sk-discussion

[burnt pagoda]

its good when you get used to it because Look At These Fucking Iframes

[thorn axle]

Maybe but late game the bosses move so fast you barely get time to get a hit

[lucid forum]

Yeah that's the best part of it genuinely, horizontal platforming is goated with it

[burnt pagoda]

i really like it personally even if its difficult to use

[leaden oxide]

We’ll see but I beat karmelita fine.

[burnt pagoda]

because it keeps you engaged

[slender zealot]

For the last time stop crest wars

[thorn axle]

I feel like the game would be so much easier with that health bar mod

[barren rose]

reaper's extra range is mostly placebo

[finite swift]

I am forge daughter ballow mines i craft we are minecra

[slender zealot]

I think y all het bored by it

[barren rose]

it's only SLIGHTLY longer than a basic hunter side slash

[thorn axle]

It took me way too long

[leaden oxide]

although if team cherry buffed it I would not complain

[barren rose]

Reaper SHOULD be buffed

[leaden oxide]

But I always feel terrible because everyone constantly shits on it.

[thorn axle]

She kept turning into a sawblade and shredding me to pieces

[lucid forum]

honestly at first I thought reaper dealt slight extra damage to compensate the slow swing

[light swan]

i dont look at it while playing lol

[leaden oxide]

All they gotta do is just make more silks.

[light swan]

reaper wins in cool factor

[finite swift]

Karmelita now uses sawtooth circulet

[burnt pagoda]

i need reaper crest tipper mod pls

[thorn axle]

I mean honestly if you enjoy using it then do that

[lucid forum]

Reaper works for a more defensive playstyle I think they should go that route if they're buffing it

[leaden oxide]

Make it so when I hit the boss with my reaper crest the boss shits out 9 silk orbs.

[barren rose]

reaper is fine to use in a vaccuum it gets the job done

but in a competition of all 7 crests it wins pretty much nothing

[finite swift]

Reaper crest users make me so mad like why are you AVOIDING the pasive ability✌

[thorn axle]

Also it depends how good you are at that specific crest, if you are good at reaper then it's going to be better for you than any other one

[burnt pagoda]

id say the one thing it wins at is comfort

[leaden oxide]

I think I’m just really good at spacing at the exact distance reaper is at.

[burnt pagoda]

huge and active hitboxes especially with the pogo

makes platforming in this game a joke

[leaden oxide]

Tell me about it

Cogwork core first try 👍

[lucid forum]

hard thing is that with how fast paced the game is you can't focus on the boss while also trying to get 1/3 to replenish your silk

[thorn axle]

Reaper and beast I think I just suck at them because the moment I heal I get hit by the most random thing and get no value

[lucid forum]

wish it was 1/2 instead..m

[leaden oxide]

Ain’t an issue with me pal.

[light swan]

lol i thought i died in the middle of this but then realized i got saved by dice

[lucid forum]

it really isn't I beat like the entire game with Reaper

[barren rose]

that's a very subjective thing that really doesn't mean much, it's got a really bad nail art, bad upslash, dash attack is mid; it doesn't really offer any sort of cushion that can't be found elsewhere

[burnt pagoda]

me when im in a goated competition and my opponent is dice

[lucid forum]

but I wish it could give more silk to make the passive ability a little better

[finite swift]

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT GLOW EFFECT

[thorn axle]

nah bro the dead bugs purse is the best yellow tool it's not even close

[barren rose]

if you like it, you like it, but being comfortable with it pretty much requires to stick with it to GET comfy, something true of any crest

[cerulean sable]

some people just find the range comfy

[thorn axle]

saved me in many fights 👍

[burnt pagoda]

the only crests really comparable in range to reaper are architect and witch which both have quirks that people might not like

[lucid forum]

Compass >>>>

[graceful oyster]

I misremembered Reaper's upslash as a small version of the one it does when you do a needle strike and I thought it was pretty cool and then I remembered it's actually not that, and instead it's ass

[burnt pagoda]

TRUE

[crude geyser]

The last judge is defeated

[scarlet karma]

W

[burnt pagoda]

reaper upslash is kind of ass tho i agree

[crude geyser]

That was the hardest boss so far

[scarlet karma]

ehh not really

[thorn axle]

you should stand next to it while it dies to emote on the body

[scarlet karma]

u can combo w/ it

[leaden oxide]

Goated for flea bounce.

[barren rose]

again, reaper side slash LOOKS like it's very long range, but it actually is only just barely. Upslash DOES have a lot more range than usual, but it's also not uh, great

[light swan]

what glow, claw mirrors?

[crude geyser]

[leaden oxide]

If it doesn’t make silk orbs from silk skills when it is glowing it should.

[hallow rover]

shaman…?

[finite swift]

When you got hit, yellow glow, is it mod or a actual effect?

[lucid forum]

honestly the upslash threw me off so hard when I played it's really weird

[leaden oxide]

Make me make 15 orbs with one silk ability. 👍

[burnt pagoda]

shaman isnt real it cant hurt me

[thorn axle]

Maybe I should use reaper because I never have enough silk for silk skills

[light swan]

warding bell

[silver oak]

ttacco hey ttacco

I found this in my files

[burnt pagoda]

well shaman also has a quirky bind so what i said still applies i think

[tight viper]

Shaman is serperior

[scarlet karma]

slowest dps

[lucid forum]

I should play with shaman, though i have to unlock one slot and I dunno where the hell the last memory locket is

[hallow rover]

Wish shaman produced double silk in exchange for nerfed nail damage or something

[leaden oxide]

Honestly if anything I think they should just rework it

[barren rose]

again reaper fans are fine to be so because it's not like the crest is LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE, it functions and you can beat anything in the game fine with it, but when we start comparing and looking at pros and cons reaper just doesn't really have anything over anyone else

[hallow rover]

Raw, but accounting for skills every 4 hits no

[tight viper]

you're not familiar with shaman tech, are ya?

[leaden oxide]

Because like shaman’s is the silk abilities and beast gives healing so idk.

[scarlet karma]

raw mb

[silver oak]

yeah im missing two memory lockets in my main save

can't be bothered to figure out which ones

[cerulean sable]

YHOU KNOW WHAT

MY FRIEND WHO I SHOWED THIS IMAGE 2+ YEARS AGO

OUT OF THE BLUE JUST 2 WEEKS AGO DURING OUR TYPICAL VOICE CHAT SHENANIGANS
AND WE WERE RIBBING EACH OTHER
HE SAID "I just do it like that one drawing of you trying to poke someone with a spear"

[hallow rover]

and who ever uses shaman for the raw dmg

[tight viper]

just dash between your attacks

dash cancel too

[silver oak]

🔥

the influence

[cerulean sable]

AND I COULDNT FIND THIS IMAGE

SO I GAVE UP

[tight viper]

the silk skills are boring

[scarlet karma]

I never said it’s bad bro, we all know u like shaman

[hallow rover]

(I’m a hunter main)

[leaden oxide]

Reaper should have been a crest with no silk ability but its basic attacks are better or something but idk.

[scarlet karma]

same bro so peak

[burnt pagoda]

imagine maining a crest

[silver oak]

nah it would be too gimmicky

[crude geyser]

Okay so it took me roughly 17 hours to get to act 2

[stable pilot]

Good night people

[leaden oxide]

Tryna come up with something to make it stand out is kinda hard.

[stable pilot]

Drink water and sleep well

[leaden oxide]

At least compared to the other crests.

[burnt pagoda]

reaper tipper...........

[scarlet karma]

all crests are good for all bosses

[thin charm]

it does have nerfed nail damage already and has buffed spell damage

[hallow rover]

Reaper is just survivability

[silver oak]

I don't think they should have more than one crest that has +/-1 silk skill either way

[hallow rover]

Wish effect didn’t stop if you got hit but yea

[leaden oxide]

Would be insane if it had tipper damage

[scarlet karma]

reaper js parkour

[hallow rover]

what…?

[steep jolt]

do NOT insult my boy shaman...

[barren rose]

shaman has nerfed nail damage? I'm pretty sure that's not true

[hallow rover]

you mean hit speed

[leaden oxide]

Wish it was if you got his twice you lost it, it would be much better.

[tight viper]

shame we already do

[midnight vigil]

I love silksong but who is hornet?

[hallow rover]

nerfed dps not nail damage if that’s what you meant

[burnt pagoda]

it has worse nail dps but it doesnt deal less damage

[thin charm]

hm seems i was misremembering

[hallow rover]

Unimportant side character

[steep jolt]

shes like this character you see every once in a while

[fiery rune]

I feel they should have added damage values to the weapons, silk skills and tools. As it is now all these feel equal in a sense.

[silver oak]

we have one with more than one, and one with less than one

[barren rose]

the only crest with lower than base damage is architect, and it makes up for it with multihits that end up being very slightly more than base

[scarlet karma]

idk some random hk enemy

[burnt pagoda]

probably thinking of grubberflys elegy

[silver oak]

aka what I said

[thin charm]

maybe yeah

[hallow rover]

Architect charged pogo is very satisfying

[light swan]

keep in mind the pogo naturally deals 2x damage

[midnight vigil]

I love using the larpers crest

[tight viper]

that slash implies an either or

[scarlet karma]

what’s the multiplier for ge btw

[silver oak]

.....exactly

[hallow rover]

I think 0.5

[barren rose]

half

[steep jolt]

the best crest is wanderers (not funnest or anything like that but objective best)

[barren rose]

rounded down I think

[hallow rover]

All depends on the player

[scarlet karma]

Alr

[burnt pagoda]

it should be 50% of ur nail

[barren rose]

so 21 pure nail has 10 damage beams

[thin charm]

wdym objective

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-silksong-skong-gif-9056276688868888316

[lapis sleet]

Fellas can you give me stuff I probably haven't done yet,I've beat every boss except for plasmified zango and I ain't trying to beat him yet I keep dying

[tight viper]

oh wait

[steep jolt]

*objectively

[light swan]

reminder that every crest can do this

[thin charm]

yeah but how is it objectively the best

[burnt pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-reaper-crest-the-mist-greymoor-gif-13464358243469655364

[hallow rover]

All crests have super high damage potential so it doesn’t really matter what you use

[graceful oyster]

I don't know if you guys know what a rock hammer looks like but dang these things would hurt if I hit somebody with one

[hallow rover]

Ts is just average crest banter

[thin charm]

hunter's crest 2nd focus is more dps if you are really good at the game

[scarlet karma]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-skong-silk-song-silksong-gif-4842792387470849374

[steep jolt]

its legit knight with quickslash

[hallow rover]

I think it would hurt without the hammer part

[thin charm]

that doesn't make it objectively the best though

[burnt pagoda]

reaper claw mirrors would go kinda hard actually i should try that out

[thin charm]

that makes it objectively the fastest

[barren rose]

wanderer probably isn't the best but it's certainly up there

[light swan]

it does yea

[steep jolt]

i hate the "average ____ crest" videos because they show some of the best gameplay and act like anyone can do it

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-skong-sk-gif-9152098084645823068

[burnt pagoda]

i thought the general consensus was that hunter/wanderer/architect were top 3 (no particular order)

[steep jolt]

its the best for most people

[hallow rover]

I genuinely thought you meant a rock attached to a stick I am sorry

[barren rose]

I like hunter most myself, because I'm a basic stock bitch

[cobalt pilot]

Hey

[light swan]

hunter shaman beast architect i thought

https://tenor.com/view/ss-skong-silk-song-silksong-gif-4842792387470849374

[cobalt pilot]

Does anyone know what those runes in hallownest's crown are

[steep jolt]

who the fuck is saying architect bro 😭😭

[burnt pagoda]

shaman is so funny

[cobalt pilot]

Like what they're called in the files

[light swan]

best gameplay

presses one button

[pliant musk]

Hello everyone

[thin charm]

i thought it was hunter shaman beast architect witch wanderer are the ones which were the general consensus for the best

[hallow rover]

hunter has fast pogo + the I frames

[brave geyser]

Isn't sealed siblings the neutral ending for silksong

[light swan]

lots of things have fast pogos and iframes

[steep jolt]

sealed siblings isnt canon

[tight viper]

that's why you gotta fly

[molten summit]

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[barren rose]

hunter has a lot goin for it, really. dash attack and nail art on it rules

[tight viper]

hello

[hallow rover]

it can also reposition you though

[thin charm]

hunter needle strike gives 2 silk instead of one so

[steep jolt]

hunters crest is really good for a starting crest, i still use it a lot because its fun

[brave geyser]

Hear me out
hornet doesn't get sent to pharloom
Pharloom stays the way it is and ig gms keeps trying for another child

[hallow rover]

which helps sometimes

[brave geyser]

i know

[steep jolt]

do you know like any of the lore

[thin charm]

also hunter's crest still has that bug where it randomly gives silk from pogoing background objects that don't otherwise give silk

[molten summit]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[thin charm]

probably not for long though

[tight viper]

good how are you

[burnt pagoda]

witch and beast 🩷

[steep jolt]

anyone know why my discord is running on 2 fps

[molten summit]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[brave geyser]

Why would i need to know about silksong lore if hornet never goes to pharloom

[burnt pagoda]

i love offensive binds!!!!!!!!!

[light swan]

lots of things can reposition you

[tight viper]

parasite virus

[hallow rover]

well so does walking bro that’s not my point I’m just bad at explaining

[light swan]

yea so does beast pogo and architect pogo and even witch pogo and shaman pogo and reaper pogo can move you

[thin charm]

the reposition is good

[hallow rover]

that’s not even close to what I meant

[brave geyser]

Oh crest discussion

ew

[tight viper]

shaman pogo is so good for repositioning

unrivaled

[thin charm]

team cherry designed the crest system well i think, if they didn't we wouldn't have these sorts of arguments

shaman pogo is unrivalled for flea bounce

[barren rose]

crests are pretty well balanced

[thin charm]

and shaman is pretty good for juggle as well

[barren dew]

hi

[burnt pagoda]

i love crest discussion!!!!! i love discussion of different playstyles for different players!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tight viper]

hola

[barren dew]

What are we talking about

[leaden oxide]

As long as it ain’t toxic 👍

[barren rose]

only one I think should change is reaper cause it lags behind.

[tight viper]

groal

[barren dew]

Hi frito

[cobalt pilot]

Hi chat

[steep jolt]

i love how everyone agrees that crests are in the game

[barren dew]

Fascinating

[tight viper]

hi

[barren dew]

ROSE

[light swan]

?????

[leaden oxide]

As a reaper crest user I love it but if it became god-like I would rejoice.

[cobalt pilot]

Moth tribe inhabited crystal peak and the area below. I am correct

[brave geyser]

hi bon

[barren dew]

Hi li

[barren rose]

it should become godlike like the rest of em

[light swan]

actual ragebait istg

[final furnace]

hi chat i swear bro if i see crest discussion when it loads

[thin charm]

fun fact: the name "groal" was changed in translations of the game in only 1 language

[brave geyser]

It is

[barren dew]

You needed an excuse to use this 🙄

[final furnace]

no shit bro it obviously is crest discussion

[cobalt pilot]

SAID WHO

[steep jolt]

i love how we all agree the best crest is ||shit crest||

[thin charm]

italian

[barren dew]

SAID ME

[barren rose]

I can glaze recent modded bosses again if that helps

[final furnace]

facts

[thin charm]

the best crest is ||whatever works best for you||

[cursive torrent]

yo does anyone have any new metroidvanias i can indulge in to satiate my lack of skong

[steep jolt]

this is wrong shit crest is better

[leaden oxide]

Outclassed unfortunately

[tight viper]

mio

[burnt pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-sk-skong-silksong-gif-10584794009593226309

[barren dew]

[thin charm]

e.g. i don't use red tools so i don't use architect

[cursive torrent]

i've heard lots of good about mio

[final furnace]

and i love its bind ability its called ||poopen sharten farten||

[tight viper]

wait that's a blacephalon, that's cool

[thin charm]

i don't use silk skills so i don't use shaman

[cursive torrent]

yeah :3

[steep jolt]

i modded sea of sorrow but it was so much fun that i decided to make it its own game

[light swan]

its probably the best metroidvania of all time

[tight viper]

blacephalon is awesome

[light swan]

no contestants

[cursive torrent]

really?

[burnt pagoda]

touhou luna nights

a short one but its a fun time

[steep jolt]

i love how you get it from binding to ass jim while he is showing his ass at you

[cursive torrent]

that's a vania???

[final furnace]

i want to have a balanced and safe experience so i use reaper even tho people say it has low dps and it sucks :3

[tight viper]

erm, Putt Putt Saves The Zoo is way better

[burnt pagoda]

luna nights specifically yeah

[barren rose]

luna nights kicks ass until it ends too early

[thin charm]

wanderer's damage is potentially increased by up to 3x if you're just lucky

[burnt pagoda]

i wish it was longer but its good for what it is

[barren rose]

I feel like it wraps up and fucks off just as it starts to really hit its stride

[light swan]

yea, at least in my opinion and a bunch of other peoples opinions

take a look at this guys metroidvania tierlist its funny hes like a super big youtuber i think (?)

[barren dew]

I really like zote

[near mirage]

best crest is protein crest

[thin charm]

castlevania, originator of the genre's name: b tier

[steep jolt]

i eat it ed

[barren rose]

La Mulana (and its sequel) are good metroidvanias if you adore riddles and puzzles and occassionally getting so stuck and lost you need to look up help (or stubbornly push through to try and do it without any for the pride I guess)

[steep jolt]

how much money does bro have to buy that many games

[final furnace]

you summon a giant chicken drumstick to hit anything in your direction on bind

[cursive torrent]

why is this all indies and then sotn is just in there

[light swan]

well hes a popular youtuber

[thin charm]

tax write offs 🤯

[light swan]

all metroidvanias i think

[cursive torrent]

yeah but like

[near mirage]

[cursive torrent]

what is sotn doing in there

[light swan]

isnt that a metoirdvania

[cursive torrent]

no shit it's gonna do really good compared to everything else

yes

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-how-godzilla-pregnant-bro-gif-11224742080075974126

[near mirage]

wheres ultrakill

[cursive torrent]

ultrakill is an unfinished video game

[steep jolt]

this gif inspires me to be a better person every single day

[cursive torrent]

literally and figuratively

[steep jolt]

my favorite metroidvania is minecraft guys

[cursive torrent]

true!

[burnt pagoda]

do people generally prefer hk1 over sk?

[cursive torrent]

some do yeah

[burnt pagoda]

ive seen a lot of different opinions floating around

[cursive torrent]

idgi

[spark anchor]

No cave story this list sucks

[steep jolt]

no

[opaque sigil]

they're good at different things

[steep jolt]

the best out of hollow knights are zotebotes

[near mirage]

[cursive torrent]

hk has a better story but skong has better gameplay

[burnt pagoda]

yeah i know im just curious about what most people think

[barren rose]

HK1 is a better "metroidvania" in the sense that you have more ways to explore and more options to get to point B.

[light swan]

another cool fight, im getting better at using pimpillo

[cursive torrent]

you WILL get muted for spamming eventually

[near mirage]

sorry my cat spammed emojis then started smoking cigarettes

[final furnace]

is bro tweaking?

[light swan]

less silkshot more pimpillo :(

[barren rose]

silksong has better combat but most of its runtime is spent traveling mostly linear levels

[spark anchor]

I like hollow knight for its dark and gritty environment and atmosphere

[cursive torrent]

that's what super metroid is so no wonder why i like it better

[near mirage]

Heh..hollow knight is just a look into my dark and twisted mind…heh..

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/emobob-sponegbob-emo-black-gif-15432960

[final furnace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1474939403179921603/temp_FetusSaid.gif the bird genuinely feels like this

[burnt pagoda]

honestly silksong just does everything i liked about hk1 better and adds even more combat variety on top of that so im not surprised i prefer it over hk1

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[burnt pagoda]

it does have a few stinker stuff though like the fetch quests on replays

but i dont really mind because the combat is sooooo fun

[light swan]

pimipllo is helping a lot

[steep jolt]

what is beef with fetch quests i personally love spending 30 minutes killing muckroaches

[rancid hatch]

what tools do I use for the architect crest

[light swan]

i like running this cuz im special

[cursive torrent]

cogflies are mandatory, but everything else is up to you

[burnt pagoda]

its not that bad if you get the fetch quests early and progress through the game normally

[light swan]

in the mind

[burnt pagoda]

but sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[final furnace]

so many variations you can have of your moveset, based on tools and crests in silksong

[light swan]

this is the most fun setup for me

[barren rose]

only fetch quest that turbo sucks is silver bells

[final furnace]

idk i did that lol

[burnt pagoda]

TRUTH NUKE

[opaque sigil]

that's exceptionally bad yes

but they're all just lame

[final furnace]

yeah cuz the rite of the pollip quest is actually kinda fire

[leaden delta]

This is true

[steep jolt]

its legit gambling

[final furnace]

but silver bells is pure rng

[cursive torrent]

i'm tired boss there's no video games to play

[barren rose]

all the other ones that COULD suck have easy solutions, like people bitch about craw coats but they just farm the same small one 35 times instead of slapping a couple big ones for 4-5 pelts per

[cursive torrent]

i guess i could do minecraft and grind to find a good starting seed

[final furnace]

idk make a videogame and then play that /j

[light swan]

mio

[barren rose]

if you wait to do craw arena til you have the quest, you get all 35 pelts right then and there in that single room

[final furnace]

how many moneys it cost

[burnt pagoda]

i was giggling like a little girl finding the crest system for the first time because i love LOVE experimenting with different movesets

[cursive torrent]

i also kinda got spoiled on most of the game by watching half of skurry's playthrough so that's why i'm skeptical

[leaden delta]

Rabbit hole
Pleaaaaase

[burnt pagoda]

i love it when a 2d game lets you change your playstyle...........!

[cursive torrent]

what is it

[steep jolt]

will keep you guys posted on my chess game

[burnt pagoda]

holy peak

[cursive torrent]

bro you already lost lmao?

unless you know how to save it

[light swan]

aw :(

[light swan]

$20

[final furnace]

i grinded hollow knight until i beat the radiance and nkg, and then played silksong, i hated the diagonal pogo but then i see reaper and i mained it the entire run, boss i died to most times is widow

[graceful oyster]

$18 if you own Dead Cells or Constance on Steam

[final furnace]

how does that work

[arctic epoch]

Mate in 27, why did you do such a bad move?

[graceful oyster]

They're bundled

[cursive torrent]

no but literally, that's a noob start

[steep jolt]

what are you on about

[cursive torrent]

black can win in 2 if he didn't save it

[steep jolt]

what are you on about bro

have you guys ever even played chess

[burnt pagoda]

the horse move diagonal

[final furnace]

idk i move the queen pawn and then the king pawn

[tight viper]

I'm Magnus Carlsen

[arctic epoch]

I sacrifice my rook

[cursive torrent]

d7 pawn to d5
if another piece doesn't block king afterwards
c8 bishop to g4 ggs

[final furnace]

and then he sacrificed, DA ROOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[cursive torrent]

for black

[steep jolt]

im gonna slime this guy out

[final furnace]

bro skipped to mid game lmao

[cursive torrent]

bro you're speedrunning

also you're throwing you didn't castle

[steep jolt]

he did some weird ass moves so we skipped 90% of early game

[final furnace]

they did right castle wdym

[steep jolt]

what are you talking about i did

[final furnace]

lol

[cursive torrent]

wait he did lmao i'm stupid

[final furnace]

now castle the left bishop without moving the pawns bro (impossible move)

[light swan]

im face tanking too much as barbed architect ngl

[burnt pagoda]

but the c8 bishop isnt on a black tile huh

[light swan]

i think pimipillo is one of the funnest red tools oat

[cerulean sable]

Godhome wishlist

Second Second Sentinel (or 2^2 Sentinel)
Grandest Mother Silk
Grindle's Crash Crew
Grand Golden Choral Clapper and Grand Golden Coral Reed duo fight
Plasmified Mort
Sherma The Beast
Lace 4
an actual real Garmond fight

[hallow rover]

practice curvesickle rebound to get the most useless skill ever

[steep jolt]

is this a fire position

[final furnace]

yes bro g5 knight to e6 is a fork

[balmy talon]

https://tenor.com/view/skelet-bang-shield-meme-skelet-meme-skeleton-skelet-shield-gif-17603597483393080676

[final furnace]

win 2 point or win 6 point depending if opponent stupid or not

[burnt pagoda]

how do you people play chess im too stupid

[final furnace]

idk just play whatever move you think of first

[steep jolt]

wait change in plans

[bitter briar]

W chess

[burnt pagoda]

idk any of the strategies or terminology i just ball out

[final furnace]

i got so cooked cuz i didnt know of en croissant

en passant*

[steep jolt]

wait i might be able to do something soon

[burnt pagoda]

i still dont know what castling is off the top of my head

[light swan]

make sure to do the fibonnacci defense if you get cornered by a rendezvous

[final furnace]

the fuck does all that mean

[woven spade]

Not a word of silksong mentioned in sight 😭

[bitter briar]

Chess

Chess is totally related to silksong

[zinc wharf]

Apparently the Courier’s Rasher instantly gets destroyed if you beat GMS while holding it.

[final furnace]

its either this or crest discussion slop

[steep jolt]

is this a mate in 1

[burnt pagoda]

chess........ chess has a knight.............. from Hollow Knight

[unkempt steeple]

Currently doing my first good steel soul run and planning my playthough very carefully.... gonna get wanderer tomorrow right after I got drifter's bc I'm not risking anything (probably gonna skip sister splinter bc she allways kills me atleast once on replays)

[final furnace]

queen h7 ye

[steep jolt]

do you guys wanna watch me play chess or argue about crests

[woven spade]

Team Cherry made chess confirmed???

[bitter briar]

Chess

[final furnace]

cheese

[steep jolt]

exactly

new game

[thin charm]

what if we watch you play crests and argue about chess

[tight viper]

I hate bishops they are dumb

[final furnace]

wait would it be cool if we were in VC Hollow Knight 4 but we all muted so u screenshare

[unkempt steeple]

I keep dying early game in stupid ways

[final furnace]

the cheese

[thin charm]

bishops are objectively the best checks-per-position if you're skilled enough

[light swan]

im the worst world pl;ayer in silksong

[unkempt steeple]

Atleast I'm learning the game well for speedrun thought

[tight viper]

dumb design stupid piece

[thin charm]

it was well designed otherwise it wouldn't be in the game

[final furnace]

no

[minor sparrow]

Wait, is this me?

[burnt pagoda]

im play Hollow Knight: Silksong!

[thin charm]

what's that

[tight viper]

kill Bishop

[bitter briar]

Jackenstein

[thin charm]

i only know of SilkKong

[burnt pagoda]

Horne t

[thin charm]

objective of cult of the lamb be like

[steep jolt]

is bro cooked

[unkempt steeple]

Is that a new battle pass unreal engine fps?

[final furnace]

why bro switched

[bitter briar]

Peak mentioned

I’m too broke to afford woolhaven

[thin charm]

woolhaven peak

[bitter briar]

Massive monster please give me woolhaven

[meager jolt]

Cult of the Lamb mention

[thin charm]

||it even has a hk reference||

[burnt pagoda]

Yes!

[bitter briar]

I have all upgrades and everything

[steep jolt]

i won the other game

[final furnace]

o ok

[bitter briar]

I even beat all bosses hitless

I need woolhaven

I’m such a sweat I got all my 24 followers immortal rings

[light swan]

YOOO THIS VID WAS SO GOOD

[final furnace]

Lamp mention

[zinc wharf]

In Silksong?

[woven spade]

Silksong Sea of Sorrow will introduce a battle pass, battle royale, subscription based services, with all new skins you can buy for a premium currency and force permanent online only play!

[light swan]

thats enough silksong for this week

[unkempt steeple]

Clutched a near death with save scumming sorry to admit...

[bitter briar]

No in cult of the lamb

[zinc wharf]

Ah, okay

[thin charm]

i can't believe team cherry made Sea of Sorrow 20 dollars. all for some cosmetic packs

[light swan]

i mean i played badly but some parts i played really well

[steep jolt]

on my streak fr

[meager jolt]

Everyone does it bro, don't sweat it

[woven spade]

Cosmetic pack* you get the other packs via a separate purchase

[thin charm]

so scummy

[zinc wharf]

I just beat GMS while carrying the Courier’s Rasher. It was difficult, but not the worst.

[unkempt steeple]

Yeah ik I sabe scummed for liquid laque in my first playthrough lol (can do it normally now though(

[unkempt steeple]

Why

[final furnace]

bro is parrying with warding bell bind

[meager jolt]

Peak I wanna do that now

[zinc wharf]

I wanted to see if it was possible.

[lavish spruce]

This is a silkpost

[thin charm]

silkmessage

[minor sparrow]

The most obvious silk post of 2026, yeah

[light swan]

WAIT I ONLY GOT HIT ONCEEEEE

[final furnace]

did you win with the courier's rasher?

[zinc wharf]

It is, but the game instantly destroys the Rasher so you can’t get a screenshot of the Rasher combined with the Weaver Queen UI.

[steep jolt]

fr they also locked act 3 behind a paywall

[zinc wharf]

Yeah

[woven spade]

And 4 and 5

[meager jolt]

Aw :(

[final furnace]

this is why ign gave silksong a 9/10 rating instead of a 10/10 /j

[light swan]

BECAUSE THIS SHIT DECIDED NOT TO PARRY OH MY GOD

[unkempt steeple]

I've never done the phantom act 2 enterance before, is it safe to do for a first time in steel soul?

[minor sparrow]

All of the dlcs have their own acts and they're each 5 dollars

[meager jolt]

Nothing is safe in Steel Soul

[woven spade]

They couldn’t afford to give it the extra 1. Team Cherry charged em for that last one

[steep jolt]

bro you mean 25

[lavish spruce]

Probably of all time, TC unexpectedly giving a dlc a price is less likely than someone liking thk ending in the first game

[unkempt steeple]

Yeah ik.... died bc I ran under a falling explosive I set off

[minor sparrow]

Nothing about the cosmetic part?

[torpid schooner]

Im about to do chef Lugoli voided, any tips?

[bitter briar]

Ass Jim

[zinc wharf]

The Switch can only record in 30s intervals, so I didn’t show the whole fight, but you can see the Rasher go poof right when I beat her.

[lavish spruce]

Team Cherry is the only game developer group that has a negative sense of greed

[meager jolt]

It okay, Steel Soul is hard, try, try again (I actually like it better than regular Silksong ngl)

[woven spade]

Additionally, they have vaulted Hollow Knight and will be rereleasing it exclusively on the brand New Nintendo Switch 3

[lavish spruce]

No because just mentioning team cherry and something they made costing extra money is just blasphemy

[steep jolt]

3 wins in like 20 min

[minor sparrow]

If you're gonna do it the first time, don't do it in steel soul

[woven spade]

Let the dude live a little

[final furnace]

it go kabum

[lavish spruce]

Why don't they make their bishop and queen kill each other so king can castle

[meager jolt]

Fellow Switch player!!

[minor sparrow]

No, he will be living under a rock until he's 40

[zinc wharf]

Also this was the first time I beat GMS hitless, surprisingly enough.

[steep jolt]

put on silkspeed amulets ||and run away from the arena||

[meager jolt]

Wowzers, but makes sense because Rasher

[steep jolt]

i dont think you play chess

[final furnace]

bro how is that a loss just move King to f6 /j

[woven spade]

Welp you heard the fella, under a rock you go

[lavish spruce]

Its actually easier than non voided iirc, cause the bile effect goes away from her muckballs

[scarlet karma]

how to enter here

[steep jolt]

no it doesnt

[final furnace]

lever on the other side

[minor sparrow]

The other side

[lavish spruce]

I make my pieces kill eachother all the time I don't get it

[steep jolt]

i think thats called genocide

[meager jolt]

What other side? How to enter the other side?

[scarlet karma]

from where bro

[mental arch]

ive eaten 12 slim jims today

[final furnace]

oh that door idk use noclip lmao

[woven spade]

Weak, large flea ate 120

[lavish spruce]

Make that 24

[scarlet karma]

bro

[minor sparrow]

Oh wait what the fuck lmao

[lavish spruce]

Then square that

[steep jolt]

i ate 12 fat matts

[mental arch]

i will eat 121

[minor sparrow]

Is that door before karm?

[final furnace]

jk i just dont rember lol

[meager jolt]

Next to her, yeah

[woven spade]

Someone stop this person immediately

[final furnace]

to the right of karm

[light swan]

some awesome clips for you guys

[steep jolt]

i can do absolute radiance without taking any damage with invincibility mod

[minor sparrow]

I genuinely don't remember. I thought that was the door in hunters march with the gauntlet in front of it

[final furnace]

is you are lag or i lag

[woven spade]

Absolute gamer

[meager jolt]

More

[light swan]

and here’s an almost karmelita hitless for you guys

[woven spade]

I can’t wait to play as bell beast in hollowknight 3

[steep jolt]

ay karamba

cant wait to play as coral_39 in hollowknight3

[minor sparrow]

I didn't even notice the silkshot so I was surprised when you just whipped out a gun

[void moat]

isnt that the squirrm room

[undone cedar]

no

[final furnace]

fungus1_01b why is the room Fungus1_01b its own emoji in the modded server

amogus type shi

[steep jolt]

what are you talking about thats the watcher at the edge

[undone cedar]

why ask such a ridiculous question

[minor sparrow]

The fungus amongus

[void moat]

oh

[torpid schooner]

I have that one sinners road song stuck in my head 😭

[void moat]

playing as a karaka or slabfly would be the best for hollow knight 3 if we ever get one lowkey

[steep jolt]

i would like to play as weavenest karm

[woven spade]

What if you play as Pilby who revived from the dead and trained in the hyperbolic time chamber for 1,000 years

[meager jolt]

Banging pfp btw

[torpid schooner]

Ty :D

[steep jolt]

is my pfp good

[meager jolt]

Ya

[steep jolt]

guys grrimm died and turned into lace

thats why savage beastfly is there

[light swan]

i cant fucking believe i missed that parry

im never playing silksong again

[steep jolt]

sounds good to me

im on the brink of coughing blood i think i should skip school tomorrow

[burnt pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-beastfly-gif-1643588580854591308

[meager jolt]

Or! Change Crests

[unkempt steeple]

Silk skills and tools are so much better than hk spells

[light swan]

now why would i do that

the whole point of this is that i wanna try playing architect more

[meager jolt]

Ahhhh

[opaque sigil]

good hop on prince of persia the lost crown

[storm wave]

u think?

[burnt pagoda]

i miss abyss shriek

[light swan]

as SOON as mio godhome happens im NEVER PLAYing SILKSONG EVER

like what the fuck do you MEAN why am i like this

i did everything right except for upslash

[steep jolt]

i have perfecct attendence tho

[unkempt steeple]

I only ever used it to spam agaisnt grimm and radience

[light swan]

it would be fine if it was a mid video but nah i had to pull off the craziest clutches oat

[meager jolt]

Then you'll want to back up a lil or up slash, the slash is very horizontal

[storm wave]

this changes things tremendously

[unkempt steeple]

Also cross stitch is just insane I'm aching to get it in my steel soul run

[light swan]

yea i know what i needed to do im just mad at myself for not doing it

[meager jolt]

You're not perfect, it's okay

[steep jolt]

is this sarcasm

[light swan]

ive done karmelita hitless 12+ times, this instance is cuz its on architect and i played reaallyy well

[storm wave]

no bro u gotta keep up the streak

[burnt pagoda]

i used it for a lot of bosses for quick kills but ya those two are the main ones

[meager jolt]

Slow and steady is best with Steel Soul, take your time upgrading, don't rush into things

[steep jolt]

nah i think ill treat myself

[burnt pagoda]

silksong combat GRAHHHHHHHHHH

i love silksong combat!

[storm wave]

well tbf if u call in saying ur coughing up blood they wont exactly say come in now will they

[storm wave]

word! speak yo shit!

[unkempt steeple]

Yep doing that, allways have an interactive map on to know exacly what to get next

[steep jolt]

borderline

[woven spade]

I gotta ask, did you all have trouble or at least die a few times to Lace 2 then proceed to 1st try GM silk

[light swan]

i got two warding bell parries, lots of archipogos, and i finished the fight with a silkshot into warding bell kill but i fucked it up by doing the most basic parry wrong

[trim estuary]

yeah

[unkempt steeple]

I can't wait to get multibinder and injector band to feel safe

[burnt pagoda]

yeah i think thats a pretty common experience

[storm wave]

bro yes, lace 2 was significantly harder lmao

[meager jolt]

I love that combo so much

[spring carbon]

I had a nit of trouble on lace 2, then absolutely OBLITERATED GMS

[meager jolt]

Absolutely

[unkempt steeple]

I've literally never taken it off after finding out how broken it is at the end of my first playthrough

[woven spade]

I spent roughly 4 hours on lace 2 bc apparently her AI is the bane of my existence and perfectly countered me. Then just climbed up and slimed out GM silk no issue

[meager jolt]

Samesies

[burnt pagoda]

i might be the only one who doesnt like multibinder on any crest that isnt witch

[barren rose]

GMS is a travesty

[storm wave]

i just assumed that lace 2 was a skill check ┐(⁠ツ⁠)⁠┌

[burnt pagoda]

not because its bad but because i just prefer getting back into the action quicker

[unkempt steeple]

Injector band makes it as quick as a normal bind

[light swan]

i like having other cooler blue tools

[steep jolt]

i second tried her cuz i fought her with 5 masks and no needle upgrade (i didnt know those existed) but for those who dont know the reason she is so easy is so its not impossible to do cursed ending

[zinc wharf]

Yeah, because beating her while carrying the Courier’s Rasher instantly destroys the rasher.

[spring carbon]

I never use it much

Quickbind on the other hand...

[burnt pagoda]

injector band genuinely goated though

[light swan]

multibinder was good if im not a freak who likes playing 100% aggressively

[burnt pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-cd-sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-eggman-dr-eggman-gif-6513385627739669387

[unkempt steeple]

The way I never took off quickheal in hk or silksong

[meager jolt]

That's one late skill check

[barren rose]

A mod released today that’s REAL good and edits GMS into the fight she shoulda been, anyone on PC should definitely check out Awakened Grandmother Silk

[light swan]

and usually most builds i want something else important and therefore cant fit a bind build

which is why witch crest is the best crest for having 4 blue slots

[storm wave]

yeah true

[rough zealot]

shakra x iselda what we think (cornifer DIED)

[burnt pagoda]

once i got the blue vesticrest my ass never took off injector band there

[hallow rover]

Ah the trick here is to not get hit so you’re always in action

[light swan]

hunter for example, sawtooth circlet snitch pick volt filament/longclaw NO other choices

[steep jolt]

i love when your warding bell triggers after you heal so you get the heal and damage blocked

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/sk-skong-silk-song-silksong-gif-5179514145072108667

[hallow rover]

When will we see witch crest full bind without lagspike

[light swan]

architect: warding bell 100%, sawtooth circlet 100%, i want either longclaw or claw mirrors no space for multibinder

[spring carbon]

Me when I hit the button of blindingness

[light swan]

theres no lag spike, its the hitstun

[steep jolt]

if iselda never met cornifer yes but shes too loyal

[hallow rover]

Who tf told me it was a potato pc issue last time

[final furnace]

when will reaper's passive get buffed bro i want more silk per hit

[light swan]

the hitstun of 4 strong attacks, claw mirrors, and warding bell activating at the same time

[meager jolt]

When Sea of Sorrow drops, trust

[steep jolt]

that is a bind waiting to happen

[light swan]

also the bind is only multibinder no injector band so its slower than what most people are used too

[spring carbon]

No, I think that's enough silk for you

[light swan]

reminder that warding bell bind is cool

[rough zealot]

then she'd still be a traveller/warrior and perhaps meet shakra on her travels anyway ?

[steep jolt]

i wish i could enter a fury like beast crest with other crests

[steep jolt]

i mean they are both warriors

[rough zealot]

yea so they might cross paths

[steep jolt]

what do we think about hive knight and hornet

[light swan]

oops i sent a khann vid that isnt a warding bind

[meager jolt]

More Khann = good

[wide coral]

whoever had the idea of adding that one chainsaw stuff when double jumping have to be sick

[steep jolt]

does khann let it crust

[wide coral]

it's too broken for the game

[burnt pagoda]

should i finish mount fay before karak this time

i dont mind karak's platforming without it but

double jump.............

[light swan]

i think its fine since it doesnt completely nuke bosses in like 10 seconds unlike red tools

and it takes skill to use in a way where its broken

[steep jolt]

i rushed fay before even fighting trobbio so yes

[light swan]

otherwise its super strong but not jaw dropping

[wide coral]

it really does for me , I nuked most bosses fast af with wanderer crest and that sawtooth stuff

[cobalt pilot]

:(

[burnt pagoda]

sawtooth circlet is cool i just think it does too much damage for me to really enjoy the bosses

[hollow atlas]

anyone know how to tell if seth is going to do a combo or a whirlwind, or is it intentionally impossible to tell?

it's the main thing catching me out

[burnt pagoda]

cuz i like it when these fights go for longer

[light swan]

his telegraphs are a bit different

[burnt pagoda]

not Too long though

[steep jolt]

i can beat any boss hitless if i dont take any hits

[burnt pagoda]

Me too!

[light swan]

hold on let me double check

[hollow atlas]

i'll have to watch footage to notice the difference

[meager jolt]

Slight difference in animation

[wide coral]

exactly , in hollow knight we used to take so much time for every boss and we enjoyed it so much
now I dont even remember most of the bosses because of how fast I killed them

[rough zealot]

as a ship?? i imagine if they had any relationship it'd be more familial

[rough zealot]

was this a necessary sentence

[light swan]

like this i can tell its gonna be a spin, even though i dont remember what happens after in the video

[steep jolt]

i think they would go good together

[light swan]

while this is a combo

[rough zealot]

we dont know anything abt hive knights personality

[meager jolt]

He's funny

[light swan]

one is more lower as if hes prepping to go around and up, one is higher as if hes prepping to slash forward and down

[steep jolt]

he was a fierce warrior and he was fluffy and hornet loves both of those things and they trained under the same mentor

[rough zealot]

okay i see it a bit

[light swan]

@hollow atlas it might help if you try to see if hes ducking vs jumping slightly off the ground, thats what i use to tell the difference

[hollow atlas]

right ok i see it

off the ground is combo

on the ground is whirlwind

[light swan]

yea

i used to have trouble with it tho, but i feel the telegraphs eventually get easier to see

[hollow atlas]

i had to learn cymbol bounce vs clash too, that was tripping me up

[steep jolt]

you can actually parry attacks in this game using your needle

[light swan]

cymbal crash, where he slams down, has him putting the shield in front of him i think

[unkempt steeple]

Fluffly bugs irl sound gross

[light swan]

while the throw its more behind him ig?

[hollow atlas]

rn i'm using debug mod save state loading to refight him cos it's fun

[rough zealot]

kratt x deepnest

[light swan]

yea the fight is awesome

[steep jolt]

she loves fluffy bugs

[trim estuary]

https://klipy.com/gifs/snuggles-moth

[light swan]

ive done it hitless multiple times

[unkempt steeple]

Gms x me I mean who said

[light swan]

i got him (mostly) hitless for the sake of a slander gif lol

[hollow atlas]

yea that's right

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-sk-skong-silksong-gif-10584794009593226309

even though i dont even use hunter that much

[steep jolt]

gms is like 2 balls of silk are you okay

[unkempt steeple]

STAY OUT OF MY DREAMS

[tight viper]

This is tragic

[trim estuary]

🇪 Bind

[light swan]

are you fucking serious i use snitch pick os much

[steep jolt]

snitch pick is bad

[light swan]

frito did yousee my really cool architect fight earlier it was only 1hit

[tight viper]

No it isn’t

[steep jolt]

druids eye is worse tho

[trim estuary]

wrong moth

[rough zealot]

what does snitch pick even do?? it was so bad i never even tried it

[tight viper]

Was good shit

[light swan]

25% increase to clawline damage

[steep jolt]

its bad unless you are one of those guys who does clawline spam

[light swan]

which is nice when youre clawlining a lot

[tight viper]

Extra snitch pick hit that does 25% nail damage, adds up quick

[unkempt steeple]

What gms sees in the void

[hollow atlas]

snith pick generates shards but only steals existing rosaries, so good if you use tools a lot. or don't want to kill enemies for rosaries i guess

[steep jolt]

increases clawline damage and rosaries drop from the enemy each hit instead of all at onced when it dies

[tight viper]

Clawline is so fun and good, give it a shot

[rough zealot]

nail????? u mean needle

[light swan]

the better you get the less you gotta put on safety tools like injector bands or longclaw, meaning you can afford tools like snitch pick

[steep jolt]

hes using knight in pharloom mod

[light swan]

its not the best tool in the world but if you clawline a lot its super nice cuz the damage stacks up

[steep jolt]

is it yellow?

if its yellow druids eye is def worse

[light swan]

are injector bands or longclaw yellow?

[trim estuary]

snitch pick is yellow

[steep jolt]

no

[tight viper]

True!

[light swan]

so snitch pick isnt yellow either if you follow the flow of my setnence

[steep jolt]

idk about long claw

[meager jolt]

God I hate Seth he's so fucking annoying

[rough zealot]

longclaw is blue

[tight viper]

There’s yellow in the Snitch Pick design so it’s a yellow tool

[steep jolt]

you cant say that

[tight viper]

No it’s like green or something

[steep jolt]

seth is a died cancer person

[trim estuary]

so eloquent

[meager jolt]

I just did

[light swan]

i hate meth (the bossfight)

[rough zealot]

stop bullying children with cancer (joke)

[steep jolt]

do you know the story of seth

[storm wave]

hey lets not get crazy now

[meager jolt]

Ya, and I still don't like him, his attack pre-animations are impossible to tell apart

[light swan]

seth is fun anyway

[light swan]

i can tell them apart

theyre tough but manageable

[storm wave]

the kid seth not the boss

[final furnace]

got this little guy stuck on this platform with no cooldown and no damage mods lol

[meager jolt]

Also the GMS scream is really bad for me (very loud and the screen goes monochrome, so I can't see anything)

[rough zealot]

seth is definitely not one of the boss fights i'd like to redo (widow♥️) but his attacks are unique (teleporting to his shield)

[meager jolt]

Oh. He's all right.

[light swan]

ive redon seth a lot of times hes awesome

[cerulean sable]

guys have any silked, with your songs on the line

[steep jolt]

ima be honest id rather have a goldman character that gives rosaries then seth

[unkempt steeple]

Did the conductors eat silk spaghetti

[steep jolt]

yes

the unravveled did at least

they even had silk vending machines

[hollow atlas]

i pogo everything, so whirlwind keeps catching me

i love pogoing the cymbal

[meager jolt]

I'm glad you like him!

[rough zealot]

i want pharloom godhome so i can stop starting new save files just for speedrunning to bellhart, fighting widow, and then restarting (i love widow)

[steep jolt]

best crest for pogoing is knight crest

[steep jolt]

you play on console?

[zinc wharf]

Does anyone have any silly boss challenge ideas I could do? Nothing relying on mods, and hopefully not too challenging, but something fun/funny to do.

[rough zealot]

yes

[light swan]

witch pogo deals more damage

and has a better hitbox (maybe? idk) and better iframes

[tight viper]

Clawline only raging Conchfly

[unkempt steeple]

I love seth's fight

[tight viper]

Shaman pogo best pogo

[steep jolt]

needleless trobbio

[meager jolt]

Same, but with First Sinner

[rough zealot]

i like her too

[steep jolt]

did you know first sinner is atla

[zinc wharf]

I’ve done Raging Conchfly while also having to dance around a Driznarga, that seems very easy by comparison.

[meager jolt]

That's an opinion

[rough zealot]

i fought first sinner using reaper crest

[steep jolt]

as in weavernest atla

[meager jolt]

Ya ya

[light swan]

yea

[tight viper]

The correct opinion

[light swan]

can shaman pogo this 👊 💥

[steep jolt]

laces real name is merglin or whatever the bilewater weavenest is

[light swan]

[tight viper]

If that’s Shakra’s attack, sure absolutely

[steep jolt]

it pogoed it from 5 emters away

[light swan]

no its My attack

[tight viper]

Uh oh

[rough zealot]

theres a weavenest in bilewater?

[zinc wharf]

Yes

[light swan]

weavenest murglin

[steep jolt]

yes its secret

[light swan]

named after the cook, mergwin

[zinc wharf]

It’s where you get the funniest tool in the game

[steep jolt]

it has the ruined trool

[light swan]

grynne did you see my architect fight earlier it was super dope

[steep jolt]

idk how i found it you have to jump into the maggots

[light swan]

i ended up with a silkshot into warding parry kill

[graceful oyster]

I love playing as Robot and smelling the fear of my opponent

[steep jolt]

i just realized why didnt they just throw a silk eater on gms and stop the haunting

[light swan]

it was almost hitless but my dumbass missed a needle parry against a curvesickle cuz i sideslashed instead of upslashed

[graceful oyster]

I did not

[rough zealot]

should i do a hunter only run.. i main reaper

[light swan]

i’m disappointed in myself

[unkempt steeple]

Why didn't the fire bugs just burn all the silk

[meager jolt]

Sure

[unkempt steeple]

Why didn't they simply not become haunted

[graceful oyster]

Like I'm pretty sure I made this ninja wet his pants when I waited here instead of doing something

[unkempt steeple]

Offensive warding bell is crazy

[rough zealot]

they shoulda just said no

[light swan]

anyway lets talk about mio did you see #1408119028400001157-datamining damage number progress

[unkempt steeple]

I like that silksong has offensive bind options

[light swan]

or at least boss hp number progress

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/sk-skong-silk-song-silksong-gif-5179514145072108667

[unkempt steeple]

True like did bilewater even try sending a formal letter to the cidadel

[graceful oyster]

And the fear is warranted

[arctic epoch]

Lets talk about crest

Wanderer suckass

[light swan]

lets not lets talk about offensive waridng bell

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/35YqJl88IgM

[unkempt steeple]

Mind u all crests are skilless slop and if you use any of them you aren't pkaying the game right

[graceful oyster]

Lemme go look

[arctic epoch]

Nah, lets talk about wanderer being suckass

[rough zealot]

so.. u a cloakless crest main?

[unkempt steeple]

Yes.

[rough zealot]

thats

[unkempt steeple]

Cloak and needle are training wheels

[rough zealot]

silksanity

[graceful oyster]

Oh that's super cool, I'm always so impressed with how people figure these things out

[arctic epoch]

Good thing i dont play Silksong

[light swan]

i cant wait

[unkempt steeple]

I don't play anything

[light swan]

im gonna find out bop is secretly pollip pouch

and that firefly is the strongest thing in the game

[brittle totem]

I hate bilewater

[arctic epoch]

Wanderer suckass

[compact hamlet]

I play real, good games, like Fortnite

[graceful oyster]

This guy isn't bad at the game it's just that I had so much control

[unkempt steeple]

Wanderer and bilewater are the only good things about silksong btw

[unkempt steeple]

Fortnite is newgen slop, I only play classics like solitary

[rough zealot]

dude why are you such a masochist🥀 whats your fav enemy, spit squit? stilkins? the things that shoot fireballs during beastfly 2?

[opaque sigil]

ok but this firefly thing just feels true

[unkempt steeple]

I play a mod where every enemy is lost lace acctually

[light swan]

ive always felt like firefly has not been that strong so i really hope im wrong

[arctic epoch]

Wanderer is the most underwhelming crest

[trim estuary]

yo they killed adira on the street today

[light swan]

i have nothing to back it up except vibes

[graceful oyster]

No firefly is really good

[compact hamlet]

Before he could leak Fortnite x Gundam too

[unkempt steeple]

And if I die my steam account gets deleted and I have to buy silksong again

[rough zealot]

supporting small businesses ♥️

[graceful oyster]

I think one of the most interesting things to me about firefly is it also just makes combat easier too

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/kris-pronouns-deltarune-kris-deltarune-deltarune-kris-pronouns-they-them-gif-6074482569525867005

[unkempt steeple]

Team cherry is a greedy AAA game company btw

[graceful oyster]

But you need to know boss patterns

[fiery burrow]

yes 🗣️

[fiery burrow]

+5 dollars for SS 💔

[rough zealot]

"silksong cloakless enemy rando but only bosses can spawn and if i take damage i must sacrifice my eldest child"

[unkempt steeple]

"Silksong if it was good" ahh

[rough zealot]

💀

[light swan]

how so

sailing in general?

[kind tide]

Erm

Guys?

[graceful oyster]

Sailing in general. Building a reliance on it helps people a lot.

[light swan]

idk i just watched through my firefly only final bossfight

in the same amount of time as a three hit combo it dealt like 4% of that damage

WITH a triple parry counter measures

[graceful oyster]

What is wrong with your firefly?

It dishes out a truckload of damage

[light swan]

i have 100k nacre overload, hands greed, perfect state, all damage upgrades, etc

[opaque sigil]

it's also not mutually exclusive with attacking

mio final boss

[light swan]

but it doesn’t look like it stacks up a bunch

i’ve done sail builds i think i was the first to talk about it

[graceful oyster]

So you're saying base firefly doesn't outcompete literally the most juiced up 3 combo you could possibly have

[light swan]

no, thats my most juiced up firefly

[graceful oyster]

Does firefly get damage buffs?

[light swan]

and i’m not trying to say it out competes im saying that my most juiced up firefly hardly reaches 5%

[light swan]

i mean it uses my nacre

[torn token]

Are we still sane down here?

[light swan]

maybe i shouldn’t test against the final boss

[graceful oyster]

I just think I'm missing your point

I don't get what you're trying to convey

[opaque sigil]

if anything I think firefly is particularly effective there

[light swan]

something like snitch pick for example racks up over time and has low opportunity cost

firefly is the most expensive thing in the game and hardly stacks up any damage over time in my experience

[brave geyser]

Hear me out
Gpz 10 but you have to beat voided high halls before him

[torn token]

Why does this server feel a bit more dead than when I last saw it

[light swan]

because again the most juiced up firefly hardly deals 4% of the damage in a 3hit combo

[brave geyser]

Because it is

[graceful oyster]

That feels very wrong

[glacial kelp]

you ruined it gg

[torn token]

:(

[glacial kelp]

the hype has died down though its only natural

[opaque sigil]

I guess I don't have numbers for anything

[glacial kelp]

also maybe midterms for the school folk

[graceful oyster]

I've seen Firefly cut down pretty much every late game boss casually at like half speed of shairpin spam

[torn token]

Fair enough, I remember the daily discourses we would had

[brave geyser]

we still do

[graceful oyster]

Lots of my friends use it because it's a ton of damage for not much effort

And it's fun

[torn token]

Im not even shocked

[glacial kelp]

its more active on weekends

[light swan]

yea so it’s probably just cuz i’m testing it on the final boss

[brave geyser]

there's snitch pick in mio??

[light swan]

it probably deals like, one hit of damage each tick but the damage is so small i cant see it

[brave geyser]

So that was just an example

Ok

[opaque sigil]

there's something a lot stronger than snitch pick tho

[brave geyser]

i see how it is iam still reading

[light swan]

damage gets so bloated against the final boss

i deal so much damage that something high damaging doesn’t look a like a lot to the final boss

[worldly lake]

it snew

[graceful oyster]

Been snewing a lot here

[light swan]

do y’all think firefly is worth the 40 tho

[graceful oyster]

Think we've gotten 3-4 feet in the last 3 days

[light swan]

i feel like it should continue for 2 seconds after sail ends like bop

just cuz i’d like that

[graceful oyster]

Absolutely

[opaque sigil]

the ||shii|| experience difference before and after investing time into build crafting is insane

[opaque sigil]

I mean it depends

you can totally do fights with 100% sail uptime (or close to it)

[zinc wharf]

I don’t have a save file where I can fight Trobbio, so I did needleless Tormented Trobbio instead. Overdosed on Plasmium for HP regen, then sent out 10 million Cogflies and finished it off with Sawtooth Circlet. I also had Pimpillos but I didn’t use them because I didn’t want to miss.

[opaque sigil]

if you play that way you're probably gonna get plenty of value

[cobalt pilot]

A bunch of people got banned

[light swan]

our el jibbigoats

[torn token]

Wait what? Why?

[cobalt pilot]

😔

[light swan]

i want box shades back let’s talk about xenoblade and lace discussion

[rancid stag]

sk disc do british people exist?

[torn token]

No

[rancid stag]

you sure?

[torn token]

Yes

[graceful oyster]

Yes

[cobalt pilot]

By the way

[light swan]

i invested by around the first final boss i think so i started nuking everything afterwards

[torn token]

No

[cobalt pilot]

Why do y'all think the radiance statue is made of pale ore

[torn token]

Am I not allowed an answer?

[light swan]

it’s definitely that i deal so much damage that i can’t tell how much fireflying is impacting

[cobalt pilot]

What is fire flying

[torn token]

:(

[light swan]

using firefly

[cobalt pilot]

Team cherry add a firefly npc

[light swan]

how much did fireflying help here

[opaque sigil]

could be, a part of me does wish I had the numbers but at the same time it's also fun not to know and just go on vibes

[cobalt pilot]

No I just realized bringing it up was probably a bad idea. I'm not going to discuss it further because I shouldn't have brought it up. That's my bad.

[torn token]

Oh, I see

[cobalt pilot]

What is firefly

[graceful oyster]

Firefly does most of the damage here. I have seen a direct comparison twice

[light swan]

i hate it cuz it makes me feel like pollip pouch

[graceful oyster]

Without firefly that fight takes like 2-3x longer even with constant pressure

[torn token]

Is firefly that wispfire lantern thingy?

[opaque sigil]

do you have footage on hand by any chance

[graceful oyster]

No, I was watching friends' streams

[light swan]

creates an electronic force field of constant damage while gliding

[torn token]

That sounds like a better sawtooth

[graceful oyster]

Basically is

[opaque sigil]

notably in mio you can attack without ever interrupting your glide and attacking regens the glide resource so as long as you're aggressive it's constant