sk-discussion

[proper scroll]

How good is flint slate? Like dmg increases? Cause I have it but haven’t used

[icy crow]

In the end we cannot escape Miss Meta

[radiant dagger]

50% damage increase on your needle for the duration

[peak musk]

The mini versions of the crawler that guards wormways

[proper scroll]

So like 10 extra dmg? - not bad ngl

[radiant dagger]

Flintslate is very good on crests without an attack speed penalty

[icy crow]

Act three exclusive I suppose? Unless you're talking about the little fuckers that jumps you out of nowhere

[royal mason]

Wanderer

[vagrant cave]

for thanksgiving i will ask for a second suggestion of who to draw from hk or sk today

[radiant dagger]

Yes, it's best on Wanderer due to Wanderer having the fastest attack speed in the game

[royal mason]

Why is this enemy horrible and why is it Grand Reed?

[shell gale]

the knight trying to cut up a turkey

[royal mason]

Hornet shaws the turkey

[vagrant cave]

just a character please

[icy crow]

I like how people theorycraft really fast in Silksong and Hollow Knight but sometime after hearing the same meta becomes boring

[fading trail]

Nah, they show up in act 2 after you kill the big guy

[keen solstice]

Meanwhile pollip pouch being locked behind a gathering quest while being one of if not the worst blue tool in the game:
Oh well it's required to get witch crest anyways

[icy crow]

What big guy lol

[royal mason]

Lugoli will bring the cake

[radiant dagger]

??? what

[shell gale]

tuk

[shell gale]

pie

[keen solstice]

And no it deala damage based on how many of its spikes hit the enemy pretty sure

[royal mason]

Pollip Pouch is good bro

[visual mason]

how to beat ||gurr the outcast||

[royal mason]

Gurr The Outcast?

[radiant dagger]

Pollip Pouch is one of the best blue tools in the game what is bro talking about 😭

[visual mason]

yea

[royal mason]

Lugoli will bring that too 😏

[vivid knot]

Ok so does anybody think that there will be a hidden boss a la oro mato and sheo in the silksong pantheon?

[keen solstice]

3 dmg for 2 ticks that do not stack and are removed and reapplied on every single tool hit while nerfing flintslate and plasmium.
Pollip is garbage

[clear delta]

Pollip pouch is like it only does jack if you bring out your tools one by one
Since it doesn't stack

[radiant dagger]

like yes there are better options for general use but if you're focusing on red tool use the only thing that's better than it is Quick Sling

[shell gale]

me just getting the joke, fuck you

[icy crow]

Pinstress and Seamstress would be interesting to fight together

[royal mason]

U just now got it?

[vivid knot]

mmm i see a lot of people saying that one tbh

[vagrant cave]

steel soul or normal?

[wet yoke]

How hard is it to stupidly softlock Silksong?

[royal mason]

It's good for mobs fights

[shell gale]

normal

[icy crow]

Near impossible unless you've really fucked up lol

[radiant dagger]

yeah it's not good for self-buffing tools because it's meant to be used on offensive projectiles

[royal mason]

Pollip Pouch is NOT garbage 🥀

[vivid knot]

ooh i had a cool idea for a tag team fight

[shell gale]

you have to try

[vivid knot]

Splinter sister is a really weak boss right

[shell gale]

and even then its pretty hard to do

[clear delta]

I feel like a seamstress fight would be like sheo where she attacks you literally by sewing and stuff somehow

[keen solstice]

And it's garbage for offensive projectiles as well
Making it basically completely useless aside from just painting your tools purple.

[royal mason]

Voltvyrm:

[icy crow]

She does put up a good fight at least

[vagrant cave]

lame but i guess its fine 😔

[royal mason]

Bro hates Pollip Pouch that badly 💀

[keen solstice]

Because pollip pouch is that bad

[royal mason]

It's not that bad u just suck with it

[leaden delta]

I like purple

[keen solstice]

It's that bad no matter what you try to do with it, lmao.

[shell gale]

well i did say tuk not tuk corpse

[vivid knot]

But she's a Sister, and as such, would have some sort of kin. My idea is a tag team between Splinter Sister and some other sister. why? it'd be cool.

[leaden delta]

the only time pouch is good is if you only occasionally hit the guy with a poison tick

[royal mason]

Pollip is good for mobs cuz u can damage them over time while focusing on other enemies

[icy crow]

Ah yes another day arguing about Silksong tools and their specific efficiency

[vagrant cave]

[leaden delta]

With a tool specifically that is not flintslate

[keen solstice]

6 damage is literally nothing my guy

[hidden owl]

I tried to duel Shakra and she fucking owned me man

[clear delta]

Ascended sister splinter spawns unbreakable vines and two of every splinter enemy at once

[keen solstice]

Just equip wispfire if you want something to kill ads
Atleast wispfire does something unlike pollip

[hidden owl]

Teleports behind you. It was so fast it barely felt like a fight

[royal mason]

Yk what I'm not gonna hear ur useless rant about a good tool bye

[keen solstice]

Not my fault you refuse to listen to logic

[clear delta]

Is this guy even reading the messages

[radiant dagger]

same

[keen solstice]

He's probably just ragebaiting

[vivid knot]

maybe Splinter Sister and something like Scalding Sister that's based on the marrow or smthn?

[hidden owl]

Uhhhhhhh did I come in at a bad time

[wet yoke]

Yeah, thought so

[leaden delta]

I mean realistically what is it better than

[royal mason]

Deals double damage

[keen solstice]

Not really
Just some guy refusing to believe pollip pouch is anything but garbage lol

[royal mason]

How

[vivid knot]

Im gonna hold your hand when i say this

[icy crow]

Pollip Pouch's damage becomes pretty much useless once you have like Sharpened+ Needle, unless there are tools with good syngeries with it

[royal mason]

Believing Pollip Pouch is good = ragebait? Wtf

[hidden owl]

…I use pollip pouch regularly

[keen solstice]

Multiple people literally explained to you how pollip is bad yet you refused to listen at all

[hidden owl]

Yeah I’m taking your side here it’s good

[keen solstice]

Do you know how it works?

[primal sky]

Big thank yooouuu!

[hidden owl]

Yes. It adds a debuff with poison damage for a few seconds

[radiant dagger]

there are tools that work with it very well

[leaden delta]

like spool extender, the grubsong equivalent, magma bell, I think the crystal one but I need to know the damage specifics, I would say snitch pick, I can see the argument for longclaw possibly for most crests

hold on I made a tierlist lemme find it

[proper scroll]

Np 😎

[keen solstice]

It deals 3 damage
For 2 ticks
That's basically 6 dmg
But it doesn't stack
And literally every new tool hit removes the poison effect and reapplies it, effectively wasting any and all ticks

[radiant dagger]

easiest ones I can think of are Threefold Pin and Sting Shard off the top of my head

[proper scroll]

Update- still trying to beat that mf bug 😭

[keen solstice]

While nerfing flintslate and plasmium
Pollip is a contender for being one of the worst blue tools in the game

[vivid knot]

oh shit it just reapplies?

[plush dome]

Does anyone know where to find shakra after finding her master

[keen solstice]

Yea
Hold on a sec lemme find a gif to show you

[radiant dagger]

you can find her ring outside Bellhart into Greymoore

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-silksong-skong-gif-9056276688868888316

[proper scroll]

I wish 😭

[plush dome]

I tried but the ring wasn't there

[keen solstice]

When pollip poison ticks
It causes a pink cloud explosion
Right?

[leaden delta]

found it
I’d move pouch down a tier but to the very left of the tier, though I can’t remember if I ordered tiers to begin

[hidden owl]

Anyway. I don’t care about the actual numbers, I don’t look at this shit. I’m not a powergamer

I’m here for the storyline. I usually play RPGs

[rancid stag]

magnetite dice just saved me from death

[radiant dagger]

sawtooth circlet truther

[vivid knot]

i mean i kinda see it but not that well considering. the fucking cascade

[proper scroll]

Poison is top tier

[royal mason]

It's the best yellow tool

[coarse leaf]

SILKSONG

[clear delta]

Why specifically spool extender at the bottom

[leaden delta]

nowhere near

[rancid stag]

i know

[keen solstice]

There is no pink cloud
It's only the purple cloud that happens when you apply poison to the enemy

[limber swallow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0jnfFoyk9ko?si=SRPhc25gnQLsZYot 🥀

[vivid knot]

Also flealia egg is too high imo i really don't see what everyone else is

[proper scroll]

It let me beat lance stage 2 without using the needle 👀

[fading trail]

Poison probably has the biggest gap between what it actually does and what people intuitively think it should do in the game

[coarse leaf]

shakra

[vivid knot]

Oh. yikes.

[royal mason]

Sorry I committed a sin by liking Pollip Pouch

[keen solstice]

Snitch pick buffs clawline, wispfire lantern does like 21 dmg per fire
And magma bell is like wreath of purity

[leaden delta]

i made 5 tiers and didnt think to cut down on them. i think realistically this list is done in 4 actually

[coarse leaf]

i just got skong 3 hours ago

[keen solstice]

Yea, it's that bad

[analog edge]

Flealia is like actual ass what

[leaden delta]

oh i wasnt actually aware it did nail dmg

[royal mason]

Ig I should die now

[limber swallow]

Is this for any specific Crest or just in general? If the latter, Lantern and Druid’s Eye is too low.

[leaden delta]

i still think its pretty mid ultimately, but it could be worse

[fading trail]

Just don't get hit bro lmao

[analog edge]

Weave light does everything it does better

[radiant dagger]

trueeeeeeeeeeeeee

[left oracle]

i love spool extender

[vivid knot]

it's not horrible if you aren't dealing constant damage and hit them with like. 1 attack before backing away but as you get into the higher amounts of tool uses per fight it starts to get outclassed?

[royal mason]

Don't get hit, use Shaman Crest and Volt Infilmant, and u can spam skills like spear

[leaden delta]

i did a general list
i dont see weavelight's major uses for most crests, tbh. you're usually better off equipping other shit, and druid's eye is there for the same reason i think grubsong is a low tier charm

[analog edge]

That shit is not worth a whole tool slot

[keen solstice]

It works if you hit the enemy once with a tool every like 3-5 seconds

[vivid knot]

Weavelight is fun as hell in certain builds for exploration because you can just stay back and cast spells

[hidden owl]

Oops! All Bilewater

[analog edge]

Weave light let's you Regen 4 silk really fast, so you can use silk skills with not external silk gain like flealia, except it's faster snd doesn't need full hp

[analog edge]

And it also helps a bit for bind since it regens more

[hidden owl]

I have found a second Bilewater entrance from the citadel

[limber swallow]

It’s primarily for instant clawline, which can be very beneficial. Also I said lantern, not Weavelight, which pairs well with Hunter. Druid’s Eye synergizes well with Beast due to taking damage being actively beneficial

[vivid knot]

weavelight always gives you enough silk to use a skill and it's very funny to stand back and silkspear anything that comes in your way*

*no guarantees that the silkspear will do much damage.

[leaden delta]

additionally for snitch pick, iirc the added damage is only around 6? which i dont find very valuable, especially with the opportunity cost

[analog edge]

Can you not go into rage with full hp or smth?

[limber swallow]

It should be 1.5x needle hit

[limber swallow]

You can, but for each mask you heal, time is added to the fury

[leaden delta]

ohhh u meant wispfire lantern

[vivid knot]

Oh yeah btw uh how much damage does the witch crest heal do per hit?

[leaden delta]

i think it's meh? maybe im underrating it though because i know generally how bad it is from hk

i cant see it going above longclaw methinks

[limber swallow]

Yes, it pairs well with Hunter due to the excess Silk you would have while using the Focus

[keen solstice]

21 per hit

[limber swallow]

Oh uh Wispfire Lantern does decent damage actually is the thing

[leaden delta]

but nail dmg is nice

[keen solstice]

63 normal full hit
84 multibinder

[vivid knot]

Wow ok holy shit that's pretty nice

[limber swallow]

Yeah Witch is badass, hard to use tho

[royal mason]

Witch is amazing crest

[keen solstice]

Can go up to 150 ish with claw mirrors

[leaden delta]

what's the dps on lantern

[vivid knot]

Witch is my favorite forever i think

[limber swallow]

Druids Eyes do admittedly have a niche use case but it goes crazy on Beast

[royal mason]

17 DMG with max crafting kits

[shell gale]

alright, what bosses did everyone struggle most on in their first playthrough??

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/sk-skong-silk-song-silksong-gif-5179514145072108667

[limber swallow]

17 per at max tool

[vivid knot]

Other than beastfly?

[leaden delta]

that's actually not that bad

[limber swallow]

So a passive… 4 dps increase?

[dense berry]

maybe the real path of pain was the enemies we made along the way

[royal mason]

Why tf did they do Bilewater before First Dinner

[vivid knot]

FIRST DINNER

[limber swallow]

Yeah it’s solid, though very bad on Shaman where the Silk per damage is better used on Silk Skills

[keen solstice]

I'd rather use injector over druids eyes for beast tbh

[limber swallow]

HELL no

[leaden delta]

esp since it's nail dmg, for certain things like arenas the additional chip can help cross dmg barriers

[limber swallow]

It alr only has a 1 second bind, the shortest in the game

[keen solstice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/1437522190441517096/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_3.mp4?ex=69138c5e&is=69123ade&hm=1ac4aa3e37b189f18952b50fd98ba9a13c2ff631c03544af0973fc0fd67c93be&

[limber swallow]

You don’t need it lower

[keen solstice]

near instant better

[royal mason]

Druid's Eyes are better for beast mains

[limber swallow]

Now where is all that Silk coming from

[keen solstice]

Even in bosses you always get enough silk

[royal mason]

Silk Hearts + Weavelight

[left oracle]

unfortunately i usually am not being attacksd by 300 citadel member

[limber swallow]

Oh

[keen solstice]

https://youtu.be/TQ_rh0kFqK4?si=eRuSuc-rCtZHxgqo

[vivid knot]

BITE AND RIP AND CLAW AND RIP AND BITE AND BITE AND BITE

[limber swallow]

So you genuinely get Silk so fast it can’t load it one at a time

Anyways, I think 2/3 of a second over 1 second is… eh

[royal mason]

Game can't handle that speed cuz it was never intended

[keen solstice]

It's like 1/3 of a second actually

[limber swallow]

Like I get it but I would prefer Longclaw or Druid’s

[keen solstice]

Takes the same amount of time as a single needle attack

[limber swallow]

Says 2/3 for me on the wiki

[keen solstice]

Letting you bind while still in iframes after getting hitlol

[primal sky]

If only I remembered that before fighting her 🥲

[proper scroll]

HOLY SHIT I BEAT HIM!!! I FOUND AN ARCHITECT CHEESE

[primal sky]

Niiice! What'd you do?

[keen solstice]

Thankfully beast is only allowed to run a single blue

Otherwise it would literally be yet another architect

[proper scroll]

Lemme send vid - but conch flys then those exploding needles then dodging and chipping away at hp w norm knives 🔪

[limber swallow]

I think Flintslate, Fleabrew, Weighted Belt, Dice, and Druid’s Eye (or even Longclaw) would be my Beast build

[left oracle]

beast crest glaze competition

[primal sky]

Which is better
Beast or Witch?
Since both have a similar shtick

[shell gale]

hot take from me, beastfly 1 was one of the easiest bosses in the game

[left oracle]

witch

[keen solstice]

Not even glazing
There's a bunch of blue tools that synergize extremely well with beast

[left oracle]

it doesnt matter abyways

[limber swallow]

Eesh, that’s hard

[left oracle]

since everyone has a different play style

[primal sky]

I personally prefer Witch

[leaden delta]

beast

[shell gale]

beast

[keen solstice]

Performance wise beast, witch is very close interms of performance while being alot more flashy tho

[limber swallow]

Witch can go crazy

[keen solstice]

Witch also focuses on combos
Beast just runs over the enemy

[leaden delta]

i wouldnt say theyre that close performance wise but yea witch is flashier

[royal mason]

Witch against Lost Lace

[left oracle]

architect against lost lace

[grizzled turtle]

lost grand reeds look so cool

[limber swallow]

Witch is rlly high damage tbf

[primal sky]

Witch trivialized Coral Tower for me after several attempts lol
Its swings take getying used to but it's worth it

[limber swallow]

150 per heal

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[shell gale]

i used hunter but to get used to the boss i used reaper

[light swan]

182 with skill btw

[primal sky]

Literally with the mirrors tho lol

[vivid knot]

I love doing normal damage with a normal crest and normal activities

[grizzled turtle]

what the fuck

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/sk-skong-silk-song-silksong-gif-5179514145072108667

[limber swallow]

Also, Weighted Belt acts like Steady Body with Witch

[primal sky]

Wtf is even happening in this gif WHAT

[grizzled turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-skong-gif-16335370890033522618

[light swan]

i’m just speedkilling them :d

[grizzled turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-silksong-skong-gif-9056276688868888316

[left oracle]

cant arctitects crest do this amount of damage but more anyways?

[naive jasper]

i am crust king khanns #1 husband

[peak musk]

I think you can get them from act 1 you just need to kill the crawler guardian but it's annoying to fight to and it has a lot of health

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-skong-silk-song-silksong-gif-4842792387470849374

[limber swallow]

Yeah but architect is mega lame

[left oracle]

not to me

[grizzled turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-3134327606096542884

[light swan]

yes

[limber swallow]

Oh boy I can’t wait to go into this boss and not interact at all

[left oracle]

its cool and not just because of the gurren lagen drill

[grizzled turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-sk-skong-silksong-gif-10584794009593226309

[primal sky]

I'm gon a need a slow motion version to even see what's happening damn

[left oracle]

its kinda lile summoner in terraria

[proper scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-walk-away-tiger-gif-13828540

[peak musk]

Pale nails down and thread storm up feels so weird

[limber swallow]

I’m sorry but if you use archi you are NOT interacting with the boss 🙏

[left oracle]

i still want one of these for reaper that accurately glazes it
with that crest discourse would finally be defeated

[proper scroll]

I’ll cheese 😎- I always find a way

[rocky jolt]

i use sharpdart in down and pale nails in up

[grizzled turtle]

I think I saw one once

[peak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-reaper-crest-gif-17966729165143027625

[grizzled turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-reaper-crest-gif-17966729165143027625

[limber swallow]

Does that even exist

[left oracle]

doesnt really show off the main gimmick… which is the orbs…

[limber swallow]

The orbs are not that good tbf

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-silksong-hk-hollow-gif-1049229918317041007

[proper scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-knight-silksong-twelfth-architect-twelfth-architect-silksong-silksong-gif-10579502151981663665

[limber swallow]

It still has lower silk collection than other crests

[peak musk]

Lol

[left oracle]

99% circlet 1% dash attack lmao

[grizzled turtle]

holy

[left oracle]

oh my heavens

[grizzled turtle]

someone make this into a gif with "average reaper crest user" at the top

[light swan]

no its 50% pogo

only reaper pogo can do that

[left oracle]

5% dash attack 45% pogo and 55% circlet

[light swan]

effectively at least, it’s the best at it

[limber swallow]

Reaper still kinda mid tbh

[peak musk]

I'd say
33% pogo
33% circlet
33% clawline
1% dash attack

[left oracle]

yes we oughta turn this one into a gif

[light swan]

1% clawline 1% dash attack 49% pogo 49% circlet

[left oracle]

but…. could we add the orbs potentially

[rocky jolt]

''reaper pogo is too slow''

[left oracle]

iirc pogo makes like 3 orbs

[primal sky]

So
It seems like you're combining downward slashes with regular slashes and Clawlines to reduce your slash cooldowns and beat the everloving dung out of this unsuspecting grand reed

[left oracle]

how are you not double jumping tho

[light swan]

no regular slashes at all

[limber swallow]

Reaper is still mid tho

[light swan]

double clicking jump, float cancels double jump

[limber swallow]

Like yeah funny circlet shenanigans but it isn’t great

[peak musk]

So, who's hungry?

[primal sky]

HOW ARE YOU SLASHING SO RAPIDLY THEN

[left oracle]

i see.

reaper users need to use circlet to make up for the bad attack speed but it has a specialty

im going to try this

[limber swallow]

Like, Reaper kinda does just not do anything that other Crests don’t have an edge on it over

[peak musk]

Like witch circlet combos

[limber swallow]

It really needs a Needle hit buff

[left oracle]

after all youve seen..

[earnest drift]

does anyone use circlet with hunter and if so can you tell me how good the dps is

[peak musk]

Anyway, who's hungry?

[keen solstice]

Witch: very cool combos utilizing dash attack, pogo and sawtooth

Beast:

[grizzled birch]

Guys is this concerning?

[peak musk]

What's that?

[grizzled birch]

Its hornets needle i think

[peak musk]

Witch and Reaper
beast and Wanderer

[light swan]

dash attack cancelled by clawline
double jump sawtooth circlet out of clawline
sawtooth circlet cancelled by pogo
pogo is cancelled by clawline
dash out of clawline
dash is cancelled by sawtooth circlet + pogo
one more sawtooth circlet pogo finishes them off

[limber swallow]

Like I get it but it is B tier where the others are at least A

[left oracle]

”how can i make this about beast crest”

[limber swallow]

Like it isn’t bad but it is still B tier

[light swan]

so do witch users

[earnest drift]

does anyone use circlet with hunter

[keen solstice]

Take a truck running over something and not stopping

Now swap the truck with beast

[light swan]

why the negativity tho let’s talk about where reaper shines rather than where reaper falls

[left oracle]

im gonna try reaper circlet

[primal sky]

Holy shit
I'd def get a hand spasm even just attempting the first three parts

[limber swallow]

I’m being realistic here

[light swan]

my point still stands

[limber swallow]

Witch has the same issue but is covered by bind

[low pagoda]

it's a singleplayer game

[limber swallow]

I mean I just don’t feel like pretending every crest is like, A tier here

[low pagoda]

though I suppose I would enjoy a reaper buff

[earnest drift]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/1p49mvb/holy_ive_been_sleeping_on_sawtooth_circlet/
ths is probably more dps than witch + circlet right

[limber swallow]

Balance is still a core part of single player games

[keen solstice]

Uh
Witch doesn't have an issue tho
Unless you're using normal attacks which... You're not really supposed to

[left oracle]

im gonna do the like reaper circlet tech with a bind

[primal sky]

It helped me learn Karmalita's patterns before I was confident enough to use Wanderer

[peak musk]

Reaper pogo actually helps to keep the height with circlet

[light swan]

lots of things are faster

[limber swallow]

You are supposed to use normal attacks with Witch tho???

[keen solstice]

No, lol

[light swan]

who tf does that

[limber swallow]

That’s how you fucking get Silk

The thing you need to Bind

[keen solstice]

Dash attack generates 2 silk and deals 2x needle dmg

[light swan]

i’ve literally invented the meta game for witch no one does that

[limber swallow]

Dash attack is part of the normal moveset

[primal sky]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-suspicious-puppet-gif-2729624127692369191

[peak musk]

Hornet x Pablo

[keen solstice]

Not really no
When we say normal attacks we mean the basic needle attacks

[limber swallow]

Not normal attacks are like, clawline or sawtooth

[light swan]

meh i dont consider those the same

[limber swallow]

Ehhh they’re part of the base moveset

[light swan]

but no one does like normal horizontal attacks and up attacks

only dash attacks and pogos

[limber swallow]

Yeah fair but like, that’s playing 100% optimally

[keen solstice]

^
It's either dash attack or sawtooth pogo

[peak musk]

Finally, time to go for my last journal entry, wish me luck

[limber swallow]

Either way, don’t see why that is relevant to what I was saying.

[primal sky]

Here, a clover for luck

[limber swallow]

Like I do get trying to stay on the positive side of things but Reaper is def B tier

[light swan]

but what’s the point of talking about that

[limber swallow]

Because balance is a fun thing to talk about!

[light swan]

not really

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-gif-18731459

[lofty shell]

its kind of a crutch tho
you can get it early on
and its not a hard crest to use too

[light swan]

especially if we’re dissing on things

[keen solstice]

Average witch gameplay

[limber swallow]

I’m not dissing on it

[light swan]

feels like it

[peak musk]

I got it ... My hunter's journal is complete

[keen solstice]

Vs

[limber swallow]

I like Reaper, I wish it had some kind of niche it filled the way other Crests do

But as is, Reaper sadly doesn’t live up to that, and I wish it did

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/zoh-shia-mh-wilds-monster-hunter-wilds-monster-hunter-gif-17911984389344255049

[peak musk]

I think reaper just needs to make it's bond more easy to take use of

[elfin jay]

Hello. Is there a fall stagger cancel in silksong?

[limber swallow]

I think more Silk from bind would help a lot

[lofty shell]

what game is that

[elfin jay]

like menu cancel in hollow knight

[keen solstice]

Monster hunter wilds

[peak musk]

Either by eliminating the mechanic of silk orbs bouncing away from your needle hits.
Or by adding another effect to the bind, like extra speed in attacks

[light swan]

i think reaper is perfect as is

[peak musk]

Or by making the bind effect resist 2 attacks like beast bind

[limber swallow]

I think just the former works good, alongside more silk from orbs

[light swan]

only slight changes would be fine

[limber swallow]

I don’t agree there

[primal sky]

If you could add 1 more crest to the game, what would it be called and what would it do

[peak musk]

Weaver's crest
2 silk skills, 1 red tool

[limber swallow]

Though you are looking at this through the lens of someone who is playing the game optimally, whereas we are looking thru the lens of playing it normally

[peak musk]

I can't think about the rest though

[light swan]

no im looking at it through the lens of playing normally and reaper is perfect

[limber swallow]

Ehhhhh

[light swan]

it’s only optimally when it falls off

[visual mason]

how good is delvers drill

[limber swallow]

Far from it, both in Silk production and DPS it is severely lacking

[limber swallow]

Pretty good, I thinks

[light swan]

which only mayters when playing well

for a casual play through its fun and consistent and safe and perfect

[limber swallow]

When playing like, marginally well?

[light swan]

when trying to optimize things thats when bad silk gain mayters

[left oracle]

what inputs do you have to do?

[limber swallow]

Like, if you wanna beat the game 100% you’re gonna notice that kinda stuff

[peak musk]

Time to visit nuu hor her memento

[light swan]

which message are you replying to i cant click on it

[bright umbra]

I think most reaper users are attracted towards the range it has and how easy it is to use, the moveset is pretty basic and the pogo is really good

[left oracle]

the one with the crazy reaper tech

[light swan]

exactly

[limber swallow]

The only benefit is really ease of use

[light swan]

good for casuals

[primal sky]

Having an auto combo like that is a cool idea
Plus, a pinmaster crest is very fitting with the abundance of adept pin wielders

[rocky jolt]

reaper carried me in stupid bossfights like tormented trobbio and karmellita

[limber swallow]

And they’ll eventually move on from it

Reaper shouldn’t be worse than base Hunter though

[low pond]

where’s Ass Jim crest

[left oracle]

ts guy is tone deaf

[rocky jolt]

bro wants to do an ass slam on the enemies

[left oracle]

we spent 10 minutes glazing reaper 🙄

[limber swallow]

Indeed you did

[light swan]

pogo double click jump repeat

[low pond]

it’s indeed powerful

[blazing storm]

Crest discussion again 🥀

[limber swallow]

Though honestly, if you’re aiming for beating Lost Lace, you’re not really a casual anymore

And you probably should be good enough to stop using Reaper

[left oracle]

mk ill try at like .33 speed

[rocky jolt]

its always crest this reaper that beast this witch that can we talk about something interesting like trobbio

[left oracle]

no cause trobbio sucks fucking butt

[limber swallow]

TROBBIO 🗣️

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-mewing-funny-guy-gif-8482638276406987451

[visual mason]

how do u beat lost garmond

[blazing storm]

Reach lost lace is not that hard

[light swan]

it’s not like reaper is a liability it’s still perfectly usable it’s just outclassed

[limber swallow]

Not being a casual isn’t either

[rocky jolt]

kill Zaza

[peak musk]

Maybe what reaper need Is not a rework, but an obtainable upgrade

[bright umbra]

Hit a few times, run away, rinse and repeat

[primal sky]

Lugoli refuses to hand over the pickled muckmaggot so Hornet binds them

[limber swallow]

Exactly, B tier

[barren dew]

Hello sk discussion

[limber swallow]

Hello there

[left oracle]

thats crazyyyyyyy

[barren dew]

Waves

[rocky jolt]

she becomes one with the muckmaggot

[primal sky]

Their projectile attack can't shoot behind them, jump over Garmond when he does it
I defeated him with Witch crest

[blazing storm]

I have a friend who plays casually and I think he's on act 3 rn, and he's casual

[trim thorn]

island boy

[bright umbra]

What's a casual?

[limber swallow]

Honestly smth that isn’t super well defined atp

[trim thorn]

do i kill the island boy

[rocky jolt]

crests pull bugs under their thrall till ages pass and kingdoms fall

[primal sky]

You bound the Crest of the Chef
Attack with your posterior,
And drain silk over time from your enemies.

[blazing storm]

I'm guessing someone who only plays from time to time, not 4 hours every day like me 😎

[left oracle]

hmmmmm..... i wonder how it would do with bind?

[trim thorn]

to late

[buoyant urchin]

...okay lost lace has inserted something in me that made me beat P5 somehow

Lost lace wtf did you do to me...I beat you one round

Then I beat radiance twice in a row and second try in the pantheon-?

[left oracle]

i got 2 binds

[blazing storm]

I was going to try p5 but it is so boring, I don't think I'll ever do it

[visual mason]

oh thx

[barren dew]

Thank you sherma

[bright umbra]

Sometimes I hop back on hk after silksong and I'm shocked at how easy it is

[buoyant urchin]

The first half is boring

But reaching the end its ridiculously fun

[trim thorn]

fleatopia has lost one flea

[buoyant urchin]

Anyways who is the most person who kiled me?

[blazing storm]

Everything before markoth is boring to me, except by a few bosses

[light swan]

yea but it’s not like something players are forced to hop off when they get far in

[buoyant urchin]

...fucking markoth

[barren dew]

Thank god

[trim thorn]

didnt say it was kratt

[buoyant urchin]

Oh yea I forgot I talked to this dude-

[rocky jolt]

sometimes i replay hk back from silksong and die to gorb somehow

[barren dew]

NOOOO

[limber swallow]

Yes, but when a Crest does as well as others for casuals, doesn’t for people into the game, and doesn’t for experts, that’s B tier

[trim thorn]

i mean it was kratt but

[primal sky]

You're refunded a small portion of silk for every nearby enemy covered in maggots when you bind, but it gets rid of their maggots.

Maggot covered enemies can't use silk attacks, and critical damage is negated once.

[limber swallow]

Like it isn’t a bad Crest but it is lower than the others

[barren dew]

He is a weirdo he gotta go

[analog edge]

4 hours? you're a casual, try 8

[blazing storm]

I played yesterday and pv beat my ass lmao, after 3 tries I did a no hit tho

[light swan]

but saying like “And you probably should be good enough to stop using Reaper” makes it sound like youre shitting on it and it’s like D tier

[trim thorn]

the dash attack for the crest of the chef IS a dropkick

[crisp heron]

what happens if you reach mr mushroom by slashing ip and pogoing off kratt in act 2

[trim thorn]

nah you cant flick kratt up there...

i think???

[limber swallow]

I mean, atp you’re just misinterpreting what I’m saying, which is fine, but it’s not what I’m trying to get across

[analog edge]

you cant pogo off him midair

[crisp heron]

ive tried and gotten like pretty close im 95% someone with more skill than i could

[primal sky]

It combos into a dive that pierces through enemies into an evasive roll when it hits the floor

[analog edge]

i know because i tried doing the same thing lol

[opaque geyser]

am i goated or am i goated

[crisp heron]

ive done it several times when trying to reach mr mushroom myself

[blazing storm]

That time every day is not casual, I play more some days if I have the free time to do it

[light swan]

yea i get what you mean but the way you say it makes it sound completely different

[analog edge]

the fuck i just go through him

[limber swallow]

Fair nuff

[light swan]

like “stop using reaper it sucks”

[crisp heron]

i used hunter if that means anything

everyone stop using reaper it sucks

[analog edge]

me too

[peak musk]

Only two more mementos

[analog edge]

fr i never understood whjy people like it so much

like sure its a bit longer but god it's so fucking slow

[trim thorn]

nope you CANT send kratt up there you cant pogop and hit him up for some reason

[light swan]

some people have tastes

[limber swallow]

Though I personally will badmouth Architect because I don’t like it from a game design standpoint

[blazing storm]

I tried it like yesterday, and it was fun

[limber swallow]

It feels very anti-interaction-y

[analog edge]

i hate everyone who doesnt use hunter

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hunter-crest-jjk-gif-441192226714479761

[analog edge]

my goat

laughs in 50% damage boost

[trim thorn]

if you see my charts i think youll notice that i find everyones crest choices pretty rad :)

[limber swallow]

You specifically have to use Hunter with Sting Shard and either Thread Storm or Silk Spear so you can be exactly like Hornet from the first game

[pallid grove]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hornet-shaw-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-13205433055363544945

[bright umbra]

Hunter crest my goat

[analog edge]

i do use sting shard and i use cross stitch which also works since she parries too in kingdoms edge

[light swan]

me too but i like it’s pogo and move set so im not as bad with it

i’m a wanderer badmoutherw

[bright umbra]

Why r her head toothpicks so much taller in this pic

[limber swallow]

Wanderer is… ok? It’s just basic as hell tbh

[peak musk]

Can you consume silk hearts when you don't have a coccoon?

[trim thorn]

yuh

[peak musk]

I feel it has the Same issues as architect ngl

[limber swallow]

You mean Silk Eatees

[burnt elk]

How

[pallid grove]

idk

[analog edge]

from above duh

[bright umbra]

Wanderer's range is just too short for me

[primal sky]

Honestly, if I had to seriously add another crest
I'd go with a "Crest of the Performer" or something because of how many singers and dancers there are

[light swan]

exactly

[limber swallow]

Wanderer just doesn’t rlly have any specific build that benefits it, it’s an all rounder

[burnt elk]

How do I get there dawg

[peak musk]

Interesting, so you can technically eat them during a fight to insta heal

[analog edge]

just explore my guy

[primal sky]

And because I love performer-fighters

[trim thorn]

whispering vaults my friend :) youll get there try to find a way into whispering vaults from the underworks ❤️

[analog edge]

look at your map

[burnt elk]

I've tried

[analog edge]

you mean to tell me you've never gone to the left of the cogwork dancers

[trim thorn]

im love maxing

[lime lotus]

guys I just went to bone bottom after starting act 3…

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-lean-lean-machine-generator-the-hollow-knight-gif-24953738

[trim thorn]

rip btw

[analog edge]

what is bro saying

[lime lotus]

I was NOT ready for this :(((

[proper scroll]

How do I hold more than 20 shard bundles worth of shards at a time?

[lime lotus]

you dont

[trim thorn]

thats how i got the pale oil?

[primal sky]

Only thing I can really think of is silk regen items to get crit potential back faster + Dice for higher crit chance

[rocky jolt]

dont worry

[fading trail]

Go to the first flea hideout

[analog edge]

if its any consolation, go to the marrow where the flea caravan used to be

[trim thorn]

its the easiest pale oil to get imo

[lime lotus]

YAY

[analog edge]

that's a different one bro

[proper scroll]

There isn’t a way to expand inventory? Or buy larger shard bundles?

[trim thorn]

whargh???????????????

[analog edge]

oh wai

[lime lotus]

yeah but it’s just more shards in inventory

[trim thorn]

idiot dumb dumb stupid

[lime lotus]

tIts like tool pouches or smth

[analog edge]

fuck lmfao i thought it was the great taste of pharloom my bad im stupid

[trim thorn]

im sorry that was really uncalled for :(

[proper scroll]

Yeah I need that

[analog edge]

its fine

i just saw the lever on top and immediately assumed it was the gtop one for some reason

[queen bolt]

i did not care. for sawtooth circlet

[left oracle]

what?

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/agenda-witch-crest-average-witch-crest-user-silksong-silkpost-gif-487930681628415259

[trim thorn]

when i fought father of flame it grilled him alive

[queen bolt]

did not care for it

[lime lotus]

one at snitch in blasted steps, one at forge daughter, one at songclave I thing, one with the 12th architect, and there’s a blue tool in steel soul that does the same thing where dead bug purse is.

[light swan]

what the fuck is this ????

[left oracle]

illusion send the sawtooth circlet video

[analog edge]

anyways you dont need to get to the lower section, just entering from cogwork core is fine

[light swan]

which one

[left oracle]

to this plebian

[proper scroll]

Presh

[analog edge]

lower section only has sacred cylinder and cog iirc heart

[left oracle]

whats the best one you have

[final socket]

Is there no bench in Verdania??? 😭

[trim thorn]

i always did it that way to get the archetects melody WITH it

[light swan]

idk

[weak laurel]

why is there no easy mode in this game

[queen bolt]

personally arti jump -> bomb -> spear is the best combo lowk...

[left oracle]

send the reaper one

[proper scroll]

Architect

[weak laurel]

im stuck on mist or last jugde

damn spirt

[analog edge]

i mean you have to go through the higher section of vaults anyway to beat trobbio so you can get melody, the pale oil is literally above trobbio, so you can get that, upgrade the needle and then fight trobbio

[queen bolt]

slop

[trim thorn]

erm actually its because its orignally a dlc for hollowknight before it grew to big, also kindly get gud this game gets so much harder i believe in you

[leaden delta]

update the clip!!!!

[queen bolt]

toolslop fans after i play the game

[peak musk]

Yes
No

[queen bolt]

crestslop

[analog edge]

bro how many shards do you need

[weak laurel]

i havent even finish hollow knight and i want break my control so much

[light swan]

animation cancelling slop

[queen bolt]

crestsloppp

[trim thorn]

"crestslop" go outside, touch grass, reconnect with old friends, meet new people, go find a new place to hangout and then come back ot me

[weak laurel]

how u have so much life

[trim thorn]

he eats his veggies

[analog edge]

guys crestslop is real, the only good way to play the game is naked hornet

[keen prism]

hk and silksong are for people with problems or masochists bro😭

[queen bolt]

ragebait

[analog edge]

shut up you casual

[crisp heron]

people be calling facts ragebait nowadays

[weak laurel]

im just stuck i cant go any new place bc i done everything i can do

[trim thorn]

guys we should joybait :) ill go first, i hope youre having a good day today

[queen bolt]

thanks crestslopper

[analog edge]

is hunter evolution crestslop?

[queen bolt]

i love using my tool and crest slops

[analog edge]

it has 50% damage boost

[light swan]

bind slop

[trim thorn]

i shall watch as you flounder on the dirt like the insignificant maggot you are, and i will relish every moment i see you suffer

[keen prism]

groal the great is a better character overall than sherma

[analog edge]

true

[weak laurel]

god damn spirt keep kill me in mist

[trim thorn]

okay thats your opinion :)

[analog edge]

cant argue with that tbh

[queen bolt]

uuughhh sloptooth circlte sucks

[analog edge]

what do you think about hunter crest

[light swan]

is it cuz it’s weak or not fun or slop

[trim thorn]

do you want extra slop with your slop

[keen prism]

🙂 sherma is prime slop

[queen bolt]

anyhting but base hunter is bad game design

[trim thorn]

im the best slop there is :)\

[analog edge]

i will strangle you with my bare feet

[candid loom]

wait last judge's death deals 3 masks? thought it was insta kill

[keen prism]

is progressing past moss mother bad game design ?

[trim thorn]

new threat unlocked

[queen bolt]

crestslop, toolslop, its all the same

[analog edge]

it might as well be because it's multiple 3 mask explosions

[trim thorn]

cmon eat your daily slop you slop fan cmon

[analog edge]

hunter ev3 + barbed bracelet

[keen prism]

sherma crest is pure slop you sing your enemies to death

[analog edge]

my goat

[trim thorn]

have we lost the plot?

[keen prism]

idk bro maybe

[analog edge]

btw we should ban sherma he said the nword

[trim thorn]

what

[keen prism]

what

[analog edge]

sherma says the nword if you hit the door in the marrow

[queen bolt]

beast crest is op

[keen prism]

thought it was crestslop

[primal sky]

You can't just drop a singing crest idea and then call it slop in the same sentence

[trim thorn]

nah its crestslop

[queen bolt]

no no its good because I like it.

[keen prism]

it would be the cheese of doom and despair

[light swan]

3 masks yes

[trim thorn]

no its crestslop because you have to just spam hit its slop

[royal mason]

Least attractive Silksong character?

[analog edge]

your mom

[keen prism]

you

[royal mason]

...

[trim thorn]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm i think its kratt i hate his lil stach

[plucky stag]

groal

[primal sky]

That gluttonous monster that ate the green jello

[royal mason]

https://tenor.com/view/papas-got-a-brand-new-stache-dr-ivo-robotnik-jim-carey-sonic-the-hedgehog2-i-got-a-new-mustache-gif-24204679

[trim thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/die-spongebob-meme-gif-754776035690869996

[royal mason]

Groal?

[royal mason]

Mitemother?

[trim thorn]

no the misstress in the taste of pharloom quest thingy

[analog edge]

top 3 most attractive
3. kratt
2. gourmand

1. ass jim

[primal sky]

Taste of Pharloom quest
The monster that guy feeds it to

[keen prism]

@royal mason I’m disgusted by your overall lack of Invincibleness, Fearlessness, Sensualness, Mysteriousness, Enchanting, Vigorousness, Diligentness, Overwhelmingness, Gorgeousness, Passionateness, Terrifying, Beautifulness, Powerfulness and the fact that your not a grey prince

[analog edge]

the fuck i wrote 3 2 1 why does it say 3 4 5

[royal mason]

Ur calling a perv attractive 💀 🙏

[lofty shell]

where is groal

[trim thorn]

you aint gray prince either we the same

[keen prism]

.

[analog edge]

4

[royal mason]

least attractive is Kratt

Most attractive is Shakra or Karmelita

[analog edge]

i will take no kratt slander

[lofty shell]

most attractive is voltvyrm

[left oracle]

add hermit in 4

[keen prism]

map mommy top 1 frfr

[royal mason]

Ew

[analog edge]

what hermit

[primal sky]

Crest of the Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, and Powerful

[royal mason]

Bell prob

[royal mason]

Gives no tool slots

[proper scroll]

LOTS

[analog edge]

gargant gloom has a lot of...
my lawyer has advised me not to finish this joke

[proper scroll]

How?

[royal mason]

What joke? I don't get it

[proper scroll]

Same

[keen prism]

and anything and everything in your path dies in a Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, and Powerful aura

[analog edge]

dont worry about it

[primal sky]

Wield your needle like a dipshit by the eye,
And crush your foes under grace and might.

[proper scroll]

Wait how do you expand inventory?

[royal mason]

and ur needle breaks too

[wraith dragon]

fitness and grace

[analog edge]

you mean crests?

[proper scroll]

Nah like - so I can hold more shards

[analog edge]

tool pouches

that only increases shards tho, not shard bundles

[proper scroll]

How do you get more bundles?

[analog edge]

max is 20

no way around it

[keen prism]

Pharloom doesn’t have enough buzz saws for my liking what was grandmother silk doing with her life

[dense berry]

IM ALMOST DONE WITH POP JUST GOTTA DO THE LAST ROOM THEN THE DUDES

[analog edge]

gl

[primal sky]

Nah, it's just encased in silk to make it a blunt weapon lol
That's prob how Zote would use it

[analog edge]

https://youtu.be/zburi-5vSDM not my best run

[plucky stag]

in my opinion i feel this should have been in the actual game (with hindsight of course), but if and only if they put a bench right before pure vessel

[analog edge]

pure vessel being there makes so much sense

hes guarding his memory instead of some rqandom ass kingsmoulds

not sure why i struggled so much in the 2nd room here

[torn herald]

Crest of the IFSMEVDOGPTBP for short

[plucky stag]

completing path of pain should have also been an achievement imo, also so that the achievement count goes up to a nice round 64

[west locust]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-baller-gif-14029524177706980174

[primal sky]

Or simply just
Crest of the Mighty

[west locust]

IM FUCKING HITTING MY MOVE

[torn herald]

TC likes people to suffer but not that much, making PoP mandatory would've been ridiculous lel

[worldly umbra]

satisfying

[plucky stag]

achievements aren't mandatory

[blazing storm]

The memory that we are seeing is from a kingmould so it makes sense as well, what wouldn't make sense is that pv was defending the place and with the pale king at the same time lol

[analog edge]

how is that mandatory

an achievement isnt mandatory

[torn herald]

Mandatory for the platinum that is

[west locust]

Bro im stuck on 99% on silksong WHERE TF IS THIS LAST SPOOL😭

[primal sky]

I could come up with crest ideas all evening

[analog edge]

that's on you if you want the platinum dont complain

[analog edge]

do you have the one above bone bottom?

[west locust]

yes

[plucky stag]

kinda hard to tell you where without knowing which ones you have or don't have

[analog edge]

below the elevator in whiteward?

[west locust]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-ballin'-alicezakat-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-hornet-hornet-hollow-knight-gif-17255413699395910145

[plucky stag]

i guess i could just run though the list of the ones you're most likely to have missed

the last two i needed hints for were the ones in mosshome and the one in memorium

but 8/9 i found without taking a hint

[analog edge]

for me it was mosshome and whiteward
mosshomes funny cause it's the first one you can get and it was the last one i got

[orchid locust]

why isn't my game saving at benches anymore

[plucky stag]

makes sense because you're probably not as thorough at the start and you don't think to come back

[graceful oyster]

Pantheon of Pharloom shuts off saving

So as to not screw up your saves

[orchid locust]

oh alr thanks

oh it says it in the mod description i should probably read 💀

[analog edge]

jobless people dontread

[weak laurel]

yessssss i made thou mist

[golden turret]

Chat.

[viscid tendon]

Yo guys
Rate My cat

[vagrant cave]

grooming crest (comb)

[timid plinth]

cant believe chat is dead

[modern tendon]

TRRRROBBIO

[graceful oyster]

Chat dead

[solar thistle]

I DID IT! surely beating silk song on steel soul will be a breeze

[timid plinth]

good job though

[left oracle]

tips for first sinenr?

[solar thistle]

i have a feeling its not that easy

[left oracle]

how do i get past them literally teleporting

[timid plinth]

utilize dash attacks

[graceful oyster]

Run and attack

[timid plinth]

also kind of predict where she'll end up

[solar thistle]

maybe have cog flies and on final phase spam them so you dont have to survive as long

[left oracle]

no red tools

[analog edge]

swap bracelet for band, longclaw and cogflies and we've got a deal going

[slim fiber]

I used the grappling hook a lot since it damages the boss then I can get one or two hits off before she teleports

[analog edge]

WHAT WASNT IT REALEASING DECEMBER 4

[viscid tendon]

Shhhh 🫢

[analog edge]

what the fuck

[weak laurel]

anyone know where map for Exhaust Organ

[timid plinth]

bilewater

[golden turret]

Bilewater map

[weak laurel]

well i cant get that till get double jump

[modern tendon]

I hate to say it but 100%ing Silksong is a lot more sluggish than 112%ing HK imo 💔

[slim fiber]

Drone and bomb slander I just like unleashing the swarm upon a boss the moment it hits the last phase and the bombs are fun because explosions

[analog edge]

you cant reach it

[weak laurel]

huh

[analog edge]

also exhaust organ doesnt have a map, the area it's in has a map, it would be useless for the ehxaust organ since it's indoors

[trim thorn]

why the hell is the third pale oil locked behind act three dog.

[rocky jolt]

delicate flower sucks

[timid plinth]

because why not

[slim fiber]

Anyways I can make it to phase 2 pretty consistently and getting to phase 3 isn’t too rare for me now

[lofty shell]

because you need the damage for the higher health enemies in act 3

[plucky stag]

if by breeze you mean the blasted steps, then yes

[trim thorn]

i want to fucking anihilate grand mother silk

[slim fiber]

Slight inconvenience ong

[lofty shell]

use architect

[analog edge]

delitcate flowers easy if you kill the enemies beforehand and use grubberfly

[modern tendon]

Surprisingly did it second try but I was super careful

[plucky stag]

what boss

[trim thorn]

no.

[slim fiber]

The nefarious literally any build ever

[slim fiber]

Oh I forgot to say 😭 lost lace

[analog edge]

you died to ll in steel soul?

oh wait +

[solar thistle]

but like how hard really is getting the achivemnt of beating steal soul mode, is it like super hard or if your good you can do it ion like 2 tries

[slim fiber]

I’m super bad at remembering to say what boss/game I mean whenever I talk about something

[modern tendon]

Also I would say 112%ing HK is obviously harder but it’s more entertaining
Meanwhile silksong’s is just “grind roseries and talk to npcs” 😭

[analog edge]

i read that as act 2 and act 3 for some reason lmao

[slim fiber]

Nah I ain’t good enough to even try Skong steel soul

[weak laurel]

then im lost now idk where to go after i get thou mist

[plucky stag]

it's about as tough as you think it is

[slim fiber]

I’d die to like shell wood enemy arena or something I’m comically bad at the game

[plucky stag]

ooh, good luck, you're in the home stretch now

[analog edge]

i beg to differ but ok

[lofty shell]

silksong is like a souls game
its difficult normally but you can cheese the game with specific builds like architect

[solar thistle]

yeah its one of my last 2 achivemnts i need to get so ill attempt it and prob die trying

[plucky stag]

if you're going for all achievements, go for steel heart

[analog edge]

i did it in 2 tries

[plucky stag]

it matters because the route you take if you're only going for any% and if you're going for 100% from the start is significantly different

[modern tendon]

Keep ascending the organ and you’ll find the boss, just make sure u grab the bench (it’s on the left side close to the entrance)
If that’s what you were needing help with

[solar thistle]

i want steel soul, and if i can even do steel soul ill try steel heart, but for now just steel soul

[modern tendon]

This is true

[slim fiber]

Yeah I did everything else first (except all mementos I’m not doing sprintmaster 4 or Seth high scores)

[weak laurel]

ok i keep look a way to get up

[plucky stag]

because if you're only going for steel soul you just want to rush to gms as fast as possible (while still optimizing for safety)

but if you're going for steel heart, the strat is to max out act 2 before you even fight lace 2

[left oracle]

how am i supposed to kill first sinner with witches crest... i hit her with a bind after a ton of failure and i only got 1 SINGLE mask back

[slim fiber]

Cause like I’m NOT beating lost lace a second time for 100% achievement may as well have gotten 100% before

[analog edge]

bruh why not sprintmaster, it's literally the third race but longer

[lofty shell]

bind when she binds

[left oracle]

did that and only got a single mask

[urban robin]

Sprintmaster 4 is easy its just 6 laps of the third course

[modern tendon]

I always felt so bad for her… this looks irreversible and painful 😕

[analog edge]

also you can cheese it if you dont move until sprintmaster finishes the race by himself

[plucky stag]

that was my logic too; i figured i'd chase down 100% so that as soon as i defeated the final boss i could put the game down

[lofty shell]

she became jesus

[slim fiber]

I hate sprintmaster

[solar thistle]

yeah is there a route somehwere for use steel soul and a safe route?

[plucky stag]

doesn't she literally sacrifice herself to help hornet and lace escape at the end

[trim thorn]

my brother in christ, you are the one who put her there

[analog edge]

actually once you beat her she becomes quite easy

took me a few hours the first time, but now i dont have any trouble at all with her

[modern tendon]

Something like that

[plucky stag]

there is one, i just don't know what it is

[modern tendon]

I had to for the completion 😭😭💔

[timid plinth]

she woke up just to be in some black liquid

[slim fiber]

Nah still was easier to just do like coral tower and all tools and hunters journal then go back and try and beat her

[trim thorn]

shes suffering because of you, its your fault

[viscid tendon]

I miss Steady Body in Silksong...

[modern tendon]

Her screams… she lost everything that night 😢

[modern tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-crying-black-man-cry-cry-meme-twitter-gif-4981409690540077050

[trim thorn]

was it worth the plus two completion

[modern tendon]

I fear not

[trim thorn]

we eating good tonight

[rocky jolt]

i dont she a bum

[modern tendon]

Wait I don’t get it 😟

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/sludge-mom-home-goog-google-gif-14206054267802833418

[trim thorn]

dog.

[modern tendon]

True like why was she tryna stab me??

[slim fiber]

She looks like the drinking bird things

[celest bramble]

i collected his stupid BS all around pharloom, and he use it to just make a pumpkin...

[slim fiber]

“FEED”

[modern tendon]

Oh oops I thought it was symbolism jshdjshd

[trim thorn]

i was going to steal it

[long verge]

happy thanksgiving

[trim thorn]

im canadian man we dont have thay

[slim fiber]

Erm actually it’s gelatin (I think idk) 🤓

[trim thorn]

thanksgiving does not exist in canada

[winter ocean]

Is that why your pronouns are it instead of thay

[modern tendon]

Imma make a hornet edit

[trim thorn]

i am not a they i am it, and its kinda funy

[solar thistle]

IK HOW TO BEAT STEEL SOUL, architect crest tool spam

[long verge]

interesting

[trim thorn]

yep truely

[winter ocean]

Why are you(it) funny?

[trim thorn]

idk man its kinda funny i dont have to explain my humor to you

[winter ocean]

No i mean why are calling yourself "funny" your name is sherma

[trim thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/i-was-the-knight-in-shining-armor-in-your-movie-block-button-fortnite-golden-scar-gif-4164992416993173401

[winter ocean]

Im joking

[solar thistle]

ITS RAGE BAIT CANT YOU SEE?

[winter ocean]

You said your pronouns are it so when you said IT is kinda funny

[trim thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/i-was-the-knight-in-shining-armor-in-your-movie-block-button-fortnite-golden-scar-gif-4164992416993173401

[timid plinth]

its as innocent as sherma you see

[gleaming agate]

most highly intellectual conversation ive ever seen

[trim thorn]

i have three braincells and a pringle

[winter ocean]

Sherma is so short that the joke flew over its head

[gleaming agate]

I have 2 and they’re competing for 3rd place

[bright umbra]

Is it actually possible to finish off pinstress or are you obligated to spare her I'm curious

[solar thistle]

stranger you truly baited well

[timid plinth]

hornet automatically spares her

[bright umbra]

That's nice I like her

[plucky stag]

same with the huge flea

[solar thistle]

you want to kill her?

[winter ocean]

I was trying to make a joke but it didnt get it

[bright umbra]

Nah I'm just curious

[plucky stag]

this isn't undertale

[orchid locust]

silksong genocide route

[trim thorn]

i mean technically a person falls down a deep height and has to survive the several monsters trying to kill them

[wraith dragon]

Why would hornet make me kill the verdanian prince

[trim thorn]

hehe funny heart

[bright umbra]

I'm pretty sure there was a pacifist route originally where if you don't kill anyone the last judge lets you pass

It was scrapped bc of moss mother iirc

[plucky stag]

there was a scrapped pacifist route, where if you had managed to get to the grand gate without killing anything you get to skip the last judge fight

[timid plinth]

she wants a heart to display, how sweet

[weary gorge]

Any of you guys play blasphemous before?

[light swan]

yea

[solar thistle]

for the love of the game

[plucky stag]

that's probably how sherma canonically got in the citadel; he was so pure that she just let him through

[winter ocean]

Along with all of the rooms that lock you in and force you to kill people

[light swan]

why couldn’t sherma go to the citadel after we killed the judge again

[weary gorge]

Okay so I have not but I had a thought, what if we got dlc that gave us blasphemous style new game + where the game is harder and you chose a modifier, and you got a reward that you could keep between new game + runs for winning

[bright umbra]

Honestly it's probably mercy bc bros entire home and his husband r both gone

[slim fiber]

After her floating in the air for 70% of the fight and making me just wait around yes (/j)

[trim thorn]

whar? i got past for free those judges are mad nice

[winter ocean]

They likely are only talking about the route where you get in through bilewater

[timid plinth]

I'd like to think it is because it is not fit for hornet to be a pacifist as she's a hunter

[orchid locust]

is that possible in the current game actually besides moss mother obv

[slim fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/sherma-silksong-absolute-cinema-gif-774649724514166125

[plucky stag]

not at all

[trim thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/sherma-silksong-absolute-cinema-gif-774649724514166125

[coarse leaf]

awooo

[plucky stag]

i guess i played the game the canonical way because i kept hunter for 90% of the game

[slim fiber]

[trim thorn]

flea how many more must bleed for the flea caravan

[plucky stag]

the 10% was when i stuck with reaper for a while because i thought that was just the next evolution of the crest

[coarse leaf]

countless

[plucky stag]

i didn't realize right away that the crests were their own separate things

[slim fiber]

[bright umbra]

Guys real question the brown part on the fleas is it their mouth open in a :3 face or is it their head and they have bangs

[trim thorn]

:3

[lofty shell]

they should add a silksong genocide route where you get hunter's journal entry for every single enemy in act 1, the last judge gets bones and gaster blasters

[bright umbra]

I can keep seeing them as little dudes with bangs for some reason

[slim fiber]

I think you’re on your own here

[timid plinth]

for the longest time, i thought it was their tongue

[plucky stag]

i am literally in the middle of my own genocide playthrough and in the middle of fighting sans

[bright umbra]

Wait I see that too now

[plucky stag]

is every interaction with sk-discussion personalized?

[winter ocean]

No we are all ai

[slim fiber]

So you aren’t in the middle then

[timid plinth]

seems fitting since they sound like dogs

[plucky stag]

this is why lawyers exist

[soft belfry]

no they're generic

[weak laurel]

ok phantom is that hard but hard i got in phase 2 thou i just need get timing better

[trim thorn]

guys should i upgrade my nail because the conducters arena is kicking my butt :(

[winter ocean]

"hard i got in phase 2"

[bright umbra]

I can only see the tongue now thanks

[timid plinth]

you should

[plucky stag]

if you can, do so unless you're doing a challenge run

[stray valve]

Do I fight this thing again

[weak laurel]

oh is she harder in phase 2

[timid plinth]

fortunately no

[plucky stag]

they're just there for display

[soft belfry]

taunt

[timid plinth]

a little bit i suppose

[stray valve]

Aw man

[rocky orchid]

only have 5 more fleas

[royal mason]

Is Growstone good?

[soft belfry]

if ur using barbed bracelet take it off

[winter ocean]

No it is evil

[weak laurel]

oh im just have timing problem and not take so many hit

[slim fiber]

High halls enemy arena gotta be the worst part of the game (except moorwing tedious ah fight why did it take longer than radiance it’s only 2 phases and it still took 7 minutes)

[trim thorn]

is thisbetter

[bright umbra]

It made me so angry I left most of the work to shakra bc of my skill issue

[timid plinth]

that's pretty good

[slim fiber]

And moorwing was made worse by me finding the secret path to it because I got the natural inclination to just keep going until I beat a boss to move on

[weak laurel]

oh ok

[trim thorn]

moorwing was easy for me

[plucky stag]

hivesteel is very powerful, it's stronger than the one i had when i defeated the forum

[timid plinth]

same

[slim fiber]

Yeah I found out shakra could help and left until I figured out how (just knew she could help not how to get her to) and by the time I went back I had nearly everything from act2 done

[sour kraken]

karmelita may be the first boss I have ever decided to take a break from and come back to later

[trim thorn]

how do iget her to help :)

[bright umbra]

I just realized hornets name is hornet and she grew up with bees that's pretty neat

[sour kraken]

find all her maps, then do her side quest in bilewater

[soft belfry]

y'all remember when some guy here said he cheated in pale needle and 9 masks and lost to last judge still

[blazing storm]

It's like a slightly harder arena, and that's if you're under geared

[slim fiber]

Yeah it’s a really easy boss it’s just that it takes like over a hundred nail hits to kill and is a flying boss

[timid plinth]

it is not really confirmed but that makes the most sense

[slim fiber]

It’s so annoying like just let the enemy arena end ong

Why is like 5 gazillion bajillion waves

[sour kraken]

the high halls is definitely possible without shakra if you lock in I just had so many skill issues in the final 2 phases

[blazing storm]

It took like 2 minutes to me

[soft belfry]

the arena is mostly a joke, it only has 2-3 real waves that are an issue

[slim fiber]

How do you possibly kill everything that quickly ong

[bright umbra]

I do wish there was a Vespa boss fight hopefully it's in dlc

[slim fiber]

Real

[timid plinth]

i did it without shakra, early on in the game too

it took me a while but i did it

[slim thorn]

i was noclipping and took this screenshot

[slim fiber]

Except it would be yet another finesse boss and it already feels like there’s a lot of them

[slim thorn]

she still not as tall

[trim thorn]

SHES GOING TO KILL SHAKRA

[soft belfry]

the cogfly summoners and final 2 big guys are the only problematic ones imo, the rest are basically free silk

[timid plinth]

still not tall enough

[sour kraken]

I got so close but decided to spare my sanity

[blazing storm]

I remember cogflies and silkshot (the original version), the rest was just some threadstorm and hit enemies until they die lol

[plucky stag]

they did program her moves, so that's a possibility

[trim thorn]

💔

[solemn goblet]

shakra pretending she cant beat hornet up rn