sk-discussion

[elfin sand]

Im glad this person needs to never indulge in hollow knight again

[night ruin]

Its not that deep

[golden karma]

I can see why this was deleted

[ocean quarry]

nope, it's the same as hornet

[golden karma]

That one tier is like Inexcusable

[graceful oyster]

Savage Beastfly, at needle 0 (when most people first approach Beastfly), takes 110 hits to kill.

[elfin sand]

https://tenor.com/view/ocean-gif-10002801

[night ruin]

Damn you guys are vultures

[exotic fern]

how is the twisted bud above than higher beings just stomp on that damn infant

[raw pawn]

But why is lost lace above higher being she is literally corrupted lace

[devout oak]

crazy

[ocean quarry]

another reason to hate it

[golden karma]

Zote is the son of greyroot

[plain tundra]

Am I missing something or shouldn’t Hornet be the same tier as GMS after turning into her

[earnest drift]

i hate greyroot

[night ruin]

Thats too many good lord

[fringe jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850870543937962064/1227788034267676752/twitter_1778218345096937832.gif

[night ruin]

Idk

[marsh ibex]

?

[exotic fern]

the reason zote doesnt do damage is because the parasite is holding back his true potential

[night ruin]

We dont gotta argue about ironic power scaling chat

[ocean quarry]

zote is himself a parasite to any hk save file

[elfin sand]

Yes we do

[golden karma]

Is this just gonna be his bit
Posting something and then deleting it

[night ruin]

I see now why the image was originally deleted

[marsh ibex]

oh lmao

[plain tundra]

When you bind GMS
are you not just becoming the new gms

[runic mango]

yes

[raw pawn]

Can I argue about how hornet is actually hornet from silksong

[marsh ibex]

she seemingly overtakes your mind and Hornet would basically become GMS 2.0 yes

[devout oak]

not rly i dont think?

[golden karma]

Guys I think Hornet might not actually be a hornet

[exotic fern]

hornet is actually 3 aspids in a trench coat sorry

[slate python]

Nah you get Grandma Crest and you go on to fight The Knight

[marsh ibex]

Hornet isn’t above a higher being neither is the knight

[golden karma]

Who uses the vendor crest

[ocean quarry]

well you technically become "gms: silksong"

[elfin sand]

Goodnight everyone ily ily ily

[marsh ibex]

PV also isn’t a higher being and nkg is the same as the nightmare heart

[raw pawn]

The knight becomes one when they get the void heart

[plain tundra]

My best guess is that gms is 2 tiers lower because of the boss fight

[devout oak]

i use the pilgrim crest

[exotic fern]

the knight is debatable

[golden karma]

I don't like you

[plucky barn]

knight is?

[marsh ibex]

Don’t make comments like these

[elfin sand]

Why

[marsh ibex]

No

[earnest drift]

sorry

[golden karma]

Idk
I don't like you

[elfin sand]

I love you

[fringe jungle]

peace and harmony

[marsh ibex]

the knight is a powerful entity
Upon getting void heart they’re the strongest hb

[golden karma]

Does saying I don't like you count

[elfin sand]

https://tenor.com/view/kraid-samus-metroid-metroid-dread-lion-gif-3665180798431418891

[raw pawn]

John Hollow Knight is the strongest character

[exotic fern]

so youre saying they arent above higher being because they ARE a higher being

[elfin sand]

Yes mods kill this man

[plucky barn]

it is he killed a higher being he is born of 2higher beings

[marsh ibex]

the tierlist has a bunch of arbitrary categories father of the flame doesn’t belong here neither does the parasite or greyroot or lost lace

[marsh ibex]

Yes

[plucky barn]

knight is he for me he isnt a he tho

[green jungle]

whispering vaults map location?

[ocean quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-zote-the-knight-gif-14177395

[golden karma]

I lowkey didn't even notice fotf was there 😭

[solemn tartan]

Ts not getting enough hate 💔

[marsh ibex]

they killed a higher being after becoming one dawg

[marsh ibex]

Shut up dude

[plucky barn]

oh ok he is

[golden karma]

Fotf is a wooden totem

[raw pawn]

I don't think father of the flame is actually a real person anyway 😭

[night ruin]

We are better than this

[marsh ibex]

I mean, it is.

The person’s just dead

[solemn tartan]

Okay okay

I can make actual arguments as well

[golden karma]

Ts is lowkey deserved after he was bothering me by saying that craws were Birds

[night ruin]

WE ARE BALADOOOOR WE CARRY THE SILK

[plucky barn]

yeah father of flame gotta get out grim troupe makes sense

[solemn tartan]

First off PV smacks Lost Lace

[devout oak]

isnt that just a bug that burned itself and everyone went "wow we wanna do that to"

[golden karma]

Father of the flame itself is just an idol but there's a guys corpse in it

[solemn tartan]

Base Hornet just beats the void off of her

[ocean quarry]

aren't craws just crawbugs?

[earnest drift]

no

[plucky barn]

lore 100% ingame not really

[ocean quarry]

only one corpse?

[solemn tartan]

In game?

[marsh ibex]

Honestly powerscaling higher beings a fruitless endeavors we rarely see them put up against each other and the GMS we fight isn’t GMS at her strongest 90% of them aren’t compatible fight wise and UNN ISNT EVEN ON THIS LIST

[plain tundra]

I know everything is a bug in hollow knight, but what

[marsh ibex]

I JUST FUCKING REALIZED THIS

[golden karma]

He thinks birds = bugs in this universe through some insane logic

[night ruin]

Arent craws just bugs with beaks

[marsh ibex]

WHAT THE FUCK

[raw pawn]

See they rather burn themselves than go near you

[solemn tartan]

Where’s Mr mushroom bruh 🥺

[fringe jungle]

i agree with this, pure vessel is awesome

[golden karma]

Far from true

[marsh ibex]

BRO THEY PUT FATHER OF THE FLAME HERE BUT NOT UNN

wallahi

[rocky jolt]

silksong making up bug names just so they cant have crows in their games

[night ruin]

Wallaho

[golden karma]

Anything that's called a bug could be reasonably called a bug irl
First game explicitly tells you mushrooms are not bugs

[raw pawn]

I mean real crows would be giant

[plain tundra]

Right, my bad

[devout oak]

if u think abt it, hallownest had like triple the amount of higher beings compared to pharloom

[solemn tartan]

The parasite eh it’s opportunistic but it’s just leeching off the corpses of two pale beings

[plucky barn]

YEAH SLUG

[plain tundra]

Still, craw aren’t birds?

[slate python]

True have you seen Australia

[solemn tartan]

Hornet is incapacitated and GMS is down

[marsh ibex]

bit more than triple

[solemn tartan]

It’s not actually stronger

[fringe jungle]

I feel like its debatable if the bugs in hk and silksong are even bug sized

[rocky jolt]

sizes in this game dont make sense look at skarr ants

[golden karma]

The hate is deserved!!!!

[plucky barn]

?muslim

[plain tundra]

Huh, guess they’re somewhere in between

[ocean quarry]

it does? i had simply accepted that mushrooms and roots were bugs in this universe

[marsh ibex]

Pharloom has one
Hallownest had 6 at most

[solemn tartan]

And base Hornet isn’t super strong either

[exotic fern]

whats the thing in the last tier of higher being

[fringe jungle]

yeah literally the bug thing is more of an esthetic tbh

[golden karma]

Yeah it does

[solemn tartan]

NMH is probably much higher than you think it only fights you with its avatar as much as it needs to for the Ritual

It’s not going all out

[stark estuary]

Man

[golden karma]

It says something like "Neither bug or plant" to describe the mushrooms

[marsh ibex]

I mean, what?

[devout oak]

like yes, unn who is the literal god of nature for some reason sits under a lake in a dead kingdom instead of literally anywhere else

[marsh ibex]

she’s weakened bro

[night ruin]

He means it

[rocky jolt]

imo this game shouldnt stick to only bugs

[marsh ibex]

Game says as much

[plucky barn]

i will always say it when on this idc if he isnt sly counts as a higher being

[marsh ibex]

You can’t say that

[solemn tartan]

What

[wise thicket]

Sly IS one

[solemn tartan]

What’s wrong about that

[marsh ibex]

why assume nkg isn’t going all out

[marsh ibex]

like yeah it isn’t trying to kill us

[fringe jungle]

eh its fine as is

[ocean quarry]

who?

[solemn tartan]

It’s still a dance

[golden karma]

Sly is just a powerful mortal twintavious

[marsh ibex]

You can go all out without being bloodlusted

[raw pawn]

I like doing a new run using only 1 crest in

Like a witch only run (which means I will have to use hunter before act 2 )

[solemn tartan]

The slow telegraphed fire pillars

[marsh ibex]

Grimm has the capability to kill the Knight in their dance

this is an awful take

[solemn tartan]

Couldn’t he just light the whole tent on fjre at will

Literally his dream domain

[fringe jungle]

this is why powerscaling is goofy

[night ruin]

Water check. Chat acting dehydrated as fuck rn

[marsh ibex]

couldn’t rad just explode the entire screen in lasers

[solemn tartan]

Then there wouldn’t be a boss-fight though

[marsh ibex]

literally her dream domain

[solemn tartan]

Yes lol

[ocean quarry]

thanks for reminding me

[golden karma]

Let the people powerscale

[night ruin]

LOOK TO YOUR LEFT. LOOK TO YOUR RIGHT. IF YOUR WATER RECEPTACLE IS EMPTY YOURE WRONG

[plucky barn]

pretty sure lore maybe but ingame couldnt or else no ONE IS DOING ANYRAD

[marsh ibex]

I’m outlining how this isn’t a point to be like “oh this character isn’t going all out”

[night ruin]

Hydrate first. Powerscaling will be here

[raw pawn]

Hornet please stop having cramps

[marsh ibex]

It’s literally not a point bro

[solemn tartan]

Stop playing devils advocate and strike down these agendas

Base Hornet is not Above Higher Being

[ocean quarry]

bro you legit just said the opposite of

"breathe manually"

[cunning geode]

hollow knight isnt supposed to be exactly like real world biology, but ants are like this in real life

[ocean quarry]

thanks a lot

[marsh ibex]

I already took them all down

[wise thicket]

Wait is the void a higher being or not

[marsh ibex]

this ain’t even devil’s advocate ur just wrong

[marsh ibex]

The knight with void heart is

[night ruin]

Anytime fellow carbon based lifeform

[marsh ibex]

void on its own is just a dangerous substance

[night ruin]

Im going to the bodega you guys want anything

[torn token]

Guys what's yalls hottest take

[wise thicket]

Does it count if he's back in the void like he is in silksong?

[raw pawn]

There are ant sized ants in this game lol

[solemn tartan]

Do you think NMH is fighting us at its peak strength

[ocean quarry]

void being a substance irks me so so badly

[marsh ibex]

why would it not be

[marsh ibex]

good for you

[solemn tartan]

It doesn’t actually want us to die bro

[night ruin]

My hottest take? A series of predictions about dlc plot. Would take too much time to elaborate on them all

[solemn tartan]

What if TK dies over and over and gets bored and does DnM

[earnest drift]

found more snitch pick slander, day ruined

[ocean quarry]

who is nmh???

[solemn tartan]

Mister Mushroom is a Higher Being

[marsh ibex]

are you being intentionally ignorant

[raw pawn]

Nightmare heart?

[midnight ginkgo]

Sly is the original false knight

[night ruin]

NightMare Hornet duhh

[marsh ibex]

all out and BLOODLUSTED are not the same

[mighty crest]

nrand mother hilk

[marsh ibex]

literally every powerscaler knows this

Stop conflating the terms

bum

[solemn tartan]

Broken vs Pure Evil Characters

[earnest drift]

why tf are y'all powerscaling that's stupid

[cunning geode]

wtf

[ocean quarry]

who

[night ruin]

Damn bro be nice

Joker getting kinda heated over this

[wise thicket]

I agree that was too far

[solemn tartan]

Grimm calls the Heart deepest power

[night ruin]

Ict if its jocular

[solemn tartan]

I think we have our consensuss

[cobalt pilot]

Hi chat

What's it like in here today

[marsh ibex]

alright veo

[graceful oyster]

Low quality but not rancid

[fiery burrow]

joker lowk need to chill out on god fr fr no cap

[marsh ibex]

on my mama y’all got me fucked up

[ocean quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-jugulis-hydreigon-pokemon-gif-9900724606209193308

[night ruin]

Honestly? Could be worse

[solemn tartan]

Friendship ended with Silksong anyway

Moro arc is my best friend

[cobalt pilot]

Did all my oomfs go to bed

[marsh ibex]

it’s almost 10 pm again gotta get back to genkidaimatsuri

[graceful oyster]

Friendship ended with Silksong
Mio is my best friend

[night ruin]

Hot take i like violet paradoxes a lot

[solemn tartan]

Dattebayo to you too!

[fiery burrow]

I need to play more mio

[plain bloom]

Path of mild inconvenience is kind of inconvenient right now!! 😡

[graceful oyster]

I'm still figuring out if I like it or not

[fiery burrow]

I'm ngl I haven't been digging it so far but the trailers looked great

[solemn tartan]

Scorching take true

[marsh ibex]

for what, Silksong?

[mighty crest]

i fw iron crown heavy

[torn token]

Ye

[night ruin]

REAL!!!

[graceful oyster]

It wasn't too expensive and I really like the aesthetic so I'll keep it around anyway

[solemn tartan]

Treads is good Bundle is good Crown is good Valiant is fine

[cobalt pilot]

Act three is good and completes the game story very well

[solemn tartan]

Moth is great

[fiery burrow]

The aesthetic is great but for me the art direction feels kinda weird

[cobalt pilot]

And also lost lace is a good final boss

[ocean quarry]

i love their designs
i hate their names

[graceful oyster]

Super hot takes from rose

[earnest drift]

cold take

[night ruin]

I can get with this honestly

[solemn tartan]

I can’t believe I can just say the last names because all of them start with Iron and have ugly gray shinies

[cobalt pilot]

Not in this channel apparently

[fiery burrow]

Like its not making me feel much which might be because I don't really have any grounded objective or knowledge of the world

[night ruin]

Its cool its like theyre factory models

[ocean quarry]

all of them have iron in their name

only one is steel type

[solemn tartan]

“Wow I sure hope this final boss fight maintains its immersion!”
The humble 30 second void wave

[devout oak]

its fine gameplay wise and the story makes sense, but radiance was so much better

[fiery burrow]

Rad also had long af phase transitions they don't learn😭

[earnest drift]

badass

[graceful oyster]

When I started ||learning about the other pearls|| I got interested and am now invested

[night ruin]

Thats fine

[ocean quarry]

ugh don't remind me

[solemn tartan]

Okay but Rad has insane aura

[cobalt pilot]

I like them both very much

[earnest drift]

radiance has worse writing and worse gameplay, just better execution and aura

[solemn tartan]

WORSE WRITING?

[cobalt pilot]

Radiance is incredibly enjoyable to fight when you get the hang of it and the story beats are very good

[raw pawn]

When I am in a being useless competition and these tools show up

[solemn tartan]

Ugh star I got baited

[night ruin]

Worse writing is a claim

[graceful oyster]

Add sawtooth circlet

[mortal dagger]

Yes you did 😭

[cobalt pilot]

LL has an excellent soundtrack and phase transitions

[night ruin]

Silksong players when something made for lore doesnt increase dps:

[ocean quarry]

ok worse gameplay is true tho

[cobalt pilot]

And of course has great writing

[fiery burrow]

I throw on Shard Pendant always ngl so I never run out of tools

[cobalt pilot]

What does shard pendant do again

[solemn tartan]

Rad’s fight isnt anything stellar there are better endgame bosses but like Lost Lace is just dark noise

[cobalt pilot]

Makes enemies drop more shards?

[royal mason]

Trobbio x Grimm?

[solemn tartan]

Black void black projectiles black boss black foreground

[ocean quarry]

yes

[night ruin]

I feel like people forget just how iconic thk's self mutilation was when hk first came out

[golden karma]

I'm sorry but aside from jokes I will never get Spider Strings

Every decision made around the needolin confuses me but especially spider strings

[solemn tartan]

It must genuinely be a nightmare if you have some sort of visual impairment

[graceful oyster]

[ocean quarry]

rad's attacks are way harder to see

[earnest drift]

lace is a neglected child who was made to wake her mother up, then her job was being replaced by the weaver descendants so she tried to stop hornet from waking her mom out, then that didn't work so she vents her frustration out by dismembering gms, now hornet is trying to rescue her

radiance infects people because she wants them to worship her again

radiance isn't badly written but lace is much better

[solemn tartan]

It’s not accessible

[cobalt pilot]

THK's entire boss fight is absolutely amazing but that moment is so sad

[golden karma]

Like sure it's not combat focused but even then its still kind of useless for what it focuses on

[night ruin]

Theres nothing to get. Its a better dream nail

[ocean quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-the-hollow-knight-thk-stab-gif-25367426

[raw pawn]

If spider strings was like dreamweilder I would have used it ngl

[graceful oyster]

THK is still the most cinematic and rich fight in both games

[earnest drift]

such a great moment

[golden karma]

????
Needolin is far worse than the DN aside from lore

[ocean quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-zote-the-knight-gif-14177395

[graceful oyster]

Both games*

[solemn tartan]

That’s not why Rad infects people, she wanted to strike back at the moths who abandoned her and the king who drew them away
She’s dying and angry

[night ruin]

We cant "aside from lore" an item that is literally only for lore

[earnest drift]

needolin is the only thing silksong did worse than hollow knight

[golden karma]

It has no combat application, which say what you want this game is arguably more combat focused than HK

[solemn tartan]

Also ehh that’s not really Lace

[coarse leaf]

heyo skongers
sup @night ruin

[golden karma]

It's totally not like dream nail had a huge combat application

[fiery burrow]

I mean Rad tried something new with the no-contact damage and platforming segments which imo makes her pretty good

[mortal dagger]

They have combat use

[raw pawn]

Why aren't enemies in gauntlets affected by the needolin

[ocean quarry]

tf u mean "arguably"

isn't it obvious

[solemn tartan]

The Weaver descendants were bugs who could kill GMS, like the Weavers wanted
That is antithetical to what GMS made Lace for

[earnest drift]

so it's a revenge story? still simple

[marsh ibex]

Act 3 would’ve been better if GMS was a fully fledged final boss at the end of it, no everbloom stuff, instead of hornet killing the old hearts to rejuvenate them she reignited their power so they could help fight against GMS, no void whatsoever, Shamans can still help to make a spell, and make the final boss either a Conductor or anything else

I’d even take a technical third Lace refight where she totally unravels herself and becomes some giant monstrosity in order to garner enough silk to continue on

Also lace shouldn’t be a child. Make her a proper adult without this “body and mind of child to boot”
Make her and Hornet become a thing. Homophobia can be part of the Citadel, it’s like organized religion that fucks everything up and rising above that and eventually GMS’s abuse would be awesome

Weavers shouldn’t all be dead. There should be some cowering in Weavenests. Scrap red memory, have this information come from the weavers who returned from Hallownest. Remove the Slab hornet racism. Make it so the Citadel wasn’t a weaver idea, it was GMS wanting to become the mother to the entirety of Pharloom. It adds to her abusive nature and misunderstanding of children. The weavers should’ve been forced to work as part of the citadel and maybe been some exalted enemy encounters to boot, but not killed

And for the love of god, put Verdania back in its place. Why is it not anywhere near the moss area???

Lastly, lifeblood becoming another infection is stupid. Just scrap that shit entirely and have Zylotol just getting high off the juice or something.

[golden karma]

This isn't even about the meta it's what the game is about and focused on

[night ruin]

Some people tried making dream nail combat work. Some people also allow their kids to get measels in 2026.

[ocean quarry]

radiance is a bitch

[coarse leaf]

it did
you can extract spells and focus from enemies without killing them, or while they are invulnerable aka uumuu

[ocean quarry]

and a tantrum-throwing attention whore

[solemn tartan]

Her conversations with Hornet in act 3 are ridiculous and just reinforce the idea that she’s a poorly written character

[coarse leaf]

It becomes even better with a single notch charm

[cobalt pilot]

I think there's more you can interpret about radiance because of hints and lore, but you generally have to be paying pretty close attention to find those hints. I don't mind that, and I enjoy that there's greater room for interpretation with Radiance than Lace, but it is absolutely way more vague than Lace's arc. You can understand what's actually going on with Lace much easier

[marsh ibex]

less of a hot take and more rewriting a lot of Silksong tbh

[earnest drift]

why would you want the same final boss twice

[raw pawn]

Dream nail was actually pretty good for getting soul especially with dreamweilder

[marsh ibex]

can you read what I actually said

[golden karma]

Yeah that's what I'm sayjng

[fiery burrow]

Regarding Rad's character she's not super fleshed out but like GMS she doesn't really need to be and she's more a thematic element more than anything else, Dream No More as a whole was more thematically cohesive than Sister of the Void which is why I think she's the better written fight

[night ruin]

Be nice

[solemn tartan]

Up until the end she refuses to acknowledge her actions and you can be well written and unsympathetic but Lace just is not because you’re supposed to feel for her to an extent despite how horrible what she’s doing is

[golden karma]

The needolin proceeds to have none but then for some reason gets a dedicated tool that is also useless at what it does

[devout oak]

i personally think there should have been more build up to lace 2(making her the final boss) and then if you do the silk and soul quest, gms is immediately teleported to the abyss where you fight her as the true final boss after act 3

[golden karma]

And also elegy of the deep is barely touched upon

[marsh ibex]

Can you read what I said?

[solemn tartan]

Rad haters when I show them Bardoon Vespa Mushroom tablet parallels

[mortal dagger]

What the fuck

[golden karma]

No dream rematch equivalent

[night ruin]

I think needolin was an improvement from what dream nail tried to do idk.

[torn token]

My hottest take is FS is overrated

[marsh ibex]

The “technical third lace refight” would be the new final boss

[bronze spruce]

Dude added in a little funfact

[fiery burrow]

Also saving Lace instead of killing GMS feels like a really roundabout way to go about it tbh I think they just wanted a third Lace fight because like... why

[marsh ibex]

Of her becoming a monstrosity of silk to continue

[golden karma]

I like most things about silksong but I will never get the series of decisions they made regarding the needolin

[night ruin]

There are so many other ways to create combat that making needolin combative just seems superfluous.

[devout oak]

why would you want to fight the same boss thrice one time as the final boss?

[raw pawn]

I don't like how the needolin doesn't work in gauntlets

[fiery burrow]

Needolin wants to be ocarina of time so bad 😭 🙏

[night ruin]

If you want to have combat focused playstyles why tf are you lore hunting in the first place

[golden karma]

I feel like the stun could've been expanded upon and used more creatively

[torn token]

Also I feel as if lace and hornet shouldn't be a thing and shakra and hornet should be a thing if the story was to include a partner for hornet

[cobalt pilot]

I understand where you're going with that but I personally think the way the bosses are structured work more for their character arcs and the story of the game

[golden karma]

Maybe allow movement while using the needolin

[cobalt pilot]

I think it was the right decision to make you fight lace to be able to save her

[ocean quarry]

3rd lace should have been a "floating giant head and two massive hands" type of boss battle

[night ruin]

Possible cause for an upgrade mayhaps

[ocean quarry]

like 4th chorus!

[golden karma]

But obviously more limited

[raw pawn]

Lost sherma

[earnest drift]

because she's a good character and it makes sense

[solemn tartan]

Letting you live was my rebellion, spider. I've denied my mother your silken strength. I've won.
She can thrash, and waste, and know her pathetic, broken child caused the mortal wound.

So the mother resists the dark... to save the child?

Why is lace so unsympathetic and annoying

[torn token]

Lace is made of silk and hornet produces silk so it would make since if hornet was more of a caretaker for lace

[marsh ibex]

no thanks
played enough zelda

[marsh ibex]

you could have her become a snakelike creature shoving anything it can into her maw

[raw pawn]

Lace is lace theory

[devout oak]

would you fight "broken hornet" instead of the radiance

[marsh ibex]

oh yeah lastly I want lace to react to phantom’s death

[fiery burrow]

That's kinda the point tbf

[earnest drift]

hollow knight isn't silksong

[fiery burrow]

Lace is messed up and is only really thinking in terms of what will get the most attention

[ocean quarry]

how would she even know

[earnest drift]

if silksong had another god as the true final boss that would've been disappointing

[torn token]

Yes absolutely

[solemn tartan]

It is but it’s entirely dissonant because that idea is maintained even in the next interaction

[torn token]

Organ stops working

[solemn tartan]

Besides GMS letting Hornet blast up

[cobalt pilot]

Yeah it becomes formulaic at that point

[night ruin]

I think this will be epilogue content.

[marsh ibex]

make up literally any reason
We know she goes to Phantom’s place at points

[devout oak]

which is why gms shouldnt be the final boss of act 2

[fiery burrow]

I don't follow

[cobalt pilot]

I really like that TC switched it up

[ocean quarry]

we do?

[raw pawn]

I don't think hornet (not the player) even knows that lace is phantom's sibling

[marsh ibex]

well what they did in response sucks

[earnest drift]

if gms was the final boss of act 3 that would've been boring
already had something similar with radiance

[marsh ibex]

Hornet can find needolin dialogue

[night ruin]

Hornet sees the needolin dialogues too

[fiery burrow]

Hornet doesn't even know about Phantom she forgets about her when talking to Caretaker about Lace 😭

[cobalt pilot]

Naw I liked it

[marsh ibex]

okay? And what was done in response wasn’t any better. “The higher being is the fake final boss and the true final boss is the hornet equivalent you already fought twice”

[ocean quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[marsh ibex]

Things being different doesn’t make it better

[torn token]

Honestly I feel like SK has a great story that doesn't need changes

[fiery burrow]

Both options suck yes

[night ruin]

I guess this gives me the hot take that silksong shouldve had better branching dialogue

[marsh ibex]

You in fact see lace even less than hornet

[fiery burrow]

Final boss should've been First Sinner

[earnest drift]

i don't see what's wrong with this
lace is a good fight

[solemn tartan]

The final dialogue even without the daughter of Hallownest line just makes no sense

[icy crow]

True final boss should've been Muckified Zango

[cobalt pilot]

I think fighting lace a third time is a good thing

[fiery burrow]

I mean yeah

[earnest drift]

i saw lost lace for over 4 hours

[night ruin]

Adds to the musical motif for sure

[solemn tartan]

It’s like it was written in a vacuum with barely any context it doesn’t follow up even with Hornet saying I have the everbloom

[ocean quarry]

hot take: we should have fought her more

[marsh ibex]

in your opinion
but that’s also besides the point
if I fought a boss twice and the third time its effectively the same fight but has added stipulations of annoying enemy design that plagued the act isn’t fun

[fresh lake]

Hi can we play silksong without playing hollowknight

[solemn tartan]

Yes

[ocean quarry]

yes

[fiery burrow]

Team Cherry got goldfish memory when it comes to writing dialogue

[night ruin]

Annoying to you maybe

[cobalt pilot]

We need a FOURTH lace fight in Sea of Sorrow 🥹

[earnest drift]

they're not annoying in lost lace's fight because they're consistent now

[ocean quarry]

no, not like this

[raw pawn]

It will be very hard tho

[icy crow]

True final boss should've been Lost Kratt

[fiery burrow]

You caaaan but I wouldn't recommend it for difficulty and story reasons

[solemn tartan]

Star do you think Ogrim and Isma’s relationship benefits from the meta dung beetle and plant stuff

[night ruin]

Tbf that shit is not easy

[marsh ibex]

And regardless I was changing stuff

[cobalt pilot]

Yes but I would recommend playing HK first so you understand the context of some things that happen in silksong

[fiery burrow]

YES

[torn token]

Pantheons for pharloom should have us fight phantom and lace at the same time

[marsh ibex]

If I had total control I would’ve cut GMS entirely

[fiery burrow]

wtf

[torn token]

W h a t

[cobalt pilot]

You're right! We need a new lace fight for each dlc

[night ruin]

Im so glad some of you arent on team cherry

[torn token]

I did ask for the hottest take

[night ruin]

I want to see what kinds of games youd make

[solemn tartan]

Isn’t it funny how Seth and Nyleth just lack an underlying connection though

Like that

[raw pawn]

Mucked lace

[solemn tartan]

Holy shit my messages are not sending

[fiery burrow]

It'd be funny if it wasn't euugh

[solemn tartan]

It’s just a plant and her dude

[marsh ibex]

motherhood wise and theme wise she’s fine but as an antagonist she’s not done well

[cobalt pilot]

That's kind of just phantom

[marsh ibex]

god can discord fuck off with this message not sending bullcrap

[fresh lake]

I can your message

[night ruin]

Motherhood wise

[torn token]

How come?

[earnest drift]

why not

[solemn tartan]

Thank you

[night ruin]

Everybody is so creative

[raw pawn]

Seth was just given the role of protecting the shrine and loses his memory after that

[earnest drift]

she's better than radiance

[devout oak]

i swear i saw a video that was like "the radiance was like pure anger and gms was just bad parenting" or something

[marsh ibex]

“Higher being behind everything that made an ailment that affects the denizens of the kingdom and is stopped when killed” is just the Radiance again with a different coat of paint

[solemn tartan]

If we cut down the Isma tree would Ogrim lose his memories

[earnest drift]

gms is NOT behind everything
she's behind like 40% of everything

[night ruin]

Extremely reductive holy smokes

[earnest drift]

the other 60% is the weavers and conductors

[night ruin]

Also just kind of incorrect

[solemn tartan]

Beginning of Act 2 Hornet ahh 💔

[short storm]

I used to hate silksong but now i think its good the only thing I dont like is how someone like cornifer isn't there

[solemn tartan]

Ugh

[cobalt pilot]

FREE MONEY

[torn token]

That's what pale beings do it's literally baked into the theme

[fiery burrow]

GMS is conceptually good its just bizarre that the best way they thought of executing her bossfight was using the same intro as Radiance the same gimmick as Radiance similar attacks to Radiance and borrowed design elements from Radiance with borrowed possession plotpoint. Super underwhelming 😕

[cobalt pilot]

Yeah

[marsh ibex]

Which is a direct result of GMS’s actions

[raw pawn]

I think Seth was immortal when he was guarding the shrine too but I am just theorizing

[solemn tartan]

No I actually agree though

[night ruin]

Mfw sequels reference their predecessors

[marsh ibex]

This is also something that was added on by the second game that isn’t done well

It exists to make GMS bad

[torn token]

Pale beings want control it is the main plot point for both games

[earnest drift]

gms didn't ask the weavers to lock her up and force pilgrims to continue singing to keep her asleep

[worn perch]

I love the whole concept of Crawfather

[marsh ibex]

They locked her up because she was an abusive bad mother what

[earnest drift]

gms is much better than radiance, because her motivations change throughout the story
radiance more or less stays stagnant

[fiery burrow]

Had she not oppressed weavers that would not have happened

[marsh ibex]

it is a direct result of her actions

[earnest drift]

that doesn't make her responsible for everything the weavers did

[solemn tartan]

I don’t love how the entirety of Act 2 is you seeing “it wasn’t just GMS, it was the people under her and the people under them. Mortals can commit atrocities in their fervor and the oppressed can become the true oppressor” but then Ballador and GP go out of their way for the game to say “nope it’s all the Higher Beings fault she should have just not existed”

[night ruin]

Thats kind of how antagonism works

[raw pawn]

Screw both the weavers and gms

[earnest drift]

gms didn't make the weavers start the pilgrimage or lock up people for being sick

[devout oak]

sa he said, she didnt ask for that

[raw pawn]

They both suck

[fiery burrow]

GMS being the cause of everything is referenced both in the Green Prince quest and Ballador's "only one monarch" dialogue

[solemn tartan]

It ironically makes the themes of religious fervor less grounded by grounding them diegetically

[earnest drift]

gms didn't make white ward or enslave pilgrims in the underworks

[marsh ibex]

I said “it was a direct result of her actions” not “she’s responsible for everything the weavers did”

[solemn tartan]

Wavelength

[torn token]

Yes, she is the antagonist she is SUPPOSED to look bad

[marsh ibex]

Please do not put things into my mouth

[devout oak]

literally everything bad in pharloom is at least partially the fault of the weavers, much more than gms

[earnest drift]

yeah
she's so much more than the radiance

[night ruin]

Sure if you take ballador at face value (not supposed to do that btw)

[fiery burrow]

She's a bit like britain

[worn perch]

"The bird-bug court has found you guilty of the crime of causing the apocalypse. Your punishment? A goddamn BEATDOWN."

[marsh ibex]

You can do this without randomly adding “pale beings need control”

[raw pawn]

Based crawfather

[earnest drift]

and i'm sorry but the weavers were worse than grand mother silk lol

[torn token]

They need believers to exist obviously they want control

[crystal ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-7118186382740991644

[marsh ibex]

No they don’t?

what are you talking about

[devout oak]

crawfather casually being the goat

[crystal ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hornet-teamcherry-silk-song-gif-2226554806931162265

[strange comet]

HELLO EXTINCT FISHES

[night ruin]

It sounds like people want a different story entirely rip

Atp just play ror2

[devout oak]

yes they do

[night ruin]

If you want a clear villain

[raw pawn]

The only good people in the citadel anyway are the architects and the pilgrims

[marsh ibex]

No, they don’t?

[earnest drift]

architects are kind of neutral and not in control of their actions

[devout oak]

why did the radiance create the infection then

[marsh ibex]

they don’t “need people to believe in them to exist” that’s not true

[torn token]

I did exaggerate but they do become severely weakened

[solemn tartan]

Uncle Ben the conductors were worse than both of them

[earnest drift]

the pilgrims are kind of clueless but the ones in the choir can be considered bad

[marsh ibex]

The radiance is not a pale beings

[strange comet]

That's specifically the fucking pale king

[marsh ibex]

Also why are you using ai summaries bro

[solemn tartan]

PK doesn’t need believers to live

[earnest drift]

conductors were not worse than the weavers

[strange comet]

It's a normie higher being

[fiery burrow]

Radiance is a dream entity which the Pale King White Lady and Grand Mother Silk... are not

[solemn tartan]

It’s just a natural drive for his species to have them

[devout oak]

oh yeah i thought yall were talking abt higher beings

[night ruin]

Conductors built the underworks. Fuck those guys sideways

[fiery burrow]

who here remember the fandom wiki AI summaries ❤️‍🩹

[earnest drift]

are you sure that wasn't the weavers

[marsh ibex]

The radiance is the only example of needing believers and that’s because she exists in the dream expanse

[devout oak]

no pale beings dont need believers or worship, they just want it

[earnest drift]

NO

[fresh lake]

Scam!

[torn token]

This takes balls to post with an active mod in the chat

[raw pawn]

We should agree that both the weavers and gms sucked tho

[earnest drift]

and conductors

[worn perch]

I gotta say
Team Cherry cooked when making these bosses

[marsh ibex]

Well yes

[night ruin]

We have reason to believe the shift that led to the creation of bilewater and greymoor's current conditions are relatively recent in the grand timeline

[exotic fern]

im awful at flea juggle fuck my chud life

[strange comet]

I am still confused on what the weavers did

[devout oak]

yeah but weavers sucked more

[earnest drift]

can you show me

[marsh ibex]

Honestly one thing I enjoyed was the whole cycle of abuse thing
Abused becoming abusers

[marsh ibex]

They made the citadel

[solemn tartan]

Yes, you can skip Trobbio’s fight if you watch him dance for 5 minutes. Redditors note that Trobbio will bow and leave the stage if you survive his assault, dropping the Claw Mirror as a gesture of goodwill.

[strange comet]

Oh

[earnest drift]

the weavers started the pilgrimage, a long dangerous journey where thousands died

[night ruin]

Im not rlly able to right now but if you keyword search lore chat a bit im sure you can find it

[solemn tartan]

Jojo propaganda videos

[raw pawn]

The whole pilgrimage lie, what happened in the whiteward, what happened to verdania

[solemn tartan]

The weavers were a kindly group of oppressed people that lived in fear of their demonic mother

[earnest drift]

i think verdania was caused by the haunting

[marsh ibex]

its possible to keep in my rewrite but I also really wanted the weavers to continue existing

Honestly just have more weaver boss fights

[night ruin]

Honestly the absence of a weavenest near underworks speaks for itself

[fiery burrow]

AI gotta blacklist reddit from its sources man

[solemn tartan]

Ok wait I have an opinion question

[strange comet]

Ah
The pilgrimage was by the weavers???

Shit

[devout oak]

weavers were so ass they even locked up first sinner

[solemn tartan]

Oro Mato Sheo all have the same voice whatever
Is it a detriment that FS and Widow have the same voice

[marsh ibex]

The ones that went under the citadel (majority) coulda been fights and the few could be like

lore or something like eva

[torn token]

Holy i cant search Google anymore

[strange comet]

Didn't the weavers make Eva and just abandon her?

[solemn tartan]

Yes

[torn token]

THE RADIANCE IS NOT PALE

[raw pawn]

I have a hc that all weavers sound like widow lmao

[night ruin]

And we have no reason to believe loam is so old that he predates conductor rule. Fuck the conductors my boy didnt deserve it.

[marsh ibex]

Couldn’t really take her with them

[earnest drift]

the weavers also bound widow's silk

[fiery burrow]

just learned the I miss her AI overview was edited this is so sad

[night ruin]

Loam was just 19 he shouldve been at the club </3

[rose stream]

How do I beat lost lace yall

[strange comet]

Get good

[marsh ibex]

Practice

[solemn tartan]

Yeah that’s probably conductors what with the lies about water and stuff

[raw pawn]

No need to ask practice her and good luck

[rose stream]

The duality of man

[earnest drift]

so if the conductors made the underworks, does that mean before the conductors came to power, the weavers allowed all pilgrims (that were pure) to join the choir

[strange comet]

I wonder if the weavers were homophobic against verdania

[rose stream]

What

[solemn tartan]

Likely yeah but once they got old they were turned into silkflies to guide younger guys up

[night ruin]

The old statue kind of implies weaver era church was a lot less elitist

[marsh ibex]

honestly the pilgrimage probably wasn’t as dangerous back then

[devout oak]

get stupid consistent with the first two phases and try to make the most optimal build for healing

[torn token]

Are pale beings pale because they have a connection to soul?

[raw pawn]

Go watch a video of lost lace if you wanna know all her moves before fighting her

[marsh ibex]

Yes

[solemn tartan]

Someone made a good diagram showing that this is probably the case

[earnest drift]

i think that's just propoganada

[worn perch]

I'll just list some of my favorite bosses and why I love them

Cogwork Dancers: As a rhythm game fan, non-Rhythm games having the music be a mechanic for a boss or something is always nice or see.
Khann: You sort of get into a flow state once you understand his moveset
Nyleth: Probably the most unique boss in the series aside from FotF. But I like the gimmick of Nyleth more than him.
Trobbio: TROBBIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[earnest drift]

how do you know that

[torn token]

Is soul harvested from emotions?

[marsh ibex]

no

Soul is lifeforce

[night ruin]

Its all propoganda. Thats why we use discernment.

[solemn tartan]

Soul is in the air and in all bugs

[rose stream]

Okay

[torn token]

So no life, no soul

[marsh ibex]

the haunting would logically make a pilgrimage to the citadel much more dangerous

[marsh ibex]

Yes

[strange comet]

Soul is essentially blood, shamans are Water benders and they can *bend(?) blood

[opaque sigil]

the splinters in question:

[exotic fern]

can there be a way to just like Disable sprint attacks they keep messing me up

[earnest drift]

but the judges still existed back then

[haughty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/driznit-angle-gif-4688200546563768457

What’s up bros.

[strange comet]

Who are you

[haughty marsh]

What do you think?

[night ruin]

Damn i need to learn how to draw

[torn token]

Did gms use silk to make pilgrims technically alive to try to get more silk? I might be dead wrong on this

[night ruin]

What am i doing with my life

[marsh ibex]

hm?

[solemn tartan]

Nyleth probably kept the bum splinters in check

Weavers too

Keelal working overtime

[night ruin]

I think nyleth and sister splinter are related but THATS JUST A THEORY A GAMETHEORY THANKS FOR WATCHING

[worn perch]

And then the speed of Karmelita, Shakra, Phantom, Lost Lace, and First Sinner make them all fun too

[marsh ibex]

Well I might be stupid and wrong but the judges would be more lenient about sin

Currently the judges seem to just

kill at random

[haughty marsh]

I’m just playing silksong and hollow knight interchangeably.

[raw pawn]

Best thing is that the only alive old heart isn't a higher being(aside from the green prince)

[opaque sigil]

ever since the splinters took over almost nobody makes it through shellwood

[marsh ibex]

make nyleth not a fraud then

[earnest drift]

shrma says they seem like nice people, implying they let him through

[strange comet]

If you have the time to be one you should

[marsh ibex]

all the old hearts are alive

[fiery burrow]

If you lose to a splinterhorn it might be time to pack it up

[marsh ibex]

Also don’t be ass?

Duck and weave bro

[night ruin]

Omg discord pls

[marsh ibex]

Splinters won’t get you if you’re fleet footed

[torn token]

This makes sense to me since she uses silk to gain influence over more bugs

[night ruin]

Idrk what im doing though.

[marsh ibex]

Problem is stretching to here

[opaque sigil]

mfw sister splinter creates walls of thorns trapping you

[marsh ibex]

In other servers people can’t type at all in channels

[marsh ibex]

sister splinter is not everywhere at once gng

[solemn tartan]

I mean the judges were post GMS she probably just woke up thought it was funny and told them to kill everyone

[night ruin]

Its been hitting me for about 2 hours. Probable ddos

[strange comet]

How on gabens red green cyan earth fuck did she extract a heart from a statue?

[night ruin]

I bet its localized based on region.

[opaque sigil]

Imposing old insect nesting in the heights of Shellwood. Her command of twig and branch ensured no pilgrim ever survived her territory.
ok bro

[worn perch]

Plus
Sister Splinter literally destroys her own minions and walls

[exotic fern]

can the void finish off grandmother silk already hearing her scream every 5 minutes is starting to get old

[raw pawn]

Btw if you got all the 4 hearts before getting the everbloom will they use the 3 main hearts only?

[strange comet]

What the hell even is that feature why id there a line before the text

[heady iron]

does sister splinter have siblings or is she a devout Catholic

[raw pawn]

Lmao

[night ruin]

My theory is that she is nyleth's sister

Makes sense if you look at their designs

[solemn tartan]

She’s faster than an actual warlord

[zealous elk]

did four of my quests today, one of which i forgot and the other three were bosses. here you can see two bosses i did but Tormented Trobbio didn't give me an achievement (fuck you i wanted one). also please tell me garmond is okay right he's just resting he's okay isn't he

[solemn tartan]

Well he doesn’t disappear

[raw pawn]

Tormented Trobbio is needed for another achievement

[solemn tartan]

So sure

[zealous elk]

what? in what way

[raw pawn]

There is an achievement for completing the hunter's journal

[zealous elk]

did all three with only flintslate btw

[night ruin]

Chat I’m at the store do you want anything

[marsh ibex]

that’s hornet saying that gang

Clearly pilgrims did survive shellwood

They made it to the citadel

[solemn tartan]

Her territory was probably limited

By Nyleth and Weavers

[opaque sigil]

also she hasn't always been there

[marsh ibex]

you rlly gonna take the words of a racist at face value tammo

I thought you better

[zealous elk]

watermelon gum plz

[timid plinth]

drugs

[strange comet]

What the fuck is happening???

[solemn tartan]

It is a difficult thing to explain simply…

[raw pawn]

Can you leave some for me

[arctic epoch]

canon hornet being every bad thing we can ask for is peak writing

[solemn tartan]

Brooo

[raw pawn]

Omg bruh

[zealous elk]

did all three with just flintslate btw.

[devout oak]

oh my god

[opaque sigil]

but why didn't the slaves think to shower have you thought about that

[raw pawn]

Screw this

[timid plinth]

sure thing 💛

[cobalt pilot]

It would be cool considering Splinter's needolin dialogue too

[night ruin]

No

[rancid stag]

why

[raw pawn]

You should blacklist those images atp lol

[cobalt pilot]

I don't personally see it but you could do a lot with the context given

[zealous elk]

i tried it once, figured out it was op, and then stopped trying to be so aggressive with mass tools and using so many shards when i can just take my time and do it in 1-3 tries with flintslate

[fiery burrow]

the images are different each time iirc

[strange comet]

How?

[night ruin]

I ate them all

[fiery burrow]

just ban all users that joined after 2025

[night ruin]

What kind of watermelon gum

[solemn tartan]

A certain Return of the King might not like that

[raw pawn]

I notice they send the same 4 images every time

[zealous elk]

like the extra brand watermelon gum, it should be somewhere with like spearmint gum or something

[devout oak]

yummy

[night ruin]

Dude was a royal dillhole to me he can go

[fiery burrow]

The Return of the King the type of guy to name his kid strider 😭

[rancid stag]

lowk thought you said gun

[night ruin]

watermelon launcher

[lament blade]

why is lace 1 just insanely pogoable

[strange comet]

Most times it's Logan Paul, sometimes it's Kai cenat, rarely it's Mr beast and even rarer is someone else, there's different sets of images most times

[torn flame]

Imagine DLC release

[umbral dagger]

no he's definitely dead

[heady iron]

YES I got my pregnant prince react in

[marsh ibex]

woof

[finite lava]

sigh I thought the pin was an update about the dlc

[woeful matrix]

im hollow
knight

[somber osprey]

yo

[rough dawn]

NOO OUR PIC PERMS

[velvet cape]

Now thats how you introduce a level system

[graceful dove]

Huge ping

[vast grove]

hiya

[tawdry sierra]

So does this mean we have to talk again for image perms or not? If we alrd have 300 messages?

[umbral dagger]

i tried using the needolin on zaza and got no dialogue but apparently she'll sing about them "returning to their hometown" someday

[somber osprey]

guys

[pale oasis]

heh

[abstract geyser]

baited

[candid kayak]

I sense that this is at least partially to stop the scam bots

[velvet cape]

Well done staff

[quartz ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1459686971331973353/fleapetting.webp

[woeful matrix]

this the first message i see from joker in like a month

[arctic epoch]

WE ARE FUCKING SAVED

[hollow wharf]

Oh my god I come back and I get referenced already

[zealous elk]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-indian-calling-shush-sigma-gif-7007349712143037869

[alpine wasp]

understandable, have a nice day

[rough dawn]

We're getting our pic perms skinned

[crisp heron]

tl:dr on the ping SEA OF SORROW IS OUT ON THE 27TH!!!

[lament blade]

new level system is goated

[strange night]

Losing image perms after a mute is a little goofy imho tbh ngl

[fiery burrow]

why does it say "hello happy people" if I'm miserable atm. please edit this

[tawdry sierra]

[terse cloak]

guess i actively have to chat here now

[crisp thicket]

sea of orrwo

[velvet cape]

Tbh 300 is a little low

[arctic epoch]

WE OFFICIALLY ENTER A NEW ERA OF #sk-discussion GET ON BOARD

[night ruin]

Now THIS is peak gaming

[storm dagger]

Scary...

[quartz ravine]

what happened to perms

[night ruin]

If only Silksong could be as good as pvz…

[acoustic jacinth]

Yo

[spare fractal]

whuh

[heady iron]

why'd my react get deleted
1984

[somber osprey]

IM GOING TO THE HK AND SILKSONG concert

[quartz ravine]

[abstract geyser]

sea of sorrow tomorrow

[pale bronze]

I was here for the great scourge

[silk monolith]

the server sold out 🥀

[hollow wharf]

Oh my god perms update 🥹

[terse cloak]

but im not gonna do that until tomorrow because im tired

[olive mortar]

How we feelin on the new changes yall?

[icy crow]

Shi

[lament blade]

#server-announcements

[rotund mason]

If we do get a Lace Mode as DLC, IMO it should take place during the aftermath of the ||Weaver Queen|| ending, where to get to fight ||Weaver Queen Hornet.||

[glacial kelp]

fr who does he think hes pinging

[coarse leaf]

about time an experience system was added to this server

[torn token]

Do all of us start at 0?

[tough wolf]

Could be cool

[umbral dagger]

do any of you think we'll get another hollow knight game in the next 10 years or so

[raw pawn]

Hopefully

[sullen falcon]

Hmm

[tawdry sierra]

[still tapir]

God damn it, saw the ping thought it was the Silksong DLC release date

[silk totem]

what so everyone whos already been here loses their image perms?

[urban robin]

Thought it might be dlc news im heartbroken

[pulsar pond]

I'm sure somewhere out there there's a mod of pvz as hollow knight characters 🗿

[arctic epoch]

@gloomy hill @light swan @graceful oyster @brave geyser WAKE THE FUCK UP THIS SHIT IS HUGE

[acoustic jacinth]

Lace mod? Sounds like a new 7 years wait

[barren dew]

These are sure big news

[urban robin]

Its march 5th

[silk monolith]

cool idea prolly won't happen

[leaden mauve]

WHATS HAPPENING IM SCARED

[soft belfry]

Lol

[tough wolf]

I still have em

[cobalt pilot]

BON

[glacial kelp]

wait no more free money this is a travesty…

[viral wave]

hi chat (messaging in part to check perms)

[terse cloak]

wait wot- oh nvm im at 1k messages already apparently?

[verbal trench]

meow

[night ruin]

I need this

[leaden mauve]

IS THIS THE SILKSONG RAPTURE

[barren dew]

ROSE

[cobalt pilot]

Bon did I show you my pmv storyboards

[pulsar oxide]

Silksong is silksoon

[silk totem]

im guessing they havent implemented the thingy

[compact umbra]

Image perms for 300 messages is honestly fair tho

[rough dawn]

Okay I have 600

[sleek inlet]

We can all wish my friend

[pearl peak]

Well Groal, you've defeated me. You're single handed the reason why I quit playing this game. I couldn't beat you

[zealous elk]

same LMAO

[crisp heron]

im so glad i cna use images now i was surprised i couldnt already sunce i had nearly 3000 messages

[arctic epoch]

THE MODERATION TEAM HAS GRACED US AND GIVE BIRTH TO A PATH OF ENLIGHTMENT

[tawdry sierra]

Wait let me check

[plucky barn]

OMG HOW DO I GET TO THAT DAMN QUEST TO GO TO ABYSS

[glacial kite]

We never got any alternative characters in Hollow Knight I did hear that hornet might’ve been one but then they just turned it into silksong

[barren dew]

I SAW YOU SKETCHING IN ART VC

[quartz ravine]

literally 1984

[crisp thicket]

I have like 1000+ messages

[thin charm]

literally 1776

[acoustic jacinth]

I think team cherry rushed silksong

[tidal glade]

Noice... anti scammer policy

[rough dawn]

Da horsefly

[arctic epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[elfin grove]

So i got image perms

[cobalt pilot]

OH YEAH lmao I finished them

[upper lava]

have you already tried the cheese strat

[spare fractal]

what happened

[oblique patio]

yeah, groal will do that to ya

[pulsar robin]

I thought it was about sea of sorrow

[arctic epoch]

I HAVE IMAGE PERM, HAH, Y'ALL SUCKER

[raw pawn]

At least those free money bots got murdered

[royal mason]

#hk-discussion is going crazy

[barren dew]

OH NY PEAK I WANNA SEE

[pearl peak]

What's that?

[zealous elk]

i just got dr pepper in my eyes

[night ruin]

Getting muted resets your perms 🫩

[wind pasture]

Oh I have image perm

[viral wave]

honestly really good rule

[plucky barn]

its easy just get a item

[arctic epoch]

JUST 20 MESSAGES AWAY FROM 10K POINTS

[acoustic jacinth]

Have you killed GMC with the help of the shamans?

[soft belfry]

You didn't try toolspam

[stable mortar]

me too and now im sad

[sleek inlet]

is sea of sorrow not out still..?

[wind pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/peridot-frog-perifrog-stevenuniverse-gif-5809678

[upper lava]

you can sit in the bottom right of the arena and kill him with tool spam while avoiding damage

[barren dew]

Who are these new people

[dawn leaf]

the free money bots were so annoying i'm glad they got nuked with this change

[night ruin]

So basically if you piss off a mod (bronze trophy achievement) you have to start all over

[plucky barn]

yes

[rotund galleon]

Man, I won’t be able to Image :(

[pearl peak]

Just don't get muted

[zealous elk]

no

[plucky barn]

im in act 3

[stable mortar]

hey good show

[hollow wharf]

YAYY I still have perms ^^

[tawdry sierra]

I only have vc role but not image perm? I have over 300 messages

[viral wave]

not got perms but presumably bc talked in art channel so much lol

[crisp thicket]

I still have image perms even though I don't have the roles

[strange comet]

You'd have to be such a troll to get muted, most times you can be unpunished even while saying swears most times so dw

[chrome olive]

Who has been playing Hollow knight silk song for the past week nonstop

[crisp thicket]

oh nevermind I have voice chat role

[tidal hearth]

check time

[tidal glade]

U can just spam clawline or tools on him

https://youtu.be/NmZfsv6bSO0

[quartz ravine]

now i cant shitpost in sk discussion

[terse cloak]

wait so all roles have been reset already?

[pearl peak]

What item?

[pulsar robin]

no and I'm quite sure it'll still take months

[candid crown]

Oof

[zealous elk]

what a nice n e c k

[acoustic jacinth]

Go to the capela in the beginning of the game or to songclave (I don't remember rn)

[stable mortar]

me! it would be all id do if i could

[upper lava]

tbh groal isn't even that bad once you get over the psychological aspect of it, he has pretty low health

[deft orbit]

the dreamers

[unborn comet]

#server-announcements holy useless yapping

[soft belfry]

His ads have aimbot

[rotund mason]

Silksong actually did start as simply being an alternate campaign for Hollow Knight that just got way out of hand.

[pearl peak]

I did. I keep fighting him so often, I run out of material for tools

[hybrid prairie]

bruh

[sleek inlet]

What..

[unborn comet]

Guys why are y'all still playing this game after 6 months

[oblique patio]

i just despise groal and bilewater in general, simple or not

[pearl peak]

Tried that. Didn't work

[arctic epoch]

it's fun

[deft orbit]

steel soul is hard

[plucky barn]

basically explore putrified ducts its connected or in a long room i mean really long room

[barren dew]

THIS IS SO GOOD OH MY GOF

[oblique patio]

cold take obviously but bilewater should actually get nuked

[night ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-sponge-bob-who-are-you-gif-5786527

[soft belfry]

He dies before you use all the tools if you have upgrades

[crisp thicket]

chapel, meu amigo

[wind pasture]

Same

[cobalt pilot]

YAYAYAYY

[final socket]

Did the dlc release yet?

[unborn comet]

Bro you gotta be insane to do a steel soul on silksong

[arctic epoch]

Announcement spawned an abyss worth of vessels 🙏

[fervent crane]

End of act 1

[cobalt pilot]

I'm so excited to keep working on it but I have 😿homework😿 now

[terse cloak]

chats poppin, anyway goodnight

[soft belfry]

I didn't download on release

[hollow wharf]

This is the most active the server has been in months ❤️‍🩹

[pearl peak]

What item are you talking about?

[upper lava]

if you allow yourself to plasmium overdose it's not that bad

[vivid knot]

sadly not but we live in hope

[coarse leaf]

chat too active from everyone ping

[golden karma]

Good change

[night ruin]

Oh nice

[barren dew]

IT'S OKAY

[deft orbit]

furthest i've gotten is last judge

[plucky barn]

i did i am trying to find the bell to go down

[strange comet]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[still compass]

what an everyone ping does

[pearl peak]

I apparently don't

[night ruin]

Where did that one guy go who said an announcement wouldn’t help the botspam situation?

[acoustic jacinth]

It's in deep docks

[oblique patio]

do you know what server this is insane doesnt begin to explain what some people do in hk and sk

[raw pawn]

You can plasmium overdose with all crests in steel soul

[spare kite]

is silk soul still planned or was that scrapped?

[plucky barn]

WHERE HOW THE HELL DO I GET THEre

[acoustic jacinth]

Ataaaaaaaaaa pô

[raw pawn]

Except for shaman

[upper lava]

it's really annoying to do though so you really should just be using architect

[soft belfry]

If you have ping perms and the will to risk pinging everyday this can be fixed /jk don't

[arctic epoch]

Yeah yeah keep talking, will sucks to see y'all never talk again after half an hour

this channel sucks anyways

[muted wave]

Yo

[spare sparrow]

Mr Insanity reporting for duty

[night ruin]

Chat cleanse

[soft belfry]

What do you throw

[muted wave]

Hi

[crisp thicket]

Hi

[plucky barn]

huh

[queen spire]

What’s coming out in sea of sorrows???

[halcyon crow]

when release sea of sorrows ?

[muted wave]

Wassup

[mighty crest]

tomorrow

[dense seal]

def

[arctic epoch]

sea of tomorrow

[umbral dagger]

prolly pharloom bay

[karmic trail]

damn zango is hard

[raw pawn]

True but I like the challenge

[stable mortar]

fourth chorus is my favorite boss design

[upper lava]

sea will be next week but godhome is releasing tomorrow

[oblique patio]

always bet on tomorrow

[fluid arch]

sea of tomorrow sorrow?

[raw pawn]

✅

[lime patrol]

test message (please ignore this)

[soft belfry]

He takes knock back if you follow closely you won't get slimed

[plucky barn]

anyone know where the thing to make your tools electricity is i quit doing main quest im doing side quests

[acoustic jacinth]

It's the spot alone

[golden karma]

I think the only clause I don't like is the points reset thing but wgatever

[fluid arch]

can i send a test image ;-;

[hollow wharf]

YES YES THIS IS TRUE

[night ruin]

Same same

[strange comet]

Silksong sea of sorrow tomorrow let me out of the marrow it's narrow and

[acoustic jacinth]

Near the beast fragment

[cobalt pilot]

Ooh what's the purple flag

[fluid arch]

to see if i have perms

[night ruin]

It’s far too easy to piss off some of the mods here

[upper lava]

tbh maybe i should do steel soul w/o plasmium
i'd have to get back into the game before trying anything like that, though

[rancid hatch]

oh no I have to talk here more

[soft belfry]

What's the point reset

[mental creek]

what was the ping for?

[elfin grove]

When my PC come I will

[arctic epoch]

you violated the rule enough to get muted anyways

[strange comet]

Can you read

[fluid arch]

sea of sorrow is tomorrow not clickbait trust fr fr

[marsh ibex]

the point reset thing exists so bots/scams can’t just redo the whole thing again

[golden karma]

The thing is, the mute itself should be sufficient as a punishment

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah it is fr fr

[deft summit]

yi

[light swan]

@arctic epoch whats huge

[pearl peak]

Curve claw and vaultvessels

[night ruin]

Valid actually

[deft summit]

crown

[analog moth]

Am i hk addicted

[bronze spruce]

Garten of banban dlc comes out tomorrow

[golden karma]

Ah

[arctic epoch]

NO MORE SCAM BOTS

[deft summit]

i am in the thick of it

[mental creek]

no i cant i accidently clicked marked as read and cant find it

[light swan]

oh ok

[plucky barn]

do i have to do forebrother or no

[earnest drift]

let's goooooooo

[elfin grove]

Can you also ban links

[light swan]

i thought sea of sorrows release date and crest announced or smth

[arctic epoch]

[devout oak]

yes

[strange comet]

Judging by how the announcement is phrased, are we going to have it now or later?

[golden karma]

That'd just be annoying

[unborn silo]

guys idk how to play silksong, it's just about some silks and songs

[stable mortar]

that bans gifs

[arctic epoch]

it.. really doesnt.. tbh

[plucky barn]

I HATE THAT BOSS ITS SUMMONS ARE VOID

[marsh ibex]

so you want to never be able to post a gif or yt video again?

[arctic vector]

nooo

[upper lava]

you have a button which plays your silk songs but you have to unlock it

[spare sparrow]

||Sands of Karak||

[mental creek]

so what was ping for

[arctic epoch]

the bots will just change links, and change links, and change links, and so on and so on

[acoustic jacinth]

Probably? I don't remember if the path to get there go past them, also you will have to talk to ballow too

[quartz iris]

I finally reached Act Three after a long time, and after defeating the Bell Eater, I got the babies!
I'm so so happy WAAH

[elfin grove]

No like till you have enough messages no in totality

[strange comet]

#server-announcements

[fluid arch]

guys look its sea of sorry

[quartz hull]

Can you ban messages and text?

[soft belfry]

I don't seem to have image perms but can add pic, testing perm

[elfin grove]

Aaagh

[arctic epoch]

that's.. exactly what they just did

[soft belfry]

How did it send

[acoustic jacinth]

In act 2 is a pretty good boss because he is manageable