#sk-discussion
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Drakademiks
yeah that's also lame
names are just names
they cannot be copyrighted
there are many movies with the same name
my god people just parrot shit they hear off youtube shorts i swear
ok so we aren't mad about AI use
there's a show called grimm, they should sue team cherry for all of their money and get the grimm troupe removed
its fine to dislike AI, but have actual arguements, plenty of them exist
we are mad that the writer didn't do research
Correct I think
yeah
so
shows up on google whenever i try to look for troupe master grimm too, pisses me off
shut the fuck up stop telling me what I'm mad at
so we agree, then why are we arguing about this
Honk
Adding some lore to my obby game 
OpenAI is not paying you bro
Wait isn't that oobja?
time to go for 100% ‼️
the ai probably took the names from some shitty reddit post anyway
I feel like you guys are just hating on genAI for the sake of hating it now
Good luck
sorry I have principles
Shaw
You don't need to be offended because im not just attacking AI for no reason, its a useful tool. it has its problems as well. There is good and bad.
I'm an artist literally fucking starting their animation career
i think being on either extreme side of hating / loving ai is silly
Beer
i do in fact hate on gen ai for the sake of hating on it but i also have a doomer stance about many things and i think gen ai is definitely not going away
ok and I agree that genAI art sucks?
gen ai has plenty of super beneficial uses, the bigger issue is with the way people use it
im not on either side, i think most ai is certainly bad and is used for terrible purposes and is really dookie, but the way it was used here isnt super bad and the main bad part about this is how terribly they misrepresented what they were trying to make
Absolutely abyssmal dogshit
“Art”
I'm not accepting bullshit even if it's inevitable
ok so we agree
100%, so many people use ai poorly and thats the issue, so many people also use it to do lots of great things for the world so being reasonable is accepting both sides
Yuh
I still don't understand your argument
and as such fully hating or fully loving on ai is being silly and illogical
agreed tbh
I hope we all fucking die and go extinct so we don't have to suffer
I thought I was supposed to be the unreasonable one here 
does lace2 have a different hitbox size than lost lace
i somehow keep missing my pogo on lace2
ai can be used to help humanity, and i feel like some ai such as like, idfk, alexa, or like, google assistant do that pretty well
being reliant on ai is a bad habit though and many (notably younger people) are, its only good to use as a last resort really
Honestly you might actually want to go to therapy from your messages. Unironically, not trying to insult you, you are wishing harm on people, say you have mental issues, and then say this.
yeah i think smaller uses of ai would benefit humanity alot
being in a chat with ash while having message logs on is definitely an experience
maybe then companies wouldnt want to give us smart fridges with ai vision so you can see whats inside 
Gemini is the most failed experiment
AI should be used as a tool to make work easier
not something to replace humans
Imagine if Silksong was made with ai
everyone spam this guy with truthnukes lowkenuinely
people dying is bad, but if every single human died, i wouldn't be too upset
what parts of it?
like fully ai or for parts of it?
For now let’s say dialogue and code
Is it 2nd ai discussion on the day?
Hornet talks like an AI close enough
if silksong had a bigger team i wouldnt be suprised if they used copilot, but doubt they did (just saying bigger companies probably use copilot a decent bit)
Where?
game would fall apart, genai is terrible at making code, especially on this large of a scale
we've been offtopic in this channel for like 2 hours we should probably stop
so the game just doesn't work and the writing is worse so it actively affects the overall quality
if silksong was entirely ai generated maybe it would be a good game 
Right
I’m gonna handle your bones bro
I generally don't hate on anyone or wish people to die most times, I am a brute-ish critic on most things, but as ai is becoming a threat in most ways, it pisses me the fuck off more than something ever has before
For coding, I wouldn't mind, but if it's a piece of the graphics or audio it'd be so sad
you should cause AI code absolutely sucks ass
Well, not necessarily
Phew fortunately silksong is actually good
True
i’m sorry i think i lost 2 years off my life typing that out
guys
can a real game be made 100% with AI?
do you know how AI works 
deserved now watch the sopranos
Any programmer could tell you this is an insane concession
good for some stuff i agree, its bad at seeing the full scale of a project, as project size increases less accurate it can be, i guess... idkk how to phrase it
yesterday was its 27th anniversary so watch it in celebration
it works in small parts but even then it has a lots o f issues
it finished downloading i’ll watch the first two episodes maybe today
entire series...?
I mean, AI has uses in coding, like helping find bugs, optimization
can it? yes. Will it be good? absolutely not
for sure, the main use ive seen (albeit fairly inconsistent) is spotting errors like typos, when you have hundreds of lines of code you can see if it spots an error ykwim
programmer here, ai is fine as long as you arent just using it to be lazy
no js season 1
Another concession
Theres some that exist and they suck ass
ai is gonna fucking destroy your code if you are just shoveling shit from it into your program
does anyone actually use rune rage
me
pure vessel
you'll love it also maybe point gir in the right direction because it needs to watch sopranos as well
And for the people that are about to go like fuckin "But they use enemy ai!!", It's different, generative ai is not the same as any enemy ai in game development, it is a bunch of human spaghetti code that runs towards you and harms when it touches ^^^
yes
people need to look at AI code as using stack overflow, you can copy and paste shit but make sure you know how it fucking works, and you need to know how to actually program (people who used stack overflow will understand what i mean)
astig is cheated
steve is contrarian
i'm stubborn
Ok epic will try that tomorrow or like. A week from now heh
Contrarian is also the best voice
Sometimes I do
my personal favorite is cheated because of the razor
Most the time copilot is just ripping shit straight for stack overflow anyway tbh (obviously collects from various sources as well)
I also really came around to Voice of the Broken in ||The Cage||
wait enby tag kinda goes hard
I haven't slept since 8 pm yesterday and it's 2 pm
Hell yeah
I ought to replay that one
guys i did a huge prank yesterday
do we think if lace lived in real life she'd develop an internet addiction and get hooked on brainrot
Sometimes I dip my two year old son in tar and he scream loud as fuuuuckk 😂😂😂
31 year old programmer VIBE CODES the OLD FASHIONED way (MANUALLY GOOGLING STACKOVERFLOW SNIPPETS) 😱 😱
if lace was real she'd develop a nicotine addiction and spend all her hours reading visual novels about lesbians
I love Razor AUGRH
Are you okay
Anyone has the specific interest to rythmical boss such as NKG and Trobbio? I'm on the halfway of SK act 2, what bosses I could expect to enjoy
true
She would use the most outdated grammar and slang that are centuries apart from eachother just to piss off hornet
rhythm. Cogwork dancer
hell no AI is so bad at that 
I was trying one of these and I forgot a single bracket. The AI highlighted an entire different function 😭
Heh . What's stackoverflow
I'm not
Bro you're going to love the cogwork dancers
im not that old, but i feel called out on my freshman year college exprience xD (i was lazy freshman year)
Sleep cycle of a dying meth addict
i feel like hornet would be the one using centuries outdated english but unironically 💀
SK discussion channel is my Groal vent channel. I just can NOT believe team cherry would design a boss that is specifcally made to waste my time...
I'm telling you a kiss in the forehead will make you pass out
lace would type like roxy lalonde
I am also a programmer. AI is fine as long as you aren't overdependend on it and it doesn't suck ass at it's job
Steve aren't you supposed to be dead?
site where people answer programming questions, it’s been around for decades and you can usually find code for any problem you want to solve ever
yeah need to go into cogwork core to get into vaults
Groal would actually be kind of good looking if they took a Fucking shower
Aren’t you worried about ai’s taking jobs for CS majors though?
Ohh, I beat em too. That's really fun with cross stitch
Oh that's really useful actually ty
I mean people go batshit insane when they see ai art but you can’t even tell ai programs apart
Groal punishes you for trying to have fun and it blows my mind
You will love first sinner and karmelita
I went on a picnic yesterday with alot of people and i conncected to the bluetooth speaker before they could and blasted hk boss music and they were so confused and asking everyone who did it
the fourth circle of hell has crazy internet
i see how nkg is rythmical but not trobbio, i could see clockwork dancers being that way
nah people have been saying that for years now. AI is too shitty to be able to do that
They
this is my greatest read on a character ever actually
Cool
Cya there some time
Yeah that's quite an issue
Uhhh karmelita. She solely sets the tempo of the fight its fun
Why did you die
Ref I fucking quit
Its like 30% success rate for me 😭 , maybe be nicer to your ai?
Ai isn't art
Let's go
So you agree that ethics and concessions are a must in order for the proposed hypothetical to work
hell no 😭
I need to rant
First sinner is absolute bullshit
I keep seeing her do 3 ATTACKS AT ONCE
Cause that’s basically what you just said
Well I wouldn’t know because all coding I’ve done was just Roblox Game development and making my website
What if groal’s arena had muckmaggot-tipped spikes in his ascended arena
i forgor
It hollow was real they'd have low blood sugar and intrusive thoughts all the time so have the time it would just be laying on its bed doing nothing
AI ART IS NOT ART BRUH
dude
Roblox 
Amen
the grunts in front of karmelita are not fun at all
AI can not create art
i think it should be like nyleths arena
fr
imagine if every time you fought nkg you had to kill 10 guys beforehand
Look everyone’s had that moment when they were edgy 14 year old
Why are people saying ai art
The term is ai slop
Chat is on a weird pro-ai kick rn
just like me
you cant just make a boss that hard and then make me go through 3 minutes of bullshit every time i die
There is not a single piece of art that was created by an AI. It simply can't do it
Oddly enough i compare the speed increases to a game of tetris
Ai art makes pencilslop obsolete 🙄 get with the times younglings
fr
The longer the game goes, the more it speeds up, and you have to keep up
Just because we dont go "AI IS SATAN" doesnt mean we are praising it like god my god
I’m against ai image generation but is this really necessary
ai slop is a broad genre
ai 'art' is a part of it
or thats how i see it
Hit dog hollering
god forbid we have more then 2 braincells and discuss a topic that is complex
I wasn’t even talking about you
the issue with AI programming is that AI uses a dataset from which it pulls things to create coherent responses. Now AI is also trained to use the most frequent element in the dataset, however msot code sucks online and no code is without flaws. So if you have AI programmers they can't make optimal code or fix bugs on their own
Yes, Trobbio is not that rythmical but somehow you can see a pattern in the fight. I know what he's going to do, the smoke bomb direction is maybe where the RNG is
no
welcome to sk-discussion
sik sog
And the other half would be doing stuff for other people that make it feel like a shell of a person 😂
No
let's talk about the sopranos
Wow its lace from Silksong
never watched it tbh
LOOK AT WHAT THEY NEED TO MIMIC A FRACTION OF OUT POWER!!!!
Can we talk about MLP
lets talk about cory in the house for the nintendo ds
yoo another ibis paint user
Nice drawing!
anything but this shit again
ough she's so pretty
Peak
I have GOt to re-read cucumber whest
w
heres an LL clip
Yup twin
I think you can see how fast stuff will break the more AI code there is in the dataset
at the end they are generative and therefore has hard time deciphering which code is considered optimal; therefore needs human intervention, fair enough
Stawp thank u guys ❤️🩹
Holy peak
Are you waiting
we are the lacelings! feed us!
Are you waiting STILLLLLLL
we are charlie kirk
Fuck no we don't want to become nerds like hk-discussion
Using AI to program or write for you is like wanting to write a book about anthropology and your only source is wikipedia. Like... certainly there are better ways....
when everything you want is gone... When everything you want is gone..!!!
Why are you yelling
i wonder if i could beat quad LLs now... its hard...
Yeah but I like calling ai generated images slop
lets talk about silksong lore
because this shit is so fucking tired and dumb can i go anywhere online without fucking ai cancer """discourse"""
Wikipedia rocks
Sure
I hate first sinner
Definitely don't use it as your sole source when writing a novel about anthropology or anything
no let's talk about the soppranos
i agree for the most part, i just hate when people spew stuff they dont know about, only reason i get sucked into a convo
Hot take
I wonder how food would taste it you used pale oil like vegetable oil
Diabolical
unbased
Quick mods are gone post off-topic GIFs
I'm rarity you're fluttershy who are the others
That's a good thought
is this the mafia
HOLY SHIT
Tony got a lil fruity
Seth should be able to be fought in act 2 im ngl
Job
wtf
Bounce?
itd be cool foreshadowing for nyleth
Yes
Astig is either twilight or rainbow dash. Bon is Pinkie Pie and I think Krill would be apple jack
lets talk about how good cross stitch is
This is the Los Jibbities
what about gir
Guys am in act 2
does that mean what i think it means?
What
fuck cross stitch, talk about how much aura signis and gron have
Hmmmmm it can be rainbow dash and Astig can be twilight
It's act 3 only
Fr, I don't understand why they put him right before nyleth. It's not like that with ckk or karmelita
And Steve can be Starlight Glimmer
four brothers sigma and grok
man these guys are such bums
And Sonia can be uhm Celestia
Please do not refer to crust king khann as that
||made u look||
who the fuck is starlight glimmer i’ve never watched mlp in my life 😭 😭 😭
The best character
What the mobile
let's ot talk about it
true
MB 😭 😭
What game?
Also it’s ckk
Ultrakill Demo
Dude wtf I could have sworn her eyes were teal
actually perfect callout ngl
Ohh
What the SHIT
this game is NOT mobile friendly lolll
Ultrakill is optimized enough to run on mobile?
Yep, I've changed it
cross stitch should 48 damage instead of 64 hear me out

For some reason I can't turn down the auto-aim
For some reason I thought it was krust
It's only the free demo
what
Here’s why I hate first sinner
I have seen the first sinner do 3 attacks all at once, basically becoming undodgeable for me
Actually why do I hate them they have one super annoying attack and that’s about it
Here’s why I dislike first sin-
either a damage nerf or a reduction in parry frames, cant decide which would be better.
Krusty Krab
it was fine before WHY IN THE WORLD DID THEY BUFF IT
finally 100% :D
what image editing software did you use for this 
Which do you think would be better
she can have a pretty nasty attack pattern, in my hitless attempts she was one of the harder bosses
The one called “silksong”
I see
Idonno it has some risk to it, so should do little more damage than other average silk skills
I had a harder time with widow surprisingly
i saw a (presumably) fake skong dlc leak on tiktok the other day it was funny
damage nerf i think, i like damage trade off
I'll have to check that out at some point
Try me biiattcchhhh
3rd phase widow is rough
like what is this??????
people say this but it's so easy to hit
I came here to yell about Groal again. It's not an overdone topic cause it literally is that bad.
i have never had this happen when fighting lost lace
Caninsee
cross stitch is far and away the best silk skill right now
In doing my Witch playthrough I've realized the pogo iframes are way more applicable than I previously thought
groal is a good boss imo.
wtf
her hitbox sometimes is bs
that ain't right...
idk i have a 59 cybergind in brutal
And she LAUGHS like the little SHIT SHE IS
would reducing it's damage really fix it tho?
good for her
lace enabled cheats on your copy of the game I think
A fan of standing and waiting for him to come back up, I see
100%d that game besides brutal p-2 prank
thats so fking stupid
i hit the pogo and bounced up and i still got hit
yeah
think about it
She can pull you from the air
It's bullcrap is what it is
right now cross stitch does 64 while sharpdart does 72
Nah his fight was rather quick honestly, its the gauntlet thats rough.
I can not fight groal or his stupid boss arena without some youtube on
but the same thing i have done on lost lace for like 500 times and it never happened
revert the cross stitch buff and that gap goes from 8 to 20
it takes like a second max wtf are you complaining about
Peak
||nerd||
idk why this keep happening on lace2
that's not normal
i call these grab attacks idk
ngl at this point though I suggest just not trying to pogo her during her ground attacks
thankfully you can two shot his minions if you are fully geared 😎
but the reason cross stitch is godly is the I frames, shouldnt you just make them harder to land or smthn
My ass had needle upgrade 2.... for the nohit
or one shot with needle strike or bombs
it's the i-frames combined with the insane damage
i think the problem is that frozen is hitting her while her hitbox isnt active, but then getting caught in it once it becomes active again
Lace 2 has slightly bigger slash hitbox than LL for some reason intended or not
yikes yea fuck dat then
idfk man
i have been pogoing lost lace all the time and it doesnt work like over half of the time on lace2
level 2 hunters made up for it, three hits to kill at max charge
I like lace's theme
another reason why Reaper Crest is superior…
is that actually a thing
im kinda burnt out of playing skong atm but i love talking about hitless still
i mean yeah that would explain it but its so stupid
from what I’ve seen yeah, probably not intended?
I need to hop back on hk ngl
me !!
Play OFF instead!!!!
I still need to finish radhog and get started on my r1-5 journey
do you wanna see my first sinner nohit
Subnut
sure, always up to see strats
i always forget i played hk on switch
My friend enjoyed HK and actually completed it, but he gave up on skong second boss lmao
r1-4 are very fun gl
so replaying hk would be a very weird experience
“Silksong Hitless discussion” and it’s just 99 percent explaining how dogshit of a boss pintress is
Bell beast?
no
He just say second boss
He would be fine if he had less HP. Getting up and whacking him is gonna have him jump on you so you gotta take it slow and methodical. I think if you take your time it is impossible to struggle with the fight. But sadly I have places to be!

That’s bell beast
I think these are in the right order
true hitless players hate shakra trust xD, mostly meming, idk why but other hitless players i talk to struggle less with shakra then me
sounds like you should be pruning your youtube recommendations
is the AI discussion over?
it's just when i look up silksong osts cause the videos have alot of views
what did you do for her specifically
shakra hitless only took me 22 attempts which was kinda shocking
if you see a video you don't want to see, select the three vertical dots and select "not interested"
Should I use hunter crest or wanderer crest?
Theres also the fucking ai generated covers like the spanish guitar version of laces them. with the most hideous ai thumbnail that looks nothing like lace lol.
omg omg can i share my strats
either
go for it
i think i have needle 2 as well
OHHH MYYY FUCKING GOOODDDD SHUT UP
Is chat still on the pro ai beat
I'm sorry...
Let’s drink water together chat
I don’t think anyone actually is?
?? chill out
let's talk about lace and how cool she is
after I finish this can of coke
normal first sinner gameplay looks weirdly slow to me now
the opposite
since when was chat on a pro ai beat
That’s good
clean fight, im suprised second phase was slower than the first tbh, you played it very safe, and it worked
I like Pepsi and tea
i’m going to have water shot into my mouth by the dentist in a few minutes does that count
You need water
stand still and fricken jump lmfao, wait till she does dive attack or dash attack to hit her
are you at the dentist
yeah 💀
man
oh that's what I did too lol
when shakra is stagged i do 3 hits sharpdart into 1 more hit, it feels the safest imo
If you're stuck on lace in deep docks just know there is a way to blasted steps through shellwood allowing you to talk to lace and skip the lace fight
ngl, dentist is kinda just boring
The biggest enemy in that arena is not groal, it's boredom. How willing are you to stand and wait for him to be in a good position?
Sometimes
were you playing on pantheon of pharloom I hear that she's stupid with that mod
you just have to lay there with your mouth open and do nothing for ages
boring...
i fucking hate dentists
yea, she acts the same imo
I hate people generally
box shades you were right replaying xc3fr was worth it
mostly in regards to her hp values
Yeah i played a lot slower in phase 2 because i didn't really ever learn phase 2's attacks. I beat her after reaching the phase i think just a few times, most of my time on her was spent learning phase one moves honestly.
I like dentists purely because I like having professional confirmation I have no cavities every couple of years
WOO
all the micro optimizations are so fun
ngl my mouth js gets tired from holding it open
its honestly intresting how i look at all the first sinners fights here (and mine) and the all have 1 thing in common, keep your feet on the fucking ground lol
fym sometimes
thoughts on brushing?
ah, shes a bit tanky
brushing is fine, its just going to the dentist
foolish mintslop... i dont know why anyone does it.... /j
sitting there for like 2 hours hoilding my mouth open as they stick shit into it
guys how do i turn off mods in BepinEx?
and spray water and air and drill into my teeth
boring
a
its fucking painful to my ears too
it's one of the things I learned from Grimm, always stay on the ground unless you absolutely have to jump OR if you're fighting something like AbsRad
now THIS would be far more interesting
Go to #1057825333841240104
Heres my voided lugoli with 2 needle upgrades (also no tools) this one was kind of a blast honestly.
i wish we got more lore on aphids in silksong, halfway home's nectar being milked from their teats are cool
lugoli is insanely fun
bugcows
i hated lugoli when i first did hitless but now i enjoy them
lugoli was my first real toolspamming experience and it was hilarious
The interesting thing about void lugoli is they are actually still dangerous when staggered because their void moves still go off regardless of stagger, you can see it a lot in the clip
lugoli was my first 5hp barbed bracelet fight
that's actually bullshit
It's well telegraphed at least, so not too bad
Of course he also does double damage so I can't even just tank the damage. I have to stand and wait until he comes out of the bile, I have to wait until he is a in a good spot so I can hit him, I have to wait for the stupid trap gimmick in the arena... Everything is soooooo infuriatingly boring...
Bilewater would literally be okay if Groal had less HP cause then he'd end up as a lil challenge at the end of a (very bad) arena.
As it stands, it's pretty horrible...
hear is satan from my hitless pan run
Have you tried using silkspear? lets you damage him far more proactively
why do you have to wait for him to be in a good spot, just attack him
pansexual run?
btw i deserved to fucking get hit here
Yes and I use tools when I have downtime
intresting, tbh i havent fought the voided bosses that much
oh no look out
oh right you did hitless pantheon of pharloom I saw someone post it in a server I'm in
shakra's aim was WAY off lmao
how bad was it cause I was lowkey considering doing it after hk r5
where do i find the cylinder for the keeper melody again
man its sad watching these videos and seeing them outclass witch so hard
voided beastfly is just easier, voided moss mothers are funny because they are so easy to cheese in that if you play your cards right the second moss mother never spawns until the first one dies
Why is it a silksong when the song silk not even needolin with widow to grandmother silk?
why do wanderer and hunter have to be so strong
she had a bit too much to drink from halfway home 💔
Beat trobbio then go into the underworks
oh thats funny, i know chomp put it in the anyrad cord, funny its spreading a bit
bottom of vaults, after trobbio
If phantom is defeated the exhaust organ mist wont hinder you
beast is strong too
Cause if he decides to be all the way on the other side of the arena, I jump over he may dive into the water and I can't dodge out of the way. Also his succ can cause issues when I am too close
its less frustrating then r5 imo, its mechanically harder but the bosses are more consistent
Thats how i nohit him, minus the tools honestly found him quite entertaining, the most unpleasant part of nohitting was the gauntlet.
I envy your patience
a attempt of all bosses hitless takes about 45-50 minutes i would say so it is longer
i like being under him so the suck never gives me any issues
The secret bench made it a lot easier to stick with.
Hes one of the harder nohits due to gauntlet
him diving is fair but thats just never happened to me tbh
I slit my finger on one of these
how
It's honestly pretty fun to do replays without any maps (even external ones). Gotta really put my remembery to the test.
i nohit groal on accident while trying to beat him normally
What the fuck?
But he changes height while flying around in idle and that could cause me to fall into bile
Those tins are really sharp for no reason
Pen apple pen meme in this economy??
how so?
so at the bottom there was a cut from where I cut the cheesecake with the knife
And I get rewarded in that I don't have to buy maps.
and then my finger existed near it
he doesnt go low enough to hit you off the platform
ooohhh yeah that makes sense
What cake is that
staying above him is also a good plan and if he crushes you into the ceiling just retreat
I'm still waiting on someone to hitless 112 for hk... someday...
i assumed you cut yourself on the edge where you hold it
cheese-

I thought it was strawberry because of the pink insides
strawberry cheesecake
I actually rather enjoyed unraveled.
this was my hitless groa for example
words i never though i would hear
If I am under him and he is in idle, he changes height. Touching him damages me so if I see it coming I can only really dodge away. If he then decides to attack I can either tank the damage or dash or use fey cloak or whatever to dodge and thats risky cause of the bile
massively overhated ngl
man on the internet is cooking up lyrical covers for lace and cogwork dancers, i hope they release soon
What are the conditions to meet Lace at the road before Blasted Steps? Am I hallucinating? That's a thing, right?
not that bad with cross stitch imo
YES YES YES YES YES
that guy was litrelly a massive white pudding
OH MY GOD I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR THE LACE ONE
I am eebpy at 3 pm
Skip her fight in deep docks via wormways
makes it much easier yeah, lot more fun too
lugoli?
i have trauma from unravelled in hitless, mostly due to my braincells not connected with its ranged attack
I see
when lugoli is trying to position above you, they're trying to do a vertical slam attack
cadaver spit is lurienian that's true
bro and i love lace just frame perfect parry my silk spear and i died cuz i am still in the backload of silkspear
cost me most of my hitless runs 😭
its so fking awesome
You know who i hated so much on hitless i didn't even bother cutting the clip to discord size? watcher at the edge, that boss is so fucking tedious, not even hard just tedious.
@turbid solar what do you think of this groal fight
i have a 1 hit pantheon of pharloom because of unravelled as well, im still salty
yeah the ranged attack isn't too dangerous but it's very easy to get hit by it
wate was so fun on hitless
wate is fun in general
can i see your strategy? i found him rather bland.
unravelled is probably the most exploitable boss when it comes to cross stitch
water
its tedious as fuck, i thankfully learned how to weave in sharpdarts, even then its slow
let me see if i can get my watcher on edge clip its like 40 seconds i think
wate is the only boss where hunter nart really got to shine besides groal for my hitless fights
The optimal strategy i found is just back off, let him attack, dash in and nail art him.
i really liked pushing them into the sand
yeah it's a lot of in and out
I do this but regular hits
i did this with regular hits at first, but felts to slow. could get 2-3 hits in with wanderers per watch attack
Chat what should I listen to while I work on this
Watcher at the Edge, r
lemme cut up my watcher at the edge
constant companions deluxe edition
his runback sucked
Provided to YouTube by IIP-DDS
Une vie à t'aimer · Lorien Testard · Alice Duport-Percier · Victor Borba
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (Original Soundtrack)
℗ Sandfall Interactive under license to Laced Music Ltd t/a Laced Records
Released on: 2025-04-24
Producer: Lorien Testard
Sound Effects: Khai Zen Yap
Sound Effects: Keira McKenna
Mu...
work on what
who up watching they at the edge
i really didnt have any problem with wate at all
sonia put me on this album while I was fighting rad watcher knights and I can't stop listening
crust king khann
Added to list
Nicely done. I admire the fact you had the patience to learn that. Dealing high damage is mandatory clearly cause there is so much randomness and downtime it's making it more risky to be in the arena.
Wait is it the teto one
With the cat paw on the ovver
i was just trying to beat him normally, not hitless or antyhing but i accidentally did it hitless
ye
so i didnt really learn much
YAY
I was always casually into vocaloid but I might be getting a bit more interested now lol
low quality so it uploads faster
This is probably my favorite nohit i recorded, you can tell i was having fun with the little movements im doing at the start in the long fight startup, trying to syncronize with the theme song.
tormented trobbio...
That's great! I would have gotten hit cause I would have rushed in to damage him
After beating first sinner
That fight was fun, the triple attacks were bullshit but i can ignore that
I was actively adapting and speeding up my combat to keep up with first sinner
I know nothing about vocaloid I can just recognize Miku and teto because of the Miku 7 album and the flavor Foley teto song
I fucking HATE tormented trobbio hitless
why do yoyu run away so much 😭
the humble cross stitch:
It would be really cool to make a song with a vocaloid one day though
i dont dash in sync lol
nerves, im ripping clips straight from my hitless pan run
i sadly dont have watcher on the edge clip on hand xD
i love the startup lol, crossttitch trobbio 2 is fun... without it... i hate it
Never noticed Hornet's cloak was particularly flappy in windy areas like steps
I was doing it no tools no silk skills for the first 180 or so attempts and whren I finall cracked I used sharpdart
boring but safe is watchers name
ello chomp
yk its interesting you thought ttrobio was your favorite lol
I should learn to use cross stitch
and wind columns...
no tools no silk skills fucks up quite a few bosses
I think I could have a lot of fun with it
cue pinstress safe strats
hello ash
the reason i didnt do ttrobio was cuz it just didnt have any openings for me to be cool
it makes crawfather genuinely hitlerian
id have to resort to attacking normally and waiting around
ive taken ,like a 3 day sk break
crawfather without sharpdart is impossible anyway
was mine boring? i didnt think mine was boring
imo the hardest boss to consistently or semi consistetly even hitless
Well in the wind columns it Marilyn Monroes and that's easy to notice
those fucking birds
nah yours was fast and cool, but looks scary for hitless stuff for consistency
oh okay you're talking about hitless, NOT just to beat in general?
maybe its more consistant then it looks xD
its super consistent lol
Hes a lot of fun, probably less with cross stitch because theres some unsurviveable instances when his aoes line up wrong but with cs hes a blast. I think there are good openings to cool stuff, but its fun to just dodge his moves normally.
i got two hitless fights really soon after eachother because of how consistent it was
never felt bored with wate
this is basically the strategy
avoid, then hit at the ass end of his attacks
but what about my strategy :(
lemme have a look
fair enough, i need to try out witch sometime, atm im working on shamans so it will be a bit lol
(rdac all the vertical attacks, spogo between slashes, push them into the sandcarvers)
even then your openings are mainly at the end of his attacks
I think I am just gonna get all achievements and then not dive deeper into sk... there is just too much to do. HK was the perfect size and length for me. I'll stick with it I guess....
but it is far more aggressive
trobbio 2 has one of my favorite fast kills (before i started using circlet)
I might lowkey re-do my hitless run now that I'm using keyboard
thats fair, late game silksong takes a while to get too, so feels a bit long for 100% speedrun, takes like 15ish hours (rounding a bit up)
you make trobbio look fun
i have a question, is there situations where trobbio 2 puts you into undodgeable situations without cross stitch?
Is the Strat for trobio 2 to just be super aggressive?
i never had fun at all for trobbio
i should really record a fast trobbio 2 with sharpdart and circlet now curious if i can speed it up morer
I thought my run was rather fun
yours too
for me because im not using cross stitch yes
the sound of ttrobbio destruction is music to my ears
Trobbio doesnt require you to be flashy because he's flashy for you.
no
only you can put yourself into a situation where damage is unavoidable
oh and karmelita can do that too
yep! in my opinion
Yeah that's just too much. And frankly it's so big, I'd be afraid I'd forget something. Any% run is very short from what I hear? I purposefully don't look into tricks and glitches yet cause I want my opinions and experiences to be pure
eh debatable
there are some NASTY fucking trobbio patterns
To me trobbio 2 felt like a dance and a performance, which is why i did so much goofy dancing and choreography in my run
that backstep
fortunately I've never noticed it myself, but holy fuck that shit is NOT fair
there’s also the fact that treobio ignores my beloved iframes
karmelita opening chat and typing in /kill Hornet
sawtooth pogos are so funny to me, they look funny at least xD
im getting the ms paint out real quick
I honestly felt like i made beastfly fun in this run, unfortunatly my winning run doesnt look as clean as some of my failed ones due to some mistakes and a funny bug where beast fly hurts his head where he should have hit me.
sawtooth pogos are way too fun against karmelita
I have some slander for ttrobbio but if I were to say it here I'd be banned
i had fun with beastfly as well but i accidentally killed em and saved
hornet getting her face shredded
say it in the gc
so i couldnt redo my fight
I'm just sad. Silksong is clearly a masterpiece... There is just too much...
Even if I had the drive to get cracked enough to compete, I simply don't have the time...
Beastfly two is a lot more fun when you have double jump and clawline.
it was hitless but i got hit at the end while beastfly was in negative hp
can you even prevent saving after bosses like that?
I DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN AS THE ONLY EL JIBBITY TO SAY SLURS
it's basically the white defender slander anyways
anyway karmelita exemplifies why witch pogo is so strong
act 3 savage beastfly doing void attacks makes it easier to deal with I swear
void attacks are simple to dodge
it does i think
6
and they force it to stall in place
i get hit with a right hook to the jaw from the backstep btw
Hornet is travelling through time and is simultaneously shredding trobbio to pieces AND is right there are that point ofdciousksy
listen I can explain
cuz of course i do
im so ready for what comes at me 😄
getting sucked into an invisible black hole
Why does it send the image before the message 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀
The only boss void attacks made stronger was moss mothers. And moss mothers is either really hard or really easy to nohit depending on if you are good at bullying mm in a way she never spawns her girlfriend until after her death
im gonna do a speed kill with torbbio now i have been inspired
I killed the first one before the second could spawn on my second playthrough
same
you just bully them lmao
Why is your second playthrough italicizsd
if the second one spawns the fight is an agonizing nohit when voided especially without cross stitch, but if she doesnt spawn its just two moss mothers in a row
idk the game was italicized too
i didnt even remember it was double moss mothers on my second playthroguh
cuz i killed the firstg one so fast with witch sawtooth and nuke bind
lmao
I won against Kamelita through sheer luck. Really felt like I didn't actually best her. I need to get better for steel heart... 
its really consistent that you can just kill one before the other spawns, even when voided you can break her ai so she doesnt spawn the other just by being too aggressive.
I think wanderer is best for moss mother 2 because of the fast pogo and the fact that it doesn't require fancy positioning so you can just stick to her like glue
can i share beast and how fun beast pogo is
Glue crest
What’s the best crest for trobbio 2 honestly?
whichever youre good at
I used hunter for my nohit, not sure whats optimal tho
alternate timeline where karmelita stays in the background and throws shit at hornet until she dies
Any works well. Matter of taste
Im excited to learn beast pogo for my next run, platforming might be rough tho
Pesticide
Bet was leaning on wanderer as it’s quick but the damage boost from hunter is real nice
to mimic a fraction of her power
honestly
Don't we already have a boss like that
probably shaman
LETS GOO. Karmelita hitless!!
If you can maintain the focus hunter is incredible, cross stitch is ideal for hunter because of this. Even if it gets nerfed cs will be the best spell for hunter.
...?
1 goat with 2 bums
ggs !!
eggs
Khann
Really? I love shaman so it’s nice to actually use it
...no
which one is the goat, all of these charms catch a lot of strays
so many blocked narts ouch
dashmaster
It’s painful
His whole schtick is to have a massive army protecting him that you have to cut through
khann does not sit in the background and throw things at you from outside of the gameplay area
I wish I had more time to sink into Silksong I need to get good for many reasons... 
that's completely different you're not even fighting him
Just play it in your free time
I've got to stop spending time here and start another HK playthrough
i'm pretty sure the knight with all three of these is still slower than hornet sprinting
That's cus it's an idiot short baby
I can't help but feel like hornet may outpace the knight's super dash
cuz of how fast wanderer is or how much damage hunter deals per attack
cdash grubnote~1
taking into account the fact that the knight is smaller
i don't think so, but if there's a single obstacle on the path, yes
thus is covering less distance
I need to get off my ass and finish chapter 2 but I've got no ideas
per pixel on the screen
Crystal dash vs 1 pebble
i need to get off my ass and go to sleep
I fucking hate having bipolar I have a manic episode one day then I end up crashing and feeling burnt out for a week
Does the pebble have 1 hp
Because it can die.
no but it's 1 pixel higher than the ground you started on
do you guys like seth hitless i think its very fun but not fun at all on other crests
I don't think pebbles have health bars
I barely have any! And there are actually also other games I like and also wanna play!
It's just so frustrating...
Very real
meaning you get blocked by it
so fun
not there yet, have to get through gurr first
That sounds hard I'm sorry :(
I mean, you don't, but sure
seth hitless with hunter is a blast you're gonna love it
you could do him later
I don't have bipolar so idk what a manic episode feels like but being burnt out sucks so much
what are you gonna do
I think it’s fun on most
I forgot Seth's name in a conversation once so now I call him bugman steve
its just chasing and theres nothing interesting until he does the cymbal crash attack
easiest way I can describe it is all my intrusive thoughts sound like great ideas suddenly
that's part of the reason I left the gc all those times
impulse control is non-existent
Yeah I get that, Seth in general is not one of my favorite fights even though everyone seems to love him
I really gotta try witch more, I legit haven’t touched it 😭
try them all out
Yeah that sounds uh really not fun
I keep trying to branch out to other crests like shaman but the wanderer calls me back like the green goblin mask
it really isn't
jts just that i usually find every crest fun
Play wanderer
but not against seth
don't mistake me listing bipolar in my bio as me having pride in it
I don't CARE what Astig says it's the best one
I fucking hate that I have bipolar
heres another stupid trobbio 2 video, im gonna get sub 20 seconds
your gameplay is lowkey perfect evidence for why sharpdart is gas
What blues do you avid Hunter users default to
But I talk about it a lot cus it really defines my life
What kind of ocd?
i think my problem is that witch just can’t neutral attack like wanderer can 😭
this fight low-key sucks for wirch then
snitch pick sawtooth circlet volt filament
fair lmfao, give me normal wanderer swing with witch dash attack
As in I have different obsessions I kind of cycle through
I'm doing better than I was half a year ago
But it was kind of super different then
i cant just sit there and spam neutral attacks lol
I'm glad
I've had OCDs too and I agree they change from time to time
usually i can spam dash attacks or pogos instead but not against trobbio
and that fucking stinks
Sticks
if you really wanna know how unlucky I got with this diagnosis guess what I just read 
idk what i’m gonna do against trobbio ngl
throw stones at him
Cross stitch
normalcy is underrated
How to create emoji here chat?
witch crest with quick sling and pollip pouch
❓
you don't
I meant like to send a art to be a emoji like on #emotes-and-stickers where they also give credits
where do you submit them? uhh... good question
create an emoji
through modmail
How do u change voltvessels into balls
then submit
press C
true
Whats a modmail?
whle sitting at a bench go to voltvessels in your tools, and press whichever button it says to change them
@frosty pelican
Oh
a bot on the server
Oh thanks
Can you get warding bind on Seth?
I don't think he slouches enough
curses! his posture is too good
r
he goes from :| to :(
e
he has some long ass arms
Someone should make an emote of pinstress freaking out when she gets woken up
Sorry wrong channel
fuck
Lol
mmm milk shake
I actually imagine walking backwards and jumping down, on a opposite world
it would be the same experience to those in that world
I should have dash by the time I reach lace right...
Me when i find uh when if ing wihen i gots to bileahnter and fine and i find tgh roal the reat
yes
you need it to access her most of the time
What messed up route did I take lmaoo
I'm pretty sure you can pull off a cocoon skip to access lace
Oh wait I can't get the lever
Guys do you imagine if someone said Guys do you imagine if someone said Guys do you imagine if someone said Guys do you imagine if someone said Guys do you imagine if someone said "respect"
I can imagine
groal :)
need the lever to get into the arena
Hi shaws
where pookie...
Guys im sick rn, what do yall recomend for removing fever
I think it would be funny if from now on nobody spells groals name correctly.
hornet hallucinated her
Tea is pretty good
I can spell droal name correctly
she fell into the lava
she's taking a bath ic ic
What kind of tea?
I love rol the grey
fun fact: rune rage sucking ass was foreshadowed in the first game, because pure vessel's focus attack is the easiest one to dodge
Ginger or chamomile
gandalf the grey, my favourite silksong boss
As well as peppermint
Yep, goal the teit is cool
the holy groil
lmao
Me when i find uh when if ing wihen i gots to bileahnter and fine and i find tgh roal the reat
groal the carpenter
the frong
I can't imagine groal as a carpenter, he'd be inhaling the wood lmfao
Wait
fwrong
the holy groil
(that's the cup of a carpenter)
They look dull
Frog the grog
mods are gonna kill me if i post any more frog gifs
lets talk about our goals the great
I hate making goals
When im bored i go groaling at the groaling alley
My goal is self explanatory
@ancient mortar
is breath of the wild worth playing
botw
(by of the way)
gng what do yall generally use for playing sk, controller or keyboard
Incredible world and exploration, graphics, storys solid, atmosphere is great, combat is not so good. Its main draw is the traversal and exploration.
finding secrets and creative ways to cross past obstacles
controller is way better imo
Keyboard
somehow translated the default keybinds to fit my playstyle
controller is nice
Combat is fun if you like being able to kill things with little pushback but that’s like all the combat is
keyboard
played the first game on keyboard, then silksong suggested controller when I first booted it up so I used that and it's much nicer imo
I found flurry rush to be repetitive. most of the fun in combat is dropping rocks on things, which is fun, but the like basic fighting is really bland.
Keyboard and controller both work but other than first person and rpg games i find controller to be better.
Controller
keyboard for me
Flurry rush is definitely slow if it kills an enemy cus yiu kind of just have to wait for it to end. I personally like the fighting style but I do understand why it would be boring to others
and mouse
elden ring spoiled me on third person melee combat i can't ever go back
honestly just use whichever you prefer
whichever is more comfortable yeah
I should play Elden ring
there's no right or wrong control method
Its good, not as hard as the other souls games if you use sprit summons and such but still a good challenge.
except maybe using the mouse
It’s the one about mold right?
that's kinda fucked up, it's a 2D game with no cursor and you need a lot of buttons
Elden ring? no.
Which do U all thinks is better HK or sk
Sk
Honestly pickled muckmaggot is just a stronger version of casu marzu
Sk if I'll be honest
gameplay wise sk, story and atmosphere, hk probably? id have to look over the plot again to really decide.
Damn I was ready for more HK
I finally got my sharpdart propaganda clip @light swan
silksong is more fun to play
wowo i love stumbling into a boss chamber
silksong is better
it has an extended well made combat system, the areas are really fun to traverse, especially the citadel areas and bilewater, better lore in my opinion and its soundtracks are musical masterpieces
sharpdart 🤩
What’s the full crest setup?
as far as I'm concerned, "atmosphere" here just means desaturated environments 
hk
I just started silksong so I'm confused on how to pogo ples helps
HK
Not really by atmosphere i mean more of the vibes of the world, the feeling of emptyness and ruin.
besides like story where i do prefer ss, most things in hk i just find better
Thx twin
asking me to pick a favorite child
anyways silksong
Damn
my favourite part about silksong is its well made combat system
Same
literally 1984 sharpdart propaganda
Silksongs gameplay is leagues above the first
there's some aspects I prefer with hk but silksong as a complete package captivated me more which is really saying something
But HK has pogo which is fire
fr
I don't have a favorite child
-# (it's you by the way, you're my favorite child)
Wtf
so does silksong
