sk-discussion

[rotund stag]

❕❕❕Contemplate the absurdity of this situation❕❕❕

[timber beacon]

Hunter's journal hornet entry idea for prime phantom.

"I feel an distant memory of the guardian of hallownest,at it's prime and at it's hollow. I feel just shame for them."

[rotund stag]

what flesh prison would Phantom be put in?

[earnest drift]

it's reserved for lace 4

[timber beacon]

Could be a simple reference!
@last dew

[rotund stag]

if Lace gets another fight i'm pulling up with my remington

[earnest drift]

don't worry she won't get another fight

she'll get at least three

[lusty grove]

Found Lace

[rotund stag]

yeah because i killed her

[earnest drift]

where was she

[daring kraken]

She in sea of sorrows

[icy crow]

This room looks cool

[earnest drift]

her plot armour is impenetrable actually

[silver topaz]

The boys at the nypd choir were singing galway bay

[icy crow]

Anyways. Got all the stuff I missed in my base game file

[earnest drift]

the chance of cogwork clapper appearing in godhome is slim not but 0

[rotund stag]

fair, but she doesen't have pot armor, so go tungsten pot

[lusty grove]

if we get a Phanteon dlc, Lace will get at least 2 new fights per fight she already has, which is 6

[icy crow]

Bro thinks he's part of the team

[lusty grove]

9 Laces

[earnest drift]

final pantheon boss is fighting all of them at once

[rotund stag]

Pantheon of Lace

[silver topaz]

7 laces, all different colours like the undertale souls

[icy crow]

I'll keep the Pristine Core from Twelfth Architect as a memento

[strange knot]

She will not get 2 fights. 1 at last

[last dew]

prime phantom as a vessel-echo from hallownest's golden age?

[lusty grove]

"NO!!!! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GUARD THE CRADLE!!!!"
The seven human Laces:

[lusty grove]

one Ascended and one Radiant

[strange knot]

Oh.

[lean pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1tqNxHO3fjs

[silver topaz]

And the secret yuri one where they have hot eye contact

[rotund stag]

Reace, Pueace, Yeace, Greace, Blace, Cyace, Orace

[strange knot]

I thought you were talking about real other fights. Than it’s like 6 new fights it you count those

[lusty grove]

Babagundala you can't say that

[silver topaz]

Oh sorry

[lusty grove]

yeah that's what I said

[silver topaz]

What part

[icy crow]

There should be a sky themed area in that empty spot lowk

[rotund stag]

hmmm i wonder wich one

[lusty grove]

the last one
no NSFW

[rotund stag]

Hornet becomes a skylander

[silver topaz]

Better?

[chrome granite]

More of the surface?
actually seeing the moon and sun I think.

[icy crow]

Hornet finally learns shinespark 🙏

[strange knot]

Sky themed area would be cool asf

[icy crow]

https://tenor.com/view/super-metroid-animals-dachora-ostrich-super-speed-gif-6698931857158728183

[lusty grove]

Silksong dlc Threaded Skies

[last dew]

these parts of any map pisses me off so bad

[lusty grove]

...I'll allow it

[icy crow]

Sea of Sorrow will have new areas so some spots might be taken over

[silver topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-suck-cat-kitty-holy-moly-gif-11889880218065052268

[last dew]

i hope

[icy crow]

Not an actual sky but an area high enough to have fog and all that

[rotund stag]

Hornet stares at the eclipse and turns to ash

[last dew]

tc please triple silksong's map size

[rotund stag]

tc please don't do that

[icy crow]

Is the map of Ori 2 larger than Silksong horizontally or what

[silver topaz]

They should add fast travel

[lusty grove]

new bosses: Groal the Greater, Lace 4, and Savage Beastfly yet again

[icy crow]

Act three already does that

[rotund stag]

uhh

[timber beacon]

as an reminder of distant siblings

also Nuu being a child theory is kinda proven wrong when you take their introduction dialogue in greymoor

[earnest drift]

wait why

[lusty grove]

meanwhile Bell Beast and the Ventrica Stations:

[timber beacon]

Asking hornet if she is an adult

[rotund stag]

https://tenor.com/view/the-judge-judge-off-off-rpg-the-judge-off-gif-14551560222494666903

[silver topaz]

What are you talking about? The dlc isn’t even out yet

[icy crow]

Rate my bellhome

[earnest drift]

why does that mean nuu is not a child

[lusty grove]

Bell Beast and the Ventrica Stations are fast travel methods

[last dew]

i miss zacharie like a mf

[lusty grove]

very bellhome-ish

[icy crow]

Act three gives you a Needolin song that summons Beastlings which take you back to the station where Bell Beast is at

[last dew]

where my 👀 off buddy

[ancient mortar]

The disembodied hearts of 2 gay men on the shelf is a little grisly, otherwise pretty nice.

[lusty grove]

also I accidentally put the Materium on the floor, can I take it out later to put smth else?

[silver topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/birb-weird-egg-glasses-face-gif-2844273062192399129

[rotund stag]

https://tenor.com/view/who-is-we-spoonmadethis-we-me-us-gif-5237515834956269985

[timber beacon]

Nuu calling Hornet grown up is intrepretated as Nuu calling her old in an child-like manner when it's like Nuu's reminder that Hornet is grown up due to her looking similar to an young styx

[icy crow]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-wait-gif-16738817422562026279

[last dew]

is that you

[rotund stag]

bruh what is Japhet doing🤣✌️

[silver topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/umiri-yahata-bang-dream-bandori-ave-mujica-gif-440923077344620168

[lusty grove]

what is this game even about

[silver topaz]

Bug yuri

[ancient mortar]

Hornet also straight up refers to nuu as child

[timber beacon]

Hornet size and looks feels similar to styx specially when she is half weaver half wyrm so hard to see her as a proper weaver

[ancient mortar]

What does nuu have to do with styx, they havent even met

[void moat]

nah, bug yaoi solos

[timber beacon]

could be like how shakra calls hornet child-wielding-needle perhaps but it's all foggy

[silver topaz]

How does styx make the silk larvae?

[void moat]

he breeds silkeaters

[last dew]

i mean doesn't shakra say that about hornet too?

[night ruin]

Poop

[timber beacon]

in terms of similar looks

[ancient mortar]

Shakras explicitly corrected by hornet

[silver topaz]

Can’t he just grow one really big one and then butcher it and freeze all the meat?

[fiery burrow]

Nuu emphasizing that Hornet is an adult makes it more likely that she's a child

[last dew]

pondering

[earnest drift]

i'm so confused what

[ancient mortar]

also hornet calls her child

[marsh spoke]

his eggs

[fiery burrow]

Didn't know that

[timber beacon]

you know that quest where you gather organs for huntress' kin

[ancient mortar]

its only once, if you talk to her again after refusing her quest.

[earnest drift]

yes

[timber beacon]

i've been confusing huntress' kin with styx fuck

[night ruin]

Given Silksong has heavy theming around childhood and motherhood it would make sense that Nuu is a kid

[lusty grove]

they should add an area here, like a Prime Bilewater or smth

[earnest drift]

runt is a child

[fiery burrow]

Y'all thought lacenet defenders are bad have you ever engaged with nuunet defenders 🥀

[ancient mortar]

Are you talking about runt?? hornet looks nothing like runt

[void moat]

does he know?

[marsh spoke]

runt is an abortion victim

[earnest drift]

hornet and lace are both in weird grey areas

[icy crow]

Pharloom Bay:

[lusty grove]

?

[timber beacon]

similar,not the same

[lusty grove]

did I miss smth?

[night ruin]

Failed self abortion

[icy crow]

Sea of Sorrow will bring the scrapped Pharloom Bay which is exactly spotted in that part

[lusty grove]

oh

[icy crow]

Not known where the other new areas will be though

[lusty grove]

well, I still think they should add Prime Bilewater

like Groal's memories or smth

[marsh spoke]

If you do broodfeast in act 2 runt canonically gets aborted. What a beautiful pro life message #StopKillingBabies #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

[icy crow]

Groal was eaten by Muckmaggots

[night ruin]

Gay bilewater

[lusty grove]

and then you fight Groal the Greater

[earnest drift]

what why

[marsh spoke]

It was revealed to me in a dream a few weeks ago

[lusty grove]

???

[icy crow]

Time to continue Mario Odyssey post-game

[rigid phoenix]

HOLD ON SHERMA IS A GUY?

[timber beacon]

Ok so people are confused and i will clarify

[earnest drift]

yes

[lusty grove]

yup

[rigid phoenix]

HOW

[night ruin]

Just a lil dude

[fiery burrow]

man I oughta replay odyssey

[earnest drift]

what's wrong with a man being short, sweet and needing help

[rigid phoenix]

I just got spoiled about him aswell 😭

[night ruin]

lol are people expecting sherma to have a six pack and facial hair

[timber beacon]

I think Nuu calls Hornet miss grown up due to reminding themself that Hornet is a grown up due to her similarities to runt's size thinking she is an younger form of an huntress-like species

[rigid phoenix]

He sound like a fairy from disney

[fiery burrow]

I got spoiled about his death a day after release 😔

[lusty grove]

an area here would be cool too, like the source of the heat or smth like that

[earnest drift]

sorry folks it's a feminism oriented game

[rigid phoenix]

Gotta stop asking tips for tiktok 😞

[marsh spoke]

He's probably a 40 year old unemployed 4chan incel. God I hate sherma so fucking much

[misty storm]

Next dlc after SoS?

[rigid phoenix]

He just sounds like an adorable fairy

[lusty grove]

fym how??? he's a guy

[rigid phoenix]

We got it bro ok i understand

[rocky jolt]

super original name: deeper docks

[fiery burrow]

sherma has a feminine voice gng why are we reading into this so much 🥀

[night ruin]

Speaking of, isn’t puck from berserk a guy too

[fiery burrow]

Its not even that uncommon to mistake him for a girl

[night ruin]

I don’t know his name I didn’t read that far

[lusty grove]

Flames of Fury

[earnest drift]

i think she's ensuring that hornet is an adult because hornet looks very young for her age

[rigid phoenix]

I watched berserk s1 but dont remember that

[icy crow]

I'm going to start 100%'ing Sand Kingdom while trying to get the most coins possible since clothes are required for 100% unfortunately

[void moat]

nuu might be THE most obvious child character ever

[icy crow]

Why the fuck does a skeleton suit cost 9999 coins

[marsh spoke]

Hornet is a child though?

[fiery burrow]

ooh youre going for 100%

[rigid phoenix]

Is it in the manga cause once i saw the eclipse i gave up cause i learned that the author died and guts aint close to Griffith either

[fiery burrow]

good luck

[icy crow]

Yeah lmao

[lusty grove]

it'd be cool to see what's in here too

[earnest drift]

not mentally

[timber beacon]

Exactly my point,just pin pointed that through runt's design being similar to hornet's height

[fiery burrow]

Sand Kingdom is one of my favorites

[rigid phoenix]

Oh no she is old

[marsh spoke]

She acts pretty recklessly I would say she is a child mentally too

[lusty grove]

and chronologically

[icy crow]

Post-game is pretty much given away moons and then a billion coin farming for all the rest

[timber beacon]

she is an grandma at this point

[night ruin]

Is she tho

[marsh spoke]

Yeah

[icy crow]

Not one of the best post-games from 3D Mario games but I'll just accept it as it is

[lusty grove]

she speaks in long words

[rigid phoenix]

Understatement

[fiery burrow]

I remember farming that one random cloud level in bowsers kingdom for coins a few years ago

[icy crow]

Should've done it like Galaxy though

[lusty grove]

Hornet is as much of a child as Elderbug

[timber beacon]

frieren levels of age?

[rigid phoenix]

Also why hollow knight in general speaks such sophisticated premium english

[rigid phoenix]

Type shit

[timber beacon]

shit

[night ruin]

Hornet herself has said to have mates. Ones she has outlived no less. Not exactly childlike activity

[void moat]

that’s just how tc prefers to portray their dialogue

[icy crow]

I haven't stepped back in Bowser's Kingdom yet but I'll assume that's a sub-area from a Moon Rock

Wooded Kingdom also has a short sub-area with plenty of coins

[earnest drift]

ehh kind of? but it doesn't really feel like child levels of recklessness
just regular adult with underlying trauma and violence issues

[rigid phoenix]

Sometimes cant even understand what they say yj

[fiery burrow]

Best mario postgame was maybe 3D World?

[timber beacon]

scary thought but i think might be little homophobes around the world of hollow knight at this point

[night ruin]

Wat

[fiery burrow]

Idr remember galaxy though

[tranquil yoke]

just like nuu

[icy crow]

I haven't played 3D World yet but I'm aiming to eventually, but I heard it's also shit to 100% lol

[rigid phoenix]

Btw i have a question..what happend to hallownest and how did hornet get captuetd in the first place

[icy crow]

Character unique stamps and all that

[lusty grove]

I'm looking for empty places on the map to put cool areas on, and this one is begging to be filled

[earnest drift]

she's not a child, she's physically a young adult

[fiery burrow]

I had a fun time 100%ing 3D world its levels are all pretty short and its not too hard to find their secrets

[night ruin]

We don’t know, and citadel bugs came and got her

[timber beacon]

Hornet mated with bugs,Possibly bred with,at silksong there are likely Hornet's kin around the hollow knight world that we might not know of and possibly homophobic

[marsh spoke]

Now we sit back and observe hornet age discourse

[rigid phoenix]

How did hornet FORGET her skills such as dash clawline and all the other things

[icy crow]

As long as I don't mess up when I get to play it lol

[fiery burrow]

Also 3D world packs like a ridiculous amount of new concepts for each level its kinda crazy

[rigid phoenix]

How weak can one be 😭

[night ruin]

More or less what I’m saying

[earnest drift]

but she gets called a child a lot
maybe it's because child can mean young adult in hk? idk

[void moat]

i think she’s a child and if you disagree with me ill insult you and question your media literacy and say you need to read between the lines without directly responding to your arguments

[night ruin]

We know she took down a few waves of bugs but evidently they just wore her down

[icy crow]

Might get to play it after Odyssey but there's also the Mario RPG remake I want to check out

[tranquil yoke]

3d world is one of my favorites, probably the most replayable

[rigid phoenix]

Why do u wanna insult ppl for their opinion 🥀

[last dew]

who is this aboyt

[fiery burrow]

I need to paly Mario RPG as well

[rigid phoenix]

Howd she forget every skill she had tho

[fiery burrow]

Tied with Galaxy and Odyssey for me

[night ruin]

Video game

[icy crow]

I'm already thinking 100%'ing will be a not so fun experience considering Star Egg exists

[rigid phoenix]

Like knight just didnt have them in the first place but she yea she dont got no excuse

[icy crow]

I did 100% the original SNES version and god Star Egg took me like three hours

[lusty grove]

cuz she looks young, and everyone in this game is fucking ancient, so when they see a young looking bug, they think "this bug is young, and I'm probably older than their grandparents, so I'll call them a child" cuz there's no way for them to know that Hornet is older than them

[night ruin]

Hornet doesn’t really have nearly the amount of power at the end of hollow knight that she gains by the end of Silksong.

[earnest drift]

but even shakra does it

[timber beacon]

interresting discussions going on at #sk-discussion

[rigid phoenix]

Also can someone spoil the ending for me why does the knight take over pharloom like that since we know he is the shade lord

[rigid phoenix]

Valid

[lusty grove]

Hornet is small and young-looking

[fiery burrow]

In terms of replayability it maybe goes to odyssey because of the movement but 3D world's variety is a big deal too

[night ruin]

Petit

[misty storm]

I got guardian and hunter memento, also did the liquid lacquer, and I completed every piece of the materium, the psalm cylinders, and all the relics
It’s been a good day

[void moat]

weavers have trouble reproducing, i wouldnt be surprised if hornet shares the trait

[earnest drift]

she is confirmed to share that trait

[icy crow]

For me Galaxy 2 pulls up replayability by a fair mile with the Green Star challenges

The comets are pretty much the same though

[fiery burrow]

Hornet says she has trouble with that when talking to Eva

[rigid phoenix]

And i found out she doesnt say the lines she said in hk beacuse she "matured" does that mean she was spammming slurs in the first game while we fought her?

[night ruin]

We have reason to believe Hornet also struggles with making babies

[fiery burrow]

truee I forgot about g2

[lusty grove]

and you've also got the heart of a mourning man

[night ruin]

Which makes cursed child questline all the more evil

[icy crow]

I should probably 100% it again

[tranquil yoke]

man i gotta make a play as nuu mod

[fiery burrow]

Gotta bust out the Wii now smh

[last dew]

i like this perspective

[lusty grove]

Hornet calling the Knight the a word (aborted)

[icy crow]

I've noticed recently that a fully completed kingdom in Odyssey makes a glowing light show up around the cardinal rose of the globe

Pretty obscure detail but nice once you realize it

[lusty grove]

she doesn't have a parasite, she's just pregnant /j

[fiery burrow]

[night ruin]

It fits the themes of the game very well. In a sad way.

[night ruin]

Well that’s quite literally what’s happening if you read between the lines

[hollow abyss]

Biggest bs ever. I wish we have gotten more insects sluring

[icy crow]

Simple example

[rigid phoenix]

And getting her ass beat is crazy

[marsh spoke]

its basically confirmed, she also suffers from the infertility curse

[night ruin]

Greyroot more or less assaults and forcefully “impregnates” Hornet

[lusty grove]

except that the baby is an eldritch abomination that can and will kill her if it's born

[marsh spoke]

"basically" she literally says it dont mind my stupid ass wording

[icy crow]

I'll get a glass of water and start moving

[lusty grove]

damn, Greyroot is in the files

[rigid phoenix]

Yo tf is that bro did i just get spoiled?

[velvet cape]

Which is surprisingly common among bugs

[bronze spruce]

Younger hornet would've loved gorilla tag

[strange plume]

Guys I did it... I finished the abyss climb!

[lusty grove]

why are you here if you haven't finished the game?

[hollow abyss]

Why and how tf do u guys manage to even discuss that possibility

[strange plume]

But In mobile!

[night ruin]

Common among animals

[velvet cape]

And imo quite ironic since theres a hornet that does that to spiders

[fiery burrow]

This is spoiler territory yeah

[lusty grove]

but not between bugs and plants

[night ruin]

Are you surprised by what happens in the game? Idk what to tell you. I didn’t write that quest.

[velvet cape]

Tarantulas*

[bold notch]

i hate this beastfly 🫩

[rigid phoenix]

Are you going to tell me wether or not i can gain knowledge abt the game?

[fiery burrow]

#sk-help requires spoiler tagging messages but that's more help oriented

[bronze spruce]

Then don't fight it

[bold notch]

the healthbar moved

[lusty grove]

no, but if you're here you should be ready for spoilers

[bronze spruce]

What does this mean

[bold notch]

it can die

[hollow abyss]

Tought that u guys were talking abt hornet sx life. Not about the quest, the quest seems more like a parasite, not a impregnation

[bronze spruce]

Nice

[dusky bobcat]

if it bleeds it can die

[lusty grove]

not always

[velvet cape]

I was gonna say cordyceps but thats a fungus

[rigid phoenix]

He said hornet gets assaulted thats why i was shocked

[night ruin]

What’s the difference really

[fiery burrow]

Its an alien knockoff

[night ruin]

Also that’s why impregnate was in quotes

[hollow abyss]

There's a big difference

[rigid phoenix]

She probably was hella racist

[night ruin]

Which is?

[quartz roost]

There is a text chat for gaining helpful knowledge, and you can control what knowledge you gain

[lusty grove]

she still is

[last dew]

that's just an interpretation outside of the obvious

[hollow abyss]

Jake's dad impregnation knockoff

[bold notch]

i just began my sk journey so idk what I'm doing all too well.

[icy crow]

Lord

[bold notch]

still have 5 masks

[last dew]

like obviously it's a parasite. but people can analise it differently

[fiery burrow]

Alien is themed around sexual violence and Silksong pretty heavily borrows from that but whether or not its intentional is unclear (but it'd be cool if it was)

[hollow abyss]

Parasites growing on you are from different species and don't need feccundation

[rigid phoenix]

Damn bro i feel like team cherry tryna base her off someone

[void moat]

greyroot’s parasitism is pretty on the nose with how the themes of the game prevent themselves

[quartz roost]

Why are you in a spoiler chat?

[hollow abyss]

And babies are more disgusting and harder to deal with

[last dew]

the idea of metaphors are very alien to a lot of people in this server

[bold notch]

idk.

[lusty grove]

it's a fetus, Greyroot keeps talking about "the time of birth", and the ending is Twisted Child
it does have some connotations

[night ruin]

Babies are harder to deal with than the cursed bud?

[hollow abyss]

Yah

[night ruin]

Are u a parent

[hollow abyss]

Fortunally no

[last dew]

hence why i don't think taking it too literally is the way!

[night ruin]

I c

[dusky bobcat]

yay! I finally beat LL hitless on all crests!

[rigid phoenix]

Yea

[last dew]

but yes thanks sashimi this adds a lot onto my point

[hollow abyss]

I wish i keep it that way tbf

[lusty grove]

me when my baby stops me from healing my paper cut, so I bleed out and die

[velvet cape]

And the whole game is around themes of motherhood its not a stretch to conclude that

[rigid phoenix]

Hell yeah now do savage beastfly

[void moat]

canonically the cursed bud just instantly kills whatever bug it gets implanted in

[lusty grove]

are you being sarcastic or did I actually do smth good?

[night ruin]

Right like there’s more than enough subtext here to know that this is obviously a metaphor for child bearing

[void moat]

it is objectively harder than raising a baby

[hollow abyss]

There are some moments in my life after seeing what kids do that i really would rather die than creating a new human beeing in the world

[dusky bobcat]

1 or 2?

[last dew]

i'm being genuine!

[fiery burrow]

Hornet was DEAD this entire time?

Majora's Mask ripoff

[rigid phoenix]

Both

[dull ermine]

steel soul took me 4 hrs and 30 savequits!

[lusty grove]

well, then thx! :]

[night ruin]

Greyroot literally forces Hornet to have his child. There’s no other way to look at it.

[velvet cape]

Hornet died in sealed siblings ending the hornet we play is a zombie

[void moat]

his?

[night ruin]

Idfk

[wise saddle]

cool now for the rest of the game

[last dew]

i usually just they/them greyroot

[fiery burrow]

I guess GR's gender is ambiguous

[dusky bobcat]

same

[night ruin]

Oh my god stay on topic chat

[lusty grove]

is Greyroot ever referred to with pronouns?

[last dew]

I don't think so

[bronze spruce]

Greyroot is actually very homophobic

[ancient mortar]

no

[dull ermine]

i did nail 2 and got 0 other upgrades, the only hard part was the path from trobbio to clawline which I savequitted 15 times alone for those lava sections

[lusty grove]

Greyroot never shows any kind of opinion, wdym

[velvet cape]

One word is what it takes to derail silksong convos

[hollow abyss]

Ehhhhh, parasitism..... A lot of animals get parasitated and they can't do much abt it....

[last dew]

also yes

[fiery burrow]

You can see it in her eyes

[void moat]

no

[dull ermine]

and hhg which took 5 savequits

[last dew]

which can be an allegory for the topic at hand

[hollow abyss]

No

[last dew]

this just further proves the interpretation

[bronze spruce]

Greyroot literally went up to me and said "im homophobic" trust me dude

[night ruin]

It sounds like youre just uncomfy calling it what it is

[fiery burrow]

I know a homophobic glare when I see one

[void moat]

does hornet have the same glare tho

[fiery burrow]

Yes

[last dew]

evillest eyes

[hollow abyss]

Im uncomfy saying something factually wrong and calling it the right call

[lusty grove]

damn, Greyroot spoke in first person just to tell you that

[void moat]

makes sense

[last dew]

do you know what the word factually means

[bronze spruce]

Reminds me of white lady

[hollow abyss]

It's like saying tomato is a vegetable/the earth is flat and u can't do much abt it

[lusty grove]

the eyes of a sinner

[void moat]

The.. Homophobia.. approaches..

[night ruin]

What fact is wrong about the content of Greyroot forcefully assaulting Hornet to carry his spawn

[fiery burrow]

Uh, tomato is a vegetable 💀

[bronze spruce]

Like a first sinner?

[lusty grove]

tomatos are vegetables

[hollow abyss]

Tomato is a fruit, it has seeds

[last dew]

it's both classified as a vegetable and a fruit

[fiery burrow]

Yeah its also a vegetable

[dusky bobcat]

it can also be considered a fruit

[lusty grove]

nah, more like a Road full of them

[hollow abyss]

It is a fruit

[fiery burrow]

How about I bake you a delicious fruit pie with some tomato thrown in

[lusty grove]

yes
it is both

[bronze spruce]

A.. sinners road?

[fiery burrow]

Would you fw it?

[potent monolith]

what are some fun mods

[velvet cape]

Yknow the best part about art is that it can have 2 meanings at the same time dont let your mind limit your interpretation and specially others interpretations ^^

[hollow abyss]

Still is a fruit pie

[last dew]

i want some too 😢

[dusky bobcat]

lost sinner? idfk

[fiery burrow]

Is this true guys

[night ruin]

Imagine going up to a woman irl and doing what Greyroot did to hornet. Would you go to jail for assault? Yes or no.

[potent monolith]

k

[fiery burrow]

Blah blah palate of a 5 year old wtv

[mighty crest]

mushrooms respect

[hollow abyss]

Im just saying hornet got parasitated, not that she got fecundated/raped or sum

[last dew]

or infinite meanings! silksong has multiple things that can be allegories to a series of real life situations

[finite swift]

The woman would die bro

[lusty grove]

"avocado" bro thinks he's on the team

[ancient mortar]

tomatoes are overrated

[potent monolith]

potatoes should be S+

[fiery burrow]

You just aren't having good tomatos

[viscid fiber]

Potatoes on a tier and not s tier?

[lusty grove]

wait... mushrooms??

[finite swift]

Mushrooms on S tier this guy knows ball

[night ruin]

Does her being alive change the question in any way

[fiery burrow]

Potatoes are so overrated im ngl

[velvet cape]

Imo i think its both

[dusky bobcat]

more of a challenging mod than a fun one, we don't have any non masochistic mods rn that i know of

[last dew]

and that's fine. i think it's both

[finite swift]

I just got here what on earth are we talking about

[void moat]

potatoes suck, theyre carried by salt and geometry

[dusky bobcat]

greyroot

[lusty grove]

she got parasitated, but it could be a metaphor to child bearing

[fiery burrow]

I don't think they suck but they aren't anything crazy

[lusty grove]

and Yarnaby is an abortion clinic

[hollow abyss]

Tomatos shouldn't be on that tier list, neither pumpkins or avocados. But corn beeing at S is atrociously bad

[finite swift]

Damn it, its the abortion discussion again

[hollow abyss]

The entire s tier is wrong tbf

[last dew]

corn is great

[velvet cape]

Again a great comparison is the Alien franchise

[finite swift]

Corn is ass

[viscid fiber]

Mushrooms are fine tho

[finite swift]

Mushrooms mmmm yumyy

[fiery burrow]

No sane person is throwing pumpkin avocado or tomatos in their fruit tierlist

[hollow abyss]

Child bearing, idk what it is but maybe, but she did not get pregnant dawg

[velvet cape]

It treats violent parasitation as an allegory of sa

[dusky bobcat]

jalapenos in b is painful to see as a man who likes spicy food

[last dew]

chill on avocado

[fiery burrow]

Corn on the cob is pretty good

[hollow abyss]

Meh

[viscid fiber]

Aren't avocados literaly fruit tho

[lusty grove]

maybe it's a culture thing, but avocados are for sure fruits where I live

[fiery burrow]

Idk why there are so many corn haters on Discord I didn't know those existed

[hollow abyss]

I course engineering, im not sane

[night ruin]

Oh my god bruh

[marsh spoke]

Avocado could go both ways with being a fruit or vegetable but pumpkin is outside of the spectrum

[fleet crystal]

do you guys think wanderers crest or hunters crest is better

[last dew]

do you know what metaphors are. or allegories

[fiery burrow]

Nope! They're on my vegetable tierlist

[lusty grove]

it's a metaphor

[void moat]

hunter

[night ruin]

Evidently not

[dusky bobcat]

corn off the cob is ok

[last dew]

i figured

[hollow abyss]

Yeah, but she did not get pregnant

[last dew]

like on a plate?

[fiery burrow]

Also its a fun vegetable to eat

[dusky bobcat]

depends on how often you get hit

[viscid fiber]

Corn is great I just wouldn't say S tier
Let alone peas

[last dew]

i don't remember what cob means i feel silly

[lusty grove]

no one's saying she did, but it's clearly a metaphor

[fleet crystal]

whats better about hunter

[hollow abyss]

B+ at max

[velvet cape]

So you admit it is an allegory to abuse

[night ruin]

“Stay still while I hold you down and force you to carry my child. But hey at least you’re not pregnant!”

[dusky bobcat]

its the hard stick in the middle that the corn goes on

[last dew]

i think that's the best way to put this interpretation

[fiery burrow]

Its the middle section of the corn

Like you eat around it

[last dew]

thank uou

[fiery burrow]

Its fun and I will never take corn slander

[last dew]

i like munchingn on it

[dusky bobcat]

that hard non edible part in the middle

[hollow abyss]

Literally what happens with a bunch of ppl with parasites

[ancient mortar]

genuine grammar question. Is allegory the right term for what greyroot quest is doing?

[lusty grove]

speaking of Greyroot, I find it cool that Greyroot never speaks in the first person
they never mention themself, only others

[hollow abyss]

Fr

[fiery burrow]

Yeah

[last dew]

i think so! it's used for stories who have hidden meanings iirc.

[finite swift]

Greyroot discussion

[keen solstice]

Higher DPS wider range 2 red tool slots better pogo

[hollow abyss]

Atp im calling it weirdness ig

[last dew]

or other interpretations

[night ruin]

You must be joking if you think people are calling their fleas “cursed child” in a game about motherhood

[marsh spoke]

Our brains are growing

[last dew]

nothing weird about trying to make deeper analysis on things people deem as obvious

[lusty grove]

like, they never say "bring the bud to me", they say "bring the bud here"

[hollow abyss]

Not pinging while replying makes me somewhat uncomfortable. Dk why tho

[hollow abyss]

It man 😭

[fiery burrow]

?tag yesping

[white sail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985794659894829117/1274898968496705536/plsping.png?ex=66c73970&is=66c5e7f0&hm=d901d5317c70b09a27ce9b414d777315bc090bf67413aa9eb7948f5076a0d7a0&

[fiery burrow]

its still there 🙏

[lusty grove]

bro you must be either ragebaiting or stupid cuz the parallels are obvious

[last dew]

i think it's fair to not want to interpret the greyroot quest as an allegory for sa but going back and forth on how everyone else is wrong for thinking otherwise isn't nice

[finite swift]

Yes, greyroot quest can be a possible allegory for "forced carrying a child", but do remember Hornet (probably) cant possibly or cannot carry a off spring since she mentioned that with Eva

Im not sure what side I am on though, dont attack me ✌️

[night ruin]

Watch out for deer guys their cursed children can give you Lyme disease

[void moat]

id say greyroot is definitely an allegory but i wouldnt say it’s literally sa cause this is a kids game

[hollow abyss]

Thought the game was abt killing big enemies and enjoying the process

[velvet cape]

He just doesnt like what the quest is trying to represent so he is sticking with what he saw

[last dew]

i don't think it's necessarily a kids game

[lusty grove]

"I will insert something on you that looks and acts like a fetus, and it will greatly hinder your abilities and have a weird effect when interacting to a being called "Mother""

[night ruin]

Who told u that

[lusty grove]

"hm... well, at least I'm not pregnant!"

[last dew]

this is a very ignorant way of viewing it

[fiery burrow]

I think its fair to call it a kids game

[dusky bobcat]

this has became more of a lore discussion than about the gameplay

[last dew]

it's probably fair yes

[cobalt pilot]

Who's the being called "mother"? /Gen

[void moat]

unless im wrong the game is rated e10+

[finite swift]

To be fair, it looks friendly enough.

[lusty grove]

GMS

Grand Mother Silk

[cobalt pilot]

OH

LMAO my bad

[fiery burrow]

OGs remember when the game got rated in 2024 and people thought that meant it was literally finished

[void moat]

greyroot is a pretty cool character i wish they got expanded on more

[wise saddle]

who would've guessed that greyroot would lead to this argument rn

[velvet cape]

Kids game with mature themes

[hollow abyss]

None

[earnest drift]

what's happening

[last dew]

no i'm sure i meant more that it was supposed to be made for children. which i guess wasn't exactly in tc's mind. but i don't think it's for adults either
if this even makes sense sorry i don't know how to word it better

[fiery burrow]

Like the best kids media

[velvet cape]

Hell yeah

[wise saddle]

greyroot parasite being pregnancy or not

[night ruin]

Idk what to tell you, there’s a forced impregnation/rape allegory in this kids game.

[earnest drift]

not a literal pregnancy, but it's an allegory for that

[void moat]

this is fair, im just saying i dont think tc intended for it to directly be sa, but the allegory is there

[lusty grove]

it's not LITERALLY pregnancy, but it is a METAPHOR to pregnancy

[velvet cape]

Adventure time has them too!!!

[last dew]

yes that's what i mean

[night ruin]

Get this man a true

[void moat]

yes this is what im saying

[marsh spoke]

i wouldn't particularly call silksong a children's game for anything other than the artstyle. Teen is fine i think

[earnest drift]

and because of the allegory, greyroot is my most hated character in both games

yes worse than kratt

[lusty grove]

also the fact that Greyroot just straight up dies is kinda... idk, weird

[earnest drift]

deserved

[lusty grove]

but still weird

like, why?

[void moat]

theyre a witch, transferred consciousness to the bud and became trapped in witch crest

[night ruin]

Kind of fits the allegory really well

[lusty grove]

not that well if you consider that they're the father

[ancient mortar]

are we still talking about this

[night ruin]

Raping a young woman, forcing her to carry your spawn, and fucking off? That’s painfully realistic

[lusty grove]

it's interesting

[last dew]

i mean rapists aren't known for keeping their children

[void moat]

it’s a fine topic, better than most

[velvet cape]

The bud is a mere tool for greyroot to implant itself into hornet

[finite swift]

Unfortunately, yes

[lusty grove]

oh, so, they're in purgatory now

[velvet cape]

See what i did

[dusky bobcat]

maybe because of the fact the parasite may only need to sustain one host at a time. after greyroot did its j*b they died. Thats my interpretation at least

[last dew]

it's a nice topic i don't see what's unfortunate about it

[lusty grove]

it's less like fucking off and more like dying

[velvet cape]

Think of it as binding eva

[void moat]

i mean, it’s ambiguous i think, hornet just says she can control the bud now

[last dew]

first time this channel has an actual conversation that makes sense

[earnest drift]

if i had a nickel for every time an allegory for sa was included in an indie game series that released the part in 2025 and caused controversy in their respective communities, i'd have two nickels

[last dew]

mm sure

[finite swift]

Whatss the other one?

[last dew]

which isn't a lot, but it has happened twice!

[velvet cape]

Whats the ither

[void moat]

what other cool silksong lore topics can we scrounge up

[earnest drift]

deltarune, but the allegory was removed due to the controversy

[lusty grove]

okay, yeah, I see the parallels too, but from a logical point of view, dying after inpregnating someone is a weird thing to do

[hollow abyss]

For me it really doesn't in some aspect
Im tryna get what u all saying but i fr can't

[velvet cape]

Oh

[last dew]

enlighten me?

[fiery burrow]

BELL HERMIT ‼️

[dusky bobcat]

trobbio?

[finite swift]

Yo what??????? WHERE???? WHAT WAS IT??

[earnest drift]

if you don't already know about deltarune's weird route it's a bit long to explain

[hollow abyss]

Old ma'am*

[fiery burrow]

What is this cowardice

[void moat]

weird route chapter 4’s snowgave scene had a rose losing it’s flowers pictured

[ancient mortar]

make sure to spoiler tag deltarune spoilers

[last dew]

oh i do i did play it. i didn't catch anything that had to do with sa allegory however?

[finite swift]

Youch...

[last dew]

i guess since it was removed

but i never even heard of it

[earnest drift]

||the chapter 4 weird route cutscene used to end in a flower withering away, symbolising loss of innocence and deflowering||

[void moat]

it was replaced with a dot, but then a huge crack on the screen

[velvet cape]

Beyond fucked up regardless of the age

[last dew]

oh that part!

[void moat]

the dot was cool, i liked the dot

[lusty grove]

basically you force a kid to kill a bird in a conventional marriage kind of way, and the second part of it includes a r*pe allegory

[wise saddle]

doesn't change anything

[last dew]

i love dots

[hollow abyss]

Doesn't greyroot still lives inside of hornet.... She literally talks after the surgery that it still is inside of her but she can control it

[last dew]

????? whyd i say kids

[fiery burrow]

i was gonna say

[hollow abyss]

[lusty grove]

yeah but it's the bud
the main part dies

[marsh spoke]

this getting removed because of kids being fucking stupid and misinterpreting it was stupid i hate children so much

[last dew]

oh i see that

[quartz roost]

Greyroot puts it inside you killing herself

[night ruin]

I thought that was cut content

[finite swift]

What was the original idea of that scene anyway, I want spoilers

[earnest drift]

yeah it was really effective, sucks the backlash got so bad

[ancient mortar]

no it just got patched out quickly after release

[night ruin]

That’s the same thing

[cobalt pilot]

The topic was banned from the deltarune server even

[ancient mortar]

cut content usually implies it was cut pre release no?

[last dew]

the deltarune server kinda sucks

[hollow abyss]

Atp i think yall just tripping too much over something smal

[night ruin]

Makes no difference to me

[last dew]

people there seem to come straight from a tiktok comment section. the worst kind

[velvet cape]

Its fun discussing over small things

[full rune]

fixed

[cobalt pilot]

Yeah tbh

[fiery burrow]

preach

[versed pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-black-guys-two-black-guys-apple-apple-laptop-gif-3090298217787114336

[finite swift]

50/50 gamble

[night ruin]

What did Deltarune do to you

[void moat]

people are like that here too lowkey

[hollow abyss]

Isn't the noelle incident in the 5th chapter? Or am i trippin

[dusky bobcat]

me trying to get architect crest to work without toolslots

[fiery burrow]

Deltarune don't even got giant setpieces with numbers on them 🥀

[ancient mortar]

chapter 5 hasnt been released

[lusty grove]

god I wish

[hollow abyss]

Oh yeah, it was 3 and 4. I was trippin mb

[finite swift]

"Green Princ'es are brothers!"
"Lace is Hornet's aunt!"
"Phantom is a girl!"

FUCK YOUUUU 😭

[dusky bobcat]

lowk didnt have a single one onlocked besides the reds which came with it

[hollow abyss]

I can't get it

[last dew]

the first one pisses me off so bad

[fiery burrow]

Last 2 are true

[night ruin]

AUNTIE LACE THEORY LMAOOO

[full rune]

"Green Princ'es are dead!"
"Lace is dead!"
"Phantom is a dead!"

BASEDDDDD

[void moat]

kill them all

[versed pollen]

Zal.... you are dead next.... be wary....

[finite swift]

copied my message other mods attempt silk extraction

[hollow abyss]

Im pretty sure they are tho

[fiery burrow]

fym X vro

[cobalt pilot]

Lace is alive theory 🥹

[finite swift]

dude ??

[night ruin]

Lace is as much hornet’s aunt as Thanatos is Zagreus’ older brother

[velvet cape]

It excersises your mind and most likely will make you learn something new which is always goof

[lusty grove]

no???
it is a major plot point that this is false
gender not confirmed

[fiery burrow]

I don't watch marvelslop

[void moat]

id consider the first two false, and the last one correct, personally

[silver oak]

so funny my guy, reddit gold

[fiery burrow]

OK that's not marvel I misread

I'm never coming back from this

[dusky bobcat]

Lowk the only reason hornet takes damage is because of us, we're holding her back so much

[earnest drift]

THANATOS IS NOT MARVEL

[exotic fern]

i really love how small the knight looks compared to silksong bosses

[lusty grove]

Phantom's gender is unspecified

[earnest drift]

9w7rf9owuncownvuwbofeneorvbuoienmrv

[fiery burrow]

I'm leaving the server for that bro 🥀

[night ruin]

Lmao

[lusty grove]

it still wins thou

[versed pollen]

Bye

[velvet cape]

Canon hornet spamming witch crest slop

[earnest drift]

marvel is slop though

[last dew]

i don't think phantom is gendered in any dialogue but correct me if i'm wrong

[fiery burrow]

Now I'm not doing it

[finite swift]

Knight vs Disgraced Chef

hes going somewhere

[cobalt pilot]

They/them in the journal entry

[last dew]

or in any description really

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[marsh spoke]

ch4 spoilers for anyone else since some people here care iirc ||the weird route relationship between krih and noelle is basically really really reminding of forced marriage. In ch2 you basically make krih buy a ring for her and all and etc. the original intent of the rose scene was loss of innocence, representing noelle's loss of autonomy both symbolically (you're forcing her to disregard her queer identity and marry someone that's also forced by you into a heteronormative role) and literally (thorn ring is a trance down which makes it easier for you to control noelle)||
im exhausted and not particularly giving it a lot of thought so i might be wrong on the details but that's the idea

[versed pollen]

What convinced you otherwise

[last dew]

can you show me this would be important

[velvet cape]

It is happening again

[dusky bobcat]

i don't think witch crest is slop when we have architect bs

[cobalt pilot]

Ja hold on

[void moat]

there’s a needolin scene where lace calls her sister, it’s pretty explicit, if you disagree about it then she’s ambiguous, because hj’s pronouns dont indicate a character’s gender

[velvet cape]

All roads lead to witch crest slop

[fiery burrow]

I remembered the great times I had discussing pangrea

[void moat]

ambiguous* not genderless

[lusty grove]

it's unclear who is talking to who

[fiery burrow]

no its not

[frosty kelp]

Yooo I beat widow without dodging the slash dashing attack and only parrying it. Beast has really good parry window

[versed pollen]

Which never happened

[ancient mortar]

Hunters journal uses they/them, they are called sister in a thread memory. I personally see them as nb and just chill with some gendered terms. but thats speculation

[earnest drift]

why can't it be phantom talking or thinking to lace

[night ruin]

We don’t know who the speaker is in this scene

[last dew]

i see!

[heady iron]

Are you using krih like we're using dih now

[void moat]

she’s incapacitated in a lifepod

[velvet cape]

Is phantom a weaver

[night ruin]

Resetting a counter every time we talk about that stupid scene

[exotic fern]

they instantly melt like every boss with a single abyss shriek

[earnest drift]

they can still think

[velvet cape]

No phantom is not

[night ruin]

We don’t know this

[ancient mortar]

no, same kind of creature as lace

[marsh spoke]

It is really funny

[fiery burrow]

If we evolved from the big bang howcome there's still big bangs

[velvet cape]

Stupif katze

[void moat]

ok then why is lace there

[last dew]

smart katze

[quartz roost]

The mirror dialogue in-between lace and phantom refers to one of them as sister, but we are unaware who is speaking

[night ruin]

Because siblings

[void moat]

if theyre thinking snd she isnt important why is she there

[velvet cape]

Mb

[hollow abyss]

For me it doesn't. Makes me feel like I'm smoking something.

[earnest drift]

because phantom is thinking to them
they call her "sister"

[lusty grove]

it makes sense that Godseeker calls Vengefly King a god, they survived against the Knight for 10 seconds

[cobalt pilot]

I like to call him assgore instead of asgore

[night ruin]

Because lace wants to be around her sibling idfk

[fiery burrow]

Lace is taking the more active pondering pose while Phantom is chillin in the tank

[earnest drift]

this seems like a lot of stretching to gender a character with an unspecified gender

[fiery burrow]

Also GMS only makes daughters

[exotic fern]

phantom is silkborne

[night ruin]

This is getting dangerously close to that argument about second sentinel gender

[earnest drift]

"everyone else was female so they must be female" is wild

[quartz roost]

It doesn't tell you who is speaking

[fiery burrow]

Why

[velvet cape]

I hope you find the joy this channel has when they discuss stuff its really fun

[night ruin]

You shouldn’t assume genders like that, especially if canonical resources show us otherwise

[void moat]

blindness devil may have cursed this chat

[fiery burrow]

They don't

[last dew]

i'll stick with they/theming phantom it doesn't seems very nice to atribute gendered pronouns to characters who have them ambiguous

[earnest drift]

if you have to go digging deep and using abductive reasoning to justify a character "most likely being female" maybe don't

[ancient mortar]

Thanks this is all todays chat was missing

[void moat]

<@&283547423706447872>

[hollow abyss]

Why tf yall even try to figure out that

[exotic fern]

KILL HIM

[chrome granite]

Free money!

[night ruin]

they/them n journal is pretty blatant

[silver oak]

yea

[quartz roost]

If you check the wiki it says that too, at least last time i checked

[fiery burrow]

Its the default assumption

[fiery burrow]

They/them can be used for women watch me

[dusky bobcat]

oh btw i accidentally encouraged my friend to progress to act 3 without doing savage beastfly, disgraced chef, raging conchfly, and lot of other bosses... but he's fine now

[earnest drift]

-_-
they/them defaults to female?

[void moat]

because of arguments like these, people get pissed no matter what gender you pick

[exotic fern]

https://tenor.com/view/cato-gif-8317970102173134038

[night ruin]

fucking yike

[last dew]

it can! but it's not usually the case in games

[fiery burrow]

Nah but sister does

[cobalt pilot]

You know even if phantom is a girl their pronouns are still they/them according to the journal entry

So

[void moat]

sister splinter journal entry

[earnest drift]

which is more likely to be phantom referring to lace

[fiery burrow]

This game does use they/them for women multiple times

[night ruin]

its been zero days since skdisc said something transphobic

[native canyon]

it's pointless to argue this rose

[exotic fern]

they them can be used for anyone its a gender neutral term

[last dew]

such as?

[cobalt pilot]

There's no reason to misgender them

[finite swift]

Phantom gender discussion

[cobalt pilot]

The discord ragebaiting is getting to me

[quartz roost]

I'm not saying which gender she is since it doesn't tell us who is speaking, she is probably female though probably

[hollow abyss]

I mostly enjoy when sum game mechanics are justified by sum. Or finding out some detail that happened because an in game even
But discussing topics outside of the game are kinda just meh if they are small details and not what the authors trully intended

[marsh spoke]

Everyone in this game is a straight white male now none of you deserve anything

[fiery burrow]

Sister Splinter comes to mind
Garmond is a dude and is referred to with they as well

[ancient mortar]

Not really, the way the scene is composed certainly more heavily implies lace is speaking, not to say someone cant be nb and be fine with gendered terms. But it defo seems more likely lace is speaking.

[velvet cape]

Putrified ducts is silksongs city of tears

[void moat]

last judge is confirmed to be a she by her va

[earnest drift]

"phantom is a woman" people sound just as desperate as "lace is an adult" people lol

[exotic fern]

who cares what phantoms gender is its a wannabe bug made out of silk

[night ruin]

genuinely

[chrome granite]

Phantom is undebatably male.

[finite swift]

Real question is what is Disgraced Chef

[fiery burrow]

how was that transphobic

[exotic fern]

lugoli

[void moat]

actually unspecified

[frosty kelp]

Also I figured out the reason beast has such a generous parry window is because of its really thick hitbox has a bigger chance to overlap with the enemy's hitbox and parrying

[last dew]

isn't garmond referred to with they due to zaza? or is there dialogue that refers to him exclusively, without the presence of zaza?

[heady iron]

I headcanon Phantom as she/her so whenever I refer to her as her it's my headcanon and I will not specify unless explicitly asked

[velvet cape]

I share most of this but i recognize the later can be fun for other people

[mental arch]

It has been 0 days since sea of sorrows news

[cobalt pilot]

They/them

[ancient mortar]

Lugioli is only they/them so presumably nb/genderless same with groal iirc

[void moat]

it goes along the lines of “a knight and their steed”

[solemn tartan]

Vigorous knight and their noble companion think

[finite swift]

FUCK YOU

[exotic fern]

KILL

[void moat]

<@&283547423706447872>

[cobalt pilot]

<@&283547423706447872>

[last dew]

mm

[ancient mortar]

More money! im so excited!

[fiery burrow]

The latter yes "Vigorous old knight and their noble companion"

[hollow abyss]

I feel like going over too much discussion abt sum1 gender is just too much for me to comprehend the commotion

[silver oak]

yea

[velvet cape]

Yall where the fuck is my moneu

[last dew]

thank you! i really was wondering

[mental arch]

how dumb do u have to be to fall for Logan Paul giving u 2500 for free

[night ruin]

i shared a silly gif of second sentinel and 12th architect and used she/her on them, which then kicked off some guy's long rant about how robots cannot have gender because... reasons

[void moat]

logan paul is my Friend

[velvet cape]

WAS IT A SCAM

OH NO MY MONEY NOOOOOO

[earnest drift]

people going by he/they exist

[night ruin]

victim^

[mental arch]

tell him he's a bitch

[crystal geyser]

HOW ARE YOU STILL DEBATING THIS ITS BEEN A DAY

[dusky patio]

STEEL HEART :DDDDDDDDDDD

[hollow abyss]

I just can't. Most of the reason why i can't enjoy museums/art gallerys and places like that ig

[chrome granite]

You're just jealous, Logan Paul gave me $2500.

[frosty kelp]

About what?

[cobalt pilot]

Okay goodbye shades and Astig I am going to watch Buffy with my family now. Good luck

[fiery burrow]

They/them is a neutral pronoun yeah

[night ruin]

did you just get in chat or something how are you this confused

[mental arch]

buddy im the 3rd paul brother ur not shit

[earnest drift]

phantom only ever goes by they/them and they call lace sister
phantom is non binary

[last dew]

no one's debating that

[crystal geyser]

im perpetually confused

[fiery burrow]

You can use they for dudes and girls in addition to non binary people yall that's how the word works

[night ruin]

real and iconic

[versed pollen]

Yea.... robots are all objects to be used.... just like women....

[crystal geyser]

also thank god that debates not happening anymore

[heady iron]

This is just debating the hollow knight's gender again, like the lore clearly states he's genderless

[hollow abyss]

Im mostly towards the "why tf yall even care"
For me its like saying u can't call everyone a bro

[velvet cape]

Thats valid but i hope you know you should respect others as much as they respect you

[fiery burrow]

The fact that people can't comprehend this in 2026 is staggering

[earnest drift]

he's genderless

[void moat]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[last dew]

"he's" "genderless"

[finite swift]

GIGGLING

[night ruin]

bro meaning brother?

[marsh spoke]

The hollow knight is male of course

[ancient mortar]

This is expert bait

[crystal geyser]

HIS PRONOUNS ARE THEY/THEM ah post 😭

[native canyon]

yes but phantom is unspecified

[versed pollen]

Jngo sometimes it scares me how goated you are

[mental arch]

yeah his name is jeffrey

[earnest drift]

the hollow knight is mailbox

[chrome granite]

What? I thought it is female.

[finite swift]

and he works 9-5

[solemn tartan]

His writing is their fire?

[ancient mortar]

All this chat needs now is lace age discourse

[fiery burrow]

Sister is specification

[frosty kelp]

Ofc they are genderless but why use he

[last dew]

https://tenor.com/view/pronouns-gender-lgbt-gif-22987568

[hollow abyss]

I do respect them i just really try to find the fun/understand why all the commotion abt it
I may seem rude/dumb one time or another but im mostly trying to comprehend the stuff ig

[velvet cape]

Gender fluif

[fiery burrow]

Also GMS only makes daughters

[silver oak]

That’s the joke

[frosty kelp]

Ohhhh

[night ruin]

unspecified by not knowing who is actually calling who sister

[native canyon]

oh fucking whatever it's pointless to argue with you

[balmy wraith]

idc what the knight is if languages can give objects genders i can too

[earnest drift]

perhaps phantom transitioned
you know like real life enbies

[fiery burrow]

Baseless

[versed pollen]

Woaw...... based.....

[night ruin]

idk why they act like this all the time

[chrome granite]

why would phantom transition?
to rebel?

[earnest drift]

because they wanted to

[quartz roost]

You just called it male in that text

[void moat]

i mean, they never rebelled anyway

[finite swift]

Can we rename Phantom into Pharloom

[solemn tartan]

Phantom is nonbinary but lace doesn’t respect her identity

[native canyon]

BITING MY TONGUE SO FUCKING HARD

[velvet cape]

Then again i hope you find the fun because this place loves talking about small details 😭

[void moat]

i cant believe lace did that

[earnest drift]

transphobic lace

[versed pollen]

Yea I can accept this theory actually

[light swan]

box shades tou were right matthew might be the funnest

[marsh spoke]

This place doesn't talk about anything

[night ruin]

nuu gender discourse time

[earnest drift]

i still think it's more likely phantom is calling lace sister

[versed pollen]

Nothing ever happens anymore

[hollow abyss]

Ya( i guess), i just call everyone bro/man/dud/brotha so it feels strange when sum1 calls me some slur for doing so

[void moat]

nuu is beyond pronouns

gender too

[native canyon]

trueee

[marsh spoke]

100% of everything here is discourse for the sake of discourse

[velvet cape]

Nuu is a higher being

[silver oak]

we WILL continue until all characters have been misgendered

[last dew]

nuu with i/me/myself

[night ruin]

im sure you can understand why someone may not want you to call them man

[manic schooner]

sherma is a she

[hollow abyss]

Sometimes it is cool to ragebait when they get really pissed off and can't continue the conversation

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/trobbio-hollow-knight-silksong-never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-green-gif-10038706922124382739

[void moat]

khann is silksong’s best girlboss

[versed pollen]

Sherma is a fat fuck loser is what

[silver oak]

well this is just true

[earnest drift]

can we ban misgendering the vessels please

[velvet cape]

If ragebaiting was a career id have a phd

[night ruin]

what did sherm do to yu

[hollow abyss]

I do/can't but i don't mind not calling if they ask, even tho it may slip sometimes. But i don't get why some ppl instantly try to slur

[finite swift]

new topic How goated is Khann

[void moat]

team cherry has misgendered tk before

[last dew]

like 150k people are getting slimed

[versed pollen]

Good question

[exotic fern]

on groal the greats LIFE hornet goes by blee/blim

[void moat]

he is a tyrant

[hollow abyss]

I would only be a masters ig

[finite swift]

still goated

[void moat]

yeah fair enough

[dusky patio]

guys i just got steel heart :D

[solemn tartan]

Green Prince in the fight with GMS shooting beans and plants

[last dew]

awesome

[ancient mortar]

most of my country would see this as a plus

[native canyon]

there's no such thing as differing opinions, only arguments to be won

[earnest drift]

he has a big army he is very proud of strength
as a result i believe karmelita needs to wrestle him into submission

[silver oak]

I was on to something 5 years ago

[marsh spoke]

Fuck having different interpretations

[finite swift]

Karmelita gives him belly rubs

[marsh spoke]

Everyone needs to read the text like I do

[earnest drift]

yes

[last dew]

i like this a lot

[night ruin]

someone deadass said this yesterday

[marsh spoke]

Everyone needs to play how I play

[exotic dome]

silksong if it wasnt mid

[void moat]

i think a khann and karmelita fight would end with them both hitting eachother really hard and theyd both get knocked out

[marsh spoke]

Everyone needs to think how I think

[native canyon]

TRUTH NUKE

[ancient mortar]

Hey guys we've almost hit the checklist of every discourse on the entire server in one day. Does anyone want to start the last few for a full blackout bingo?

[hollow abyss]

Valid

[quartz roost]

Which text? I don't have context

[solemn tartan]

A Khann and Karmelita fight would end with Hegemol yawning knocking them both out

[night ruin]

you sound tired

[earnest drift]

khann wouldn't hit karmelita because "it's wrong to hit a woman"
then karmelita puts him in a headlock without hurting him

[fiery burrow]

hi hi hhih hi who wants to talk aact 3

[finite swift]

Karmelita woulds send her children after his ass

[marsh spoke]

The concept of someone thinking about things differently than me irrationally pisses me off and if I could I would violently beat and maim everyone here who thinks even slightly different than I do

[ancient mortar]

Lets talk about slab flies

[fiery burrow]

we already hit that one

[versed pollen]

OOohh

[ancient mortar]

WE DID?

[void moat]

mmm.. lace age discourse?

[ancient mortar]

Fuck you guys do everything without me

[velvet cape]

I disagree

[fiery burrow]

Yup

[void moat]

phantom gender, slabfly, greyroot sa

[finite swift]

Khann is 50/50/50 Alpha male with a mind that goes traditionally or (still) Alpha male that respects roles OR Just cares whos stronger

[void moat]

so fsr i think

[native canyon]

astig is personifying this server right now

[void moat]

khann is like an evil dictator i think hed hate and hit everyone equally

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-writing-blackbeard-feather-writing-heresy-gif-4408192544333034740

[chrome granite]

If it looks, thinks, feels and acts like a child, it is a child.

[night ruin]

i think lace was created with the intention of being a child forever, but the events of act 3 show us that she wants to be something more

[marsh spoke]

I love being here

[native canyon]

respectfully disagreeing doesn't exist if you don't read the text like me you're simply coping and wrong

[finite swift]

I like taht I can tell this was animated by a human being

[marsh spoke]

Are we talking about act 3?

Fuck act 3

[void moat]

act 3 is bad

[crystal geyser]

hey quick question do you like hollow knight/pure vessel because if not im going to beat you to death

[marsh spoke]

There's nothing good in act 3

[fiery burrow]

Sometimes people who disagree with you really are wrong that's kinda how truth works

And sometimes you're wrong its not that deep

[finite swift]

Korean silksong community is something else

[void moat]

they didnt give lace enough screentime for me to like her, making an entire act focused around her is foolish

[ancient mortar]

I think it goes slabflies, act three whinging, phantom gender, second sentinel gender, pale king glazing/hating, Is hornet racist/homophobic. Crest discourse, game bad discourse, and of course the holy grail of lace age discourse.

[marsh spoke]

Yeah you're right

[fiery burrow]

We need more bad game discourse the others aren't interesting

[quartz roost]

Plus the caretaker says "she is a child in body and in mind" if i remember correctly

[night ruin]

i think what matters more is the tone of it all

[void moat]

green prince is so cool i wish i could draw him

[fiery burrow]

Except PK ig

[void moat]

i have an idea for a new shitty discourse

[native canyon]

man I hope you never get into anything I enjoy because you're so fucking depressing

[night ruin]

people shouldnt be acting like dickwads over interpretable material

[finite swift]

thought dickwads was supposd to be cogwork dancers

[void moat]

should i mention it or not because itll start discourse

[chrome granite]

You are wrong, my interpretation is the objectively correct one.

[versed pollen]

"Bad game discourse" so we need to talk about Flappy bird now

[ancient mortar]

go for it

[vagrant rock]

But what about the age

[marsh spoke]

Remember guys I'm right and all of you are wrong and stupid and should only do things as I do and think about things the way I think about them

[night ruin]

im gonna wear your shoes lil bro

[fiery burrow]

I was thinking E33 but sure

[void moat]

what did tc mean by killing off nearly every lgbtq ship in the hkverse

[chrome granite]

The age doesn't matter here.

[graceful oyster]

I hate relic seeker scrounge I want Lemm back

[versed pollen]

I couldn't think of anything creative on time so I just had to go back to the root of it all

[marsh spoke]

Fuck lemm

[ancient mortar]

Australians hate gay people and think they can make tornados /j

[night ruin]

dont feed the troll guys

[marsh spoke]

Fuck everything in this franchise

[silver oak]

would you walk a mile

[fiery burrow]

We got being able to read the relics which is a big upgrade at the cost of Scrounge being a nothingburger character 😔

[finite swift]

All bugs in hollow knight could be underaged due to actual bug age methinks

[cobalt pilot]

Nevermind I'm back cus they're finishing an episode of something else

[void moat]

harvesting gay people for tornadoes is so inhumane

[graceful oyster]

So true

[exotic dome]

you don't belong in this server if you like silksong

[versed pollen]

All Lemm did was eat 10 eggs

[finite swift]

does this include the Green Prince

[fiery burrow]

Silksong vendors don't have any sauce icl

[marsh spoke]

Nah

[night ruin]

yes but in very tiny step sizes

[cobalt pilot]

What did lemm do

[void moat]

yeah

[fiery burrow]

Sly was crazy tuff what did Jubilana do

[graceful oyster]

Scrounge has one cool feature and it's when you notice it's one of the vault centipedes

[marsh spoke]

If you like silksong I think you should genuinely be placed in the brazen bull

[ancient mortar]

Has lace age discourse happened yet today

[void moat]

set starpengu free she hates silksong

[solemn tartan]

Defeat my drapemites

[finite swift]

be goated

[versed pollen]

I can't believe they fixed the Sly GS hitbox bro

[solemn tartan]

Save my brother

[night ruin]

unlike you chuds i only like good games. and i only dislike bad games. its shrimple