#sk-discussion
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- fair
- bind doesnt matter if youre playing well enough
- WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
- wrong
alr
someone correct me if Im wrong but
it gives the tentacles 1 extra tick of damage, as well as letting you heal max. 4 masks
multibinder is almost made for witch
all the benefit without the annoying drawback
You guys do I need to do the taste of pharloom quest to get act 3?
architecht is usuable normally but who genuinly defends the pogo as good
ok fuck this im pulling out the wanderer copypasta
sheesh
Hunter has higher needle DPS than Wanderer
Architect has the second worst attacks and pogo in the game bruh
It's not good that's not debatable
The pogo is the only thing holding Architect back
lmfao
@light swan
FINALLY. AFTER GOING THROUGH THAT HELL OF "UNDERWORKS". I'M BACK.
In theory only
Id highly reccomend it
especially before act 3
void enemies are buffed up, and having all your needle upgrades will help
Architect is a great crest outside of the pogo
lets fucking GOOO
yes u need to
its easily the worst in the game š
maintaining max focus is not very difficult
Whenever Hunter gets a hit off Wanderer can get two
WANDERER SUCKS
Wanderer is, in terms of combat, a crutch and a detriment. It has its uses in platforming, however in combat it often serves as a disadvantage, builds bad habits, and is frankly unneeded.
"But itās free damage!"
No, it isnāt. Hunter does 78 dps on max focus, Beast does 82, while Wanderer does a measly 70. You can also only equip one tool at a time, so whenever you opt to use something like Flintslate for passive bonus damage you also lose the opportunity to use more active tools like Curvesickle or Voltvessels, and vice versa. Furthermore, despite having roughly the same length as Hunter's attack, the Wanderer attack hitbox has the worst area coverage in the game. This means that Wanderer, unless used perfectly, misses a significant amount of swings any time a boss repositions vertically. Another option would be using Longclaw to boost its range and hitbox, meaning you have to burn a blue slot that could be used on something else just to get a usable hitbox. To put into perspective how much a blue slot means, with 3 blue slots you could equip Volt Filament, Injector Band and Sawtooth Circlet, 3 of the best tools in the game to completely trivialise everything. Except you can't do that because one slot has been burned on Longclaw. So no, Wanderer isnāt āfree damageā, in fact, the less often you use it, the more damage you will do
"I literally canāt play without Wanderer anymore"
Itās still best to rip the band-aid off and try to fight advertisement of the crest just because people develop bad habits. It forces you to learn an entirely different way to play which is often detrimental and requires it to be unlearnt when one swaps away from Wanderer, whether itās because theyāve seen itās flaws or because theyāre doing a crest locked run.
ss dlc when
the pogo is my 2nd favorite pogo, genuinely being serious rn itās super cool and just more skill expression
I like wanderers
holly yap
hi zal
Not the point
hunter focus means hunter does 1.5x with each hit
the humble architect does not need to "pogo"
she needs only her tools, and the raw materials to craft more
"measly 70" just hit once more š
It's actually very hard to not have at least the first, (biggest) damage buff up on hunter at most times, considering if you don't keep it up, you are getting hit too often to be able to heal, and you'll die
Even if you have max focus constantly Wanderer beats it out simply because it has more openings
so true
hunter would eventually start outpacing wanderer and it has the combos
i think its cool but i think it just suffers from not being particularly good in a fast fight
what are the numbers, then?
Tools which consume shards which means they're unusable in regular combat or you're gonna run out
me when bankrupt and no shell shards
I thought it didn't need all quests š
you clearly haven't used hunter enough
The numbers don't mean shit because enemies don't stand still
Farm
the numbers are the most important part of a dps discussion
no
I think facetanking Wanderer probably wins, but once we get radiant boss fights Hunter will have a very obvious lead
well yea ofc but i need to go stay at shop for 10 days to buy enough sahrds
Trust me, you wanna do as many quests as possible before Act 3 happens
NO NUMBERS ALL VIBES
How can you discuss dps without quantifying the dps lmao
what's the best farm in act 2?
anyways I gotta go I'm procrastinating on here lol later guys
reed
Literally wrong
What are you on about
Great reeds
itās insanely good against bosses like karmelita due to the range and the charge
buying shard bundles takes ages
yk those spots in walls where you break fossils to get shell frags?
if you keep hitting the walls, more frags will leak out
its usually a rare drop but architect GREATLY increases your odds
idk if its bc a single drill hits multiple times or if its actually coded like that, but you can get max frags in a tolerable amount of time
facetanking wanderer is just budget beast
Enemies don't stand still and act as target dummies, they move around and attack. Wanderer has more AS which means it has more openings and more burst damage
How?
hunter outclasses almost everything about wanderer
only thing is like base attack speed without focus but even then it isnt hard at all to get to max focus
Grand Reeds
Sigh back to reapercrest š
Again, every time Hunter gets a hit off Wanderer will get two
@rich herald gir 
Wanderer is more for facetanking rather than pure offense ngl. But its still one of the best all things considered. In fact all crests are like as good (except beast but no hate to it at all, its still fire but just worse).
Discord can't read ^
And how does that make the DPS number the least important factor in a DPS discussion
shades 
Wooooo Reaper!!
Your very impatient ššš
being a good player assumes you can always apply pressure
Who tf said it's the least important?
You did
I'm only doing so for the pogo
well wanderers > hunter cuz i dont have to no hit everything then either and i can get the "pashiing" sound š
this rigid line of thinking is not how it works in practice, hunter can apply constant pressure
Beat gms second try
I said it's not the most important
he jus wanna grill
there is very little time when you wonāt be able to apply damage
WHY IS WANDERER GLAZE BACK I HATE YOU ALL
Fr fr
crestism... tool discourse... i just wanna grill for gods sakes!
i have a funnier image
yall stop beefin bout crests and go listen to Destroy Boys
this boss in whiteward just pissed me the fuck off so im using architect crest
just 1 person
hunter dash attack combo does 3x standard needle damage at max focus
There's like 2 factors in a DPS discussion, if it's not the most important it's the least important
im going back to slopframe i'm not tolerating wanderer glaze
this is the funniest shit ever ong
What are they
way faster than wanderers 2x damage btw
Isn't this lwk beautiful tho
if it works it works
"pashing"
ah yk that makes sense
i still think the pogos less cool than hunter and witch
wanderer glaze is that bad huh?
You brought up the other one
hi skilled individuals
So you just don't dash attack and instead stop and get eight hits off
warframe is also highly superior to wanderer
Like frš«
Nah, say what it is, I want to see your definition of it
has to be bait atp
can do it against most bosses as well so š„ø
and instead hunter dash attacks and gets 7 hits off
Actually using the crest, which is what you brought up
Mfs just want to be contrarian "no this broken as shit crest isn't actually broken as shit"
ah, the violin sword guys near first shrine? I should go find some more tool kits
Yeah i'm tired can we just kill the wanderer guy I dont care anymore
Ah yes, the famed two factors of "DPS calculations" and "everything else"
3 factors no?
atk speed
damage
tool slots
Yep
Yep, you can run from Songclave to the High Halls bench back and forth killing like 7 reeds each time
In reference to dps from the needle alone
is bell hart shop still the right place to go to convert roseries to necklaces and buy shell shard packs, or is there a better vendor?
Just do the first two with theives pin and back less stress
depends if youre factoring tools in or not
i think the discussion is about needle primarily but hunter outclasses wanderers in tools regard objectively lol
weird speedrun idea:
fastest time to die on a new steel soul save
LOL
It's the same price everywhere right?
this would be 10 seconds
yea theres one called keeping or spending your loose rosaries
why give up those extra ones just to break the necklaces later?
Judging crest is super duper complex and I feel like people have a tendency to try to be too scientific when evaluating them
Like people saying that beast has the highest dps are just⦠I mean itās wrong ? Like just⦠you have to heal for the crest to get the dps, healing takes time, itās on a cooldown ? Yet people will tell you that beast is the best because it has the best dps
Itās bizarre
not sure where other vendors are, but the first shrine vendor doesn't sell the necklaces, only the beads (80 roseries > 60 )
For needle DPS discussion, all that matters is the actual number for the DPS, and trying to achieve that number
or 9.74, or 9.89, or 9.12
Wanderer sucks needle wise and sucks worse than reaper with red tools considered There i said it can we MOve on
U can basicly have this archetype with all crests. Also im not an architect main (im Wanderer cry about it) but i defend all. But these are basicly all archetypes:
Hunter: actually 0 ig. Maybe that they just dont experiment?
Wanderer: plays on easy mode
Reaper: Bro only pogos
Architect: spam tools and nothing else
Shaman: press any spell to oneshot
Witch: press bind to oneshot
Beast: just a rapid animal
hunter wins out in tools and needle that's my goat...
the best crest is whichever you prefer using
Even taking into account heal time, if you slam Injector Band Beast still does the most DPS
wins out in all regards #Tbh
I personally don't use rosary strings if I can't stay alive I probably don't need money
wanderer suckass
I said what EVERYONE in this chat is too scared to say
ily hunter
wanderer suckass
I just feel like stock piling necklaces because I often abandon my cocoon and don't feel like spending silkcores, because I don't know if those are finite
i don't get the wanderer glaze or hate, its a pretty solid crest but its not the best or broken and its definitely not the worst
that being said hunters on top
I've literally been saying it the whole time
wanderer is unbalanced imo
I'm getting married to hunter crest and all my oomfs are invited to the wedding
Wanderer is just the worst
financial irresponsibility
is cursed ending difficult to achieve? not like fighting gms cause thats fine i mean like getting the cursed crest
Easy. Just go to the secret rooms at the start to the big 2 hearth damage enemy
ok well itās at least better than reaper but ya
wanderer is conceptually fine but giving it quick slash was too much
wanderers weaker than others but it takes no skill unlike other crests which take skill to be better
no its really easy
No actually, what also matters is LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE CREST.
If you have a weapon that does 5000 damage with a 20-second charge up it's going to be worse than a weapon that does 50 damage with a half-second charge up, despite the DPS being higher. That's what Hunter vs Wanderer feels like in practice.
yea but how fast can you do that
who can do that the fastest
I feel like itd at least be funny
Fighting GMS while cursed is the way harder part lol, as someone who's done it
no, it's fine the way it is... don't nerf it. If anything, buff reaper and give it a better charged attack
Do both
Wanderer best build is a bit broken honnestly. Have u seen his facetanks?
What you're not taking into account:
- Higher AS means more openings
- Higher AS means more silk
- Quick pogo with literally no chargeup means better repositioning
You're describing that second thing I said, trying to achieve the DPS.
no, plz don't nerf anything... wanderer is fine
if i had it my way, wanderer wouldnt have quick slash, the hunter attack speed would increase with each upgrade, and reaper would have the focus mechanic
can confirm I would rather have an uzi than a musket in a mid range 1v1
i found yet another glitch that allows me to stay in the air indefinitely
youāre underestimating hunters pressure and overestimating wanderers burst
itās very realistic to constantly apply pressure, as iāve stated, so no itās not like hunter just gets a hit and runs away
Nerf Wanderer so idiots have even less reasons to keep saying it's good
Yea i suppose
Except that's not just one factor, it's eight million different factors
is this a gitch or just hitboxes
I honestly don't get the issue
wanderer would be garbage if they took away quickslash.
possibly both
Like honestly TC did a really good job balancing the crests around
I feel like we have 4-5 ish crests which are genuinely good and very usable
And people for some reason feel obligated to say that this one is better because it can do 1.5 more dps against a stationary enemy likeā¦
Stop, itās not that easy
Itās fine to admit that crests are balanced, rather playstyle dependent and that we have a bunch of viable ones
People are assuming that the only thing that matters is who can get the fastest time on like speed kills
Itās so pointless to argue about which crest is better
ARCHITECT will always be the most stupid crest
minimal logic in crest discourse fuck yes š£ļø
Wanderer can apply pressure too that's not a Hunter-exclusive thing
It already is garbage, mate
it would be more garbage?
Deserved
this comparison makes zero sense
Just downward dash bruh
the benefit is the original moveset and consistent pogo plus the crit passive
hunter is excellent in combos you judt have to dodge well
nerf LITERALLY EVERY WAY you can heal damage, then nerf ALL enemy hp to compensate
I think hunter is garbage... that diagonal pogo hit box is diabolical and I don't think I will use it ever.
The crit passive sucks ass actually it's a situational 4% dps increase
but when understanding that they all apply pressure, you start to realize itās not just āhunter gets in 3 hits and wanderer gets in 7ā
:(
eight million, but you listed 3. 3 factors can easily be covered by an umbrella term or phrase, which is what I did
okay but hunter also outpaces it with that pressure with a better dash attack and angled pogo
if they baked in long claw, I might be okay with giving up a little bit of swing speed
bait used to be believeable
Well. Its fun to make broken builds with it. U can get pretty creative. I for example run pimpidillo quick sling for 100 damage off the rip. And then cogfly and plasnium vial with druids eyes
Same here
You used the impressive umbrella term of "literally everything else"
Jesus I was anticipating this chat to be bad, but wow is it worst than I anticipated
Itās people comparing Apple and oranges as if it was sharp shadow and shaman stone
The architect pogo is unironically better than hunters
Crests are good
All of them (besides reaper probably)
it just sounds to me like someone liked running jonis blessing facetank builds in hollow knight 
well that just ain't true
Bait?
No it's not šš
objectively no
architect pogo literally has a worse hitbox than hunters crest
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Oh my god im free from the second grind
Hunter pogo ain't even that hard to use bruh it's a sharp 45 degree angle it's not that hard to position folks
I wont stand for sharp shadow slander
hunter does more damage faster than wanderers, higher atk speed isn't more openings since they engage at practically the same speed
you can hold it down to get the timing right, and feels like it has a larger hit box
Oh boy we have people liking sharp shadow telling people what to use
super forgiving hitbox
It's a very good charm
im ngl when i first played silksong for half the game i didnt get the greymoor map because i forgot there was a right part of greymoor
Engage but don't burst
thank you.
wavedash > turnaround is way faster than 2 wanderer hits and deals way more damage
dash attack attack is way faster than 2 wanderer hits and deals way more damage
mixing these in, you start to realize hunters attack speed is not that much worse compared to wanderer, and the damage difference starts to matter more @honest cedar
My time to head out
or, I guess it is true, but that everything isn't very much
You have to hold it down or else you go 2 millimeters forward
look at everything i said beforre the comma...
Just straight up wrong ong
i just accidentally got shakra to help me with HH gauntlet, IF i restart the gauntlet, will she be here again?
architect pogo literally thrusts you into the enemy and gets you hit if you arent too cautious
no other crest does that
ye
Yes, if you complete her wish she's there always
wanderer and witch pogos also have 0 range but I see nobody complain abt either of those, and even sometimes saying wanderer pogo is best
I FUCKING HATE THIS BOSS YOU CANT EVEN HIT HIM YOU HAVE TO USE TOOLS
Hehe tool victims
I face smash my enemies less with architect than with hunter. I'm constantly undershooting my targets with hunter, and it feels bad
oh great thanks
Because those aren't diagonal
you can get shakra to help in this gauntlet..?
which one's that?
what. who
this is just a player issue not a crest issue
witch literally is diagonal tho
or at the very least at a pronounced angle
ive heard this happening to people and im like did you not go to the clearly large area on the right
Its weird but Wanderer mostly shines on defensive builds as a facetanker. Even tho his moveset tries to be offensive
And Garmond
man i did it second try without her
call me the number one architect pogo hater
The best crest is actually Shaman but we're not ready for this conversation
me as a player think the crest is garbage.
yeah apparently you just have to complete A Trail's End before you do the gauntlet
the best crest is whichever you prefer to use
i go left and i forget about right
THE UNRAVELED IF YOU POGO HIM IT DOESNT DO DAMAGE AND YOU CAN ONLY HIT HIM ONCE IN A BLUE MOON WHICH MEANS NO SILK
I found this out after fighting lace 2 I just became depressed
and Gandalf the Grey
i got both shakra and garmond and only shakra showed up
And Gandalf the White
your reason for this is because you cant aim the pogo 
its fine to not like it but that objectively doesnt make it a bad crest
34% additional attack speed vs 50% additonal damage so no it isn't you make zero sense
you can hit it before it charges and multiple times once it finishes the charge
and Monty Python And The Holy Grail's Black Knight
Oh my god i have to grind more
playing silksong with my cat right now
skill expression and it stops you anyway once you hit them
This chat doesn't understand the words "in practice"
wanderer doesn't need quickslash is the bait that I took to start this argument.
clawline does less damage then me just throwing spaghetti noodles at them
Only one reasonable solution. Ask the cat which crest is the best.
you said that wanderers is better with 100% focus uptime that was you
witch has like triple tje range of wanderer pogo in every direction
MY UI IS GONE
she says "meow"
And Benito Mussolini
I havent used either in some time but Im pretty sure architect and witch will have very similar range
if wanderer didnt have a builtin quickslash no one would ever use it so i dont get the point 
which helps it hit things in front, which is very useful + fan still easily hit things below it
oh a crest discourse at 4am, a very neat way to start this morning
Are you fr?
and the Blue Meanie
Yes, because even though Hunter has more DPS in theory it does not have the ability to do consistent damage like Wanderer does
4am isnāt morning
why do we care about how good a certain playstyle is in a singleplayer game š„±
"Morning" go to sleep mf
It never stops š¤£š¤£š¤£
should I try to derail the crest discourse
Cowboy Curtis
i just woke up 
i went to sleep at 9:30
Maintaining the agenda is our top priority
Thats the god crest after killing grand mother silk. Yea technicaly the best but u cant use it
and Jambi the Genie
Cursed witch crest is the best end of discussion
Robocop
liar
the Terminator
you speak cat?
Sometimes less because of rounding
architetc probably has the most range in the game or at least the second most
No like it's literally a question is what your Sayin real?
If you play wanderer, go play hollow knight. Not skong
Captain Kirk
this bait is a pretty decent one 
Takes some practice, but you absolutely can
I knew it
and Darth Vader
why does the unraveled and the conductor look alike?
I don't like wanderer, I use Hunter
A bit. I just understood she or he said god. Thats all
I donāt like wanderers crest,therefore it is bad
Lo-Pan
that's around the same time I usually get really to go to bed
Superman
Unraveled is puppetting a Conductor shell
Unravelled is a bunch of silk using a Conductor's outfit
she's a girl
i like wanderers crest, therefore its good
what are you even saying, assuming 100% uptime on focus, hunters does more damage and is better in every way
No one likes wanderer. People use it only because itās easy
true
easy
thirty centimeter range
The easiest crest is Reaper and coincidentally it also sucks ass
You do not think,therefore you arent
Every single Power Ranger
Itās not a problem with face tanking
Wanderer is the newbies crest
time to pack this up
i like the moveset and the crit sound tickles my brain
If you want to face tank you go Beast
Bill S. Preston
Where in Pharloom is Carmen Shawdiego? Answers must specify/describe the room or its contents. Gold star to correct guesses, green circle to close guesses. After the first hint, I'll confirm or deny area guesses. Infinite guesses, good luck!
do you guys like my second sentinel drawing i did today
wasnt that reaper?
Crits arenāt gimmick btw
shaman and architect are easier than wanderer
Here's food for thought... the game is called Hollow Knight 2: Silksong... so like, we wanted a sequel to the first game and having the same move set from that game is totally fine for the fandom to want.
And Theodore Logan
Smash
Spock
it's lovely
The Rock
YEAH
please dont say that about my art 
Doc Ock
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD 
aye bubs guess who it is
rock paper scissors lizard spock
And Hulk Hogan
also please dont say this about my art either
not easy
looks inside
just facetank and spam bind
(me by the way)
HOLY PEAK
IM GOING TO EAT YOUR ART
I'm sorry mb
I love you platonically
just finished HH gauntlet with shakra by my side and forgot to hit record
Kinda. But we(most of you) waited 7 years to play hollow knight again?
facetank and spam bind
just go Beast
youre not a newbie if youve played the first game smartie
Thank you you too
whatever
hell yeah
I have a great build of it actually
doesnt the bind end when you get hit
just because you've played the first game doesn't make you instant good at a sequel 
yes we did.
So...it's not a newbie weapon? It's an experienced player from HK weapon?
yeahh but newbie means never played the games before?
if youve played the first hk long enough to get used to its controls you arent a newbie š„±
just wrong
a HK:VH player never played HK:SS before 
No but they played HK
Architect >>>>
NOT OVER THIS
why the fuck are we calling it voidheart
Is Gir here
Wanderer is the crest for people who never actually beat HK
Wanderers crest is hollow knight gameplay but with silk songs parry window
YES WTF ITS SO GORGEOUS
I am also Here
why not 
Kill Sawtooth Circlet
why does everyone say Skarrsinger karmelita is so hard she really isn't
needle focused architect..
you are pushing the freedom granted by the singleplayer game policy
why
Gir I have a question
It scares me
also do you guys like my gf's lacenet and karm drawings 
As a witch crest user die
Did you not see needle only shaman?
which doesn't make them instant good at SS 
hullo 
@rich herald Do you have access to like some kind of list of each instrument used in each track in hollow knight? Random asf sorry
godseeker the goat
Homophobic godseeker I canāt š
But somehow it makes them good at Wanderer?
good
I usually use the reaper because the hunter pogo is too hard and the wanderer is too short, but I was able to clear the last judge and savage beastfly v1 when I switched to the wanderer, because the speed of the hits durning windows of opportunity is pretty good. I don't have enough experience with the architect crest yet.
How is every single one a banger
My hot take: silksong would be better if it wasnāt hk sequel
OH MY GOD LACENET MY BELOVED
lace is older than 18...!
what does that mean
Your very talented
because Wanderer closely resemble HK's gameplay 
@light swan @strange knot hi. Sorry for disturbing u both. But seeing u 2 are from the coven group, do u maybe know some good coven combos on hunter or maybe a place where i can find some?
My hot take is silksong is wonderful and amazing and I don't care about talking about why it's actually bad
actually hornet is a demigod every ship with her is problematic
Its 1:25 am should i sleep
Like, slong is getting too much comparison to hk
No
gir your gf is awesome
Hercules sobbing in the corner:
I had a question about the architect crest... if you have 3 weapons equipped, does it use shards to refill them all even if you didn't use some of the tools?
LACE HAS EXISTED FOR MORE THAN 18 YEARS HER MIND WAS JUST MADE TO BE A CHILD GODDAMNIT
did you just use the warding bell as a counter attack
I dont unfortunately!!!
i do know that christopher larkin uses cubase for his music, and also the instruments come from various libraries for kontakt, which is an instrument loader
but aside from that i have no idea, though ive been super curious about the specific libraries for a long time now and i might look into it
ill let you know if i find stuff
yes
real
"did bro even play the game" did you??
LaceXhornet or shakraXhornet
The choice is yours
No it fucking doesn't lmfaooooo
The ONLY similarity is the basic attacks being short and quick. You still have to learn the bind, Clawline, tools, etc.
he thinks of the bind as an attack
okay bai
Okā¦
(Why have you done this to me)
All three.
this makes me wanna curl into a corner and cry
Idk
ITS PEAK
i got both a yes and a no...
The enlightened mind knows that both can simultaneously exist
take the purple pill (both)
shakra hornet lace
i suppose
Ok ty!! That's already super helpful! I kind of want to remake Fungal Wastes but I have no clue what any of the instruments are called 
hollow knight on top tho...
im closing discord for now I gotta focus on work
bye chuds
I will remember that 1 girl in particular from earlier
Until you have internet,we do not know if the ship is there or not
shakra hornet lace second sentinel lesbian polycule
I HATE THE UNRAVELED
Yes beautiful and true
Don't sleep grind bike water through the whole night
very true
Second Sentinel
Lesbian
IT SUCKS
Trio. Wait should we be worried about Hornet cheating on one of them?
I WANT TO DRAW SILKSONG but I have to draw my HOMEWORK
the attacks is the Crest's main ideology
now you dont have to learn how an attack pattern work for a crest with barely an identity
nonbinary people can be lesbian btw 
do BOTH
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Damn fr?
i also think that its factual that shes older than 18
You assume i have a bike, and water
yes
Okay let me pull up my list of the hollow knight siljsong things I need to draw
You have 2 hands
yes
Is Hunter's attack pattern any different? Do you think it's that hard to learn a pogo?
The specification of 18 is killing me
Hey if anyone in here has given me a request before and I haven't drawn it then @ me and tell me what it was again
I meant bilewater
bye ig lol
tbh any age is too small for hornet
Personal experience tells me HK skill does not equal Wanderer skill
I have not played silksong yet
Draw groal doing the Eminem point meme with the weird exploding orb things he does
draw only one mask shard. just one of them don't draw the other three
I know I want to draw Void Titan and there was something else but I forgor it
That's not how consent works š
@waxen rampart the only combo I can think of itās basic stuff with circlet and clawline. You can do clawline + circlet when enemy is far. I donāt really know because I didnāt play hunter with combos
I'm not accepting NEW requests šš
yikes
Huh? šØ
Hunter's attack pattern has a different pogo, has a gimmick centered around being hitless and 1 less yellow slots in favor of another red slot to diversify its gameplay 
Groal Eminem will rise one day
Okay maybe I'll draw this and turn it into a phantom of the opera thing
coven is for witch crest only btw
only combos i really know is dashing immediately out of a pogo, and then turning around and attacking immediately to cancel the attack, its super fast and safe due to the pogo iframes
theres also the basic dash attack + immediate attack too
lifeblood creature guy
New meme to spam
Yeah my fav toxic evil sick and twisted yuri
THAT'S WHY WE'RE OOMFS
actually i agree lacenet is inappropriate just like any ship with hornet because hornet is a demigod and shes fucking old
The based ones get it
This is very confusing
You assume that i have the money for SS to even get it.
Yellow slots diversify gameplay too btw if you think Hunter is genuinely hard you're trolling, any returning HK player will prefer it to Wanderer because they can do shit hitless pretty easily
So horce is better?
this is normal right itās completely normal that iām doing this
hornet wouldn't even tap that
at this point I'm just not really engaging with the lace nonsense
Sentinet is beautiful
Pirate it no one will judge
ITS NOT HORCEā¼ļø
Ok np. Tnx anyways. I was just running a pure offense set on hunter and had snitch pick and sawtooth on it. So thought to do some funny combos on bosses
Horce š
it's funny cause we know she would
horce?
Thatās fire drawings ngl
Yes very normal
I ship Bretta and Shakra
Horce is woke propaganda
As the last judge,I will judge after everyone else
enough of this horceshit
HORCE
School laptop man. Canāt do that
no she told me she wasn't about that life
HORCEš£ļø
Hornet + lace
Based
honestly thats incredibly cute this is based 
STOP WITH THE HORCE
she ain't tell you shit man
after probably like 30 hours of playtime, i have finally beaten sekiros final boss what a game
Well duh but it sounds stupid
Bretta and Cloth need to be given attention again
horce lmfao
not really ālostā iāve done 3/22 red tools
Based as fuck
i like thk x bretta because im hopeless
Yeah, true
Should I draw cloth chat
i can still put it there
Yes
Last judge was uselessly easy after 3 tries I always got anxiety while fighting it thinkin of the journey back up š«
Doomed whatever we donāt know until we open the box
And you're CORRECT. You are GENIUS.
i heard someone say expedition 33 was the best game of the decade (which is a clinically insane take) and my mind went to sekiro because its that peak
Peak
Shermanet is fucking sucks
Tall knight and the short silly girl holy peak
Now do modded True vessel
yeah that's just insane lol
I do not know if the hollow knight is pure or impure until I open the egg
Citadel Cloth ššš
What's thk?
I love hollowbretta so much... Dying on the floor
The hollow knight
the hollow knight
Isn't that pedo tho
yeah i can
cold take: sherma is a certified child
Also hi
How do yall even come up with these ships????
I should draw THK again
are we deadass
Im sorry?
Huh?
the hollow knight situation is CRAZY(it got worse)
Isn't it old? š„²
isnt any ship with sherma bad cuz hes a child
Not the thk accusations
No
Groal the Great
bretta is literally not a child i am not debating this further she isnt a child 
not any returning HK player, any good returning HK player will favor it
and you will generally start to favor something else as you progress throughout unless your favorable choice is "simple and way too effective" 
i never said it was hard, it wasn't just as diverse and gimmickly fun
yellow: barbed bracelets + dice + quill is the only fundamental ones 
Huh
YES
purple quill here i come
what modded true vessel? the boundless infinity thingy?
I'm aware she's not a child
Yes
Why r we talking about shermanet
He? Isn't she a gril? Or am i just stoopid
That exists???
BRETTA AGE DISCOURSE
Get back to the coral tower karaker
e33 might just be that peak tho i dont even like rpg games but i myself want to play it to see if it really is thst insane
if you agree she isnt then its not. whatever you just said
fa ri du la si ma net
No you
Sherma is a little boy
yeah hes a boy
Genuinely we've hit a new low
Quill
How are you talking about skill bruh
Thk is more of a child than bretta lmao
they conscripted my ass
you know what i'm about to utter 
Donāt care get coral sahured
I don't but ok
thk is a grown ass vessel with Void and Shell
its good but it ain't allat
not liking rpg games is fine its more of a story game anyway imo
Why is chat like. Evil right now
you've got anything else to say?
if i subtract quill then it just make one less fundamental yellow tool i'll use
Pinstress sucks
Ohh damn. Never knew. Now i just feel stupid š„²
-# your idol sucks
infantilizing thk is wild
Donāt you mean tahc
And the infection is still going
She negdiffed fourth chorus she's peak
Greyroot x Dead
i just thought it would be nice to play both goty contenders although the game awards r today did it already happen or is it inna few hours
w vocab
Itās seamstressā¦
seamstress
It's okay
its in a few hours methinks
"THK is a child" no? Did ? You read the journal entry?? Did you compare their SIZE TO GHOST??
Yes, Wanderer isn't "easy mode" and Silksong is still a Hollow Knight game. You don't call people "newbies" when they just start Silksong if they had fucking RadHoG in HK (which I did and I still used Hunter because literally every Crest is easy)
Every crest sucks
TOOLS ARE STUPID š£ļø
THK is plausibly mentally a child although that's up to interpretation
I have to look into this more
This is prime chat rn
Showers and job applications are calling, do you accept or decline?
Fr
Yall are so stupid
yeah thats why they are stupid
You can, because silksong is a different game
We should kill Reaper
?
Not true it's the best crest
who is several people
insane take
Whar
Several people
-# letās rank crests by how fun they are
Yea. Its basic but i still seemed to do so bad at it in comparison to literally first Sinner that i just got anoyed lol. Good caracter, bad battle.
The funnest is beast
Everyone is "mentally a child" according to HK fans they can't comprehend the idea of someone just being depressed
Fuck no
Wjat the fuck are we on about
lacenet haters we need to know
Its unclear if the mind would age conventionally seeing as how they are voided
"Lace is mentally a child" "THK is mentally a child" no they're just suicidal
Its really just Lace
some people are just fuckin idiots ya
Did you guys know adults can't have trauma or be repressed
What does that MEAN
Might I suggest
except Wanderer is easy mode, you get so much for doing barely anything 
And the majority of HK player won't have RadHoG in their back, experienced HK player will but not all HK player is experienced. For their longest time, the average HK player is very used to the Nail 
witch
hunter
architect
wanderer
shaman
reaper
beast
literally dont even know how to engage w that so i wont LMFAOOO
architect if you stop spamming tools in s+
Beast, architect and Wanderer are probably top bc they just let u go all out. Tho architect would be 1 tier lower bc u can also just be lazy with it
Okay chat is too evil for me right now. Bye Gir I'll ttyl
Beast is fun
no mind to think
Adults can have trauma but Lace is like actually a child she's described as one in her journal entry and is explicitly stated to have the mind and body of a child by both Caretaker and herself
Justice for shaman and beast!!!
what would a nuu and lace interaction be like
Pintress is THE MOST anti-player bossfight in the game 
bye rose take care 
What the hell are you seeing that we don't see
me when I want to show up and declare myself as the kind of idiot everyone is talking about:
Lacenet is over I'm sorry pack it up š„
- Shakra calls Hornet a child
- Multiple times in this "disaffirmation" card the context is referring to her being a child as in descendant of GMS
Yeah, true ig. Should try to do it someday
Yeah beast us fĆŗn cuz it keeps your bloods pumping
Me when denial
i like shaman but the others are better
i think spells in this game feel a lot worse than in hk especially after the thread storm nerf
Shakra knows jack about hornet and is immediately corrected. This isn't the case for Lace
yeah you guys seem to deny things a lot huh
U havenāt even said anything
This has been going on for two hours you're not Him bro (you're Them)
You can consider drillitect its own crest
Also in none of these examples would it make logical sense to refer to her heritage
"Look of a child and mind to match" is very explicit
can we talk anout bilewater love/hate next
So is "Silk spun child" and "shaped to act like a child"
no
Bilewater is fucking peak
š
This chat sucks bye
Iām learning bilewater on piano
its one of the three favorite topics of this channel
the infamous studs
Can we kill Team cherry for not confirming half of the theories the fans did and ARE KILLING EACHOTHER BECAUSE OF NO CONFIRMATION
Im not really into beast and just use Wanderer. But i respect beast player and wish succes to them š„
that or we do our apush homework
NO GIR DON'T GO ALL THE PEOPLE I KNOW ARE LEAVING WAAAA
Confirmation was given fans just don't care lmao
Ah, I remember APUSH
team cherry will do anything but communicate with their fanbase
i mean that's one way the game is alive
I'm not a beast player I find it fun tho the pogo is a bit ummm....
apush is mid you don't need hmwk
Reminds me of a certain person who does this currently with their game I wonder who.....
Itās funny tho
It's been years
We are a bit toxic
we
Bro silksong was released a few months ago
Yes we are all a bit toxic š
In the words of Soulja Boy, "YOUUUUUUUUUU"
Are we forgetting hollow knight
wait yo i just goit credits screen in act 2 what the fuck
lace is a child?
U said silksong theories dawg
Wdym, it was released 7 years ago
whos the last boss? 
Yep me too I'm still confused
and wtf is act 3 wtf
I meant hollow knight in general good god I thought it was obvious
Sherma the star
indeed you did
thereās way more you just look around
Everyone can be toxic sometimes ngl. The way and reason just differs as well as intensity
Ok dude
Yeah, Act 3 is a completely optional ending
He's just soul master on crack
wait so this is the end? HAHA
wtf????? What are these ships?????
maybe you right
wtffff
You can get all endings on the same save
Heyyyy... So I just encountered a potentially serious issue. I opened the game (Xbox) and all the save data was gone, like I'd never opened the game before, but the stats still showed on my home page. Luckily I just closed it and opened it again and my saves were there, but if this is a sign of something wrong like a memory issue or something I figured I should say something...
Valid crash out
hk community far less toxic than nightreign or calamity though
Keep playing
hunters march bout to make me strangle myself bro
Probably. Some have more toxicity with them.
yeah we do
Very easy map šš
Hk community isnāt really toxic except few people and silkposting
silkposting is buns yeah
ig bro
what different endings are there tho
He is just godlike
Am I the only one who saw the gojo silksong animation
Where are u in the game. Its not nessicary in act 1 and neither is the beastfly
that ending was so abrupt idk I was expecting a whole new act lolol
No. Itās peak btw
guys
I meant compared to other places but that place is crazy hard there is the unspoken boss there
?????
?????
i fucking did it lets gooo
Basic beat GMS ending which is probably the one you got, Cursed ending for beating GMS while cursed, and the ending you get after beating Act 3
I hate all of you
wtf
Thank you
What's that?
whats act 3 tho
Appreciate it
Yes we do indeed deserve destruction
Same, these ships are crazy. Why am I playing this games
trobbio's purple quill
you have to get to act 3 without ever buying a quill to be able to get it
go play the game twin don't spoil urself

WHERE do you get these ships
Gms x pale kingā¦. Guys, hear me outā¦ā¦.
The brain
You only unlock it after doing many quests and then speaking to the Caretaker to unlock a new quest
I still can't believe seamstress low diffed fourth chorus
You want white lady to crash out?
GMS x Radiance actually
That's lez
How do u go from hating ships to shipping
I ship those two. Enemies to lovers
Exactly it's great
You are obsessed with Sherma
lock this guy up
This is pedo
silksong freakls when there is an unshipped child
Sherma is a grown ass man
What am I reading
My ship. Hear me out but what about scarrsinger karmelita with Seth?
Whay
You ship a clanker and a bird
Was it ever confirmed he was a grown adult
Sherma is an oblivious religious follower that blindly believes a dogma and undergoes a revelation after seeing the suffering in the "golden" Citadel
Idk. They both just feel like they would go well. Idk exactly why
Hear me out.... Karmelita and sly
Was it ever confirmed Kratt isn't a four day old infant that just grew really fast like Superboy Prime
Ducking shitwater
No part of his arc or character makes him a child, he's naive
Wait, this is actually smt I can understand. We needed karmelita ship
YAAAYY
Was literally being genuine about the question but you decided to be rude
Ur speaking like u know what ur talking abt but ur just saying stuff
wait how do you get him to go there??
I will never understand you shippers
Two master warriors
chat em up
Are we deadass
Yeah, but itās kinda strange, because of fucking size difference
Nah. That just sounds weird ngl. They dont fit eachother
Bell Hermit would rather die
Should I call mods to mute him?
whats next, pilby x greyroot?
Yes
We don't say this with thkandbretta
What's the central theme of Silksong you have twenty seconds
Yes
bug
They do nothing but troll every time I've seen them
STOP
Hornet gets captured and sent to pharloom
DONT GIVE IDEAS š¤£šš„
No, no, just bring the hammers
Letās bring hammer of justice
Greyroot is a sex offender and also sold me """pollip hearts""
Greyroot is evil so yeah I wouldn't date her
Last judge and second sentinel vs the five knights?
you don't say... I never would've thought thanks for warning me
Mask irl
@marsh spoke I died to blasted steps mask shard am I cooked forever
abort your children or else untold horrors and desolation will occur
I hate pilby but even he doesnāt deserve this
I canāt be here anymore
Too much skomg
Maybe the silksong fandom slander was deserved
holy shit that's genius
like masks but irl
Fr
not a single good discord community
exactly wtf did he do to deserve kratt
oh yeah I found the huge flea
The air:
Was there a good community to begin with
š¤
Pilby and Sherma should've become friends
I wanna cuddle with the huge flea so bad
I hate pilby because he does nothing and dies
but somehow you hate pilby even more than me because you ship him with kratt
mario kart world lowk
Iām so good at timing, I came to stream at one of the the most interesting moment
I think silksong characters hate eachother and wants everyone dead
Gege ahh reasoning
sherma is a pacifist but as soon as he saw pilby he wouldāve slammed his hat down pilbyās throat because thatās how horrible pilby is
Why are we commenting tacos with 2 childs being friend? Uh oh
what
Idk what the taco react is
Whats your thought process
I'm making cheeseburgers does anyone want any
YES
ME
two cheeses pleese
Meeee
pilby is bad and sherma is good therefore sherma would hate pilby
yeag
OKAY OKAY CALM DOWN
What's your favorite crest and area?
is sherma a child???? who entrusted a child to be the new caretaker and get medical resources on his own
. Can someone explain wtf is this emoji
one pleaseburger cheese
Sounds amazing. Just went to Burger King yesterday but im ready for more š„
favourite crest, hunter
favourite area, the cradle
Burger of sherma
It makes sense now ššš
Clementine throughout walking dead game series type situation
witch
weavenests in general
witch and sands
you like architect crest shut up
Crest architect
Area moss grotto
It works for me, 
wtf are your picks on areas. Moss groto, cradle, atla
Coral tower, wanderer
the super freak is talking
?
Moss grotto is peaceful and I like the weavenest there
Wanderer memorium
I donāt like cradle based on gameplay
I like how it looks
also lace is there
Definitely would have to say reaper (I like the pogo)
Memorium is so diverse I like it
Moss groto is the best pick of three. There are nothing cool in cradle or atla
Reaper and Cogwork Core
Ćrea?
Yeah, underrated asf
for gameplay my favourite area is citadel of song
Parkour addict
Yeah
I love bell beast
Itās like Iām in some kind of fungal wastesā¦
I don't like it
bell beast is the second best character after lace
Do you even like anything
Second after Sherma imo
You'd get negdiffed my mantis lords lwk
I like cogflies
why do you hate bell beast
I discovered Groal the great shortcut but its still annoying asf
What's your favorite boss?
why you so bubbly bubble man
why does pilby deserve to be thrown into the abyss where the void will rend apart his mind
whoever designed first sinner fuck you
The hell did pilby do
Hear me out. Im not gay but clockwork dancers is still my fav
Do i really need to do groal the great after unlocking the shortcut
Sister of battle peak
he did nothing
thatās why I hate him
No I just like robots and the music is dope
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I DONT SPAWN BACK WITH MY TOOLS
That's actually a good pick
yea well I am gay and it makes Cockwork Dancers even peaker
All he did is sitting and you hated him šššš I'm crineššš
Such crine
Welcome to pharloom
i hate this boss š«©
maybe if he knew how to get up and walk he wouldnāt get crushed by 30 tonnes of skull tyrant
Groal
let me go back to hallownest
He can be saved tho
My favorite boss is fourth chorus
how do you think he gets to Pilgrim's Rest exactly
teleportation?
Do you hate everyone then?
Skull tyrant was too fast too
Lost lace is the best boss
š š š š š
yeah I saved him from skull tyrant so that i can make the rhinogrund kill him instead
Why you assuming their weight that's rude
burgers are going well just to update those that want one
I love burgers
Actually incorrect itās the entirety of coral tower
The concept of liking lace and hating pilby
I did unlock the shortcut which makes it runback easy asf but the boss itself is so hard
69:69:69:59:420
35 Jump St
I wish I had a burger irl right about now
no because every other character actually does something
pilby is useless and meaningless
I should add on to that second sentinel grill drawing
Coral tower is peak. Especially hitless witch without red tools
Pilby can also move to a different place though
lace is the polar opposite of pilby because she takes up 90% of the story lmao
you stole from me!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!3!37:):!!2):3!):$:7:7:!ā¬7/$:$.
And nart
Real, and the design is rlly good too
You do realise you don't necessarily interact with NPCS to get stuff right
Itās you
I should animate a silksong fight scene
binding the delver's drill to the up red tool feels so wrong. why do i go down if i press the up button?
Yayyyy
sherma tells a story of the loss of innocence and he has a character arc, he is much more useful than pilby
Mask Maker is useless and meaningless
Sherma is useless and meaningless
Creig is useless and meaningless
or we can try respecting the small pilgrim
Wassup
All her screen time was basically rude and mean, not saying she is useless
There are only 5-6 annoying waves only surprisingly
hornet v sentinel š£ļø
Is there any trick or tool to defeat groal easily
all three of them have more meaning than pilby
Mayhaps..
What is goodie
Food
Or even... Sentinel versus PHANTOM.... My two favorites
Hit him
mask maker is lore i think
sherma is necessary to get to act 3
creig is for act 3 i think
H
I love both of them
the knight v shakra
Knight curbstomps
knight would eventually win but Shakra is very, very, very fast
- 1 elder huu nothing else to say
faster than sly
I do but
I always get close enough which makes me loose my health
Wait
Do you think dash master and sprint master were semi higher beings?
You definitely hate Pondcatcher Reed then
Probably, they invented the concepts of both
dash master yes sprint master no
Realistically Ghost wins a lot of fights because they can die and come back
at least he doesnāt die like pilby
I donāt think respawning is canon
It literally is
kind of??
How?
I consider it canon because of the whole "regrets" and shades thing. Especially with Jiji
You literally said you hated pilby because he is useless
egg gal
The knight leaving its shade is canon
and pondcatcher reed gets food for everyone else
pilby does nothing
but thats very much so interpretation territory
and the game of the year is...... ||SILKSONG!! š·ļø š„ ||