sk-discussion

[graceful oyster]

Just play MIO where all the exploration and bossing is fun

[exotic cedar]

I will

[latent shuttle]

Is ss boring ?

[exotic cedar]

I'm at the final boss of nine sols rn

[untold dune]

oh yeah i started mio yesterday its so peak

[kindred willow]

I have heard of MIO but not played it, that sounds interesting

[heady iron]

The permanent health loss mechanic in question

[untold dune]

no?

[exotic cedar]

I went through the whole game without upgrading my pipe

[rocky jolt]

only if you fight first sinner

[latent shuttle]

I think it is i got bored im in act 2 rn

[graceful oyster]

People want to think that's a bad mechanic but it's probably one of my favorite aspects of the game

[chrome canopy]

My very ethically obtained treasures

[safe ore]

Did sea of sorrow come out yet

[graceful oyster]

Where'd you get to?

[kindred willow]

no

[safe ore]

Will sea of sorrow drop on the super nintendo

[exotic cedar]

I hope sea of sorrow doesn't bring new achivements i don't really want to play silksong again

[grim widget]

Is that the furry

[exotic cedar]

But i love achivements

[grim widget]

New percentages if it’s not paid

[untold dune]

past the first boss, i forget the name of the guy but im currently getting thru the other boss in the ice area

[grim widget]

[exotic cedar]

I'm game achivements number one fan

[safe ore]

Did we get a release date for sea of sorrow

[exotic cedar]

If i like the game im %100 ing that shit

[graceful oyster]

Very nice

[limpid condor]

are act 2 bosses harder than act 3 bosses? no spoilers just yes or no

[safe ore]

In act 3 everything deals 2 damage

[untold dune]

act 3 bosses are harder lol

[graceful oyster]

Sherma dies

[grim widget]

Yeah sometimes

[hallow lintel]

A few act 3 bosses are easier but most of them are much harder

[chrome canopy]

No

[grim widget]

You have to beat all of act 3 no hit for 5 hour hornet shakra shrek scene

[limpid condor]

all enemies?

[grim widget]

Timothy chalamet still does one using his throwing spikes

[limpid condor]

oh god ill do that then man i dont want to miss out

[untold dune]

i wouldbt ask for elaboration on this

[limpid condor]

does that count towards game completion %

[grim widget]

Yeah you need it for 100 percent

[sharp tundra]

Same twin

[limpid condor]

damn man

[limpid condor]

the sound of an achievement is sensational

[kindred willow]

Can I still get the 100% despite missing Garmond & Zaza

[exotic cedar]

Yes

[sharp tundra]

Anyways good night my sorrowed seas

[grim widget]

When garmond on that zaza

[sharp tundra]

ok good night for real this time

[exotic cedar]

This is real

[grim widget]

Most powerful being in hallownest and pharloom

[barren dew]

Hi

[limpid condor]

my garmond and zaza is at songclave rn and they arent moving anywhere how do i continue the quest
act 2

[wraith path]

i think this is fake, but idk

[sharp tundra]

this is godhome ending in silksong
They leaked it

ok time to sleep
100% i will

[wraith path]

u weren't dead?

[sharp tundra]

See yall in the dream world~~~~~

[hasty crater]

how o i unlock vc

[untold dune]

150 msgs

[hasty crater]

im have to send 150

[untold dune]

yeah sorry

[hasty crater]

wth

[untold dune]

its anti spam measure (its a bit too high imo)

[wraith path]

let's count together

and get to 150

[hasty crater]

h

hhhhhhhhhhhhh

[glacial compass]

I just beat lace 2 hitless on my first attempt wtffff im meant to be bad at this game

I died like 30 times to lace 1

[kindred willow]

Unreal

That is great!

[graceful oyster]

Let's make it so you have to age verify with an ID to talk here

Filter out the children

[burnt parrot]

does anybody here have a link to the Gim Troupe? (Discord Server)

[verbal trench]

i think anyone with any knowledge of the current state of the world and privacy would refuse that method of verification

[burnt parrot]

i am using an alternate account and need to return to my family

[untold dune]

no i already hate the age verification shit theyre pulling here in the uk

[void moat]

only adults can talk about our game made for children, this is a perfect idea

[glacial compass]

Fr

[graceful oyster]

Age verification with a history quiz

[untold dune]

most adults wont pass

[burnt parrot]

lol

[verbal trench]

actually to verify you have to send a front facing selfie of yourself in a dedicated channel that everyone can see at all times

[burnt parrot]

does anybody know anybody from the gim troupe? their flair is the word GIM

[subtle lynx]

After beating act 2, idk why people complained about the boss runbacks tbh

None of them were that bad (if you have the bench for groal)

Soul master runback is still the worst for me

[glad ingot]

soul master? that was easy

[subtle lynx]

No that was insane

[glad ingot]

did you have the breakable wall?

[kindred willow]

Guys I can't believe this is happening

[glad ingot]

oh yeah wait

the flying mfs

[kindred willow]

This is the first time I've been genuinely obsessed with a Hollow Knight game

[subtle lynx]

I don't remember

But I remember it being the worst thing HK related

[graceful oyster]

2nd time's the charm

[kindred willow]

Like I spent a fair amount of time on the first one and found it fun, but now I full on can't stop thinking about Silksong

[subtle lynx]

Yeah this game has blown my expectations and I still haven't played act 3

I knew it was going to be great, but this is just so stupidly awesome

[glad ingot]

lies, soul master is free
just first try, you dont need a runback
aside from first run

[kindred willow]

Fair enough! Yeah Act 3 is my personal favorite. Act 2 was pretty good too but I also felt it had the lowest lows of either game

[subtle lynx]

Well I didn't beat it first try

[glad ingot]

no joke ive first tried both my other runs

[subtle lynx]

In fact, the fake death got me

[glad ingot]

all? idr

[kindred willow]

I just didn't like encountering High Halls and Bilewater back to back and failing both bc it was too early on. That's my only complaint

[glad ingot]

yeah, first save file

im specifically talking about save files after that

challenge runs, steel soul, speedruns, just replaying the game

yk

[kindred willow]

I CANNOT STOP THINKING ABOUT SILKSONG!!!

[subtle lynx]

I died a lot in Bilewater trying to find a bench, it was painful but not that bad since it didn't feel unfair

[light swan]

i can’t stop thinking about mio memories in orbit

[glad ingot]

whar

[subtle lynx]

The most rage inducing things were the unraveled, brood mother, lace 2 and that lava rising arena in far fields

[glad ingot]

true

[kindred willow]

I just got really stuck. Part of it was personal issues (like the time I wrote a whole hitpiece and sent it to people on Discord) but I just encountered a bunch of tought stuff at once

[glad ingot]

except lace 2

well actually no

[subtle lynx]

I got stuck for 1 hour because I didn't know how to beat her

[kindred willow]

For me it was Savage Beastfly 2, Groal, Lost Verdania, and maybe Nameless Town. The rest of the game was good; those were the parts I hated

[glad ingot]

i lied, lace 2 i struggled

[subtle lynx]

Then I found a good strat and beat her 3rd attempt after that

[glad ingot]

i forgot that i got cursed right before that

[subtle lynx]

I didn't get to those 2 last parts yet!

[calm wave]

Do you guys think the hollow knight will appear in silksong (since he should still be alive)

[kindred willow]

Savage Beastfly 2 would have been good if not for the Phase 3 where he spawns two fire spittin dudes at once

[glad ingot]

44 att lace 2, 130 att gms

that was first save file

iirc

[subtle lynx]

You tried to beat them cursed on your first save file?

[glad ingot]

it is alive, true

[calm wave]

Just wait til bro sees "Drowned beastfly"

[subtle lynx]

It's not that bad, you can try to tool spam at that point

[glad ingot]

you never know

[glad ingot]

yeah

[subtle lynx]

How did you know that was even possible

Your first time

[glad ingot]

i wasnt gonna wait for another save file, and i accidentally got cursed too early

[glad ingot]

playing with other people

[subtle lynx]

Oh

[kindred willow]

This is true. I had not yet gotten into the routine of using Red Tools to the fullest yet

[subtle lynx]

You didn't need to be cursed to beat lace lol

[glad ingot]

i know

[kindred willow]

Once I learned to properly use Red Tools, the whole "Silksong is too hard" thing magically vanished for me

[subtle lynx]

I still don't use them for bossfights for the most part

[glad ingot]

i didnt realize delivering the baby cursed you

[subtle lynx]

I consider it kind of cheating

[glad ingot]

and then i was cooked

or at least i thought i was

[kindred willow]

Nearly completely skipping a phase via Red Tools is something I'm willing to do sometimes

[glad ingot]

it was less content to get through cursed than i thought

[subtle lynx]

Yeah me too, but with gauntlets and annoying enemies

[glad ingot]

i actually got comfortable with being cursed

i think i got stockholm syndromed

[subtle lynx]

Boss fights only if they are a bad one like the beast fly or brood mother

[untold nacelle]

The only red tool i used for boss fights where mostly the cogfly's and flintslate

[glad ingot]

huh

[chrome canopy]

did silksong get removed from gale or something

[plain tundra]

I don’t use red tools a lot during boss fights, but if I do then they had it coming

[glad ingot]

tbh i didnt really use red tools ever until the final boss

[subtle lynx]

Yeah

[glad ingot]

and i havent since, since challenge runs have dictated me not picking them up

[dull rover]

I’m stuck on final judge right now

[glad ingot]

ooh last judge is a tough one

[subtle lynx]

Use beast crest

[glad ingot]

?????

[dull rover]

How do I get beast

[subtle lynx]

It will be a breeze

[glad ingot]

really??

[subtle lynx]

Savage beastfly

[dull rover]

Where

[kindred willow]

To be fair, we'll probably have to conserve our Red Tools more once we get the pantheons where we have to fight five bosses in a row before they replenish. Unless TC makes them replenish after several

[untold dune]

u dont need beast crest that bad man

[glad ingot]

hunters march

[subtle lynx]

Yeah I beat it on my 5th attempt? (If you don't count dying to the final explosion)

[untold dune]

magma bell is more useful

[plain tundra]

I relied on tools for Lugioli, Broodmother, Nyleth, and Groal

[glad ingot]

i do count that

[subtle lynx]

Well I don't

[dull rover]

Ok

[glad ingot]

interesting

maybe that's why i struggled to those

[subtle lynx]

Didn't know it worked on last judge

[glad ingot]

it does, it's huge

[subtle lynx]

Does it reduce DMG?

[untold dune]

yeah makes the fight like 50% easier

[glad ingot]

more than

[untold dune]

all fire attacks 1 dmg

[subtle lynx]

Damn that's huge

[untold dune]

w the recharge ofc

[subtle lynx]

Beast crest with bell would just let you face tank

[plain tundra]

I forget
Wait no of course I didn’t do that I used beast crest

[subtle lynx]

God I want to refight last judge so badly

That was fun

[untold dune]

last judge is so peak

[subtle lynx]

It is very peak

[glad ingot]

go make a new save file then
if not now, after act 3

[plain tundra]

I’ll be so happy when Pantheon of Pharloom comes out

[dull rover]

Lost again

[subtle lynx]

Same

[toxic vigil]

The parry is my mew favorite silk skill

[untold dune]

do u have magma bell?

[toxic vigil]

Last judge is way too hard for how early it is imo

[plain tundra]

Who doesn’t love a good parry mechanic

[glad ingot]

unoriginal

[subtle lynx]

I never used anything besides the silk thread

[untold dune]

it should be hard af imo

[toxic vigil]

Thread storm?

[subtle lynx]

Yesh

[glad ingot]

false
it is arguably the hardest challenge proportional to its stage in the game though

[toxic vigil]

Yeah but that shit was harder than gms for me ( using magma bell )

[glad ingot]

also you can just
walk around

i did that

[subtle lynx]

I didn't find it hard

[untold dune]

honestly. bell beast is worse in that regard

[subtle lynx]

The attacks are so easy to read imo

[plain tundra]

Last Judge was tough, but I don’t get all the horror stories about fighting it

[glad ingot]

bell beast???

[dull rover]

No

[glad ingot]

are you insane

[untold dune]

u can get a lot of prep for last judge, u cant get shit for bb

[subtle lynx]

It was the easiest boss fight to read out of the fast ones

[plain tundra]

What are you having trouble with?

[toxic vigil]

Silksong has a HORRIBLE difficulty curve

[subtle lynx]

Yeah bell beast was a struggle for me

[glad ingot]

bell beast is so slow though

[torn token]

Horrible in what way?

[graceful kayak]

Especially the boss in bilewater who shall not be named is a thing

[glad ingot]

oh yeah
first run

[subtle lynx]

The balls are so random though

[dull rover]

Ok

[glad ingot]

hit them

[untold dune]

u can get it from the vendor in deep docks, it reduces the fire attacks to 1 dmg

[subtle lynx]

Well I didn't know that

[graceful kayak]

Bell beast is easy its the pressure of getting 2 masks of damage done. Though ill admit he kicked my ass in my first playthrough

[subtle lynx]

I mean yeah rn it is easy

[glad ingot]

there's so many ways to make it easier
im definitely biased from having multiple runs

[subtle lynx]

But at the time it wasn't for me

[toxic vigil]

It becomes easier later on.
I did the 5 hour run achievement ( went under 3 ) and it took me more time to do judge than lace or gms

And i had magma bell for last judge

[glad ingot]

you couldve done mist

[untold dune]

i can oneshot both bb and lj now, but like, they are both very proportionally hard at first

[glad ingot]

mist is probably freer

[civic snow]

Hi fellow silksongers

[glad ingot]

hello

[subtle lynx]

Damn ain't no way judge is harder than lace 2

[glad ingot]

it is

[untold dune]

nah they aint

[toxic vigil]

And for lace / gms i had claw mirrors and cogflies

[civic snow]

How are y'all?

[subtle lynx]

GMS beat on first try so yeah

[plain tundra]

To be fair, GMS is top 5 easiest bosses and it stands out to a ridiculous degree

[glad ingot]

lace 2 isnt that bad

[torn token]

Ah I see, starts off to hard but doesnt stick to the difficulty curve, I agree with this considering groal took me more tries than LL

[untold nacelle]

Question Last Judge or Phantom what is the better entrance for act 2

[toxic vigil]

Lace 2 too
Or trobbio
High halls arena

[subtle lynx]

It's horrible if you don't know what you're doing

[torn token]

Last judge all the way

[glad ingot]

depends

[civic snow]

Phantom

[untold dune]

last judge is more cinematic for a first playthrough

[balmy wraith]

phantom cuz cross stitch

[toxic vigil]

I have not yet done phantom route yet

[civic snow]

You get a free silk skill

[glad ingot]

sure

[dull rover]

He exploded on me

[graceful kayak]

Steel soul I imagine phantom is the better route

[balmy wraith]

also u start at bell beast too and closer to songclave

[torn token]

Most overrated silk skill imo

[glad ingot]

hence my 44 att first save file

[subtle lynx]

Which was an entire hour for me

[civic snow]

It can still save your life

[glad ingot]

but still

[loud ginkgo]

Hey wsp yall

[torn token]

Especially for going through the hell that is the mist

[balmy wraith]

ik but i like it and im not a sweat

[plain tundra]

No?
Look man I usually die to bosses more than I can be bothered to count, but GMS took me 2 attempts total

[glad ingot]

lj is harder

[torn token]

Sharpdart also saves your life

[toxic vigil]

No i mean.
Last judge was harder than all of those

[torn token]

But in the end last judge and phantom are opposites

[glad ingot]

hha? you're insane

[graceful kayak]

Karmelita is way harder than last judge

[glad ingot]

oh

[plain tundra]

Ah.
Never ran into that, maybe beast crest is just good for last judge

[balmy wraith]

where did caramelita come from

[glad ingot]

hmm, understandable

[torn token]

Last judge is hard at the boss but easy on the journey, phantom is easy at the boss but hard on the journey

[untold dune]

asbrad is WAY harder than last judge 🙄

[toxic vigil]

Sharpdart is like.
Fine.

[balmy wraith]

its good for crowded enemy gauntlets

[gleaming blaze]

Does everyone speak English?

[untold dune]

sharpdart is my fav silk skill rn

[balmy wraith]

i speak american

[glad ingot]

sharpdart was my only silk skill for like the whole game

[plain tundra]

いいえ

[toxic vigil]

Thread storm

[untold dune]

its an english server yea

[glad ingot]

i still didnt use it

[plain tundra]

Sharpdart is a defensive option, right?

[gleaming blaze]

I'm Spanish and I don't understand much English

[subtle lynx]

Phantom was much harder for me and I beat her much later than judge

[glad ingot]

but at least i thought about it

[toxic vigil]

Wdym more damage than sharpdarr

[gleaming blaze]

I don't understand what they're saying.

[graceful kayak]

The worst part of the last judge run back is those stupid red bugs that shoot missiles that always hit you

[balmy wraith]

what if the enemy jumps on you

[gleaming blaze]

[untold dune]

im sorry :(

[glad ingot]

you can skip the driznit btw

[balmy wraith]

mine is pale nail cuz free dmg without having to think

[subtle lynx]

There's only 1 in the way and you can ignore it if you sprint and jump

[glad ingot]

yep

[untold dune]

cogfly fills that roll for me, if im gonna spend 4 silk slots i want it to be cool

[civic snow]

I was doing my 3rd attempt under 5 hours achievement and i decided to go to the phantom route this time, so 1. I got faster time in act 2, and 2. cross stitch saved my life in the high halls gauntlet on the last wave on my 3rd try of the gauntlet, i only had 1 mask and the Parry carried me a lot so i prefer phantom route.

[plain tundra]

Oh my bad
One of the server rules is english only

[toxic vigil]

Don't use it when you know you aren't safe

[balmy wraith]

i didnt have a problem with last judge runback

[balmy wraith]

hornet is never safe

[toxic vigil]

Skill issue

[balmy wraith]

hornet issue

[gleaming blaze]

Is there anyone who knows English who can translate all of this into Spanish for me? XD

[kindred willow]

Guys what is the best Silk Skill

[civic snow]

Issue issue

[glad ingot]

lj runback sprintless is hell

[toxic vigil]

Enemy gauntlets can easilly allow thread storm

[glad ingot]

or wait

was i even sprintless

[civic snow]

Depends on your preference

[untold dune]

why would anyone do this to themselves

[gleaming blaze]

[glad ingot]

no, it was just poor%

[balmy wraith]

can u even get there without sprint

[plain tundra]

In real time?

[glad ingot]

low% te

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/chrome-chromebook-durability-test-rage-gif-10927423133844201423

[glad ingot]

yes

[untold dune]

oh yeah good point

[toxic vigil]

Parry stitch for bosses in general, thread storm for enemy gauntles and easy bosses you can spam it on

[graceful kayak]

I beat the game blindly rarely using projectile tools on my first playthrough

[gleaming blaze]

Yes

[glad ingot]

i will eventually do my low% te run

[balmy wraith]

rune rage cuz gamble

[civic snow]

Nah u definitely tested out your first item when u got it so it isn't "never"

[glad ingot]

but school first, then celeste maybe? then skong

[untold dune]

i couldnt even do a normal low% run

[plain tundra]

Not sure

[gleaming blaze]

Isn't there a way to translate everything they say?

[untold dune]

FUCK low% phantom

[gleaming blaze]

[glad ingot]

i just bash my head against the wall until i win

[plain tundra]

Based

[civic snow]

Ok let's talk about something else:

GMS smash or pass

[velvet cape]

All roads lead to witch crest slop

[graceful kayak]

I did but with enemy gauntlets and bosses I didnt use projectile tools only for quest lines hence I said rarely

[glad ingot]

no

pass

[velvet cape]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[untold dune]

you might be able to find a spanish hollow knight server somewhere, thats all i can really recommend sorry

[silver nacelle]

Imo, cross stitch and pale nails

[glad ingot]

no fuck you for being an asshole about it

[civic snow]

Uhuh, "rarely"

[graceful kayak]

NOW THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE!

[toxic vigil]

Personal silk skill tierlist:

1. Cross stitch
2. Thread storm
3. Sharpdart
4. Pale nails
5. Silkspear
6. Rune Rage

[civic snow]

U said "never" earlier

[glad ingot]

silkspear so low?

[gleaming blaze]

Can you recommend one if you know of one?

[velvet cape]

No it isnt

[plain tundra]

Is there any boss where rune rage could hit them multiple times?

[velvet cape]

Its like naoya

[graceful kayak]

Typo i got excited
Im getting a new grammar license soon should be here tomomorow

[toxic vigil]

Each next hit deals less dmg

[untold dune]

i dont personally know one

[velvet cape]

https://tenor.com/view/naoya-zenin-choso-fight-aura-farm-not-in-the-manga-gif-15215466617984430840

[balmy wraith]

hornet can use projection sorcery now?

[untold dune]

but i have to imagine one exists

[velvet cape]

Pillow hands

[balmy wraith]

new silk skill leak?

[toxic vigil]

So max rune rage deals less than silkspear or any other silk skill

[plain tundra]

What anime is that?

[gleaming blaze]

Oh, okay, it doesn't matter. Anyway, I'll find a way to say what they say.

[neon geyser]

jjk

[civic snow]

Flukemarm if she were 10 times wider, then every shot would hit trust

[balmy wraith]

jujustu kaisen

[plain tundra]

Thanks

[velvet cape]

Bleacj

[glad ingot]

i thought it cooked if they hit

the problem is they dont

[untold dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1463828264064778394/caen3homkqeg1.gif

[toxic vigil]

Its like.
Eh
Its a bit slow and usually id rather heal

[velvet cape]

WHAT THE FUCK

[balmy wraith]

i feel like with my luck, at least 2 wont hit that

[toxic vigil]

It dosen't cook at best btw

[gleaming blaze]

Well, I'm leaving. I don't want to strain my brain trying to understand what they're saying because it gives me a headache afterwards.

[glad ingot]

understandable, but i say that for every silk skill though

[gleaming blaze]

[civic snow]

Aight then, cya

[civic snow]

[plain tundra]

Sorry we couldn’t help, but good luck finding a spanish server

[toxic vigil]

Wait no i am stupid about rune rage dmg

[civic snow]

I feel like it barely does any damage

[gleaming blaze]

It doesn't matter, even if I see that they are good people. Take care.

[toxic vigil]

With no multi binder and injector band it say its around 3 / 4 for me, with these 2 i would only ever use cross stitch and sometimes thread storm

[toxic vigil]

X3 needle damage

[glacial compass]

I just beat grand mother silk why was she kinda easy

[civic snow]

Wait and how much does max needle do again? 25?

[untold nacelle]

20 i think

[toxic vigil]

Max needle is 21

[civic snow]

63...that's actually pretty good

[toxic vigil]

Your base needle is 5 damage and gains 4 per upgrade

[plain tundra]

She’s a pushover, but not the true final boss

[barren dew]

I HATE shading

[civic snow]

I've only used silkspear near beginning game so that's probably why i thought it was so weak

[plain tundra]

Not very joyful of you

[civic snow]

Eh cross stitch carrying me anyways

I'm in love with parrying in games

[barren dew]

How can I be completely joyful if the results doesn't end up like how I want it 😞

[plain tundra]

Mood

[toxic vigil]

Yeah but-
Crosstitch does the same amount and if you aren't bad at timing is megative risk
Sharpdart is lower risk for lower range and equall or slightly higher dmg
Thread storm is more risky but way more dmg and can is amazing for enemy gauntlets and some summons
Pale nails can be done while waiting and is same damage
Rune rage is worse

[barren dew]

@native canyon

[toxic vigil]

Rune rage is worse thread storm bc its more risky and needs to hit 5 times to be more dmg

[barren dew]

It's okay

[civic snow]

I just came back and see a bug ass reply for me lemme read it rq

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-wolf-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-wolf-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-puss-in-boots-death-wolf-slow-gif-27423369

[grim widget]

It’s cooler

Enough said

[jolly oak]

cant post huge flea so just pretend i sent a huge flea image

[velvet cape]

I fucking love puss in boots

[civic snow]

Fatass
-# (the flea, not u )

[toxic vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-flea-silksong-hollow-knight-gif-15513825553456091676

[civic snow]

so it's still preference and dependant on the situation ig

[toxic vigil]

Cross stitch is cooler imo

[grim widget]

It is

[jolly oak]

thank you for the disclaimer

[untold nacelle]

Poshanka

[civic snow]

Parry is the coolest thing in games

Who agrees

[sturdy trellis]

spear is pretty solid

it's pretty nice as an allround option, good burst potential and can be used to snipe summons

[toxic vigil]

At 4 orbs rune rage deals 2 damage less than thread storm
At 5 orbs its 7 more

[lusty grove]

Rune Rage is the best skill if your oponent is omnipresent

[toxic vigil]

While being more risky
Also rng

[jolly oak]

need huge flea silk skill

summon huge flea to slam the enemies into pancakes

[civic snow]

Ye tho you barely hit 5

[toxic vigil]

Contact damage and you die rip bozo

[civic snow]

Which makes it useless + waste of silk

[native tusk]

Just defeated the cogwork dancers

[lusty grove]

Silk Spear is the best skill if your oponent vertically covers your entire jumping range

[civic snow]

• waste of silk skill slot

[civic snow]

Congrats, now beat 500 moss mothers at the same time

[lusty grove]

Thread Storm is the best skill if your oponent is either immobile or constantly moving towards you

[civic snow]

last judge doing both of these be like:

[sturdy trellis]

against single target theres not really anything where i'd want thread storm over pale nails im ngl

nails is so disgusting in bosses

[civic snow]

I used thread storm all the way when i found it until i met cross stitch

[sturdy trellis]

yeah same

[lusty grove]

Sharp Dart is the best skill if your opponent is thinner than Sharp Dart is long

[sturdy trellis]

it's fun to use but i dont think it does enough damage to be worthwhile when competing with nails

[toxic vigil]

Void or non void

[lusty grove]

Cross Stitch is the best skill if your opponent tends to remain close to their attack hitboxes

[civic snow]

Ngl i only ever used the sharp dart to kill the worms for hunter's journal cuz i didn't find any other ways to kill them

At the time

[lusty grove]

Thread Storm kills them

[toxic vigil]

I found cross stitch super late lol.

[iron spear]

Hornet Bash is the best for found last fight

[graceful oyster]

Graig cameo

[civic snow]

I'm not sure but i think i tried but it didn't work

[toxic vigil]

And at first didn't use it

[barren dew]

Woah hi Graig the blue

[civic snow]

Uh...void

[lusty grove]

Pale Nails is the best skill if your opponent is either immobile or slower than Pale Nails

[lusty grove]

if you keep spamming F after using it it deals more damage

[timid plinth]

i was using mirrors to kill them

[iron spear]

I have been many colours

[barren dew]

Have you been green

[civic snow]

Bro is gonna end up saying "cross stitch is only good if an enemy hits you" 🥀

[lusty grove]

am I forgetting any skill? I feel like I am
Silk Spear, Thread Storm, Cross Stitch, Sharp Dart, Pale Nails, and...?

[harsh yarrow]

Hey Graig, while your about I wanted to ask a quick question
Did you voice anyone in Silksong? Too lazy to go though the credits right now

And, when Rocs Oddessy

[toxic vigil]

Oh right those can whiff

[civic snow]

Yes but i was doing a blind playthrough, i didn't find out about this until much later after i saw a fireborn short

[timid plinth]

rune rage

[iron spear]

My secret shame the colour I have never achieved

[civic snow]

Like at 95% completion i found out that you can extend thread storm

[lusty grove]

oh, yeah, Rune Rage
I feel like I already mentioned it

[toxic vigil]

I used them once ever and they seemed like slightly better silkspear

[sturdy trellis]

nails are very good yes

[barren dew]

That's okay I have never been red

[lusty grove]

Cross Stitch is the best skill if your opponent tends to stay close to their attack hitboxes

[toxic vigil]

How often do they whiff

[sturdy trellis]

depends on the enemy

[verbal trench]

holy fuck. graig from silksong

[toxic vigil]

Facetank with cross stitch and needle spam.

[lusty grove]

it sucks with Shakra

[iron spear]

Nah I didn't. I probably could have but they had most of the voices done by the time I was free

[sturdy trellis]

some stuff like pinstress or trobbio, fairly often

[toxic vigil]

Like uh
Lets say lost lace?

[civic snow]

Literally almost every melee enemy

[sturdy trellis]

ah lost lace is one of the few i dont really know about

[verbal trench]

i just finished my biopsych test i am SO fucked chat

[sturdy trellis]

think her specifically they miss somewhat often tho?

[barren dew]

If you could get the chance, who would you like to voice?

[sturdy trellis]

but most enemies they will just hit

[timid plinth]

she can dodge them but not often

[iron spear]

Grindle

[barren dew]

BASED I LOVE GRINDLE

[iron spear]

Guys who love money, that's my vc

[harsh yarrow]

Fair enough, if you don't mind me asking another question, did you play the earlier builds of the game, more specifically the... early 2022 builds, before they blew the Red Coral Gorge up
Just curious as to how exactly TC planned to make it flow

[lusty grove]

it sucks with Shakra, Voltvyrm, and Palestag, and only works sometimes with Cogwork Dancers, Seth, and Khann (I'm sure I'm forgetting some bosses)

[civic snow]

Grindle the damn thief

[timid plinth]

tbh ive never had pale nails that missed

[toxic vigil]

Cross stitch downsides:
Hard to activate in the right spot ( gms ) or whiffs ( shakra, some attacks of bosses )
Upsides: everything except damage, that is neutral

[toxic vigil]

Voltvyrm is not a boss..?
Its like a miniboss encounter

[civic snow]

Voltwyrm, palestag and khann aren't melee bosses

[harsh yarrow]

Totally not harvesting info for helping to improve the Pharlooms Glory mod nope :3

[tight viper]

It’s a boss

[iron spear]

Nah they weren't in testing phase at that time. No one tested them as far as I know (other than TC lol)

[toxic vigil]

Ehhh

[lusty grove]

I think it should count as a boss, it has a whole area

[harsh yarrow]

Tragic, but fair

[barren dew]

@rich herald

[verbal trench]

@rich herald

[tight viper]

Doesn’t feel like a boss fight, but it’s objectively a boss

[toxic vigil]

Voltnest lasts around 3 minutes

[harsh yarrow]

I'm really sad we never saw much of the Red Coral Gorge

[toxic vigil]

Its like a miniboss

[lusty grove]

still an area

[barren dew]

hollow

[verbal trench]

hii

[lusty grove]

ik, but still

[tight viper]

It feels like one, sure

[untold nacelle]

Shaw

[haughty ingot]

ah so that's why silksong is so ass

[verbal trench]

i'm almost done some animations i've been working on

[harsh yarrow]

Damn it's the skeleton

[toxic vigil]

Cross stitch is my fav because its instant
Like ddark in hk had a cooldown before iframes

[iron spear]

@haughty ingot yeah. Feel sorry for ppl who everyday waiting for it and reporting on it. Poor guys

[haughty ingot]

a pity

[lusty grove]

Thread Storm upsides: one of the highest dpu (damage per use)
downsides: doesn't work if your opponent can move backwards

[barren dew]

Graig....could you tell us the future of Silksong....

[sturdy trellis]

the damage per use isnt even that good if you consider the downtime though

[iron spear]

Yes

[lusty grove]

it's still 93 damage every time you use it

[sturdy trellis]

like compared to pale nails which you can slam and then you're free to move and hit the enemy again

[iron spear]

I saw something the other day. You'll all love it, and meme it for the next 5 years min

[tight viper]

Pale Nails are overrated

[lusty grove]

the unextended version deals 69 damage with is more than Pale Nails

[toxic vigil]

Thread storm is situasional and you have to play around its small range

[worldly umbra]

any suggestions yall

[sturdy trellis]

yeah it's 6 extra damage and it's way clunkier

and nails can just be thrown out at a distance

[barren dew]

Are you in Sea of sorrow by any chance hmmmm so many questions

[toxic vigil]

For new areas or filling these?

[worldly umbra]

both

[iron spear]

Need pachinko machines

[lusty grove]

Pale Nails upsides: great dpu, very fast, almost always hits
downsides: keyword "almost", basically useless considering the moment you get them

[harsh yarrow]

Normal TC moment

Oh come on discord send my damn message

[sturdy trellis]

the upside of nails are also that they're fast and very independant of positioning

[harsh yarrow]

Anyways, mod stuff
Kadala on the HK modding discord helped me out with making art assets, so now the Hud Frame for the Wyrm Crest I'm making exists
Just not positioned right

[sturdy trellis]

pretty much anytime you're out of punishing range and dont have to move you can just press your one billion free damage button

[harsh yarrow]

There it is

[tight viper]

Only 63

[lusty grove]

63 damage (21 per Nail)

[toxic vigil]

Pale nails is 3 per use.
Thats like cross stitch / silkspear

[sturdy trellis]

i know

[iron spear]

My kids just asked me if I knew what Pokemon is. Do not recite the old magic to me

[sturdy trellis]

but it adds up

[harsh yarrow]

Lol

[worldly umbra]

just quick thing i made for the map (yes thats seth this is a seth game)

[chrome canopy]

did I break something...

[tight viper]

Unless it misses

[neon geyser]

needolin

[haughty ingot]

your'e at the right place

[chrome canopy]

oh

[worldly umbra]

based on this drawing how much would you wanna play this'

[sturdy trellis]

they dont really miss that often

[lusty grove]

I just learnt that Silkspear deals as much damage as if all Pale Nails hit, wtf

[toxic vigil]

Interesting slots. What does it do

[sturdy trellis]

and in spots where they do, dont use them

not that complicated

[subtle lynx]

I mentioned before I didn't understand the runback complaints but also bosses not giving rewards, I think most of them either drop STH or have a reward locked behind them a few rooms away

[tight viper]

Or just use silk spear

[chrome canopy]

OH MY GOD IT'S

[lusty grove]

you already posted this 5 times, and it's peak every time

[harsh yarrow]

The moveset is still using the Shamans as a base, plan to replace it with a modified Hunters Crest moveset

[main urchin]

Imagine what it looks like filled in… or wait… what if it’s all hollowed out… and you fall for minutes on end….

[sturdy trellis]

yeah silk spear to hit the enemy thats diagonally above me

[worldly umbra]

glaze counter: 5

[toxic vigil]

Is it like hk or

[sturdy trellis]

sounds great

[tight viper]

Jump up

[worldly umbra]

hollow knight sethmeth

[iron spear]

I have been helping Dave Kazi on his new MV he's making. It's got that HK flair that he leaned making HK1. You guys in for a lil treat one day

[lusty grove]

cuz it is peak

[haughty ingot]

MV as in metroidvania?

[main urchin]

hi

[sturdy trellis]

also i want to say spear has a slightly longer period of immobility compared to nails (unless you wall cancel)? this is off vibes tho

[main urchin]

It’s not Mariovania

[iron spear]

Yup

It's v good

[sturdy trellis]

that said, yeah spear has some utility in places where nails do not

[harsh yarrow]

I'm still stuck with exactly what it should do, to try and make it a spell focused without being invalidated by or invalidating the Shamans Crest
As it stands, it gives you an extra silk heart, and vastly improves silk regeneration speed
As for the pink slot, it's something from the Needleforge mod that accepts both tools and spells

[sturdy trellis]

but this also applies the other way around

[barren dew]

What is it about I'm curious

[iron spear]

cute robots

[barren dew]

I LOVE ROBOTS

YES YES YES YES

[haughty ingot]

Ohh sick
I remember the teaser from a few years(?) ago but I haven't been following on what he's doing since

[honest flume]

yeah i might have to reset the run

[iron spear]

Yeah it's coming along. More games coming for you all. Roc reskin looking good too 🙂 much more sophisticated art

[harsh yarrow]

I'm certainly down for suggestions as to what a Pale King/Wyrm Crest can do, but I don't want it to just be reskinned Shamans or Kingsoul

[iron spear]

I'd post a concept art but I only have 30,000 msgs not enough for pic posting sadly

[lusty grove]

Hollow Knight: Quirrel Game (the prequel)
Hollow Knight
Hollow Knight: Silksong
Hollow Knight: Zoteboat
Hollow Knight: Sethmeth
Hollow Knight 2
Hollow Knight: Silksong 2
Hollow Knight: Dung Defense
Hollow Knight: Quirrel Game (the sequel)
Hollow Knight: Zoteboat 2
Hollow Knight: Silksong: Lacedance
Hollow Knight: Silksong 3
Hollow Knight: Zoteboat 2 Remaster
Hollow Knight: Finale - Part 1
Hollow Knight: Finale - Part 2
Hollow Knight: Finale - Part 2: Silksong
Hollow Knight World

[tight viper]

Missing Hollow Knight: The Reckoning

[haughty ingot]

huh reskin?

[harsh yarrow]

Within reason, of course, TC can't code for their lives and I have to work with it

[iron spear]

Yeah changing the art and world up.

[barren dew]

How it feels to be informed of awesome news

[lusty grove]

oh yeah I forgot about that one

[hardy tangle]

cant wait for hollow knight remastered

[lusty grove]

what's y'all's favorite Hollow Knight game? Mine's Dung Defense

[hardy tangle]

hollow knight shaman

[iron spear]

Heh silksong is still based on HK code lol

[barren dew]

Wait actually genuine question are we getting more hk related games sorry I ask stupid questions

[hardy tangle]

imagine a spell focused shaman game where you can mix spells and block like nine sols 😩

[harsh yarrow]

The crest code is really fun to to work with, it's extremely scattered
Lucky Needleforge means that I don't have to interact with it directly

... often

[dawn leaf]

tc has not planned any right now, but they also havent ruled it out

[iron spear]

I like HK the anime. The one about dung defender joining Hallownest Academy. Where he has to prove himself. The school is run by the 4 elite Knights. He dreams of becoming the fifth night one day. Will his dreams come true?

[hardy tangle]

i wouldnt be surprised if its just a metroidvania but in a diff universe

[barren dew]

Ohhh

[harsh yarrow]

One of the needleforge devs joked that they'd be impressed if Team Cherry can even manage adding another crest

[hardy tangle]

tc will make a rhythm game in 2028

[trim estuary]

February 2028 for sure

[hardy tangle]

2 games and they still havent made a boss that attacks with the music

[haughty ingot]

I love the episode where he bumps into Isma while she's running late to school with a toast in her mouth

[lusty grove]

oh, yeah, the one Dung Defense was inspired by

[hardy tangle]

umm thats so not inclusive erm deaf people exist

[iron spear]

He's such a Baka

[lusty grove]

I like the episode where he beats up Blackwyrm

[hardy tangle]

kyaaa hegemol senpai

[hardy tangle]

was there a black wyrm in hk am i tweaking

[lusty grove]

the one where he learns he has Dung Powers was kinda mid, but I liked how they introduced Flukemarm

[lusty grove]

it's mentioned in White Defender's Journal Entry

[raw pawn]

Random question, did you find Grimm harder or Widow

[hardy tangle]

no wonder i had no clue

[kindred gust]

Literally mentioned once off-handidly in dung defenders journal entry.

[lusty grove]

the sequel sucks, but the sequel's prequel is peak

[kindred gust]

Grimm was hard on first playthrough, then he became easy when i discovered NKG

[iron spear]

Blackwyrm, Pale Kings neighbour in the village. They had a huge war over the fence line of their houses. Millions died

[hardy tangle]

i love quirrel but the idea of a prequel with quirrel just sounds bad im sorry

[lusty grove]

Widow cuz Silksong is a harder game overall and I did her with Reaper cuz I'm stupid

[lusty grove]

wdym? it'd be peak

[hardy tangle]

what would quirrel even do

[haughty ingot]

They have been rivals since childhood

[hardy tangle]

we already know 90% of everything about him

[haughty ingot]

or cocoonhood rather

[raw pawn]

Imagine if widow's 2nd phase was the whole fight

[kindred gust]

Parry slop with his magic mask

[hardy tangle]

so it would be like playing a blank protag with no backstory

[hardy tangle]

if you want parry id rather get a shaman protag

quirrel cant remember anything so we dont get anything about him

[lusty grove]

Radiance is Blackwyrm's best friend and the girl who bullies Isma. Billions suffer every day due to her actions

[nova hemlock]

we're getting a THK farming sim actually

where you rebuild hallownest or smth

[hardy tangle]

like silkong is great cus we get to know so much about hornet and we got scenes like red memory

quirrels equivalent of red memory will just be like a faint flashback of vague monomon shaped figure or something

[kindred gust]

Honestly i wouldn't mind a little guided adventure with quirrel. Im not expecting him to literally break the world like Hornet and the knight did, just like kill a beast for a town of bugs or something.

[lusty grove]

idk, maybe he was a worse character and develops character development
maybe he's on a quest to get his memory back but he loses it at the end of the game again

[iron spear]

The seer teachers communism in class 303

[hardy tangle]

also theyre gonna have to build quirels character development to make sense so it matches hollow knight he cant just have a completely different personality he gotta be jolly and shit

[kindred gust]

Like quirrel is very skilled, but hes not a god like the knight and hornet are, so his stakes for a game would be much lower, but i wouldn't mind

[lusty grove]

Markoth is the quiet kid. Galien is the kid who thinks he is the popular kid, but he isn't

[hardy tangle]

tiny ass game

dialogue with him would be fun to read

like finally character thats talks and not silent or stoic

[silk crypt]

sillkkson is great

[kindred gust]

👌

[lusty grove]

imagine like a game that's just Silksong wishes. A bunch of small sidequests. And Quirrel

[kindred gust]

There was actually a Maskbearer fan game for quirrel, but they switched protags, which is a bit of a shame

[hardy tangle]

also as a prequel we cant really get into all the stuff the other 2 games are like void is super important and wtf will quirrel do about that his ass not stepping into the abyss for 1 second

[kindred gust]

Monster hunter for bugs

[lusty grove]

"go kill that beast"
"find my daughter"
"seal the god of moonlight"
"fish 10 cool seabugs"

[earnest drift]

third game about lifeblood and lifeblood is linked to void

[hardy tangle]

rather just get lifeblood stuff in a silksong dlc tbh

[kindred gust]

"Kill rathalos"

[lusty grove]

ngl that kinda rules, I'd like to play that game

[hardy tangle]

FIND MY PAGES

[chrome canopy]

WHO ARE YOU I HAVE NEVER SEEN YOU BEFORE IN MY LIFE

I HAVE 100% WDYM YOU EXIST

[lusty grove]

a calm kinda short game where you play as Quirrel helping the townsfolk with whatever bs they need

[kindred gust]

Metalbug

[lusty grove]

instant GOTY

[earnest drift]

probably going to appear in godhome btw

[chrome canopy]

what

it can't be that bad right

[kindred gust]

Lmao literally my suggestion 🤣

[chrome canopy]

IT DIED IN ONE HIT
INSTANTLY
HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE IN GODHOME

[hardy tangle]

armored beastfly

[lusty grove]

and at the end when you help everyone Quirrel asks them for a map to Hallownest, which links it to the first game

[earnest drift]

craggler, big flea, covetous pilgrim, cogwork clapper and choir clapper will also be in godhome

[chrome canopy]

Hornet describes it as "devious"

[lusty grove]

yeah ik I'm just describing how peak it'd be

[kindred gust]

You haven't found the nest yet? The one with the mother?

[hardy tangle]

triple the size

[chrome canopy]

the what

[hardy tangle]

bro spoiled it

[lusty grove]

none of those are bosses

[kindred gust]

Yeah the shellshard nest

[chrome canopy]

Yeah

[hardy tangle]

cogwork clapper vs choir clapper whos clapping the best

[earnest drift]

that's what we thought of soul warrior and vengefly king as well

[chrome canopy]

Idk what that is

[exotic cedar]

If craggler is in godhome i will stop playing anything team cherry makes and leave this server

[kindred gust]

Secret room all im saying, get searching

[strange knot]

I dislike that boss so much

[earnest drift]

i wouldn't mind craggler being in a pantheon if instead of fighting them, it worked as a long hallway you had to run through as a dramatic transition between bosses

same with gauntlets, if they'll appear in godhome

[strange knot]

That’d be goated

[lusty grove]

Vengefly King is obviously a boss, and Soul Warrior is weird, BUT
Craggler is more of an environmental hazard than a boss, and fighting it in Godhome would suck ass
Covetous Pilgrim doesn't even play like a boss, they're just guys
Cogwork Clapper MIGHT be a boss, idk
Choir Clapper is as much of a boss as Last Claw

[chrome canopy]

this looks like a breakable wall BUT IT ISN'T

[kindred gust]

Craggler is probably not gonna be in godhome, he js more a massive environmental hazard than a boss

[hardy tangle]

posting this cus it was relevant 3 minutes ago

[strange knot]

Same thing is in Whisp vault

[exotic cedar]

Quirell sols

[lusty grove]

I mean, there is a lot of lore we haven't seen about Quirrel
proof: what is Monomon?

[kindred gust]

Quirrel would unironicaly probably beat lace

[vivid raptor]

Teacher

[hardy tangle]

is last claw a real thing or did you plant that in my brain i feel like its real help

[lusty grove]

I mean what

[hardy tangle]

dreamer whos also a nerd

[earnest drift]

quirrel can beat uumuu because he knows how to
he hasn't studied lace

[lusty grove]

it's an enemy that appears before Karmelita's bossfight

[kindred gust]

Jelly

[lusty grove]

I mean what

[hardy tangle]

oh yeahh

[strange knot]

Snail shaman that gives you VC might be my favourite character

[hardy tangle]

the one that does 1 damage contact for some reason

[kindred gust]

Yeah but quirrel has literal plot armor

[hardy tangle]

william pellen playtested last claw he kept dying to it so lowered the contact dmg to 1

[earnest drift]

lace has way more plot armour than quirrel lmao
quirrel dies

[lusty grove]

yeah but what kind of jelly? is it magical jelly? is it related to Isma's acid, since she lives in an acid lake? could it possibly be related to soul, since silk was?

a bunch of questions that could be answered by a Quirrel Game

[earnest drift]

lace gets beaten up by hornet twice then cuts off a god's arm

[hardy tangle]

shes a geek who researched shit

[exotic cedar]

What if they make a game about me instead

[kindred gust]

This quirrel slander shouldn't ne allowed

[hardy tangle]

that was all she did for hallownest as far as we know, or the most important thing she did

[kindred gust]

Mods, cast testicular tortion

[earnest drift]

quirrel is a good character but lace has more plot armour than any other character

[hardy tangle]

research jellyfish and lumaflies

and electrocute lumaflies what a psychopath

[strange knot]

Wait, how tf is this slander

[hardy tangle]

sherma tries to be silksongs quirrel but just failed cus he didnt die

[lusty grove]

I meant what, not who

[kindred gust]

Mods, tungsten ballsack

[strange knot]

Flea brew

[hardy tangle]

some weird jellyfish woman

[lusty grove]

Nah, it's Garmond

[hardy tangle]

tell me what lurien is the watchers just got a weird design

look at herrah why she built like that

[strange knot]

Agree

[hardy tangle]

i mean i dont mind it haha

@ebon remnant hmu haha

[earnest drift]

anyway about lace protagonist
i don't think the game has to be about silk again, if we made stretches then i think maybe the next game could be about a lifeblood infection that lace can collect from striking enemies and she uses it to sustain herself

but it's not a long term solution and by the end of the game she's looking for a way to sustain herself permanently

[strange knot]

Sherma is more of an myla

[exotic cedar]

Lurien is actually pale kings gay lover

[earnest drift]

sherma is much better than myla

[lusty grove]

She's related to acid, which is related to Isma, which is never explained. Those Jellyfish she has certainly have something going on

[strange knot]

Not really surprised

[kindred gust]

Yeah lace 100% is gonna end up like phantom

[exotic cedar]

Lace parry based combat

[hardy tangle]

what if hornet neglects lace in the third game and she fends for herself and the whole game you cant heal once and you have 3 hearts

[kindred gust]

Thats already a thing, its called nine sols

[earnest drift]

also lace's "spells" would probably be void
a leftover from act 3

[strange knot]

We need harder phantom in pantheon dlc btw

[exotic cedar]

There is no lace in nine sols

[hardy tangle]

js do shamans

[earnest drift]

0/10 game

[exotic cedar]

Nah

[strange knot]

Respectfully disagree

[kindred gust]

There is, she is called Yi

[earnest drift]

if there's no lace it's not worth it

[exotic cedar]

Nine sols might be the peakest game i played

[vivid raptor]

Lifeblood
Poision Lifeblood = Deathblood

[hardy tangle]

how does lace even heal explain that

[exotic cedar]

I'm at the final boss right now

[cobalt pilot]

Monomon is related to karak

Somehow

[kindred gust]

Testicular tortion and tungsten ballsack combo 🪄

[exotic cedar]

And might be the best video game boss i will ever fight

[hardy tangle]

sure whatever

[strange knot]

THAT WHAT I WAS THINKING WHEN I SAW THE JELLYFISH

[cobalt pilot]

She is

Compare the names of the jellies she made with the jellies of karak

[kindred gust]

Eigong top 10 metroidvania fights of all time

[earnest drift]

if her game is set in a kingdom undergoing a lifeblood infection then collecting lifeblood could be her way of sustaining herself temporarily
and her journey's goal is to find a more permanent way to sustain herself

[cobalt pilot]

And look at HER and her tendrils

[hardy tangle]

what is she khanns sister okay buddy

[exotic cedar]

She kicked my ass twice, i still have level 1 healing pipe lmao

[earnest drift]

but that requires a lot of if conditions

[hardy tangle]

what will lifeblood even do

[cobalt pilot]

Team Cherry could NEVER come up with a plot twist that good

[earnest drift]

so it's still unlikely

[hardy tangle]

like how will lifeblood even heal her shes all silk theres no organs no flesh

[kindred gust]

Wtf thats some next level shit

[cobalt pilot]

Can lifeblood make silk regenerate

[earnest drift]

i don't think that matters for lifeblood

[cobalt pilot]

Lace just becomes a shiny blob of lifeblood with legs

[kindred gust]

I doubt lace can use lifeblood at all

[exotic cedar]

I did it with pure determination

[hardy tangle]

also the whole game everything is blue hell nah bro

[earnest drift]

lace's true hp is 1 mask, everything else is lifeblood stacked on top

[hardy tangle]

introducing green lifeblood

[strange knot]

Why didn’t you upgrade it😭

[stable pilot]

Hello chat?

[kindred gust]

Can we all atleast agree that Phantom (as a character) is way cooler than Lace

[earnest drift]

is it stated that you need to be flesh and blood for lifeblood to work on you

[strange knot]

I did it once I got the chance

[cobalt pilot]

PURPLE lifeblood

[stable pilot]

Tf is this about

[earnest drift]

yes

[hardy tangle]

yesyes

[cobalt pilot]

They're both very cool

[exotic cedar]

I didnt find the herb catalysts

[hardy tangle]

how is that possible wtf

[stable pilot]

Maybe

[cobalt pilot]

Phantom has aura and lace gets to live

[earnest drift]

phantom is one of the only characters allowed to be better than lace

[stable pilot]

Use POLLUP pouch

[exotic cedar]

I have no idea how.

[hardy tangle]

prime phantom fight where they wear a suit

[kindred gust]

Have yall seen that guy working on a phantom skin for a mod?

[cobalt pilot]

Lace had to give up a smidgen of her aura so team cherry didn't smite her

[stable pilot]

No

[cobalt pilot]

But she regained it in lost lace fight

[earnest drift]

along with bell beast, shakra, hornet, the knight and the hollow knight

[strange knot]

Don’t you just need money?

[vivid raptor]

I love plasmium I really love plasmium

[cobalt pilot]

THK 🥹

[strange knot]

To buy it from cute cat?

[hardy tangle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/frank-reynolds-danny-devito

[earnest drift]

so at her absolute worst lace is the seventh best character

[cobalt pilot]

Is this you

[vivid raptor]

Yes

[kindred gust]

https://youtu.be/KlmeLKK2KVg?si=gr86CpKpN37q--_e

[cobalt pilot]

I'm worried

[vivid raptor]

Plasmium is the best

[cobalt pilot]

I can't wait to see the cutscenes for this mod

[vivid raptor]

Inject inject

[cobalt pilot]

Anyway I'm gonna go and research renpy or something

[exotic cedar]

Amount of healing pipe heals and the total HP healed by the pipe is different

[vivid raptor]

Fighting lace as phantom

[cobalt pilot]

Ta ta

[hardy tangle]

plasmium corny asf just call it lifeblood

[cobalt pilot]

I knowww there's so much story potential here

[vivid raptor]

Plasmium

[stable pilot]

Actually sick

[earnest drift]

what if lace protagonist used the same pool for both her health and mana

[strange knot]

Plasmium is a thing that called lifeblood but is plasmium at the same time with being lifeblood

[earnest drift]

sacrificing half a mask to cast a spell

[exotic cedar]

What if the next tc game isnt about any hk/silksong character at all

[fiery burrow]

peak

[kindred gust]

Idk i think lace would be pure pin combat, wr never really see her use silk or spells for anything

[hardy tangle]

and then after beating the master in the memory fight shakra is sitting next to you when you wake up and she delivers a heartfelt monologue about life and death and the struggles of grief

[strange knot]

I think it’ll happen ngl. Iirc they stated something about it

[earnest drift]

is it dumb to have the void still lurking somewhere in her and it comes out in the form of her "spells" (void tendrils, descending dark etc)

probably doesn't happen until halfway in the game though

[hardy tangle]

voidslop

[earnest drift]

i like void

[kindred gust]

It is kinda, considering the only reason she wasnt completely destroyed by the void is because her mother kept her alive. Without her the void would just kill her

[stable pilot]

No, it's not Farfetched actually

But then you have to cure yourself, somehow

[earnest drift]

i thought gms was trying to stop the void from getting to her in the first place
and in the end she failed because lost lace happened, she was only slowing the inevitable

[stable pilot]

She was trying to not let her daughter fall even further

[kindred gust]

Exactly, she slowed laces inevitable death from void

[hardy tangle]

gms can slow my death from the void any time

[kindred gust]

Because void tries to destroy any soul it can get its hands on, and considering lace is completely made from silk, i doubt it would go well for her otherwise

[earnest drift]

lace might react differently with the void than other bugs though because she's built different
she survived being lost while garmond died

[vivid raptor]

Lace is the Hornet of Hollow Knight

[kindred gust]

Mom

[hardy tangle]

garmonds old and washed

[vivid raptor]

I want to get kratt in the blasted steps and feed him to the worms

[earnest drift]

from what i gathered void doesn't destroy soul, it combines with it and destroys whatever is holding the soul
which is why every other bug that gets voided dies
lace is 100% soul/silk so there's nothing to destroy

the knight's spells are also void combining with soul

[vivid raptor]

Or maybe throw him Into muck water

[hardy tangle]

i wonder if void is like infection where if you have a strong mind you cant get voided probably not

[earnest drift]

definitely not

[kindred gust]

If doesn't combine with it, it just completely destroys it, it just takes a while for it to happen i assume

[hardy tangle]

it would make sense for lace to be super voided into lost lace cus shes a misrable depressed fuck

[buoyant crater]

cause i would say garmond had a strong mind
i wonder why zaza didnt get voided tho>

[vivid raptor]

Don't the haunted have silk wrapped around their organs? Could a silk extraction surgery fix a haunted pilgrim?

[buoyant crater]

although i guess hornet did tell him to rest. and he didnt. and then he died
boom shacka lacka

[hardy tangle]

yeah but hes old maybe his shriveled up prune brain just couldnt handle it

[earnest drift]

yeah probably

[hardy tangle]

but maybe it was strong enough where he could fight while voided unlike some who just die instantly

[void moat]

silk is also in the air and in the water so it wouldnt help much in the long run

especially considering it’s in other animals too so you cant eat anything without being silked either

[vivid raptor]

Grand Mother Silk was strong enough to resist the Void to save Lace

[hardy tangle]

why dont the flying bug just fly out are they dumb

[hardy tangle]

yeah cus higher being AND maybe it was cus of the will and determination she had to save lace

determination

deter mi nation

[earnest drift]

i like lost lace

[hardy tangle]

go find it AHAHAHHAH get it cus shes lost AHHA

[vivid raptor]

She didn't want to let her line go extinct. She'd rather save Hornet and Lace to continue her line probably

[earnest drift]

no she just loves lace

even though she manipulated and neglected her

she doesn't want her to die

[hardy tangle]

i was gonna say maybe gms implanted a baby version of her inside laces silk but thats super weird i dont think even gms would do that

[vivid raptor]

If she loved Lace she would've saved Phantom

[exotic cedar]

If lace is lost just make a new one. Problem solved.

[earnest drift]

phantom isn't lace
gms specifically thought phantom was imperfect so she scrapped them

wait is that the reason

because she says lace is flawed as well

[kindred gust]

We dont know that for sure yet

[vivid raptor]

And isn't Lace imperfect too?

[hardy tangle]

phantom is perfect tho

[vale zodiac]

No.

[earnest drift]

yes

[vivid raptor]

Summoned Saviour has the worst runback omg

[shy spoke]

LMAO

[opaque vale]

Played og hk cuz of the switch 2 update and holy shit silksong really got me used to double damage

[neon geyser]

Agreed

[kindred gust]

Imagine abandoning a cool ass daughter like Phantom... for Lace? Biggest fumble in History 🤦‍♂️

[vivid raptor]

Literally

[earnest drift]

so why was phantom thrown away

[opaque vale]

Didn’t get to that boss what’s the run back

[opaque vale]

Cuz they’re mid

[vivid raptor]

Your whole run LMAO

[opaque vale]

Oh yeah 😭😭😭

[shy spoke]

It’s a steel soul only boss

[vivid raptor]

It's steel soul exclusive

[crisp heron]

like more than 3 screen transitions

[lusty grove]

I think they were unravelling cuz of the Organ's toxic stuff

[hardy tangle]

how it felt to play hk outside of godhome after silksong

[opaque vale]

Can’t u just like save and quit before dying

[vivid raptor]

BTW, Widow has needolin lines

[crisp heron]

technically yes but thats cheat scumming and takes away from the point of the game mode

[earnest drift]

yeah grand mother silk says that lace wasn't perfect

[vivid raptor]

Is that Monomo

[kindred gust]

Although i love silksong, HK still has a very charming quality that isn't in silksong ❤️

[opaque vale]

Don’t I know you

[shy spoke]

No that’s monoMAN

[crisp heron]

uhh do you

[opaque vale]

I think I do

[crisp heron]

oh wait hey yeah

[hardy tangle]

i still loved the replay but it FEELS old

[crisp heron]

i do remember you

[vivid raptor]

Than them? Is she referring to Phantom?

[crisp heron]

i was just thinking of you a couple of hours ago actually

[earnest drift]

no, referring to the weavers

[shy spoke]

Probably weavers

[opaque vale]

Oh wow ur obsessed with me I knew it

[kindred gust]

Them is refering to weavers

[vivid raptor]

Ohhh

[hardy tangle]

also im surprised how much the art changed i couldnt tell you what changed but it did

[pulsar sable]

hi guys

[vivid raptor]

My mistake

[crisp heron]

pshaaw nah anyway im gonna show yourhe plush i got of the character yiu cosplayed

[hardy tangle]

weavers betrayed gms so she hates them

[opaque vale]

Woah

[opaque vale]

Now if I was a weaver I’d never betray gms 🤤

[vivid raptor]

Didn't GMS treat them horribly in some ways or something

[hardy tangle]

they made is so they cant fuck without it hurting liek shit or some

[lusty grove]

Widow be like

[earnest drift]

there isn't really evidence for that, i thought they were just power hungry

[stark valve]

[hardy tangle]

cant reproduce

[opaque vale]

How did herrah do it then

[lusty grove]

she also lied to them

[hardy tangle]

diff species

[kindred gust]

We still aren't sure, maybe we would feel more bad for the weavers if they just extended their memories a little longer so we could see what Gms did

[opaque vale]

She’s still a weaver

[vivid raptor]

Yeah

[earnest drift]

i don't think that justifies the weavers putting her into a coma and building an empire on the blood of the lower class

[vivid raptor]

Hornet is a child of Weaver and Wyrm (Herrah and Pale King)

[lusty grove]

she probably also enslaved them as well as the rest of Pharloom

[hardy tangle]

yeah there 8th weavers and shit that were captured

[lusty grove]

nah nvm not the rest of Pharloom

[earnest drift]

where does the game show this

[lusty grove]

but surely the Weavers

[opaque vale]

Maybe pale king had some magic shit that allowed herrah to reproduce

[hardy tangle]

but for a weaver to have a kid they have to go through excruciating pain

[lusty grove]

it doesn't, but it is a possibility

[opaque vale]

I mean humans too

[vivid raptor]

Why does Widow have needles shoved into her spine again

[hardy tangle]

no like pushing out a boulder shaped kidney stone 5 times pain

[lusty grove]

the Pale Sperm Cell