sk-discussion

[weak depot]

Sealed vessel 😭😭

[civic snow]

@weak depot now it's better

[timid plinth]

hornet might be a silkworm, guys..

[finite swift]

WUAYT

[finite swift]

I just wanna ask, have you ever tried playing Cogwork dancers?

[civic snow]

Yea it's the sealed vessel

[weak depot]

yuss

[civic snow]

No i haven't

[weak depot]

She might be a spider

[timid plinth]

but spiders have 7 legs

[finite swift]

Where does the 7th go

[timid plinth]

i dunno

im not a spider

[finite swift]

what if you are one

[civic snow]

@finite swift

Learned the melody just now xd

[finite swift]

YOOOO this is so cool

[weak depot]

best yaoi theme

[timid plinth]

am i defective spider

that makes me only have 4 limbs

what if every animal is a spider

they are just missing limbs

[finite swift]

I want to make a DUMB joke but it so dumb and it only works if your a guy

[gloomy prism]

This is unfortunate

[civic snow]

Here's your first phase cogwork dancers right hand only @finite swift

[coarse leaf]

did we get any crumb of info after sea of sorrow trailer ?

[vivid raptor]

No

[gloomy prism]

No but moss mother will get nerfed bc players think the boss is too hard

[vivid raptor]

There IS a tower

[coarse leaf]

wym moss mother

[vivid raptor]

Hmmm

[coarse leaf]

thats the cradle

[vivid raptor]

Very

[gloomy prism]

Tbh they need to either buff phantom or nerf last judge, both bosses should be similar in difficulty but last judge is atleast two times as hard as phantom.

[tidal glade]

The challenge for phantom is reaching there in the first place but the bench in the organ kinda makes up for it

[sharp urchin]

Last judge isn't really hard either, she is slow asf and attacks aren't too hard to dodge

[gloomy prism]

I know, imo every boss in the game needs a buff except first lace bell beast skarrsinger karmelita and seth...

[sharp urchin]

nah, that'd make it painful for new players. Would be fire if TC added a hard mode better than steel soul ngl

[gloomy prism]

True but they should still keep steel soul

[sharp urchin]

Yeah, but steel soul isn't really a fun hard mode imo, it doesn't add challenge, just forces caution

[gloomy prism]

It adds summoned savior

[sharp urchin]

afaik it's an ez boss

[vale whale]

silk soul come back

[sharp urchin]

Too few messages

[gloomy prism]

Most people just play steel soul bc of the achievements i think, a lot of them also just quit out if theyre low on health which a player who really wants to play steel soul wouldnt do

[sharp urchin]

I am doing a geniune steel soul run rn, no savescumming or architect bs builds, and it isn't even hard, just annoying and stressful

[gloomy prism]

At what point in the game are you?

[sharp urchin]

Soon gonna enter act 3, killed gms, 9 masks

act 3 arena will be hell though

[gloomy prism]

What crest are u using

[sharp urchin]

Evolved hunter

[gloomy prism]

Prob second best crest for steel soul (best is wanderer imo but fully evolved hunters good too)

[sharp urchin]

yeah hunter is really fun too, I ender up shredding gms without even trying by just using hunter + circlet

[gloomy prism]

Youre using circlet in steel soul? I think thats too risky but ok

[sharp urchin]

I only used circlete for gms since she has no contact damage

[gloomy prism]

Oh yea makes sense

[sharp urchin]

My build for most stuff is the dice, shell satchel, belt, injector band, longclaw, fractured mask, plasmium phial and red tool of choice, think this build is decent?

[blissful rampart]

What about Architect considering it trivializes most boss fights?

[blissful rampart]

Granted it does kinda make the game no skill

[gloomy prism]

Welp unlocking architect takes a little bit too long

[sharp urchin]

Architect devours shards and lowkey feels like cheating imo

[blissful rampart]

Would definitely use in the High Halls' gauntlet and for Groal tho

[gloomy prism]

Groal is easy

[sharp urchin]

HHA isn't hard at all since it doesn't really give anything, there's no reason not to wait until you have 3 needle upgrades and 9 masks

[blissful rampart]

The gauntlet was the issue for me, atleast in my first playthrough

[blissful rampart]

Fair enough

[gloomy prism]

That gauntlet took me longer than every boss in sk

[sharp urchin]

I got to the gauntlet without needle upgrades because I missed the npc, imagine my pain after seeing the last wave

[blissful rampart]

Same, I eventually just gave up and used a broken tool combo to take out Groal using Hunter's Crest I think

[gloomy prism]

But i also only had one needle upgrade and didnt knew i could despawn the silk stealing enemies

[blissful rampart]

Same

[gloomy prism]

You cant miss that npc if you like exploring tbh

[copper hedge]

imagine if u can do neck snap after doing the jailbreak sequence in The Slab

[blissful rampart]

I didn't beat the high hall's gauntlet until after getting Witch Crest, it made it so much easier

[sharp urchin]

I love exploring, I always thought I entered that room, and went right by it 10 times before googling "where tf are dmg upgrades is silksong" and crying in the corner of my room for 15 minutes afterwards (I saw Groal and HHA without dmg upgrades, almost beat them too)

[gloomy prism]

Oh ok thats unfortunate

[blissful rampart]

Fr

[stable pilot]

https://youtu.be/2clUY-OsCpY?si=0cWLYvQ6HC_N8znc
rate this from 1-10

[gloomy prism]

Second best cuphead song, best one is one hell of a time

[stable pilot]

second best is high noon hoopla

this is the best

one hell of a time is 4th

[gloomy prism]

What boss is that

[stable pilot]

behing zeppelin

[stable pilot]

cow

i forgot the name

[gloomy prism]

That one isnt good imo

[stable pilot]

everyone has opinions and i shall respect even though i highly disagree

[worthy stream]

I have silksong on my switch but I want to try modding it by buying it on PC, would it be a waste of money to buy it again? Is modding the game worth it for buying it for twice the price?

[gloomy prism]

Bro silksong is worth atleast three times its price just buy it again

[unkempt steeple]

Lace just lets the cursed and regular endings happen, I wonder what happens to lace after the regular ending

[earnest drift]

probably dies in both

i'm pretty sure she gets up for snared silk because enough time has passed for her to recover from her injuries

[earnest drift]

weaver queen hornet would kill her

[unkempt steeple]

Why?

[dull willow]

Huh

[unkempt steeple]

Didn!t hornet already sympathise with lace after lace 2

[earnest drift]

yes, but she thought she had killed her

in the weaver queen ending i think she'd finish the job, especially since she's not herself anymore

[unkempt steeple]

Oh true

[earnest drift]

being able to play dead so convincingly to the point of tricking hornet is really something

[copper hedge]

holdon. does the position of where green prince appears in cogwork core (or the place where the cogwork dancers were) changes where you enter?

[cold trellis]

I don’t think so

[unkempt steeple]

No

[copper hedge]

why he at the left

wtf

[unkempt steeple]

Bc he dragged the corpse up

[cold trellis]

He is always at the left??

[copper hedge]

idk i saw him first under that room

[unkempt steeple]

You sure?

[copper hedge]

im sure...
it was in the room under that.
was it different on first release?
man idk anymore

[unkempt steeple]

I've never seen a screenshot of him under the threefold melody room

[vivid raptor]

Reminder Verdania can regrow, we see clovers growing around the dead bodies of the princes

Verdania come back act 4?

[earnest drift]

yes please

[vivid raptor]

And we can say the Sister of the Void + Mr Mushroom ending is the canon ending for now

[earnest drift]

and i want lifeblood infection and a withered far fields and a liquidated citadel and a restored bellhart

and city of steel and pharloom bay and stillwater

[vivid raptor]

Sands of Karak can also return to the Coral Gorge with care

[earnest drift]

also lace finds out about phantom's death

[vivid raptor]

Same with Blasted Steps to Coral Steps

[vivid raptor]

Act 4 then

Hunters March collapsing too

Karmelita is DEAD

Bilewater can also be fixed

The Citadel is dead

We saved Lace and GMS has died in the void

We should get an act 4 where the void vanishes and we see a new pharloom

[earnest drift]

all that's left to protect and rebuild from is bellhart and songclave

lace would become a protector again

[vivid raptor]

Since the void is gone, I think we can get a Bellhart expansion

[exotic cedar]

What are we gonna fight then

[earnest drift]

but she'd be like that batman who breaks peoples' spines for littering

[vivid raptor]

And maybe Songclave moves out the Citadel

[vivid raptor]

We still have a Plasmium infection

[earnest drift]

she sees a pilgrim jaywalking on the bellway and she cuts off all their limbs to teach them crime doesn't pay

[vivid raptor]

And DLCs

[vivid raptor]

Lmao

[exotic cedar]

What could you do for the plasmium infection

[vivid raptor]

It could expand to other regions

[earnest drift]

fight that lifeblood being we saw in the void

[exotic cedar]

That would be cool

[vivid raptor]

In HK?

With the tons of eyes

I think its a fitting boss for this DLC

[earnest drift]

something something they overpower the shade lord due to having synergy with the void

the knight finally gets cooked

[exotic cedar]

No more hype moments and aura

[vivid raptor]

What could we see for DLCs?

[exotic cedar]

City of steel

[vivid raptor]

Verdania regrowth?

[jolly yew]

i silk my song

[vivid raptor]

Cool

[earnest drift]

i want to tackle city of steel and go through a kingdom that isn't infected or haunted, our enemies are voluntarily working under a malicious rule

i need to sleep now goodnight

[jolly yew]

as of rn the only dlc in my head is the deep waters

[vivid raptor]

Yep

[dull willow]

lol does anyone have info on dlc release?

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-no-limit-to-the-glaze-flight-riding-ftc-glazed-donut-gif-13467296479651443764

[jolly yew]

theres none

[vivid raptor]

We are getting a boss rush similar to godhome

[jolly yew]

only that its 2026

[dull willow]

Unfort

[rocky lotus]

Probably not

[vivid raptor]

I hope Silksong gets more DLCs than Hollow Knight

[jolly yew]

why we slandering my favourite moth

this is clearly lace propaganda

[vivid raptor]

We definitely are

[earnest drift]

nah i still love her she just sucks compared to lost lace

[copper hedge]

5 dlcs

10 dlcs

[rocky lotus]

Why would they add the boss rush in the first dlc????

[vivid raptor]

I mean in the future

[copper hedge]

multiplayer dlc: interweaven

[exotic cedar]

Lost lame

[rocky lotus]

Ohh

[jolly yew]

absolute radiance made me shiver in fear
Lost lace on steel soul made me have plot armor

[daring heart]

Cause funny? And hk players are too cracked

[dull willow]

I’m ngl my main issue with the game is that it was too easy

[jolly yew]

subjective perspective

[earnest drift]

hk was pretty easy on first release too

[dull willow]

That’s valid

[storm warren]

So a few weeks ago I talked abt beating conchflies and someone said oh wait till you see raging. Conchfly and dont tell him abt raging conchfpy well I just beat him easiest fight ever the same goes for savage beast fly

[rocky lotus]

Dlc is likely going to make it alot harder

[arctic epoch]

hard agree

[dull willow]

I wish it was less casual though, anybody could play ts

[vivid raptor]

The Alchemist will definitely be dead in act 4

[exotic cedar]

True

[rocky lotus]

Silksong is anything but casual the generap publics reaction to the game proves that

[jolly yew]

at its core its not a souls game though
for harder bosses u got modding

[vivid raptor]

Modding will definitely peak after all DLCs are out

As well as challenge runs

[thorn grotto]

Coral Gorge isn't coming back 💔

[daring heart]

Tc should just add a shaw mode that reenables all 2 damage

[vivid raptor]

Let me hope

[jolly yew]

looking for pale court 2.0

[dull willow]

ppl found it too difficult?

[thorn grotto]

I could see it in a memory but I don't think we're getting more than that

[daring heart]

Silk citadel

[vivid raptor]

Pale Court did say something about Silksong

[rocky lotus]

Yes very much so

[dull willow]

oh ;-;

[vivid raptor]

Concept map for Pharloom Bay and the Lifeblood Spire

[jolly yew]

🤯

[daring heart]

Cause moorwing, last judge idk

[vivid raptor]

The devs of Pale Court i mean

[jolly yew]

yeah ik

[thorn grotto]

Honestly I'd rather have a Voltnest expansion than Coral Gorge

[exotic cedar]

We just need more exploring in act 3

[dull willow]

I’m ngl my favorite mod to date has been the double enemies, genuine peak gameplay, feel like I’m playing infernum terraria

[vivid raptor]

Make an act 4

[thorn grotto]

I think the spire + a few other maps are going to be separated from the rest of the map and only accessible through the submarine

[exotic cedar]

Mehhh

[vivid raptor]

We save lace and move on to the 4th act

[exotic cedar]

Act 3 needs more content

[vivid raptor]

No more screaming from evil mother silk

[exotic cedar]

Most bosses suck

[thorn grotto]

Maybe it'll be like the tram in the original game - you can technically get to them without the submarine but it's super inconvenient

[vivid raptor]

I'd rather get an act 4, act 3 sucks

Everyone is dead

[dull willow]

why I got no perms anymore, I can’t vc, send images, anything

I used to be able to a couple months ago

[daring heart]

Cause admin dw spam

[vivid raptor]

Read server announcements

Silksong has amazing platforming potential

[dull willow]

thank you 🙏

[thorn grotto]

we're going to get a path of pain equivalent aren't we 🥀

[daring heart]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xVPdM8nQxm8
Agreed

[vivid raptor]

Lifeblood Spire climb

[dull willow]

bro WE all love groal

[rocky lotus]

Whos we

[thorn grotto]

I think I'd end it all

[daring heart]

Yes we

[dull willow]

YOU and ME

[thorn grotto]

Path of Pain in Silksong would be hell

[vivid raptor]

It would be actually fun

[daring heart]

Mr mushroom was a teaser of the potential

[thorn grotto]

I feel like I'd just die in real life

[vivid raptor]

We have Clawline, and Silksoar

[short kiln]

Is that ori?

[dull willow]

call me crazy but silksong parkour killed me more times than getting to the arena I had to fight in

[daring heart]

Goodbye horizontal platforms, all will be vertical now

[vivid raptor]

Who?

[rocky lotus]

No its silksong

[copper hedge]

pressing sprint while wall clinging lowkey looks like the Spider gamemode in GD

[vivid raptor]

What would happen to the citadel in act 4?

[short kiln]

Where is that?

[rocky lotus]

Cut content

[short kiln]

Ohh

[short kiln]

Gaem

[dull willow]

what’s ur guys’ fastest speedrun any%

[vivid raptor]

Hmmm

[earnest drift]

45 hours

[vivid raptor]

Let me see which is newer

[copper hedge]

probably mostly empty but existing. all previously haunted bugs that were dead will just drop dead. while the residents that now reside there will be its new residents

[daring heart]

[short kiln]

2 30? 2 50

[copper hedge]

they can start cleaning it up

[short kiln]

Somewhere around there

[dull willow]

That’s not bad fr

[copper hedge]

the gulags???

[raw pawn]

No news about sea of sorrow?

[short kiln]

I have a run where I'm fully cursed for the whole thing

I need to do the arena

[dull willow]

I can’t stand witch crest

[copper hedge]

Sea of Tomorrows

[dull willow]

😭

[cerulean sable]

Tool that gives Hornets needle with serrated edges which adds bleeding damage

[raw pawn]

Sea of sorrow yesterday

[dull willow]

I’m a wanderer main

[daring heart]

https://youtu.be/9UCPm7refQo

[arctic epoch]

lame ass wanderer crest

[short kiln]

It's not that bad

[dull willow]

The delay between attacks hurts me mentally

[spark anchor]

i knew they sounded familiar

[arctic epoch]

it's a skilled crest after all

[raw pawn]

Nah I like using wanderer in exploration but I personally use hunter or beast in bosses

[daring heart]

Hey society needs to rebuild, so probably the civil war era

[arctic epoch]

learn attack cancel

[copper hedge]

wait that makes sense

[short kiln]

That isn't that bad of a thing

[dull willow]

I like wanderer crest cuz of no delay on attacks

[raw pawn]

I just think the pogo of witch is kinda weird to get used to

[arctic epoch]

if only Wanderer required more skill to use
Wanderer suckass

[dull willow]

Wanderer does require skill

easy to learn, hard to master

[short kiln]

Tbh, all of them do if you don't understand them

[arctic epoch]

not much compared to many crest tho

[short kiln]

It's the HK moveset so most know it

[dull willow]

I never played hk lol

[short kiln]

Play it

[arctic epoch]

i mean, every crest is hard to master
there is only "Which one is harder to master"

[copper hedge]

definitely accessible via the room where Shakra is in Bilewater

[daring heart]

You are overqualified for the tutorial now

Might be too easy

[vivid raptor]

It would more likely need a submersible

[dull willow]

My ranking of skill is like
beast
Witch
Hunter/wanderer
architect
Reaper
Shaman

[copper hedge]

i mean like first time going to Pharloom Bay. probably via that damaged door which will probably be replaced as a breakable one

[arctic epoch]

why Shaman so low..? And why is Hunter so low and in the same ranking as Wanderer?

[vivid raptor]

Like Verdania?

[wary drum]

"Look at that the Sea! Of course its full of Sorrow, don't you see the state of it?"

[dull willow]

Diagonal pogo dash for iframes is such a free cheese method to save urself, that’s the only reason

[copper hedge]

yeah, but once the dlc drops.

[raw pawn]

Why don't you just use your favorite crest and ignore what people say here

[arctic epoch]

hmm, how is it a cheese tho? I mean, Witch and Beast also has cheese, even Shaman can do it

[copper hedge]

wanderer is good for tight spike pogo parkour

[raw pawn]

(I still think witch pogo is kinda weird to get used to tho)

[dull willow]

It’s not exactly a “cheese” but when I played hunter, I just abused it and it gave me an out on a lot of attacks

[copper hedge]

do u guys even backflip in the game

[dull willow]

I got true ending on double enemies mod and still dunno how to backflip 😭

[arctic epoch]

okay, then why is Shaman so low?

[copper hedge]

while sprinting, switch direction and immediately jump

[raw pawn]

You mean when you are sprinting and suddenly go backwards?

[dull willow]

I actually didn’t play shaman much, it just seemed easy for the 30 minutes I used it, take my word with a grain of salt on that one

[copper hedge]

yea

[raw pawn]

Yeah I love doing that

[copper hedge]

backflip kinda lower than a long jump

[arctic epoch]

your perspective of skill is diluted
but i am not here to correct you

[copper hedge]

i wish it was a bit higher

[dull willow]

I mean, I’d say I’m a pretty good silksong player, but it’s just my opinion lol

[raw pawn]

You actually have to use that backflip to do mt fay act 1

That part where you have to climb the slide

[copper hedge]

oh i didnt go there

i just went to another cave

i should try that

[arctic epoch]

are you tho? i mean, i don't know how your gameplay look like

[copper hedge]

ive pretty much used that driftlin as a free silk source for binding

[raw pawn]

That goddamn delivery quest that wants you to send supplies to fleatopia

Had to do it to get some fast rosaries

[manic schooner]

and double bosses

[warped lily]

does doing the deliveries do anything

[manic schooner]

yes

if you do couriers rasher you get a pale oil

the rest is just a bunch of rosaries

[warped lily]

oh welp i done that

[mellow totem]

guys why the hell is the bench in sinners road with shakra not working

[cunning geode]

you gotta fix it

investigate more of the room it is in

[mellow totem]

ohh

[velvet cape]

Theres a breakable wall at the top left of the room

[tranquil aurora]

Grand mommy silk am I right

[coarse leaf]

apart from rosaries, you do get half a "quest point" which are needed for silk and soul quest to show up
And, least important of all, the wish shows up in your completed wishes tab if you care (I care, for example)

[velvet cape]

I had to look it up and im sure most did on their first playthrough

[coarse leaf]

nah I found it on my own
though I certainly though at first that the bench was a troll

[velvet cape]

Im glad you did

[acoustic jackal]

[mellow totem]

bro im gonna die to the parkour istg if i die

[velvet cape]

You got this chief

[wary storm]

https://tenor.com/view/die-roblox-spongebob-vetex-gif-23528961

[velvet cape]

Me

[mellow totem]

i died

[wary storm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/joy-tears-i-used-to-pray-for-these-times-YXCfusJYIUUpMTeqKX

[raw pawn]

Queen's egg makes Styx grow 2 silkeaters max instead of 1

[wary storm]

what was the location tho

[cunning geode]

we dont read on discord

[wary storm]

oh sinners road

[dull willow]

I mean, my best speedrun is like 1:20. I beat the game on double enemies mod, 100% steelsoul. I’m not pro but I definitely think I’m decent 😭

[wary storm]

gl runbacking from the dirtmouth

[inland ravine]

hello silksong chat

how's everyone

[cunning geode]

all the way from hallownest to pharloom, what a runback

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/den-o-momotaros-coffee-kamen-rider-den-o-den-liner-gif-532985018592948588

[mellow totem]

nvm the runback isnt too hard

[cunning geode]

workin, listenin to music

[inland ravine]

hey wombat :D

how nice :D

[cunning geode]

hiya

[inland ravine]

have a star while listening and working :D

[cunning geode]

thankies

[inland ravine]

no prob :D

[cunning geode]

https://youtu.be/jaf7bTVgjGg have a spin on my jukebox

[inland ravine]

woah heavy metal

ts is peak

[cunning geode]

this album took me a few listens to appreciate

its one of those where the catchy parts take a while to process instead of coming at you in your face

your mileage may vary...

[inland ravine]

nice!! :D

[raw pawn]

Yk a benchless run (not on steel soul) sounds kinda fun

Oh right you have to sit on the diving bell bench fu-

[grand adder]

GIVE ME MY IMAGE PERMS BACK

[inland ravine]

bruh

[grand adder]

Its not fair

[cunning geode]

you can make an exception if its mandatory... unless you can find a way to skip it 👹

[grand adder]

Just cuz i got muted

[raw pawn]

Dude just send 300 messages again it's not that hard

[worldly basin]

mane i just got to last judge

did the runback really have to be that long for the final boss of act 1

[grand adder]

Yada yada. I have life alright. I dont just talk on discord

[rocky lotus]

Yes

[raw pawn]

[grand adder]

Oh do that do this

[cunning geode]

you may find later on that practicing this runback helps you for something else

[raw pawn]

[grand adder]

I legit have nothing to talk about

[raw pawn]

[grand adder]

✌️

[raw pawn]

The messages you sent rn count in the 300 btw

[grand adder]

Doesnt prove anything doe

[arctic epoch]

are we genuinely complaining about the 300 messages cap?

[raw pawn]

I love this emoji

[arctic epoch]

lemme introduce you to a more ragebait one: " "

[raw pawn]

[cunning geode]

ive always got weird metal falling out of my pockets, feel free to ask for recommendations whenever

[barren dew]

Hi

[raw pawn]

Howdy

[inland ravine]

thanks

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/hermitcraft-minecraft-ethoslab-etho-ethos-lab-gif-379032295450934914

[odd marsh]

YOO GNG I JSUT BEAT PHANTOM

it was such a fun fight

died thrice tho

havent beat last judge yet

[raw pawn]

Oh thanks for introducing me to this emoji

[odd marsh]

i got parry

[cunning geode]

i wish it was used more often

the emoji

[odd marsh]

lets see now where do i go

[long relic]

am I the only pshycopath that didn't use maps for 2/3s of silksong

[rotund stag]

everyone who plays silksong is a psycopath

[long relic]

yeah just asking if im the only player

[rotund stag]

definitely not

[long relic]

silksong mapless is more fun

[rotund stag]

i've seen people late act to who only had like, greymoor and far fields

[long relic]

I didnt get a quill until tormented trobio

[raw pawn]

If you didn't buy a quill yet go grab one from trobbio

Oh you already got it

[cunning geode]

if only

[rotund stag]

yeah honestly i did psycopaths dirty on this one

[long relic]

ngl I wonder how hard silksongs p5 is going to be

I hope the bosses are buffed into olbivion

[unkempt steeple]

Getting better at the flea games... first tried seth's record this time

[inland ravine]

thank goodness i'm not

[short kiln]

Cool

[unkempt steeple]

Honestly gonna leave juggle for last

Dodge is kinda annoying but kinda boring sometimes

[agile cipher]

Dude, groal is so easy if you have either curve claw or the conch cutter
I mean, he's already easy, but with those he's a joke

[odd marsh]

uh can i send a link

its a medal link, will i be punished for sending it

[long relic]

ngl groal is overhated

[odd marsh]

https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight-silksong/clips/m89o2x24PpUCXtH4F?invite=cr-MSx3d1AsNDk5MTc1NTQ5

[long relic]

the runback isnt even that bad if you find the obvious bench

[mellow totem]

guys does the juice thing in sinner road the thin that makes ur silk green does it make u take double dmg or smth\

[odd marsh]

no ur silk gets eaten away

[rotund stag]

the juice? from OFF?

[long relic]

no but it takes up a heal

[odd marsh]

u take the same amount of dmg, the bile power

[rotund stag]

https://tenor.com/view/off-game-off-judge-flabbergasted-gif-17049821162434398964

[odd marsh]

I REACHED CITADEL WITHOUGHT JUDGE YAY

wtf

why is lace talking to me

holy hornet is roasting her

[mellow totem]

bro cuz istg i healed 3 masks to 4 then that big guy with the chain in sinner road like one shot me with 4 masks

[wary storm]

now reach citadel without killing anyone

[unkempt steeple]

Okay! Didn't first try dodge but I think it only took me like 4 tries and all of them early fails so I can say it was warm up...

[rotund stag]

we have to get some more screen time for one of the most important characters of the game

[rotund stag]

reach citadel without breathing

[wary storm]

was cut out btw 🫃

[unkempt steeple]

Reach act 3 in act 1

[true lodge]

what video should I make

[long relic]

the p5 of silksong is either going to be lightwork or really hard

[odd marsh]

HORNET SAYS SHE HAS SEEN GODS FALL, HK REFRENCE?

[wary storm]

reach act 5 without killing moth mother

[odd marsh]

ts is so hype

[unkempt steeple]

Hornet is a godseeker theory

[rotund stag]

moth mother?

[wary storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1472350221341036645/20260214_225336.gif

[unkempt steeple]

Radience

[agile cipher]

That bench is not obvious in the slightest, it's a good exploration test, but it isn't obvious, at all
Also, even still the run back is the longest in the game, with it having like 3 big rooms, while the second longest just has 1

[true lodge]

I am proffesional in that

[wary storm]

mot moter

[rocky lotus]

this is just because team cherry are lazy devs who make terrible games

[rotund stag]

team cherry really hates mothers

[wary storm]

true

lazy greedy devs

[unkempt steeple]

Tbf being a mom as a bug sucks

[long relic]

last judge??? also this is how some bosses make up for their lack of difficulty

[rotund stag]

tbf being a bug sucks

[true lodge]

done

[unkempt steeple]

Idk the fleas seem pretty happy

[agile cipher]

Last judge you can evade literally all enemies in the way and it takes less than a minute, groal has a lot more than that, while also having the gauntlet

[wary storm]

hill eater

[rocky lotus]

i remember once when i was walking down the street in australia and ari gibson came up and picked up my dad shaked all of the pennies out of his pockets, stole them and ran away

[odd marsh]

died to last judge twice decided to go explore more, and then somehow ended up in act 2

[rotund stag]

why so green

[next tendon]

I 100% the game i will miss it :(

[wary storm]

same happened to me idk what to do atp

[long relic]

aint no way buddy went all the way through sinnersroad and bilewater

[true lodge]

it's a vild verdanian grass eater

wild

[wary storm]

SEA OF SORROW COMING AT 41TH FEBRUARY

[odd marsh]

i skipped bile water, i found a short cut adn the top left area and then went thru the mist, then fought phantom

[next tendon]

Bruh

[rotund stag]

grass eater, more like grss eater

[long relic]

tell that to Mr. Aimbot

[odd marsh]

then i shit talked lace and fucked her guards up

[true lodge]

but seriously, what video would be actually entertaining

[odd marsh]

should i use threadstorm or parry

[next tendon]

parry

threadstorm is for gauntlets

[long relic]

unless you are in an earlier version parry

[odd marsh]

u... sure??

[long relic]

threadstorm got nerfed into oblivion

[rotund stag]

silksong pixel ranking

[odd marsh]

alr

[worldly umbra]

i want a bench in SoS like that one queens gardens bench like this

[wary storm]

take treadstorm

[odd marsh]

what version is threadstorm still good?

[long relic]

like any version before threadstorm got nerfed

[odd marsh]

idk when it got nerfed

[rotund stag]

benches? in silksong? don't make me laugh

[agile cipher]

Threadstorm is for everything, it's usable literally everywhere, even nerfed it's still good
Tho, parry is indeed better if you are comfortable with the timing

[odd marsh]

im in 1.0.29315

[rocky lotus]

sea of sorrow will have no benches

[true lodge]

are we deadahh

[rotund stag]

where would you put pixel number 957859

[odd marsh]

bet the sea is made of the tears of the players

[long relic]

yeah its nerfed

[true lodge]

a++-+

[odd marsh]

alr, i downlaoded i think last year november or december

[worldly umbra]

rate my controls

[rocky lotus]

the whole game was designed to harvest the tears of players so tc could extend their lifespan

[long relic]

ehhh maybe

[rotund stag]

honestly for me it goes in lasagna

[wary storm]

6-7/10

[agile cipher]

I literally don't understand why people say that threastorm is bad after the nerf, it's still a great skill that you get super early, and can do a lot of work in the right moment
Might not be as good as it once wa, yeah, but it's not bad

[unkempt steeple]

First tried seth's score on juggle! Juggle feels so much more stressful than the other two idk why, anyways now I have EVERYTHING on my pc and playstation's main save files

[true lodge]

I will make a videoio about Zote

[rotund stag]

because it's the silksong community

[odd marsh]

i found out if we spam the button it goes for longer

[odd marsh]

make a before and after edit of zote

[worldly umbra]

the circle

[wary storm]

harpoon on the middle mouse button sounds lowk bad

[long relic]

people hate runbacks a bit too much they are normally very easy (besides last judge and Mr.Aimbot)
and the time you have to wait gives you a break from constantly fighting the boss

[unkempt steeple]

Silksong community would you play a single player game how you want

[wary storm]

i'd rebind it on q

[rotund stag]

you can use him to wax a latter

[rocky lotus]

who tf is mr aimbot

[odd marsh]

runbacks is the defination of metreovanias T-T

[wary storm]

or 4-5 mouse button

[rotund stag]

silksong community when you play the game

[unkempt steeple]

Last judge's runback is easy ngl...

[verbal steeple]

every runback is easy and fun

[long relic]

yeah just Mr.Aimbot finds new ways to kill me everytime

[unkempt steeple]

You sprint past him

[rotund stag]

that's subjective but ok

[odd marsh]

yea it was so easy that i ran all the way to the mist and killed phantom

[rocky lotus]

runbacks arent fun in any game

[long relic]

Istg this guy is in faze clan

[verbal steeple]

i mean yeah.

[worldly umbra]

can someone make a map in architect like this ( im gonna finish it trust )

[unkempt steeple]

I would NOT take bilewater over last judge

[long relic]

then I hit his hitbox or I get sniped from 30 miles away

[rotund stag]

i personally do not like my time being wasted especially when there is absolutely no reason to, but everyone has their thing ig

[odd marsh]

i didnt do bilewater

[mellow totem]

BRO IM GONNA CRASHOUT I HATE SINNERS ROADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[rocky lotus]

i honestly dont think skongs runbacks are longer than hks just harder which makes them seem longer

[odd marsh]

what act r u on

[unkempt steeple]

No runback in silksong is as bad as soul master's

[worldly umbra]

i could honestly take crashouts with multiple guys in sinners road

[mellow totem]

2 i came back for cross stitch

[odd marsh]

the parry?

[long relic]

I mean in hk you dont really have to worry about runbacks because you kill every boss in like 3 attempts

[rocky lotus]

at least the last judge runback is consistent

[mellow totem]

ye

[rocky lotus]

that too

[odd marsh]

i didint do last judge and directly got parry

[verbal steeple]

i heard that the code of skong actually has a voided last judge or something but since u can't really get into act 3 without killing her you just can't encounter it

[unkempt steeple]

I'd only do act 1 phantom for early parry ngl

[verbal steeple]

is that true

[unkempt steeple]

I love crpss stitch

[mellow totem]

i didnt know u can enter sinners road so im back after last judge and im glad i did last judge this shit is so hard bro the plat forming and the enemies

[verbal steeple]

i love cross stitch but ever since doing act 1 mountfay

i have grown to sharpdart

[worldly umbra]

im boutta do item and enemy rando wish me luck

[rotund stag]

if it was it would've been boring as hell becuase she would've just been a massive health sponge

[verbal steeple]

"im boutta do torture and torture wish me luck"

[long relic]

I mean ngl last judge route is stupidly slow and I always miss one random bell and going through sinners road and bile water is actually fun since you get to see more new stuff and the area is still decently easy

[strange knot]

Sharp dart is peak

[verbal steeple]

really shocks me to realize some people reached the citadel gate without getting all 5 bells

in my first playthrough it always felt like the bellshrines were obvious. i mean they also have signs

[long relic]

who thought they were actually important though

[odd marsh]

u only need to do that till the broken bench, then just fix the bench and go upwards from the room whcih we use to get to broken bench then at the very top u will see a transition, go thru the left door after the transmission and there will be a breakable wall at the top left of the punching dude , break that and enter the mist

[long relic]

if you did good job but I sure didnt

[rotund stag]

me when people have different routes in this game that has different routes

[verbal steeple]

idk. big bells with levers that have signs seem important

[odd marsh]

then jusst do the mist and reach phantom

[long relic]

and all they gave was benches

[odd marsh]

citadel of song menu screen is so peak

[worldly umbra]

this should be fun

[verbal steeple]

yeah but it felt like they were different than normal benches

[long relic]

not to me

[odd marsh]

ppl talk abt the slab, do yall know where it is?

[rotund stag]

i mean free benches is silksong is crazy

[mellow totem]

bro that room right after u like go up from the bench room theres like 4 dogs at the botttom and 2 dudes waiting on the platform bro its so hard

[rotund stag]

the slab is where the slab is

[verbal steeple]

i mean the fact you're rewarded one for beating widow (when bellhart has a literal bench already) and the fact everytime they ring they're pretty loud and have a different effect than any normal benches

[odd marsh]

dont go bottom, after fixing the broken bench go upwards

[verbal steeple]

it is roughly at the left of the citadel map

[mellow totem]

ye upwards

[long relic]

do you think im trying to figure out why the bells could possibly be ringing

[mellow totem]

u go up then right right that room

[verbal steeple]

idk i just felt like it was natural to assume those bellshrines were important in some way

[rotund stag]

wow guys the bells make sound because this is silk song do you get it

[odd marsh]

that si the bench room

now go back into that place and just go straight up

[worldly umbra]

ok so enemy rando didnt work but i still have item rando so

[agile cipher]

A structure that doesn't really fit the environment that has an overly long animation and gives you a bench afterwards? Seems important to me

[verbal steeple]

infact the bellshrines felt so different i thought every area would have one lmao untill i realized that was not the case

[mellow totem]

can u send a pick of where ur talking about

[long relic]

yeahimportant for the bench

[odd marsh]

i dont have 300 msgs sent T-T, i can dm u ig

[mellow totem]

k

[verbal steeple]

yeah and a bunch of times they'll be near another bench

so i feel it is normal to assume they're more than just benches

[agile cipher]

It's not like song is in the game's title or anything, and that bells are instruments

[verbal steeple]

silking my song till sea of sorrow releases

[rotund stag]

🤨

[long relic]

you know thinking song as in the needolin is a horrible assumption, but no the stupid bells are super duper important

[verbal steeple]

the needolin is very important

infact the dream sequence literally shows u what u can do with it

[rotund stag]

they should've called it silksound lmao

[agile cipher]

I didn't mentioned anything about the needolin, but even then, why can't both be important?

[long relic]

im just saying its weird to assume the bells have something to do with the name when the needolin is 50x more important

[verbal steeple]

yeah. and the stupid bells that have special effects and are gated behind bosses/gauntlets seem VERY important

[true lodge]

should I make a video on the randomizer or

[rotund stag]

are we for real arguing over bells

[true lodge]

tried making a Zote edit

it crashed

[agile cipher]

It's not like one of the first things you see when you start a new game is a bell, in the beginning cutscene
Like, i get that the needolin is more important, but when the fight that gives you the needolin also gives you a bell shrine, you'd think they're both really important

[verbal steeple]

also every bellshrine is locked behind something

lace. widow. bellbeast. the craw gauntlet is needed to get to the greymoor shrine

and u need cling grip to get into the shellwood one

[long relic]

ngl i thought they were randomly played around the map

[verbal steeple]

i mean fair

[true lodge]

noice

[verbal steeple]

my first assumption about the bellshrines is that every area is going to have one.

but then i did hunters march and immediatly realized that wasn't the case

[agile cipher]

That's fair, but still, just because you didn't thought that they were important, doesn't mean everyone will make that assumption

[formal scroll]

Hey there dudes why isnt the flea festival happening i alr like gotten every single lost flea

Its not fair what the flip

[long relic]

ngl bilewater route is more fun in my opinion

[verbal steeple]

agreed

tho hornet falling down an elevator is very awesome

[long relic]

and I dont want people to wine about bile water bile water is not a hard area to traverse through and you go through the easiest area of bilewater

[verbal steeple]

bilewater is very fun for me imo

[verbal steeple]

did u go to act 3

[formal scroll]

Ye

[verbal steeple]

u can't get flea festival unless you're in act 3

also try exiting out of putrified ducts and go to another bench

like sit on a bench outside of putrified ducts and return

[formal scroll]

Oohh okay

[verbal steeple]

also did u talk with mooshka

[formal scroll]

Whos mooshka

[verbal steeple]

the main guy of the flea group

[formal scroll]

Ye

Got egg of flealia

[verbal steeple]

alright just go to another bench outside of putrified ducts

and then return.

[formal scroll]

K ty

[rocky lotus]

people are going to complain about bilewater because it sucks

[agile cipher]

I wouldn't say so, sinner's road is better
The maggots feels a little too punishing early on unless you have multibinder

[verbal steeple]

i personally find bilewater the most fun area

[strange knot]

Bilewater and sucks in one sentence?

[verbal steeple]

but tbf maybe i'm just a masochist

[formal scroll]

Whats a masochis

[strange knot]

Same

[long relic]

well yeah but im talking about the routes (ngl I didnt know you could go through sinners road only for a while)

[rocky lotus]

yeah its overly punishing for most players

[strange knot]

A person who likes pain

[formal scroll]

Okay

[verbal steeple]

for example: reaper crest fans

[long relic]

WTF DUDE

[formal scroll]

Hey im not a masochist

[verbal steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1443697820442820688/1460309146049056912/caption.gif

[long relic]

thats uncalled for

[rotund stag]

oh my god

[verbal steeple]

always bet on reaper crest hate

[vast bolt]

I just realized. Lace's head is just a rice ball.

[formal scroll]

Jelly donut

[long relic]

what crest you use

[agile cipher]

Bilewater with the wreath of purity is fun, it takes the biggest complain i have about it, which is the smallest mistake makes you lose 9 silk with no compensation

[verbal steeple]

i switch between alot of them

[strange knot]

It’s a 🥐

[true lodge]

prob witch

[rotund stag]

most of the silksong community is a valid reason to keep the death penalty globally legal

[verbal steeple]

i've used hunter. wanderer. cursed crest. reaper. beast. architect.

[long relic]

why does everybody hate reaperse crest

[strange knot]

Bilewater without wreath of purity is even better

[vast bolt]

If you just take out the head and just keep the hat, it is a croissant.

[verbal steeple]

honestly? i think cursed crest is actually probably my second most used crest technically

[long relic]

reapers crest is easy and fun

[exotic cedar]

I just love hating on silksong...

[wary drum]

Like wdym you find a stick attractive 😭

[formal scroll]

Prolly cuz of low dps

[verbal steeple]

i've never done a full run with the other crests except for hunter and cursed crest

so technically cursed crest is one of my main crests

[rotund stag]

hey that's my duty!

[exotic cedar]

No no no

[strange knot]

I’ve tried beating the game with hunter like 16423 times

[long relic]

it is mainly used for traversing

[agile cipher]

Honestly, no clue, i find it fun to go aggressive with it, because yes you can do that, and it's the reason i can get faydown cloak in act 1

[fossil wadi]

Hi

[strange knot]

The key word is “tried”

[verbal steeple]

WE all love hunter crest

[wary drum]

I just love hating on ||shippers||

[fossil wadi]

[verbal steeple]

i just realized. aren't u supposed to be apple

[long relic]

wait what

[rotund stag]

because it's the silksong cultmunity, and as such we must prove irrational hatred to all who do not adhere to our ideal playstyle

[odd marsh]

yay i helped mugiwara out

[verbal steeple]

correct

[exotic cedar]

I got kicked from the apple job because i was eating the employes

[verbal steeple]

also because reaper crest is gonna underpowered

[long relic]

fym you got it in act 1 we got the real pshycopath here

[strange knot]

No he is alpre

[rocky lotus]

true i think we should kill anyone who doesnt use hunter

[spark anchor]

it's a noob crutch im afraid

[vast bolt]

Why do you hate services that deliver goods overseas?

[spark anchor]

i really see no potential high skill play with it

[agile cipher]

Look up faydown cloak with no clawline on youtube

[spark anchor]

the bind effect is cool and all but ehhh

[wary drum]

[verbal steeple]

act 1 mountfay. u should try it if u completed the game

assuming you're up to the task

[rocky lotus]

i love mount fay

[verbal steeple]

actually if you're even MORE of a masochist do act 1 bilewater without double jump

[rotund stag]

i hate mount fay

[verbal steeple]

-# gonna need to learn pimp pogos

[long relic]

ive already done that

[rocky lotus]

hater

[verbal steeple]

act 1 bilewater WITHOUT double jump?

[rotund stag]

lover

[long relic]

or do you mean like groal

[verbal steeple]

all of it

[long relic]

not much to do in bile water

[verbal steeple]

the entirety of bilewater in act 1 without double jump

groal. the mask shard. everything

[wary drum]

I love gms's cocoon 🪡🪡🪡

[rocky lotus]

do you hate air

[rotund stag]

tmi brotato...

[strange knot]

Why do you hate air

[verbal steeple]

overrated

[long relic]

I hate it when people say this crap people play the game for fun not for what does the most dps or to oneshot the enemies

[rotund stag]

because it suck

[verbal steeple]

100% of people who breathe air die

[lone badger]

Hello everyone 👋

[rotund stag]

overrairted

[wary drum]

Uhh idk probably radiance corona virus is in the air

[raw pawn]

How do I silk a song?

[spark anchor]

even from an above average player

not super tryhards

[agile cipher]

Not really underpowered no, it's kinda good for it's spot in the game, you can get either it or beast as your first additional crest, and for the bosses from greymoor till shellwood, it's pretty good since the attackspeed of the hunter is not as relevant there
It's a good supporting crest to play safe, and even aggressively it is fun to use
It's better than architect for pure damage tbh, along with some other things

[verbal steeple]

agreed. tho reaper crest needs a slight buff. the gimmick of reaper is a bit underpowered for what it is supposed to do

[rotund stag]

can we for once not have a game with a fucking meta i plead to christ our saviour

[verbal steeple]

better than architect for pure damage?

[odd marsh]

guys help, it says ventricia travels in closed T-T

[long relic]

that word is a slur for me

[wary drum]

Metas ruin a game

[raw pawn]

Uhh why the hell didn't the caretaker give me a quest I completed like 99% of the wishes

[unkempt steeple]

They're not you just gotta open more

[rotund stag]

meta in games with variety of strategy literally unmake their entire concept

[verbal steeple]

the reaper crest passive bind shouldn't go away from getting hit. it should be like beast crest honestly

[odd marsh]

i went from grand bellway to terminus and a sign said it is closed

[verbal steeple]

as in. if u get hit. the time you're in it should be reduced

not completely removed

[rotund stag]

there are few things in games that i dislike like metas
i HATE them

[unkempt steeple]

You gotta open other ventricas

Throughout the cidadel

[odd marsh]

i thought vetricia was a place

[unkempt steeple]

Nope

[odd marsh]

ima explore from grand bellway then ig

[long relic]

that word scares me

[unkempt steeple]

The ventrica system is a bunch of elevators

[verbal steeple]

because y'know. reaper passive basically lets u to gain back enough silk for a heal immediatly. but reaper is also used for people who are early-game and get hit alot. so making the passive completely removed from getting hit feels weird

[raw pawn]

Omg right I forgot to send the flea caravan to the pale lake

[agile cipher]

Yeah, at least from my experience, if you want to use architect properly, a few tools are needed for that, like the volt vessels or quick sling, and just... the nail on architect just such, with it's momentum pushing you forward and the pogo being unusable in quick situations, as well as being able to use a silk skill on reaper
I feel like it is more versatile than architect

[unkempt steeple]

They work like the bellways you gotta open the ones you find

[long relic]

I dont use it for the passive I use it for the long range

makes exploring easier

[verbal steeple]

fun fact: reaper is only the 4th crest in range i think

[unkempt steeple]

Honestly ventrica system is much better secondary fast travel than the trams in hk

[verbal steeple]

it's in the middle in terms of range

[lone badger]

agree with that one

[odd marsh]

i use wanderes is that a bad choice

[verbal steeple]

also another fun fact: wanderer is slightly longer than hunter

[long relic]

lier

[verbal steeple]

if you're having fun. no

[long relic]

that cant be true

[verbal steeple]

nope. it's an actual thing.

[odd marsh]

alr

[lone badger]

no

[unkempt steeple]

The tram's are basically useless but you'll find yourself using the ventricas quite a few times

[lone badger]

i use onlyhunter crest

[odd marsh]

im a 112% hk player so im very used to that moveset

[agile cipher]

It's almost as if they have 2 completely different uses

[verbal steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/hayır-olamaz-lego-gif-7647030352230915501

[unkempt steeple]

No there are no bad choices this is a single player game

[odd marsh]

W, i heard evo upgrade sit twice

[subtle skiff]

From what ive seen ss balancing is actually somewhat decent regarding crests

[odd marsh]

except for goign throught bile water

[lone badger]

exactly the trams barely have places to go unlike the stags even

[rotund stag]

can we just play this fucking game

[verbal steeple]

NO

[rocky lotus]

nah i dont want to play silksong

[verbal steeple]

don't play silksong. bad game. play hungry knight instead

[odd marsh]

architect fucking dogs all the things

[rotund stag]

i swear this community must have the number 0 position for making issues about the most NOTHING things ever

[exotic cedar]

No

[rotund stag]

absolute cinema

[unkempt steeple]

Well... I guess if you want to go there it's fine

[lone badger]

beast crest wanderer and hunter and a bit witch crest are good crest for me

[verbal steeple]

when is hungry knight: silksong releasing

[odd marsh]

i am playing : D , citadel is so beautiful

[rotund stag]

play OFF play OFF

[subtle skiff]

Sure but youre not actively nerfing yourself by straying from meta like in hk, like the other crests are still actually viable

[unkempt steeple]

Trvke

[unkempt steeple]

Love the cidadel

[verbal steeple]

i like the concept of yellow tools

tools that are just meant to be QoL. and not any serious buffs

[lone badger]

same

[unkempt steeple]

Way better than hk's overpowered charm builds

[verbal steeple]

obviously. some of them aren't like that.

LOOKING AT U CAREFREE MELODY 2.0

[raw pawn]

Uhh is the final audience wish required for act 3? Because I always complete it before act 3

[rotund stag]

honestly can i say i find excessive gold designs kind of ugly

[lone badger]

nah

[odd marsh]

WHY IS THERE A NKG 'S LOST COUSION LOOKING POTRAT

[verbal steeple]

is that the second sentinel one? if so. no

[rotund stag]

the citadel does it right but it gets kind of boring after a while for me ngl

[lone badger]

the city of tears is better than citadel ngl

[verbal steeple]

zoteboat is better than both of those

[strange knot]

Ima do another steel soul run

[raw pawn]

I like how second sentinel continues to protect the citadel after the fight

[unkempt steeple]

Blasphemy agaisnt the holy cidadel??? To the slab.

[rotund stag]

100/0 matchup tbh

[verbal steeple]

do the barbed soul run

[strange knot]

Haven’t done that in a while

[odd marsh]

all the citadel bugs are so royal lmao

[strange knot]

No thanks

[rotund stag]

the city of tears alone is so much more potent than most areas in silksong in my eyes tbh

[raw pawn]

Death is illegal in the citadel

[agile cipher]

I mean... negating like 8% of damage is pretty okay overall, it just eclipses most yellow tools given that the others are moe situational, and the bracelet sucks

[unkempt steeple]

Can I be honest I don't get the city of tears hype😭

I didn't really care for it when I first got there in hk

[rotund stag]

that's fine

[lone badger]

its the rain and the area in general so calm yk

[rocky lotus]

i wish city of tears was bigger

[strange knot]

Agree tbh

[odd marsh]

YES

[rotund stag]

idk i'm just a lover of dark places with few lights and dark colors

[raw pawn]

My fav area in hk was resting grounds

[odd marsh]

hk felt so small after finishing

[lone badger]

same

[odd marsh]

i had no prior speed run experience but i finished the speed run achievemnt in 3 hrs on steel soul, thats how small the game felt T-T

[rotund stag]

my favourite area in hollow knight was king's pass

[lone badger]

yeah once yk every place and secret its getting pretty small

[rocky lotus]

after silksong city of tears doesnt really feel like a city lol because the citadel is just so much bigger

[lone badger]

i also did a speedrun on hk without a guide and ngl i almost lose it

[tight viper]

I wish City of Tears was renamed to City of Gears and instead of ruined buildings it was replaced by Cogwork Core but sad

[raw pawn]

Oh also the room where cornifer is in royal waterways

It took me a very long time to realize that you have to kill all the enemies in the room for the door to open 😭

[rotund stag]

honestly i prefer that over the way silksong's mostly nothingburger maps felt to me

[lone badger]

rip

[lone badger]

i mean i like the ss map but there so many areas and confusing smth

[odd marsh]

yea

dude magnitite brooch is so good

[raw pawn]

The coral tower and high halls both look so beautiful

[odd marsh]

i have over 1.5k rosaries on me and my inv combined rn

[raw pawn]

And verdania

[unkempt steeple]

I kinda like how streamlined silksong's map is but yeah alot of early areas like marrow and deep docks don't compare to hk's early areas like crossroads and greenpath

[lone badger]

mount fay its so underrated as area i wish it was a bit bigger

[rotund stag]

no not even that it's just that there's so much area where you just walk and do nothing

[neat fossil]

Greenpath and fungal wastes are so underrated

[agile cipher]

What do you mean?

[raw pawn]

What if they add a secret hard parkour to Mt fay like pop in hk?

[lone badger]

yeah but its just platforming like some PoP

[unkempt steeple]

I love greenpath and wasted

[odd marsh]

dude the amount of freedom you had in hk was so good, in skong it feels so one by one shit

[verbal steeple]

y'know gonna use barbed bracelet alot more

[odd marsh]

can yall check sk help btw

[rotund stag]

when i was exploring, it always felt i was walking for hours and never unlocking anything meaningful for the most part

[verbal steeple]

i did a cursed crest run so i feel like i've forced myself to adapt to enemies a bunch so i should be able to avoid damage

[lone badger]

yeah the early game can be frustate a bit especialy since game has no hand holding but its not that bad

[rotund stag]

hk's map may be smaller but that's it's strenght in my eyes, it's just enough to leave impact but also condensed enough to have everything it needs to have be in a sensical place

[agile cipher]

I mean, fair, tho to me once you get dash the game opens up a lot, and it's fun to explore around, specially with the moveset you get
Just my opinion tho

[raw pawn]

Oh wait a secret hard parkour in mt fay sounds like a bad idea because you prob already got the faydown cloak so the cold is not a problem anymore

[lone badger]

yeah

[rotund stag]

all the points i make are from my perspective and experience, there is no objective way one should experience silksong

[lone badger]

ah ok my bad

[rotund stag]

it's ok i didn't specify

[raw pawn]

Okay but I am pretty sure most of the players went to bilewater last in act 2 somehow

[lone badger]

nah i went there so clueless in act 2

[agile cipher]

You actually have quite a bit of freedom to see which route you take, but it is lesser that what hollow knight had, not that it's a bad thing tbh, the freedom you have is still plenty
Like, you can take the route towards greymoor, or you can go from deep docks to shellwood once you get dash, you can go blasted steps or sinners road, or you can get faydown act 1 and literally explore all non cidatel areas before act 2

[lone badger]

hunter march before getting the sprint its pain

[rotund stag]

i think their point was that you really can only get in the citadel in 2 ways only?

[raw pawn]

Good thing Shakra helps you if you went to hunter's march before getting sprint

[verbal steeple]

all the points i make are purely objective and everyone should experience silksong MY way

[agile cipher]

(Actually it's before going to the second layer of areas, like greymoor or shellwood)

[strange knot]

Nah

Dashless hunters march is overhated

[verbal steeple]

i get to the sprint skill by doing hunters march

[rotund stag]

yeah, all the liberals that DARE have an opinion

[verbal steeple]

even in my steel soul i did that

[lone badger]

i mean its possibel i tried myself but its hard for some

[raw pawn]

Lmao same

[slender zealot]

Todays silksongdle classlic ws pain

[agile cipher]

I mean, given how important the citadel is, i can get why, it's like saying that only getting to the white palace through that kingsmould is bad somehow

[odd marsh]

i did that on my first save, and then rage quit in grey moor, in my second save i went thru docks

[undone gate]

It's hard if your not too used to the game

[raw pawn]

I think you can't reach savage beastfly before going to far fields tho

[lone badger]

exactly

[rocky lotus]

i agree we should force everyone to play hunter only

[verbal steeple]

gonna do act 1 bilewater without double jump again

[odd marsh]

yep u need cloak for it

[rotund stag]

i don't really care at all, but i think it would've been cool to have more ways to access

[rocky lotus]

dashless was how i did hunters march for the first time lol

[agile cipher]

Yup, and you ultimately can't explore the whole marsh until cling grip

[woeful leaf]

I don't like the hunter crest

[verbal steeple]

this time i'll do it with my custom crest (assuming shaman down pogo can let me get up there with pimp pogos"

[odd marsh]

same

[rocky lotus]

i cheesed the skarguard in the tiny hallway in his room

[verbal steeple]

i always have hunters march completed by the time i get drifters cloak

[undone gate]

I almost did it dashless but I ended up quitting in my 1st playthrow

[rotund stag]

maybe it could show that the citadel wants to have as much control on the other areas as possible so they can enslave the people there for work idk

i really don't care

[raw pawn]

Those flying ants in hunter's march used to be so annoying on my first playthrough

[agile cipher]

I mean, if you want to be nitpicky, you can get to the citadel from underworks if you do act 1 faydown

[odd marsh]

same

[rotund stag]

yeah i guess, but eeh

[verbal steeple]

would be cool if u could enter the citadel from the memorium through putrified ducts

sadly groal's area of putrified ducts is blocked off from the rest

[rotund stag]

would be cool if you could enter the citadel

[verbal steeple]

would be cool if silksong was real

[raw pawn]

Did the game know you would get faydown cloak before act 2 or something?

[lone badger]

welp time for another stellsoul run

[verbal steeple]

the memorium side of putrified ducts has a breakable wall that leads to the groal side

[agile cipher]

Honestly, given that the citadel is the objective you have in act 1, having more ways to access it could make it seem... not that big of a goal at all?
I'm not sure, still i feel like having too many ways to enter the citadel in act 1 would be... underwhelming

[verbal steeple]

but the groal side can't break that wall.

wait actually. HOW THE FUCK did the flea caravan get to putrified ducts

[agile cipher]

And you can't enter bilewater through the ducts also, the huntress room is locked from both sides

[verbal steeple]

that shit is filled with platforming. and their caravan is deff too small to enter from the memorium

[lone badger]

they fly there mb?

[verbal steeple]

what

[rotund stag]

i mean in hollow knight the 3 main objectives there wasn't really a correct way to achieve them, you could get each dreamer in a non specific order

[agile cipher]

The fleas can fly, maybe they flew the caravan over there?

[verbal steeple]

ig

but they're at the last judge blasted steps

and the enterance to putrified ducts from the memorium is barely big enough to fight hornet

how would they fit their caravans in there? do they disassemble them

[lone badger]

video games logic ahh

[verbal steeple]

are their caravans actually a bunch of fleas transformed into objects

[raw pawn]

How the hell can grindle get in the citadel but Shakra can't?

[lone badger]

good question

[rotund stag]

grindle has connections

[verbal steeple]

maybe she doesn't want to

[agile cipher]

Shakra refuses to enter the citadel, not that she can't enter it, after all, she can help in the high halls arena

[rotund stag]

fool, you know not the pull that Grindle has on the political department of pharloom

[verbal steeple]

also this is similar reasoning to why i HATE PILBY

sherma the GOAT. is able to enter the songclave

[raw pawn]

Oh right I forgot she can appear outside the high halls arena

[cerulean sable]

Sea of Sorrow

Alchemist or an Anchor crest

[verbal steeple]

while little STUPID pilby dies because he's STUPID

[rotund stag]

Pilbly more like stupiby

[lone badger]

also careful with grindel bcs on citadel he can steal some chests it happened to me🥲

[cerulean sable]

Wait

[agile cipher]

She really hates the citadel, you can see that from the pins she makes for you for the ventrica stations

[cerulean sable]

Serouslu

Does Grindle do that

[verbal steeple]

never had that happen to me

[agile cipher]

Only had that happen to me once before, and even then, the rosaries from those chests you can easily get from 1-2 grand reeds or something

It's not that bad

[verbal steeple]

i like how the game will have the most HIDDEN places

and it will have like. 30 rosaries

if you're lucky

[rotund stag]

we speak not of wisp thicket

[verbal steeple]

i'm not speaking of wisp thicket

[rotund stag]

good

[lone badger]

that place its boring ngl

[spark relic]

And maybe a shell shard

[rotund stag]

no it's not even that it's that it's hidden in the most bullshit place oat

[verbal steeple]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[lone badger]

oh yeah true

[verbal steeple]

PILBY IS DEAD AGAIN. i have 9 different playthroughs and i let PILBY DIE IN EACH ONE

he dies 9 times and i crave his death even more

[lone badger]

bro you can save him just dont sit on the bone bottom bench

[rotund stag]

find the skull tyrant

[agile cipher]

I mean, kinda? If you explore greymoor a bit, you're bound to find that, since... it's not really hidden, the wall that lets you access it is very much visible

[lone badger]

yeah but its barely visibel i found it at the end of act 2

[rotund stag]

how? it's like a 60 pixel block of wood

[fallen hare]

Might this be the successor of E1331?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/s/y7HSCC0MTx

[rotund stag]

idk, forbid my volatile patience but i think wisp thicket is one of the few things in this game that was genuinely kind of bs

[agile cipher]

A lot of hidden areas are like that, like the small rosary pocket between bellheart and shellwood, the game... kinda teaches us those sort of spots usually have stuff