sk-discussion

[sharp urchin]

I don't get why they added the image perms rule

for vc it kinda makes sense, but images really ain't a big deal

[lusty grove]

to stop bots from sending free money scams here

it was a pretty big problem

[sharp urchin]

oh damn, I only saw 1 scam in the last few days and haven't been active here since october

[lusty grove]

that means it worked

[sharp urchin]

yea

[sharp urchin]

I wonder who thought "I bet hollow knight fans are a good target for scams"

we are stupid, but also poor

[lusty grove]

it probably just goes through the most popular servers

[rocky lotus]

Because hk fans are illiterate

[wicked chasm]

Indeed

[sharp urchin]

Yeah, so they can't even read the scams

[mellow aurora]

guys are any one of these quests used ffor act 3?

[lusty grove]

anyway,
which crest should I use against Pantheon of Pharloom?

[rocky lotus]

Beast

[sharp urchin]

DO GREAT TASTE OF PHARLOOM

[mellow aurora]

...?

[lusty grove]

all of them, I think
except Final Audience, but I still recommend doing it now

[mellow aurora]

alr

[lusty grove]

alr

[mellow aurora]

kk

[sharp urchin]

I know for a fact mother can be skipped

[lusty grove]

but it gives quest points so it's still worth doing

[sharp urchin]

I would generally recommend hunter

[mellow aurora]

i dont need great taste of pharloom, i think

[lusty grove]

nah, they said Beast so I'm doing Beast

[sharp urchin]

You need all the damage you can get

[lusty grove]

it gives a Pale Oil

[sharp urchin]

btw is there a pantheon mod yet?

[copper hedge]

did Liquid Lacquer for 2 tries

[lusty grove]

and Lugoli is way harder in act 3

[lusty grove]

yes, I'm using it rn

[timid sky]

Guys, can i be considered good at silksong if i can beat lost lace without tools and silk skills

[lusty grove]

it's called Pantheon of Pharloom

[sharp urchin]

is it good?

[lusty grove]

yeah

[sharp urchin]

Also who is the boss at the peak?

[copper hedge]

maybe

[lusty grove]

a few glitches, but it's cool

[sharp urchin]

It is not too hard

[lusty grove]

idk, never got there

[wicked chasm]

Of course

[timid sky]

Oh ok

[sharp urchin]

What kind of glitches? Also how do I download mods?

[lusty grove]

which blue tool should I use with Beast?

[burnt pagoda]

idk if you can beat the game ur good in my book

[sharp urchin]

circlet

[copper hedge]

wait is that Prophecy by Creo as your pfp

[timid sky]

Elite ball knowledge

[neon geyser]

LL
"pantheon"s are just every boss in an act

[timid sky]

But no it’s ripples to waves

[copper hedge]

man

[timid sky]

Wait a minute..

[sharp urchin]

Yippie, another excuse to do LL 😄

[lusty grove]

for example, if you die on a bossfight, then enter a different bossfight before it fully loads, you get noclip
also, I'm using the Thunderscore map to download mods

[copper hedge]

ight brb imma go buy some stuff from grindle

[stable pilot]

Multibinder

[wicked chasm]

Any advice for those two guys at the end of high halls Gaunlet?

[lusty grove]

and if you try to fight Fourth Chorus with Drifter's Cloak off it just doesn't

[lusty grove]

does it even do anything with Beast?

[neon geyser]

max heal from lifesteal is increased to 4
witch works the same way

[lusty grove]

oh, neat

[stable pilot]

Yeah

[sharp urchin]

I have version 1.0 installed (prefer it when I can press down + space to float without wasting double jump), can I download mods for the old version, or do I need to update?

[timid sky]

Increases the amount of masks you can get with lifesteal

[stable pilot]

It also technically increases the enraged mode e

[copper hedge]

btw do u think the Crawhome is considered Hornet's personal bitcoin miner bc it slowly generates beads and shell shards for when you're outside of Bellhart in an indefinite amount of time?

[lusty grove]

tbh, I don't really know

[stable pilot]

Because every time you life steal, you get a few more seconds

[sharp urchin]

ok imma try to install some mods

[final furnace]

crawbell

[final furnace]

yeah probably

[lusty grove]

which red tools go well with Beast?

[stable pilot]

And you can life steal one additional time, so it's more damage, basically

[stable pilot]

Flintslate

[rocky lotus]

Flintslate + flea brew

[copper hedge]

beast's feral mode?

[lusty grove]

alright

[stable pilot]

And drill

[final furnace]

idk flintslate and flea beer

[sand epoch]

[copper hedge]

ive heard that the delver's drill helps with pogoing for beast bc it can pogo on stuff downwards (for some)

[sand epoch]

Drill underrated

[wary warren]

How do I farm shell shards fast? I am at 0 because of the forum fight

[final furnace]

kill stuff

[copper hedge]

kill everyone

[rocky lotus]

Thats only useful if you are bad at beast pogo imo

[sand epoch]

I love js Gurren lagganing my way through gauntlets or exploring in general

[copper hedge]

i was thinking of pogoing in tight spaces

[timid sky]

Maybe phial? it’s was pretty useful for me while fighting lost lace with beast, good if you need health urgently but attacking is too risky

[final furnace]

beast pogo is a slightly curved diagonal pogo but the pogo ends up in the same place as a direct diagonal pogo

[lusty grove]

so, me

[rocky lotus]

But they are doing pantheon of pharloom

[copper hedge]

ah. i didnt know.

[broken seal]

hello chat

[stable pilot]

True

[final furnace]

hi

[broken seal]

lol the guy from earlier got muted that's funny

[timid sky]

Yo

[rocky lotus]

Who

[lusty grove]

I'd send a screenshot of me fighting Savage Beastfly 1 with Beast, but I still don't have image perms

[broken seal]

Laz 💔

[sand epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-s3-jujutsu-kaisen-s3-gif-7572046441222807134

[sand epoch]

Top 10 tools imo

No top 5

[broken seal]

i hate when i'm attacked by the miniature sun of infinite rotation (tusk act 4 spin his balls)

[rocky lotus]

Drill is good but i suck so bad with it

[sand epoch]

Can’t wait for sbr

[broken seal]

so real

[sand epoch]

It’s pretty satisfying against nyleth

Worst dream boss btw

[final furnace]

delver's drill is down architect pogo

[lusty grove]

this was the fastest I've ever killed Fourth Chorus

[rocky lotus]

They should add dream warriors to silksong

And they are all knockoffs of the original hk ones

[broken seal]

there were a lotta rumors of them skipping part 7 cuz it'd be too hard to animate and that they'd just do part 8, i'm glad part 7 is real 🙏 now let's hope they don't fuck it up or pull a One Punch Man Season 3 💔

[lusty grove]

Khann, Nyleth, Karmelita, Clover Dancers

[final furnace]

those are dream bosses not dream warriors

[sand epoch]

They can’t mess up gyro

[broken seal]

why would you want this all of the dream warriors suck

they were the worst bosses in HK

[rocky lotus]

It would be funny

[broken seal]

or Filthy Acts at a Reasonable Price (localization cooked)

[sand epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/d4c-erixander-jjba-gif-21940760

[rocky lotus]

Also i said they should be knockoffs of the hk dream warriors

[final furnace]

i took so long to get 1.8k essence cuz of trying to find all the dream warriors

[broken seal]

FA(aa)RP

[broken seal]

just ignore them tbh 💔

[odd marsh]

do these 2 match well?

[broken seal]

guys listen to Jazz

[thorn grotto]

What's the best Weavenest in Silksong based on vibes and aesthetic

[final furnace]

the one in moss grotto

[thorn grotto]

imo it's either Murglin or Cindril

[broken seal]

Wormways has Shart Fart 😍

[foggy fossil]

idk why but whenever i think of greymoor i think of England

[lusty grove]

Cindril is really good

[thorn grotto]

the weather + England has a lot of moors

it's not that far fetched of a comparison tbh

[broken seal]

prolly cuz there are a lot of loud squaking things that use knives to attack you

[burnt pagoda]

why does witch lowkey kinda suck for lost lace

[broken seal]

witch never sucks

[rocky lotus]

Why does witch lowkey kinda suck.

[burnt pagoda]

me when i pogo and eat shit because my hitbox lingers a little too long inside lace

[thorn grotto]

Because you can't heal without getting double damaged by LL

[burnt pagoda]

its not even the healing

its how long its animations are

[final furnace]

if its not the healing then there is nothing wrong

[broken seal]

the pogo gives i-frames idk what that's about lol, prolly bad timing

[final furnace]

witch's attacks are slightly delayed btw

[broken seal]

dash immediately after landing the pogo to phase through enemies

[burnt pagoda]

ill try dashing wait

oh wow it worked

[broken seal]

also use sawtooth circlet it's so fun on witch

[burnt pagoda]

yeah im using sawtooth

experimenting w it on lost lace

its kind of insane

[broken seal]

if you use it fused with the pogo you get more hits

[burnt pagoda]

mhm

[broken seal]

anyway bye chat gl cinna

[burnt pagoda]

you can kinda just pogo + sawtooth and everything fucking dies

thanks

[final furnace]

bye

[lusty grove]

DAMMIT

Last Judge killed me

[final furnace]

?

k

[lusty grove]

I was doing Pantheon of Pharloom

[final furnace]

ye

[sharp urchin]

I just installed pantheon of pharloom mod, where do I start an attempt?

[lusty grove]

press B

[old raft]

guys i wonder
how mnay of you find out you can poshanka by yourself without looking it up or asking/being told by friends

[final furnace]

one cant be on youtube without the front page being full of spoilers

[lusty grove]

I just did it accidentally

[final furnace]

when it came out

[unkempt steeple]

Poshanka was one of the first things I saw about silksong before playing

[final furnace]

same

[unkempt steeple]

Saw it and needolin so I thought we'd be able to play multiple instruments lol

[old raft]

hollow knight silkband

[worthy lintel]

I know HK had overlapping rooms and stuff but I feel like Silksong is even worse

This box is clearly bigger on the inside, how did Team Cherry not realise?

[old raft]

mahbe hornet gets small when she enters

like a doraemon tool

[rocky lotus]

This reference felt really forced ngl why would tc do this

[tender coral]

i actually dont think tc put that in it just showed up and they couldnt get rid of it

[glad minnow]

silksong should add an energy system where you can only kill 5 enemies b4 waiting for a minute to replenish 1 energy (1 energy=1 kill) and bosses require 3 energy to fight, and 2 to kill, and when you have no energy, you cant use abilities, you need to store 1 energy to use abilities, and if you have 0 energy and cant find a bench and die, you have to watch a 60 second unskipable ad to gain one energy

[sharp urchin]

What is the requirement to start? I wanna do it on a new save file so I don't increase the playtime of my main one, but it doesn't work on a new save file

[burnt pagoda]

i swear ive seen this message before

[rocky lotus]

There needs to be a way to pay for energy

[glad minnow]

if its the godhome mod, it wont add time

[copper hedge]

just made Hornet fall while spinning as a ball after a backflip lo

[lusty grove]

you can onyl fight bosses you already fought on that save file
also, it doesn't save your progress, so you can use it on your regular save file without getting more playtime

[glad minnow]

and if ur worried, just make a backup

[patent heath]

This feels too specific.

[sharp urchin]

Its the pantheon of pharloom mod

[glad minnow]

it dosent add playtime

and why do it on ur save

do it on a new one, it will give you the upgrades as you go

and I THINK, the panth of pharloom mod just teleports you and gives upgrades, so doing it on an existing file wont work, bc the bosses are defeated

[near mirage]

hi chat

[small marsh]

Uh guys any tips on how to treverse the mist

[glad minnow]

shut up, machine

[near mirage]

[lusty grove]

do you have needolin?

[small marsh]

I just found it and I’m so scared

[small marsh]

Ya

[near mirage]

play it near the white fly things

[lusty grove]

use it

[eager cliff]

Where's a good place to farm rosaries in act 1

[glad minnow]

thats the neat part, you dont farm in act one

[lusty grove]

Last Judge is so hard with Beast

[glad minnow]

beast crest is the 2nd best crest in the game if yk how to use it

[neon geyser]

immediate left or right of halfway home
hunters march

[eager cliff]

I'm trying to get some tools and need a bunch

[glad minnow]

wait for act 2 and farm grand reeds ow wtv they are called

its not worth it

[copper hedge]

warmup fight for the unravelled and i fucking died to a random spear (unravelled was dying)

augh here we go again

[glad minnow]

I left the unravelled till I had max everything

[copper hedge]

i just wanted to collect that psalm cylinder and memory locket

i dont mind the silk heart

[mellow aurora]

yeah i srsly dont get what im doing wrong @lusty grove i've done EVERYTHING. and final audience/great taste of pharloom isnt mandatory. WHAT AM I MISSING OUT ON 😭

[lusty grove]

the fleas

[mellow aurora]

done

[lusty grove]

the quest points?

[mellow aurora]

hollup

[lusty grove]

got Faydown Cloak?

[near mirage]

lyinejeneksoekenndjdksoslsnendjdkdkrkrjurjfjfjfjdidjfjfjfjfjjdhxjdjidkdjfjfnrjfjfnfnnfnfndjskskkdkd

[lusty grove]

uh...

[copper hedge]

?

[mellow aurora]

i dont know what im missing

[lusty grove]

all maps + Trail's End?

[mellow aurora]

i've done 30 quests excluding main quests

[mellow aurora]

done that too..

[lusty grove]

fought Lace in the Cradle?

[mellow aurora]

yep

[mellow aurora]

ts lowk frying me 😭 💔

[lusty grove]

Bellhome Key?

[mellow aurora]

done

[timid sky]

Fleatopia?

[mellow aurora]

done

[lusty grove]

did you move the flea caravan to Fleatopia or just get the fleas?

[timid sky]

Scarecrow quest?

[mellow aurora]

every wish wall done too i double checked like 3 times

[mellow aurora]

i got the fleas and moved them

[lusty grove]

check the Bellhart one again, maybe it's already there

[mellow aurora]

halfway home one? yeah that too done

[lusty grove]

do Great Taste of Pharloom and Final Audience, they give quest points

[mellow aurora]

lemme reopen the game

[copper hedge]

imagine if youve played Choral Chambers in a random church congregation (just like that one time someone played minecraft music and no one suspected it)

[untold dune]

its not only wishboard quests that was an early misconception thats still around, u need to complete 17 'quest points', basically complete quests from npcs too

[timid sky]

Maybe not enough quest points yet? Wishwalls aren’t the only source you can also get from npcs

[mellow aurora]

i've done exactly 30 quests tho (normal ones)

[lusty grove]

maybe some of them don't count towards the quest points

[mellow aurora]

hm..

[lusty grove]

have you done Roach Guts?

[mellow aurora]

? whats that

[lusty grove]

a quest in Sinner's Road

[untold dune]

all quest points
-# Berry Picking
-# An Icon of Hope
-# Rite of the Pollip
-# Volatile Flintbeetles
-# My Missing Courier
-# My Missing Brother
-# Pinmaster's Oil
-# The Terrible Tyrant
-# Fine Pins
-# Roach Guts
-# Great Taste of Pharloom
-# Alchemist's Assistant
-# Bugs of Pharloom
-# Silver Bells
-# Savage Beastfly
-# Broodfeast
-# Garb of the Pilgrims
-# The Wandering Merchant
-# The Lost Merchant
-# Final Audience
-# Cloaks of the Choir
-# The Wailing Mother

[timid sky]

Kill roaches for ground spike tool

[lusty grove]

also, the Plasmium quest

and the Huntress quest

[mellow aurora]

i havent done:

final audience
Alchemists assistant

P.S - isn't broodfeast the boss for wailing mother?

[worldly umbra]

what we talking about

[timid sky]

No

[untold dune]

thats broodmother

[mellow aurora]

my 3rd act aint unlocking for some reason

[lusty grove]

no that'd be Broodmother

[mellow aurora]

i havent done feast..

[timid sky]

Broodfeast is from the huntress in putrified ducts

[mellow aurora]

the vendor?

[timid sky]

No

[untold dune]

theres 22 in that list so u have to do most but not all

[mellow aurora]

im missing out on 3

[lusty grove]

ngl I didn't do those quests in my first playthrough and still got Silk and Soul

[mellow aurora]

what is wrong with mine 😭

[worldly umbra]

heres the checklist that i stole borrowed

[lusty grove]

althou I did get two Courier delivers

[untold dune]

god i hate act 3 requirements its wayy too steep imo

[mellow aurora]

ALL THIS DONE BRO WHAT.

[mellow aurora]

havent done that..

[timid sky]

Purple flowers?

[mellow aurora]

pollips? yeah

[azure patrol]

Fiery Hot Take: Melamo > Shaw

[lusty grove]

I think it just checks to see if you're actually engaging with the world instead of just doing what's required

[worldly umbra]

i loved the how you got the true ending in hollow knight but in silksong i dont like it

[fallen flower]

any gym rat here i need help

[mellow aurora]

well i think im doing more than required 💔

[untold dune]

it kinda just makes me enjoy the game less on replay tho

[azure patrol]

Abyss Shaw when???

[lusty grove]

if you just do every quest you run into and look into every area, you'd probably get Silk and Soul normally

[lusty grove]

yeah, it makes replaying the game a bit complicated

[mellow aurora]

no ones done that, i'm sure (like exploring before finding out silk and soul EXISTS)

[near mirage]

[spiral briar]

He means the Huntress in Purtrirdfied ducts

[lusty grove]

I mean, someone had to find out Silk and Soul existed first

also, it's not that hard

you finish the game, then keep playing for 100%

[untold dune]

its not hard its just needlessly time consuming

[spiral briar]

lol I just did more stuff

[mellow aurora]

ehhh

[fallen flower]

IS THERE A SINGLE GYM RAT HERE

[timid sky]

#off-topic

[near mirage]

Huh

[azure patrol]

Did Team Cherry really need to make Hornet a fucking murderer?

[spiral briar]

and then it appeared

[fallen flower]

I NEED HELP

[near mirage]

as if she didnt murder people in the first game

[lusty grove]

she's a Hunter, that was canon in Hollow Knight 1

[spiral briar]

RIP Conchflies

[mellow aurora]

thats enough silksong for today

[lusty grove]

wait
Balm for the Wounded

[mellow aurora]

done

[lusty grove]

oh

[near mirage]

trails end

[mellow aurora]

💔 💔

[mellow aurora]

done

[lusty grove]

then go check the Bellhart wishwall

[spiral briar]

25 fleas found

[lusty grove]

it should be there

[mellow aurora]

22-25 yeah

[spiral briar]

And in the ducts at the pale lake

[lusty grove]

22

[mellow aurora]

checked all the wish walls like 4-5 times, found nothing

[spiral briar]

Oh ok

[near mirage]

i just got all of the fleas

[mellow aurora]

kool

[lusty grove]

talk to Caretaker

[mellow aurora]

done he keeps repeating the same dialouge as before

[near mirage]

no i meant i got all of the fleas so id meet the pre requisite for silk and soul

[lusty grove]

then your game is glitched

[mellow aurora]

.

[near mirage]

im already in act 3 😭 😭 🙏

[timid sky]

Debatable

[mellow aurora]

...

i must be missing something..

[spiral briar]

Have you defeated GMS game once am still curious if that’s needed

[lusty grove]

you did everything and still didn't get it?

[mellow aurora]

i think its quest points..

[untold dune]

might be a long shot but have you actually used the bellhome key to unlock your house?

[azure patrol]

Uhhh hello? Did we forget about Green Prince or what she said when she was confronted about keeping Karmelita's still beating heart as a trophy or ||what she ends up doing after usurping Gms powers||?

[mellow aurora]

done that already..

[timid sky]

Can you send a video of the quests youve completed?

[untold dune]

hmm

[lusty grove]

THEN GO DO THOSE TWO QUESTS

[spiral briar]

Prop yes

[timid sky]

Like finished quests in quests tab of the menu

[mellow aurora]

it MIGHT be im not sure

[near mirage]

[spiral briar]

Also people can miss Broodmother quest

[near mirage]

broodmothers optional anyway lmao

[spiral briar]

Since you need to get captured or the key

[lusty grove]

she's a Hunter, killing people is her whole thing

[timid sky]

Is there a statue in bone bottom?

[spiral briar]

It’s a quest in songclave

[thorny linden]

made of shards yea

[timid sky]

Did you upgrade your needle to lv2?

[mellow aurora]

in this im missing icon of hope, roach guts, alch assistant, final audience, liquid lac, queen egg, fleatopia suppies HOLY SHIT ITS FUCKING THIS

[timid sky]

With the oil?

[near mirage]

i didnt kill broodmother ever and still eventually got silk and soul

[azure patrol]

Bone bottom??🥴

[mellow aurora]

I'M MISSING LIKE 8 QUESTS HERE WTF

[lusty grove]

oh. yeah it's that

[near mirage]

(literally all of these besides icon of hope is optional 😭)

i literally only got the final audience wish in act 3 anyway lmao

[lusty grove]

you need 17 wishes from a list to get Silk and Soul

[near mirage]

because i neglected second sentinel up until that point

[timid sky]

Just do the easier ones
Icon, guts, alchemy and queen’s egg are relatively easy

[near mirage]

queens egg is the styx one right

[lusty grove]

yeah

[near mirage]

THAT I STILL HAVENT FUCKING DONE YET FOR SOME REASON

[thorny linden]

its pretty easy

[timid sky]

If you get the shortcut

[thorny linden]

i went to greymoor

[near mirage]

i havent done it yet because pill and tipp havent offered it to me yet 💀

[mellow aurora]

quick question, to unlock alchemist door in wormways, i need simple key?

[thorny linden]

pill and tipp are actually pretty cute

[timid sky]

I think so

[near mirage]

and EVIL

[thorny linden]

they are like little eggs

[mellow aurora]

perfect..

[thorny linden]

lmao

[near mirage]

by the way

[mellow aurora]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215612318247952385/1472532229233315912/togif.gif

[near mirage]

do you have hivesteel needle

[mellow aurora]

...?

[near mirage]

have you talked to pinmaster plinney ever

[spiral briar]

Btw the package ones are not needed

[mellow aurora]

yeah ofc

[timid sky]

Did you upgrade your needle with 2 oils

[mellow aurora]

what those 0_0

[mellow aurora]

1 oil.

[near mirage]

courier quests like fleatopia supplies

[thorny linden]

i never saw that one

[timid sky]

From vaults or from gourmet meal?

[mellow aurora]

theres a board at fleatopia too?

[spiral briar]

Yes also pretty sure he needs to trigger second skull tyrant fight

[mellow aurora]

vaults

[spiral briar]

Has he done that?

[mellow aurora]

THERES A SECOND?!-

[near mirage]

Bro only pill and tipp can offer courier quests 💀 💀

[timid sky]

Have you finished the gourmet quest

[mellow aurora]

oh sh u meant courier mb

[near mirage]

great taste of pharloom

[glad minnow]

Unlocking Act IV
Beat Lost Lace in Act III Abyss—Knight cuts silk tendrils, Hornet escapes, credits roll. Reload: Void sealed, enemies/shrines/haunts gone, abilities removed, Abyss/Deep Docks collapsed. New Citadel routes open.
Sherma seizes Citadel control: bans songs, taxes farms, jails dissenters. Lead resistance to unite factions, storm for revolutionary ending.
Full Sequence
Reload, visit fixed Act III benches (Bone Bottom/Bellhart). Talk wounded messenger—unlocks army commands.
Do faction quests any order from safe spots (Songclave/Greyfield).
Finish Needle Wardens (Threads of Rebellion): Sabotage Cogwork depots, raid Bellhart prison vents, ambush Blasted Steps convoy. Get scouts, anti-armor strikes, factory shortcuts.
Forge Forgers (Molten Revolt, Deep Docks): Redirect lava in halls, disable Wormways engines, defend Shellwood waves. Get traps/catapults/checkpoints.
Sunward Choir (Echoes of Songclaves, Choral Chambers): Recover 4 hymns (tone puzzles), escort Mount Fay, claim songspire (parry guardian). Get heals/rallies/rest zones.
Greyfield Collective (Fields of Defiance): Guard harvests on mounts, duel Hunter's March warden, fortify bases. Get troop moves/supply cuts/escorts.
Unite at Songclave HQ—armies muster cutscene. War of Citadel: Command squads (scout/trap/rally/logistics).
Sieges: Cogwork mechs (strikes), Whiteward patrols (traps), High Halls guards (morale), core breach (supplies cut). Sherma flees to Mount Fay Surface.
Final Ascent: Elevators/lifts/gaps. Boss Sherma Eclipse: Phase 1 dodge/parry beams; Phase 2 break barriers (buffs); Phase 3 Void fusion (nail combos). Twist: Void corrupted him.
Full factions: Full liberation, Sherma redeems. Partial: Losses, bittersweet. NG+ carries upgrades. ~10hrs post-Act III wishes.

[rose flax]

i’ve been thinking

[tepid mist]

shut up

[mellow aurora]

act iv 🔥

[spiral briar]

Yep that’s why go to bone bottom and sit on the bench then cry

[worldly umbra]

hoyl fucking shit

[rose flax]

imagine a weaver vessel

[near mirage]

?????

[glad minnow]

act 4

of silksong

[near mirage]

THERE IS NO ACT IV

[glad minnow]

its a secret act

[rose flax]

would a weaver vessel even be possible

[near mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[worldly umbra]

what if i was just to copy and paste my ENTIRE lore bible for steelshatter

[glad minnow]

THERE LITTERALY IS

[mellow aurora]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215612318247952385/1472540237027868747/togif.gif

[worldly umbra]

32k characters btw'

[rose flax]

like if GMS tossed a pharlid into the abyss and then evolved it

[spiral briar]

I know why he can’t get it act 3 he never sat on the bench in bone bottom after all wish there to trigger that one depressing event

[near mirage]

weaver and pale king have baby
baby thrown into abyss
baby dies
void goes into baby shell
weaver vessel

[timid sky]

What is greyfield

[copper hedge]

ok nvm it got ignored. forget i sent anything

[timid sky]

I haven’t found it yet

[glad minnow]

the war of greymor and far fields

[lusty grove]

like, a Weaver filled with Void?

[mellow aurora]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215612318247952385/1472541625526784204/togif.gif

[glad minnow]

it was called greyfield

[lusty grove]

probably

[burnt pagoda]

probably not
vessels have to be purely void

[rose flax]

yes like a pale vessel

[timid sky]

I was trying to watch but discord is fucking asshole and don’t loads

[glad minnow]

because it spanned both far fields and greymor

[spiral briar]

Ok right now go back to bone bottom and sit on the bench

[near mirage]

this is how weaver vessel exist

[mellow aurora]

sat there like a 1000 times btw

[burnt pagoda]

e.g. hornet isnt a vessel because of her weaver half

[copper hedge]

ill send it tomorrow. its late anyways

[spiral briar]

Do it again

[lusty grove]

if GMS ascends a Pharlid egg, then throws it into the Void

[spiral briar]

You will see…

[rose flax]

i thought most weavers couldnt reproduce

(i’m not sure what herrah is ngl)

[lusty grove]

or if a Weaver has a child (which is hard but possible), then throws the egg into the Void

[spiral briar]

This poor soul doesn’t know what happens to bone bottom

[mellow aurora]

ight ima sleep enough skong for today 💔

[near mirage]

lets just say that doesnt matter

[timid sky]

All weavers can reproduce, it’s just very uncomfortable

[lusty grove]

would the Weaver Vessel survive? prob not

[copper hedge]

what happens if GMS ascends a rancid egg

[lusty grove]

but it's possible to make one

[timid sky]

Bluggsac

[lusty grove]

we have no idea

[rose flax]

oh yeah as proven by widow’s body type

[near mirage]

Proven?

[copper hedge]

bluggsac weaver???

[near mirage]

Also when did widow reproduce what

[timid sky]

Weaver but stinky

[near mirage]

It was herrah that did 😭

[rose flax]

she didn’t

[copper hedge]

weaver got defender's crest built in

[rose flax]

widow doesnt look capable of producing a child at all

and most weavers have that same shape

[timid sky]

I hc that herrah doesn’t look like other weavers because her body got swollen from carrying hornet for 9 months

[spiral briar]

Ok so I guess you have to trigger skull tyrant in bone bottom for act 3 form a narrative point tho makes a lot of sense I guess

[burnt pagoda]

a bunch of the weavers at hallownest probably reproduced too since there's the tiny weavers in deepnest

[near mirage]

i head canon herrah doesnt look like other weavers because i said so

also what the hell are the stalking devouts
they arent weavers right

[rose flax]

or maybe herrah was like that before hornet, and it was why she could have hornet in the first place

[spiral briar]

But like.., MY HARD WOr-

[timid sky]

Maybe

[copper hedge]

i reckon that they evolved to withstand such pain so its a lot

[lusty grove]

are Weavers specifically Pharlids ascended by GMS or can they be any ascended bug?

[rose flax]

most weavers are built like fucking sticks, ofc it’d be uncomfortable to have a child like that

[timid sky]

Deepnest creature

[near mirage]

likely just pharlids

[copper hedge]

they just like herrah a lot

[near mirage]

if even possible 😭

[copper hedge]

so they wear a similar mask

[lusty grove]

can GMS even ascend other kinds of bugs? what would they look like?

[timid sky]

We don’t know for sure

[copper hedge]

thus "devouts"

[near mirage]

im fuckign dumb

[timid sky]

Maybe herrah was evolved from drapes

[worldly umbra]

so yesterday i said i finished the my seth game doc but i lied

[near mirage]

ignore everything i said 😭

[worldly umbra]

im writing how to get the true ending right now

[lusty grove]

yeah she does look a lot like one

[rose flax]

a weaver vessel would be so fucking cool

petition to make hollow knight 3 MC a weaver vessel

[lusty grove]

Absolom explaining why she needs a Weavenest in the Abyss

[foggy fossil]

would that even work

[balmy topaz]

I loooove how silksong has a 320 x 200

[burnt pagoda]

it likely would not

[timid sky]

How would that work

[copper hedge]

lmao

[burnt pagoda]

hornet is literally proof of that

[worldly umbra]

all weavers are sisters and white lady makes the vessels

[worldly umbra]

so like

[rose flax]

several possibilities i have in mind

[lusty grove]

hear me out: Weaver has child, egg is put in the Abyss

[rose flax]

GMS yeets a pharlid into the abyss

then ascends it

or a weaver manages to have a kid, throws it into the abyss

[copper hedge]

pharlid gets shredded by void tendrils

[lusty grove]

that'd instantly kill the Pharlid

we need an egg

[foggy fossil]

well you don't become a vessel just because you grew up in the abyss

[rose flax]

there is a weavenest in the abyss for some reason

perhaps it could have something to do with that

[mellow aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-hornet-savage-beastfly-pain-gif-2966848518310440724

[spark anchor]

how would a weaver vessel be created though

[copper hedge]

maybe absolom was thinking of using void to seal away GMS

[burnt pagoda]

the egg would fuckin Die because they lack the capacity to withstand the void

the entire thing that makes vessels unique is that they are purely void

[lusty grove]

everything lacks the capacity to withstand the Void, PK died of it

[spark anchor]

vessels are made of wyrm, root and void

[burnt pagoda]

like. hornet cant enter the black egg temple because she isnt purely void

[mellow aurora]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/736153071218065508/1095577231377575976/Yummy_Knight.gif

[rose flax]

how could PK and WLs eggs withstand the void?

[spark anchor]

its like cross pollinating plants or something

[lusty grove]

also dying is part of the Vessel making process

[burnt pagoda]

because they were made by two pale beings

[foggy fossil]

well they're pale beings

[lusty grove]

PK died of Void

[foggy fossil]

never directly stated

[burnt pagoda]

my ass is a newgen but i dont remember when this happened?

[rose flax]

GMS is pale, perhaps that makes weavers of similar durability

[lusty grove]

it's the most plausible explanation

[foggy fossil]

it's not 'confirmed'

[regal isle]

Sup guys whatchu talking abt

[worldly umbra]

pale king got murked by xero

[rose flax]

PK’s corpse is found at his throne where there are void particles lingering so some make that conclusion

[worldly umbra]

xero wanted revenge

[lusty grove]

his room has Void particles in it, the Kingsmoulds around it are collapsed and leaking Void, and there's nothing else that could have killed him

[timid sky]

His sins weighing on him

[lusty grove]

Pale Beings aren't immune to the Void

[burnt pagoda]

ahh

i thought he died though because he chose to?

[lusty grove]

people don't die of sinfulness, this isn't Pharloom

[foggy fossil]

if that's the case then why isn't there void seeping out of his eyes

[lusty grove]

how do you "choose to die"?

[opaque sigil]

void didn't kill him, there isn't enough of it there in a capacity that could be a threat and he doesn't have any of the signs of void death etc

[rose flax]

again, a vessel weaver with void touched silk would be fire

[burnt pagoda]

.......ending his own life

[rose flax]

if only i could figure out how that would be possible

[lusty grove]

there are multiple Kingsmoulds around his room

[burnt pagoda]

like

he let himself die

[lusty grove]

how do you end your own life while still sitting on your throne?

[burnt pagoda]

or he killed himself

[rose flax]

also i heard someone earlier state that WL is needed specifically to make vessels

[foggy fossil]

and also how would kingsmoulds die of void if they're made of it

[trim estuary]

He’s a deity he could figure it out

[rose flax]

but why?

[lusty grove]

their Void escaped

Hornet says her dad was stupid for making Void constructs

[balmy topaz]

Just started silksong why they gotta remove the downslash

[foggy fossil]

yea true

[timid sky]

No they didn’t

[trim estuary]

Does It Know?

[lusty grove]

Void cannot be contained, and it's foolish to try
the Pale King suffered the consequences of trying

[spark anchor]

it is a pogo

you should really get used to it since the default moveset is PEAK!

[rose flax]

does this mean the vessels fucking explode if they live long enough

[regal isle]

No cuz they are in a shell that isnt volatile

[opaque sigil]

no the journal line is just incoherent

[trim estuary]

I wish

[daring basin]

Hornet comes home one day and Hollow just fucking pops like a balloon

[trim estuary]

He kinda succeeded though

[lusty grove]

I mean, they are very unstable (see: Broken Vessel, The Hollow Knight)

[opaque sigil]

the charitable reading is that tc meant for hornet to be biased there but odds are they just uh forgor

[rose flax]

that’s when they are infected by the radiance

[trim estuary]

As much as I hate the Pale King he 100% succeeded in containing and using void

[lusty grove]

please tell me which of Pale King's Void constructs worked

[opaque sigil]

all... of them

[lusty grove]

Broken Vessel died before being infected

[burnt pagoda]

they all literally have the void inside them

[regal isle]

They are infected duh, BV has lost a chunk of its shell snd the HK holds the infection

[burnt pagoda]

hornet mentions the knight has an "emptiness" she lacks

[daring basin]

kingsmold, wingsmold, vessels.

[trim estuary]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/4/4c/HK_Knight.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width/360?cb=20190327150644&path-prefix=protagonist

[lusty grove]

the Kingsmoulds killed him, the Pure Vessel failed, and the Wingsmoulds are too useless to fail at anything

[burnt pagoda]

the pure vessel failed at containing the radiance, not the void

[lusty grove]

broke out of containment

[opaque sigil]

the kingsmoulds didn't kill him pv failed for different reasons wingsmoulds didn't fail at anything

[daring basin]

the kingsmolds didn’t kill him

[foggy fossil]

there could be other reasons for their death
for example the vessel in greenpath died from hornet not because it's unstable

[trim estuary]

The vessels were all fully functional, just because they didn’t succeed at their purpose doesn’t mean he failed to harness void

[lusty grove]

the Void in the Kingsmoulds leaked and killed him
Pure Vessel failed and that's what matters
Wingsmoulds don't do anything, they have nothing to fail at

[opaque sigil]

ok you're just making shit up

[lusty grove]

also, the Vessels aren't Void constructs

[lusty grove]

?

[trim estuary]

Kingsmoulds didn’t kill PK

[opaque sigil]

no but you see they did because I said so

[lusty grove]

then what did?

[opaque sigil]

he withered away on his throne

[daring basin]

saw one mossbag theory and took it as pure truth

[burnt pagoda]

ok
what did the pure vessel fail at

[lusty grove]

I feel like you're ignoring the message where I explained why

[lusty grove]

containing the Radiance

[regal isle]

Failed at containing the radiance

[opaque sigil]

which was just nonsense you made up

[burnt pagoda]

yeah
the radiance
not the void

[balmy topaz]

No way it is

[balmy topaz]

They did it's now a charges up attack or sm

[spark anchor]

yes it is

[lusty grove]

did you even read the message where I explained why I think that?

[opaque sigil]

yes which is how I know it was nonsense you made up

[burnt pagoda]

i thought we were talking about whether or not the pale king succeeded in containing the void

[regal isle]

Yeah hunters crest had a diagonal dive pogo, im not gonna elaborate any further to not spoil you

[burnt pagoda]

(he did with the vessels thats literally the entire reason they are capable of contain the radiance)

[balmy topaz]

Why are we in a ripoff green path

[balmy topaz]

OHHHHHHH okok

Is silksong longer than hollow knight?

[lusty grove]

then why did the Pale King die? why did the Pale King, who's surrounded by dead and leaking Kingsmoulds in a room with Void Particles where nothing else could have possibly killed him, die?

[opaque sigil]

he withered away on his throne

[regal isle]

Do not call moss goatto "ripoff greenpath"💔💔

[trim estuary]

Kind of

[near mirage]

Im so silksong

[lusty grove]

they're NOT capable of containing the Radiance

[regal isle]

Yes a lot longer and bigger

[spark anchor]

depends on how far you wanna go

[near mirage]

And harder

[lusty grove]

a literal god just withered away?

[regal isle]

And thats a good thing

[sharp slate]

I would say silksong is bigger, but it took me less time due to playing hk first

[regal isle]

I mean yeah he couldve died with time

[spark anchor]

normal ending is about as long as the original game without dlc, true ending is as long as hollow knight with dlc

[opaque sigil]

the void particles aren't present in any harmful capacity and void leaves clear signs when it kills things none of which are present, more likely the kingsmoulds shut down after he died since they were assigned to protect him, kingsmoulds elsewhere are fine

[near mirage]

I suck ass

[burnt pagoda]

just because it isnt plausible doesnt mean it isnt possible
either way, doesnt invalidate the fact that he DID succeed in controlling the void through pure vessel and the other vessels

[sharp slate]

is it harderer though? harderer than base hollow knight not dlc imo

[regal isle]

💔

[trim estuary]

He gave up

[regal isle]

A lot harder than the base game

[burnt pagoda]

gang we literally see someone fade away after you fulfill their last wish with the flower quest

[lusty grove]

okay, thank you for presenting counter evidence for the first time instead of just saying that I made it up

[burnt pagoda]

why is it so unbelievable that the pale king just decided to stop living

[opaque sigil]

and quirrel

[regal isle]

Shhhh dont tell em that yet

[trim estuary]

He already said this earlier 💔

[near mirage]

Fan character

[sharp slate]

hot take groal the great is overrated for difficulty you guys just keep falling into the water

[lusty grove]

he literally didn't

I think

[lusty grove]

the runback is awful

[regal isle]

Shouldve killed him first try then (i didnt💔💔)

[sharp slate]

Run back is annoying i would say, you just cant sprint back or still kin cut you off is the main problem

[near mirage]

Wreath of purity

[sharp slate]

hidden bench is stupid as fuck though

[hollow crater]

not the water I just can't pogo on him cause he can just randomly decide to fly up to jump in the water

[near mirage]

pale king just dieded of death

wait then how the hell did the kingsmoulds die

[hollow crater]

But regarding water I keep forgetting where wreath of purity is so I just run multibinder

[trim estuary]

Everything rots

[lusty grove]

nothing doesn't rot
Void is nothing (according to Hornet)
Void doesn't rot

[near mirage]

And how are the 2 near the beginning of White Palace and the other 2 in the end of Path of Pain alive

[burnt pagoda]

isnt white palace in the dream world

[near mirage]

yeah

well i assume more real since steel soul deaths count here

[hollow crater]

they forgot to die probably

[trim estuary]

'Nothing' is an idea that dwells in the absence of 'something.' But 'nothing' cannot exist on its own. And because of that, 'nothing' can't exist.

[burnt pagoda]

then unless im missing something technically none of them should be “alive”

[near mirage]

for some reason

[foggy fossil]

doesn't pk infuse them with soul first or

[hollow crater]

Yeah I always found it weird how this particular dream kills you in steel soul
Idk if there are any lore reasons as to why or the devs just wanted to make it a challenge

[graceful oyster]

Trobbio

[near mirage]

radiance fight makes sense

[hollow crater]

yeah

[near mirage]

since ur fighting the real ass radiance

[burnt pagoda]

i feel like its the latter
im pretty sure garamond can straight up kill you in steel soul while shakra and first sinner dont MISINFORMATION DONT LOOK!!!!!

[near mirage]

no they dont

garmond and zaza dont kill you in steel soul

[burnt pagoda]

oh mb then

[near mirage]

lost garmond does though i believe

[hollow crater]

I have a confession to make
I never fought garmond
I never even found him at that dueling spot, wherever and whenever it might be

[near mirage]

whispering vaults

[burnt pagoda]

ahh

i prob mixed them up

[rocky lotus]

A lot of people miss the garmond and zaza fight

[hybrid flare]

he's not an interesting boss at all so fair enough

[burnt pagoda]

he’s definitely one of the bosses of all time

[hollow crater]

hmm

[sharp slate]

i never fought gourmond and zaza as well without a mod, lmfao played through the game so much, just no reason to go there

[hybrid flare]

I wish there was a genuine reward

[burnt pagoda]

i found out act 2 had missable stuff thankfully so i never missed out on them

[opaque sigil]

it's silksong there's not a genuine reward for anything

[hollow crater]

I probably missed something I don't even know about lol

[burnt pagoda]

conchcutter……..

[hollow crater]

On a side note I like how there's a bunch of things to do that don't account for completion %

[trim estuary]

Except Voltvyrm

[hybrid flare]

Keeping playing

[hollow crater]

So even past 100% there's stuff to do

[sharp slate]

true sadly

give me money damn it

[opaque sigil]

locking pale oil behind the most annoying shit instead of just putting it in the world like pale ore

[hybrid flare]

A collection quest aint that bad

[burnt pagoda]

i liked the chef quest

[opaque sigil]

the rasher sucks

[hybrid flare]

But, NO shard and NO rosaries in gauntlets for ???

[burnt pagoda]

i did the rasher with like

[hybrid flare]

Its super forgiving

[burnt pagoda]

no movement upgrades just raw sprinting

it was really fun

[opaque sigil]

I'm not saying it's hard I'm saying it sucks

[daring basin]

to balance out architect

[rocky lotus]

Rasher isnt too bad if you kill all the enemies before you start but its quite tedious

[hybrid flare]

Its literally a run through the map

[hybrid flare]

Architect's already a slog to use due to the grind

[sharp slate]

after learning about scream skipping in silksong the bosses die even faster xD

[hybrid flare]

iframe through the scream

[burnt pagoda]

avoiding the enemies was actually my favorite part of the quest

[hybrid flare]

And there are several rasher routes yk

[daring basin]

thats my theory why they did that

[spiral briar]

Ok my take on on getting act 3 and the stuff you need to do. I like the wish’s because it really makes you feel the heavy gut punch of everything you built for the towns all for nothing he hard. If we just got to act 3 with out these steps it would no hit the same

[burnt pagoda]

like. i really enjoyed testing my memory of the layout and the speed i can go at with my movement

[opaque sigil]

monster hunter reference or something

[spark anchor]

do you guys find lugoli or rasher harder

i personally found lugoli more difficult

[glad minnow]

Unlocking Act IV
Beat Lost Lace in Act III Abyss—Knight cuts silk tendrils, Hornet escapes, credits roll. Reload: Void sealed, enemies/shrines/haunts gone, abilities removed, Abyss/Deep Docks collapsed. New Citadel routes open.
Sherma seizes Citadel control: bans songs, taxes farms, jails dissenters. Lead resistance to unite factions, storm for revolutionary ending.
Full Sequence
Reload, visit fixed Act III benches (Bone Bottom/Bellhart). Talk wounded messenger—unlocks army commands.
Do faction quests any order from safe spots (Songclave/Greyfield).
Finish Needle Wardens (Threads of Rebellion): Sabotage Cogwork depots, raid Bellhart prison vents, ambush Blasted Steps convoy. Get scouts, anti-armor strikes, factory shortcuts.
Forge Forgers (Molten Revolt, Deep Docks): Redirect lava in halls, disable Wormways engines, defend Shellwood waves. Get traps/catapults/checkpoints.
Sunward Choir (Echoes of Songclaves, Choral Chambers): Recover 4 hymns (tone puzzles), escort Mount Fay, claim songspire (parry guardian). Get heals/rallies/rest zones.
Greyfield Collective (Fields of Defiance): Guard harvests on mounts, duel Hunter's March warden, fortify bases. Get troop moves/supply cuts/escorts.
Unite at Songclave HQ—armies muster cutscene. War of Citadel: Command squads (scout/trap/rally/logistics).
Sieges: Cogwork mechs (strikes), Whiteward patrols (traps), High Halls guards (morale), core breach (supplies cut). Sherma flees to Mount Fay Surface.
Final Ascent: Elevators/lifts/gaps. Boss Sherma Eclipse: Phase 1 dodge/parry beams; Phase 2 break barriers (buffs); Phase 3 Void fusion (nail combos). Twist: Void corrupted him.
Full factions: Full liberation, Sherma redeems. Partial: Losses, bittersweet. NG+ carries upgrades. ~10hrs post-Act III wishes.

[burnt pagoda]

oh my god shut up

[hybrid flare]

Its cool n shit but unintuitive

[spiral briar]

So I think the wish’s did there job

[daring basin]

holy wall of text

[rocky lotus]

My muscle memory from those games always makes me try to shade dash through boss roars lol

[burnt pagoda]

they were about even imo

[glad minnow]

:(

[spark anchor]

ok-tier silkpost

[hearty wren]

F*ck this stupid guy

Shii wrong channel

[glad minnow]

s tier

[burnt pagoda]

wrong game but congrats

[daring basin]

[sharp urchin]

I just did pantheon of pharloom first try 😄 altough shakra, garmond, lost garmond and summoned saviour were missing

[spiral briar]

I genuinely think building a personal connection with the towns and other people really made act three hit hard It feels like I need to save everybody that even if all hope is lost there’s something I can do. And I find that beautiful.

[opaque sigil]

kid named metsu shoryugeki

[spiral briar]

This is probably one of my favorite video game narratives honestly

[hearty wren]

Tnq

[burnt pagoda]

silksong makes me feel things

[hybrid flare]

Yeah, however, it is unintuitive gameplay wise

[burnt pagoda]

we didnt see much of her but i really felt for lace

[rocky lotus]

I need to try rise again

[sharp urchin]

What is a good difficult mod boss?

[daring basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-silksong-dance-hornet-dance-hornet-silksong-gif-3654151901745923854

[hearty wren]

Lost sinner

[burnt pagoda]

garama

[spiral briar]

True, but the fact they pulled a risky doing this forcing us to do this really adds to act through to me, even if the wishes are grueling and seem unnecessary not many games would do something like this

[daring basin]

random gif your welcome

[rapid sparrow]

guys whats the best way to farm a lot of rosaries in the least amount of time possible? i need 1500 rosaries for the last things plus 1000 for other purposes

[sharp urchin]

just curious, is it compatible with godhome mod?

[trim estuary]

NONE. All modded bosses SUCK.

[sharp urchin]

grand reeds

[hybrid flare]

I guess fair enough

[hearty wren]

Ig

[daring basin]

choral chambers, notably grand reeds

[rapid sparrow]

thats a bit slow, only 50 per kill, that would take like a lot of time

[rocky lotus]

Grand reeds + thiefs mark

[opaque sigil]

plenty of games have done it it just sucks

[sharp slate]

it should be, just replaces first sinner pretty sure

[hearty wren]

@Akisha yes it's compatible

[trim estuary]

replaces FS in Act 3*

[hearty wren]

I just checked

[rapid sparrow]

so 2500 : 50 is 500 so 500 grand reed kills and since act three only has one reed in one side that means two reeds total so 100 per run so i gotta go there 250 times, and thats quite bad aint it?

[spiral briar]

Even in act 2 I still remember how upset I was when skull tyrant came stomping in bone bottom and how angry I was of the state of destruction he caused in all my hard work being in done and who he killed if I’m feeling emotions here they did a good job

[rapid sparrow]

even with thiefs mark you gotta go 100 or more times

[sharp urchin]

That is some next level math

[hybrid flare]

If only all of those wishes had these kinds of followups

[subtle skiff]

Yeah it just feels like gameplay padding via fetch quests lol

[hearty wren]

Division is next level math 🤣🤣🤣

[rapid sparrow]

and the runback too, thats quite long way aint it?

[hearty wren]

Lol

[rapid sparrow]

is there maybe anything faster?

[sharp slate]

I guess some bosses you cant scream skip sad

[daring basin]

go through all of CC and kill all the pilgrims and reeds, those long hallways with pilgrims might help

[sharp urchin]

2500 / 50 = 2500 / 10 / 5 = 250 / 5 = 50

[trim estuary]

act 3’s wishes are so unremarkable i can hardly remember any of them

[hybrid flare]

Narratively it makes sense, i can't really see hornet obtaining 3 things to get mcguffin

[subtle skiff]

Sure but its still not fun

[hearty wren]

Wth is the sound

[hybrid flare]

They're mainly boss wishes and the stupid void mass one iirc

[sharp slate]

slowmo go brrr

[opaque sigil]

the void mass hunt is hilariously bad

[hearty wren]

Means we ain't skipping the scream

[trim estuary]

what’s the reward for the void mass i forgor

[rapid sparrow]

still its 50 runs, and that owuld take like 1 or more hours and thats long

[sharp slate]

at lesat it counts void masses retroactively

[opaque sigil]

mask shard iirc

[daring basin]

mask shard...?

[spiral briar]

And look I get it not everybody likes the fetch quest and it can feel like padding I’m just happy it works narratively still and hate. The padding makes it feel like we’ve earned it something we don’t want to do, but we did it anyway anyways. What if team cherry wanted us too feel like annoying and patting to make it more satisfying

[burnt pagoda]

act 3 is simeltaneously some of silksong's best and some of its worst

[subtle skiff]

I would have much prefered way less, but bigger and unique questlines that tell an actual narrative instead of "kill 20 birds so i can give you some shit no one cares about, have fun"

[hearty wren]

I strongly agree

[sharp slate]

this means in theory you can skip savage beast fly scream as well himmm intresting

[hybrid flare]

Its not terrible it's just.. another fetch quest

Silksong needs a qol dlc or mass patch

[untold dune]

team cherry hate fun

[trim estuary]

It’s because they chopped up the game and threw some of the stuff they couldn’t fit in at the end of it

[burnt pagoda]

void hunt inst too bad if you just go through act 3 naturally

[untold dune]

zango,,,

[trim estuary]

TRUE

[subtle skiff]

Yeah imma be real this feels like cope lol, tc just set itself too big of a scope with the wish system and had to fill the list spmehow lol

[rocky lotus]

zango is some of silksongs best work fr

[trim estuary]

At least give all the Hearts their own Memory areas or something

[burnt pagoda]

zango is so peak i love him he's so funny

[opaque sigil]

I miss the days when I assumed the quest system wouldn't be the worst possible scenario of grindy mandatory fetch quests

[rapid sparrow]

i dopnt wanna farm

[quartz gulch]

Grindy?

[hybrid flare]

The fetch quests aren't even bad since most enemies are fun to fight, but quests need more variety

[untold dune]

most of them arent even that bad but the stinkers really stand out

[spiral briar]

I don’t know I guess I don’t mind quest much

[sharp slate]

they let me have fun with skull tyrant at least

[burnt pagoda]

the bell gathering quest..............

[hybrid flare]

What pisses me off is the MANDATORY rosary grind for 100%

Like you HAVE to grind to get everything

[untold dune]

god ikr

[hearty wren]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-skong-sk-gif-9152098084645823068

[quartz gulch]

Rosaries aren‘t an issue ever imo.

[sharp slate]

Casual 10 mask last judge yes (joking ik pantheon mod)

[spiral briar]

Damn no wonder his distant cousin trashed bone bottom

[burnt pagoda]

DA YAH RE YAH

[untold dune]

its not even that far off from what you could max out for last judge (9 masks and 17 spools)

[hearty wren]

Bu ka la reya

[mellow aurora]

@lusty grove IT WAS PLASMIUM TYSM!!!!

[sharp slate]

thats true, you can get all spools act 2 cant you though?

[fiery burrow]

I wish you could use the taunt to cancel screams

[terse cloak]

i still only have 6 masks despite just reaching act 2

[untold dune]

yeah but 2 of them is locked behind grand gate and flea caravan respectively

[hybrid flare]

Gaster ahh

[spiral briar]

For those confused you can get into act 2 with phantom instead and beat last judge later

[sharp slate]

thats right fuck lol

[quartz gulch]

Except for GMS and LL, screams are really not a problem at all.

[terse cloak]

im going for phantom my next act 1 run i hate bilewater so much

[burnt pagoda]

did anyone else do phantom on their first playthrough instead of last judge

[hearty wren]

Phantom

[sharp urchin]

sinners road to phantom

[hybrid flare]

Why gms

[quartz gulch]

What‘s the problem?

[terse cloak]

what i meant oop

[untold dune]

u dont have to enter mist thru bilewater is has a sinners road entrance too lol

[burnt pagoda]

i went through the bilewater entrance accidentally

[hearty wren]

She ain't screams 😭

[terse cloak]

i kinda wanna go through bilewater to beat groal

because that fight gen looks fun to me

[hearty wren]

Genuinely bilewater is a top 5 area

[hybrid flare]

peakwater

[untold dune]

well, youre probably the first person to say this lol

[rancid stag]

top 3*

[terse cloak]

[untold dune]

bilewater is my top 2

[spiral briar]

I beat Phantom my second file then went back to beat last judge directly after ward lol

[quartz gulch]

Cursed

[rocky lotus]

Groal is a decent fight the runback just sucks

[spiral briar]

Because there fun

[burnt pagoda]

bilewater is cool i just fucking hate that mask shard room

[rancid stag]

bilewater is no.1

[terse cloak]

hence we do not die

[untold dune]

my top 4 are mount fay, bilewater, deep docks, choral chambers

[spiral briar]

My top 3 are Sand of Karak mount Fay and Verdinda

[hybrid flare]

Mt fay is good but it's a lil bit of a nothingburger

[quartz gulch]

Runback‘s fine with the right bench.

[burnt pagoda]

welcome back celeste

[terse cloak]

im jusy struggling with the citidel rn cuz im impatient and keep dying

[rocky lotus]

I heavily disagree

[hearty wren]

If a fight ain't enjoyable it automatically is hatd

[untold dune]

i like the vibe 🤷

[rocky lotus]

Huh

[hearty wren]

Unless you use architect's or shaman crest

[quartz gulch]

subjective too

[hearty wren]

Hard*

[rocky lotus]

My favorites are mount fay, choral chambers and greymoor

[spiral briar]

Me too part core is fun too.

[sharp slate]

if godhome is anything like current fights, all the speedrun is gonna be is how many scream skips you can land

[burnt pagoda]

i like cogwork core a lot

[spiral briar]

I also like sand of karak

[quartz gulch]

difficulty is subjective.

[burnt pagoda]

cogwork core and blasted steps are probably my favorites

oh yeah sands of karak too

[terse cloak]

god i hated that fight

[hearty wren]

Perhaps it is indeed

[rapid sparrow]

guys what is the best way to farm rosaries that is not the grand reed method? im in act three

[hybrid flare]

surgeon thingies in whiteward

[spiral briar]

One of my favorite areas the vibe music coral tower it’s All peak!

[terse cloak]

despite dying multiple time i loved blasted steps

[rapid sparrow]

is there any way to farm rosaries greatly without killing enemies?

[hearty wren]

Until the newer patch that area was actually challenging

[neon geyser]

deliveries

[untold dune]

no lol

[terse cloak]

i just have skill issue lol

[untold dune]

oh yeah deliveries ig

[burnt pagoda]

what did the patches change

[hearty wren]

What about the bell home ??

[hearty wren]

Double damage of the worma

[hearty wren]

Worms

[trim estuary]

If you get like Unity Explorer or Cheat Engine yeah

[untold dune]

if u mean crawbell its nice but not very efficient

[burnt pagoda]

ahh

[trim estuary]

Crawfather the best boss in the game on cod

[burnt pagoda]

i barely fell into the worms so i dont think it wouldnt have been that much more difficult for me

[hearty wren]

That's only way without killing enemy so yeah you can't expect much

[spiral briar]

I made this my self lol I don’t know this is my opinion though

[untold dune]

well there is the loam treadmill

[quartz gulch]

Ever time I respawn or bench I kill rosary type enemies, which makes you rich throughout all acts if you do it consistently.
Though Choral Chambers is an absolute goldmine even without the Grand Reeds.

[hearty wren]

Nahh that's way too good

[rapid sparrow]

oh shit the fleatopia one is gonna be hard

[worldly umbra]

I FINALLY FINISHED THE DOC WITH THE TRUE ENDING AND EVERYTHING https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PVDnpEit-CK5QHdydI2uXfbNrb7yk-bJ-lqGcZ1CGLw/edit?usp=sharing

[spiral briar]

Choral chambers is like easily one of the best places to farm Rosrises

[quartz gulch]

From style, Crawfather beats every other boss to the point I can‘t even mind how the bossfight actually works.

[worldly umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[quartz gulch]

Bye

[sharp slate]

Sending to a friend ignore this

[hybrid flare]

Karmelita tops every boss btw

[signal spoke]

so uh

do we have any info on the dlc or is it still radio silent

[worldly umbra]

oh you here

[untold dune]

its releasing tomorrow (truth)

[burnt pagoda]

any seth fans in chat

[rapid sparrow]

ookay the fleatopia one is impossible

[hearty wren]

The best places to farm rosaries in each act
Act 1 - either the moss home grind area or the area before and below lace fight
Act 2 - entirety of choral chambers
Act 3 - white ward killing the big scissors guys

[signal spoke]

don't get my hopes up man.. leave me dreams be

[worldly umbra]

ME MEMEE ME ME MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[rapid sparrow]

and i jhate myself liek why is this ghame such a capitalism centered game

[burnt pagoda]

I LOVE SETH RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

[rocky lotus]

Its releasing now (like right fucking now) (truth)

[spiral briar]

Gurrs been real quiet on the bellhart washboard since this dropped

[worldly umbra]

IM LITERALLY MAKING A GAME ABOUT HIM THATS WHAT THAT DOC IS ABOUT

[untold dune]

lowk in act 3 its high halls for me

[sharp slate]

there is a skip karmalita gaunlet mod but no skip crawfather gaunlet mod so sad

[burnt pagoda]

on god.......

[velvet cape]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[burnt pagoda]

ill read this later if i remember LOL

[velvet cape]

All roads lead to witch crest slop

[worldly umbra]

the plot twist and combat system are peak trust

[spiral briar]

Craw father does not NEED one it’s the Court of. Craws it needs the gauntlet .

[hearty wren]

But enemies are sparsely located and the whiteward is faster and efficient

[hearty wren]

Well well well

[sharp slate]

I neeeeeed to pratice the scream skip, going through the gaunlet every time is gonna make me cry

[rapid sparrow]

the thing is the enemies in this game drop little to no rosaries and after time the quests run out a

[hearty wren]

Does pantheon doesn't have gauntlet??

That's the whole part of the fight

[hybrid flare]

enemies in gauntlets should drop rosaries

[rapid sparrow]

but there are not much gaunlets either

[sharp slate]

the pantheon does have the gaunlet every fight hqas the gaunlet

[spiral briar]

I don’t know I just like the minons since it makes sense and the title Card Says Court of Craws

[spiral briar]

Yes it has it

[hybrid flare]

The high halls gaunt would probably drop around 400 to 500 rosaries

[rapid sparrow]

but im in act three

[hybrid flare]

Or more depending on how many rosaries the choir clappers can drop

[hybrid flare]

ya but you wouldnt need as many rosaries

[balmy topaz]

Woah dude

[spiral briar]

Pantheon uses all gauntlets Groal brood mother etc unless you’re having that explicitly removes them

[rapid sparrow]

i need like 2500 rosaries for the things like last tools and the spool upgrades

[velvet cape]

Why would you need that many rosaries in act 3

[regal isle]

flaunt your wealth over the voidstrung pilgrims

[velvet cape]

You shouldve got them in act 2

[burnt pagoda]

i did most things in act 2 i kind of wish i got the act 3 difficulty spike experience

[velvet cape]

"Spike"

[hearty wren]

The first gauntlet of act 3 is indeed the toughest

[spiral briar]

Also am pretty sure The Court of Craws is a boss Since there’s a title card for them before you even fight craw father which is sick

[velvet cape]

Enemies get more hp and deal 2 damage

[hearty wren]

If plasmified zango is then court is definitely

[tight viper]

Sub-area

[spiral briar]

So yeah, I consider the Court a boss

[velvet cape]

Crawfather you mean

[rapid sparrow]

WAIT THE CRAWBELL

[spiral briar]

It has a boss has a boss card, not a area card

[sharp slate]

time to see if chef is scream skipable

[rapid sparrow]

i almost forgot it generates rosaries AUTOMATICALLY

[velvet cape]

Court is the area where the boss is

[burnt pagoda]

the silk drain was also pretty rough

[rapid sparrow]

now ill just wait... a long time

[velvet cape]

Bingo

[tight viper]

Cyndril is a sub area

[rapid sparrow]

thats the way

[velvet cape]

Dont get hit

[sharp slate]

ph waot chef doesnt stun you with scream nevermind

[tight viper]

Same style of title card

[burnt pagoda]

ok

[tight viper]

Court is a sub-area

[minor sparrow]

What 1% are you missing? P4?

[spiral briar]

court of Craws is all the Craws you kill. And plus places like trail of fools treated it like an area with the title card in the center. The court of Craws uses the title card in the corner meaning it’s a boss

[rapid sparrow]

it is full after an avarage time of 160 minutes... that is not so good of an idea afterall huh

[velvet cape]

Trial of the fools

[worldly umbra]

the champion of fools would never miss something like that

[strange knot]

I just ruined and saved statue skip the funniest way possible

[hearty wren]

Trial of fools is genuinely harder than p4

[glacial kelp]

nah we're crazy

[velvet cape]

So the moss bugs moss mother summons are bosses too?

[burnt pagoda]

i actually didnt like the colosseum in hk

it wasnt that hard i just thought it was boring

[glacial kelp]

what did you think of like hhg

[rapid sparrow]

300 seconds for 5-10 rosaries