sk-discussion

[verbal steeple]

i unno it doesn't really taste like anything

[gray ginkgo]

My favorite is reaper

[icy crow]

I should go buy Grindle's stuff knowing his prices are ass

[night ruin]

I’m sorry for that. I genuinely don’t know where else to go with this

[marsh spoke]

Its fine twin

[verbal steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-vessel-hollow-knight-gif-8691405304708562462

[verbal steeple]

grindle is such a goat

[steep jolt]

"no cost too great"

[marsh spoke]

i didnt mean anything personal

[verbal steeple]

skilsak issue

[rich herald]

it was a mistake and it doesnt mean youre a bad person for that

[gray ginkgo]

I am excited for sea of sorrow

[steep jolt]

my rosary strings came in clutch

[verbal steeple]

there's alot of dog whistles that are very well hidden

[delicate ice]

Someone joined to cause chaos and disrupt this natural ecosystem

[exotic cedar]

Sea of sorrow was so fun to make we decided to expand it to ocean of agony

[night ruin]

Ocean of agony? You mean Lake Erie

[strange knot]

What happened

[night ruin]

The fire nation attacked

[exotic cedar]

Idk what that is

[icy crow]

A giant celestial dinossaur decided to take a chomp of Earth

[verbal steeple]

weird guy being a weird guy

[marsh ibex]

lake in the us

[exotic cedar]

Oh

[marsh ibex]

near michigan

[mighty crest]

how can it be agony it has cedar point

[marsh ibex]

great lake

[strange knot]

That makes sense

[exotic cedar]

I don't know much about us states etc.

[icy crow]

Anyways, I should get to explore Memorium

[orchid locust]

sorry if i came off as brash i didn't mean anything personal by it

[night ruin]

Holy shit you make a great point. What is objectively the worst Great Lake

[icy crow]

Then I can save Jubilana's ass again

[mighty crest]

the fact is lake superior>>>>

[exotic cedar]

Just tell a trusted adult

[night ruin]

I didn’t take it personally I just felt embarrassed lol

Genuinely just didn’t know and i kind of ruined a fun moment over it

[icy crow]

I lured the dinossaur away with a boomerang it's fine

[orchid locust]

lake superior is the best great lake i will not be listening to any arguments

[lusty grove]

idk why, but this is so funny to me

[exotic cedar]

You are the goat

[mighty crest]

truke

[rich herald]

lake michigan

[night ruin]

I’m gonna break into your home

[rich herald]

wtf

[night ruin]

Never talk about goat like that again 🐺

[orchid locust]

superior > ontario > erie > huron > michigan

[rich herald]

lake michigan is NOT the goat

[gray ginkgo]

I am in the end of act two i did everything except fight groul the great and then onto act 3

[marsh ibex]

why do they have shooters

They’re lakes

[night ruin]

Lake Michigan slander the void is REAL

[graceful oyster]

[lusty grove]

how? Groal the Great is required for act 3

[night ruin]

Don’t we all have a favorite body of water

[verbal steeple]

lakes are overrated

water is mid

[marsh ibex]

If you’re on that singular patch

[rich herald]

my favorite body of water of all time is tge sargasso sea

[night ruin]

Hating on water is a choice

[lusty grove]

I'm on current patch

[night ruin]

Hold on I gotta look up where that is

[exotic cedar]

"I am in the end of act two"

[marsh spoke]

somewhat doxxworthy but i do live near a notable river that ive never been to

[mighty crest]

the fact is that duluth through grand marais>>>>going to the gym

[gray ginkgo]

Yeah I know I am about to enter act 3 I need to beat him first

[marsh ibex]

Look at these sweats

[verbal steeple]

yall like water because it's wat-HER

[lusty grove]

that's... that feels wrong

[marsh ibex]

“Doxxworthy” and it’s “I live near a notable river”

[exotic cedar]

That's why i quit silksong too many sweats

[rich herald]

Googling: NOTABLE RIVERS

[marsh ibex]

like wow

[night ruin]

Yes and women can be anything

[marsh ibex]

sis lives next to the Mississippi

doxxed!!!

[lusty grove]

sis lives next to the Amazon river

sis lives next to the Nile

[rich herald]

I never knew you lived next to the yangtze river

[marsh spoke]

you can actually find it if you think hard enough 🌳

[night ruin]

Every river is notable if you do enough anthropology

[lusty grove]

no river is notable if you're not thirsty

[rich herald]

Astigmatism… lives in the river thames?

[marsh ibex]

I miss her

[rich herald]

I’m… I’m going to spread the word.

[night ruin]

I live in the river Styx

[marsh spoke]

Sis lives in hell

[last dew]

crine

[night ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/america-patriotic-eagle-usa-patriotism-gif-9438241

[rich herald]

Get out of there

[night ruin]

It is indeed hell

[gray ginkgo]

She lives in Britain

[last dew]

this pretty thing

[night ruin]

Styx was promised to me 2000 years ago

[verbal steeple]

styx is just like me

[exotic cedar]

I love styx

[last dew]

stynx is everything to me

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/styx-silksong-bug-styx-love-silksong-styx-gif-5523667019778148263

[verbal steeple]

styx is just like us

[marsh ibex]

styx is creepy

[spare flare]

I BEAT FIRST SINNER FOR THE FIRST TIME :DDDD

[night ruin]

Ggs!

[marsh ibex]

Good job mate

[rich herald]

styx and skynx and huntress and runt i would donate my left kidney for

[marsh ibex]

Proud of you

[wary storm]

styx is fraud

[exotic cedar]

Gratz

[spare flare]

im so happy about this :D

[last dew]

fax

[spare flare]

anyways LORE TIME

[marsh ibex]

now kill them all.

[last dew]

but i think it looks a decent amount of cute

[verbal steeple]

can't wait for sea of sorrow when styx uses a bunch of gathered fur from moss creatures so that hornet likes him

[orchid locust]

my top 5 water bodies

1. mediterannean
2. lake superior
3. arabian sea
4. hudson river (NOT IN NYC)
5. strait of singapore

[icy crow]

Anyways, I'ma go explore Memorium now

[last dew]

marchochon

[exotic cedar]

What if i drink them all

[rich herald]

whats your opinion on the sargasso sea

[night ruin]

Imagine styx takes the fur but leaves the flayed corpses 💀 hornet is just like wtf

[orchid locust]

i'd be sad

[marsh spoke]

Why the mediterannean

[icy crow]

Why hello there, July

[exotic cedar]

Sorry :(

[icy crow]

Would it be funny if I died to Huge Flea in Steel Soul

[night ruin]

U won’t no balls

[verbal steeple]

would hornet even care? she genocides alot

[icy crow]

I know

[orchid locust]

it's cool but i don't have many thoughts on like deep oceanic areas

[icy crow]

I'll explore Memorium now so I can trigger the second Jubilana rescue wish

[night ruin]

Shes not rlly the type to desecrate corpses

[rich herald]

i mean she Does

roach guts

[night ruin]

She will strip clothing from pilgrims but that’s not the same as taking furs

[verbal steeple]

but she's the type to kill a gay guy for no reason

[spare flare]

watching the whole "pharlids becoming weavers" thing felt weirdly like watching freakign body horror for some reason

[orchid locust]

historic and it has some pretty places on it and i really like the color of the water around italy/southern france

[marsh spoke]

fascinating

[crimson ember]

Doing a second play through and realizing I’m bad at heavily rng dependent fights

[exotic cedar]

What fights specifically

[crimson ember]

Moorwing

[strange knot]

Well, rng depended fights sucks

[wary storm]

"rng dependent"

• looks inside
  position problems

who tf placed a dot i didnt do it

[exotic cedar]

I don't think its rng dependent

Pretty telegraphed

[wary storm]

there's no rng bosses in silksong as far as i remember

[rich herald]

also just remembered ragpelt craw quest

[marsh spoke]

X

[rich herald]

she is quite evil to bug corpses

[strange knot]

Moorwing isn’t rng depended def

[crimson ember]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-floppy-hornet-slap-nuu-gif-11086988873395759079

[wary storm]

unravelled may be fucking dogshit but he's not rng

[gray ginkgo]

I love first sinner but she doesn't have enough health

[marsh spoke]

crawfather, karmelita. zango, ttrobbio come to mind

[wary storm]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G-4C86IXcAEAji4.gif

[exotic cedar]

All of them are act 3

[night ruin]

5.) Nile River
4.) Dead Sea
3.) southern ocean
2.) Lake Michigan
1.) Atlantic Ocean

[verbal steeple]

the only thing i like about reaper crest is that it gives me an excuse to use flea brew

[exotic cedar]

Hmmm

[night ruin]

Thought that was just clothing and gear again

[marsh spoke]

act 1 has like beastfly summons i guess

[grim widget]

Omg yes wanderer crest give me my sweet hk pogo back

[marsh spoke]

act 2 has uh

[rich herald]

nah pelts are like the skin and fur of animals

[wary storm]

oh shit fr beastfly can summon big shit

thats rng

[night ruin]

Are the craws wearing hoods or is that a part of their body

[orchid locust]

she takes organs though and skin is js another organ so she'd probably be an insane furrier

[rich herald]

and then roach guts is just her killing and gutting muckroaches

[exotic cedar]

Beastfly can like minion spam and shit

[marsh spoke]

forebrothers and father of the flame i guess its kinda stretching it though. also shakra

[exotic cedar]

I'm not a big fan of the first beastfly

[marsh spoke]

and trobbio but like its trobbio

[rich herald]

i assume the pelts are apart of them but just function and look like hoods maybe?

[verbal steeple]

the first beastfly is easy to get

y'know i wonder if i should do voided beast fly on my steel soul run

[rich herald]

idk theyre weird but look cool enough

[night ruin]

Pokemon machamp belt situation looks like

[gray ginkgo]

Who is your favorite boss? I think mine so far is second sentinel

[orchid locust]

what if there was a shermapelt quest where hornet skins sherma

[green valve]

oh my fucking god bro trobbio

[exotic cedar]

Karm i think

[green valve]

I GOTTA KIL LTROBBIO WITH 6 MASKS AND 0 SILK SPOOLS

[mighty crest]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-2-cheers-happy-excited-gif-13406404385856133045

[exotic cedar]

Be patient, staying in the corner can help

[green valve]

HSOI FUCKING BALLS

[golden karma]

I haven't seen averagedos in ages

[green valve]

I ALREADY DIED LIKE 15 TIMES IN THIS STEEL SOUL RUN

[mighty pilot]

should i sleep to 10 hour sherma or 10 hour poshanka?

[orchid locust]

poshanka

[green valve]

LIKE IT ISNT EVEEN STEEL SOUL ANYMOER

[void moat]

10 hour karak

[marsh spoke]

i havent seen haystacks in ages

[orchid locust]

i think 10 hours of sherma would literally sever the axial connections in my brain

[rich herald]

10 hour sherma will cause sleep paralysis

[golden karma]

Nothing to do really except wait for sea of sorrow

[exotic cedar]

10 hour sherma is a forbidden chinese torture method

[rocky jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1071533012879159458/1096978117161123910/speed-12-1.gif

[golden karma]

I would have a bunch of stuff to do but silksong is Deleted for now

[fast ridge]

Hey uhh guys whats harder silskong or dead cells?

[exotic cedar]

Dead cells BC's are pretty hard esp 3+

Silksong isnt that bad

[marsh spoke]

why did you kill it

[fast ridge]

Same for me

[orchid locust]

new wikileak, CIA allegedly used 10 hours of sherma on abu ghalib inmates

[fast ridge]

Is it fast paced?

[rocky jolt]

too excited for sea of sorrow so i uninstalled silksong and blocked team cherry

[exotic cedar]

Uh i find boss cell difficulties stressful

Limited healing

Like i died on the last boss today

[fast ridge]

But is the game fast paced

[exotic cedar]

Uhh

I think so? I have no idea what would you find fast paced

[barren dew]

Hi

[fast ridge]

Silksong

[exotic cedar]

HELLO bon

[marsh spoke]

go fast

[barren dew]

HELLO apple

[orchid locust]

bon-jour

[exotic cedar]

I thinks it's pretty fast paced yeah

[barren dew]

Hey that's that's creative

[rocky jolt]

styx is a divorced father of 5

[fast ridge]

Ok so im a pro at it

[void moat]

foolish to assume any women were ever attracted to him

[fast ridge]

Im much better at sk cus of it being fast paced cus hk isnt as fast

[exotic cedar]

Dead cells BC's are pretty stressful

[barren dew]

Do you hate my goat.....

[void moat]

i like him but you can't deny he's a chud

[rocky jolt]

creature

[barren dew]

Hey HEY NOW he ain't a chud I'm the chud one here

[orchid locust]

which silksong character is the biggest reddit user

[exotic cedar]

Styx is a cutie pie

[void moat]

kratt

[orchid locust]

apart from kratt ik everyone is gonna say him

[void moat]

fuck you

[verbal steeple]

pilby

[tough wolf]

Isn't classification available to you in act 1 though
iirc they said it was specifically act 2 (I could definitely be wrong I was super tired last night)

[barren dew]

Kratt is ugly and should go bald

[golden karma]

That one ai slop video of epstein catching the bullet for kirk but it's kratt catching the boulder for ballador

[marsh spoke]

not available in act 1

you need act 2

[barren dew]

This is genuinely frying me

[fast ridge]

My glorious cross stitch is back

[orchid locust]

honestly i could see ballador on sm "I'm the Conductor of the Citadel, AMA"

[exotic cedar]

Wut

[night ruin]

The what of what😭 what is our world coming to

[fast ridge]

The shield also how do i heal

[exotic cedar]

Flask

You can upgrade it too

[fast ridge]

How do i get that

[barren dew]

We are conductor Ballador.

[exotic cedar]

Hmm, is it not unlocked in the beginning? I don't remember

[fast ridge]

Oh these portals are fast travel

[main summit]

Yeah it is

Wait no

[marsh spoke]

dash attack finish 🔥

[tough wolf]

Oh this was injecting yourself with 9 of them
I thought they meant general mb

[void moat]

we are the conductors! we carry the flame! we fight for first children! we honor their name!

[main summit]

You gotta buy it

[exotic cedar]

Oh

[marsh spoke]

i love silkspear sm

[exotic cedar]

I don't remember dead cells early game i played it too much

[fast ridge]

At the start u get a sword shield and bow

[barren dew]

https://tenor.com/view/he-made-a-statement-statement-dog-gang-praised-gif-14847923944265501688

[verbal steeple]

plasmium phial should have a pollip pouch interaction where if ur plasmium masks get damaged they cause a poison gas instead of summoning a temporary mask

[night ruin]

WHAT IS HAPPENING

[main summit]

😭💔

[golden karma]

We are Balladooor

[night ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304503230645928029/1458911550940123156/caption.gif

[rich herald]

did you do normal second senti hitless or did you find a different mod

[verbal steeple]

this should also work with plasmium overdose but instead u also gain a poison aura

[main summit]

Kirky is a little quirky

[barren dew]

WHO made this

[orchid locust]

Sora

[golden karma]

What do i know bro

[fast ridge]

Thats litteraly what it does

[marsh spoke]

Why did they ai generate a video of @rich herald being saved by kratt

[golden karma]

Who Typed in the prompt

[marsh spoke]

Normal cause im dogshit at parrying

[icy crow]

A dead Savage Beastfly in Memorium is so funny lmfao

[rich herald]

?

[barren dew]

This is frying me

[rich herald]

????????????????

@barren dew

[orchid locust]

monkey on a typewriter number 13,991,215,812,375

[barren dew]

WHAT IS THIS SLANDER

[marsh spoke]

I said what I said ❤️

[verbal steeple]

nope. if u use pollip pouch and plasmium it summons a temporary mask that on its own explodes into gas. what i'm suggesting is that it only EXPLODES into gas if u get hit

[quartz gulch]

Gotta say though, second sentinel is the most fun to parry put of all bosses. Especially with wanderers crest.

[barren dew]

@rich herald

[exotic cedar]

Third beastfly fight in godhome confirmed

[night ruin]

Oh yeah that would be way better

[fast ridge]

@exotic cedar what do those blue orbs that enemys drop do

[fast ridge]

Ohhhh

[rich herald]

bon

[exotic cedar]

You can get items/upgrades with them

[quartz gulch]

Sprech Englisch

[barren dew]

This is bell eater and green prince because both of them are frauds

Hollow

[exotic cedar]

Between biomes you will meet someone that uses your cells to unlock stuff for you

[barren dew]

My keyboard is a fraud

[rich herald]

Hey. Thanks for saving me in that video ❤️

[marsh spoke]

WHAT THE FUCK

[worn perch]

Alright
That's 2 endings obtained
Took me long enough lol

[marsh spoke]

Blocked ❤️

[barren dew]

I'M CRINE

[exotic cedar]

Hi crine

[orchid locust]

hey. fuck you for saving holly from my bullet.

[barren dew]

ENOUGH

[golden karma]

Kratt and Ballador

[marsh spoke]

I'M BEING SLANDERED

[golden karma]

Trust

[quartz gulch]

YOU'RE BEING SLAUGHTERED

[golden karma]

Is blud Einstein? So smart

[barren dew]

Is Kratt protecting Ballador

[golden karma]

Yes

Catches the rock

[barren dew]

I'm crine

I'm the people who saw everything

[night ruin]

It MIGHT carry a certain flame of sorts

[barren dew]

Fraudgpt please generate me a Silksong character ALL frauds would love!

🔄GENERATING🔄

Your new character is...Kratt

[night ruin]

I wonder if people unironically adore Kratt

[exotic cedar]

Free money

[minor elbow]

Wha

[exotic cedar]

<@&283547423706447872> scam

[night ruin]

<@&283547423706447872> a year old member too that’s crazy

[barren dew]

MONEY

[night ruin]

Do people set these bots up so far in advance just to scam 😭

[barren dew]

Actually no

[minor elbow]

At least put it in a Jake Paul server or smth

[marsh spoke]

phished accounts

[night ruin]

It says they joined in March of last year

[barren dew]

You can still get hacked even if you never clicked on links btw

[minor elbow]

Twins is this a flex

[exotic cedar]

Again???

[lusty grove]

is this a good build?

[exotic cedar]

Best crest is the crest you are comfortable with

[barren dew]

Not talking about dates I'm talking about the fact you can still get hacked

[night ruin]

That makes more sense

[tame river]

GUYS I BEAT WIDOW AFTER 88 ATTEMPT

[minor elbow]

88?!?!?!

[tame river]

Yeah

[barren dew]

<@&283547423706447872> sorry

[minor elbow]

Good job twin

[verbal steeple]

REALLLY wanna use pollip pouch since i'm using flea brew

[night ruin]

I lost my Reddit account that way. Nothing of value was lost

[tame river]

Ty

[verbal steeple]

but i'm playing steel soul so i wanna use plasmium phial

[rich herald]

@barren dew Astig HATES MEEEEEE

[quartz gulch]

Then do so?

[verbal steeple]

that fuckass plasmium interaction with pollip pouch sucks so much team cherry why

[minor elbow]

Yeah that’s tuff

[barren dew]

WHAT EVEN IS THIS SLANDER WHAT DID YOU DO

[quartz gulch]

It balances architect though.

[verbal steeple]

NO

[golden karma]

Nightmare King Kratt fight redeemed hin

[quartz gulch]

It does dude.

[verbal steeple]

architects don't even NEED pollip pouch

[rich herald]

Im FUNNY so she HATES ME

[night ruin]

Imagine

[verbal steeple]

they shit so much damage a second that pollip pouch pretty much does nothing

[quartz gulch]

Pollip pouch is best on Architect.

[verbal steeple]

pollip pouch damage doesn't stack

[barren dew]

I hope not

[quartz gulch]

I don't tool spam, so my poison actually does something.

[barren dew]

Astig hates funny people sighs.....

[night ruin]

Weve got Valentino stans out there in the world. Anything is possible

[quartz gulch]

[barren dew]

Unfortunately yes

[quartz gulch]

/j

[verbal steeple]

yeah so? it doesn't exactly nerf architect. infact it nerfs the people ACTUALLY enjoying architect and making tool spam even more powerful

[night ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-bear-spongebob-safety-anti-sea-bear-circle-spongebob-funny-gif-8782259290133626566

[gusty igloo]

anyone has that groal purple cogfly anime thing pls i need it rn

[barren dew]

We should fry kratt

[rich herald]

True!

[gusty igloo]

plsplsplspslpslssplsplsls

[verbal steeple]

you're the won enjoying architect crest while the ones with tool spam just get free damage

[rich herald]

Astig just LOWK hates enbies

[verbal steeple]

we must kill architect spammers

[gusty igloo]

enbyphobia

[verbal steeple]

it's the only way society rebuilds itself

[night ruin]

Single player game who gaf

[barren dew]

I'm hungry

[verbal steeple]

spread the agenda

[rich herald]

go eat twintavious

[marsh spoke]

@native canyon your fav is washed btw

straight up skipped phase 2 LMFAO

[icy crow]

This is why we should burn Jubilana in a dumpster fire

[marsh spoke]

and most of 3

[verbal steeple]

spider strings more like spider shit

[night ruin]

I haven’t had an appetite since I started my new meds three weeks ago 💔

[barren dew]

I want 300000 shawarmas

[exotic cedar]

Push her off

[night ruin]

The meds make me gain weight too so I’m not even getting any benefit

[barren dew]

Marchon NO

[barren dew]

??????????

[icy crow]

What is it?

I can just farm for that extra 1% I don't mind it

[exotic cedar]

I HATE her

[barren dew]

That's my goat NEVER hate on my goat

[exotic cedar]

Her greed sickens me

[barren dew]

What the FREAK appl

[icy crow]

She's not the goat while selling the most useless jack ever

[verbal steeple]

plsoamsim

[icy crow]

I should get to explore Wisp Thicket

[barren dew]

I will eat 600000 shawarmas this is THE REAL greed

[night ruin]

Lore items supersede meta bullshit

[exotic cedar]

Its uhm i would do that too i love shawarma

Any sane person would eat that much shawarma

[barren dew]

Based actually

[rich herald]

Can we split

[barren dew]

all of them already in my belly sorryyyy

[night ruin]

I miss food but I like not being insane better

[rich herald]

[night ruin]

I wish I could have the best of both worlds

[barren dew]

[exotic cedar]

I like shawarma

[barren dew]

What the freak that's my food

[icy crow]

I'm not even metaplaying I just want to get the two last achievements already lol

Going to get the Mask Shard in Blasted Steps

[exotic cedar]

Maybe i should get one tomorrow and eat it infront of you

[barren dew]

What the FREAK apple

[rich herald]

bon wont share w me so i have to starve and die SIIIIIGH

[exotic cedar]

I can share with you im NOT greedy

[night ruin]

Erm what the sigma

[marsh spoke]

Fuck off you wont

[rich herald]

Thank you apple

[marsh spoke]

I'm sharing

[rich herald]

Thank you astig

[marsh spoke]

No problem oomf

[rich herald]

Everyone here is so kind except bon for some Odd reason…

[exotic cedar]

And she calls herself kind

[night ruin]

Lets jump bon

[marsh spoke]

bon more like king von

[cunning geode]

bon more like gone

[ripe geyser]

Does going with the fleas after finding the first 5 fleas bypass lace 1?

[night ruin]

I think so

You can see lace again at another point in act 1

[golden karma]

What if there was any option to replace L*ce's spires with a black censor box

So you don't have to. See her ever. Or something

[ripe geyser]

I’m 💯 gonna stunlock the second lace fight.

[night ruin]

Gets stunlocked

[gray ginkgo]

Why would you want that

What are your hopes for the dlc

[mighty crest]

more crest discourse

[gray ginkgo]

The alchemist crest

[ripe geyser]

I’ve got 3 fleas so far

[marsh ibex]

good writing

[gray ginkgo]

I hope we get new spells

[marsh ibex]

that’s about it

oh yeah uh distancing lifeblood from another infection

like please say zylotol fucked it up for wormways

[ripe geyser]

Act 1 flea locations?

[marsh ibex]

its just annoying bro

[void moat]

a bit too hopeful

[quartz gulch]

That's true, quicksling is such a bullshit tool. However stacked poison would be OP. They should just:
-Buff poison damage
-Weak tools deal more poison, stronger tools deal less
-Offensive blue tools deal poison damage (memory crystal, snitch pick, clawmirrors)

Barbed bracelet should get the buffs:
-Deals 30% extra damage
-Enemies receive 125% contact damage (animation, but no movement lock like thorns of agony)

Reaper should get the buffs:
-120% (/+20%) needle damage
-140% (/+40%) needle damage during focus
-extra 0.5 silk are gained passively with each needle attack

Memory crystal should get the buffs:
-deals 135% needle damage
-when not broken by enemies or the player, the spikes shoot outwards (150% needle damage)

Rosary cannon should get the buffs:
-Deals consistent damage with tool upgrades
(3 -> 4 -> 5-> 6-> 7)
-Can always be reloaded
-Quicksling shoots two rosaries at once

-Reserve bind should fill up when binding at full masks
-Druids eyes should give the silk instantly
-most tools should be balanced damage-wise, so to make slower tools deal more damage and faster tools deal less damage (longpin/throwing ring should do more damage than straight pin)
-Snare Setter should not be discarded
-You should be able to change the Silkshot variants like the voltvessels and volt bolas
-the threefold pin always deals the same damage

I'll make another message about the silkshots. Do you agree though, or would this be to good? I don't have regard for the pro-players, as they will call anything remotely good unbalanced.

[gray ginkgo]

I like lifeblood being fine in small quantities, but too much of it is really, really bad

[night ruin]

I hope we get more than just one new crest. I hope we eventually get a NG+ or something similar. I would also like to see some edits to some small few lines of writing. I wouldnt want retcons to get too heavy handed.

[golden karma]

Because lace is lamece

[night ruin]

More than anything i just would really like to see underwater platforming

[golden karma]

Please let there actually be underwater exploration bro

[void moat]

barnacle boss

[worn perch]

The first time I've ever seen a group of gamers ask for an underwater area in a game lol

[night ruin]

Maybe an epilogue for Lace. That would be very nice. She needs a real conclusion

[golden karma]

Muckmaggots 😂

[lusty grove]

is there anything I should be doing before going to act 3?

[night ruin]

Wat

[cobalt pilot]

Helo chat

About to head into the sculpting building

[night ruin]

Art student?

[exotic cedar]

id buy everything from the shops. Rosary grinding becomes harder in act 3

[cobalt pilot]

Yea

I have homework 🥹

[night ruin]

Im jelly. Art school was fun

[cobalt pilot]

It's fun but also it's hard with adhd

[marsh spoke]

mostly number concerns
-poison damage being buffed from 3 to 6 would be fine probably
-yeah probably
-ehhh im fine either way

-30%s fine
-yeah

-idt damage buffs are particularly needed. 120% base extra damage is alright though (also 25 is a nice number)
-id rather you get more silk per swing honestly
-yeah
-additionally I think 2 white slots 1 red would be a pretty good change

-i dont particularly care about memory crystal so I can't say

-buff it to 4-5-6-7-8 imo
-dont think this is particularly needed
-yes

-id rather a full rework of it but this is fine as well
-yeah
-this is true, i do wanna play around with numbers honestly so i might get back to you with this later
-i dont care about snare setter
-not a bad idea
-100% same with the silkshots

[night ruin]

I dont miss the people i knew in art school but the curriculum itself was great

[cobalt pilot]

I don't not enjoy schoolwork but it's a gamble on if I'll be able to focus on it

But that's why I went to calpus

[quartz gulch]

Silkshot buffs:
-you can change between variants on a bench, just like you can with voltvessels
-you still have to buy all variants, but only the first requires craftmetal
-All silkshots don't take up any shell shards, acting like secondary silk skills
-The architect's silkshot does the same damage for all three projectiles
-the weaver silkshot has a slightly faster windup
-the forge daughter silkshot deals the most damage and has the best range, but a slower shot and firing rate

[marsh spoke]

I think most damage should be 12th architect if you hit all 3

also i dont think them being limited is particularly terrible. It does suck that they take silk but id be fine if they removed the silk requirement entirely I don't think thats a big part of the tools identity really

[quartz gulch]

Sadly don't know where any of the damage values actually are. The rosary cannon might already be broken with 7dps though, simply due to the insane burstfire. While it isn't easy to keep firing at most bosses and lightweight enemies, the heavy enemies and bosses (such as last judge) would get absolutely demolished with 8dps.

[marsh spoke]

also imo weaver silkshot should do more damage upfront and have the damage be reduced for every enemy it pierces. It kinda sucks on single targets as is right now but i mean i dont mind if if stays the same really I just really want a 12 architect buff

[night ruin]

I didnt know people even bothered with silkshot

Its so mid

[verbal steeple]

does pollip pouch also increase tool damage or does it only add a poison affect to them that DEALS damage

[marsh spoke]

damage values are in wiki. Pollip specifically is 1-2-2-3-3 for clarification
Rosary cannon would be 80dps with 8 damage rosaries but I think that's a good enough trade off for being forced to stand still. You also dont have infinite of them

[verbal steeple]

because if it doesn't normally increase tool damage. i'd suggest it do that so it can be used alot better when stacking multiple tools at once. altho that might get OP if the damage increase is alot

[marsh spoke]

it only adds the poison effect

[verbal steeple]

it should increase tool dmg slightly

[marsh spoke]

im fine with it only being the poison effect tools really shouldnt have more direct tool damage increases

[night ruin]

Gotta be careful with flat damage buffs

[verbal steeple]

honestly i just want a pollip pouch plasmium combination that doesn't actively make plasmium WORSE

[marsh spoke]

they could've made it so that the gas cloud happens on damaged

[night ruin]

Yeah some pollip synergies are better than others

[verbal steeple]

that's exactly what i wanted

perhaps even make it still happen on overdose aswell

[exotic cedar]

What does it do ingame

[marsh spoke]

Plasmium masks explode after a few seconds on their own

[verbal steeple]

summons temporary masks (up to 3) that explode after a bit

[exotic cedar]

Fucking sucks

[verbal steeple]

basically masks that u can't even do shit with since they explode immediatly after

[marsh spoke]

also the flintslate anti synergy is bullshit

[night ruin]

I wonder who playtested silksong

[marsh spoke]

this servers admins

[night ruin]

Just them?

[marsh spoke]

yeah iirc

[quartz gulch]

To me the silk aspect of them and the snare setter is what makes them so special. If they would take up shards, you might as well just use straight pins, threefold pins and longpin. The silk aspect makes them unique.

I also was referring to damage per projectile.
(made up numbers for example, idk the real damage numbers)
The architect shots would deal 45 damage while the forge daughter deals 100. If each architect shot hits however, it adds up to 135 damage. That could also be changed to 50 -> 150, but I'm not sure about the balancing part of that.

The weavershot should deal 80 damage, which isn't good by itself. However it can pierce enemies and armor, hence dealing overall area damage with great crowd control.

[night ruin]

Im kinda surprised nobody caught the tool stuff then

[verbal steeple]

i can't believe Zal let that plasmium pollip pouch combination into the game

[umbral dagger]

the only good underwater level/area i can name off the top of my head is hydrocity zone

[verbal steeple]

why did zal do this...

[night ruin]

I wonder if zal still has me blocked lol

[verbal steeple]

tryna get skull tyrant to trigger because i want pilby to get killed

[exotic cedar]

So based

[mighty crest]

i think dkctf has good underwater levels

that’s it really

[umbral dagger]

dude i NEED to play the modern country games i'm so mad at myself for not having done so already

[mighty crest]

tropical freeze is easily one of the most creative platformers ive played in a while

[umbral dagger]

i'm not sure how underwater exploration would work in Skong though

[night ruin]

Hear me out: megaman x

The underwater levels there would translate VERY well in skong

[mighty crest]

megaman is pretty creative too

[verbal steeple]

can hornet even drown?

[marsh spoke]

here's the numbers
Mt fay - 10-16-22-28-34
12th 5.5-9.11-12.83-14.66-18.33
forge 15-18-22-26-30
max nail is 21 for comparison

[mighty crest]

we need to find out

[night ruin]

Thats what i wanna find out

[marsh spoke]

(current numbers)

[stoic knot]

i assume spiders can drown irl but idk abt hornet

[umbral dagger]

no spiders are too stubborn to drown

[marsh spoke]

12 architect is all 3 projectiles at once which is why it's decimals

[quartz gulch]

Here is how I think it should affect tools that it makes worse:
-Plasmium hearts become purple and explode in a poison smoke upon breaking (1# Goodcrest Hater)
-Overdosing is possible, but masks don't naturally regenerate. However you deal constant poison damage at all times
-Flintslate just adds poison to the extra needle damage

[umbral dagger]

-- sincerely, a mildly arachnophobic person

[night ruin]

If hornet can drown then that brings me to my next big hope/cope/prediction: woven air bubble ability

[fallow frigate]

What about the itsy bitsy spider

[stoic knot]

ngl her immortality kinda throws a monkey wrench into things

[night ruin]

Team cherry hire me

[umbral dagger]

maybe hornet can climb up the water spout with that one spine bracelet yellow tool

[fresh spire]

guys im too goated at this game

[timber beacon]

I still fw the idea of phantom being they them due to lost identity and i have an theory

[fallow frigate]

Isn’t she immortal as in can’t die from old age

[mighty crest]

hornet becomes araquanid

[timber beacon]

the mask is sorta them trying to fix themselves with an new identity.

[night ruin]

Cooking

[fresh spire]

i just did couriers rashier on my third attempt with no flea brew or silkspeed anklets

i am him

[umbral dagger]

pretty sure phantom IS they/them based off of needolin memories in the exhaust organ

[night ruin]

The phantom discourse yesterday was especially bad

[umbral dagger]

i could be misremembering

[mighty crest]

https://tenor.com/view/araquanid-pokemon-sun-and-moon-love-gif-13329624739414450196

[last dew]

not this again

[marsh spoke]

+3 people in my blocklist from that

[night ruin]

Little water baby

[marsh spoke]

genuine hell

[leaden delta]

god forbid people use they/them

[fallow frigate]

What happened

[night ruin]

God no kidding

[eternal berry]

why does this channel randomly burst into massive argument

[umbral dagger]

whatever it be they're ||dead as hell cuz i sliced their ass||

[bitter briar]

What

[last dew]

crine

[umbral dagger]

phantom

[bitter briar]

What’s the context

[eternal berry]

there was a whole fight involving transphobia and second sentinel or smth

[umbral dagger]

hornet has a penchant for murder

[night ruin]

Tldr this chat has had 0 days since someone said something transphobic for like 4 days now

[timber beacon]

Why does Phantom use they/them if they stabs them with an pin than slashing them that doesn't make any sense!

[fallow frigate]

😭

[bitter briar]

What why

[eternal berry]

new pronouns*
they 🗡️ them

[timber beacon]

oops accidental typo

[marsh spoke]

some people need to feed their ego thats why

[last dew]

because some horrid things were said about trans people actually the discussion lost it's plot on the ssentinel part and just spewed whatever

[dusky bobcat]

whoa whoa whoa. Offensive blue tools also includes sawtooth circlet.

[timber beacon]

They Parry Them!

[night ruin]

some idiot will mistake my story time for bringing the argument back up so thats all i will say

[umbral dagger]

i just processed your username and i'm both intrigued and extremely concerned

[fallow frigate]

Is that scylla from hades

[timber beacon]

But yeah i think Phantom's mask is just them trying to fix themselves with an new identity.

[marsh spoke]

There was a second sentinel part of the discussion?

Or was it like a different argument altogether

[bitter briar]

Phantom is pretty phantom

[last dew]

different one

[umbral dagger]

yes

[night ruin]

Different i think

[eternal berry]

apparently it was about whether or not second sentinel could be trans i think idk

[last dew]

like legit a day before phantom discourse lol

[marsh spoke]

When did it happen im low-key intrigued

Huh

[night ruin]

No it was whether second sentinel could have gender at all

[bitter briar]

Second sentinels pronouns are clank/er

[slate python]

Phantom is such a peculiar gent

[eternal berry]

oh ok

[timber beacon]

also phantom attacks hornet because she is an weaver.

[last dew]

ehhhhhhhhhhhh

[eternal berry]

can team cherry just make everyone identify as "bug thing"

[last dew]

not exclusively

[quartz gulch]

God is this shit. Of course people take the weaver one if that's the case.
I would adjust the numbers to:
Architect: 14 (per projectile)
Forge Daughter: 35
Weaver: 33 (1 damage drop off per enemy/shield/parry pierced )

How about this?

[eternal berry]

would stop a lot of arguments later on

[umbral dagger]

is second sentinel act 3

[bitter briar]

Can be

[night ruin]

I she/her-d second sentinel and some people were like "robots cant have gender because i said so"

[exotic cedar]

2

[umbral dagger]

i have NOT encountered this character a single time

[last dew]

wouldn't actually which is intriguing

[bitter briar]

Well it’s not confirmed

[slate python]

Robots most definelty can have gender

[fresh spire]

nah its because hes BROKE and is tryna rob hornet for money

[umbral dagger]

is it the cogwork heart creature that's protecting songclave

[exotic cedar]

I'm not gonna lie they are kinda hard to find

[last dew]

whooo caresssz burps

[leaden delta]

oh thats dumb

[quartz gulch]

That would be broken with poison. It'll be the equivalent of saying any needle attack should be buffed because you have heavy belt equipped.

[exotic cedar]

Yes

[umbral dagger]

ohhhhhh

oh they're chill

[last dew]

if i want second sentinel to be a beautiful they/them transfem lesbian so be it

[night ruin]

Its not, but i didnt think someone would split hairs over it regardless

[bitter briar]

I think second sentinel can be interpreted as any

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/second-sentinel-good-morning-gif-17436084547726321203

[last dew]

and thats exactly what we are doing

[umbral dagger]

is there supposed to be a boss fight with second sentinel because i haven't seen them in a hot minute

[leaden delta]

i keep it/they because that's what the game says and i like it when there's enbies and it pisses people off but

[fallow frigate]

Until anything is confirmed everything is a head cannon

[eternal berry]

apparently so

[marsh spoke]

Should be fine ill have to think about it more

Might make a txt file or doc about my thoughts on tools

[bitter briar]

Yes there is it’s just lace but better ig

[verbal steeple]

hornet can make electricity be poisonous

[umbral dagger]

well i'm not gonna go look for that cuz i only have 4 crests and i desperately want more options

[exotic cedar]

Yep. Check the wishwall in songclave after seeing them 2 times

[verbal steeple]

are we gonna question that

[umbral dagger]

i have seen once

[eternal berry]

no

[bitter briar]

No

[night ruin]

Its almost like any sentient creature capable of forming a sense of self can have gender. What a concept!

[marsh spoke]

Anyway @native canyon @rich herald You fuckers were arguing without me at 6am fuck you guys for not telling me

[eternal berry]

shr can make a literal railgun from a broken tool

[quartz gulch]

Depends if we gender the silkfly inside, since there is speculation the sentinels were made with pintress silkflies. And all pintresses we know of are female. Or it's just a robot.

[slate python]

Ikr?

[umbral dagger]

i assume i just have to roam the choral chambers for a while to see them again

[verbal steeple]

that's plasuible to an extent

[umbral dagger]

but i dont want to do that soooooo

[bitter briar]

Friend inside me

[umbral dagger]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[verbal steeple]

but making ELECTRICITY poisonous is CRAZY

[quartz gulch]

True, I should copy paste everything into a word document.

[earnest drift]

actually she can’t, she can only poison the stake or orbs holding the electricity

[night ruin]

It does not depend on the gender of the silkfly. Second sentinel is a character unto herself.

[verbal steeple]

boring

[fallow frigate]

Phantom’s fight was fun

[eternal berry]

this is like saying a hamster wheel is male because the hamster running inside is male

[night ruin]

Thats like saying Korra must share the same gender as Aang since they share the same spirit.

[bitter briar]

Silkflys are flies made of silk, it’s safe to say they’re genderless

[umbral dagger]

i assume the architect's key leads to the architect's crest so i'm just gonna roam the underworks until i find that cuz i vaguely recall something relating to the architects in there

[quartz gulch]

Whatever you say.
I find it quite funny though that the twelth architect (run by a silkfly) puts other silkflies into other robots.

[eternal berry]

tenderless

[last dew]

yes

[umbral dagger]

(this is a question because i js wanna know if i'm on the right path)

[bitter briar]

Silk tenders

[umbral dagger]

oh ok ty

[verbal steeple]

there's an architect door near the 12th architect

[bitter briar]

What would silk tenders taste like

[fallow frigate]

Like silk

[eternal berry]

spider

[verbal steeple]

requires the architect key bought from the 12th architect

[quartz gulch]

Does the hamster wheel somewhat live?

[night ruin]

Probably like a pillowcase

[bitter briar]

What if u added stuff to it

[last dew]

i imagine slightly bitter but also somewhat tasteless
texture of a cotton candy

[bitter briar]

Like masala

[umbral dagger]

OHHHHHHH YEAH THAT PLACE

[eternal berry]

it could be generating electricity

[umbral dagger]

my dumbass was going to just roam around the entire underworks area in search of the door 😭

[timber beacon]

also can i share another cent towards phantom rq?

[icy crow]

Finished Wisp Thicket. Enough Silksong today

[marsh spoke]

silkflies and automatons seem to be very very seperate in personality from each other so like i dont think silkfly gender necessarily aligns with the cogworks gender

[bitter briar]

Well phantoms broke so sure

[umbral dagger]

also what's the consensus on coral tower because i think it's awesome

[timber beacon]

I think Phantom attacked due to pure aggression than an sparing combat.

due to Hornet being an weaver.

[rocky jolt]

https://youtu.be/T8YhjSjsmBg?si=Vvn2kjU2U88EqS8r sorry but this is the best ost in the game

[marsh spoke]

no its a duel to the death cause phantom wants to die

[fresh spire]

cant say havent made it there yet im still working through the game on my first playthrough

[timber beacon]

could it be both?

[bitter briar]

Phantom is suicidal confirmed

[last dew]

well yes

[marsh spoke]

it isnt cause hornet is a weaver its cause hornet is a warrior and phantom wants to die in a blaze of glory rather than fade away

[fresh spire]

and for those wondering where im at ||i have 2 of the 3 endings pretty sure ive set in motion the thing i need for the third||

[void moat]

i love it

[fallow frigate]

Wasn’t it stated somewhere that phantom wanted to die in decisive combat

[timber beacon]

it could be both.

[void moat]

her journal entry

[marsh spoke]

I do not think its both

There is no indication of them attacking hornet for being a weaver

[timber beacon]

Phantom started aggression towards an death duel to decide both fates
They wanted Hornet dead or themselves dead.

[main summit]

Hey what are the best mods for hollow knight

[night ruin]

The journal entries are so iffy for me. It was much better when it was written from the pov of a non player chatracter

[main summit]

Not silksong.

[last dew]

but not exclusively because hornet is a weaver

[exotic cedar]

Well in phantom's needolin dialouge they say "Free me"

[marsh spoke]

eh the journals in general are quite strange

[fresh spire]

bro i went to bellhart to upgrade my needle and then forgot about it and insted transported supplies to bonebottom 😭

[bitter briar]

Side quest

[marsh spoke]

i think theyd have better off been as like completely neutral text not from anyone

[night ruin]

Theres information in silksong's journals that i struggle to believe hornet would even be aware of

[main summit]

Bro

[bitter briar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1459000335615135744/image0.gif

[steep jolt]

didnt understand the bilewater hate until i went there myself

[exotic cedar]

Bro what

[marsh spoke]

<@&283547423706447872> racial slur bypass

[fallow frigate]

Literally

[verbal steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[night ruin]

Rec room user checks out

[marsh spoke]

yuh

[timber beacon]

I just think Phantom's aggression comes from hate for the first sinner.

[marsh spoke]

Id rather it just be from a third person pov really

[main summit]

Get the bench

[marsh spoke]

whar

[fresh spire]

bilewater runback is wild

[steep jolt]

yea, the "bench"

[marsh spoke]

i do not think they know each other

[bitter briar]

What r these theories

[main summit]

Not that one

[timber beacon]

oh ok

i think i am just illiterate

[main summit]

The one below where your silk is

[fresh spire]

450 for the upgrade oh thank god i had 500

[steep jolt]

they fool you by putting a bench half way thru that juust breaks when you sit on it

[fresh spire]

theres the secret bench tho

[exotic cedar]

Hit the walls

[quartz gulch]

And I loved every second of it!

[timber beacon]

though i am full confident on the Phantom Cope Identity theory

[exotic cedar]

Speak to the walls

[bitter briar]

The what

[night ruin]

Ideally id have preferred hunters journal entries came from Nuu or some other sort of third party. Perhaps the completed versions can still offer personal insights from hornet.

[main summit]

Yeah go right of the silk

[steep jolt]

here???

[marsh spoke]

Yeah

[main summit]

Yes

[timber beacon]

my theory for Phantom's mask being an cope for losing their identity since exciled

[steep jolt]

i was so close...

[main summit]

Very

[fallow frigate]

Saving this btw thank you

[bitter briar]

I thought it was just another phantom of the opera reference

[past basalt]

wait why?

[main summit]

Anyways what are good mods for hollow knight. Not silksong.

[bitter briar]

Tc loves those

[timber beacon]

could be

[past basalt]

randomizer

[exotic cedar]

Nuu journal entry note would be interesting

[main summit]

Already have it

[marsh spoke]

i mean the whole thing is an allusion to phantom of the opera

[main summit]

I have all of them

[normal widget]

Hi guys, two Silksong tracks just got used in some Belgian tv show!!!!! TWICE 😍 😍

[delicate ice]

Thet wouldnt be nearly ad cool as what we got

[past basalt]

pantheon of nightmares

[bitter briar]

Nuu would just talk about how yummy the monsters are

[earnest drift]

a mod that added playable hornet would be good

[quartz gulch]

I think they wear the mask because their actual face already faded away. A face is a mask in Hollow Knight. So essentially that mask is her entire identity left of her.

[main summit]

Can't even beat p3😭💔

[night ruin]

Because some of the notes are not only just kind of bad, but many of them deliver information that we just cant reasonably expect hornet to have known.

[marsh spoke]

child born imperfect cast out by their mother and hides their face in shame and spite

[quartz gulch]

Saw someone on reddit working on it.

[main summit]

I beat both savage beastflies first try but can't even beat sly

[eternal berry]

IS THAT THE GROAL RUNBACK

[vital root]

brings back memories

[delicate ice]

Wouldnt work. Hornet is to large to priperly traverse the map. Its why they couldnt make silksong a dlc

[past basalt]

can you provide examples

[marsh spoke]

mod sounds peak but youre genuinely forced to use cross stitch 🥀

[timber beacon]

Or someone else's identity for their taking as a settle themselves to say
"I've lost my self and mind,but i'll take form of another to cope."

[earnest drift]

fun fact: hornet and lace never refer to each other by their real names

[quartz gulch]

Which ones do you mean specifically? Please don't send slabfly stuff, that I already know the opinions on.

[past basalt]

and the knight doesnt fit in pharloom yet a mod still exists

[main summit]

How would that work?

[earnest drift]

they gave them all upgrades at the start

[delicate ice]

Except they do???,
Because theyre smaller????

[quartz gulch]

Modding?

[marsh spoke]

for te and godhome at least

[main summit]

No shit😭💔

[fresh spire]

should i do the final boss for the third ending i think ive done all the stuff i need to

[past basalt]

they are too small to properly traverse the map

[marsh spoke]

since multiple bosses have shade cloak checks

[earnest drift]

yeah but their movement sucks so they had to give them every upgrade at the start and ability to switch between knight and hornet

[quartz gulch]

Dude you just asked the question!?

[bitter briar]

Knight in pharloom is op against bosses

[main summit]

I mean like I understand the knight in silksong but not hornet in hollow knight

[verbal steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e88caZ9dmOQ&list=WL&index=3&t=101s

[main summit]

That's not what I asked

[earnest drift]

have you played it

[cursive pagoda]

skong

[bitter briar]

I’ve seen it

[verbal steeple]

this lowkey dope

[fallow frigate]

Wouldn’t it just be the earlier ones

[earnest drift]

I really doubt playing as the knight in silksong makes it easier

[marsh spoke]

it does

[main summit]

Nobody answered my question 😔💔

[quartz gulch]

Much, much faster, higher dps, tools etc.
Hornet is weaker in defense but far stronger in the aspect of dealing damage.

[marsh spoke]

charms and spells are both broken as shit lol

[fresh spire]

||should i beat up a grandma for the third ending involving the caretaker thing||

[quartz gulch]

I just did.

[past basalt]

no. the health of pharloom enemies is less than hk. the knight has much higher dps

[marsh spoke]

also shade cloak

[earnest drift]

they take the same dmg in the mod

[void moat]

Yes

[exotic cedar]

Well, if you want to

[main summit]

@quartz gulch

[quartz gulch]

Nope. There are just pro-players that make them out to be.

[fallow frigate]

Oh shade cloak how i miss you

[bitter briar]

If u get the meta hk build its op

[past basalt]

why karak

[marsh spoke]

whar?

[void moat]

it’s the best area in silksong

[earnest drift]

even in the endgame?

[marsh spoke]

tk gets 120 nail dps without needing to do anything

Literally just str+qs

[fallow frigate]

Do you like the green prince

[void moat]

he’s cool

[earnest drift]

Hornet beats this with flintslate, focus, barbed bracelet and flea brew

[fallow frigate]

Have this

[bitter briar]

As cool as karak?

[timber beacon]

i think hornet would erase hk:vh's bosses with silksong toolset

[void moat]

tubular

[marsh spoke]

I don't think she does let me check

[past basalt]

i mean. the only way to nail build is to be at 1hp so that doesnt really work for most people. so spell builds are op for most

[void moat]

nah but he’s cool

[main summit]

Clawline solos every boss in hollow knight btw

[bitter briar]

Nice

[marsh spoke]

flea brew puts it barely above

[bitter briar]

Nkg:

[earnest drift]

is flea brew a 1.15 multiplier

[quartz gulch]

Hornet has less i-frames, no shade cloak and no DD. The only i-frames she can get consistently are through sharp dart and cross-stitch. Otherwise there are also the options of clawline, witch pogo and beast pogo, but generally Hornet has to dodge through movement alone.

[main summit]

Nobody likes grimm so it doesn't count

[marsh spoke]

Without flea brew its like right below

[marsh spoke]

not sure flea brew is strange as shit

But like the knight is absolutely a dps monster

[rich herald]

wuh

[verbal steeple]

i'm pretty sure flea brew does different speeds depending on the crest

[rich herald]

What were we arguing about i forgor

[verbal steeple]

i think with reaper and wanderer its a 35% attack speed increase

[marsh spoke]

Second sentinet

[eternal berry]

wait qhat

[past basalt]

no... different crests do different speeds naturally and flea brew is a % buff

[main summit]

What about flea brew + pollip pouch

[verbal steeple]

no i'm pretty sure flea brew itself does different speeds depending on the crest. i saw someone talk on it i'm pretty sure

[bitter briar]

Pollip mentioned ur automatically wrong

[eternal berry]

wanderer is literally quickslash wdym flea brew upps it by 35%

[rich herald]

What about second senti

[marsh spoke]

The real answer is that its supposed to be a 50% speed buff but its fucking spaghetti code bullshit

[quartz gulch]

But really, it is all about balance. Full spell builds don't have dreamwielder or nailmasters glory, which are pretty strong against many bosses. Going full nail or full spell isn't a good idea for most decent/average/good players.

[marsh spoke]

Gender

[main summit]

It gives flea brew a buff btw

[bitter briar]

Nah but it sucks

[rich herald]

Oh That argument

[exotic cedar]

Isnt flea brew bad

[rich herald]

[verbal steeple]

depending on the crest it can be decent

[main summit]

It's not that bad lmao

[timber beacon]

i think it's aight,the con is just the stupid annoying refill

[quartz gulch]

Hornet has shorter range but higher dps most of the time.

[rich herald]

I wasnt really apart of it

[bitter briar]

It literally is

[verbal steeple]

with reaper it's pretty solid. it makes it as fast as wanderer

[bitter briar]

One tick of damage that doesn’t stack every second

[main summit]

You probably use shaman crest

[quartz gulch]

Wait, does it not also get the plasmium treatment?

[bitter briar]

Why

[timber beacon]

no

[marsh spoke]

nope

[verbal steeple]

the refill is free in act 3

but like u still need to go to the flea festival.

[bitter briar]

Pollip just sucks

[quartz gulch]

FUCK

[verbal steeple]

altho u literally have 30 uses in store so like.

[bitter briar]

Atp just don’t use it

[timber beacon]

hot take i think flea brew should get the plasmium treatment when you get all fleas

[verbal steeple]

true

[eternal berry]

guys fractured mask is a bad item change my mind

[quartz gulch]

That runback is the worst in the entire game.

[main summit]

We should have better yellow tools

[eternal berry]

(this is a joke dont kill me)

[exotic cedar]

Its decent

[verbal steeple]

too late. look outside your walls

[fresh spire]

okay i beat ||grandma for the third ending bro that was easy as hell after twisted child||

[quartz gulch]

Who the fuck think that is a hot take?

[main summit]

The only good ones are barbed bracelet, the cling grip one, and compass

[exotic cedar]

I loove sawtooth and snitch pick

[lusty grove]

you know what would be cool?

[coarse leaf]

you havent done steel soul

[eternal berry]

i said its a joke

[verbal steeple]

magnetite dicececececececececececececece

[eternal berry]

what about carefree rng

[marsh spoke]

its pretty mid

[past basalt]

nah im good. your right

[main summit]

Oh yeah I forgot

[lusty grove]

an enemy gaunglet rush

[main summit]

I'm dumb

[lusty grove]

like a boss rush, but with gaunglets

[quartz gulch]

If silksong players knew to think of how tools and crests could be improved, instead of bashing eachothers favourite ones? Yeah, that'd be nice.

[verbal steeple]

compass should be a blue tool it's too OP tbh tbh

[eternal berry]

id rather fight absrad all bindings nohit

[main summit]

No more blue tools pls

[rich herald]

fractured mask is good on steel soul but outside of that booooringgggg

[main summit]

Plus yellow tools are for wandering

[lusty grove]

damn
it wouldn't even be THAT hard

[marsh spoke]

improve wanderer by removing the crit and adding turnarounds+better gimmick. Also better nart

[eternal berry]

wanderers crest should be replaced with all yellow tools

[main summit]

That would make wanderer the worst crest

[exotic cedar]

Better sprint attack too pls

[marsh spoke]

Yeag

[verbal steeple]

wanderer should have the normal nail art in the original HK

[lusty grove]

removing the crit removes Wanderer's entire shtick

[exotic cedar]

Wanderer sprint attack disgusts me

[verbal steeple]

the big slash one

[quartz gulch]

It is also a good last stand. Often enough you have to heal on one hp, but it is to risky to do so. Fractured mask at least gives you the chance. It also stops ALL damage before it breaks. So it can basically give you up to three extra health.

[rich herald]

wanderer nart should be dash slash

[timber beacon]

some witch crest elitist.

[rich herald]

and reaper nart should be great slash

[quartz gulch]

It should have dash slash if anything, since it would be the most usefull.

[lusty grove]

Cartographer's Crest
3 yellow tools, 1 silk skill, 3 locked yellow tools

[marsh spoke]

the crit is a shitty gimmick and should be replaced

[past basalt]

warding bell....

[coarse leaf]

magnetite dice also sleeper pick in steel soul

[verbal steeple]

nawr. reaper crest should be deleted fr fr

[quartz gulch]

The beast supremacists are far worse.

[stable oar]

i just beat lost lace is that the end

[verbal steeple]

beast crest needs like 8 more blue slots

[lusty grove]

dude just shut the fuck up

[past basalt]

no enemy deals 3 damage?

[exotic cedar]

Yes

[coarse leaf]

gg

[quartz gulch]

Only for the heal.

[timber beacon]

ehh they would agree with the flea brew change

[exotic cedar]

Gms, LJ and LL

[marsh spoke]

Oh yeah the reaper nail art is absolutely stupid it should have a better hitbox and damage multiplier

[rich herald]

yeah but if youre like Good at the game you dont need allat

[eternal berry]

found fabric boss when

[verbal steeple]

what does reaper nail art even do i forgor

[lusty grove]

Grand Mother Silk

[main summit]

Only architect crest deserves that

[eternal berry]

at the top of the symphony of pharloom

[stable oar]

fk yee. only 81% completion tho

[quartz gulch]

GMS and LL

[past basalt]

thats all 1 damage fractured wouldnt stop that

[timber beacon]

Why?

[lusty grove]

you hold X for a while and do a big attack that deals more damage

[coarse leaf]

youll get it gg

[quartz gulch]

Shut up if you don't know shit dude.

[main summit]

It's a skill less piece of shit with the worst users

[exotic cedar]

You may hate architect but do not hate needletect

[eternal berry]

wanderer

[stable oar]

where do i go from here tho?

[past basalt]

its like a vertical "down pogo" sized attack

[lusty grove]

GMS's 3 mask attack is blocked by Fractured Mask
source: me. I got hit by it

[rich herald]

Even in steel soul 100% where i refused to benchwarp i only found myself actually putting fractured mask to use during hhg (did it slightly undergeared) and both trobbios

[exotic cedar]

Anything but reaper

[eternal berry]

recreates hollow knight

[verbal steeple]

it's literally "whatevers good for you" lmao. if u ask anyone what crest to use they'll just tell you their favorite one

[coarse leaf]

There's just some nasty combos or sequences of damage you can be knocked into, and it protects you from that, where you're otherwise just dead

[eternal berry]

precisely

[timber beacon]

That's just the piss annoying elitists than the crest itself
the crest itself has no problems

[verbal steeple]

architect is good

[exotic cedar]

Beast is good for facetanks
Hunter is good for general + very good if you don't get hit
Witch is good if you master it

[main summit]

Any good mods?

[lusty grove]

also enemies like the Minister and the Roach Feeder do 3 damage with one of their attacks

[main summit]

Yeah but the crest still sucks

[exotic cedar]

Enemy rando

[quartz gulch]

"If you are good at the game, you don't even have to heal. All healing items, protection items, punisher items are f tier"—some dudes logic.

[marsh spoke]

what crest are we screaming about atm

[past basalt]

since when did it do that. ive had full conversations about this before. huh.

[rich herald]

if youve played alot of hk wanderer
otherwise hunter or architect

[verbal steeple]

then expermint with the ones u already have

[main summit]

Yes and no

[timber beacon]

why?

[verbal steeple]

shaman unlocked in act 3 so u can't use it in the middle of act 2

[rich herald]

Don’t know where I said that but sure

[main summit]

Bad needle and too many red tools

[marsh spoke]

hollllyyyyyyy i cant see what crest we're screaming about there's blocked messages in this channellllllll

[eternal berry]

ngl what if you just got the crests when you came across their chapels and didn't switch ever

[marsh spoke]

help me.....

[rich herald]

I find no utility for fractured mask because i just don’t get to a point where i need it

[eternal berry]

so basically you force yourself to use all of them

[rich herald]

Idk either im not reading

yeah its just broken

[main summit]

Any good mods I should download??

[marsh spoke]

Hates me

[exotic cedar]

Pretty strong, it needs so much shards tho

[eternal berry]

shush

[quartz gulch]

You don't need that if you are good at the game = Since you can hypothetically dodge everything, you shouldn't even need healing items and the like

[coarse leaf]

if I have fast bind then I'm ok with no fractured mask in a boss fight. Arena, not so much

[lusty grove]

man Beast would be great if it had 2 yellow tools and 2 blue tools and 2 red tools and Reaper's attack shapes and Reaper's bind and was Reaper

[timber beacon]

the needle is fairly good and the red tools is it's point!

[stable oar]

i beat lost lace but im still somehow missing a silk skill

[main summit]

This is the fourth fucking time I've asked

[eternal berry]

is it cross stitch