sk-discussion

[kind tide]

Errrrr, uuhhhhhh, ermmmm, guys?

[elfin kestrel]

Yeah

[cedar sphinx]

Hmmm

[kind tide]

Pashanka

[ancient mortar]

It becomes inaccessible past a certain point.

[charred ruin]

Do a bunch of quests and buy her maps and do her quest

[tidal glade]

https://youtu.be/n17aSdFQnh4?si=RILBZRIbcXj4y0cy

Yes

[elfin kestrel]

Complete her quest and it's just outside belhart iirc

[graceful cairn]

lowkey i hated it

[charred ruin]

U get locked out of it in act 3 i think

[cedar sphinx]

Which crerst did you use?

[restive crag]

AGHH

[graceful cairn]

dont remember but probably hunter

[restive crag]

that explains it

[ancient mortar]

I can send my favorite clip of the fight if that helps

Also I just love posting it

[cedar sphinx]

That is just a skill issue

[autumn scroll]

I require bingo goals in #hk-discussion

[restive crag]

after I did her quest I went straight to High Halls

[cedar sphinx]

Its amazing how much you can miss in this game

[sharp slate]

wanderer my beloved

i hate the shakra fight with a passion, but im biased

[restive crag]

Just found out a few days ago that you can permanently disable Clawmaidens

really would've been helpful for the worst gauntlet in the game

[cedar sphinx]

I had to find out by my brother and do it on my second playthrough

[graceful cairn]

W

[restive crag]

ooh wait I have a good question

[cedar sphinx]

?

[sharp slate]

wish i knew that before my steel soul found it way too late lol

[restive crag]

What boss fight took the longest/most attempts?

[sharp slate]

LL

[cedar sphinx]

Lost lace

Or karmilita

[elfin kestrel]

Lace 2 somehow

[cerulean sable]

unironically Beastfly

[lavish glacier]

on my first playthrough i kid u not it was savage beastfly 1

[cerulean sable]

Beastly was 9 tries

[rocky jolt]

for me it was voltvyrm

[cedar sphinx]

BEASTFLY 2

[cerulean sable]

Lost Lace was... no wait i think Lost Lace was around 1 hour

[graceful cairn]

probably beastfly two but special mention to unravelled because fuck unravelled

[tidal glade]

For me... Prolly Karmelita or Tormented Trobbio

If we're talking about hitless

[restive crag]

...

[cedar sphinx]

I havnt defeated the unravled

[lavish glacier]

LL was kinda sad for me it took me like 2 attempts

[elfin kestrel]

...

[charred ruin]

Beastfly and lace 2

[rocky jolt]

what

[cedar sphinx]

What do you get from the unraveled?

[rocky jolt]

voltwyrm is an insanely tough boss

[lavish glacier]

silkheart

[graceful cairn]

a silk heart

[kind tide]

Carmelly and last lace

[elfin kestrel]

Silk heart

[charred ruin]

Silk heart

[restive crag]

completely missed Unraveled and ended up fighting him in Act 3 😭

[tidal glade]

Silk heart

[cedar sphinx]

!??!?!?!?!!?!??!

OH MY GOD I HAVE BEAN SEARCHING FOREVER

[graceful cairn]

yeah they lock that shit behind the worst boss in the fucking game

[lavish glacier]

karmelita best boss fr i prolly have at least like 10 hours on her lol

[sharp slate]

time for my one shaman hitless attempt of the night yolo, guessing i will get hit to first sinner

[kind tide]

Whos unraveled

[cedar sphinx]

I rage quit and never play again then

[kind tide]

I forget them

[lavish glacier]

whiteward boss

[kind tide]

The fat guy?

[lavish glacier]

yeah

[kind tide]

Lmao

[sharp slate]

the mop

[tidal glade]

https://youtu.be/knPR6Jol3tA?si=Bqq6YiwE0GmBH5b-

Here's the fight, goodluck

[cedar sphinx]

I have not defeated the mop

[charred ruin]

The clump of cloth with a cymbal for a hat

[restive crag]

My favorite fights were Phantom and First Sinner

[sharp slate]

not gonna lie i want the hat

[lavish glacier]

its a conductors hat

[charred ruin]

Mines lost lace i love pogoing her

[cedar sphinx]

Ok I have to escape

[restive crag]

Now this might be a skill issue but I kid you not Widow took me more tries than Lost Lace

[cedar sphinx]

I am going to be stuck all night

[charred ruin]

real

[lavish glacier]

take a wild guess which boss is my favourite

[north island]

B I L E W A T E R

[lavish glacier]

widow is satisfying in any% with the dash cancels and shi

[cedar sphinx]

The music is WAY to fire

[charred ruin]

Hmmm oh man i wonder if its karmelita… no it couldnt be… must be nyleth!

[graceful cairn]

see widow is tricky and you were probably less good then so i cant blame you

[lavish glacier]

damn bro how did uk i thought it was impossible to guess!

[cedar sphinx]

I got widow WAY to fast

It was insane

[restive crag]

The way people were talking about Groal I thought it'd be a worse fight, beat him on my 3rd try

[lavish glacier]

nyleth < seth imo

[cedar sphinx]

You are insane

[lavish glacier]

music doesnt hit the same in nyleth

[elfin kestrel]

Groal himself is not that bad

[north island]

Great track for a place I hold most hatred for

[charred ruin]

The gauntlet before groal sucks

[elfin kestrel]

It's everything else about him that makes it terrible

[restive crag]

the humble thread storm:

[charred ruin]

I beat groal by staying in the muckmaggot water to avoid most attacks 😭

[graceful cairn]

i just wish they werent back to back

[cedar sphinx]

I think its becuase the place used to be veronia or somthing

[lavish glacier]

yeah honestly

[cedar sphinx]

Lost versomthing

[graceful cairn]

yeah thats how i did it my first time but in all my other runs i just locked in

[charred ruin]

Verdania

[tidal glade]

Verdania

[north island]

https://giphy.com/gifs/degisikhesabmis-gamevault-memevault-VOkpcujSu5L77ysRiD

[charred ruin]

Im a coward so i like playjng defensively

[restive crag]

wait I didn't think of that

[cedar sphinx]

bye

[charred ruin]

But no bilewater wasnt verdania verdania was all the way east to graymoor

[lavish glacier]

i just used le purple cogfly

[elfin kestrel]

I beat him by spamming the volt balls

[lavish glacier]

bolas r goated fr

[restive crag]

I used wreath of purity with thread storm and volt filament, as well as the voltvessels and the thing you get from Father of the Flame

[charred ruin]

Wisp lantern

[restive crag]

ye

[charred ruin]

I like father of the flame fight its fun to pogo

Kinda repetitive tho

The fights purely just a pogo check

[restive crag]

getting the drill tool before that fight was a godsend

[charred ruin]

I didnt use any tools cuz i didnt need em

[graceful cairn]

OH I DIDNT THINK OF THAT

[restive crag]

I ended up dying right as I defeated it so I had to runback to get the lantern

[restive crag]

does so much damage

[lavish glacier]

voltvessel spear is also really good for fotf

[restive crag]

found vv way after that fight

[charred ruin]

You didnt learn your lesson from last judge did you

[restive crag]

no I just got hit by a wisp

[elfin kestrel]

When I first went through mount fay I discovered you can you the overdose thing to basically kill all difficulty, made it so easy and I felt amazing figuring it out

[rocky jolt]

team cherry is so kind for making a secret room right before fourth chorus so speedrunners can get max silk for the skip

[charred ruin]

😭

[restive crag]

Last Judge was like the second worst fight for me

[cerulean sable]

wtf

TLJ is like

[restive crag]

Widow just barely took more tries

[cerulean sable]

A tier minimum\

[charred ruin]

And also to despawn enemies during beastfly 2!

[cerulean sable]

oh you mean in terms of death

[restive crag]

yes

[cerulean sable]

nvm yeah thats fair

yeah same actually

[stark briar]

hi

[cerulean sable]

TLJ took me 1 hour and that runback optimization was actually fun for me, and i know thats a controversial take

[restive crag]

Lost Lace took less tries than both Widow and TLJ

[charred ruin]

I spent like 3 hours on tlj i think

[stark briar]

Who is tlj?

[charred ruin]

Lost Lace took like 1

[lavish glacier]

real

[elfin kestrel]

I spent like

[stark briar]

oh wait the last judge

[cerulean sable]

cuz every fucking death i was like "ok what if i do this instead of this route" until i got to a perfect 20 seconds runback

[elfin kestrel]

2 days on the judge

[stark briar]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA 3 MORE MESSAGES I GOT IMAGE PERMS

[restive crag]

I always baited the driznit so I could pogo skip

[charred ruin]

Mostly i died to the bell throw cuz i forget it explodes

[cerulean sable]

TLJ runback mfers dont understand that pain that 2nd Drillznit caused me

i was fucking glad they removed that fucker

it was the only thing that was ruining my 20 second optimized runback route

[stark briar]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hollow-knight-hornet-silksong-taJ5mCqPIbuHynFutd

nyeh heh heh

wait a minute im not papyrus

[cerulean sable]

i prefer it when my runback is 1 smooth long non stop push tbh

so needing to wait an NPC to pogo was out of the question for me

[restive crag]

First Sinner was so much fun though, ik people were saying it was hard but I beat her second try

[lavish glacier]

i actually enjoy LJ runback its kinda clean in speedrunning

[charred ruin]

And sometimes i stood too close to tlj when switching to phase 2 cuz it reminded me of a certain gif and i couldnt stop laughing

[cerulean sable]

yeah same lmao

[slender zealot]

What is even this

[lavish glacier]

a certain gif...?

[restive crag]

Don't underestimate my level of patience

[eager creek]

I quite enjoyed tlj runback :] it's nice and smooth

[stark briar]

epic parry

[slender zealot]

I hate driznit

[charred ruin]

The mods are gonna have me executed if i sent it here

[lavish glacier]

i see

[slender zealot]

And the larger ones too

[cerulean sable]

FAIR

Silksong is much of a patience game tbh, it really demands it from you

and i know people dont like that and thats fair

[charred ruin]

I mean its a metroidvania

[slender zealot]

The best thing is that high gauntlet has no runback

[slender zealot]

Typo

[cerulean sable]

but reminds me of watching my friend play through the Father of the Flame runback and i was giving them tips to make the fight easier so they dont get frustrated after their 11th death and their reply was

"lol its cool, chill i got this lmao"

[restive crag]

It just irks me the sheer amount of people that played Silksong before HK and then complained about it being hard

like you literally skipped the tutorial bro

[lavish glacier]

lmaoo

[charred ruin]

What

[cerulean sable]

again it really depends on the person, some people did find Skong mechanically better enough not to get frustrated

[slender zealot]

Metrodiviana

[charred ruin]

No its metroidvania 😭

[tidal glade]

I started HK in August and finished PoP just before Silksong release lmao

[slender zealot]

No super dash though

[lavish glacier]

for me ss was by far better than hk but most of my friends disagree

[restive crag]

and you're better than me 😔

[lavish glacier]

holy ragebait

[charred ruin]

You get vertical super dash

[restive crag]

I've had Hollow Knight since 2023 😭

[slender zealot]

Writing typo was a typo

[ancient mortar]

Spoilers for todays silksongdle: ||3 guesses? im getting pretty good at this now||

[slender zealot]

And clawline which needs SILK WHY

[elfin kestrel]

Silksong completely blew hk out of the water for me. Tried to replay it after beating Silksong and it felt so bad because of how good Silksong was so I just stopped

[charred ruin]

Well i dunno shes gotta have something connected between the needle and herself to pull herself towards it lol

[restive crag]

went back to HK after beating LL for the first time and I got so mad at how slow the knight is that I closed the game after 8 minutes

[charred ruin]

Hk controls feel so wonky after ss 😭

[lavish glacier]

yeah exactlyyy

[cerulean sable]

my end statement is still

HK on a first playthrough was more magical but im never compelled to replay it cuz i find it very bland now
Silksong was frustrating me early on but eventually i eased up by Act 3 to the point i immediately wanted to do another save after an 80% clear but only stopped cuz the DLC was out

so its like
1st Playthrough HK - 10/10
1st Playthrough / Early Game Silksong - 7/10

2nd Playthrough HK - 7/10
2nd Playthrough / Late Game Silksong - 9.5/10

one thing i realized is that on a 2nd playthrough, because theres no "exploration" to do anymore, i was looking forward to the Arena gauntlets instead

because THATS my source of combat content now

[tidal glade]

Me trying to glide while fighting Radiant PV

[lavish glacier]

hot take high halls gauntlet is actually really fun (
partially due to the ost and partially bc im a speedrunner)

[cerulean sable]

and i was always in that opinion that HK is memorable for the bosses but most of the mob combat was absolutely bland, whereas in Silksong it is a bit frontloaded, but now theyre my main source of attraction to a 2nd playthrough which is why im looking forward to Arenas

i love HH Gauntlets ngl, i was actually expecting it to be longer

[restive crag]

spammed voltvessels on the clappers

[cerulean sable]

like Trial of the Conqueror difficulty even

[lavish glacier]

me and my trusty silkspear

[cerulean sable]

but i guess that wouldve been too much

[charred ruin]

I feel like some of the ss bosses have less variety in attacks

[lavish glacier]

that would have been a nightmare for speedrunning T-T

[cerulean sable]

eh disagreee, they make it up for being faster

theres a lot less lulls in Silksong's fight to compensate

[restive crag]

Trial of the Conquerer was the most fun I had in hk

[charred ruin]

like broodmother is just gruz mother

[restive crag]

don't get me started on broodmother

[lavish glacier]

simplicity is often best for flow i find (might be talking abt karm again)

[ancient mortar]

She defo has more moves than gruz mother. or do you just mean in comparison to other bosses in sk

[vivid belfry]

broodmother is similar to gruz in name, concept, and moveset

she's basically gruz prime

[ancient mortar]

Absolute gruz

[charred ruin]

She only gets to spawn ads throughout the fight and shoot globs and jump around but thats about it

[restive crag]

they have no reason to explode like that

ts pmo

[ancient mortar]

She has spawn ads, a spit attack, a grounded lunge attack with variation in how many times she chains it, and the gruz mothers slam attack. Thats like quadruble gruz mothers moveset.

[mellow totem]

uhm guys im in hunters march and im in act 2 and decided to get beast crest i beat the first gauntlet and shakra isnt here how do i get the map

[ancient mortar]

she will sell it if you meet her in bellhart, she doesnt show up past a certain point in the story there

[mellow totem]

huh shes in bellhart? where

[restive crag]

top right

[charred ruin]

Yeah but youd already have multiple movement abilities to compensate for it by the time you find her compared to not even having sprint when you fight gruz mother in most players playthrough

[ancient mortar]

Theres like a ring you can whack up and to the right

[cerulean sable]

thank fuck Hornet gets sprint in like 30 minutes into the game

hell i think it shouldve been 20 minutes

[ancient mortar]

I thought the topic was broodmother not having enough attacks?

[cerulean sable]

but HK Dash vs SS Sprint is such an insane glowup

cant go back to it ngl

[lavish glacier]

float down and to the right from plinney's platform

[restive crag]

to the right under the pinmaster's house

[mellow totem]

bruh im in hunter march rn i gotta go all the way back to bellhart now

[arctic epoch]

Wanderer suckass

[vivid belfry]

I've been replaying hollow knight and honestly the only time I've really missed something from silksong is getting to the 420 rock and going "man I wish I had silk soar"

[mellow totem]

like the gauntlet room with the first mini boss and the flying guy

[rocky lotus]

yeah being able to cancel it makes a huge difference imo

[restive crag]

go down through Deep Docks and take the bell beast

[cerulean sable]

i just like its 4 different moves on the get go

[slender zealot]

Silksongdle voice line was ||loam i didnt even hear him he died before i could||

[charred ruin]

What is the 420 rock

[elfin kestrel]

Why does hornet get nerfed so bad in the beginning of silksong, it couldn't have been THAT serious

[cerulean sable]

ahh fuck thinking about Silksong makes me wanna replay it

but i need to fucking wait for the DLC

[ancient mortar]

I got the classic mode in 3 guesses im super proud

[restive crag]

it was though

[vivid belfry]

secret room in kingdom's edge with a giant geo deposit (420 geo)

[charred ruin]

She didnt even know how to run 😭

[charred ruin]

Oh that one

[slender zealot]

Someone said it on the group i got it in 2 trues

[vivid belfry]

you could do what I did and get hopelessly addicted to visual novels for 3 months

that'll burn some time and change your life irrevocably

[cerulean sable]

im good

tryna EBox maxing rn anyway

[slender zealot]

If you zoom out location in todays silksongdle its just too easy

[mellow totem]

guys what do u get from the gauntlet room at the top of hunters march im going forb east crest so im not doing that yet

[slender zealot]

East crest?

[mellow totem]

beast

[vivid belfry]

I still feel a little bad about silksong getting mogged by three VNs

[ancient mortar]

You mean the one with the big guy and the flyer?

[vivid belfry]

but not that bad

it will happen again

[mellow totem]

eya

[charred ruin]

Which ones

[ancient mortar]

A red tool (depending if you bought it from an npc earlier in the game or not) and some rosaries

[slender zealot]

For beast crest enter the chapel of the beast on the south east

[slender zealot]

NOT SOME ALOT

[vivid belfry]

would bet anything that Ciconia also beats it but I've barely gotten started

[mellow totem]

ye im in that rn is there any benches right before the savage beastfly?

[charred ruin]

Nope

[mellow totem]

so the runback is from all the way at top

[charred ruin]

Runbacks not bad tho you just gotta avoid the ant with a trap

[slender zealot]

No i think far field bellshrine is close

[ancient mortar]

Subjective i suppose

How many does it give

[fossil socket]

whats VNS

[vivid belfry]

visual novel

[ancient mortar]

Visual novels, shit like doki doki literature club

[fossil socket]

Oh okay ty

[vivid belfry]

DDLC is not bad but it's the second worst VN I've ever read

[ancient mortar]

Just using a popular example i have not played it

[mellow totem]

i got nail upg 2 before savage beast fly

[elfin kestrel]

What's the worst

[slender zealot]

V easy then

[ancient mortar]

In stars and time is basically a visual novel right?

[vivid belfry]

needy streamer overload

which is also decent

[charred ruin]

No its way further

[slender zealot]

Closest

[ancient mortar]

Like i get it has rpg gameplay but 90% of the game is vn stuff

[slender zealot]

Oh the humters march bench i forgot

[charred ruin]

Beast crest is in hunters march dude

[slender zealot]

I think its no use getting beast crest

The 2nd worst crest

[charred ruin]

Unless you want 100%

[mellow totem]

why not

[vivid belfry]

beast crest actually pays off really nicely in the early game

[slender zealot]

That could be done later

[vivid belfry]

the fact that it lets you bank heals over your current max HP is super important when you can only take 3 hits

[frosty kelp]

guys is the cogwork dancers full screen attack consistent?

I swear it's random every time

I can't needle parry 😭

[restive crag]

Alright goognight guys

[tidal glade]

Wdym consistent

[charred ruin]

I did it pretty early since it was just on the way to everything else

[frosty kelp]

so basically do the cogwork dancers attack the same lines in the same order every time?

[slender zealot]

I think hunters march is a side area

[frosty kelp]

cus sometimes they go for some lines first and sometimes they go for the same lines after and needle parrying is a nightmare 😭

[sharp slate]

I never thought of it that way thats really intresting

[vivid belfry]

it's fast enough that the order doesn't matter

[frosty kelp]

I did get 2 parries in a row tho

[frosty kelp]

It does if I miss my needle attack then it still matters

sometimes I click early and that was the last line they cover

[slender zealot]

Im destroying high gauntlet soon without even entering humters march

[frosty kelp]

it's so stupid 😭

[mellow totem]

so is it worth getting the beast cuz i was gonna use it cuz im stuck on trobbio

[frosty kelp]

paryr only cogwork dancers is harder than I thought I thought that full screen attack is consistent

[slender zealot]

Oh

[cerulean sable]

i would play a 4 player coop Doki Do-

Wait...

[charred ruin]

It is but i might as well grab it since i was going around far fields and deep docks to collect stuff

[slender zealot]

I think no actually

[slender zealot]

As you must hit to heal and you can hardly hit trobbio

[light swan]

@frosty kelp mio when

[frosty kelp]

after e33

e33 doesn't exactly lack content

[light swan]

alr :D

[frosty kelp]

I was only able to get 30 minutes of silksong before my brain forced me back to e33

[mellow totem]

true but i think its time for me to get it as ive not done that yet should i or just leave it and go back to trobbio

[frosty kelp]

and since mio is a masterpiece I should pay respects to masterpieces I haven't experienced

so I should only play mio if I'm bored of e33

[charred ruin]

No your damage is gonna suck cuz you cant have fury uptime when trobbio lets you barely get any hits

And you cant heal unless you hit him in fury mode

[mellow totem]

yea

[frosty kelp]

beast on trobbio doesn't really change much

the most busted thing for trobbio is cross stitch

[charred ruin]

TRUE

[mellow totem]

like not specifically trobbio its just that i havent gotten it since i first went there on act 1 maybe i shjould get it now and use for later bosses too

[vivid belfry]

Trobbio is kinda one of the worst use cases for beast because of how evasive he is

[mellow totem]

i went the last judge way so couldnt make it to phantom

[lavish glacier]

cross stitch is just the superior silk skill

[frosty kelp]

It feels like cheese more than a boss fight with cross stitch

[lavish glacier]

spear in close 2nd tho

[charred ruin]

You can still backtrack to get to phantom

[keen solstice]

It's easier to upkeep beast on trobbio than shakra, first sinner, pinstress and pale stag thi

[charred ruin]

Who needs to heal when you can just parry AND do some damage too all for less silk

[charred ruin]

Still not worth it

[lavish glacier]

i bring cross stitch to all fights but i dont overly rely on it

[charred ruin]

I just use it as a panic button

[lavish glacier]

the raw parries are more satisfying after all

[mellow totem]

yea since im on savage beastfly rn should i go ahead and get beast or just go get cross stitch

[keen solstice]

Both

[frosty kelp]

yo do you have nay tips on raw parrying cogwork dancers

I'm doing a no dodge challenge kinda. Parry all moves that are parriable

I'm still allowed to dodge the non parriables

[charred ruin]

I didnt use beast at all throughout my playthrough so i cant say how useful it is for fast bosses like trobbio

[mellow totem]

for trobbio its bad for sure

[lavish glacier]

well just keep practicing, when the timing clicks, IT REALLY CLICKS

try to time ur swings as well dont just spam attack after the first successful parry for multihit moves (eg. phantom parry, karmelita triple slash)

[frosty kelp]

let me be more specific: the full screen attack where they draw a bunch of lines and attack all the whole arena

[lavish glacier]

oh is that even parryable i havent really tried

[frosty kelp]

I've parried phantom before

[charred ruin]

I doubt it

[frosty kelp]

it's so satsifying

[frosty kelp]

wait lemme send you a clip of me doing it

[charred ruin]

Oh someone reacted ok ig it is then

[lavish glacier]

ive just hard focused karmelita and thats it

[frosty kelp]

This is a garbage attempt but I get 2 parries of the full screen attack

[charred ruin]

I didnt i fought her braindead wanderers facetank in 2 tries

[frosty kelp]

I'm allowed cross stitch on non parriable attacks but I did abuse it here because I can technically parry a double horizontal full floor dash if I stay center

[lavish glacier]

ah just focus on one line ig that doesnt seem too bad

[frosty kelp]

IT'S RANDOM

THEY CAN COME EARLY OR LATE

AAAAAAAHHHHHH

I'VE CLICKED EARLY BEFORE AND THEY COME LATE

[lavish glacier]

hmm i will try for myself and get back to u

[frosty kelp]

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH IT'S SO STUPID 😭

[frosty kelp]

yeah I need it for "parry only"

basically no dodging

maybe I shoudl rename the challenge no dodging but then that would make people think I'm allowed stitch

[tight viper]

Least it isn’t Palestag, eh?

[frosty kelp]

YOU CAN PARRY PALESTAG???

homie palestag is gonna be a nightmare 😭

maybe I go coral tower

at least khann doesn't have anything parriable so I'm allowed to play him mlike a normal boss

[lavish glacier]

btw another thing i strongly suggest beast crest

[frosty kelp]

but I'd have to parry all parriable projectiles

[lavish glacier]

its goated for parrying

[frosty kelp]

dw I've tried it

[tight viper]

The projectiles are really weird but yeah

[frosty kelp]

I failed parry only phantom but I still enjoyed learning her stitch

[acoustic comet]

chat am i ready for bilewater cn u all tell me ?

[frosty kelp]

used beast for it

here's the vidoe: https://youtu.be/5AWtA5evxpo?si=hrSMTqMVpC0YFi_m

[frosty kelp]

it's not named parry only because it's not parry only but I'm gonna try parry only cogwork dancers

[tight viper]

Or, maybe straight parries don’t work, but I was able to pogo through them

[lavish glacier]

oh yeah i remember now we did chat a while back abt karmelita

gotten a bunch of attemps in since then

[frosty kelp]

yeah thanks I'll jsut backdash then up slash

scuttlebrace is officially useless

[lavish glacier]

check this out

https://youtu.be/jTjVvtkXbj0?si=VmKH5CcHsOpKG-CU

[frosty kelp]

☺️ so satisfying

[lavish glacier]

www

i bet u can do that one day

[frosty kelp]

I'm trying to do hitless parry only cogwork dancers so I don't get accused of facetanking cus my phantom attempt looks like face tanking

[lavish glacier]

i believe

[frosty kelp]

needle phial is diabolical 😭

[lavish glacier]

hehe

[frosty kelp]

that's so disrespectful

[lavish glacier]

i was strongly considering jumping behind her every stagger

...

[frosty kelp]

also sadly I'm not a GOAT because idk what the title is referencing

[lavish glacier]

ah its an old game

enjoyed?

[frosty kelp]

DAMN KARM

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO ATTACK NEAR THE CORNER

THAT FORCED CROSS STITCH IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL RUN 😭

[lavish glacier]

yeah karm patterns can be a little annoying

[lavish glacier]

cross stitch solves it tho i just dont use it if i dont have to

[frosty kelp]

such a beautiful attempt

[charred ruin]

i love pogoing

[frosty kelp]

yeah ik

I would have also stitched there

oh there's one more

and another

darn it karm :(((

[lavish glacier]

yeah lol

[frosty kelp]

W attempt

[lavish glacier]

maybe sharpdart next time XD

[frosty kelp]

nah sharpdart would have gotten you to take damage

and it looks less elegant

[lavish glacier]

yeah true

i got a nice beast run as well https://youtu.be/5xu-lZIib0c?si=WRR9WwMNSIJPv6Le

[tidal glade]

On my attempt I just wailed around with my needle XD

[frosty kelp]

wanderer not exactly easy to parry with so fair enough

[lavish glacier]

yeah im yet to find a way to triple parry with wanderer

[frosty kelp]

oh my god

that double parry phase through is just

[lavish glacier]

the pass through is beautiful am i right hehe

[slender zealot]

[frosty kelp]

I can't describe 😭

it's too peak

[lavish glacier]

its possible with reaper but its kinda hard

i might try again sometime

[frosty kelp]

aww you used unecessary stitch once

me forgetting you're not a TAS XD

[lavish glacier]

yeah i copped out a little but yeah satisfaction guaranteed

[frosty kelp]

dw ik the pain of these attempts

[slender zealot]

Is there any way to skip groal without pimpollo

[frosty kelp]

it's satisfying to watch but playing is really scary

then you rewatch your attempt and think it wasn't so bad when it was very very bad(I mean sweaty palms and stuff)

[lavish glacier]

yeah XD

[tidal glade]

There was a way but it's patched by now

[light swan]

triple parries are the perfect amount of parries

[frosty kelp]

OMG THERE'S A 2ND PHASE THROUGH YEEEESSSSS

[slender zealot]

I know voltvessel is patched

Like can you pogo voltvessel bola

[frosty kelp]

me slowing the footage down so I can see the peak

[lavish glacier]

glad i have a fan lol

[frosty kelp]

AAAAAAHHHHHH SO PEEEEEAAAAAKA

[light swan]

i forgot how good silksong was

too mio rotted

[frosty kelp]

I'm ngl

silksong combat in a casual playthrough is kinda dry

[lavish glacier]

yeah u gotta challenge urself

[light swan]

most combat systems in a casual playthrough is dry

unless youre me and youre a witch user

[frosty kelp]

but when you start searching for the funny needle parry sound ☺️

[frosty kelp]

nah for me nine sols combat was not dry

[light swan]

silksong released an awakening for me

[frosty kelp]

just my opinion

I know you don't enjoy it tho illu 😭

[light swan]

ever since silksong ive always broken apart a combat system as i played through

[slender zealot]

How did hornet get the sting shards for hornet 2 in hk

[lavish glacier]

did u see that other finisher i got

[frosty kelp]

not yet still watching

[lavish glacier]

might have been the cleanest shi ive ever gotten

[slender zealot]

Did she get some from forge daughter

[light swan]

i remember finding being the only metagame analyzer in the mio community even though i was only halfway through the game it was so funny

[frosty kelp]

I didn't see it, just finished

[light swan]

and then by the end of the game i managed to get the final boss buffed and now the sawtooth circlet / shaman volt threadstorm equivalent of mio is getting supernerfed and im the beta playtseter for it :D

[lavish glacier]

o?

[light swan]

its fine lol, its purely a me issue that i dont like parries :D

i will forever glaze unbounded counter though

[lavish glacier]

the second finisher the one that i inserted bc it was too clean

[frosty kelp]

oh yeah I did see 2 pass throughs

[safe ore]

Did sea of sorrow drop

[frosty kelp]

the 2nd screenshot I sent was of the 2nd one

[lavish glacier]

unfortunately not

[frosty kelp]

I thought there was another

[charred ruin]

unfortunately no

[plain tundra]

I drinked it

[tight viper]

Yea, dropped yesterday

[frosty kelp]

imagine 3 pass throughs

honestly silksong parrying kind of annoys me sometimes

[lavish glacier]

ill get another attempt and focus on pass throughs just for u ;)

[plain tundra]

How so?

[frosty kelp]

the reason I find pass throughs so beautiful is because I hate contact damage

so when you pass through a boss by parrying

☺️ Absolute cinema

[plain tundra]

Ah, because parrying doesn’t stop contact damage

[frosty kelp]

nah it's fine don't because it's insanely hard 😭

[frosty kelp]

EXACTLY

[lavish glacier]

nah its light work (totally)

[frosty kelp]

exactly let me leave the contact damage hitbox before making me taking ocntact damage you piece of -

[slender zealot]

?

[frosty kelp]

😭

[lavish glacier]

ive gotten used to reaper and beast tho so its really not that big of a deal i enjoy it anw

[frosty kelp]

ik this would look buggy cus then I oculd just stand inside hte hitbox for a while

[plain tundra]

A parrying crest would be neat

[frosty kelp]

but like last judge stitch exists

I just stand inside the fire ring and stitch her

[lavish glacier]

beast:

[frosty kelp]

beast with fury is so lenient with parries

[tight viper]

Is pogo dashing off the table for you

[lavish glacier]

frfr

[frosty kelp]

probably just the bigger hitbox

[plain tundra]

Not a crest to make parrying easier, a crest that rewards you for parrying

[frosty kelp]

I mean if they are mid attack

[slender zealot]

Hunter

[lavish glacier]

now THAT would be a dream come true

[plain tundra]

What’s the reward?

[lavish glacier]

not getting hit so u keep ur stacks ig

[frosty kelp]

you know cogwork dancers horizontal attack? If they go fully across the floor then you can parry cus they go fast enough to phase through. If they go from half the screen to the edge then you cna't parry cus they go too slow @tight viper

[hallow zodiac]

Guys I woke up to this from my bf on valentines morning

[lavish glacier]

aww thats so sweet

[frosty kelp]

ofc pogo dashing wouldn't work cus it's an attack

[plain tundra]

I think they might love you
Idk though

[frosty kelp]

good to have one 👍

[lavish glacier]

shameless of me ik but surely ive earned a sub?????

[hallow zodiac]

I’m trying to make a cake and I’ve considered making a cold one ,not a baked one

[slender zealot]

Parrying does double damage each time

[light swan]

you do?

[plain tundra]

Come again?

[frosty kelp]

in casual playthrough it's ok but getting hit by contact damage when you successfully needle parry is so stupid

[light swan]

ah

[frosty kelp]

2 actually

[slender zealot]

Until lost lace 1 parry destroy

[lavish glacier]

w tysm bro

[light swan]

honestly i can live with contact damage but im realizing how much it depends on the game youre playing

[faint dune]

Guys fav crest lemme know

[lavish glacier]

for that i gotta do a pass through run just for u

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-3134327606096542884

[tight viper]

Shaman

[slender zealot]

Wanderer/reaper

[frosty kelp]

bro it's ok I understand how much suffering it takes for these runs 😭

[lavish glacier]

nahhhh i insist

[plain tundra]

I use beast crest, contact damage is a way of life for me

[frosty kelp]

gl 😭 the problem is you only need karm to do multiple of those attacks which is gambling

[faint dune]

Wow that was a good question to ask

[frosty kelp]

beast cus best parry window and parry = dopamine

[faint dune]

I like wanderer and full evolved hunter tbh

[frosty kelp]

also witch is warding bind = dopamine

also witch is ELEGANT

[plain tundra]

“Beedrill used explosion”

[light swan]

for the first time everyone is respectful and it doesn’t cause crestslop discussion

[faint dune]

I did a speedrun to get the under 5 hour achievement so I got good at hunter

[frosty kelp]

the reason I went into pursuit of the parry was cus it was elegant

[lavish glacier]

reaper actually has a better parry window but beast just hits diff idek why

[tight viper]

Witch is my second favorite

[arctic epoch]

-#

[light swan]

see, explosion kills the user

witch bind heals the user 4 masks

[light swan]

wanderer is really cool btw

[frosty kelp]

yeah cus bigger hitbox but I'm pretty sure beast fury has bigger parry window cus even bigger range

[lavish glacier]

witch is so fricking annoying with the 0.0 smth delay on every swing

[faint dune]

Wanderer meta

[tight viper]

Beedrill?

[light swan]

i low-key need to use wanderer more itd addicting

[slender zealot]

No

[lavish glacier]

it sucks for parrying

[arctic epoch]

[frosty kelp]

me: who doesn't even use the ground attack and just spams spogos

[arctic epoch]

perhaps, i'll resist today

[light swan]

that’s fair and probably why i love witch so much

[slender zealot]

Wanderer is the best

[tight viper]

https://tenor.com/view/say-the-line-bart-school-millhouse-classroom-gif-26683141

[light swan]

i am thr d1 parry hater

[plain tundra]

☝️

[light swan]

and yea, you hardly want to be doing neutral attacks on witch lol

[frosty kelp]

always dash attack or spogo

[faint dune]

Me when I get longclaw: switches to wanderer crest

[light swan]

the only crest where neutral attacks are the suboptimal way

[frosty kelp]

I will never use witch to parry

witch parry window is so stupid 😭

[plain tundra]

Longclaw beast is nice too

[faint dune]

I can use it without I just like it with

[tight viper]

Longclaw Shaman is the best way to go

[lavish glacier]

aight imma head off was fun chatting if u wanna friend or smth ill dm u when i get that juicy run hehe

[faint dune]

Yeah ig I never used beast cause mid pogo

[frosty kelp]

erm actually the opportunity cost of slightly extra range but costs the blue tool slot is way too high and you should be using something else

[frosty kelp]

aight byee

[plain tundra]

Agree to disageee

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-14514797702729285380

[faint dune]

Ok

[lavish glacier]

farewell :)

[plain tundra]

Injector band is overkill so I’m using other stuff

[faint dune]

Cya

[frosty kelp]

I'm not gonna lie as much as I love beast pogo I understand how new players think and honestly beast pogo is just not for some people 😭 the i frame delay is actual garbage

[frosty kelp]

use druid eyes or claw mirrors imo or sawtooth cus duh

[arctic epoch]

-# Nah shit's too good to be true

Wanderer suckass

No.

The act of possessing a trait, a quality and an aspect and to be blown upon by a soul is far too much for the ashes of its prequel. Wanderer is nothing

A crutch, laziness and lackluster masked behind simplicity with a gimmick that can call a slot machine its father

Wanderer crest deserves to be tied by the 3 pillars and burned alive like a Witch.

[faint dune]

I’m not new, just never liked it

[frosty kelp]

I mean like if you've only beaten silksong once and not extensively experimented with all crests I still consider you new :))) no offense

[light swan]

slot machine

wanderers the best crest man idk what can i say

[faint dune]

Stfu u just never got good at hollow knight pogos and got used to hunter

[light swan]

💀

[frosty kelp]

ignore him tom is trying to ragebait you

[faint dune]

Ik but I can’t stand for that

[frosty kelp]

tom is a chill guy tho so if you ignore his ragebait then he's cool

[light swan]

never got good at hk pogos and got used to hunter is CRAZY work thats the first time i’ve heard that and is funny af

[frosty kelp]

he just really dislikes wanderer :)))

[arctic epoch]

Matter of fact, i declare the hypothesis of removing Wanderer as a concept

it doesn't deserve to exist.

[frosty kelp]

XD your formal way of speaking is so funny idk why

[light swan]

lets admit it mio crest is the best

[plain tundra]

No but actually longclaw is a lifesaver against pinstress

[tight viper]

Less Wanderer mains means more Shaman users, this is good

[arctic epoch]

MIO FUCKING SUCKS

-# never played MIO

[frosty kelp]

tbf wanderer as a concept is like team cherry pitying the new players who wanna play in hk playstyle

[frosty kelp]

ok that's just 😭

[arctic epoch]

[plain tundra]

MIO more like MID amirite (I’m wrong)

[light swan]

my least favorite part of mio is the parry and it’s one of the best parries i’ve seen in

[rocky lotus]

cant spell mio without mid

[frosty kelp]

guys do you have any tips for clawline in combat

I can't get used to it

[plain tundra]

Memories in Dorbit

[tight viper]

Snitch Pick

[frosty kelp]

ok good. Parry approved by illu probably means good 👍

[light swan]

2nd only to unbounded counter

[tight viper]

Unless it’s a memory boss, then snitch pick does nothing

[light swan]

it’s still my least favorite part of the game

[frosty kelp]

exactly that means the rest of the game only gets better

[plain tundra]

Thoughts on Beast Nail Strike?

[light swan]

true :D

and honestly

i am gaining appreciation for mio parry more

[frosty kelp]

I dislike all nail strikes so I also dislike beast nail strike but sometimes fury + slate + nail strike do chunky damage and chunky damage = me happy

[plain tundra]

Even reaper? Reaper’s nail strike is beefy

[frosty kelp]

I mean gameplay tips not tool

[tight viper]

Don’t clawline while you’re right next to something, be aware of what attacks and projectiles you can and can’t clawline I guess

[frosty kelp]

yeah I dislike reaper as well

[arctic epoch]

Disatrous

it will disappoint Newton for guiding humanity toward this wicked path of un-realism

[tight viper]

Idk I’m not good at giving gameplay advice

[frosty kelp]

is you a english major

[light swan]

yiu arent forced to use it unless youre cool and it’s worse for damage unless you make a parry build (which is sick as fuck) and the timing is different enough that it’s not a be all end all parry that trivializes everything you actually have to be conscious when using it

[tight viper]

Clawline combat just comes naturally to me

[frosty kelp]

ok talk me through how your brain works

[plain tundra]

I am be los englishman

[tight viper]

That won’t work

[frosty kelp]

also which bosses would you recommend using it against the most and which bosses you say aw hail nah

[light swan]

neuron receive signal neuron make signal

[arctic epoch]

Do you follow and put faith in the beliefs of stupidity called Wanderer?

No?

Yea.

[light swan]

Yea.

[frosty kelp]

you know what good piont

[tight viper]

Use it against everything that isn’t Voltvyrm or Sister Splinter

[tidal glade]

U can dash or jump immediately after hitting

[frosty kelp]

oh ok I see

[frosty kelp]

what does that mean

[tight viper]

Clawline does extra damage against Skull Tyrant so use it against em as well

[frosty kelp]

bruh une vie a t'aimer is stuck in my brain

[frosty kelp]

interesting

I always thought to not do that cus if he's running at you and you clawline you're cooked

ig you can clawline if he's charging the other way

[tight viper]

I think Skull Tyrant is the only enemy that just takes extra damage from clawline, it has really funky hitboxes

[arctic epoch]

-# i don't hate Wanderer, anyhow. It's just the immense inspiration within my truest nature. A long gone friend now hosted as another soul deep within my own, it's urging me to spread this bottomless hatred to all of mankind. To truly be free is to truly rid of purposes and reasons, to truly love is to truly despise. Or maybe, maybe i am now long past the left turn of my life. I will nevertheless continue to descend into this pit. For to stride with honest kindness, is to accept that striding by you - a bottomless hatred

Wanderer suckass

[tidal glade]

https://youtu.be/xLI1ZDqXg9Q?si=p3kko8h5HOl8NnEV

I better just show it XD

[mellow totem]

guys i got beast crest in act 2 with nail upg 2 lol

[frosty kelp]

guys he's using hit and run this is so cowardly >:(((((( anyway that's an interesting way to use clawline I always thought of it as pulling you in close then face dancing

[tight viper]

There’s a lot of opportunities to clawline em https://youtu.be/9DlxUPPlKDQ?si=6juPlUJQ6pnk8er4

[frosty kelp]

Clawline - the face dancing absolute radiance fight we never had

[frosty kelp]

no floor 😭

suscat reacting to this: BACK IN MY DAYS I HIDE TO FACE DANCING PURE VESSEL WITHOUT FLOOR OR WALL AND YOU NOW NEWBIES GET CLAWLINE TO DO NO FLOOR :((((

really good run

flea bounce but on steroids

[tight viper]

I’m in the floorless mindset so that’s part of why my advice isn’t the best for general clawline play

[frosty kelp]

OMG YOU NEEDLE PARRIED THE SHAMAN LOOKING ATTACK edit: twice edit again: thrice edit again: how do I say 4 times

[light swan]

juices are flowing

[tight viper]

I love parry pogoing lace

[frosty kelp]

omg

that's crazy

sadly it gives less dopamine cus it looks less like a blade clash and more like an accident

that upslash parry tho

[feral basin]

This is most embarrassing and horrific gameplay I've ever seen and I'm ashamed to say I did this

[light swan]

i try to parry her dashes for no reason

[tight viper]

That was rough

[frosty kelp]

dw bro you made someone laugh 😂

[light swan]

in the witch video i wws trying to play like a casual that’s why no circlet

[frosty kelp]

someone make this a gif for "average putrified ducts experience"

[light swan]

average shaman crest user

[feral basin]

good enough for me

[frosty kelp]

no don't slander

might have to use capcut to add the text

adding text is capcut is free

[feral basin]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-spiderman-walking-sad-spiderman-spiderman-spider-man-sad-spider-man-gif-3703119905849809936

[frosty kelp]

I think I'll just do it myself

won't have audio tho :////

[light swan]

:D dw i would never slander

all my gifs are compliments except for maybe the wanderer one

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-silksong-hk-hollow-gif-1049229918317041007

[frosty kelp]

illu any tips for getting e33 music out of your head

[frosty kelp]

damn that's the only way?

[light swan]

listen to monaco on loop

and lumiere

[frosty kelp]

nah for me it's une vie a t'aimer and rain from the ground

monoco still fire tho I play it at camp all the time

[tidal glade]

"big and majestic" isn't suited for Lumiére imo

Always have been playful or melancholy for me XD

[light swan]

une vie a t’aimer and lumiere are the only ones i can hear in my head rn

rain from the ground is peak too

[frosty kelp]

pls work

the editing is terrible ik

@feral basin your clip is now a gif to strike fear into new players who wanna go to putrified ducts

[feral basin]

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-bro-celebrating-best-friends-squid-game-2-my-guy-gif-8389215730122450876

[frosty kelp]

how dare new players enjoy putrified ducts!!!!

they must fear it

[feral basin]

saving that immediately

[frosty kelp]

actually hold on

I might wanna make the text black and the background white

🤔

[feral basin]

whetever you think is better its your GIF

[frosty kelp]

yeah I wanan make the text stand out

make the background black isn't stand out

[dry crater]

Every enemy in the fucking game doing 2 damage is lowkey making me go insane

[frosty kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-skong-sk-gif-9152098084645823068

interesting

[dry crater]

Ant queen whoopin my ass

[kind tide]

Why does it have a health bar

[frosty kelp]

ask illu he made the gif

jk it's a mod

[candid kayak]

manually edited in health bar

[frosty kelp]

trust

[kind tide]

Ill ask them

[rocky lotus]

what act are you in

[frosty kelp]

@feral basin eater I think this looks better

[kind tide]

@ilu

[dry crater]

3

[frosty kelp]

oh no I just noticed a tiny gap

[feral basin]

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

[candid kayak]

foolish, trying to attack the squit instead of just standing on the right and making it get eaten

god I wish barnaks killing them counted for the journal

[frosty kelp]

god damn it I'll make it one more time

[slender zealot]

Make the barnak eat the squit

[frosty kelp]

just fix the gap 😭 cus brain is annoyed

[feral basin]

I know right,,,, that guy sure was stupid..

[candid kayak]

as it stands they just steal the kill and deprive you of 1 kill for the journal notes

[slender zealot]

Worst things:
Primal aspid
Spit squit
Ductsucker
Barnak
Pv
Nkg
Nosk
Groal
Stilkin
Muckmaggot
Killing nailsmith
Killing pilby
Nyleth
Witch crest
Gargant gloom
Sister splinter adds
Muckroach
Pharlid diver
Mossgrub
Driznit

[frosty kelp]

believe it or not I suck at editing

[candid kayak]

lmao

[frosty kelp]

I think this is best

[rocky lotus]

pv and nkg...

[frosty kelp]

ignore the low quality

free capcut sucks

[slender zealot]

Barnaks can eat squits actually

[frosty kelp]

ofc I knew that

[rocky lotus]

pv and nkg next to nosk and barnak is crazy

[candid kayak]

never have I seen such comical ducts gameplay

[frosty kelp]

credit to @feral basin

[candid kayak]

lmfao

[feral basin]

wrong one

[frosty kelp]

wrong one

[feral basin]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[frosty kelp]

do you enjoy being a meme

[candid kayak]

is there two death eaters

[feral basin]

yus

[worthy lintel]

Omg sea of sorrow just shadow dropped

[mental arch]

the run to fleatopia is so evil

[frosty kelp]

there are a lot

[candid kayak]

oh dear

[slender zealot]

People find pv easy but nkg is actually hard

[rocky lotus]

i know its peak

[candid kayak]

...what

no I think you have that backwards

[frosty kelp]

wait actually? or are you trolling 😭 or did you make another insane kaizo for silksong

[dry crater]

Omgg you can get hit in ||skarrsingers|| scream for extra hits❤️‍🩹

Hollow knight tactics never leaving

[frosty kelp]

you can do it with every boss

[shy kettle]

is that my goat comet

[frosty kelp]

yup that's comet

[dry crater]

Havent done it with any other one

[frosty kelp]

the easiest one to do it with is cogwork dancers

[worthy lintel]

Oh wow

[slender zealot]

Whats the scream

I only know skull tyrant scream

[frosty kelp]

the one where they go aaaaaah and hornet is stunned

[slender zealot]

How can you hit them during scream

[candid kayak]

man my legs are sore from the gym yesterday

hurts to walk

[frosty kelp]

ignore gameplay watch scream skip

[worthy lintel]

If you intentionally position yourself so you get hit right after getting stunned, you regain control early

TC made it so that there’s basically one main bit of code for taking/returning player control and the last call takes priority

[slender zealot]

Isnt that useless

Like 2 hearts for 5 hits

[frosty kelp]

speedrunners

[ruby agate]

did y'all know that skynx is conveyed to be part of nosk's species

[mental arch]

wtf sea of sorrows shadow dropped

[worthy lintel]

You get extra hits in, it’s good for speedrun I think

[feral basin]

?? fr

[worthy lintel]

Ikr

[frosty kelp]

wait is this real

[slender zealot]

What is sea of sorrow shadow

[mental arch]

why is zote in pharloom

hes on a boat?

[ruby agate]

comet i have an idea for enemy rando mind if you listen to it 👀

[frosty kelp]

shadow dropped means drop without announcement

[mental arch]

in the pharloom bay thats so weird

[ruby agate]

idk why y'all want zoteboat im rooting for quirrel squirrel

[slender zealot]

So they cancelled it

[ruby agate]

no

[frosty kelp]

no it means release

[ruby agate]

😭

[frosty kelp]

without announcement

[finite swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450086968756535298/1472104165563174952/togif-6-1.gif

[slender zealot]

Wait how on steam too

[frosty kelp]

what a troll

[frosty kelp]

I think they are trolling

TC would not shadow drop stuff

[finite swift]

Quirrels entire life is already been explained in hk buddy

[ruby agate]

if sea of sorrow was out we'd have 5 everyone pings by now

[slender zealot]

Yeah

[regal isle]

https://tenor.com/view/larp-gif-3557207383533596840

[frosty kelp]

anyway so an example of TC shadow dropping stuff is not mentioning a change in patch notes

[finite swift]

Sea of Sorrow will destroy the servers of steam and the internet

[slender zealot]

Sea of sorrow today

[frosty kelp]

that's a shadow drop. Something updates without announcement(I think)

[regal isle]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-if-sorrow-silksong-tomorrow-hollow-knight-gif-12013056154277092895

[mental arch]

silksong killing steam was so funny

[slender zealot]

Sea of sorrow will make pc prices 4 times

[regal isle]

yeah

[mental arch]

i do not doubt team cherry to shadow drop the dlc on a random tuesday

[rocky lotus]

silksong2 will be so big it wipes out ALL technology on earth

[ruby agate]

at like 4 am everywhere cause they're australlian

[rocky lotus]

wtf is this image lol

[regal isle]

silksong squared

[finite swift]

Trobbio

[rocky lotus]

i like that guy

[regal isle]

oh yeah what about green trobio

[frosty kelp]

guys do you think deserves goty over e33

[rocky lotus]

it would be a shame if someone started hating him

[ruby agate]

yoooo they dropped a sea of sorrow teaser on xbox

[regal isle]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-hollow-knight-silksong-never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-green-gif-10038706922124382739

[rocky lotus]

yeah was pretty good

[mental arch]

i am from tel aviv and think e33 is the best game i have ever played 🇮🇱

[frosty kelp]

I agree ngl 😭

[regal isle]

honestly absrad w/ hornet isnt hard, the only problem is the big light beam attack

[mellow totem]

GUYS I GOT KIDNAPPED AND IM NAKED WHAT

[regal isle]

"i am a gamer from israel and this is my favourite game"

[finite swift]

goodluck bro

[ruby agate]

happens
that area is cool tho it has a radiance refight

[mellow totem]

RADIANCE?

[rocky lotus]

team cherry recycling old content like the lazy hacks they are

smh

[finite swift]

your buttcheeks are gonna be cold

[mental arch]

yeah its weird pantheon 5 is just there for some reason

[frosty kelp]

yeah sea of sorrow shadow dropped and we got a radiance fight

[regal isle]

not even normal rad, its absrad

[feral basin]

It took me a sec to realise the issue here ill be real

[regal isle]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-done-laptop-andy-gif-8313809

[mellow totem]

HORNET VS HORNET ABSOLUTE CINEMA

[ruby agate]

the hornet fight is replaced with the knight

anyway i made it to the final boss of p5 wish me luck

[mellow totem]

DAYUM HORNET SNAPPED THIS GUYS NECK AND I GOT MY STUFF BACK

[frosty kelp]

GL beating p5 so fast when it just released in silksong that's so 🔥

[regal isle]

lowk a lil off topic but, i hope the next crest they release has like 2 silk skill slots and 1 red slot, we need more silk skill hornet

[ruby agate]

power of the witch crest

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-3134327606096542884

[mental arch]

i hope it has 0 slots

[frosty kelp]

yes

[finite swift]

Hornet geniuelly wipes out Hallownest gameplay wise lowk

[frosty kelp]

introducing the cursed crest

[regal isle]

girl do i got a crest for u

[finite swift]

Im excited to play as her so muchhhhhh

[mellow totem]

guys im in mount fay

[mental arch]

yeah they need to add a crest with 0 slots that doesnt let you bind for challenge runners

[regal isle]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-6069929492524291916

[mellow totem]

it says i need to climb this thing it that hard

[frosty kelp]

mugiwara no ghost is in silksong for some reason I think zoro got lost and dropped luffy's hat and this lil ghost picked it up

[regal isle]

cursed cloakless

[ruby agate]

ok all silkposts aside i'd be really happy if we got the original hollow knight bosses in silksong in the godhome equivalent

[regal isle]

prolly when theres a hornet in hallownest mod

[mental arch]

i fear with hornets movement they would be disgustingly easy

[regal isle]

anyways guys ima head to sleep now

[tough minnow]

Fr

[mellow totem]

yea maybe

[regal isle]

gn fellas

[frosty kelp]

gn

[rocky lotus]

i dont think that will happen bc of how unbalanced it would be

like sharpdart is a must have for some bosses

[mental arch]

most of the later game hk bosses are balanced around u not being able to bind

hornet can bind midair and get 3 masks

[mellow totem]

i hate trobbio too i went on a whole training arc for him iand im gonna fight him but i got kidnapped to the slab

[ruby agate]

ok if team cherry doesnt do it the modding community can

[mental arch]

they already have

[ruby agate]

we already got absrad in silksong LMAO

[mental arch]

modded hornet into hk and modded knight into silksong

[ruby agate]

and the knight in silksong

they havent modded in hornet yet lmao

[finite swift]

I want hornet in hallownest dude

[tough minnow]

I still find hk bosses harder than sk bosses

Like absrad was so much harder compared to how ez lost lace was

[finite swift]

To be fair, Hollow Knight healing system is a bit slow

[rocky lotus]

i want a mod that combines both p5s when skongs comes out

[tough minnow]

That's true

[cinder yew]

if we get hornet in Hallownest every enemy must deal two masks of damage. even those bush Greenpath thingies

[rocky lotus]

so we have to fight 80+ bosses

[finite swift]

For gameplay wise, yeah,
though hornet aint really that weak since Pharloom is a whole different kingdom

[tough minnow]

The knight was a tank tho

[ruby agate]

silksong was way easier than hollow knight imo

[tough minnow]

Fax

[cinder yew]

I mean I think the idea is that Hornet is less resilient but more agile

[ruby agate]

i only got stuck on some bosses early game (mainly moorwing lmao) cause i had no idea what i was doing with the diagonal pogo
and then after that every boss took 1 hour and a half max

[finite swift]

10 mask vs 9 mask

[tough minnow]

I think it's because that we have more movement options and a way to make a build depending on our preferred playstyle

[ruby agate]

i didnt use red tools at all was that js me

[earnest drift]

10 masks + 1 stronger than normal mask vs 11 masks

[rocky lotus]

i beat pantheon 5 like 2 days before skong so it was really easy for me

[tough minnow]

I only used flintslate and Cogflies

[earnest drift]

i think hornet might beat the knight in dps too but only with architect tool spam

[ruby agate]

i only used like

conchcutters cause they were fun to use LMAO

[tough minnow]

Frfrrr

[finite swift]

False Knight vs 19 volt vessels

[ruby agate]

i know they're ass but cmon dude its conchcutters

[tough minnow]

They are good when using on enemies with big hitboxes

[earnest drift]

conchcutters are quite good actually

[tough minnow]

Yess

Destroys groal

[earnest drift]

the big three of red tools are curvesickle, voltvessels and conchcutter
the first two are bad when fighting a small hitbox like lost lace but conchcutter stays useful

[rocky lotus]

careful tool usage makes groal quite easy honestly

[ruby agate]

cogflies are my least favorite tool cause like

im not having fun when i use them they're playing the game for me i dont want that

[tough minnow]

I never found him to be that hard on my first playthrough

[ruby agate]

i know they're busted but whats the fun in that

hello architect mains!

[finite swift]

I never used any red tool other than the silkshot lowk

[rocky lotus]

he was the only boss i cheesed

i got fed up with his bullshit

[tough minnow]

I only use them when I backtrack, very useful with annoying enemies aswell

[tough minnow]

That's valid

[kind tide]

Erm, guys?

[tough minnow]

Man I wish I could play sk for the first time again

[kind tide]

Can someone post the hornet dunking gif pls 🙂

[true lodge]

this HAS to be preset

[ruby agate]

y'all was it valid for me to take 100 hours to beat silksong

[kind tide]

Yes

[ruby agate]

like 20 hours were on bosses
the rest were me tearing up exploring this game LMAO

[rocky lotus]

it took me 80 to beat it

[tough minnow]

On my first playthrough I only finished act 1 in 50 hours

[ruby agate]

SAME LMAO

[rocky lotus]

i tried to explore every nook and cranny

[kind tide]

I spent at least, minimum, 100 hours on the lava pool rising platform hell without any upgrades because I am a clown

[finite swift]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-hollow-knight-hornet-gif-2304813690984408828

[kind tide]

[tough minnow]

Amazing peakk

[ruby agate]

was itt also valid for me to tear up in some parts of this game

might sound corny as hell but cmon dawg

[kind tide]

SHAW 🏀

[kind tide]

Same 😭

[tough minnow]

I cried when I finished act 3

[finite swift]

cried when hallownest was mentioend

[ruby agate]

dude after like playing for like 2 hours and making it to deep docks shakra room i just kinda like

stood there for 10 minutes being happy LMAO

[true lodge]

well

[tough minnow]

Lost lace OST mixed with that cutscene after beating her made me tear up

[ruby agate]

i didnt move or shit i was just standing there in awe of the game

[tough minnow]

Faxxx

[finite swift]

Forebrothers when 5 smolt shovelers falls into a pit of lava and deep docks is a major safety hazard

[tough minnow]

What's y'all's fav area in sk

[finite swift]

verdania and in m ybum

[rocky lotus]

mount fay or choral chambers

[ruby agate]

greymoor

[tough minnow]

Verdania was so nice

[ruby agate]

-# crows are my favorite animals)

dude crawfather is top 3 bosses in the game you cannot tell me otherwise

[tough minnow]

Greymoor was like my city of tears experience

[ruby agate]

i know the rain in greymoor is silk but i headcanon it being bile from bilewater LMAO

[tough minnow]

Choral chambers music so good

[slender zealot]

Is sea of sorrow shadow dropped

[rocky lotus]

yeah its out right now

[slender zealot]

Are you sure

Or you checked

[rocky lotus]

im stuck on the lifelight boss tho

[finite swift]

im going to throw a bucket of water on you

[tough minnow]

Is sea of sorrow gonna be free dlc like in hk?