sk-discussion

[lapis maple]

I also said NOT including buffs and tools

[warm brook]

I actually had no clue.

[opal pelican]

would you rather have cranberry slop every day or cranberry slop, orange slop, apple slop, etcslop differet every day

[night ruin]

That’s ok I didn’t try very hard to signal tone

[patent heath]

Do I have to choose?

[earnest drift]

i don't think it's a fair comparison to include wanderer's increased attack speed but exclude hunter and beast's increased dps just becase they're only active under conditions

[warm brook]

Yesn’t

[ancient mortar]

The most interesting tool in the game is the only one that really doesnt follow the blindly spam the tool in the bosses general direction strat. Delvers drill. You need to learn the openings to use it ideally. and it puts your own hitbox at risk. there should be more tools like that and less tools like curvesickle, cogfies, cogwheel, straight pin, etc.

[keen solstice]

Wanderer normal attack speed is 20 frames
Each hit deals 21 dmg
That's 63 dps

[opal pelican]

yeah i thought so buddy, heh

[upper sail]

What if you throw in flea brew or some other tool that increases attack speed?

[high sparrow]

Uhhhhhh

[cosmic maple]

uuuuuggghhhhh

[keen solstice]

19frames

[opal pelican]

nerd

[high sparrow]

Hello everyone

[worldly lake]

phantom is agender because the agender flag is most phantom colored

[earnest drift]

flea brew is so confusing i hate trying to make calculations with it

[worldly lake]

there we go

[night ruin]

Still taking answers for this btw.

[keen solstice]

The speed increase is VERY negligible on wanderer from flea brew

[cosmic maple]

welcome to the worst debate that happens everytime

[earnest drift]

where did you get this information from

[keen solstice]

Plus you want flintslate anyways

[night ruin]

Truth supernova

[high sparrow]

But the middle is green tho

[worldly lake]

that's for the bilewater

because phantom lives in bilewater

[high sparrow]

Well you aint wrong

[night ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/shakra-hornet-silksong-hollow-knight-gif-6788199416628803555

[opal pelican]

reminder that this guy thinks team cherry completely intended beast crest to bee a facetank crest

[high sparrow]

Also why the hell is there a timer on this server

[lapis maple]

It doesn't increase its attack speed.

[opal pelican]

and not like
them sucking at balancing and good ideas like the rest of the times

[warm brook]

I forgot people did this

[night ruin]

Idt team cherry intended for face tanking at all

[lapis maple]

all the crests without buffs and tools have the SAME DAMAGE

[worldly lake]

dammit i don't know the agender pronouns

[earnest drift]

you said that wanderer has +34% dps? isn't that what this is about?

[lapis maple]

no crest does more damage than others normally

[high sparrow]

Anyways how are yall doing

[night ruin]

It’s fun when people are bitching and crying about a cartoon bug standing in front of a colored flag

[opal pelican]

think usually just they/them unless stated otherwise

[lapis maple]

I said it has 34% more not +34%.

[last dew]

uhh i dont think thats a thing agender people can use she her he him etc but most of them use they

[earnest drift]

close enough

[cosmic maple]

My hottest take? hmmm maybe that every crest is fun? or that shaman is really good at killing flying enemies? or uhhh Witch and beast aren't very fun for the causal players outside of gauntlets?

[warm brook]

I just mind my business lol

[gloomy hill]

TC should play test better

[opal pelican]

pfft

[night ruin]

Why?

[high sparrow]

And also before someone here ask me if i ship hornet and lace no i do not ship them

[earnest drift]

anyway wanderer has better dps than hunter if you get hit a lot
idk about being better than beast

[last dew]

don't bring laceshipping up

[gloomy hill]

Cause face tanking is boring?

[night ruin]

What does one player’s facetanking strat have to do with your ability to have fun in your own save

[warm brook]

Depends on the boss

[high sparrow]

Why?

[icy crow]

Lace shipping with any character is banned from here anyways

[last dew]

check pinned

[opal pelican]

you dont need to do it

[ancient mortar]

where did this comment even come from

[lapis maple]

Wanderers Crest is faster normally, that's is thing compared to other crests, it literally says that in the crest description, like how Reaper says "slow, wide strikes" or whatever since it has the lowest dps.

[warm brook]

But i find it fun

[lapis maple]

But Reaper's crest doesn't decrease it's dps. It's always like that.

[high sparrow]

Huh? Why is that banned

[opal pelican]

keep lacenet in ao3 and out of hollowcord

[keen solstice]

Beast increases its fury duration from 5 to 7 seconds by healing.
Facetanking was outright intended for it

[night ruin]

If you find it boring just don’t do it? You control the buttons you press.

[last dew]

pinned

[icy crow]

It's actually Shaman that is the slowest

[lapis maple]

Same for Wanderer

[opal pelican]

lol
lmao

[worldly lake]

i'm just gonna type out phantom's full legal name whenever i need to refer to phantom

[lapis maple]

It is?

[warm brook]

I would agree

[earnest drift]

i know that
but saying it has the highest dps if you exclude conditional buffs doesn't seem very fair
because yes, then wanderer has the highest dps, but in practice it doesn't mean much

[opal pelican]

being rewarded for hitting things in your boosted form does not mean they intended facetanking

[night ruin]

Isn’t phantoms full name just Phantayvion

[lapis maple]

Wow the Crest has its own gimmick

[gloomy hill]

Deincentivises learning the boss patterns? Might as well just remove the boss atp

[warm brook]

But there’s nothing wet can do about it 🥹

[icy crow]

Phantom the Greater

[opal pelican]

team cherry is infamously ass at balancing i thought we all knew this

[last dew]

@icy crow

[icy crow]

👀 👋

[worldly lake]

is phantom's last name silk

[opal pelican]

you control the buttons you press btw

[warm brook]

lol

[worldly lake]

because grandmother silk

[opal pelican]

their last name is pain

[keen solstice]

If you include tools even if you get hit alot hunter still outdoes wanderer because 2 red slots is a huge advantage

And wanderer never reaches beast level, lol, beast goes as low as 75 dls, which is still higher than lucky wanderer, while still having 2 red slots

[worldly lake]

(first name grandmother, last name silk)

[zealous elk]

i don't care what you say, Phantom's theme cannot be beaten it's so fucking good

[night ruin]

If youre skillled enough to maximize facetanking output then clearly you already learned the boss

[gloomy hill]

Ok? And? What does that have to do with game design? People just be defending TC for anything now

[lapis maple]

how does it not mean much if an enemy stood still and there were side by side comparisons of every crest (no buffs or tools), the player using Wanderers Crest would kill its enemy first. It does mean much because you dont have to rely on things like having enough silk or tool slots to have that high dps.

[worldly lake]

phantom has my favorite intro

[gloomy hill]

Not necessarily true?

[high sparrow]

Anywho i believe that cross sticth is most underrated move in the game

[zealous elk]

EXACTLY like the steam blasts into her entry into the fight

[last dew]

lol not at all

[lapis maple]

It kind of is especially with like Lace and Phantom who have parries

[night ruin]

All the same, it’s not like face tanking trivializes anything in the grand scheme of things.

[ancient mortar]

That shit aint underated, its straight up the strongest spell in the entire game rn

[worldly lake]

phantayvion "pain" silksong is my favorite boss in general

[lapis maple]

and move around a LOT

[night ruin]

Right

[high sparrow]

Well it was when the game came out

[high sparrow]

Isnt it a silk art?

[orchid gull]

guys i just found another pair of silksong songs with shared melodies

[opal pelican]

just saying knowing theres facetanking with beast doesnt disincentivise me from learning patterns, if it does to you then thats a skill issue

[last dew]

when the game came out no one even knew about any of the skills 😭

[gloomy hill]

It does? That’s the whole point of face tanking

[earnest drift]

it doesn't mean much because when actually playing the game, conditional buffs do come into play
so excluding them to say wanderer has the hgihest means nothing for the actual game

[night ruin]

Plus, good single player games should be rewarding creative solutions.

[high sparrow]

This is true

[night ruin]

Not really

[lapis maple]

That wasn't the point of the argument at all though.

[gloomy hill]

Yes it is?

[ancient mortar]

Silk skills are spells, i just refer to them as spells because they are essentially the same as spells in the original.

[worldly lake]

i hereby headcanon phantayvion "pain" silksong as phantom's full legal name

[orchid gull]

im a really big undertale & deltarune fan and their soundtracks are known for having shared melodies across songs so ive been finding a lot of then in HK

[night ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-boom-knuckles-the-echidna-approved-gif-13958579007347866826

[icy crow]

Why are we having facetanking discourse right now

[warm brook]

because why not

[opal pelican]

you think each crest has the same base dps why is anyone taking you seriously

[icy crow]

This channel fucking SUCKS!

[earnest drift]

why not

[keen solstice]

Just nerf beast
Issue solved

[gloomy hill]

Beasts face tanking comes from its bind and you won’t always have silk to use it so it balanced out, wanderer however

[lapis maple]

You can't just face tank there's a way to do it and if you don't do that you'll fail.

[night ruin]

Silksong fans when someone plays the single player game slightly different from them:

[last dew]

some people genuinely hate the game and i wonder why they're even in this channel in first place

[warm brook]

sometimes its cool

[high sparrow]

Ah okay,idk i think silk arts sounds a lil better

[lapis maple]

No I don't?

[orchid gull]

Awakening at timestamp 1:31 and Enter Pharloom at timestamp 1:21

[night ruin]

Silk farts*

[gloomy hill]

Sure, totally

[ancient mortar]

Spells is easier to type out fast. though skills also works

[zealous elk]

what exactly is facetanking? you tank the boss and try to get as many hits in to heal before dealing more damage?

[warm brook]

🥲

[high sparrow]

Yeah exactly

[warm brook]

Yea

[night ruin]

Crying tears of joy because I uttered peak

[worldly lake]

[high sparrow]

Man..i miss playing silksong

[ancient mortar]

I type way too fast which is why i have so many typos

[zealous elk]

oh shit i was right

[lapis maple]

Me and Mehieddin7 were talking about which crests had the highest dps not how effective they were in game what do you mean "why not" bro

[icy crow]

Hollow Knight Community server members when they see someone not playing meta or playing their own specific way:

[warm brook]

quite literally yes

[keen solstice]

https://youtube.com/shorts/H6WBkSXYRTM?si=zXVyfeNeVMfzXyaj

[gloomy hill]

Ignore all attacks from and spam attack

[keen solstice]

Facetanking

[earnest drift]

but
wanderer doesn't have the highest dps

[icy crow]

Sir I think that's enough Beast Crest propaganda for today

[night ruin]

I’ll never forget the needolin vs dream nail discourse. Ban all sweat gamers

[gloomy hill]

Pretty sure he wants a beast nerf

[high sparrow]

What about the wicth crest, isnt that like a way better crest than the beast crest

[icy crow]

I agree aswell lol

[lapis maple]

I'm literally arguing that Wanderers has the highest dps and has mentioned that Reaper and Shaman are the second and first lowest dps respectively

[keen solstice]

The only crests better than beast are architect and shaman

[arctic epoch]

Witch is very very far away from Beast

[gloomy hill]

Uh no it’s not better but it is fun

[lapis maple]

it does.

[warm brook]

Preference tbh

[keen solstice]

But witch is very fun in comparison to beast which is braindead AS FUCK

[icy crow]

People be pissed off at Silksong's ""Dream Nail"" not giving any combat usage

[last dew]

it is factual that wanderer doesn't has the highest dps so your insistence on this statement is just sad

[lapis maple]

That's a personal opinion not a fact

[earnest drift]

it's beaten by architect, shaman, hunter, beast, witch

[keen solstice]

It's a fact

[icy crow]

He knows theorycrafting too much lmao

[night ruin]

I think needolin not having combat applications is a good thing actually

[lapis maple]

So you're ragebaiting.

[warm brook]

fully depends on your playstyle, def an opinion

[zealous elk]

i do that sometimes when i get sick of fighting a boss, but not really anymore. i try to follow tips and be more patient with the boss, taking my time and learning their attack pattern but SOMETIMES i will facetank if the boss has gone on for "too long"

[lapis maple]

Literally search up "what crest has the highest dps without buffs"

[gloomy hill]

Creative solutions that don’t throw away the point of something’s existence yes

[icy crow]

People just do be saying Wanderer is the fastest because it's a """Quick Slash"""

[ancient mortar]

hunters my favorite as its tech isnt too complicated but the moveset is very dynamic and smooth, and it rewards playing to get hit as little as possible which is what im always trying to do.

[opal pelican]

3

[keen solstice]

Architect has the highest output in the game followed by shaman
Then hunter and beast are tied depending on situation, then witch behind them, then wanderer, and reaper is at the bottom

[patent heath]

But it does have combat application.
Stppping the boss midfight for a second or two is huge.

[lapis maple]

No..

[earnest drift]

does beast really beat hunter in dps? i thought it had the same dps as hunter but only during fury, when sustained it's lower

[ancient mortar]

Hunters my goat discourages facetanking

[keen solstice]

Situation dependant

[night ruin]

They can throw away a boss’ moveset who gaf

[gloomy hill]

Only if you need a breather

[graceful oyster]

Me when my ego is so bloated that I project my consciousness into the body of a building-sized Eldritch horror destined to seal the demise of all sentient life (its body is mine now and I am a walking god) and I order it to draw a picture of a dog using a box of crayons

[worldly lake]

guess it's gonna be crest discourse for a while

[ancient mortar]

fury boosts the damage and the attack speed. also it can ignore blocks which flat buffs your dps against stuff like karm or lace.

[night ruin]

I bet tc watches vids of people melting bosses with joy and glee

[earnest drift]

but why are we excluding buffs when you stated that "wanderer has the highest dps"? inherently that doesn't exclude buffs

[keen solstice]

It's basically the same and depends on the situation, hunter tends to pull ahead though

[arctic epoch]

"My crest has the highest dps if you refuse to interact with the game mechanic"

[icy crow]

One day there will be a savior who will put #sk-discussion in order and eternal peace

[warm brook]

we js be arguing

[gloomy hill]

Fire

[night ruin]

Damn that sounds kinda fun actually

[ancient mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-silksong-ballow-ballow-hollow-knight-silksong-deep-docks-gif-12616407773477531319

[keen solstice]

Lace can still parry beast THANKFULLY

[graceful oyster]

100% possible in Caves of Qud™

[gloomy hill]

Next thing I know chat’s gonna be advocating for something to oneshot everything

[icy crow]

Everyone here should be sentenced to do The Perfect Run in Galaxy 2 actually

[keen solstice]

Karmelita and Seth are utterly fucked though

[warm brook]

What if no

[earnest drift]

did ai cook or nah

[zealous elk]

ballow mentioned !!!!! i love ballow he's so cool

[icy crow]

What if yes

[warm brook]

Yesn’t

[keen solstice]

That's very old

[icy crow]

(it's actually easy after like the 3rd attempt)

[high sparrow]

So like um,what do yall like beside silksong?

[tight viper]

Licorice

[keen solstice]

Pretty sure it uses the reddit post that exists since the game released

[patent heath]

Do not trust AI.
Rusty has made a video on this topic, you can just watch that.

[opal pelican]

did someone say ego

[keen solstice]

Which doesn't have updated hunter numbers

[worldly lake]

ballow is the goat

[earnest drift]

rusty's stuff is outdated too i think

[graceful oyster]

I did

[keen solstice]

Isn't rusty the same guy who ranked pollip as 3rd best blue tool

[last dew]

mine changes it's answer whenever i refresh the page so maybe not

[opal pelican]

lace using ai #TheUsualSuspects

[high sparrow]

You have good taste my friend

[icy crow]

You should play Phoenotopia: Awakening and rate it 1-10

[night ruin]

Idk why this name sounds familiar

[gloomy hill]

Maybe

[patent heath]

I know Shaman's is. I don't remember the rest.

[zealous elk]

silksong should be higher imo but that's your opinion

[gloomy hill]

Someone not calling it ragebait

[patent heath]

That was before people realised it doesn't stack.

[graceful oyster]

Is it because I advocate for it every other day?

[opal pelican]

one huge sneak here and its portal 2

[high sparrow]

Did someone say that before?

[earnest drift]

i remember when he made two videos, one saying architect crest was the best (next day it got nerfed) and one saying thread storm was the best (next day it got nerfed)

[icy crow]

Half-Life 3 looks crazy

[opal pelican]

game is literally just aight

[gloomy hill]

Uh no, I was actually thinking about moving it lower

[patent heath]

Hey, I don't call it ragebait either. I just say you have terrible taste.

[zealous elk]

GOODDDD DAMN BRO is it that bad

[viscid thistle]

I js beat goth throbbio

[fiery burrow]

E33 portal 2 level ngl

[opal pelican]

bad ragebait lowkey

[warm brook]

who is this man

[night ruin]

Possible. My brain is made of oatmeal

[fiery burrow]

So is Ultrakill ig

[earnest drift]

ai is cooked actually nvm

[fiery burrow]

Maybe idk its story isn't finished

[gloomy hill]

I didn’t like Silksong and i am gonna die on the hill that TC fell off after god master

[keen solstice]

Can we gaslight him into doing one saying beast is best next so team cherry nerfs it

[fiery burrow]

after hidden dreams*

[graceful oyster]

How american

[high sparrow]

Anyways games i played
are last of us 2,marvel rivals,silksong, lies of p, ggst, i think played last of us 1 oh and rachet and clank

[icy crow]

Ultrakill will reach its final update in 2043

[opal pelican]

what did they put in portal 2 for yall to be calling it game of the century its just an ok puzzle game 😭

[night ruin]

I’m not following

[patent heath]

TC fell off when they made Godmaster.
Surely @fiery burrow agrees.

[gloomy hill]

It’s simply good at being fun

[fiery burrow]

I mean yeah its just a really solid puzzle game that also happens to be funny asf and has good vibes all around

[graceful oyster]

Oatmeal is a very American thing

[keen solstice]

What if ultrakill

But jet

[zealous elk]

ahhaaaa mmhmhmmmm i've caught on to youuu this is ragebait your words are bouncing off my ears i have my silksong anti-slander earpods in

[fiery burrow]

yes 🗣️

[night ruin]

Really? Had no idea.

[fiery burrow]

I'm following

[opal pelican]

lotta games are fun

[high sparrow]

Oh and sf6

[warm brook]

I mean sure

[high sparrow]

.

[night ruin]

I thought oatmeal was from Asia

[keen solstice]

https://youtu.be/Z5dYcRvxF7k?si=2bnCae_sdNxMKpIy

[graceful oyster]

Not everything is from Asia people

[gloomy hill]

Uh no, I feel like most people calling this ragebait are just in denial that someone can dislike Silksong

[warm brook]

THAT GAME LOOKS FUCKING WICKED

[fiery burrow]

oh ace combat sick

[opal pelican]

considering youve been talking in the silksong chat for like an hour im inclined to believe its ragebait

[earnest drift]

silksong is better than hollow knight at least

[keen solstice]

Ace combat

But devil may fly

[fiery burrow]

Looks great

[graceful oyster]

Mio is better than Silksong

[fiery burrow]

Art direction is lacking though 😔

[icy crow]

Waiting for a good Steam sales event so I can buy it

[night ruin]

Oatmeal, derived from the seeds of oat grass (Avena sativa), originated in Western Asia and Eastern Europe, with evidence of consumption dating back 32,000 years. It was cultivated as early as 11,000 years ago in the Jordan Valley. Today, major production occurs in cool, temperate climates like Canada, the U.S., and Scotland.

[icy crow]

Literally near 100 BRL right now for me

[keen solstice]

https://youtu.be/xxgeBZfhAhs?si=lBizIeRZmr5TUr3-

[lapis maple]

we already stated that we were excluding buff before you hopped into the argument for whatever reason

[graceful oyster]

Sure, everyone everywhere can grow something as simple as oats. It's an American thing because we popularized it

[fiery burrow]

this guy knows the two best franchises ❤️‍🩹

[keen solstice]

@fiery burrow look at 0:35

[patent heath]

Okay, can we like, stop using DPS as the sole deciding factor for which Crest is the best?

[fiery burrow]

yeah I really dig this

[lapis maple]

ACE COMBAT MENTIONED??????

[icy crow]

I think giving anyone who argues crests a permanent mute is better

[opal pelican]

impossible considering the fandom

[near mirage]

do you think stuff from the OG game like The Grimm Troupe, Zote and the Godmasters/Godhome will return in Silksong in anyway?

[night ruin]

Society of Silksong fans quit being slaves to dps:

[lapis maple]

we weren't idk if they were but I wasn't

[graceful oyster]

I got this factoid from one of my coworkers who lived in Japan for most of her life so she isn't making it up

[patent heath]

The mythical quadruple snail.

[icy crow]

Make it quintuple

[opal pelican]

give em 5 years after content dries up to reach the peak of their ego and then 2 more years to mellow out

[night ruin]

I believe you, I just didn’t know

[earnest drift]

but why

[lapis maple]

wait chat what's the game

[lapis maple]

no.

[patent heath]

The [insert adjective here] quintuple snail.

[high sparrow]

I dont play a lot of indie games,the last time indie game i played was silksong and i think blasmephous

Yeah those two

[last dew]

blue prince is good

[keen solstice]

Delivery must complete(url name DevilMayFly)
Still not released

[zealous elk]

exactly! all crests can output good damage if you're comfortable with that crest enough

[near mirage]

id find it cool if the grimm troupe returned, the Grimm being the one that the knight raised now leading it(saying that it didnt banish the troupe and it didnt get destroyed when godhome got consumed by void, saying Embrace the Void is canon)

[night ruin]

Play Hades 2 if you want your bank account to miraculously overflow with gold doubloons

[rose flax]

i suddenly realized the meaning behind lace's words after her second fight and now i feel bad for her

[lapis maple]

betbet thanks

[patent heath]

Yesh.

[night ruin]

Does anyone remember the command to view a persons’ pfp?

[sour summit]

No no no but you don't understand, if you're not running Hunter Crest with Barbed Bracelet and spamming Flea Brew/ Flintslate while taking no damage then you're playing Silksong suboptimally and are using a terrible Crest and play style

[zealous elk]

wait i forgot what she said what'd she say after her second fight?

[fiery burrow]

Interesting that its a roguelike

[lapis maple]

Embrace the Void or Dream No More have to be canon for ||Silksong's true ending||

[fiery burrow]

Could be really solid

[patent heath]

That's true.

[rose flax]

i dont remember exactly, but it felt like a shitton of self-loathing behavor

[zealous elk]

awww shiet

[rose flax]

also i aint ever heard her voice get that serious 😭

[earnest drift]

what gives witch better dps than wanderer again i forgot

[lapis maple]

😭

[icy crow]

It's "av" or something

[near mirage]

oh right forgot about act 3

[old raft]

why is lugoli a nightmare

[night ruin]

Cause that big ol butt visits you in your sleep

[rose flax]

i want to hug lace now

[vivid raptor]

Just use the Drill, instant one shot

[keen solstice]

Dash attack clawline gives it similar needle DPS
It also has 2 red slots, it's bind, and the synergy with sawtooth

[opal pelican]

nah

[rose flax]

i might get fucking parried if i try

[lapis maple]

assjim

[near mirage]

🤨

[night ruin]

So real. I love lace sm. My little traumatized serial killer.

[high sparrow]

Hades 2 doesnt seem that interesting

[lapis maple]

yea have you beat act 3??

[old raft]

bro i feel like lugoli is like zote

[high sparrow]

Althougth i do want to try tjat one game with the cat

[near mirage]

but BETTER 🤤 (and worse)

[vivid raptor]

"My Little Traumatised Serial Killer"

[opal pelican]

yeah i have

[old raft]

that the ONE BOSS THAT I ABSOLUTELY DONT WANNA SEE IN PANTHEON

[night ruin]

Don’t knock it til you try it

[rose flax]

so apparently i cant want to comfort a character who seems to strongly dislike their own existence without it being weird 💔

[night ruin]

I said what I said

[near mirage]

Oh

I havent fought lace 2 yet so I didnt know the context mb gng

[lapis maple]

then you should know tht in whatever endings the Knight beats the Radiance have to be canon for Act 3's ending to work

[old raft]

i have counteless time entering broodmother with like 4hp with muggots

[vivid raptor]

It's definitely going to be in P4 since it's a late game boss

[zealous elk]

godddddd i just need one more memento.. wait does getting all mementos count towards a percentage

[icy crow]

Pantheon of the Weavers

[opal pelican]

just gotta expand your mind

[near mirage]

shade lord final boss of P5

[kind gorge]

what the hell do i do with my life now i beat the game

[near mirage]

(they did ascend to pantheons peak afterall)

[vivid raptor]

They don't but are annoying to forget about

[rose flax]

welp atleast lace wasnt born a vessel

[high sparrow]

Anyways uhhhhh

[opal pelican]

team cherry said all endings are canon so they are 🥱

[old raft]

its so damn annoying

[near mirage]

yeah 😭 🙏

[vivid raptor]

Path of Pain + Courier's Rasher

[near mirage]

that was 8 years ago and there is NO way sealed siblings is canon

[opal pelican]

just gotta expand your mind

[night ruin]

I do feel that lace is supposed to be a foil to Ghost

[rose flax]

hornet escaped, trust 👍

[opal pelican]

really think about it

[high sparrow]

To be fair whats worse living in the universe of hollow knigth or living in the universe of blapmehous

[civic phoenix]

Just recently beat willow is that peak??

[vague holly]

glass soul

[opal pelican]

if it doesnt make sense yet

[near mirage]

[vivid raptor]

Omg Willow the secret boss

[high sparrow]

She escaped by breaking a breakable wall

[rose flax]

the fact that theyre kinda both somewhat like artificial life does make that likely

[civic phoenix]

Wha

[vivid raptor]

Hardest boss omg

[zealous elk]

oh well doesn't matter i'm a stupid little completionist so i'm gonna get that flea memento

[opal pelican]

think harder

[civic phoenix]

Ohhhh

[old raft]

pantheon of pharloom with the meat thing

[icy crow]

Is Flea Memento coming back this DLC

[opal pelican]

THEYRE PARALLELS

[vivid raptor]

Probably not

[night ruin]

An artificial zombie vs an artificial angel

[zealous elk]

IT'S RIGHT BEFORE MY EYES. AIIGHUGUHUGH I NEED IT. I NEED ITT.. AURHAHRAHURHAHRAJHRJHRAHRHRGF

[night ruin]

You get it

[high sparrow]

Why dont gif work in this server

[night ruin]

Embed fail. Mods take the cartilage out of his left knee

[icy crow]

#server-announcements

[last dew]

?tag permpsa

[white sail]

Why can't I access VC / Post Images?

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⚠️ Artificially increasing message count is considered spam.

[vivid raptor]

Haha, do you mean the Guardian's Memento? Where you beat Seth in every Flea Mini-game?

[zealous elk]

SHSHSHJSJSJSJSJAIJAHHAJHKJGFMFGMMMVMFMVMFMVFMFVMVFMVF

[icy crow]

Mega Man X8 is so peak...

[opal pelican]

pk this they

[vivid raptor]

?

[zealous elk]

i only have two more minigames to beat seth in... how the fuck am i gonna do juggle

[icy crow]

Use Shaman and lock in

[high sparrow]

Are you serious?

[vivid raptor]

Yes

[vague holly]

shaman best trust

shaman go swoosh and the flea go up

[opal pelican]

AH HELL YEAH PIANO MAN

[zealous elk]

alright bro. i'm gonna go lock in

[worldly lake]

how do i check message count

[opal pelican]

why didnt they get billy joel to work on the silksong ost

[vague holly]

top left, search your name with the from: thingy

[high sparrow]

Who?

[opal pelican]

i need you gone

[lavish spruce]

I feel like im missing something I've gotten zero building bellhart wishes on the wish board

[zealous elk]

GOD i'm an achievement magnet

[opal pelican]

erased

obliterated

[lavish spruce]

Peak anime

[opal pelican]

removed from the history books

[lost quartz]

have you talked to pavo?

[worldly lake]

oh i have the perms

[opaque sigil]

iirc you need to upgrade your needle have you done that

[opal pelican]

no trace of you will remain in this universe when i am done with you

[vague holly]

guys

[vivid raptor]

This but with the first HK

[lavish spruce]

I have hivesteel😭

[vague holly]

whats the best crest

[lavish spruce]

...

[opal pelican]

SHUT UP

[potent wren]

Cilantro

[lavish spruce]

Depends on playstyle

[icy crow]

What are you aiming for?

[worldly lake]

i thought they were counting messages SINCE the announcement

[lavish spruce]

Act 3

[vague holly]

no its tomato

[icy crow]

Did you do Shakra's wish?

[lavish spruce]

Yeah

[icy crow]

Defeated Lace in the Cradle?

[opal pelican]

DO YOU HAVE WINGS

[lavish spruce]

Yeah

[lost quartz]

Saving sherma?

[lavish spruce]

Yeah

[icy crow]

Got enough wish points?

[lavish spruce]

No

[icy crow]

Basically do a lot of wishes

[opal pelican]

DID YOU KILL THE GLEEBSTER

[lavish spruce]

I haven't gotten that one either weirdly

[icy crow]

[[Silk & Soul]]

[mental swallow]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Silk_&_Soul?action=edit&redlink=1

[vague holly]

get the fleas

[icy crow]

Oh what the link is broken smh

[icy crow]

You have to visit Whiteward then go back to Songclave

[vague holly]

no no u need role

[lavish spruce]

I'm saving that for when I buy everything cause I just buy spots

[vague holly]

yeah

[icy crow]

Me when I already have both image and voice permissions

[lavish spruce]

Do you have link perms

[icy crow]

Yeah

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-wait-gif-16738817422562026279

[vague holly]

no no you need role ]:

[icy crow]

You can find a list of requirements in the wish page

Check if you're missing one out

[split parcel]

@slim wedge hi

[vague holly]

doesnt act 3 require do all quests

[icy crow]

Nope, just enough points

[lavish spruce]

Ik i need 22 wish points, I like doing all of them before entering act 3 though

[icy crow]

Some wishes are mandatory however

[vague holly]

how do u know how many ponts you has

[icy crow]

Did you move the Caravan to Pale Lake?

[lavish spruce]

Not yet

[icy crow]

That's why

[lavish spruce]

I lowk get point number and flea number mixed up

[opal pelican]

they should get frank sinatra to work on the sea of sorrow ost

[lavish spruce]

Frank ocean

[icy crow]

Michael Jackson doing the Voltlands OST

[opal pelican]

completely other guy

[vague holly]

does beating lost lace without and tools or spells give you dopamine

[lavish spruce]

AC/DC??

[lavish spruce]

Ik

[opal pelican]

is frank sinatra lost medias

[icy crow]

Uhh what

[icy crow]

The humble Wikipedia:

[lavish spruce]

voltlands

[opal pelican]

you missed the ball

dont know ball

[icy crow]

It's an inside joke of my own where this DLC will supposedly add a volt themed area

This DLC will bring more than Pharloom Bay so

[lavish spruce]

I get that but like, not using AC/DC is just a total miss

[opal pelican]

i think a solo inside joke is just schizophrenia

that doesnt even make sense

dont mind me

[icy crow]

AC/DC should make the entirety of the Zoteboat OST

[icy crow]

I'm not schizophrenic

[lavish spruce]

What did I do😭

I just said im also schizophrenic

[opal pelican]

AC/DC more like uh LA/ME

ive never listened to them

[lavish spruce]

Missing out

[icy crow]

Get Capital Inicial to make the Sprout Gardens area theme

[lavish spruce]

Get Beethoven to make the act 0 theme

[opal pelican]

what genre are they

[icy crow]

Beethoven will make the boss tracks of Zoteboat. They will be peak

[lavish spruce]

Some sort of rock idk the specific genre

[opal pelican]

erm doesnt sound like its from a video game, not listening :/

[lavish spruce]

We cannot be serious💔

[opal pelican]

youre right

[icy crow]

Fighting Stalkspear Dorrhen will have that fine violin playing

[opal pelican]

only like 20% of my playlist is game music

[lavish spruce]

Oh my god flea hunting is terrible without a filled out map😭

[icy crow]

Fleas appear out naturally man lol

If anything buy the maps from Vog, they're hella cheap

[opal pelican]

ive never had trouble with fleas

[opaque sigil]

flea hunting is annoying but not even the worst part of them

[opal pelican]

like aslong as you explore youll only miss like the far fields one and vaults one

[lavish spruce]

I did I did, I'm just waiting for purple quill so I have no map

[opal pelican]

based

[lavish spruce]

Underworks wisp thicket entrance flea:

[icy crow]

You can go straight to it some minutes after you start act three iirc

By the way you can get all fleas in act two

[lavish spruce]

Ik

[opal pelican]

glaceon

[lavish spruce]

3rd best eevee

[opal pelican]

not even top 10

[lavish spruce]

Umbreon and sylveon overtake

[icy crow]

Wonder when I'll fight the Phalanx

[lavish spruce]

That's hk not silksong

[opal pelican]

basic ass answers but unfortunately theyre literally my exact answers too

sometimes things are popular because theyre good

[lavish spruce]

Leafeon is easy hm

[icy crow]

Phalanx isn't from both

[night ruin]

Hot take but Fleas > Grubs no contest

[icy crow]

I like both equally

[lavish spruce]

Watcher knights bro watcher knights

[jolly bridge]

I mean…
Both are good, no ?

[ancient mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-freezing-cold-shivering-glace-gif-4206910866563313498

[opal pelican]

"5 star meal is better than 4 star meal"

[ancient mortar]

This is the coldest take

[night ruin]

I’m glad we can agree at least

Or disagree?

[sour summit]

I like the grubs more

[ancient mortar]

also isat fan spotted

[opal pelican]

ok i really need to go byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[night ruin]

Hard to tell.

[opal pelican]

theres a lot of them here

[icy crow]

Watcher Knights? More like Forebrothers

[ancient mortar]

im one of em lol

[night ruin]

Four brothers? Jeez I hope mom drives a sedan

[ancient mortar]

its a good game

[opal pelican]

ok fr now BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[lavish spruce]

Forebrothers only has 2, not nearly enough for a phalinx

[icy crow]

Forebrothers? More like Ornstein and Smough

[cobalt pilot]

Hi chat is it better in here again

[icy crow]

More quiet than #hk-discussion

[lapis maple]

what's going on in hollow knight discussion?

[modest furnace]

Ayy I'm here

That's awesome sauce

[zenith flare]

thats a great question

[lapis maple]

I visited

it's definitely going

[patent heath]

@cobalt pilot

[zealous elk]

OH MY GOD I LITERALLY GOT 50 WITH SHAMAN CREST THIS IS SUCH A HUGE BUFF. I GENUINELY NEEDED ONLY 6 FLEAS MORE IN THAT MOMENT TO BEAT SETH.

[lapis maple]

To unlock this do you have to get all the flees?

[patent heath]

Yes.

[lapis maple]

sigh

I don't want to go back to the "Bilelands"

or Mount Fay

actually Mount Fay is fine for the most part

[zenith flare]

mount fay is so fun wdym

[jolly bridge]

It becomes fun after getting faydown

[lapis maple]

yes

[jolly bridge]

Because then it’s more barable

[zenith flare]

even without faydown its still fun

but yeah i get where youre coming from

[lapis maple]

The only reason I don't see going backwards as bad anymore is because I don't have to

[jolly bridge]

Tbh I don’t like when things are timed

[lapis maple]

I died trying to leave mount fay the first time

[kind gorge]

although lost lace is a difficult fight, the heal windows are very forgiving

[kind gorge]

u can practically heal after every missed move

[icy crow]

I usually just do a free drop all the way down lol

[lapis maple]

nah I lowkey had to get as high as possible to heal

[spark anchor]

There are 3 fleas total in sinner’s road and bilewater

[lapis maple]

I didn't even think about doing that and went down the left side

[lapis maple]

Doesn't make me want to go there any more than I did before :(

[kind gorge]

bro if shes misses one of her moves its a free heal the window is fairly long even without iniector band

[lapis maple]

must've just been me then (I beat her for the first time earlier)

plus i was using multibinder

[kind gorge]

same now i feel empty

[lapis maple]

The ending was awesome and so worth it tho

[kind gorge]

sekiro has been a sitting duck in my libary maybe ill finally play that

[graceful oyster]

There's no boss healing in MIO
(Good thing)

[rose flax]

i havent beat SK yet, but it'd lowkey be cool if you could travel back to hallownest ingame

[kind gorge]

real asl

[ancient mortar]

Its incredible, but very difficult. highly reccomend if you like a challenge.

[jagged socket]

recently moved into a new school and i kid you not- i hear in the middle of my year about my old school going into lockdown because of a kid who brought a gun. whyd they have to route all of the bad behavior kids to that school specifically

[lavish spruce]

A school by mine went into lockdown during a protest cause a crackhead had a gun and was swinging on students

[kind gorge]

what abt story how good is it. ik gameplay wise it highly rated and someone people say its that hardest souls game

[jagged socket]

kindergarteners and alternative school teenagers are not a good mix

[cerulean obsidian]

the new vc requirements suck

[zenith flare]

there are new vc requirements?

i left the server for like a week, how much changed?

[lavish spruce]

I think my school is doing protests all week its actually nice

[jagged socket]

i get a free 9-day break because of all the snow rn

i might go on friday but then theres the weekend

[near mirage]

Hollow Knight

[dry crater]

yo! Just got the 3rd melody, is there anything i should do before act 3? ||found shakras master, i have a cogheart which idk what to do with, killed the first sinner 10 minutes ago, i have the seekers soul (idk what to do with it), i have the ruined tool, and im pretty sure i missed like 2 different paths in wormways toward the bottom||

[opaque sigil]

the story is decent

[jagged socket]

hmm do you ever think the knight is.. hungry? like a hungry knight?

[dry crater]

hangry knight

[opaque sigil]

you might wanna finish up the wormways stuff

[ancient mortar]

Story is very good, takes a lot of themes from the mythology in japan but does its own thing with it.

[dry crater]

gotchu

[near mirage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003935536211296277/1457489652205224077/gonesherma-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[jagged socket]

whyd you eat them 🙁

[lavish spruce]

Comical but the vessels have no organs or need for nutrients whatsoever

[green jungle]

bro they put all their budget on lace 2

[dawn leaf]

missable friendly duels vs shakra and garmond+zaza
missable roach guts materium entry

[jolly bridge]

#server-announcements
Go up alittle

[jagged socket]

the freaking FLASH GAME-

[ancient mortar]

Its sad that i can read a message like this and instantly know it happened in america.

[jagged socket]

yep

no one was hurt tho

[zenith flare]

i see

[dry crater]

where the guts at twin

[lavish spruce]

That knight too, their only hunger is an insatiable bloodlust

[jagged socket]

they found the gun in the kids backpack before anything happened

[dawn leaf]

speak with benji and crull in sinner's road

[dry crater]

Already got that

[lapis maple]

uh guys

[dry crater]

I believe

[lapis maple]

@dry crater don't look at the spoiler message i'm about to send

[jagged socket]

its weird how silksong can go from a mukbang quest to emo garmond in a instant

[dawn leaf]

if you have the tacks red tool then you also have roach guts materium entry

[dry crater]

Thir yeth thir

[lapis maple]

||I think they think that going up the elevator during Act 2 starts Act 3.||

[jagged socket]

no

[dry crater]

I got all the melodies twin

figured that was it, maybe a boss

[lapis maple]

There's 2 bosses after that

[dry crater]

easy peasy

[jagged socket]

i'd say you should probably check around a bit more before doing act 3

[lapis maple]

and then you'd have "beat the game"

[jagged socket]

the enemies get wayy tougher in act 3 and the whole game gets a bit depressing

[lapis maple]

but it doesn't start act 3

[orchid locust]

hello

[dry crater]

no boss has taken me as many tries as any Hk boss and im thankful for that

[jagged socket]

pantheon 5 was painful

[lapis maple]

have you completed all the wishes (excluding courier quests)

[dry crater]

god bro 😭 i still have one binding left

need to go back one day

[ripe geyser]

The wraiths are annoying

[dry crater]

i have the great taste of pharloom wish to complete, i need to kill a savage beast fly and the wailing mother

Ive heard smth about an alchemy quest but idk what thats about

[rose flax]

i cannot imagine silk runes in a 3d plane at all

it feels like they would be paper thin and very easy to dodge

everything else i could easily imagine in 3d still being a threat

[dry crater]

If theyre paper thin

Theyre not really 3d huh

[rose flax]

that’s my point

i can’t imagine them in a 3d plane

[jolly bridge]

Spherical

[dry crater]

idk what your talkin about off the top of my head gimmie a screenie

Oh wait the rune rage?

[rose flax]

i considered that but it feels wrong

[dry crater]

spherical seems most likely twin

[jolly bridge]

Maybe like a….
Thinner sphere ?

[cobalt pilot]

Who pinged me

[rose flax]

how do you make those flat runes spherical, it feels like trying to turn the earth into a perfectly accurate map

[cobalt pilot]

@patent heath

[ripe geyser]

Trying to take the sinners road mist route at 1 silk without weaverlight is annoying.

[rose flax]

i still don’t have the mist map

[graceful oyster]

[dry crater]

The mist was so fucking annoying😭😭

[rose flax]

can’t find that shit at all

just beat lace 2 and still aint found the mist map

[dawn leaf]

that's cause it doesn't exist

[dry crater]

Whoever designed an area that isnt physically linear is cool asl tho

[dawn leaf]

place is a shifting maze that never lines up with itself

[rose flax]

pardon?

the mist DOESNT HAVE A MAP???

[dawn leaf]

ain't no mist map yep

[dry crater]

it does not sir

[rose flax]

yeah i’m never stepping foot in that place

no thanks

[dry crater]

Just turns into exhaust organ /a little red room on sinners road map

[ripe geyser]

Procedural follow the silkflies, they fly towards exits when you needolin.

[dawn leaf]

it's cool as hell atmospherically tho
an excellent buildup to an excellent boss
the environmental storytelling is strong with this entire sequence

[ripe geyser]

Organ music getting louder is an indication of going the correct way.

[rose flax]

is whiteward just soul sanctum but even more dark

[dry crater]

Phantom was cool asl

reminded me of lost kin

[dawn leaf]

their soundtrack slaps

lost kin is pretty cool as well

[dry crater]

holy hell tho whoever made the spit squits needs to burn

[dry crater]

Onggg

[lapis maple]

Phantom is just badass in general

[dry crater]

who else gettin cracked by phantom

[ripe geyser]

You can add enviormnetal hazard type enemies to your journal with pimpillo.

[dry crater]

🙋‍♂️

[lapis maple]

finish those if new quests pop up do them when there are no more talk to the dude that runs songclave

[rocky jolt]

can someone add a flea over this

[knotty osprey]

well theres only so many people to blame

[ripe geyser]

Wraiths can only be hit by pogo.

[dry crater]

easy to find em then

Pinpoint the exact man with the neurons that created the spit squit and the paspid

[knotty osprey]

well

[lapis maple]

"just some bullshit with fur" LMAO

[knotty osprey]

it was either ari or william

[rose flax]

THERE ARE ASPIDS IN SK??

[knotty osprey]

probably ari

[rose flax]

i’m scared as fuck

[dry crater]

aspid like creatures

Imagine a primal aspid on crack and meth imo

[lapis maple]

purple air

[ancient mortar]

Should i add hollow knight character icons over the commenters

[rocky jolt]

yes

[rose flax]

make them all higher beings

[dry crater]

Woah whats with the lifeblood ball??

[lapis maple]

?

[dry crater]

over at wormways

[dawn leaf]

speak with wormways npc

[lapis maple]

i need to finish exploring wormways

[dry crater]

i didnt know there was one🥲

[ripe geyser]

The prodcedural rooms do have a set outline for the sinners road to exhaust organ route it’s in the OGM app.

[lapis maple]

i wish I could fight Phantom again

[ripe geyser]

https://apps.apple.com/app/id6752319880

[jolly bridge]

-# Arnt there websites for that ?

[lapis maple]

?

[ancient mortar]

Ok this is as much effort as im putting into this

[arctic epoch]

Wanderer suckass

[lapis maple]

Don't even joke lad

WHAT was the point of saying this

[patent cosmos]

I just read the most amazing bit of fanfic ever

[patent heath]

Another Crest discourse.

[jolly bridge]

Get the chat active again
-# or some shit idk

[dry crater]

I actually just got that crest

[opaque sigil]

active is the worst thing this chat can be

[dry crater]

what it do

[patent cosmos]

It’s the sweetest most tooth rotting piece of fluff ever and I love it so much

[ripe geyser]

So not only do you need to navigate the mist (which its existence is temporary) but you must kill 7 wraiths which are impervious to everything but pogo not leave the hunter’s journal incomplete.

[opaque sigil]

basically the appeal of wanderer crest is a very high attack speed

[patent cosmos]

Who wants to read it

[opaque sigil]

it doesn't do much else

[lapis maple]

it attacks fastest and has a chance to do a really good critical damage

[steep acorn]

hello skongers

[dry crater]

The range is so fucking short

Holy shit

[ripe geyser]

Get long claw

[jolly bridge]

Pretty much just imagine playing hk in silksong

[opaque sigil]

it's not quite as short as it looks

[lapis maple]

it has the same hitbox as hunters crest

[dry crater]

Already copped

[lapis maple]

it just appears shorter

[patent heath]

Why does it have so many yellows, though?

[dry crater]

Oo ty saxxy

[lapis maple]

that's it's thing

[opaque sigil]

for wandering, they're the like miscellaneous qol things

[lapis maple]

it's a movement crest

[fossil pecan]

PLATINUM

[steep acorn]

i hate the wanderers crest dash attack

[lapis maple]

meant for players who tend to move around a lot

[fossil pecan]

3hr 38 mins for Speedrun

[steep acorn]

that's why i use reapers most of the time

[lapis maple]

whattt

[fossil pecan]

Steel heart and speed completion in one run together

[old raft]

it literally has no dash attack

[opaque sigil]

wanderer dash attack is a bit easy to miss and accidentally run into an enemy with but it's fun when you land it

[ripe geyser]

I still haven’t beaten the first savage beastfly.

[ancient mortar]

title?

[steep acorn]

i'm still stuck at sister splinter

[patent cosmos]

https://archiveofourown.org/works/77160576

Just gonna share the link

[wicked mason]

A

Oh hey the chat isn't lagging

What do u guys think of CheesyNoodles

[ancient mortar]

is that the name of a thing or literally like noodles with cheese

[opaque sigil]

it does have one, the swings don't interrupt your sprint but if you land a hit it bounces you back and you can then do a diagonal attack similar to a hunter pogo if you follow up, I don't think it's that practical but it's pretty cool

[worldly lake]

AGHSDFHSDFH

[jolly bridge]

Nvm

[worldly lake]

I FUMBLED AT COGWORK DANCERS FINAL PHASE

[lapis maple]

Wanderers Crest is soooo fun once you get used to it

[wicked mason]

Name of a person on yt, if you like phantom you should check it out

[lapis maple]

Sometimes I just start doing stuff

[wicked mason]

Cheesy noodles :)

[jolly bridge]

Oh god dam-

[lapis maple]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[dry crater]

Ive got hunter, reaper, wanderer, architect and beast, are there more?

[ripe geyser]

She’s skippable if you have drifters cloak so you can go and get cling grip come back and evicerate her with +1 needle, wannderer crest, thread storm, and flint slate.

[worldly lake]

that's 7 minutes i'll never get back goddammit

i'm so mad at myself

[wicked mason]

Yeah you'll lose more of your life soon so don't get too mad

[lapis maple]

2 more one you can get now the other you can't

[dry crater]

Wheres the one i can snag now at?

[ripe geyser]

Also do the first loddies game to get an upgrade.

[lapis maple]

it's a long story

[lapis maple]

you did the pollip heart quest right

[dry crater]

Yeah

[worldly lake]

you know what

i'm gonna do a tiiiiiny reload to the start of act 2

[lapis maple]

theres a secret wall somewhere on the right side of the Forums I believe

go through it until you reach this huge pit but be careful going down it

I think you'll be pissed at where you end up but

[dry crater]

ill keep that in mind

[jolly bridge]

That pit is in the vaults iirc

[ripe geyser]

Don’t touch the rite of rebirth quest till act 3 so you can circumvent paying for the thing you need to get the curse removed.

[lime ermine]

PEAK BOSS BUT NOOO

[dry crater]

Fucking bilewater

[lime ermine]

i enjoy bilewater

[dry crater]

Die then

[jolly bridge]

-# yeeeeeaaaah…..

[lapis maple]

yes

[lime ermine]

bilewater is very enjoyable

[ripe geyser]

Because the seller will be dead and you can just take the things

[worldly lake]

it hurts especially hard on a speedrun

[lapis maple]

FUCK BILEWATER

[lime ermine]

i had much joy in bilewater

[wicked mason]

Hot take:
Cogwork dancers ost is awesome, but the gameplay is boring

[dry crater]

ALL MY HOMIES HATE BILEWATER

[worldly lake]

i just reset to the start of act 2

[lapis maple]

once you get the item go back to the lady you gave the pollip hearts to

[lime ermine]

do you guys enjoy bilewater?

[feral basin]

https://tenor.com/view/flea-silksong-hollow-knight-animation-spin-gif-11202827404216638432

[worldly lake]

that was just a terrible terrible fumble

[dry crater]

Wait so i gotta go to vaults right

[lapis maple]

yeah

[lime ermine]

i enjoy bilewater

[dry crater]

Alright

[jolly bridge]

Well…
Yeah, the entire area is just fuckin
parkor

[lapis maple]

we know bilewater enjoyer we know...

[quartz ravine]

i enjoy bilewater as well

[wicked mason]

What are you talking about mate 🧐

[quartz ravine]

omg a flea successor

[lime ermine]

the ost is on my playlist and imo the gameplay isnt boring like nyleth or smth

[lapis maple]

I enjoyed the fight it kind of reminded me of Mantis Lords (My favorite HK boss)

[dry crater]

Wait ive already been to that pit

So did i just miss the crest?

[wicked mason]

Mantis Lords is better tbh it's more intense and stuff

[feral basin]

https://tenor.com/view/flea-silksong-hollow-knight-pet-silly-gif-16745288499569976714

[earnest drift]

cogwork dancers are better than mantis lords

[jolly bridge]

Tbh I misread that
I thought you were talking about Cogwork Core

[lime ermine]

bilewater is very enjoyable

[lapis maple]

IMAGINE MANTIS LORDS BUT IT'S ALL 4 (traitor lord before traitor) AND THEY'RE ALL IN THEIR PRIMES

[wicked mason]

Your opinion

[dry crater]

[wicked mason]

Nah cogwork core is.. I dunno

[ripe geyser]

Ah embrace stilkin tactics to cheese the Groal fight have you, bilewater enjoyer?

[lapis maple]

Nyleth was super light too

[lime ermine]

if thats sisters of battle then i beg to differ

[lime ermine]

boring ang light

just like any non bilewater enjoyer

[jolly bridge]

-# I would have liked it more if it wasn’t strictly parkor

[lapis maple]

I thought I was in for something hard Nyleth was the last of the three I fought

[lime ermine]

i enjoy bilewater

[quartz ravine]

i used to be the server flea but the jojolion was too powerful and i became josuke

[dry crater]

Is that all you fucking say

[lapis maple]

tho ig that's because Seth (MY GOOAT) was there

[lime ermine]

after seth nyleth made me hate everything bc of how bad it was

[lime ermine]

no i just enjoy bilewater

[lapis maple]

lmaoo

[feral basin]

Rest in peace my fellow Awooer

[lime ermine]

seth was horrible

[wicked mason]

I guess cogwork core, sands of karak, and mount fay are quite the same

[lime ermine]

unlike bilewater

[wicked mason]

And that's a fact

[lapis maple]

nononono

[ripe geyser]

Official p5 equivalent gonna make us fight nyleth and sister splinter simultaneously probably.

[quartz ravine]

awoo

[lime ermine]

just like the fact that bilewater is enjoyable

[lapis maple]

no

[wicked mason]

No I'm not gonna agree with that

[lime ermine]

yes

[lime ermine]

why not?

i enjoy bilewater

[wicked mason]

I don't like bilewater

[night ruin]

Silksong needs a five nights at Freddy’s crossover fr

[lapis maple]

Do you know the story behind Seth?

[wicked mason]

Where did you get that

[warped cloak]

i love this game but i hate this game

[lime ermine]

yup i do which is why im careful about what i say about him AS A BOSS

[night ruin]

Angels whisper things to me when I turn the lights off.

[wicked mason]

We're talking about the gameplay mate

[raven summit]

Do you realize how many OSHA violations that place must cause.

[lime ermine]

i do not like seth AS A BOSS

[jolly bridge]

Doesn’t mean the gameplay is gonna be fun,
Yes it’s a tribute but it can be a slog some times

[lapis maple]

I was just asking

[wicked mason]

🫩

[ancient mortar]

Hes so fun

[lapis maple]

I know I was just asking twin

[feral basin]

Same for me but other people can dislike him

[lime ermine]

i truly feel bad for seth goldman

[lapis maple]

real

[lime ermine]

no way he is not fun

[night ruin]

I love Seth. Very fun boss.

[lapis maple]

same man RIP

[lime ermine]

however bilewater is fun

i enjoy bilewater

[ancient mortar]

Watch my clip, i was havin a blast

[night ruin]

Silksong’s best bosses are when Hornet is fighting something in her own weight class

[wicked mason]

I just don't like his attacks

[ripe geyser]

Since vessels use soul not silk maggoted does nothing to the knight if you have hollowknightinsilksong mod.

[lapis maple]

1 mask....?

[feral basin]

Personally Seth is top 5 most fun bosses for me

[ancient mortar]

challenge run

[lime ermine]

i was having a blast in bilewater

[dry crater]

FUCKING BILEWATERRRRRRR UGHHHHHHHH

[ancient mortar]

bilewater is also a blast

[dry crater]

sax

[lime ermine]

i enjoy bilewater

[dry crater]

Where is this crest gang

[lime ermine]

that is very true

[night ruin]

She bile my water til I putrify her ducts

[lime ermine]

which crest?

[wicked mason]

I was having some other fun in sinner's road

[lime ermine]

woah

[lapis maple]

wow

[dry crater]

idk saxxy said there was one near bilewater/vaults

[ancient mortar]

I also like blight town in dark souls, but bilewater does the poison mechanic better.

[lapis maple]

i guess bro

[dry crater]

[lime ermine]

what is rhe cresr called?

[dry crater]

I dont know bro

[bronze spruce]

Whatever zotes your boat

[ancient mortar]

The only really bad areas in ds1 were endgame regions like lost izalith

[lime ermine]

i enjoy bilewater

[lapis maple]

it isn't the crest yet

[night ruin]

Gutter > Blighttown

[wicked mason]

I enjoy the people in sinner's road

[lapis maple]

you have to get the bud thing the crying dude

[gloomy hill]

Debatable

[ancient mortar]

ughhh i need to play ds2 don't i

[wicked mason]

(Men especially)

[dry crater]

YES YOU DO

[gloomy hill]

You can believe what you want idrc

[night ruin]

I’ll play it with you

[ripe geyser]

If I was on pc I’d just trivialize bilewater with the knight and evicerate Groal and lugoli.

[earnest drift]

not really

[opaque sigil]

yeah kinda

[lime ermine]

i personally dont have much interest in sinners road but i do see the appeal of it to some. nice opinion 👌

[wicked mason]

Oh hey the sweat is here

[ancient mortar]

I just hate ds2s adaptability mechanic. i don't like rolling iframes being based on a stat. it irritates my brain.

[earnest drift]

reaper crest is good for survivability

[lime ermine]

i enjoy bilewater

[lime ermine]

maybe you should go to bilewater

[wicked mason]

No that's not what I meant

[dry crater]

adaptability is the only stat

[opal pelican]

It's been 2 hours why didn't you turn the ping off

[night ruin]

You don’t have to level it if u git gud

[lime ermine]

maybe this weekend ill revisit bilewater

[wicked mason]

For platforming yeah

[lime ermine]

i enjoy bilewater

[dry crater]

There are no other stats, only ADP

[opaque sigil]

adp is mid but there's also the soul economy being vastly different, you get so many more levels it's not that big a deal in practice

[opal pelican]

Rude tbh

[ancient mortar]

I've heard good things about ds2. I just really don't like iframes being inconsistent.

[wicked mason]

But Hunter's awesome for me when platforming, I can platform better with hornet that knight now

[dry crater]

Wheres it at twin

[civic wigeon]

Kaisen

[ancient mortar]

I tried to play ds2 and just couldn't get into it

[opaque sigil]

It sounds worse than it ends up being in practice imo but yeah not a fan of it

[lime ermine]

we got the hk tag ww

[earnest drift]

things hollow knight has better than silksong: nostalgia value, dream nail instead of needolin, endgame being better structured (act 3 involves a lot of running all over the place in already discovered areas)

[lime ermine]

im going back to lego tag ts stinks

[lapis maple]

did you fall down

[opaque sigil]

in general I think the souls games need to rework stats pretty considerably but ds2 is the worst offender with adp, vitality, and attunement

[lime ermine]

i love this server tag

[dry crater]

Yeah i dont wanna talk about it

Went back up

[night ruin]

Ain’t no way we’re saying backtracking is bad in a metroidvania 💔

[ancient mortar]

Its probably like red tools or blood vials thats just an annoying part of an otherwise great game but man does stuff like that bother me.

[wicked mason]

🤤

[lapis maple]

the thing to start the quest to get the crest is in that part of bilewater

[earnest drift]

ok yeah silksong has better endgame as well

[lapis maple]

it's close to the bell station

[dry crater]

i actually have to go in bilewater💔

Fml

[inland edge]

It’s the first time I see someone “🤤” to a server tag

[opaque sigil]

honestly I think red tools are a lot more actively annoying and probably blood vials too but I haven't played bloodborne

[wicked mason]

Silksong overall has better bosses and platforming, and hornet isn't too floaty with more cooler abilities

[wicked mason]

I'm in sinner's road

[lapis maple]

"things Hollow Knight did better than silksong: be released before, have a unique mechanic, and be less of a metroidvania i guess"

[earnest drift]

silksong has consistently better platforming, but currently hollow knight has harder platforming