sk-discussion

[keen solstice]

No, reaper is just that garbage.

[native canyon]

MY LACE ALSO COMES TODAY I NEED TO CHECK ACTUALLY

[smoky bridge]

Trust me its NOT hard at all to chain pogos with reaper crest

[lofty shell]

go to #hk-discussion

[torn token]

The coverage is to big for most enemies to evade

[hoary valve]

wait mb

[astral plaza]

hunter pogo lowk best one, so good for chasing enemies

[smoky bridge]

Reaper crest is quite literally designed for newbies or begginers to an extent

[keen solstice]

It's not big enough, reaper is too slow

[hollow geyser]

Fuck it i can’t

[keen solstice]

And it's worse than the unupgraded starter crest

[smoky bridge]

Yup massive skill issue

[torn token]

Skill issue

[hollow geyser]

Every try i just get mollested more and more

[smoky bridge]

Its LITERALLY the biggest pogo hitbox on the entire crest system

[hollow geyser]

Skill issue ):

[lofty shell]

that has to be wanderer
it has hk's moveset which is quite easy to master
perfect for beginners
as silksong is meant for people who play hk before silksong

[coarse leaf]

it's actually bad because it lures them into a false sense of security that if they keep pogoing surely they won't get hit
and them the enemy just jumps or flies into them

[torn token]

Either that or u have played beast WAY to much

[native canyon]

it's not here yet

[smoky bridge]

Its low range makes it relliant on dodging

[native canyon]

fangamer hates ME specifically

[smoky bridge]

Actually, depends on which version of begginers you want

[high ravine]

Any dlc information?

[smoky bridge]

Wanderer is meant for hk players (?)
While reaper is meant for people who prioritize survival and safety

[keen solstice]

And it's LITERALLY the slowest pogo

[lofty shell]

reaper is a crutch for people who decided to play silksong just to chase hype and didn't play hk before

[blazing bramble]

only that it's happening

[gloomy hill]

As a HK player I don’t like wanderer

[pine imp]

tbh i played silksong before playing much of hk, and wanderer was still my favorite by far

[high ravine]

Using shaman cuz it’s cool

[torn token]

Because a quarter of a second matters that much 💔

[native canyon]

bandwagoners get punished that's good

[smoky bridge]

Again, skill issue if you cant chain pogos lmfao

[keen solstice]

It's easier to chain pogos on every other crest

[rancid stag]

where's seth at i got 2 hearts

[iron zealot]

No
Architect exists

With the most ass needle moveset

[keen solstice]

Uncharged architect pogo

[smoky bridge]

I love reaper crest and i can safely say its the top 4 best crest
Its relliable
Flexible with red/blue and yellow tools
And its simple enough for begginers to use

[lofty shell]

whats your favourite crest

[native canyon]

I mean reaper can still chain pogos decently well

[rancid stag]

i got conjoined and pollen he ain't here

[keen solstice]

Architect needle moveset is great, lmao.

[gloomy hill]

Hunter

[coarse leaf]

Hunter

[delicate matrix]

Wanderer

[native canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hunter-hunter-crest-gif-15669412957397272868

[rancid stag]

wanderer

[smoky bridge]

Not decently
Its a monster at chaining pogos if used right

[keen solstice]

It's objectively the worst crest
Mediocre range
Worst output
Same tool slots as hunter while being the worst crest
Mediocre silk gen
Worst passive in the game

[iron zealot]

No its not
Its small af
And the pogo is clunky af

[smoky bridge]

Massive skill issue bro

[keen solstice]

You get hunter at the very start and it's already better than reaper

[spare isle]

Groal the Great

[native canyon]

hunter and reaper having the same slots is like when an ugly bitch calls you twin

[rancid stag]

also a mid-act 1 wanderer crest

[smoky bridge]

Dude with reaper crest you DONT use the vertical swipes
I agree its range is kinda clunky

But pogoing with reaper is so satisfactory

[keen solstice]

With reaper crest you DON'T use reaper and just swap out for ANY other crest because literally all of them are far better

[smoky bridge]

Thats mainly how i fight bosses

[manic knoll]

only great slash with architect is satisfactory

[torn token]

Reaper pogo is objectively the best one in the game ESPECIALLY for parkour

[spare isle]

it's an emoji that doesn't work because i don't have nitro
please pretend it's there
it's continuous nod of approval and agreement

[coarse leaf]

bro cut the pogo spam and u instantly get hit less from aerials

[smoky bridge]

Nah, i can list a ton of cases were reaper has came in handy

[rancid stag]

where's seth at?

[pine imp]

reduced versatility's a pretty big deal tbf

[lofty shell]

here is my crest ranking

1. architect
   souls magic build of silksong
2. hunter
   can get really high needle dps when fully focused and has a really good tool setup
3. shaman
   pale nails, cross stitch and thread storm with volt filament and weavelight go brrr
4. witch
   tactical nuke incoming
5. beast
   ooga booga rage mode tank
6. wanderer
   i mean its alright like
7. reaper
   good as a crutch for bad players
   thats it

[manic knoll]

beast to low

[torn token]

Reaper is the worst crest but it's pogo is the best in the game

[smoky bridge]

Architects boring af
Hunter w
Shaman w
Witch sucks
Beasts only good for tryhards
Wanderer eh

[keen solstice]

Such as?
Any case for damage? Every other crest does better
Parkour? Multiple crests do it better
Silk gen? Multiple crests do it better there is realistically no reason to use reaper

[iron zealot]

Wanderer and hunter is better
Wanderer is you cant do the diagonal

But the hunter is THE best, you just have to get used to it

[keen solstice]

Beast is literally good for anybody, it's literally the 2nd most braindead and 2nd most broken crest

[delicate matrix]

Im jolly now

[normal tinsel]

Reaper looks cool so its A tier for me

[coarse leaf]

I can see why some people call crest discussion crestslop this topic is endless lol

[smoky bridge]

I hate the fucking pogo bro

[lofty shell]

thats why architect is souls magic build of silksong
extremely broken but unfun to play
witch is good
you need to git gud
i mean probably
wanderer is solid

[normal tinsel]

All of them are cool to me so they're all good

[pine imp]

just not real, neither i or my bf could ever figure out beast crest

[blazing bramble]

architect is fun even without tool spam tbh the needle strike is satisfying to hit

[keen solstice]

Skill issue, it's one of the best pogos, deal with it.

[iron zealot]

In act 1 reaper is kinda good because of that extra little range,
After that it falls of hard
And sucks

[hollow geyser]

Ok i will play my last try if u don’t beat her i am probably going to study math and try tomorrow

[normal tinsel]

There i fixed it

[rancid stag]

how do i get seth to appear in locations?

[smoky bridge]

For exploration and shit bro

[keen solstice]

Quick guide on how to use beast
Bind
Attack
Good job, you learned how to use beast

[torn token]

Your the one with a skill issue if your saying reaper pogo is bad 💔

[smoky bridge]

Its so cancerigenous to use
Reason why i never used it in the end

[coarse leaf]

u need 1 other heart for him to start his wanderings

[native canyon]

anyways it's time to read so byeee chat byeeeee @marsh spoke

[iron zealot]

Its not bad, but others are FAR better

[rancid stag]

conjoined counts doesn't it?

[keen solstice]

https://youtube.com/shorts/BFR3HhuXEPo?si=Ed2GnMk3_gQqmPPD
https://youtube.com/shorts/iBBPRqYOoT8?si=No_GCRirfHlRyMWy

[coarse leaf]

yea

[gloomy hill]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-beast-gif-7167947808925894620

[pine imp]

ok

[smoky bridge]

Dude deadass
So you say beasts pogo isnt tjat bad but reapers pogo is LITERALLY the easiest pogo on the entire fuckign game

[blazing bramble]

look in greymoor i believe

he has another location after that close by

[smoky bridge]

Its not the best pogo, its just the easiest to use holy shit

[normal tinsel]

Am I the only one who doesn't think the meta matters in a singleplayer game

[rancid stag]

HE AIN'T EVEN HERE

[smoky bridge]

I never really liked speedrunning bossfights

[lofty shell]

try that on passing of the age platforming section above the cradle

[blazing bramble]

you only have to beat nyleth right?

[rancid stag]

i beat her

[coarse leaf]

@rancid stag u need to obtain another heart more specifically, or have the everbloom

[keen solstice]

Uh
It's literally the first vid
Lol

[rancid stag]

i got conjoined and pollen

[torn token]

Beast def isn't the worst and it's good for a chase but it's not very good at anything else

[blazing bramble]

the wiki says you gotta get something else after (it's a spoiler but it's a mandatory quest item so you will get just by main objectives)

[keen solstice]

????
The best crest for facetanking
The 2nd best crest for needle DPS
The 2nd best at anti air

[smoky bridge]

The fact you took damage

[rancid stag]

just tell me

[torn token]

U just split different combat things into three things 💔

[smoky bridge]

Really means smth

[coarse leaf]

did u get conjoined before beating seth

[blazing bramble]

3 hearts and then go back to shamans or a 4th heart

[rancid stag]

yeah

[coarse leaf]

need to obtain another heart

[keen solstice]

You would take damage on any crest if you mistime the pogo with the guy floating right above you, lmfao

[pine imp]

beast is easiest to mistime though?

[keen solstice]

You would pogo right into them

[smoky bridge]

Literally

[keen solstice]

Not really no

[smoky bridge]

Mf you fumbled twice

[torn token]

Beast is the definition of risk vs reward

[marsh spoke]

WANDERER SUCKS

Wanderer is, in terms of combat, a crutch and a detriment. It has its uses in platforming, however in combat it often serves as a disadvantage, builds bad habits, and is frankly unneeded.
"But it’s free damage!"
No, it isn’t. Hunter does 78 dps on max focus, Beast does 82, while Wanderer does a measly 70. You can also only equip one tool at a time, so whenever you opt to use something like Flintslate for passive bonus damage you also lose the opportunity to use more active tools like Curvesickle or Voltvessels, and vice versa. Furthermore, despite having roughly the same length as Hunter's attack, the Wanderer attack hitbox has the worst area coverage in the game. This means that Wanderer, unless used perfectly, misses a significant amount of swings any time a boss repositions vertically. Another option would be using Longclaw to boost its range and hitbox, meaning you have to burn a blue slot that could be used on something else just to get a usable hitbox. To put into perspective how much a blue slot means, with 3 blue slots you could equip Volt Filament, Injector Band and Sawtooth Circlet, 3 of the best tools in the game to completely trivialise everything. Except you can't do that because one slot has been burned on Longclaw. So no, Wanerer isn’t “free damage”, in fact, the less often you use it, the more damage you will do
" I literally can’t play without Wanderer anymore"
It’s still best to rip the band-aid off and try to fight advertisement of the crest just because people develop bad habits. It forces you to learn an entirely different way to play which is often detrimental and requires it to be unlearnt when one swaps away from Wanderer, whether it’s because they’ve seen it’s flaws or because they’re doing a crest locked run.

[smoky bridge]

Stop talking dawg
Skill issuer and beast crest glazer 💔💔💔

[hollow geyser]

Dunked on me💔

[light swan]

yea !!

[hollow geyser]

Holy yap

[keen solstice]

???
Wdym twice
I literally only got hit once

[smoky bridge]

Yes, beast crest is good but anybody in this putrid world would use beast crest for exploration holybsjit ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[keen solstice]

https://youtu.be/cQ_Y7kRfdFk?si=XzrI2KBPBrD3ck2O

Reminder
Beast is the best option for clawlineless mount fay

[pine imp]

yes? what other crest has so many vulnerable frames at the beginning of it? (architect ig, but at least that airstalls during it)

[coarse leaf]

bad idea to get off the ground unless dodging a ground move

[hollow geyser]

Hunter is the best crest

[rancid stag]

with frost?

[torn token]

This, this is can't argue with

[livid panther]

i hate hunters march

[lofty shell]

now rant on reaper

[coarse leaf]

hunter with the goated synergy with barbed

[marsh spoke]

REAPER SUCKS

end of essay

[torn token]

Fair

[smoky bridge]

You know what fair, its probably the only case where beast can be good at exploration

[livid panther]

I cant even get to the arena in hunters march because of the stupid parkour

[keen solstice]

Beast works everywhere for exploration and you can stop pretending it doesn't

[orchid locust]

yooo wait beast pogo genuinely the goat hold on

[lofty shell]

every crest is capable of exploring

[marsh spoke]

feel free to edit my wanderer rant btw the slander needs to be perfected

[smoky bridge]

Dude the pogo is more insufferable to use than reapers
And you cant argue with that

[keen solstice]

Nowhere near
Beast pogo is smooth everywhere
Reaper pogo is janky and garbage

[rancid stag]

i just got mugged by some of grindle's things

[smoky bridge]

Ts has to be ragebait bro

[livid panther]

any advice for huntere march

[torn token]

Yk what fuck it HUNTER HAS A BETTER POGO THAN BOTH

[lofty shell]

git gud

[coarse leaf]

u can come back later to it at any time when you feel better prepared for it

[lofty shell]

hunter's pogo is peak

[keen solstice]

Reaper pogo literally stops all your momentum and pauses you midair with a fuckass huge delay
Beast pogo literally throws you straight at the target and easily lands the pogo

[livid panther]

ik butits early game

i rlly wanna get it done before i go deep docks

[wheat breach]

wanderer pogo is just hollow knight

[torn token]

Quick,easy, and versatile

[wheat breach]

is savage beastfly in the marrow?

[keen solstice]

https://youtube.com/shorts/poMlw698VFg?si=RBtQ_Onq7GZTV4qe

[rancid stag]

i'm gonna hate coral tower's heart

[smoky bridge]

Ok but quick question
You are aware ur only gonna pogo when it actually benefits you right?

[lofty shell]

alright guys
why the fuck are we even arguing about crest pogos?
every pogo is made to be useable and good

[smoky bridge]

The milisecond delay doesnt even matter if you are already aware and know how the enemy/boss is gonna move

[coarse leaf]

crestslop discussion never ends

[livid panther]

i see why silksong is much harder than hk

any advice for hunters march yall

[lofty shell]

its easy
if you think sk is harder
go do radiant absolute radiance
or even just P5

[pine imp]

tbh i thought hk was much harder. nothing in silksong threatened me like the radiance or nkg

[rocky lotus]

What areas have you explored other than hunters march

[livid panther]

nkg is easier than hunters msrch

[lofty shell]

you are just not used to hunter crest

[livid panther]

marrow and moss place i can go deep docks if i want

[smoky bridge]

Again, im not gonna argue about why beasts creast pogo is worse than reapers in terms of overall usage
It should be obvious

[keen solstice]

Except it's not obvious and what you're saying is just false

[leaden delta]

uhhh i think theyre pretty equal in terms of a pogo but at least reaper pogo gets to abuse the fuck out of sawtooth

[rocky lotus]

You are way too weak to be dealing with that place. Come back and explore it when you have more upgrades

[leaden delta]

sometimes

[keen solstice]

Reaper pogo is awful compared to beasts, end of story

[livid panther]

i thought hunters march is an early game place

[keen solstice]

I'd rather actually hit the enemy instead of getting stuck mid air

[tranquil axle]

Yeah, beast crest pogo is actually fantastic if you learn how to use it

[rocky lotus]

Its kinda like the graveyard in dark souls 1 where you find it early but you are supposed to do it later

[leaden delta]

beast pogo gets you stuck in the air for 16 frames btw

[livid panther]

oh so elden ring vibes

[smoky bridge]

UR NEVER GONNA DO AN UNSAFE POGO WITH REAPER BTW
YOU WILL ALWAYS ACCOUNT FOR THE ENEMIES MOVEMENT

[keen solstice]

Every pogo with reaper is unsafe
Literally anything can hit you from above or the side, or just knock into you, you're literally stuck in the air

[livid panther]

so should i just go to hunters march when im geared more

[smoky bridge]

Ur taking the milisecond delay as if it was smth that just happens randomly

[rocky lotus]

Yeah there will be crests, upgrades, and skills that will help you with that place later

[keen solstice]

Reminder, NOTHING can hit you while beast pogo is active

[pine imp]

if you're assuming the user has that level of skill, then the crest doesn't matter at all tbf

[livid panther]

ok

ig ill go deep docks after exploring marrow

[pine imp]

*except at the beginning, when you fling your exposed body at them

[keen solstice]

Positioning
Learn it

[pine imp]

rudeness.
forget it.

[smoky bridge]

THATS THE SAME FUCKING ARGUMENT IM USING WITH REAPER CREST BRO

UR ALWAYS GONNA LEARN POSITIONING ANYWAYS

[keen solstice]

Even with positioning reaper pogo still sucks absolute ass

[marsh spoke]

almost killing myselff in hornet 2 because im bored

[leaden delta]

[pine imp]

this guy is literally just ragebaiting actually, I'm out

[vague mauve]

do it immediately. i did

[marsh spoke]

what are we arguing about

[tranquil axle]

what if everyone just agreed that all crests are good sometimes and frolic in the fields of friendship

[leaden delta]

icl ur like really far in the beast hole to the point ur being blinded

[hollow geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-7938150689684025197

[smoky bridge]

I know bro

[leaden delta]

btw what video is this i NEED this i cant find framedata info anywhere

[lofty shell]

guys i was a hunter main in my blind playthrough
if i ever replay silksong
which crest should i main

[keen solstice]

https://youtu.be/ZoWM-_WSlNk?si=7DCHz9au79ufmEcv

[smoky bridge]

I genuinely refuse to believe anyone but this guy would use beast for parkour sections other than mount fays one

[tranquil axle]

uhh

[rocky lotus]

Also there is a secret merchant in hunters march that sells powerful gear so when you come back try to find him

[smoky bridge]

If you mess up a lot, you cant heal if you have backup silk

[azure zenith]

Rewatching the silksong first trailer
“Oh this will have normal beginner bosses nothing too craz- KARMELITA???!? Wait….CRUST KING KHANN?????”

[lofty shell]

any crest can be used anywhere
just git gud

[smoky bridge]

Definitely, just that some crests jave an obvious easier time getting through parkour sections in the first place

And obviously im accounting for people that arent necesarilly the best at those

[keen solstice]

Find me a crest that passes blasted steps faster than hunter and beast

[potent bone]

Trobbio.

[marsh spoke]

giving away my lifeblood to lost kin because i'm bored

[tranquil axle]

yup (idk why I did that to myself lol)

[marsh spoke]

killing myself in no eyes because i'm bored

[lofty shell]

crest system created a hierarchy in society of hk

upper class: hunter mains and witch mains
upper middle class: shaman mains
middle class: beast mains
lower middle class: reaper and wanderer mains
lower class: architect mains

[smoky bridge]

Literally any crest is better than beasts on parkour sections if theres no enemies

[potent bone]

finally upper in something

[keen solstice]

And there's like
2
Whole parkour sections
With no enemies to heal on

[livid panther]

K

[tranquil axle]

yea literally any other one is better

[keen solstice]

In the entire game

[smoky bridge]

Yes, you might be faster than any crest if you use beast
But you also get heavily punished for mistiming

[orchid locust]

the beast hole sounds like something that'd be at mrbeast's theme park

[lofty shell]

can be said for witch too

[smoky bridge]

"But reapers clunkyness sucks ass" yes
And thats why you have to learn positioning on every crest

[lofty shell]

who even needs to heal when you just git gud

[smoky bridge]

Reapers pogo is easy to use for everyone unlike beasts who takes a while to learn properly

[normal tinsel]

Its a singleplayer game use whatever you like

[idle sparrow]

https://youtu.be/P-hgQYGmQ6s I made this video pls check it out

[smoky bridge]

Im really accounting for begginer silksong players with my opinion tbf

[lofty shell]

beginners should use hunter or wanderer
those are the easiest to pick up
architect if they are having a bad time

reaper just sucks

[smoky bridge]

Lie

Actually maybe maybe not
Idfk

[tranquil axle]

I'm too impatient to use reaper

[marsh spoke]

beginners should use hunter and nothing else because nothing else matters

[lofty shell]

shaman is literally act 3
witch requires the most skill out of any crest
beast requires a lot of skill too

[smoky bridge]

I killed moorwing via pogoing so badly lmfao

[light swan]

the better you get at beast the easier it gets

[smoky bridge]

I am patient enough for reaper crest
And thats why i like it

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-reaper-crest-gif-17966729165143027625

[orchid locust]

beginners should use the crest

[smoky bridge]

Tru

[raw crystal]

reaper peak

[tranquil axle]

^^^

[lofty shell]

i just got garmond to help for moorwing because i wanted to progress his questline as i am a completionist

[raw crystal]

ongolly

[normal tinsel]

Silksong players should use whichever ones they like

Cuz the game is relatively balanced in that regard

[light swan]

i dont think beginners should use wanderer, it ruins other crests for them

[hollow estuary]

personally i used reaper for all of act 1 and most of act 2 but then i realised i was missing out on so much by not using anything else lol

[smoky bridge]

Wanderer is fine by itself
Wanderer + long claw is just fatherless behaviour

[light swan]

wanderer has more range than hunter

[smoky bridge]

???

[lofty shell]

heres what beginners should actually do
mess around with every crest they find
see what they personally like and then main that

[tranquil axle]

Yeah that's how I discovered how fun beast crest is

[smoky bridge]

And never use beast/witch if they get triggered easily from dying

Once they learn how to use them tho

[leaden delta]

i did wanderer on my first playthrough cuz i was omega comfortable iwth it

[normal tinsel]

Don't use the pale crest tho its completely unbalanced

[smoky bridge]

THE FUCK

[leaden delta]

i loooooooove quick slash

[silver oak]

any silkers in chat

[smoky bridge]

Hollow knight playstyle rot

[light swan]

i went from reaper to witch
one of the easiest crests to the hardest crest
and my first boss was first sinner, a boss that hard counters witch
MAN was it worth it

[tranquil axle]

This is when I fully discovered the power of this crest

[silver nacelle]

I dislike wanderer.

[light swan]

✅

[marsh spoke]

i hope they add quickslash in the dlcs

[orchid locust]

no, everyone here hates silksong ✅

[light swan]

no

[silver oak]

silksong is already my 5th most played game of all time

[smoky bridge]

I feel gay playing wanderer + longclaw so i balanced it out with barbed wire

[silver nacelle]

Are the wanderer crest and flea brew a joke to you?

[light swan]

wanderer is always just op

[silver nacelle]

Your crest disgusts me.

[leaden delta]

i feel gay always

[smoky bridge]

Im not used to playing w this crest btw

[light swan]

other crests take so much more effort to reach the same level of strength

and even more effort just to outclass wanderer

[marsh spoke]

wait you're right

[silver oak]

people say reaper is easy mode but really wanderer is easy mode

[silver nacelle]

Understood.

[marsh spoke]

it should be a green tool and wanderer should not be allowed to equip it fuck wanderer

[lofty shell]

how do you guys spend that many hours in games
the most amount of hours i have spent is in hollow knight which is 213+ hours
second most being dark souls 3
that being 184 hours
third is probably ultrakill

[rocky lotus]

I have never seen anyone say reaper is easy mode

[light swan]

and every wanderer user i see just, cant play other crests at all because wanderer is toxic for the mind

[silver nacelle]

Yes. Flea brew is quickslash the same way flintslate is unbreakable strength.

[silver oak]

it was more of an opinion closer to release

[smoky bridge]

Claw mirrors are goated btw

[lofty shell]

architect is easy mode

[leaden delta]

they should make silkspear a few frames faster

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-6069929492524291916

[marsh spoke]

also on an actual serious note flea brew isnt quickslash because flea brew doesnt work

[lofty shell]

only when you are running a witch build

[normal tinsel]

They should make a hard mode mod

[rocky lotus]

I guess people realized it wasn't all that great then

[lofty shell]

play "no double damage but better" mod

[silver oak]

I mean it is a very safe crest

[smoky bridge]

Even without witch builds
Its still hella awesome to oneshot spawner minions

[silver nacelle]

Also, wanderer is the only crest with a special pogo after the dash attack.

[tranquil axle]

They should make a mode where if you die you lose your save file, that'd be cool

[silver oak]

the silk orbs and the floaty pogo are good for survivability

[normal tinsel]

But I want enemies to be faster

[lofty shell]

if you wanna oneshot spawners minions
just use some kind of silk skill like thread storm

[rocky lotus]

Yeah but wanderer is just reaper but better in almost every way

[smoky bridge]

Am i gay for preffering cross stitch over it

[leaden delta]

why are we saying gay like its a bad thing

[silver nacelle]

Except range and attack area.

[smoky bridge]

Its not btw

[marsh spoke]

i'm gay

[leaden delta]

me too

[delicate matrix]

guess what im doing 👀

[tranquil axle]

I'm not bad :(

[normal tinsel]

Oh my gog

[marsh spoke]

i love being El Jibbity

[silver oak]

realistic groal

[lofty shell]

umm no

[smoky bridge]

I HATE THIS BITCH

[raw pawn]

Remember when the green prince was mourning his mate and hornet invaded his memory and killed him because she is very homophobic? /j

[lofty shell]

dying is gay

[marsh spoke]

also how the fuck does instawings work i keep accidentally triggering and i dont understand how

[light swan]

not that thats even that useful

[delicate matrix]

shes racist

[leaden delta]

also damn cross stitch really is frame 1 yea that shit is better than ddark

[silver nacelle]

Yeah, but I feel jealous.

[raw pawn]

Ddark easier to use tho

[leaden delta]

barely

[light swan]

you can force it to activate using momentum and iframes too whic is nice

[lofty shell]

does it work on getting hit by projectiles

[light swan]

it works on everything you can take damage from except maybe hazards i haven’t tried that

[raw pawn]

Projectiles you can parry

[potent bone]

Trobbio.

[silver nacelle]

It works on everything. I'm pretty sure you can parry lava too since you can parry electricity.

[raw pawn]

Like it prob doesn't work on spit squit projectiles

[lofty shell]

so you basically can become V1 in silksong with this

[light swan]

why not

[leaden delta]

electricity isnt a hazard though

respawn hazard, i mean

[silver nacelle]

Idk who v1 is, but you can literally fall into the enemy and parry the contact damage.

[golden lintel]

i got twisted child : D

[tranquil axle]

how does it feel being a new parent

[leaden delta]

it shouldnt work on respawn hazards im pretty sure

[raw pawn]

Ping greyroot for a free signature

[coarse leaf]

you can disable automaic emojis in the discord settings

[marsh spoke]

this is pretty easy to test out tbh (falling lava in deep docks)

[lofty shell]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-v1-roomba-knife-v1roomba-gif-26716270

[golden lintel]

huh?

[coarse leaf]

saw that you edited the emoji out

[silver nacelle]

Oh, I have not played ultrakill.

[leaden delta]

ok i hate myself im opening cg

[lofty shell]

https://youtu.be/cwQUTBq_ccc?si=LqZg16zJk0IcESb9
accurate

[leaden delta]

cant wait for 4-e

[potent bone]

MINI V1!

[potent bone]

parry remembers me NKG

[silver nacelle]

What?

[potent bone]

"SEH"

[potent bone]

Nightmare King Grimm

[blissful junco]

ur telling me theres another savage beastfly.

[silver nacelle]

This stuff is too real.

[golden lintel]

sucks

[potent bone]

yes

[blissful junco]

and my dumbass activated act 3 before killing it.

[silver nacelle]

I know who NKG is, I'm talking about your terrible grammar.

[blissful junco]

now it has 1200hp. and void attacks.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[light swan]

it doesn’t spawn ads

[potent bone]

lol

[golden lintel]

lol

[light swan]

it’s low-key much easier

[verbal coyote]

widdow is gay

[cunning geode]

ok

[silver nacelle]

👌

[golden lintel]

widow is she

[green valve]

WHAT THE FUCK WAS WILLIAM PELLEN THINKING WHILE MAKING THIS HOLY SHIT WHAT WERE YOU SMOKING

[golden lintel]

so all correct

[marsh spoke]

are women not allowed to be gay

[leaden delta]

theyre all gay

[green valve]

WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU SMOKING

[robust flame]

Lol

[verbal coyote]

exactly everything in him is male but he is a femele

[blissful junco]

average bilewater experience

[leaden delta]

what

[green valve]

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU HOW SADISTIC DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO MAKE THESE DART THROWING SHITS

[light swan]

bilewater is such a good area

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[coarse leaf]

dart throwing shits when needle strike

[golden lintel]

no average bilewater experience is listening mysic

[robust flame]

It’s a good area thematically horrible to play through

[blissful junco]

wait until bro gets to putrified ducts

[maiden stratus]

I didn't even know this battle and Pristine Core existed

[marsh spoke]

dude what the fuck does that even mean

[silver nacelle]

Stilkin?

[lofty shell]

bilewater is so fun tho

[robust flame]

Be fr

[rocky lotus]

I never thought I would say this but I kinda agree

[coarse leaf]

it's super hidden so fair

[blissful junco]

not when ur using the damn beast pogo and out of red tools

[light swan]

one of my best experiences in silksong was bilewater lol

[maiden stratus]

No one talks about it either

[lofty shell]

git gud?

[tranquil axle]

Personally i'd rather live my life in bilewater than step foot in the underworks

[golden lintel]

git gud

[robust flame]

The beat crest pogo is diabolical how do you guys use it

[marsh spoke]

i think an hkmain struggle twitter account would go really hard to archive the shit some of you people say here

[robust flame]

I like the regular attacks but the pogo trips me up

[silver nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-14514797702729285380

[golden lintel]

beast crest pogo is better that piece of architect pogo

[gusty igloo]

are the things gms attacks us with broken pairs of scissors?

[robust flame]

Actually that looks fun
I guess it’s just hard to master similar to Hunter (which I like)

[orchid locust]

can confirm doesn't work 💀

[cunning geode]

we used to have daily silksong-discussion quotes…

[tranquil axle]

I think they're sewing needles

[green valve]

FUCK THIS FUCKIG SHIT

[golden lintel]

architect pogo is worser copy of hunters pogo.@Terra :3 no,its pin,byt yes

[green valve]

FUCK THIS SHIT HOW THE FUCK DO I SKIP THIS SHIT ANY MOD TO SKIP THIS??

[marsh spoke]

if only the video videod 🔥

[green valve]

ANY MOD TO DELETE THE DART THROWING SHITS PLS???

[silver nacelle]

Damn. You can parry electricity, but not lava.

[orchid locust]

do i have to record my monitor again 😭

[gusty igloo]

a sewing needle shaped like this would be hard to work with

[tranquil axle]

practice makes perfect

[rocky jolt]

they made an entire new arena and even gave a soundtrack for two cogwork clappers

[raw pawn]

Did you know lost lace is originally from lost verdania (yes)

[green valve]

ITS NOT FUCKING SKILL BASED ITS ALL RNG

[tranquil axle]

Looking at it now, it DOES just look like scissors

[golden lintel]

it is not piece of ckissor,i too lazy to wait 10s

[raw crystal]

might be skill issue ngl

[marsh spoke]

possibly

[raw pawn]

Dude why do you complain about everything in this game

[green valve]

Shut the fuck up dumbass i wanna see you in bilewater 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[gilded umbra]

This is accurate right?

[rocky lotus]

Its probably a bit

[raw crystal]

already finished the game

[silver nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/judge-sentencing-meme-bilewater-silksong-gif-6507327091380503587

[green valve]

97% wanderer or architect crest user 🤡

[brave salmon]

I first tried it trust

[green valve]

Talking to a skill hunter player

[tranquil axle]

my guy I parkour through bilewater with beast crest it's not that bad

[raw pawn]

Actually banish him to the underworks

[green valve]

huso Fraudwatch comfirmed??

[raw crystal]

very false

[silver nacelle]

Lol.

[green valve]

Its not parkour ITS THE FUCKING DART THROWING SHITS

WHAT YOU DONT GET ABOUT THIS FUCKING SHIT

[rocky jolt]

bilewater was easy

[green valve]

"guys how can i be different" ahh

[raw crystal]

i use wanderer indeed 😅 😅 😅 😅

[tranquil axle]

^^^

[rocky jolt]

becuz i did putrified ducts first

[green valve]

🤡 noob crest

[silver nacelle]

I find it funny that crestism is actually real. Like, prejudice and harmful stereotypes based on which crest one uses. How did we reach that?

[tranquil axle]

Some things we may never understand...

[raw crystal]

people being racist to crest's now holy
sure bro hunter needs skill keep being delusional

[rocky jolt]

hunter users swear they are the most skilled players in this game until they get stuck on some random medium difficulty boss

[raw crystal]

lmao

[silver nacelle]

;-; I'm losing hope in humanity.

[coarse leaf]

elitism always prevails
"I am better than you" is why we get wars lol

[silver nacelle]

I'm tired of life.

[tranquil axle]

don't we all

[orchid locust]

@marsh spoke

[green valve]

FUCK THIS GAUNTLET

[marsh spoke]

thank you

[green valve]

FUCK THIS S HIT FUCK THIS GAME FUCK EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS SHIT

[odd bridge]

Guys what if instead of saying X crest sucks Y crest is best one we would say X crest doesn't fit my playstyle but Y crest fits me

[silver nacelle]

That's too sensible for these ppl.

[green valve]

Im a hunter main and ur a trash reaper crest, then u flex about being able to beat the game

[raw crystal]

yea bro hunter needs skill and makes the game 10x harder to beat keep being delusional to yourself 😭

[green valve]

Reaper crest plauyers when they cant land 6 consecutive hits : 😖😖😖😖😖😭😭nooo hunter crest is trash

[raw crystal]

i never said hunter is trash i do not care about what crest u use

[green valve]

Reaper crest players when diagonal pogo: Nooo im allergic to this please get this away from me please stay with me dear reaper crest 😭😭😭😔😔

[odd bridge]

I don't use hunter crest since I don't really like downward pogo and passive ability it has

[silver nacelle]

Is this man for real?

[green valve]

Yes because the game encourages it to play well so u decide to go easy mode

[odd bridge]

Prob ragebaiting

[leaden delta]

i think hunter factually does need skill in order to work at full capacity because it need to play hitless

[raw crystal]

ragebait

[marsh spoke]

i spent 30 years building the hunter crest agenda and it was all torn down in less than a week

[rocky jolt]

people use different crests because of their gimmicks not because they dont like hunters pogo

[golden lintel]

yes

[leaden delta]

also that guy is serious i think and he's annoying its swagever

[silver nacelle]

I hope so.

[green valve]

Same stupid bum ahh that said bilewater is easy BTW LOL

[raw crystal]

i never said its easy

[green valve]

CALLING ME A RAGEBAITER WHEN YOU STRAIGHT UP SAID THE MOST WRONG ASS SHIT TAKE

[rocky jolt]

that was me

[leaden delta]

anyways, i think its funny that the beast guy was complaining that reaper pogo sucked and was slow
reaper pogo comes out 5 frames faster

[green valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1444698610590683417/togif-3.gif

[raw crystal]

i just said skill issue lmao and you got mad bec i use A CREST OTHER THAN HUNTER

holy this guy cant be real

[green valve]

USE HUNTER AND DO BILEWATER THEN

"SKILL ISSUE" - REAPER CREST TO HUNTER

[raw crystal]

sure ill do it in my next playthrough

[golden lintel]

i have did

[rocky jolt]

nobody glazes their crest's pogo as bad as beast mains idk why

[odd bridge]

No, hunter focuses on dodging someone can say that hunter is easy mode since it deals more damage when not getting damaged

[raw crystal]

but im not playing the game again untill dlcs so

[green valve]

"SKILL ISSUE" - GUY WHO IS ALLERGIC TO DIAGONAL POGO AND HUNTER PASSIVE

[green valve]

Yeah find excuses 🤡

[silver nacelle]

Because their pogo was hailed as trash before so now they're holding it like a precious baby.

[raw crystal]

i can play hunter i just prefer reaper

[green valve]

BEcause reaper is easy mode crest 🤡

[gusty igloo]

these are scissors and you cant convince me otherwise

[rocky jolt]

yea lmao

[raw crystal]

why would i do a whole another playthrough just to prove to you that i can do it

[silver nacelle]

Also, Bilewater is painful regardless of crest.

[astral plaza]

unless you have wreath of purity, then its just annoying until it breaks, then its painful

[raw crystal]

i mean it is but that doesnt stop me from saying skill issue

[gusty igloo]

goal the gay

[silver nacelle]

True. Or multibinder which just means you heal one less mask than normal.

[lost reef]

Is it ok if the song had silked and made silksong?

[astral plaza]

does multibinder actually do that when infested

[leaden delta]

yea beast people kinda glaze the fuck out of their pogo (it is effectively not a pogo)

[untold dune]

yeah the first bind removes the maggots and the 2nd heals for 2

[silver nacelle]

Yeh, team cherry patched it recently. The first half of the multibinder bind clears the maggots.

[lost reef]

We are all lucky team cherry made that change

[leaden delta]

like it isn’t THAT good. you can have all these good attributes AFTER you get past the 15 frames of startup but like the fact it takes that long and positioning makes it not insane

[untold dune]

fr

[lost reef]

Yeah we all know wanderers quest or architect crest solos

[silver nacelle]

Not if we're ppl who already finished the game before the patch dropped ;-;.

[coarse leaf]

all this elitism makes me wonder where's the scuttebrace mains

[untold dune]

they exist?

[lost reef]

Well I did but I want to play again so win win

[orchid locust]

breaking news: pharussia takes control of east skarrelia

[leaden delta]

it also can’t use sawtooth very well to my knowledge

[coarse leaf]

maybe idk

[silver nacelle]

Perhaps. Perhaps.

[steep jolt]

the fuck is a forth chourus

[untold dune]

just wait until verdany invades them

[orchid locust]

weaver heir franz ferdinand shot dead in skarrajevo ‼️

[marsh spoke]

its a pretty cool pogo icl

[floral tiger]

no

[naive osprey]

Look up and you'll see it

[silver nacelle]

It's, like, 50 bug souls shoved into a giant robot.

[coarse leaf]

WE... ALL... TOGETHER...

[light swan]

architect pogo goat

[rancid stag]

there's an arena with platforms before khann right?

[marsh spoke]

ok i'm done with p5 for now i genuinely just 2 shot myself at uumuu

[rancid stag]

how many waves are in it?

[fathom rapids]

Khaan isnt hard so dont worry about it

[rancid stag]

what abt the arena b4 him?

[fathom rapids]

Ye better focus on that lol

[elfin pumice]

The one with 3 platforms and the spikes under?

[fathom rapids]

Idk how many waves tho sorry

[rancid stag]

yup

[elfin pumice]

That is the shortest one

[silver nacelle]

Not hard, tbh. But then again, I use volt shaman which one shots almost everything with one spell.

[green valve]

FUCK GROAL THE GREAT

WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO ???

[elfin pumice]

Do not slander my glorious groal the gay

[orchid locust]

goal the gay

[rocky jolt]

bilewater kinda easy with 2x damage ngl

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-blackbeard-writing-taking-notes-writing-gif-17583038544116987898

[untold dune]

its a canon event

[elfin pumice]

Said it first but ok

[coarse leaf]

based hunter barbed user take

[rocky jolt]

ok groal genuinely aint that hard if you just learn to use clawline

[steep jolt]

goal the gay has a immersuable amount of aura radiating from it

[elfin pumice]

Yes but, I said it first

[steep jolt]

you said groal

[silver nacelle]

It's almost as if clawline is a viable and useful offensive tool.

[elfin pumice]

Look at what I said

[untold dune]

can anyone post that groal the gay video i dont have it saved

[rancid stag]

if i die to khann that would be embarrasing am i right?

[untold dune]

eh, kinda but not really

[elfin pumice]

Just look

[rocky jolt]

but people dont realize that in their first playthroughs

[steep jolt]

you spelled it right

[coarse leaf]

nah
he does throw a bit of hands
not as much as other bosses but still

[golden lintel]

650 hp

[elfin pumice]

I know, oh-

[silver nacelle]

Which is depressing. I also didn't use at the start like an idiot.

[light swan]

witch is depressing

[untold dune]

your mom has 650hp

[elfin pumice]

Its ok we all idiot sometimes

[golden lintel]

something is veeerryyyyyyyyyy wrong

[silver nacelle]

Hunter is stressful.

[elfin pumice]

If I add wheels to a chair does that make it a wheelchair?

[silver nacelle]

[steep jolt]

i aint dealing with ts i just got the floating cape thing

[untold dune]

shaman is stressful lowkey

[coarse leaf]

embarrassingly mid

[silver nacelle]

Why?

[steep jolt]

yea

[elfin pumice]

Ok

[untold dune]

harder to heal

[rocky jolt]

is it eva

[floral veldt]

What bug is the fleas irl? :p

I know this question might confused, i tried google it and make a comparison and erm...

[light swan]

:(

[steep jolt]

guys did you know that you can kill innocent children and turn them into fuel for a -1834% profit

[untold dune]

theyre meant to be fleas just very cartoonified

[silver nacelle]

...I forget y'all actually use the bind button. I stopped using it so much I forgot about it.

[steep jolt]

maybe a flea dumbass

[untold dune]

unskill issue

[light swan]

i forget people heal

[untold dune]

youre a witch user thats your whole strat

[green valve]

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU ATTACK GROAL

[clear delta]

Like how you attack everything else

[green valve]

WITHOUT GETTING DAMAGED ITS IMPOSSIBLE

[steep jolt]

omg im so sorry i feel so bad now please accept my apology

[floral veldt]

Yeah but isn't it.....idk, i can't tell any point of it look like an irl flea, even a tiniest point

[light swan]

yea but i dont heal on other crests except beast

[steep jolt]

gun

[silver nacelle]

Have you tried using tools? Spells? Or possibly attacking him from the maggot water?

[floral veldt]

Pogo + upward attack it
Ez

[green valve]

I HAVE 0 SHARDS

[silver nacelle]

Not healing on beast just cripples the crest.

[clear delta]

This is a cockroach in hk anything can look like anything

[coarse leaf]

watch out after he spits some bombs, he hates using great inhale on the borders of the arena so he flies into you to perform it

[light swan]

im a constant aggression guy so if healing doesnt help constant agression i forget to do it

[jolly oak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/775772001964916757/1446211243961745590/togif.gif

[silver nacelle]

Then go buy some shard bundles. They sell 80 shards for 50 rosaries at bellhart.

[coarse leaf]

on the contrary, he'll fly away when he spits

[untold dune]

fuck christmas btw hannukah starts next week 🕎 🕎 🕎 🕎 🕎 🕎 🕎

[rancid stag]

khann's actually easy ngl

[torn token]

Enemy tierlist

[rancid stag]

what's after khann in the bestiary?

[coarse leaf]

he'll also stay away from the arena borders to cast vengeful spirit

[steep jolt]

fuck hannukah 2 weeks of winter vacation

[untold dune]

do you not get 2 weeks of winter vacation, sad

[steep jolt]

if there isnt meant to be bosses on it why is the moss mother on it

[silver nacelle]

I don't see any coral tower enemies.

[steep jolt]

wait hold up why is the forth chorus kinda a peak boss ngl

[torn token]

Tierlist

[untold dune]

theres technically 4 of those mfs

[torn token]

Haven't fought em

[steep jolt]

where

[silver nacelle]

Oh. Understandable.

[untold dune]

the classic, the x2 battle, and the random voided one in act 3

[torn token]

Coral tower can't be that bad right?

[rancid stag]

RED MEMORY?!

[viscid copper]

yeah those are the same exact fleas, but then again the bugs in hollow knight dont exactly look like the bugs irl

[steep jolt]

me: on act one barely beating bosses after 20 tries

[untold dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1436278301181218827/does-he-know-ezgif.com-resize.gif

[floral veldt]

Oh ok

[light swan]

where are skarr stalkers they should be S tier

[viscid copper]

its not if you ||get the shortcut|| <-- advice which will significantly help

[torn token]

Haven't fought em

[silver nacelle]

It's not bad, but I'm someone who beats Lost Lace hitless casually for fun. I do not represent common sense.

[steep jolt]

hornet does not look like a spider 😭

[untold dune]

put the lavalugs higher theyre cute :(

[viscid copper]

yup thats my point

[torn token]

No they are the spawn of Satan

[light swan]

i found them in your list theyre alright

they should be the top tier

also theyre available in act 1

[steep jolt]

i beat normal lace not fun

[untold dune]

but theyre cutie patooties

[silver nacelle]

Okeh.

[void moat]

hummmm

[torn token]

Wait what enemy? I don't think I remember their name

[untold dune]

yeah i can see it

[abstract coral]

I hope that we will get more hornet backstory in the dlcs

[viscid copper]

are grubs worms or snails or slugs?

[abstract coral]

I want to see more aspects of the pale king

[void moat]

grubs

[torn token]

Caterpillars

[silver nacelle]

They're... they're grubs.

[abstract coral]

Like we saw the white lady

[floral veldt]

Ofc, it's not EXACTLY same, but i can tell it can be SAME at some point, it doesn't have to be exactly lol

[torn token]

Oh those things

They're fun but they often overwhelm me with other enemies

[coarse leaf]

yo that's a nice stock pigeon pic

[orchid locust]

why do they genuinely have the moveset of lace 1

[green jungle]

should i 112% hk before starting silksong

[cunning geode]

so you can continue practicing before lace 2

[torn token]

The best lace

[light swan]

meh theyre funner

[silver nacelle]

Probably, because silksong will ruin all your HK instincts.

[viscid copper]

ohh yeah

[cunning geode]

might take you a while

[weary gorge]

If you're already playing it I say do it. The last part of the game is generally considered as one of the best parts by many

[floral veldt]

Fun fact: this one have same moveset as Lace

[weary gorge]

Not that the rest of the game wasn't also great lol

[viscid copper]

i mean...... maybe...?

[green jungle]

ok ty

[weary gorge]

I loved all of HK but the last few percent were great fun

[viscid copper]

yeah silksong was great but hollow knight will always have a special place in my heart and be my #1 favorite game

[light swan]

but theyre funner

[weary gorge]

I ended up liking silksong more but I think the first playthrough of HK, it was easier to soak in the world

Repeated playthroughs of Silksong are much better than of HK though

[silver nacelle]

I'd like to remind you that hollow knight and silksong are video games that don't represent reality.

I mean, I don't think I've seen moths that fire beams of light or spiders that look like human women and control silk.

[golden lintel]

i think fay is moth,similar we can see in myltiply location(just lot smaller and other look like)

[floral veldt]

And idk am i crazy or i heard it's whisper like MJ lol

[coarse leaf]

do moths have feathers though

[abstract coral]

It's moth hair

In hollow knight it's feathers tho

[floral veldt]

It's feather but very small scaled :p

[delicate matrix]

Was looking for something to put on for my child and found a cool channel named "Don't hug me .I'm scared" Its perfect 🥰

[abstract coral]

Really?

[foggy fossil]

those look like the crustnut

[gusty igloo]

needles like this wouldnt sew

[viscid copper]

honestly i dont know why everybody liked silksong more. Hollow knight had an amazing atmosphere that displayed what the game is about. Emptiness. Loneliness. And having a very huge quest on your back

The stakes on silksong felt just a bit lower (to me personally), the gameplay in silksong was more fun but the areas didnt feel as natural as hollow knight and more advanced in civilization

[viscid copper]

enter muffet

(im joking)

[silver nacelle]

Surprise Undertale.

[floral veldt]

Well think about it, if you look as human pov, it's a hair

But imagine if you're small at a size that any insect can be big as or more than you, well, probably you'll see moth hair as feathers too, just like the knight pov

[left oracle]

BYAHAHAHBAHHAHAHAHAGA

[orchid locust]

yeah cs pale king (the goat) made hallownest a beautiful prosperous developed civilization while pharloom is a broke bum ass fourth world kingdom 💔

[rancid stag]

SETH HELL YEAH

[abstract coral]

I prefer silksong 1000 times honestly, my only problem with the game is that the ost isn't as memorable and they don't use leitmotifs constantly like HK

[viscid copper]

maybe im just too attached to hollowknight but can you guys actually tell me why you love silksong so much more than hollow knight

[silver nacelle]

Trobbio's theme is memorable.

[floral veldt]

Personally for me cuz it's fun, harder and more challenging, that mean if i 100% silksong, hollow knight should be ez as cake for me, right?

[abstract coral]

I miss a motif like Sealed Vessel

[viscid copper]

not necessarily since theyre different playstyles

but to some extent i guess

[coarse leaf]

hair and feathers are structurally different, a hair is never a feather no matter your size

[orchid locust]

eh the pantheons are still harder than silksong

[silver nacelle]

The extra movement options. I feel crippled in Hollow Knight unlike Silksong.

[abstract coral]

No song in silksongs ost is better than sealed vessel for me

[light swan]

bitch crest

[floral veldt]

Erm....

[weary gorge]

I just like the gameplay more. The world I think is great too, but the crest system and all the different builds there are are just super fun for me. I love the tools too
OD Witch is crazy, Trobbio tool beast is super fun. There are lots of fun ways to play

I love the first game but after the first playthrough it's just very slow imo and there's not as much build variety, which somehow people say the opposite but crests are huge

[viscid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/lenny-confetti-stare-staring-stare-cat-cat-gif-11948536173144148473

[jolly thistle]

Sealed vessel is the best ost in both games in my opinion

[untold dune]

👁️👁️

[rancid stag]

time for grand gate seth

[abstract coral]

Yeah sealed vessel is amazing

[livid panther]

hunters march is harder than nkg

[abstract coral]

The hollow knight motif rocks

[viscid copper]

i mean, silksong ost was pretty amazing but nothing was as memorable as i'd expected

[abstract coral]

Yeah basically

[jolly thistle]

Thats just bs u didn't get used to pogoing yet

[floral veldt]

Seem ez for me

Except if you're tryna do parkour with hunter crest

[leaden delta]

pale court

[livid panther]

how do u even pogo likr the knight

[viscid copper]

i can deadass recall all hollow knight main themes but when i think about those in silksong i can barely remember like 2-3 (im good with music)

[silver nacelle]

Except Trobbio's theme.

[weary gorge]

nah hunter crest ez

[livid panther]

in sk cuz the pogo is hard to use

[viscid copper]

wanderers

crest

[iron zealot]

Silksong does not deserve GOTY

Some bosses like the First sinner are the peak of the peak

But then, there is Savage Beastfly 2, or Groal The Great which is just bad game design
I love the “we want it to be challanging” excuse, but its still bad game design

[clever abyss]

damn man deep docks has a sauna

[floral veldt]

Idk, the pogo kinda harder than other crests

[jolly thistle]

U have something called crests there is 2 that have down pogo

[livid panther]

when is act 1 supposed to start cuz i havent seen the sign

[storm oracle]

Winged Nosk makes me want to kill myself so hard omfg

[iron zealot]

Especially savage beastfly 2

[orchid locust]

i love the orchestral-ness of the silksong ost ngl i really like listening to the violins in lace and widow and cogwork dancers could genuinely be like a tchaikovsky waltz without the cogwork noises

[livid panther]

ghost yotei does

[jolly thistle]

Its more fun to use

[storm oracle]

Like. Can you not fly off-screen SO I CAN FUCKING HIT YOU???

[raw pawn]

Guys what color is the green prince?

[weary gorge]

Groal the Great was kinda shitty but Savage Beastfly is fine imo

[livid panther]

are they charms bascially

[fervent sundial]

Don’t do that, it will kill you.

Also winged nosk is lowkey easier than normal nosk, good luck

[frigid bramble]

yellow

[rancid stag]

flying offscreen does happen

[storm oracle]

Well yes, not saying he's a hard boss but holy fuck is he frustrating when flying off-screen

[abstract coral]

Nothing in silksong beats sealed vessel

[jolly thistle]

No there more like charms holder and this game doesn't have charms they r called tools

[raw pawn]

Ahh I forgot

Could you fight winged nosk outside of p5?

[keen solstice]

How is groal even bad tho?
He's fun but mediocre

[storm oracle]

Especially when my patience is already thin

[light swan]

hes not really well designed towards casuals

[livid panther]

oh

[fervent sundial]

It only stays in two spots, so you can know where it is when it happens to be offscreen

[weary gorge]

There's so much more to Silksong than just the bosses, but the bosses are generally incredible and you could easily say that it deserves GOTY or not

[fervent viper]

in hall of gods

[viscid copper]

very common "just because its annoying, its bad" slander

[weary gorge]

For me Silksong is the game of the last few years tbh

[rancid stag]

is pinterest after khann in the bestiary?

[fervent sundial]

For example, the existence of reserve bind

[weary gorge]

lol I haven't used it yet but that's funny

[raw pawn]

The 3 melodies make sure you mastered everything in silksong

Like a boss for vaultkeeper's (trobbio), a gauntlet for conductor and a parkour part for architect

[viscid copper]

i really dont think silksongs winning game of the year simply because it came out so late and people have had time to hype over expedition 33

but maybe people forgot about how good expedition is since its been a while 🤑

[jolly thistle]

Ur default crest is called hunter crest there is a crest u can get pretty early called reaper that crest have down pogo

[abstract coral]

I think silksong might win in other categories

[weary gorge]

nah E33 def takes it but Silksong won for me

[abstract coral]

But expedition 33 is the goty for sure

[fervent viper]

e33 is taking it for sure, silksong may win some other prices

[weary gorge]

I wish Silksong would win tho

[coarse leaf]

is it? am not all that into rpgs

[abstract coral]

Same

[fervent sundial]

I thought the category was for indie games. I heard that e33 is not an indie game. (E33 can defo win normal goty while sk wind indie goty)

[iron zealot]

It IS bad, its unfun, its unfair
Goes off screen so i have no fucking clue where he’ll come from, 2 contact damage doesnt make sense anywhere, even lore wise, barely scratching an enemy shouldnt be as powerful as the enemy HITTING hornet with full power,

Things like this suck the fun out of the game

[weary gorge]

Tbh I feel like Silksong was too uncompromising to beat E33. I love everything about it, but E33 has much more mass appeal imo

[abstract coral]

But expedition 33 is way more unique than silksong, so maybe it's more likely to get the prize

[keen solstice]

Uh
Groal has the LARGEST indicator in the entire game where he will pop out from again

[weary gorge]

e33 is technically an indie game

[abstract coral]

It's AA

[fervent viper]

game of the year is for any game, donkey kong bananza is in it, best indie game does have e33 but i think some people are actually voting silksong over e33 cuz they dont consider it an indie

[iron zealot]

I wasnt talking about groal

[livid panther]

ooh ok

[iron zealot]

I was talking about savage beastfly 2

[abstract coral]

A lot of games out there are AA

[weary gorge]

It doesn't have a separate publisher so it's indie by the traditional meaning, that's why it's part of the indie game vote for GOTY too

[livid panther]

ghost yotei

[keen solstice]

Beastfly is very easy to see where he is coming from tho?
Beastfly 2's only issue is the ads

[jolly thistle]

Btw what platform do u play at

[fervent sundial]

Yep

[livid panther]

switch

[jolly thistle]

Ohh cool i play in my mobile

[weary gorge]

People overexaggerate the difficulty of SB2 fr

[livid panther]

ios?

[abstract coral]

Yeah but it's still up for discussion

[viscid copper]

istg im not saying this to feed my ego but i 2nd tried it and it was so easy.... i mean all you had to do was let him eat you instead of running away then getting hits from inside

[fervent sundial]

What are y’all hyped for that isn’t hk related next year?

[jolly thistle]

Android

[fervent viper]

gta 6

[viscid copper]

what was annoying and bad design was how hard it was to get back to that fuckass place

[jolly thistle]

Absolutely nothing

[iron zealot]

SAVAGE BEASTFLY 2 can EAT ME?

[weary gorge]

I mean maybe? It's not up for discussion as far as GOTY's classification goes because they already labelled it as Indie there

[jolly thistle]

No

[livid panther]

avengers doomsday

[coarse leaf]

that I get unbanned from the rain world discord server lol

[floral veldt]

Minecraft 1.22 :p

[light swan]

https://youtu.be/1OlFwMM1RdI

this game is gonnab e much better than silksong

[abstract coral]

For me E33 feels like in between indie and AA. Regarding the GOTY that's not up to interpretation i agree

[fervent viper]

i have never seen such an obvious voting than the most anticipated game in the game awards lol

[candid kayak]

26.1 actually

[weary gorge]

I hope this happens lol

[fervent viper]

i hope it does too best indie is lowk the best prize silksong could win after goty id say

[orchid locust]

so just A

[abstract coral]

A is indie

[rancid stag]

i think i got lower than kratt in bounce on accident

[fervent viper]

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-and-einstein-luma-ai-gif-14475294631445060178

[orchid locust]

Aa

[weary gorge]

An indie game can have unlimited budget and team size, it's just about being able to pursue an uncompromised vision because the developers aren't beholden to shareholders or publishers

[upper sapphire]

You gotta be fucking kidding.

[fervent viper]

absolute genius

[hollow geyser]

I have your name in my math book

[viscid copper]

well getting nominated as game of the year with just 3 creators is still massive right (the cope begins)

[rancid stag]

i got 2

[jolly thistle]

Life is strange is an AA game e33 is only A

[upper sapphire]

…

[fervent viper]

not even cope its logical

[green valve]

FUCK CONTACT DAMAGE

[jolly thistle]

Thats cool

[viscid copper]

team cherry please release dlcs by 2026 🥺

[green valve]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT HOW IS THIS FAIR? HOW THE FUCK IS CONTACT DAMAGE FAIR??????

[jolly thistle]

Chill out what boss ur at

[floral veldt]

Hollow knight: light ball (the sun)
Silksong: silk ball

What ball are we gonna fight next?

[viscid copper]

godhome is guranteed bro no way its nott

[candid kayak]

one time I started flea bounce, did a tiny hop and the game ended

[green valve]

GROAL THE GREAT HOLY SHIT

[iron zealot]

Fr
Doesnt make sense

[upper sapphire]

Void ball.

[abstract coral]

That's why the interpretation of what is indie is kinda blur

[hybrid thistle]

Y'all thinking pharloom bay will be dlc?

[floral veldt]

Bruh

[candid kayak]

good boss

[rancid stag]

ask TC

[jolly thistle]

Go in the water in the middle he cant reach u there no matter what

[upper sapphire]

Yeah. We need more plasmium lore.

[coarse leaf]

invading the enemy's space shall NOT be tolerated under any* circumstances
exceptions being gms and fourth chorus

[viscid copper]

i promise you youre only dying cause u panic after getting hit or just in general

[rancid stag]

the gods are screaming at me i think i'll win

[candid kayak]

don't go in the water that's cowardly and stupid

[green valve]

BUT THOW THE FUCK AM I GONNA DAMAGE HIM THEN????????

[hollow geyser]

I studied alot of math i feel like my brain is just balls

[candid kayak]

press X

[green valve]

HE MOVES WEIRD AND WHEN I GET CLOSE HE GETS CLOSE TOO

[abstract coral]

From an artistic perspective yeah E33 is totally indie, but from the economic perspective not so much

[weary gorge]

You can be AAA and indie, AA and indie, or A and indie. Indie only means that you're not beholden to shareholders and publishers.

[candid kayak]

turn off caps lock

[jolly thistle]

When he finishes the attack jump and attack patience is key

[glossy star]

are they learning math here

[abstract coral]

That's what you believe, but other people, companies and me have different visions about that

[glossy star]

what are those

[jolly thistle]

Probably

[fervent sundial]

Ig

[floral veldt]

Nah, chemistry i think

[hollow geyser]

Probably

[brave salmon]

No they're dead

[candid kayak]

rosary math

[jolly thistle]

No shit

[glossy star]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[jolly thistle]

Real

[fervent sundial]

Aww they don’t even know basic math 🥹 because they are dead

[brave salmon]

They should have just not died 🙄🙄🙄

[fervent sundial]

Silk issue

[floral veldt]

Pharloom's economy: 📉

[rancid stag]

i got 39 in bounce

[jolly thistle]

Life is not fair

[rancid stag]

damn seth got 68

[abstract coral]

I got 67 bounces

[jolly thistle]

He built different

[hollow geyser]

I never tried to beat seth

[fervent sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-mental-crazy-peter-griffin-psych-ward-psych-ward-gif-611220539684378901

[hollow geyser]

But i beat it

[abstract coral]

🫃

[orchid locust]

it’s a bank, they’re abacuses (or abacus-like implements) for counting rosaries

[green valve]

aFUC(K KEFJisdyitu8cadgyiaueyiicwcewuoiceycwr9ccewf

[exotic cedar]

[green valve]

FUCKJ ?qeiri0vc'0iUISHFuyicru9'+3oepèir2xuhwipc+xi0'wohuéSI= ?OUFGPé'i9faup99i's9OUICOI=TJACNTPCJATOTNC
tjifJQERU 13CI0u 3IC232CR23

[rancid stag]

[jolly thistle]

The strategy didn't work?

[green valve]

CONTACT FUCKING DAMGE BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[floral veldt]

So this is why pharloom's economy is screwed

[fervent sundial]

I agree tbh

[hollow geyser]

I feel like a kid

[rancid stag]

me too

[green valve]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-monday-again-tweety-bird-gif-15837585695196795209

[glossy star]

OOOOOOOOHHHH that explains why its locked and why theres so many rosaries there

[exotic cedar]

Brochaco losing his sanity

[green valve]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-fun-white-cat-dance-cool-and-fun-times-gif-9760306122014173039

[jolly thistle]

@green valve chill hope off the game watch some yt and cool off when u come bag u will do it 1st try i promise

[green valve]

https://tenor.com/view/blow-kiss-emoji-kiss-gif-14779089627899078696

[hollow geyser]

Anyways i am going to sleep 💔🛌

[fervent sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/besito-catlove-gif-11397231996208728070

[abstract coral]

Silksong is gonna win the worst game of the year prize trust

[green valve]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[candid kayak]

turn off caps lock it's really fucking annoying and nobody wants to hear you rage

[weary hatch]

Trying to do groal while high is so fucked up

[orchid locust]

you can also get a tool from in there, look around for breakable walls

[jolly thistle]

Real

[green valve]

https://tenor.com/view/blessed-weekend-have-a-blessed-weekend-saturday-morning-weekend-weekend-vibes-gif-14539580313815031143

[abstract coral]

I do

[fervent sundial]

I’m scared

[glossy star]

yeah ik this is like my 6th playthrough, i just never noticed those math thingies

[green valve]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-movie-gif-14491794694627035719

[candid kayak]

gif spam

[weary hatch]

bro's a reserve bind advocate

[green valve]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hunter-hunter-crest-gif-15669412957397272868

[abstract coral]

https://tenor.com/view/tarkov-gif-7357305683300335917

[jolly thistle]

Real

[rancid stag]

rahhhh (caps lock)

[weary hatch]

thats my bae

[fervent sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-flightreacts-sus-flightreacts-denying-whoa-whoa-whoa-hey-hey-hey-gif-16828090379597963519

[abstract coral]

I asked

[orchid locust]

rahhhh (scroll lock)

[candid kayak]

it's tuesday here

[abstract coral]

I give a shit

[hollow geyser]

Thats my bed and my setup chair

[abstract coral]

I care

[fervent sundial]

It’s just a good tool

[weary hatch]

WE asked WE give a shit

[marsh spoke]

the voices won we back on p5ab

[jolly thistle]

Damn u got some good looking crib

[rancid stag]

rahhhh (number lock)

[jolly thistle]

Real

[hollow geyser]

Following my king in this room

[weary hatch]

bro's just showing the inside of his house

[hollow geyser]

Want my ip?

[jolly thistle]

Gay

[weary hatch]

nah dont need it

[fervent sundial]

Suffering from success

||Oh wait wrong rapper||

[green valve]

Hello,
Im having suicidal toughts for one specific creature living in Pharloom
His name is Groal the Great
hes really unfair
Please william pellen
Consider removing him from the game
Delete his AI
Delete his contact damage
Delete everything about him
Delete Bilewater
Delete maggot water
Delete Groal the Great

[abstract coral]

Hello

[green valve]

https://tenor.com/view/khaby-lame-mechanism-khaby-lame-all-roads-lead-to-rome-alice-in-wonderland-white-rabbit-gif-5733541022582805688

[fervent sundial]

Picassio shakespecles

[weary hatch]

this is me right now im gonna go fight ass jim instead cuz mama raised a quitter

[hollow geyser]

[abstract coral]

⏰

[hollow geyser]

I didn’t sleep yet ):

[jolly thistle]

I told u dawg just hope off cool off for a bit and come back ull 1st try the boss on god

[orchid locust]

why the fuck is bros furniture straight from the habsburg-valois 😭 😭 😭

[abstract coral]

Silksong dlc when

[rancid stag]

how much does seth have in dodge?

[hollow geyser]

Uhh 🤔

[jolly thistle]

Next 6 to 7 years

[fervent sundial]

The monkey paw curls. Groal the great is now replaced by the Mucked Beastfly

[hollow geyser]

Idk more than 3 ig

[green valve]

6 7 😂😂😂😂😂
groal i ssuch a good and fair and balanced boiss😂😂😂😂
Thank you taem cherry for making such a balnced "Final challenge"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[weary hatch]

not even team cherry knows when

[abstract coral]

Silksong dlc where we crank grand mother silk

[hollow geyser]

🫃

[jolly thistle]

Groal the cunt

[green valve]

gro al a rhe h tcgrea t 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[exotic cedar]

Just use your red tools

[keen solstice]

He's piss easy
You can easily pogo abuse him and just sharpdart him