sk-discussion

[dire flume]

I was thinking abuts this

[gloomy hill]

wrong image lmao

[dire flume]

Yes yes

[foggy fossil]

guys trust me this game awards was fake because Bloodborne 2 didn't get announced

[fickle prawn]

THIS BITCH KILLED ME WHILE I WAS HEALING IN THE AIR 😭

[slow pasture]

Are the cogwork dancers flying?

[fickle prawn]

this bitch just can't die (talking about lace btw)

[inland wind]

this is genuine advice try beast crest before judging

[pulsar patrol]

which one

[fickle prawn]

2

[frigid fable]

use reapers

[calm bough]

The humble purple spikes

[pulsar patrol]

architect spam go brr

[devout garden]

Now we can talk about silksong gameplay?

[green kestrel]

GO COGFLIES GO

[pulsar patrol]

along with the terrific volt vessels

[plucky stag]

give it another day or two to let the salty seas subside

[inland wind]

no, rename this channel into E33-Discussion

we don’t talk about some mid game that won only 1 game award

[plucky stag]

even though i never expected silksong to win goty i was still disappointed

[devout garden]

There's a server for that ya know

[fickle prawn]

I did I died in two seconds

[pulsar patrol]

RANDOM BULLSHIT BUILD GO

[plucky stag]

i'd have thought we'd have won some of the other awards, but i guess not

[split tide]

atp just call this e33 server

[pulsar patrol]

crazy as if he didn’t just say that

[green kestrel]

Just rename Discord to E33

[split tide]

i am illiterate, how can you expect a skonger to read

[inland wind]

E33 gets elected to the president of united states

[pulsar patrol]

damn

[green kestrel]

E1331, right?

[fickle prawn]

atp just call the USA the united states of expedition 33

[foggy fossil]

Hollow Knight: Expedition 33

[lapis musk]

I never played E33, I heard it's good.

Any factual information?

[vocal ermine]

Id Play it but my pc would combust

[strange knot]

E33 sucks

[lapis musk]

Resource heavy..

[strange knot]

Definitely not ragebaiting

[lapis musk]

I've heard a ton about the OST of the game

[vocal ermine]

My pc cant even run fortnite on lowest settings last time i checked

[lapis musk]

Christ. What do you run it on???

[vocal ermine]

Idk much bout pcs

[lapis musk]

🥀

[green kestrel]

Same, I run a potato

[lapis musk]

My laptop is on the lower end, but not absolutely dogshit. So I'm grateful

[vocal ermine]

But when my friends saw the parts i used they kept talking about how terrible it is

[left bramble]

just how good is expedition 33 💔

is this too much glaze

[lapis musk]

No clue, never saw gameplay of it

[vocal ermine]

So good that they did 32 before

[green kestrel]

Honestly it depends on your taste, if you like turned-based rpgs, then definitely

[lapis musk]

Turn based.. I'd deffo give it a try but

[rotund vortex]

I've listened to the whole 33 OST and it's nothing compared to Silksong or even Doom

[lapis musk]

My laptop is NOT handling that

[strange knot]

Same

[inland wind]

It is honestly very good, reminiscent of Final Fantasy except it’s actually good instead of Nostalgiabaiting for 294820th time

[left bramble]

real

i would try exp33 but my laptop is too potato 💔

[rotund vortex]

it's doggy doo compared to Silksong

[green kestrel]

Real, if I want a firework show, I’ll just wait till new years instead of making my laptop run E33

[vocal ermine]

How is it the FINAL fantasy if there are so many of them

[strange knot]

My laptop barely handle modded silksong. I don’t think it will handle something like e33

[lapis musk]

Lots of people glaze it tbh, and they say skong ost isn't memorable while having their music on the lowest settings.

[green kestrel]

I love karmelita’s ost, it’s so fire

[inland wind]

I do have to say, lot of silksong boss osts were underwealming, there are good ones but not that notable

[lapis musk]

Been stuck in my head for a while.

[marsh spoke]

e33 requirements are alright what the fuck are you people talking about

[strange knot]

I love bilewater and final dive

[vocal ermine]

My favorite ost is prob the one from the conductors gauntlet or phantom

[lapis musk]

My laptop would combust

[strange knot]

Mine too

[vocal ermine]

Its still too much for mine lol

[inland wind]

There is just no “The Hollow Knight” ost equivalent of song in Silksong

[green kestrel]

Unreal makes it pretty heavy though, even if you meet minimum requirements

[lapis musk]

^

[green kestrel]

Other than Goral boss fight and his run back, I don’t really understand the hate of bile water, just equip Wreath of Purity

[wet vessel]

i have a macbook air m2 and 16GB max memory

[rotund vortex]

fr, like a lot of the E33 OST is just generic techno music for boss themes or non-memorable orchestral music, nothing compared to Karmelita's theme

[green kestrel]

E33 is a pipe dream

[strange knot]

Groal boss fight good tho. The only bad thing is gauntlet and runback

[green kestrel]

Okay fuck no, e33's OST is gorgeous and you're coping if you say its generic lmao 😭

[marsh spoke]

yeah its big on disk but the requirements are crazy optimised for what it is

[wet yoke]

How hard/annoying is the moss mother duo fight?

[lapis musk]

Widow ost was pretty memorable too, I think they used it for FS because they're both weavers though..(?)

[wet vessel]

btw its a school laptop and i have 10 games on it 😭🙏 might be cooked ngl

[vocal ermine]

Do IT early and its fine

[tidal hearth]

Easy as the first.

[sleek spade]

How many awards did E33 win?

[wet vessel]

ez, used beast crest and its fun

[inland wind]

I love E33 but I don’t know about art direction route

[paper wing]

9

[strange knot]

9

[vocal ermine]

Dont postpone it just go do it

[wet vessel]

true

[lapis musk]

Wb skong

[strange knot]

1

[sleek spade]

Dang

[rotund vortex]

it is you glazer, I've listened to the whole OST, it's not bad, but nothing compared to Silksong, I didn't save a single E33 OST to my playlist, whereas I'm listening to multiple silksong boss themes at the gym

[lapis musk]

The fuck

[orchid locust]

art direction is the only award i disagree with that one should’ve been hades 2 or silksong

[sleek spade]

https://x.com/milwkwy_art/status/1999326640632168651?s=46
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Milwkwy (@milwkwy_art)

Today on The Game Awards….

#TGA2025 #TheGameAwards #TheGameAwards2025 #Silksong #hollowknight

X · Dec 12, 2025, 3:53 AM

[paper wing]

It won action/adventure

[marsh spoke]

8gb min ram and GTX1060 in an age where teh standard is slowly becoming 32b ram and 4090s is really well optimised actually

[lapis musk]

Well... That's SOMETHING.

[inland wind]

DS2 was pretry good on that too

[strange knot]

My reaction. Why tf didn’t it win indie and art direction

[green kestrel]

Yeah I was mainly talking about his gauntlet

[rotund vortex]

I love dark souls 2

[sleek spade]

Oh nice
I thougt hades 2 won that for some reason
I didnt watch the show so thats probablt why

[rotund vortex]

actually Death Stranding 2 deserved the OST, I listen to multiple of the boss themes every other day

[strange knot]

Hades 2 won action

[rotund vortex]

nothing compared to E33

[tidal hearth]

Hades 2 won something. What was it?

[orchid locust]

1060 is crazy good for a ue5 game damn

[strange knot]

Action

[sleek spade]

Theres action and action/adventure?

[tidal hearth]

ooh yeah

[inland wind]

I LOVE DARK SOUL 2

[strange knot]

Yes

[sleek spade]

Huh neat

[gloomy hill]

come on don't do this

[rotund vortex]

lmao

[median ivy]

how were the clair obscur awards

[frosty kelp]

Awww e33 won goty

[strange knot]

Silksong must’ve win art and indie

[tidal hearth]

Action games were stacked too, holy.

[frosty kelp]

Nope e33 won indie

[inland wind]

it was amazing year for gaming

[steel veldt]

Boring ahh game awards

[strange knot]

Whyyyyyyyyyy????????? It’s not indie

[rotund vortex]

literally every other game other than E33 had a better OST, Death Stranding 2, Silksong, Doom, etc

[tidal hearth]

Yeah absolutely.

[orchid locust]

nah canonically they’re chilling in australia cs team cherry didn’t even show up

[sleek spade]

Nice lol

[strange knot]

It won art direction for some reason as well

[gloomy hill]

uh yeah....it went about as expected, e33 now also holds the record for most TGA awards won

[wet vessel]

dlc or zoteboat

[fickle prawn]

I WAS THIS CLOSE

[tidal hearth]

So it did win more than BG3? Interesting.

[fickle prawn]

SO FUCKING CLOSE I'M GENIUENLY LOSING MY SHIT

[gloomy hill]

how many did bg3 win anyway?

[inland wind]

they said something like they’d like to use that time to develop some content for silksong and wrap it up, gigachads lowk

[grand adder]

He died for our shins
-Skater 102

[sleek spade]

Have you tried the Pluey tool?

[inland wind]

they put bro’s face on the Awards like he’s dead

[fickle prawn]

THAT SHIT DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST

[orchid locust]

i personally am grateful silksong wasn’t goty because i enjoy talking here sometimes and i don’t think that enjoyment would’ve lasted long with the goty crowd

[sand sinew]

They got the attention they deserved. I would take pride in my work rather than awards

[inland wind]

just use mark of pride

[sleek spade]

Pluey is real

[marsh spoke]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

[wet vessel]

we chill with them

[fickle prawn]

THAT SHIT DOESN'T EXIST

[strange knot]

This looks so funny, lmao

[green kestrel]

😭😭

[fickle prawn]

MARK OF PRIDE ISN'T IN S ILKSONG

[inland wind]

Yes it is

[uneven cargo]

Yes it is smh my head

[exotic cedar]

Longclaw

[green kestrel]

Fake it till you make it

[wet vessel]

mostly we enjoy waiting for absolute grand mother silk 🔥🔥🗣️

[tidal hearth]

It was 5. Wasnt as many as i remembered.

[uneven cargo]

Nah its called mark of pride, longclaw is in hollow knight

[inland wind]

Ts shit bludtato doesn’t know about the best tool in the game 💔

[strange knot]

Circlet?

[gloomy hill]

This shit was so funny icl

[still elm]

Congrats on the posthumous nomination, Chris

[strange knot]

Would yall play new tc game, if it wasn’t hk themed

[gloomy hill]

Christopher Larking shot dead at Peacock Theatre 😭

[green kestrel]

Yes

[frosty kelp]

Sawtooth circlet

[exotic cedar]

I wood

[gloomy hill]

if it‘s good yes

[steel veldt]

Probably

[wet vessel]

yez

[steel veldt]

Cheap metroidvania thats good is still a steal

[fickle prawn]

stay mad bitch

[wet vessel]

cool

[frosty kelp]

Guys e33 was made by a few ex Ubisoft workers

[earnest drift]

she's dying
are you happy

[earnest drift]

my eyes hurt

[frosty kelp]

Honestly I haven't played e33 so I can't jusge

[fickle prawn]

very

[wet vessel]

sadly we didnt win more for silkmas

[silk monolith]

cant wait for the christmas hornet dlc

[earnest drift]

is this your first time playing the game

[steel veldt]

I havent either and likely never plan to with that artstyle

[gloomy hill]

I am aware, it’s just a massive a fuck you to Ubisoft

[fickle prawn]

yes

[strange knot]

Also e33 was made by fr*nch

[earnest drift]

spoilers are allowed in this channel so you probably shouldn't be here

so do you hate lace rn

[fickle prawn]

VERY

[inland wind]

Rare Fr*nch W

[devout garden]

i havent played E33 so it's impossible for me to say if it deserved it or not, also my opinion would be worthless anyway

[earnest drift]

because her bossfight is too hard or you hate her character

[inland wind]

Two good things on earth made by Fr*nch people

Poutine
E33

[orchid locust]

french hate is a psyop by the british

[fickle prawn]

both

[inland wind]

Thank you French people

[earnest drift]

well she's dead now so that's that

[devout garden]

so sad that Geoff would betray his one true love, Hideo Kojima, for the French

[steel veldt]

I feel like deltarune shouldve at least gotten nominated for ost

[fickle prawn]

FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[inland wind]

Honestly true

[marsh spoke]

deltarune isnt finished

[steel veldt]

Cuz like the whole game is gonna come out in like half a decade and im willing to bet money it wont even show up on awards

[orchid locust]

deltarune will definitely get nominated for soundtrack once it fully releases in 3189

[earnest drift]

it won't be part of the goty awards until it's completed

[sharp stag]

I never felt so robbed, (I'm a fan of rpgs)

[neat forge]

guys is elden ring better than hollow knight

[steel veldt]

I doubt it will when its completed

[orchid locust]

hollow ring is the best game

[neat forge]

I have one big issue with e33 tho too expensive

like silksong is cheaper

[steel veldt]

Too expensive for a lame artstyle

[strange knot]

E33 devs looked so frenchy in tga

[marsh spoke]

try BELIEVING instead of doubting

[inland wind]

Hollow Knight is one of the best Metroidvania game of all time, Elden Ring is one of the best Game of all time

[fickle prawn]

oh no is this another radiance situation

[strange knot]

You beat lace? WW

[neat forge]

hollow knight is better than elden ring for me

[steel veldt]

Id love to but like ost should've been counted this year

[fickle prawn]

SHE'S MASSIVE

[steel veldt]

Or in 2021

[foggy fossil]

the Deltarune fandom would be an example of lobotomy by then

[earnest drift]

also i see you only have 6 masks, do you wanna go back and explore a lil more

[near crown]

Silksong has a fine ost but quite honestly I don't think it would've won. Too many "just okay" tracks

[marsh spoke]

but like
the entire ost isnt out

[fickle prawn]

later

[orchid locust]

TERRIFYING: deltarune fans projected to outnumber humans by 2028 😱

[steel veldt]

Ost critical analysis my beloved

[marsh spoke]

it would be unfair for dr ost to compete against finished osts

[fickle prawn]

I mean I haven't even reached act 3 soooooooo

[foggy fossil]

was hollow knight nominated for anything in 2017?

[fickle prawn]

nah lemme kill her first

[steel veldt]

All these chapters should count as individual osts dude were already like in the 200 track mark

[young saffron]

Yes, biggest disappointment

[steel veldt]

NO IT WOULDNT

[steel veldt]

If chapter 4 was allowed in ost nominations this year it likely would've won 😭

[young saffron]

No...

[earnest drift]

https://tenor.com/view/when-you-outside-and-smell-that-freedom-freedom-leitmotif-freedom-motif-deltarune-secret-boss-gif-11009151628751802311

[marsh spoke]

i would rather ch7 win anyway

[plush reef]

I bet that most of the game awards jury didn't even play act 3

[foggy fossil]

ch 7 the roaring knight rap battle against gerson

[fickle prawn]

what am I gonna fight the sun?

[steel veldt]

The osts this year were also like just kinda okay

No like huge genuine bangers besides deltarune stuff

[orchid locust]

act 2 is definitely the strongest part of silksong, i doubt them playing act 3 would’ve changed their decisions

[plush reef]

I'm kinda biased but imo act 3 is the best part cause uh hollow knight 1 references

[steel veldt]

Phantom was good tho 🗣️

[orchid locust]

act 3 is better if you like combat cs it has better bosses but all the exploration happens in acts 1 and 2

[foggy fossil]

def the best act

[plush reef]

Act 3 has a better story

[near crown]

Act 3 is honestly just... a different game almost

[plush reef]

I wish act 3 was a direct continuation of act 2 because a lot of casual players just stop playing after Grand Mother Silk

[sharp tundra]

Thats a ball

[fickle prawn]

of silk

[neat forge]

fr act 1 and 2 is no change expect you can go to citadel and get clawline

[steel veldt]

Act 3 was underbaked

Cool exterior and a soggy inside

[marsh spoke]

it is an ending and some people might just be satisfied with the act 2 endings

[neat forge]

fun fact you can get wings in act 1 but its very hard

[digital isle]

i've been sad and tired lately so i havent finished silksong but after this i'm going to finish silksong and play e33 and if it's not literally the second soming of christ i will invade france

[marble hearth]

Especially the bosses

[steel veldt]

As narratively relevant as the strings only thing is in ost

[neat forge]

I wish I could play e33 but its too expensive

[marble hearth]

I think its patched quite a long time ago

[steel veldt]

God damn did the ost suffer from other instruments barely being used

[lofty shell]

the bosses are cool tho

[digital isle]

piracy

[near crown]

We don't do that here

[steel veldt]

Cool exterior soggy interior

[tribal osprey]

I hope things go better

[neat forge]

like why everything good is only for rich people now

[hybrid olive]

Why isn't solksong game of the year

[steel veldt]

No we do that here

[lofty shell]

be a

[digital isle]

like the creator of ultrakill said "culture shouldnt exist only for those who can afford it"

[tawdry sierra]

red quill or purple quill?

[fickle igloo]

game awards was so shit

[neat forge]

I wish someone made art of caretaker as pirate

[lofty shell]

expedition 33 is too good

[steel veldt]

Was there a sonic announcement

[hybrid olive]

I know but i really wanted that win for ss

[neat forge]

maybe but if gta 6 is going to be next goty Im going to k m s

[hybrid olive]

Purple

[strange knot]

Even if gta sucks, it’s gonna be goty

[neat forge]

yeah even when undeserved

[lofty shell]

the next goty would probably be valor mortis
https://youtube.com/shorts/wXMFsjICyAc?si=_0md58qq3clVxzuD
could also be the duskbloods

[steel veldt]

90 bucks for schedule 1

I dont get the hype for gta at all

Like what is actually undeniably strong about the franchise

[strange knot]

High prices

[lofty shell]

fr

[split tide]

Huh yeah now that you say it idk why gta is so hyped

[steel veldt]

Its shit dawg

[neat forge]

same and mad respect for team cherry for proving that good game doesnt have to be expensive to get success

[lofty shell]

have you played gta

[surreal elbow]

GTA is shit? Insane take

[tawdry sierra]

i swear im getting worse at silksong i havent played it in a month

[steel veldt]

TELL ME WHATS GOOD ABOUT IT PLEASE

[neat forge]

companies should make more goods for common people not only rich

[wet vessel]

imo i feel bad for team cherry they spent 7 years on a game and got swiped by some other game

[surreal elbow]

Literally everything. The story, the gameplay, the RPG style, the mechanics, the graphics. Legitimately everything

[steel veldt]

Why would you make a game for awards

You'd get ex33 if you did that

[lofty shell]

the story is the only decent part

[strange knot]

But they enjoyed making skong

[surreal elbow]

I'm not saying it's the greatest game of all time but I'm definitely saying it deserves it's hype. GTA raised generations of children

[neat forge]

they won golden stick tho

[lofty shell]

i have like
played gta san andreas in the past
i can say that it was kind of mediocre

[steel veldt]

All of it is pretty mediocre maybe besides story, Rockstar can write

[surreal elbow]

Don't worry, team cherry doesn't care about the game awards

[strange knot]

Team cherry didn’t come to tga because they knew it’s gonna be suckass

[surreal elbow]

Only san Andreas?

[neat forge]

story? all it is america gang simulator

[lofty shell]

isn't it considered like the best GTA game?

[wet vessel]

yea they might be caring about dlc

[steel veldt]

Its actually decently compelling

[surreal elbow]

Have you even played it? No one who's played it would say that

[wet vessel]

pls boss rush bro i wanna fight lace 2 again its fun

[surreal elbow]

GTA 4 is considered the best GTA game but opinions vary

[remote lodge]

I have and i never understood the appeal

[neat forge]

yeah I did characters swear all the time no personality

[wet vessel]

no you would get an average AAA game

[neat forge]

hot take rap music is overrated af

[fickle prawn]

alright any tips for grandmother

[remote lodge]

The only fun i ever had with gta was cheat codes in san andreas

[neat forge]

all they sing about is drugs money and bches

[surreal elbow]

Michael had no personality? Treavor had personality? Cj had no personality? Niko had no personality?

[steel veldt]

Its oversaturated for sure but theres still gems

[remote lodge]

I mean e33 is a better game

I played both

[neat forge]

eminem yeah

[steel veldt]

Yea you've never listened to rap

[lofty shell]

swearing isn't cool ngl
it just makes you look like some cringe edgelord

[surreal elbow]

That's fine. Its just not for you then

[steel veldt]

Oh my god...

[tawdry sierra]

i love how his hp bar is still there

[neat forge]

yeah I like emienm

[remote lodge]

Im a hollow knight mega fan so who tf is the game for then, have u played e33?

I also did like silksong

[surreal elbow]

Not yet, no

[fickle prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-trash-black-guy-crying-gif-4395562591797156680

[steel veldt]

Old Eminem at least???

[lofty shell]

gta vi would be another mid game
i don't get the hype

[neat forge]

yeah

[neat forge]

exacly and overpriced

[devout garden]

this is like clair obscure game awards

[fickle prawn]

okay okay that's better

[remote lodge]

[split tide]

I guess gta is just a very solid franchise that tons of people grew up with

[strange knot]

Yes, and still will win the goty

[neat forge]

there should be more good games for everyone under 30$

[remote lodge]

Silksong is cool

[surreal elbow]

Basically why it's so hyped

[steel veldt]

Are the devs idf supporters?💔

[split tide]

I have no real stakes in the matter but I can see why it'd be so hyped up now

[lofty shell]

thats just nostalgia blindness i guess
in reality,
GTA is horribly mid

[surreal elbow]

GTA 6 is probably the most anticipated game of all time

[split tide]

It's a bit like skong hype but on a AAA scale

[neat forge]

shes most overrated person in the world why shes famous in the first place lol

[meager swan]

Tbf, FN has wanted to collab with FNaF but Scott Cawthon refused

[devout garden]

Idk I don't work on that game bruh

[surreal elbow]

Next y'all will tell me that RDR2 is mid

[strange knot]

How Nintendo making money:

[split tide]

Whether or not gta vi will live up to the hype remains to be seen obviously

[lofty shell]

i have heard that the story is really good

[steel veldt]

Its actually pretty good

[split tide]

But that's a matter for 2026

[remote lodge]

Im just gonna say it, as some1 who enjoyed hk and ss, dont trash a game u havent played simply bc it won more internet points that urs it makes ss fans and u look dumb

[neat forge]

Im sure silksong was most anticipated of this year it litteray crashed all e shops

[steel veldt]

I am not going to play ex33 because of its artstyle

[remote lodge]

Cool

[neat forge]

I will pirate yeah and play cuz Im curious is this as good as people say

[steel veldt]

W interaction

[remote lodge]

I think its art directipn is great bc it captures hyper realism really well

[surreal elbow]

Its not. Def most anticipated indie game tho. Ppl all over the internet literally made a trend off of GTA 6 not being released yet

[little talon]

I just realised whataburger is the only fast food joint that starts with a w

[remote lodge]

A style of art i havent seen done well in games till e33

[steel veldt]

I hate hyper realism sm

[split tide]

To be fair that's partly because of no preorders, and GTA VI is guaranteed to have preorders so it won't crash stores

[neat forge]

yeah lol

[remote lodge]

Hyper realism as in elevated exagerated realism

[steel veldt]

Even if its done well like you could've made an entirely new style with all that effort

[neat forge]

I mean this year

[remote lodge]

E33 isnt trying to look realistic, at all

[split tide]

Skong still did exceptionally well on release though; iirc it's like top 30 games of all time in terms of peak steam concurrent players

[steel veldt]

Its so ass💔

[strange knot]

People are trying to make games more realistic than real life

[surreal elbow]

GTA5 sold like what? 10 million copies in a day or something on release iirc

[steel veldt]

Nope it still looks exactly what I worry about

[lofty shell]

the only popular AAA games which still get good games are soulsbornes, doom and god of war

[split tide]

Obviously gta vi numbers will skyrocket past skong but skong still did amazingly well

[steel veldt]

Pixar effect

[neat forge]

witcher 3 also was good

[hidden meteor]

hello chat.

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/gas-sation-food-meme-yakuza-sega-gif-6036021998483255569

[devout garden]

I mean team cherry said e33 is for everyone while silksong is...

[lofty shell]

it was a 2015 game

keyword: still

[steel veldt]

Depressed people

[zenith path]

https://youtube.com/shorts/vRFDVaAAEnw?si=BT8XTUKfaYLWNrvx

[steel veldt]

Anywho megaman is back

Thats pretty cool

[surreal elbow]

I'm just waiting for phantom blade

[remote lodge]

I mean sure

[lofty shell]

the game that actually deserved to be nominated for goty 2025 was elden ring nightreign

[devout garden]

Because of crossworlds

[surreal elbow]

Hope you're trolling

[remote lodge]

Yeah sl this is what i mean, u havent played and u just look and sound salty and make ss fans look stupid

[steel veldt]

Yea i hate this style sm

[strange knot]

I’m so bad at Celeste

[lofty shell]

tbh
multiplayer games can win goty
overwatch did in 2016

[steel veldt]

? Ive beaten the game 3 times dawg

[meager swan]

Sup chat

[remote lodge]

No u havent

[surreal elbow]

What was overwatch's competition?

[split tide]

Yeah no nightreign is not goty material

[cerulean sable]

i thhink Sharpe should be an alcoholic detective with a troubled past

[abstract geyser]

game without voice chat and crossplay ? lmao

[steel veldt]

Yes I have?

[remote lodge]

You literally said u wont play the game like come on

[split tide]

It's good but it's definitely not up there

[lofty shell]

doom, titanfall 2, uncharted 4

[remote lodge]

Have some self awareness

[steel veldt]

OH your talking about e33

[meager swan]

Imma be honest, I have not seen a single bit of gameplay of Expedition 33 ever. I have no clue what genre of game it is, only that it is popular

[surreal elbow]

Like bro. I might go as far as to say donkey Kong bananza is more goty material than nightrein

[steel veldt]

Yea no never played it prolly never will

[marsh spoke]

what if they're alcoholic but like. in the sense that they're made out of alcohol

[remote lodge]

Yes you are talking about a game u wont play as if you had played it and look dumb

[split tide]

Honestly yeah unironically this is true

[surreal elbow]

Uncharted 4 should've won but that's just my opinion

[steel veldt]

Yea I dont like its style so I dont wanna play it

[abstract geyser]

jrpg forums Will have fun for years 😂

[cerulean sable]

YRRUEEE

[remote lodge]

Thats fine

[cerulean sable]

SO FUCKONT TYRIEE

[void wagon]

i thought it said who do u dreamdare about 😭

[earnest drift]

is steel soul the canon mode

[neat forge]

celeste is overrated ngl

[steel veldt]

Loud incorrect buzzer

[strange knot]

NO WAY

[split tide]

Arguably yes I'd say

[exotic cedar]

Celeste is a game that's rotting in my steam library

[remote lodge]

I just think SS fans need to realise its fun if their favourite game didnt get game awards

[surreal elbow]

What next? Dead cells is overrated too?

[neat forge]

what is good about it

[earnest drift]

so canonically styx and the guy that gives rancid eggs are dead

[steel veldt]

Dead cells is pretty good 🗣️

[strange knot]

All games are overrated except hk and sk

[remote lodge]

Every game that isnt silksong sucks ass didnt u hear? Every artstyle is awful every idea is bad and all bc its not about silksong

[split tide]

Maybe; tbh the specifics I'm not sure about

[surreal elbow]

Its an extremely good platformer, one of the best of its genre

[lofty shell]

i have only played a little bit of celeste
its rotting in my steam library

[meager swan]

Guys please, what genre of game is Expedition 33?

[steel veldt]

Good platforming, fantastic style, phenomenal music, great dlc, really strong narrative, actually good writing

[lofty shell]

jrpg

[split tide]

Could also consider a deathless standard run to be canonical I guess

[remote lodge]

Jrpg

[earnest drift]

trans woman

[neat forge]

btw am I only one here who actually likes skibidi toilet and italian brainrot

[surreal elbow]

Rpg, jrpg

[strange knot]

You should play more. If you afraid of difficulty, main game isn’t really hard

[steel veldt]

Dead cells actually has a w artsyle 🗣️

[earnest drift]

i'm stuck on 7c

[lofty shell]

skibidi toilet is cool now
italian brainrot sucks and is offensive

[strange knot]

I’m doing it rn

[neat forge]

its funny these war jokes are funny for me

[strange knot]

It’s so fun

[hexed ingot]

unless you consider that foresight theory

[remote lodge]

Heres my silksong take:

I played 4 goty nominees this year and heres how i rank em personally

E33>KCD2>Hades 2>Silksong

[marsh spoke]

our generation is doomed

[steel veldt]

Hades shouldve won artstyle ngl

[earnest drift]

but how does it explain cocoons and shades

[lofty shell]

why does no one talk about death stranding 2?

[steel veldt]

Aint nothing more stylized and cooler looking than a supergiant game

[lofty shell]

fr

[earnest drift]

also wtf is italian brainrot is it that weird ai generated stuff

[remote lodge]

Bc either they havent played it like me or they preffer other games

[strange knot]

It’s just an opinion, it’s just an opinion. RAGEBAIT - mindset of every hk fan

[hexed ingot]

shades are lingering regrets like the rancid egg person said, idk cocoons maybe theyre the same thing but not moving

[remote lodge]

Fr this fanbase is cooked

[abstract geyser]

You know geoff introducing metroidvania categorie next year

[hexed ingot]

lowk havent played e33 yet

[earnest drift]

but how is it canon for the knight to kill their own shade or hornet to collect her own cocoon

[lofty shell]

what about death stranding 2

[meager swan]

Who cares that Death is stranded? It's a god, it can probably teleport anyway

[remote lodge]

Its neat

DS 2 didnt innovate a lot it just grabbed DS1 and fixed a lot of the unfun parts

[hexed ingot]

its more like theyre overcoming the regret of failure i think

[tiny iris]

The industry gravitates towards a very specific type of game

[remote lodge]

Is what i hear from ds 2 fans

[hexed ingot]

maybe death is stranding someone else

[devout garden]

Indie games dominated this year

Did it?

[surreal elbow]

Why is E33 considered an indie game?

[remote lodge]

Bc its not published by any big studio

Which is the definition of indie

[steel veldt]

What do yall count as an indie studio

[thin jewel]

Where can i find a simple key thats not a shop one

[devout garden]

Made by ex ubisoft workers

[steel veldt]

I count like under 10 people made it

[marsh spoke]

small team and it wasn't guaranteed to turn a profit

[remote lodge]

Thats not what indie means

[coarse leaf]

sands of karak or sinner's road

[abstract geyser]

Kepler drop some Big $$$ on geoff event, they publishing like 6 new games lmao

[devout garden]

Indie games being nominated and stealing the spotlight from the greedy AAA companies is a good thing right?

[steel veldt]

Thats what I count though actually miniscule teams making stuff

[earnest drift]

how can they regret their failure if they died

[hexed ingot]

not slop farms

[split tide]

I'd imagine TGA's own definition of indie does encompass e33

[steel veldt]

Boblox....

[orchid locust]

no, what will the poor aaa game studios do now

[marsh spoke]

indies can have publishers, difference is that kepler didn't take any creative control over e33 unlike how most publishers/parent companies of aaa games do

[remote lodge]

The actual definition encompasses it

[hexed ingot]

well with the foresight theory theyre just seeing into the future every time they die, so they regret failing that

[split tide]

honestly yes, especially considering the direction that AAA seems to want to go towards

[remote lodge]

[earnest drift]

failing what how can they fail it if it didn't happen

[hexed ingot]

rate the banner

[steel veldt]

Kinda like newblood with ultrakill or faith

[remote lodge]

Yes 4 indies in the goty category is tight

[devout garden]

Actually take notes and listen to the gamers more

[neat forge]

not good but very good eat the rich mfs

[lofty shell]

guys
do you think deltarune with chapter 5, 6 and 7 become better than e33?

[hexed ingot]

foresight

[earnest drift]

unlikely

also they're very different games so can they even be compared

[lofty shell]

both are indie jrpgs and are story focused

[split tide]

As much as I want this to happen I'm also too cynical to believe they'll do this

[hexed ingot]

both are games

[earnest drift]

oh wait e33 is an rpg

[neat forge]

e33 isnt indie

[remote lodge]

Why not

[earnest drift]

eh idk

[surreal elbow]

I feel like e33 is more of AA game. 20 million dollar budget and a team of 300+

[inland wind]

Think of the poor SHAREHOLDERS

[maiden girder]

Guys, I finally defeated lost lace

[steel veldt]

Idk man 25 dollars for 7 chapters of some the best story writing we've ever seen presented in a cool artstyle and fantastic music will kinda beat out a lot of games😭

[meager swan]

Hornet has a little animation of jolting awake up on a bench after death so it's seen that she has dreamt the death rather then experience it. The Knight is just built different so it can just come back from the dead unlike its brethren like the giga-chad it is

[neat forge]

it seems like corporation game good but still corporation

[inland wind]

Please donate a quarter for the poor homeless shareholders 🙏

[split tide]

doesn't e33 only have a core team of like 30-ish people? it's definitely not AAA regardless

[steel veldt]

Wasn't it only 30 people who worked on the game?

[remote lodge]

The right answer here if u havent played one of the 2 is " i only played this one"

[marsh spoke]

???????????? e33 was 30 people and their budget was out of pocket

[neat forge]

I doubt it will beat silksong with all dlcs

[orchid locust]

think of the poor ceos who’ll only get a $5 million bonus instead of $15 million 💔 💔 💔 💔

[steel veldt]

It kinda already has💔

[split tide]

and honestly budget can't really be used to define games either because otherwise skong and hades would be out of the running too

[remote lodge]

They got government funding. But thats like, they applied for funding for a bussiness endeavor and got it granted

[strange knot]

Already 2 hours on 7c

[split tide]

and supergiant also has like 15-ish people in their core team

[lofty shell]

but yeah
undertale and deltarune are horribly mid in reality
they are nowhere close to the best indie games

[inland wind]

The game is trash as hell though, through the entire game, there’s no Knight nor is it Hollow

[orchid locust]

so e33 is french state propaganda? damn that makes it even more based

[neat forge]

so according to chat its rock paper scissors situation deltarune is better than e33 e33 is better than silksong and silksong is better than deltarune

[split tide]

anyways indies are far from just tiny studios made with tiny budgets these days

[remote lodge]

Yeah ppl forget the HK devs are multi millionares

[steel veldt]

Holy take

[surreal elbow]

Sand fall interactive had 30 devs yes but more than 300+ ppl worked on the game based on outscourcing and the credit scenes

[earnest drift]

the knight respawning is not canon

[remote lodge]

It does make the french into compelling and complex characters

So this is accurate

[neat forge]

yet they dont charge ridiculous amount for their games

[remote lodge]

E33 isnt overpriced its 40$

[marsh spoke]

like 200 people worked on silksong by that metric then let's not be silly

[surreal elbow]

Yes 30 devs but more than 300 ppl also worked on the game based on outscourcing and if 20.million dollars is a small budget to you than idk what to tell ya

[neat forge]

it is overpriced

[remote lodge]

Like is 40$ also ridiculous now? Are we moving the bar down from 60?

[meager swan]

Next thing you're going to tell me is that the game "Hollow Knight" is called "Hollow Knight" is because the main plot point of the game is centered around a character called the Hollow Knight

[remote lodge]

Ok bud

[steel veldt]

40 isnt overpriced, its kinda like the only real valid price

[inland wind]

Typical games nowadays, release a broken buggy mess then fix it, not a single Knight in game is crazy

[wet vessel]

yea at least it isnt $70

[split tide]

40 is fine for e33

[steel veldt]

60 is pushing it already

[tidal glade]

Gigachad devs

One reason is that they have full control of the end product unlike game studios where devs have no say to corpo shenanigans

[remote lodge]

Its below even the old standard for price

[coarse leaf]

idk bro it's not that easy to drop 60 on entertainment these days

[neat forge]

hollow knight also has good price

[steel veldt]

70+? Yea you getting pirated lil bro

[remote lodge]

Yeah so its not 60

[orchid locust]

20 million dollars is very small by the standards of a video game as large as exp33; and besides if you’re counting budget then skong’s budget was many many times more

[lofty shell]

e33 is first of all an overly expensive game
second of all
it has monstrously high system requirements
so you need a good 800 dollar pc to even run it
how does it still manage to get glazed so much if not even everyone can play it

[marsh spoke]

i didnt say its a small budget
i said it was out of pocket
which means if it flopped they wouldve been fucked over financially

[neat forge]

im not saying that e33 is bad im saying its overpriced like gtav

[split tide]

$40 is not comparable to $70 lol

[remote lodge]

And why do u thiink its iverpriced

[inland wind]

Skong doesn’t have a budget because it’s purely out of pocket, hard to compare ig

[lofty shell]

assassin's creed shadows is 80 dollars

[steel veldt]

Its not expensive, idk about optimization but its an indie title so they prolly know what they are doing

[neat forge]

silksong costs only like 20$

[remote lodge]

Yeah and?

[inland ravine]

evening

[tidal glade]

Imo it's reasonably priced unlike other games (looking at u Nintendo)

[neat forge]

that proves you dont need to charge so much for games

[split tide]

And I'm sure that there are people who'd literally consider e33 to be over twice as good as skong, so for them the pricing is a non-issue

[orchid locust]

evening hru

[remote lodge]

Like im sorry if you think every game shouls be 20$ then u are delusional

[surreal elbow]

20 million dollars budget is mainly in the ranges of AA games. The estimated budget for SS was 3 million dollars but we don't actually know for sure

[fickle prawn]

I did it y'all

[neat forge]

gg

[remote lodge]

I dont think they should be 80 dollars but man this fanbase sometimes

[fickle prawn]

the normal ending where you beat grandmother

[coarse leaf]

an i7 and 55 gigs??? ouch for me

[split tide]

at the end of the day pricing is really more a question of the market anyways as opposed to any real indicator of quality or whatever

[fickle prawn]

I don't know how to get the other endings tbh

[surreal elbow]

Final fantasy was gonna go bankrupt if their game didn't sell well. Are they an indie game too?

[wet vessel]

peak requirements

[remote lodge]

E33 optimization could be better, its acceptable in the sense that it runs at 30 on a steam deck and isnt 100 GB tho

[neat forge]

soon they all will require rtx 50 series as minimum 😂

[inland ravine]

well wbu :D

[fickle prawn]

ik I can't wait to go to act 3 :DDD

[meager swan]

Why fish out water if fish?

[fickle prawn]

No

[steel veldt]

Damn better than most stuff thats actually alright

[orchid locust]

significantly above average i’m having a really nice coffee rn

[remote lodge]

I find it wild that 40$ would be cinsidered overpriced for the quality e33 gives ya tbh

[neat forge]

is e33 better than silksong

[fickle prawn]

noe

[remote lodge]

But thats the state of the hollow knight fanbase aka say ss is the best game ever made or we riot

[inland ravine]

nice :D

[meager swan]

"How many fleas did you free?"
"No"
Truly an insightful answer

[remote lodge]

As some1 who is a HK super fans and played both... yes

[inland wind]

Nintendo Switch 2 deploying it’s countermeasure (C4 explosive) inside it when a Dangerous Criminal (12 year old child) tries to illegally modify and exploit (Paint the outer trim of the controller yellow) their hardware

[split tide]

yeah just look at the crashout over tga today

[steel veldt]

Ss is not the best game or hk not even close

[fickle prawn]

fuck

[neat forge]

ye im pirating it I will need to make sure is it deserved or overglazed

[opal pelican]

Yeah but it is the best game ever made tho

[lofty shell]

nah expedition 33 is the best game ever made
it was made by the descendants of god themselves
its a masterclass in gaming
it was made by people much higher than what humans are
its a blessing to humankind

[steel veldt]

However ss and hk are very special games I will remember for the rest of my life

[patent cosmos]

Do you think Grindle is a tsundere for Hornet

[wet vessel]

state of depression that ss didnt win more than one category

[steel veldt]

I doubt Ill give e33 another thought after 2025 ends

[remote lodge]

I mean id support the devs but u can try it that way

[marsh spoke]

maybe

[neat forge]

you only need 22 to get them to fleatopia you need all if you want pale oil tho

[glossy grotto]

art direction robbed

[tidal glade]

He just wanna rob her XD

[wet vessel]

as always, BLAME THE FRENCH 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[neat forge]

guess what not everyone are rich

[steel veldt]

Hades 2 deserved it lowk

[patent cosmos]

He wants to steal her heart 💜

[fickle prawn]

how do I know how many Fleas i've freed i've already reached their village

[orchid locust]

the best game is obviously the royal game of ur, y’all shoulda been there when it dropped in 2850 BCE the queues stretched all the way to babylon

[remote lodge]

Did u play it

[neat forge]

is hades 2 better than silksong

[patent cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-flea-awoo-absolute-cinema-absolute-awoo-gif-13929526023089152064

[glossy grotto]

more than e33 definitely

[remote lodge]

40$ is below what the sstandar of gamees was since like 2005

[fickle prawn]

SIR YES SIR

[remote lodge]

[opal pelican]

Hades 2 got robbed like i didn't like 1s gameplay but 2 is the most beautiful game I've ever seen

[steel veldt]

Artstyle yes, ari makes wonderful art but supergiant's style is genuinely unmatched

[soft prairie]

what is my issue? it worked fine today on the laptop of a friend

[remote lodge]

Like u can afford a rig for e33 butt 40$ is too much?

[silent mural]

silksong is the game year, silksong is the game of every year!

[steel veldt]

Nah

[fickle prawn]

okay I started the quest how do I know where the lost fleas are

[neat forge]

there are good games that are free

[surreal elbow]

You're still stuck in the asylum aren't ya?

[opal pelican]

Explore

[remote lodge]

Did u play it

[meager swan]

Imma be honest, I didn't even know the Game Awards happened until I checked this chat. People who genuinely care about such things to the point of riot don't have much going on in their life

[silent mural]

nah

[neat forge]

I dont even have rtx 50 card

[remote lodge]

Damn microtransactions are goated

[glossy grotto]

u dont need to play it to see the art and i saw it

[lofty shell]

no
but look at it
expedition 33 is a gift of god
humans can't make such a masterpiece

[surreal elbow]

Either way. Silksong was my game of the year and atleast it won one award

[neat forge]

im talking about games without microtransactions

[remote lodge]

Yep silksong fans are just dumb

[pliant pike]

Im glad Wuthering waves won the People choice game awards. Such a good game

[soft prairie]

Wdym?

[neat forge]

yeah I will I need to make sure is this THAT good

[steel veldt]

Me when the marketing meant to show off the game isnt a good metric to base a purchase off of

[lofty shell]

expedition 33 needed another award bruh

[opal pelican]

Were there in game rewards for winning?

[fickle prawn]

oh fuck no

[remote lodge]

I think it was the best game this year, i have other games i like more but yk, i also think KCD2 was a better game than silksong but hey i actually play the games i talk about

[opal pelican]

Gacha games usually do that just so they win

[inland wind]

E33 was divine judgement made to punish Silksonf Fans for tormenting every Game Show Live Chat for 7+ years

[glossy grotto]

lmao we are tlsking art direction and this guy is like “did u play it 🤓🤓”

[pliant pike]

Yes 🙂

[fickle prawn]

oh wait nevermind there's a path

[opal pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[soft prairie]

I used a Website which checks if I can run a game and it told me I can lol

[split tide]

enjoy your free pulls

[pliant pike]

Bro you can literally play it with an integrated graphics card

[steel veldt]

Gameplay id get which is why im not commenting on Gameplay, but like artstyle is right there

[remote lodge]

I think the marketting is great! I think you and ppl saying the artstyle is ass are the same ppl that would blow a gasket if some1 said they wint buy silksong bc they dont like the artstyle

[opal pelican]

Kill all gacha games

Im willing to lose limbus company to get rid of the rest

[steel veldt]

Nah id get if someone doesnt like ari's style it happens

[pliant pike]

I hope genshin new chaoter win the next Goty

[lofty shell]

system requirements for e33
its an unreal 5 game

[neat forge]

is 4080 enough to run e33?

[soft prairie]

No?

[remote lodge]

Yes

[steel veldt]

This guy likes generalizing

[glossy grotto]

me if i was braindead

[neat forge]

ah okay

[split tide]

there is no way 4080 cannot run e33

[remote lodge]

It runs at locked 30 on a steam deck

[meager swan]

The heck is a chaoter?

[remote lodge]

Which is p low specs

[split tide]

4080 can run basically anything at almost max graphics

[surreal elbow]

It's his opinion bro

[wet vessel]

deadass other than all these arguments, does expedition 33 actually deserve goty

[surreal elbow]

Yes

[pliant pike]

Bro. Look at Benchmark at Youtube instead of this shit
Search ryzen 5 5600g the vegav7 one. Its weaker than literally rx 580 and it could still run e33

[lofty shell]

yes
its the best game ever made in the history of man

[neat forge]

idk I will have to try

[remote lodge]

Id say so, havent ya know actually played it

[soft prairie]

Im on Ethernet

[surreal elbow]

The ppl who say no are Truly coping that silksong lost

[pliant pike]

Chapter

[opal pelican]

Theres no limit to the glaze

[fickle prawn]

are the lost fleas only the marrow?

[lofty shell]

i have an intel iris xe
i cannot run it

[neat forge]

nothing can beat hollow knight 1

[young saffron]

yes lol based on reviews from critics and fans themselves it clearly does

[wet vessel]

xd kinda deserved

[remote lodge]

I mean id ssay e33 is this generations FF7

[young saffron]

I could get 60fps on my i3 9100f gtx 1650 and I didnt meet the minimum specs 😲

[glossy grotto]

goty comment i get but he called me dumb for commenting on the art direction without playing the game lmao

[surreal elbow]

E33 is a generational game. I'm sure if silksong released any other year it would've sweeped the awards just like e33

[wet vessel]

sandfalls baguettes were stolen during immigration

[opal pelican]

Id think ff7 would be the ff7 of this generation

[pliant pike]

Idk why people are mad that their american game slop with a generic story lost against either WuWa or E33. Tell me something unique about battlefield 6 another terrorist vs USA story compared to Genshin, limbus or even uma musume

[surreal elbow]

Ahhh nvm then

[lofty shell]

my pc has intel iris xe graphics, 8 GB RAM and intel core i5 11th gen

[remote lodge]

I called the fanbase dumb mainly bc i like skong i just think ppl are a bit delulu

[young saffron]

bf6 is so shit

[opal pelican]

Getting big ragebait vibes from you, you seem like a dastardly trickster

[remote lodge]

And i called dumb saying "x game didnt deserve goty bc i dont like the artstyle"

[young saffron]

waiter more gun slop please

[pliant pike]

Tbh i might be rage baiting but its half genuine opinion

[wet vessel]

yes

[surreal elbow]

If bf6 is shit, then what is cod?

[neat forge]

also silksong isnt that good there are some categories in which hk1 is better

[lofty shell]

cod black ops 7 sucks

[pliant pike]

Yes wuwa might be generic if you compared it to other gacha but comparing it to Western AAA? Its a different story

[young saffron]

cod should go to hell

[remote lodge]

Its fine to not like the artstyle, saying the game has no merit bc of it whhen u didnt play it is a bit silly

[surreal elbow]

Atleast we agree on something

[coarse leaf]

black ops 7 ai generated game lol

[glossy grotto]

i never said that e33 didnt deserve goty because of the art i think u live in a delusion

[bitter raft]

Silksong is better than hk hk will always be peak though

[opal pelican]

"if you compare shit to super shit it doesnt look that bad does it?"

[tawdry sierra]

what if i never saved kratt

[orchid locust]

is bf6 genuinely better than the other generic war shooter games

[tidal glade]

At wut resolution?

My laptop has Intel Core 5-210H with RTX 4050 (6gb) and I have 16gb of RAM

Dunno if the game will have smooth gameplay on my device

[remote lodge]

Oh wait i mistook u

[surreal elbow]

Yes, cuz battlefield 6 genuinely feels like an actual war

[pliant pike]

It wasn't shit. Heck both are even Good stories its just the Battlefield 6 is so generic

[neat forge]

hk1 has better world and more content however silksong has better music quest system and fight system

[remote lodge]

I think this was Bout tthe best arrt ditection category then?

[surreal elbow]

More content only because it has dlcs

[young saffron]

crazy thing but I was on 720p 😔

I ran the game on medium + high ( custom settings) at 50-60fps aside from 1-2 areas

[remote lodge]

If so then my bad. I missread

[bitter raft]

Silksong has a much more vast and open world than hk with so many more features and secrets than hk

[pliant pike]

Make sense why people would like uma musume sport idol drama more than michael bay 2.0 but in gaming

[opal pelican]

Holdon i gotta look up the Wuwa gacha odds

[pliant pike]

Would be funny for you to do it because I've heard its actually Kinda not that bad

[young saffron]

My friend has the same laptop as you I believe ,he ran it at 60-120fps on high

though his laptop was running pretty hot

[opal pelican]

0.8% LOL

[surreal elbow]

Did KCD2 win any awards?

[scarlet laurel]

there are 3 awards e33 didn’t deserve to win, the rest is fine tho

[tidal glade]

More content? SS easily surpassed HK even without DLCs

[young saffron]

I cannt recall what his exact fps was but im sure it was at minimum 60

[opal pelican]

Limbus stays the only gacha game i give a pass to

[remote lodge]

I think kcd shouldve won best rpg

[fickle prawn]

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE LOST FLEAS

[opal pelican]

FUCKING EXPLORE!!!!! LOOK AROUND!!!!!!

[pliant pike]

Yeah ill take it back. The game is horse crap compared to arknights

[surreal elbow]

KCD2 is the most rpg rpg game I've ever seen ngl

[tidal glade]

I better get saving for the game then XD

[remote lodge]

I mean ill ssay it, i sont like the sidequests in silksong

[fickle prawn]

I am doing that :(((

[young saffron]

Hk has a worser combat system
Worse movement
arguably worse boss fights (its carried by dlc)
Worser npcs
Worse art
Worst ost

[neat forge]

in silksong you dont have fighting minigames like godhome or colloseum of fools

[young saffron]

worser is apparently not a word so fuck me ig

[opal pelican]

Compared to what

[young saffron]

to valorant

(to silksong)

[surreal elbow]

Silksong does mostly everything hollow does but better

[opal pelican]

Shit id agree with everything except for ost

[neat forge]

with everything except art I agree

[opal pelican]

Need to wait for dlcs for silksong to clear that

[surreal elbow]

The only thing hollow knight has over silksong is lore

[young saffron]

Bad choice lock your doors tonight

[exotic cedar]

I disagree with the npcs

[opal pelican]

Makes sense

[tawdry sierra]

should i save him?

[neat forge]

hk1 world felt more lively and vibrant

[orchid locust]

you got any other good realistic campaign shooters?

[exotic cedar]

The only good silksong npcs are shakra sherma garmond and uhh idk

[neat forge]

yes

[young saffron]

when tf was kratt locked up wtf am I missing something..?

[opal pelican]

Acting as if hk npcs are any better

[neat forge]

while in silksong most areas look like they are drained on it like blasted steps bilewater or sands

[lofty shell]

the good hk npcs are zote, grimm, elderbug, sly, bretta, quirrel and more

[pliant pike]

I am actually glazing at arknights endfield

[tidal glade]

"Colloseum of fools" is alr all around Pharloom in every biome u try to go into

We have minigames in SS too (yes, the Flea festival games)

[young saffron]

nuh uh they all have decent personality + they sing

so ez wins

[neat forge]

actually npcs silksong has better

[exotic cedar]

In hollow knight i really loved progressing the game and then talking to elderbug since his dialouge changes when you progress the game

[surreal elbow]

Escape from tarkov, ready or not, and squad

[neat forge]

tho I wish more of silksong was like verdania or coral tower lively vibrant colorful

[opal pelican]

Does one npc in hk have a character arc other than quirrel

[neat forge]

hk1 was very good at this

[remote lodge]

Uh yes

Multiple

[neat forge]

shakra I think

[tidal glade]

Uhhmm does Cloth count?

[exotic cedar]

Tiso, zote, godseeker, cornifer, little fool, cloth maybe theres more

[neat forge]

or seth

[exotic cedar]

Zote is so fucking stupid i love him

[opal pelican]

It wouldnt make sense in lore tho bruh capitalism sucksd out all tbe joy and whimsy of the world

[lofty shell]

grimm too

[vestal vault]

the one that disses the knight and gets killed.

[remote lodge]

Zote my goat whos also washed

[opal pelican]

Noticing how you didnt give an example

[exotic cedar]

Zote actually thinks he's winning that collesium fight

[lofty shell]

which hk character do you guys wanna see in silksong other than hornet and mr mushroom?

[remote lodge]

The nail upgrade guy who is suicidal?

[surreal elbow]

Ngl bro I could beat zote in a fight

[inland wind]

Zote

[opal pelican]

Shit i forgot about that guy ill give you him

[remote lodge]

Theres many examples

[inland wind]

I need to see zote’s interaction with Hornet

[neat forge]

so that was actually the point to make the world dead to potrait it? if yes then they did good at it

[orchid locust]

the only good silksong npcs are

• shakra
• twelfth architect
• second sentinel
• zaza (not garmond)
• phantom
• green prince
• seth

y’all better not reply to this talm bout sm “where’s sherma” i have made it very clear that i do NOT fw sherma

[neat forge]

where seth

[remote lodge]

The bug u rescue that is obsessed with knights but eventually her obsession wears off bc zote

[next viper]

Guys do i go to the gym or stare at my phone the rest of the day

[exotic cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736153071218065508/1437058244756377661/sadness-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[inland wind]

Jerma’s genuine reaction to that information

[surreal elbow]

No lace?

[remote lodge]

The miner that slowly succumbs to the infection

[orchid locust]

oh true added

[opal pelican]

Shit i forgot about her ill give you that

[remote lodge]

Like come on now hk has plenty of these

[lofty shell]

no sherma?

[opal pelican]

Im NOT giving you that one thats not a character arc

[neat forge]

apart from sob cancer story he is actually good npc with nice arc

[split bone]

Phantom didn't even do anything

[remote lodge]

Ok grymm

[orchid locust]

no lace is a bum and washed just like gms phantom is the cooler sibling

[lofty shell]

he is carried hard by his boo hoo sad sob story
other than that
he is kinda mid
the boss was such a pushover

[opal pelican]

Hating on seth in the big 25

[neat forge]

he has redemption arc after boss

[exotic cedar]

I feel like silksong npcs lack dialouge

[spark rover]

sign my petition on assassinating geoff keighley

[opal pelican]

Boss is peak, quest is peak, the best flea

[remote lodge]

The guy in the first town that is sad the town is d3ad but slowly becomes more happy as it fills up again

[dusky patio]

where is vog

[neat forge]

also trobbio is very good boss like he thinks he is saving pharloom when in reality he is one of obstacles to hornet to save pharloom

[opal pelican]

Is that a character arc?

[neat forge]

no but its interesting

[opal pelican]

He didnt do anything

[lofty shell]

i mean he technically saves pharloom
he gives hornet claw mirrors
which she can use with witch crest and yk what happens after that

[remote lodge]

Guy who is sad and diesnt get explorers becomes happier and accepts the knight who is an explorer? Yeah id say thats an arc

[orchid locust]

vog is cool but she dropped off my list after flea dodge 💔

[lofty shell]

what about kratt

[dusky patio]

fair :(

[opal pelican]

"Accepts the knight who is an explorer" ???

[delicate matrix]

so uhh guys what won game of the year i wansnt there

[neat forge]

he is the only boss that cannot be skipped that isnt haunted

[opal pelican]

Wat does that even mean

[remote lodge]

He calls the knight his friend later on and gets happy when he gives him a flower

[exotic cedar]

Pintress is also good silksong npc

[neat forge]

oh also lace

[remote lodge]

Idk theres progression there

[exotic cedar]

Donkey kong bananza

[lofty shell]

mr mushroom best silksong npc

[opal pelican]

He fucks with you from the start

[pliant pike]

Mods strangle this man

[delicate matrix]

WHAT THE FUCK

[slate bluff]

Blue Prince

[neat forge]

but lace is diffent story

[exotic cedar]

I'M JOKING its e33

[remote lodge]

Baldis basics

[slate bluff]

this chat is so calm now

[delicate matrix]

fair its so peak

[opal pelican]

The 33 stands for the metacritic score it shouldve gotten

[slate bluff]

yesterday this was a warzone

[lofty shell]

roblox is better

[remote lodge]

Lets play a brand new round of! Did you play it

[delicate matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-at-this-user-ryan-gosling-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-fail-meme-gif-22090542

[neat forge]

silksong is better than e33

[opal pelican]

For about 2 hours yeah

[pliant pike]

"Clairs obscur winning has proven that the game awards is full of neo nazis advocating for the death of minorities" this aint fake i saw someone saying this its Hilario

[slate bluff]

here's the full list of what e33 won

[exotic cedar]

Silksong is better than e33 because i like it more

[opal pelican]

It's graphicslop so i couldnt run it for much longer than that

[remote lodge]

Cool then fair enough! Fair and based opeenion

[delicate matrix]

how tf is e33 an indie game

[opal pelican]

Because it is??

[young saffron]

Gaming community gotta be like bottom 5 communities istg

[neat forge]

I ask the same question

[remote lodge]

Its an indie studio?

[opal pelican]

33 people worked on it brosephone

[slate bluff]

People need to stop thinking indie its 2 dudes making a Game in a garage

[delicate matrix]

its an AA game no? with 40 people working??

[remote lodge]

I guess high fidelity games cant be indie now

[slate bluff]

it's an independient studio

[young saffron]

"duh exp33 slop its shit" proceeds to play fucking bo7 and fifa

[tidal glade]

What's the official criteria for a game to be "indie"

[pliant pike]

Indie game means nothing anymore tbh. And i dont believe Silksong is an indie game anynore

[neat forge]

music should go to silksong tho

[opal pelican]

ITS 3 DUDES

[wet vessel]

stuff that they (didn't) deserve:

• debut indie
• RPG
• Art Direction
• Score & Music

[remote lodge]

Small budget and small team with no big publisher

[lofty shell]

guys why does roblox never got nominated in game awards

[opal pelican]

OUR BRAINS ARE SHRINKING??

[delicate matrix]

low budget and low crew members, also being an independant studio

[young saffron]

what deserved rpg? and dont say kcd2 please

[remote lodge]

I mean it had a bigger budget than e33

[opal pelican]

Block tales gonna get nominated once it fully releases

[neat forge]

goty maybe e33 deserved but silksong has better music

[delicate matrix]

it was too old. and they dont like anything thats older than 15 years

[slate bluff]

i Only agree with RPG

[wet vessel]

was about to say kcd2 sorry

[opal pelican]

Wtf does budget have to do wih anything

[livid sandal]

guys why do the weavers instead of sounding like enemies they js go "Ureyahhhh suhuhsuhshshsh growling" Why do they d ots

[orchid locust]

istg y’all forgot the definition of indie and are only going off budget

[remote lodge]

Uh... ok

[opal pelican]

Jeff bezos could solo develop a game and it would be indie

[neat forge]

because roblox is overrated even geometry dash is better as engine

[lofty shell]

its so mid rn

[young saffron]

😔 agreed with your other 3 awards though, silksong definitely shouldve won those imo

[delicate matrix]

why wasnt deltarune or slime rancher nominated

[young saffron]

They dont allow bad games in TGA

[remote lodge]

Moving the goalpost

[opal pelican]

Im gonna let this slide cus i know you're ragebaiting

[delicate matrix]

slime rancher 2 is the best game that came out in 2025 change my mind

[opal pelican]

Im not moving shit what

[pliant pike]

And our definition of indie game last years ago is that it should be made by one dude. It morphed into "actually its few dudes" and it became so broad they have to formalize it into an game studio either independent from publishing oooor independent from established traditional triple A titan. And clair did meet those

[wet vessel]

but seriously, goty being e33 is acceptable

[remote lodge]

So to be indie it has to be just 2 guys then

[young saffron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weKYQyaRxWM

Ass games revealed 😭

[dapper stirrup]

deltarune is peak vro

[opal pelican]

OUR??? WHO US OUR???

[neat forge]

yes but not best music silksong has better music

[remote lodge]

Also is team cherry actually 2 guys

[tidal glade]

So having $200k in kickstarter (hypothetical scenario) would disqualify a game to be indie?

[opal pelican]

NO????

[delicate matrix]

the story is also great

[lofty shell]

expedition 33 slaps
best game in the history of man

[opal pelican]

WHY AM I BEING SLANDERED???

[glossy grotto]

ima buy silksong battle pass

[remote lodge]

So it has to be a 2d or stylized game?

[gusty igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-widow-hornet-bonk-arito-gif-13643966964603239778

[pliant pike]

Like if you are actually open minded then you will see a lot of argument claiming crap lile Stardew valley is actually more indie than HK

[delicate matrix]

kickstarter dont count

[opal pelican]

You made it too obvious, good ragebait.

[remote lodge]

Then why is e33 not an indie then

[pliant pike]

Imagine being that isolated to your own world you didn't even realize stuff like this has already been happening

[opal pelican]

It is

[remote lodge]

Im trying to redircet the question to u

[opal pelican]

I said it is

[delicate matrix]

alright im just gonna host my own game awards!!

[lofty shell]

the devs of expedition 33 should get noble prize
as e33 is a breakthrough in gaming
no other game has managed to be this good

[remote lodge]

Man i cant read

[wet vessel]

thats enough french protester

[opal pelican]

Ai generated, opinion discarded

[delicate matrix]

which one is the best guys??

[remote lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[opal pelican]

Kroal

[tidal glade]

Yet HK got the budget from the same source (tho smaller $$ but still) and gets to be classified as indie?

[pliant pike]

Our industry current definition of indie at this point is a game independent from established triple A companies. It's the same thing as Indie films. People dont care if you are published as long you aren't published by maybe disney or universal studios

[young saffron]

hk? did u mean silksong? cause silksong budget was defo not smaller than exp33

[worthy lintel]

Kroal can't be indie, that's literally god

[lofty shell]

EXPEDITION 33 has been the best invention of man
right up there with the invention of fire

[opal pelican]

IF YOUR STUDIO IS INDEPENDENT IT IS AN INDIE GAME

[young saffron]

thats a really stupid definition imo

[tidal glade]

HK = Hollow Knight
SS = Silksong

[pliant pike]

And clair obscur met that criteria

[opal pelican]

YES!!!

[slate bluff]

exactly

[remote lodge]

Yeah i dont grt the whole "e33 isnt an indie" like, yes it is?

[pliant pike]

You are just proving my argument its hilarious

[gusty igloo]

or sk