sk-discussion

[soft belfry]

I shaman cheesed

...I'm not steel soul

For this save file lol

[slender zealot]

Oh

I thought u were

[soft belfry]

No my furthest died to judge

SS1 died to Bell Beast
SS2 died to Last Judge

Haven't started SS3

[slender zealot]

Do you have all tool pouches and crafting kits

[ocean quarry]

oh you mean last judge

not the regular enemy

[still osprey]

I haven't done steel soul but furthest I've gone deathless is early Act 2 I believe?

[soft belfry]

My ahh chased last judge on 2hp and died to contact

[slender zealot]

Ss1 of mine died to craw lake spikes cuz i cannot pogo properly with hunters

[soft belfry]

I'm hunter main

[ocean quarry]

act 1 phantom is probably a smarter idea for steel soul anyway

cuz you unlock grand bellway earlier

[soft belfry]

But the downpogo do feel like rng sometimes

[soft belfry]

I thought mist might kill

[slender zealot]

You know how to skip underworks with lj right

[ocean quarry]

fair enough

[still osprey]

I have no plans on doing steel soul so if I go up to gms and happen to beat her deathless while playing normally I'll cheat in the achievement because there is literally no difference and I don't like perma-death 😌

[soft belfry]

Might do that for 3rd ss but knowing my ego I'll go last judge without magma bell again 💀

[ocean quarry]

i don't

you can reach that spool fragment without faydown??

[soft belfry]

Most people know tho

??? i assume?

[slender zealot]

Its a secret to the right of the scales in grand gate

[soft belfry]

Tip the scales

[ocean quarry]

how

[slender zealot]

Hit the scales from below

[still osprey]

You can slash the platforms to change them yea

[ocean quarry]

WHAT

[soft belfry]

I need to rant about my no rosary challenge pain

[ocean quarry]

god fucking-

[soft belfry]

I was like ehh lets have some fun and went to underworks

[soft belfry]

I didn't have a single bench, I had to route out of underworks in one shot

[ocean quarry]

wait, even if the scales are tipped, can you reach them with a single jump

[slender zealot]

And this is too good for speedrun

[soft belfry]

Yes ledge grab

I have done it

[ocean quarry]

is it precise

[soft belfry]

It's just enough

[slender zealot]

Me too

[soft belfry]

There's a bit of room for error

[ocean quarry]

interesting

[soft belfry]

If ur average or slightly below average you can still make it

[ocean quarry]

still tho, phantom unlocks grand bellway earlier

[slender zealot]

Does my pfp look like watcher at tge edge

[soft belfry]

If you have a huge buffer between inputs due to bad controller it might be a bit harder

[soft belfry]

It looks like steel radiance

[slender zealot]

Heyyyy

[soft belfry]

What's the use of bellway

[ocean quarry]

bench, mainly

[soft belfry]

But I haven't fought watcher so

[ocean quarry]

plus you get a free memory locket if you beat phantom

[slender zealot]

Whattttttttttt

[soft belfry]

The shortcut is good tho

[soft belfry]

There is a locket on the judge route too

[ocean quarry]

ye but it's harder to get

[soft belfry]

Er no it's free and a tiny detour

[rotund canyon]

Its not that hard...

[ocean quarry]

wait no i'm thinking of the craftmetal

[slender zealot]

Btw you dont need watcher for 100%

[soft belfry]

I figured but thanks a lot

[still osprey]

there is no better feeling in this game than scream skipping Seth 😌

[soft belfry]

Me who shamaned seth

I like how I went from Hunter to Beast then Shaman

[ocean quarry]

i just whaled on him with plasmified architect

does that make me a bad person

[soft belfry]

I never learnt how to use archhitect

[rotund canyon]

I didnt even know there was shaman crest until I beat lost lace 🫤

[soft belfry]

No but you might be insulted by people who fought legit

Seth doesn't actually die in the fight so it doesn't matter

[soft belfry]

New savefile?

[rotund canyon]

I didnt see the short cut for the Seth fight and I did the whole platforming segment everytime I die to him

[rotund canyon]

After I beat lost lace I just continued my journey 100%ing the game, same savefile

[soft belfry]

I meant to try shaman maybe a second save after 100% main

[rotund canyon]

I tried it once

[rotund canyon]

Im probably gonna try yeah

[toxic vigil]

Hunter kinda sucks because you only get the 2nd upgrade very late act 2 or early act 3

So before that its just like okay

Evo 0 hunter is just not good though

[earnest drift]

interesting

now that i think about it is flukenest actually good against watcher knights

[candid loom]

I ran plasmified architect but I used that charm that uses silk to throw fireballs occasionally to deal damage since I could NOT engage Seth normally (severe skill issue)

[earnest drift]

because if you hit two of them at the same time with a regular shade soul you'll deal the same damage

[rotund canyon]

Dumbest things I did in silksong gotta be
Not finding the groal the great secret bench AND the Bilewater bellway bench, I used Styx's bench everytime I die to him and I fought phantom without the bench

[strange knot]

Fluke nest is literally the most broken charm

[toxic vigil]

Flukenest multihits:

[earnest drift]

ignoring the bug i mean

i've never been able to abuse flukenest

[rotund canyon]

Flukenest is such a broken (literal) charm

[strange knot]

I don’t think I’ve ever equipped fluke nest

[toxic vigil]

Then its ass

[rotund canyon]

3 charm notches for shorter range and slightly higher damage

Hell nah

[earnest drift]

dmg is doubled that's not slightly

[rotund canyon]

oh

[strange knot]

Tbf no one is using flukenest without the bug

[earnest drift]

it's bad if you're fighting multiple enemies or you can multihit the boss with shade soul anyway

i find it neat for stuff like pure vessel and flukemarm (the irony)

[rotund canyon]

"You dare use my own weapon against me?"

or like charm... but you get it.

[earnest drift]

i used flukenest to beat watcher knights for the first time but i don't think it was a good idea in hindsight

i would've gotten the same dmg if i hit 2 watcher knights with 1 shade soul

[rotund canyon]

I only touched flukenest once

and I dont even remember why where and when I used it

[earnest drift]

out of every charm flukenest seems like it'd have the most confusing lore

why is the organ of a mother of disgusting worms able to connect to a shaman's spell

did flukemarm eat a shaman

[lean yoke]

That cost all of my aura holy shit

[earnest drift]

groal the great equipping flukenest seems fitting

[rotund canyon]

"THEY JUMPING ME"

[rotund canyon]

groal's design really reminds me of soul master

something something soul

[lean yoke]

I mean... Wouldn't be far fetched

[weak depot]

hes so precious 🥹

good god i just realised hes off rhythm

😭

[rotund canyon]

Its the thought that counts...

[lean yoke]

That's so fucking funny

[placid lichen]

I have defeated first sinner

[old raft]

nice

[still osprey]

gg I loove first sinner

[placid lichen]

this touch controllers 😭

[placid lichen]

Where's second sinner

[old raft]

thats called second sentinel

[placid lichen]

how is second sentinel

[old raft]

then we have third beastfly
fourth chorus
fifth beastfly
sixth beastfly
seventh beastfly
etc etc

[placid lichen]

we have to put the beastflies to an extinction

[rotund canyon]

First sinner, Second Sentinel, _________, Fourth Chorus

Wheres the 3rd bro...

[near mirage]

Ok bro

[unkempt steeple]

Get ready for the third clover dancer

They used to be polycule until the other two broke up with him

[burnt pagoda]

fuck it
add in a fourth clover dancer for good luck

[rotund canyon]

Bro yall are cooking

[unkempt steeple]

When we need more numbers bc of twelth architect

Fifth chorus

Sixth sinner

Seventh sentinel

Eigth trobbio

[rotund canyon]

The last one in the list gotta be the Last Judge...

[cerulean sable]

I think it was a little disrespectful for the Knight to start beatboxing at Hornet mourning Herrahs death

[earnest drift]

phantom is better than broken vessel

[near mirage]

Awoo!

[earnest drift]

i like needle strike

[ocean quarry]

no it isn't

[earnest drift]

should've used quickslash instead

[ocean quarry]

watcher knights are easier the more you stay away from them

[placid lichen]

grrr... bug no flea

[near mirage]

Awoo

[split lodge]

FINALLY

99% in steel soul

[lean yoke]

It works for me 😒

[split lodge]

Now only the everbloom to claim

[lean yoke]

Aura farmed his ass

[placid lichen]

:o

ur good!!!

[copper hedge]

is there an explanation why hornet loses red tools in a memory fight

[ocean quarry]

true but why is that even a comparison

so random

[weak depot]

which one

[earnest drift]

first dinner

[weak depot]

first sinner

[copper hedge]

first sinner

[copper hedge]

damn...

[weak depot]

delicious

[copper hedge]

what was the dinner meal

[earnest drift]

fried tarantulas

[ocean quarry]

first sinner isn't technically a memory fight

she just doesn't land a fatal blow on you

[placid lichen]

Am I the only one who keeps forgetting that you can hold attack button to release a massive attack

[weak depot]

i use it quite often

pairs up quite well with shaman crest

[copper hedge]

why does the popup "Can't use items in a memory" show up when using a consumable item in the inventory mid-fight?

[clever crystal]

chat should i get the red quil or should i complete the steel soul run without a quil?

[earnest drift]

yes and i like it

[ocean quarry]

tfym "popup"

[earnest drift]

much better than nail arts

[ocean quarry]

do you use mods

[copper hedge]

no?

[weak depot]

...i definetly can

[placid lichen]

Is this why the cocoon doesn't appear in the arena?

[ocean quarry]

yes

[weak depot]

a memory fight is one which u get to using the elegy of the deep

[placid lichen]

So basically she just kicks me out of the room when I lose-

[ocean quarry]

precisely

[placid lichen]

Damn bitch

I defeated first sinner like am hour ago

[ocean quarry]

better than killing you tbh

[copper hedge]

whats this then

[placid lichen]

True I don't wanna travel all that way just to die again

[earnest drift]

wait whatg

[ocean quarry]

i have no idea

[placid lichen]

So it is a memory

[earnest drift]

you can't open shard bundles in a memory?

[placid lichen]

I see now

[ocean quarry]

might be an oversight/bug

[copper hedge]

u cant

[opaque vale]

Tung tung tung sahur

[copper hedge]

or even rosary strings

[earnest drift]

so architect is slightly weaker in a memory

[ocean quarry]

cuz like how tf do you even get into a memory in the context of first sinner

[copper hedge]

the only pro for architect in a memory fight is an extra red tool slot

[ocean quarry]

you enter a fucking room

[weak depot]

i ngl totally forgot about the apostate key till midway of act 3 so i did the first sinner when i was op as hell

[ocean quarry]

a regular-ass room

where memory

[earnest drift]

you can still use shards in your normal shard pouch

[opaque vale]

And no matter what the fight is plasmium is a huge combo

[copper hedge]

hmmmm. considering binding is also binding the person's memories, maybe first sinner refuses?

or wants to know if this one is worthy of it

[ocean quarry]

yes

[earnest drift]

i think it's this

[still osprey]

yea I think First Sinner wants to test Hornet

[ocean quarry]

plus i'm pretty sure first sinner wants to die

and hornet is p much the only being in pharloom that can do it

[earnest drift]

first sinner is already dead

[copper hedge]

without absolution

[earnest drift]

hornet is fighting her memory

red tools get used in the fight because hornet is hallucinating i think

she's throwing her tools at thin air

[copper hedge]

the flea brew bottles.....

she's getting drunk again

[near mirage]

Awoo!
Awooo!

[ocean quarry]

then how does she get thrown out of the room when she fails

[ocean quarry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1428877438179479573/h8grtax021hf1.gif

[copper hedge]

magic ig

[earnest drift]

she imagines herself getting defeated, trips, falls backward outside the cell, then blacks out

[near mirage]

then how does her tools get replenished

[earnest drift]

she's on a bad trip don't expect it to make sense

[earnest drift]

they don't

[ocean quarry]

they don't

[near mirage]

Fuck

[earnest drift]

red tools are used up during first sinner despite being a memory

[near mirage]

the slab guards seeing hornet fight literally nothing;

[earnest drift]

as i said i think it's because she's throwing them at the air while fighting a hallucination

[ocean quarry]

poor hornet

[copper hedge]

it would be funny if we get to see all our used items in the room after binding her to show that it was all just a memory and hornet was fighting air this whole time

[earnest drift]

that would be so fucking peak

[ocean quarry]

poor hornet, seeing ghosts everywhere

[frozen meadow]

are there any mods for the other bosses like the radiance one

[earnest drift]

unlike the knight who sees actual ghosts

[copper hedge]

💀

[ocean quarry]

my joke was also about the knight being referred by hornet as "ghost"

[near mirage]

(except most of the dream warriors actually are so ahh)

[split lodge]

Now I’m hungry

[ocean quarry]

the fact that they're ass doesn't mean they're not ghosts

[near mirage]

True

Markoth can rot in the pits of hell though

Especially his ascended form

[copper hedge]

hungry? grab a double cheeseburger from First Diner's. grab it before our grand mother does!

only at 99 rosaries

[ocean quarry]

he is rotting in the pits of the colosseum, technically

[near mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-6069929492524291916

[copper hedge]

i keep forgetting that FS has contact damage on stagger

i hate contact damage on stagger

[ocean quarry]

pure vessel kneeling to hit you

[earnest drift]

did he die in the colosseum? i missed that

[near mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/first-sinner-silksong-gif-6894299109498768423

[ocean quarry]

no but kingdom's edge serves as the colosseum's corpse dump

[near mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/first-sinner-first-sinner-silksong-silksong-silksong-goodnight-first-sinner-goodnight-gif-2928060975819170066

[copper hedge]

with a conveniently placed acid pool too

[near mirage]

Wtf is ts

[copper hedge]

but its a 50/50 if a body gets dissolved or not

[broken seal]

peak

[near mirage]

Meowwwww

[ocean quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/shakra-wife-hollow-knight-silksong-silksong-shakra-shakra-silksong-gif-14675113601416117710

[copper hedge]

"what is this child wielding needle doing?"

[ocean quarry]

simping

[frozen meadow]

no :(

[ocean quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/go-my-scarab-go-my-cogfly-cogfly-silksong-whatever-go-my-cogfly-gif-3567425369574449808

[rancid rover]

how do i mod silksong?

[manic schooner]

thunderstore

[white sail]

No tag mods found.

[rotund canyon]

yeah thunderstore

[rancid rover]

is there a channel where it is explained how?

[manic schooner]

nope

[rotund canyon]

Idk I just downloaded it and signed in

[ocean quarry]

there is a silksong modding server

[manic schooner]

u install it through overwolf and then u maje a progile in a game

then u add tge mods u want

[rotund canyon]

Probably the easiest one

to get

[still osprey]

you can use Cogfly, a silksong mod installer

[arctic epoch]

Wanderer suckass

[earnest drift]

do lost lace attacks ignore i frames

[neat remnant]

Used r2modman as the mod installer
NOT thunderstore

They're both similar, but thunderstore can outright crash your game as certain points

[rancid rover]

i mean i just want the mod to see boss hp

[neat remnant]

Could also install Cogfly, but it is still in its early versions

[plucky onyx]

try shaman

[arctic epoch]

Shaman suckass

[neat remnant]

No, you literally cannot launch the game sometimes, if you use thunderstore

[rancid rover]

k

[neat remnant]

Again, go with r2modman

[earnest drift]

god i love lost lace

[plucky onyx]

whats the best one according to you

[rancid rover]

you kno where i can found mods? or they are in the launcher already

i remember ui used lumafly for hollow knight once

[arctic epoch]

the least bad one is Witch imo

but i hate all crest equally

[plucky onyx]

why 😭

[neat remnant]

If you're familiar with lumafly, r2modman is similar

[copper hedge]

i use Gale tho i just copy the command it uses mentioned in the logs so i can just make a shortcut for it so i dont have to open it everytime i want to play modded (i would only open it for installing and configuring mods)

[arctic epoch]

which one are we asking?

[still osprey]

I've never done early Hunter's March before this was awesome

[plucky onyx]

why do you have all crests equally idm the witch its rly elegant

[copper hedge]

poshanka

[arctic epoch]

because they all suck

[plucky onyx]

in what way tho i mean reaper isnt that bad

[silk pumice]

Beast is amazing

[arctic epoch]

they just all suck

[silk pumice]

Can't hate that masterpiece

[plucky onyx]

i agree fr i also love shaman ngl

[silk pumice]

Shaman and wanderers aren't very high for me

[still osprey]

I wish I liked Shaman more

[plucky onyx]

wait those 2 are my main 😭

[silk pumice]

The silk skill versatility is amazing, but the heal and lack of slots hurt me

[plucky onyx]

im kinda mid 😭

[plucky onyx]

vestacrest or how its called works for me

[silk pumice]

The wanderers crest is just hk but buffed

And I dont like that

Vesticrest is for every crest though

[plucky onyx]

it is true wow never relised it

[plucky onyx]

yup but for shaman it helps a lot with the lack of slots

[old raft]

is silk anklet faster than hunter crest dive dash

[earnest drift]

bad attack area, only one red tool, one of the lowest dps at high skill

[still osprey]

My Crest ranking might be a little cursed but it's

Hunter >> Wanderer > Beast > Architect > Witch >= Shaman > Reaper

[plucky onyx]

hunter main?

[arctic epoch]

nerfed*

[still osprey]

yep I love my Hunter crest

[plucky onyx]

or am i just dumb

[silk pumice]

Yeah

[old raft]

mine is hunter=shaman=warderer then same

[silk pumice]

How so?

[rotund canyon]

Fellow Hunters crest fan

[arctic epoch]

literally explained above in a very neat way

[plucky onyx]

fr should i go and be myself a witch main

your choicr

[silk pumice]

I didn't see sorry

[earnest drift]

is it ever explained why hornet can stand on void

[still osprey]

The thing about Shaman is every time I used a silk skill I felt like an unstoppable force of nature but every second I spent not using a silk skill I wanted to kill the nearest person to me and then myself

[silk pumice]

Ill look

[rotund canyon]

ground with void liquid maybe

wet floor????

[plucky onyx]

i agree

[still osprey]

The attack speed is extremely slow, the Bind is the worst out of the crests, the running attack is ??? and the needle strike is nothing too crazy

[plucky onyx]

of witch?

[still osprey]

Shaman

[plucky onyx]

oh lol

[silk pumice]

You do know that doesn't mean it was nerfed

Just that its not as good comparatively

[plucky onyx]

guys lets vote do a ✅ if i should main witch and a ❌ if not :D

[silk pumice]

I recommend beast

[slender juniper]

Main what you like to use(except reaper)

[plucky onyx]

what?

[broken seal]

Main what you like to use (even if it's Reaper)

[plucky onyx]

shaman and wanderer 😭

[still osprey]

Main Reaper

[silk pumice]

Whys reaper being shit on

[slender juniper]

Shaman,wanderer,hunter,witch,beast and architect all are goof crests...reaper isnt

[plucky onyx]

why is everyone reccomending reaper

[broken seal]

Give all of the crests a chance and try playing with all of them. But
do Shaman between these two

[arctic epoch]

oh okay

• below average nart (doesnt even have 3 nart or 3 silk skill)
• far less options for charm because more than 50% of the slots are yellow which isn't that useful
• doesn't have a tech to make it any better for highly skilled player

[slender juniper]

The attacks dont do anymore damage and the bind sucks

[plucky onyx]

i dont use it cause i think its too slow

[cerulean sable]

Ops here planting reaper hate as usual

[plucky onyx]

i tried like a lot but on my 100% safe file im gonna main witch now IT HAS BEEN DECIDED

[broken seal]

Reaper is bad IN COMPARISON to the other creats. It is perfectly viable to use.

[rotund canyon]

Reaper carried me early game cuz I suck so much

[broken seal]

W

[slender juniper]

Its just hard mode

[still osprey]

I don't like Reaper personally but that shouldn't stop anyone from using it. Go attack enemies with your 0.75 dps as long as you're having fun that's what matters 🫡

[old raft]

i think its because gms used her silk to build this room
even the ground is just voided silk

[broken seal]

It's slow mode, not hard mode

[rotund canyon]

yuh

[slender juniper]

Aka hard mode

[plucky onyx]

thats why i dont like reaper 😭

[broken seal]

aura

[earnest drift]

but shouldn't the ground be round and concave

[rotund canyon]

Wait hes got a point

[earnest drift]

because it's a cocoon

[old raft]

you are underestimating a higher beings power

[plucky onyx]

ig gms just split the void core in 2 parts

[old raft]

tbf the wall is round

[slender juniper]

Phantom or last judge to act 2

[old raft]

both

[plucky onyx]

phantom (you will get cross stitch)

[slender juniper]

You cant

[broken seal]

Do both

[earnest drift]

lost lace arena

[rotund canyon]

Phantom if you dont like long runbacks

Last judge if you want last judge :]

Yes...

[earnest drift]

how does she stand there

[plucky onyx]

yeah this is true

[slender juniper]

Cross stitch is nice against trobbio but last judge is faster

[broken seal]

the round wall is silk. the "void" floor is also silk

[plucky onyx]

ig depends what you are going for if just 100% then both ofc

[slender juniper]

Speedrun

[earnest drift]

so the cocoon is a hemisphere?

[broken seal]

if you play optimally Mist route is fadter

[old raft]

its like the silk in abyss
theose are flat too

in the weaver nest there

i forgot the name

[plucky onyx]

i remembered phantom was faster right

[broken seal]

that or it's the same as your drawing but it's half full of condensed silk

[slender juniper]

Nope, halfway home craw skip is extremely easy

[broken seal]

Mist route is still faster lol

[slender juniper]

Greymoor bell skip was discovered

[slender juniper]

Only on release patch with cloakless

The mist and exhaust organ are too long

[broken seal]

oh you're current patch lol

[earnest drift]

oh that would make sense because as the silk decays from the void, it collects there

[broken seal]

either route is fine

[plucky onyx]

good luck idk im not rly into speedrunning @slender juniper

[earnest drift]

and gms replaces it

[still osprey]

ok but have you considered Phantom is awesome

[slender juniper]

No

[broken seal]

So is LJ

[earnest drift]

phantom brings the hk franchise from a 10/10 to a 15/10

[old raft]

i think phantom has more aura

[broken seal]

Also are you actually speedrunning or are you just doing sub 5 hour

[slender juniper]

I started a speedrun and I failed the fucking beastfly pogo

[slender juniper]

I already got the achievment

[still osprey]

beastfly pogo is like a coin toss I swear

[broken seal]

💀

[still osprey]

sometimes the beastfly cooperates and you get it first try, other times it refuses to work for 10 minutes

[slender juniper]

I have to route my rosaries cuz im buying stuff from the 12th architect

I want saw circlet

[plucky onyx]

for gms i suppose?

[slender juniper]

Gms and high halls

[plucky onyx]

gl mate i will pray for you

[earnest drift]

if 12th architect is meant to serve weavers why do they still take payment from hornet

[hallow rover]

more importantly what is she using that money fore when she’s js gonna die anyways

[broken seal]

relic on the left of silkspear room, another relic just past drifters cloak area, beastfly pogo breakable wall on the right is 60 rosaries, underneath hunter's march entrance but above the entrance to straight pin room there's a hidden dugout that has 44 rosaries i believe

[slender juniper]

Im going for silkspear, mosshome relic, pogo to the otherside get the weaver effigy there

Also the bone scroll in greymoor

Plus strings on the way

[broken seal]

yuh

you should have more than enough lol

and you get more just by killing random enemies ofc

[silk pumice]

But thats the game systems youre talking about

Not the actual moveset

I mean just the crest

[arctic epoch]

[earnest drift]

i have stopped hating cogflies
because they complement snitch pick well
and i love snitch pick

[still osprey]

why would you hate cogflies

[earnest drift]

because they were lazy and inactive to use

and still had a max dmg similar to straight pin

but snitch pick/clawline isn't very useful if you have ranged red tools

[broken seal]

mf that's a 5

[earnest drift]

so by putting out cogflies and letting them do their thing, you can clawline all you want when the boss is at a distance

[unkempt steeple]

lace just killed me bc her parry attack didn't even appear when I hit her

[earnest drift]

who suffered more, the hollow knight or the average forgotten vessel

[raven elbow]

hello i have a question

[broken seal]

THK

[broken seal]

ask away

[unkempt steeple]

me

[earnest drift]

and in silksong it's the other way round because phantom suffered way more than lace

[raven elbow]

if i beat nightmare grimm can i get the charms carefree melody

[broken seal]

No

[unkempt steeple]

you get the final grimmchild upgrade

[raven elbow]

this means i can't 112 pourcent hk?

[broken seal]

no, you still can lol

[raven elbow]

okayy thx

[broken seal]

Carefree Melody and Grimmchild both give 1%, it doesn't matter which one you have

[still osprey]

Grimmchild and Melody are both a %

You get a % no matter which one you have

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/d8lvB96CnZM.gif

[raven elbow]

thx !!

[broken seal]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-basketball-ice-dunk-hornet-gif-3999940650987546913

[midnight jasper]

I got Sharpdart

[slender juniper]

Carefree melody sucks anyways

[broken seal]

Shartfart

[broken seal]

It's decent

[still osprey]

better than grimmchild

[slender juniper]

Deadly fart

[broken seal]

True

Db is typing the entire bee movie script rn or smth

bro's been typing for the last like 4 minutes

https://giphy.com/gifs/degisikhesabmis-gamevault-memevault-VOkpcujSu5L77ysRiD

[modest vessel]

Beating him is a %

And carefree melody is the % u get if you abolish the troupe

You cant beat him and get the charm in the same save

[midnight jasper]

||No you have to banish the troupe, get two Grimmchild upgrades by defeating 6 Grimmkins. After that, go to the Distant Village in Deepnest and you'll find Brumm in one of the houses. He'll give you a nightmare flame, then meet him again at the spot where you spawned the Grimm troupe then you'll find Brumm there, hit the thing a few times and you'll banish the Grimm troupe, then talk to Brumm again in Dirtmouth but he'll be known as "Nymm". Then just keep talking to him and you'll find the Carefree Melody charm.||

||You can do this or just simply defeat NKG but you won't get Carefree Melody if you defeat NKG but rather the last upgrade of the Grimmchild charm.||

||Doing either of these gives you a 1%||

Base Hollow Knight spoilers ^^^^

[modest vessel]

Then the grimmchild 3rd upgrade is a percent

[broken seal]

nvm ignore what i just said

me when i'm the liar who lies

[modest vessel]

I don't rrmember

[midnight jasper]

Lads put your messages on spoilers this is the Silksong chat 😭

[broken seal]

nah it was me beinf stupid 💀

[modest vessel]

No

[broken seal]

You are not required to spoiler HK or SK related messages in this chat

[midnight jasper]

I'm pretty sure this is only for #hk-general

[modest vessel]

Ima spoil the ending of both games rn

[midnight jasper]

This is a silksong only chat

#hk-discussion is a Hollow Knight only chat

#hk-general is for both

[broken seal]

You can still talk about hk here, and you don't need to spoiler messages relating to it

[midnight jasper]

However though I think you can still slide in some stuff about the games just not experience-ruining ones

[broken seal]

for discussions about hk it's better to move to #hk-discussion but if you're talkinf about hk stuff and sk stuff at the same time this spot is better

[midnight jasper]

Correct me if im wrong

[broken seal]

none of this is experience ruining and you don't need to put spoiler marks on messages here lol

[crisp heron]

hollow knight spoilers

gorb

[midnight jasper]

Oh alright

[broken seal]

ass boss

[midnight jasper]

I thought you had to put spoilers but now I know

[arctic epoch]

Hollow Knight spoiler, ascended markoth

[broken seal]

same with all of the other dream warriors

[midnight jasper]

Barely did this boss on radiant

[crisp heron]

markoth is a good boss

[midnight jasper]

But it's just a skill issue of mine

[midnight jasper]

Radiant Markoth.

[broken seal]

None of the dream warriors are good bosses lowkey

[midnight jasper]

They're pretty easy

[broken seal]

all of them are complete rng bullshit

even if they're easy it's still annoying

[midnight jasper]

However though Markoth is just

[crisp heron]

elder hu is the only bad one

[midnight jasper]

Not easy

[broken seal]

and as someone who does speedrunning, bosses that rely entirely on rng are not good

[midnight jasper]

You can literally shade cloak through his magical pancakes

[broken seal]

it's easy, she's not saying it's hard

[crisp heron]

yeah but he keeps dissapearing for like 4 seconds to do an attack

[broken seal]

elder hu sucks

[midnight jasper]

Yeah I'm just saying something about it

[broken seal]

all of the dream warriors suck

all cringe and luck-based and obnoxious

[crisp heron]

i like gorb galien xero and markoth alot

[broken seal]

i like the characters and concepts just fine but the actual fights suck

[midnight jasper]

Eh it's not that bad but I think it could be better

No Eyes is the worst one so far

[broken seal]

No Eyes is the original Pale Stag

[midnight jasper]

The only thing good about her is the lore

[broken seal]

i like Pale Stag more than No Eyes tho but still

[midnight jasper]

Not the actual boss fight

It has no fun involved I believe

It's just really creepy

[crisp heron]

The 7 dream warrior fights of silksong are

Palestag
Plasmified zango
Watcher at the edge
voltvyrm
gurr
pinstress
shakra

[midnight jasper]

Hm I just got the Plasmium Phial today

[still osprey]

watcher and shakra are fine

[broken seal]

Dream Warriors all worse than these lol

[still osprey]

gurr is also ok after the buff

[midnight jasper]

Watcher Knights haha

[broken seal]

i liked the pinstress fight it was fun for me, overhated fight

[split lodge]

I just got Steel Heart and Speed Completion in one same save file

LFG

[broken seal]

W, gg

Now go die to a pilgrim in Moss Grotto

(I'm kidding keep it alive for steel soul DLC)

[split lodge]

When in doubt spam cogflies and sting shards

[broken seal]

😭

[midnight jasper]

Do you actually need to fall victim to the Wardenfly to go to Mountain Fay

[broken seal]

No

[split lodge]

No

[midnight jasper]

I want the Faydown Cloak

Oh what actually???

[split lodge]

Pass through the choral chambers ASAP after clawline

And you can get to the bellway

[midnight jasper]

Oh I got Clawline

[split lodge]

Bring about 300 rosaries

[broken seal]

yeah just jeeo going left in choral chambers

[midnight jasper]

Which area exactly

[split lodge]

Look up a map on wiki

[broken seal]

@midnight jasper

[midnight jasper]

Where do you find Rune Rage by the way?

[rotund canyon]

You fight a certain boss

in act 2

[midnight jasper]

Which

[rotund canyon]

Its in the slab

[midnight jasper]

Oh

[still osprey]

Man I love silksong, silksong is so cool...

[rotund canyon]

So cool

[midnight jasper]

So what other route should I use to get to Mount Fay

[earnest drift]

silksong is better than hollow knight

[midnight jasper]

I'm overwhelmed

[rotund canyon]

ok

[split lodge]

There’s only 1 way in

[rotund canyon]

Slab

[split lodge]

You go past the slab’s bellway

[rotund canyon]

What abilities do you have? @midnight jasper

[split lodge]

And if you have flintslate use it

[cerulean sable]

I would play rainbow silksiege

[still osprey]

I love both games a lot but I tried playing hk again after silksong and I actually cannot live without silksong movement I kept trying to hold dash to sprint and harpoon midair

[midnight jasper]

Didn't you just say you can get to Mount Fay without going to the Slab

[broken seal]

use dashmaster it feels slightly better

[still osprey]

Like. You can't jump out of a dash in hk. what....

[midnight jasper]

All act I abilities and Clawline + Drifter's CLoak and Needolin

[rotund canyon]

yeah your all set for Mount fay

[broken seal]

you can go to the slab without getting captured, but you have to go to the slab to get to mount fay. Don't worry though, you don't actually need to do stuff in the slab, just head towards the bellway and you're fine

[rotund canyon]

You can go to the slab 2 ways

[still osprey]

PABLO!!!

[midnight jasper]

How do I enter the Slab without getting captured

[rotund canyon]

one is getting captured and the other is thru the choral chambers

[broken seal]

@midnight jasper

you walk in

[earnest drift]

the front legs are bending the wrong way

[midnight jasper]

Oh I see it now

[earnest drift]

this is a subtle reference to pablo not being canon

[midnight jasper]

Do I need to do any gauntlets to get to the Bellway

[broken seal]

no

[still osprey]

I think we should make Pablo canon

[midnight jasper]

Ooo

Okay thank you man

[earnest drift]

i will die

[broken seal]

np

[still osprey]

Like, in a good way?

[earnest drift]

no

[midnight jasper]

I really don't like losing my gear and falling victim to the Wardenflies 😭

[split lodge]

Crystal dash doesn’t hold a candle to harpoon

[still osprey]

Oh... I see how it is...

[earnest drift]

i don't like pablo, pablo would be better if you removed the p, b and o, reversed it and added ce to the end

[split lodge]

You can clear the slab by going in actually

It’s not necessary to get captured

[midnight jasper]

Yeah that's what I'll do

[broken seal]

You only lose your gear if you get captured somewhere in act 1. If you just go inside normally, you don't lose your stuff and you can clear the entire area normally

[still osprey]

Harpoon is the best movement and combat ability ever conceptualized by a human being

[rocky lotus]

Your name has once again been proven inaccurate

[hallow rover]

by a human being?

[broken seal]

MIO fans will say Hairpin and they're definitely right but still

[midnight jasper]

I went to the Greymoor Bellway and I saw a Wardenfly

[earnest drift]

apparently it's boring compared to other metroidvanias but i haven't played other metroidvanias sooo

[midnight jasper]

I instantly panicked and left

I have a question though

[earnest drift]

you cannot seriously be defending pablo of all things

[rotund canyon]

yes ask away

[broken seal]

alec?

[split lodge]

It’s somehow both combat and traversal effective (look up killing hollow knight with crystal heart)

[midnight jasper]

Can I get captured by the Wardenfly after clearing the Slab

[rotund canyon]

nope

[rocky lotus]

No i just hate lace

[earnest drift]

i get it if you want to defend hk but why would you ever defend pablo

[broken seal]

no

[rotund canyon]

You can only get captured once

[midnight jasper]

Oh alright thanks guys

[rotund canyon]

Good luck with the SLAB....

[midnight jasper]

I'll go to the Slab and do Mount Fay

[earnest drift]

pablo is so horrible he hardly even exists, bro is wd gaster except at least gaster is canon

[rotund canyon]

And Ice path of mild inconvenience

[midnight jasper]

I want to save the big flea LOL

[broken seal]

That's in a different spot

[rotund canyon]

yeah you need to clear mount fay to save the big flea

[midnight jasper]

What is this bro

[rotund canyon]

Do it for the FLEAAAA

[broken seal]

oh yeah forgot about that lol

[midnight jasper]

Yeah the Memorium

[split lodge]

You need double jump for almost all the good stuff

[rotund canyon]

yuh

[still osprey]

I always forget cdash deals damage icl

[midnight jasper]

Do you need Faydown Cloak for Sharpdart

[split lodge]

It makes cogwork parkour trivial

[rotund canyon]

I think

[split lodge]

Yes

[hallow rover]

You only need dash and cloak

[rotund canyon]

Yeah I think you need it for sharp dart

[broken seal]

it has marked down all item pickups, merchants, bellways, ventricas, NPC dialogues, quest related things, and bossfights (+ more)

[still osprey]

No you can make it with a harpoon and a dash

[hallow rover]

If you’re good enough

[midnight jasper]

I made it there with Harpoon

Without double jump

[broken seal]

you can do it without clawline too lol but it requires some tech

[earnest drift]

how does mio hairpin work anyway

[midnight jasper]

Oh what

[midnight jasper]

Spiderman

[rotund canyon]

Spiderman

[earnest drift]

how do you aim

[broken seal]

Clawline but omnidirectional or smth

• spiderman

[split lodge]

Getting clawline and double jump before attempting any act 2 stuff may be the most effective thing you can do

[midnight jasper]

What's mio

[earnest drift]

does it autolock

[midnight jasper]

Mario

[broken seal]

Memories in orbit, indie metroidvania that is super good (from what i've heard + seen)

[earnest drift]

or does the game freeze while you choose a direction

[broken seal]

Idk maybe

[broken seal]

prolly nah

[split lodge]

It gets you almost everything you need and with 9 masks and 18 spools the entire act 2 is easy

[earnest drift]

how would you feel if a third hk game had diagonal dashing and attacking

[rotund canyon]

time to adapt

[midnight jasper]

Nevermind I dont' want to play mio

[still osprey]

Can you get Clawline before Whiteward/Trobbio? I don't believe you can but correct me if I'm wrong

[midnight jasper]

It's going to break my pc

[split lodge]

Yes

[midnight jasper]

I don't like 3d indie games

[rotund canyon]

Yuh I think

[earnest drift]

it’s 2d

it just looks 3d

wait idk

[split lodge]

Whiteward basically has no enemies so it’s easier to get to clawline from there

[midnight jasper]

I think you need to head to Whiteward for Clawline but Trobbio no

Not sure tho

[earnest drift]

but it makes me scared

[midnight jasper]

But Whiteward is where I got Clawline from

[still osprey]

I mean you can get to clawline through Trobbio

That's how I usually do it

[midnight jasper]

Yeah but it's not required

[broken seal]

it's 2.5d

[earnest drift]

can trobbio be skipped

[split lodge]

But trobbio is basically epileptic seizure

[copper hedge]

is it just me or does this specific platform just looks off for some reason?

[broken seal]

2d but has 3d art stuff and enemies in the background (like radiance or gms)

[still osprey]

No I believe he's required for Vaultkeeper's Melody

[earnest drift]

yeah there’s a spider clinging to it

[still osprey]

Unless you do some weird stuff on old pat hes

[rotund canyon]

You cant skip him I think

[midnight jasper]

I got Ascendant's Grip

[broken seal]

that's because it's rotated 2 degrees clockwise

[midnight jasper]

Do I use it for Mount Fay

[rotund canyon]

awesome, that tool carried me for the platmorming stuff

[rotund canyon]

yeah you should...

[split lodge]

With wanderer’s and 9 masks you basically can just chase trobbio down and slap him to death

[midnight jasper]

Okay thanks

[rotund canyon]

also use flintslate if you do have one

since it stalls (DOES NOT RESET) the freezing

[midnight jasper]

I beat that vomit guy in Mosshome

[copper hedge]

the platform simply looks different in its texture

but idk if its just me

[rotund canyon]

who...??

[broken seal]

it's also not straight up

[broken seal]

Clagger

[rotund canyon]

Oh

Yeah forgot that guy exists

[midnight jasper]

He annoys me

[split lodge]

The amount of damage the voltvessels do is unholy

[copper hedge]

i did not beat the cragler and now its voided 💀

[split lodge]

I cheesed SO MANY bosses in steel soul with it

[copper hedge]

its spitting void

[midnight jasper]

I wanted to get to Wormways normally without dodging him everytime

[rotund canyon]

but isnt it in the worm ways...? or am I wrong

[midnight jasper]

No

[broken seal]

It's normal to dodge

[split lodge]

Cogflies kills it easily

[midnight jasper]

Next to the door

[still osprey]

The room is considered part of Wormways on the map

[rotund canyon]

You can kill him, it just takes a Looong while without tools

[broken seal]

It's the hallway that leads to wormways entrance

[still osprey]

It's funny

[midnight jasper]

Oh I have that

[rotund canyon]

500 cogflies.

[broken seal]

just tank the damage and use clawline + silktooth shenanigans (so peak)

[broken seal]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-silksong-silk-song-cogfly-jjk-meme-gif-4167678945148718622

(Don't use pollip pouch it's terrible)

[rotund canyon]

wait rlly

I just thought the extra poison dmg was neat...

[broken seal]

oh yeah it's 2nd worst blue tool in the game

[radiant sluice]

i am fighting nyleth rn

[rotund canyon]

I didnt know you can parry the pollen

[broken seal]

it does 12 extra damage at max upgrade, SOMETIMES

[rotund canyon]

welp. time to stop using it

[broken seal]

🙏

[radiant sluice]

tfym

[broken seal]

it's bad

[still osprey]

What's the worst?

[split lodge]

Overdosing on plasmium ✅

[broken seal]

Lantern

[radiant sluice]

the extra poison dmg helps a lot

[split lodge]

Egg

[still osprey]

Weavelight is great tho

[icy turtle]

||does anyone know where you can find an elder pilgrim???||

[broken seal]

it FEELS like it does, it doesn't do shit though

[rotund canyon]

what about snitch pick

[broken seal]

i mean whispfire lantern

[rotund canyon]

I mean it does extra damage for clawline....

[split lodge]

Outside the chapel of the wanderer

[radiant sluice]

doesnt it literally posion the enemy and give passive dmg

[rotund canyon]

but its pretty meh

[broken seal]

Snitch Pick is terrible for farming rosaries but for damage it's good

[still osprey]

Oh I forgot about it yea valid

[split lodge]

It has a chance of spawning

If no reset it in the moss mother bench

[still osprey]

Snitch Pick is a 25% damage increase to clawline that's pretty good

[rotund canyon]

oh

[icy turtle]

ok appreciate it

[broken seal]

yes but the damage is so small any other blue tool is better + it weakens Plasmium Phial and Flintslate which are 2 very strong red tools

[split lodge]

Hunter’s memento let’s go

[radiant sluice]

eh ig so

[rotund canyon]

no wonder why I deleted final boss of the game in like 1-2 mins

25% increased damage is pretty gud...

[broken seal]

anyway i gotta go to work lol goodbye chat

[rotund canyon]

Cya

Im going to sleep. My sleep schedule is so ass.

[broken seal]

Yeah get some rest bro 💔

don't let the bed bugs bite (unless it's Shakra or smth lowkey worth it)

[rotund canyon]

staying up until 12 even tho Im supposed to wake up at 6 💔

[old raft]

duuuuude

my steel soul run died to lace1 😭
i suck so much

like what the hell was i doing 😭

[dreamy tangle]

bro mine died to a random enemy in deep docks

[daring basin]

done that before, i got pulled into her block punishment pin strike

[dreamy tangle]

i just realized people might think my name is father of the flame and not fury of the fallen

now that will never happen

[old raft]

fury of the father

[dreamy tangle]

🔥

father of the fallen

[daring basin]

pale king

[dreamy tangle]

true

[nova relic]

Fury of the ballin, the sword turns into a ball you just start dunking on enemy's

[still osprey]

You can be a father of the flame glazer too

No one will agree but it's ok

[daring basin]

flaming the father

[rocky jolt]

Wisp Thicket

[sturdy trellis]

honestly father of the flame phase 1 is kinda sick

the movement is fun

[timid sky]

flame of the father

Feather of the flam

[crisp heron]

Father of the flame
Grandmother silk
Sister splinter
Forebrothers Signis and Gron
Uncle Groal

Im seeing a connection...

[rocky jolt]

yes thats his name

[arctic epoch]

Wanderer suckass

[strange knot]

I GOT HIT ON THE LAST WAVE

I hate you, I hate you, I hate you

[steep grotto]

OMG THAT i both LOVE and HATE it at the same time

[strange knot]

I both hate it and hate it at the same time

[steep grotto]

i love the gimmick hate the final thing

[strange knot]

It Ruined my hitless run on last FUCKING WAVE

[steep grotto]

omg :O

im so sorry

that just sucks man

[strange knot]

4th time on the last floor

[dreamy tangle]

uncle groal 🔥

[steep grotto]

just shaw all over the place

[placid lichen]

I'm in bilwater

and i now have every single bell way!!!

[strange knot]

I should do coral tower genocide and find every way to spawn kill every enemy

[crisp heron]

Im so sorry

[placid lichen]

It's okay

It's not your fault <3

I am the one who shall be tortured

[crisp heron]

huzzah

[steep grotto]

god that godforsaken place

[placid lichen]

I like your pfp but I don't like where it comes from

[steep grotto]

who thought that bilewater was a good idea

[strange knot]

I love bilewater

[steep grotto]

i get that a lot

[steep grotto]

[placid lichen]

Ermmm

Same developers that made the abyss

[copper hedge]

has anyone tried beating the Cogwork Clapper arena?

[placid lichen]

In hollow knight

[steep grotto]

not to bad

[copper hedge]

the one in act 3?

[steep grotto]

wait as in the arena in the top left or the other one?

[strange knot]

I did

It’s easy

[steep grotto]

if the other one then its not too bad

[weak depot]

It's bad only till like your first playthrough

[steep grotto]

the enemies are just ehhh

[raw pawn]

Ngl I feel like volt filament should be able to affect silkshot

[split lodge]

Oof I lost my 100% steel soul save file

I might put off the game for a while

[still osprey]

Bilewater is a really fun area if you remove Stilkin from the game

[strange knot]

That sucks

[raw pawn]

And slubberlugs

[still osprey]

Slubberlug room is the worst room in the game I am being so genuine

[copper hedge]

the one where you silk soar to

[steep grotto]

OH THAT

not too bad tbh

[copper hedge]

👍

thanks for some assurance

[steep grotto]

yw niko one shot

[raw pawn]

I fear I might die to that goddamn slubberlug room in my steel soul run

[steep grotto]

oh god

[still osprey]

It's always the last mask shard I get in Act 2

But that's partially because I usually do Bilewater last too

[raw pawn]

I hate how the path you open after you get that mask shard only covers half of the room

So you will have to deal with them on the way back

[slender juniper]

How much damage did saw circlet do before it was nerfed

[tidal glade]

It was lvl 1 tool dmg all throughout iirc

[copper hedge]

if u feel like you need to know how to do it effectively, try duplicating the save and turn it into a non-steelsoul save to act as your practice save. that way, u can practice routes and outcomes before you fumble it out in your steelsoul save

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-freeman-ligting-bolts-laser-bolts-gif-9287385439383635726

[slender juniper]

Oh did it do more?

[tidal glade]

Nope, it did not scale to tool dmg lvl coz it was not a red tool

[steep grotto]

im making sure are there any missable enemies in the beastiary in act 2 if you move on to act 3?

[copper hedge]

what is gordon freeman even doing in city 17

[slender juniper]

Shakra and garmond

[steep grotto]

ok thats what i thought

[copper hedge]

man i forgot to get shakra's entry. i wanna have her in the journal

[slender juniper]

They arent required for the memento tho

[steep grotto]

wdym? i couldnt get the achievement bc i missed them.

[rocky jolt]

gman put him there

[tidal glade]

https://youtu.be/BU64y67eRiU

Another one down

[steep grotto]

i LOVE that fight

[copper hedge]

PINTEREST FIGHT

[steep grotto]

one of the best fights in the game

made me actually implement stragegy in a good way. unlike the fucking chef in bilewater.

[rocky jolt]

-said no one

[spark anchor]

he's a city boy

[steep grotto]

wdym i love the pinstress fight

am i the only one who likes it

[arctic epoch]

i love Pintress fight

[steep grotto]

thank god

anyway time to fight a giant bat

[arctic epoch]

you should try to fight her both grounded and airbrone will be faster that way

[tidal glade]

It's not a bad fight... But I think 2nd Sentinel is much better for how similar their fighting style is minus the air stalling

[steep grotto]

oh for sure

[slender juniper]

You could

They were never required

[steep grotto]

ah oh well i alr reset my run so time to fight a giant bat thing for the first time bc i accidentally skipped it bc of the fleas :D

[true lodge]

IT ARRIVED!!

[tidal glade]

Am risking getting hit mid air if am gonna try airborne clawline XD

I just wanna get it over with XD

[arctic epoch]

i mean you can try to practice it
definitely makes the fight harder and a lot more interesting

[slender juniper]

Speedrunners legit bully that bird,hes so silkspearable

[arctic epoch]

though i don't blame you, she is one of the most anti-player bossfight after all

[slender juniper]

I did moorwing in 30 seconds once

[slender juniper]

PEAK

[tidal glade]

Me: clawlines Pinstress
Pinstress: ha! throws pins pointblank

[slender juniper]

Why does everyone bully the pinstress

[steep grotto]

LITERALLY

ALSO THIS GODDAMN BAT

[arctic epoch]

you can try to combo her up close and learn her pattern she has a very specific timing with throwing out both her attack so as longa s you're counting your time, you ain't getting hit

[slender juniper]

Silkspear it

[arctic epoch]

only time you're gonna get hit unfairly is her stagger get up animation ( screen-wide one )

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/optical-illusion-neggativity-meme-gif-8861177370121328289

[steep grotto]

im just not used to the hitboxes yet TwT

[split cape]

This girl woke me up, what do I do?

[cunning geode]

you think you're woke? 👹

[tidal glade]

Knight, do ur thing

[steep grotto]

FINALLY

[foggy fossil]

you merely adapted into the woke
i was born in it
molded by it

[steep grotto]

yay haunted bellhart

[heady iron]

So woke up...Mxr. Freethem...woke up and...smell the pronouns

[rocky jolt]

me and my caretaker

[cerulean sable]

Hornet would defo attach a forwardgrip to her needle

[coarse leaf]

hi

please tell me im close to beating bile water

[rocky jolt]

yes but theres another area just like it

[coarse leaf]

AND IT WONT get harder in act 3 right

@rocky jolt

idgaf im not doing this

[median fractal]

Uh so fun fact ||ya cant act 3 without this||

[coarse leaf]

.

wdym

[median fractal]

You need something from there to get into Act 3

[coarse leaf]

flea?

[median fractal]

Nope.

If you really want to know ||reward at the end of Bilewater||

[radiant laurel]

omg I never noticed how good Khann's OST is

[coarse leaf]

what is it

[pearl cipher]

Hello, I just beat HK tonight and beat radiance, is silksong really that much harder? I want too play it but am worried ill get really frustrated

[coarse leaf]

i meannnnnn so far its only about 0.5x harder for me

[median fractal]

The reward? ||Seeker's Soul|| I believe its called? Its a quest item

[cerulean sable]

It works both ways tho

[coarse leaf]

take me to hell please its better then bilewater

[cerulean sable]

||that means for most part theres little reason to do BW atm because its biggest reward is act 3 entrance, so you can do that area last||

[crisp heron]

about 1/3rd of the way through

[coarse leaf]

your lying.

[median fractal]

Imma be real skong difficulty is slightly overblown. Yes its harder but its not as bad as people make it out to be imo. If you beat HK you should be fine honestly. Also Silksong is a goddamn masterpiece so if you liked HK please dont skip out on Silksong because people complain 🫡

man you're evil I can tell

[coarse leaf]

man

[shadow hill]

what's the trigger for the grand hunt wish (savage beastfly)

[azure raptor]

Yes silksong is a lot easier than what people say

[median fractal]

🫡

[median fractal]

✅

[azure raptor]

Yeah I beat groal in like 5 tries I think

[untold dune]

it doesnt help that most of the difficulty discourse was on release week, and patches have since made it a bit easier (especially in platforming)

[heady iron]

Same

I was only annoyed because I didn't know about the secret bench and ran the whole route every time

[median fractal]

ok tbf I tried that boss for like 7 tries and then gave up and found a cheese for it but I ended up coming back to it on another save and beat it first try then so uhh

I am willing to call skill issue on giving up on that fight my first time but its not that bad anymore

The runback is still bad but actually is way less bad when you know about the silk storage room

[median fractal]

We've all been there 😭

after like 2 attempts I started running around because I told myself no way TC would make such a terrible runback

[lavish snow]

The only insufferable part of bile water is the guys that jump out at random

[heady iron]

I'm a stubborn bitch that repeats the same thing over and over until I get it right

e.g. doing the forum with 6 masks, no wings, and 1 needle upgrade

[odd marsh]

FIRST SINNER IS SO PEAK

11 DEATHS BUT I DONT EVEN CAREEEEEEE

[median fractal]

TRUE!

[odd marsh]

slab is the last area where i had to go and found her there, she is such a cool boss fight

i die easily but lock in state is so fun

[keen cloud]

https://klipy.com/gifs/riddler-paul-dano-1

[odd marsh]

mhm but have u explored ||putrified ducts yet||

[coarse leaf]

no

[odd marsh]

it was worse enemies than bile water just saying

even i did bilewater withought knowing abt the ducts, had to go all the way around to reach them

[delicate holly]

I am TIRED of the ant HAG it’s been a month since I get on the game try to kill her fail and get off im tired tired tired tired omg

[midnight jasper]

I got the Faydown Cloak

[crisp heron]

I hate this guy

[midnight jasper]

The path to that was fairly difficult I'd say

[crisp heron]

the riddler not plutio

[odd marsh]

i love mount fay

[keen cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ultrakill-gif-1116432568720806435

Oh got it

[odd marsh]

as a 112% hk player and path of pain enjoyrer, mount fay i did first try and it was so satisfying

[thorn merlin]

"room full of dudes" boss fight remains undefeated. I dont know how to deal with these ||crow guys||

[odd marsh]

yep, hated them too, use dash attacks to dodge over the guy with the needle and then kill him first, then focus on the primal aspic ass crow

[nova relic]

The ones that throw those tiny needles

?

[thorn merlin]

The ones that throw the 3 kunai and have 1 million hp

[nova relic]

I just parry the kunai

Icl but the parry mechanic is too strong

[sturdy solstice]

was beast crest super jump patched ?

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kids-gif-25104149

[midnight jasper]

Same