sk-discussion

[light swan]

lugoli is stupidly fun

[coarse leaf]

another reason why beast is the goat

[marsh spoke]

not ai

[hybrid flare]

No hes not

[marsh spoke]

everyone here knows i'm the #1 karmelita hater

[keen solstice]

Beast is so goated it needs a fucking nerf ASAP

[mortal steppe]

I think DLC has a very good chance to push this over the original for me

[coarse leaf]

i NEED a prime phantom fight

[light swan]

for me he was stupidly fun

[fathom rapids]

How can you not like when they literally throw their ass at you

[strange knot]

I already like sk more than hk

[coarse leaf]

Yeah that’s what I was leaning towards as the flee tool is good but I’m not always at full health so I’m not getting that much of a benefit that often

[coarse leaf]

[mortal steppe]

I think I'm gonna do an updated boss tier list, hold up

[hybrid flare]

shit is instant and is BIG

[keen solstice]

They took seth away from us

[light swan]

dodging and weaving and predicting and luring his attacks is awesome

[coarse leaf]

but yeah

[marsh spoke]

i like silksong gameplay wise more but its never gonna beat og hk in everything else unfortunately

[fathom rapids]

Even better

[velvet cape]

the hell is thats gif

[light swan]

and countering in the small openings before quickly retreating is very fun

[coarse leaf]

i think tc improved visually though

[scarlet trench]

lugoli for conductor 2026

[light swan]

i did it with 5 hp barbed bracelet so i actually had to learn how the boss works and jt was super fun

[night ruin]

Ngl if there aren’t any gauntlets in skong dlc I will feel kinda sad

[marsh spoke]

og hk has the hollow knight which is going to be impossible to top. team cherry is never going to make something as good again and that's fine we all have our peaks and downfalls

[long verge]

Not even artistically?

[night ruin]

Gauntlets add a lot to the game

[fathom rapids]

But come on illusion2
Plasmified zango wich is the Best boss in the game
Is fun aswell

[strange knot]

True

[coarse leaf]

I fully agree with second sentinel being the top, it’s between them and first sinner for me for top boss so far

[night ruin]

Silksong is an improvement on hollow knight in every aspect imo. It’s hard even going back

Especially comparing basegames

[zenith thunder]

clover anywhere not at the very bottom
groal in badly designed
disgusting...

[rancid stag]

in one dlc i hope to see an area with boss corpses strung up and you can use elegy to fight them again
kinda like a dark version of godhome
also kinda like how gurr has enemies stood up in the room next to his arena

[golden karma]

I like pharloom as a setting a lot more than hallownest. idk why. more diverse environments?

[wraith hamlet]

I'm open to opinions but this is my personal list.

[golden karma]

Though, it could really have been a bit more interconnected

[marsh spoke]

even if silksong was absolutely undoubtedly better in everything i would still pick the og hollow knight genuinely just for THK

[keen solstice]

Second sentinel is peak

Unless you fight him with beast crest, he ends up being a joke because you genuinely kill him too fast 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[fathom rapids]

Some enemies in silksong are more complex than actual Hollow knight bosses

[mortal steppe]

I find it very easy to go back to the first game because I've replayed that game more than any other I've ever played

[coarse leaf]

the only thing i really miss on a replay of hk is the atmosphere. hallownest feels a lot more ancient and mysterious

[night ruin]

Better art direction by a long shot

[zenith thunder]

clover dancers above cogwork 💀

[scarlet trench]

putting lost garmond in idc tier is actaully so disrespectful

[light swan]

i have my reasons for groal, i don’t mind clover dancers because they’re still fun despite being disappointing

[mortal steppe]

However Silksong's movement is just objectively better

[long verge]

The only thing I’d say hk has over ss is its soundtrack. Both are amazing but the original game has like half the tracks excluding dlc and still feels more memorable

[earnest drift]

i agree with this actually

[wraith hamlet]

It's just a harder version of it??

[marsh spoke]

also artistically theyre the same for me

[light swan]

top 10 most forgettable bossfights for me LOL

[fathom rapids]

The best boss in the game plasmified zango should be above goated

[mortal steppe]

Like out of everything they did they definitely improved drastically on that

[strange knot]

Hot take: first sinner is overrated

[mortal steppe]

There is also no guaranteed best Crest/Tool combo

[marsh spoke]

i like some things better in one and some things better in the other

[ancient mortar]

Heres my tierlist of SPECIFICALLY how hard each boss was for me on my 1 mask no tools challenge playthrough.

[night ruin]

True. Hallownest really embodies a dead kingdom, whereas pharloom has more thematic hope

[zenith thunder]

"i'm second sentinel but i fly around a lot"
"wow ur shit!"

"I'm cogwork dancers except you can only hit one of me, I have 1 less phase, and I'm in an infinitely worse area"
"peak fight SSS++ tier one of the best in game"

[wraith hamlet]

You're right.

[mortal steppe]

In HK there is an objectively best combo of charms

[long verge]

The knight feels so heavy after going back from silksong

[rocky lotus]

Thats probably because hallownest is completely dead

[coarse leaf]

beastfly deserves at least a d

[earnest drift]

pinstress is very different from second sentinel (i like both fights though)

[marsh spoke]

do you want my difficulty tierlist of my hitless no skills no tools playthrough

[night ruin]

I’ll never forget seeing tc talk about how they changed how aiming works in skong. Was like watching the devil describe his favorite torture method /pos

[ancient mortar]

go for it, since im planning my own eventually

[marsh spoke]

just so you can get an idea of what to expect

[hybrid flare]

Clover dancers is peak still

[zenith thunder]

It's more different than Clover Dancers...

[hybrid flare]

It goes by the principles of cogwork dancers, but make the attack that does nothing do something

[timber beacon]

yeah

[wraith hamlet]

Also as I said this is how much I enjoyed the bosses.

[fathom rapids]

Whats "/pos"

[strange knot]

Should I play sk rn?

[ancient mortar]

Also if i could include forum as a boss it would be S++ tier

[wraith hamlet]

Everyone has their own opinion.

[scarlet trench]

it was such a sad fight for me its not sbout the difficulty cuz it was an easy boss but the fact garmond was a noble hero and he was doing the same thing u were and he was slowly getting more tired as u progressed into act 3 and then finally u fight him while he still has some shreds of consciousness and then after u do zaza stays by him to starve an die along side him alot of bosses imo also need lore and context put into them cuz just the fight doesnt make the boss

tldr: the fight is importsnt but the lore makes the fight

[ancient mortar]

Tone indicator to say you are being positive basically. Essentially its saying they mean what they are saying in a positive way

[night ruin]

Yeah nothing wrong with that I was just adding to the conversation

[fathom rapids]

Ah thanks

[long verge]

Team cherry summoned the spirit of Pythagoras to make those driznits I swear

[light swan]

i think garmond deserves to live but i’d be happy if someone else died in his place

[light swan]

sherma is my top pick

[night ruin]

Ty I totally missed the question

[fathom rapids]

Sherma

[scarlet trench]

elderbug

[wraith hamlet]

Ranking every enemy sounds stupid as fuck😭

[fathom rapids]

Death to that fuck ass kid

[long verge]

One sneak in the top 5

[strange knot]

Do you consider all gauntlets for khann

[marsh spoke]

khann was with coral tower thats why he's top 1

[light swan]

sentinel is so hard to nohit it’s awesome

[rocky lotus]

Imagine this gif but its zango instead of sherma

[scarlet trench]

every enemy in f tier except the fat moss creatures those r s tier

[marsh spoke]

yes

[night ruin]

Objective ranking in general is just kind of a silly way to spend your time but hey it has it’s worth as a conversation starter

[ancient mortar]

Second sentinel Has gotta be a lot harder with no cross stitch

[long verge]

Chalamet best enemy

[fathom rapids]

HOW DARE YOU EVEN IMAGINE THAT HORROR

[marsh spoke]

i agree also them not getting immediately melted makes the fight actually happen and its peak

[wary raptor]

YO IM GENIUS

[wraith hamlet]

I'll get to work then

[earnest drift]

can someone write something like this but with pilby dying pls

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/second-sentinel-ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-gif-14144986572548286793

[coarse leaf]

Can we kill whoever wrote that?

[marsh spoke]

second sentinel went from a boss i dont give a shit about to my second favourite fight gameplay wise

[fathom rapids]

No

[wary raptor]

IM SO HAPPY I WATCHED THE LORE VIDEO

[earnest drift]

wait why doesn't it work

[wraith hamlet]

Love this boss.

[light swan]

second sentinel was always cool to me but just got so much funner

[fathom rapids]

You could ask Steve jobless himself

[scarlet trench]

y was king kahn in top 5 hardest im not shitting on it just asking what was difficult for u to put him there

[light swan]

clawline iframes

[night ruin]

This was written by that kid who likes to put house flies in the microwave and watch them pop

[strange knot]

Iframes from dash slash ig

[marsh spoke]

entirety of coral tower

[rocky lotus]

Second sentinel is underrated fr

[earnest drift]

the iframes stop cross stitch from working?

[long verge]

petition to make the parry window 2 minutes and 44 seconds

[light swan]

nohitting genuinely made me realize sentinel was the bossfight for me

[marsh spoke]

i did coral tower hitless alongside him yes i have a video of it im not pulling that out of my ass

[fathom rapids]

Underrated?
I thought everyone loved the thing heck even i do

[light swan]

i dont get hit so cross stitch doesnt activate

[rocky lotus]

Im saying as a boss fight

[rocky jolt]

second sentinel is an average boss

[fathom rapids]

Still no?

[night ruin]

You don’t have a parry clause ? Strict ahh nuzlocke

[keen solstice]

No cross stitch second sentinel
https://youtu.be/J41VQXGJ-Yw?si=rhSFo-rAi_-424hU

[ancient mortar]

I meant for nohits

[digital hazel]

I keep forgetting about clawline

[ancient mortar]

facetanking anything is possible

[coarse leaf]

petition to add fleas to ultrakill

[keen solstice]

Ah fair

[hybrid flare]

#Tierlist-discussion

[scarlet trench]

personally the fight itself wasnt too hard but ye gaunlet was kinda tough

[ancient mortar]

Secsen has some hard to dodge attacks without cross stitch

[light swan]

can i share mine too

[opaque sigil]

Useful blood bags

[marsh spoke]

the fight itself is absolutely terrifying hitless

[fathom rapids]

No you cannot

[night ruin]

It’s this or people complaining about shipping

[digital hazel]

My personal list.

[marsh spoke]

he can pull out the Khann Jump and the Khann Punch and its also at the end of the entirety of coral tower

[scarlet trench]

too slow wheres fles brew and flint slate

[ancient mortar]

Cross stitch never fails to look cool as fuck. Its a little busted but i love it

[coarse leaf]

we are 98% fluff and 2% flea brew unfortunately

[fathom rapids]

YES FINALLY
You just made me so happy

[ancient mortar]

How do clawline iframes work again?

[weary hatch]

Get ur ass to fighting karm and first sinnerNOW ur missing out

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/curb-stomp-goofy-ahh-chichawaga-is-this-the-first-meme-of-2024-brody-gif-7050385004164251020

[agile cipher]

Now that i got double jump, i want to see just how much you can do without entering act 2
Which means i'll do bilewater with needle 2
Wish me luck

[coarse leaf]

shikawaka!

[marsh spoke]

why the fuck is moss mother at top 2

[strange knot]

Gl

[digital hazel]

I cannot bring myself to fight Garmond

[ancient mortar]

I think its a no red tools challenge

[night ruin]

Good first boss

[scarlet trench]

that would make sense

[bronze spruce]

I hate when this happens haha lol

[strange knot]

Moss mother is good start boss but def not top 10.

[scarlet trench]

moss mother the sequel was even better

[marsh spoke]

i meaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[night ruin]

Something needs to be a first boss. Cant shit on it for being forced to play the role.

[light swan]

i’d prefer attacking than spending time popping a flea brew flintslate

flea brew is also useless here cuz never do i do more than 1 neutral attack in a row

[rocky lotus]

Yes

[ancient mortar]

How do you trigger the broodmother quest btw?

[marsh spoke]

savage beastfly wouldve been a better first boss honestly

[strange knot]

Moss mother taunt only is harder than itemless karmelita

[night ruin]

Youre insane

I’m calling the police

[scarlet trench]

having last judge at f bro y i gotta know

[rocky jolt]

do you want to make out with moss mother

[digital hazel]

Not what it means by "Warranted difficulty." It means it's decently difficult for when you're supposed to fight it.

[marsh spoke]

you would think i'm ragebaiting with that take but no i think savage beastfly should be the baseline for all difficulty

[rocky lotus]

No

[ancient mortar]

Thats like putting first time souls players through iudex gundyr lol

[night ruin]

What does that do to improve the game

[marsh spoke]

just like tweak its hp a bit and make the summons not as evil and its genuinely fine

[fathom rapids]

Sr fungus.....

[light swan]

i used rings for shakra tho

[fathom rapids]

Come on....

[rocky lotus]

What

[night ruin]

Oh if we’re talking with tweaks then I guess I can see what you mean

[digital hazel]

I got an insane skill issue

[marsh spoke]

like yeah dont just take the fight as is and put it there LOL i shouldve started with that

[fathom rapids]

you know the reason of my dissaproval

[coarse leaf]

hopefully they pay me more than 2 rosaries today. im saving up for a vacation to verdania

[marsh spoke]

the summons as they are would be terrible for new players and also the hp is on the bigger side

[ancient mortar]

Perfect thematically tbf.

[ancient mortar]

Heres my notools no spells one, Doesnt change much as i didn't cross stitch much in the original fight, not sure if its as cool as the other clip. Shakras a blast to nohit honestly.

[rocky lotus]

If you love zango so much why dont you just marry him

[marsh spoke]

like, 250 hp and easier summon beastfly would be a good first boss

[light swan]

seth karm and sentinel are my favorites to nohit

[marsh spoke]

maybe 300 hp

[light swan]

seth less so but still fun

[marsh spoke]

moss mother IMO is just kinda whatever really

[strange knot]

The only boss I no hitted so far is moss mother😭

[fathom rapids]

Fool, im already zangos wife

[ancient mortar]

Honestly for nohits the hardest part is the fuckng gauntlets.

[marsh spoke]

its only really funny when your younger brother dies to moss mother or something other than that its got like 1 attack

[light swan]

can i share this i got a new hitless video before vacation and i dont thk n anyone saw

[ancient mortar]

Bosses like shakra and first sinner are great because it's so satisfying to keep pace with them.

[marsh spoke]

and yeah its the first boss but i dont think it needs to be stupid easy just cause

also you fight it again 2 times and it sucks both times

[atomic prairie]

not gonna lie, hornet looks very cute when she use thread storm.

[fathom rapids]

Hu

[ancient mortar]

First beastflies summons arent so bad honestly. You can deal with them easily just by baiting him into crushing them

[night ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-brandon-black-face-rotoscoped-gif-24481958

[ancient mortar]

I think its the most fun part of the fight to use him as a weapon

[marsh spoke]

i'm talking about hypothetically making him the very first boss

his summons as they are right now are like

[rancid stag]

dr. zed from borderlands halloween dlc on the right?

[marsh spoke]

fine ish

[meager saddle]

where is dlc, 2026 is here

[marsh spoke]

beastflies are the best, vicious carapids are fine and i disagree with the spike dudes being there

[rancid stag]

most likely june

[marsh spoke]

in second beastfly tarmites are dogshit and unfun btw

[strange knot]

@marsh spoke I’m really struggling to no hit 1st wave of 2nd ct gauntlet. Can you give me some tips

[fathom rapids]

Idk if you knew but Team cherry had too much fun making sea of sorrow they're making it its own game

[marsh spoke]

first wave is 2 alitas right

[strange knot]

Yes

[marsh spoke]

are you still using witch

[strange knot]

Might change to Hunter

[marsh spoke]

if you do it gets a lot easier because you can one shot the first one with a nail art

but like in general the first part of ct2 is a bit iffy unless youre cracked and kill both alitas before everything else spawns

[strange knot]

I’m one shotting one with bind anyway

[graceful oyster]

#hk-discussion message
I was digging through my old messages and came across an astigmatism cameo way back when

[marsh spoke]

most of the time youre gonna have 1 survivor running around. You dont want to focus on that guy you want to focus on the fliers and everyone else first

[ancient mortar]

You guys might kill me for this but pinstress is the cutest character in silksong, have you seen the little wave she gives hornet whenever hornet leaves her house? its very adorable, and contrasts her kinda being cold and telling hornet to leave her alone. She reminds me of oro where she does care just doesnt show it.

[marsh spoke]

oh god 2022 astigmatism

[graceful oyster]

I wonder how many other people here I don't remember interacting with

[marsh spoke]

let's see what shit i was on back then

[coarse leaf]

awoo

[fathom rapids]

Youre loved flea

[ancient mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/729490781978755113.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=fleapetting

Fleas are cuter than grubs

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-flea-flea-silksong-silly-gif-10894086772590949955

[strange knot]

Agreed

[coarse leaf]

i love everybug ❤️

[rancid stag]

flea i haven't seen you since last ye-
(gets absolutely demolished by a torgue established rocket launcher from borderlands 2)

[digital hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874618617629642753/1426010262535671900/image0.gif

[marsh spoke]

fascinating i was saying things

[candid kayak]

the clock strikes midnight and you say "see you guys next year"

[ancient mortar]

Does anyone here know how to make a gif for discord?

[quick cedar]

Clock strikes 12 midnight arrives

[fathom rapids]

How about every fruit

[strange knot]

Oh shit, I didn’t do these kind of jokes today. Didn’t see you since last year

[candid kayak]

same way you'd make a gif not for discord, I guess

[quick cedar]

Last shower of 2024 guys

[candid kayak]

followed by sending that gif on discord

[rancid stag]

hu-

[fathom rapids]

You have to hack discord itself

[rustic pagoda]

does someone want a karmelita no brain build?

[marsh spoke]

its gonna be wanderer cross stitch isnt it

[strange knot]

Architect, cogflies tacks and curvesickle

[rustic pagoda]

nope

[fathom rapids]

I was thinking just that

[candid kayak]

step 1: make or acquire a .gif file

[ancient mortar]

Any architect build really.

[candid kayak]

step 2: send the file

[fathom rapids]

Thats very mean awesomespore:(

[strange knot]

Drillitect and needletect?

[candid kayak]

step 3 (optional): add the gif to your favorites

[rustic pagoda]

wanderer multibinder injector band druid eyes face tank

[marsh spoke]

what are you trying to turn into a gif

[candid kayak]

yeah

[wraith hamlet]

This is the worst one yet

[marsh spoke]

booooooooooooooooooooooooooring

[rustic pagoda]

works tho

[graceful oyster]

Should I make cherry or blue raspberry slushies for new years

[ancient mortar]

bro dislikes a lotta enemies

[marsh spoke]

cherry

[fathom rapids]

Finally, someone who dosent put zango at the lowest tier
Must be my birthday

[mortal steppe]

Left is my personal opinion of the bosses, right is how difficult I found them on 2 playthroughs

[graceful oyster]

Of note: pure red 40

[candid kayak]

that reminds me of this achievement icon I saved a long time ago

[graceful oyster]

Tastes great though

[candid kayak]

Ball.

[split cape]

Bro got folded by a dead kids persona

[fathom rapids]

How dare you call the Best boss in the game plasmified zango an absolute joke

[mortal steppe]

He's both not good and very easy

[candid kayak]

joke = funny = good

[split cape]

Peppino what did they do to you

[fathom rapids]

Lies

[wraith hamlet]

I should rate HK bosses.

[mortal steppe]

Lost Lace is by far the hardest fight in the game for me, even beating her the second time today still took me 6 tries

[candid kayak]

wha

[mortal steppe]

She was also one of only 2 bosses to take me more than 10 attempts the first time, Karmelita the other

[scarlet zenith]

looks like a retextured watermelon

[strange knot]

Rate this build

[wraith hamlet]

NOOOOOOOOOO dies

[fathom rapids]

Ew sawthooth

[split cape]

I guess bro

[mortal steppe]

No boss in this game challenged me like Pure Vessel and NKG did in the first, but that's probably because I just got better at gaming over the years

Not a flex, just an observation

[strange knot]

Pure vessel is easier than Karm and ll, Seth

[split cape]

If silksong has no lore why does it have a lore channel

[marsh spoke]

no i think pv is harder than anything in this game

[young saffron]

Hornet what's up

[rustic pagoda]

will work better than most shaman builds

[mortal steppe]

Oh right now for sure

[empty flume]

I had a dream last night that Silksong godhome DLC was announced

[rancid stag]

the sky

[marsh spoke]

karmelita and maybe lost lace are right below though

[mortal steppe]

Karmelita at least

[fathom rapids]

So we can make up the lore

[mortal steppe]

Karmelita is just plain tough no matter how you slice it

Pure Vessel I can do on radiant with my eyes closed on a good day

[errant orchid]

them back steps

[mortal steppe]

(Not really, that's of course impossible)

[fathom rapids]

In 2030 for sure

[graceful oyster]

Practice Karm as much as you've done PV and it'll be easier I promise

[mortal steppe]

That's the issue, I cannot

[strange knot]

I find pv radiant way easier than base Karm

[mortal steppe]

No Godhome equiv

[graceful oyster]

Mods

[mortal steppe]

I heard the mods can break your save files

[graceful oyster]

Just make copies

[split cape]

They come with included saves lmao

[marsh spoke]

the only """"harder"""" thing about karmelita is the shit ive been complaining about since the incident

[mortal steppe]

Is that right

[strange knot]

I’m using mods for a while and nothing happened with my files

[fathom rapids]

Even if it didnt, before you mod you should always make backups of your saves

[marsh spoke]

i feel like everyone knows what i'm going to say about karmelita so like

[graceful oyster]

yeah no you're clear

[marsh spoke]

if you dont know? figure it out

[mortal steppe]

Ok here's a question, do these mods give you all your powers and full masks

[marsh spoke]

if you know? i fw you youre awesome

[tawny palm]

what happens if i have overdose and muck maggots at the same time

[mortal steppe]

Or just what you start the game with on a new file

[graceful oyster]

Panth of Pharloom gives you customizability

Also gives you bindings and preset pantheons if you want

[young saffron]

How big are we expecting the dlc to be?

[fathom rapids]

The godhome mod gives you a savefile 100% AND it tells you where to put it

[glacial kelp]

i heard astig was the 1# karm fan

[marsh spoke]

3ish areas probably

So true! I love Karmelita!

[strange knot]

2 new areas, 4 new tools, 1 crest, 3 bosses

[glacial kelp]

nappy yew nears to the non na people

[hybrid flare]

Where is my act 3 fix

[graceful oyster]

I highly recommend Pantheon of Pharloom it's an incredible mod that has everything you need for boss refights, my only complaint is it doesn't have gauntlets

[worldly umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/new-year-gif-27326639

[marsh spoke]

only reason i dont use pop is cause i like doing the stuff in between too really

[fathom rapids]

Can it lauch bosses seperatly like the godhome mod?

[strange knot]

Pantheon of pharloom has some bugs for me. Maybe it’s something with my setup

[graceful oyster]

What does this mean

[marsh spoke]

its a good breather from boss fight to boss fight to even js walk to the next one

[wraith hamlet]

Chat you are about to see the best ranking of all time.

[fathom rapids]

If i want to only fight GMS can i do that

[graceful oyster]

Yes

[fathom rapids]

Nice

[rancid stag]

ZOTE!!!

[rancid stag]

NOOOOO

[fathom rapids]

Fuck ass zote

[wraith hamlet]

This is not cannon.

[marsh spoke]

thk in b everyone hates me and is out to get me

[fathom rapids]

Denial

[hybrid flare]

Radiance overrated

[near cairn]

hollow

[real leaf]

nah

[wraith hamlet]

I love rad.

[hybrid flare]

Could tell

[wraith hamlet]

Genuinely wanted to jump off the first time I fought abs rad.

[pallid plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/wave-to-me-bear-wave-hi-hello-gif-15788266

[native canyon]

if you would all please consult the board

[fathom rapids]

Zango
At
F

[wraith hamlet]

This sucks.

[fathom rapids]

Fuck my life

[marsh spoke]

ll above pv just shoot me

[wraith hamlet]

Why is zote all the way at the bottom

[fathom rapids]

Where it belongs

[marsh spoke]

utter woke nonesense

[ancient mortar]

How do clawline iframes work

[native canyon]

do you hate me and want me to die

[marsh spoke]

no im just a contrarian

[wraith hamlet]

The poor flea

[hybrid flare]

Valid take lowkey

Pv glaze is out of hand

[native canyon]

I think it's like the second hit functions identically to a pogo so I guess like 20 i-frames cause that's what the standard seems to be

[rocky lotus]

its all valid tho

[native canyon]

I mean it's top 2 instead of top 1 on my list so this isn't saying much

maybe when I do r4 and r5 I'll gain a new appreciation for pure vessel and it becomes top 1 again

[weary hatch]

Not this jumpscare of a tierlist again

[fathom rapids]

I know
Zango is in F
What monstrusity

[rocky lotus]

F stands for fun

[fathom rapids]

Oh

[deft summit]

i will eat the sun chat

[fathom rapids]

Damn

[rocky lotus]

and S stands for Shit

[native canyon]

f stands for fucking stupid

[fathom rapids]

HOW DARE YOU

[wraith hamlet]

...

[fathom rapids]

In gonna be sick...

[strange knot]

[worldly valve]

f stands for fuckin' zango

[fathom rapids]

Now that i'll do

[pliant musk]

SILKSONG TOMMOROW

[worldly valve]

brother

[deft summit]

brother please be real

[worldly valve]

bro is 4 months late 😭

[pliant musk]

i meant the sea of sorrow

dlc

[slate locust]

"coming 2026" doesn't necessarily mean Jan 1

[wraith hamlet]

This u?

[full rune]

overdone joke

[pliant musk]

this is a joke

son

[digital hazel]

JANUARY 1 1/2

[slate locust]

sure is

[rose glen]

What if team cherry actually adds zote as the 3rd playable character from their kickstarter

[fathom rapids]

I would pirate that game

[worldly valve]

it's a little weird to pull up the one picture where she gets molested

[fathom rapids]

I hate zote

[full rune]

January 5.5

[rose glen]

we share the same mindset

[spare dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/arson-gif-1306326127125750170

[wraith hamlet]

Zote is goated

[worldly umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/zote-the-mighty-hollow-knight-theres-so-much-ted-zote-gif-11485464035912248894

[fathom rapids]

Fuck no

[full rune]

for news years i'm taking away everyone's image perms for a year

[coarse leaf]

zoted

[coarse leaf]

[jolly bridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1228468065633570967/1416962383791919126/togif_20.gif

[worldly umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845042843147698177/1382921039574597762/lerolero-2x.gif

[wraith hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/save-saved-image-saving-file-gif-3667455389443010223

[foggy fossil]

please do

[marsh spoke]

survival insticts of a steak

[worldly umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1454478745867124777/dessjevilpov-ezgif.com-added-text.gif

[wraith hamlet]

Please don't.

[fathom rapids]

The wheel said no, better luck next year!

[pallid plinth]

I see the pin zal, we not letting diddy in chat

[spare dagger]

When it be new year let spam memes

[worldly valve]

timezones

[marsh spoke]

"i'm going to take your embed perms away"
posts more embeds

[worldly umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1454225219467083827/olivercat.gif

[mortal steppe]

Alright I installed Pantheon of Pharloom, says there's a save file that's 100% included in the download

I believe I have found it, just trying to figure out where to put it

[wraith hamlet]

U on windows?

[mortal steppe]

Yes

[wraith hamlet]

I got u.

[worldly valve]

%appdata%/ locallow/(i'm pretty sure, if not check the other 2 folders)/team cherry/silksong/

[wraith hamlet]

C:/Users/yoname/AppData/LocalLow/Team Cherry/(Random numbers)/

[worldly valve]

6118

[fathom rapids]

Tho of you already have an save in that slot you could loose it

[wraith hamlet]

All your saves should be here just drag the one you downloaded.

[fathom rapids]

So make backups of every save just in case

[wraith hamlet]

You don't have to.

[mortal steppe]

I have one save in slot #1

That's it

[worldly valve]

or don't and wing it like al of us

[wraith hamlet]

Yeah almost lost my steel soul safe

[mortal steppe]

So it's fine that I have a save in slot #1 and nowhere else

This one says user3, I am guessing it is going in slot #3

[wraith hamlet]

Yeah.

[worldly umbra]

"alright i finished silksong and got 100%! ima do steel soul later" now its 2026 and im still not on steel soul

[fathom rapids]

No but its reccomended to backup your saves no matter The mod

[violet path]

why ping

[mortal steppe]

How do you do this again

[wraith hamlet]

just make a copy of the numbers folder and you are gonna be fine.

[fathom rapids]

The ones that say user1 just select them and copy them

And paste them where you want and BOOM
youve done backups of your save

[mortal steppe]

So take all of these and make a folder and put them in there?

[fathom rapids]

Nonono

Copy them

Then put them in a folder or where you want

[wraith hamlet]

ALSO COPY THE RESTORE POINTS

[mortal steppe]

That's what I just asked lol

[fathom rapids]

Ah then ye

[mortal steppe]

So copy them, make a folder (let's say in the same folder they're already in), and then just paste them in there

Plus restore points?

[violet path]

howdy

[fathom rapids]

Ive never copied restored points but sure

[wraith hamlet]

Pop them into documents it's safe there.

[pallid plinth]

howdy

[wraith hamlet]

I did.

[mortal steppe]

Alright

[violet path]

hru

[pallid plinth]

Sad that this year is ending 🙁

[violet path]

samee

[fathom rapids]

What would you want those for?

[wraith hamlet]

So yeah make sure to copy everything that has a 1.

[violet path]

and happy though

[wraith hamlet]

Just incase.

[pallid plinth]

I feel nothing has changed since 2020 its been a blur

[violet path]

this year kicked my ass

i do miss this channel though and all yall

[pallid plinth]

WE WILL MAKE IT

[wraith hamlet]

Better be safe then sorry.

[pallid plinth]

2021... i mean 22 i mean... 23 i mean 24... 2025...? nah 2026 is the year

[mortal steppe]

So this is fine I'm assuming

The original ones are still in the numbered folder

[violet path]

yes!

[wraith hamlet]

Perfect.

[wary raptor]

side swing wanderer’s flea juggle but only to 12 because i don’t wanna commit to it and its hard👍

[fathom rapids]

Contratulations! Now you know how to make back ups of any save

If you ever want more saves theres a mod called "more saves" lol
It allows you to have up to 100 saves

[mortal steppe]

So if for whatever reason my current one gets corrupted, I just replace them with those backup ones?

[fathom rapids]

Indeed

[mortal steppe]

Seems pretty straightforward

[earnest drift]

does shaman needle strike have close to the same range as dash slash from hollow knight

[mortal steppe]

Thanks, I'll see if this all works

[marsh spoke]

ts a pogo juggle from this perspective

[wraith hamlet]

I think it's a bit shorter.

[marsh spoke]

Get it because the side slash looks like its downwards I am so fuinny

[wary raptor]

i dkn’t get it😢

[earnest drift]

ok so i get why needle strike can feel underwhelming compared to nail arts because dash slash's range makes it the most useful one

however i think stacking with all needle dmg buffs is more important

[marsh spoke]

not really

needle buffs also buff needle

which doesnt matter for bracelet sure

but for flintslate it does a lot because flintslate is on a timer

and the taunt damage buff is so time consuming its just not even owrth doing

[earnest drift]

that is true

and hunter focus?

[marsh spoke]

hunter focus is in the same boat as bracelet but its only on a singular crest

[earnest drift]

beast fury is also on a timer

[marsh spoke]

hunter nart is the best one for this reason

yeah

[graceful oyster]

Multibinder is objectively good because it's good on Witch

[wraith hamlet]

It's also good in bilewater.

[graceful oyster]

I wish more people knew the common quips and memes and tropes that people do and took less things literally, this chat is so dry

[marsh spoke]

one day after all the dlcs are out

and then theyre gonna put out the third game and we're gonna go right back

[graceful oyster]

Sigh

[wraith hamlet]

Repeating cycle.

[graceful oyster]

Rain World

[graceful oyster]

Like how did I go on a whole brutally sarcastic rant about Pollip Pouch this morning and have NO ONE get the irony except for Gir

[ancient mortar]

I madee my gif

[earnest drift]

cute

[graceful oyster]

And even after Gir posted the copypasta people still thought it was real

[ancient mortar]

I love that she waves goodbye

[marsh spoke]

hey i was there too

[graceful oyster]

It's the opposite of Tom's Witch gif where now we get to wonder why it goes black instead of white

[ancient mortar]

Its because she only starts this anim when hornets leaving the room, so the scene transition covers it

[graceful oyster]

There is a Pinterest gif that doesn't have the fade

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-pinstress-waving-see-ya-gif-15859769634424072620

[foggy fossil]

silksong fans vs jokes

[earnest drift]

you know what's a joke

pablo

[ancient mortar]

Oh damn yeah i was just testing it to get a clip without the fade, seems someone beat me to it. Looks like you can stop just short of the transition

[wraith hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-primal-aspid-terminated-boss-prototype-gif-16096096733080493579

[marsh spoke]

i think its funnier with the fade

[full rune]

THE LOW TAPER FADE

[devout pebble]

Happy new year 💖🙏🪷

[graceful oyster]

I mean me too but it's just visually annoying when a gif has a sharp restart like that

[marsh spoke]

idk if they make those discord gifs that stop gifing at the last frame anymore i think thatd make it quite funny

[graceful oyster]

One short wave and then it's just black lol

[rancid stag]

hi zal

[graceful oyster]

Yeah you can make gifs stop after one play

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/804491292897574944/1093521432836841575/tumblr_31da85bcba2b63299dd8c27a77fa42da_4cd204ed_250-1.gif

[golden karma]

Beautiful

[wraith hamlet]

Peak gif.

[broken seal]

Wait send the copypasta

[fathom rapids]

You mean.....it isnt a real game....? :(

[graceful oyster]

Mods please don't kill me it's funny I swear

[earnest drift]

who tf names a game after the protagonist anyway

[ancient mortar]

alr i fixed mine

[graceful oyster]

Pollip Pouch is the best Blue Tool in the game.
Not even that, it's the best Tool in the entire game. You can get it so early on into act 1 which makes otherwise impossible bosses like Sister Splinter and Widow possible. I already use Red Tools the most as a damage dealing mechanic, but Pollip Pouch makes it SO much better. You are guaranteed a hefty amount of damage when you use Red Tools already, because of Tools like the Cog Flies and the Cogwork Wheel, but adding Pollip Pouch to this makes those Red Tools even more powerful and OP.
I need to go into detail about the Cog Flies actually. The Cog Flies alone you are guaranteed 50 damage when you use them.
That's
50
FUCKING
DAMAGE!
They also aim for you meaning that you don't even have to think about damage when you use them, you just get it for free. But when you add Pollip Pouch? You get EXTRA DAMAGE, all for free, and the damage isn't even limited to when you get a hit with the Cog Flies only because you get MORE DAMAGE from the poison. And so if you have all of your Cog Flies out at once, it's super powerful and can make bosses die in much less time than without it.
I thought that Team Cherry was done making broken charms and tools. I mean, they had already made Sharp Shadow which is free damage just for doing the simplest mechanic in the game: DASHING! But Pollip Pouch does even more free damage and you don't even have to move! It's the best tool in the game and adds to the best damage dealer in the whole game too!
I
LOVE
POLLUP POUCH! 💜

[marsh spoke]

js screenshot the text

[full rune]

TLDR: reaper crest is the best

[graceful oyster]

Good to know for the future

[marsh spoke]

this takes marginally less space and is moderator approved probably idk

[fathom rapids]

The zango copypasta is better anyways...

[broken seal]

😭😭

[wraith hamlet]

Sharp shadow only shines against PV.

[marsh spoke]

doesnt

[earnest drift]

how

[graceful oyster]

I love this one! Nice job

[marsh spoke]

you shouldnt be shade dashing through pv

[wraith hamlet]

That's not the point.

[undone gate]

Both Sister Splitter amd Widow are nowhere close to impossible

[marsh spoke]

well it is the point aint it

[earnest drift]

does shade dash take longer to replenish with sharp shadow since the dash is longer

[wraith hamlet]

The point is your shadow dash is longer it's easier to doge some of his attacks.

[broken seal]

💔

[marsh spoke]

not really?

[graceful oyster]

Astig don't get into sharp Shadow discourse it's not worth it

[undone gate]

Sharp Shadow isin't that good of a charm the damage is so long and the extra dash length is not that useful

[graceful oyster]

Tale as old as time song as old as rhyme

[marsh spoke]

please i want to feel something again

let me have this

[golden karma]

Sharp shadow is Good.

[graceful oyster]

Whatever

[broken seal]

Pollip pouch is good (for tool only)

[earnest drift]

pure vessel is just a better traitor lord

[graceful oyster]

I'm leaving anyway

[golden karma]

This is fine whereas I get muted for 2 hours for a zango shitpost. This server is CORRUPT.

[marsh spoke]

cya

[broken seal]

💀

[marsh spoke]

on second thought i cant be assed to argue

[wraith hamlet]

Corrupt government.

[broken seal]

Send the zango one (take a screenshot of the text so it doesn't flood)

[marsh spoke]

i'll just listen to this song and hit the hay or some shit

[earnest drift]

i actually used sharp shadow + dashmaster to radiant traitor lord
because it's the shade cloak bossfight

[full rune]

i would if you recommended good music

[wraith hamlet]

Sharp shadow is also good for watcher knights tbh.

[earnest drift]

nah, watcher knights get descending dark and flukenest

[marsh spoke]

wdym like do you want the song im listening to

[golden karma]

It isn't gonna fit in 1 image on this phone screen just search for it

[wraith hamlet]

It can get you out of a bad situation.

[undone gate]

Adding Dash Master also for 2 charm notches isin't worth it unless your only scorce of damage is from sharp shadow

[marsh spoke]

its (d)eath from libad. like one of 2.5 good songs from that album though so its technically bad music anyway

[earnest drift]

yeah it was a dumb idea but it was fun

i like traitor lord idk why people call the bossfight boring

it feels like crust king khann

[marsh spoke]

i might relisten to the whole thing again but last i remember it was just kinda mid and by far the worst a7x work

[wraith hamlet]

He kind of is.

[undone gate]

Yea it's a good boss people just hate it for no reason

[split cape]

Literally how

[heavy pier]

How do I get this

[wraith hamlet]

So true.

[marsh spoke]

except this song this song is actually kinda good

[full rune]

you download the mod for it

[earnest drift]

i'm guessing the silk heart came from all the silk that was ensnaring her

[wraith hamlet]

With the power of mods!

[golden karma]

Bell beast just ate a silk heart somehow theory

[undone gate]

I see Khann as a more interesting Traiter Lord but both bosses are good

[golden karma]

Oh wait that makes. A ton of sense

[broken seal]

thought it was a tennis ball

[full rune]

silk hearts feel a bit forced is my hot take

[earnest drift]

does unravelled have a bad design
it looks like a table with a cloth on it

[wraith hamlet]

Hornet forces her to spit it out.

[marsh spoke]

silk hearts are whatever

[golden karma]

I guess they were kinda needed

[wraith hamlet]

I like it's design.

[broken seal]

duke do you want the ball?

[fathom rapids]

So you hate tables with a cloth on them

[golden karma]

The design is fine the fight is just ass

[marsh spoke]

i think bell beast silk heart is definitely way too soon though

[earnest drift]

can you beat silksong without getting any silk hearts

[wraith hamlet]

All that for a silkheart and a relic

[heavy pier]

It took me 4 hours after seeing for the first time to find out where its head is

[marsh spoke]

no because lace 2 one is required

[golden karma]

This lowkey more of a design of the conductors because the unravelled is really the entire pit

[wraith hamlet]

You cant skip lace 2 without glitches.

You need no clip to get out of laces boss room.

[golden karma]

Wait bell beast can be fully skipped?

[marsh spoke]

yeah

[wraith hamlet]

Yeah.

[marsh spoke]

wormways to shellwood

[earnest drift]

what did the conductors look like anyway
were they all massive to wear that big metal... thing

[wraith hamlet]

You need to go through wormways.

[golden karma]

I see

[marsh spoke]

could just be a false knight situation for some of them

[peak fractal]

Ass jim 1st try lessgooooo

[wraith hamlet]

They also looked like the carpets I think.

[peak fractal]

Silkspeed anklets allowed me to outrun his butt smash lol

[golden karma]

I mean we know common ass bugs can get that big, like old penitent
I do NOT subscribe to the theory that he's Romino btw it makes zero sense

[marsh ibex]

my hot take is that act three was entirely rewritten

and it shows

[wraith hamlet]

Just use cross stitch

[golden karma]

What would it have been before?

[peak fractal]

Havent even entered the exhaust area

[marsh spoke]

hot take and its just straight up a fact what are we doing

[marsh ibex]

I think the idea of the old hearts would’ve been properly in the story instead of shoved it at the tail end of the story

[earnest drift]

hot take: skarrsinger karmelita

[quick cedar]

Hot take: the earth revolves around the sun

[marsh ibex]

plus, verdania’s current location makes no sense

[peak fractal]

Real

[marsh spoke]

unknown maybe something to do with the bells

[marsh ibex]

It was clearly switched from moss grotto

[wraith hamlet]

Most people take that route due to sucking too much.

[bronze spruce]

So close! Its actually a disk inside a dome and the sun actually revolves around it

[wraith hamlet]

But hey you didn't.

[marsh spoke]

we know almost all the act 3 content was moved there though

[marsh ibex]

anyways no my real hot take is that the gameplay is around the same level as Hollow Knight’s

[trail holly]

why does clawline expend silk if silksong eats the silk she uses

[golden karma]

Oh yeah

[marsh ibex]

it makes a lot of good improvement but red tools are like

[marsh ibex]

[marsh spoke]

red tools are dogshit but apart from that everything else is better i think apart from narts

[peak fractal]

I took the traditional route through last judge, is that bad?

[wraith hamlet]

No? That's great.

[earnest drift]

why are red tools bad

[marsh ibex]

yeah you see that’s my problem because red tools are basically charms

[peak fractal]

Ill experience bilewater later with enough upgrades

[wraith hamlet]

Only lifeblood is goated.

[marsh spoke]

i mean i guess?

i never really took red tools specifically as charms

[marsh ibex]

I need this fucking cocaine in my system immediately brb

[peak fractal]

Im still using the threefold pin in mid act 2 xd

[leaden delta]

ehh i might also say spells but

[peak fractal]

Red tools are great

[heavy pier]

Bro what

[peak fractal]

Cogflies are a gift from heaven

[cunning geode]

i’m getting funny drinks in my liver

[marsh spoke]

like yeah a few of them have equivalents but like

they feel too Active compared to charms which were purely passive

[leaden delta]

cuz ki blast and shriek are reaaally fucking great and also happen to work very nicely with low gear and generally just open up shit

[earnest drift]

i like how red tools fundamentally work, it's just individual red tools that need to be balanced
blue tools and yellow tools are well balanced compared to charms in hollow knight, but red tools are about as badly balanced as charms

[golden karma]

Red tools are like the least charm like

[wraith hamlet]

I hate cogflies.

They are way too good.

[golden karma]

Is it as in terms of being badly balanced

[peak fractal]

what

[marsh ibex]

Not in the “equivalents” sense in the sense they are the things you equip or unequip and change your playstyle at least half

crests do the major changes but tools in generals are the smaller changes that are charmlike

[trail holly]

cogflies got boring quick honestly

[marsh ibex]

and they’re also balanced like shit

[wraith hamlet]

Especially with pollip.

[marsh spoke]

charm system i feel is better compared to the blue tools which are Fine I Guess. needs a quickslash theyre too balanced atm

[peak fractal]

I use them normally tho, no architects

[marsh ibex]

god no

[marsh spoke]

fair take

[marsh ibex]

Thank GOD there’s no quick slash

[earnest drift]

quickslash was broken we don't need another one

[leaden delta]

I do generally like the hk system more tbh with notches

[marsh ibex]

I do not need charms that are just “put this on and never take it off”

[trail holly]

wanderer with quickslash is gonna be hell

[golden karma]

Quickslash is w*nderer

[worldly valve]

red tools would have been fine enough not having to use shell shards for them, it seems completely normal to me to only have them be limited use then reset but I just don't get why you have to go out of your way to grind for shell shards just passively using them it's dumb as hell

[earnest drift]

ok quickslash would be fine in silksong if it was +25% attack speed and you took double dmg when using it

[daring lion]

It's so cute 😭 ❤️

[marsh ibex]

yeah but the crest is 90% yellows and blues so its evened out

[peak fractal]

Peakk

[wraith hamlet]

So fluffy.

[marsh spoke]

"theyre too balanced atm" is the joke the joke is that there isnt a tool that is basically always there Guys please im joking please plea

[trail holly]

so now you take 8x damage on double mask! i think!

[leaden delta]

I would have liked a mix of the two systems. Maybe certain crests have more/less notches or certain charms are banned/weakened (?)

[glacial kelp]

this is just barbs but attack speed instead

[trail holly]

with barbed bracelet

[earnest drift]

yes

[peak fractal]

Radiance if no yellow:

[ripe tusk]

🗣️

[leaden delta]

some blues feel like one notchers but are balanced the same as like filament for example

[marsh spoke]

anyway dont add a fucking quickslash unironically

[strange knot]

Chat, should I go to sleep? It’s 4 am

[marsh spoke]

just fix flea brew and its good

[wraith hamlet]

Hornet if she saw radiance:
I can fix her~

[glacial kelp]

its usually a strict upgrade since its multiplicative with hunter damage boost

[worldly valve]

and fixing her is binding her to herself

[wraith hamlet]

It's 3 am for me I'm tired ASF.

Just there's this thing called insomnia.

[worldly valve]

I agree

[marsh spoke]

anyway we were arguing about red tools being shit

i agree and this is why i dont use them

[earnest drift]

yes why is that

[balmy quiver]

I haven’t played silksong since last year

[trail holly]

pollip pouch is the best blue tool

[wraith hamlet]

Shaman crest for the W.

[marsh spoke]

Not that the existence of the system isnt a bad thing but at least you can ignore it and it makes the game better

[strange knot]

Def not ragebait

[worldly valve]

red tools are FINE I just want shell shards GONE FROM THIS GAME

[wraith hamlet]

They are fine?

[trail holly]

i mean it's only really good with cogflies if im being honest

[wraith hamlet]

And lifeblood.

[strange knot]

It’s better with lifeblood

[wraith hamlet]

Overdosing is cool.

[worldly valve]

they're not it's an idiotic cap that can be completely undermined by grinding which is just objectively not fun

[wraith hamlet]

But then again...

[marsh spoke]

if they were balanced there would be none at the top tier and none at the bottom 2 tiers

[wraith hamlet]

It makes the game too easy.

[trail holly]

oh is it i dont use drugs on silksong so i wouldnt've known

[marsh spoke]

the gap between curvesickle and tacks in terms of balance is insane

[strange knot]

Oh shit I’m blind

[wraith hamlet]

You can buy a bundle for 50 rosaries? That's one grand reed with thief's mark.

[earnest drift]

ok i agree with this
blue and yellow tools were balanced well, probably because team cherry had experience with hollow knight charms
but red tools need work

[marsh spoke]

and tacks is like the smallest offender of that tier

[worldly valve]

you still need to buy them

[trail holly]

is s & s silk and song here

[peak fractal]

Shell shards are so easy to get

[earnest drift]

i still don't think red tools are as badly balanced as hollow knight charms

[wraith hamlet]

Like every shop has them.

[peak fractal]

Rosaries in the citadel is like water

Shards after farming too

I buy shell bundles when i have nothing to spend rosaries on lol

[worldly valve]

you still need to GET them tho, and even if they are you're still gonna be put off from using red tools because they're always finite, imo the downside of having to recharge them at a bench is good enough the freaky shell shard limit shouldn't be on there

[wraith hamlet]

When I want to farm rosaries I use hunters crest volt filament and sharp dart (thief's mark most important)
Start with needle strike use sharp dart and it's gone.

[marsh spoke]

yeah

[peak fractal]

Any wanderer enjoyers here?

[marsh spoke]

shell shards are a system that only matters Ina. First playthrough for players that are bad enough for it to kick in

[wraith hamlet]

I hate it.

[peak fractal]

I use wanderer mainly, hunters for flying/moving bosses

[trail holly]

i use every crest

[worldly valve]

I've played this game three times and I still hate it

[peak fractal]

Goated

[wraith hamlet]

wanderer makes the game too easy.

[trail holly]

yo i JUST realised radiance has sans' face

[marsh spoke]

If you're good enough to properly ration tools and not die every other step you take you can just nuke every boss and move on

[wraith hamlet]

Lmao.

[trail holly]

i was too focused on the 9 hp

[worldly lake]

sand under table

[peak fractal]

Well its my first playthrough, maybe ill try other crests in future runs

[trail holly]

what? then go clean it!

[wraith hamlet]

Use it then if it's your first.

[peak fractal]

And besides the critical hits and speed give me an absurd amount of dopamine

[worldly valve]

wanderer crest is good and the game is still silksong it's not like it's an auto win button but using other crests is definetly more rewarding

[night ruin]

Hii

[wraith hamlet]

Also WHO AM I TO TELL what you should use or shouldn't use what you enjoy try things out.

[worldly lake]

i like witch

[night ruin]

Im unlike these riffraff and use every crest as the situation call for

[trail holly]

the crit is actually very dopamine inducing

[marsh spoke]

Not wanderer user here I dont use it

[strange knot]

I suck at this game

[worldly valve]

Just use any crest but reaper

[night ruin]

Sometimes the situation is “I just wanna switch it up”

[strange knot]

Same here

[marsh spoke]

Not reaper user here Id rather use reaper than wanderer

[wraith hamlet]

Reaper is good for beginners.

[peak fractal]

It was on my list to try, but the input delay….

[worldly valve]

exactly why it sucks so much

[night ruin]

Every crest is good for beginners tbh

They’re all pretty well balanced

[worldly valve]

wanderer already fulfills that pretty well tho

[worldly lake]

have you ever pulled off a witch + mirror nuke? it's peak

[wraith hamlet]

I have.

[peak fractal]

Frr hunters is actually great, parrying also hits enemies and destroys bosses if you have learnt the pattern well enough

[worldly valve]

much better than reaper imo

[trail holly]

using hunter and shaman crest with only cross stitch for a long time made me want to try wanderer and after that i kind of just kept wandering until i stopped hunting and reaping and architecting and witching and properly using shammaning and beasting

[night ruin]

starting out on hunter ideally conditions you for the basics of every other crest

[worldly lake]

it's beautiful

i've killed like two bosses with it

[trail holly]

yes i have actually

[earnest drift]

also i do not think throwing rings are as bad as phial or cannon

[marsh spoke]

as much as i shit on reapers for existing id probably like the crest if it had actual silk gen. 2 silk skill slots would also be appreciated but whatever

[peak fractal]

I just hate the pogo of hunters, for normal parkour/travel its great, but too slow for bosses

[worldly valve]

yeah why does no crest have 2 silk skills slots

[wraith hamlet]

Flea brew.

[trail holly]

why does clawline expend silk if silksong eats the silk she used back up

[severe steeple]

bewast pogo should spin dash auto lock onto enemies

[peak fractal]

Shaman?

[wraith hamlet]

Shaman has 3

[worldly valve]

then again I think it would make this a little like budget shaman

[marsh spoke]

They do like 14 damage per throw. Theyre not as terrible sure but theyre like the most terrible tool that's not a complete fucking joke like those two

[wraith hamlet]

Act 2 shaman.

[worldly valve]

act 1 actually

[peak fractal]

But still.. POSHANKA

[wraith hamlet]

Oh right it's in greymoor.

[trail holly]

"beast should get a free needle hit every time they're inair"

wait did i interpret that right

[molten knoll]

lifeblood is gonna get a redemption arc in sea of sorrows

[marsh spoke]

Sorry I already made 1 joke tier I'm not making 2

[worldly lake]

the throwing ring just isn't really anything special other than POSHANKA

[molten knoll]

it is NOT that bad

[worldly lake]

it's not bad though

[wraith hamlet]

Can't wait.

[hollow abyss]

It is

[peak fractal]

Cant wait to overdose on drugs

[molten knoll]

is not

[peak fractal]

Just like the good ol days

[trail holly]

Joni comes back as John and starts plasmium

[worldly valve]

throwing rings aren't bad they're just vastly outclassed by everything else

[wraith hamlet]

Meth.

[marsh spoke]

anyway i guess you could argue longpin is worse but who cares its still just a bad tool

[earnest drift]

so you only use them if there are 2 or more enemies
if you average hitting 2 enemies per ring, you total 560 dmg

[severe steeple]

yes

[coarse leaf]

Nah they highkey ahh

[earnest drift]

they are quite situational though

[worldly lake]

what does longpin even do 💔

[trail holly]

no

[earnest drift]

i used them in gauntlets and they weren't awful

[foggy fossil]

be ass

[molten knoll]

best tool combo : plasmium phial and memory crystal

[severe steeple]

FIX YELLOW TOOLS

[bright bay]

Found these.

[marsh spoke]

Even in that situation I'm pretty sure it's like a "smart bounce" and not actual homing so it can still miss iirc

[strange knot]

My first warding bind ever!!!

[peak fractal]

We can never replicate the aim of the drill enemies in blasted steps sadly

[wraith hamlet]

Pierces trough enemies which is useless💔

[earnest drift]

yes it can

[marsh ibex]

who is this we

[trail holly]

theres like only 4 really good yellow tools i think

[peak fractal]

Frrrr

[coarse leaf]

Hit through shields and stuff/ pierce multiple enemies

[strange knot]

I ❤️ second sentinel

[worldly valve]

using rune rage has taught me this skill

[wraith hamlet]

Peak clanka.

[keen solstice]

It literally does not
You're playing the game with the 2nd lowest output crest alongside one of the lowest ranged crests with only 1 red slot
It's harder to play the game with wanderer than it is to play with architect or beast, hell even hunter is easier with its 2 red slots and much wider attacks

[hexed sigil]

Are you implying that you hate first sentinel

[marsh spoke]

Oh unironic rune rage user DNI

[strange knot]

Why?

[bright bay]

I think they have the aim of Java Minecraft skeletons.

[rancid stag]

best tool combo: plasmium phial, plasmium phial and finally plasmium phial

[worldly lake]

so longpin is just hella situational

[molten knoll]

wanderer has equal range to hunter btw

[earnest drift]

thinner needle hitbox

[bright bay]

I think so

[night ruin]

Mods should ban the word “easy”

[peak fractal]

No?

[trail holly]

ezzzz

[severe steeple]

lace

[worldly valve]

can't forget about plasmium phial

[worldly lake]

oh yeah it also gives skewered organs

[earnest drift]

longpin is cool for karmelita and seth and that's about it

[keen solstice]

More horizontal range but far thinner, and lower upswing/pogo range

[wraith hamlet]

Correct.

[night ruin]

Ggeznore

[strange knot]

Silksong is too easy

[peak fractal]

Ah i think you forgot the plasmium phial

[earnest drift]

it was kind of useful against those big underworks enemies

[rancid stag]

oh yeah i forgot abt the red vesticrest

[marsh spoke]

ehhhhhhhhhh

yeah no id rather straight pin

[night ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/animation-hyper-speed-space-travel-universe-gif-10851157

[wraith hamlet]

If you play for long enough yeah.

[earnest drift]

longpin should really deal more dmg, why does a javelin deal the same dmg as a throwing knife

[hexed sigil]

Why did this gave me a burst of dopamine

[peak fractal]

I still enjoy threefold pin

[marsh spoke]

straight pins are pretty underrated really. They're not broken at all they're perfectly balanced and that's respectable

[trail holly]

i zoned out to this

[strange knot]

I’ve never used longpin

[worldly valve]

"silksong is too easy" mfs when I put them in a room with the savage beastfly

[keen solstice]

If you want to play silksong on easy mode, architect and beast are right there
Not wanderer

[bright bay]

Their ez

[wraith hamlet]

no voice to cry suffering

[rancid stag]

01/01/2026
hell yeah - me 2 hrs and 26 mins ago

[hexed sigil]

He's really not hard anymore really

[peak fractal]

First try that one

[marsh spoke]

yeah savage beastfly is pretty easy what's the point

[trail holly]

pogo heaven

[coarse leaf]

Straight pin is good for poison procs with the amount of ammo

[worldly lake]

you mean irl right

[worldly valve]

Ok fuck all of you any rad I guess can't have any fun here

[bright bay]

WHAT

[worldly valve]

yes

[hexed sigil]

Delete this shit bro

[night ruin]

Chat can I get off topic for a sec /gen

[rancid stag]

...

[elfin oxide]

what do i need to do before fighting lost lace i have the everbloom and have traveled to the abyss yet when i jump in the void area nothing happens and there is no dive prompt

[trail holly]

"@SukunaXMahitoBetter"😭😭😭

[hexed sigil]

No like delete it bro because zal is watching

[marsh spoke]

sure

[foggy fossil]

fuckass chat

[night ruin]

I’m on the fence with getting elden ring but the sale is so good

[wraith hamlet]

How does YouTube allow this???

[severe steeple]

thats so wicked sick

[bright bay]

Can u radiant SS? (Im asking the entire game)

[coarse leaf]

Get it it’s really good

[bright bay]

TYSM!

[worldly valve]

yeah

[hexed sigil]

This is like surface level actually this isn't even surface level lol

[night ruin]

And I’m just wondering if elden is THAT good or if people are overhyping a Fromsoft game yet again

[marsh spoke]

I played a very little bit of it it's alright

[trail holly]

yeah

[wraith hamlet]

Wild.

[night ruin]

I’m deciding between elden ring and ac6

[hexed sigil]

It's ehh good

[bright bay]

Then who has?

[night ruin]

Or no man’s sky

[worldly valve]

you can get through silksong without getting hit other than the act 3 obligatory damage I guess

[glacial kelp]

you must never read comments?

[keen solstice]

Wait till you see youtube ads lmfao

[strange knot]

Hot take: injector band is useless

[severe steeple]

those are very different games, you gota pick what you want right now

[wraith hamlet]

We have revanced for that.

[mighty mango]

youtube kids

[night ruin]

I keep getting ads to join ICE it’s BLEAK out here

[trail holly]

fake damageless is so fun to do

[coarse leaf]

Really depends on what type of games you play

[worldly valve]

the wild and roaring shaman crest:

[marsh spoke]

why are we dissing the best survivability tool

[coarse leaf]

It’s good with mulitbinder

[wraith hamlet]

I'm not on YouTube that much.

[marsh spoke]

Yeah sure if you never heal its bad bu

[keen solstice]

Beast crest being able to bind before iframes run out with injector:

[marsh spoke]

Oh my god not the multibinder and injector synergy

[strange knot]

Multibinder isn’t good as well

[peak fractal]

I beg to differ

[night ruin]

I wish I could share my ps wishlist without going through the trouble of screenshotting

[wraith hamlet]

It's good against fast paced bosses but yeah it's a waste of a blue slot.

[trail holly]

injector band > multibinder i think

[fathom rapids]

Yes

[wraith hamlet]

Nah.

[worldly lake]

i mean fair enough

[severe steeple]

multibinder sucks

[keen solstice]

"waste of a blue slot" and watch this guy recommend pollip pouch instead

[strange knot]

I agree but both of these overrated

[marsh spoke]

Injector band is leagues above multibinder and their synergy brings it down

[strange knot]

At least on witch imo

[worldly valve]

multibinder is good for Bilewater

[peak fractal]

Injector band is a more versatile warding bell

[worldly lake]

i don't really feel it makes a difference when pulling off the witch nuke

[mighty mango]

the sun after figuring out what the humans they give energy to do in their free time

[wraith hamlet]

I never said pollip pouch.

[night ruin]

I’m just hella on the fence. People said dsr was one of the best games ever made and when I tried it I highkey fucking hated the second half. I thought they were all going to be like dark souls 2.