sk-discussion

[low pond]

the marrow and mount fay rejoin

[heavy minnow]

MAKE CC WINS

[finite swift]

fuck

[trail holly]

YES

MOUNT FAY MY GOATTTT

[night ruin]

You think towns should be judged by their exploration????

[light swan]

areas should

[silk monolith]

bilewater will winj

[night ruin]

In that case that makes every town shit tier

[heavy minnow]

Yeah this poll suck and my day is ruinned

[weary hatch]

Yeah u better

[low pond]

lost verdania vs mount fay

[night ruin]

That seems unfair

[light swan]

thats what im SAYING

[rancid flare]

https://tenor.com/view/fgteev-locked-in-locked-in-alien-alien-geeked-gif-3347308402896091423

[night ruin]

Idk about that

[gloomy hill]

I agree

[light swan]

area with no exploration CANT COMPARE TO area with good eexploration

[graceful oyster]

Fay is so much better than Verdania

[lofty shell]

Vote mount fay guys

[night ruin]

Best platforming section in the game vs yaoibait ooooo this a toughie for me

[finite swift]

WHY MUST YOU DO THIS TO ME?

[worldly lake]

i just eventually learned its moves and just went for a no hit on my first playthrough

[atomic crow]

how does that make it better???

[low pond]

muahahaha

[light swan]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[graceful oyster]

Every region except Wisp Thicket is better than Verdania

[atomic crow]

no i think exploration is better than towns

[silk monolith]

bilewater is better than every other area in the game

[trail holly]

no fucking way we're comparing best platforming vs fucking VERDANIA

[night ruin]

That implies every single area is meant to have the same rubric for exploration. If that were the case then we shouldnt have towns or safe rooms at all

[light swan]

every area should have the same rubric i agree
we're ranking areas based on areaness

[low pond]

Choral Chambers vs the Marrow

[rancid flare]

Idk why we’re doing this grand gate solos every area

[night ruin]

The things you find in an area matter to me idk

[low pond]

it wasn’t on there but it would clear

[lofty shell]

is this even a competition?

[silk monolith]

whats better than groal hes great

[low pond]

both rejoiners lose back to back lol

[light swan]

bilewater!!!

[atomic crow]

wow i can’t decide 😑😑

[night ruin]

I vote cc but marrow wins in my heart for getting silksong made in the first place

[graceful oyster]

Fay won wdym

[trail holly]

wait what isnt mount fay 2

[low pond]

stop the gaslighting

[lofty shell]

first sinner is an easy S

[trail holly]

it says 2:11 and 1:6

[rich herald]

option 2 is the first reaction emoji

[graceful oyster]

Fay has 11 votes

[night ruin]

I see this channel has a preference for combat lmfao

[rich herald]

and fay was option 2

[light swan]

bilewater is not about combat

[trail holly]

TENOR YOU FUCKING LIED TO ME

[atomic crow]

nyleth better than first sinner???

[low pond]

shoot

[trail holly]

YOU TRICKED ME

[velvet verge]

i love nyleth im sorry

[silk monolith]

goofy dont put the emojis in a different order

[atomic crow]

clover dancers in a

[night ruin]

Who told u that

[light swan]

myself its my opinion

[low pond]

MOUNT FAY IS BACK

IN THE FINALE

[night ruin]

Yay </3

Wait wrong one <3

[trail holly]

i love you so much brother

[clear delta]

How

[low pond]

i misread the votes

[silk monolith]

bilewater is like 70% platforming 30% combat

[low pond]

Anyway…

Bilewater

Mount Fay

Choral Chambers

[light swan]

yea lol

[night ruin]

Bilewater has so many enemies idk

[light swan]

idk if bilewater is winning this one but I BELIEVE

[velvet verge]

mount fay is my fave out of these

[chilly crane]

Choral chambers ez

[haughty bluff]

https://youtube.com/shorts/hAlj2SXAn4M?si=srgn6ZCDRI2DZbte

[light swan]

ITS SO EVEN

[atomic crow]

CHORAL CHAMBERSSS

[silk monolith]

js those fucks that jump you on the runback

[graceful oyster]

It's between BW and Choral

[trail holly]

can we just make it a tie so they all win

[night ruin]

Giving it up to mount fay once again for the platforming and upgrades completely clearing the others in comparison

[low pond]

You.. don’t have to be… the bad guy

[light swan]

uhh 2 of them dont attack you, 2 of them barely attack you, and the rest only spawn in 4 rooms

[trail holly]

WHO THE FUCK

[night ruin]

Only thing holding mt fay back is that it is a pretty much purely platforming space which some may not like. Im built different tho

[clear delta]

I have to give it to CC narrowly

[light swan]

BILEWATER FTWWW

[atomic crow]

u rlly care abt upgrades don’t you

[light swan]

bilewaters S OGOOOD

[trail holly]

i hate you all bruh

[low pond]

literally neck and neck

oh shoot

[night ruin]

Who gives a fuck what i like its your vote

[trail holly]

my fay thr goat

[atomic crow]

plz vote choral chambers ppl

[gilded umbra]

Abstracting sounds like a cool idea

[rancid flare]

Kirk tag

[night ruin]

The places that give double jump in any platformer just have such a cool spot in my heart

[low pond]

So Mount fay gets 3rd definitely

[silk monolith]

choral chambers more like midral chambers

[young saffron]

Choral chambers slop

[low pond]

But it’s still undecided for first place

[night ruin]

Plus what good is exploring an area if the stuff you find there isnt good

[thin jewel]

how do i beat karmelita

[night ruin]

I wanna feel like an explorer yk

[low pond]

we gotta end it soon

[atomic crow]

ok i think bilewater is going to win

[young saffron]

Ez bile water wins

[trail holly]

sarcasm is DEAD

[clear delta]

Bilewater genuinely gonna win holy shit

[graceful oyster]

I was playing around with making it a tie I decided Bilewater

[silk monolith]

finding twisted bud makes it way better than mt fay

[light swan]

oh shit bilewaters still winning after i left to get water lets go

[night ruin]

Twisted bud > double jump? Jit tweaking

[clear delta]

Not what I voted for but I have to respect it

[rancid flare]

How..

[atomic crow]

crazy how everyone went from hating bilewater to thinking it’s the best area in the game

[clear delta]

Love bilewater and choral chambers

[light swan]

the sense of wonder and process
its the journey that counts not the destination

[graceful oyster]

I like bloatroaches

[trail holly]

dyt i genuinely support kirkinator

[silk monolith]

ofc it is hornet becomes a mom

[night ruin]

The contrarian effect

[rancid flare]

No I didn’t LOL

[low pond]

literally tied

[light swan]

everyone went from loving wanderer and hating hunter to the other way around

[earnest drift]

forced to become one

[night ruin]

Thats certainly one way to look at it

[light swan]

same for witch crest

[graceful oyster]

Or it's just that we're realizing it's a good region

[lofty shell]

bilewater won

[low pond]

Oh man

[rancid flare]

People slowly realizing overtime that it’s gen a really good area is really nice to see

[night ruin]

The journey must be filled with reasons to keep going. Aka upgrades

[light swan]

yk maybe its my presence that makes people like wtich & bilewater

[young saffron]

Do you by chance have any cool combos videos for hunter crest

[silk monolith]

you like bilewater cause its contrarian now i like bilewater cause i played it with beast and love the ost we are not the same

[light swan]

nope, only witch really has cool combos

[low pond]

Congratulations to our winner…

[light swan]

BILEWATER!!!!!!!!!!

[low pond]

bilewater

[night ruin]

Also what fuels a sense of wonder for exploration if not the promise of a cool reward? This is the entire premise of the most popular piece of fiction in asia lol

[graceful oyster]

I like Bilewater because if a region isn't challenging it's boring, and it sounds great to boot

[clear delta]

🥹

[graceful oyster]

Also why I like Underworks a lot

[low pond]

smh

[light swan]

the exploration itself

and also....... you dont know the reward when youre exploring anywa

[sage glade]

just finsihed act 2, heading to act 3 quite excited, how far is coral forest? my fave trailer area

[light swan]

even if you dont get anything out of it you still explored the area thinking that you would

[thin jewel]

oh my sweet summer child

[clear delta]

Glory to Groal the Great!

[rich herald]

boy do i have news for you

[old cedar]

im fucking scared vro

[night ruin]

The exploration itself is nice but it doesnt create the entire sense of wonder, at least not for me. Its about what i find, and when i find things that make me feel good, it makes me reflect kindly on an area.

[light swan]

i loved underworks personally, i dont see why ppl dont like it

[night ruin]

Im not gonna go to an area with nothing good in it, especially not if i know this for certain

[graceful oyster]

Wah wah paid benches

[old cedar]

why the hell is the shades theme playing

[light swan]

how would you know that an area has nothing good in it if you havent explored

[gilded umbra]

Your going on the real journey now…

[clear delta]

Puts stress on your rosaries or whatever like shut up mane

[night ruin]

How wouldnt you

[graceful oyster]

Greymoor and Underworks are my two favorite regions

[silk monolith]

i refuse to give money to the citadel so i dont buy any bench

[old cedar]

i shouldve never said act 3 wasnt real

[weary dune]

[light swan]

because you dont know whats in the area

[grizzled turtle]

can someone explain how the infection and the haunting are different
I've been trying to find reasons but I want to hear what yall think

[night ruin]

Until you do

[light swan]

which is AFTER you explore the area

[graceful oyster]

Tentatively

[light swan]

i personally found a weavenest, memory lockets, tools, and also the mist while exploring bilewater and that fueled me to see what was at the top, which made me enjoy the exploration

[clear delta]

Can we do a boss tournament now that was lowkey fun

[lofty shell]

☣️ ☢️ ☣️ ☢️ ☣️ ☢️ ☣️ ☢️ ☣️ ☢️ ☣️ ☢️ ☣️ ☢️ ☣️

[night ruin]

And if i explore an area and dont find anything i like or personally enjoy, my reflection of that area can be sullied a bit

[graceful oyster]

Boss tournament lame do an OST one

[clear delta]

Hmm

[light swan]

but the exploration was still fun

[night ruin]

Depends

[clear delta]

Wait what about. Tools
Tools tournament!

[light swan]

tools too obvious and will only start discourse

[graceful oyster]

Sawtooth Circlet and Volt Filament win

[night ruin]

Cue the deluge of metagamers

[silk monolith]

dice wins

[light swan]

see what i mean

[weary hatch]

Theyre 2 different ailments that manifest similarly

[light swan]

besides i still found the mist while exploring bilewater

[clear delta]

How about a tournament with. All 200+ enemies 😂

[light swan]

also, i got apostates key which led me to first sinner (top 5 bosses)

[clear delta]

Ok what about an NPC tournament

[light swan]

skarr stalker and bloatroach wins

[graceful oyster]

Bloatroaches are so fun for no reason

[clear delta]

Sherma and shakra and garmond would win tbh

[grizzled turtle]

I found that the haunted are still somewhat minded (text written by them up in the cradle to capture the weavers)

[mental arch]

how about a song...made out of silk

[light swan]

i was disappointed by the rewards of bilewater but the exploration was so fun i kinda forgot about the fact i didnt get anything

i started exploring for the sake of finding more about this amazing area

[clear delta]

And I guess lace if she is counted
Maybe npc should strictly be noncombatants

[light swan]

i personally fight good bosses cuz theyre fun, not for what comes after them

[low pond]

I’m out but expect another bracket fight tomorrow cause these are fun

[light swan]

same goes for areas: i explore them cuz theyre fun, not for what comes after them

[clear delta]

You still get the ruined tool and quick sling

[night ruin]

Guards send this mf back to february 2019

[light swan]

exactly

[night ruin]

Depends

[light swan]

i got those late act 3 anyway but coming back and finding more stuff in the big area still made me amazed

[night ruin]

Some bosses feel like a hunting mark, which can be enjoyable

[graceful oyster]

That is why I'm continually excited to fight Sinner and wasn't disappointed when I saw how bad Rune Rage was because the fight was so fun

[weary hatch]

Yes also Pavo has dialogue recalling his experience with the haunting after u save bellhart

[mental arch]

wake up groal we know this ur burner

[nova summit]

After 92 hours of pain and suffering it’s almost time for the final boss
-# which I’ll do tomorrow

[light swan]

i dont like groal

[lofty shell]

you get seeker soul in bilewater
which is kinda essential

[night ruin]

GG

[graceful oyster]

Final boss yes hm

[grizzled turtle]

"if one wanted to connect themselves to something higher, it'd seem a wonder"
the haunting sounds a lot like a curse that disguises itself as a blessing to those who are affected

[light swan]

its a reward yea but i wouldnt call it a good one

[young saffron]

Guh mod that makes all bosses in the game harder

[night ruin]

Dont spoil on purpose

[lofty shell]

OMG YOU REACHED THE FINAL BOSS
THATS SO COOL

[clear delta]

Groal boss was nice but not one of the best ones but I really like Groal as a Creature

[graceful oyster]

Afaik I haven't. In fact you saying that spoiled more than I did

[clear delta]

And also he has cool lore

[night ruin]

Just saying dont spoil on purpose

[light swan]

guys where does red maiden play again

[thin jewel]

HOW THE FUCK DO I BEAT KARMELITA I HATE HER SO MUCH

[graceful oyster]

Slab fight

[clear delta]

During the agartha phonk segment

[rich herald]

beating up wardenfly

[light swan]

bruh :(

[nova summit]

I used reaper crest in 95% of my play through lmao

[light swan]

wait if you didn get kidnapped does it still play

[night ruin]

Goated crest

[light swan]

me too

[graceful oyster]

I... Think so.

[nova summit]

I just can’t use anything else you know

[lofty shell]

oh yeah
after beating the final boss
just make sure to do all the wishes, free all fleas
then check the wish board in songclave

[light swan]

damn, i dont know this song at all lol

[night ruin]

Reaper is just such a good crest for survival

[nova summit]

I have to do act 3 don’t I

[graceful oyster]

I've never been kidnapped so I should know, but I don't fully remember

[clear delta]

I never thought of what happens to the slab fight if you weren't captured

[regal isle]

yes you do... wont spoil it tho dw twin

[grizzled birch]

Alright so

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU MEANT TO HIT THE FLEAS THAT HAVE THE FLEA BREW BUFF IN JUGGLE?

[nova summit]

Dw I know the spoilers lmaooo

[clear delta]

I only got captured

[regal isle]

use shamans crest it works like a charm

[light swan]

you just jump down and fight them normally

[graceful oyster]

Can't enter it until you get Apostate and then it's just a rampant rifle

[night ruin]

Its actually a lot worse an experience i hate the slab cause i didnt know you can skip the sequence

[light swan]

witch and beast are really good for survival too

[grizzled birch]

I dont have shaman

[graceful oyster]

Oh I see, yeah, just a normal fight

[night ruin]

I skipped slab breakout on all my playthroughs and it just kinda sucks

[regal isle]

are you in act 3

[nova summit]

I can’t even locate the towns anymore man it’s hard to find them when you have almost all maps

[grizzled birch]

Yes

[thin jewel]

you have to be in act 3 for flea festival

[night ruin]

Type shi

[toxic holly]

My personal tier list on the bosses
(Based on how much I liked the fight)

[light swan]

i hated the slab cuz i thought i was softlocked from ever exploring the area

turns out there was a hole in the ceiling

[graceful oyster]

I wish I did Slab sequence on my first playthrough, I was just too good and never got hit 😔

[night ruin]

No literally

[regal isle]

there is a secret passage in the ruined chapel where you find the shaman crest

[light swan]

same LOL i found out i killed the wardenfly without getting captured while trying to get to the rest of the slab

[graceful oyster]

Not having the map drove me crazy

[lofty shell]

definitive silksong boss tier list

[light swan]

"definitive" and second sentinel isnt even in the 2nd tier

[grizzled birch]

Thanks man

[night ruin]

I explored to the left whne i first entered choral chambers so i turned off the flag for the wardenfly without even knowng. Really sucky design

[nova summit]

I hate bile water I haven’t even fully explored it because I was so stressed at the stupid ass shakra quest

[young saffron]

Moss mother one over twort

[graceful oyster]

Ass Jim in worst is wrong btw

[light swan]

i just accidentally killed them without getting hit and im so mad

[lofty shell]

second sentinel is really peak and i liked it
its in the perfect spot

[karmic trail]

Not sure what I make of this ...
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4VmqFQzC4XI

[light swan]

second sentinel gets funner every time i fight them
they might be my most fought boss too...

[nova summit]

Do you guys have any advice for grand mother silk

[light swan]

yea ass jim is RIDICULOUSLY fun for no reason at all LOL

[light swan]

clawline

[graceful oyster]

Sleeper peak boss, I rank mid A

[covert bloom]

put seth higher 😭

[light swan]

i think i put them around B but my list never really had letter tiers

[night ruin]

Silkstorm go brrrrr

[young saffron]

Just stay calm the fights alot easier than it seems, she has little hp asw.

[misty storm]

I thought I beat GMS first try but no I died at the fakeout phase ;_;

[karmic trail]

she doesnt spawn minions, so thats good. Pay attention to her blades

[misty storm]

I did way better first try than I expected imo

[covert bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-ball-magic-you-know-ball-ykb-magic-ykb-gif-25740660

[light swan]

VERY cool is pretty much the S tier
truly peak are all tied for my 2nd favorite boss

[thin jewel]

how can i get a third silk heart

[covert bloom]

top 5 best bosses in the game

[light swan]

so yea jim is p much A tier

[thin jewel]

bottom five

[light swan]

fight the unravelled in whiteward

[covert bloom]

skill issue?

her entire moveset is so well telegraphed

[light swan]

only cuz youre struggling the boss itself is super fun and nice

[night ruin]

I can appreciate that unlike a lot of people you arent prejudiced against the early bosses

[thin jewel]

no it is really bad and annoying

[young saffron]

Imagine pantheon version of karmalita

[grizzled birch]

Uhh am i still able to get the third silk heart if the conductor is ded

[thin jewel]

maybe im just impatiant

[covert bloom]

no it's not 😭 Which moves arent telegraphed properly

[light swan]

i agree but also you dont have to be patient to fight karmelita

[karmic trail]

savage beatfly 1 is okay .... 2 is garbage
broodmother is actually F tier.

Personally I like something slower paced but more varied. Nothing beats a straightforward great slash of the blade.

[light swan]

just know when to attack which is all skill and strategy and battle iq

[night ruin]

Knowing when to strike is implied with patience i figure

[light swan]

i have no choice but to think of them differently and judge them purely on a first playthrough cuz none of them compare at all on consecutive playthroughs

[covert bloom]

gurr the outcast is the worst boss in the game

[light swan]

fair, i took it more as just wiating around aimlessly liol but that makes sense

[thin jewel]

SHE FUCKING TURNS INTO A BALL AND JUMPS DIRECTLY ONTO ME AND THEN SNIPES ME WITH HER BOOMERANGS AND THEN BONES ME AND THE SPINS ON ME ALL IN A MATTER OF 5 SECONDS

[night ruin]

She does bone you

[light swan]

lines up with what i think too

[covert bloom]

do you jump back?

[light swan]

dodge those attacks

[covert bloom]

cuz you gonna die if you do

[light swan]

you dont need to be patient to dodge

[covert bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[karmic trail]

which one's your favorite? Phantom?
She's pretty high on the list. Maybe first spot for me

[light swan]

favorite boss?

[night ruin]

Anyone got a link to a tierlist template that isnt actually dogwater

[covert bloom]

same, phantom is my favorite

[light swan]

lowkey really fun and satisfgying imo tbh

[nova summit]

Can I do another needle upgrade where I need 5 dishes before I fight grand mother silk or do I have to fight her first

[thin jewel]

my patience is negative so i just try and combo her until she dies

[covert bloom]

nah its annoying

[covert bloom]

dont do that 😭

[karmic trail]

yeah
idk trobbio is ... mixed. He's just so absurd it's funny

[covert bloom]

two hits AT most, maybe 3 if on wanderer's

[light swan]

you still need to dodge

aint no way youre complaining about karmelita because you dont want to dodge

[light swan]

my favorite boss is second sentinel

[nova summit]

I only have the crust nut

[karmic trail]

I respect him, but oddly its a bit boring. Even Lace is a bit more interesting

[grizzled birch]

Hey guys just saying I didn't fight forebrothers signis and gron in act 2

[trail holly]

who won area popularity vote

[thin jewel]

no its just because her attacks are really annoying

[covert bloom]

do you have the whispering vault one?

[light swan]

BILEWATERRRRRRRRRRRRR

[night ruin]

Fucking bilewater

[grizzled turtle]

when we first come across this guy, he's talking to two bugs despite being clearly haunted
the haunting is so weird bro

[covert bloom]

not really

[trail holly]

😔 i'll take it ig

[light swan]

ITS SO DESERVED

[covert bloom]

bilewater is cool lorewise

[night ruin]

Thats not a thing you wanna "not really" 😭

[nova summit]

Yes

[trail holly]

i mean i guess yeah it is

[covert bloom]

then yeah you gotta do the 5 dishes

[void moat]

haunted bugs still go about their duties and also retain certain higher functions such as being able to write, i wouldnt call this out of the ordinary

[light swan]

its also my favorite gameplaywise

[karmic trail]

I think its a cool fight if he doesnt call upon his pile of garbage npcs. His brother appearing 2nd phase is pretty cool

[light swan]

they die too fast and too easily for me to be concerned tbh

[covert bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-you're-a-liar-gif-14272023711621085937

[karmic trail]

depend on which act you fight them in. Personally I did act 2, despite having tier 4 needle still struggle a bit

[frozen creek]

am i the only one who walked into choral chambers and immediately thought of city of tears
it cant just be me, right?

[thin jewel]

that bossfight is so peak

[grizzled turtle]

I'm just glad the haunted aren't entirely mindless and there's a difference from the infection

[covert bloom]

they';re like 3 hits

[thin jewel]

where is the unravell dude

[covert bloom]

at least when I did it

[karmic trail]

yeah but they like clog up the space and annoys me

[light swan]

im under the impression they should be act 3 exclusive but i did fight them originally in act 2

[nova summit]

Guess I’ll delay mother silk till I do another upgrade

[covert bloom]

choral chambers is the COT of this game

[grizzled turtle]

signis legit calls in so many different guys to jump hornet and still lost 😭

[light swan]

nope im being 100% serious rn, so was everyone who voted bilewater

[grizzled turtle]

city of tears except it's not FULLY dead and still has some organization

[ashen beacon]

I first tried ||GMS||

[light swan]

you can immediately knock them into lava, and also its so easy to forget about signis to deal with them tbh

[grizzled turtle]

no big surprise

[ashen beacon]

I thought it was going to harder

[void moat]

signis and gron are lowkey pretty tuff

[covert bloom]

makes sense

[karmic trail]

idk its him and his brother, not him and his hoard
I still get to be upset about their minion

[keen mason]

Just ate banana bread it was peak

[grizzled turtle]

gms was kind of a disappointing fight ngl

[coarse leaf]

why is tiso so full of hate? is he stupid?

[void moat]

they have some aura, not as much as dedicated aurafarmers like watcher at the edge and moorwing through

[covert bloom]

when did you beat her

[thin jewel]

????

[light swan]

yea im not stopping you from having your opinion lol

[ashen beacon]

Just now

[light swan]

i personally think the minions are just not as bad as they are elsewhere

[coarse leaf]

under whiteward

[void moat]

whiteward

[covert bloom]

He only revels in battle

[keen mason]

He is a 7th grader

[thin jewel]

WHERE IN WHITEWARD

[grizzled turtle]

I first tried crawfather

[covert bloom]

idk what revel means

[void moat]

do you have the key you need to unlock the boss room

[covert bloom]

you gotta have a key or smth

[thin jewel]

which key

[grizzled turtle]

wait I just realized the craws are more than likely haunted and have an entire government system and CALLED HORNET TO COURT

[light swan]

im a witch crest user so i never first tried any boss (because i actually have to learn enemy attacks and cant just run away)

[grizzled turtle]

I think benjin and crull were right

[void moat]

the key you get from the hidden room

[karmic trail]

I hate putrified more. No idea why fleas moved there, is so horrible a place

[clear delta]

What if haunted bugs are totally conscious for the most part but instilled with aggressiveness against non haunted bugs and hivemind like behavior
And they're only seen as mindless by non haunted bugs is because all they do is attack

[keen mason]

Surgeon key

[grizzled turtle]

that's the most likely case ngl

[light swan]

putrified fucts is my lesat favorite area while bilewater is my favorite lol, the difference is funny

[karmic trail]

favorite idk is kinda crazy

[clear delta]

If you compare needolin dialogue of haunted bugs to the dream nail dialogue of infected bugs this becomes more compelling

[light swan]

bilewater easily is my top 1 experience in all of silksong

[void moat]

@thin jewel the key in the top-right-ish spot

[grizzled turtle]

the haunted citadel caste legit had written plans to capture hornet
there is absolutely no way they're mindless 😭

[clear delta]

True!

[light swan]

theres nothing ive ever done in the game that id say topped exploring bilewater for the first time

[clear delta]

I think a lot of the death of the citadel was because Lace killed everyoen

[dusky sphinx]

I JUST DID ABYSS ESCAPE FIRST TRY MY HEART IS POUNDING

[light swan]

average emo teenager

[keen mason]

Silk is controlling their bodies and not minds

[karmic trail]

even though the lava speed is adaptive. It's exciting nonetheless

[keen mason]

And only when there are non haunted bugs around

[void moat]

stupid kid with a sword killing all the adults so she doesnt have to go to school

[grizzled turtle]

yeah the needolin dialogue not only is in full sentences but they acknowledge the situation going on ("where is the song?") while the dream nail dialogue is fractured words and phrases that hardly make sense half the time

[clear delta]

Yep

[grizzled turtle]

the only ||minded instances of infected are the traitor mantises||

[keen mason]

A lot of dream nail dialogues say “too bright” “safe dark”

[grizzled turtle]

they're somehow able to resist

[clear delta]

There's Fools

[keen mason]

Implying radiance fills their mind with light

[grizzled turtle]

yeah that sounds like very basic thinking

[light swan]

is fools a species

[grizzled turtle]

ig they're still civil too

[clear delta]

Fools seem to be in the very early stages of infection though and perhaps using it as a steroid of sorts like Traitor Lord's whole plan

[karmic trail]

.. what is my favorite area?
the music from blasted steps is too hard to pass on. Judges are also really cool

[keen mason]

And the bright light makes them unable to think properly

[light swan]

i personally think blasted steps is too small to truly capture what it was going for

i think this for every single area except 3, so ignore me LOL

[clear delta]

Moss prophet is really weird
He is able to speak normally even with heavy infection but his dream nail is kinda typical for a infected bug if I remember
And even then it eventually catches up to him and kills him

[karmic trail]

its not that small but yeah its mostly just a parkour, though there's this pinstress room and the dice dude

[clear delta]

The hunter presumably saw the radiance btw

[light swan]

i notice how small it is when running back through for couriers rasher n stuff personally

[ruby dune]

I Mean The Ministers literally greet Hornet

[clear delta]

Might be one of my favourite journal entries

[clear delta]

Do they?

[ruby dune]

yeah they literally greet hornet

[clear delta]

I didn't catch that I should check

I just thought they rise up

[karmic trail]

idk; but yeah that is the least time spent area; though shellwood kinda counts too. You just run through the bottom. But it has verticality for the various stages of the game
though its ... sufficient. Not unlike hunters march, which kinda just blend in

[grizzled turtle]

to be fair he repeats the exact same sentences over and over and doesn't even acknowledge the fact the knight (enemy of the infection) is in the room

[light swan]

shellwood is only really like that cuz you open up shortcuts tbh

but yea shellwoods too small for me too

[clear delta]

He also doesn't notice the death of his followers
Might not fully be there

[karmic trail]

really? So what's not small

[clear delta]

I swear shellwood felt bigger than it actually was to me

[woven pendant]

I swear there's something up there, I've been trying some scuffed pogoing with Kratt but I need to know if there's actually something up there

[light swan]

bilewater, choral chambers, greymoor

(thats it)

[keen mason]

Act 3

[light swan]

theres an ending there

[karmic trail]

fair enough

[ruby dune]

ministers in high halls bow before they attack

[woven pendant]

Oh

[karmic trail]

kratt pogo is crazy

[clear delta]

I thought that was just kind them warming up I really need to check this again

[light swan]

i saw it more like a telegraph than a bow too tbh

[ruby dune]

considering the ministers are in high halls which has conductors

I assume ministers bowed before they were haunted but they still do it

[bold brook]

who the fuck dumped septic waste directly into team cherrys office to make them design those fopdoodle tatterdemallion teleporting twats in lost verdania

[grizzled birch]

Sooo I dont have silk soar so I cant get shaman yet

[light swan]

go get soar

[dusky sphinx]

lesgo every crest

[light swan]

wait i just realized

sea of sorrows probably is adding another crest

[grizzled birch]

I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE VOIDED ENEMYS THAT THE FOREBROTHERS SIGNIS AND GRON SUMMON

[kind tide]

Hey chayt? Erm. Uhhh erm uhm

[clear delta]

I don't see them bowing

[dusky sphinx]

"The Alchemist's Crest"

[light swan]

what if its a crest i like more than witch

[kind tide]

SHAW

[ruby dune]

the ministers say some kind of greeting before they attack i believe

[kind tide]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-cute-dance-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-2885488124335295136

[light swan]

so do most enemies

[keen mason]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hornet-shaw-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-13205433055363544945

[dusky sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-twerk-gif-17924720495531449328

[trail holly]

SON WHAT IS THIS

[kind tide]

[ruby dune]

maybe i am just stupid and they dont say a greeting

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[kind tide]

Thats a SHAW

[light swan]

no its not

[kind tide]

[dusky sphinx]

And then they flame Reaper

[light swan]

THIS is a shaw

[kind tide]

No thats a SAW

[dusky sphinx]

Thats a SHAWBLADE

[light swan]

erm first off i love reaper
unless youre saying thats reaper, in which case its not

[trail holly]

this is the pinnacle of sk discussion

[kind tide]

Wut is it

[light swan]

witch

[grizzled birch]

OH THATS JUST OH SO DAMN FUCKING ADORABLE

[dusky sphinx]

No I mean the people who do that flame reaper

[light swan]

...i love reaper tho

[dusky sphinx]

I KNOW

[dusky sphinx]

Same

[trail holly]

reaper is just wanderer with range

[misty storm]

I JUST BEAT GMS

[dusky sphinx]

THEY DO LITTLE JUMPS

[woven pendant]

Yeah lol

[light swan]

which means the people who do that (me) DONT flame reaper

[trail holly]

A or D

[karmic trail]

that overhead slash is actually OP. Probably so OP they have to nerf it to only overhead half the time
Pair with longclaw for reliable triple kills

[misty storm]

I just got the weaver queen ending

[dusky sphinx]

I started Act 3, I hate it.

[misty storm]

I still got act 3 left to unlock but at least I can say I’ve gotten an ending in silksong

[trail holly]

did you know if you press bind in 0.001 seconds and then immediately quit the game you unlock sevret weaver queen mode where you have gigantic spool and super masks

[grizzled birch]

Just wondering whats the best strategy to kill forebrothers signis and gron with the voided enemies

[somber ledge]

Guys I got another rock. What should I get with it? I can get the either the scuttlebrace or cogwork wheel from the architect or I can go to the lady in the deep docks and get the sting shard. Or should I save it for something later?

[trail holly]

it's peak except the lowlifes infected with void

[dusky sphinx]

idk push them into the lava pilliars ig i didnt do it

[karmic trail]

I dont think hornet liked that

[trail holly]

it's secret gamemode brooo

[dusky sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-slap-grindle-silksong-gif-8686429894569673815

[trail holly]

noncanon

[misty storm]

So what do I need to do to unlock act 3 again?

[trail holly]

silk and soul

[dusky sphinx]

1. Get fleas to final destination 2. Get 17 wish points (Wishwall quest = 1, Courier Quests = 0.5 not including Bone Bottom or Pilgrim's Rest

[light swan]

nearly every quest & fleas

[misty storm]

Does that include the courier quests

[light swan]

yea, note that i said nearly tho

[trail holly]

prerequisities
Required Wishes

Flexile Spines
Bone Bottom Repairs
A Lifesaving Bridge
Crawbug Clearing
Building Up Songclave
Strengthening Songclave
Restoration of Bellhart
Bellhart's Glory
Trail's End
Balm for the Wounded
Required Items

Faydown Cloak
Bellhome Key
Other Requirements

Move the Flea Caravan to Fleatopia (requires finding at least 22 Fleas across Pharloom).
Defeat Lace in The Cradle.
Acquire 17 or more "Quest Points"

[misty storm]

Ok that seems more manageable

[trail holly]

would you like to see quest points and their values

[misty storm]

I’ve gotten most quests and items so that’s good

[grizzled birch]

And the reward is

BABY BIDDLE BUDDIES AND OTHER STUFF!

[misty storm]

Sure I wanna know

[dusky sphinx]

Guys, any of y'all beat Act 3? I don't know what I should do next...

[grizzled birch]

Thats what Im tryna do rn get the sister of the void ending

[misty storm]

I remember that I have a friend that got into hk and saw some Silksong content and got obsessed with the biddle buddy

[dusky sphinx]

where u up to

[grizzled birch]

Uhhhh

[undone gate]

I haven't done everything in it but I have done True Ending

[summer shell]

Do you got 100% yet or no?

[grizzled turtle]

mods

[dusky sphinx]

Nah, 71%

[undone gate]

Get 100% then get all mementos

[misty storm]

How do I check completion

[dusky sphinx]

I'm up to old hearts

[summer shell]

Go collect charms and stuff

[dusky sphinx]

Unnoficial but has everything https://th3r3dfox.github.io/silksong-tracker/

[undone gate]

You need to get Farsight in Act 3

[summer shell]

There’s an item in the abyss

[trail holly]

There are 25 possible "Quest Points", 22 points from normal Wishes and 3 points from 6 repeatable Wishes, which only give points the first time they are completed.

1 Point
Berry Picking
An Icon of Hope
Rite of the Pollip
Volatile Flintbeetles
My Missing Courier
My Missing Brother
Pinmaster's Oil[Note 1]
The Terrible Tyrant
Fine Pins
Roach Guts
Great Taste of Pharloom
Alchemist's Assistant
Bugs of Pharloom
Silver Bells
Savage Beastfly
Broodfeast
Garb of the Pilgrims
The Wandering Merchant
The Lost Merchant
Final Audience
Cloaks of the Choir
The Wailing Mother

0.5 points
Bone Bottom Supplies
Pilgrim's Rest ""
Songclave ""
Fleatopia ""
Queen's Egg
Liquid Lacquer

[grizzled birch]

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK APPEARED ON MY RECOMMENDATIONS?

[undone gate]

Doesn't Far Sight just show all the missing items

[trail holly]

these are WISHES

[regal isle]

son im crine

[dusky sphinx]

im more worried that you have 2 digital circus shorts

[near plume]

gangle ❤️

[trail holly]

son

[regal isle]

also bro WHO are those on the right 😭

[grizzled birch]

Bro tadc is a good indie animation series

[trail holly]

horrible fanbase

[misty storm]

I have most done I think that I just need to get the fleas to fleatopia

[summer shell]

Dude they’re related

[jolly bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

[trail holly]

are they

[misty storm]

I was grinding side quests and literally couldn’t care less about that melody mumbo jumbo

[clear delta]

When The AFK Killer Randomly Wakes Up

[misty storm]

So yeah u have most quests done

[summer shell]

Yeah since lace would be hornets aunt since grandmother silk made herra and lace

[trail holly]

so it's just fleas

[dusky sphinx]

WHY IN ACT 3 THE WORLD JUST FUCKING ROARS??? SCARED THE LIFE OUTTA ME

[misty storm]

Idk I wanted to just do everything the game had to offer and didn’t care about the main objective

[summer shell]

It’s hungry

[undone gate]

The first thing I did in Act 2 were the melodies I did them even before double jump

[misty storm]

Yeah I already got the half fleas collected achievement

[trail holly]

i've heard gms only gave sentience to the weavers but because of how ambiguous the ship is i steer away from it

[misty storm]

I only did the melodies today and got like everything else done before that

[trail holly]

the quest itself is also pretty tedious

[undone gate]

You should have had a very easy time doing the main quest

[summer shell]

Ig yeah if the weavers are only elevated then lace and hornet aren’t blood related

[thin jewel]

what are the best 3 silk skills for shaman crest

[undone gate]

Did Shakra help you for high halls guantlet

[summer shell]

Shakra can help for high halls?

[trail holly]

lace is still referred to as a child a bunch of times so the ship is still kind of weird

[summer shell]

Yeah idk why it’s so popular

[undone gate]

So can garmond and zaza and you can also permanently kill the enemies which steal your silk to make the forum easier

[misty storm]

The only quests I haven’t done are the courier quests aside from bone bottom and pilgrims rest, Great Taste of Pharloom, Broodfeast, Final Audience, and The Wailing Mother, the last one is already activated so might as well do it ig

[trail holly]

i lowk skipped shakra on my steel soul run and wanted to finish as fast as possible and i dont have any map now and i cant find her anywhere LMAO

[verbal trench]

6% left (2 tools, shaman crest, pale nails, mask, everbloom) then mementos and a few relics, and i'll have truly 100% my true steel soul save

[summer shell]

Omg I thought only garmond and zaza could and I learned after the gauntlet

[undone gate]

Cross Stitch,Thread Storm and Pale Nails

[undone gate]

With Shakra the Guantlet is practically trivial

[summer shell]

Dang I gotta start a new save and check it out

[verbal trench]

yeah shakra makes the gauntlet a lot more manageable

[undone gate]

You need to finish trails end to make shakra help you

[verbal trench]

i'm not sure what the criteria is to get her to help

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

[thin jewel]

is cross stitch really taht good

[summer shell]

Oh I never would’ve done that

[undone gate]

More like Trivial since Shakra is so OP

[undone gate]

It helps avoid damage during bad situations which is good on a crest that has a bad heal

[orchid locust]

why is the it pronoun font size larger than the others 💀

[somber ledge]

Ok I did some research and now it is just between cogwork wheel and sting shard. Which one would help more for the cogwork dancers? They are very hard

[tulip skiff]

⁶🤷⁷

[misty storm]

I got the faydown cloak before I even got a single melody LMAO

[summer shell]

How did I just see that the pronouns were displayed 💔

[scenic yew]

I'm I the only one who did the high halls guantlet without shakara

[undone gate]

Are Cogwork Dancers that hard I found them easier than the Last Judge

[summer shell]

I did it without

[ruby dune]

HOLY CLUTCH

[somber ledge]

Last judge is easy. Cogwork dancers are too fast

[undone gate]

Lot of people fight it without Shakra the requirements is a lot

[gilded umbra]

MY SUFFERING HAS ENDED

[misty storm]

She didn’t appear

[summer shell]

They were really easy weren’t they

[ruby dune]

I was doing courier rasher and it was almost 0 but i reached the old guy

[dry pollen]

https://youtube.com/shorts/kSgP_mzwhAk?si=OAmGiC3KkhCSMXul

[undone gate]

I wouldn't say they were really easy but they were super manageable

[scenic yew]

Lowkey its not that much you just have to get past sinner roads

[somber ledge]

I am just going to choose stingshard then

[misty storm]

I cheesed the high halls gauntlet by using ascendants grip and wispfire lantern to just stall them out

[gilded umbra]

100% 🥹

[undone gate]

You need to finish Trails End to get Shakras help which requires navigating most of Bilewater

[summer shell]

Yeah they were a bit tricky at my first pay through

[scenic yew]

Yea which is around sinner road maybe bilewater idk I never did it

[somber ledge]

I think I just have bad reaction time. After phase 2 it's super hard for me

[undone gate]

It just took some time getting used to their sword while they dash to the ground and their tall hitbox

[summer shell]

Yeah the fiat couple times were somewhat annoying and the first time doing 3rd phase was annoying

[undone gate]

It's most of Bilewater and Bilewater is really hard also you have to have bought the map of every area

[verbal trench]

wait shitttt i forgot to fight shakra in my save

fuckkkk. womp womp

[undone gate]

Just reload back the save

[verbal trench]

nah i've already progressed pretty far in it

[wary raptor]

[verbal trench]

it's chill. i don't care for missing out on a journal entry

[undone gate]

You can just go to a previous Auto Save then fight Shakra no need for a new save

[verbal trench]

yeah but i'd rather not go through the start of act 3 again

i'm on a "no quit outs" rule

this includes the start of act 3 so no health cheese

[undone gate]

I think you should be able to return to your original Auto Save though I don't know

[rocky token]

is phase 2 widow of bellhart even possible

[summer shell]

Yeah

[rocky token]

i look at the silk for 1 sec and suddenly 50k bells are raining down upon me and im getting bombared with slashes

[undone gate]

Yes and it just requires some patience

[wicked mason]

Pretty easy actually

[verbal trench]

here's a tip: if she does 3 bell throws in a row, her next attack will always be running at you

[rocky token]

lend me your wisdom

[wicked mason]

Just focus on the bells

Dont just brute force it

[undone gate]

Just hit her when she does the bell don't chase her and when she does the sword attack you can do a pogo

[undone gate]

Compared to other stuff in Act 1 it's pretty hard

[rocky token]

thank you guys for your wisdom

[wicked mason]

Agreed

[rocky token]

shes a huge difficulty spike from sister splinter and the fourth corus

[verbal trench]

it's a pretty significant spike in difficulty compared to fights prior to widow such as sister splinter

[lunar lily]

I'm waiting for my ||lace|| plush (spoiler marked just incase idk)

[rocky token]

they have a lace plush?

[wicked mason]

You travelled with the fleas?

[thin jewel]

3rd boss of the game btw

[undone gate]

Yea she was the 1st boss I took around 1 hour in

[rocky token]

i beat moorwing

[wicked mason]

Alr

[old cedar]

what the actual fuck is act three and why did i get jumpscared by a scream, what the actual flying fliggleflaggle

[lunar lily]

Idc

[rocky token]

i beat moorwing 2 months ago and then i beat moorwing again 2 days ago and he seemed so hard last time but now he seems kinda easy

[wicked mason]

Thou cring'st

[verbal trench]

have fun!

[undone gate]

He was slightly nerfed

[verbal trench]

yeah they nerfed him a lot

[old cedar]

the fuck you mean have fun????

[trail holly]

fuckkkkk

[lunar lily]

What?

[undone gate]

It's not that big

[verbal trench]

:)

[wicked mason]

Id say it's a big nerf because those flying saw blades were the whole damage source really

[verbal trench]

what actually did they nerf about him? i don't remember

[rocky token]

why her weapon look like a brown candy cane

[undone gate]

They are really easy in Phace 1 and a bit hard in Phace 2 it did make sence why Team Cherry nerfed Moorwing

[rocky token]

i think the ball things

[solemn goblet]

holy crap

[wicked mason]

Sawblade damage 2>1

[verbal trench]

i beat him for the first time pre nerf and then beat him again post nerf but i don't know what the difference is

[old cedar]

FUCK THIS GAME THEY KILLED MY BELL BEAST

[verbal trench]

ohhhh

[verbal trench]

avenge them

[rocky token]

avenge them and kill thy bell murderer

[plucky stag]

i haven't beaten gurr the outcast post buff yet; this is one of the reasons i'm not combining achievements when it's time to replay

[undone gate]

Yea people were exaggerating this nerf and even the Sister Splinter nerf

[plucky stag]

just keep playing

[solemn goblet]

ther was a sister splinter nerf?

[wicked mason]

What did they even nerf about sister splinter? The minions or what

[verbal trench]

wasnt the sister splinter nerf just that the little guys couldnt do double damage anymore?

[wary raptor]

Where?

[undone gate]

Yea just the minions now deal 1 mask

[rocky token]

i thought they still did

[thin jewel]

YOU WANT TO DO WHAT TO LACE

[rocky token]

when did they nerf them

[wicked mason]

The room that has the big rosary husk

[solemn goblet]

room on bottom left shellwood

[summer shell]

Shellwood

[wicked mason]

Kinda fair ngl they were annoying asf

[wary raptor]

Big rosary husk??

[verbal trench]

the minions seemed chill pre nerf but i understand why theyd get nerfed

[wicked mason]

The guy with a rosary chain

[wary raptor]

Did you react to the wrong person

[verbal trench]

yes i did lmao sorry

[wary raptor]

OOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhh thanks😎

[undone gate]

Yea anyways these nerfs don't really make the game that much easier since Widow and Last Judge still exist in Act 1

[wicked mason]

Lol yeah

[sharp garnet]

ISTG THE GODDAM BILEHAVEN ARENA BATTLE VRO

[thin jewel]

i never saw that and found him by accident

[sharp garnet]

I COULDNT EVEN GET TO GROAL BECAUSE OF IT

[verbal trench]

last judge is pretty tough but fuck they're a fun fight

[wicked mason]

Chamaule

[verbal trench]

oh shit they got buffed? how so?

[lunar lily]

I'M CRYING

[undone gate]

Yea it's also really easy to beat again once you learn her 4 attacks

[thin jewel]

oh no are you ok

[undone gate]

Just jump and pogo the enemies it should work mostly

[wicked mason]

Probably my 2nd favorite boss in the whole game I really liked the gameplay at first glance but others weren't so happy with it lol

[lunar lily]

Is there a theory channel?

[summer shell]

There’s a lore channel that you can use

[wicked mason]

Aka mossbag

[rocky token]

fighting the widow woman thing idk her name is so fun but so annoying at the same time

[undone gate]

Last Judge is the best Act 1 boss people just complain about the difficulty and the runback that is like 20 seconds long

[rocky token]

her bells carry her difficulty

[limber jungle]

thats fucking insane

[verbal trench]

her name is just "widow" i don't think she's ever referred to with an actual name

[rocky token]

i mean the widow runback isnt much better

[wicked mason]

Runback isn't hard just kinda annoying but it's just 2 rooms so yeah

[rocky token]

especially if you dont avoid the bugs

[summer shell]

My friend kept trying to use beast crest to beat last judge and died to the runback a bunch

[undone gate]

It does have less parkour and enemies

[verbal trench]

i pray for the people who consider last judge's runback annoying

[limber jungle]

I enjoy last judge's runback

[undone gate]

Do you go through upper bellhart each time for Widow since there is a faster shortcut

[soft belfry]

Me who did the extended version of last judge and widow runback 💀

[limber jungle]

reminds me alot of white palace even though it is considerably easier than white palace

[wicked mason]

Just annoying to wait for the conch flies (or whatever they're called) to move out of the way and sniping me out of nowhere

[verbal trench]

you can run past the first guy

[soft belfry]

No rosary challenge so no bellway bench

[undone gate]

You can just directly sprint jump before they even spawn

[languid swallow]

Hot take: lost lace is easy

[wicked mason]

[languid swallow]

I beat her first try without getting hit frfr

[trail holly]

need to buy but im lowk poor

[misty storm]

How many fleas are there in Silksong

[wicked mason]

30

[undone gate]

30

[summer shell]

30

[wicked mason]

Damn

[trail holly]

30

[misty storm]

I just got 30 bombed

[soft belfry]

It's annoying cos you have a chance to lose hp which means ur two shot by last judge instead of 3

[lunar lily]

I'm hornet with a lace plush

[undone gate]

A lot of HK runbacks are worce than the Last Judge runback

[misty storm]

Last judge runback wasn’t that hard tbh

[soft belfry]

Guys it's not 30

[undone gate]

You can get 6hp before Last Judge pretty easily

[misty storm]

A bit annoying sure but nothing special

[soft belfry]

You need to count mooshaka

[trail holly]

for example absrad

[rocky token]

wait you can get 6hp?

[summer shell]

My friend who started playing hated mantis lords run back

[rocky token]

please tell me how

[soft belfry]

You can also get hit 2 times

[weary hatch]

Fractured mask 🤔

[undone gate]

Yea you can get a total of 6 mask shards in Act 1

[summer shell]

Oh mb

[weary hatch]

Thats 7 masks!

[rocky token]

ima look it up

[verbal trench]

there are 6 mask shards available in act 1, you need 4 to get 1 extra mask

[soft belfry]

Anyway yea but max of 6 unless you come back much later

[soft belfry]

6.5 masks

[undone gate]

4 Mask shards give 1 Mask so 6 is just 1 Mask and 2 Shards

[weary hatch]

+Fractured mask

[summer shell]

Yo

[weary hatch]

Mask doesnt look like a word anymore

[undone gate]

Makes sence but it's more like a temporary Mask and can block 2 masks of damage as just 1 mask

[trail holly]

real

[soft belfry]

The masked mask man masked himself with a mask to unmask the other masked mask man

[weary hatch]

😎

[weary hatch]

Its... Its all mask...

[wicked mason]

How the fuck would he do that

[trail holly]

stop saying mask

[soft belfry]

And also "the"

[verbal trench]

6 mask shards are in act 1, 10 mask shards in act 2, 4 mask shards in act 3
however 2 of the act 3 mask shards (the one in far fields and the one in mount fay) are apparently obtainable with skips, though said skips may have been patched out

[austere lotus]

Guess who forgot about craft metal and bought fucking SCUTTLE BRACE right before stumbling upon cog flies

[summer shell]

Nothing from the hk games looks like a word I’ve become brain rotted

[soft belfry]

What's the issue

[trail holly]

STOP FUCKING SAYING MASK

[static moat]

will using a save file modifier automatically give me the achievements?

[wicked mason]

Did he scare him or what the fuck happened here 🙏

[soft belfry]

Not even King?

[trail holly]

can we censor m*sk

[weary estuary]

whats wrong with mask

[austere lotus]

Mask

Kasm

[verbal trench]

is masc better. masculine shards

[summer shell]

Omg pale king

[austere lotus]

Chasm

[boreal viper]

is that popeyes or kfc

[weary hatch]

Me seeing the words "shade" "abyss" "silk" "lace" outside of hk contexts

[austere lotus]

Icy Chasm

[weary estuary]

KFC

[soft belfry]

It's a convoluted way to say one guy put on his mask (likely over another mask) to remove another guy's mask

[austere lotus]

Hornet is Kyurem

[soft belfry]

What are you modifying

[soft belfry]

Lace gets me a lot

[cerulean sable]

would The Choir be strong enough to bridge the Fulda Gap in a hypothetical scenario in 1989?

[summer shell]

I played silksong from like 7pm-3am last night and all I can think of is hollow k got and silksong

[verbal trench]

i can't believe they added the hallow from the hallow knight into terraria

[summer shell]

What are we talking about

[austere lotus]

How do you check how many craft metals you've used

I'm gonna fucking scream

[trail holly]

yes

[summer shell]

Memory I think

[hexed sigil]

new emoji

[static moat]

I just bought silksong on pc for mods so I want to just get a completed save file to do stuff with, but I think that will give me achievements I didn't actually earn like the steel soul ones

[cerulean sable]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulda_Gap

[soft belfry]

If you max journal entries apparently the achievement for all only gets when you kill another enemy

[astral tartan]

Yall gimme ur opinion is wanderers or reapers ass

[cerulean sable]

the Choir would be doing the attacking here

[wicked mason]

Uuuu nuuuu

[gloomy hill]

why not both

[astral tartan]

Nah wanderers better

[weary estuary]

weaper

[wicked mason]

Wanderer legit needs to be nerfed

[summer shell]

Ah I see

[thin jewel]

both good for their respective purposes

[soft belfry]

If the completed save file isn't in steel soul you won't get steel soul achievements

If you don't beat a boss for completion before the save file passes 5h/30h then it also won't give that one

[astral tartan]

[austere lotus]

I don't understand what you mean by this, dawg

[soft belfry]

Look in wiki to see all uses, and see how many you have

[verbal trench]

ur brain

[astral tartan]

I honestly prefer wanderers tbh

[summer shell]

There’s no way in game I’m pretty sure

[cerulean sable]

"Reaper is ass" you say but you forget the fact that Reaper has a swag money sprint uppercut that gives you a ton of wealth, respect, women and power just by executing it

[austere lotus]

FUCK

[wicked mason]

I've done my first playthrough with hunter but I tried wanderer then and I swear it's op

[cerulean sable]

This is what Reaper haters always forget

[thin jewel]

in depends on the boss

[soft belfry]

Reapers is good for bosses with almost no openings imo

[astral tartan]

Grimm copy

[undone gate]

Neighter they both are good in different situations

[austere lotus]

my dumb ass really was like "don't wanna forget scuttle brace for completion"

[static moat]

I would still get all spool fragments unfairly (im missing one, have been playing without google) but its just one achievment so idc

[austere lotus]

Granted I hadn't found any of the songs yet

[wicked mason]

Literally just hold sprint and press attack 😔

[austere lotus]

But I'd just done the mountain and gotten double jump

[astral tartan]

Reapers is litterly hornet copying Grimm

[verbal trench]

reaper uppercut saved my grandma

[summer shell]

Gim

[undone gate]

And for exploration

[wicked mason]

Elaborate

[summer shell]

What is ur grandma doing bruh

[verbal trench]

also reaper just feels cool as fuck idgaf about damage numbers

[wicked mason]

The thing with reaper is it's slow it makes me feel so heavy for some reason

[astral tartan]

Honestly wanderers is better for exploration cause of muscle memory

[undone gate]

Not really hitting flying enemies with it sucks

[wary raptor]

Is pinstress supposed to be here or something what is this

[soft belfry]

Everyone googles the missing ones that one isn't a particularly controversial one

[verbal trench]

that's kinda what i like about it. it feels like a heavy build. when i used it, it gave like. a placebo effect where i felt like a tank

[astral tartan]

Long claw + flea brew

[summer shell]

That’s a birb moth thingy talk to it

[wary raptor]

I can’t

[undone gate]

Yea you need 2 tools just do deal with flying enemies

[wicked mason]

Man team cherry should have NOT added crests because this is the result: people arguing on which one's the best and not giving a shit about opinions

[austere lotus]

Ok how do you get wreath of purity

[summer shell]

Wait do you already have faydown

[astral tartan]

I main long claw anyways

[soft belfry]

Ehh I don't like the pogo

[static moat]

i know but I still dont want to

[wary raptor]

Yes

[weary estuary]

You have to go to pintress place to start the quest

[austere lotus]

Your boy is gonna need to go to the petrified ducts

[summer shell]

The pintress boss fight is lower down the Liberian

[weary estuary]

And she's down lower

[undone gate]

It's the most lenient pogo

[wary raptor]

I already did

[soft belfry]

Just find it for reals in the other version to make it up

[wicked mason]

You like that I guess, everyone likes something

[weary estuary]

Ok then go lower you're way too high

[thin jewel]

fuck you karmelita

[wicked mason]

SILENCE!

[soft belfry]

I seem to mistime it or smth

[inland ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollowknight-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-silksong-hornet-gif-12589665683144653208

[wicked mason]

Karmelita is 1# boss in the entire hollow knight series

[inland ravine]

dumb-ass princess knight dives into the moss berry soup pot and fucking dies

[summer shell]

Just go lower down the mountain and you’ll find them

[undone gate]

You just shouldn't activate it too close to the enemy

[summer shell]

Bro I though I would get something if I died to the pot

[soft belfry]

Particularly in bilewater

[static moat]

Karmelita is my favorite boss ive ever fought in any game as of rn

[inland ravine]

same 😭

[verbal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-hollow-knight-silksong-lesbian-gif-1047419076495225461

[grizzled birch]

Okay so apparently with hivesteel needle when fighting forebrothers signis and gron you only do a 0.95 damage input

[wicked mason]

I might have changed my mind, pure vessel is 1# and karmelita is 2#

[undone gate]

I used Reaper in Bilewater and it make exploring it really easy

[verbal trench]

the needle's damage values are so weird

[summer shell]

I was very disappointed but I managed to convince my friend to die to it

[wicked mason]

E n e m y t a n k

[undone gate]

For me she is like Top 10 not Top 5 including both games

[astral tartan]

YALL GIMME UR OTHER OPINION WOULD PHANTOM OR BASE LACE WIN IN A ALL OUT FIGHT TO THE DEATH

[wicked mason]

Lace

[summer shell]

Ace

[astral tartan]

Explain

[astral tartan]

Explain

[verbal trench]

wait you can jump in the moss lady's pot

[soft belfry]

I'm used to hunter pogo ig the down pogo pulls me way too down into enemies and doesn't seem to bounce as high

[verbal trench]

oh my god i never tried that

[tight delta]

Yo does anyone know any tricks for groal the great?

[undone gate]

For me PV,AbsRad,LL,NKG,FS are all better than Karmalita

[gloomy hill]

Phantom

[soft belfry]

Spam curveclaw and threefold

[astral tartan]

Explain

[tight delta]

Thanks

[verbal trench]

have you gotten a tool called "wreath of purity" yet?

[wicked mason]

Phantom deals less damage in most of her moves, and considering this is a fight to the death, lace would definitely be in her 2nd fight form (faster, more damage, more hp) and phantom is kinda slow so.

[tight delta]

No

[wicked mason]

Whats fs?

[astral tartan]

Wait guys I just realized I NEVER FOUGHT PHANTOM WTH IM IN ACT 3

[undone gate]

First Sinner

[astral tartan]

Oh

[verbal trench]

there's an area above bilewater accessible from the citadel. explore a lil bit more

[wicked mason]

Alr

[gloomy hill]

no

[wary raptor]

Was this supposed to be where her fight was

[undone gate]

The fight will be way to easy for you

[astral tartan]

Yea Uhm she cooked

[tight delta]

Purified ducts

[summer shell]

Yes wait for her to wake up maybe like hit her i forgot

[safe wigeon]

So they kill garmond but let kraft live......

[tight delta]

I will explore it

[wicked mason]

Plot twist: Lost Phantom

[trail holly]

cant you technically fight phantom in exhaust organ in act 3

or am i wrong

[verbal trench]

smack her

[undone gate]

You can she will just be super easy in Act 3

[wicked mason]

I thought she was dead at firat

[astral tartan]

Is phantom easy or what

[undone gate]

She is pretty hard for Act 1

[trail holly]

in fucking act 3 yeah

[astral tartan]

She’s in act 1😭😭

[weary hatch]

Yes thats what i did

[trail holly]

alternate act 2 entrance

[astral tartan]

Bruh how did I not know

[trail holly]

phantom hasn't a confirmed gender right

[tight delta]

What can you do with wreath of purity

[undone gate]

Yep though a lot of people fight her in Act 2

[verbal trench]

you'll see

[astral tartan]

So where can I fight her

[verbal trench]

just wait and see

[tight delta]

Ok

[marsh spoke]

i'm washed

[trail holly]

somebody answerrrrr

[undone gate]

I am pretty sure yea she doesn't have a conformed gender

[astral tartan]

WHERE CAN I FOGHT PHANTOM PLS SAY

[rocky token]

wait im in act 1 rn and the hunters journal says i have to defeat lace again how do i do that

[verbal trench]

i believe they're nonbinary, only they/them pronouns are used for them

[wicked mason]

She sounds like a girl tbh

[rocky token]

i fought her in deep docks

[trail holly]

act 2 in the cradle

[rocky token]

whos phantom

[marsh spoke]

you can just Open the inventory to see what it does

[rocky token]

ah ok

[astral tartan]

Before gms fight you fight her

[trail holly]

alternate act 2 entrance boss in the exhaust organ

[undone gate]

There is a secret enterence to the mist from Sinners Road

[verbal trench]

here's phantom's journal entry as evidence for being genderless

[wicked mason]

She is voiced by a woman, right?

[glossy star]

umm guys

[verbal trench]

i don't know who voices phantom but their character is genderless

[wicked mason]

Talking about gender is really controversial so I don't think I'll go further

[verbal trench]

what

[wicked mason]

Even in a video game xd

[void moat]

this isnt really evidence cause many other journal entries use they/them

we do however, see lace calling her sister

[wicked mason]

When tho

[void moat]

in the needolin cutscene

[wicked mason]

Well that says everything then

[clever sable]

it's unclear if it's lace calling phantom sister or vice versa

[wary raptor]

yooo yay 3rd try guys this is why you always be patient

[verbal trench]

most of the other entries that use they/them are referring to a species as a whole though

[wicked mason]

She doesn't have any other sisters than phantom

[clever sable]

that's not what vice versa means 🤦

[void moat]

it’s pretty clear, in the cutscene phantom is clearly incapacitated in a lifepod

[wicked mason]

Doesnt vice versa mean "and the opposite works"

[clever sable]

i'm saying it might also be phantom calling lace sister

[wicked mason]

Ive never seen phantom talk

[clever sable]

lace is always referred to as she/her, phantom is always referred to as they/them in the text that's unambiguously about them

[wicked mason]

But might be needolin so

[misty storm]

I just realized I haven’t even been to bilewater/putrified ducts should I go there I might need some fleas and tools from there but I’ve heard so much about those areas