sk-discussion

[raw pawn]

The mist wasn't hell tho

[upper sapphire]

…

[indigo eagle]

Ye playing league is my main source of burnt out

[native canyon]

so nice of tc to put a soul totem before lost kin

[exotic cedar]

Bilewater best area in the game

[raw pawn]

Actually it is possible

[austere veldt]

im going to make myself your 3rd

[shut osprey]

yeah exactly that’s why it’s better than bilewater

[orchid locust]

if this is genuinely the run istg 😭 😭 😭

[delicate matrix]

what gender are you

[simple isle]

What if in the pantheons of silksong we'd get pantheon of the beasts where we get to kill the bell eater first and then we betray bell beast and lock her in the hyperbolic time chamber, then we kill her children and the pantheon continues as normal, but the final boss is enraged bell beast and its like a super hard fight but then bell eater somehow returns and we have to team up with the bell beast one last time before we fight to the death only for hornet to wake up in her bellhome✌️🔥🔥🔥

[graceful oyster]

Lost Kin is such a good fight

[rancid stag]

true especially in act 3

[shut osprey]

ur very quirky and different is that what you want to hear

[candid kayak]

pretty sure it's hard coded to never let you reach the end without needolin

[austere veldt]

male

[native canyon]

😭

[sharp slate]

bilewater is fun and the muckmaggot status is a cool spice on difficulty, misk is just annoying af

[upper sapphire]

Bilewater would be really good if Wreath of Purity was inside it.

[barren dew]

Never write again 🥹🥹

[exotic cedar]

Can't even like shit in this server.

[shut osprey]

yup u can’t now shut up

[delicate matrix]

this is the best fucking screenshot i have can you 🔥 react me

[exotic cedar]

No

[austere veldt]

but kroal you are a giant frog so you can change your sex whenever

[shut osprey]

oh don’t then

[exotic cedar]

Getting flamed because i said i like bilewater

[simple isle]

Im writing another ass idea because of you🥹✌️

[marsh spoke]

used to bv award

[barren dew]

What are these conversations

[graceful oyster]

Palestag!!!

[rocky lotus]

He isnt a giant frog he is kroal the kreat

[native canyon]

no eyes 😒

[barren dew]

https://tenor.com/view/anothersdays-gif-8682649277694789514

[rancid stag]

what's the strat for using reaper with pimpillo, voltvessels, pollip and qsling?

[austere veldt]

print that out and put it on your wall

[native canyon]

is someone watching a video in the bg 😭

[marsh spoke]

@leaden delta HI

[leaden delta]

yo wsg

[golden pike]

I did some changes to my tier list

[rich herald]

they need youtube shorts in the background to focus

[native canyon]

BESTIE NO DON'T GET DISTRACTED

[orchid locust]

did we genuinely take a hit to say hi to sonia 😭 😭

[rancid stag]

zote in top of s tier is a w

[graceful oyster]

FREE SOUL!!!

[native canyon]

hi sonia

[rich herald]

soul tyrant phase 2 im so scared

[delicate matrix]

you asked for it

[raw pawn]

Crawfather haters don't exist actually (ignore that person that's gonna say no)

[leaden delta]

fucking tl walk lmao

[graceful oyster]

Not to TL

PHEW

[native canyon]

NOT TRAITOR LORD ANYTHING BUT TRAITYOR LORD

[orchid locust]

holy

[marsh spoke]

fuck fuck fuck ffuck fuck ffuck fuck fuck ffuck fuck

[native canyon]

oh my god that was close

[barren dew]

World is healing ❤️‍🩹

[leaden delta]

yea just be careful of walk storage. he gets that whenever he shockwaves

[sharp slate]

traitor lord walk 😭

[rich herald]

GOGOGOGOOO

[sharp slate]

fuck TL walk

[worldly valve]

my humble opinion

[rancid stag]

should i spam pimpillo or voltvessel balls at the start of bell eater?

[simple isle]

Okay so what if we have to fight that big flea at the beginning of the pantheon, and you think its cute and normal but da biggest flea genuinely dies and now all the fleas team up on you in harder versions of the flea minigames and if you win you fight vog, the hunter flea. But while you guys are fighting, the big flea returns and turns out to only have been sleeping and you and the fleas make up and now you can do the flea minigames in the pantheons

[leaden delta]

i think you can stand to spell more often

[marsh spoke]

LAG ATE ME

[rich herald]

i am on AB PV now im frightened so instead i will watch astig gameplay

[native canyon]

white defender is probably the radiant I've done the most if you count doing the boss normally hitless as radiant

[marsh spoke]

i can im just a pussyr rn

[candid kayak]

honestly? neither
save tools for the END of fights, not the start

[rich herald]

True white defender radiant without the cheese is actually pretty fun

[raw pawn]

Idk why I am having difficulty with white defender more than pure vessel

[barren dew]

We need shakespeare back 🥹🥹???

[rocky lotus]

Father of the flame would probably enjoy that

[native canyon]

both hidden dreams fights are really well done

[marsh spoke]

tl is like a place i lost my pb to so when i get hit i lose my shit and panic

[worldly valve]

exactly why he's there

[rancid stag]

does pimpillo manage to eat through bell eater's first phase?

[rich herald]

i still havent done rad gpz LMFAO

[candid kayak]

the start of a fight is generally easier than the end, and by spending all your tools at the start you're committing all your shell shards to a potentially doomed attempt

[native canyon]

THE JUGGLE

[open narwhal]

@marsh spoke

[raw pawn]

Bell eater's first phase is really short

[rich herald]

I'll lock in eventually

[candid kayak]

don't waste tools on the first phase

[native canyon]

idk how I do it lol

[rich herald]

RAHHH PUNDO ‼️

[rancid stag]

ok

[candid kayak]

btw you can attack bell eater from the side if you jump

[raw pawn]

Radiant markoth

[rich herald]

holy shit twin

[native canyon]

NOT TOP WHIT DEFENDER

[worldly valve]

fuck even like ascended markoth

[candid kayak]

hit here

[rich herald]

We just let that happen 😭

[worldly valve]

HIT THE TIP!

[rancid stag]

is 2nd phase where he extends battlefield?

[native canyon]

I'm not used to typing with this keyboard

[candid kayak]

yeah

[rancid stag]

that's what she said

[graceful oyster]

This is intense

[candid kayak]

you don't have to be directly above/below the weak points to attack them

[rich herald]

GOATED

[native canyon]

THAT WAS TOO CLOSE

[marsh spoke]

jesus christ that was my worst wd fight

[graceful oyster]

Geez

[raw pawn]

Also appearntly bell eater's butt is easier to hit than his face

[rich herald]

that was so fucking scary LMFAOOOO

[marsh spoke]

missed 3 shrieks, missed 2 of the trivialising attacks

[woven pendant]

Wth is this run back to the arena
Why, Team Cherry

[worldly valve]

i HATE you DYNO.

[green valve]

NERF PHANTOM BRO

[graceful oyster]

TYRANT MY GOAT

[native canyon]

soul tyrant time

[rancid stag]

and i fucking die

[rich herald]

hey i just beat AB soul tyrant lock in astig

[worldly valve]

brute force it brute force it brute force it

[leaden delta]

tyrant is like hidden scary on ab tbh

[green valve]

BRO HOW IS THIS FAIR BRO WHAT IS THIS COGWORK DANCER + LACE COMBINATION AHH BOSS??

[candid kayak]

ok so phase 2 starts after 200 damage is dealt, then you only have to deal about 280 more damage after that I think

[rancid stag]

i hate bell eater so much

[rancid stag]

i'm on my 7th bell eater attempt

[rich herald]

i dont have much of a problem with AB soul tyrant largely because i play like a pussy against him regardless

[worldly valve]

buff phantom actually they're nowhere near on par with last judge

[raw pawn]

Yeah ||bell beast|| does the rest if I remember

[weary gorge]

Okay but its actually so sad the nuu leaves wtf

[delicate matrix]

He is harrasing me in my dms help

[candid kayak]

hey it's not that bad
by the way do you have Wreath of Purity?

[native canyon]

I can never manage to hit tyrant during the clock attack more than once for some reason

[weary gorge]

Nobody told me

[rich herald]

i can get like 2 hits in but idk how some people are brave enough to manage 3

[graceful oyster]

I usually go for 1 hit and then get the double hitting fireball

[candid kayak]

has 800 health but apparently you only need to deal like 480 damage before bell beast finishes the fight

[worldly valve]

yes i confirm

[woven pendant]

Wreath of what?

[native canyon]

I usually go for a shriek lol

[worldly valve]

bell beast dies at like 300-280 hp

i mean eater, bell eater

[candid kayak]

blue tool, gives muckmaggot immunity

[raw pawn]

Not bell beast

[woven pendant]

No...

[rich herald]

PHASE 2 🗣️

[marsh spoke]

justgave away 4 lifeblood masks ffor fun!

[exotic cedar]

Its found in putrified ducts and can prevent you from getting maggoted

[raw pawn]

Why did you kill her

[leaden delta]

you should do more nail cancels i think

[candid kayak]

have you found Putrified Ducts?

[rich herald]

thats so generous ❤️

[graceful oyster]

5*

[leaden delta]

on tyrant phase 1

[worldly valve]

is there anyone who found the putrified ducts from bilewater

[woven pendant]

No

[raw pawn]

Someone please explain to me what a double jump cancel is

[rocky lotus]

You can use multibinder to help with maggots as well

[orchid locust]

why is astig doing so good bro i wanna sleep 🥀 🥀

[candid kayak]

have you been to the citadel's Memorium?

[rich herald]

THATS MY GOATTTTT

[marsh spoke]

probably

[worldly valve]

basically you jump, double jump down dash immediately (i think)

[native canyon]

it's a double jump cancel obv

[graceful oyster]

You cancel double jump's animation to do something else

[rich herald]

oh twin...

[woven pendant]

Only a little bit

[native canyon]

MARKIPLIER NOOOOO

[graceful oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1440257622824456222/ezgif-55aec3df1487bb62.gif

[green valve]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT BOSS BROOOOOOOOOO SHE HAS UNDODGEABLE PARRY PUNISH 2 DAMAGE ???

[leaden delta]

they

[worldly valve]

yeah that

[woven pendant]

Yeah but getting enough silk can be annoying

[raw pawn]

Thanks very helpful guy

[fervent viper]

who

[green valve]

PHANTOM

[native canyon]

OOMFIE NOOOOO

[rich herald]

NO

[worldly valve]

its kris deltarune all over again

[graceful oyster]

Markoth AGAIN

[leaden delta]

unlucky death

[orchid locust]

💔 💔 💔

[lucid trellis]

welcome to smilksmong

[rich herald]

NOT THE SHIELD DEATH BROOOOOO THATS SO ASS

[fervent viper]

just jump after u hit it

[blazing bramble]

jump

[green valve]

LAST JUDGE IS EASIER THAN PHANTOM

[rocky lotus]

Its the best you got atm

[raw pawn]

How

[candid kayak]

ok so in the bottom right room of the memorium, where the map machine is, there's a hidden hole in the ceiling which leads to a rooftops area, then you can climb the wall on the right and break open an entrance to Putrified Ducts
(that area is a nightmare btw)

[native canyon]

I usually stay on one platform for markoth and my fear has been validated

[woven pendant]

Yeah I've been using it

[marsh spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-2-cheers-happy-excited-gif-13406404385856133045

[graceful oyster]

By doing something else right after jumping

[distant topaz]

yo what's up

[rich herald]

im gonna attempt AB PV now🥀

[raw pawn]

Mkay Imma try it

[native canyon]

WE GO AGAIN LET'S MOVEEEEE

[rocky lotus]

If you dont want to suffer the groal runback you can just cheese him

[rancid stag]

in act 3 does first sinner turn into last sinner?

[candid kayak]

for the time being, know there's a huge cache of silk right before the arena

[orchid locust]

alright good night chat finally

[graceful oyster]

Yeah I try to stay on one and if he floats over then switch

[native canyon]

wait fuck something came up I can't stay

[distant topaz]

wait I need to be Christmas themed hold on

[worldly valve]

oh shit you're right i should be jolly aswell

[rancid stag]

snow

[woven pendant]

Ohhh intresting

[native canyon]

byee byee byeeeee @marsh spoke @rich herald @leaden delta

[raw pawn]

Good thing I accidentally found this

[rancid stag]

be snow instead of silk

[candid kayak]

climb into the ceiling just before you go into the arena, walk past the lore tablet and there's a large supply of silk

[rich herald]

BYEEEE

I just died to missing PV parry are we deadass 💔

[marsh spoke]

byee

[raw pawn]

Prove yourself more snow than silk

[rancid stag]

i don't need to be christmas themed

[woven pendant]

Bet

[raw pawn]

Who said you have a choice?

[rancid stag]

me

[graceful oyster]

Gonna dip stream, good luck

[candid kayak]

anyway if you can manage putrified ducts, there's a tool you can find which gives you limited immunity to muckmaggots
it's worth considering but you can manage without

[raw pawn]

Fair

[marsh spoke]

bye!!!

[distant topaz]

Ehh, I was more or so gonna look for a picture of a flower bed with white flowers instead

[raw pawn]

It's pretty good now they made its durability like 2x stronger

[candid kayak]

also when groal does the inhale attack you can throw bombs into his mouth and he'll choke lmao

[rancid stag]

flowers with snow

[marsh spoke]

what the fuck mmc

[rancid stag]

damn

[left ore]

How do I open this house (bottom of Deep Docks)

[fair gull]

silksong is pure sexism im tired of this shit

[exotic cedar]

Act 3

[candid kayak]

I don't know why they did that
it felt like it already had more than enough durability

[left ore]

Oh, alright

[cobalt pilot]

What

[rancid stag]

act 3 once you talk to ballow next to forge daughter he'll give you a key to the abyss

[lilac karma]

Im silksing my song

[rancid stag]

when you get to the bell thing

[fair gull]

HORNET GETS 2X DAMAGE BECAUSE SHES A GIRL🥀

[candid kayak]

like, I'm not against the durability increase for wreath, but I just don't think it was necessary

[fair gull]

WHY IS THIS GAME SO HARD

[cobalt pilot]

Wait a minute... 🤔

[green valve]

I JUST DIED AT PHANTOM RUNBACK dude.........

bro.

[haughty oasis]

yo quck quesh can u mod silksong or na 🤔

[lilac karma]

Girls drool im sorry bro

[woven pendant]

Actually I'm pretty sure it's because the enemies of Pharloom are stronger than those of Hallownest

[rancid stag]

isn't there a shortcut?

[candid kayak]

dodging is max priority btw

[lilac karma]

Yes

[candid kayak]

dodging is more important than attacking

[haughty oasis]

okay

[lilac karma]

Just tank the damage and kill them fast

[haughty oasis]

i got the game like 3 days ago so im warming up to everything

[fair gull]

the enemys kinda look weaker

[worldly valve]

there

[raw pawn]

Tbh I don't think anyone is dumb enough to stay in maggot water for more than 2 seconds lmao

[lilac karma]

Not recommended if the run is a steel soul run

[fair gull]

its cuz the knight is built like a tank and hornet like a stick

[woven pendant]

But the infection makes the them stupider in Hallownest

[candid kayak]

and even if you are, you can just... jump repeatedly

[woven pendant]

Yeah that too

[simple isle]

Chopped chin or property in egypt

[candid kayak]

birthplace cutscene should've said "No nose to smell..."

[woven pendant]

So Hornet is fast and more nimble making it so she doesn't need as good as a defense as she can just usually dodge everything, so she takes more damage
I saw someone say something similar to this some time ago

[candid kayak]

indeed

[fair gull]

tbh im really new at silksong i bought the game right after getting all hollow knight endings exept the godhome one i have no abilitys in silksong rn exept the needle throw thing and this game is like not as addicting that hollow knight used to be

[raw pawn]

How did you know I live in Egypt /j

[candid kayak]

hornet is so much more agile

[simple isle]

I felt like this too but after i beat the game 100% i instantly wanted to do another run

[sharp slate]

shakra v shakra in double enemies lmfao

[candid kayak]

LOL

[marsh spoke]

giving away health for free atp

[candid kayak]

infighting

[cobalt pilot]

When is this channel being archived again?

[fair gull]

the double poshanka is fire

[candid kayak]

no the other one got archived...

[rocky lotus]

You are in the beginning of course its not as fun as hk

[simple isle]

Poshanka²

[cobalt pilot]

Ur method of beating the big thing with the claws that I forgot the name of is so cool

[cobalt pilot]

Oh okay epic

[marsh spoke]

mawlek? its nothing too complex its just ddark spam

[rose forge]

Get to atleast far fields bro

[fair gull]

thats a good one

[raw pawn]

I noticed people don't argue every 5 mins anymore

Did something happen or what

[candid kayak]

y'know, because we no longer need a second sk-discussion channel for overflow, and yet we still have ten second slowmode

[rose forge]

like AT LEAST get to far fields

[weary gorge]

Im doing my final thing for completion - Seth flea games. Wish me luck guys

[fair gull]

im at the green thing the ones that you pogo off them

[green valve]

Nerf phantom holy shit most annoying boss ever

[fair gull]

and the run back is so damn BAD

[green valve]

Bro how is phantom fair if 9999% are not human comprehensible

[rose forge]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-i-break-rules-for-fun-mfs-seeing-the-mods-go-online-deadpool%26wolverine-deadpoolandwolverine-hulk-gif-547564653055894193

[candid kayak]

did you know there's a cache of silk right before you fight fourth chorus

[simple isle]

Bro what

[cobalt pilot]

Phantom my beloved

[raw pawn]

Mawlek was my first boss in the game It was hell at first

[cobalt pilot]

There's someone making a phantom skin and I'm SO excited to play it

[rose forge]

Whar

[wind adder]

gang

[cobalt pilot]

I'll even learn how to play silksong on a keyboard if it means I get to play as phantom

[rich herald]

im looking forward to that one pv skin

[fair gull]

there are some red things that you pogo of them to jump

[cobalt pilot]

Ooh

[rose forge]

oh ye, you're near

[wind adder]

just explore don't ask for help </3

[obtuse path]

Real

[cobalt pilot]

Like PV as Ghost's size?

[hot oracle]

a little confused, there isn't supposed to be a wall here normally since your supposed to be able to go through this place to acess the rest of songclave and go to bilewater, could someone tell me what needs to be done to destroy this wall?

[fair gull]

the run backs are so crazy

[marsh spoke]

sonia died 🥀

[rose forge]

It'll get addicting when you get the hover cloak

[fair gull]

dash?

[cobalt pilot]

You have to access it from the other side I believe

[rose forge]

nooe

nope, hover cloak. you'll see.

[cobalt pilot]

So do people think Xero is a moth

[short roost]

Why are the markers invisible when you put them down on the map? Is this a glitch?

[rich herald]

nah its based off hornet but looks closer to the fully grown PV we see in godhome

[fair gull]

alrr

[raw pawn]

The worst runback in the game is the runback for lace in deep docks trust

[orchid locust]

i break rule(r)s for fun

[cobalt pilot]

OOH WAIT can you send a link

[dire dome]

guys

[fair gull]

i go play

[hot oracle]

how do i get to the other side? on the place above there's the like gate thing with spikes on top prventing me from just going throug that, how do i get to the other side?

[vale whale]

what happened

[fair gull]

wanna vc tho\

[dire dome]

i just downloaded lost sinner mod but it's not spawning.

[cobalt pilot]

Watch out snowflakes... I don't play by the rules 😈

[rich herald]

Ill have to look on thunderstore cause i just got off my pc but gimme a second

[green valve]

PHANTOM HAS AIMBOT BRO

[cobalt pilot]

Give me a sec

[rose forge]

Nah bro I dont have a Mic

[hot oracle]

alright

[dire dome]

is there a mod to respawn bosses?

[green valve]

PHANTOM HAS AIMBOT
PHANTOM HAS AIMBOT
PHANTOM HAI AIMBOT

[fair gull]

oh alr

[rose forge]

just get to the Far Fields and you're set

[shut osprey]

more like bore ragnarok am i right guys

[exotic cedar]

I use the Pantheon ot Pharloom mod

[marsh spoke]

left vc

[fervent viper]

r u playing silksong before hk or smth LOOOL

[fair gull]

WE GET IT GANG (i dont even know what is it)

[raw pawn]

First time I see someone struggling with phantom

[short roost]

anyone elses markers become invisible when you place them on the map?

[delicate matrix]

winged kroal

[dire dome]

does it work with modded bosses

[rose forge]

https://tenor.com/view/war-gif-991293921595200744

[delicate matrix]

dont think so

[vale whale]

oh

this is our last intersction el jibbity your new display name wards against me

[hot oracle]

?

[exotic cedar]

I tried to fight lost sinner and it worked

[green valve]

LAST JUDGE EASIER THAN PHANTOM CONFIRMED?

AIMBOT vs JUMP AIMBOT

[blazing bramble]

moss mother has aimbot 💔

[short roost]

invisible markers fix?

[marsh spoke]

CRAWFATHER CANNOT BE THAT GOOD OOMF

[fair gull]

wth

[raw pawn]

Crawfather haters just don't know how peak he is trust

[green valve]

Whoever is making these ais i want to know WHY like this.

[rancid stag]

how many hits does it take to reach bell eater with hivesteel needle and reaper crest?

[rich herald]

https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/734 nvm not on thunderstore but check out the files attached to the upload

[fair gull]

even i with my big skill issue killed her on first try🥀

[hot oracle]

soooo

[dire dome]

itsn't he in the normal sinner place? or maybe it's cuz i already killed the first sinner?

[cobalt pilot]

Map spoilers so be aware of that but the area should be accessible from the Whispering Vaults room to the upper right

[green valve]

I SWEAR WHENEVER I TRY TO HEAL PHANTOM USES THE TP SMASH MOVE BRO?

[delicate matrix]

check dms please

[vale whale]

i am sorry el jibbity

[hot oracle]

oh alright thanks

[rich herald]

bro 💔

[exotic cedar]

Maybe because you killed first sinner. Pantheon of Pharloom respawns the bosses though

[dire dome]

alr

[raw pawn]

Crawfather haters don't exist trust

[green valve]

THESE STUPID COGFLIES ARE HITTING HER FUCKING PARRIES AND I LOSE 2 HEARTS

COGFLY F TIER RED TOOL???

[rich herald]

True actually

[cobalt pilot]

AUUWGH THATS SO COOL

[marsh spoke]

FINE. you get to interact with me. Im making an exception to oomfs

[cobalt pilot]

Phew

[simple isle]

Guys im doing a second run how do i unlock the garmond and zaza fight without having to draw a summoning circle and waiting until a random thursday at 3am and praying for luck?

[weary gorge]

40 points on flea juggle so far, this shit is rough

[marsh spoke]

Oomfs get to like Crawfather but I will judgeyou slightly

[weary gorge]

I think you have to not do 2 melodies. 2 melodies locks the fight i believe

[orchid locust]

judge? like crawfather?????? ❤️‍🩹

[noble chasm]

crawfather is so cool how could you hate him

[rich herald]

Pollip pouch son or crawfather daughter...

[shut osprey]

GARMONDDD

[blazing bramble]

i think you just have to exhaust his dialogue once you see him naturally when in the choral chambers and he'll be at his spot

correct me if im wrong tho

[waxen hemlock]

what the hell is that

[exotic cedar]

Puppy :D

[noble chasm]

Youve seen those things before its a muckroach

[open narwhal]

hkmain...

[rocky lotus]

No it is a vile demon

[green valve]

AIMBOTTER LITEARALLY
FROM THE EDGE OF THE MAPP SHE TOUCHES ME WITH HER HORNS AND I DIE LOL?
WHAT DID TEAM CHERRY MEAN BY THIS?
IS PHANTOM THE LOST GMS HEIR?

[waxen hemlock]

? no i entered this area through greymoor

[fair gull]

do we got mimics in silksong

[peak musk]

I just got Mr mushroom ending!

[rich herald]

Twin what are we doing

[noble chasm]

Then youve definitely seen those before

[simple isle]

WHY are you throwing yourself in the corner

[torn token]

Your are genuinely completing this game through sheer rage and I respect it

[rich herald]

lifeblood eater!

[vale whale]

yeah flea mimics they contort into bloody blobs

[waxen hemlock]

no i was walking through here and discovered a secret wall

[rich herald]

OH FUCK THATTTT

[simple isle]

Boii phantom is tralalero tralalaughing at you😂😂😂😂😂😂😂✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️😂😂😂

[fair gull]

thats crazy

[rich herald]

we just donated all our lifeblood for free

[exotic cedar]

Kill them

[rich herald]

thats so generous of you astig

[noble chasm]

ohhh ok
Its still a muckroach a common enemy in the area u entered

[vale whale]

boiii you are odin din din DONE against phantom🤣🤣🤣

[marsh spoke]

im so kind!

[candid kayak]

it's a shortcut

[clear delta]

Wait you can enter the styx room from greymoor the first time

[vale whale]

huh

[candid kayak]

yes, but you can't go into the rest of sinner's road FROM styx

[dire dome]

one question how do i respawn one boss with pantheon of pharloom mod?

[torn token]

I regret downloading discord

[clear delta]

Ah

[vale whale]

WHAT

[candid kayak]

the left side of styx's room is blocked from the left side

[orchid locust]

there’s a shortcut from greymoor right into styx’s room

[fair gull]

its so fire

[vale whale]

NO FUCKINGWAY

[pure nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/sonicfox-furry-gif-21537674

[torn token]

I want more crestslop immediately

[dire dome]

?*

[clear delta]

Stop it brah

[fair gull]

90 proccent of furries pmo fr

[prisma ravine]

Guys when do you think silksong dlc is coming if you had to guess realistically

[lucid trellis]

imagine not fighting last judge

[orchid locust]

yk the tall room with craws where you get the spool fragment?? very top right of that room is a breakable wall

[rich herald]

august 12th 2036

[torn token]

Either plasmium or city of steel

[waxen hemlock]

THEY ATE ME ALIVE

[simple isle]

Guys shall i make another ass pantheon idea or nah🥹✌️

[lucid trellis]

3020

[fair gull]

what kind of dlc u want

[torn token]

Guys i read the question wrong

[peak musk]

Yay!!!!

[prisma ravine]

Such a simple question and not a single direct answer

[cobalt pilot]

He killed her dead

[noble chasm]

puts herself through chinese water torture to drink water then blames people who drink water normally

[cobalt pilot]

NO THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A REPLY TO ASTIG

[simple isle]

I'd guess mid 2026

[cobalt pilot]

@marsh spoke this is what happens to us crawfather fans...

[marsh spoke]

WTF

[torn token]

Guys i feel like lace should be able to bind GMS with hornet in the weaver queen ending if u do smth with lace

[peak musk]

Now I only have 4 achievements to do.
Speedrunner
Steel soul
Steel heart
Speed completion

[light swan]

the point was that i was trolling because i’m actually the best witch crest user in this server

i liked your responses until you said it’s not for mobile bosses cuz witch is conpletely functional against mobile bosses

[cobalt pilot]

💔

[noble chasm]

Crawfather is so cool i love the craws

[cobalt pilot]

He's a really fun boss

[lucid trellis]

lace binds wirh GMS and becomes;

[peak musk]

That could be interesting, so your idea is that, by binding them in "Duo" lace and hornet would hold better the power of gms?

[cobalt pilot]

I beat him with witch crest and that was so fun

[peak musk]

That way hornet doesn't risks turning evil

[torn token]

Yeah it would make sure hornet wouldn't succumb to her instincts

[marsh spoke]

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING I'M TRYING TO DDARK

[green valve]

PHANTOM FRAUD WATCH??
HOW DID SHE LOSE?
SHE HAD:

• Arena Advantage
• Aimbot
• 0 cooldown parry
• Fog advantage
  Yet she loses. Phantom GMS heir theory is not confirmed and debunked?

[lucid trellis]

what game are you playing

[rich herald]

Hive knight really needed that lifeblood

[cobalt pilot]

What does ddark mean

[simple isle]

Bro said aimbot💔

[light swan]

this playstyle is so fun

[noble chasm]

Descending dark

[peak musk]

You shouldn't know dude, is too dark!

[cobalt pilot]

Ooohhh

[orchid locust]

@marsh spoke genuinely going to sleep for real this time it’s an hour away from sunrise bye 🥀

[light swan]

yk maybe it’ll be funner on beast crest where it’s actually strong

[lucid trellis]

The fucking reaction quick draw holy shit

[noble chasm]

Sees barbed bracelet
Im not gonna watch this actually

[marsh spoke]

goodnight cro

[brazen atlas]

I think I'm just going to stick to Wanderer's Crest because deadass every other Pogo in this game has huge amounts of lag on it 💔

[noble chasm]

Pc users

[orchid locust]

it’s more good morning atp 💀 💀

[cobalt pilot]

GOOD LUCK

[torn token]

I think people had a slight reaction to this

[rich herald]

@green valve Lock in on phantom again bro

[cobalt pilot]

Did I say something wrong

[light swan]

why not
you should be more appalled by architect crest with no red tools

[cobalt pilot]

I'm getting a donut don't die astigmatism

[torn token]

Most people who play silksong know what ddark means

[rich herald]

i got donuts too actually i should also get one

[noble chasm]

Not interested?

[cobalt pilot]

Well I didn't 💔

[light swan]

i want to use warding bell counter more but it’s just not worth it when cross stitch exists

[peak musk]

Eeeeh, is hard to say

[torn token]

Also fuck groal

[eager kraken]

omg i cant wait, thats literally one of my favorite fights

[peak musk]

For one sided cross stitch is cheaper and has damage

[brazen atlas]

Genuinely though I don't understand why Team Cherry decided to give Hornet so much lag on almost all of her pogos in this game, the whole appeal of Hollow Knight's combat is that your attacks come out almost instantly, removing that feels really clunky and makes me only want to use Wanderer's Crest, I can get used to Hunter's Crest, but I don't think I like the pogo of any other Crest in the game 💔

[peak musk]

For other side, warding bell heals and is way easier

[brazen atlas]

Cross Stitch giving i-frames makes it one of my fav Silk Skills to use

[cobalt pilot]

SHE DID UT

[peak musk]

Same but sharpdart

[sudden shard]

omg i finally beat Steel Soul Act 2, now i have to do Act 3💀

[torn token]

Another reaction snipe

[noble chasm]

"So much lag" is likw a fractipn of a second ngl its only a pain in 2 segmenys total
But otherwise. Uh. Yeah use whatev you like

[peak musk]

Prepared for it?

[brazen atlas]

A fraction of a second means a lot

[marsh spoke]

almosst eaten by the tamer

[cobalt pilot]

NIGHTMARE

[noble chasm]

It really doesnt

[brazen atlas]

Its the difference between getting hit and not, landing the pogo and not, it's just annoying

[green valve]

How do i evolve hunter crest again

[sudden shard]

No💀 that beginning gauntlet will be the end of me

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-sister-splinter-undertale-gif-4148409746725758606

[peak musk]

A fraction of a second can do 6 damage

[light swan]

warding bell and cross stitch are both the same difficulty to use for me, and i dont intend on letting my bind go through if i’m using it to parry

[soft belfry]

You should mostly be fine since you can't die in memories

[candid kayak]

eva in weavenest atla

[torn token]

Get a bunch of crest and go to eva

[green valve]

Requirement?

[brazen atlas]

Ok well you can continue to cope with your worse game whilst I enjoy Hollow Knight because genuinely this game is like a downgrade in every possible way

[peak musk]

I see

[candid kayak]

needolin

[green valve]

requirement for second evolution

[light swan]

warding bell has the advantage of being able to instantly act out of it but idk if that’s better

[torn token]

Git gud

[rocky jolt]

the main character is hotter

[noble chasm]

Missed out on 6 damage because i messed up my pogo positioning

[brazen atlas]

I've literally beat the game but sure

[candid kayak]

oh uh... you get that after the blue slot

[light swan]

cross stitch also vastly outdamages warding bell

[torn token]

In hk or sk or both?

[exotic cedar]

Bosses and combat in silksong is %100 better than hks

[rich herald]

genuinely only people i ever see complain about silksong pogoing is people who come directly after playing hollow knight

[brazen atlas]

I've done P5 in HK and I've 100% SS

[peak musk]

I think everything that does more than 0 vastly outdamages 0

[green valve]

Hop off reaper crest

[noble chasm]

OK WELL YOU CANT SAY THAT ABT THE AREA DESIGN N BACKGROUND ART COME ON .

[soft belfry]

Unlock all act 2 slots/all except hunter slots

[rocky jolt]

mfs using bell to waste all their silk and heal nothing

[weak laurel]

anytip on get thou mount fey

[noble chasm]

And the music silksong has more gems than hk imo

[brazen atlas]

Area design is interesting in Act 1, complete crap in Act 2 and good in Act 3

[light swan]

warding bell deals 30 and cross stitch deals 60

[brazen atlas]

Background Art I mean yeah it looks brilliant but so does HK

[torn token]

Have u not used any other crest for longer than an hour other than wanderer and hunter?

[green valve]

Bro i already have max slot in hunter

[marsh spoke]

did we just call citadel, mount fay, bilewater and sands of carak crap

[rich herald]

idk man we just need to be able to play silksong and hk like they're different games because they are 💔

[rocky jolt]

yall been to bilenest yet

[green valve]

?

[candid kayak]

every other crest

[peak musk]

Wait, really?

[cobalt pilot]

I LOVE MOUNT FAY RRRAAAGGGHHG

[light swan]

act 1 was boring act 2 had the best areas by far

[candid kayak]

hunter's slots actually don't count towards that...

[peak musk]

ATP, I'm considering to use warding bell over cross stitch lol

[brazen atlas]

Used reaper for a long time
Used beast in a few bossfights
Admittedly should've used Witch more
Used Architect a ton but didn't really enjoy it other than using Flintslate + Charged

[cobalt pilot]

one of my favorite areas in the game other than bilewater and Putrified ducts

[light swan]

yes, 31 and 63 to be exact i think

[candid kayak]

unlock slots on OTHER crests

[noble chasm]

the tall room next to choral chambers bellway has a very majestic backgrounf art

[brazen atlas]

Shaman ok you got me there I didn't even use it

[green valve]

Idc bro im hunter skill main

[soft belfry]

Unlock slots on other crests

It's req to evolve hunter

[weak laurel]

well i keep dying at mt fey so hard try make jump and go fast

[peak musk]

Weavelight?

[green valve]

Bro i have no good tools

[peak musk]

Do you even have 3 silkhearts?

[candid kayak]

eva's upgrades are given based on how many non-hunter crest slots you have in total

[green valve]

What is silkheart

[light swan]

there’s really no benefit of warding bell parry outside of short endlag animation

[brazen atlas]

I'm doing a 2nd playthrough because I want to see if I'll enjoy the game more now that I've beat P5

[rich herald]

twin isnt getting the vesticrest 💔

[candid kayak]

the thing from bell beast that regenerates silk

[torn token]

Have u played other games that are insanely quick while playing sk?

[noble chasm]

Id say its definitely an improvement to hollow knight

[brazen atlas]

Honestly though it still just feels clunky, like genuinely Hornet feels clunky

[rocky jolt]

bro just use wanderer crest

[candid kayak]

you know how you regenerate silk when you don't have any? that's what silk hearts do

[cunning geode]

press buttons faster 👹

[soft belfry]

Hottake hornet isn't clunky, silksong bosses are clunky

[brazen atlas]

I don't like Hornet's turning around on the ground, I don't like a lot of her pogo moves and so I just use the Wanderer's Crest because it fixes most of my problems
I don't particularly like the silk skills
I don't like how several of the bosses are just giant hitboxes like damn

[rocky jolt]

if you think her new movements feel weird and clunky theres a whole playstyle based around the old game

[noble chasm]

What feels clunky abt her. is it just the slught stop she has to do to turn around and gather momentum

[exotic cedar]

You have 2 of them

[delicate matrix]

@austere veldt

[brazen atlas]

These small things add up and can genuinely just ruin the feel of the game for me

[green valve]

Its not useful

[soft belfry]

No memory lockets 😭

[candid kayak]

it is btw

[rich herald]

holy shit we actually kept lifeblood after watcher knights

[green valve]

It does nothing

[cobalt pilot]

Idk I enjoy playing as hornet more than ghost

[candid kayak]

lets you use things like needolin and clawline

[brazen atlas]

As someone who's done most bosses in HK radiant (not all of them), I don't think I'm necessarily bad at these type of games I just don't like SS nearly as much as HK

[peak musk]

I mean, short endlaf animation is kinda why I don't use it

[soft belfry]

Go get 9 silk and heal, then stand still and see what happens

[delicate matrix]

@austere veldt

[rocky jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342912447429738619/1350608029741219880/attachment.gif

[graceful oyster]

Man I really wish SOMEONE in this Discord knew how to get me some free money...

[candid kayak]

[green valve]

Wdym 9 silk and heal

[vale whale]

not real

[lucid trellis]

rob a bank

[torn token]

Fair enough you've likely just got really used to hk and now silksong feels unresponsive, unless your genuinely lagging.

[green valve]

Bro my heal is 3

[vale whale]

try my crypto

[green valve]

Where is shakra in bilewater bruh

Shakra anything but being useful bro

[noble chasm]

I suppose its subjective but its such a minor thing that even when you take in account other details you disliked its not a big issue
if anything the fact she has to gain momentum immerses you a bit more and makes you actually consider what youre doing

[rich herald]

cyclone slashing winged nosk 😭 😭 😭 😭

[noble chasm]

The 2nd paragraph goes to your pogo attack complaimt too. just like. Position yourself well idk.

[stark prism]

i have a kinda crazy wild guess about the theming of the steel city

[graceful oyster]

STOP cycloning Winged Nosk istg

[light swan]

i wish you could fly with cyclone slash

[stark prism]

i have very little evidence but a very strange conclusion

[soft belfry]

You need a maxed starting silk bar (9 silk strands) to heal, it's ready when it glows

If ur at 0 silk, you can regen up to the number of silk hearts you have

[sharp slate]

Made back to act 3 double enemies steel soul

[rich herald]

twin forgot about her great slash 💔

[delicate matrix]

@vale whale

[peak musk]

Fun facts about silksong

The needolin we got is actually severely weaker than it was planned to be

[stark prism]

its gonna be an arabic inspired prince of persia type deal, i just know it

[rancid stag]

what should i do with the bell eater fight

[delicate matrix]

true. but it was still useless

[light swan]

god i want to run mirrors beast but i also don’t want to

[graceful oyster]

If you ask Sly politely enough (600,000 geo) he'll teach you

[stark prism]

like come on steel soul JINN? asassins

it all makes sense yous seeing what im seeing?

[soft belfry]

What does that mean

[rich herald]

Jesus christ

[cobalt pilot]

Wowie

[peak musk]

Yep, it was only going to increase the speed of singing (this one is actually useful) and the time duration (This one not that much)

[marsh spoke]

I'M TELLING YOU ITS A GENIUS STRAT

[noble chasm]

Some are genuinely really bad like i guess architect and beast crests but then just swap off of them and use something else for the platforming segment

[soft belfry]

But knight is a chunky knight, sly is lightweight

[marsh spoke]

IT HAS POTENTIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[peak musk]

But the real issue with needolin is that it doesn't do nothing, as it only stops enemies as long as you sing it doesn't guarantee hitting them

[rich herald]

Incomprehensible levels of innovation💔

[green valve]

If i have 3 silk hearts i unlock something?

[peak musk]

I think an achievement?

[light swan]

your 3rd silk heart

[rich herald]

oh twin we arent throwing to sly right...

[vale whale]

i suck at sly

[candid kayak]

have you ever used Clawline before? silk hearts are vital for it

[peak musk]

Reaper Crest needle strike should be bigger like sly's

[light swan]

@marsh spoke lock in i believe in you

[green valve]

Why do i need 3 if 2 are enough?

[vale whale]

preparemonos para paddington🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[soft belfry]

You will regen 3, and with a endgame tool, you can cast silk skill at 3, or with weavelight, you will regen 4 and be able to use the skills

[rich herald]

RUN SAVED 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[shut osprey]

how do i kill the fleas?

[exotic cedar]

The more the better

[candid kayak]

more silk regen is more convenient

[green valve]

where do i unlock third silk heart

[soft belfry]

Relatable

[exotic cedar]

Unravelled boss in the whiteward

[light swan]

whiteward boss

[soft belfry]

It's spoilers tho, are you against act 2 boss yet

[green valve]

Bro why is phantom silk skill lowk so aura it one shots everything

[peak musk]

3 silk hearts + weavelight means you will always be able to use silk skills as long as you wait for it

[blazing bramble]

yeah if you're struggling on phantom, definitely go for unravelled its a lot easier

[rich herald]

the fuckign cyclone slash on phase 2 sly im crying

[soft belfry]

It is, have you watched parry only runs

[rich herald]

JUST GREAT SLAAAASHHHHH

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/second-sentinel-ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-gif-14144986572548286793

[vale whale]

parry

[rich herald]

oh my god twin

[green valve]

bro i dont even know what i have to do now im on bilwater bellway bench and i cant progress

[brazen atlas]

Pogoing in Silksong feels terrible unless using the Wanderer's Crest, Red Tools feel like a really weird inclusion and I would much rather have 3 silk skills than ever have Red Tools at all (I dislike the system and trust me I've used just about every red tool, while they are fun, the shard system is not), Healing is very weird because it is better to wait until you've lost 3 masks and then heal rather than Heal only 1 mask, and healing uses up a very large amount of Silk, Silksong is definitely a good game but I didn't fall in love with it like I did with HK that's for sure

[marsh spoke]

LAG

[rich herald]

JOHN SILKSONG🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[green valve]

dude u must have input lag

[keen berry]

Well in bilewater there is only 1 thing to do... suffer in silence

[soft belfry]

Have you reached citadel final boss

What act are you in

[light swan]

i hate wanderer pogo it’s so fast and small there’s no room for error

[candid kayak]

did you beat phantom

[brazen atlas]

What the fuck are you talking about, respectfully

[green valve]

2 and i did first ending

[somber helm]

Explain this

[light swan]

wanderer pogo is genuinely unusable for me

[brazen atlas]

I've beat Pantheon 5 in HK and have never had issues with Knight's moveset compared to Hornet's

[peak musk]

I love reaper's crest

[keen berry]

I wanna send the video of me fighting groal for the 18392948th time but discord won't let me send a video longer than 5 freaking seconds
What do I do

[native canyon]

okay I'm back turns out what I needed to do was a lot simpler than I thought

[rich herald]

genuinely it seems like the only issue is that youre too used to HK's mechanics

[exotic cedar]

Because knights movement is really simple

[rich herald]

shades astig is on hornet 2 rn

[rancid stag]

how many hits do y'all think it takes to beat bell eater with hivesteel needle?

[peak musk]

Wanderer pogo is crazy

[somber helm]

And this

[brazen atlas]

No I think the issue is that Silksong's are just worse lol, more complex doesn't necessarily mean better

[marsh spoke]

3000 heart attacks per second

[weary gorge]

I beat Seth's juggle by one point lmao

[peak musk]

Because this game is NOT MADE for using vertical pogo

[native canyon]

that's my goat

[candid kayak]

do side quests, move the fleas to the final location, complete shakra's wish, etc.

[rancid stag]

ZOTE!!!!

[cobalt pilot]

Bro I got 90% on a project I made for fanfiction wowie

[soft belfry]

Ok the last heart is unravelled then, exploration and quest spoilers ||yk the place where you find sherma in whiteward eventually, there will be a light in the ceiling you can double jump to reach, and you can get a key to use in lower left whiteward for the final heart||

[somber helm]

Omg, finally a Zote fan

[green valve]

youre complaining a charachter thats supposed to be different is different 💔
Its genuinely a skill issue if you complain about pogoing seriously bro just find the crest that fits you more and thats it no need for all this yap 💔

[peak musk]

A lot of enemies rise up suddenly because the game never expects you to up pogo

[hollow stream]

Healing system was rebalanced since face tanking would otherwise be the most viable strategy
the red tools I take your point on

[brazen atlas]

People will be able to do Crazy things with Hornet's moveset I'm sure, but I dislike pretty much everything about her movement and I don't think it's about getting used to it I just think it sucks

[green valve]

Diagonal pogo is not THAT bad bro

[native canyon]

I was thinking I was gonna write tonight but I have 0 fucking ideas rn

[peak musk]

I only dislike float ability

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[midnight breach]

Hornets dash is the best part of the game

[brazen atlas]

idgaf about it being Diagonal, I hate the fact it has so much lag on the pogo

[somber helm]

Fucking hell

[green valve]

people who complain about diagonal pogo are the same crybabies that complain about last judge runback

[light swan]

slow combat btw

[candid kayak]

there's... no delay

[marsh spoke]

fair on red tools, fair on silk skills, pogo is 100% a matter of you not being used to it, healing is just different so its subjective

[brazen atlas]

Hunter's Crest is my 2nd fav Pogo in the game

[rich herald]

everything youre criticizing just ends up being because youre more used to HK's mechanics and thats ok

[hollow stream]

...if you hit the pogo it has 0 lag

[peak musk]

I like most of silksong stuff
But I feel like float cloak is terrible ability

[cobalt pilot]

I think float ability is really fun and satisfying before I get double jump. I love faywings though

[candid kayak]

if you've got a delay you might just have input lag like they said

[rancid stag]

btw how many hits do y'all think it takes to beat bell eater with hivesteel needle?

[green valve]

no there isnt hunter you can straight up combo with dash + pogo

[exotic cedar]

Remember, silksong is not hollow knight

[vale whale]

..so use the wanderer's crest??? every crest fits a different niche for players ESPECIALLY the pogo

[soft belfry]

May I suggest a witch crest user's inner thoughts

[rich herald]

pogo doesnt really have input delay

[brazen atlas]

There absolutely is delay, she has to downward dash before the pogo goes through, in HK if I down slash it comes out immediately as soon as I press the button, in SS she does the animation first

[candid kayak]

what crest

[native canyon]

I already have bipolar I don't need more turmoil

[weary gorge]

I mean this is basically the most subjective thing. 90% of people think her movement is great so its not just subjective but its also a minority opinion

[peak musk]

Exactly, after I get the fayforn wings I mostly don't use that ability anymore, and sometimes when I want to use it a way I could before I can't anymore and is so weird

[soft belfry]

Maybe 30-60?

[candid kayak]

what crest are you using

[hollow stream]

change the crest instead of complaining 😭

[brazen atlas]

I mean yeah, basically solves most of the problems

[vale whale]

the " downward dash " IS the pogo

[rich herald]

again this is being used to HK's mechanics more 💔

[stoic otter]

mr mushroom christmas cookie

[midnight breach]

It’s a single player game why would there be input delay

[light swan]

delay btw

[brazen atlas]

Ok it sucks

[cobalt pilot]

I'll brb vc I've got to check on a group project thing

[midnight breach]

Awesome

[candid kayak]

if it's hunter, the entire fucking downwards stab IS the pogo and has a damage hitbox for the entire fucking animation

[weary gorge]

Certified skill issue

[brazen atlas]

Certified preference

[light swan]

😭

[keen night]

hell yeah

[native canyon]

group projects 😒

[brazen atlas]

I'm allowed to not like something

[open harbor]

being in prison in silksong hit different

[vale whale]

thats your opinion but for someone else it could be good to attack while in the air from a distance

[hollow stream]

Change the crest then
It's almost like they designed the crest system for people like you who need a niche

[candid kayak]

hunter crest pogo has no delay

[light swan]

this is fair if you know that it’s your opinion then i completely agree with you

[green valve]

Can i get max number of masks in act 2?

[peak musk]

???? Wtf are you using

[rich herald]

because some people have shitty keyboards not really that crazy to understand even if the effect is almost negligible

[arctic pilot]

No thought head empty

My oc

[midnight breach]

Playing silksong in prison hits different

[weary gorge]

No, saying it sucks isnt a preference. Saying I dont like something is, which you've done both

[marsh spoke]

the wanderers pogo is the easiest to get used to but i think if you ahvent at least TRIED to put some time into witch pogo and hunter pogo its quite silly to say that all the pogos are terrible

[light swan]

pogo

[brazen atlas]

The Crest system is good and bad I think I do like the idea of it but I dislike the execution

[hollow stream]

not liking something does NOT mean you can call it bad game design
One is subjective one is objective

[native canyon]

WHO JUST JOINED VC

[peak musk]

That doesn't look like normal Pogo's I have seen, why is reaper's pogo so fast?

[keen night]

just 4 completed masks

[marsh spoke]

Also i'm deafening fuck this

[rich herald]

WHO THE FUCK IS THE BACKROOMS ENTITY

[midnight breach]

Skarr skirt

[brazen atlas]

I mean I can just say it sucks, you don't have to agree

[hollow stream]

No

[light swan]

it’s the normal pogo

[native canyon]

FAIR THAT'S ANNOYING AS SHIT

[rich herald]

LMFAOOOOOO NOOOOOOO

[candid kayak]

max is 9 masks in act 2, then you can get 4 more shards for a tenth mask in act 3

[open harbor]

wait what?

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-14514797702729285380

[stoic otter]

im silking my song in vc 8

[brazen atlas]

The main thing I dislike about a lot of the pogos comes down to the fact Hornet has to go through with an animation first before the swing comes out, meaning you have to pre-emptively do it, ofc it depends on the Crest (this doesn't apply to Wanderer's)

[native canyon]

oh of course they leave right as I deafen

[open harbor]

this chat is crazy I have to leave

[green valve]

i only have 6 rn

[candid kayak]

yikes

[marsh spoke]

I blame this fucking lost kin fight on that guy

[hollow stream]

There's a difference between saying it sucks because of a reasoned argument and "it sucks because I don't like it"

[brazen atlas]

I actually think Hunter's is one of the easier ones to get used to

[native canyon]

welcome back sea rose

[rich herald]

clean lost kin kill

[brazen atlas]

It sucks because I don't like it

[light swan]

whats wrong with preemptively activating it

[keen night]

man thats some flexing right there and I'm still struggling on flea jump with shamans

[hollow stream]

my mistake, that's understandable

[brazen atlas]

I don't like it

[exotic cedar]

Reaper is also good if you are struggling with shaman

[rich herald]

unironically locking in to watch AB no eyes

[keen night]

im saying that for me shaman is the best one, but even with that one im getting my ass kicked my fleas

[peak musk]

I would love is someone added a lost kin skin to silksong

[brazen atlas]

Also I don't like Faydown Cloak and the Drifter Cloak being the same button meaning you have to double jump if you want to glide, I mean look I know there's not much else they could've done as it probably would've been clunky to have 2 seperate buttons but honestly I think Drifter's Cloak would've been better off not even in the game at all

Probably just personal preference again

[light swan]

alr

[rich herald]

TRUEnvm cyclone slash on no eyes im out

[hollow stream]

Drifter's cloak makes platforming WAY more forgiving, if you didn't get drifter's guarantee you even more people would be unhappy about difficulty

[native canyon]

astig loves cyclone slash huh

[rocky lotus]

I disagree I think drifters cloak is a great addition

[rich herald]

you shouldve seen her winged nosk fight this time around 💔

[rocky lotus]

I just like being able to spam it so I can descend safer

[marsh spoke]

FUCK

[native canyon]

TO TRAITOR LORD?!

[cobalt pilot]

NOOO

[rich herald]

TO TRAITOR LORD

[vale whale]

hunter's ' animation ' is the pogo
reaper has a VERY short animation + the slash is huge
beast's ' animation ' is the pogo
witch has no animation
architect kinda has one (the charge) bit its somewhat quick and you get rewarded for charging with extra damage
shaman has no animation the beam comes out immediately

[regal isle]

drifters is required for many areas, and its a nice lil thing (mary poppins hornet)

[brazen atlas]

Sure I get that

[leaden delta]

did he wlak into you

[rich herald]

ARE WE DEADASSSS 💔 💔 💔

[marsh spoke]

traitor lord makes me unironically lose my shit

[light swan]

RIPP

[candid kayak]

you used to activate drifter's cloak instead of faydown if you held the down direction when you pressed the jump button in the air but they removed it (it was pretty annoying ngl)

[cobalt pilot]

Fucking hate that guy

[brazen atlas]

no

[rancid stag]

WOOOOOOOO BELL BEAST

[marsh spoke]

ok thats the last attempt for today guys ❤️

[vale whale]

wdym no you have to elaborate

[native canyon]

I was about to say "I'm gonna chill until astig dies" because I thought she'd get further

[exotic cedar]

Mato's proudest student

[rich herald]

NOOOOOO

[native canyon]

oh ok lol

[cobalt pilot]

Fair enough

[native canyon]

made it past collector twice, that's impressive

[leaden delta]

i could stream coral tower abilityless

[keen night]

hot take: i dislike faydown cloak
they should have just sticked with drifters, because that would have made silksong a little bit more unique

[marsh spoke]

no i panicked panic healed messed up and then died

[brazen atlas]

Hunter's diagonal descent, if it were the pogo, then Hornet would attack the moment she reaches contact with an enemy
Instead, she can start diagonally descending and just get hit and do nothing, it's annoying

[cobalt pilot]

I have to go do schoolwork anyway but I'll probably come in several times for "short" breaks

[rancid stag]

FYM SPEAK WITH BELL BEAST?

[brazen atlas]

One or the other imo

[candid kayak]

bell beast begins speaking fluent english

[hollow stream]

That's because you're not pogoing the top of the enemy, you're trying to pogo the sides
That's not how pogo is designed

[native canyon]

sounds hellish, I'd join but I'm gonna stare at a blank page for a few hours lol

[brazen atlas]

I think one of my most frustrating gripes is when I react with a pogo and instead I get hit mid-animation, at that point I might as well play safe like a bitch and never try to go for any interesting movements and then that leads to more boring gameplay

[rancid stag]

damn that song lowk sucked

[vale whale]

pogos dont encompass the area aorund you they only hit the area youre aiming at, for hunter that's where hornet is dashing to
if youre getting hit during it youre getting hit from the sides

[rich herald]

taking meds to fend off a migraine but if it goes away ill watch

[light swan]

you could also activate it earlier and get used to the delay

[marsh spoke]

traitor lord is like my bane. normally this fight is really really easy but on ab i just panic because i know he does double damage and no eyes usually eats all my hp

[rancid stag]

also since when did bell beast have kids

[brazen atlas]

I mean I just really don't enjoy that but whatever

[cursive torrent]

eira...

[candid kayak]

since now

[sharp slate]

im so pissed, i failed this double enemy arena last time and this time i did it fucking hitless

[native canyon]

hope you feel better soon

[brazen atlas]

"just use Wanderer's", sure, fixes most of my problems anyway so I will

[vale whale]

but you said they all have animations, they do ot excepr from reaper

[marsh spoke]

get well soon that sounds awful

[candid kayak]

and now you can use them to fast travel back to the bell beast from almost anywhere

[cursive torrent]

why no overdose

[hollow stream]

use clawline then, they made a whole ass ability for what you're complaining about

[brazen atlas]

Hunter, Beast, Architect and Reaper all do

[rich herald]

used to them atp as a chronic migraine haver but ty lots

[sharp slate]

extra health is better as a buffer imo tan overdose

[candid kayak]

doctor told them not to

[rancid stag]

what did he have kids with though that's the question?

[hollow stream]

Hunter and beast have literally near instant startup

[safe solar]

collecting organs in act 3...

[candid kayak]

(she)
we don't know

[stoic otter]

which better

[peak musk]

You guys know what would be funny?

[native canyon]

I doubt I'm gonna log back on before I fall asleep so GOOD NIGHT CHAT LOOK AT THIS ENBY

[brazen atlas]

Beast is especially annoying to use because she can easily get hit when using it

[vale whale]

i literallybjust explained to you why hunter doesnt + neither does beast and the architect one is intentional because architect has a dogshit melee buuld

[sharp slate]

i aint using long claw XD

[marsh spoke]

gn!!!

[peak musk]

Bounce fleas with architect crest

[light swan]

beast takes 16 frames to start up

[cursive torrent]

enby jumpscare

[split cape]

Bro what the fuck happened

[brazen atlas]

I just use Architect's charged slash anyway

[rocky lotus]

She prefers the way hk did it, you arent going to change her mind

[graceful oyster]

There's no way

[rancid stag]

is bell eater male bc i have a prediction?

[candid kayak]

about a quarter of a second, yes?

[marsh spoke]

anyway guys what are we waffling about i wanna join in the fighting

[cursive torrent]

i wish woman were real

[exotic cedar]

Pogos, i think

[hollow stream]

then she can use wanderer since that's designed for her

[light swan]

idk maybe

[brazen atlas]

literally this, Silksong you feel way less in control of the character than in HK, its way clunkier and that's not a good feeling at all

[stoic otter]

women arent real

[hollow stream]

Bell beast is a mother and hornet calls her they a few times

[vale whale]

someone is proclaiming all crests except wanderer have an animation

[brazen atlas]

deadass just forced to play Wanderer's crest but that leaves me with only 1 Silk Skill slot and then I'm forced to play with Red Tools which is another bad system

[arctic pilot]

Sign a petition to turn her into a emoji

[rancid stag]

i said bell eater not beast

[marsh spoke]

yeah but theyre really small so it doesnt matter on anything except architect

[cursive torrent]

is ts mottled

[vale whale]

what is that

[candid kayak]

bell eater probably wasn't the father

[rocky lotus]

I disagree but to each their own

[arctic pilot]

Yes

[brazen atlas]

oh also the needle upgrades in this game are incredibly poorly executed

[vale whale]

barely any of them do

[graceful oyster]

Get that mixed-shell outta here mottled aint welcome

[weary gorge]

Why even play the game at this point lmao

[fervent viper]

bell eater is obviously the bell beasts predator

[rocky lotus]

The dash in hk feels bad after playing silksong

[rancid stag]

he might've we just don't know bc of the gender

[cursive torrent]

ips mottled is enby but ok

[brazen atlas]

sometimes your needle upgrade changes almost nothing

[marsh spoke]

I think saying "you need to pre time it" on Not Architect is a crazy fucking take because you Literally dont

[hollow stream]

It's almost like it's made to be customizable

[arctic pilot]

No thought head empty

[hollow stream]

Sorry I'm being stupid today

[rancid stag]

are predators usually male or what?

[brazen atlas]

idk, thought I'd give it another go with a 2nd playthrough but a lot of my issues persist

[normal token]

I think the opposite, drifter's cloak is a great addition but I don't think a djump is needed and esp with how oversaturated the move is

[candid kayak]

[hollow stream]

Also the fuck are you talking about

[brazen atlas]

imo its one or the other, I'd be fine with Drifter's Cloak if they didn't have the double jump probably

[vale whale]

no it probably doesnt care about gender since it is a vicious centipede metal eater

[leaden delta]

ok nice i finished my gameplay part of the map i just need to add springtrap 9/11 and ice cubes

[weary gorge]

Sounds like you hate the game, id just not play tbh. You dislike basically everything that most consider as being the parts that make the game enjoyable

[arctic pilot]

But he have thought head not empty

[marsh spoke]

SPRINGTRAP WHAT

[brazen atlas]

Damage Calc in this game is so dumb because all enemies have a hidden defense multiplier and so some interactions don't change at all with upgrades

[light swan]

i find silksong to be way more responsive and fast especially with animation cancels and stuff being very nice in the game

should i master doing this fast

[rich herald]

What kind of map are we even making anymore 💔

[brazen atlas]

Just thought I'd voice my complaints I also want to see other opinions to get a better understanding of why people like the game so much

[candid kayak]

the humble husk sentry gaining 3 health when you upgrade your nail:

[vale whale]

that's early game bosses and a few enemies

[rocky lotus]

Yeah the animation cancels are why I prefer silksong movement

[brazen atlas]

I'm still happy Team Cherry is supported by my purchase and I'd never even dream of refunding the game

and I am glad I've beat this game 100%, doesn't feel like wasted time at all

[candid kayak]

a lot of bosses in hollow knight have different HP values depending on your nail level

[brazen atlas]

but HK I've played through over and over again and I love it every single time, this game I can't say the same for, honestly I just think the Red Tool system is the biggest problem, I could forgive everything else

[light swan]

to answer the last part, its generally just that people get used to the delay and learn to work with it

[marsh spoke]

the pogo complaint is just really fucking weird. i didnt see your other takes so idk

[light swan]

youre by no means forced to use red tools at all tho

[peak musk]

The red tool system is indeed problematic

[hollow stream]

The red tool is VASTLY more customizable than HK

[brazen atlas]

yeah but that's fine, bosses I'm OK with, its regular enemies I think that shouldn't be getting buffed when I get buffed

[peak musk]

Indeed, it isn't perfect, but is better

[lofty shell]

umm
literally almost every crest has only one silk skill except for one which doesn't even have silk skills and one which has 3
how is red tools a bad system lmao

[vale whale]

red tools are cool they replace the 3 spells

[weary gorge]

I love the red tools. Straight pin and pimpillo are the goats

[rancid stag]

if bell eater was male that could mean he was protecting the bell beast when giving birth (am i right team cherry)

[candid kayak]

fuck this guy

[peak musk]

Which is the reason I feel people hating on red tools are dumbasses

[rich herald]

silk skills:

[brazen atlas]

And they suck other than Flintslate, Flea Brew, maybe Tacks (they're funny)
don't say Cogflies are well designed btw cuz they're just blatantly OP

[sharp slate]

Quick question have you guys considered making hornets head into a plate because i have

[pure nebula]

The only time I enjoyed the double jump was in the platforming section to the surface. Besides that, I think the double jump doesn't add much to the platforming experience of SK and at times, hinders it since you're forced to do it to activate the drift.

[brazen atlas]

I actually just wondered what other people think and want to get other perspectives

[marsh spoke]

I get it if it was architect or even reaper but hunter crest delay is like barely anything unless youre like starting from the max height of the pogo

[lofty shell]

skill issue?

[brazen atlas]

are you deadass saying skill issue

[rich herald]

curvesickle?? conchcutter???

[rancid stag]

silk issue?

[brazen atlas]

like fuck me that's miserable 💔

[hollow stream]

"the red tools suck"
"the red tools are blatantly OP"
Do you hear yourself?

[light swan]

every time i ask them whats wrong with getting used to the delay they dont respond 💔

[brazen atlas]

sorry I want my upgrade to feel like an upgrade

[candid kayak]

y'know I never really noticed...

[rich herald]

sting shards??? wtf are we doing 💔

[lofty shell]

i am being fr lmao
regular enemies aren't a threat at all

[sharp slate]

is it actually alot of bosses? dream warriors, watcher knights, grimm, collector?

[vale whale]

its kind killed her kind fuck no

[weary gorge]

Thats fine, thats not really related to what hes saying. He's just saying perspectives or not its probably just not for you

[light swan]

suck as in are bad but not the strength kind

[leaden delta]

these two statements can coexist?????

[sharp slate]

i might be forgetting some tbh

[lofty shell]

what upgrade

[candid kayak]

there's a good number of them at least

[brazen atlas]

???
Cogflies are blatantly OP, several tools feel like better versions of other tools, and most importantly, Shards

[split cape]

STOP FEEDING THEM

[rancid stag]

just say silk issue this is a silksong channel afterall

[candid kayak]

the trick is to not tool spam ever

[woeful gale]

I tried gliding in NKG 😭

[brazen atlas]

its guaranteed damage for pressing a button, I think they are very powerful in the sense that you don't need a brain to use them

[hollow stream]

the red tools are customizable and there's always one that fits the situation, compare that to hk

[sharp slate]

eh maybe like 25% ish a decent number, people abuse mechanic to kill dream warriors early with spells on replays, other bosses i feel its not noticable toooo much

[exotic cedar]

You have to use your red tools wisely

[brazen atlas]

its why I banned using them because I just think they're too strong but maybe its just me

[marsh spoke]

cogflies is unironically the least op of the op tools but yeah tools in this game can get way too op. i think more tools would benefit from being mid straight pin TIER I think straight pins are the best designed tool in the game

[fiery burrow]

I'm curious as to which tools you consider to be straight up upgrades

[vale whale]

cogflies are designed as consistent damage output for people like you who can't be bothered to actually integrate risky but rewarding reds into their kit

[brazen atlas]

I think it'd be better if you could use them more freely so you can experiment more without having to farm