Fallen Guardian Revek + Voided Plasmified Higher Markoth

[coarse leaf]

isnt there a wap to skip

[regal isle]

That would be cool

[icy crow]

I don't mean as in speedrunning the game but just defeating bosses in record time

[icy crow]

It has been patched already iirc

[regal isle]

7th phase: plasmified zango 2.0

[light swan]

i also dont care about optimizing bosses like that, you can ask someone like ash lol

[coarse leaf]

FUCK

[icy crow]

At the very least have fun since that's what matters lol

I'm missing one time trial in Pseudoregalia and then it's over

[coarse leaf]

i suck at this arena

[light swan]

yea ill definitely have fun hopefully maybe lol

[coarse leaf]

what is the arean called

[ocean quarry]

i mean, sexualized and well-written aren't mutually exclusive

[noble fractal]

doesn’t help that a big chunk of xbc2 fans are giant weirdos

[coarse leaf]

what is the groal gauntlket called

[light swan]

thats true but like, i feel like its a small loud chunk

[regal isle]

WHAT

ok bro😭🙏

[icy crow]

Doesn't have a specific name but the sub-area of that small town is Bilehaven

[noble fractal]

I’ve heard b2 or whatever her name is, is an example of this

[regal isle]

Bilehaven

[ocean quarry]

b2?

[regal isle]

Nier automata?

[ocean quarry]

oh 2b

[noble fractal]

Yeah

lol whoops

[regal isle]

B2 spirit

[icy crow]

Can someone ping me when MIO goes on sale

[light swan]

xenoblade 2 spoilers

[regal isle]

Brb yall ima go do my silksongdle

[knotty vapor]

that would make sense if you could see him in zones where he collects.
You'll see jars during Act 1, but think nothing of it
in Act 2, maybe you'll fight him on some of the areas, but he will always retreat once you do enough damage to him
in Act 3, he'll have an Arena, specifically in Memorium, aaand cut

how would the lore fit tho

[worn reef]

omg that would be awesome and he could collaborate with trobbio

[noble fractal]

probably but it’s not left a good impression on me personally (though a lot of this experience I’ve gotten from being in a smash server so the venn diagram of smash fans and xbc2 gotta be heinous in the middle)

[light swan]

smash is the worst representation of xenoblade

shulk says "hah! now its shulk time!" like what the fuck

[trim estuary]

does he yell backslash in xenoblade

[knotty vapor]

...double meaning

[versed pollen]

That is fire

[ocean quarry]

good storytelling ngl

[light swan]

in xenoblade hes screamign about murder and vengeance and in smash hes going "this is the monados power! now its shulk time!"

[light swan]

im not perfectly happy with their character designs but its still great foreshadowing in a way but definitely shows attention to detail, intentionality, and storytelling

[ocean quarry]

yeah smash covers up the booba swords

[light swan]

some things never change:)

[trim estuary]

but does he yell backslash

[coarse leaf]

I FUCKING HYATE THE ARENA FOR GROAL

[noble fractal]

Generally smash bros does not do characterization well

[light swan]

official outfit in xenoblade 2 btw

[coarse leaf]

I CANT EVEN LAND A SINGLE HIT ON THE ENEMIES

[noble fractal]

like what is lucinas problem in smash lmfao

[knotty vapor]

"WHY IS THERE A FIRE ANT LIVING IN A COLONY"

[coarse leaf]

./

[light swan]

"now its shulk time!" vs "you will know... the pain and suffering you have cAUSEd to the EMPEROR AND FIORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

[ocean quarry]

i see

[noble fractal]

if it matters it’s a better outfit anyways

[knotty vapor]

...ironically the strat to beat him is to just

stay on the water.

[coarse leaf]

WHY

[knotty vapor]

I'm not kidding

[knotty vapor]

nullifies like 80% of his attacks

[coarse leaf]

well..... how do i hit the enemies

[noble fractal]

Ok to be fair to him he don’t got beef against donkey Kong or anyone in smash like dat

[ocean quarry]

hey i've never played xenoblade so idk

[versed pollen]

The strat to beat him is spam sting shards and watch everything die

[knotty vapor]

you DON'T

[trim estuary]

mario and kirby vs. link and yoshi was the most fire part though ycl

[coarse leaf]

wsdytm

[ocean quarry]

why do i imagine ripley is the one facing shulk in this scenario

[noble fractal]

can’t lie I didn’t play subspace but I watched it later and it looks mad cool

[trim oar]

can anyone tell me how bad shellwood is??

[versed pollen]

Wait til they pop up and hit em a few times

[light swan]

mythra is one of the most well written characters of all time

[noble fractal]

it’s alright probably

[versed pollen]

Horrible. Uninstall the game immediately

[trim oar]

y?

[versed pollen]

Just do it

[trim oar]

wth?

are the gauntlets hard?

[versed pollen]

You HAVE to uninstall the game

[icy crow]

Fine as is except in some rooms

[light swan]

spoilers but ||most of xenoblade 2 is mythra trying to kill herself but the one thing she cant do is die|| and once you find out why it fucking hits different

[icy crow]

The only gauntlet there isn't hard but the enemies can deal double damage

[trim oar]

yeah, sure....

[versed pollen]

Thank you

[ocean quarry]

shellwood is tame

deep docks is earlier than it and is much harder

[knotty vapor]

Prime Karmelita and Prime Khann vs PK No Limbs, No Sex Drive, No Cost Too Great, No Mind To Break, No Void, No Wyrm Form, And suffering from depression

[light swan]

and then pyras role in everything as well as the role of the villains and stuff, its so well written

but its all glossed over by "twin booba sword"

[noble fractal]

not to mention hunters march if you go early

[regal isle]

2 hydrogen bombs vs ant

[light swan]

at least xenoblade 3 doesnt have the problem because they dont even know what booba is

[regal isle]

Or worm

[ocean quarry]

i can imagine the outcry from the fanbase

[light swan]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExamI4Y3MxNGx2dmtpajEwMWtkaHF1emdmcGx4dWE2ZW9mMTV5d3I0aCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/28CVnr1u0BIFJ0IXeI/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[light swan]

the fanbase is happy

the second scene in xenoblade 3 (first was obviously war and death) was a mixed sex bathhouse

which set up everyones vulnerability and trauma, and the nature of this cursed world

oop

[coarse leaf]

SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THE FUCKING ARENA

[noble fractal]

Is g*on a swear word 😭 😭

[coarse leaf]

im not saving cog flys for the end.

[light swan]

probably

[noble fractal]

brah

[light swan]

but the majority of the fanbase is not that

[untold dune]

yeah but fuck isnt for some reason lol

[burnt pagoda]

freak!

[knotty vapor]

if VoltVyrm was a Sea of Sorrow fight, he'd be required to start the DLC
hear me out.

[ocean quarry]

i would leave this server if fuck was banned lmao

[untold dune]

true

[light swan]

youve probably just been exposed to the part of the xenoblade community that doesnt actually play xenoblade

[coarse leaf]

type shit

[clever crystal]

chat should i get mor masks or risk it and stay on 5 masks (im on steel soul act2 rn)

[noble fractal]

Anyways I think two design aspects can coexist where A their design is made with a specific narrative purpose in mind and B their design is made so people can “enjoy it”

[ocean quarry]

the hades server bans shit like "shit" and "hell"

[noble fractal]

(g*on)

[versed pollen]

No, it's a sexual innuendo

[untold dune]

get more masks bro

[ocean quarry]

and it's insane

[regal isle]

Who??

[versed pollen]

Well not an innuendo I guess

[light swan]

maybe its still B and im not happy about it either but i cant deny the amazingness of A

[noble fractal]

Banning the word hell when the game literally takes place in hell 😭

[versed pollen]

It's just reference more like

[clever crystal]

alr

[ocean quarry]

I KNOW, RIGHT?!

[noble fractal]

yeah I get what you mean

[regal isle]

And the name of the game is quite literally the greek god of hell

[light swan]

oh my hades

[coarse leaf]

i cant do bile haven.

[untold dune]

i always thought hades was like an 18+ thing is ts actually all ages?

[ocean quarry]

i've seen someone get banned for saying "w*lly wonka" there

[regal isle]

wally wanka

[versed pollen]

That's funny as hell

[knotty vapor]

woolly mammoth

[icy crow]

Hades does not have explicit nudity or gore

[noble fractal]

Probably 16+ but yeah

[untold dune]

fair

its on my backlog so

[icy crow]

Despite Aphrodite's sprite being quite almost nude

[light swan]

almost? it conpletely is lol

[ocean quarry]

tf you mean "almost"

[light swan]

just with perfectly placed long hair

[icy crow]

I don't exactly remember her sprite

[regal isle]

Actually wheres the banned word list

[noble fractal]

I think they meant cuz it’s not exposing nipples or whatever

[regal isle]

I wanna see what and what isnt banned

[knotty vapor]

VoltVyrm would make a good higher being,,,

[noble fractal]

Slight technicality

[light swan]

aphrodite added to ssbu

[untold dune]

just looked at the sprite and uh, shes wearing bracelets i guess?

[regal isle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452478595506241567/1465089867301257216/togif.gif

[icy crow]

Aphrodite's buffs are good though 👀

[regal isle]

Go on, tell us

[icy crow]

At least for me they were when I played for a while

[noble fractal]

pyra mythra but good 🔥

[light swan]

were they? i never used them

[ocean quarry]

highest attack increase

[clever crystal]

cuh dice is goated fr it saved me from dying against last judge

[light swan]

artemis was my goat of all time she’s my queen

[icy crow]

I have yet to hop back in Hades and get to 100% it

[ocean quarry]

they give the most amount of raw stats

[light swan]

ah

[icy crow]

How long does 100%'ing Hades even take

[ocean quarry]

if you mean the main story, 50 hours

if you mean the post-game

[noble fractal]

probably a lot bro I have 80 hours or so and I still have some side quests to do

[icy crow]

I mean everything

[light swan]

artemis and dionysus are the best and no one can change my mind

[ocean quarry]

130

[icy crow]

Peak

[ocean quarry]

if you truly mean everything

[light swan]

no bias involved at all

why couslnt pollip pouch be like dionysus

[ocean quarry]

thousands of hours

[icy crow]

Everything I can do yeah

[opaque sigil]

so true

[toxic vigil]

Hello!

[clever crystal]

sup

[ocean quarry]

i'm at 353 hours and i'm not even 10% of the way there

[icy crow]

Totally gonna take time maximizing the friendship rate with characters

[opaque sigil]

festive fog in hades 1 is like actually really broken though

[regal isle]

Have yall seen hornetular getting brutally frame mogged by GMS Lace daughter

[clever crystal]

wot

[icy crow]

Cannot you just speed things up if you have a lotta resources though?

[regal isle]

Hornetular got brutally frame mogged by gms Lace fraud daughter

[quick oak]

I almost forgo5 beast fly fight 2

[coarse leaf]

i cant do this anymore

[icy crow]

The fact that you need that gift item so you can increase friendship rate with other characters lol

[coarse leaf]

how do i nerf bilehaven

[ionic stump]

Hot take but sands of karrak is way worse than Bilewater

[icy crow]

You don't

[regal isle]

Not bad of a take

[light swan]

leave and come back with more upgrades

[quick oak]

And i thought I need the silksoar for blasted steps mask

[coarse leaf]

i have the upgrades i can

[quick oak]

Am all 9 mask now 😄

[ionic stump]

After experience Bilewater is not that bad

[coarse leaf]

should i just come back in act 3

[light swan]

then you should be able to oneshot stilkin as they jump up

[quick oak]

Need one spool fregemnt

[coarse leaf]

oh wait. i cant

[coarse leaf]

who is stilkin

[clever crystal]

nice

[icy crow]

I literally told you Groal is mandatory for act three lmao

[light swan]

the arena enemies

[icy crow]

How many masks do you have?

[ocean quarry]

look, there are these vanity rewards called "ranks"

they do absolutely nothing, there's a shit ton of them, and they act as a resource sink after you've completed everything else

and you can't really speed that up

[ionic stump]

The bug is patched

[quick oak]

I need one more soul ;_;

[coarse leaf]

6 mask

[light swan]

you can get 9

[icy crow]

Lmao

[coarse leaf]

and how much upgrades can i get

[quick oak]

Can u tell me I have goral and the lady in bone bottom and the tool that found in atla

[ocean quarry]

6 mask bilehaven

[noble fractal]

I feel like you still have a lot of stuff to do

[clever crystal]

im still on 5 masks in my current save ;-;

[obtuse nymph]

Exposed black tile in blasted steps.

[ocean quarry]

masochism

[ionic stump]

You can take 2 pale oils on act 2

[icy crow]

Never heard of those, but does the game show any percent rate somewhere

[quick oak]

U r new 😭

[clever crystal]

steel soul

[quick oak]

Oh

[coarse leaf]

alright where are they

[clever crystal]

om act2 rn

[quick oak]

So u had done silk and soul quest

[clever crystal]

ye and beat act3

[ionic stump]

You already got one yesterday the other is behind a quest on choral chambers

[noble fractal]

tbh in my head I don’t really count those for 100% cuz those feel intentionally grindy

[coarse leaf]

and is the quest easy

[quick oak]

I need one more soul besides goral, atla ,and lady in bone bottom

Idk her name ;_;

[ionic stump]

Do you remember the flower quest in normal hk?

[coarse leaf]

cause im NOIT sitting down because i dont wanna walk all the way back and constantly get hit

[coarse leaf]

.

[clever crystal]

nice

[quick oak]

That's hell

[noble fractal]

lmao

[quick oak]

Tell me which one. I need

pls TvT

[signal aurora]

peak silk song

[noble fractal]

The last one is the guy directly under bellhome

[ionic stump]

You just need to give some guy in choral chambers food

[quick oak]

Ohh

[noble fractal]

bellhart*

[ionic stump]

However one of them works similar to the flower quest

[quick oak]

Thnx ;_; ama go get in act three now

[coarse leaf]

is it harder then delicate flower in normal hk

[ionic stump]

It depends on who you ask i say yes it is

[clever crystal]

go yo the guy under bell heart that calls hornet a slave or smth

[noble fractal]

you have to go fast for flower so arguably yes

[ocean quarry]

ye

[coarse leaf]

alright where do i go

[icy crow]

@ocean quarry someone actually made a 100% checklist for Hades lol

https://jcguigue.github.io/HadesCompletion/

[ionic stump]

First you need to start the quest someone show him where it is

Bc i can't rn

[clever crystal]

woah

[knotty vapor]

Nyleth Sans Phase

[clever crystal]

nyleth is evul

[knotty vapor]

Nyleth is...
👅

[clever crystal]

HELL NAW

[noble fractal]

You do have the great taste of pharloom quest available right

[coarse leaf]

wait. for vintage nector you need to pay 480 FUCKING ROSARIES?

[knotty vapor]

idc if I get pierced by spikes
I will make sure a new Shellwood gets grown

[noble fractal]

they make you work hard as hell for the third nail upgrade it’s crazy stuff

[clever crystal]

._.

[south cape]

Hello everyone

[clever crystal]

sup

[noble fractal]

🔥✍️

[ionic stump]

@coarse leaf you need to go to the red spot

[noble fractal]

yeah

[ionic stump]

To start it

[coarse leaf]

wait i searched up you need great taste of pharloom

[noble fractal]

yea start by going there

[ionic stump]

Yes it's THAT quest

[clever crystal]

cuh should i get the red quil or complete the run without a quil?

[coarse leaf]

soooo i need to grind rosariewsw

[ionic stump]

Go get purple one

[coarse leaf]

480 rosaries ❤️.

[south cape]

purple

[clever crystal]

going to act3 is too much work ;-;

[ionic stump]

No you need to bring him different ingredients from the world by then you will already have all the rosaries

[coarse leaf]

this BETTER let me one shot all enemies in the arena (obvi not groal ))

[noble fractal]

You only need the 480 (+ around 500 more to upgrade the nail)
I should preface this is a very long side quest so like unless it’s the very last thing for you to do

[noble fractal]

yeah

[light swan]

some tools like sawtooth circlet helps too

[coarse leaf]

but you need vintage nector

[ionic stump]

That's not much

[noble fractal]

Nectar is the only thing you need to pay for

[coarse leaf]

480 rosaries

[ionic stump]

Just go farm on choral chambers

[coarse leaf]

and 500 for a upgrade is outragious

[ionic stump]

It's fun

[light swan]

this was me with only 2 damage upgrades (aka what you should have) and im already killing them really fast

[coarse leaf]

good idea

[ionic stump]

Pailmaster wanted 2000+

[light swan]

with more damage upgrades you should be able to oneshot them as soon as they come up

[coarse leaf]

who is pailmaster

[noble fractal]

and yeah 480 rosaries is like 5 minutes in the chambers (I don’t like that you have to grind at all in this game ngl but still)

[ionic stump]

I mean nailsmith

[coarse leaf]

yes ik but it was MUCH easier to get currency in there

[noble fractal]

Yeah but that’s in a game where lemm has like 30k or some crazy number to give you in relics

[ionic stump]

It's also easy on sk

[clever crystal]

chat what are the chances that i beat highhalls with 5 masks only

[ionic stump]

Low but not zero

[noble fractal]

and grinding colo 2 is more fun than grinding in chambers (idk if it’s faster or not tho)

[coarse leaf]

so isntead of wasting my strings i should grind?

[noble fractal]

You might as well use the strings

[ionic stump]

You can also go for other ones

[noble fractal]

Then grind when ur all out

[noble fractal]

That too

[ionic stump]

Like the chef lugoli one

The weird maggot

[noble fractal]

(requires double jump if you don’t already have it)

[toxic vigil]

time to do this with NOTHING

[ionic stump]

Just do courier meat at the end it's the one who looks like delicate flower

[noble fractal]

good luck lol

[clever crystal]

i think 50% chance that i win

[ionic stump]

No it's the one with the same abilities i mean

[knotty vapor]

do ya'll think the Crawfather was only a Sottocapo/Underboss

[noble fractal]

yea couriers rasher is the equivalent of delicate flower but fast you gotta plan that shit

[south cape]

I actually wondered in hunters march first time with nothing(well 1 silk skill but I didnt use it anyway)

[ionic stump]

I don't even know how to summon him

[noble fractal]

early hunters march is hard but very fun

[knotty vapor]

Craw-icide

[noble fractal]

first playthru it’s messed up tho lol I was there for a while

[ionic stump]

Savage beastfly early is peak

[noble fractal]

meh

[south cape]

[ionic stump]

I totally skipped that area and returned ok act 2

[noble fractal]

i think people overrate how hard the first fight is but it’s still not very fun

[ionic stump]

Still got dominated by savage peakfly

[noble fractal]

Better than beastfly 2 tho 💀 bro idk what id do without circlet

[static hearth]

[knotty vapor]

the craws have so much personality in just one boss

[clever crystal]

savage beast fly is not hard just annoyingg cuz of the enemies it summons

[south cape]

usually that happens if people dont use silk skills.
They get overwhelmed with enemies ig

[static hearth]

the craws suck but the boss is so good

[ionic stump]

cross stitch carried again

[south cape]

I wish there was a modded boss of him

[ionic stump]

Best ability

[noble fractal]

needle storm my beloved ❤️ so I guess if you do it early no needle storm makes it somewhat harder

[trim estuary]

we LOVE CRAWFATHER

[ionic stump]

Even better than thread storm for me

[knotty vapor]

...has anyone ever tested if you bounce off Sherma's Hat when you pogo

[ionic stump]

Bc parry is cool

[south cape]

I think no

[noble fractal]

I don’t think he has a hitbox to pogo

[light swan]

shairpins you cutely

[clever crystal]

nah

[ionic stump]

I also like pale nails but by the time you get them it's too late

Unless you use shaman

[noble fractal]

rune rage is almost good but damn that shit is so slow

[clever crystal]

cuh sherma is a higher being in disguise trust frfr

[south cape]

They are really good in pantheon of pharloom

[ionic stump]

Sherma is god

[south cape]

Literally shred through bosses

[clever crystal]

sherma is the choosen one

[ionic stump]

Yeah I haven't actually downloaded that mod yet

I only have a health bar one

[sharp slate]

pale nails is so good for downtime in fights but like sneaky said they suffer from lategame syndrome

[toxic vigil]

i mean
pale nails is x3 nail dmg total

[south cape]

Try
Its also good if you want to use steel soul file for some reason

[toxic vigil]

so its better than silkspear

[placid lichen]

I JUST defeated groal the great AND HOLY SHIT FUCK THAT GUY

[south cape]

It doesnt save any progress
Not dying, not beating any boss, nothing

[sharp slate]

isnt pale nails the same damage as silkspear

[placid lichen]

IT TOOK SO LONG

[ionic stump]

I have also never used sharp dart

[noble fractal]

I thought silkspear was 3x

is it only 2.5x or something

[clever crystal]

he annoying af

[ionic stump]

Bc i forgot it existed and unlocked it on act 3

[placid lichen]

the run backs were soo annoying

[sharp slate]

its 3x

[ionic stump]

But 90% of the time I use cross stitch

[clever crystal]

fr

[placid lichen]

I hope I'm done with bilewater because I am NOT going in there ever again

[sturdy trellis]

silkspear does a bit more with volt filament because it gets 2 ticks of 5 damage

[ionic stump]

Well have you fleed all the fleas ?

[south cape]

Helped me against modded bosses

Apparently Any GMS(dream fight) also counts as death.
And if it wasnt for PoP I would lose my steel soul file

[sturdy trellis]

but at base nails and spear are both 3x yeah

[sharp slate]

intresting, didnt know that odd

[clever crystal]

the only reassons i went there is cuz of the item after groal the geat (i forgot what the item was :p) and also i went to bile water to get longclaw

[noble fractal]

You’ll probably side quest there a few times but nothing crazy

[ionic stump]

I also never used sharp dart in my life idk if it's good or not. Reason is that i forgot about it and then I got it on act 3

[noble fractal]

there’s a good item in putrified ducts to make bilewater easier

[sturdy trellis]

there is a sharpdart glazer in here

[ionic stump]

It's like Shadow cloak with sharp shadow

[light swan]

ther are two sharpdart glazers here

[ionic stump]

Which is not one of my favourite charms

[noble fractal]

seems pretty whatever to me but if I know anything about this game literally any aspect of this game will be enjoyed by at least one person

[static hearth]

i love sharpdark

[noble fractal]

which is pretty cool

[south cape]

[knotty vapor]

pro tip: Lost Lace is the easiest fight because she has taken two L's since last time

[sturdy trellis]

it's been used in a pantheon of pharloom hitless run so it cannot be so bad

[noble fractal]

I like sharp shadow but I don’t like how slow sharpdart is 😭 the invincibility could be cool but id rather dodge

(or just use cross stitch lol)

[ionic stump]

I never say it's bad I say that I never used it bc i forgot about it

I also never got speed anclets

Bc i also forgot

[south cape]

lol

[sturdy trellis]

it's an on command iframe that is generally more effective offensively than cross stitch is

[ionic stump]

And yeah it's my first run

[noble fractal]

anklets are pure utility but they’re good utility

[sturdy trellis]

so yeah that's a decently big niche at least

i personally do not vibe with it though

[noble fractal]

how is it better offensively exactly

[ionic stump]

Stuck on karmelitta

[sturdy trellis]

maybe that'll change when i use it more

[coarse leaf]

ALLAT FOR FUCKING NECTOR?? ISTG

[ionic stump]

It's peak so I don't mind

[coarse leaf]

I DIED

[static hearth]

karmelitta is like one of the best bosses

[noble fractal]

oh you mean like offensively cuz it actually puts out a hitbox without needing to hit the counter

[sturdy trellis]

it's faster, deals more damage, easier to activate

[ionic stump]

True

[sturdy trellis]

yeah pretty much

[noble fractal]

no shot it’s faster

[icy crow]

It's a full ass gauntlet with a Skarrguard by the way

[coarse leaf]

i can see.

[sharp slate]

i am the sharpdart glazer but im only half here

[noble fractal]

sharpdart feels so slow 😭

[sturdy trellis]

it's not faster to activate but i think you regain control sooner? havent run the numbers but cross stitch is pretty slow

[coarse leaf]

super dumb atleast it isnt harder then high halls

[clever crystal]

one of the best fights ngl

[sharp slate]

sharpdart is so good for keeping up with bosses while doing damage

[icy crow]

You should look for Mask Shards instead of quest items first

[sturdy trellis]

in terms of what happens after it gets procced

[noble fractal]

I suppose

[sturdy trellis]

also yeah sharpdart is better for positioning to stay on offense

[ionic stump]

My favourite crest is hunter ( too lazy to change crest)

[sturdy trellis]

cross stitch kinda flings you around a bit which is annoying

[noble fractal]

I won’t talk like I have more than 30 seconds of sharpdart use it probably does have its uses I just don’t vibe

[glossy arch]

Was playing silksong with a friend and the first time we got to greymoor he verbally said "oh no we are in london"

[sturdy trellis]

yeah same

[ionic stump]

My least one is beast sorry to beast mains

[noble fractal]

lmao

[glossy arch]

Very peak first reaction lmao

[clever crystal]

i main wanderer (im using it rn in steel soul to speed run through bosses )

[sturdy trellis]

i've just seen it be rather effective

[sharp slate]

here is the sharpdart propaganda i always post https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1476466972920123516/Trobbio2.mp4?ex=69a13a85&is=699fe905&hm=594c04479c0b1ede16596746a900cde00b6b37f67a73771c17845303893d06e7&

[knotty vapor]

do ya'll think that the Vessels are the ICE of the Void

[sturdy trellis]

but havent really vibed with it

[ionic stump]

Beast is good for bosses but not my cup of tea

[coarse leaf]

fuck gauntlets stg

[ionic stump]

Not to mention the pogo

[sharp slate]

beast is a really funny crest, I like it, but at the same time its not for me

[clever crystal]

what gauntlet you doing

[sturdy trellis]

i still need to look into my beast cross stitch idea

[ionic stump]

It's the most skill wise deck in my opinion

[sharp slate]

seems like best silk skill on beast imo for hitless

[sturdy trellis]

but idk spire 2 soon what am i gonna do

[sharp slate]

though might depend on segment

[sturdy trellis]

yeah no way it'd be anything else

[raw pawn]

guys I think my internet is fast

[ionic stump]

The lower skill crest is probably wanderer or architect ( sorry)

[sturdy trellis]

and i think more importantly, beast is not worth running for hitless if you dont have stitch on

[coarse leaf]

a easy one. the vintage nector

[sharp slate]

fair lol, im almost done stitching all my lowjump stuff together...

[ionic stump]

Bc architect is literally random bs go. Pretty fun though

[orchid locust]

bits per second 😭 😭 😭 😭

[sharp slate]

just got past architects melody...

[clever crystal]

oh

[sturdy trellis]

damn he's cooking

any idea how many jumps it is so far

[autumn inlet]

Should I do Sinner’s road before the blasted steps ?

[clever crystal]

chat should i do pantheon 5 dream shield only challenge ?

[sharp slate]

hmmm, i would need to think if i had to estimate i would say 40s probably

[sturdy trellis]

holy

[sharp slate]

the early game is fucking brutal

[sturdy trellis]

that's a lot lower than what i expected honestly

thought earlygame would have a lot more random ass +1s

[sharp slate]

im not 100% sure yet so take it with a grain of salt

[tight viper]

Go for it, boss

[sturdy trellis]

i guess reaper owns

[clever crystal]

i feel like ima get cooked for hours

[sharp slate]

thankfully hunters march to get to dash was pretty free, only 2-3 jumps there

[south cape]

definetly

[sharp slate]

if i had to go deep docks route it would have been significantly more

[autumn inlet]

How do I get to the jail area without being kidnapped ?

[clever crystal]

easy get kidnapped

[balmy pumice]

Go through choral chambers

[south cape]

beat last judge

[tight viper]

It’ll be fine

[toxic vigil]

from the citadel

[coarse leaf]

ez gauntelt

[tepid mist]

Citadel back entrance and apostate key

[coarse leaf]

do phantom

[sharp slate]

you need a key from putrified to acces most of it, but you can get to it from citadel left side

[toxic vigil]

ez 4th chorus skip

[autumn inlet]

The game is being held back by wishes I think.

Dumbass system.

[south cape]

plot twist:You just entered this room for the first time

[raw pawn]

silksong and hollow knight are literally the only games I bought on steam lmao

[autumn inlet]

Gog has then

[raw pawn]

oh thank god I kept my files

[coarse leaf]

pickled muck magget is bottom right righttrtt

[plucky onyx]

928 bps 😭

[light swan]

wanderer crest with sharpdart is cool

[south cape]

ye

[sharp slate]

so based so true

[raw pawn]

I love sharpdart

[sharp slate]

I just realized, im probably never touching repear crest for a very long time...

now that low jump is done

[light swan]

what its done ???

[coarse leaf]

OMG ITS THE LOOK THING

[raw pawn]

it's like if shade cloak and descending dark had a descendant

[light swan]

analyze ts...

[coarse leaf]

YES

[sharp slate]

indeed, there are a few rooms where you might be able to save a jump, but i couldnt figure it out, and i cant be damned to spend an hour on a room

i need to edit it all together though and count

[raw pawn]

I fucking hate slubberlugs

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-analyse-ts-analyze-ts-analyze-ts-silksong-hollow-knight-gif-6236339781598342173

[clever crystal]

he will only jump on you frfr

[coarse leaf]

no wait how do i do ts

[sharp urchin]

What's the hardest modded boss that's fair (so no bs like anyrad climb)?

[coarse leaf]

this is hardddd

how much hp

[raw pawn]

Btw can pinstress end your run in steel soul?

[terse cloak]

yum

[sharp urchin]

"Fatal resolve", "Duel to the death"

[terse cloak]

you need to fight her?

[sharp urchin]

Yeah she can

[sharp urchin]

yeah she guards a %

[terse cloak]

oh

[raw pawn]

Oh I never died to her it's gonna be fine I guess

[coarse leaf]

HOW MUCH HP HOLY SHIT

[raw pawn]

I hope

[sharp urchin]

Play ultra passively and use needle strikes

[coarse leaf]

SOMEONE

[sharp urchin]

gl 😄

[coarse leaf]

HOW MUCH HP DOES CHEF LUGOLI HAVE

[sharp urchin]

not much

[coarse leaf]

500?

[sharp urchin]

idk the number

[noble fractal]

I think the only thing that doesn’t break steel soul is first sinner and the “dream” fights

[sharp urchin]

but he died in under 3 minutes

[noble fractal]

memory fights whatever

[sharp urchin]

Shakra or garmond too

[terse cloak]

all the hp look at how huge they are

[noble fractal]

oh yea

[tight viper]

600

[coarse leaf]

not much

so spam thread storm

[terse cloak]

[raw pawn]

Thanks

[noble fractal]

i wish second sentinel had more hp theyre such a fun boss but its easy to nuke them

[coarse leaf]

this boss is gonna make me cry

[tight viper]

Second Sentinel is the best boss

[sharp urchin]

Bosses we need refights of: fourth chorus, second sentinel, HHA, Last Judge

[tight viper]

Absolutely love that fight

[hallow rover]

I legit struggled on second sentinel more than lost lace

even on my second and third phaythrough

[noble fractal]

Even then they have a fairly low damage mod so sometimes I’ll do nail only just to let the fight go on

[sharp urchin]

It's a fairly hard fight ngl'

[noble fractal]

same 😭 like if they had 1000 hp instead of 800 they’d lowk be a top 5 hard fight

[hallow rover]

It’s my fav boss lol

[noble fractal]

but you can spam tacks (among other things) to delete their hp

[hallow rover]

Ppl don’t talk about it enough

[raw pawn]

I used to love using druid's eyes until I realized reserve bind is just generally better

[tight viper]

Tacks are boring

Why do tacks when you can do floorless

[hallow rover]

It’s also super parry heavy

[hallow rover]

I hope hha doesn’t stand for high halls arena

[sharp urchin]

I never used either, are they that good?

[noble fractal]

it’s up there for me the only attack i kinda don’t like is the shockwave across the arena (on the ground) cuz it’s super high and long so if im not immediately in position to jump im probably taking damage

[sharp urchin]

You bet it does!

[light swan]

eva bossfight

[coarse leaf]

ow OWOWOWOWOWOW I ANT SAYU ANYTING ELSE ELP

[light swan]

sentinel?

[hallow rover]

I used reserve bind for my first karmelita fight

[static hearth]

pain

[raw pawn]

Well druid's eyes is grubsong but worse and reserve bind is a free heal

[light swan]

sentinel is one of the most popular bossfights

[sharp urchin]

IQ 10000

[light swan]

its definitely my favorite by far

[raw pawn]

I said reserve bind 2 times 😭

[hallow rover]

every ss mention I see is just ships

[noble fractal]

high halls gauntlet is fun but double clappers is sketchy

[hallow rover]

💔

[light swan]

people are tired of glazing sentinel

[coarse leaf]

anyways HOW THE FUCK DO I DO THE CHEF LUGOLI BOSS

[light swan]

attack

[tight viper]

Sentinel is a common S/A tier boss for most people

[static hearth]

use reserve bind for architect

[noble fractal]

just focus on the attack patterns bruh

[sharp urchin]

Don't try to get damage in when he does any muckmaggot attack

[noble fractal]

patience

[hallow rover]

Really

[static hearth]

focus on her ass

[hallow rover]

I needa see that for myself

[light swan]

yes, you shouldve seen on release when like

literally everyone was glazing second sentinel

[coarse leaf]

no duh how many phases

[noble fractal]

While i live i will never end sentinel glaze.

[sharp slate]

@sturdy trellis it might be higher than 40.... im looking at the footage lmfao

[light swan]

there were like 5 #1 sentinel phans at once

[tight viper]

2

[hallow rover]

I got ss before Christmas so idk

[light swan]

this chat was always glazing sentinel

[noble fractal]

i got it right away but I wasn’t active here for silksong release

[tight viper]

Same

[noble fractal]

so I can’t really say for specifically this server

[hallow rover]

I got to experience silksong mostly unspoiled even though I played late

[tight viper]

Only started talking here after 100%

[trim estuary]

They all got banned… sad days

[noble fractal]

same

[light swan]

only like 1 of them did

[trim estuary]

Same

[light swan]

i think i did too

[coarse leaf]

you can NOT tell me this boss is fun

[hallow rover]

I just came here cuz I was bored

[raw pawn]

Reserve bind is one of those tools that sound pretty useful in concept but you still can't find a use to it

But I think it can be good with witch and beast

[noble fractal]

I mean nobody said that

[tight viper]

Lugoli is the worse boss in the game

Kill it

[hallow rover]

Idk I used it for karmelita and I beat it that try

[noble fractal]

lugoli is unremarkable

they sure are a boss that is in the game

[raw pawn]

Zango is right there

[light swan]

wait i genuinely found lugoli enjoyable

[hallow rover]

I also think it’s good for bilewater and ducts exploration

[tight viper]

Zango is better

Zango has the Needle Phial

[light swan]

it has a nice rhythm to it

[hallow rover]

lugoli is very susceptible to circlet

[noble fractal]

lugoli is fine I don’t like maggots but like you just equip the wreath and it’s way less of a problem

[light swan]

and every attack is super predictable based on where lugoli positions themself

[noble fractal]

Yea

[coarse leaf]

SOMEONE HELPPPP

[noble fractal]

i mostly only get hit cuz I’m trying to play too fast

[trim estuary]

Wif wha

[coarse leaf]

HOW DO I DO THISSS HOW DO I DEFEAT HIM IN 30 SECOD

[tight viper]

All of my hatred for Lugoli stems from floorless, if it didn’t Lugoli would be C or D probably

But that experience was just dreadful

[noble fractal]

what do you need to beat them in 30 seconds for just take it slow

[hallow rover]

The only “boss” that made me really frustrated was the damn verdania gauntlet

Thank fuck verdania enemies are a one time thing

[trim estuary]

I wish we had more of the Verdania enemies tbh

[coarse leaf]

CHEF LUGOLI

[noble fractal]

father of the flame was kinda annoying but they’re also a pretty interesting boss imo and I can respect that about them

bell is basically mandatory tho lol

[raw pawn]

I love court of craws for some reason

[hallow rover]

lugoli prolly woulda cooked hornet if she died so how would one cook hornet

[trim estuary]

Oh that’s easy. Just fight them. If they leave the arena and don’t came back you gotta save and quit though

[tight viper]

Crawfather is cool

[noble fractal]

fire

[trim estuary]

Crawfather is the peak of Silksong

[raw pawn]

I like how he sucks at fighting so you are mainly fighting the minions lmao

[hallow rover]

crawfather’s ding ding ding when he’s doing the floor attack is music to my ears

[coarse leaf]

haha

chef ass

ass jim

[raw pawn]

Yk for a boss that can fly Crawfather flies like 10% of the fight only

[coarse leaf]

where do i get these

[raw pawn]

Did you save the couriers?

[coarse leaf]

who

[noble fractal]

tipp and pipp

should be in bellhart if you got it

[raw pawn]

Remember when the bellhart shopkeeper told you to save someone?

[hallow rover]

For crustnut you gotta find where the nut crusts

[noble fractal]

Well Said.

[hallow rover]

In sands of karak

[raw pawn]

Did you save his brother

[coarse leaf]

where is sands of karek

[raw pawn]

[hallow rover]

pipp 🥺

[hallow rover]

above where pinstress is