sk-discussion

[icy crow]

It's a tie because Quirrel would not kill Squirrels

[tepid mist]

100 spit squits

[icy crow]

That's the meta

[tepid mist]

But they're dressed as Uumus

[strange knot]

Needle strikes are rlly good against some bosses

[icy crow]

What evil mind do you have 😨

[strange knot]

And gauntlets

[tepid mist]

muehehehehehehe

[icy crow]

Cross Stitch is peaker imo

[tepid mist]

I basically 2 shot every coral tower enemy with maxxed needle and hunter needle strike

[strange knot]

In coral tower you can spawn kill enemies. Also you can use both at the same time

[storm dagger]

Very fun

[tepid mist]

I wish we had 3 needle strikes like how we had 3 nail arts

[verbal steeple]

cursed crest needle strike helped ALOT in my cursed crest run

[icy crow]

I did mostly one-shot Coral Tower enemies normally because I was with the focus bar at max

[strange knot]

Nah, crest narts are better imo

[tepid mist]

More variety tho, each crest gets 2 more unique strikes : D

[icy crow]

What if Shaman's Needle Strike was basically a charged Buster Shot from Mega Man

[fleet zinc]

Tc don’t want people busting on bosses bro

[tepid mist]

what if shamans needle strike made you say shawman and oneshot everything

[strange knot]

Reaper nart sucks tho. I don’t even know what you can use it for

[tepid mist]

what if great slash sucked ass

[icy crow]

https://tenor.com/view/toad-man-mega-man-mega-man-4-easy-gif-12355304018545164184

[tepid mist]

is basically reaper needle strike

[strange knot]

Hunter nart is more similar to great slash

[icy crow]

Is Reaper's Needle Strike really just a Great Slash lol

[open narwhal]

i miss her,,,

[tepid mist]

Kindaaa i guessss but its just a stronger 2 hit combo

[icy crow]

You do it twice though

[tepid mist]

I hope you'll get over her soon bro

[icy crow]

Anyways. Best Nail Art of Hollow Knight is Cyclone Slash

[open narwhal]

thanks twin ✌️

[untold dune]

cyclone slash is so freaking cool

[tepid mist]

You are correct. Because helicopter and spinnnn and airr stallingg and silllyyy

[strange knot]

And best needle strike of silksong is witch right?
-# not joking btw witch nart is peak as hell

[stable pilot]

How do I get out of the cradle

[tepid mist]

Np, ik how it feels

[tepid mist]

I dont like how it does knockback

[pallid flare]

bait

[icy crow]

I haven't seen all Needle Strikes yet, but for all I can say Thread Storm is basically Cyclone Slash but Hornet Edition

[stable pilot]

Oh I didn't know you could just ride the elevator back

[tepid mist]

start a new save file (jk, take the same elevator u went up to the cradle down)

[light swan]

wow really?

[strange knot]

Tbh after playing with it for a while knockback isn’t that bad

[light swan]

my problem with witch nart is that its not an instant burst which is the type of niche htat i like in narts

[pallid flare]

no, they're actually right

[light swan]

yea i agree with them too dw

[tepid mist]

Its cool but i think cyclone remains on top

[strange knot]

I love the satisfaction of hitting every hit in witch nart

[lusty grove]

Wanderer nart is really cool

[azure mist]

Why can I not post images?

[tepid mist]

she stole it from lace smh

[strange knot]

Never rlly used it

[azure mist]

Nvm.

[tepid mist]

GIT GUD

[azure mist]

What do y'all think of my Silksong Area tier list?

[tepid mist]

I love your bio btw

[strange knot]

True

[azure mist]

Thx!

[tepid mist]

amazing

[strange knot]

Just peak list

[light swan]

i agree with you, except for putrified fucks

[tepid mist]

Putrified fucks😭

[lusty grove]

Sinner's Road way too low

[icy crow]

Hold on Cyclone Slash can exceed 100 damage what the hell

[azure mist]

GROAL FTW. 🤝

[azure mist]

That's fair.

[tepid mist]

Yes, the extended cast is op

[icy crow]

Good thing I used it often in some pantheons back then

It can reach 156 total damage with Pure Nail. Holy gaming

[tepid mist]

Its also pretty good in Hk PVP as a way to catch a opponent off guard

[icy crow]

Meanwhile Thread Storm with Volt Filament can only do like, 96

No, wait

[tepid mist]

Thread storm pre nerf was insane

It was the meta for a while

[strange knot]

My area tier list

[sharp slate]

cyclone is okay, it shines more in AB imo

[icy crow]

How much damage did it do?

[strange knot]

Placement inside of tiers doesn’t matter btw

[tepid mist]

hmmmmmmmmm its kinda ass

[tepid mist]

It could oneshot every enemy except for massive enemy types

[strange knot]

Why

[icy crow]

From my calculations Thread Storm (extended) + Volt Filament nowadays can do 131 damage rounded up

Correct me if I'm wrong

[tepid mist]

Whispering vaults needs to be in A fr

I mean "great"

[icy crow]

Damn. It's still very good though

[strange knot]

Nah, vaults aren’t that good

[icy crow]

But in Steel Soul I'm using Cross Stitch more

[tepid mist]

Damn, i love the vaults

[icy crow]

Time to get into the Abyss in Steel Soul and get Silk Soar

[strange knot]

I was forgetting about cross stitch in steel soul

[tepid mist]

also why is Verdania bad for u

[icy crow]

Silk Soar is basically Shinespark from Metroid but you don't need to charge it up lol

[strange knot]

VERDANIA IS OVERRATED AS HELL

[icy crow]

https://tenor.com/view/super-metroid-animals-dachora-ostrich-super-speed-gif-6698931857158728183

[tepid mist]

I put it in B tier

[strange knot]

Annoying enemies and bosses

[tepid mist]

enemies lowk get cooked by cross stitch

[lusty grove]

my area tier list

[strange knot]

Those freaking things are more annoying than ducts enemies

[light swan]

bilewater in good but not peak? i can understand tbh

[strange knot]

The only thing I really found bad about bilewater is stilkins

[icy crow]

Is it worth it fighting voided Moss Mother in Steel Soul

[strange knot]

Nah

Useless risk even tho it’s easy

[icy crow]

It's funny how some checklist sites have a check for that boss

[strange knot]

Do you need voided moss mother for journal?

[icy crow]

Nope

Moss Mother entry finishes with just three of them iirc

[fickle wharf]

ello ppl

[strange knot]

Hi

[lusty grove]

my Silksong area tierlist (updated for accuracy)

[azure mist]

If you could live anywhere in Pharloom, where would you live?

[lusty grove]

act 1/2 or 3?

[timid plinth]

moss grotto

[azure mist]

Act 3 to make it a bit more difficult.

[sharp tundra]

im gonna lose it

[azure mist]

Tormented Groalbio.

[worthy lintel]

Sea of Trobbio is such a lazy DLC, I can't believe they just made the final boss Trobbio again

[lusty grove]

ok, so all of the Citadel, Bellhart, and Bone Bottom are gone
probably Mt. Fay. Not a lot of neighbours, great view, no major threats to my safety, pretty cold but comes with already built heating points, easy connection to a Bellway if I ever need to

[azure mist]

True.

[sharp tundra]

won finally

[lusty grove]

what's that?

[azure mist]

Enemy randomiser, probably.

[untold dune]

the plasmified worms

[sharp tundra]

Ye

[untold dune]

now that trobbio is added to architect we can finally make green trobbio real 🥹 https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-hollow-knight-silksong-never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-green-gif-10038706922124382739

[barren dew]

Green Trobbio

[azure mist]

Pablio.

[untold dune]

no its green trobbio

[azure mist]

What state of mind does Green Trobbio represent?

[earnest cliff]

why i can't send photos anymore

[untold dune]

green

[barren dew]

Calm and peace

[azure mist]

True.

And the boss is easier than regular Trobbio.

[untold dune]

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[white sail]

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[worthy lintel]

Two green Trobbios

[untold dune]

its so peak 🥹

[barren dew]

Devon are you secretly a mod!!!!!!!!!!

[lusty grove]

I have a plan on how to get to the Citadel without any major issues (while being a Pilgrim)

[untold dune]

well i nabbed it from a mod earlier

[light swan]

i love mods shartpin is my favorite

[barren dew]

That's crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That one friend that's too blue

[untold dune]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-why-are-you-blue-gif-15851792565936245960

[raw pawn]

Who else just tried to 100% hollow knight again to see how easy hollow knight was compared to silksong

[orchid locust]

why are you purple

[barren dew]

@orchid locust

[raw pawn]

Why are all the enemies slow

[elfin pumice]

@orchid locust

[icy crow]

Why are Gargant Glooms so ass to fight

[barren dew]

Because the enemies we slow

[orchid locust]

@barren dew

[raw pawn]

Lifeblood?

[untold dune]

walter's really been branching out

[raw pawn]

Zyletol

[barren dew]

Why do you hate SHERMA

[elfin pumice]

I’m a bird

[oblique patio]

Hey guys

[raw pawn]

Literal my thoughts

[chrome canopy]

I BEAT SHAKRA
wdym this is a mini-boss this was harder then most of Act 2

[orchid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/hideo-kojima-mgs-rocket-metal-gear-idkguyidk-gif-6710607785251356347

[olive drift]

the underworks is my favorite

[barren dew]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hollow-night-silksong-faridulasimanet-sherma-silksong-gif-171830693794769624

[olive drift]

sherma is a meanie imo

[orchid locust]

annoying ✅
unqualified caretaker ✅
doesn’t have a medical license ✅
little bitch ✅

[olive drift]

check

[barren dew]

I hope you get a job

[orchid locust]

same

[barren dew]

Have you even played silksong at this point

[olive drift]

yes

I hate sherma 👍

[barren dew]

Yeah sure sherma is meanie that makes so much sense!

[lusty grove]

Psalm Cylinder tier list

[rich herald]

S tier one better be mizello cylinder

[barren dew]

Low-key I should start calling those who say the most untrue thing "people who lie" about playing the game

[rich herald]

@barren dew

[earnest cliff]

why i can't send photos anymore

[barren dew]

@rich herald

[rocky jolt]

conductor mizello in s tier

[rich herald]

you need 300 message for embed perms

[barren dew]

HOLLOW

[rich herald]

BON

[barren dew]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-the-hollow-knight-petpet-gif-10506523019689369782

[rich herald]

[storm dagger]

Fr

[barren dew]

Please hollow I need this emoji!!! My emojis are kinda zoteless 😓😓😓

[lusty grove]

nvm I thought twice and this is my tier list

[orchid locust]

am i those who lie

[rich herald]

Its in fireb0rn’s server

[orchid locust]

@rich herald

[barren dew]

No, you hate sherma sure but calling sherma meanie is just the most untrue thing I have ever heard

[rich herald]

@orchid locust

[orchid locust]

what’s 112nlr

[rich herald]

Steve

112% no logic randomizer

[barren dew]

If you want to hate a character at least be right about the facts before hating

[orchid locust]

oh 💀 💀

[marsh ibex]

having a medical license in silksong would be a bad thing

[orchid locust]

i assume no logic means it still has the skip logic? or can it just genuinely generate impossible scenarios

[barren dew]

Steve joblessgpt please generate me a character ALL frauds would love

[rich herald]

no logic whatsoever

so the rando can just generate a dreamer in the black egg for instance

[rose whale]

zote

[barren dew]

TYYY

[rich herald]

or mothwing/shade cloak behind a shade gate

which happened to me my last attempt 💀

[lusty grove]

no matter how hard you try, it's impossible to make a character that everyone hates

[barren dew]

I like blue

[rocky jolt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXTA5bAdZqo

[strange knot]

Me too

[rose whale]

who here loves groal the great?

[strange knot]

Goal the great isn’t that bad

[barren dew]

Goal 🙏🏻

[lusty grove]

as a character? me

[rose whale]

yeah but who loves him? (not as a character)

[orchid locust]

🤖 generating…….

ERROR! All Hollow Knight characters are uniquely written and succeed at either being likeable or hateable with ambiguity for opinionated interpretation!

……..

CHARACTER GENERATED: Traitor Lord

[rich herald]

Ideally i’d like to do 112% NLR without major glitches, so no main menu storage, no bench storage, no noclips, no room duping, etc

[marsh spoke]

the flukenest is telling me to hurt myself and others

[barren dew]

I did NOT expect that answer this is so funny

[lusty grove]

I love Traitor Lord

[strange knot]

What’s nlr

[rich herald]

no logic randomizer

[barren dew]

Why would you do this!!!

[rocky jolt]

heh..

[rich herald]

Fun

[barren dew]

NO THIS OS TERRIFYING

[rich herald]

not exactly the funnest thing for 112% but still fun

[orchid locust]

monarch wings at the end of pop 🔥

[rich herald]

TRUE

All white palace items are randoed too including pop

[strange knot]

Can you do pop wingless btw

[rich herald]

no

[marsh spoke]

The radiance is telling my to hurt myself and others

[rich herald]

the first jump in pop requires wings

[barren dew]

I wanna replay hollow knight but I'm lazy

[rose whale]

is pop possible without double jump?

[marsh spoke]

Help me holly.

[rocky jolt]

https://x.com/AnotherJooby/status/2016569597646803094

Jooby (@AnotherJooby)

just noticed her dumb little feet

X · Jan 28, 2026, 5:50 PM

[barren dew]

??!?!??!!?!!??!!??!!??!!??!

[lusty grove]

reminds me of a streamer who did a randomizer and Lurien was in the hidden geo rock at the first room of King's Pass

[barren dew]

THE FEET

[orchid locust]

cant you do it with the abyss shriek pogo or whatever or is that for something else entirely

[rich herald]

They tell me the same thing

[rose whale]

oh its notno way thats real

[rich herald]

shrogo requires double jump i think

[barren dew]

Why does she have baby feet

[orchid locust]

oh right

[strange knot]

Don’t you need to have wings to gain hight with shrieks pogos

[tepid mist]

Mann why do triple A games take so long to download even when they’re 2-3 hours long

Its been 40 minutes

[icy crow]

Finished the Abyss enemy entries. Thankfully

Boutta do the Abyss escape in Steel Soul

[radiant laurel]

one really good part of Silksong for me was that when Act 3 started, the difficulty ramped up pretty much exactly enough that I was as good as at the start of the game (when I had just the dash). like it was pretty much exactly that hard

[median fractal]

Its triple a slop, you only- you dont even like it because its NOT good

[tepid mist]

Spider-man games are peak tho

[rocky jolt]

i love this hidden area

[tepid mist]

silk eater

[median fractal]

Like theres somw peak... but more slop...

[strange knot]

Start of act 3 is lwk boring. You just go from one place to another

[median fractal]

We talkin first playthrough?

Because that was the high for me then

[strange knot]

It was cool in first one.

Chat died ):

[silver topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-shield-gif-4723149553822545077

[rose whale]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-al1zad3-gif-22610601

[verbal steeple]

what does beast's attack range look like

[rose whale]

?

[radiant laurel]

that’s true

[rose whale]

pretty long

[verbal steeple]

i wanna see hitboxes

[radiant laurel]

but the challenge was on point

[rose whale]

here managed to capture it

[radiant laurel]

I propose a new speedrun category, BestBoss%, where you beat Plasmified Zango as fast as possible

[verbal steeple]

pretty long

[rose whale]

told you

[verbal steeple]

i got captureeed. soon i'll be able to do act 1 mountfay

it doesn't make much sense hornet wouldn't be able to use silk skills with naked crest

i mean it's not like the silk skills are physical things

it makes sense she wouldn't be able to use like. cross stitch and silkspear

[radiant laurel]

but then why can you only equip one

[verbal steeple]

because hornet is stupid

[untold dune]

actually yeah what the freak

[verbal steeple]

and needs to b ind a shaman to be smart enough to use 3

[icy crow]

It's cool how some eyes watch Hornet in the background in the third time she's about to bind Shaman

[untold dune]

crests arent rly physical things either, why doesnt hornet just go beast crest mode

[verbal steeple]

beast crest wanderer crit shaman damage reaper silk witch bind

[untold dune]

silksong but every attack releases reaper silk orbs regardless of ur crest

[lusty grove]

cuz of gameplay

[untold dune]

boring 🥱

[lusty grove]

the same reason the Knight can't put even more charms while overcharmed

[hybrid root]

Has there been any news since SoS teaser?

[verbal steeple]

i wonder. does naked crest down pogo have i frames

[hybrid root]

Rip

[marsh spoke]

probably?

[untold dune]

prob not

[silver topaz]

Because bread tastes better than

[marsh spoke]

its functionally identical to hunters

[untold dune]

true actually

[rose whale]

you cant pogo spikes tho cuz ur not using the needle so its not the same

[verbal steeple]

grindle sees naked hornet but only thinks about rosaries. he's based

[marsh spoke]

we're talking about iframes specifically the spike part doesnt matter here

[sour hull]

okay time to settle this which area is the least worst deepnest or bilewater

[untold dune]

hes doing it for the love of the game

[untold dune]

bilewater bro it makes deepnest look like a cakewalk

[sour hull]

i said least worst

[untold dune]

deepnest then

its a cakewalk compared to bilewater

[silver topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-anotado-noted-noted-gato-noted-cat-gif-15232071836705052766

[hybrid root]

I wonder how many crests the dlc will add

[verbal steeple]

bilewater is the best

[silver topaz]

One

[untold dune]

prob only 1?

[eager creek]

Deepnest isn't even that bad tbh

[untold dune]

would be odd to add 2 in the same area

[verbal steeple]

U CAN WAVE DASH WITH NAKED CREST

[silver topaz]

Bilewater by far

[sour hull]

yeah i think bilewater is slightly better because it has better music than deepnest and there is no spider (besides hornet)

[untold dune]

its not even the worst area in hk

[verbal steeple]

naked crest better than reaper

[silver topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-gif-12542542708470547288

[hybrid root]

I mean dlc overall not SoS, SoS should just be 1

[untold dune]

it just presents itself as scary but queens gardens is so much harder

[eager creek]

People only dislike it because it's creepy, but the area itself isn't super difficult

[untold dune]

yea

[eager creek]

Bilewater is just annoying

[untold dune]

and bilewater is also not the worst area in sk (ducts)

[eager creek]

True...

[hybrid root]

Deepnest is also just pretty annoying to navigate, a lot of the areas blend together and it’s very cramped

[eager creek]

I hate the stupid ceiling grabber guys. Don't even remember their name

[light swan]

putrified fucks

bilewater is so fun :D

[untold dune]

barnaks

[sour hull]

for real the only bad things in bilewater and muckmaggots but there are also in sinner, fake bench, gauntlet followed by groal the great but even there groal was an easy boss maybe easier than nosk

[eager creek]

Yes, ty

[untold dune]

nosk is such an annoying boss

[hybrid root]

Bilewater’s cool, grew an appreciation for that piece of shit hellhole

[silver topaz]

U can just sit under the ledge he runs over u

[eager creek]

Groal wouldn't have as many complaints as he does if you didn't have to do his gauntlet each time

[untold dune]

yeah prob

[hybrid root]

Groal wouldn’t have as many complaints as he does if any of his annoying aspects were toned down

[sour hull]

oh and deepnest has aracnophobia, floor breaking, cornifer isnt humming when encountered, you will have trouble escaping, you can randomly fall here from fungal, just nothing interesting

[eager creek]

He only took me forever because I am garbage at enemy gauntlets 😔 😔

[untold dune]

groal is trivialized for casuals by just using wreath tho

[eager creek]

Yea, exactly

[sour hull]

actually i beat groal 1 attempt just camp the left door and you'll be fine

[eager creek]

I just have a skill issue tbh

[hybrid root]

My only complaint with Groal is the lengthy runback, I’m not opposed to one existing but Groal’s just isn’t fun (granted that is the point but still)

[undone lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-smile-sukuna-sukuna-smile-freaky-sukuna-gif-4852549280133734300

[untold dune]

i feel bad for all the people who never found the secret bench

[sour hull]

btw why cant i find the cage wardenfly anywhere where they are supposed to be

[crystal maple]

so Is GMS just easy or am I good I got to first stagger and almost to 2nd first try?

[undone lantern]

ong

[exotic cedar]

I'm glad the gif isnt embed

[icy crow]

Alright so what should I do in Steel Soul act three right now

• Fight Pinstress
• Save Plinney & do the Festival

[untold dune]

gms is easy

[sour hull]

gms easy

[crystal maple]

that’s what I thought

[undone lantern]

yeah sadly

[hybrid root]

Though I suppose assuming pantheons return that issue won’t exist there so ig this is just a moot point

[tawdry valley]

Maybe not everyone. I didn’t and I 2 tried the boss because groal was one of the last things I found in act 2 lol

[undone lantern]

you should fight tormented trobbio

[untold dune]

festival theres no risk of death lol

[icy crow]

I will soon

[icy crow]

Can Pinstress actually kill you?

[undone lantern]

yeah but tbh hes easy if you take your time

[tawdry valley]

Pantheons really don’t need to come back. Hall of gods yes, maybe with more interesting medals to earn

[untold dune]

yeah, tho you can just flee the arena if you get low

[icy crow]

Or just do the forbidden art of save & quit

[untold dune]

yeah but i dont like that

[undone lantern]

but i like the concept of pantheons in silksong

[icy crow]

Pinstress is overall easy though so I don't think it will be a problem

[tawdry valley]

Shovel knight has this cool thing where you can fight challenge versions of bosses that have a timer, but you get a couple of uses of a very specific relic.

[hybrid root]

True I meant hall of gods

[steep jolt]

they should add a ending you get when killing gms with maggots like how you can get one from killing her with the parasite

[untold dune]

i had to flee her on my steel soul lol, i got cocky

[tawdry valley]

Why? Whats interesting about pantheons besides all the things TC did to try and make them not boring

[hybrid root]

I love the pantheons but I’m okay with them not returning so long as hall of gods returns

[marsh spoke]

please dont fucking add pantheons again

[tawdry valley]

pantheon 5 especially is accepted to be 50% filler.

[sharp slate]

some people just like a boss rush

[undone lantern]

the thrill of fighting a bunch of bosses in a row

[sharp slate]

good thing is if you dont like it you just can not play it...

[barren dew]

I have a very annoying headache

[sour hull]

bro you know groal is actually mad that bilewater is bile

[tawdry valley]

I liked pantheons only once I started playing with bindings

[marsh spoke]

unless they make the p5 equivalent not have filler and more changed up arenas

[hybrid root]

Would be fun to have a pantheon with 60+ bosses

[untold dune]

its more meant to be extra content after youve beaten the rest of the game imo

[marsh spoke]

not a good argument

[sharp slate]

so an optional challenge with 0 achievement or anything really locked behind it

[tawdry valley]

The thrill of steamrolling 8 bosses and feeling pressure for two, you mean

[eager creek]

The humble pantheon achievements:

[crystal maple]

Also should I be using reapers crest for gms

[distant prawn]

Ive finally started playing Silksong as a way to rest from Pantheon 3

[untold dune]

he has a dream

[sharp slate]

all bindings is dogshit but there is 0 reason to do it

[tawdry valley]

Yeah, I did bindings for fun

[marsh spoke]

yes its optional but just because its optional shouldnt mean it sucking ass is fine

[sharp slate]

all bindings should not be a reason for silksong pantheon not to exist

[untold dune]

use whatever crest u want they're all good

[marsh spoke]

since we're on the topic of bindings this is a good example

[tawdry valley]

I’m saying it’s a reason it should, you seem to misunderstand

[crystal maple]

well yeah but some crests are better for some bosses

[sharp slate]

ah gotcha

[hybrid root]

True I don’t like the bindings, though there should be some additional form of challenge players can impose on themselves for the pantheons

[marsh spoke]

p5ab gives you nothing. its completely optional. i dont think the fact its fucking terrible is made better by this

[tawdry valley]

Pantheons in hollow knight were rushed free content made of mostly recycled content.

[undone lantern]

i mean yeah kind of, but there would be bindings and shi. plus if you rly think about it if youre good enough you could steamroll them all

[untold dune]

reaper is fine

[sharp slate]

p5 achievement, which doesnt take that long

its the hardest challenge in the game but isnt impossible/time consuming imo

[tawdry valley]

Mixed reception, all the reasons people don’t like them are rather easily worked around - and all the reasons people like them or want them to return are honestly seperate from those issues

[marsh spoke]

like should it be lower priority? yes
should it suck though? no i dont think it should

[sour hull]

lets be honest if a pantheon of pharloom appeared who would be final boss absolute lost lace or gms in her prime (like how pure vessel is prime hk she could be great weaver queen) or even better shade lord we never got to fight this dude so imagine lost lace followed by him

[hybrid root]

What I’d love for TC to do is implement a sort of Hades pact of punishment type feature to customize the difficulty of pantheons to our liking

[undone lantern]

i think steel soul is the hardest

[marsh spoke]

ermmmmm technically the hardest challenge recognized by the game is r5

[sharp slate]

achievement... ACHIEVEMENT

[undone lantern]

whats that

[tawdry valley]

See? Now you get it. Bindings are the ideal way to get a challenge mode

[marsh spoke]

oh achievement

[untold dune]

r5 isnt recognized by the game, p5 all bindings is however

[sharp slate]

hitless p5

[marsh spoke]

r5 is actually

[tawdry valley]

R5 is recognized

[untold dune]

is it?

[sharp slate]

r5 is recongized you get a glow

[marsh spoke]

its just that the radiant glow is overriden by the p5ab glow

[untold dune]

oh huh

[hybrid root]

Honestly yeah actually saying it that is just bindings but more freedom

[undone lantern]

holy fuh do people even do that?

[tawdry valley]

Glow that gets overshadowed if you do all bindings, funny enough

[marsh spoke]

because in the eyes of tc r5 is easier than p5ab i guess

[untold dune]

why is the slowmode 10 seconds now ts blows

[sharp slate]

think about 250 people have done hitless p5 so far

probably a bit more, thats the official number on the doc

[tawdry valley]

People have also done hitless all bindings at once

[marsh spoke]

isnt it more

[untold dune]

r5 all bindings when

[undone lantern]

oh wow, i cant even get past nosk most of the time

[tawdry valley]

Like 2 years ago

[sharp slate]

r5 is a lot of time dedication

[untold dune]

lmao

[undone lantern]

genuinely how 😭

[marsh spoke]

anyway ab is genuinely ass and i hope the silksong bindings if we end up getting that shit are better

[hybrid root]

One of my problems with bindings is that they’re all so extreme so there isn’t really a way to ease into each one

[sharp slate]

quite a few have done it, i would try it if it was gruelingly long

[silver oak]

Took me 2 years give or take

[desert flare]

I still haven't beaten p5 😭

[tawdry valley]

AB is fine and I want silksong godhome to lean into player restrictions

[undone lantern]

same

[sharp slate]

probably varies based on person i guess

[marsh spoke]

i really really dislike ab im gonna be real

[sharp slate]

i think i had 100 hours ish when i completed p5 (maybe hard to tell )and hk was my first metroidvania'

[untold dune]

it took me about 6 months to get p5

[desert flare]

I once got to the final phase of absolute radiance at the end of p5 and lost and I basically gave up

[marsh spoke]

well to be specific p5ab

[tawdry valley]

There are a few rough spots on certain bosses but overall I think it’s the healthiest thing to do for the pantheons

P1-4 AB were genuinely fun. They’re the only reason I made it to P5AB

[undone lantern]

dang

[steep jolt]

tips for second sentinel?

[marsh spoke]

p5ab is just genuinely soul draining for me my furthest atm has been gpz for months now

[sharp slate]

p5ab is just not worth it unless you enjoy it

[undone lantern]

w-would anyone be willing to watch me try to beat p5

[untold dune]

i did p1-3 with individual bindings for the lifeblood masks and that was enough for me

[steep jolt]

wtf wanderers crest is op why am i just learning about ths

[marsh spoke]

the individual bindings are.... fine? i just really dont think they mix well together. yeah its a lot harder but its really not the fun kind of hard for me

[tawdry valley]

They have lots of end lag for their moves. Dodge and then go crazy, wanderer and fast approach attacks are great. (Dash attack on Hunter, clawline)

[eager creek]

You have not been in this channel enough, clearly

[hybrid root]

SS with p5ab would probably be a lot more fun since we’d (probably) still have crests (and also just SS bosses are just more fun)

[barren dew]

I love wanderer

[tawdry valley]

I think this applies to any facet of the game so idk what to say

[undone lantern]

personally i find hunters crest better mostly because of the sprint attack and the downwards slash

[sharp slate]

fair, but i see so many people forcing themselves through p5ab xD

[marsh spoke]

maybe im looking at this from my biased pov of really being miserable while trying p5ab but i just dont think its that good

[azure patrol]

Did you know?
There is a pretty cool spell you can use on lore channels that spawns "Several people are typing..."
It goes like "Hornet is void"

[tawdry valley]

Bindings in principle fixed a HK design problem. Bosses like mother are not designed around an endgame players kit, no matter how much you buff their hp

[tawdry valley]

Yeah but it’s true now so

[steep jolt]

hornet is void

IT WORKS

[barren dew]

What the Frick it's real

[hybrid root]

I’d like the bindings more if they were tiered so you’d have easier versions of each binding to try instead of just jumping right into one (so basically Hades Pact of Punishment)

[tawdry valley]

Boss specific challenges and restrictions would make a hall of gods 2 awesome

[marsh spoke]

if they do return bindings in silksong i would rather have health and nail completely replaced with something else i just Dont think they do much more in ab than just make the whole process more miserable

[tawdry valley]

Ew no

[open narwhal]

i miss she/her

[void moat]

you can actually do the same in sk-discussion, thing is there are many more options

[barren dew]

@marsh spoke

[tawdry valley]

Sliders are also only really a thing for like, 5 of the punishments

[barren dew]

Several people are typing...

[waxen whale]

Ranking metroadvanias that I have played

1. Silksong: 10/10
2. hollow knight 9.8/10
3. rogue prince of persia 9.5/10
4. mio memories in orbit 7-8/10
5. nine sol (with eigong in mind it’s a 6-7, without eigong it’s a 8-9)

[tawdry valley]

And pantheons don’t need to be roguelike runs either.

[marsh spoke]

charm and soul already nerf your health, spell and nail damage output i just dont see the point on making that even worse. reminds me of the drg hz5+ modifiers

[barren dew]

In mind it's what....

[hybrid root]

True but a lot of the Hades punishments aren’t as crippling as the HK bindings

[untold dune]

craziest nine sols opinion ive seen ngl

[waxen whale]

I dislike the ||eigong boss fight|| what can I say; the only metrodvania boss I haven’t finished; it just doesn’t interest me to dedicate the time to a boss like that; and I say this as someone who has 100% all the other metrodvanias on my list and done all their bosses including their hard ones

[tawdry valley]

The point is that bosses eat sand if you’re mildly competent.
Again, nobody likes p5 because 50-80% is BORING

[desert flare]

I wonder if they'll do harder versions of bosses for the godhome dlc like white defender and pure vessel

[hybrid root]

They don’t need to be, I’m just suggesting more freedom in the difficulty

[tawdry valley]

Bindings are a means to encourage new strategies, as well as yes - punish players for using the same strategy and complaining it’s slower

[fiery burrow]

Randomized boss order for variety

[fading path]

Good points. Personally i like nine sols but thats a respectable order

[eager creek]

Probably. I know a lot of people are hoping for gms buff

[sour hull]

okay so how is first sinner harder than gms like how does that makes sense im glad cogflies are here

[untold dune]

there is a mod for this i think

[plucky barn]

hi

[tawdry valley]

Would be cool but unfortunately any amount of luck can only be interpreted as punishing the player if it’s not perfect

[marsh spoke]

both those things are true. what im saying is that half the bindings already achieve that effect to a decent enough degree and the other half just makes it a significantly more miserable experience

[hybrid root]

What isn’t there a mod for with HK?

[fading path]

Hi

[plucky barn]

FROM 5 TO 10 SECOND CHAT

[untold dune]

they havent ported hornet over to it yet

[barren dew]

Hope it goes to one hour

[plucky barn]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hornet-baby-silksong-baby-hornet-gif-15520072973237246484

[tawdry valley]

Charm binding is bad because I think it ruins creativity. Then I think about all my low-notch builds:
oops all Quickslash

[hybrid root]

Touche

[fiery burrow]

I'd actually play a roguelike pantheon where you get stronger the more bosses you fight it would be cool athough I can't imagine it being interesting past like 10 hours

[untold dune]

i wonder if you can beat hk with only hornet's moveset

[median radish]

Yeah maybe

[sour hull]

like a boss that heals wth

[untold dune]

i cant think of anything shed be hard locked out of unlike in sk with the clawline hoops

[tawdry valley]

You’d also be starting from base kit or something. Without a lot of new content the idea is ass. It’s just “wouldn’t it be nice if there was a whole extra game”

[marsh spoke]

charm binding would be a lot worse but the meta exists so that makes it a lot better, since its not like youre genuinely going to equip anything other than the straight damage up charms. a tool binding in silksong would feel a lot worse though probably since theres only like 1 tool thats a straight damage up and the rest tend to be more interesting

[tawdry valley]

Obviously would love to do something like that though. Especially with mixed crest moves

[eager creek]

Probably, if you sub in needolin for anything that needs dreamnail access

[fiery burrow]

Yeah

[tawdry valley]

Soul binding has no downside to dps if you cast constantly. Mask binding is obvious, nail binding is necessary but maybe a bit to harsh without strength- I think they should have let nail arts scale well anyways, the bindings are fine

[verbal steeple]

wastelands more like bilelands

[sour hull]

okay so who decided to ruin one of the best bossfights gameplay based with her healing 100 hp all the time while spamming the usual rule in bossfights is heal is a player only move

[graceful oyster]

Hershey

[untold dune]

u can interrupt her heal tho

[verbal steeple]

i love sharp dart sooo much

[sour hull]

and why does every weaver has this fakeout death and boom phase 2 with infinite spam

[fiery burrow]

I would probably make it so soul binding gives you two charges so healing is a bit more forgiving

[rose whale]

it didnt ruin the fight its one of the best fights in the game

[eager creek]

You can hit her out of the heal pretty easily

[marsh spoke]

soul binding is a good binding and forces you to manage soul better i agree
mask binding imo is extremely harsh. this might be the fact that i suck at this game speaking but 4 masks feels really oppressive on the problematic segment of p5 (markoth to gpz)
nail binding isnt necessary cause charm binding removing quickslash and strength already guts your dps by a lot

[fiery burrow]

Nail binding being extreme is definitely what makes the whole thing a slog besides P5 being P5 though

[rocky jolt]

why is there hidden silk flowers before fourth chorus

[sour hull]

i know but still a boss that heals is weird

[waxen whale]

Waiter waiter more roguelikes and metroadvanias please

[eager creek]

Why not?

[rocky jolt]

bro the boss is easy

[graceful oyster]

[marsh spoke]

honestly rethinking this my biggest problem with mask binding is that specific stretch. i really dont think about that binding otherwise because the double damage bosses tend not to be bullshit so it dont matter there

[verbal steeple]

if sharp dart was real it would be a mountain peak

it is SO peak.

[tight viper]

It’s for providing easy silk for a heal stall to skip the fight

[verbal steeple]

i don't CARE about its usage in combat

[verbal coyote]

I just made this out of boredom

[marsh spoke]

idk a lot of the problems of p5ab are mostly the problems of p5 multiplied by all bindings so this might be less me complaining about ab and more me complaining about p5 in general

[hardy stag]

so people like you find it and post about it in Hollow Knight Discord sk-discussion wondering why it's been added and boost the total amount of messages in the server it's all part of team cherrys plan

[verbal coyote]

Warning (absolute rad at the end)

[marsh spoke]

like the longer fights wouldnt mattter imo if half the pantheon wasnt boring as shit

[rocky jolt]

they could not have intended that

[untold dune]

nah im fully convinced that 4th chorus skip was intended by the devs

they could have easily moved that ledge a tiny little bit, they had to know air stalls were a thing

[hardy stag]

yeah bro I was there when they codded the fight and it's totally intended

[wary storm]

pantheon of pharloom (or however it would be named) would be so much better, hope devs wont include runbacks and enemy gauntlets before bossfights

[hardy stag]

I was the keyboard bro

[untold dune]

all i hope is they dont include zango

[fiery burrow]

please put in High Halls Gauntlet and Coral Tower 🙏

[wary storm]

craggler or whatever

[icy crow]

I was fighting Pinstress just alright until I started being a dumbass

[wary storm]

upside down crab i love him so much team cherry add 6 of them scattered around the pantheon

[balmy wraith]

the few times when sk is more on-topic than hk

[ripe geyser]

You can skip to get faydown cloak without clawline via the horizontal movement of sharp dart when you get to the first enemy you need to pogo die to it first, then pogo off it after the runback followed by death cocoon pogo to reach the wall.

[icy crow]

Why did you remind me I have to visit Wormways 💔

[timid valve]

Can anybody tell my why Pavo behaves differently if you're far away? (watch to the end)

[sour hull]

why do i fell like faydown is more of an inconvenients in some fights

[crystal maple]

Actually kind of pissed that gms is so easy

[steep jolt]

i feel like it would be a fourth act called like "symphonies of pharloom" and you know how the pantheons in hollow knight spell out
M(aster)
A(rtist)
S(age)
K(knight)
i think silksong would be
S
I
L
K

[steep jolt]

i think its because his town is dead

[untold dune]

hes an attention seeker ngl

[steep jolt]

he gave you a bellhome dont be mean

[verbal steeple]

i fucking love sharp dart so much

[untold dune]

he can do both

[graceful oyster]

MIO's GMS equivalent is really fun and not piss easy

[timid valve]

watch the entire vid. He only dances if you're close

[verbal steeple]

far fields mask shard without needing clawline

[steep jolt]

THE SILK SKILL???

[verbal steeple]

yes

[graceful oyster]

Little fun fact

[balmy wraith]

skilk sill

[steep jolt]

its cheeks

[verbal steeple]

nope. you're just trash

[rocky jolt]

what about the groal the great equivalent

[timid valve]

yooo, another act1 guy? I'm one as well!

[balmy wraith]

all silks skills are good

[crystal maple]

sharp dart is actually peak

[verbal steeple]

this is my 6th playthrough

[graceful oyster]

Haven't fought it yet

[steep jolt]

just got all fast travel unless theres something other than ventricas and bell stations

[wary storm]

welp I hope we get choir of hunters and they'd summon god of song to give them cover under IT's humming cloak and recall biggest prey they preyed

[verbal steeple]

i don't like sharp dart because it's "optimal" in combat

[wary storm]

every magic is optimal

[verbal steeple]

i like it because it allows me to do skips. also reminds me of sharp shadow (peak)

[graceful oyster]

Sharo Shadow!!!

[steep jolt]

upgrade gms in godhome and call her "the pale weaverlord"

[balmy wraith]

pale queen

[steep jolt]

i like threadstorm because its like if defenders crest was good

[timid valve]

I know how to via gamebreaking glitches enter the citadel via putrified ducts. If wanna do that, contact me.

[marsh spoke]

ABSOLUTE GRAND MOTHER SILK

[mighty crest]

maybe they can be named on the four hearts

[balmy wraith]

i stopped using thread storm cuz i always get hit while using it or the boss just moves away from it

i switched to pale nails cuz free dmg

[verbal steeple]

oh well maybe some other time

currently i'm just gonnat ry and do act 1 mountfay. tho i'm gonna find my own route for it

[marsh spoke]

silkspear better

[verbal steeple]

more like silk shit

[icy crow]

Electrified Cross Stitch finished Pinstress off

[balmy wraith]

i loike silkspear too but i dont use it cuz i like pale nails more

[dusky bobcat]

theyre the same damage yall chill

[untold dune]

volt filament is so op

[verbal steeple]

but sharpdart gives skips

lowkey the far fields second mask shard ascend is better than the abyss

[balmy wraith]

sharpdart gives dartsharps

[marsh spoke]

keep my wife's name out of your goddamn mouth

[steep jolt]

if i didnt have it id use silk spear

[steep jolt]

your wifes name is silk shit?

[marsh spoke]

no my wife is silk spear

[dusky bobcat]

Sharpdart is a little more dmg than spear but in exchange has more startup

[steep jolt]

oh i love silk spear

[balmy wraith]

i always use the same 3 blue tools and i refuse to switch off those, which is why i never tried other blue tools

[verbal steeple]

nah it's silk shit

[verbal steeple]

sharp dart is a lesser version of sharp shadow.

but lesser peak is still peak

i keep trying to use other crests but i just keep getting drawn towards hunter crest

[balmy wraith]

we need a silks skill where hornet grabs the opponent with silk and starts slamming them into a bunch of walls

[split cape]

I'm starting to see a pattern

[balmy wraith]

same

[untold dune]

fun fact: grey mourner made up their backstory so you would feel bad for them

[verbal steeple]

can someone calculate how fast hornet's wall dash is with flea brew compare to just wall cling jumping

[dusky bobcat]

do what i did and fight ll damageless on every crest to get used to the feel of each one

[verbal steeple]

flea brew makes her wall dash not only faster but go further

[verbal steeple]

lowkey would rather do ll cursed than reaper

the only thing preventing me from doing that in my cursed crest run is due to team cherry being a bitch and not allowing me to go into act 3 and fight lost lace (which also is programmed to be impossible with cursed)

[balmy wraith]

why is hk discussion rn lowkey worse than sk most of the time

[marsh spoke]

cool people are active in sk disc rn

this channel is generally worse though

[balmy wraith]

yeah

[verbal steeple]

remember how that one racist dude was not banned forl ike 2 hours

bad times

[dusky bobcat]

you can skip reaper

[marsh spoke]

ts was on saturday

[verbal steeple]

eh. i wanna use wanderer but at the same time it's kinda thin?

tho i do also wanna learn to parry so maybe i should pick up wanderer for a bit

tho i'm probably gonna need to use hunter for the 2 tool slots to do act 1 mount fay

[dusky bobcat]

meh, as a wanderer main you kinda slap longclaw on it

[verbal steeple]

i never use longclaw with wanderer

i deal with the short range because i'm based like that

[vestal vault]

they all suck, we gonna change this server to a digimon server.

[icy crow]

Why am I actually being ass at Silksong today

[balmy wraith]

i use longclaw with everything no matter what

[verbal steeple]

also longclaw doesn't seem to fix the issue of wanderer's attack being thin

[dusky bobcat]

it’s actually longer than hunter…

[tight viper]

It’s Wednesday, so it’s Washeday

[verbal steeple]

it's as long as hunter but not as wide

[balmy wraith]

because you arent on hunter crest

[dusky bobcat]

someone pull up that avg length sheet

[icy crow]

I literally struggled the climb in Brightvein for no reason

[verbal steeple]

hunter is WIDER than wanderer

[icy crow]

I'm literally using Hunter since the start

[warm jasper]

how much dmg does witch bind do

[tight viper]

On its own, 65 or something I think

[verbal steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-3134327606096542884

[warm jasper]

WHAT

[balmy wraith]

flashbang

[dusky bobcat]

true, but you can use either silk skills or circlet to offset it

[verbal steeple]

u should never run witch crest bind on its own

[balmy wraith]

use it harder

[tight viper]

Or wait no it’s 63

[warm jasper]

is witchh crest secretly the best crest

[tight viper]

Each hit is equal to needle damage

[icy crow]

I've finished base with Hunter alone and I'm now doing Steel Soul

[brave geyser]

I died to voltvyrm on barbed soul today

Voltvyrm

[balmy wraith]

i just tried steel soul, i died to that one enemy that throws magma balls at you at the entrance to deep docks

[brave geyser]

3 and a half hours into the run

[balmy wraith]

i didnt make it very far but il try again

[brave geyser]

I was too dumb and too arrogant to not change sawtooth for injector bands

[dusky bobcat]

gimmicky, depends on who u ask

[tight viper]

Witch is definitely up there

[dusky bobcat]

it does have a fun gimmick tho

[verbal steeple]

so where are all the tool pouch damage upgrades?

[graceful oyster]

Talking about the best crest is so boring

Exhausting even

[verbal steeple]

one in deep docks. uhhhhhh creige. and grindle. but where's the last

[tight viper]

Mort?

[verbal steeple]

like the organ?

[dusky bobcat]

grindle, forge daughter, creige, mort for crawbug clearing?

[graceful oyster]

Like fossil fuel engines

[verbal steeple]

that's a capcity update

[brave geyser]

Forge daughter
Creige (quest)
Grindle
12th architect

[tight viper]

Oh right arch has it

[verbal steeple]

12th architect! yea

[brave geyser]

How do y'all miss that

[verbal steeple]

i forgor arch sold it

[icy crow]

I now have to do the Festival

Let's hope I don't rage out in this again

[brave geyser]

Anyway tool pouch are:
Loddie
Mort
Nuu
Fleas (save 22)

[verbal steeple]

ye i know about that

don't think u can do nuu in act 1 right? not enough enemies

[balmy wraith]

nuu gives a tool pouch?

[tight viper]

You can, barely

[lusty grove]

Drifter's Cloak is technically an optional ability

[brave geyser]

There's exactly 101 enemies in act 1

[rose whale]

clover dancer have to be one of my favorite bosses the only problem with cogwork dancers i had was that it was too easy

[balmy wraith]

no

[tight viper]

It is optional

[balmy wraith]

at least i dont think

[rocky jolt]

when im in a best hollow knight characters competition and my opponent is poggy thorax

[eager creek]

There's a video with a guy doing this iirc

[balmy wraith]

oh it is?

[lusty grove]

it is
you can get through all of act 1 and 2 without ever getting Drifter's Cloak

idk about act 3 thou

[brave geyser]

It doesn't give a %

[tight viper]

Just gotta do some skips

[tight viper]

It was, but voltvessel and conch cutter pogos got removed

[zealous blade]

guys i think we allhave that friend when you punch him a little and he going on a rampage:

[last dew]

@brave geyser @icy crow

[lusty grove]

Far Fields is entirely skippable, and the only singular place in the Underworks that needed it can be skipped with Reaper's Crest

[balmy wraith]

lace

[icy crow]

👀 👋

[zealous blade]

lits fells like this

[verbal steeple]

i like that sharp dart forces you to cling on a wall if it hits a wall

[lusty grove]

why would you bully that drug addict?

[brave geyser]

@last dew

[zealous blade]

idk

[lusty grove]

bully Fourth Chorus instead

[zealous blade]

for a vid

[balmy wraith]

final chorus

[lusty grove]

Fourth Chorus implies the existence of a First Chorus

which I assume is the one we bind to get the Architect Crest

which means it can be killed

[zealous blade]

nah its way fuunyer and faster to bully the adicted man

[balmy wraith]

they should add upgrades to all crests

and not just hunter

[zealous blade]

like a v2 for eny crest

[lusty grove]

like Hunter's Focus?
I think they added that cuz Hunter is the only one without a gimmick

[zealous blade]

exept hunter bc he has v3

[brave geyser]

nah i don't think any other crest needs an upgrade

[zealous blade]

i do think

[balmy wraith]

yes we need to make beast heal in rage mode untill you get hit

[brave geyser]

Maybe reaper but tbh that just means it needs a buff

[zealous blade]

THE BEAST ONE MY BELOVED

[brave geyser]

Beast is already too op.

[balmy wraith]

make architect craft bind take 5 silk

[lusty grove]

Reaper has the silk orbs, Beast has the rage, Wanderer has the crit, Architect has the craft bind, Witch has the damaging bind, Shaman has the stronger Silk Skills

[brave geyser]

Ah i see how it is

[lusty grove]

Hunter has the upgrades

[balmy wraith]

😔

[brave geyser]

In that case fuck you (respectfully :))

[zealous blade]

WHY not other crestes too?

[lusty grove]

cuz they already have gimmicks

Hunter's gimmick IS the upgrades

[zealous blade]

what about my beloved beat

[lusty grove]

that's like asking why the other crests don't have the craft bind

[zealous blade]

beast

[balmy wraith]

i cant find the witch crest flashbang

[lusty grove]

or why the other crests don't have a crit chance

[lusty grove]

it already has the rage

[icy crow]

What's Seth's top score in Juggle again?

[zealous blade]

wdym?

[balmy wraith]

make wanderer have 0 swing cooldown

[lusty grove]

Beast's gimmick is the rage you get after the bind

[zealous blade]

ik butlike 2 slots of blue+

[lusty grove]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-3134327606096542884

[brave geyser]

beast bind already has the effects of 4 tools.

[zealous blade]

like you will have 3 yello and 3 blue slots with the vesti crest

[brave geyser]

And on top of that you still get 2 red and tools and 1 blue from vesti

[zealous blade]

understandable

[balmy wraith]

i have it on favourite idk why it didnt appear

[lusty grove]

sometimes it just glitches

[zealous blade]

so yea

[brave geyser]

Quickslash
Long claw
Barbed bracelet without the double damage
Faster bind

[zealous blade]

byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[brave geyser]

byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[exotic field]

[lusty grove]

did you really forget Injector's Band's name

[brave geyser]

oh shit

[zealous blade]

BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[brave geyser]

Mf get out

[lusty grove]

get the fuck out already

[brave geyser]

Not typing allat

[zealous blade]

ok ok chill

[brave geyser]

ok

[zealous blade]

fr

[brave geyser]

bye

[steep jolt]

guys is this where i get flintslate

[balmy wraith]

i never unequip injector band and multibind

[brave geyser]

since when was slow mode 10 seconds

[balmy wraith]

i get carried by those two

[brave geyser]

Genuinely unlivable

[lusty grove]

Witch Crest user be like

[wary storm]

yes

[lusty grove]

wait fr wtf

[brave geyser]

correct area
Wrong path

[balmy wraith]

maybe i should use witch crest since i love those blue tool alot

[dapper hatch]

Shaw

[steep jolt]

where tf is it then 💔

[brave geyser]

Outside of the entrance go up then east into the next room. Then go up and west

[hearty wren]

Bro Witch crest is so hard for lost lace damn can't beat her been 1 hour

[graceful oyster]

Have you tried the YM tech?

[hearty wren]

I was doing every crest and witch is just impossible

[balmy wraith]

for some reason when i pogo using witch crest on lost lace i get hit

[warm jasper]

I FUCKING HATE GROALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[eager creek]

Crazy

[hearty wren]

That's the thing pogo has 2 strikes second one just shoves you into her that's the thing and you get hit

[brave geyser]

Mfs when i introduce them to voltvessels bola:

[icy crow]

Got the third Pale Oil

[hearty wren]

Wdym

[void moat]

https://giphy.com/gifs/goku-ssj4-dragonballdaima-olM0xeA2xfGJ9SKl2R

[graceful oyster]

YOUR MOM!!!!!!

[warm jasper]

what is voltvessels bola

[balmy wraith]

i think its cool visually but in functionality i hate it

[steep jolt]

i dont think my healthbar mod likes this fight

[icy crow]

It's a tool

[icy crow]

Each of them have their own health pools

[graceful oyster]

Most of Lace's attacks ignore iframes. Witch's pogo typically has a lot of frames but not with Lace!

[brave geyser]

Sigma is the one with 720

[warm jasper]

which tools should i use to ANNIHILATE groal i hate groal

[hearty wren]

The thing is healing is nearly impossible because her hit box is small and she just moves too much even beast was easier but witch is just so bad for her

[storm dagger]

Rip

[brave geyser]

Voltvessels (bola form) from memorium
Threefold pins/curveclaws

[warm jasper]

this is where i get benchwarp

[storm dagger]

Ball volt vessels, delvers drill, and plasmium phial all can do quite well

Plasmium phial moreso against the muckmaggot effect

[brave geyser]

You don't need architect either
Nor quicksling but it would be preferred

[warm jasper]

it is hell to get to delvers drill but ok

[brave geyser]

No need for delvers really

Voltvessels already do a fuckton of damage you don't even need that much more after you use them all

https://youtube.com/shorts/gP4S7rfi7yA?si=rUBC4DsbqPeYE0ih

Pollip pouch does fucking nothing so like maybe replace it for sawtooth

[icy crow]

Now that I've gotten Palesteel Needle I should go fight Plasmified Zango

[verbal steeple]

gonna try using barbed braclet unironically

[brave geyser]

You don't need to cro

[brave geyser]

It's peak absolute cinema just not on steel soul or exploration

It's wonderful for gauntlets surprisngly

As for bosses it purely depends on how good you are at them

[verbal steeple]

question is it like.

[warm jasper]

it cannot be that quick

[verbal steeple]

does it only work on needle damage or does it also affect silk skills. also i WILL be using it for exploration

[dusky bobcat]

Its great against void enemies as single hit attacks only deal 2 masks, but multihits deal 2 per hit

[brave geyser]

I personally tried it with a friend of mine
Groal genuienly lasted maximum 30 seconds

[verbal steeple]

because why not. if i can do a cursed crest run i can handle having bracelet equipped

[brave geyser]

it doesn't affect silk skills otherwise everyone would be using it.

[verbal steeple]

SHIT only needle?

[warm jasper]

are there healthy alternatives to threefold pins

[brave geyser]

Curveclaw

[verbal steeple]

dang.

[warm jasper]

k

[dusky bobcat]

yes, why do u think filament exists

[warm jasper]

where is memorium map

[verbal steeple]

unlike filament barbed bracelet doesn't make u take damage

[dusky bobcat]

like on tge right of the area

[verbal steeple]

also barbed bracelet should deff affect cross stitch fr fr fr

[brave geyser]

The room just below the path to saving jubilana again

[exotic fern]

challenge: get the speedrun achievement while watching this entire video the whole time. you are not allowed to beat the game before the video ends

[warm jasper]

is it possible to feed witch crest bind even more crack cocaine

[brave geyser]

iam a mobile player

[brave geyser]

Claw mirrors injector bands multi bind sawtooth circlet:

[eager creek]

I watch videos while playing games anyways, where's the challenge?

[warm jasper]

i gotta buy stuff from 12th i bought none from her

[void moat]

this video is genuinely shit btw

they ranked bell eater as the 8th strongest boss in the verse

[blissful junco]

i wanted to say another word starting with fore but ill prolly get banned

[warm jasper]

time to farm grand reeds for the map

[light swan]

wdym by more

[eager creek]

Man...

[brave geyser]

Most notably sawtooth and the crafting kit (obv)

[light swan]

what’s the baseline

[verbal steeple]

do u think fractured mask works really well with barbed bracelet

[brave geyser]

I banned it for a reason.

It would make shit too easy.

[kindred willow]

🙁

[blissful junco]

bell eater still one of the few bosses that got invincibility in some places

[brave geyser]

Personally though i am considering unbanning fractured mask and instead banning sawtooth

[kindred willow]

Bell Eater is so easy lol

What is the best tool of them all

[blissful junco]

bc bell beast carries

[dusky bobcat]

lol sawtooth is too powerful

[blissful junco]

compass

[warm jasper]

what does the multibinder do to witch bind

[eager creek]

Bell Beast killed Bell Eater, immediate scale, Bell Beast 7th strongest in verse confirmed

[brave geyser]

One more tentacle attack

[warm jasper]

does it do the life st

so
the tentacle does 63 dmg

you mean to tell me it does 63dmg twice

[dusky bobcat]

Nah, how bout spider strings

[grim widget]

I finished silksong yay (only in act 2 tho) :(

[brave geyser]

It just adds one more slap.

[verbal steeple]

reminder: garmond shows up in sinners road. and then he shows up in the citadel. this means that garmond went through the exhaust organ route

[feral spindle]

Shard pendant

[verbal steeple]

this is a subtle hint to the fact the phantom route is better than last judge

[grim widget]

That means he went through the mist…?

[warm jasper]

crahhyhhhh

[dusky bobcat]

no it does one needle’s worth of samage/ hit

[eager creek]

Magnetite dice cause I love gambling

[grim widget]

True

[blissful junco]

bell beast didnt recieve damage in the bossfight at all. she just wanted 50 pats

[grim widget]

The mist + sinners road is miles better than the underworks

Underworks is depressing af

[feral spindle]

These roaches make me depressed

[kindred willow]

I did the Nameless Town Parkour, is there anything else hard that is left

[verbal steeple]

i could do the mist.

[jolly bridge]

-# wonder why that is ?

[kindred willow]

Mist is great, even if just for the OST

[verbal steeple]

ORRR i could go open up deep docks and get flint slate and go and do act 1 mountfay

[dusky bobcat]

so it would deal 84 with just multibinder

[fleet zinc]

Seth

[verbal steeple]

and then go do the entirety of bile water in act 1 and get to the apostate key and beat first sinner all in act 1

[grim widget]

Fight groal in act 1

[kindred willow]

Already done

[graceful oyster]

Cool pfp

[fleet zinc]

The flea festival stuff?

[steep jolt]

is this where flintslate is?

[kindred willow]

Darnit, you're right

[fleet zinc]

Yeah

[feral spindle]

Thx

[graceful oyster]

Is it from something?

[dusky bobcat]

its in that area (deep docks)

[simple obsidian]

Mementos should be achievements

[feral spindle]

Deltarune

[graceful oyster]

Ah

Well

[steep jolt]

is there a way to check how many fleas you have

[graceful oyster]

It looks cool visually

[fleet zinc]

Count

[eager creek]

Count them

[graceful oyster]

Doesn't have to be from something cool I suppose

[brave geyser]

Where did you enter deep docks from

[dusky bobcat]

oh its the titan

[brave geyser]

If it's your first playthrough and you didn't get any achievements yet that's a way

[steep jolt]

choral chambers

[graceful oyster]

And yes this is shade towards deltarune

[brave geyser]

Like far fields or the simple key door.

[feral spindle]

I don't know about you but I think deltarune is cool

[steep jolt]

simple key

[exotic fern]

lace as the strongest character like she didnt get her ass beat on 3 separate occasions💔

[brave geyser]

Go to the next room east from there then go up and to the left

[light swan]

💀

[void moat]

ass beat by someone who explicitly ISNT the strongest character

[devout oak]

In what universe is lace the strongest character

[exotic fern]

realistically isnt the knight the strongest character since it became the shade lord

[steep jolt]

how to get flea?

[worthy lintel]

Modified Kahnn's cut death animation for my level editor

[devout oak]

Yes

[steep jolt]

in that case the shade lord would be strongest

[void moat]

crust goat khann

[timber tartan]

Why can’t me talk in vc I joined like 1 week ago

[exotic fern]

the knight IS the shade lord

[dusky bobcat]

go to the bellway and theres a secret path under the right ledge

[stable pilot]

Find a flea called vog

[steep jolt]

no its not every shade is the shade lord

[slim quest]

thats really cool lol

[eager creek]

?tag permpsa

[white sail]

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[stable pilot]

No, who has the void heart is the shade lord

[timber tartan]

A

[dusky bobcat]

no hes in far fields

[void moat]

tk controls all void, including their siblings, so theyre still the shade lord

[timber tartan]

I’ll spam dm then so I get the role

[stable pilot]

Uhh

[eager creek]

Don't do that bro

[stable pilot]

Find vog anyways

[fleet zinc]

Vog was my last flea

[stable pilot]

I was like "where is the equivalent to the collectors map?"

[icy crow]

Defeated Plasmified Zango

[stable pilot]

So I wikied it

[exotic fern]

i find it really funny how all the nonwomen in pale kings family tree are vertically challenged

[dusky bobcat]

funny considering u can buy flea locations from vog

[chrome canopy]

Should I start Act 3

[fleet zinc]

I went through blind so I didn’t know

[fleet zinc]

Depends on how much completion you’d like

Non%

[void moat]

the humble thk

[stable pilot]

Get every spool fragment and 9 masks

At least hive steel needle

Every flea

[chrome canopy]

Idk where any of that is but okay
I only have one mask shard left

[warm jasper]

BALLS OF DESPAIR AND AGONY acquired time for curveclaw

[exotic fern]

theyre only tall because the pale king loved them

[dusky bobcat]

make sure to do optional bosses