sk-discussion

[red tapir]

beast crest scares me

i have to be actually good at the game

[patent flower]

it's broken as all hell if you know what you're doing

it's fun to use

[wraith relic]

Wait, how to get 212% on silksong?? 🥀

[graceful oyster]

It's broken regardless of if you know what you're doing

[fading tree]

Steel soul

[wraith relic]

oh, it counts ?

[red tapir]

i prefer reaper and witch even though everhsone says reaper is dogshit

[fading tree]

I just combined the 2 because my username is so long

[upper sail]

I dont know how

[red tapir]

the only thing i have against witch is that sometimes the downpogo hit box is really weird

[upper sail]

But i just killed grandmother silk using purely gamer instinct

[zealous elk]

god i love this guys's thumbnails on silksong

[fading tree]

Turns out it’s pogo can be used for the organ quest to get shredded organs

[red tapir]

cuh-razy

[wraith relic]

Am i the only One that Always and only used reaper crest? except before unlocking it obviously

[fading tree]

I used it for my entire first play through

[upper sail]

I dodged 90% of her attacks blindly with nothing but gamer instinct

[red tapir]

i used it for my entire first tplaytjough until i realized that i actually liked witch

[wraith relic]

thats cuh-razy

[fading tree]

Yeah same until wanderers

[wraith relic]

i honestly hate witch

[red tapir]

her pin attack hit boxes are sooo good like u can get in between them and it feels so awesome

[wraith relic]

i dont like It at all

[red tapir]

that’s what i thought too until i realized the truth

[wraith relic]

yeah me too honestly

[red tapir]

i love not having to chose between heal and damage when i can just nuke my enemies and do both

[timid plinth]

tried it for a bit until i realized hunter is the one

[upper sail]

I was too locked in, didnt even notice, there could be a fricking hurricane right next door and i wouldnt notic bc i was too locked in

[timid plinth]

i switch it on sometimes whenever i needed a good pogo

[red tapir]

ppl that only used wanderers tho i feel like they played on easy mode

like any other crest please ….

[icy crow]

I should probably begin the exclusive Steel Soul wish now

[wraith relic]

i like reaper crest cuz it has the thing after you heal of the smol silk balls when you Attack enemies, and then to do more damage i Just put the tool that makes you do more damage of which i forgot the name

why It didnt answer to the msg

[wraith relic]

i wanted to reply to thus

this*

[timid plinth]

i never really cared for the silkballs, they never ever come to my way

[verbal steeple]

first sinner cursed crest complete

[red tapir]

i wish u would just get extra silk instead of the floating silk balls because 99% of the time i can’t get to them because im either too busy fighting or they are fifteen miles into the air

[verbal steeple]

took me 3 tries

[wraith relic]

i kinda am used to It now ngl

[icy crow]

Her

[red tapir]

peak boss

[wraith relic]

btw you can get them with the nail too

[red tapir]

U CAN??

[wraith relic]

like with the attack

[red tapir]

bro what have i been doing

[wraith relic]

yes

[tiny geyser]

Where is this enemy?

[graceful oyster]

Silksong

[wraith relic]

told you reaper crest is the One 🗣️

[timid plinth]

squirm i think

[fading tree]

Secret room above blasted steps bell beast

[red tapir]

irs in blasted steps it’s a baby judge

[tiny geyser]

Ok

[fading tree]

Needolin

[tiny geyser]

Baby

[icy crow]

Very well

[wraith relic]

use the needolin to wake them up and then kill them

[timid plinth]

infanticide in the game

[fading tree]

“There’s too many of them, whatever shall we do”

[timid plinth]

actually hk had it too tbf

[fading tree]

Where??

[timid plinth]

the whole abyss area

[fading tree]

Ohhh right

[royal mason]

Weaversong but better

Cogflies is Weaversong but it actually does more damage

[hexed sigil]

The pale king was pulling off a dumpster baby prom every second

[fading tree]

You need like 5 silk bars

At the very least

[tiny geyser]

Nvm got it

[verbal steeple]

HOLD ON A SECOND

everytime i talk to creige he keeps telling me to go to yarnaby

[storm shard]

Guys. I’m so hungry for pharloom bay.

[brave geyser]

I hate cogflies honestly

[verbal steeple]

can i not get the vintage nectar???

[brave geyser]

and not because they are "too broken"

They mess me up so bad

[verbal steeple]

i really hope i'm not softlocked from vintage nectar because of cursed crest

gonna go get the other items and check if creige still tells me to check on yarnaby

[tiny geyser]

Where's this enemy?

[brave geyser]

Vaultborns i think

Act 3 whispering vaults

[tiny geyser]

Ok

[brave geyser]

There's an entire gauntlet with them iirc

[unkempt steeple]

Second time ever beating lost lace yeahhh, idk why but she still takes me like three tries for some reason

[tiny geyser]

Oh ok

[unkempt steeple]

There's a secret room to awaken them

[fading tree]

First play through it took me 25 attempts. Next was only on my second try

[red tapir]

might be the fat bell guys

[brave geyser]

They automatically activate in act 3

[unkempt steeple]

I had no idea

[brave geyser]

that's fine

[cobalt pilot]

Any oomfs in chat

Bon are you there

[elfin sand]

you can?!

[elfin sand]

Can i be new oomf

[tiny geyser]

Oh dang theyre everywhere

[cobalt pilot]

No I don't know you

[unkempt steeple]

Me with karmelita

[elfin sand]

Thats why it was a request

[unkempt steeple]

She took me like 10 something tries but I just beat her first try an hour ago

[red tapir]

last judge on my first plythrough lowkey had me tweaking out

i got so good at the run back

[verbal steeple]

it needs some very specific skips and stuff but it is possible. tho very hard

[fading tree]

Ironically that is me with like 99% of bosses in other games

[elfin sand]

fawwwwwk

[verbal steeple]

chef lugoli cursed crest first try

[slim thorn]

the runback with all the movement upgrades is so cool with all the pogos on the bg stuff

[red tapir]

their name is ass jim

[unkempt steeple]

Now I gotta complete the journal and try the sysiphian punishment that is seph's memento

[icy crow]

I can go fight Summoned Saviour now

[wraith relic]

cursed crest run is crazy

[fading tree]

Lowk SS is a very easy boss

[icy crow]

I'm gonna fight it toolless

[verbal steeple]

tho it might be impossible to get vintage nectar it seems because of it LMAO

[unkempt steeple]

Why

[slim thorn]

have you fought it before?

[wraith relic]

oh 💔

[icy crow]

I thought the wish would take longer but it is very short lol

[cobalt pilot]

I can't be oomfs without some backstory but thanks anyway

[icy crow]

No, it's gonna be my first attempt ever

[unkempt steeple]

Thank god

[red tapir]

cuz criegr will be too busy telling you you are sick to offer the nectar

[unkempt steeple]

Imagine throwing a hard boss at you out of nowhere in the middle of a steel soul run

[elfin sand]

Motherfucker i am not built for this place fym backstory am i seriously in need of lore

[fading tree]

Like I did it on my first attempt

[slim thorn]

well then toolless sounds kinda of a death sentence but you do you

[red tapir]

i lowkey do not use red tools

i forget they’re there

[icy crow]

I heard it is easy anyway

[unkempt steeple]

Same

[elfin sand]

Shaman propaganda

[tiny geyser]

Where's this enemy?

[unkempt steeple]

I only use cogflies for free damage

[wraith relic]

me neither, im used to use nail only from hk

[elfin sand]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hornet-hornet-hollow-knight-git-gud-cog-fly-gif-4609331479861715829

[red tapir]

the only one i use is pimpilli because boom

[unkempt steeple]

Oh fuck I still have to get one memory locket too

[bitter briar]

Chicken

[wraith relic]

when you deztroy plasmium hearts 2 of these drop down

[slim thorn]

yes but not knowing what you are getting into can be a big problem

[tiny geyser]

Ok

[torn token]

Does charging architects pogo deal more damage than standard pogos?

[wraith relic]

in wormsats

[unkempt steeple]

I prefer tools but jesus christ the charm notch system was so much better than memory lockets

[wraith relic]

ways*

[tiny geyser]

Lifeblood seedlings Aah

[red tapir]

i disagree

[torn token]

Then what does charging architects pogo do?

[bitter briar]

Tools are much more creative than charms

[wraith relic]

literally lol

[slim thorn]

delay i guess?

[bitter briar]

Makes it go farther

Same with dash

[void moat]

more damage i think

[silk pumice]

Tools are more creative, charms have more potential

[unkempt steeple]

Tools have the benefit of hindsight bc alot of charms are either too experimental or broken

[bitter briar]

Everyone only uses one Meta charm build in og hk

[red tapir]

i like how they make you be careful about what u use your lockets on

[icy crow]

He was literally just a Dark Heart but capable of dashing lmfao

[bitter briar]

Tools make the game more innovative because you can switch up your playstyle

[icy crow]

Easy as hell

[unkempt steeple]

Thry really thought someone would use FLUKENEST

[red tapir]

isnt flukenest actually broken

[bitter briar]

Oh boy

[earnest drift]

the charm system was kind of awful

[bitter briar]

Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy

[lament blade]

yo i found widow lowk a fun boss

[torn token]

Just got told it doesnt do more damage

[wraith relic]

i do

[verbal steeple]

yup. because i'm cursed. i can't get vintage nectar.

[bitter briar]

Someone has not seen flukenest to its fullest potential

[torn token]

Im getting extremely mixed signals

[verbal steeple]

didn't realize that being cursed would stop me from getting VINTAGE NECTAR

[wraith relic]

i did and its very powerful

[verbal steeple]

like jeez

[red tapir]

fluke est and poop charm i s tbe most meta charm build ppl just dont know it yet

[torn token]

Doesn't standard flukenest deal more damage?

[bitter briar]

Every speed runner uses flukenest to do pantheons for a reason

[tiny geyser]

These are my last 3 enemies, anyone know where to find them?

[unkempt steeple]

I used the poop charm for most of the first playthrough bc my build during my entire first playthrough was just whatever costs the least notches

[icy crow]

Yeah he was unironically easy

[red tapir]

i am /j ing

[torn token]

I see

[bitter briar]

Full poop build is best build in hk trust

[torn token]

Barbed bracelet is the best tool in sk

[unkempt steeple]

They should bring back defender's crest

[icy crow]

Enemies from the Surface climb

[tiny geyser]

Ok

[icy crow]

Have you gotten all mementos?

[tiny geyser]

No

[unkempt steeple]

There's one up there

[tiny geyser]

Do I need Mr Mushroom?

[icy crow]

Surface climb has one of them. Just climb and murder them on the way

[torn token]

Im missing ONE memento

[tiny geyser]

Ok

[icy crow]

Only for the achievement, he doesn't give a memento

[torn token]

Surface has 3

[tiny geyser]

Ok

[unkempt steeple]

No but it's best cuz you permantly enable the mr mushroom ending

[tiny geyser]

Ok

Where is Mr Mushroom

[icy crow]

I was talking about mementos

[torn token]

Oh

[icy crow]

Have you gotten his wish yet

[tiny geyser]

No

[unkempt steeple]

Oh wait I'm missing a tool bc I have one craftmetal left

[verbal steeple]

SO.

[red tapir]

surface enemies i believe

[icy crow]

Go to Putrified Ducts past Fleatopia and look for a hole in the ceiling

[verbal steeple]

BECAUSE u can't get vintage nectar if you're cursed

[tiny geyser]

Ok

[verbal steeple]

i am FORCED to NOT being able to complete the great taste of pharloom questr

which means i will be forced to have ONE less upgrade on my needle

this cursed crest run is killing me man

[earnest drift]

wait why not

[red tapir]

lol

[torn token]

Can I just say that drilltect is rlly fun?

[verbal steeple]

creige keeps telling u to go to yarnaby

[verbal steeple]

u literally cannot get the vintage nectar dialog

[red tapir]

no ur not allowed to have fun

[torn token]

:(

[tiny geyser]

Idk if this makes me weird but I use Multi binding + Quick Bind

[cobalt pilot]

Yes 🥹❤️

[red tapir]

me too…

[verbal steeple]

lots of people do it

[icy crow]

Summoned Saviour is literally just a Void Mass: Dashing Edition. I'm disappointed

[tiny geyser]

Oh

[tiny geyser]

It makes u immune to muckmaggots

[elfin sand]

Im ben, i like deer, I love elden ring thats my lore

[red tapir]

well it would be a pretty big dick move to make a hard boss exclusive to steel soul mode a complete surprise

[worldly valve]

well they couldn't make it too hard

[icy crow]

Not exactly immune but allows you to bind out the maggots and heal after

[tiny geyser]

Yea

[red tapir]

funny maybe but if i lost my run to it i would tweak out

[torn token]

It would not be nice to make the exclusive steel soul boss hard

[icy crow]

I was expecting completely unique attacks of its own other than the dashing

[lament blade]

why tf did widow js pull a soul master

[worldly valve]

wait until you get to the cage

[torn token]

Because she hates everyone

[red tapir]

because in canon widow and soul master are the same but don’t tell anyone i told you

[icy crow]

At least make it not be a floating Void Mass lmao

[storm dagger]

I didn't expect him to have cursed Dialogue ngl

[tiny geyser]

This guy has the longest quest I've ever seen, although I think I know where the first one is

[torn token]

I never got to the citadel in my steel soul run :(

[red tapir]

fair, but at least to me if i get surprised by a boss like that i would somehow manage to throw if it was even slightly hard with unique attacks

[storm dagger]

I lost mine to moorwing recently without getting plasmium phial I desired, it's such sad

[torn token]

I died in the underworks

[verbal steeple]

creige is the one who points you towards yarnaby

[storm dagger]

Rip

[icy crow]

Could've skipped it

[tiny geyser]

Imagine dying on GMS in steel soul

[torn token]

I KNOW

[verbal steeple]

pavo tells u to go to creige and creige tells u about yarnaby

[torn token]

DONT REMIND ME

[regal isle]

its pretty easy to tell which general location mr mushrooms in

[tiny geyser]

Ye

[icy crow]

I intentionally skipped Underworks at first because I knew there would be a shitty gauntlet

[summer lava]

s

k

[regal isle]

unlike in the first game where u went searchin far n wide

[torn token]

I didn't know you could skip it at 1st

[red tapir]

i did gns steel soul cursed cuz i didn’t get it n my first run and i almost died like five times

[ivory halo]

what’s wrong with the gauntlet?

[icy crow]

And checking the lore tablet every time just to remember

[tiny geyser]

Dude the first game he just said smth like "I see grass" and left

[torn token]

What's NOT wrong with the gauntlet

[summer lava]

d

[ivory halo]

i don’t even remember it i beat it first try 🤷‍♂️

[icy crow]

It's literally a gauntlet with enemies capable of double damage while you only have six masks

[torn token]

:(

[storm dagger]

I thought Pavo tells you to go to the bell hermit tho

[verbal steeple]

maybe?

[stable pilot]

Steel soul?

[verbal steeple]

either pav or the bellhermit tell u to go to creige

[icy crow]

I mean, Summoned Saviour doesn't even have 1k health either (if barely), so I think it having unique attacks would be a fair go-to

[torn token]

Ye

[red tapir]

witch in d tier im in your walls

[icy crow]

It actually has only 500 health lol

[stable pilot]

Based on personal bias, this is almost correct

[icy crow]

Time to get back to Zi

[stable pilot]

Just swap hunters with wanderers, and witch with shaman

[storm dagger]

I think the hermit tells you to go to creige, I don't remember cuz I didn't talk to him last time

[torn token]

Witch just isn't good imo

[stable pilot]

Why didn't you go through the mist

[red tapir]

have u tried nuke build

[ivory halo]

wanderer in A tier wtf? i beat the entire game tool-less on wanderer cos i didn’t feel like learning em

[torn token]

Fuck no

[torn token]

Is this a bad thing?

[storm dagger]

It's so easy, just pogo them wraiths then it's gg for them

[ivory halo]

wanderer is S tier

[torn token]

No, it's ability doesnt go off enough

[ivory halo]

being able to just face tank while dealing endless nail damage is S+

[torn token]

Plus it's not on par with shaman nor beast

[bitter briar]

Witch in d is insane

[storm dagger]

I think witch is cool

[storm dagger]

Fr

[bitter briar]

Illusion would not be proud

[hexed sigil]

Is the guy who made this back or?

[ivory halo]

you’re right they’re both B tier

[bitter briar]

Kroal?

Idk bout him

He hasn’t been talking a lot

[tiny geyser]

Guys is Mister Mushroom 2nd clue Pilgrims rest or Songclave?

[torn token]

They both really so much more damage than Wanderer 💔

[stable pilot]

It's safer

[lament blade]

widows runback at shellwood is stupidly easy if you start from the mantis claw bind spot

[stable pilot]

Being able to pogo without delay makes it the best crest for mr

[torn token]

I just get swarmed by wraiths that camp the entrance

[stable pilot]

The attack speed is just a bonus

[storm dagger]

It's the top left meant to be lace or what

[stable pilot]

Fractured mask, more masks, etc

[icy crow]

Does the Growstone give percentage?

[stable pilot]

Although last judge is fine if you use magma bell

[torn token]

Why would I go through all that?

[stable pilot]

That's not a smart question, but no

[stable pilot]

Steel heart

[storm dagger]

A memory locket and cool silk skill

[red tapir]

literally just walk forward until u aggro one and kill it, and slowly move forward until u aggro the next. if while ur killing it u aggro another that’s kinda on you

[stable pilot]

Wouldn't make sense if a percentage is locked behind steel soul

[torn token]

They respawn gng

[simple siren]

guys

[hexed sigil]

Didn't he got Perma banned

[torn token]

And alot of times they end up respawning on top of me

[prisma jolt]

any advice on wanderer crest build in silksong? specifically the red tool I should use, and what yellow tools to use, aside from silkspeed anklets

[torn token]

Wait what happened?

[inland edge]

Citadel is the best area location in video games history. Debate me

[red tapir]

i always go thru the mist super slowly and literally never had to deal with respawns, why are you backtracking to begin with?

[simple siren]

i was trying the big ant ant mind gaunlet AND SHE JUMPED INTO THE ARENA

[red tapir]

have u been to bilewayer yet? i think that will change ur mind

[simple siren]

HELP, SHE WILL KILL ME

[torn token]

Im not backtracking and once again that's the advantage with going through the mist?

[stable pilot]

Who's she

[simple siren]

KARMELITA

[ivory halo]

ikr i went the wrong way up the high halls gauntlet spike parkour section it’s fun

[torn token]

An overrated silk skill and...

[storm dagger]

Heh

[keen solstice]

it should be lower if anything

[keen solstice]

beast does that far better, lol

[ivory halo]

nah lower shaman and beast to C tier and wanderer to S with hunter

[regal isle]

nightmare blunt

[red tapir]

because phantom is light asf and parry is super good

[torn token]

We can finally agree on smth

[keen solstice]

no?

[simple siren]

"yea bro, this was so easy, wait WHAT THE FUCK"

[stable pilot]

Also why are you scared? You have literally nothing to lose @simple siren

[icy crow]

I mean... it can literally replace any tool

[keen solstice]

shaman is literally the 2nd highest damagin crest in the game only beaten by architect

[ivory halo]

yes because i said so shut up

[keen solstice]

beast is quite literally wanderer but better

[simple siren]

IMM AT 1 HP

[stable pilot]

Yeah but it isn't a tool

[radiant laurel]

What if Bell Eater is a male and Bell Beast is a female, and they mated and that’s where the Beastlings come from, and the fight is because they’re a species where the female eats the male after mating? I.e. like Divine and Grimm

[regal isle]

horrendous pogo sadly

[winter moss]

okay so like the radiance looks a lot like a silk moth and the second hk game is silksong is this a coincidence probably is this cool probably

[storm dagger]

Just win

[icy crow]

Ah, makes sense

[simple siren]

WITH 1 HP?

[stable pilot]

Also sorry I was kinda rude

[storm dagger]

Yes.

[ivory halo]

the beast crest won’t sleep with u dog

[red tapir]

wrong

[winter moss]

i think either that or bell beast can reproduce asexually

[storm dagger]

Go on, it'll be fine

[simple siren]

IM DOOMED, FRIED, COOKED, SMASHED

[torn token]

He's not wrong...

[radiant laurel]

or there are multiple that you can’t tell apart

[keen solstice]

hunter has a delayless pogo, same with shaman, both pogos being better than wanderers

[torn token]

Plus beast has farther range

[radiant laurel]

or she was already pregnant before the game started

[icy crow]

It's time to fight Shakra and stop for today

[simple siren]

thats lwk a peak ost

[red tapir]

i think this is most likely

[keen solstice]

why would it? im just saying the truth

[ivory halo]

this is wrong

[red tapir]

seeing the little beast babies was sooo cute tho

[storm dagger]

Not a lot of room when you said wanderer was S+ tier

[bitter briar]

Idk

[winter moss]

maybe the one you fought in the marrow was the dad?

[winter moss]

bell beast

[keen solstice]

beast is THE facetanking crest while rivaling hunter at needle dps both being the highest needle dps

[red tapir]

they’re the same bell beast

[keen solstice]

it's not. lol

[torn token]

There is no delay less pogo,

[ivory halo]

wanderer best because i said so mmkay? it’s the fun crest

[torn token]

There's just some pogos that have a REALLY small delay

[keen solstice]

the fun crest is witch.

[red tapir]

I LOVE WTICH

[keen solstice]

wanderer is just boring, but not to the level of architect or beast

[storm dagger]

There's no fun in winning so easily

[torn token]

Witch is the biggest hit or miss

[winter moss]

EXACTLY

[torn token]

U either land smth perfectly or u get stuck with the dash and die a horrendous death

[bitter briar]

Wanderer and fun in the same sentence without a not in the middle ok

[simple siren]

thats such a good part

[red tapir]

for me it’s the pogo, dash attack never does me wrong

[torn token]

(speaking from experience with LL)

[bitter briar]

Executed

[simple siren]

pak

[winter moss]

yes

[ivory halo]

damn yea let me just pick a crest with a less precise move set because this guy wants it to be artificially harder for no reason

[untold nacelle]

One of the best bosses in the game (Her theme song is also good)

[icy crow]

It's the most generic slop crest ever

[torn token]

If u dash attack LL when she parries it's a guaranteed hit

[keen solstice]

playing wanderer is making the game harder actually, since it performs worse than other options

[simple siren]

heavent beaten her

[keen solstice]

[chrome canopy]

WHY ARE ALL THE FLEAS IN THE WALLS

[dusky bobcat]

wanderer is not not fun.

[icy crow]

Wanderer may be practically the same as the Knight's moveset but it's still the most generic out of all other crests

[red tapir]

i don’t think that’s true, i feel like i’ve dashed attacked into her parry and not gotten hit

[bitter briar]

[red tapir]

but like also i have no proof so

[torn token]

Fr? I always get stuck on her

[storm dagger]

What artificial difficulty are we talking about here breh

[dusky bobcat]

true but i love my quick slash

[ivory halo]

wanderer is supreme

[keen solstice]

the only crest that doesnt beat wanderer is reaper

but reaper has 2 red slots so who knows

[icy crow]

Everyone always use the "Quick Slash" argument lmfao

[winter moss]

reaper is fine

[torn token]

U know it's bad when this guy says your crest could be out damaged by reaper 💔

[red tapir]

i feel like LL is just hard with witch in general, but it can be pretty fun when u do it right

[bitter briar]

Reaper is meh

[keen solstice]

reaper is dead in a ditch and needs a buff

[ivory halo]

highest dps wdym

[simple siren]

for begginers

[bitter briar]

Chaining beast pogos is the best feeling

[dusky bobcat]

i also have done lost lace with every crest damageless to beat the allegations

[verbal steeple]

time to fight voltvyrm with cursed crest

[keen solstice]

uh
wanderer is the 2nd lowest dps, lol

[red tapir]

no… i love reaper… 💔

[winter moss]

yea

[ivory halo]

no?

[red tapir]

worst boss

[verbal steeple]

did u do it with cursed crest?

[keen solstice]

3rd in needle dps
has no gimmick
1 red slot

[torn token]

This is just false

[chrome canopy]

I user wanderer because it's fast and "exact"
that's like
it
I like hunter and witch/cursed too

[bitter briar]

Mehieddin u know what im talking abt

[earnest drift]

where does all this wanderer has the highest dps stuff come from

[winter moss]

i cant believe its considered a boss tbh

[bitter briar]

It’s gas

[icy crow]

"It's from my own gameplay experience"

[earnest drift]

I see it so often

[dusky bobcat]

unfortunately the devs foresaw my masochism and said “no”

[red tapir]

it has potential but it’s so buns

[torn token]

They forget they are not talking about NEEDLE

[verbal steeple]

i'm doing a cursed crest run and i keep figuring out stuff i can't do because of me being cursed

[simple siren]

nail dps is not everything, and beast healing does more dps

[night ruin]

The person under this is banned from playing sea of sorrow

[keen solstice]

yes?
it's lack of a gimmick and only has a single red slot makes it fall off hard compared to other options, not to mention it's only 3rd in needle dps. behind hunter and beast, and rivaling witch needle dps

[red tapir]

when i saw it i was like oh this is gonna be sick and then it immediately died

[torn token]

And even then it's not highest so ifk

[ivory halo]

Hunter (with max no-hit bonus): 69.4 / +36%
Wanderer: 68.3 / +34%
Beast (no buff): 52.4 / +0%
Hunter (no bonus): 50.9 / +0%
Architect: 50.2 / +0%
Witch: 45.7 / -10%
Reaper: 41.6 / -18%
Shaman: 41.5 / -18%

[verbal steeple]

FOR SOME REASON team cherry made it IMPOSSIBLE for u to get vintage brew thing when you're CURSED

[ivory halo]

i don’t use red slots ever

[earnest drift]

hunter is +50%

[dusky bobcat]

they dont let you take on lost lace with curse in vanilla

[verbal steeple]

and it will stop me from getting a pale oil in my cursed crest run

[red tapir]

ur really hung up on this aren’t you

[torn token]

These are NEEDLE NUMBERS

[verbal steeple]

yeah i know.

[night ruin]

Am I interrupting something

[ivory halo]

ye i use needle only

[icy crow]

All this crestslop argument is pointless by the way

[keen solstice]

bro removed the beast buff from the list
and that list isold, hunter got buffed, it now rivals beast

[dusky bobcat]

Dps arguments with wanderer mains

[verbal steeple]

YES. Cursed crest LITERALLY stops u from doing sooo much shit and team cherry is ALSO limiting my needle damage now

[torn token]

Then your genuinely handicapping yourself to prove a point 💔

[rocky jolt]

when im playing silksong and a dude start talking about sum ''dps'' and ''optimal playstyle''

[keen solstice]

hunter and beast do 10+ more dps than wanderer

[verbal steeple]

it's almost like the game wasn't designed to be played with cursed crest

[simple siren]

i mean, shaman has no red slots but it's a fucking atomic bomb so

[winter moss]

tbh i have no idea theres like four different conversations going on

[storm dagger]

Sadly

[red tapir]

because it wasn’t?

[dusky bobcat]

only in specific states

[ivory halo]

nah i don’t enjoy learning the tools or silk skills so i just wing it

[spark anchor]

What red tools are you using with shaman other than phial

[keen solstice]

no red slots but lets give it 40% dmg boost to silk skills while being able to have 3 silk skills

[spark anchor]

Kill the enemy faster than they can kill you

[night ruin]

Such is the way of channels this big

[verbal steeple]

SHHHH

[torn token]

Yes but hunter has 2 red tools slots

[night ruin]

How’s everybody doin

[dusky bobcat]

??? Shaman has no red toolslots

[storm dagger]

Meh, hbu

[keen solstice]

beast is in said state 96% of the fight and hunter wants you to get good

[simple siren]

the 3 silk skills are so flexible at bosses

[spark anchor]

If you were anle to

[night ruin]

Same

[torn token]

W h a t

[wooden laurel]

There’s not enough crest discourse so reaper crest

[winter moss]

i have no idea hbu

[spark anchor]

Let’s say hypothetically shaman crest had an offshoot red slot

[red tapir]

i’m wonderful

[timid plinth]

ew

[storm dagger]

Which one... The needle phial or the plasmium phial

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/zoh-shia-mh-monster-hunter-gif-7472562376384326514

[spark anchor]

Needle phial obv

[night ruin]

You don’t know how your doin? Kinda real

[night ruin]

Zoh Shia…

[simple siren]

that would be too op

[stable pilot]

Hunter has a delay wdym?

[red tapir]

i’m sad that the side slots that u get when u are upgraded by eva doesn’t have red slot

[torn token]

I can speak from experience this guy really hates reaper

[storm dagger]

I knew it, a person of culture

[red tapir]

arch tempered zoh shia when

[ivory halo]

reaper is just a chinese knockoff of wanderer

[night ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/zainenthusiast-rm-namjoon-unbothered-namjoon-namjoon-car-window-gif-10670027104798720423

[timid plinth]

wanderer is the only one with an almost instantaneous pogo

[dusky bobcat]

i love needle phial

[night ruin]

Playing reaper be like

[torn token]

Holy ragebait

[keen solstice]

shaman:

[simple siren]

a crest worse than the 2nd worst

[red tapir]

it’s working on me

[winter moss]

me who only uses hunters

[cobalt pilot]

Not what I meant but I appreciate the effort

[keen solstice]

shaman's pogo is literally a better wanderer pogo

[torn token]

Don't

[ivory halo]

the best vs the worst

[bitter briar]

Ok woah

[night ruin]

Reaper good asf when there isn’t a nerd in your ear crying about dps

[bitter briar]

That seems a lil racist

[red tapir]

so true

[simple siren]

the worst vs the worst

[ivory halo]

thanks for noticing 🙏

[winter moss]

lmao

[stable pilot]

And shaman, but shaman is wonky

[torn token]

Reapers only redeeming quality is it's the best for parkour

[rocky jolt]

ahem beast users

[bitter briar]

Did u just admit to being racist

[stable pilot]

It's a pain for me on Speedrun achievement

[simple siren]

the report of doom and dispair

[stable pilot]

That's xenophobic

[keen solstice]

reaper and wanderer users fighting over which crest is the best(they're both at the bottom in performance)

[icy crow]

Should we just get moderators here and murder all newgens

[red tapir]

i want to try beast crest only playthrough to get over my beast crest hatred but idk

[stable pilot]

Not racist

[ivory halo]

i admitted to that label being overused and losing all value

[simple siren]

im a shaman main

[stable pilot]

What did I do

[torn token]

Granted reaper wasn't really combat focused in the 1st place

[night ruin]

0 days since something racist happened in skdisc

[bitter briar]

U just literally said something offensive to Chinese people

U called something a Chinese knock off

[night ruin]

Alright back to baldurs gate

[bitter briar]

R u assuming every Chinese product is a knock off

[raw pawn]

You can skip khann for 100% right? I am trying to get the speed completion achievement

[tepid mist]

pluh

[ivory halo]

brother what in the reach

[red tapir]

ur falling for the rage bait

[simple siren]

MODS, crush his skull

[icy crow]

You'd have to get the Conjoined Heart over its place but yeah

[stable pilot]

I think that's not xenophobic towards the people, more like xenophobic towards the country itself
Which is as bad

[night ruin]

Why not just answer the question

[ivory halo]

tf that’s bullying

[raw pawn]

Would take less time ngl

[icy crow]

Ah yes I love when randoms start being assholes

[storm dagger]

Don't kill me

[night ruin]

And move on

[simple siren]

first of all, IT'S NOT

[night ruin]

Retaliation just drags it out

[red tapir]

u better hide

[wooden laurel]

Mods,hang an anvil over this guys head and drop it on him to squish him

[ivory halo]

i’m not assuming every chinese product is a knockoff but they’re notorious for copying things often to inferior quality

[icy crow]

If you've gotten the 5h speedrun achievement you pretty much have all the time in the world to speedrun stuff. How many hours in your save file?

[red tapir]

i’ll protect u newgen get behind me

[dusky bobcat]

the one that felt the worst to best handling to me during the ll damageless was def reaper, then architect (no red tool bs), then beast, because i am not gud on that pogo, then witch (needs no explanation) then wanderer, then hunter, then shaman.

[raw pawn]

Let's kill all humans actually (I am not a human I am a chess piece trust)

[simple siren]

define bullying

[ivory halo]

being a meany pants 🙁

[tiny geyser]

Is the 2nd mister mushroom quest in Songclave?

[icy crow]

I am a being made of stardust therefore I am not a member of the Homo Sapiens species

[icy crow]

No

[red tapir]

i always follow the wr speedrun since the route they take is generally fastest for the average player

[tiny geyser]

Pilgrim rest?

[stable pilot]

Can you do speed completionist in the save file as the speed run achievement?

[icy crow]

What does it say?

[simple siren]

then, im not bullying u

[dusky bobcat]

If i had to guess itd be in the remains of bone bottom

[icy crow]

You can do both 5h and 30h speedruns in the same file

[stable pilot]

W

[tiny geyser]

Above the camp collapsed to the black thread

[storm dagger]

I'm innocentt

[ivory halo]

requesting murder of another person is a type of bullying

[stable pilot]

Now I need to do steel soul and steel heart next

[raw pawn]

I honestly closed the PC and don't wanna open it again lol

[dull ermine]

there isn't even anything good about the reaper crest for exploration either

[simple siren]

this dont kill the fact u did a xenophobic joke.

[icy crow]

Yes, he's near Bone Bottom, just above it

Pretty much where Shakra used to be iirc

[tiny geyser]

Bone bottom?

[simple siren]

bro can't understand humor

[ivory halo]

brother you’re wilding rn

[last dew]

it is good for bind heavy sustain forward bosses

[storm dagger]

Pretty sure that's exactly where

[tiny geyser]

Same place as the first

[simple siren]

YOU are wilding

[stable pilot]

Then what is it made to?

[simple siren]

parkour

[icy crow]

No, Bone Bottom is the second place to find him

[raw pawn]

PINSTRESS HAS A NOSE

[night ruin]

Just say mb

[icy crow]

Moss Grotto is the first

[stable pilot]

That's wanderers

[dusky bobcat]

child i banish thee to the flea games

[winter moss]

yea

[simple siren]

WAIT WHAT

[icy crow]

@last dew

[last dew]

@icy crow

[tepid mist]

Yes

[tiny geyser]

Oh

[stable pilot]

We know
She's iselda in disguise

[icy crow]

👀 👋

[stable pilot]

Iselda is actually a higher being

[dull ermine]

ngl healing not worth it in silksong

[stable pilot]

Thus she can live a lot

[dull ermine]

if you start using skills the boss will die before you need to heal

[regal isle]

wrong cornifer is a higher being by being able to pull a baddie like her

[simple siren]

then, teach begginers basic stuff

[icy crow]

Tomorrow I'll get the Architect's Melody then I'll deliver the Liquid Lacquer

[torn token]

I will not be explaining

[last dew]

well i'm talking about casual players 🙂‍↕️

[dusky bobcat]

witch mains would argue otherwise

[stable pilot]

Hmmm

[icy crow]

First Sinner at D? What horrors have you seen?

[stable pilot]

Yeah true

[dull ermine]

even then reapers is garbage for pros and casuals

[red tapir]

yes yoy will, last sinner and pinstress??

how are they lower than the watcher

[simple siren]

even for begginers

[torn token]

[dusky bobcat]

why tf is first sinner in D tier

[stable pilot]

I think hunter's is better

[keen solstice]

Reaper is a straight downgrade to base hunter lol

[torn token]

Uh oh

[simple siren]

bc it is

[dull ermine]

first sinner is crazy overrated, easy asf fight and not that interesting mechanically since she's just a "harder" widow

[stable pilot]

Lace is way too low

[ivory halo]

reaper is popular because it feels like hk as an initial impression tbh

[torn token]

That's what your concerned about?

[simple siren]

when u get needolin theres no reason to use reaper

[stable pilot]

Yes

[storm dagger]

Who's disgraced chef lugoli? these new characters people make up now a days...

[red tapir]

u could make the same argument for sisters of battle and yet everyone thinks it’s peak

[dull ermine]

sisters of battle is a hella easy fight icl, its also overrated

[dusky bobcat]

I actually agree with this

[torn token]

THANK YOU

[icy crow]

I can agree she's basically a Widow 2.0 but I would not call her easy, rather moderate

[ivory halo]

wait how does needolin have anything to do with crests

[simple siren]

witch at D is WILD

[stable pilot]

Once you get wanderers, there's no reason to use any other crest (personal bias)

[torn token]

Its based on my LL attempts

[stable pilot]

Actually you should use architect to do the huntress quest

[dusky bobcat]

fair

[dull ermine]

I fought her lost lace so it's probably not fair

[simple siren]

u can upgrade hunter that is MUCH better

[torn token]

Witch SUCKS against LL

[bitter briar]

Gaster

[storm dagger]

Idk about that one

[leaden delta]

and people do make this argument. sob is very overrated that shit gets grimmdrome kinda fast

[simple siren]

there is

[stable pilot]

The charged attack gives the meat thing

[keen solstice]

Skill issue
It works quite well against ll

[torn token]

:(

[dull ermine]

icl the red tool slot is huge negative, but the quickslash component makes up for it

[vivid raptor]

Oh boy, man I've done a lot today

[bitter briar]

Beast works really well against ll

[keen solstice]

It does not

[stable pilot]

You should absolutely not pogo her thrusting attack

[bitter briar]

Most fun I’ve had playing a crest

[ivory halo]

@simple siren what’s ella della

[torn token]

Im gonna no hit LL with witch just to prove it's not based on skill

[stable pilot]

Ngl I don't use red tools at all

[red tapir]

i’ve heard nothing but praise for sob

[simple siren]

she/her

[keen solstice]

I always pogo her thrusting attack with beast
Did u mean her triple slash?

[bitter briar]

Mantis lords but better

[tiny marlin]

very true

[dusky bobcat]

there are heal windows during triple dash, lost moulinet, stagger, void blobs, and void projectiles if you bring warding bell

[stable pilot]

Why the double l

[stable pilot]

With witch

[tiny marlin]

like how i barely use spells in hk

[torn token]

Heal?

[vivid raptor]

WHY IS MOORWING RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BELL STATION

[simple siren]

i didnt place 2 ls

u can check it

[storm dagger]

Once you get hunters crest there's no reason to switch (personal experience)

[dull ermine]

sob has the awkward first phase, I think in mantis lords it felt like a natural step while still maintaining the suprise and chaos

[torn token]

Holy shit I forgot to heal during my witch attempts

[verbal steeple]

he does that if you skip him with fleas or by going through wormways to get into shellwood and then bellhart

[tiny marlin]

are you playing silksong on mobile

[stable pilot]

🇧🇷?

[vivid raptor]

Yes

[dusky bobcat]

nuke/heal. You know what i mean.

[simple siren]

yes

[stable pilot]

Based

[stable pilot]

Aí sim

[torn token]

No I legit forgot to heal

[simple siren]

WOAHhpi1woqjkd

[tacit sentinel]

Red tools are cheesy

[tiny marlin]

its crazy how much space is taken up on screen oh my god

[tacit sentinel]

Pure nail >>>>

[dull ermine]

if the heal does damage why don't you just pale nails twice

[graceful oyster]

I wish sawtooth circlet was good

[red tapir]

off you go to fight LL again

[stable pilot]

Needle

[storm dagger]

Wrong game

[earnest drift]

which are more unbalanced, red tools or hk charms

[torn token]

Nah I'm no hitting her with every crest

[red tapir]

charms fs

[vivid raptor]

It's not really a big deal for me, I always watch HK gameplay or Cat videos while playing Silksong

[last dew]

red tools 🙂‍↕️

[tiny marlin]

ohh

[torn token]

So later

[dull ermine]

do you mean tools or charms lol

[tacit sentinel]

Same difference

[earnest drift]

no specifically red tools

[stable pilot]

Holy attention span

[storm dagger]

Most of them

[tiny marlin]

is it just me or do tools feel kinda meh compared to charms

[ivory halo]

tbf i finished silksong on mobile too start to finish i just used my steam deck

[stable pilot]

Or multitask capability

[storm dagger]

Nahhh

[dull ermine]

I think tools are a bit better if you have the skill

[vivid raptor]

Lmao, I get bored easily

[dusky bobcat]

hk charms, specifically shaman stone

[stable pilot]

Me too but not on that level

[earnest drift]

blue and yellow tools are quite well balanced but red tools not so much, probably because they're new

[tacit sentinel]

🤯

[vivid raptor]

I mean, I also use it for guides

[leaden delta]

red tools i think id say

[keen solstice]

Were hk charms capable of making you kill a 1.5k HP boss in 12s

[dull ermine]

nothing in hk allows you to beat pure vessel in 8 seconds like you can with karmelita

[red tapir]

i wish the spider strings were actually useful

[slate python]

Guys have you heard of act 6 and 7

[graceful oyster]

If circlet was good I think witch might be better than reaper crest

[slate python]

Where lace and Hornet get married

[vivid raptor]

Im still on act 4

[stable pilot]

Then why are you watching HK content while playing Skong?

[dull ermine]

depends if we're counting flukenest

[storm dagger]

I think charms are more unbalanced

[tacit sentinel]

Strength and quick slash

[slate python]

Damn

[stable pilot]

Can I ping mods over this?

[slate python]

Why?

[graceful oyster]

Don't need to ping mods

Just refer to the pinned message

[slate python]

Its clearly a joke

[stable pilot]

That ship isn't allowed

[storm dagger]

You should just direct him to the pinned message

[slate python]

Okay

[earnest drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNh_3ap7HiU

[vivid raptor]

Beastfly 2

[stable pilot]

I can't see pinned messages

[vivid raptor]

Dead Vessel

[stable pilot]

I don't know how those work lmao

[dusky bobcat]

it really just boils down to cogflies and one other tool of choice-curveclaw, sting shard, tacks, or the circle saw thing

[storm dagger]

Shaw

[storm dagger]

Oops

[slate python]

My bad

[vivid raptor]

I finished a lot

[dull ermine]

cogflies aren't good if you want to speedrun a boss, you go bolos pimpillos or cuvsickles, tacks and sting shards work too

[earnest drift]

how about 12 seconds

[stable pilot]

Holy

[graceful oyster]

[keen solstice]

TAS?

[dull ermine]

the record for karmelita is like 9 seconds, I reckon a tas would make it 6

[tiny geyser]

Is mister mushrooms 3rd quest Blasted steps, if no, where? If yes, please mark on map

[earnest drift]

i don't think so

[stable pilot]

I mean, karmelita is less tanky and mobile

[dusky bobcat]

architect mains run it sometimes instead for ease of use cuz one can only click one button at a time

[dull ermine]

also for hk you have fury which isn't that fair imo

[keen solstice]

Isn't her HP like onpar

[stable pilot]

Doesn't seem like tas to me

[dull ermine]

ig but u want burst damage, there's a reason they don't use pollip pouch

[earnest drift]

to be fair this pure vessel speedkill involves fury and baldur shell which take more skill to use than spamming voltvessels

[stable pilot]

It's a 300 HP diff
!wiki pure vessel

[mental swallow]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Pure_Vessel

Hollow Knight Wiki

Pure Vessel

The Pure Vessel is a quest boss in Hollow Knight introduced in Godmaster. They are the prime version of the Hollow Knight, unaffected by the Infection. They sit at the top of the Pantheon of the Knight.

Theme

Pure Vessel

Health

1600

Journal Kills

1

Gender

Genderless

[stable pilot]

I am wrong

[keen solstice]

!wiki karmelita

[mental swallow]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Skarrsinger_Karmelita

Hollow Knight Wiki

Skarrsinger Karmelita

Skarrsinger Karmelita is an NPC and main boss in Hollow Knight: Silksong. Defeating her within her memory grants the Hunter's Heart, which is one of the four Old Hearts that can be used for the SEEK: The Old Hearts Objective; only three are required.

Location

Far Fields

​

Combat Values

Health

1500

Damage Modifiers

1.5    1.25    1.1    1    0.95

Reward

Hunter's Heart

Journal Kills

1

​

Miscellaneous

Gender

Female

Voice

Siobhan Owen (singing)
Beau Fitzgerald (dialogue)

Backer

Juan Camus

Theme

Skarrsinger Karmelita (Vocals + Background) (Enemy Gauntlet)
Skarrsinger Karmelita (Vocals + Main) (Skarrsinger Karmelita)
Skarrsinger Karmelita (Main) (Staggered)

Singing

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/File:Skarrsinger_Karmelita_Sing.ogg
Present
https://hollowknight.wiki/w/File:Skarrsinger_Karmelita_Sing_02.ogg
When challenging her
https://hollowknight.wiki/w/File:Skarrsinger_Karmelita_Sing_03.ogg
Before and during the fight

[stable pilot]

It's only 100

[storm dagger]

That's cool, a lot of buttons which really shows how much actions yee have

[keen solstice]

100hp diff

[wild vector]

Hollow knight, Silksong, or Hungry knight?

[storm dagger]

All of the above

[keen solstice]

Karmelita also blocks frequently

[stable pilot]

Still, she is definitely less mobile and doesn't teleport

[slate python]

Pablo

[earnest drift]

so what needs to be changed about red tools

[stable pilot]

What crest do people use

[dusky bobcat]

is sawtooth any good in tases

[stable pilot]

Capability

[keen solstice]

For karm? Archi

[stable pilot]

Capacity***

[keen solstice]

I mean, for every boss Speedrun it's archi lo

[stable pilot]

She blocks tools?

[earnest drift]

do voltvessels hold too many then

[dull ermine]

I mean blue tools don't really get you extra damage so yeah

[stable pilot]

I thought only lace had those supreme capabilities

[dull ermine]

but red tools are just so broken it doesn't matter

[storm dagger]

I agree

[stable pilot]

I think so

[earnest drift]

the main ones that need to be changed imo are:
cogflies
curvesickle (remove it)
voltvessels
architect silkshot
rosary cannon

[dull ermine]

karmelita if you were on steel soul (shell satchetel) you could beat karmelita in 5 seconds if you did it right

[earnest drift]

architect crest also needs to be changed

[dusky bobcat]

rosary cannon lowk needs buffs

[earnest drift]

is conchcutter unbalanced

[dusky bobcat]

Either 1.5 or double the cost to craft

[stable pilot]

I think yes

It's very strong

[regal isle]

curvesickle is fine

[earnest drift]

i don't think that'll do much because the player cna still cheese with enough shards
i say halve the number of tools crafted with one craft bind

[stable pilot]

Okay this is a good idea

[keen solstice]

Na
Just red tools

[earnest drift]

17 dmg multihitting tool with massive hitbox

[regal isle]

i like how delver's drill is just the most balanced tool ngl

[cobalt pilot]

Hi chat

[dull ermine]

architects crest is fine, I think being plasmified is too brokean tho

[stable pilot]

Not sure about this take

[sinful agate]

Hey

[keen solstice]

Nerf red tool overall dmg by 30% and make them cost more

[cobalt pilot]

Is anything cool happening in here rn

[sinful agate]

[storm dagger]

I agree

[stable pilot]

Imo it's straight pin

[earnest drift]

some red tools don't need that nerf

[dull ermine]

casuals already don't use red tools lmao no

[ivory halo]

guys why is there no decaf white monster

[keen solstice]

Nerf the ones that do
Curvesickle, voltvessels, etc

[stable pilot]

Red tools are boring

[earnest drift]

do tacks need a nerf

[winter moss]

zoteboat or shoelace

[dusky bobcat]

Best tool might be conchcutter ngl

[stable pilot]

Shoelace

[ivory halo]

i’m not casual and i don’t use red tools

[keen solstice]

Eh
Plasmified is mid on other crests other than witch and beast(they ignore the downside)

[stable pilot]

Never tried

[leaden orchid]

they already got nerfed

[dull ermine]

they trivialize every boss in the game

[stable pilot]

But it's a pain to get overdosed with lifeblood

[pale ingot]

Guys I got teleported too the future and I don’t know what to do. Luckily I found goku here so I’m safe. Idk why he’s wearing all black tho

[dull ermine]

you can't be looking at everything from a tas perspective man

[stable pilot]

On those crests

[keen solstice]

Steel soul shell satchel

[stable pilot]

You have to go all the way to the wormays, you need to be in act 3 or in steel soul, and you can't use benches

[earnest drift]

needs a nerf: conchcutter, voltvessels, cogflies, curvesickle
needs a buff: architect silkshot, longpin, rosary cannon

[regal isle]

they should get rid of dead bug's purse, silkeaters make it so useless

[keen solstice]

Buff longpin dmg and nerf beast crest piercing

[leaden orchid]

nerf rosary cannon and make it cost 10 rosaries per shot

[earnest drift]

exactly

[regal isle]

literally js remove it and keep shell satchle

[keen solstice]

Give longpin it's use back

[earnest drift]

i fucking love shell satchel

[stable pilot]

Silk eaters

[dull ermine]

silkshots, cannons, throwing rings NEED a buff

[keen solstice]

Beast change is legit a middle finger to longpin's entire niche

[storm dagger]

Great tool

[earnest drift]

throwing rings aren't that bad

[stable pilot]

Literally the biggest improvement from HK to ss

[dull ermine]

less damage than straight pin lmao

[earnest drift]

if you hit 2 enemies per ring it totals to 560 dmg

[torn token]

Holy shit hitless witch on LL was alot easier than I thought it would be

[dull ermine]

the bouncing off mechanic is almost useless

[earnest drift]

but you can only use it in gauntlets

[storm dagger]

It doesn't matter to me as I don't use beast crest or longpin

[dusky bobcat]

flea brew i think also needs a buff bc flintslate is just straight up better

[dull ermine]

what u gonna use it once in coral tower? even then there are better choices

[keen solstice]

Then again silk skills also do the same thing which is LOL
Longpin found dead in a ditch

[leaden orchid]

???? what

[dull ermine]

no fleabrew is balanced

[leaden orchid]

oh you mean using all rings

[dull ermine]

if anything just make it infinite capacity after beating the flea games

[lusty grove]

just beat Pinstress first try

[stable pilot]

How can something be LOL

[lusty grove]

I mean, technically second try cuz I fell and reset the fight, but still

[earnest drift]

i do use it then yes
and yes there are better options but i think conchcutter, curvesickle and voltvessels are overpowered, not throwing rings being underpowered

[storm dagger]

The best use longpin has imo is for the skewered meat 😭

[leaden orchid]

skargard did NOT have to be that difficult

[stable pilot]

Broodmother?

[keen solstice]

Yk what's funny

Sting shard does that job better 😭

[median radish]

THE CRAGGLER IS NOT A BOSS

[tiny marlin]

broodmother.

[stable pilot]

I don't think so

[dusky bobcat]

how did u die to lace 1

[gaunt root]

Print finished, is it good?
(I’m painting it later today)

[tiny marlin]

genuinely though it was so annoying

[leaden orchid]

neither is skargard or zango

[torn token]

Longpin being useless is common knowledge isn't it?

[storm dagger]

Ooh, that's good to know the third broodfeast I do 🙏

[tiny marlin]

i wasnt prepared and also i kept knocking her into the lava when she was supposed to be stunned so she got back up instantly

[keen solstice]

Skarrgard might not be a boss

But he sure damn well is one of the hardest encounters in the game

[median radish]

Zango is a boss

[finite swift]

I just realized Crawfather has no strings attached he just fucking hates us

[leaden orchid]

barely

[earnest drift]

nah i'd parry

[stable pilot]

It's the hardest normal enemy in the game

[torn token]

I encountered skargard when I didn't have dash my 1st playthrough 💔

[storm dagger]

I think it's a good way to show the challenge of hunter's march

[lusty grove]

you kinda killed the world

[leaden orchid]

why are last claws easier than skarrgard arent they meant to be karms last defence

[stable pilot]

Hit him and check if he drops silk particles

[lusty grove]

he has every right to hate us, he got them from a court of law

[median radish]

Spit Squit:

[stable pilot]

Okay it's this one

[tiny marlin]

i hate this guy so much

[candid kayak]

do you have invincibility on or something

[stable pilot]

They are easy

[candid kayak]

surely you'd be taking contact damage otherwise

[leaden orchid]

gloom guy isnt that bad jst jump over him

[earnest drift]

i mean fighting them

[stable pilot]

Doesn't work most of the time

[finite swift]

I took damage a second later

[candid kayak]

hm

[keen solstice]

Fair
This guy just has the worst hitbox known to mankind

[candid kayak]

maybe the singing pose has a smaller hitbox

[stable pilot]

Hitbox is weird and he does a random ass move that has to hit you

[stable pilot]

Both nosks in question

[torn token]

I just need to hitless LL with architect, beast, and reaper

[winter moss]

what do you guys think will be the next hk game? if there is one

[storm dagger]

Architect will be pretty easy

[torn token]

I meant drilltect

[stable pilot]

I don't know, I am sure it will have mr mushroom

[regal isle]

lace

[earnest drift]

lace in the city of steel getting overtaken by lifeblood infection

[winter moss]

hollow knight: mr mushroom

[storm dagger]

Dang

[glad ingot]

well yeah we murdered a bunch of them and unleashed hell on the world (accidentally)

[stable pilot]

I need to do LL with any crest except wanderers

[winter moss]

that would be PEAK

[median radish]

I’m pretty sure TC said they were done with the HK franchise (at least gamewise)
But Mr. Mushroom ending could prove otherwise

[storm dagger]

I'm not sure, I don't think it will be Lace is all I can say

[torn token]

You'll get there

[leaden orchid]

evil abyss lifeblood thing is the final boss ig

[winter moss]

“but mr mushroom readjusts”

[storm dagger]

It did say to be continued after all...

[stable pilot]

My wanderers build is kinda fire though

I'm very used to it

[glad ingot]

i think they said one more game and then they're done

[lusty grove]

Crawfather: hates us because we are responsible for the death of the world
Raging Conchfly: hates us because we killed its partner right in front of it
Groal: hates us because our ancestors destroyed his homeland
Last Judge: hates us

[glad ingot]

they'll make a more clear announcement once they're done with skong dlcs

[stable pilot]

Because we are sinful

[candid kayak]

exactly, you were summoned to a court

if they just wanted to kill you they would've thrown the pin with the summons on it AT YOU

[storm dagger]

I'll make sure to tune in to the announcement on 2031

[lusty grove]

ah, yes
we fought back, the greatest of sins

[winter moss]

Wyrms will lure bugs into their thrall
till ages pass and kingdoms fall.
Caps and shells may fall to dust
but Mr. Mushroom readjusts.
i memorized this btw

[glad ingot]

no

[winter moss]

we killed people before this

[leaden orchid]

last judge mad cause we killed a single mossgrub

[earnest drift]

last judge teaching us to not use violence by beating the shit out of us

[glad ingot]

because we killed people iirc

[stable pilot]

We killed a mother of 10

[candid kayak]

bearing a weapon is also sin according to horned pilgrim

[winter moss]

violence is never the answer. violence is the question. the answer is yes

[lusty grove]

Last Judge after I killed Moss Mother and Widow (I had no choice in the matter): 😡

[candid kayak]

violence is always the answer

[crisp heron]

unravelled with base needle is more unfun than any other boss in the game

[glad ingot]

of 10? moss mother?

[stable pilot]

Yep

[ivory halo]

franga

[storm dagger]

Last judge would want you to delete the game, trust

[glad ingot]

why 10

[stable pilot]

Probably more

[winter moss]

way more than that

[candid kayak]

uhm, I'm pretty sure there was far more than 10

[leaden orchid]

unravelled in general is more unfun

[glad ingot]

yeah but it was a murder, so you're sinful

doesnt matter if you had choice

[lusty grove]

did she want me to just die?

[crisp heron]

unravelled more like

unemployable

unenjoyable fuck

[last dew]

slaps my knee

[stable pilot]

Yes

Why do you think pilgrims suffer to get to the citadel

[lusty grove]

Last Judge when I don't let the wild beast kill me: 😡

[leaden orchid]

genuinely has there ever been a person who says "The Unravelled bossfight was so fun and engaging! It sure was my favourite fight in the game!"

[glad ingot]

again, not exactly correct

[stable pilot]

Last judge when you hold a weapon

[glad ingot]

if you got there without killing anyone , lj would be fine