sk-discussion

[misty drum]

imagine it just charging at you

[subtle rain]

Yummers

[elfin pumice]

Brain is being used for the first time

[icy crow]

I've already found all mementos

[heady iron]

Trypophobia in the year 2025 💔

[golden turret]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-wait-silksong-seat-silksong-cute-silksong-fleas-gif-15439778005425867114

[icy crow]

The climb to Surface isn't bad really + you can just use the shortcut to get to the Herald easier

[limber jungle]

I want this thing dead

[torn token]

How do I activate this wish?

[coarse leaf]

WHAT SHORTCUT

[coarse leaf]

Putrified ducts

[icy crow]

Putrified Ducts, requires Silk Soar. Past Fleatopia

[elfin pumice]

Silksoar in pale lake

[golden turret]

Act 3 or sequence break an ability

[icy crow]

A shortcut just above the bench, only unlockable first from when you reach Nameless Town

[golden turret]

Or rune rage

[elfin pumice]

That’s what it’s called

[torn token]

Nameless town was alot easier than most make it out

[elfin pumice]

Pale lake

[torn token]

It's just not long enough to actually be difficult

[subtle rain]

My dumbass tried for like 20 minutes to djump up there

[golden turret]

Same...

[elfin pumice]

Path of mild discomfort

[icy crow]

Time to look for him now then

[misty drum]

I swear Karmelita used to be spelled with a C and double T

[compact elm]

I finished path of pain and p1 p2 p3 p4 should I continue silksong now or get 112%

[elfin pumice]

Do p5

[devout sinew]

Guys is spoiler extender good or should I buy the thing that let's u stick onto walls

[golden turret]

Karmesan cheese was never spelt like that

[icy crow]

If you did all other DLCs the four pantheons should be the remaining 4% for 112%

[elfin pumice]

If u want

[compact elm]

too long and boring I died at nkg

[torn token]

Stick to walls

[misty drum]

buy ascendats grip

[devout sinew]

Aight brt

[elfin pumice]

Isn’t it needed for all trophies

[subtle rain]

Extender gives you an extra silk skill use so I'd say that over asc grip for now

[compact elm]

I did the grimm troupe Godhome and what else

[rancid stag]

i devour pringles

[compact elm]

Yes

[misty drum]

112% ain't even hard

[elfin pumice]

So do it

[torn token]

Are mt fay, LL, and nameless town the hardest thing in the game?

[compact elm]

did i say it was hard

[torn token]

Excluding steel soul

[icy crow]

If you've done a base 100% and finished the Grimm Troupe DLC the Godhome pantheons should be the last percentage you need

[hardy stag]

I wish I was sped

[icy crow]

Mount Fay is easy

[torn token]

It was more difficult than nameless town

[subtle rain]

No, broodmother

[elfin pumice]

You said you died

[icy crow]

It is harder if you don't have Clawline

[rancid stag]

mt fay isn't hard
just annoying and or tedious

[golden turret]

You're saying:
Spiderman hornet > healing

[dim arch]

Ngl I gave up on P5 in Hollow Knight, I loved the game and got every other achievement but the boss rush just takes too much time to get good at to be worth it to me. I also probably suck too so there’s that.

[compact elm]

I have 4 charms missing, still need 2400 essence and what else

[hardy stag]

Mount fay isn't designed for double jump but nameless town definitely is so nameless town is harder

[fading osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-CYaiIOXWY

[golden turret]

#hk-discussion ...

[torn token]

No even with clawine MT fay is still harder than nlt

[compact elm]

Yea it takes too long for barely any reward

[fading osprey]

legendary algorithm pull

[compact elm]

we are still talking about ss stop being annoying

[open narwhal]

eww hkmain

[elfin pumice]

I suck and I still did it, so you can to

[icy crow]

Anyways I'll just search up the Herald's spots in Silksong I cannot be bothered going in blind

[golden turret]

Mb gng

[subtle rain]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-just-so-peak-peak-panda-peak-panda-it's-just-so-peak-gif-10789048890486755182

[elfin pumice]

Just believe in goose

[misty drum]

honestly I don't think u ever need spool extender

[torn token]

Are tools worth percents?

[elfin pumice]

Yep 1 each

[torn token]

I think those are what im largely missing

[misty drum]

also yes ascend grip makes a specific boss in act 3 free and parkour in general

[golden turret]

Uhh... Yeah... Totally.. I totally didn't use it for a while.... Yeah...

[cursive pagoda]

blue just beat silksong with empty flea brew bottles only

[dim arch]

I may go back to it eventually, I know I could do it. I just chose to move onto other similar games instead like Nine Sols, Rain World, and now Silksong.

[misty drum]

like just heal?

[fathom rapids]

Trobbio

[elfin pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/di-goose-honk-honk-angry-honk-honk-gif-17648939470482040238

[golden turret]

Also makes a gauntlet on act 2 easjer

[misty drum]

also that

[elfin pumice]

Holy cheese, we hate cheese

[icy crow]

High Halls become enemy wave slop once you get Shakra to help you

Literally the whole thing gets trivialized

[dreamy tangle]

hot take: cross stitch iframes are better than ddark iframes

[torn token]

Fancy thumbs down

[elfin pumice]

Did you cheese groal?

[misty drum]

also that but you can also do it urself kinda easily

[icy crow]

Grilled cheese:

[misty drum]

it's still cool that if you just can't do it u can call for backup

[golden turret]

Still haven't fought him

[dreamy tangle]

i did it first time on my second playthrough

[misty drum]

omg same

[elfin pumice]

So you didn’t let him suck you?

[icy crow]

Indeed, only the two Choir Clappers being the surprise at the end

[misty drum]

yeah that's when I locked in, good thing they can't get you on walls

[golden turret]

Haven't even encountered him

[icy crow]

Oh noes I don't have time left

[dreamy tangle]

i dont think people should be hating on groal for his runback its not even part of the boss fighr

[spring fable]

holy cow idk if im just buns but ||trobbio|| is harder thanlike 70% of the hk bosses ive fought 😭

[icy crow]

Guess I'll do the Herald's with tomorrow and finish the true ending

[elfin pumice]

Nah bro I suck him

[dreamy tangle]

different save i think

[misty drum]

ur not buns ur just right

[elfin pumice]

Your straight buns

[rocky jolt]

groal the great is a fun and unique bossfight and way more than something like first sinner

[golden turret]

Magic 🪄🪄🪄

[rancid stag]

what's y'alls favourite flavour of pringles?

[verbal steeple]

doubley jump

[misty drum]

actually no 90% for me

[elfin pumice]

What about chef louigi

[spring fable]

fight just started yo

[rocky lotus]

people in this server really love bilewater for some reason

[rocky jolt]

luigi is insane

[rocky lotus]

i see it defended endlessly

[subtle rain]

Over half of them actually

[misty drum]

cmon it's cool

[golden turret]

Surprisingly yeah

[subtle rain]

Oh im late again
Fuck

[rocky lotus]

its meh

[elfin pumice]

Nah bro I just drill her in the ass so hard and she dies

[dreamy tangle]

i dont like the area that much but i like the feeling if gives

[torn token]

Lol

[rocky lotus]

pretty much the deepnest of silksong

full of trolls and bullshit

[elfin pumice]

Pause-

[dreamy tangle]

do not compare bilewater to deepshit

[icy crow]

Jimmy T. Cherry just called me and told me that Hollow Knight 3 will be Silksong 2

[subtle rain]

WOAHH?

[golden turret]

Yeah his name is chef cannibalism ass people

[rocky lotus]

both are intentionally poorly designed

[elfin pumice]

Imagine someone called mods, would I get banned for that

[icy crow]

Bilewater also has lore behind it

[dreamy tangle]

deepnest punishes you more often bilewater punishes you more heavily, or the other way around i forgot

[elfin pumice]

So don’t call mods, if they don’t see, it don’t happen

[golden turret]

@mod-

[icy crow]

Groal wouldn't be pissed off if the Citadel didn't fuck up discarding the waste

[elfin pumice]

Mid heart attack

[verbal steeple]

is this guy just a story npc or somethin. does he give anythin

[elfin pumice]

What about blind

[dreamy tangle]

it literally is if you're arachnophobic like me

[elfin pumice]

Doing deepnest blind, with no lantern

[humble surge]

oh not much, just the most important piece of lore in the entire game probably

[icy crow]

Just lore + has a permanent delivery wish tied to him

[umbral ether]

you can do a couier quest for him

[rocky jolt]

he upgrades your fracture mask

[golden turret]

Well then don't play silksong. You play as a spider

[rocky jolt]

fear of bugs playing hollow knight

[elfin pumice]

Me

[golden turret]

https://tenor.com/view/mindwave-abbie-starlight-meme-misinformation-gif-17204701955542939102

[dreamy tangle]

my problem isnt the enemies, its the silhouettes that crawl on the screen

[dreamy tangle]

EXACTLY

[noble python]

hi im a silksong noob i just started the game

[dreamy tangle]

HOW DOES THAT NOT LOOK LIKE SPIDERS

[humble surge]

NEW MOD INCOMING VOID AVATAR (lost lace but funny harder)

[elfin pumice]

No fuck you

[earnest drift]

it would be funny if we played as hornet back in Hallownest and when we go back to Deepnest it becomes the easiest and most comfortable area to traverse

[trim estuary]

That’s the bs guy. He makes stuff up

[umbral ether]

as someone who is scared of bugs FUCK DEEPNEST

[rocky jolt]

what do you mean MASK maker doesnt upgrade your clearly damaged and fractured mask team cherry

[golden turret]

The amount of spoilers in this chat... Leave for your own good

[elfin pumice]

Sk DISCUSSION!!!

[noble python]

i just wanted to say i just got to sinners road and just fixed the bench

[icy crow]

Imagine if instead of the Choir kidnappers being counterattacked by Hornet they just slipped on a specific pattern of banana peels and the whole thing fell down to Moss Grotto

[noble python]

i feel really proud of myself

[elfin pumice]

What abt FUCK you

[dreamy tangle]

agreed

[elfin pumice]

Don’t diss my deepnest like that

[glacial sequoia]

infected enemies

[elfin pumice]

Are dead

[noble python]

cant wait to get to the celeste summit sections of silksong

[dreamy tangle]

hornet likes fluffy things, she could change the radiance

[noble python]

deadass what possrsrd them to do that

[umbral ether]

i love metroidvanias and the bugs in hollowknight don't look like bugs

[golden turret]

Literally a random person could spoil the true ending and say "||you free lace from void then the knight helps you escape the void||"

[icy crow]

Radiance pretty much hates Hornet as much as Pale King

[elfin pumice]

Troupe master gay, do you know glorious groal the gay

[umbral ether]

only those stupid fucking spiders in deepnest's foreground do

[elfin pumice]

Imagine

[dreamy tangle]

i love groal the gay hes my goat

[dreamy tangle]

exactly

[icy crow]

Why is there a banana peel on the floor

[elfin pumice]

Ok, but what about goose?

[coarse leaf]

can't afford flea juggle

[dreamy tangle]

wouldnt that be flea juggle tho

[golden turret]

You can also do smth like that at nosk

[umbral ether]

zote juggle

[elfin pumice]

Is there a way to mo juggle

[icy crow]

Possibility of her also wanting to erase any relatives of Pale King

[umbral ether]

idk if you can juggle gups in ror2

[dreamy tangle]

hornet didnt even exist by the time radiance started the onfection

[icy crow]

Tell that to #hk-lore survivors

[rocky lotus]

breaching fin

[dreamy tangle]

she was literally made during the time they needed dreamers, since herrah wanted to reproduce before going into eternal slumber

[elfin pumice]

Sounds like someone’s father

[dreamy tangle]

moth tribe is at least accurate to something in real life: moths are assholes

[icy crow]

Seer staying loyal until the end was sheer determination

[ionic rivet]

I hate Bilewater so much that I think I probably should stop the game due to mental problems.

[golden turret]

Reminds me of when #hk-discussion became deltarune discussion

[dreamy tangle]

LMAO

lets turn this into undertale discussion

[white sail]

@elfin pumice tails

[ionic rivet]

I bought undertale yesterday

It pretty sucks where I am

[golden turret]

I bought Undertale on switch

[ionic rivet]

Me on steam

[elfin pumice]

Radiance can’t be showing weakness

[spring fable]

followup: hes a loser now

[ionic rivet]

I 112% HK LOOOONG TIME AGO

[golden turret]

Extra followup: depression hits him

[ionic rivet]

BUT I AM A SKILL ISSUE IN SILKSONG

[elfin pumice]

Silk issue

[ionic rivet]

No sh*t sherlock

[golden turret]

I still haven't 112% HK. I'm too lazy to get them grubs

[dreamy tangle]

radiance what is your opinion on this spell

[golden turret]

Yeah but I'm too lazy to get them...

[timid plinth]

radiance eats them for dinner

must be nice

[golden turret]

I feel like silksong has a lot more content than HK ngl. It took me half the time to get the first ending on HK as opposed to silksong

[dreamy tangle]

yep

[misty drum]

boss tier list

way bigger in fact (if not it does look way bigger)

[dreamy tangle]

wait holy fucking shit abyss shriek kills the radiance in 15 hits

[umbral ether]

is this even a boss

[misty drum]

yeah but ik people that genuinely think the map is same as big

[dreamy tangle]

15 uses i mean

[timid plinth]

no

[ionic rivet]

It's done, I stop silksong because of Bilewater

[misty drum]

idk but it was there

[dreamy tangle]

mini boss

[golden turret]

Swap lost garmond with unraveled

[lofty shell]

absolutely based

[misty drum]

nu uh I hate lost garmond

[fair cradle]

What do yall think of Hornet <-> Eva swap in my au

[misty drum]

more specific

[golden turret]

Put him in seperate tier called sad tier

[fair cradle]

Also for some reason there is no popular aus in this fandom

[dreamy tangle]

i agree (didnt even look at the other bosses, i just saw phantom in best tier and agreed)

[misty drum]

fine

[misty drum]

absolute cinema is so right

[golden turret]

It took me a year to beat lost lace because of my system being a Samsung smart fridge

[rocky jolt]

no it didnt

[devout sinew]

Guys i need help

[misty drum]

like a literal year orr...

[coarse leaf]

guys after painting my bellhome bellhart shopkeeper stopped selling me bellhome things even tho i hat at least 2 more things to buy

[misty drum]

yes

[lofty shell]

go ahead

[devout sinew]

Isk how to progress

[misty drum]

where r u

[golden turret]

I started trying to beat lost lace on September 4th 2024

[dreamy tangle]

i like silksong and hollow knight equally
hollow knight is better in terms of bosses and healing and spell system
silksong is better in terms of combat system and exploration

[solar yarrow]

bro wtf is this live stream I’ve come across

[dreamy tangle]

dang man, you got early access to the game?

[hardy stag]

I will not stand for dame un gurr the outcast hate

[dreamy tangle]

LMAO

[devout sinew]

I need to learn the 3 melodies

[golden turret]

Totally

[devout sinew]

I learnt the whispering vaults one but idk how to learn the other 2

[misty drum]

I HATE IT

[golden turret]

Fight garmond first

[misty drum]

listen

[devout sinew]

They're in areas I cant access

[devout sinew]

Who? And where

[hardy stag]

You're gonna like it wether you like it or not

[dreamy tangle]

wait is garmond required for 100%

phewww

[timid plinth]

do u want hint

[misty drum]

||the architect u get by entering cog core where u the corpses of the cog dancers are, right and enter the door with an arrow||

[timid plinth]

nvm

[lofty shell]

for the other one
go to the area below the melody guys room
for the next one
go to the north west of the choral chambers

[rancid stag]

i might return to hk for a bit and then after the dlc releases i'll play more sk

i'll still chat here though so dw

[fair cradle]

Is some1 interested in my silksong swap au...

[lofty shell]

i am currently doing radiant absolute radiance

[rancid stag]

nice

[lofty shell]

me

[golden turret]

A guy riding on a critter. You lose access to him if you get the second melody. You have find him in different scenarios around the citadel then go through a secret area to fight

[timid plinth]

exploring really makes things fun instead of asking for help in a chat channel in a server

[dreamy tangle]

okay so, for the architect melody, you need to go to cogwork core in the place you first find whispering vaults, but insread of going there, just go even higher and you'll enter a room and then there'll be a big platforming section

[misty drum]

||and for the conductor go to left choral chambers try to go up by using clawline on some stuff and after u do parkour get ready for the hardest gauntlet you've seen atp||

[molten sinew]

Does silksong have a collectors edition yet

[golden turret]

Do you even know if they unlocked clawline...

[devout sinew]

I'm to confused

[dreamy tangle]

idk prob not

[fair cradle]

Yay!!! I swaped eva and hornet, first sinner and lil ghost, lace and the hk, gms with pale king, radiance and shadelord, infection and void, and nightmare flame and plasmium!!!!!!

[devout sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-choso-choso-crying-jujutsu-meme-jujutsu-kaisen-choso-gif-13355607885186897493

[molten sinew]

Dang i'm waiting for that so i can get it on PlayStation

[dreamy tangle]

have you unlocked clawline?

[misty drum]

Hmmmm I don't see the vision

[devout sinew]

No...

[dreamy tangle]

it is on playstation tho

[fair cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/juggling-lab-gif-11908689558286756781

[misty drum]

for first sinner and lil ghost

[rancid stag]

i'm lowk rusty at hk now

[golden turret]

Hornet in the original hollow knight will be 🔥

[molten sinew]

Yea but i want a disc

[fair cradle]

Look its the only idea i had dont ruin it for me

[rancid stag]

looks like i need practice

[dreamy tangle]

ohh

[devout sinew]

Whats claw lime

[dreamy tangle]

IT TOOK ME 3 ATTEMPTS TO TYPE ohh WHAT

[molten sinew]

Yea i was cheering you on

[devout sinew]

But what do I get out of fighting him

[dreamy tangle]

idk how to explain it

[devout sinew]

IS IT WHERE I PUT THE PIN IN THE RING AND I STAY THERE

[golden turret]

Access to true 100%

[dreamy tangle]

its pretty much a grappling hook

[dreamy tangle]

yes that

[molten sinew]

Like a grappling hook but with your needle

[devout sinew]

I need to fight him

[dreamy tangle]

ok bye imma fight pure vessel

[golden turret]

You don't need to fight him for the 100% achievement but if you don't fight then then you're gonna miss out

[timid plinth]

missing out a mid boss

[devout sinew]

So I
-get claw line
-fight garmond
-enter cog core

Is that right?

[frozen creek]

i cant be the only one who thought of this, right?

[misty drum]

journal entry and aura

[distant cairn]

Nyleth in peak?

[trim estuary]

You are the only one

[misty drum]

yessss

[sharp slate]

that they are both dead indeed

[trim estuary]

The purpose of Sister of the Void succinctly described

[misty drum]

nu uh

[distant cairn]

i dont mean to sound rude but how is she in peak for you?

[misty drum]

theme, atmosphere and just a unique boss in general

[trim estuary]

Nyleth is awesome

[distant cairn]

valid

[rancid stag]

i got aria math in the background rn

[misty drum]

also she feels ethereal (until she starts launching herself)

[distant cairn]

i thought her fight was pretty one dimensional if that makes sense but its cool to see some love for her

[trim estuary]

The normal one, Stranger Things version, or a remix?

[misty drum]

I beat her first try on my first playthrough but got obliterated in my second one so I got history with her

[marsh spoke]

nyleths good just needs a bit more really

tc should stop being afraid of good gimmicks

[rancid stag]

normal i guess

[misty drum]

like what

[marsh spoke]

More attacks and more complicated attacks

[devout nebula]

i just beat silksong and realised i've accidentally skipped 3 areas?? despite having 47 hours

i didn't even know the last judge existed

[marsh spoke]

as she is right now she has 3 and a half unique attacks

[misty drum]

which areas

[misty drum]

more than enough imo really

[devout nebula]

mount fay, bilewater and the blasted steps

[marsh spoke]

in a vacuum? sure whatever

[devout nebula]

or whatever that last ones called

[misty drum]

mount fay😭

[rancid stag]

whole game including act 3?

[devout nebula]

seems like it

[misty drum]

bro u can't reach act 3 without bilewater

[marsh spoke]

she's on the same tier as karmelita and after seth, it's fair to expect a boss of similar quality and difficulty

[devout nebula]

by accident mind you

[timid plinth]

you need bilewater got access act 3

[rancid stag]

oh yeah

[devout nebula]

are there even more areas?

[marsh spoke]

because as it is right now nyleth is just Not as hard

[rancid stag]

abyss?

[misty drum]

other than...

[misty drum]

SHHHHHHH

[timid plinth]

there's a lot more, you dont need to know yet

[misty drum]

She is if ur not prepared

[marsh spoke]

well that's not really a good point

[devout nebula]

zawg wth how did i miss so much by just trying to play normally

[marsh spoke]

anything can be hard if youre undergeared

[misty drum]

yes but like ur fighting Seth like right before

[marsh spoke]

yeah

[timid plinth]

it is bound to happen

[rich herald]

@marsh spoke

[misty drum]

so ur build for Seth

[misty drum]

not for Nyleth

[devout nebula]

but the whole third act...

[timid plinth]

you are not even in act 3 yet

why complain

[native canyon]

@rich herald

[misty drum]

stop spoiling urself!!!!

[rancid stag]

i'm so nerfed after beating sk (not 100%)

[rich herald]

@native canyon

[devout nebula]

so is grandmother silk not the final boss?

[marsh spoke]

you can go back and change your setup for nyleth if youre using a seth setup that doesnt work for nyleth

[rich herald]

shades

[rancid stag]

yes i mean in hk

[native canyon]

gir

[misty drum]

STOP SPOILING URSELFFFFF

[devout nebula]

okay

[marsh spoke]

also hi oomfs

[devout nebula]

okay okay

[native canyon]

had some eggs and now my brain is working overdrive it's time to write hornet x bretta

[timid plinth]

discover the areas you havent explored so you can reach act 3

[misty drum]

but u shouldn't

[devout nebula]

but she stays alive after you kill her

[rich herald]

there is more to do after gms but it would be good to ask around in #sk-help if you need it because there are lots of spoilers here

[misty drum]

depends what u mean by kill her

[marsh spoke]

that's mostly a fault of there not being a bench after seth

[devout nebula]

okay thanks

[devout nebula]

well beat her once

[misty drum]

yeah

[native canyon]

hollow knight fans and final bosses are so annoying

[misty drum]

and you binded her?

[timid plinth]

going back after killing the "final" boss just reverts you to the save before you fought her

[native canyon]

ask a hollow knight fan if flowey is the final boss of undertale and they'll say no because asriel exists

[devout nebula]

ah okay

[devout nebula]

yes

[rich herald]

Chara is the final boss

of silksong AND undertale

[native canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-chara-i-can't-believe-chara-made-me-do-this-me-no-mercy-gif-2417308282346803922

[misty drum]

no like the ending is the ending but if u get the other ending the foster ending is no more cuz it never has been (wth did I just type)

[verbal trench]

true

[devout nebula]

anyway i'll get exploring those areas

[foggy fossil]

Chara im watching your save why you trying not to laugh

[misty drum]

SAVE BILEWATER FOR LASTT

[devout nebula]

alright

[marsh spoke]

gms is a final boss yeah. Unfortunately not a hard one for some sick twisted reason

[rich herald]

They were afraid of her aura

[timid plinth]

the twisted child ending is the reason

[native canyon]

hard if you do it with low gear

[fair cradle]

Go to bilewater first to ready yourself please

[devout nebula]

thats what i thought

[marsh spoke]

we at team cherry love difficult games but we would never ever make a hard boss

[fair cradle]

Its a test for the big after of gms

[native canyon]

also gms is at least harder than lace 2 and phantom so the mom isn't getting mogged by the children

[marsh spoke]

WHO CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARES

[rich herald]

twisted child ending is just
Bad

[timid plinth]

little timmies playing the game

[devout nebula]

ive been there but i couldn't find anywhere to go except get a little screaming baby

[marsh spoke]

gms buff would make twisted child harder to get? Thats like music to my ears more people should be gatekept from my favourite ending

[foggy fossil]

because cool menu theme

[rich herald]

Why do you like this ending

[native canyon]

she may be easy but god damn does she look good I need to steal her gender

[misty drum]

DON'T MIND HIM

[rancid stag]

go to greyroot in shellwood

[misty drum]

SAVE. IT .FOR .LAST

[rancid stag]

then go to yarnaby after getting cursed

[misty drum]

stop spoiling!!

[foggy fossil]

you're..
the Bay Gender Butcher

[timid plinth]

we straight up spoiling the dude

[marsh spoke]

because it's horriying and sad and beautiful both in game and because of what its commenting on

[rancid stag]

awwww

[devout nebula]

ill just leave until i clear the areas nw

see ya

[foggy fossil]

remember when silksong was good
yea
me neither

[autumn herald]

ragebait

[misty drum]

like imagine NOT getting spoiled by a literal ad like I did but try that hard to spoil urself

[rich herald]

to be fair it is a better ending than The Other One

[marsh spoke]

weaver queen or sealed siblings

[misty drum]

also did I tell yall that I got spoiled by an ad?

[native canyon]

what is the other one

[fair cradle]

Go to shellwood to crazy lady greyroot

[rich herald]

both

[native canyon]

gir L...

[marsh spoke]

weaver queen is cool sealed siblings sucks

[native canyon]

weaver queen is awesome

[rich herald]

No L in my name because i dont take those

[misty drum]

strung to serve kicks in

[marsh spoke]

sealed siblings is the thk ending except chopped and ugly

[rancid stag]

in "el"

[rich herald]

thats not apart of my name thats my title

[fair cradle]

Imagine being lace in the weaver queen ending

[misty drum]

notice how we all got Ls?

[rancid stag]

oh

[rancid stag]

i take the most though

[void moat]

if you like hk’s soundtrack

[fair cradle]

Getting struck by the same strings that give you form must be crazy

[rich herald]

also i count snared silk as an endning which is also bad

[restive ibex]

No I don't think the composer is that good

[misty drum]

aren't u obeying those 57 percepts of Zote or sum?

[marsh spoke]

THK ending has infinite aura while Sealed Siblings is Okay! Wow! That's great! It's the same thing again except uncharacteristic of the Knight! Wow! So Cool! thank god this dogshit isnt canon

[fair cradle]

Yeah it is techbically an ending to the act 2

[rich herald]

i dont think i particularly like any silksong ending actually i think im a hater

[gusty igloo]

hi

[upper lark]

I can't get past the moorwing. I know that there's ways to skip and cheese it but I want to beat it normally. Any tips?

[void moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254963858259574906/1378845533321433229/togif.gif

[rich herald]

😭

[marsh spoke]

snared silk is an ending the same way zango is a boss really

[misty drum]

ummm move away jump jump some more

[restive ibex]

TFW green path is just his old garbage recycled for the game

[misty drum]

or invite garmond if something

[rancid stag]

doctor who?

[rich herald]

None of the endings so far are as good as dnm thk or etv

[digital peak]

spam silk skills when you have full health and enough silk to do so

[gusty igloo]

my friend calls it 0.5 of an ending

[verbal trench]

also my true steel soul save is almost done, i have every memento besides hunter and have ever relic/cylinder, and only % i don't have yet is girr cus i wanted karmelita as my extra heart so i havent had the quest yet

[native canyon]

AM I THE ONLY SOTV FAN IN THIS BLASTED SERVER

[trim estuary]

YES!!

[gusty igloo]

gurr not girr

[trim estuary]

It’s a BAD ENDING!!

[marsh spoke]

the solution to all of this would have been remaking act 3 to not be JINGLE JINGLE JINGLE JINGLE JINGLE

[verbal trench]

my fault goat. gorr

[misty drum]

dame un grrrrr

[native canyon]

blocked

[gusty igloo]

i wish we get more endings with dlcs

[fair cradle]

The what

[rich herald]

Remake act 3 to actually yknow
focus on the weavers again

[earnest drift]

sister of the void is so perfect

[misty drum]

godhome dlc🙏🙏🙏🙏

[rich herald]

dream no more
the hollow knight
embrace the void

[trim estuary]

alternate act 3 where we DONT have to deal with the void and bad writing

[gusty igloo]

i dont understand lace in act 3 at all

[fair cradle]

Ohhh ok

[verbal trench]

i fucking love sister of the void i don't understand the hate

[rancid stag]

i need that to cure my boredom

[restive ibex]

Fanservice of the void

[misty drum]

bad writing????

[marsh spoke]

you dont even have to take void out of this shit but like this was obviously so made for fanservice

[gusty igloo]

just let us flee pharloom fr fr

[native canyon]

lowkey I wish I didn't like act 3 cause my rsd can't take all this negativity

[gusty igloo]

great opportunity for an ending

[earnest drift]

she’s sick of her mom so she rebels and ends up in the void because of it

that’s it

[gusty igloo]

"i cant leave yet" SHIT YOURSELF

[distant cairn]

why are we hating on a bug game

[misty drum]

oooh so that's what sotv means

[verbal trench]

i mean maybe act 3 was a bit of fanservice but it was raw so i don't care

[rich herald]

etv > dnm > thk > twisted child > weaver queen > sotv > sealed siblings > snared silk > delicate flower

[restive ibex]

She's a pale being. They don't run from shit. They solve their problem or die trying

[trim estuary]

did you just put ETV at the top of your ending tier list

[rich herald]

There is a huge gap between thk and twisted child though

[rich herald]

yes i did because i like thk surviving

[trim estuary]

I’m suing you

[native canyon]

my ranking is dnm>sotv>thk>weaver queen>twisted child>etv>sealed siblings>delicate flower>snared silk (NOT AN ENDING!!!!!!)

[gusty igloo]

yeah but when you talk to her in the abyss she isnt lost but then when you save her she's nice to you?

[foggy fossil]

doesn't thk survive in the delicate flower ending

[marsh spoke]

WOAH! LOOK! IT'S THE VOID jingle jingle jingle AND LOOK! THESE GUYS ARE SNAIL SHAMANS jingle jingle jingle AND LOOK! YOU GO TO THE ABYSS jingle jingle jingle AND LOOK! IT'S LACE AGAIN jingle jingle jingle AND LOOK! YOU HAVE TO GET THE OLD HEARTS! IT'S LIKE THE DREAMERS AGAIN jingle jingle jingle AND LOOK! YOU HAVE TO FIGHT LACE AGAIN! jingle jingle jingle AND LOOK! THE KNIGHT IS BACK! jingle jingle jingle AND IT'S ALSO THE SHADE LORD BECAUSE FUCK ALL ENDINGS BEING CANON! jingle jingle jingle

[rich herald]

dream no more is the overall more satisfying ending but thk doesnt survive so it immediately loses

[rich herald]

yes but delicate flower sucks

[marsh spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-keys-jingle-gif-522398006157271314

[native canyon]

yeah I'm done discussing endings

[upper lark]

Who?

[verbal trench]

hollow knight players when the hollow knight sequel is in fact a sequel and ties to the original game

[foggy fossil]

back in the day
when the backrooms were just a thing

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hk-mister-mushroom-mushroom-turn-gif-3210638192694703431

[earnest drift]

I think hornet is hallucinating because lace has bothered her to the point she’s living in her head rent free

[marsh spoke]

Yeah because nothing tied Silksong to Hollow Knight

[earnest drift]

“I wonder what that annoying little silk girl would think of this”

[marsh spoke]

hornet just came out of nowhere

[rocky jolt]

are they not a thing now?

[rich herald]

(besides the most niche areas in deepnest)

[distant cairn]

i actually despise the fact i need to beat LL again for this mushroom ending

[trim estuary]

It was said to be completely separate in interviews before Silksong released

[rich herald]

and even then
barely anything lol

[foggy fossil]

im saying what mark was saying

[sharp slate]

second or third tries always easier at least

[trim estuary]

besides Hornet and the Weavers obviously but they implied they would establish and expand upon them in Silksong without needing the context of Voidheart

[distant cairn]

nah LL kicks my ass consistently

[verbal trench]

honestly that was probably before they thought of doing act 3. act 1 and 2 can be seen entirely separate from hallownest

[sharp slate]

i assume no 100% steel soul in the future then 😛

[rocky jolt]

what mark markiplier mark zuckerberg mark rober?

[hybrid flare]

They did expand on the weavers without needing the context of the voidheart doe

[trim estuary]

yeah that’s why Act 3 SUCKS

[rich herald]

i love baiting lost lace into parrying

[zinc trout]

Have people stopped complaining about Bilewater yet?

[rich herald]

nah

[trim estuary]

love me some bilewater

except for the stilkin i don’t like them

[marsh spoke]

look i don't necessarily think void shouldn't have been a thing but

• if they wanted it to be a focus, it should be AT LEAST built up and not feel like a random asspull
• otherwise, they could've made it an element instead of just unnecessary key jingling thats cool in your first playthrough and then immediately collapses under any scrunity

[distant cairn]

bilewater literally wasnt even that bad (i beat groal first try and didnt have to do the runback)

[misty drum]

explore greymoor some more until u find a guy with moustache then talk to him a couple of times

[rich herald]

bilewater hate will always exist even though they are wrong

[native canyon]

god I'm a fucking idiot

[marsh spoke]

why are you an idiot shades

[foggy fossil]

mark hamil

[hybrid flare]

bilewater is peak

[rich herald]

?

[torn token]

Reaper and beast are the best crest to use during flea bounce

[misty drum]

like the snail shamans are literally like "it was obvious you should've known better"

[zinc trout]

Don’t some of the BW enemies respawn after killing them? You can just farm silk and heal up

[hybrid flare]

fr though

[foggy fossil]

only 1

[tiny minnow]

5 minute backtracking here we gooo

[rocky lotus]

Ive seen less of it overtime but it still happens quite a bit

[marsh spoke]

hey hey i didn't mean to attack you for liking it

[restive ibex]

When you didn't think to use screen transitions to farm health

[marsh spoke]

thats not what im trying to do im sorry if i came off wrong

[hybrid flare]

Caretaker is somewhat suspicious due to him lookin like the snail shaman in the crossroads mound and knowing ball but aside from that there's nothin

[foggy fossil]

Bilewater is fun
purtrified ducts should explode

[foggy fossil]

i did that with those small floating enemies

[marsh spoke]

I was overblowing my distaste for it to be funny not to make you uncomfortable thats not what i wanted to do at all

[tiny minnow]

i dont hate the mosqitos in putrified, they're usually incompetent

[gusty igloo]

ranking endings based of how good or bad they are (story, not writing wise)(from worst to best)
8. sealed siblings
7. twisted child
6. embrace the void
5. whatever the base silksong ending is called
4. the hollow knight
3. sister of the void
2. dream no more

1. etv (flower versionl

why did that
what?

[rancid stag]

w klei entertainment for the free winter's feast chest

[graceful oyster]

15 endings

[gusty igloo]

why did ti count up rather than down stupud discord

[hybrid flare]

WHAT is etv doing up there with the flower

[rich herald]

yeah i’m sorry if i said anything that came off like i was being harsh to you shades

[hybrid flare]

It doesn't even lead anywhere

[tiny minnow]

Ah yes the 7 more endings, leaked right here lads

[rich herald]

i wasnt targetting you at all

[gusty igloo]

i hate discord

[rocky lotus]

Both mister mushroom endings are easily the bezt

[foggy fossil]

why is it flipped

[gusty igloo]

herrah doesnt need to be killed

[tiny minnow]

watcher is a bit too bland imo

[hybrid flare]

so?

[rocky jolt]

holy watcher glaze

[gusty igloo]

no fucking idea maybe because discord is such a bad app

[torn token]

He had a cool design and took me by surprise

[hybrid flare]

who invited watcher there

[restive ibex]

Watcher was a 1 try boss that I can't remember any gimmick about except jumping

[torn token]

Watcher is better than nyleth at the very least

[gusty igloo]

other people also dont have to be killed
and whatever shade lord could do is neutralized

[tiny minnow]

big flea is a boss?

[torn token]

Im to lazy to make a list so I just use others

[gusty igloo]

imma go sleep goodnight people

[hybrid flare]

The ending doesn't lead anywhere, and the flower has a new ability that's a complete asspull that it can now teleport stuff away apparently

[rich herald]

if we rank bosses by character design watcher does belong in S tier cause its incredibly cool

[verbal trench]

act 3 was very fanservice-y. that's true. but the point of the void at gms being very "in your face" and having not much build up i feel is meant to be the twist. i feel like if they tried to write in hints to the point where you could expect it would ruin the point of its reveal. but in a way i understand the gripes people have with act 3's writing, i personally loved it due to it exceeding my expectations (i expected act 3 to just be an hour-long sequence, not an actual full act)

[gusty igloo]

big flea in A is just ragebait

also holy karmelita overglaze

[torn token]

He's a fluffy boy

[rocky lotus]

Nah it goes in A for being a recolor of thr karak soldiers

[torn token]

Ragebait

[rocky jolt]

knight conveniently gaining void power from shamans

[hybrid flare]

Also i'd say sotv is the one with the most positive outcome, as there are actual people to be saved

[hybrid flare]

WRONG! rookie misconception

[restive ibex]

You mean learning how to use soul?

[marsh spoke]

i just dont think it shouldve been the direction act 3 was taken in

[torn token]

I've got alot of unpopular opinions but karmelita being in S is not one

[gusty igloo]

i literally its not writing-wise

[rocky jolt]

ancestral mound shaman is the biggest liar in the planet btw

[rancid stag]

oh wait i know what he means know
kinda

[gusty igloo]

its just how good the ending feels

[hybrid flare]

i didn't rlly know what you meant "story-wise"

so mb

[balmy dune]

I got a Shaw for Christmas made by my sister :D

[gusty igloo]

like sad ending vs happy ending

[rancid stag]

am shaman - ddark

[marsh spoke]

i think the game suffers from having an act 3, every boss apart from lost lace and green prince barely have anything going for them lorewise

[hybrid flare]

Endings outcomes from worst to best basically

[gusty igloo]

yeye

[restive ibex]

There are 0 happy endings

[rocky jolt]

what are you talking about teleporting stuff away

[hybrid flare]

I mean heart bosses except nyleth have interesting lore related to their civs

[rich herald]

my problems with act 3 mainly come from the old hearts and ending cutscene
lost lace is fine and i think it works thematically nicely

[balmy dune]

No no the happy ending is leaving pharloom

[marsh spoke]

and i think lost lace and green prince generally suffer from act 3's decisions (and previous act decisions for the case of lace)

[lofty shell]

i feel like hornet should swap with lace
the knight should swap with thk

[hybrid flare]

old hearts is something completely new that isn't developed much unfortunately

[gusty igloo]

the game didnt need an act 3
the 3 endings are good enough imo

[hybrid flare]

since act 3's storyline is so short

[torn token]

Revamped list

[rocky jolt]

here we go with the act 3 sucks discursion again

[fair cradle]

LADIES AND GENTLEMAN AND NOW ITS TIME FOR THE WINNER OF THE TROPHY OF "MOST BASIC ASS SWAP AU"

[marsh spoke]

i think lost lace needs a lot more build up I think the game's narrative needs a lot more lace because she appears a total of 4 and a half times before lost lace

[tiny minnow]

why the pinstress hate

[balmy dune]

Well those endings involve hornet taking GMS place which isn’t really the ending they hint to

[gusty igloo]

lace 2 above karmelita

[rich herald]

the issue is that it could definitely have been developed more but wasnt
so now it just feels like the dreamers part 3 (threefold melody to me is part 2)

[hybrid flare]

She has the buildup, lace just becomes relevant in act 3

[torn token]

No

[hybrid flare]

act 1 and 2 is focused more on gms herself

[marsh spoke]

The problem with lace having as many apperances as hornet in hk is that hornet in hk was a side character while lace is the game's final antagonist

[hybrid flare]

and the citadel

[gusty igloo]

the ending thst leads to act 3 doesnt

[marsh spoke]

What we have of Lace is good but we dont have enough

[hybrid flare]

she's the final boss, doesn't mean she's the antagonist

[inner kelp]

WAIT WHAT…

[hybrid flare]

Kind of like sword saint isshin

[gusty igloo]

how does beating lace in the abyss have any influence on the story even

[torn token]

[marsh spoke]

Okay she's still an integral character to the narrative

[hybrid flare]

gms lets go

[rich herald]

she is the final antagonist you face off against but not THE main antagonist of the game

[torn token]

[hybrid flare]

The antagonist still is gms

[gusty igloo]

of what

[restive ibex]

Lace is not the antagonist wtf lmao. GMS and the void are the antagonists. Lace is the Dragon trope and an unfortunate victim

[marsh spoke]

also Yeah she's still an antagonist

[hybrid flare]

of lace

since hornet saves lace

[rich herald]

there can be multiple antagonists in a story

[gusty igloo]

in what sense lets go

[marsh spoke]

Oh my god guys thehre are more than one antagnoists in a story I didnt say main ntagonist Thats fucking gms

[restive ibex]

Okay by that definition Hornet is "the antagonist"

[coarse leaf]

awoo

[torn token]

She trusts hornet enough to give her lace

[restive ibex]

Oh hk1

[marsh spoke]

What

[hybrid flare]

the strings that pierce pharloom

[balmy dune]

Yes that’s what I think is the point. There is the normal endings then the higher being ending which both games have :D a “true ending” to silksong in my opinion, freeing pharloom from all their strings

[hybrid flare]

Ya mb

[rich herald]

Sk discussion literacy rates at an all time high

[marsh spoke]

anyway back to my point

[hybrid flare]

But at the end she kinda stops being one

[marsh spoke]

I think the entirety of silksong suffers from the fact that everything is a lot more cryptic

[torn token]

GMS goes from evil to desperate

[balmy dune]

Hollow knight was way more cryptic in my opinion and that was with the wiki open while I played

[gusty igloo]

why does gms decide to let go only after beating lost lace

[hybrid flare]

to me it was as cryptic as the original hk

[marsh spoke]

i think its more cryptic than og hk

[hybrid flare]

but the main lore had less stuff

[torn token]

She even let's go of the protective cocoon that protected lace from the void to beat hornet

[sharp slate]

the funny thing is silksong is all just a dream that hornet has in hallownest, thus everything is cannon

[balmy dune]

Because GMS was protecting lace (her daughter)

[restive ibex]

The story literally explains that she's trying to save her daughter

[graceful oyster]

The only cryptic parts of HK have to do with PK and his arrival/motivation

[torn token]

GMS was terrified that hornet would kill lace

[gusty igloo]

sealed siblings is canon and hence she's the dreamer she dreams

[rich herald]

the old hearts couldve and shouldve been something as cool as threefold melody ngl

[sharp slate]

exactly

[marsh spoke]

the main story of the game is explained pretty well i feel like

[hybrid flare]

the good old "collect 3 X" in literally every metroidvania

[balmy dune]

Well more that the void would kill lace much like GMS would be consumed by the void

[gusty igloo]

silksong has 3 of them 😭

[graceful oyster]

Collect 3³

[restive ibex]

0 reading comprehension is how we get shippers

[torn token]

Yeah but she let go of the cocoon because she didn't want hornet to kill lace, she wanted hornet dead

[hybrid flare]

hold on the melody, hearts and?

[rich herald]

[balmy dune]

If I design a game I’m gonna try and avoid a collecting mission but if I would I feel I’m gonna have it be this massive hunt that you have secretly been doing throughout the game leading up to that moment

[lofty shell]

at least basic doesn't mean trash

[marsh spoke]

If youre not going for TE you get enough to understand whats going on, if you're going for true ending you get the basic gist of wht actually happened if you have your eyes open

[gusty igloo]

yeah but like why not let go before we beat ll

[hybrid flare]

welp, that's just how a metroidvania kinda is

[graceful oyster]

Like the original How to Train Your Dragon books

[torn token]

Gms likely knew that hornet carried smth to deter the void and wanted lace to get it

[gusty igloo]

the steel soul exclusive thing

[verbal trench]

shawkra doesn't need much literacy because hornet asks shakra to marry her during one of the cutscenes

[hybrid flare]

ah well that doesn't count

that's a side quest dawg

[restive ibex]

I don't understand this sentence

[marsh spoke]

While in silksong I didn't even know there was a haunting happening until the game told me in fucking act 2

[tiny minnow]

big shaq said WHAT

[balmy dune]

If you notice in the fight GMS only let’s go because she sees hornet no longer as the spawn from the daughters who betrayed her but as someone trying to save lace

[gusty igloo]

what do you nit understand

[graceful oyster]

They make the haunting very obvious that's on you

[gusty igloo]

oh wait my dyslexia fucked up

[coarse leaf]

Lace 2's attack where she does 3 slashes is ALWAYS GETS ME, i always think "this is gotta be safe distance" but its not

[hybrid flare]

Aren't there like several npcs that hint you that something's off

[restive ibex]

Probably the nonsense "before" appearing twice convoluting he possible meanings

[hybrid flare]

Chapel maid maybe?

[marsh spoke]

yeah maybe thats just me tbh

[gusty igloo]

should be better to read now

[tiny minnow]

the humble hunter's journal

[torn token]

I disagree due to the fact that letting go of the cocoon powered up lace and made hornets job significantly harder

[hybrid flare]

THIS especially

[marsh spoke]

but still i feel like in general the whole lore is a lot murkier in silksong

[graceful oyster]

I agree, it is

[balmy dune]

As long as you’re not in the circles you’ll do great. she’s weak!! so attack with all your might

[hybrid flare]

There's just more of it

[tiny minnow]

cause... at the end of the day the kingdom isnt dead yet

[graceful oyster]

The lore relics are nice though

[gusty igloo]

im gonna go sleep

[tiny minnow]

the lore is the past but it's also you

[marsh spoke]

ok why are we glazing hunter's journal now

[balmy dune]

Well the void was also pouring in

[tiny minnow]

did hornet ever lie?

[hybrid flare]

And some of it isn't clarified and left ambiguous, but that's TC being tc

[restive ibex]

If she let go lace would die. She doesn't want lace to die, which is the entire conflict of a3.

If lace didn't get pulled in to the portal, she would have died peacefully without needing flowers

[hybrid flare]

because you can read it and learn shit

[rich herald]

chapel maid is like the earliest instance of it being explicitly said yeah
(aka the first interaction with a npc even in the game)

[gusty igloo]

goodnight people

[coarse leaf]

But she always parries in the MILISECOND i attack, soo and i cant always get away

[marsh spoke]

No the problem isnt whether its a lie the problem is that I dont think importantn lore should be tucked away in a journal entry that you might never read

its not crazy to say that right

[hybrid flare]

Well, usually it's a summary of shit that you probably would've known by now, most of the times

[restive ibex]

We aren't saving lace out of kindness, we save lace because GMS will destroy all of pharloom fighting the void to prevent lace from being destroyed by void

[hybrid flare]

Or a comment hornet left

[torn token]

GMS didn't have to give up the cocoon, she could've held it for longer to prevent lace becoming more voided

[gusty igloo]

okay so the entire thing of act 3 is trying to save lace because she saved hornet

[marsh spoke]

anyway hunter's journal isnt the point

[tiny minnow]

Im not fully sure but doesn't bellhart + widow prove haunting

[restive ibex]

Not because she saved Hornet. Hornet gives no fucks whether laces dies or not

[balmy dune]

I mostly avoided her parries fortunately which I can’t say the same for you. I recommend always being above her

[coarse leaf]

LL was still an underwhelming final boss honestly

[tiny minnow]

widow's entry literally tells you she's like on strings

[restive ibex]

^

[marsh spoke]

yeah haunted bellhart is a thing i forgot

[hybrid flare]

No, we're saving PHARLOOM because gms decided to be a good mother NOW instead of literally any other time

[marsh spoke]

i was thinking of the dialogue lace gives you in act 2

[graceful oyster]

Bellhart is peak from start to finish I love Bellhart

[gusty igloo]

also in the journal entry for the surface bugs whatever theur name is,its stated that gms can onky control whats below her, how is she still in control when in the abyss?

[balmy dune]

If you notice the cocoon wasn’t full proof because it didn’t protect lace from the void. It wasn’t gonna protect her forever and GMS knew that

[coarse leaf]

In my first save, i did her 3rd try, now here i am struggling (on the 10th try)

[hybrid flare]

Chapel maid tells you bout it iirc

[gusty igloo]

yeah but that leads to saving lace because she sacrificed herself for you

[hybrid flare]

that's not the point doe

[tiny minnow]

for fucking over her mother, no?

[gusty igloo]

yeah but gms does and thats a way to save pharloom

[marsh spoke]

why her. Why are we giving the lore to a forgettable npc

[balmy dune]

The void used her silk to rise from the ground thus taking control of what she had control over r

[rancid stag]

i got survivor woodie skin for free by just playing for 10 days (ingame)

[tiny minnow]

she's not there for you she's there to piss off her mother one last time

[torn token]

The main reason lace got voided is not due to the cocoon failing, but rather due to the fall into the void sea, GMS used the cocoon to prevent lace being fully consumed by the void

[hybrid flare]

She does, lace parallels TK, hornet seemingly thinks that she couldn't save TK in dnm, but this time she's determined to do so

[gusty igloo]

so again how does gms "letting go" save pharloom?

[rancid stag]

free spools
(i'm geniunely happy)

[hybrid flare]

Check lost lace's journal entry

[rancid stag]

450 spools...

[balmy dune]

GMS was gonna die ether way she knew that

[rancid stag]

tbh it's not that bad

[marsh spoke]

anyway i dont necessarily think silksong act 1 and act 2 and parts of act 3 are terrible writing but i think them being murky makes them kinda Suck thats my original point

[gusty igloo]

im gonna go sleep goodnight

[hybrid flare]

Her strings were used to hold the cocoon to keep lace safe, once lace is safe, gms goes to die

[jolly thistle]

[marsh spoke]

suck isnt the right word

they suffer from it

[hybrid flare]

Hk lore is generally cryptic

[marsh spoke]

anyway i was complaining about act 3

[balmy dune]

I feel act 3 could’ve had more time to develop before being implemented but it is very fun

[hybrid flare]

while the story is explained fine enough in both games

[marsh spoke]

Void threading sucks. Thats all

[coarse leaf]

Act 1 is def the hardest on a first playtrhough

Act 2 is the best act, its peak asf

Act 3 is disappointing honestly

[tiny minnow]

do you need yellow paint to know where to jump at this point? you literally see strings pop up on folks, hell even garmond mentions it

[hybrid flare]

I liked the concept of void threading

[graceful oyster]

Void threading was cool as a surprise tbf I was pretty wowed by it

[marsh spoke]

i already said that haunted bellhart is a thing

[hybrid flare]

Like omds i think it's pretty creative

[marsh spoke]

sorry i forgot about obvious shit that happens i do that my bad

anyway back to talking about gameplay because thats my thing

[hybrid flare]

oh you're talking bout void threading gameplay wise?

[tiny minnow]

oh wait im arguing with the wrong person, sorry

[marsh spoke]

Yeah dude i was already proven wrong

[tiny minnow]

and probably a bit too agressive sounding

[balmy dune]

Act 3 did feel very eh but the story was good. Old hearts was a little annoying

[rancid stag]

i unravelled almost all my skins in dst

[zealous valley]

Is sawtooth circlet the best blue

[gusty igloo]

so if gms dies then pharloom is saved from silk? or does sister of the void only make void no longer attack the remaining silk

[rancid stag]

ended up with 2850 spools

[graceful oyster]

It and Volt Filament

[marsh spoke]

gameplay wise its Mehhhhhhhhhhhhh

[zealous valley]

Meh I feel like 25% isnt that much

[tiny minnow]

if only it had more specific interactions

[zealous valley]

I feel like weavelight is more useful

[hybrid flare]

Yes, silk no longer hangs from her cocoon and the void cant keep rising to the surface

[graceful oyster]

25% of over 100 is INSANE for a blue charm

[tiny minnow]

and not just "hey you need 10 more hits to kill this thing now"

[gusty igloo]

"this or that?"
"yes"

[hybrid flare]

answering the first question

[zealous valley]

I only find it worth using on shaman

[native canyon]

nah you're good dw, it's just difficult cause I feel like I can never collect my thoughts when something I enjoy is insulted or criticized or whatever and I feel stupid for it

[hybrid flare]

void threading feels like bloating at times

[graceful oyster]

It's worth using any time you use silk skills

[balmy dune]

Silk is a type of soul which GMS created to let her daughters weave with. The void can’t get rid of soul very easily so the easiest way is to push it out and thus the strands flew up and consumed pharloom as they attempted to eat away at the cocoon

[vale whale]

merry christmas

[marsh spoke]

no no i'm not good i was being inflammatory, its my bad as well at least partly

[balmy dune]

No more GMS no more silk

[marsh spoke]

Yuore not stupid and I still can be very much in the wrong here

[balmy dune]

Easy to get rid of

[hybrid flare]

no silk = void can't rise

[tiny minnow]

So there's only song now?

[hybrid flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1445136274301128806/togif-1.gif

[marsh spoke]

anyway i was talking about void threading being mehhh

[balmy dune]

Hornet still can teach others to weave silk

[zealous valley]

Well the needolin takes silk to use so no song either

[tiny minnow]

so we in a way do the same as in the first game and destroy the title of the game from existance

[lofty shell]

so the reason why pharloom got consumed by void was because of gms silk acting as a catalyst for void

[marsh spoke]

i think act 3 being like a ng+ (which i think its supposed to be from my understanding) isnt a bad thing I just find simple enemy buffs lame

[tiny minnow]

so everyone relies on hornet's silk, thereby hornet establishes a silk dictatorship?

[vale whale]

they should have added an actual ng+

[graceful oyster]

Silktatership

[native canyon]

I'm building legos and this shit's pissing me off if I wasn't listening to white palace I'd be way more angry

[tiny minnow]

so all along she is a monopolist

[lofty shell]

i mean blasphemous got an NG+

[marsh spoke]

I think act 3 couldve done the job really well tbh

[graceful oyster]

Plant Legos???

[rich herald]

white palace so good

[vale whale]

pharloom was promised to hornet 3 thousand silkillion years ago

[balmy dune]

Yep

[hybrid flare]

wym ng+, late game part of the game, nothing related to ng+

[native canyon]

nobody's in the wrong here, we simply have differing views on act 3

[marsh spoke]

Its just that. The bosses. They're not hard enough. TEAM CHERRY PLEASE MAKE THE BOSSES HARDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

[hybrid flare]

it would've not fit ng+ in any way

[rich herald]

but yeah i forgot about black threaded enemies lowkey lol
i dislike void masses also

[marsh spoke]

i said like

[rich herald]

they should just either be unkillable or not exist

[graceful oyster]

Me mum got me the orchid plant legos and I'm glad because when I woke up I was like "hm I wish I got more plant Legos"
Grown ass man btw

[hybrid flare]

doesn't fit and doesn't share similarities

[vast citrus]

thats wholesome

[marsh spoke]

my point is the concept of going through pharloom except this time at full power is pretty good

[graceful oyster]

It is, a true Christmas miracle

[tiny minnow]

except you get earrapes from the Resonance

[hybrid flare]

you can do that once you complete most games without the need of ng+

[tiny minnow]

every so often

[native canyon]

I wish there was more side shit in act 3

[hybrid flare]

i wish there was more MAIN shit in act 3

[tiny minnow]

I wish the abyss was larger

[marsh spoke]

its just that 1) The game doesnt present enough of a challenge to you being at full power 2) For some fucking reason the only exploration you do is far fields

[lucid forge]

Wagamama gamers 1 2 3, everybody sing your abc's!

[rich herald]

act 3 just needs more as a whole

[marsh spoke]

This is why I'm excited for sos and praying its act 3 exclusive

[vale whale]

Six svsn

[marsh spoke]

i think all new dlcs should be act 3 exclusive really

[rich herald]

it wouldve but
deadlines

[native canyon]

nah main shit's fine

[hybrid flare]

nah what i lwk loved to explore most regions

[lucid forge]

Car keys

[hybrid flare]

too short, messy storyline

[marsh spoke]

in act 3

[hybrid flare]

Ya honestly i loved how the world changed but it doesn't bring much stuff that's new

[lucid forge]

Wait what's sk

[muted coral]

guys is there a way to get these two complete hunter notes in act 3?

[hybrid flare]

unless you want to check out the 2 npcs each region has

[graceful oyster]

Up near thread storm

[misty storm]

I remember someone in a different server said they beat Silksong the day they got it

[rich herald]

yeah they still spawn near the styx entrance at sinners road in greymoor i think

[lucid forge]

What game is this

[tiny minnow]

yep

[muted coral]

Silksong

[marsh spoke]

i just think that more hard enemies, more shit to do, the bosses actually being hard etc etc wouldve made act 3 Super Fucking Good

[lucid forge]

Is it good

[tiny minnow]

nah

[vale whale]

atleast you guys aeent nine sols fans

[muted coral]

Yeah silksongs great

[lucid forge]

Ok

[tiny minnow]

i'd pass

[rancid stag]

[hybrid flare]

enemies are hard enough for sure

[vale whale]

we wkll never get ANY dlc or updates ever again

[lucid forge]

Oh ok

[vale whale]

and we didnt even get any before btw

[graceful oyster]

Polish up the writing a bit too though

[hybrid flare]

idc much about the difficulty of bosses as long as they're fun

[dark bolt]

my first silksong ragequit!!!

[lucid forge]

How much is it

[tiny minnow]

he got paid by the big Cherry

[vale whale]

there is 0 new content after the base game

[native canyon]

I like the more environmental ideas presented in act 3, and if I can be honest I prefer void as a force of nature to radiance slightly, radiance having wants and desires makes her whole force of nature thing feel a bit muddy with me

[lucid forge]

Is it expensive

[marsh spoke]

already bitched about that

[tiny minnow]

Big Cherry exploited the red coral gorge and see how it turned out!

[rich herald]

writing needing to be improved is a given

[graceful oyster]

Yeah ik

[hybrid flare]

radiance's whole motivation is lowkey just wrath

[native canyon]

the writing can always be improved

[hybrid flare]

imo it's better than the first game's but in ss it gets messy at some point

[marsh spoke]

by environmental you mean the old hearts right

[graceful oyster]

Is 100 Grand the best candy bar

[tiny minnow]

why do people not mention shadow creepers and their lore?

[misty storm]

Someone in a different server that I left said that they beat Silksong in a day and I don’t believe them at all

[tiny minnow]

I think it's peak act 3

[hybrid flare]

they have noone

[verbal trench]

i like the plasmium shit that happens in act 3

[rich herald]

cause theres like
no lore to shadow creepers
they just exist in the abyss

[misty storm]

I was honestly surprised seeing it in the abyss in Silksong

[graceful oyster]

Idk but they're like the only part of the Abyss I like, I love those little dudes

[lucid forge]

Guys how much is silksong

[native canyon]

lowkey I think the formats of souls-like games hinders the actual narrative like it makes for interesting worldbuilding sure but I always feel like souls-like games can have better narratives

[tiny minnow]

They are BIG NOW, + they may not be real bugs

[hybrid flare]

that's all we get btw

[marsh spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-thinking-curious-drunk-gif-16053729103778145450

[tiny minnow]

Big Void spying with you through drones (Shadow creepers)

[verbal trench]

i don't feel like they really Need lore. they're just little guys that exist down there, that's their habitat

[earnest drift]

are we complaining about act 3

[tiny minnow]

still more than nyleth

[hybrid flare]

yes

[verbal trench]

they're little blimblos

[marsh spoke]

anyway i think i was also bitching about act 3

[lucid forge]

Guys what if in DLC we find a vessel corrupted with lifeblood kinda like broken vessel

[graceful oyster]

I like that their eyes aren't orange that was kinda uncanny to see

[hybrid flare]

TRUE

[rich herald]

yeah
its like trying to assign lore to crawlids or something lol

[hybrid flare]

why the fuck is nyleth NOT optional

[earnest drift]

we rushed team cherry guys
we should've let them stall for another year or two

[graceful oyster]

Nyleth is optional

[earnest drift]

she is

[misty storm]

The shadow creepers were a surprise seeing them in Silksong, I think it was kinda cool to see them again

[rich herald]

all the old heart bosses are optional because you can do any combo of them

[hybrid flare]

why the fuck is nyleth encouraged to be beaten as a MAIN BOSS

[marsh spoke]

oh yeah why are only 3 out of these bosses hard

[quick cedar]

I hate act 3 because I hate the number 3

[native canyon]

not just those but the void essentially acting as retribution for the citadel and gms' butchering of nature

[hybrid flare]

INSTEAD OF THE ONE THAT HAS AN ACTUAL STORYLINE AND LORE

[lucid forge]

I struggled more on gurr than I did lost lace

[earnest drift]

i found seth, pinstress, tormented trobbio and lost garmond hard enough

[quick cedar]

Karmelita lace and uhh

[hybrid flare]

they made clover dancers js to throw them away

[thin jewel]

Is double jump required to beat act 2

[lofty shell]

karmelita, tormented trobbio, lost lace

[verbal trench]

maybe my floorless challenges has made me blind but nyleth isn't thaaaaaat bad

[rich herald]

lost garmond?

[lucid forge]

Just do clover dancers instead man

[hybrid flare]

I lwk struggled on bell eater

[hybrid flare]

Ya but why nyleth

[native canyon]

nyleth needs better lore

[graceful oyster]

Karmelita, Seth, Khann, Lost Lace, Nyleth, TTrobbio in that order are good bosses 👍🏿

[rich herald]

actually fair cause lost garmond is just a nothing burger anyways

[lucid forge]

Plasmified zango is easier than craggler no debate

[thin jewel]

Nyleth is the easiest heart boss

[earnest drift]

bell eater had the potential to be incredible but seeing it flail its pathetic little legs around and stick its butt out to poop took out all the seriousness

[hybrid flare]

and the worst one

[thin jewel]

How

[verbal trench]

idek nyleth's deal

[graceful oyster]

So real

[hybrid flare]

Stands there, dies to 2 inputs

[tiny minnow]

well, if they are void beings in a way, would that mean they can spread void above?

[native canyon]

unn but a flower this time

[lucid forge]

She's kinda boring ngl

[thin jewel]

Nah shes fun

[vast belfry]

Cereal

[hybrid flare]

worse than any other heart boss

she's not bad by any means doe