sk-discussion

[rugged bridge]

i actually thought it was part of the game before i looked it up lol

[orchid locust]

hornet is a weaver supremacist

[golden karma]

Literally says these flies should stop breeding

Hornet red maiden agartha phonk

[crystal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silk-song-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-hornet-gif-9486712578214888028

[open narwhal]

Good morning to the one who does not give up
Whenever he stumbles, he gets up, and whenever he makes a mistake, he corrects it.
Whenever he failed, he tried, and whenever the days insisted on making him frown... he smiled against her will. ❤️

[ebon magnet]

Whenever he fought Groal for the last time without knowing about the secret bench - He deleted his file

[open narwhal]

that is also true

kill groal

[plucky stag]

can you blame her

when they leave you to freeze in the cold in a dark cage without any clothing it's no surprised she was absolutely furious

[storm bone]

I thought it was fun but yea she's a little too fast

The zaza beetle guy
Was WAY too easy compared to her 💀

[ebon magnet]

Hey guys is First Sinner hard

[pallid cargo]

No, I think it’s hilarious and deserved

Almost every other hunter’s notes has something kind, wise, or important in it

Meanwhile for the Wardenflies she basically says “These fatasses smell like shit and act like toddlers, I will murder all of them if I have to.”

[ebon magnet]

Because I see some people complaining about her when I beat her 2nd try (First try was to see how she worked)

[exotic dome]

parrying her is fun but she is kinda annoying

it's harder than most bosses

[manic schooner]

if u consider this racism then ig that specific "bug-racism" is ok for me

[open narwhal]

she's a false typa hard kinda like how sisters of battle are

racism as a character building mechanic

[full basin]

finally got wanderer's crest, I love the movement but the range is so bad 😭

[forest flower]

I just have the urge to scream “shaw” at the top of my lungs

[full basin]

I don't know how to get it, and I probably can't yet

[worldly lake]

Long claw

[full basin]

early act 2

ok

[worldly lake]

you get it in like mid act 2

not early

[strange comet]

I got it late act 2

[full basin]

good to know

[strange comet]

Creeping up behind the neck of act 3

[sharp slate]

wanderers my beloved

[frank osprey]

warning spoilers
||THE SKULL TYRANT JUST FUCKING KILLED PILBY OH MY GOD NOOOOOOO||

[full basin]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[frank osprey]

WHAT THE FUCK NOOOOOOOOO IM SO SADDD

[worldly lake]

moment of silence for pilby 😔

[strange comet]

Dw pilby gets revived in act 3

[frank osprey]

I HEARD PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT HIM DYING BUT I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE SERIOUS...

this couldve been avoided if i hadnt been greedy for rosaries and didnt take the wish...

[frank osprey]

HE DOES????

[ruby dune]

dont trust anything here

These people could be silkposting

[frank osprey]

silence im in the denial stage of grief

[crystal geyser]

im sorry i dont think he does 😔

[frank osprey]

let me believe he does so i feel less guilty

[ruby dune]

https://tenor.com/view/yetisports-eyetoy-caddicarus-5-stages-of-grief-denial-gif-2868320313128194555

next is Anger

[frank osprey]

i already feel it coming on...

[worldly lake]

...technically

[ruby dune]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-lace-laugh-villain-laugh-evil-laugh-gif-15852753054655955151

Ok theres Lacenet gifs now so warning IF YOU SEARCH LACE SILKSONG ON GIFS BE WARNED

[crystal geyser]

a lesbian in her natural habitat

[frank osprey]

based, i love lesbians

[ruby dune]

https://tenor.com/view/megaphone-making-announcement-i-have-something-to-say-loud-blake-webber-gif-14611258

[frank osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lace-mitosis-hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-silk-song-gif-17181434077690856461

[worldly lake]

😔

[sharp slate]

what did i open up discord into

[ruby dune]

now we both sent the screenshot

[tight viper]

Hitless WATE without touching the floor is terrifying

[frank osprey]

oh my apologies

[worldly lake]

one of us must die

[frank osprey]

i didn't see that before,

[crystal geyser]

guys we can pivot
instead of lovers hornet can be a motherly figure to lace
there problem solved

[frank osprey]

ill refrain from talking about it here from now on mb

[ruby dune]

actually if you think about it Blame the Caretaker for everything Lace related

[frank osprey]

i like this too, if not motherly rivals who occasionally have empathy for one another

[ruby dune]

dont tell snail about what i said about his idol

[crystal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/lace-silksong-creature-eating-gif-2477149525902862911

[worldly lake]

lace feels more like a younger sister

pulls up, ragebaits hornet, and leaves

[crystal geyser]

okay yeah i looked up the lore and lace is literally a child mentally so yeah no shipping please and thank you

shakra fans stay winning

[frank osprey]

SHAKRAAAA

MY GOATTT

something i found out recently is that shakra can actually kill enemy npcs that get too close to them

thats rlly neat

[worldly lake]

i recently rediscovered my hate for sinner's road ❤️

[crystal geyser]

hornet, her wife shakra, and their adopted daughter lace 🔥✍️

[earnest drift]

https://tenor.com/view/lace-silksong-creature-eating-gif-2477149525902862911

[frank osprey]

ehhh if i may say my last thoughts on the matter bc i dont wanna break the rules i don't think its too bad bc most people who do enjoy it seem to not be aware she's mentally a child and certainly dont depict her as one, but i definitely understand the discomfort.

[ruby dune]

can you let Phantoms fight go on forever if you never parry her

[worldly lake]

yeah

[graceful oyster]

It happens anyway

The parry

They just give you a chance to do it

[frank osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lace-mitosis-hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-silk-song-gif-17181434077690856461

[ruby dune]

NOOO

[frank osprey]

i think this is my new fav gif

[ruby dune]

It happens anyway

ngl what do the mods think of SK discussion

[earnest drift]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-spoilers-silksong-hollow-knight-lace-hornet-gif-1369488558298384028

[worldly lake]

t a c k s

[crystal geyser]

the hollow knight is cooler than lace anyways

[earnest drift]

the hollow knight is a great character

[frank osprey]

REAL

[earnest drift]

but very non autonomous

[worldly lake]

lace is a f r a u d

[earnest drift]

basically their entire character is being a victim

[crystal geyser]

i love my lil crippled baby/vessel/adult

[frank osprey]

chat i love the hollow knight

[worldly lake]

-# not the hollow knight discord user lace i mean lace as in the character from hit indie game hollow knight silksong by team cherry

[frank osprey]

in fact if it wasn't for the lack of autonomy id marry the hollow knight for being such a peak character

[strange comet]

Why doesn't hornet have a The before her name like the other siblings?

The knight
The hollow knight
Hornet

[earnest drift]

because she has a name

the others are titles

[frank osprey]

she kinda does, another label she has is "The Gendered Child"

[earnest drift]

and every time i see someone call her "the hornet" i kms

[crystal geyser]

i headcanon the hollow knight survives in one of the endings and becomes the ruler of hallownest
and IM GONNA MARRY THEM FIRST YOU CANT STOP ME

[frank osprey]

from the White Lady

[earnest drift]

i'm pretty sure they survive both dream no more and embrace the void

[strange comet]

The hornet

[frank osprey]

NO FUCK YOU THE HOLLOW KNIGHT IS MINE

[light swan]

hornet is her name knight and hollow knight are not their names

[earnest drift]

there is blood on your hands

[light swan]

wait the lace said that already

[crystal geyser]

wait
lets share
let us become a battle throuple

[earnest drift]

i will eliminate you

[ruby dune]

name a Hollow Knight NPC. that has a insanely boring life

[strange comet]

The Lace

[ruby dune]

I know one its EVA and Bardoon

[crystal geyser]

elderbug

[frank osprey]

nightmare polycule(???)

[ruby dune]

Bardoon has a more boring life, mf cant even move

like what does Bardoon do play with Ash?

[frank osprey]

the nailsmith

[crystal geyser]

ultimate blunt rotation

[ruby dune]

he gets to be a Yaoi with Sheo

[worldly lake]

you kiss on the altar and suddenly take 1 mask of contact damage

[frank osprey]

thats fair actually nvm

but before that his only aspiration was to create the ultimate weapon and die to it, which is a little bit boring to me

[ruby dune]

Ts actually made me laugh

[frank osprey]

I take two, actually

[rancid wedge]

you can still help him by being his friend and help him grow confidence

[worldly lake]

let's go i made crawfather reed laugh 🔥 🔥 🔥

[shrewd kelp]

Funny how an argument could start from a misgendering. Tells alot about people

[earnest drift]

you don't have to bring this up it's weird

[crystal geyser]

my god
t h e y r e p e r f e c t

[frank osprey]

we go to therapy together and I help him unpack his daddy issues

[rancid wedge]

more importantly is ghost older than hornet? do we know that?

[earnest drift]

chronologically, yes they are
but physically they look the same as the day they were born

[shrewd kelp]

OBVIOUSLY we do

Just need some lil thinking

[rancid wedge]

i thought it wasn't clear when the vessels were made vs when the dalliance was had

[strange comet]

Can you like shut up

[shrewd kelp]

You can shut the fuck up. Youre not part of the conversation you little bitc-

[frank osprey]

id assume they're not too far apart from age even if one is older, bc iirc wasn't a condition for herra getting involved in everything that she recieve an heir?

[strange comet]

you do not exist

[frank osprey]

how do i spell herra im too tired

[shrewd kelp]

And you will never have a job

[frank osprey]

you know what i meant

[crystal geyser]

is it bad that i saw the character that was used by the person they trusted most and left broken and said "wow literally me"

[graceful oyster]

+h

[strange comet]

I can make fried rice better than you

[shrewd kelp]

Eh the knight is overall older. Since itd prob take pale king pretty long to mature thk

[graceful oyster]

Oh yeah well none of you make creme brulee as well as I do

[shrewd kelp]

I am a certified asian. You cannot tell me that i cant make a good fried rice

[frank osprey]

not at all why else do you think i'd marry the hollow knight if i could

[rancid wedge]

i agree, but i don't think we know for sure whether hornet or the vessels are older. i think it'd be funny if she was hollow's older sister too

[strange comet]

Nerd

[crystal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/literally-me-ryan-gosling-sigma-gucci-gif-5830885029702491025

[shrewd kelp]

Nah. We qlready know hornet is overall younger than both the knight and thk

[rancid wedge]

i saw gurr the outcast and said he's literally me

[crystal geyser]

ryan gosling plays the hollow knight in the hollow knight movie
he's not a voice actor they just put him in a hollow knight cosplay

[ruby dune]

the double moss mother fight, is such a joke

[rancid wedge]

according to what?

[strange comet]

Lesbians 💚💚💚

[frank osprey]

I WAS JUST MAKING SOME THIS AFTERNOON FOR DINNER and my friend said i only got an 8/10 grade for no broccolli

[ruby dune]

i assume they only put The double moss mother fight near Atla so you could see your new Evolved hunter crest

[frank osprey]

i cant eat broccoli a lot :((

[shrewd kelp]

The climbing memory scene. And pk made the promise with herra to give her a child in return of turning to a dreamer

[crystal geyser]

great idea

[shrewd kelp]

Even if the knight isnt that much older. They are still oder

[strange knot]

Nothing good will happen after ai mentioned “one Reddit user..”

[frank osprey]

ohhh actually youre right the vessel is older huh

[shrewd kelp]

Its really just a lore a basic hk fan with average iq would know

[strange comet]

BEES

[frank osprey]

how far in the future does the game take place after the fall of hallownest? do we know that yet?

[rancid wedge]

we don't know the timing on these events? i also don't appreciate how you're talking

[frank osprey]

or do we only have a rough estimate

[rich wyvern]

A fucking long t,ime that’s a,l I know

[graceful oyster]

Hollow Knight has no lore

[crystal geyser]

hornet when she was deciding who she wanted to date in hallownest:

[shrewd kelp]

DAWG. ITS ALREADY EXPLAINED. Why cant you just TAKE what i saud

[rich wyvern]

My typing might be cooked gng

[shrewd kelp]

WHY DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO TWIST WHAT I SAID

[marsh spoke]

its implied by the fact that her mother became a seal shortly after her birth meaning the hollow knight probably existed already

[shrewd kelp]

IT IS EXPLAINED AND WE ALREADY KNOW IT

[crystal geyser]

why are you being mean 2 each other 💔

[shrewd kelp]

Thank you

[marsh spoke]

then fucking say where it's explained instead of being an asshole

[earnest drift]

you are correct but you are explaining it in an obnoxious way

[shrewd kelp]

I was being nice and rational

[graceful oyster]

Why is every1 so mean 2 me 💔

[strange comet]

@shrewd kelp @rancid wedge you two are bald

[severe steeple]

sup suckers

I mean silkers

[rich wyvern]

Are you being serious rn

[shrewd kelp]

Fuck youu

[crystal geyser]

you just insulted them by saying they were stupid

[shrewd kelp]

What am i wrong

[marsh spoke]

You can genuinely miss things sometimes not everyone who asks questions is out to get you

[worldly lake]

what's going on 😭

[rancid wedge]

thank you

[shrewd kelp]

WHEN. WHEN DID I CALL THEM STUPID

[rocky jolt]

Wormways

[crystal geyser]

someone's being mean, thats about it

[marsh spoke]

No problem dude sorry for the other guy

[severe steeple]

is that the noise

[worldly lake]

why are people being unkind in sk-discussion

[ruby dune]

Now that i think of it

[worldly lake]

that's uncool :(

[ruby dune]

rosary stringing isnt useless

[rich wyvern]

Do we actually need to explain this to you /genq

[crystal geyser]

"Its really just a lore a basic hk fan with average iq would know" the fact they didn't know this implies you think they're stupid

[strange comet]

The noise from undertale

[orchid locust]

good afternoon chat What is going on

[shrewd kelp]

I wasnt implying hes stupid

[crystal geyser]

uh huh sure

[shrewd kelp]

Im just saying thst. Who knows he havent played hk

[severe steeple]

The noise from undertale (from undertale)

[worldly lake]

i just lost all the rosaries i got from selling a relic at sinner's road 😔
i'm on a speedrun

[rich wyvern]

People are arguing in sk discussion again

[frank osprey]

i personally find it a life saver bc im very greedy with my rosaries and like to splurge spend

[shrewd kelp]

Im just going to move on

[worldly lake]

now i'm poor and i won't be able to afford the citadel bellway 💔

[orchid locust]

is this pointless argument #19,260,711,028 or 029 i lost track

[severe steeple]

whats arguing. let me have an opinion on it that you all can adopt

[worldly lake]

i am not gonna be happy if i fumble the mist

[shrewd kelp]

@rancid wedge yk dude. You could've just asked google if im right

[crystal geyser]

number 19260711028, i kept track

[rocky jolt]

hollowgpt generate me a message that will start yet another meaningless convo about crests
generating
message generated!
architect crest bad hunter crest good

[shrewd kelp]

Huh

He left the server

Did he just left the server over something stupid?

[severe steeple]

hunter crest is the only good crest because imagine using the othes ones (ragebait)

[earnest drift]

you don't have to go on about it

[strange comet]

Architect bad Hunter bad Wanderer bad Beast bad Witch bad Reaper bad

[crystal geyser]

silksong bad

[ruby dune]

should i buy this or get red quill

[shrewd kelp]

No like. Why tf did he leave the server

[ruby dune]

decide

[rich wyvern]

Stupid mindless worm, clearly insert crest is superior to all crests

[worldly lake]

angry statement about how people can use whatever crest they want!!!

[strange comet]

Get red quill

[severe steeple]

no no. yellow tools are bad they suck so bad

[shrewd kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-false-nuke-walter-white-false-breaking-bad-false-breaking-bad-false-nuke-gif-11851145952566757188

[earnest drift]

barbed bracelet

[severe steeple]

yellow tools is like if you made a whole system for heavy blow crest

[shrewd kelp]

Do not call silksong bad. Even if its a joke

[golden karma]

Who even left

[crystal geyser]

silksong bad hollow knight bad video games bad life bad me sad : (

[golden karma]

Silksong has many flaws

[crystal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/chimutan-chicken-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-15173158631897442446

[golden karma]

It's a good game but criticism of it should not Be shunned

[strange knot]

Silksong sucks

[earnest drift]

should've had more lace rematches

[crystal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[worldly lake]

silksong SUCKS

[golden karma]

Why were there only 100 lace fights compared to 6000 acts

[rancid wedge]

i loved the lace fights

[ancient mortar]

What is silksong

[severe steeple]

they should have made it even more soulslike

[shrewd kelp]

I dont see how people says hk or sk is bad and then when people call them out for having skill issues they get attacked with "its their opinion" an opinion is NOT calling a game bad

[exotic dome]

should've had more savage beastfly rematches

[earnest drift]

every act needs a lace fight so if there's an act 4 there'll be a lace 4

[worldly lake]

NEVER in the ENTIRE game does ANYONE MENTION the silksong

[shrewd kelp]

How

[rich wyvern]

Idk…..

[severe steeple]

dragons

[worldly lake]

BAD ADVERTISING
I WAS PROMISED THE SILKSONG

[last dew]

the silksong is to be hashtag felt not mentioned

[shrewd kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-dexter-morgan-stare-staring-dexter-show-dexter-stare-gif-12847918347822547337

[earnest drift]

it's ambiguous which one the silksong is

[last dew]

its there everywhere look closer

[earnest drift]

it could be the threefold melody, the song that hornet plays to trap gms

the song the weavers played to sustain gms

[crystal geyser]

some sort of wyrm...

[shrewd kelp]

I mean. You cant call a game bad if you dont like it. Just say its not for me

[rich wyvern]

You play as the silksong, duh /j

[golden karma]

The kingdom is haunted by the forces of silk and song

[worldly lake]

and also
never ONCE does the roaring knight show up in silksong

[golden karma]

That's it

[severe steeple]

add 6 magma wyrm fights

[earnest drift]

don't they appear at the very end to cut off grand mother silk's arms and aura farm

[severe steeple]

people complain about 3 laces, they havent played Elden Ring bro

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/promised-consort-radahn-radahn-consort-of-miquella-elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree-and-then-the-final-boss-is-just-radahn-again-gif-5498887630461535630

[exotic dome]

this but lace

[worldly lake]

fair enough

i guess silksong is actually an okay game

[rocky jolt]

never in hollow knight silksong does hornet meet a hollow knight, let that sink in

the sink: thanks

[earnest drift]

lace is the only character who deserves three unique fights
her entire character is attention seeking

[exotic dome]

sinksong

[severe steeple]

but he first fight is piss easy

[earnest drift]

all of them are easy

hollow knight and silksong aren't very hard

[severe steeple]

not piss easy though

[rancid wedge]

pinstress should have had three fights and she should have teleported more

[crystal geyser]

there now she did

[severe steeple]

same

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-skong-silk-song-silksong-gif-4842792387470849374

[ancient mortar]

Honestly i feel like the first fight wasnt needed but it doesnt harm the experience. could have been a unique boss tho and just have lace meet us at sinners road/blasted steps like what happens when we skip her

[rancid wedge]

and it was really fun!

[exotic dome]

groal that teleports

[marsh spoke]

TRUE

[frank osprey]

if been doing wishes in bellheart bc im too scared to go back to bone bottom after accidentally letting the skull tyrant loose... now in the depression stage of grief

[strange comet]

I'm genuinely bored

[frank osprey]

or would that be bargaining

[rocky jolt]

is injector band a good tool?

[earnest drift]

i hate pilby and he deserved to die

[rancid wedge]

that's a cracked crest design

4 blue slots....

[ancient mortar]

No you need to equip pocket flea

[strange comet]

Hold on what the fuck

[ancient mortar]

found by killing lost mooshka

[exotic dome]

it has synergies with fisher's hook

[rancid wedge]

why does shaman just have two crest slots its so silly.

let me have my dice and my ascendant grip...

[frank osprey]

thats why im gonna beat your ass next time we meet in game

you will feel these hands

[graceful oyster]

2 crest slots

[ruby dune]

snare setter, is a decent tool

[rancid wedge]

tool slots

[ruby dune]

its just WHY DO I NEED TO DONATE IT TO THE SHAMANS TO GET TO ACT 3

[earnest drift]

pilby deserved to get rammed to death by skull tyrant

[marsh spoke]

Crest that you can slot other crests into. I'm cooking something here

[earnest drift]

and become as flat as a pilby pancake

[exotic dome]

if pilby reached the citadel you would want to kill him for rosaries

[earnest drift]

yes

[rocky jolt]

can we have evil crests

[ruby dune]

Imagine hunter crest with the pogo of wanderer with the bind of witch and the bind of beast

[frank osprey]

OH MY GOD GUYS

[rancid wedge]

the skull tyrant is awesome its one of the better ways to go

[naive ridge]

?

[frank osprey]

THEY'RE THROWING PILBY A FUNERAL

[earnest drift]

evil hunter:
subsequent hits reduce your needle dmg down to 50%, getting hit resets it

[frank osprey]

I CAN'T THIS IS TOO MUCH FOR MY HEARTTTT

[marsh spoke]

Fuck wanderer pogo

[naive ridge]

dam

[marsh spoke]

Witch pogo is the shit I've fully made up my mind on this

[earnest drift]

piece of shit should've gotten out of the way, i hope his corpse shatters on impact

[exotic dome]

evil reaper: it's actually useful

[rocky jolt]

evil reaper: buffs your damage by 50%

[ruby dune]

evil wanderer: makes your attacks reaper speed

[frank osprey]

LACE WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WHAT DID HE EVER DO TO YOUUUU

[rancid wedge]

reaper with wanderer speed please

[earnest drift]

he got killed so i hate him

[mental acorn]

y'all ain't ready for fivebrothers signis and gron and digmis and gonn and hegemol

[rancid wedge]

is this what happened to hegemol

he turned into a forge twink after his armor was stolen...

[mental acorn]

yes he went to deep docks

[old raft]

not ready for 12th chruos

[exotic dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1444774646414315631/riplol-1.gif

[rocky jolt]

Steelwatch

[earnest drift]

i could watch this for hours

[old raft]

damn thats so satisfying

[lavish apex]

and i casually ripped a radiant lost lace first try to finish the run

[ancient mortar]

The nefarious pilby launcher

[rancid wedge]

damn he gets juicy as he dies

[earnest drift]

nice

lost lace best team cherry boss btw

[mental acorn]

invincible, fearless, sensual, mysterious, enchanting, vigorous, diligent, overwhelming, gorgeous, passionate, terrifying, beautiful, powerful trobbio

[lavish apex]

i can see it
i'm a pure vessel truther though

[rancid wedge]

shes too easy

[old raft]

u can cross stitch her circle attack too

[earnest drift]

but she's fun

[rocky jolt]

voltwyrm

[rancid wedge]

i had more fun with gms, i just wish her fight was longer and harder

[exotic dome]

tc couldn't top absrad yet

[rancid wedge]

i should go for cursed ending

[earnest drift]

the only hard boss is absrad, which is the worst best boss team cherry has made
absrad is S+ tier but only because of the aesthetics and writing
gameplaywise it's projectile spam with low interaction with the actual boss

[old raft]

u can jump up when the last circle is about to end and cross stitch
down dash and cross stitch again

[ancient mortar]

This is my favorite boss still. You can tell in the intro of the clip how much fun im having.

[old raft]

ez double slash

[rancid wedge]

absrad has worse writing than rad

[earnest drift]

that too

[lavish apex]

"the only hard boss is absrad" is like
an insane brainrot radhog player take ngl

[earnest drift]

if lost lace, pure vessel and nkg are easy than abrad is the only hard boss
sorry but i'm being consistent

[old raft]

bro u almost got hit before he staggered

[lavish apex]

yeah whoever said that is also weird

[rancid wedge]

i dont think i could beat nkg. i was trying and then school got in the way so i kinda just forgot

[exotic dome]

absrad should have just been the default radiance

[rocky jolt]

Widow and Midwife

[ancient mortar]

Theres quite a few close calls lol

[earnest drift]

ship?

[cobalt pilot]

No she should NOT have been

[rancid wedge]

i like the default radiance though

[cobalt pilot]

It took me days to beat base radiance

[rocky jolt]

no they just have funny names

[rancid wedge]

i really gotta do cursed gms gms is awesome

[ancient mortar]

More like MIDwife

[earnest drift]

base radiance is also great but again, only because of aesthetics and writing

[cobalt pilot]

She's fun

I love love loveeee radiance

[ancient mortar]

base radi is too easy imo. Absrad is great tho

[exotic dome]

nah fight is good too

[cobalt pilot]

EVERYTHING is too easy for you all

[mental acorn]

moss mother too hard

[lavish apex]

this discourse is insane

[earnest drift]

people who call lost lace projectile spam when radiance exists are weird

[old raft]

any radiance 2.0 💀

[eternal berry]

different games btw

[exotic dome]

both peak

[ancient mortar]

I just don't think the true final boss should be easier than multiple not super important side bosses

[mortal dagger]

neither are projectile spam

[severe steeple]

that fight has like 2 projectile attacks, what are people talking about

[old raft]

i died to moss mother like 3 times in a row

she is very very very hard

[ruby dune]

@earnest drift look who it is

[earnest drift]

lost lace is still the hardest boss in silksong even if she's not that hard

[mortal dagger]

but people can play sk without hk anyways so thats a crazy statement

[gusty igloo]

helo

[earnest drift]

pin through the head now

[rancid wedge]

lost lace's 6 sword blob move isn't spam but it doesn't fit into her moveset. if she had the area attack instead of that i think it would fit her void repertoire more

[lavish apex]

radiance is absolutely harder than every base game boss and i would say she's only easier than the big 3

[ancient mortar]

(im talking about radiance)

[unique dragon]

Just discovered ||Nameless Town||, oh how I love this game

[mental acorn]

after beating silksong once, every fight became easy. after beating hollow knight once, FUCK DUNG DEFENDER. HE NEEDS TO GO.

[eternal berry]

absrad kinda is
baserad is just a boss that uses projectiles

[gusty igloo]

whats harder than radiance exluding godhome?

[earnest drift]

oh
idk who was harder than base radiance? nkg, pure vessel and absrad are kind of their own final bosses

[ancient mortar]

She took me less tries than normal grimm.

[rancid wedge]

thats the only issue i have with lost lace. i never even got hit by that move its just not aesthetic

[gusty igloo]

nkg is easier

[lavish apex]

that is not a good metric

[mortal dagger]

having projectile attacks and spamming them are vastly different but its subjective and hard to really explain. if you play terraria you see what proper proj spam is

[ancient mortar]

I unironically had a harder time with failed champion than radiance. Radiance took me 2 tries

[mental acorn]

godtamer was the final boss of my 112

[old raft]

ye that move is very stupid
imo the other sawblade void attack around the body is way better and fits ll more

[gusty igloo]

🤢

[ruby dune]

i kinda feel bad for Mort

[old raft]

it has literally the same front load as the void missal attack

[ancient mortar]

Base radiance and not absrad? id say essentially every dlc boss. Including hidden dreams.

[eternal berry]

yeah i've played terraria
i mean in the context of HK

[exotic dome]

idk, i remember nkg taking me more tries

[ruby dune]

like imagine being killed by the void

[earnest drift]

do you think karmelita or lost lace will be in silksong's big three when the game is completely finished

[lavish apex]

this is not an average experience
my friend took 2 hours on her and he played better than me on my first run

[earnest drift]

or are both of them going to be outmatched

[mortal dagger]

comparative to the game is kinda pointless though? by that logic every single game with a projectile attack has a 'projectile spam' boss

[gusty igloo]

tier 1 hidden dreams arent hard imo
but if you fight more yeah its harder
and nkg is easier than the radiance imo its very predictable

[exotic dome]

karmelita yes lost lace no

[gusty igloo]

why not

[lavish apex]

ll is harder than karmelita though?

[rancid wedge]

imo karmelita was harder.

but at the same time i only used druid eyes once for karmelita and won whereas i entered lost lace with druid eyes so....

[earnest drift]

i think it's unlikely either of them will be in the top three because i have a feeling the game is going to get much harder

[gusty igloo]

karmelita isnt hard shes just annoing

[old raft]

ll is ez
its just lace + void
and lace is easy

[eternal berry]

ok but like be fr here absrad has like half her moveset on screen at any given time in her platforms phase

[exotic dome]

oh wait ypu were asking about the difficulty

[ancient mortar]

My opinions may be effected by me facing hidden dreams bosses as soon as they were accessible with very limited gear. Ie false knight with no shade cloak and not a super high nail level. I think Radiance isnt properly scaled in that she should be scaled for a player with max gear since shes the true ending boss.

[old raft]

all the void attack is just hard in general

[earnest drift]

yes

silksong doesn't have a big three rn it has a big two

[lavish apex]

she is, though, plenty of people struggle with her

[rancid wedge]

i also really really really wanted to beat her with shaman and kept nearly killing her but my heals running out before i shamefully switched back to wanderer and did only five or so more tries

[exotic dome]

then lost lace yes karmelita no

[lavish apex]

when blind

[gusty igloo]

i mean
you aint finding white defender so easily

[mortal dagger]

she can have at most 2 attacks at once.. and its entirely avoidable if you just dodge on the first half
she would be oddly easy if not.. look at nkg, fight becomes so easy its boring solely due to that

[gusty igloo]

underleveled zote might be harder

but just
level up

its not required for anything

[rancid wedge]

early bosses felt much harder?

[old raft]

unravelled top 1 hardest boss

[rancid wedge]

i died more to last judge more than any other boss

[gusty igloo]

you can technically foght the radiance with only vs, no nail uogrades and no nail arts

and no charms

[ruby dune]

does pollip pouch do anything

[cobalt pilot]

Happy and thriving 🥹

[gusty igloo]

actually yeah only charm you need is voidheart

[earnest drift]

was sort of similar to hollow knight

[ruby dune]

cause For me pollip does nothing

[earnest drift]

i died more to hornet protector than to radiance

[eternal berry]

ok maybe thats overexaggeration but like there are a lot of stuff to dodge

[old raft]

it makes ur red tool poisonous

[gusty igloo]

adds 2 ticks of poison THAT DONT STACK

[ancient mortar]

Why compare it to geometry dash? its a completely different genre lol

[ruby dune]

it barely does any damage

[mortal dagger]

thats just called being a hard boss. they either do that or take the artificial route and just double her hp or make her do 4 masks per hit

[ruby dune]

its just better to spam curveclaw+cogfly

[eternal berry]

one: wrong there are some insane gd levels out there
two: GIT GUD

[eternal berry]

OK IM SAYING THAT SHE'S A LOT MORE PROJECTILEY THAN MOST HK BOSSES GEEZ

[graceful oyster]

Pollip practically is pointless

[mortal dagger]

guh

[gusty igloo]

its good if you dont spam tools and shoot them one by one

[ancient mortar]

Did you play the first game?

[mortal dagger]

did you play hollow knight first?

[eternal berry]

i smell someone who hasn't played hollow knight first

moron foolish individual

this is why you beat hollow knight first

before you go onto the harder game

[graceful oyster]

Yay! An extra 6 damage per tool! After a few uses it'll accumulate to a single nail hit!

[gusty igloo]

okay this isnt nice

[ancient mortar]

You really can't expect to do well in silksong without having beaten the much easier first game.

[mortal dagger]

so yeah the game is a sequel and is gonna be harder for the main playerbase.
expect it to be harder

[ruby dune]

wasted is a strong term

ask #sk-help they nice

[gusty igloo]

it does scale with crafting kits tho

[ruby dune]

and spoiler free

[eternal berry]

sowwy 3:

[old raft]

equip compass

[gusty igloo]

its base is 6

[graceful oyster]

Yeah, the 6 is the max

[arctic epoch]

The difficult tag:

[rancid wedge]

the hardesr lost lace attack to dodge are the two void waves, you have to time the soar just right or cling to the far right wall and jump

[gusty igloo]

wha

[ruby dune]

blud just chilling

[graceful oyster]

I may be misunderstanding, you could be right

[rancid wedge]

they only do one heart though iirc so its not that bad

[ancient mortar]

You can just double jump clawline over them.

[ruby dune]

full picture

[mortal dagger]

calm down lmao

[old raft]

or just use iframes from sharpdart or cross stitch

[rancid wedge]

oh shit i didnt even try clawline

[last dew]

#chill

[arctic epoch]

Aight aight, twin, chillout la

[ruby dune]

send pic i'll try to help

[graceful oyster]

Yeah after looking at the wiki 6 damage per tool is the max it can do

At full kits

[last dew]

alaskian

[exotic dome]

where did you get stuck

[ancient mortar]

Id highly reccomend not playing silksong without having beaten the first game. As a sequel it amps up the difficulty and you really need the skills you learn from the first game to succeed.

[graceful oyster]

July

[rancid wedge]

idk silksong works fine alone id say

[lavish apex]

are you baiting

[gusty igloo]

wow i just searched and yeah it sucks

[last dew]

i dont think its all that important

[lavish apex]

dumb question actually of course you'll say no

[arctic epoch]

You should have bought HK first, tbf

[rancid wedge]

so revolutionary thought but not every mild thought is a bait?

[gusty igloo]

polip pouch is tbh only useful in shellwood and blasted steps/sinners road then 😭

[ancient mortar]

Skong is a pretty massive jump in difficulty from the first game.

[last dew]

silksong's controls are not that similar to hk's

[ruby dune]

WHAT THE HELL ARE THESE FLYING DEEP DOCK ENEMIES 😭

[graceful oyster]

That's a stretch

[mortal dagger]

its not like a requirement to play sk, but complaining about the difficulty without playing hk is kinda silly

[exotic dome]

sea of sorrow march 28th

[ruby dune]

THEY HAVE MINIATURE NUKES

[graceful oyster]

It's just completely ass

[lavish apex]

i don't think i've been hit by the waves literally ever

[ancient mortar]

generally i wouldn't reccomend buying the sequel to a game without knowing if you even liked the first one lol.

[last dew]

oh i didnt see that part i was just referring to play hk before sk

[gusty igloo]

have you ever concidered punching the projectiles?

[mortal dagger]

ah fair enough

[lavish apex]

and i died to her a lot on my first run

[rancid wedge]

like what bait potential does "i think this one attack is the hardest one to dodge" even have

[ruby dune]

i do

[mortal dagger]

you'd be surprised

[ruby dune]

i now know you can stun them by deflecting there nukes

[eternal berry]

??? just refund it if you dont like

[mortal dagger]

if you have any form of subjective difficulty then people will probably flame you

[graceful oyster]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6ZS3Xx4RapYL4CCyXp6BLQ?si=Wi6qD5SnQS-G5sdDb1N4UQ

[gusty igloo]

also sk wont make a lot of sense to you if you havent played hk lore wise

[lavish apex]

you genuinely just
sprint away until you get to the wall and then jump over them
it's so easy

[arctic epoch]

I said "should have", now i'd really appreciate it if you chill out and this forsaken channel try to aid you in your gaming experience

Sorry if i cause uncalled disatisfaction but we gotta chill

[eternal berry]

ah crap its not steam? rip

[exotic dome]

i used poison tacks in my first playthrough they were useful

[gusty igloo]

you can just
enjoy the difficulty of silksong i guess?

i like hard games

[eternal berry]

they are not enjoying it

[gusty igloo]

genuenely the worst tool to put pollip pouch on

[graceful oyster]

Pollip on tacks is genuinely pointless

[gusty igloo]

not everyone checks activity statuses

[tight viper]

Fuck Palestag this shit is awful

[eternal berry]

man i dont check the profiles on every person i see 😭

[gusty igloo]

wait for it to attack and then attack back

[tight viper]

I’m doing radiant floorless shit

[ancient mortar]

Also id generally reccomend doing research on a game before you buy it, considering silksongs difficulty is so heavily talked about one google search would tell you

[tight viper]

The stag is very opposed to me doing this

[exotic dome]

they were useful on big guys in the high halls gauntlet. but never used it again in my second game so you might be right

[gusty igloo]

smh

[arctic epoch]

I mean, y'all don't watch reviews before buying game?

[gusty igloo]

iread a few

[graceful oyster]

No. Tacks were useful. Pollip I guarantee you did absolutely nothing

[gusty igloo]

and listen to opinions from my friends

[arctic epoch]

I wish you never lay hand on Rain World

[ancient mortar]

Some people do literally no research and then get mad when the game isnt what they expected lmao

[eternal berry]

ok genuinely hollow knight is way better to start with

i did the entire game 112% and i still find silksong challenging

[gusty igloo]

i genuenely dont understand people who play the sequel first

[eternal berry]

going in with no experience on either is hell

[graceful oyster]

Because you want a cool game without the effort that comes with cool games

[eternal berry]

storywise its fine

difficultywise you'll suffer

[mortal dagger]

people just hear the hype around sk's release and dont even look into it being a sequel ig

[graceful oyster]

Go play Geometry Dash or Roblox or something

[gusty igloo]

i found hk very easy (except for godhome) and i played hk first

[ancient mortar]

I mean I played dark souls 3 first, i don't think its always a bad idea. Its just doing research thats important.

[vapid eagle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Z0JtOcBRUc0?si=QAqyo9zTeoAVelSR

[arctic epoch]

Because interesting moments happen online is a fraction of many game, Rain World is sorta slow pace and hella punishing

[gusty igloo]

i played other 2d combat games (but never a metroidvania) so thats maybe why i found it easy

[ancient mortar]

Generally happens when your health is reduced to zero.

[gusty igloo]

i 1st tried like the first 3 bosses and ppl struggle on hornet

[exotic dome]

not every person like hard games it's ok

[arctic epoch]

I had 40 hours on Hollow Knight before buying Silksong and still sucked so hard at playing it, never play the sequel first

[eternal berry]

i first tried hornet because my friend said "if you die to hornet ill laugh at you"

[ancient mortar]

SHAW

[cobalt pilot]

Why she ornage

[arctic epoch]

Color theory

-# 67

[ancient mortar]

Its like when you leave out white lego pieces in the sun too long

[exotic dome]

i made my sister play hk and she died to false knight like 10 times

[eternal berry]

first time i fought him i thought he was too fast
now hes too slow bc failed champion

[gusty igloo]

false knight was always so slow

[ancient mortar]

When are we getting true knight

[ruby dune]

https://tenor.com/view/grobbio-trobbio-silksong-hollow-knight-evil-gif-13785504118803412597

[arctic epoch]

Falser Knight

[ancient mortar]

Knight

[ruby dune]

fraud knight

[arctic epoch]

...fortnite?

[ruby dune]

technically false knight should get considered a fraudster cause hes false

fort knight

[ancient mortar]

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/store/ps-store-refund-request/

[gusty igloo]

theres like 2 benches in the marrow before beating the 2nd boss

one is paid and other requires going to a different area

[ruby dune]

what boss also slop is crazy

slop because you found the game to hard😭

[ancient mortar]

Hes not even dying to a boss he just keeps falling into marrow lava ;-;

[ruby dune]

the lava

[ruby dune]

theres a bench right after you beat that gauntlet buy it

frick i replied to myself

[exotic dome]

real

[arctic epoch]

Hey so, i get it the game isn't exactly to your expectation but we would rather a crest discourse over a person keep throwing negativity to a game that is clearly enjoyable to many others

Your experience suck and it's not your fault so you should definitely quit it and this community now, refund the game and play the ones that you enjoy before many other start mauling at you

-# solarion incident

[gusty igloo]

i think he already has it since you cant get any lava before coming across it

sell it illegally

[ancient mortar]

Take it as a fumble and just be more careful to research the difficulty level of games before you buy them. If you don't like hard games you gotta research before you buy.

[arctic epoch]

It's your fault you didn't think it through before buying the game. Now you're stuck with it

Don't buy a game purely because of hype

Anyways, Wanderer suckass

[gusty igloo]

yeah read reviews first

[ruby dune]

Fair

[lavish apex]

it's also $20 you'll probably be fine

[exotic dome]

fish crest

[ancient mortar]

I almost never buy a game without doing some level of research. Has saved me a lot of money.

[gusty igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-crest-silksong-hornet-gif-9602637787311761649

[ancient mortar]

The only games I buy right away are sequels/dlc of games I already like.

[ruby dune]

I respect that you had to turn it to crest discourze by bringing wanderer

[arctic epoch]

Only thing i didn't think befoee buying is Downpour because hot damn.

[ruby dune]

Please dont kill yourself over a refund

[ancient mortar]

Bit of an overreaction over 20$ no?

[gusty igloo]

for some people its expensive

[ruby dune]

Like when i first got the hollow knight i stopped playing it at fungal wastes then i played it again. Now i am here

Remember you can always try again

[exotic dome]

i remember playing hk first in game pass and after a week i bought it on steam

[ruby dune]

Maybe watch a youtube guide or to ifk

[ancient mortar]

Im more of saying threatening suicide over 20$ is an overaction

[gusty igloo]

i mean yeab

[arctic epoch]

20$ is expensive sure but it only take me a couple of weeks of saving for that amount of money. I get that not everyone can afford it, but 20$ isn't a life changing amount

It's more of a "lesson" amount of money

[exotic dome]

that's a shame

[arctic epoch]

You use playstation yet you don't know your own refund policy?

[gusty igloo]

i mean its not the devs fault that you only played it after 14 days

[stable pine]

“I hate this game and I’m gonna release my anger on random players”

[ancient mortar]

You probably should try your games out after you buy them to make sure you don't wanna refund them.

[shrewd kelp]

Yeh pal. Its your fault

[ancient mortar]

almost every service has a refund policy like this, 14 days is GENEROUS

[shrewd kelp]

TRUE

[gusty igloo]

yeah imo its better than steam

[ancient mortar]

steam is like 48 hours

[stable pine]

Now remember the guy who completed game in 2 hours and refunded

[ebon magnet]

I had 14 entire days to refund and I didnt care so now I cant refund it!! Stupid devs

[gusty igloo]

no?
steam games can be refunded if not played for longer than 2 hours

[arctic epoch]

Steam is also 14 days what are yall on?

Its 2 hours of playtime or after 14 days of purchase

[exotic dome]

yea

[gusty igloo]

yeah

[ancient mortar]

This is why i wait to buy a game until im actually gonna play it, unless its like on turbo sale and i know i want it anyway (thats how i got almost all the darkest dungeon games and dlc for less than 40 bucks)

[sand breach]

Hiii

[gusty igloo]

sooo ps is more generous cuz no time limit

[exotic dome]

true

[gusty igloo]

you can technically pour out 336 hours of the game and refund it

[shrewd kelp]

Orrr that guy didnt even touch the game. No in beetween

[ancient mortar]

Last i checked it was 48, did they change it?

[shrewd kelp]

Looks like that guy stoppe talking

[arctic epoch]

Yeah, its been like this for a while

[gusty igloo]

he didnt toych it for 14+ days

[stable pine]

buys the game
not plays it or even tests it

[gusty igloo]

when i buy a game i immediatley play it

[shrewd kelp]

Whos genuinely going to refund a game they had so much fun with after finishing it just for 20 doolars back

[arctic epoch]

Silksong isn't an exactly content-heavy game either. It's only 50-60 hours of content for a casual player

People buy it early cause they loved Hollow Knight

[gusty igloo]

okay but this chat finally has a normal discussion for once 🙏

[ancient mortar]

id say its more content than basegame hollow knight

[gusty igloo]

it is A LOT for 20 dollars

[stable pine]

Less than 10 dollars in my country

[gusty igloo]

especially that its a single player story game

[split cape]

40 dollars for both and you get over 100 hours of peak

[arctic epoch]

Yea but the industry shifted, 50-60 is to me the average gameplay of a casual player if they enjoy the game (it can be even less)

[ancient mortar]

Suicide jokes arent that funny bro

[shrewd kelp]

True. All bad sk reviews are people expecting silksong not to have bugs since it just released

[arctic epoch]

The mods arw always watching.

[stable pine]

20$ ain’t that deep bro🥀

[shrewd kelp]

Ts is NOT funny

[gusty igloo]

if you arent joking please seek help immediatley

[white rivet]

if 50-60 hours isnt content heavy i dont know what is

[arctic epoch]

200 hours ish

[split cape]

Suicide bait 🥀

[shrewd kelp]

Content heavy is like waht more than three day worth of gameplay

[shrewd kelp]

Basically almost every pc game

[ancient mortar]

I've gotten a good 200 hourse our of silksong so far, but half thats challenge runs. Id say elden ring is content heavy and even that didn't take me 200 on a first playthrough

[stable pine]

I wonder what his reaction gonna be when he’ll enter Hunters March

40+

[ebon magnet]

About 40

[gusty igloo]

like 40

[white rivet]

not true bro lmao

[ancient mortar]

43 not counting repeat fights

[ebon magnet]

What about Groal

[shrewd kelp]

No no. Im not wrong

[stable pine]

Computer in the lake

[split cape]

Some good some bad some straight dogshit

[gusty igloo]

every area has like 1-2 fights on average

[shrewd kelp]

Alot of pc games are content heavy

[gusty igloo]

actually 2-3

[gusty igloo]

but in the early game youre gonna fight 1 per area

[ancient mortar]

Yall should buy look outside its a massive rpg for like 10 dolla

[arctic epoch]

Celeste is a content-heavy game

Not because it inherently release as a content-heavy game. It's just that the game is old, and it held a long spot in the industry so the amount of content built up by the community is massive.

One collab mod had me going for 200 hours and i'm not even through with it

[shrewd kelp]

And if you wanna start an argument. Just knoe that im right

[stable pine]

Yeah

[white edge]

idk where to put this but fucking what(lumafly)

[white rivet]

dude a game like white knuckle or rain world or hades 2 are all content heavy and i have like 30-50 hours on those

[gusty igloo]

what game?

[ancient mortar]

The name is look outside, its a horror rpg. Very well written, great art.

[shrewd kelp]

So im right?

[white edge]

ohh

ik where to put it now

[white rivet]

are you not agreeing that 200 hours is the standard for content heavy? i thought thats what you were agreeing with myb if im misunderstanding here

[gusty igloo]

i need to play another metroidvania

[stable pine]

Well, next time try testing games you buy before refund cannot be done

[gusty igloo]

thats harddsd

[shrewd kelp]

You are misunderstanding good sir

[white rivet]

oh good lmao

[gusty igloo]

i wnana play hytale tbh but in poor as shit

[ancient mortar]

Have you played blasphemous or nine sols? Both are pretty good.

[shrewd kelp]

Leave this server.

[arctic epoch]

Rain World:

• its not a metroidvania, i just want to mention it

[gusty igloo]

what genre is wolfenstein?

[white rivet]

nine sols has the best final boss in a videogame

[ancient mortar]

Action fps

[stable pine]

Why are you there then

[ebon magnet]

Why did bro even join the server
Just to complain about refunds??

[gusty igloo]

no
hk is my first and only metroidvania lol

[shrewd kelp]

If yer wanna hate on the game the server revolves around. Just leave

Leave this server if hk is so shit for you

[ancient mortar]

There was one guy who got banned because he was so angry about bilewater he started saying truly vile shit i cant repeat about the devs.

[white rivet]

bilewater is fun

[shrewd kelp]

Valid crashout lowkey

[arctic epoch]

Bilewater suckass

[exotic dome]

valid

[shrewd kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-he-lying-wong-gif-5558347777370316415

[ancient mortar]

He also got just as mad about last judge so i can't really get behind him

[stable pine]

Which one

[gusty igloo]

the marrow i assume?

[hoary coyote]

the reason why we have hornet x ghost videos its because people who make these comics or whatever this shit is didnt even play the game of even if they played the game they didnt read the lore, which pisses me off

[gusty igloo]

is everything gray

[ebon magnet]

Did you read the title card that appears when you enter the area
I cant tell which one

[white rivet]

i had been wanting an area as punishing as the worst designed BUT VERY HARD things id seen in videogames without the bullshit parts and bilewater did exactly that. it satiated my very specific thirst

[shrewd kelp]

Why are you even here if you dont like the game?

[ancient mortar]

Sunk cost fallacy

[brave geyser]

Deep docks? What about it

[shrewd kelp]

Deepnest lowket sucks

[soft belfry]

We can hope so

[arctic epoch]

Rain World:

[gusty igloo]

idoubt tbh

[shrewd kelp]

Im actually saying a good question

[gusty igloo]

do you have a map yet?

[brave geyser]

what's going on here

[marsh spoke]

the hell are you people arguing about

[shrewd kelp]

But he stated he dont like the game so why are you still here

[gusty igloo]

did you found the map maker?

[ebon magnet]

Guy who complained about refunds for buying silksong when he had 14 entire days to do so

[hoary coyote]

the only real ship that could be considered canon is nailsmith and sheo

[ancient mortar]

Another person bought the game without playing the first game or doing any research and is now taking out their anger here lol.

[orchid locust]

whats y’all’s favorite rpgs i wanna experience three dimensional gameplay for a bit before returning to silksong 💀

[exotic dome]

sea of sorrow february 24th

[marsh spoke]

@orchid locust rant session in the gc in about 2-3 hours

[ebon magnet]

Sea of Tomorrow

[shrewd kelp]

And and le'mer and traitor child

[gusty igloo]

there are 2 singing characters

[brave geyser]

should i just leave high halls to the very end just to see how genuinely free it becomes

[white rivet]

im probably gonna make a video on rain world at some point because that game infuriates me. it is filled with incredible things and horrible infuriating design that i dont see talked about at all. its like an s tier game combined with an f tier game so it evens out at a B tier which sucks. i really wanna talk about that after im done with my year long project lmao

[ebon magnet]

Yeah thats the one

[shrewd kelp]

So you do know shakra huh

[ebon magnet]

Buy a map and a quill from her

[ancient mortar]

and compass

[ebon magnet]

He probably read her title card when you alk to her

[marsh spoke]

FIRE emoji

[shrewd kelp]

If so he wouldve read sherma names aswell

[gusty igloo]

yeah shakra is the map maker
going left of her is the standard progression and a way to the 2nd boss (which can be hard) but its the only way to progress
-# without difficult speedrun skils

[shrewd kelp]

Might want to watch tutorials

[ebon magnet]

You drop a cocoon when you die because your sort of a spider, you can attack your cocoon to get your money back

[gusty igloo]

he knows shakra name

[brave geyser]

Anyway barbed bracelet + hunter focus is genuinely op

[arctic epoch]

Damn? Really? The game so far is amazing for me, its just so cpu intensive im waiting for my new pc to play with

[shrewd kelp]

Its just hk overall

[gusty igloo]

ohwow youre at deep docks already

[white rivet]

i went through drainige system backwards and looped the entire map before finding 5 pebbles ok. underhang and five pebbles were almost worth it but not quite

[gusty igloo]

i thought youre at the marrow

[brave geyser]

Knew it. Nobody can die at marrow
Anyway you got dash?

[soft belfry]

Wb pk and white lady

[shrewd kelp]

I like rain world. But it lowkey lacks music or maybe mine is just bugged

[soft belfry]

It is yea

[brave geyser]

Alr so what are you trying to do here?

[shrewd kelp]

Thats not a ship. Theyre literally married

[soft belfry]

Me:

[gusty igloo]

yoy can just try farming these workers for money and buy a map from shakra

[ancient mortar]

Rw has a peak soundtrack it just plays tracks sparingly, usually only a few rooms per region trigger the full tracks outside of just ambient music.

[ebon magnet]

Buy deep docks map if your lost there

[brave geyser]

Well progression is towards the right

[gusty igloo]

maybe its better to sleep?

[white rivet]

i think it has too much music, if it savored music for good moments like the citadel area theme and reaching the wall and 5 pebbles it would be great, but they kinda spam it whenever and it ruins the vibe i think it could have had if left barren

[ebon magnet]

You can buy the others later since youve already went through them

[soft belfry]

Farm a guy

[gusty igloo]

yeah

[shrewd kelp]

Aight man. I lowkey wanna play with people but none of my friends actually have a pc

[ebon magnet]

AFTER you get money

[brave geyser]

Look i lost a steel soul run there too just no one normal can die in marrow

[ancient mortar]

Rw is singleplayer no?

[gusty igloo]

i died 💀

[soft belfry]

First playthrough lmao

[ancient mortar]

Jolly coop is only local coop without mods iirc

[brave geyser]

idk man like who tf even is in marrow

Massive moss charger??

[soft belfry]

I'm doing a challenge run where I can only clawline for damage

[lavish apex]

you have to be good at the game to use this combo well so not really

[shrewd kelp]

How do you even die to those ballow looking guys. Theyre lowkey one of the easiest to kill. But that flying asshole sucks

[last dew]

@brave geyser

[gusty igloo]

you can go back to the place where you died and break a cocoon you leave to get money back if you didnt know

[brave geyser]

Oh right

[ancient mortar]

the humble beastfly

[ebon magnet]

Then get good and not die

[gusty igloo]

but only if you dont die before getting it back

[brave geyser]

July

[soft belfry]

Kill 1 guy, sit at a bench to heal, then kill the same guy

[brave geyser]

Oh right that makes sense

[white rivet]

both rain world and expedition 33 are extremely flawed games and i feel insane having nobody else talk about it

[ancient mortar]

How are those games at all comprable lol

[shrewd kelp]

And before saying anything. I played silksong WITHOUT actually ever beating hk. Hell i was still in greenpath

[gusty igloo]

yeah sitting wt a bench respawns them

[soft belfry]

Bro's at the gauntlet

[ebon magnet]

Where does it lead to that doesnt specify anything

[gusty igloo]

what gauntlet

[brave geyser]

Anyway guys just imagine hunter focus 2 + hivesteel + barbed + flintslate + shakra against high halls

[arctic epoch]

How is it flawed? Huh

[shrewd kelp]

I did beat hk now

[white rivet]

those are the only 2 games that i dont see any criticsm about when i really had problems with parts lol

[soft belfry]

Deep docks

[brave geyser]

The one leading to daughter forge

[white rivet]

which

[gusty igloo]

ah

[orchid locust]

rain world has 9 letters and 3*3=9 like expedition 33

[arctic epoch]

Rain World

[soft belfry]

I can't believe I beat deep dock gauntlet with clawline

[shrewd kelp]

Lowkey you need to watch some yt guides. This is pretty concerning

[white rivet]

lemme write up a paragraph rq

[ancient mortar]

Rain world gets like so much hate lol. It is peak though its just one of those games thats too niche for general audiences.

[ebon magnet]

You die like minimum thrice in deep docks not counting the gauntlets or bosses bro

[brave geyser]

I can't believe you didn't fall asleep during that

[shrewd kelp]

Also just dodges those shitholes

Theyre NOT wotrh killong

[soft belfry]

If I sleep, I die

[ancient mortar]

You can whack their throwing weapons out of the air with your weapon.

[brave geyser]

Gauntlet

[shrewd kelp]

Only kill the ones with the spear

[brave geyser]

Shrue

[gusty igloo]

wow this conversation is so engaging i didnt realise i need to go off on the next stop

[soft belfry]

The main issue is it's like hitless cos I can't heal

So 4 hits

[shrewd kelp]

You genuinely CANT die at the gauntlet unless you have actual skill issue

[gusty igloo]

where is your spawn

[brave geyser]

I mean sure but then again that's not helping still

[soft belfry]

I died atleast 20 times first playthrough

[shrewd kelp]

YOU LOOSE YOUR MONEY IF YOU DIE THE SECOND TIME. GIVE IT UP

[brave geyser]

Oh well you had 7 rosaries to your name so

[shrewd kelp]

The gauntlet dude

[gusty igloo]

and do you have a dashing/running ability?

[soft belfry]

Yes the gauntlet

[ancient mortar]

Actually you know what metroidvania yall should play? Laika:aged through blood. Its 7.99 in us rn and its really good and never got enough attention.

[gusty igloo]

oj its kinda far

[brave geyser]

Savage beastfly killed me 80 times before i beat it.
And i did stuff like RaBHOG before playing silksong

[shrewd kelp]

Oh i thought you meant like moss grotto to deep docks. Welp

[soft belfry]

Isn't that ant gauntlet

[graceful oyster]

Safeway fried chicken is unreasonably good

[brave geyser]

They already have dash

[ebon magnet]

LOL

[gusty igloo]

he already gotten dash

[shrewd kelp]

Lowkey. Savage is optional and UBFORGIVING

[brave geyser]

@fickle wagon watch yo fucking tone

[ebon magnet]

Dont say slurs buddy

[soft belfry]

Isn't there a bench past dash

[gusty igloo]

i killed both beastflies on my 2nd attempt

[brave geyser]

i just couldn't let my ego get hurt like that

[tough wolf]

It's midnight again is the conversation about silksong or something unrelated

[brave geyser]

Iam a type B player

[gusty igloo]

yeah

[brave geyser]

Funnily enough savage beastfly 2 took me 1 try and under 40 seconds and i was genuinely disappointed

[ebon magnet]

Its hard for a reason

[soft belfry]

I died at least 5-40 times to everything cos I played silksong first and blind

Up till 4C I crashed out and looked for a guide

[brave geyser]

Who are you even dying to is the freaking last judge every enemy in your game?

[gusty igloo]

blizly
do you find this game fun bur you are frustrated that you die?
or do you play this game because you bought it?

[shrewd kelp]

Since i saw alot of people quit silksong due to beastfly. I lowk just didnt bother him till late act 2

[soft belfry]

Cos you played it...

[brave geyser]

Forget allat did you beat lost sinner

[shrewd kelp]

Hey. I also played silksong blind aight

[soft belfry]

LJ is pretty easy tho

[gusty igloo]

i genuenely cant understand how ppl die to savage beastfly so much

[soft belfry]

I'm a mobile gamer normally I am lost on pc

[viscid peak]

Would recommend looking into what game you're buying to see if it's actually for you instead of just jumping on the hype

[soft belfry]

Atleast watch some gameplay

[gusty igloo]

no :3

[ancient mortar]

It aint a rage game mate you just played the more difficult sequel instead of learning the genre with the first game lol

[brave geyser]

Just imagine 3 LJS casually hanging out in deep docks

[shrewd kelp]

They are hard if you try to fight them early on

[soft belfry]

If the gates don't shut you can probably be fine

[gusty igloo]

any game thats hard can bw concidered a rage game

[split cape]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[exotic cedar]

I started silksong after p5 and silksong wasnt that difficult for me

[soft belfry]

I love savage beastfly platonically

[tough wolf]

Not intended to make you mad (for the most part, team cherry definitely has troll moments in this) it's just hard to learn, definitely pay attention to enemy animations for last judge in particular because her attacks are fast and ambiguous I think
I don't blame you for getting irritated though

[soft belfry]

It feels like that only the first time afterwards everything is easy

[gusty igloo]

same but it was difficult for me lol

[shrewd kelp]

You see. Its not a rage game. Its a game where you actually uses your brain instead of one shotting every enemies thats not a boss nor a mini boss

[brave geyser]

I started silksong after radiant all bindings collector and i still got my ass kicked

[ancient mortar]

nah a rage game is a game designed to piss the player off, like getting over it with bennet foddy. Not just hard games in general.

[viscid peak]

Aren't "rage games" designed specifically to piss players off? I wouldn't say Silksong fits that description other than a few things here and there

[shrewd kelp]

Alot of games makes normal enemies shitting easy. Meanwhile tc?

[gusty igloo]

bilewater bench;

[soft belfry]

They kinda are except for a few outliers

[ancient mortar]

Bilewater in isolation is a rage region

[brave geyser]

"oh you got the last needle upgrade? Cool however that ant fucker is still gonna take 4 hits to kill" (which is not to say they are still hard late game)

[shrewd kelp]

Most normal enemies is pretty hard even in act 2

[soft belfry]

Ost tho

[brave geyser]

Genuinely stop running into the fucking enemies gangalang 😭

[tough wolf]

Saving ts

[tough wolf]

Also saving ts

[soft belfry]

Most pilgrims are easy, I just avoid the reeds and judges

If I use silk skills they die

I don't have the habit of using

[gusty igloo]

i understand the frustration this guy is coming through
it can get very frustrating and boring having to go all the way back after dying in the same place a few times

[white rivet]

In no particular order other than what comes to mind IN MY OPINION
1: The rain timer having fluctuation in the amount of time it takes to rain each day is realistic, but unfair as it could end a run that would have made it to a hibernation spot if the rain had been a set time rather than being cut short
2: 5 pebbles is too easily missable
3: A lot of mobs can stay still for ages and completely block pathways. This is a design flaw of both the ai and room designs, as some rooms are a straight line with a mob along the way, leaving no way to avoid them. This is especially aggregious in the blue conglomerates in underhang and the centipedes in a couple areas.
4: The moose creatures are extremely buggy in how they work, and the throwables that attract them in no way signal that the deer would be attracted to them through sound or appearance
5: The karma system has no need to exist other than to punish needlessly and encourages grinding the same spot until it runs out of food.
6: I know people like to say this doesnt happen, but enemies CAN be offscreen and then either through a screen transition or pipe, get you, without really any way of you knowing beforehand
7: The main way of avoiding enemies (going in and back through "tunnels or pipes" yknow the connecty thingies is way to abusable and really discourages interacting with the environment to solve getting past enemies
8: You can and most likely will enter dark areas without the glow upgrade, turning it into a memorization simulator and a slog of trial and error
9: You can accidentally make your way into the final room of the game (Which i did multiple times) and then have to climb out of the pit you just put yourself in
10: Nonlinearity is one of the greatest strengths of this game, but in places, you can fall back into earlygame areas or traverse entire areas backwards before realising there is no way to actually progress that way ( I wasted 6 hours doing this)
11: You can teleport to any save by just grinding

[exotic dome]

holy wall

[brave geyser]

Try harder don't let the hoppers get to you 😭

[shrewd kelp]

Theres other things than the pilgrims in pharloom twin

[white rivet]

Theres more but thats the most i can send in one messege lmao

[dusk wadi]

rainlord lowk overated

[white rivet]

thats the most aggregious i think

[humble maple]

"congrats on getting the final nail upgrades at 500 DPS your reward is having that ant over there have more health than absrad"

[ancient mortar]

I think this ones on you my guy. You bought a game without researching it because of hype, didn't touch it to see if youd like it until you missed the refund period, played the WAY harder sequel first instead of starting from the first game.

[shrewd kelp]

Ive seen enough. Make him fight widow

[gusty igloo]

there should be a system where if you are very bad at silksong, the game transforms into hollow knight

[soft belfry]

What like the lavalarga

[ancient mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-widow-hornet-bonk-arito-gif-13643966964603239778

[shrewd kelp]

Idk man. The ANTS maybe THE CRAWS

[tough wolf]

Yeah and hollow knight's an easy game so they'll have no problem

[shrewd kelp]

Shhh. Dont put pressure on him.

[soft belfry]

Hold down then attack while above them to hit them and go over ig

[gusty igloo]

i need a hard metroidvaniaaa

to play

[shrewd kelp]

Make more money then

[soft belfry]

Craws are easy to kill and you can easily parkour over the ants it's a side area not compulsory until act 3

[ancient mortar]

Have you played nine sols or blasphemous?

[tough wolf]

Yeah that's a shame. Hope you can play deltarune soon, that game is also very much worth your time even if it's difficult at points

[gusty igloo]

no

is nine sols difficult?

[tough wolf]

Nine sols was so difficult I refunded it

[ancient mortar]

both are quite difficult and good metroidvanias

[shrewd kelp]

I said when in act 2. Gangalang

[gusty igloo]

i heard it doesnt have contact damage

[exotic dome]

blasphemous is pretty easy compared to hk

[gusty igloo]

yeah deltarune is relaxing

[tough wolf]

Ok anakin skywalker

The geometry dash level?

[shrewd kelp]

Ori has overall great music and isnt actually rage inducinh

[gusty igloo]

i want rage inducing games

[graceful oyster]

And Ori has bash

[gusty igloo]

i aint playing ori ever then

[tough wolf]

My hardest is B and I'm jumping to future funk as soon as we get geode back

[shrewd kelp]

Dawg the story and music is so peak

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-tough-tough-guy-dog-dog-meme-gif-3382338814942269235

[brave geyser]

It's okay twin you can play silksong 2 years later 🫂

[gusty igloo]

is there a difficulty setting i can setvon max on my fkrst playthrough?

[soft belfry]

My current nightmare

[graceful oyster]

Ori 2 does

[soft belfry]

Yeah in act 2

[graceful oyster]

Ori 2 is better anyway

[gusty igloo]

ori 2 is the ori and the will of the wisps?

[shrewd kelp]

Actually theres difficulty. Easy normal and hard. And normal is for people who actually wants fun idk abt hard tho

[wheat cliff]

guys, i married lace, i had a wedding and everything, im so happy

[shrewd kelp]

Any game with the word cod in it is a p2w game

[soft belfry]

Check pins

[graceful oyster]

Research that though I'm not 100%

[gusty igloo]

do i need to play ori 1 to understand the lore?

[tough wolf]

Not true

[brave geyser]

Ur ready vro

[brave geyser]

Happy for you but also check pins

[graceful oyster]

It helps a lot but not strictly necessary

[shrewd kelp]

Nah i am