sk-discussion

[arctic epoch]

I mean Clawline exist but alright

[low wasp]

This is the night mail crossing the border

[blissful rampart]

Beast crest gives you more options in that case lol

[barren dew]

What's your first

[blissful rampart]

Huh?

[tight viper]

Shaman

[barren dew]

Based

[blissful rampart]

I love Shaman except for the sprint attack

[tight viper]

Silk skills or no, it's just so damn fun to use

[blissful rampart]

Fr

[arctic epoch]

Well Beast's pogo wouldnt allow you to continuously stay in the air

[low wasp]

Letters for the rich, letters for the poor, the shop with the corner and the girl nextdoor

[dull ermine]

it's not that boring

[barren dew]

Truth nuke

[blissful rampart]

Uh, yes it does? tf you talking bout?

[dull ermine]

actually nvm it is but it's pretty good considering it's low skill

[arctic epoch]

Lame compared to the rest of the cast

[void moat]

dude there's like a 1h+ long video of a fanmade ost for pharloom based on what they showed in the trailers and it's all a banger

[dull ermine]

what about reaper which is literally the run away and hide crest

[arctic epoch]

Well it does, what i meant is continuously damage the enemy in air, mb

[blissful rampart]

I lowkey don't like HK's melee system

[low wasp]

What is it called?

[void moat]

https://youtu.be/Qyst6xqEgJ4?si=UxefwdeLcfph76CB

[blissful rampart]

Beast Crest can do exactly that? Unless you're refering to using circlet?

[arctic epoch]

Has a gimmick, has techs and 2 red tool

Literally impose a more niche playstyle compared to Wanderer

[void moat]

it’s very different from tc’s style of music but it’s very good

[dull ermine]

yeah but it's also a terrible crest tho

its gimmick is negligble

[arctic epoch]

Well pogo, move, pogo seems like a pretty huge gap in the continuous so im sorry

[blissful rampart]

I will show you

[arctic epoch]

It being only a decent crest compared to the other crests doesn't take anyway any of its personality value

[blissful rampart]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4iNL_tkHrTs?si=pTB7lLaL115wNIiV

[void moat]

sharpe's theme in this is soo good

[hazy schooner]

Is rune rage good?

[dull ermine]

don't hate on beast crest, it's pretty good (in everything but exploration)

[void moat]

it's pretty bad

[blissful rampart]

Beast Crest is fine in exploration imo once you get the hang of using its pogo

[tidal hearth]

Is gacha your favorite genre of games?

[hazy schooner]

Dang
What else I should use?

[void moat]

what do you have rn

[arctic epoch]

Doesnt seem that continuous to me, there is gaps in between

[dull ermine]

yeah but just use any other crest, also the heal is bad

[plain tundra]

Pogo aside, needing to attack to heal makes it objectively one of the worst

[blissful rampart]

Skill issue

[dawn leaf]

flintfury is incredibly broken

[dull ermine]

like you can use it but just use hunters if you want agility which is the only good thing about the beast pogo

[hazy schooner]

Silk spear thread storm stich cross

[arctic epoch]

The facetank:

[void moat]

thread storm and cross stitch are probably the best you have rn

id go thread storm personally but all of those three are good so it depends on preference

[blissful rampart]

Yall seriously think the heal for Beast Crest is bad?

[hazy schooner]

Alr where do I get the poilp pouch byw

[dull ermine]

for exploration definitely, I would rather use any other crest

[dull ermine]

worst blue tool in the game btw

[plain tundra]

No it’s great
But not when you’re doing a platform section with little to no things to hit

[blissful rampart]

What about Witch Crest?

[blissful rampart]

Fair enough

[dull ermine]

witch, architect and beast are bad for exploring but beast is the worst

[hazy schooner]

It's badd??

[dull ermine]

I personally just wouldn't use them

[brave geyser]

yay

[arctic epoch]

Its not, mfs just love to mixmax in here, go to #sk-help for serious help

[plain tundra]

I’d say architect is actually really good for courier missions

[dull ermine]

don't watch the cutscene so u can play it again

[barren dew]

How is it a skill issue when someone points out certain stuff that can be found hard by other players

[brave geyser]

more than bad: it doesn't work.

[dawn leaf]

ok this is false
it's b+ at best, c- at worst
not the worst blue tool

[brave geyser]

regardless you just collect like 6 pollip hearts around the shellwood area

[blissful rampart]

That's exactly what a skill issue is lmao

[brave geyser]

@rich herald

[dull ermine]

ok yeah wispfire and snitch pick are probably worse

[barren dew]

For pointing out certain points alot of people also...have a hard time dealing with it? Okaaay

[arctic epoch]

I mean skill issue means having a struggle as you attempt harder things

The internet just take it as an offense lately

[barren dew]

@rich herald

GOODNIGHT!!!

[arctic epoch]

Snitch picks give you +25% dmg on clawline, wym worse?

[barren dew]

[brave geyser]

Gn holly

[dull ermine]

no one uses clawline, and if you are one of the rare few that do use clawline consistently enough there's better options for damage

[blissful rampart]

Correct, Beast Crest has both a high skill ceiling and skill floor

[barren dew]

Hehe no.... it's not 4 am...........

[blissful rampart]

Which again, makes it a skill issue

[brave geyser]

and there's 3 blue tools
Volt filament sawtooth circlet snitch peak
Done

i do live in egypt it's 4:42 too

Goobmight

[arctic epoch]

Yeah.. but it doesn't make Clawline a worse tool than Pollip?

[brave geyser]

Sorry i have a run to complete

[arctic epoch]

If only the best option is good, everyone would run Volt by now

[barren dew]

It's still hard for lots of players tho, it's not a skill issue it's more of a preferences or what the person is usually used to or how easy they can get used to certain crests

[dull ermine]

egg, longclaw, injector band, multibinder, reserve bind, quicksling are all substantially better than snitch pick

[barren dew]

Goodnight!!!!

EXACTLY

[arctic epoch]

Longclaw being better than Snitch Pick?

We are doomed

[dull ermine]

beast crest actually has a low skill ceiling

[barren dew]

[dull ermine]

the whole playstyle is just facetanking

[blissful rampart]

So you're trying to tell me that if a Wanderer's Crest user were to consistently practice using the Beast Crest that they just wouldn't get good at using it?

[brave geyser]

Longclaw barely works tbh
Injector bands and multininder are not for damage
Quicksling well why would i use that anyway
egg is the only reasonable one

[tight viper]

I smell Snitch Pick slander

[plain tundra]

There are only a few bad blue charms
Inversely there are only a few good yellow charms

[dull ermine]

yes it is...

[tight viper]

Snitch Pick is the most underrated tool in the entire game, it's very good

[brave geyser]

longclaw only works on wanderer lol

[blissful rampart]

And possibly even find it better than Wanderer's Crest once they properly learn how to use it's mechanics to fullest extent

[arctic epoch]

How so..? A few pixels increase in range is better than +25% damage on a universal ability that you can use to close distance?

Snitch Pick makes your needle deal 20~ damage

[brave geyser]

Genuienly 25% damage is freaking amazing

[tight viper]

Those extra hits will add up quite quickly

[barren dew]

They can, but it could take a while depending on the person, there is people who still don't get used to reaper for an example

[dull ermine]

it's mark of pride bro....

[tight viper]

mark of pride isn't that good

[brave geyser]

Ima be very honest i can't play hk without longnail or mark of pride
However i get sick of using longclaw in sk. Is that weird?

[tight viper]

It's neat, I like it, but range doesn't matter that much

[arctic epoch]

Thank god this isnt HK and we don't need an obvious increase in range to hit our enemies

[dull ermine]

snitch pick increases your clawline damage by 5, 99% of players don't even use clawline in combat anyways

[brave geyser]

It's mark of pride without the pride part

mark

[tidal hearth]

Then you are simply based. One of the best decision i made in HK, was giving up on all length modifiers.

[dull ermine]

also teh point of clawline isn't extra damage it's staying in the air

[barren dew]

I sometimes forget to use tools lowkey

[blissful rampart]

Reaper Crest players would be in love

[arctic epoch]

99% of people not being able to afford the best PC or Console ever doesn't make jt bad?

[tight viper]

And? People not using clawline doesn't make it bad, nor does it make snitch pick bad

[patent cosmos]

who here wants to see Hornet and Shakra kiss

[dull ermine]

for the 1% of players that do there's objectively better options

[blissful rampart]

It can still function as extra damage

[brave geyser]

that's like saying egg is bad because no one uses it

[tight viper]

Sawtooth, sure

[brave geyser]

ik but like

[dull ermine]

circlet, filament, egg, pin badge and any survivability tool are all better options at the high level

[tight viper]

Have you even tried using snitch pick?

[brave geyser]

it just doesn't work for me. If anything it just feels very off

[arctic epoch]

Pin badge & Longclaw better than Snitch Pick?

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[dull ermine]

how many times do you clawlien in a battle

[barren dew]

I kinda can't tell the difference between using Longclaw and not using it, I feel like it's hard to tell

[tight viper]

Give snitch pick a try, you'll realize how good it is

[brave geyser]

it's only good for wanderer pogo imo

[tight viper]

Just give clawline combat a try in general

[arctic epoch]

10+

[tight viper]

Everyone should, clawline combat is absolutely peak

[plain tundra]

Let’s play find the tierlist where Mark of Pride isn’t A or S

[barren dew]

So it seems more visible when used in pogo?

[blissful rampart]

Especially when you chain it with other attacks

[arctic epoch]

#sk-discussion message

[barren dew]

I don't use it at all honestly

[brave geyser]

yea that's only really where iam ok with using longclaw
Any other crest though i just don't like it

[dull ermine]

MOP is amazing on wanderers, hunters, beast, those get substantial range increases

[tight viper]

It's in the same vein as things like compass or grubsong, it's just a nice little quality of life thing. Range doesn't really help much in HK

It's not bad, but it's not that good

[dull ermine]

longclaw gets nerfed on witch/shaman tho

[arctic epoch]

Longclaw isn't Mark of Pride god damn it, not every crest has a suckass range like Wanderer

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-witch-crest-sawtooth-circlet-sawtooth-circlet-gif-9051854759941621799

[barren dew]

I actually never try to use it cuz I feel like it takes space and also harder to tell if it's equipped or not

[brave geyser]

BUG YURI

[plain tundra]

Thank you The Bug Yuri Person

[patent cosmos]

OMG me too!!!

[graceful oyster]

That's actually genuinely not the one I meant to hit

[arctic epoch]

Why the FPS?

[brave geyser]

Yea it's just weird considering it's supposed to be more than MoP

[barren dew]

Fr

[patent cosmos]

hornet and Shakra are such a cute couple

[arctic epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[graceful oyster]

24 fps is what I generally choose for gifs and stuff

Keeps it reasonable

[tidal hearth]

The real ship.

[dull ermine]

ts less dmage than just hitting and circleting normally for any other crest

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-wolf-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-wolf-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-puss-in-boots-death-wolf-slow-gif-27423369

[arctic epoch]

Ts only apply to Wanderer

No you cant farm passive on Beast or Hunter

Which circles back to my original point, why the fuck does such a lame ass crest gets to have better output than the rest of the cast?

[blissful rampart]

Looks way more fun tho lmao

[tight viper]

relevant tier list

[plain tundra]

Imagine showing this to a hollow knight player in 2020 with no context

[patent cosmos]

Yeah!

[brave geyser]

We are facedancing ANYTHING atp

[arctic epoch]

Egg of Flealia in B tier? We are doomed

[patent cosmos]

But Hornet x Second Sentinel is pretty cool too

[tight viper]

That's B

[arctic epoch]

Still doomed

[brave geyser]

yea egg is B low A

I like that

[tight viper]

There's like 8 or so tools here I just don't use/know enough about to rank fairly

[open plaza]

Egg is so add

[dull ermine]

egg deserves a b

[arctic epoch]

EGG IS TOP S, YALL ARE FRAUDS

[tight viper]

Egg's one of them

[open plaza]

Ahh

[plain tundra]

Cogfly in the same tier as Barbed Brace?
Don’t get me wrong damage boost are nice, but cogflies are literally free damage

[dull ermine]

stop basing tierlists based on perfect gameply

barbed deserves f tier

[tight viper]

They're boring as hell and incredibly overrated imo

[brave geyser]

YOU deserve F tier

[tidal hearth]

All ships between friendly warriors are cool.

[plain tundra]

Ah, so it’s ranked by fun?

[tight viper]

Ranked by how good they are, how much I like them, etc.

[dull ermine]

barbed bracelet actively makes the game so much more dangerous

[blissful rampart]

Should put magnetite dice in S tier. Also, where is barbed bracelets?

[dull ermine]

why don't speedrunners get it on the mist route?

[plain tundra]

A subjective tierlist, gotcha

[cerulean sable]

The Choir should convert some Bell Beasts into IFVs

[arctic epoch]

Thank god i rank tools based on how effective they are in combat

[barren dew]

I actually didn't try to make a tier list of tools brb

[brave geyser]

because it isn't that much damage increase with 1 needle upgrade

[dull ermine]

no, it does save time they're just not fcking lunatics

[brave geyser]

it's good around needle 2-3 imo

[patent cosmos]

Who do y’all ship Hornet with

[brave geyser]

Not quite honestly it just doesn't do much on the first 2 needle versions

[plain tundra]

Pimpillos my beloved

[void moat]

hmm... vaultkeeper cardinius x relickeeper scrounge.....

[tight viper]

Top of B, ranking dice is weird because of how yellow tools are in general compared to everything else imo

[tidal hearth]

TEAM CHERRY TAKE NOTES RIGHR NOW

[plain tundra]

I love that autism noodle

[arctic epoch]

Because speedrun requires enduring long segments of optimized movement and combat? Thus getting a tool that puts you into an even worse skill check in a somewhat hour-long run where one death means time loss is generally not considered until some mad fucker decides to say fuck it for that extra 2 minutes?

[blissful rampart]

I meannn it's one of the best yellow tools lmao

[tidal hearth]

We need some war shit between actually intelligent bugs

[patent cosmos]

What about Twelfth Architect?

[tight viper]

this is true, but I'm comparing dice to every other tool in the game

[void moat]

wdym

[blissful rampart]

Ohhh

[brave geyser]

yea no barbed is just so good outside of exploration

[dull ermine]

then put every yellow tool in f tier?

[tight viper]

why would I do that?

[arctic epoch]

Yeah, that only pushes my point further

Barbed Bracelet is a great combat tool for the minority of players

Speedrunning is speed-playing the game, not fuckass Pantheon 5 No Hit

[plain tundra]

Actual masochism for the average player

[tight viper]

It's a tier list not a binary Good/Bad list

[plain tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-purple-guy-peepaw-gif-24730406

[dull ermine]

because they're useless if you're comparing them to other tools

[arctic epoch]

Every tool is fucking F tier atp, im out

[tidal hearth]

Like actual war. Soldiers attacking against other bugs in a final clash.

[tight viper]

That isn't how that works, boss

[patent cosmos]

Ooh I haven’t seen Eva yet but I like it

[tidal hearth]

I mean true. Thats why i dont use tools. Simple fix.

[patent cosmos]

Karmelita?

[void moat]

closest is karak, khann built up his own genuine military

[graceful oyster]

Ourple!!!!

[dull ermine]

also cogflies are good, because they're 600 free damage on every single boss fight in the game

[tight viper]

Cogflies are boring and overrated as fuck

[tidal hearth]

TRUE! Hornet you bastard arrived in pharloom too late...

[plain tundra]

It’s such a shame Snare Setter is permanently lost in act 3

[blissful rampart]

Why do I lowkey feel like you're an architect crest player

[dull ermine]

I agree but they're still broken in the sense that they give free damage for absolutely nothing

[plain tundra]

I didn’t even use it once

[dull ermine]

hunters

[blissful rampart]

Oh damn

[dull ermine]

used architects for some risky fights in steel soul tho

but hunters is a lot more fun

[tight viper]

Don't care about that too much

[void moat]

old heart polycule would be cool but personally i dont see clover dancers partaking in it

[blissful rampart]

Fair enough

[void moat]

all the love in his heart is used up for his husband methinks

[blissful rampart]

I've never actually used Architect Crest lmao

[cobalt pilot]

who panged me

[plain tundra]

Only fight I’ve actively relied on cogflies for was Tormented Trobbio

[arctic epoch]

If you main Hunter.. why would you say Barbed Bracelets is bad now

I take that you dont use the crest at its best potential?

[tight viper]

Also where'd you get 600 from?

[cobalt pilot]

i cant find it on laptop

[blissful rampart]

Valid lmao

[dull ermine]

u can load 4 extra cogflies since they go with you, so you end up having 12 in total

[tight viper]

8 cogflies dealing 50 damage total is 400

oh right yeah

[plain tundra]

For all Trobbio’s charm, I do not like his second fight

[arctic epoch]

Gives access to technically strogest damage burst in the game

[blissful rampart]

His second fight got me like a calamity boss fight in Terraria fr

[runic crypt]

Guys Hollow Knight 3 when

[cobalt pilot]

gosh i wish i hadnt slept through class the other day

can i be ourple too

i kmnow my name isnt ourple BUT

[blissful rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/time-timecard-spongebob-later-gif-3570175

[cobalt pilot]

why is there message cooldown

[brave geyser]

true ending under 5 hours surely

[graceful oyster]

Not if you're ourple

[plain tundra]

Yep

[tight viper]

Oh wait I totally forgot Cogflies can sing and sleep and shit, I'll move them up to A somewhere

[void moat]

ive found two amazing silksong fan songs today theyre so good

[plain tundra]

This guy gets it

[cobalt pilot]

i am neverf willingly spending money on nitro im sorry

[brave geyser]

[graceful oyster]

There is a good answer to this gimme a sec

[brave geyser]

hk
Well true ending and a bunch of other stuff

Surely i can get 100% in the next 30 minutes

that's the neat part

[void moat]

https://youtu.be/Qyst6xqEgJ4?si=L59yQ08WAoUCuoDA everyone has to listen to this it’s so good

[dull ermine]

it will also never be less than 600 damage, they deserve S tier

[brave geyser]

I don't know :D

that's time loss tho

[dull ermine]

boring asf and I don't think TC should've added them but they're still broken

[brave geyser]

oh come on have a little faith in me

I have pure nail that's something

[wary trench]

MOOOOOOOAAAAAANNNNNNN

[brave geyser]

like 70% idk

[graceful oyster]

Markoth?

[wary trench]

How r yall

[void moat]

https://youtu.be/IlEQPjJZBOM?si=6w6JggSrM_j6NdLX there’s this too, probably the best silksong fan song ive heard thus far

[brave geyser]

1% a minute

[cobalt pilot]

i hate adobe illustrator 🥹

[brave geyser]

i am forgetting a bunch of easy charms so surely

[graceful oyster]

Or Kingsmould

Up to you

[cobalt pilot]

i had to buy a YEARLONG subscription for a four month class

heard they're shutting animate down too

[dawn leaf]

adobe products on the seven seas

[thorn grotto]

how it feels to immediately recognise the soundfonts as sine factory orchestra:

[tight viper]

good theme

[cobalt pilot]

no you have to pay for everything in college basically

[brave geyser]

Look iam doing the optimize isn't that so sigma

[cobalt pilot]

except for unity on the school computers

[void moat]

it doesnt soun alot like larkin's work but it's all so good and the fact that it's 1 hour of music is insane

sharpe's theme in their rendition is really nice

[cobalt pilot]

my ART teachers are using ai

[thorn grotto]

oh no I meant just the soundfonts, the music itself is good obv, it's just that I use the same soundfont pack so I immediately picked it up lmao

[dawn leaf]

i like the way that the sands of karak's leitmotif is incorporated

[void moat]

ah yeah

[cobalt pilot]

it is not that hard to find a poem online

in the USA at least

[void moat]

just play hollow knight, hollow knight has a poem

[cobalt pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-monkey-think-monkey-meme-ponder-monkey-idea-gif-6401133862108294696

[hallow lintel]

Im having fun with it

[void moat]

sucks how adobe is shutting down animate

[cobalt pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-dwayne-johnson-raised-eyebrow-gif-6506694932635492760

[near mirage]

Mrbeast

the final boss of hollow knight silksong is mrbeast not lost lace

[tight viper]

pay to win

[near mirage]

Greed

[cobalt pilot]

ELITISM

[near mirage]

act 4 is so hard yall

[void moat]

oh zaaaaalll!!!!!!

[cobalt pilot]

my facorite moment had to be in act 7 when kris killed Lace

[runic crypt]

This is the best discord server

[barren dew]

🙁

[opaque sigil]

snitch pick in D 😔

[cobalt pilot]

zill

[barren dew]

🙁

[near mirage]

and then unithor indie cross became a good guy

[cobalt pilot]

beautiful tierlist

[worldly marlin]

my birthday's tomorrow yall should fr buy me some games

[void moat]

why is conchcutter in B ill kill you

[barren dew]

I honestly don't use it

[cobalt pilot]

the best tierlist anyone has anyone posted in this channel

[opaque sigil]

fair

[barren dew]

EVEN YOU STOP

[void moat]

https://giphy.com/gifs/positive-correlation-sirclues-UlylZbxhoFblTh2k7i

[barren dew]

YAAAAAAAYYYYYYY TYSSSMM

[tight viper]

I probably can't convince you to move Snitch Pick to the top of S, but at least move up the Straight Pin. It's decent for how early you can get it, doesn't deserve to be considered from an endgame perspective

[void moat]

how about my tierlist chat

[near mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-cat-skarrsinger-wife-wife-karmelita-gif-13507769028557169095

[barren dew]

I'm not going to show you guys anything AGAIN

[near mirage]

why is father of the flame in S tier dawg

[dawn leaf]

ok i disagree with a couple of these like silkshots and claw mirrors but other than that it's pretty good (also move flintslate up, it's broken)

[opaque sigil]

mid ragebait everyone knows that stupid boss doesn't belong in S tier, khann is so lame

[barren dew]

ISN'T B A GOOD THING

[void moat]

im clueless as to who youre talking about, hornet isnt on this list

[fiery burrow]

second sentinel and lugoli b tier ngl i think they're fun

[dawn leaf]

flintfury on beast is also really broken

[tight viper]

Beast uses the Needle Phial, you silly goose

[barren dew]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-1879411192175791821

[cobalt pilot]

honestly i think yall would hate my tierlist

[near mirage]

i have an idea for a crest
prince crest (based off of zote and GPZ)
three slots for everything (including skills) but you take double damage from everyrhing (yes EVERYTHING)

[tight viper]

can't be that bad

[cobalt pilot]

i dont optimize builds i just do whatever

[void moat]

he's a dictator, not a racist..

[dawn leaf]

do you mean plasmium phial? needle phial is objectively the worst red tool in the entire game

[void moat]

honestly id put second sentinel higher in hindsight, i think theyre pretty cool

[regal isle]

bind deletes all masks

[barren dew]

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE UNDER I FORGOT

[tight viper]

nah I meant Needle Phial, it's used to nerf Beast because it needs one

[cobalt pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[opaque sigil]

would def put it above lugoli

[near mirage]

bind only heals one mask and costs all of your silk (ALL of it)

[fiery burrow]

Neat fight neat character good design

[brave geyser]

92% there's a chance

[barren dew]

I didn't actually put anything it was like this

Only the never use option

[fiery burrow]

Better than Lugoli but Lugoli is fire don't diss the goat

[cobalt pilot]

chat what should i draw instead of doing homework

[void moat]

yeah i made the tierlist pretty fast so id probably move a few around, i think lace, phantom etc are too low

[near mirage]

Crust king khann ❌
Clover dancers ❌
Skarrsinger Karmelita ✅
Nyleth ❌
Jonkler ☠️

[barren dew]

YOU GUYS HATE ME STOP this is why I never show my tier lists

[brave geyser]

[opaque sigil]

lugoli is ok

[cobalt pilot]

I LOVE YOUR TIERLOIST

[fiery burrow]

I was plowing through everything on a modded pantheon with beast and injector bands and Lugoli and Shakra were the only ones to humble me

(Shakra sucks though)

[cobalt pilot]

naything BUT THK im sorry

[tight viper]

draw Alomomola if it were in Pharloom

[void moat]

wisp thicket lore is tuff

[barren dew]

When your goat always has your back 🥹

[dawn leaf]

i like 85% of your list lol

[near mirage]

wisp thiccket

[cobalt pilot]

i love it but i want to draw like idk sometijng else

[runic crypt]

Silksong lore goes deep

[barren dew]

I'm joyous now YAAAAAY

[rocky jolt]

father of the flame is void theory

[near mirage]

cogwork yaoi

[void moat]

https://giphy.com/gifs/men-suit-man-Zh1Y8R0Sn4pwsEm6xP

[cobalt pilot]

ok ill let you fight to the death amongst yourselves over what i should draw

[near mirage]

clover yaoi

[barren dew]

I honestly like claw mirrors cuz they saved me sometimes in stupid situations

[void moat]

well technically the cogwork dancers are just one guy, clover yaoi is better

[near mirage]

oh yeah true

[opaque sigil]

what did tc mean by this

[cobalt pilot]

ok drawing with trackpad

[barren dew]

I like to call her bonbug

[void moat]

self love or something

[opaque sigil]

I viscerally hate this emoji and I can't explain why

[austere linden]

RNG boss aggression is a massive pain

[barren dew]

I honestly got confused on where to put it because I EXACTLY THOUGHT OF THIS

[tight viper]

I personally put it in B tier

[barren dew]

🙁

[cobalt pilot]

im SOBBING why is the color wheel so small

[finite swift]

hello silskon

[opaque sigil]

it's almost like tier lists strip away nuance and aren't a great way to actually evaluate things

[void moat]

on first glance i thought this was some evil fish man screaming like a creepypasta

[finite swift]

sssilkkkksonngggg

[eager creek]

Good afternoon sk-discussion, I am facing a dilemma on whether to do my assignments or continue procrastinating and play video game instead

[barren dew]

It's those stupid orbs I wish I could get nitro to be PURPLE

[tight viper]

nah, tier lists are great because the best tier is S and snitch pick is shaped like an S so it goes to the top

[opaque sigil]

true true

[finite swift]

silskonsg X subnatica when

[barren dew]

Tammo do you HATE me

And here you are putting Zote low.....okokok ok

[void moat]

https://youtu.be/IlEQPjJZBOM?si=6w6JggSrM_j6NdLX will be peddling this song for a solid two days before i forget about it

[opaque sigil]

yes I am hereby declaring you personally responsible for every evil in the world you'll be hearing from my legal team imminently

[barren dew]

Porpol

[tight viper]

it's definitely an interesting list

[void moat]

possessed by the purple guy they will kill whoever they plea ee e ease

[barren dew]

☹️ 🙁

[eager creek]

And why he ourple?

[barren dew]

PUT BOTH ZOTES UP

NOWWWWWW

[dawn leaf]

i disagree with nkg and cogwork dancers (should be higher imo) but other than that i agree

[cobalt pilot]

never drawing on this thing again

[barren dew]

WHAT IS HAPPENING

[regal isle]

i see shakra but whats that pinkt hing

[opaque sigil]

is that supposed to be seer

[cobalt pilot]

i cant believe you didnt ping me for this im killing you

ourple THK 🥹 🥹 🥹

[finite swift]

is that supposed to be that moth

[regal isle]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-lean-lean-machine-generator-the-hollow-knight-gif-24953738

[merry quiver]

i keep expecting lace 1 to use lace 3s moves lol

[cobalt pilot]

no

[regal isle]

quadruple multislash

[cobalt pilot]

its MY moth

[merry quiver]

i was expecting the tendrils from the floor after every single dash lmao

[cobalt pilot]

idk i started to draw second sentinel but then it turnd into shakra btu its ASS because im drawing with a trackpad

[merry quiver]

tragic

[rocky jolt]

pollip phial

[cobalt pilot]

i have to go and either do homework or sit on the couch and stare at the wall for three hours. ta ta

[brave geyser]

I need 4% more in 10 minutes

Iam cooked

[barren dew]

I'M CRYING IT'S OKAY

[merry quiver]

ive only said green prince 6 times in this server, that seems low

[void moat]

i need to draw more

[merry quiver]

oof, what percents?

[drowsy frigate]

hello my silkbros

[barren dew]

GOODNIGHT ROSE

[merry quiver]

sawtooth is a bit low and pollip is a bit high, also reserve bind is crazy low

[opaque sigil]

looks mostly reasonable even if some stuff is a litttle weird like rosary cannon in A, it's really funny though so maybe deserves it anyways

[broken seal]

💀

[merry quiver]

😭 not togore

[brave geyser]

Hk

[barren dew]

Yes you will see this propaganda and follow it

[brave geyser]

i will infact not skin you alive and feed you to groal

[barren dew]

Seems like SOMEONE IS planning to

[tight viper]

skinning people alive is boring and mean

[brave geyser]

iam feeding your ahh to the great gourmand instead

[broken seal]

Pollip pouch in A tier 💀🙏

[merry quiver]

skin bro and toss her in the maggots

[worldly marlin]

me please 🙋

[barren dew]

????????????

[brave geyser]

you are irrelevant

[merry quiver]

pollip adds like 6 dps 🥀

[tight viper]

why skin people alive when you can play Putt Putt Saves the Zoo

[opaque sigil]

"It's free damage" or something

[worldly marlin]

hey that's not very nice 😕

[broken seal]

it's so ass 😭

[merry quiver]

a blue slot is not worht 6 dps

[opaque sigil]

which makes it not even free

[celest cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-low-tier-god-ltg-gif-4022085103641635431

[tight viper]

it's not even 6 dps that's the total damage, it's more like 2 or something

[barren dew]

It has been doing good for me idk

[worldly marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1422294323466207393/caption-2.gif

[celest cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-zgn-low-tier-gif-25893793

[merry quiver]

i think the ticks with max pouches are 3 damage, and then like 2 ticks a second

[worldly marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-wolf-sigma-male-gif-26562640

[opaque sigil]

the use case for pollip pouch is like dinging mobs once and letting it tick down before dinging them again to make tools last a bit longer it's not really a dps tool

[barren dew]

Do I need to be popular for my takes to be accepted...........

[opaque sigil]

yes

[merry quiver]

yes

[worldly marlin]

don't worry once you become my level of popularity no one will ever ignore you

[broken seal]

depends on if your takes suck, but generally yes

[barren dew]

WHO is this

[barren dew]

Green prince be quiet you are dead

[barren dew]

Are you saying it's BAD I'm not showing my tier list ever again

[worldly marlin]

since this chat is dead, next one to type likes their same gender

[merry quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hornet-shaw-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-13205433055363544945

[regal isle]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-widow-hornet-bonk-arito-gif-13643966964603239778

[worldly marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[barren dew]

Shades they are JUMPING ME

[merry quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-lean-lean-machine-generator-the-hollow-knight-gif-24953738

[barren dew]

I'm never showing my stupid chud tier list ever again

[tight viper]

Actually, I might have to move Pollip Pouch up a tad in my tier list because it makes the Needler from Halo

[tight viper]

For comparison

[barren dew]

[opaque sigil]

see this is the based way to make tier lists

[barren dew]

SEE????

[opaque sigil]

who cares about meta funny points matter more

[tight viper]

I mean I wouldn't move it up that high, just a little bit higher in D tier

[broken seal]

it isn't the worst thing i've ever seen lol, definitely has some... "interesting" takes though

[brave geyser]

ah sorgy in a bit of a time rush right now

[merry quiver]

slide me the tiermaker link rq

ill cook

[tight viper]

https://tiermaker.com/create/hollow-knight-silksong-tools-18675352

[brave geyser]

ok fuck i need 1% in 4 minutes and the closest is deepnest vessel frag

[barren dew]

Can I ask which exactly pisses people off like genuinely I gotta know

[celest cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/dream-bbq-ena-joel-g-coral-glasses-hold-on-gif-3591996029218973813

[brave geyser]

i'd win

[tight viper]

This one has all but the empty bottle and phial

[barren dew]

.

[worldly marlin]

it can't be that bad. look at mine

[barren dew]

You can be my friend again DID YOU END OUR FRIENDSHIP WHAT THE FRICK HOLLOW

[broken seal]

idk lol pollip pouch is debatably the worst or 2nd worst blue tool in the game lol

[barren dew]

Pollip saved me from stupid situations so idk what to say

[earnest drift]

snitch pick and barbed bracelet in C…

[opaque sigil]

what even is the runner up

[merry quiver]

i did the reds, none are in order within tiers except longpin

[tight viper]

memory crystal or something

[barren dew]

🙁

[merry quiver]

idk why some random blues are there

[barren dew]

🙁

[earnest drift]

straight pin in S interesting

[tight viper]

I think tacks are overrated but that's a bit much lmao

[opaque sigil]

memory crystal is pretty bad but it at least does a decent amount of damage, I guess the face tank crests don't have a ton of blue tool budget

[earnest drift]

straight pin is my favourite tool

[merry quiver]

its stupid but its also really funny

oh wait i mean longpin

[brave geyser]

Ggs i couldn't get 100% :(

99% tho and 2 minutes to beat both thk and rad

[merry quiver]

they def work but i dont like them

[brave geyser]

i'd win

Just gotta use fury for rad :3

[earnest drift]

is having to go through thk every time to fight radiance good game design

[merry quiver]

oh this tierlist doesnt have silkskills 🙁 im a shaman main

[tight viper]

one sec, boss

[brave geyser]

This fucking room that i hate

[brave geyser]

Meh you get soul iam not complaining

[jovial kraken]

When I first did tadience it usually took like a minute at max to get them to the fase where hornet stuns them

Honestly shorter than most runbacks

[merry quiver]

overcharmed... steel soul.. MOBILE??

[river mango]

hot take bile water is good

[barren dew]

Is this what you people WANT

[merry quiver]

ooh wow new take just dropped

[opaque sigil]

bilewater being good is like at most a lukewarm take

[brave geyser]

A good way to send ts off would be using fury on radiance lowk

[river mango]

i thought its meant to be a horrible place and it does that job good

[tight viper]

https://tiermaker.com/create/hollow-knight-silksong-all-tools-16820762 no needle phial but oh well

[merry quiver]

exactly, its good at its job

[river mango]

bro i KNOW you didnt put the long nail in S atleast put it in never use

[merry quiver]

oh no the 3 minute tool

[merry quiver]

😭

[river mango]

yea it does its job perfectly

[merry quiver]

longpin is my favorite

[barren dew]

Ohhh you would be surprised about my actual tier list

[river mango]

just like deepnest

[opaque sigil]

longpin isn't close to my favorite but I appreciate the gimmick

[broken seal]

trust me, you would've been just fine without it. The tools without pollip would have been enough

[merry quiver]

wyt of this so far

i personally dont like threadstorm

[barren dew]

Okay sooo I will put it on B then

[river mango]

no hate to you but long pin is so garbage like it pierces for mid damage and you have to think about where its gonna land instead of just pressing the tool button and dealing damage

[jovial kraken]

Favorite red tools are fleabrew and flintstone

[regal isle]

rune rage is garbage

[barren dew]

Idk tier lists are terrifying

[jovial kraken]

(Guess which crest I main lmao)

[regal isle]

must be shaman

[bleak peak]

after herrah was went into the coma as a dreamer, why did the Pale King still keep Hornet? Why didn't he just throw her into the void, too?

[merry quiver]

you have to be a wanderer

[jovial kraken]

Yes yes of course

[river mango]

you wanna know something funny i used silkspear for my entire playthrough i wasnt even doing a challenge on my first playthrough i just prefered silkspear over everything else

[merry quiver]

its so stupid but i love it

[jovial kraken]

Close, beast :p

[tight viper]

Rune Rage is the worst of the Silk Skills, but it isn't terrible

[opaque sigil]

he has no reason to do that

[river mango]

thats so fair

[jovial kraken]

It is genuinely very solid damage wise

[river mango]

rune rage is so bad the only reason to use it is to cosplay pure vessel

[broken seal]

i slapped this together very very quickly and didn't double check any placements so shit might be off idk. No order within tiers except maybe accidentally

[barren dew]

Pretend my tier list never existed ok? Ok

[river mango]

yea i liked it cuz i could use it from far away

[river mango]

fire doesnt deserve to be in d tier it deserves to be in f tier because it actively harms you

[opaque sigil]

dice in S is funny but I can't argue against it because it's by far the best in its category

[earnest drift]

snitch pick in B, I’ll take it

[merry quiver]

silkspear is just reliable, its not too flashy

[jovial kraken]

It wouldn't really make sense to throw hornet into the void since she's not a mix of two higher beings she probably wouldn't have turned out like the vessels

[spark anchor]

shell satchel in d

[tight viper]

Have you done steel soul before?

[worldly lake]

i like memory crystal

[jovial kraken]

Also I pretty sure all of deepnest would hunt his ass out

[broken seal]

There is no F tier and i didn't feel like adding one, if there was one it would be in there

[river mango]

personally if i had a second playthrough i would choose the grandmother silk thing with that the first sinner uses or maybe threadstorm

[brave geyser]

that was close

[broken seal]

yeah mb i forgot which one was which so i just threw em in lol

[tight viper]

Lantern doesn't actively harm you like Glowing Womb did

[broken seal]

but yes i've played steel soul

[tight viper]

threefold is also pretty solid, very underrated tool

[jovial kraken]

And he didn't really keep her ||His wife and vespa took care of her after her slumber||

[brave geyser]

Getting hit by pillars in the big 26

[river mango]

but it does lantern takes silk for each flame just like glowing womb i'd argue glowing womb is better cuz it does more damage and it actually hits your targets unlike lantern

[brave geyser]

yes the heck pillars 😭

[jovial kraken]

Who unironically uses the fire wisp thingy

[opaque sigil]

wispfire lantern does a lot more damage at higher upgrade levels. Not a lot of damage, just a lot more than gwomb

[tight viper]

Lantern only has 1 wisp active at a time, and silk maintenance is not an issue in SK

[river mango]

oh i dont get hit by those alot but sometimes i get hit by them

[brave geyser]

alr time to beat up rad

[woven spade]

So in silksong hornet

[tight viper]

You've got silk hearts to keep silk, and the wisps give you more than enough time to hit an enemy and get silk back

[river mango]

first if your about to heal and it can take away that silk and you have to hit the boss again which could lead to a death and 99% of the time the wisps miss

[tight viper]

If you lose silk while using Wisp, you're doing something wrong

[merry quiver]

rate this tierlist (not ranked within tiers except for S)

[river mango]

your talking about pure vessel right?

[broken seal]

it's damage is pretty bad and the damage lowers if multiple hit one target but ig it could go to C instead of D lol

[tight viper]

Neither of these things are true

[river mango]

maybe the wisp is doing something wrong because it autotargets

[broken seal]

nothing in A lmao

[river mango]

both are true have you even used lantern

[tight viper]

It can set shit on fire and the damage got buffed a while back, it's not amazing but it's decent enough

[graceful oyster]

Peeaaaaakkkk

[quartz gulch]

Wait I still had discord open

[tight viper]

I've used it many times, I'm very familiar with it

[broken seal]

Talking about threefold not lantern

[graceful oyster]

Yes

[tight viper]

It is not an S tier tool, but it's not terrible

[broken seal]

And lantern is terrible lol

[merry quiver]

wait why did i put pin badge in D

[woven spade]

Cogwork flies and fire thing is the auto aim dream

[graceful oyster]

Not sorry

[river mango]

then you would know how much it misses wait actually it might of gotten buffed or smth but when i used it it would ALWAYS miss and it would do shit damage

[tight viper]

ah

[worldly umbra]

a for absolutely nothing

[tight viper]

You must be misremembering

Wisp does miss, but it doesn't miss every single hit

It hits enough to contribute to the fight

[brave geyser]

this u god?

[graceful oyster]

Never have I been defeated in combat

[tight viper]

also burns shit which is always fun

[merry quiver]

revised tierlist

[brave geyser]

based

[merry quiver]

my pinky was dying when i did mt fay for the first time because i kept spamming sprint

[brave geyser]

This is literally so based

[tight viper]

Also, Wisp and Weavelight have synergy

[worldly umbra]

every enemy in silksong based on how good they would be to keep as a pet

[river mango]

not more then like idk its a blue tool right? it doesnt contribute more then something like claw mirrors or the long claw thingy or the quick heal thingy or the 3 heal thingy if you only have 3 blue slots at most with the witch crest you would want to fill those up with something that does more damage or helps more then wispfire

[worldly umbra]

yes ill fix the squirms

[tight viper]

were you using Wisp with Weavelight or not

[worldly umbra]

yes ive posted this 100 times

[river mango]

the fact that i need another blue tool to even make it viable at all is kinda crazy ngl

[tight viper]

You need injector band to make multibinder viable

[regal isle]

summoned saviour would be an AMAZING pet!

[brave geyser]

itemless hornet protector 🥶

[woven spade]

Can someone make a tier list on how well each enemy in silksong would taste please?

[worldly lake]

beating skarrsinger karmelita with witch crest

[river mango]

not at all it heals 4 which is more then wispfire would EVER do and if you just find a safe spot or inbetween a boss stun its pretty good and im saying that as someone who used it most of the game atleast until the arena in the citadel or lace 2 fight

[worldly lake]

i'm getting close

[brave geyser]

Near itemless hornet protector 🥶

[river mango]

and still even without injector band its not nearly as good but its still viable unlike wispfire

[tight viper]

Wisp is viable with or without Weavelight, and with Weavelight it's decent

calling Wispfire dogshit proves you've not used it right

[river mango]

decent multibinder is decent without 2 blue tools

[kind tide]

Erm.

Guys?

[brave geyser]

well you see shell binding got a reskin

[opaque sigil]

Ok but that’s at a pretty considerable opportunity cost especially if you’re using both

[tight viper]

Also, the Wisps are pretty

No one has considered that

[river mango]

true

[opaque sigil]

That’s a totally valid reason to just use it anyways but who cares if it’s good if you just think it’s neat

[tight viper]

I just care about people calling it shit

[flint grove]

The reaper crest is so bad vs ||Groal||

[worldly lake]

AAAAAAA

[void moat]

i should draw out a fake screenshot of a silksong sequel..

[opaque sigil]

Maskbearer 2

[river mango]

speaking of that i used reaper crest my entire playthrough

[flint grove]

I really like it and know I can do it but holy it just phases you into his hitbox so often

[river mango]

yea in my steelsoul playthrough i AM using wanderers

[void moat]

except mine would be cooler cause im making it

[graceful oyster]

So much ourple

[brave geyser]

It's so wrong seeing this much ourple

[regal isle]

its so purple here

[void moat]

let us buy some whiteout

[graceful oyster]

Uggggghhh it took Douze Dixieme 5 years to make a game that's better than Silksong foundationally with way less money

Why isn't TC as good as them

[tight viper]

Groaletariat

[void moat]

eat those who have moderate amounts of money

[rocky jolt]

because they were wasting their time making the unravelled

[graceful oyster]

Also they like, talk to people

I make fanart and all devs heart react it

It is in the me-sort-of sarcastic but hint of realistic feeling sort of way

[rocky jolt]

yeah some people here are really obnoxious about mio

like jeez dude they arent even competitors

[void moat]

ive already been spoiled on what is apparently the final boss of mio cause silksong shorts channels put footage of it in their videos so im probably not gonna play it

[graceful oyster]

That's so stupid

I hate people who spoil

[void moat]

it's like ||those two guys right||

[rocky jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1105009859822362714/1230950752646598827/image0-117.gif

[graceful oyster]

Don't let anything I say put you off of it, I just can't stop thinking about the game and talk about it way too much

[opaque sigil]

I mean surely it's not gonna be enough to ruin it

[void moat]

true but it discourages me nonetheless

[rocky jolt]

why play overwatch when you can play tf2!

[tight viper]

True, sometimes it's not about the journey, it's about the destination

[opaque sigil]

play prince of persia the lost crown instead

[brave geyser]

i wonder who that would be

[tight viper]

wait shit I said that backwards

[void moat]

ive never heard of that game in my life

[tight viper]

It's about the destination not the journey

[rocky jolt]

i would love to try mio not right now tho

[opaque sigil]

dammit I've been slacking

[graceful oyster]

They're not but it's just so tragic that a game as good as Mio gets so so so so much less traction than a game that really isn't all that much more

[brave geyser]

totally fair

[kind tide]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdXRsbTc3OTg0NWFodnB0YWdtY29tOXZ4eDBjajQ5MHI4enJ4MGJuMiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/yj6p551yBF8ic7PcaB/giphy.gif

[graceful oyster]

Is that me

[kind tide]

:/

[graceful oyster]

That's definitely me

[rocky jolt]

silksong had years of hype

[sinful glen]

yo this is lowkirkenuinely the objectively correct tier list

[sinful glen]

wtf why is this a pdf

[graceful oyster]

The demo for this game was around and public for ages too

[rocky jolt]

and also hk just kinda built its popularity naturally

[kind tide]

[tight viper]

try again, boss

[graceful oyster]

Oh, well, no it doesn't

[brave geyser]

take this for future purposes

[rocky jolt]

i never really seen much advertising of it

[opaque sigil]

blue prince didn't get nearly as much recognition as it deserved

[graceful oyster]

Because they can't afford it 😭

[void moat]

to be fair they do go by the apostle of hate

[rocky jolt]

damn

[kind tide]

The normal people saying "kill"

[void moat]

no excuse for evil behavior but still

[zinc wharf]

I just beat First Sinner hitless, without jumping, silk skills, or red tools.

[brave geyser]

used to?

[kind tide]

Not feeling very comfy rn ngL

[tight viper]

You recorded this, yeah?

[zinc wharf]

No… I’m a Switch player with no capture card, unfortunately

[tight viper]

shit that sounds like it would be cool to watch

[sinful glen]

there we go

[tight viper]

I wish I hadn't asked you to try again smh

[zinc wharf]

I can tell you, though - I dodged the horizontal needle attacks with Scuttlebrace, and the rush attack with two parries in a row (first one facing FS, second one upwards)

[sinful glen]

being proven wrong often hurts

[icy junco]

Cat

[ancient mortar]

Hello people

[brave geyser]

oh so just like R/uty's then? that's cool

[kind tide]

Erm, GUYS?

[void moat]

hello bodyweightbuilder

[tight viper]

wait a damn second why's curvesickle lower than curveclaw lmao

[rocky jolt]

its funny how every silk spell ranking boils down to this

[brave geyser]

Greetings green mage from everhood

[ancient mortar]

ye its one of my faves

[sinful glen]

curveclaw is more fun

[void moat]

oh the server is still lgbtq+ friendly

[graceful oyster]

Well, my excuse is

• I am annoying because I talk in quippy sarcasm when I'm not actively in a conversation
• I really really think MIO is amazing and the way I feel best to support it is to talk about it, and one of the best ways I can do that is here in comparison to Skong

[zinc wharf]

I like how you have Spider Strings in the bottom tier, and right now I’m testing if any Strings cheese could be possible.

[tight viper]

oh you're accounting for the accessibility, being able to use it throughout the entire game instead of just the tail end

[graceful oyster]

Which, to be fair, several people have gotten it and then later pinged me or Illu with positive feedback

[tight viper]

that's valid tbh

[flint grove]

Groals runback man

[sinful glen]

yeah also its much harder to get multiple hits in with curvesickle i found

[mental snow]

I was just going through some of my old replays and found this lmao

[opaque sigil]

I don't think literally anyone has deluded themselves into thinking spider strings is anything other than useless

[graceful oyster]

I know, but there is a significant fraction there

[void moat]

keep inventory death screen off minecraft

[mental snow]

That was from like MONTHS ago lmao

[mental snow]

Truuuuue
"It was just a bad dream"

Not to make fun of pronouns but I read that as "they see it"

[ancient mortar]

i mean joke pins would probably get in the way of like the rules and info stuff they put there

[tight viper]

I used Spider Strings a lot in my first playthrough because I wanted to see as much needolin dialogue as possible

[mental snow]

What if I ship Lace with a chair
What then

[zinc wharf]

Okay yeah no Spider Strings sucks. Can’t even stun-lock Last Judge, who has 20 million years of lag between each move.

[mental snow]

Well it's a boss

It doesn't have exploitable staggers lol

[tight viper]

What if we hit Lace with a steel chair

[chrome canopy]

I BEAT PHANTOM AND LAST JUDGE WHILE CURSED

[zinc wharf]

Yeah but it would’ve been funny if a boss could be cheesed like that

[mental snow]

What if Hornet comes in with the steel chair

[mental snow]

Ngl that's so true

Lace 2 moment

[opaque sigil]

questionable if you could bludgeon silk to death I think you'd have to do some slashing unless you honed a chair leg into a blade, that would really rip through her nicely

[mental snow]

What

[zinc wharf]

I heard somewhere that Strings increases the time enemies are stunned. That was probably only in regards to if you keep on playing Needolin rather than adding some attacks in between, but I wanted to test it anyways.

[flint grove]

Groal is by far the worst boss in the game bruh, how can it get worse

[brave geyser]

I only get it for phantom

[void moat]

have you fought savage beastfly yet

[tight viper]

Can't wait for the crest of the Wrestler, the charged attack is a foldable steel chair that plays a random bit of a random wrestler's intro music

[opaque sigil]

is savage beastfly worse

[flint grove]

Not even close

[mental snow]

No I was going along with the joke lol

[void moat]

yeah id argue

[brave geyser]

Based

[opaque sigil]

father of the flame is worse than either anyways

[void moat]

i like father of the flame

[mental snow]

Shiiit

[void moat]

cool boss with a semi-cool gimmick, very mediocre execution but we ride

[flint grove]

Combined with the 5 min fking runback and arena god

[opaque sigil]

damn making a mental note never to take anything you say seriously again

[errant sage]

what are some games similar to the hollow knight series on steam

[flint grove]

Boutta crash tf out lol

[mental snow]

Who wins, 15 Cragglers or one Spit Squit

[tight viper]

Ori series

[void moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hideo-kojima-mgs-rocket-metal-gear-idkguyidk-gif-6710607785251356347

[mental snow]

Kinda boring waiting for me Celeste video to process

Wanna upload ts already

[brave geyser]

:(

[void moat]

i never had a huge problem with it why is it bad

[opaque sigil]

it's just so boring

[void moat]

slash gen que

[void moat]

fair i like it for wisp thicket lore

[mental snow]

Eh, it's built around "pogo these things but don't get hit by the fire"

Kinda like Flukemarm if Flukemarm was bad AND annoying (Flukemark is just bad)

[brave geyser]

ok i will say FOTF is boring on all crests outside of hunter

[mental snow]

Beast Crest FotF gaming

[tight viper]

I enjoy using the Bonkya Crest against FotF

[brave geyser]

Beast is fine but it honestly didn't feel allat good

witch well you just got rid of the kickass pogo

[void moat]

it isnt excellent but i dont think it's terrible

[opaque sigil]

it's the closest thing to offensively bad

[brave geyser]

Zango palestag voltvyrm

[tight viper]

Lugoli, Zango, Summoned Savior

[void moat]

zango, zango, zango, because his shittiness takes up three spots

[opaque sigil]

summoned savior is worse true

[brave geyser]

Infact make a 4th spot just for summoned saviour

Sorry girl i just hate voltvyrm 💔

[void moat]

fine i give up, fotf is bad after all

[tight viper]

If I shared my FotF opinion I would be shot and killed instantly

[opaque sigil]

it's not the worst I'll give it that

summoned savior definitely takes that

[brave geyser]

Peenar from whiteward won't be there right

[balmy sundial]

holy am i in the right fandom?

[zinc wharf]

I also think Unravelled is worse. What a lame boss.

[brave geyser]

i think

[void moat]

voltvyrm is like, extremely mediocre

[tight viper]

Blasphemy

[void moat]

ultimate mediocrity, the attacks are cool though

[ancient mortar]

I liked unrav

[brave geyser]

ok unravelled is wasted potential but he has aura

[ancient mortar]

simple but fun to nohit

[opaque sigil]

unravelled is ok

[void moat]

unravelled would be cool if you didnt fight him in a shoebox

[tight viper]

Unraveled is canonically unable to be killed and that's really cool

[brave geyser]

i fucking hated unravelled for hitless wingless lmao

[void moat]

entirely blown out of the water by every boss that you can fight in the same area

[balmy sundial]

i think those hollow knight mobile ports are pirated

[ancient mortar]

I think the fight being claustrophobic really works for it.

[zinc wharf]

Its vibes are great, but the fight itself is very lame. It spends like half of the fight underground, like let me kill you please.

[tight viper]

Unraveled is also not the big monster thing but it's the entire arena, that's the boss

[void moat]

i feel like it could pull off a claustrophobic feeling well without it literally taking up half of the arena

[tight viper]

Aw wait it's 2 L's

I'm a fake fan fuck

[brave geyser]

It was cool and all figuring out that i can put in more damage even with pogos
But it doesn't help i play on a nuclear reactor that shuts down every 20 minutes (i know it's a me problem)

[void moat]

i will say unravelled's name emanates some aura

[brave geyser]

they are

[void moat]

shit boss though

[tight viper]

Unravelled should have had another attack though, something involving the silk floor

To better represent that you're fighting the entire mass of haunted silk dregs

[tight viper]

Markoth appreciation, this is good

[void moat]

it fits in really well, all we really could get is the origin of how it came to be

[brave geyser]

Crawfather too don't forget that criminal

[void moat]

a hidden doomsday suicide cult in the overarching themes of religion in silksong? quite my tempo. continue.

[cunning kayak]

whats wrong with marmu

[brave geyser]

33 seconds of hitting bro like 5 times and sweating bullets

[regal isle]

hornet 2 deserves some more love

[cunning kayak]

marmu is fun

what

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/will-gif-2553459115951539861

[desert cradle]

Holy fkn shit the warden is terrifying

[cunning kayak]

marmu is just fun fight has no downsides

[brave geyser]

Anymarmu

[tight viper]

not even those zany physics?

[dull ermine]

xero is worst than traitor lord

[brave geyser]

The radiant version

[cunning kayak]

i dont mind them

[cunning kayak]

tbh ive never tried to radiant marmu only the harder bosses

like nkg pv

[desert cradle]

I couldnt move for a fkn minute and then he fkn sniffed my ahh then I got hit with that 20 mile supersonic shit

[tight viper]

oh Broodmother

[brave geyser]

You can get her on a random attempt but unless you have a proper build/strat you won't know wtf is happening

[tight viper]

that explains things

[desert cradle]

IM TALKING ABOUT THE MINECRAFT WARDEN BRU

[cunning kayak]

does she speed up or something or do her mechanics change? because i never got hit by her in any pantheon

[desert cradle]

Broodmother so ez

[brave geyser]

the arena is smaller

Meaning she can bounce off alot more

[cunning kayak]

ahhh fair enough yes

[cunning kayak]

pressure increases

[desert cradle]

Radiant marmu is very hard

[cunning kayak]

like physiks

[desert cradle]

Bcuz I'm bad

[brave geyser]

there's a strat for her (SOMEHOW) but god DAMN does she suck for a hot minute

[split lodge]

How is pinstress so easily cheesed by shaman crest, volt filament, and pale nails?

[desert cradle]

Ayo?

[brave geyser]

Iam Actually curious who

[cunning kayak]

what do you g uys think is the hardest silksong boss

[cunning kayak]

besides lost lace

[tight viper]

her health is really low for her point in the game

Gurr and Nyleth too, actually

[cunning kayak]

i agree

died to her more than any other boss

[tight viper]

Watcher at the Edge is solid rock, it's probably them

[cunning kayak]

about 7-8 times

[cunning kayak]

really

[brave geyser]

Nyleth Seth and savage beastfly 1 pre greymoor

[cunning kayak]

😟

[split lodge]

Multibinder and Druid’s eyes on wanderer’s can easily defeat her, just follow her, hit, heal, repeat

[cunning kayak]

but what about karmelita

[tight viper]

oh right yeah

[cunning kayak]

did her in 3

😜

[split lodge]

I dare say there’s no hardest boss because of just how many ways you can cheese them

[cunning kayak]

that goes for any game though

[brave geyser]

ok what boss did you find hardest

[cunning kayak]

dark souls elden ring can be easily cheesed too but average build wise

ofc theres some exceptions but in general

[split lodge]

Deadass? Trobbio 1 and 2 because I’m gonna have a seizure from all the lights

[brave geyser]

Based

So based

[cunning kayak]

trobbio 2 was such a cool surprise

[split lodge]

Silksong made me wonder if I’m playing 2D elden ring

[split lodge]

And he’s not dead lmao there’s him popping out of the ground, bro’s just in his emo phase

[cunning kayak]

it was pretty hard but mostly the gauntlets

[brave geyser]

the gauntlets are their own bosses atp

And honestly i like how silksong was focused on them

[split lodge]

Meeting the skaarguard in marrow: yep this is the tree sentinel

[brave geyser]

The only fun gauntlet in hk was queen's gardens. Barely.

[cunning kayak]

much harder than tree sentinel without dash

[regal isle]

theres like 3 gauntlets in the entirety of hk

u got the aspids near the hot spring in forgotten and queens gardens

idk the third one lowk

[brave geyser]

oh wait forgot to include colo
Ehh who cares

[brave geyser]

It's rare to see an enemy gauntlet of more than 3 waves in hk tbh

[cunning kayak]

bosses locked behind repeated gauntlets were annoying in silksong tbh like groal and karmelita

[split lodge]

Theres also the moss knight but it’s more of a mini boss than a gauntlet

[brave geyser]

Groal the bitchass

[cunning kayak]

he had the worst gauntlet imo

[brave geyser]

karm's was fine since yknow
They are skarrs. They are awesome

[split lodge]

OD on plasmium with arch crest and bring druid’s eyes and cog flies

[mellow lava]

So is the voidheart a proximity thing with a range or does the knight only control the abyss of hallownest

[cunning kayak]

i kept one build throughout and stuck to it

for the most part

[lavish apex]

karmelita's gauntlet is short enough that i don't really mind it personally

[brave geyser]

Plus last claw's are cool

[lavish apex]

and she has no actual runback

[flat flicker]

Ay what's that item called which helps to increase the capacity of silk?

[split lodge]

I didn’t fight zango at all LMAO I used used him for the Act 3 plasmium quest

[brave geyser]

I can see the vision tho it's like 4 waves

[cunning kayak]

yeah it does add difficulty but its a big time sink at the same time just becomes tedious

[split lodge]

He gives like 4 reserves

[flat flicker]

Thanks

[graceful oyster]

MIO glaze fact 349:

• No pre-boss gauntlets

Not true

One (1) boss that 2 shots

And it's completely optional

No, big difference between having a room for mistake or not

Genuinely

[cunning kayak]

why the first dancer fight over second?

its harder though

hard = fun

[graceful oyster]

Clover is so ass

[split lodge]

If only there was the option to summon second sentinel or shakra to assist in boss fights after finishing their respective quests

[cunning kayak]

why

lost verdania was the coolest looking area also

[graceful oyster]

It does everything Cogwork did already but worse

No cinema

Bad region

Bad lore

[cunning kayak]

good visuals

[graceful oyster]

Music is good

[split lodge]

Me looking at the one last map I didn’t find for the cartographer achievement: oh yeah verdania exists

[cunning kayak]

it looks cool wish it was a bigger part of the game

[graceful oyster]

Visuals are pretty I guess

[empty pond]

yall how do i like fight skull tyrant in bone bottom cause i heard he comes to bone bottom in act 3 and welll i already beat lost lace

[cunning kayak]

fr mad haters

[tight viper]

doesn't appear in act 3

[split lodge]

Garmond 😭 I payed respects after slaying him by playing the needolin

[tight viper]

I love the Pendragors

[graceful oyster]

Ask me my opinion on Underworks or Blasted Steps

[empty pond]

so i'm too late

[brave geyser]

he doesn't

[cunning kayak]

both suck whats your opinion

[graceful oyster]

Actually don't do that I don't want to type Silksong rn

[lavish apex]

i haven't done verdania on any of my replays tbh

[graceful oyster]

Uuugggh

[tight viper]

unfortunately

[brave geyser]

I just heard the most fire lyrics

[empty pond]

mmph

[graceful oyster]

Top 5 regions in the game, both do their job excellently and are a highlight of my runs

[split lodge]

If the DLC doesn’t include someone adopting zaza we riot

[graceful oyster]

Blasted Steps is awesome

[lavish apex]

underworks and bsteps are great

[cunning kayak]

tripping