#sk-discussion
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hiii astig hru wanna atgue about something
Yeah
YO ARE U DUMB
@graceful oyster
im like halfway through blue tools. i UNDERESTIMATED how fucking LONG this was gonna be LOL
GO TO HELP CHANNEL OMD
@open narwhal
@graceful oyster hiiii gryn hyd
This is my way of saying hello everyone
i think i can finish this today though!!!
GET TO THE DAMN HELP CHANNEL IF U DOTN WANT SPOILERS AND U WANT ADVICE
LACE ISNT EVEN THAT HARD IF U GIT GUD
Good, waking up and looking forward to my coffee!!!
Oh man me without my coffee ha ha
just hit the ignore button bro, not worth the trouble. we tried
wtff i didnt know u are a coffee drinker??
hollow knight 3
How about we all try to give advice on the easy boss rather than just saying that's an easy boss
okay so i dont know how i proced to 1st try the high halls gauntlet but it was as hard as fightting all of pharloom at once
@brave geyser
@open narwhal
fr every time they complain immediately copy and paste sk help channel
When you mention coffee beans I always give you affirmation because I eat coffee beans too 
hii lurie hru
I promise you I tried 3x and got called explatives, dw about the children
Yo me too nice job, yeah that shit was a pretty big difficulty spike ngl
Heck I drink decaf in the evenings I love the taste of coffee
is this channel good rn
why do i feel like this is gaslighting
OMG U FIRST TRIED IT HOW IT TOOK ME DAYS AND ALMOST A WEEK OR TWO IDEK
It's aight
No get out
Doing good
I died to a skull crawlie tho :< (steel soul too)
Unfortunate
gauntlets are more annoying that hard
real coffee drinkers have a cup at midnight and then reconsider their lige choices when the birds start chirping
no people are being assholes
just use cogflies and let them do all the work and your good
Except for high halls
Top 3 bosses in the game
https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1q5u82q/sea_of_sorrow_comes_out_on_january_7_2026/ well this aged like milk
i wish i could chat atm but im speedrunning, break atm for widow cutscene
Just because I'm smart about it doesn't mean I'm not real 
Maybe I should replay Silksong for like the 15th time
Then again I am trying to max crossroads rank in hades 2 and also watch jojos
people saying get gud need to get a life
and some are refusing to listen
widow cutscene is so beautiful
@native canyon shade
@open narwhal oswald
so much ego from mid players
hi.
heyyy
hiiii hyd
the citadel actually feels easier than the rest like cogwork dancers took 4 tries widow took 30 last judge took 10
they are refusing to go to help channel and get help and said why am i getting spoiled in discussion just not listening when advice was given
Citadel has this one rlly annoying boss I hope you don't spend too long on it
Player learns that getting good actually does work.
in agony but it's a cathartic agony
oh lace i got spoilet already
What is ena even about
Telling them to play the first game while also insulting them repeatedly when they only asked for advice on lace isn't really helping much
And i know they did say it's the game's fault. So what? They are gonna realise it's not soon enough anyway
pogo who
You should shoot her.
dont pogo lace
don't pogo her triple slash
Scroll up a little more before you comment buddy. I gave more advice
astig is el jibbity again yippee
If you're not familiar with which moves to pogo on just don't
yeah that
i said in some situations
rats
GUN!!!! @fickle wagon
dont pogo lace unless you know how to pogo lace
Only depending on how you feel about it. I was judging based on your clip
Only pogo lace when she's charging straight forward across the arena and not doing the triple slash or dive, that's what I'd recommend. If you can't do that just jump over her
her triple slash has a stupid hitbox you should basically never pogo that
Stupid stupid stupid triple slash
Basically because you can deal with some bosses in so many ways
smh why can't she learn from thk and pv triple slash and only slash horizontally
my brain always try to so it msot of the times work because i adapted to bad hitboxes lmao
HOW DO IGET THIS FLEA
the clue is in the screenshot
u see that entrance
Right then down
From wisp thicket
You should see ultrakill lmao
Breakable ceiling in Wisp Thicket
fr
That's not wisp thicket flea
Is it not?
That game is way too overstimulating
Oh really?
They already went through it
I thought it was that
That's the cauldron flea
~~Wisp thicket stuff. ~~ Nevermind I was mistaken.
Oh well fair I guess
The room with too many bombs
ive been playing demo holy it makes me immediately wake up
holy crap first sinner was a fun boss
@green valve
True
right down left
i dont even know how they dotn realize the exit going to it lmao not trying to hate i do the same sometimes
she would be completely unfair and annoying in a radiant mode when she stacks like 3 attacks onto each other but playing normally makes it super cool
isn't it from wisp thicket
Grynne i died to sigma and grok :(
They already went to wisp thicket
curveclaw supremacy
bro ur the only good memeber in this chat fr
Was it a steel soul?
completely shuts down any chance of her healing
I miss that flea every single time too
yeah phases
LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL IM ALMOST DONE RANTING ABOUT BLUE TOOLS
lmao
Have you done the other colors?
Barbed
yellow tools will be piss easy in comparison since i can just say "qol" and be done
Ahhhh well that sucks
red. i had a lot to say
I then died to a skull crawlie after widow
i will be doing yellow and silk skills as well but ill have much less to sya about those
just remember it gets so so worse
Why insult? It's easy if you understand how the game works.
Out of curiosity was it just critique on them as a whole or was it you talking about each tool individually
There's no point in reasoning brother, trust
u do the boss again 2times more health damage attacks speed chains aoe extremely hard to impossible to dodge attacks
That one is usually not too hard to avoid. Just be alert when she's about to stagger again π
yes because he caused the low point lol
i still have ptsd
This guy is pretty cool
Why spoilers bro
from that damn boss
I FUCKING HATE THIS SHIT STOP SPAMMING YOUR DAMN GIFS
discussion not help
Parry?
π€¨ ?
The circle?
Yea but you know he's new to the game
Counterpoint, I love it @exotic dome keep it up
what boss are you talking about bro
Specifically the green Trobbio
Lace 1
then they go to help not here this is about discussing
Green ass trobbio lover
It's funny
posting it daily =/= spamming
like the easiest boss in the game
Lace
And brotato i know it's an easy boss we don't need to hear it for the fourth fucking time today-
Nah that would be the final boss fr
i tought he wsa talking about lace 2
this is not a helpful comment, ill call this out just like ill call the guy out for not being respectful or reasonable too
Yea no iam with you and all but there was still no reason to tell him that
Oh well
if he cant beat lace 1 he wont survive the game
she never dies btw
u wont be happy later in the game btw
i watched your video and you have never used swift step once at all
regardless, commenting on how easy the boss is is not helpful especially if their mental is trash
theres a 9999x worse version of her
have you tried using your abilities for once
Why spoil
lace 2 is in the silksong trailer btw
for your flintslate analysis you could've also clarified that the dps numbers aren't necessarily reliable because you won't be able to spam against most difficult bosses
fr like the damn SHAW attack silk skill in mosshome
you had a mini-tutorial to use swift step before unlocking the door to lace surely it's intuitive to know it's a dash/run move
did you ever play hollow knight
not intuitive to a new player that hasnt played hk
I gotta say tho like 5 hits just from flintslate is already wonderful
Nope
Expect every ability to be useful in combat at some point
Do you not know how to β ?
im pretty sure it's still intuitive
Why the fuck are you playing silksong without having played hollow knight
my flintslate analysis was mostly calling this shit stupid broken i only used the dps numbers to illustrate a point
Soar:
and also for the hunter agenda because i really though hunter would have higher dps
ok tbh a lot u can do about that
evolved hunter does
I have beaten steel soul!
even to someone that immediately goes into this chat to curse at the game, the boss, the devs, and everyone trying to give advice rather than, i dont know, looking at the boss and trying to learn their moveset or anytthing?
Wdym soar is the meta
Magma bell
WWW
Its so cool
nope
Gratz!!
good shi my guy
act 3 ending or act 2
i gotta keep my mouth QUIET now though wanderer and beast both mog the shit out of us π΅βπ«
Act 2
the next version will be prime mike tyson
lost lace
bro its lace 1
you yell at gifs but send this cursed shit?
ITS LITERALLY LACE 1 BRO
is it good? no
and the last mohammed ali
only with spam but we both know hunter has better tech
Not useful in combat 
BOY UR NOT GONNA SURVIVE LACE 2
this is still not helpful brotha
against the void tendrils screen attack
this isnt a help channel
Needolin
I'm Wanderer, and I find it bad that you would consider me the same as these Reaper hating cultists spreading their stupid beast propaganda.
" usefull "
strongest average dos of today vs strongest average dos of history
People can not be familiar with these type of games
You can just hang on one wall the whole time
If you play it really hard groal goes to sleep and drowns
still not constructive to say stuff like that to someone asking for help in earnest
And even king von died
moral of the story get the glock
I was boutta make a comment on that
I would never drown groal the goat
Later in the game
YOU CANNOT UR JUST AT LACE 1
Donβt think you can at that point of the game
How is lace 1 hard
Pretty sure you're too early
Bro like i could understand lost lace and lace 2 but bro lace 1 is js moss grotto difficulty ahh
I hate the green trobbio with passion. And I have enough cursed images to react however I want.
I guess she's like a harder hornet 1 and people have called her a skill check
ok now this is a silk issue
you're gonna feel pretty ass one day when you start a game, get stuck on a part, ask for help, and someone reacts to you just like this. that's all ima say on the matter
...
silk issue
Bell beast is harder than lace 1 vruh
Bro IM STEEL SOUL KING wdym πππ
because this isnt a damn help channel
This
do i have to release the ass jim files
? hes ez
Steel soul easy mode btw
π€·ββοΈ alr
quit and uninstall the game and get hollow knight first
π
i've struggled on lace 1 before as much as i struggled vs hornet protector
"Quit peak and play slop"
now i'm more confident i can beat her first try
ts made in blender?
slop (not actually ) is necessary training
If he struggles with lace i dont think he will beat hornet
Anyway, this chat sucks rn, ima go somewhere else
Idk
Ok? goodbye?
Bye
ok?
Boy is not gonna survive moorwing and savage beastflyππ
Bye
I first tried lace 1 I think, found her to be a hornet rip off
moorwing before nerf 1hour
like exactly 1hour
Same with phantom and lace 2 kinda
damn
Lost lace is the only lace fight that really took me learning
dont drop this guy in sands of karak pre nerf bro. his brain will implode
Good that you find it fun, now piss off with your unnecessary commentary.
What about First Sinner?
You got this man we believe in u 
me cause i actually git gud instead of complaing
completely different bosses and u complain π
Quit the game
I'm not complaining?
Bro is not even probably using swift step bro
Pls stop the git gud shit
bro STOP complaining π©
Its annoying
Bro how can u be so bad at lace 1
Still her?
im saying it to myself
I think lace is way better than hornet
Are you a dumbass u could have gotten hollow knight first before silksong
Hype bait
If you arent having fun then why even continue
π again, not helpful to say, but icl this is true
The game only gets way harder
Gotta make that money's worth
It's true though and it isn't critizism. If I were to struggle with Mossmother, what else would you say?
First sinner didn't take me as long as lost lace iirc
Good
Woah woah woah what the fuck
<@&283547423706447872>
Give actual advice
But did you have to learn her patterns?
they really gotta close this channel everyone sucks
same thing i did get hk 102% it and true ending almost all charms and next play silksong again
Aww man, what did I do?
bro getting motivated
Winter sucks
where are mods when you need them cro
sunk cost fallacy
Yeah sorry I mean't lost lace is the only hornet like boss that had me learning the attacks
I disagree
that person been like this the entire time finally someone did it
YES HE'S GONE
What happened
I mean they left
Yahoo!
one person said a slur after being bullied for hours by everyone else because this channel is terrible
this is when i started opening my mouth more, when he started talking to me like this too after giving genuine advice, and then im like yeah this makes no sense get the first game
He was overreacting but ppl were also making it worse
I know
Okay. I guess you mean bosses functioning as a player.
Iβm looking into it
For hours is insane
Bosses like karmelita, cursed gms and first sinner had me learning too
bullied is an exaggeration although now this @green valve might have been
Yes
no
Now i see what you mean i didn't think he was being that aggressive
Why can't hollow knight or Silksong fans be normal
This also happened yesterday but a lot of it was Blizly complaining in the form of asking for help, refusing to consider actual advice, and took to heart all the unhelpful comments in between
Because its a large fandom
IDK LEMME ASK MRS. WANDERING CREST AND MR ZOTE π
Lowk the game's difficulty only peaks at like widow
But anyway
After that everything else is a joke and iam not exaggerating
Why did you put normal and Hollow Knight/Silksong in the same sentence?
that person was refusing to listen a good amount didnt listen to advice said ganging up while they literallly got good advice and refused didnt go to help channel and said why spoiling after i told to go help channel also beign toxic a few times
Okay.....?
i was making a joke about how you are married ot both of them i guess it went over your head or thje joke was ass
I'm sorry we are abnormal we need to die πππππ
I donβt know why youβre telling me this
Theyβre banned
How, I found widow to be a sorta hard skill check but I think most bosses after her were harder
I know that but I'm the one asking
thank u
But the other people who made unhelpful comments and acted like assholes will also get punished
Because you unlock so much more upgrades and variety after her
well i might be cooked
Ah yes, the most normal Hollow Knight fanart to ever exist.
Oh true
If someone is struggling pls don't make fun of them
People might not be familiar with these type of games 
You can go ahead and look at my message history for the context, guy was immature, it was not unprompted bullying
somebody needs to forcibly disband the fandom of every game anyone has ever considered hard
I said abnormal
we tried
did we bully that guy to leaving
Maybe mount fay counts too but idk if it's considered hard enough or no
βGo and play the first gameβ is also stupidly unhelpful advice
what a good community
who says that
Nah he got banned
that isnβt even any advice
wha happa
For saying a slur
I know it's easier and whatever but that still doesn't help
They left and I banned them afterwards because they used a slur
It's ONLY good if someone is genuinely interested to know about hollow knight
the guy got bullied into saying a slur because nobody can act like a human
what the hell did i walk in on
its recommended
Seriously even after i did hog all bindings i still struggled
Thank god I wasn't here during my first playthroughs, don't want people to see my rage essays for like every boss
not said u have to but for lore and to actually be prepared yes u should
I disagree with stupidly unhelpful ? It makes no sense to come in here and say the game or the devs are trash when you are a brand new player that hasn't played the first game. But this isn't even the advice that was given at first
Pantheons?
I started chatting after i finished the game
Radiant hall of gods
These two can't meet in the same sentence
all bindings
the guy was behaving weirdly but you do not need to bully the shit out of people that are bad at the game
what is going on π
Most of it is rng anyway.
at most maybe like ping mods or something cause he did get weird but like dude
I died 80 fucking times to savage beastfly still.
i crashed out hard at savage beastfly lowkey
2 right......?
No 2 was free ass
I really donβt care if you disagree
Telling someone to play the first game when they struggle with the second is useless and will just piss them off
People need to realise not everyone will be good at hollow knight or Silksong like seriously why are people expecting new players to magically do good
nothing will make you hate this community more than this server feels like in every facet of the game there's some annoying toxic loser
we didnt force
yeah
I'm so tired of this fandom
π
im honestly already tired of being here for today i'll go finish my doc
or atleast some
Sure man, do you, I'm just setting the record straight that people only started to say anything when he started calling everyone slurs, it wasn't just unprompted bullying
When you don't instantly kill the flying * * * * ' s they will most likely kill you.
We are stuck in a loop
Good thing I'M not an annoying toxic loser 
Team cherry probably feels like oppenheimer for creating "git gud"
im still trying to comprehend whats even happening rn
yea but i had threadstorm so
As for savage beastfly 1 i genuinely refused to get off of it right after getting drifter's
I'm just waiting for oomfs to become active here that's when it's fun
nah that would be the dark souls community
its more liek get tuu or get guh tbh it sounds like
Julynae 
@native canyon
if you give useless advice to someone who is wanting actual advice
and if they see comments like βrefund the gameβ or βplay hollow knightβ
Thatβs basically bullying
lurenya 
Gulps I know we aren't moots but do I count
@last dew
I too used threadstorm to cleanse the arena of them.
using slurs is not at all valid
pushing someone to the point where they use a slur is also not valid
yes
we tried saying help channel rememberthey tried using this channel for help
YAAAAAY
Weirdly enough every other boss took me less than 10 attempts
oh my fucking god
Hell karmelitta took 4
I give up
people can ask for help outside of the help channel if they want to
Broodmother is a sin
Genuinely hate it here
Lock the channel!!!
just warn people and move on
π Alright man well thank you for your time
This channel is like being in a maze where if you ask for direction you just get told to dig down
savage beastfly took more attempts than lost lace on my first playthrough
on my second playthrough i first tried it and i just sat there like ???
HELLO NERDS
or if u go to help they tell u dig through the walls
nuh uh
About right for 2nd playthrough
alright now that i have 100%'d steel soul
im sorry but silksong coming out just feels surreal to me
This server is a prison but i choose the bread
its time to do a full cursed crest run
There is no way someone already made a mp mod
This is just the channel, only that I actually love Bilewater. And I'm not joking either, I love every second of it.
Cro what π
its been out for a while
Mp?
Bilewater is amazing
multiplayer
Yes
more pogo
bilewater π
Peakwater
when we getting peak hornet skins doe
I really need to know if the code from the original could have been directly ported and it just worked
Watch people burn you alive for not hating the kingdom like 150000 other players
people have been okay with bilewater as of late
bilewater is peak but i hate it because of how its made to be its made to be a skill check
teto
me when the bile is water
Omw to read what people be writing here and i see "lore bad", game bad, life bad
No no he said peak
they just need to realize the ducts are also awesome
No bilewater still gets hate
Not teto
alaskian
thx for photo
July
kill him
My pleasure, I'd love to see it used more.
Ducts >>>> bilewater
Fuck you.
ducts has benches and wreath of purity
ducts > bilewater
I think maggots are mid but literally everything else is so fucking good
that one friend no one invited
alright baby. cursed crest save made
Sinner's road > bilewater
People be trying to say anything
sinner's road isn't even enjoyable there's nothing cool about it
sinnners road > sinners road
the only cool part about sinners road is ass jim
Bilewater
There is DAT ASS though
sinner's road atmosphere is cool but that's about it
sinner's road has some of the coolest lore out of any region wdym
WE all love ass jim. ON EVERYONE'S soul
i said sinner's road
Deep docks feels comfy if it's winter
its cool because if u use hollow purple aka the electric purple thing i forgot while he is trying to vacuum u he stops the attack
Roach pens
karak is the best area
I love how sinners road can turn a single room into its own mini path of pain
that's about it
-Cool platforming
-Peak Music
-Peak detail
-peak bossfight
-peak game mechanics
-peak
-peak
-peak
verdania and greymoor are like second snd third best
and no one can do shit about it
i liked the mist before solving the puzzle a little
wait a second.
Verdania is unfortunately mid
the area itself is pretty frustrating but i liked the vibe
Mount fay was peak
fertile soil
peak memes also
Choral chambers, shellwood and bilewater tops
not even a real spot in existence anymore the way it used to be, cant count verdania
if i'm starting with cursed crest... how will i bind
OH wow. i just straight up binded with cursed crest lmao
you can still bind with cursed crest
Let the roots consume you
How will you get abilities
I have only two though.
i saw a jjk hollow purple using reapers crest polip pouch and cogfly with actual good animation
that's the fun part. u dont
do you get iframes after binding with cursed?
the game let me straight up bind
Wait that's a genuinely good question
and heal masks
WHAT happens if you get abilities with cursed crest
There is no binding
Ah that one. I tried downloading it, but it didn't work sooo......
the game stops u
doesnt work
oh
y'know how the cursed roots go around u when binding? samet hing with abilities
that's fucking lame
Oh
dumbass parasite im making its host stronger
now i used this mod and started with architect crest once. it removes those silk covering bell beast and stuff
so i won't need to worry about softlocking myself
oh boy this is gonna be torture tho
Just hitless silksong
i wonder if there's anyway i can glitch my way into areas with the bind tho
What about swift step and so on?
bindless silksong*
oh shit... i haven't thought of that...
i wonder if theres a hornet skin for pizza tower
Widow probably, and possibly also Lace 1 lever.
3 hit silksong
maybe the mod developer thought of it?
he probably did considering he thought of the silk covering bell beast
or maybe u can still get abilities but can't equip them with this mod
You should get the four movement abilities, as the game requires them for you to have. At least to a certain degree.
y'know i only know about the cursed crest preventing u from getting other crests
but does it even prevent u from those weaver statues?
Did you though?
?
i almost got a 4 minute pb on my speedrun but i died in high halls 3 timesa aaaaaaaaaaaaa

final wave death tilted me im so depressed
im remembering, they never actually revealed sharpeβs second partner
dumb birds
Tf are these replies??
i wonder if we'll get the city of steel in a dlc or future game
it HAS to be dlc
yo my game froze on this frame
what is hornet doin
honestly it's been a while since i've seen the normal hornet skin
more act 3 shit so its good
i'm gonna disable the mod
Why do I have neck pain?
Sharpe is planned to show up at some point so itβs not unlikely
Why is it perfectly round though....
"Git gud"βsomeone on this channel probably
i hope he's harder than absrad
He better be fun
Why do you even want this? Go mod your weird bosses and leave us alone.
that's all i care about
The guy on the right is still lost media
Absrad is a pushover he better be harder than radsly
rotund
????
most pointless crashout
we all love difficulty creep 
bro came straight at my throat just cause i wanted a harder boss lol
Skong had a few bosses that i struggled more with than absrad
old hearts and karmelita π
nothing in silksong is even close to absrad imo
he's build like a pinstress
I think AR specifically just was not designed sensibly tbh
Why do people think absrad is hard at all i really can't see it
nyleth and khann both being such utter jokes:
hardest boss for me was karmelita and i found it about on par with nkg/pure vessel
nyleth was a bit of a challenge for me, i beat gp and khann first try though
Sly
the only time i died in verdania was in that one gauntlet
Groal took chunks out of my soul the first time and so did LL
meth
damn
the tool voltvyrm gives you is fake. hornet actually just eats a battery
groal isnt even hard the runback is just annoying
Khann is a joke, but I will not accept this Nyleth slander
Obviously I think you can get good enough at the boss to beat her consistently, even consistently hitless, but I think the path to that skill level is lame. @opaque sigil
Both are easy
Absrad's just a hella dissapointing boss icl
Ragebait 0/10
No design changes, no new attacks,
No the attack pattern changes did matter. If a bit uninspired
I wasn't really trying to criticize absrad most of my issues with her are more her being conceptually lame as a superboss rather than actual difficulty I was just joking about sharpe getting overtuned
absrad is absoluteslop
lowkey never needed to suffer with groal runback because i am based and don't have a skill issue so i killed him first try
there's a new phase
I mean yeah it's faster wow
the big change with absrad is that attacks can overlap, thats what makes her so hard
That is the most stupid complaint I have heard today.
That does one thing, which isn't really bad at all
Yeah, go and and fight base radiance, see how that changes stuff up
No like the difference's there but it could've been more
Base radiance did this as well
HOLY FUCK if there was 0 difference
Yes but this would be making the boss harder than it already is
Not necessarily
<@&283547423706447872> sorry joker
<@&283547423706447872>
<@&283547423706447872>
Lace 2
Failed Champion
White Defender
Nightmare King
(some have extra attacks, but Radiance essentially does too, when she throws a bunch together)
3 mod pings
I will not accept this White Defender and NKG slander
English-only rule, pls
Not really.
Nkg has new attacks aswell kinda
IT ISN'T SLANDER THAT'S THE POINT
he's going to be banned in a sec anyway
Lace 2's a rematch
Technically just one.
And has mixups
old attacks r modified
What do you mean with that?
is nyleth hard im still getting my ass kicked by seth
seth is harder than nyleth dw
not if you remember clawline exists
she's one of the easier hearts
Arena sweeps naturally overlapped with her face projectiles very often, base radiance has overlap for sure yeah

Can catch you off guard with varying patterns
nyleth is a very fun gimmick boss i really liked her
Which applies too Absrad too...
me too, I wish I could refight her, she was fun
nyleth felt really monotonous to me but whatever
I think ive grown liable to forgive nyleth being so easy given that her heart is basically two bosses.
But yeah she wasnβt super interesting which imo is worse
Okay this is starting to get annoying, the game keeps resetting my controller settings whenever I exit the game. Iβm saving at benches so itβs not like Iβm doing anything to cause this.
How dare Team Cherry give us easy bosses!!!
im waiting til we can refight bosses before i do steel soul
well, you're gonna wait a LOT
Silksong suckass anyways 
My favorite heart is khann, I donβt mind easy bosses I mind boring ones
normalize easy bosses i lowk don't want to die
So true
easy bosses that are interesting are good
idm, im not in any rush lol
Nyleth's pretty cool i wish her balls from the ground attack could hit you
Also you can choose to make any boss easy by spending shell shards 
Khann was kinda dissapointing considering the aura he has in the real world
Khan's bossfight includes the gauntlets. Nyleth's fight includes Seth the destroyer of worlds.
Like it saves all of my progress so why is it resetting my mappings
I don't wanna get started on how much I dislike that system 
You can also expect those coming from 5 miles, since rad is more readable
Hitless khann made me respect khann very much
Sure....
bro's doing his absolute best to honor Seth's memory
i only killed the easiest one so i have no frame of reference
Only one fight bars the khann fight once you get through the gauntlet. Which is actually equivalent to karmelita (or easier, if you count east far fields as a gauntlet lol)
you killed Khann?
well, she's not that harder than Khann
Rad doesn't really play with windup anims that much aswell
i like how each of the hearts tests something different
Shell shard system is bad though tools are good additions
NYLETH TESTS THE HUNTER POGO POWER
<@&283547423706447872> it might've been missed but this person was spamming nsfw images
Well I did it all in one go. Team Cherry just made it easier so people don't ragequit.
Does that mean gay prince test your homophobia?
Shell shards or the idea that you can nuke bosses
shell shards
Khann's pretty cool i wish he had like a melee attack
Karmelita tests your bossfight abilities, Khann tells you to survive his gaunglets, and Nyleth tests your ability not to cry with that OST
green prince is more about the region than the boss i feel
but also yes
Shaman crest is the closest thing to the knight not wanderer
I wish verdania had perm rewards
I think I wouldnβt mind shell shards as much if half the secrets werenβt shard deposits
shell shards would be a lot less annoying if they simply refunded shards used prior to death but nope
fr
that too
you can 100% the game without ever freeing green prince
Well yes, but actually no.
Shaman is the Knight with Grubberfly's Elegy
yeah, thats kinda the point
The range sucks in comparison.
I think they should have been craftable from rosaries too. So you donβt leave a fight (like say, lace at the bottom of the abyss)
To go and buy more shards
Shard deposits that always fall into spikes too 
Had no fucking reason to kill a griefing gay prince btw π
"worth it"
Gay prince jumped hornet doe
the only time ive ever had a problem with shell shards is when im doing architect shenanigans
DID SOMEBODY SAY GREY PRINCE?
did you know that clover dancers lasts less phases than the clockwork dancers
this is a subtle reference to hornet's inner homophobic nature causing her to fight harder
Mf didnt seem to mind AND THEN switched up
Green Prince should've picked up painting
well this wouldn't help with that, frankly leaving the lost lace fight just sucks so bad I don't think that's salvageable with anything other than letting beastling call work down there or adding an extra bellway
green prince
Green Prince Zote
"man, we're out of shards, we gotta farm more"
Hornet: "I mean, we have this stat-"
"I SAID WE'RE OUT OF SHARDS"
I like the grey one more
So true
and being craftable from rosaries wouldn't help that much since dying loses all your rosaries
Hmmmm 
So he can become, some kind of paintmaster.. yk
The Eternal Verdania
The yellow tool in question. Also, just farm shards before going to THE final boss? Like, tf else you gonna spend them on.
Green Prince should have imagined harder and put Hornet outta her homphobic nature by dumping 9 pages of lore on her as an entry chapter
it's like he's in some king of palegrave
Gotta leave now, bye! Don't silk your song!
I think it would just be a really simple fix to refill your tools when you respawn, it's true that would let you deliberately kill yourself to regenerate shards for free but I don't care
yk what would have aura
Then theres the issue
you're wanting a game+ mod
Chills
fighting lost lace with architect
Or... touch sum grass
and both you and ll are about to die
Green Prince giving Hornet psychological damage by remembering in detail the exact memory of the Citadel turning his husband into two robots
Wouldn't be as bad as like save quit warping ig
I just want the game not to actively disincentivize experimenting with the system by punishing you for failing on attempts that use it
Wow
and you're out of shell shards
I donβt think that has anything to to with ng+
Who tf killing themselves after every boss just to regenerate shellshards
and you break the statue to make more tools to defeat her
If you're going through that effort might as well let them have it
that'd be sad
it wouldn't even really regenerate shards it would just let you refill tools and it would be easy enough to prevent that anyways
So cruel
So the way an experiment work is that you try, and fail, and note to self to not repeat what has just failed.
I believe the word you're looking for is "practicing" but then again, there's not Red Tool that require intensive practicing that like 3-4 deaths can't fix
Khann's bossfight was too easy considering the aura he had
I mean, look at this
How to go back to Hallownest?
This place suuuuuuucksss
Why would you make a mental note to not use a particular tool
this goes way too hard for a boss like him
First DLC btw, the aurafarming had JUST only started
as in "not to do that again because it clearly just fucking failed" not "this tool suckass"
is there a way to get out without taking lace
You aren't failing because the tool doesn't work you are probably failing because you don't know the bosses patterns
I wonder if they'll add anything for tools in a bossrush mode, that or they will force you to stay with a few tools for like 10 bosses
also the fact that you can hear him yelling at you from the bottom of the Coral Tower is way cooler than he had the right to be
infinite shards during that section
I don't use tools anyways so idc
What the shellshard system does is either force the player to go grind shellshards which is boring or not use tools for bosses so you don't have to do the former which is also boring
also why does Silkshot spend shards?
Sekiro ran into the same issue with a nearly identical system
Well if it's in a dream like in hollow knight you probably don't need shards
and it would be so comically easy to fix
it could be a memory, where you don't need them either
Outside the architect's reload
my theory is that it'll be the memory of the Godseeker (or Grimm, but that's more unlikely)
Huh? No discourse? What a miracle
Like using the highest shell shard tools with architect for 10 bosses in a row lol
100% gonna just cheat spirit emblems in if I replay it

I never really needed to grind shellshards cuz they're just so plentiful
Wdym boring
it only takes me like 20 minutes to farm 2k rosaries and buy shards (including runtime from anywhere on the map)
and you can just, like, buy them are nearly every shop
Bosses are not placed next to shops
I only lacked shards once cuz of beastfly
I barely used any red tool ever in my playthroughs
the way tools are gonna work is probably the same as they do currently
A hundred plagues be upon your shaw
That's why I never run out of shards
Same I only use tools for spam damage
just with the fact you can rest every few bosses
through the entirety of act 1 and most of act 2 I never ran out of shards
How often did you use tools on bosses you were stuck on
Outside dwelver's drill which shouldn't be a tool imo
yeah there's that too
Yeah shards never seemed to be an issue for me, even if i run out, i have my handy needle
True, but the prosthetics are balanced enough so they can be used without running out of spirit emblems in gauntlets/reflections without major issues. Canβt say the same for Silksong if GodMaster releases that way
RadHog gonna be so free β€οΈβπ©Ή
"what if I run out of shards, I'll have to farm them" meanwhile the average enemy dropping two hundred shards
we just making shit up now ok
I am hoping off skong forever if that happens
with pendant, the average Reed drops 10 shards
why is craftmetal rare if its being sold for 60 rosaries in bone bottom?
I mean if they have refights it probably will be the case that you could just choose to blast through nohits with tools
one tool costs 4 shards
A whopping ten shards
one Reed is worth 2 tools
For an act 2 enemy π₯
nobody is arguing it's not possible to grind shards people are just saying it's lame
It's rare as in finding them, since most are in hidden areas
Bindings: No red tools, no yellow/blue tools, limited masks and cursed silk bar
the bindings are probably gonna be cursed crest
cursed crest can't heal innit
would be weird for a binding system
hi chat
the stilkin and groal probably lvoe doing this
We're thinking too shallow
Crest-binding
Attack-binding
Mobility-binding
Fuck, they can even handicap Hornet for retcon and it will still be a binding praised by the entire fanbase
only so many ways to pass the time in bilewater
my theory is that we'll be able to find Godseeker('s corpse) in the Abyss and enter her memories to access the Pantheons
and instead of Radiance as the final boss, it'll be the Shade Lord
twin..
there's no way hornet is beating shade lord tho
? what?
Forgive me
is binding painful for hornet too, she seems to scream awfully loud while doing it
the pinstresses aren't Stilkin
Shade lord for hype moments and aura π₯π₯
i just think a fight voided god seeker (Lost Seeker) will happen
Hornet is NOT fighting shadelord and we are NOT getting godseeker's corpse
yo, did anyone else think the silksong ending was anticlimactic?
it's just a gut feelin
I don't think Hornet saying "WREN!" means she's feeling the worst pain ever when she's literally healing
i think i would enjoy the witch crest pogo
One of the worst pogos though. Possibly THE worst.
meeee
I MEAN BINDING FOR A NEW CREST OR ABILITY OR WHATEVER
all my homies hate act 3
why not?
Ah lol
What
Steel Soul gamers trembling in the first act three gauntlet
Should I give my arguments?
Shade Lord is the literal god of their reality afaik, it's aight to not want to fight the biggest most badass fucking guy you can find
Keep the status and the lore yk 
TRUE
they think godseeker and grimm are coming back
That gauntlet was just fucking toxic.
The fact that I'm soon going to fight it 
honestly? wasn't that bad when i did it
got hit once
It's just like 3-4 enemies but their void attacks are whole jack
Aren't you literally one hit from the start?
altho tbf i DO main hunter crest
2 hits actually.
gl
What about sawtooth pogos
I mean, it'd make sense if the final boss of a Pantheon inside the memories of someone who died to Void was Void
I do too (somewhat) but it is still devious.
also if u really don't wanna risk it. u can save and quit as soon as u wake up and you'll come back with all masks
altho y'know. some people don't wanna do that
I still have to explore Sands and Bilewater before going for the third ending but I'll get there in one day perhaps
What do you mean? The only non-crest pogo is delvers drill.
sawtooth pogos is a tech
buddy was not paying attention to act 3s ending
Do you know what a sawtooth pogo id
also known as Spogo
it could be not a serious fight
You mean the clawline sweat shit? Either way, I don't count the use of tools (except for delvers I guess).
he sent a gif like right there
what's a tech?
clawline is an ability
oh yeah, because surely the God of Gods is going to have a non serious duel with someone 50x smaller their size
So pushing aside the fact that Hornet will somehow access godseeker's memories in Pharloom
Why would we fight Shade Lord? What to seek from a sibling now a part of a god? How would we even win a being that bitch-slapped the strongest form of Radiance?
Grimm did it once
GOD SEEKER will be the LAST BOSS of pantheon of PHARLOOM
That isn't the pogo though, if you use it because of sawtooth tech.
I will be the last pantheon boss
regular or nightmare king
regular
and his main ability will be sending hornet through phantom versions of different bosses
dude thats part of his show hes doing a dance
dude that's what sawtooth pogos is
also hes not a god
it's what that gif shows. sawtooth pogos/Spogos is what that gif shows
it's just what it's called
godseeker is DEAD, the reason we no more hear of a godseeker is because seeker is a verb for someone who is ALIVE
spogos binted
it's not A pogo with sawtooth circlet it's just called like that
he will become voided god seeker
Lost god seeker. Lost god. lost seeker
Ain't Godseeker a girl
We are so cooked π
is binding for new crests painful for hornet, cuz she scream loud af while doing it
okay, I get it
better idea: Lost Grand Mother Silk
godseeker is female
Idk, would reshaping your literal nature hurt you?
girls
it's time we get creative
Whats a fun off meta build to bring into the dlc
WHAT THE HELL IS T H A T
Lost GMS just seems... boring
hm...
Lost Radiance
i unironically dont know the answer to that question
there's probably gonna be some sort of Prime GMS boss fight
what if the true final boss is silk infused into void, twisted into a horrifying form
why do all of my tools do significantly less damage than all of the guides. Is the difference from hivesteel to whatever the max one is really that big
imagine if your brain got rewired while you're still conscious
do people with multiple personalities feel pain when switching personalities?
You just want a big ass boss to fight so you can feel like you accomplished much more than fighting someone your size, don't you? 
i mean technically your personality IS your nature
tool upgrades
tools upgrade separately
where
yeah wouldn't that just be like having multiple personalities technically?
what would y'all wanna be the pantheon final boss
its literally just pressing double jump right before pogoing for very good damage its not even hard π
no. I mean, yes, but no
also fighting Radiance in Silksong would be cool
i think the forge daughter sells one
Depends, like really depend. And you can't really bridge disorders to a fictional bug world, but depends
well... no, but I can see why you'd make that connection
anyone knows todays wordle also this damn creep krat
I BEAT THE GAME
LETS GO
I'm actually so happy
clink
Now do it again.
And again.
And another time.
and then do it steel soul
is my crest alr for the ||forum|| in ||high halls||?
if you all had the abillity to create the final boss for silksong
what would you make it
i feel no achievement for beat lost lace cuz nothing changes
and then do it with mods. and then do it blindfolded
gg
id swap straight pin for voltvesses or sting shard, And swap pollip pouch for literally anything
I got the parasite ending
my FIRST EVER time fighting GMS was while crippled
Anyway, here is my opinion on Pogos
Hunter:
Very usefull for keeping yourself out of range, while also dealing damage.
Beast:
Good, but not for everyone. Some hate it, some love it. Personally I find it to be pretty bad, since it changes the aspect of what a pogo is.
Reaper:
The perfect pogo, being extremely forgiving and easy to use.
Wanderer:
The pogo you would use to keep it simple. It isn't great at everything, but it isn't bad at anything either.
Shaman:
A pretty good pogo, and always useful.
Architect:
While some think it's bad, I personally love it. It's just an infinite tool, and it can be charged to be used how you like.
Witch:
While good in combat, it is terribly unforgiving for platforming. You get directly pulled down, hence not being able to pogo on spikes that you're too close to.
All in all, I consider Reaper, Shaman and Architect to have the best pogos. After that come wanderer, hunter and witch, while the my least favourite is beast.
vs The Hollow knight & The shade lord
but pollip pouch gives poison
nerd
nah, Purple Cogflies is op
how fast can you make your binds in game
The damage boost is actually pretty negligible iirc
Reaper also kinda has the issue witch has.
btw ball or syring vess
does magma bell work on seths slam attack
reaper does let u fall just a slight bit when starting up
do you have Fractured Mask? Use Fractured Mask
o ok
no i dont
fractured mask helped me survive high halls
oh.
then go get Fractured Mask
if i didnt have it i would've died
no
How so?
i just remember i still dont got fractured mask
then DIE
i beat the game without gettin it
nah i refuse
it basically pulls u down the same as witch. altho not sure if it's to the same extent
Imagine being able to write full sentences.
it's probably miniscule enough to not be noticable normally. but i do notice it when using it
btw how many tools do i need for the architects key i got 19
thatd yesterday tho oh im cooked im in australia im in the future
maybe i'm juts really nitpicky
Witch pogo best pogo
it looks cool
Shaman crest has such a "go my scarab" dash attack
honestly the bad part about beast crest pogo is the fact it pushes u forward before starting up
It is far less, and the range makes up for it. It has a slight delay, but that doesn't affect your platforming in any way (unless you are a pixel away from the spikes).
Why is nyleth is grand gate
reaper
like if it didn't have that it would be Top tier pogo
Shes in a part of shellwood accessible through grand gate
It would be good if it actually went downwards.
Slow and the startup is lame
honestly? the fact it goes horizontally is actually really cool
platforming wise it might be uh not so good
big hitbox makes up for it
i like wanderers crest
but in fights? it's really good
Skill handicap
y'know. after doing this cursed crest run.
why doesnt magma bell work on seths slam brah thats stupid
that shit isn't flames bro
Because he does not have fire attacks 
makes pogoing on fast dash attacks alot less risky
Yeah i agree with witch not being great in platforming
y'know at first i was gonna leave seth on my steel soul. and do gay prince instead
Bro's in a forest and expects bro to have fire attacks lmao
but i realized i was under the 30 hour mark and i could possibly finish the game under 30 hours and get that achievement aswell.
so i gambled on fighting seth
because thats his only 2 damage attack
or one of his only
To beast propaganda guys like mehieddenn. It is apparently good, but I really just don't get it. Why not clawline, dash attack or anything else?
doesnt his slashes do 2
the best part about beast crest is the fact it gives u like ALOT of i frames
All his attacks deal two except for the shield throw iirc
does this not look like flames to you
Because he's fast enough to make fire. Idk.
u can phase through enemies with how much i frames it has
