sk-discussion

[solemn goblet]

i cant watch much of that whole leftist video essay stuff bc its so depressing so i just watch stupid media breakdowns

[grizzled turtle]

its hegemol himself, not the maggot
should've mentioned that

[light swan]

its fine and im good at it, its just kratt

[icy crow]

It's a tie then

[light swan]

he doesnt move so he messes up my timing and my flow

[solemn goblet]

are you sensing slight religous themes in silksong that didnt slap you oh the face with roasery beads and pilgrims

[heady rampart]

we really think fire can get thru that armor?? one mace swing into the little fire thing and judge explodes

[light swan]

but i just have this primal urge to attack him with my 2x damaging pogo but he always dodges it

[graceful oyster]

I don't care what you say you're doing bounce with Architect you're suffering

[grizzled turtle]

ngl hot take but last judge would be enough of a fight for most of the great knights if they're by themselves

[light swan]

im having fun

[ornate torrent]

shes a clean fight and a really good "tech lab" iykwim

[grizzled turtle]

great knights have so many damn glazers 💀

[icy crow]

I am aware Silksong uses religion as one of its main themes lol

[delicate tendon]

karmelita's blocks are crazy, not even seth was doing allat

[graceful oyster]

Yeah right, blink if you're in pain

[dawn narwhal]

why aren't the flies spawning for me, how do I get kidnapped

[solemn goblet]

ew a man theme

[icy crow]

It's just funny how most bosses are named after cardinal or ordinal numbers

[grizzled turtle]

this is just glaze

[rocky jolt]

thats what im saying

[native canyon]

there's this one website that has an analysis for every episode of the sopranos and the analysis for the final episode actually made me stop and think for like half an hour

[icy crow]

Forgot the i

[heady rampart]

i js hate last judge gang mb

[foggy tapir]

wsg chat how we doin

[solemn goblet]

i’ve never even watched the sopranaos i might go just watch that anyway

[crisp thicket]

I got Seth's memento (after some suffering)

[polar stag]

Jacob Geller's actually my fav video essayist I won't tolerate slander.

[native canyon]

very good show

[solemn goblet]

his excecutiok one was the only one i watched from him it was decent but i was pretty much already familiar with all he covered and the point he was arguing and agreed with it

[fiery burrow]

he's so dry and he makes videos about the most boring topics and he just comes off as a pseudointellectual trying too hard to sound smart

[icy crow]

I found one in Deep Docks in the top right. It's a dead end room

[crisp thicket]

true

[solemn goblet]

welcome to video essays

[icy crow]

First Sinner and Second Sentinel gaming

[fiery burrow]

One of his videos is titled "Staring into the Sun and Other Ways of Capturing Transcendence"

[solemn goblet]

we’re just mistting a third

[icy crow]

No boss named with "Third" I guess

[fiery burrow]

I cannot take the dude seriously at all

[light swan]

I HATE KRATT

[unique furnace]

Third Beastfly

[icy crow]

Yeah lol

[crisp thicket]

third game in hollow knight franchise zoteboat

[solemn goblet]

||”looking for a third”||

[foggy tapir]

im gonna first the sinner

[polar stag]

I guess it depends on what you find interesting but personally I love his analysis of different things and how he draws comparisons between different media

[crisp thicket]

there are three mantis lords though

[heady rampart]

third trobbio encounter

[rocky jolt]

valve curse

[polar stag]

I find the topics he discusses interesting

[crisp thicket]

my percentage got higher now but I'm too lazy to log back in the game and update

[icy crow]

Should I let myself be kidnapped to the Slab for easy Mount Fay access in act two?

[velvet cape]

As much as i hate video essays as a whole i cant ignore the fact that the reason they work is because most people are genuinely stupid and need to be carried by the hand like toddlers for every media they consume

[foggy tapir]

do the words, "mantis lords" have a third in them?

[foggy tapir]

idk breh dont ask me

[icy crow]

Valve supposedly tweeting "3" moment

[grizzled turtle]

estimate size difference

[heady rampart]

plus you listen to peak music at the end of it

[native canyon]

that's true

[light swan]

i just have so much range on architect its fun, and the airstall is super satisfying too

[icy crow]

Worth it

[rocky jolt]

valve tweeting the number 3 (it means theres 3 weeks left for deadlock to release)

[foggy tapir]

last knight... that would be an interesting ship...

[solemn goblet]

”have you connextsd the religous themes in silksong?

[unique furnace]

I like this approach in regular runs but avoid the risk in Steel Soul.

[worldly umbra]

guess the silksong OST but my horrible version

main melody: BAH ... BAH ... BAH ... BADA BADA BADA BADA

backround stuff: bum bum bum bum bum
... = backround stuff

[crisp thicket]

mantis lords in reverse is sdrol sitnam which means "third government camera"

[icy crow]

Especially if you're not with enough masks I assume

[graceful oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273808030261182544/1284657703377043499/C02ECC68-ACE2-4293-8992-BE67B45E6378.gif

[crisp thicket]

blasted steps

[worldly umbra]

you are already close

[native canyon]

last judge

[crisp thicket]

last judge

[velvet cape]

With that said i like video essays the same way i like to listen to garbage audio

[worldly umbra]

can you see the visionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqJctrNeEyw&list=PLbNT78Q7M14yC4iIN4RaQqGa6q6zY6bqc&index=28

[crisp thicket]

can you hear the silence

[native canyon]

I can't listen to video essays that are just summaries 😭

[icy crow]

Someone should make a Voidheart and Silksong OSR playlist but all of it is in bad quality

[solemn goblet]

prog fans love this (its in 6/8)

[graceful oyster]

Last Judge track goes so hard I swear I need to buy a better audio system for my car for Skong ost

[polar stag]

this comes off as kind of elitist. The reason I prefer Jacob Geller over most video essayist is because he seems to actually have unique opinions and perspectives on the media he discusses as opposed to just discussing it on a surface level.

Idk why the extreme hate for video essays as a concept is so common. There's nothing wrong with wanting to hear other people's perspectives on media you enjoy

[native canyon]

it's true prog fans love this shit

[solemn goblet]

i have no clue ab it some guy started yammering ab kind crimson to me once and i just idk

[native canyon]

hell most of the time if it's something I enjoy it's just regurgitating what I already knew

[icy crow]

I like how Silksong has both some serious and goofy soundtracks at the same time

[polar stag]

it's 4 sentences but okay

[fiery burrow]

Only video essayist I listen to is Ceave Perspective who I find to be very unintentionally funny there was like a phase he had where he was connecting every game to Nietzsche

[worldly umbra]

i hate reading

[slim jetty]

….

[icy crow]

Goofy beat playing as I fight a horde of ants is the funniest shit I've got through so far

[crisp thicket]

guess the silksong ost
main:🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻 🎻
background:🎻 🎻 ⬛ 🎻 🎻 ⬛ 🎻 🎻

[graceful oyster]

The goofy being like Trobbio and that's about it

[slim jetty]

seems the silksong hype has dyed down after a bit from the day
flashbacks

[heady rampart]

anylise ts

[icy crow]

Nah there's some arena rooms which pulls up funny tracks

[native canyon]

he'd probably love the xenosaga games, the subtitles for each game are works by nietzsche

[fiery burrow]

I don't hate all video essays they can be fun but they're pretty undeniably oversaturated with slop content

The roguelikes of youtube

[hexed trellis]

https://youtu.be/zb-QSvXZFY0?si=FL6yFqycOHcQYZlg

[crisp thicket]

the lion does not concern himself with hype

[graceful oyster]

What, Cut Through?

[polar stag]

TLDR: My point is there's nothing wrong with wanting to hear different perspectives on media you enjoy, and I think Jacob Geller specifically actually discusses them in a way I connect with/enjoy

[crisp thicket]

[icy crow]

You're telling me this Water is Bile?

[worldly umbra]

better

[light swan]

beautifulwater

[icy crow]

Not sure about the names of each soundtrack but I'll check

[crisp thicket]

is no one going to answer this

[slim jetty]

Silksong is really good game, but trying to get to play it was a battle

On day one

[solemn goblet]

Nietzsche like god is dead like gott ich tott like god-ish like miku its HATSUNE MIKU

[rocky jolt]

i did bilewater after putrified ducts so it really wasnt that bad for me

[light swan]

KRATT CAN GO DIE

[worldly umbra]

sister of the void ost

[velvet cape]

That wasnt directed towards jacob geller i watched his video and while i didnt like how what he said for 30 minutes couldve been said in 10 minutes i liked the idea he proposed

Wanting to hear peoples perspectives isnt a problem at all the problem me and most of people have with video essays is that the people who make them offer nothing new to what they should be analyzing and at worst they make his viewers look atupid pointing out the most obvious and superficial points you can have

If anything i recommend you watch a channel named flawed peacock he gives his perspective at the same time he narrates what hes analyzing

[solemn goblet]

any connection to nietzsche is a connection to hatsune miku

[fiery burrow]

Here's a taste of the best Video Essayist of all time https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxQ6PLg7N3dWs9v87mOtdtJ2WhNgCX8ol5

[dawn narwhal]

how do I get into the upper slap without being able to get kidnapped

[crisp thicket]

any connection to silk is a connection to song

[polar stag]

I half agree. There is a lot of just content farming essayist that add nothing new to the conversation, but Jacob Geller's content is actually well thought out and high effort. He actually familiarizes himself with the media he discusses and does his research. He definitely doesn't make slop

[solemn goblet]

upper slap?

[crisp thicket]

upper slab

[native canyon]

brevity is the soul of wit as they say

[crisp thicket]

steve is the soul of jobs or whatever

[dawn narwhal]

Idk a better way to describe it

[solemn goblet]

thank you pinnichiop for connecting a german philospher to hatsune miku

[fiery burrow]

There's a nearly 30 minute video about digging a hole 😭

[native canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493

[solemn goblet]

in fact

[fiery burrow]

I don't even think I could name a single point he makes in his videos its like my memory just completely blanks while watching them

[solemn goblet]

we can directly connect hatsune miku to either yamaha or sega

[worldly umbra]

ceave my berloved

[solemn goblet]

meaning yahmaha drum sets are related to Nietzsche

[velvet cape]

Im so glad to live in a world where we can connect hatsune miku with porter robinson

[native canyon]

what a day today has been

[velvet cape]

Incel drums...?

[fiery burrow]

dude i haven't listened to porter robinson in forever

[velvet cape]

You gotta listen to smile

[worldly umbra]

when i heard this in the trailer i was genuinely about to cry because HEAR THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjfmDO2rZYM&list=RDVjfmDO2rZYM&start_radio=1&rv=Dq8wGcWeXwg

[fiery burrow]

I loved easier to love you

[velvet cape]

All of you gotta listen to porter robinson asap

Man i could talk about porter robinson for hours but this isnt the place

[solemn goblet]

through hatsune miku

[vale sleet]

[solemn goblet]

hatsune miku is the connection between Nietzsche and yahmaha

[native canyon]

what a fucking sentence

[solemn goblet]

unfortunately didn’t cause yahama bc the timing is very off but theres a solid link

through one lyric of one miku-using song

[native canyon]

that's enough

[icy crow]

That's peak but hear me out

https://youtu.be/pIE09SZtnXM?si=Bum2wl4xMnlILPXs

[native canyon]

wait what the fuck is your pfp

[coarse leaf]

[native canyon]

imagine being told off by dyno

[stoic otter]

🥀

[velvet cape]

Hatsune miku and vocaloid has to be one of the beat things that happened to humanity

[native canyon]

that's true

[solemn goblet]

um found it on instagram 2 years ago

[stoic otter]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvischeeks-gif-11479835501113597450

[solemn goblet]

pretty vampire lady?

[polar stag]

He also has videos about game design in different genres, or how the idea of a forest is presented or used in different genres and media, especially in games, or fight scenes in different games and movies such as Sifu, Metal Gear, or various Kung Fu movies.

There's also again, nothing wrong with delving into a particularly simple sounding topic like Digging a Hole and how different games use that idea. It's reductive to say "there's nothing to be said about digging a hole"

[light swan]

KRATTTTTTT

[stoic otter]

i like digging holes

[polar stag]

Cities without People is also a really good one

[stoic otter]

digging holes is the greatest invention humans have created

[fiery burrow]

ok well

There's nothing interesting to be said about digging a hole

At least not from Geller

[native canyon]

I dug a hole once, not a fun experience

[stoic otter]

did you know that digging a hole actually gets soil out of the ground

see how interesting

[fiery burrow]

forgot about this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kQXOTcEB_E

[stoic otter]

https://tenor.com/view/digging-thank-you-gif-8141656698417804254

[fiery burrow]

I fw this video

[solemn goblet]

i saw a group of guys decide to dig a hole once

[native canyon]

#guystuff

[solemn goblet]

it hit about 6 feet deep

[stoic otter]

personally i like to permanently alter the landscape of major countries

[fiery burrow]

It also says everything there is to say in less than 30 minutes 🥀

[solemn goblet]

honestly they sounded like they were having the time of their life

[stoic otter]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-tony-stark-marvel-fart-brap-gif-22737442

[solemn goblet]

men are a mystery

[native canyon]

they were absolutely in a frat

if they were too young they'd be in a frat in the future

[stoic otter]

are you saying women arent because i dont believe you

[solemn goblet]

7th graders

[stoic otter]

i am afraid of and mystified by women

[solemn goblet]

all humans are a mystery men are just more

[native canyon]

imagine admitting that

[hexed trellis]

https://youtu.be/Rp-gPD_-RM4?si=o65XFpZX89MqP60i

[fiery burrow]

that ain't a guy thing everyone cool digs holes at the beach 💔

[solemn goblet]

this was in a random forest

[stoic otter]

women were made up by the government to sell more bathrooms

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-losing-my-grip-on-reality-i-have-gone-clinically-insane-my-descent-to-madness-is-complete-ive-gone-completely-mental-i-am-beyond-the-point-of-no-return-gif-23191724

[solemn goblet]

i like digging holes at beaches

[polar stag]

you're being deliberately reductive and simplifying a video down to its title. again he has videos like Cities without People as well, or the Shape of Infinity which discusses stuff like Megastructures in games like NaissanceE, or manga like BLAME!.

[native canyon]

???

#guystuff

[fiery burrow]

I only remember the title because the video was forgettable

[solemn goblet]

i was with my friends and my neighbor was digging with them that’s how i figured out about it

idk what the point was

[woven spade]

Are we just going to ignore this?

[fiery burrow]

This is understandable too

There's a reason dogs are compelled to dig holes

[delicate tendon]

A boss was giving me trouble so i tried the no double damage mod, I got it first try but of course it kind of drained all the soul from the fight. I do plan to get the godhome mod, once I get the true ending

[woven spade]

This is a radiance level threat

[native canyon]

this sounds like something the guys in regular show would do

[solemn goblet]

i agree men are dogs/s

[ornate torrent]

i personally prefer altering the composition of the atmosphere

[native canyon]

hey, that's offensive! I know a few good dogs!

[timid plinth]

:(

[woven spade]

The implication of grand mother silk implies a mother silk

[worldly umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[fiery burrow]

Herrah

[native canyon]

grand mother is a title

[polar stag]

maybe you're just annoying and don't understand preference and opinions. Just because you don't get something out of someone's content doesn't make it bad or low effort.

Ik for a fact the guy puts a lot of research, and thought into the media he actually talks about and titles don't tell you the whole story. you seem like you're just hating for the hell of it.

[stoic otter]

i alter the landscape of major and minor countries i do not discriminate

[fiery burrow]

she's both a mother of silk who is grand and hornet's literal grandma

[solemn goblet]

i dont hate men i was joking ab the way they phrased the “dogs compelledd to dig”

[native canyon]

[solemn goblet]

well i dont like men

[hard umbra]

Hey uh I don’t talk on here often. But I need help with something

[eager widget]

lmao

[fiery burrow]

I don't really think you understand how subjectivity works

[woven spade]

Oh you don’t hate men? Prove it by listing every man

[stoic otter]

adoptive grandma also we dont know what generation of weaver hornet is, herrah's parents could be weavers

[worldly umbra]

so you are libearian

[velvet cape]

You did not say any lie

[fiery burrow]

And calling someone annoying because they dislike someone's content is uh 🥴

[worldly umbra]

librarian

[ornate torrent]

herrah is a first child

[polar stag]

you're the one who called it slop and reduced a video down to its titles, and then didn't give a single other example

[fiery burrow]

Hornet is half weaver therefore Herrah is full weaver

[stoic otter]

how so?

[hard umbra]

Has anyone else encountered a bug in silksong? Ok that doesn’t narrow it down so I’ll explain.

[ornate torrent]

what starpengu said

[polar stag]

wrong reply

[woven spade]

Am I…?

[fiery burrow]

Slop is subjective yes

[polar stag]

i meant to reply to starpengu

[velvet cape]

Yes catmann

[eager widget]

yah

[solemn goblet]

2 of thr same visual bug

[fiery burrow]

Also I did give another example but wtv

[hard umbra]

During the starting part of that… twisted bud thing.

[hard umbra]

I try to leave the area. It’s my second playthrough. I hit a breakable wall 3 times.

[solemn goblet]

ive managed to survive a hit an end up on 0hp twice

[woven spade]

Dang it’s canon now :<

[hard umbra]

But then the game just crashes. Entirely

And it’s consistent,

[velvet cape]

Poshanka

[solemn goblet]

TWICE! what is love?‼️

[polar stag]

Slop isn't subjective in the contenxt it's popularly used. Slop implies a lack of thought or effort put into something. That factually doesn't imply to Jacob Geller because he's talked about and sourced all the research he uses for his videos.

[livid nexus]

how come we never fight one of those moss ball thingies behind moss mother, they also fly up when exiting the moss grotto. We see their cocoons and what's presumably their older stages but not the little circle guys

[native canyon]

doesn't sound like a visual bug lol

[woven spade]

Why do you wish to slaughter children?

[livid nexus]

silk

[solemn goblet]

no its not its iust a free extra life i just realized

[fiery burrow]

I'm just using it to call it low quality content that doesn't stand out in comparison to its competition which isn't that unusual

[native canyon]

purple guy

[hard umbra]

Does anyone know what’s going on? I’m on console btw

[stark kestrel]

the double lace fight is kinda broken cuz one of the laces just sits there and watches

[stoic otter]

what happens if two weavers breed then, would it not just create another weaver? herrah could be like an 8th generation fullblooded weaver so she wouldnt be hornets grandma. also pharlids were raised to sentience by gms, not biologically conceived, even if they were adopted by her. so no grand mother is a title, and the only creatures possibly biologically related to gms sre lace and phantom

[woven spade]

Understandable have a good day

[fiery burrow]

Weavers are all female so that doesn't happen

[solemn goblet]

||shes in the side chair||

[stark kestrel]

they're all female

[livid nexus]

besides, the muckmaggots are children, the squibs, the verdanian children

[solemn goblet]

what if weavers asexually reproduce

[woven spade]

Porple dude

[fiery burrow]

And GMS is still considered the weavers mother even if not biological its like very obvious wordplay lmao

[polar stag]

well it's not low quality, but okay. dude's gone from just around 100k subs to almost 1.5 million over a few years for a reason. clearly his content resonates with people

[woven spade]

What if weavers produce

[velvet cape]

Yeah lets be real when you compare jacob to actual good video essayists he isnt near close to them

[native canyon]

I mean that probably depends on the weaver lol

[stoic otter]

yea like other bugs have been shown to create offspring artificially so idk

[fiery burrow]

Like I said, you don't understand how subjectivity works.

The fact that people like his content is irrelevant to how I like it

[timid plinth]

arent weavers just spiders

[hard umbra]

Or does anyone have a fix?

[native canyon]

other people like it obviously you have to like it too!

[woven spade]

You’re literally their silk mother how do you NOT know this

[timid plinth]

i forgor

[stoic otter]

oh im silking it im silking it

[solemn goblet]

my theory id they frsgment into 2 and then repair

[native canyon]

weaver mitosis

[trim thorn]

im so good at finding bugs

[velvet cape]

Mitosis

[polar stag]

"I don't like it" and "it's low quality" are different statements. One is an opinion, one is declaring a factual quality about something

[woven spade]

Put this person into a spool of silk immediately

[stoic otter]

weaver spores

[primal horizon]

hi star and box

[stoic otter]

thats what they did to me back on sinners road

[native canyon]

the latter statement is opinionated lol

[graceful oyster]

[viscid tendon]

14 DAYS UNTIL METROID PRIME 4 BEYOND!!!

[native canyon]

hi krill!

[fiery burrow]

Qualitative statements are inherently subjective

[rocky jolt]

not hard to find bugs in this game

[solemn goblet]

erm actshually its fragmentation ☝️

[trim thorn]

i mean yeah fair all of the characters are bugs

[primal horizon]

Getting Over It would technically be a “low-quality game” then

[woven spade]

Boo this nerd

[graceful oyster]

That's not true Palestag is objectively the best from my perspective

[hard umbra]

Anyone?

[fiery burrow]

"I think chocolate ice cream is low quality"
"Eeeeeeeerm well lots of people LIKE chocolate ice cream so CLEARLY it resonates with people!"

[stoic otter]

grand mother silk is called grand mommy silk over on sinners road

[native canyon]

#PALESTAGSWEEP

[stoic otter]

first statement is opinion, second is bandwagon logical fallacy (nvm ur saying it resonates w ppl so second statement correct)

[arctic epoch]

[solemn goblet]

now i want to do a biology deep dive on every silkssong ememy as to how they function and what they consume

[graceful oyster]

Gloomsacs

[wise thicket]

That is the nature of a true hunter

[native canyon]

really interested in the biology of the hokers

[woven spade]

Is the water in bilewater just Baja blast?

[stoic otter]

what is the biology of kratt

[primal plank]

EVERYBODY GO VOTE SILKSONG RIGJT NOWWWWWW FOR GOTY & BEST MUSIC / SCORE!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[woven spade]

I imagine that’s hella toxic for bugs

[trim thorn]

no its sprite

[stoic otter]

do not the muckmaggots

[velvet cape]

Omw to vote e33

[solemn goblet]

natural habitats, reproduction, anatomy, consumption,

[trim thorn]

im gonna be honest i dont like the music non of it sticks out to me

[primal plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373188980195201094/1407207188698628207/speed.gif

[native canyon]

exercising my free will by voting for death stranding 2

[graceful oyster]

NO! The people's vote is 10%! It's so borderline pointless!

[velvet cape]

NOOOOOOOOO

[stoic otter]

what is anatomy of kratt is he just made of idiot

[woven spade]

Is your favorite character Nuu by any chance?

[fiery burrow]

10% isn't negligible

[primal plank]

you need to turn the music up then because bilewater, skarrsinger karmelita, lost lace, deep docks.. SO much good music

[graceful oyster]

It's pretty negligible

[fiery burrow]

🥴

[solemn goblet]

for example what are the flowers enemies emitting in shellwood? can we anahlize them? is it spores? acid spray?

[trim thorn]

hes 60% creep 30% punching bag 10% flea

[stoic otter]

10% of goty is like at least 2

[empty flume]

Hi

[primal horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-26689902

[fiery burrow]

Pollen

[woven spade]

That explains a lot

[stoic otter]

anatomy of hornet but fanart hornet

[graceful oyster]

Bro what did they do to this dog

[empty flume]

This poor pup

[stoic otter]

showed him kratt

[native canyon]

they said they like using reaper crest

[trim thorn]

hot take hollow knights music is better then silksong

[graceful oyster]

That'll do it

[primal plank]

dog has ball in mouth and does not wish to grant human access to ball

[solemn goblet]

. more spines are being selected for now as its addional protection, tell your local speedrunmet

[primal horizon]

Have we never seen this gif before 😭

[fiery burrow]

tuff

[trim thorn]

his greed sickens me

[stoic otter]

hot take silk song is a game in the year

[empty flume]

I haven’t idk about you

[native canyon]

I could probably hazard a guess about what this is about

[native canyon]

I prefer the lower quality version

[stoic otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1432906308230582393/fleadom_motif.gif

[primal plank]

i mean it has the exact same creative direction, only difference is that og hk had less range in what they could accomplish. ngl if you prefer hk's soundtrack it's just nostalgia speaking / u had ur music too low while playing silksong

[primal horizon]

I see

[woven spade]

But silksong has the word song D :

[native canyon]

god forbid someone has an opinion

[stoic otter]

opinion existering challenge impossible

[graceful oyster]

Coral Gorge motif

[fiery burrow]

I prefer Silksong's OST but I do think Hollow Knight has better musical storytelling

[wise thicket]

Bellhart = city of tears sorry couldn't pick

[worldly umbra]

seth game progress today, gonna work on these areas tomorrow

[primal plank]

if someone has an opinion then i am allowed to have an opinion.. about their opinion ^_^

[solemn goblet]

flea with enlarged head, which takes high amohts of energy, but insects lack brains, also, the eyes are a new eye spot evolution: as fleas have grown in size, theyve become easier to spot

[woven spade]

My favorite song in this game is Last Dive

[graceful oyster]

Sealed Vessel solos Lost Lace

[trim thorn]

yeah but you actively tried to prove me wrong and called my opinion invalid man...

[fiery burrow]

Regular lace solos lost lace

[primal plank]

i agree because why the hell is Bilewater so angelic

[stoic otter]

incorrect kratt is made up of perv and stupid

[fiery burrow]

Well its a somber song in an area that was once beautiful but ruined by the Citadel's pollution

[woven spade]

If we divide both of em we are left with Regular Lost

[stoic otter]

thats literally musical storytelling lmao

[fiery burrow]

I think all themes fit (Except for Seth) I'm just talking about leitmotifs

[graceful oyster]

In game files it's "Sad Wanderer"

[primal plank]

yeah, my opinion is that the soundtracks are too similar in creative direction for someone to be like "this soundtrack is definitely better than this one" when theyre so similar

i mean youre fine to hold that opinion this is just my take 💀

[solemn goblet]

kratt has also lost evolved 4 legs based on what we can see, so hes no longer a flea or an insect exceot by dna sequencing

[trim thorn]

personally for me i think its when im in the underworks and i give rosarys to that underworks prayer thing did i realize citade=bad

[vale karma]

Why does the Savage beastfly invoke something within Hornet and not other beasts

[woven spade]

What if they cleaned Bilewater? Would it just be called water?

[stoic otter]

extra leg is for sinners road activities

[lean pendant]

Generative AI images and videos should be outlawed.

[stoic otter]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-bad-mmasonghi-cinemarewind-mason-eubank-boomer-gif-gif-11812595894995010809

[lean pendant]

Me when Sinner's Road.

[primal plank]

im kinda split because while i understand what you mean, i dont think you get what i mean

[fiery burrow]

😭

[trim thorn]

no it would be called the lost lakes prolly or maybe called clean waters

[lean pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5im15t5f7Ik

[stark kestrel]

half chorus (double fourth chorus) works surprisingly well

[graceful oyster]

For me it was the fact that Judges on blasted steps cave in the shells of pilgrims they deem unworthy, I think that's pretty bad

[woven spade]

Waters

[stoic otter]

i do understand what you mean im just saying the example you picked was the opposite of what u were saying

[solemn goblet]

in fact all the fleas have evolved not to be fleas, and call themselves that just as a group name. it appears fluffy and less fluffy fleas are different species

[lean pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yPulnyHK3mA

[polar stag]

I'm just saying you use the simplest fucking video out of his entire channel as if to say "all his content is like this" when 90% of his content is about much less simple or barebones topics.

Architecture of Fumito Ueda, Fear of the Dark, Games That Don't Fake Space, Sekiro's Parry and Other Pursuits of Perfection

[trim thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-6069929492524291916

[polar stag]

those videos are not "simple" or "low-quality"

[primal plank]

to further explain:
i understand what bilewater is and what it represents, i just think the music is too angelic for the story of the area. then again, i understand exactly what tc was going for in the process

[stoic otter]

https://tenor.com/view/premium-monkey-by-hero-911-glass-monkey-drinking-monkey-gif-9766610647612679055

[woven spade]

Is this the final boss of act 4?

[stoic otter]

me too i understandering

[fathom echo]

And why do they care about the sins of pilgrims when the choir’s whole purpose is to contain gms

[fiery burrow]

I don't really recognize any of these videos except for the Sekiro one which I also found immensely boring

[stark kestrel]

DO IFRAMES NOT PROTECT YOU FROM ENVIROMENT???

[trim thorn]

me when i ignore enviromental story telling

[trim thorn]

how do you not know this

[graceful oyster]

Because it's fake

[native canyon]

easier to keep a secret when less people are in a position to learn about it

[primal plank]

bro's pressed

[woven spade]

Why are you trying to parry the environment?

[fiery burrow]

and like yea ofc I picked the most extreme example to illustrate my point

[trim thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-gif-13180585820064250219

[stark kestrel]

normally i don't get that much enviroment damage but im fighting double fourth chorus rn

[stoic otter]

real question is why arent you

[lean pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/deepwoken-deepwoken-block-parry-dodge-block-parry-dodge-low-tier-god-gif-24722977

[trim thorn]

oh

[fathom echo]

Not like it mattered in the end

[polar stag]

and that's the 1 video with such an extremely simple premise as its title

[solemn goblet]

this in turn brings up the theory that because more fluffy fleas are less intellegent, lacking linguistic capabilities and basic survival skills, they are but a pet species for less fouffy fleas, destined to be pets by birth, meaning vog is very brave for escaping her fate. she also shows rhat flea educatoon is important, as she has learned to speak

[lean pendant]

Protip: Just block parry dodge, bro.

[trim thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-burning-robert-helpmann-markiplier-getting-over-it-rage-gif-1734552878806861009

[fiery burrow]

There's a video about staring into the sun

[polar stag]

maybe don't make generalizations if you haven't watched 99% of the dude's content

[trim thorn]

markiplier died btw

[woven spade]

Could the knight play string instruments like Hornet or is homie terrible at music?

[stoic otter]

mooshka very fluff and big smort

[fiery burrow]

Every video I've seen of his has been consistently uninteresting

[native canyon]

that's my favorite pastime

[trim thorn]

me when i lie

[graceful oyster]

Oh wow how did he die

[polar stag]

do you not understand figurative language or metaphor, or do you take every title literally?

[trim thorn]

fire

[stoic otter]

disgusting public hanging

[graceful oyster]

It's soul healing, genuinely, so long as you do it safely

[trim thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925855860557746267/1179918693564690442/public.gif

[fiery burrow]

Metaphor for what dawg 💔

[native canyon]

metaphor for staring into the sun

[woven spade]

Why is everyone saying the number four is meta?

[graceful oyster]

[naive jasper]

hear me out: crust king khann / j

[polar stag]

watch the fucking video I'm not gonna do your research for you. clearly I'm talking to an idiot

[solemn goblet]

have you considered his only motivation for keeping fleas is as pets, not educating them, even when more fluffier fleas shown to have high capacity for thought? (vog)

[stoic otter]

i eat metaphors and other figurative language they taste spicy and texture like pop rocks

[fiery burrow]

🥴

[trim thorn]

yummy

[solemn goblet]

i demand a flea revolution

[proper otter]

what happened in here

[native canyon]

oh my god this is a riot

[fading trail]

I would simply parry the sun

[woven spade]

Someone stop her 😭

[ornate torrent]

aint no way we're still talking abt the same thing

[trim thorn]

guys can we stop being mean to eachother and just go into the whiteward to find medical supplies :)

[stoic otter]

i think fleafather should go vandalize the countryside of a major nation, it helps calm me down too

[vale karma]

Hornet would try to touch Radiance

[polar stag]

you make generalizations without watching 99% of the content, and you don't understand figurative language whatsover

[lean pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8rTXvBSHgzc

[stoic otter]

me too

[fiery burrow]

"Jacob Geller is a pseudointellectual"
"Clearly you don't understand figurative language and metaphor and you also are an idiot"

[native canyon]

"clearly I'm talking to an idiot" 🗣️ 🔥

[fiery burrow]

Kinda proving the point innit

[stoic otter]

this is a logical fallacy

[solemn goblet]

vog must lead the revolution. automaticly flea bigotry exists with how this system of retrival is portrayed. no education for fleas is systemic oppresion.

[fathom echo]

Maybe it’s a similar thing to the Skarr

[polar stag]

someone using figurative language or metaphor when doing literary or media analysis doesn't make them a pseudo intellectual

[fiery burrow]

Also I'm not watching 99% of the content of a dude who I've found pretty consistently uninteresting and annoying

[native canyon]

what the fuck are you cooking and why is it fire

[stoic otter]

vog is a vog which is kinda weird cuz not a flea

[south bobcat]

im cooked :D

[trim thorn]

guys trust we should go to the whiteward for medical supplies trust trust :)

[native canyon]

what do you mean you lost lace? go find her

[south bobcat]

i lost her again

[fiery burrow]

Constantly overanalyzing games and uh... the action of digging a hole is pseudointellectual though

[polar stag]

like how does figurative language in media in anyway make something pseudointellectual? That's a common thing in all forms of media

[stoic otter]

NOOOOO SHERMA DONT GO THERE NOOOOO

[south bobcat]

Frick

[trim thorn]

why is the ground shaking

[fiery burrow]

You haven't even explained what its figurative of

[fathom echo]

SHERMA DONT LEAVE ME HERE

[stoic otter]

i dig holes am i pseudointellectual

[fiery burrow]

You wouldn't get it... Its a metaphor 🚬

[trim thorn]

yes

[stoic otter]

yay :3

[native canyon]

it's provocative

[polar stag]

I'm not gonna go back and watch an entire video for you just to make a point.

[trim thorn]

guys should i become sherma yes or no

[fiery burrow]

You don't even know what you're talking about? 🥴

[stoic otter]

the burden of proof is on the accuser

[solemn goblet]

vog is a flea. she is just one who managed to escape flea-state-mandated institutionalized oppresion of flea education and teach herself basic language. this mindset is propping up bigotry

[fiery burrow]

Yeah just slap on "Its a metaphor" and call it a day

[stoic otter]

vog is a vog but yes the vog

[polar stag]

the video is from 2 fucking years ago I don't remember everything

[stoic otter]

barishkavaaa

[polar stag]

and he is the one who originally accused Jacob Geller of being low-effort slop

[fiery burrow]

Why'd you say its a metaphor then

[polar stag]

because that's a common trend with his content

[solemn goblet]

ever wondered why kratt is never critisized for his crime? less-furry fleas are seen as more worthy, and thus not prosecuted under flea law.

[polar stag]

at least in the titles

he uses figurative language in a lot of his titles

[native canyon]

old fashioned guy, very allegorical

[velvet cape]

Me

[solemn goblet]

hornet is the magical outsider in this instance, coming to save a system. however, instead of assisting to tear doen the system of oppresion, she props it up, dooming the fleas to a life of slavery as pets, never educated, never allowed self-determination.

[native canyon]

😭

[solemn goblet]

hornet is an oppressor

[fathom echo]

Mfs will really discuss ANYTHING but silksong

[velvet cape]

What the fuck happened

[rocky jolt]

all they do is say awoo and play minigames bro

[velvet cape]

Awoooo

[fathom echo]

Have you considered that they prefer a simpler existence

[unique furnace]

Just having a little moment.

[velvet cape]

I wish team cherry had put a flea in the fucking abyss

[trim thorn]

hey guys im gonna go get some medical supplies for the people at songclave, so im going to the whiteward! ill see you guys soon :D

[solemn goblet]

what if thats because they never learned anything else? you continue to be oppressed when no other option isnpresented to you

[velvet cape]

NOO SHERMA DONT GO

[woven spade]

NO SHERMA DONT GO

[unique furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hollow-night-silksong-faridulasimanet-sherma-silksong-gif-171830693794769624

[rocky jolt]

they are basically babies

[velvet cape]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-hank-walter-screaming-walter-yelling-gif-26473309

[fathom echo]

They used the flea brew to ward against the void

[solemn goblet]

self-determination isnt a cocnept when it isnt an educated and free decision

[lean pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bVcRXGpK9bU

[native canyon]

it's a conspiracy, it goes all the way to the top

[trim thorn]

why is the floor shaking

[fiery burrow]

OK I just skimmed through the video's script and it literally makes the point that "The game has good lighting because you ascend stuff and that's powerful"

30 minute video essay btw

[plucky stag]

weirdly enough beating silksong made me change my nine sols rating months after I finished it

[native canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-walter-white-meth-helium-gif-1267768375105767706

[plucky stag]

originally I gave it a 9.5 because I found the start a little bit too difficult

[trim thorn]

where am i :(

[fathom echo]

What game are we even talking about

[graceful oyster]

This is such a beloved video

-# Say my name

[rocky jolt]

the void is coming prepare yo ass sherma

[trim thorn]

what

[stray kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-silk-song-hk-gif-9240133852126752325

[plucky stag]

but since I'm not docking points off silksong for it's difficulty (I gave it a 10/10) I figured it's not fair to dock points for difficulty for any game

[fiery burrow]

Holy snooze fest

[woven spade]

“Guys we don’t NEED to sing. It’s a concept made by big silk to encase a giant ethereal being trapped in a cocoon at the top of the citadel in which they want us trapped there to continue its imprisonment?” -Why couldn’t someone at bone town come up with this? Dumb little bugs

[graceful kayak]

I just beat lost lace for the true ending!!

[stray kayak]

DONT WORRY ILL GET YOU OUT

[trim thorn]

thank you :)

[velvet cape]

Congratulations man

[plucky stag]

it is now safe for you to wade in this channel, congratulations

[velvet cape]

FUCK OFF

[lean pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/face-the-dark-of-the-abyss-gif-3154454233162214481

[native canyon]

FUCK YOU

[plucky stag]

the way I see it, this channel is like the void and beating lost lace is like getting the everbloom

[hallow panther]

Unless they didn’t find the herald

[fathom echo]

Big woop you don’t like his content no need to make that everyone’s problem

[velvet cape]

4 MONTHS CLEAN YOU ASSHOLE

[hexed ingot]

bro just spoiled it for anyone who hasn't (idk how they haven't its been out for like 3 months)

[solemn goblet]

mooksha is the problem. we start at the top. vog is a righful leader for revolt, unexposted to flea bigotry and willing to work for the freedom of all fleas. although still less fluffy, she has longer fur, showing her solidarity in a civilizatopn that oppresses it. she cannot accept the life these fleas are destined to. she is the one who walks away from omelas.

[plucky stag]

if you're in this channel you already know the risks

[fiery burrow]

I didn't make it anyones problem someone else chose to engage with my opinion which is their decision

[plucky stag]

this channel is de facto a postgame discussion channel where nobody marks spoilers

[native canyon]

joining the war on fleas on the side of fleas

[velvet cape]

Lost her everloving mind

[hexed ingot]

real

[fiery burrow]

And its not like disliking something someone else likes is a "problem" in the first place or anything to get worked up over

[fathom echo]

I’m joining the war on lifeblood on the side of Joni

[polar stag]

I have now watched part of the Staring into the Sun video and can give you a general idea of what the point of the video is. Are you actually interested in knowing?

[solemn goblet]

hornet is complacient in the plight if the fleas

[hallow panther]

At least I don’t see many who complain about being spoilered here so far

[trim thorn]

why would the citadel allow such sin in their glorious land? :(

[fiery burrow]

I'm aware of the point of the video

[native canyon]

clearly differing opinions are a debate to be won 🙄

[solemn goblet]

no im avoiding writing an essay

[polar stag]

can you tell me then?

[solemn goblet]

i am instead theorizing abiut oppression in flea society

[velvet cape]

I would read it

[native canyon]

write the essay,,,

[polar stag]

what do you think the point of it is if you have actually watched it?

[fiery burrow]

He's discussing how lighting can be used to enhance the feeling of ascent

[solemn goblet]

theres also a level if neglect that comes with losing fleas in the first place

[native canyon]

how long is this video?

[fiery burrow]

30 minutes

[native canyon]

💀

[fiery burrow]

Its not a bad observation its just full of filler

[soft belfry]

Apparently fleas only gather when there is a travel and they occasionally leave when there isn't any plans? Or I misunderstood

[solemn goblet]

idk but it is nearing 11:59 pm and i must write an essay

[native canyon]

writing essays at midnight

[solemn goblet]

goodbye silksong main

[polar stag]

that's part of it but in general I was gonna say how lighting is used to paint different settings in different ways/the style it aims for. The mood/atmosphere created by it through use of different colors and hues.

[lean pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-silksong-trobbio-trobbio-trobbio-dance-dance-gif-498385529010938217

[native canyon]

bye

[solemn goblet]

due 11:59 so if i start now i have 3 hours

[fiery burrow]

Indeed

[trim thorn]

found this sad lil easter egg

[fathom echo]

Admittedly BoTW doesn’t seem like a very good choice to discuss such a concept

[native canyon]

botw has some good lighting

[fiery burrow]

Well its TOTK which does focus quite a bit on verticality and is also beautifully well lit

[dull gull]

literally just a part of the quest not easter egg

[fiery burrow]

In particular he discusses the wind temple ascent

[trim thorn]

i was talking about the dialogue and the change in his voice dude. :(

[polar stag]

I believe he also discusses Cyberpunk, Last Guardian and maybe other but I do think the lighting in Botw is very good. It aims to create a very naturalistic look on otherwise very graphically limited hardware

[native canyon]

better than the actual dungeon itself

[dull gull]

i think it's still present right after he returns to the top

[fiery burrow]

In vibes only its pretty barebones gameplay wise

[fathom echo]

I hope he did DL2

[trim thorn]

ill check it out

[fiery burrow]

Definitely a highlight of the game though

[polar stag]

what is DL 2?

[fathom echo]

Dying light 2

[fair cradle]

Hwo to remove superglue from hands

[old gorge]

cant

[native canyon]

idk

[polar stag]

Idk if that is a game he's discussed before. I think he's discussed the first one in a video or 2.

[fair cradle]

Mb mesnt to googl

[fathom echo]

How are you typing this

[native canyon]

cut off your hands

[old gorge]

feet

[lean pendant]

Protip: If you're doing well in a gauntlet or boss fight and you haven't taken any damage so far, do not say "Wow, I'm boutta do this hitless!" because then you'll jinx it and get hit a few seconds later.

[median ivy]

dont superglue your hands in the first place

[stark kestrel]

i just killed double fourth chorus

[unique furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/normal-day-lame-tortoise-slow-motion-gif-14355433

[old gorge]

Protip: If you're doing bad in a gauntlet or boss fight and you have taken any damage so far, say "Wow, I'm boutta do this hitless!" because then you won't jinx it and you won't get hit a few seconds later.

[stark kestrel]

it took me like half an hour bruh holy crap

[unique furnace]

Me when I get a new crest and it removes anklets

[lean pendant]

Use warm water with soap.

[lean pendant]

Use warm water with soap.

[old gorge]

yeah its my favourite optional late game boss

[leaden delta]

tip don’t do hitless gauntlets in tc games because it sucks sad

[stark kestrel]

double enemies is actually a top tier mod

[leaden delta]

It consistently sucks ass

[old gorge]

Protip: Don't play Silksong

[polar stag]

I'm willing to admit is is my fault for getting into this argument in the first place. It is pretty pointless in hindsight lol. I just have a tendency to get defensive about things I enjoy and am prone to argument when I see people shitting on things I like

[native canyon]

TRUE

I've shackled myself to coral tower for eternity

[stark kestrel]

2x enemies is at least twice as fun as normal silksong

[dense harness]

My friend and I made this tierlist of all of the bosses in the hollow knight series]

[fathom echo]

Literally why does it replace your crest every time like at least give me a choice

[native canyon]

first sinner above pure vessel 💀

[fading trail]

Next time just reply with this

[leaden delta]

first sinner in top 1 ???????

[rocky jolt]

obbobbles ''good fight''

[native canyon]

tormented trobbio top 5 🥴

[dense harness]

first sinner made me cry tears of joy

[clever cliff]

I was the friend he made it with

[native canyon]

how the fuck is normal radiance above absrad

[stark kestrel]

i'm gonna fight double greymoor next

[clever cliff]

just feels better to fight

[dense harness]

cause abserrad can just choose that you die

[leaden delta]

wait is that tierlist ordered

[polar stag]

🙁

[delicate tendon]

gng pls help ll is bodying me

[clever cliff]

YAY WE SET THE CHANNEL ON FIRE!

[leaden delta]

Because trobbio in 5th is utter lunacy if so

[fiery burrow]

I have a lot of nitpicks but its agreeable I think

[fickle sage]

elder hu same tier as raging conchfly is a sin

[old gorge]

great conchflies 1 above conchflies 2??

[polar stag]

oh wait I only saw the image and thought you were blowing me off. I didn't read the comment

[fathom echo]

Volt shaman cross stitch

[native canyon]

trobbio is 4th, normal radiance is 5th

[delicate tendon]

where do I get shaman crest

[median ivy]

do yall think theres actual bugs out here simping over hornet while there are other bugs saying “shes not real go get an actual mate”

[dense harness]

raging conch flies was not my decision

[clever cliff]

Architect’s technique, cogfly purple

[trim thorn]

man i sure do love the citadel i hope nothing bad happens

[fathom echo]

Ruined chapel

[clever cliff]

yes it was you deceitful entity

[polar stag]

yeah that's probably a good idea

[old gorge]

In SIlksong

[leaden delta]

Oh so it’s WORSE

[lean pendant]

Chat, opinion on metacognition?

[fathom echo]

Silksoar in the far right

[agile wren]

i am a shaman quest stan now

[lavish zephyr]

Highkey an actually based tierlist???

[delicate tendon]

ik that, I just cant figure out how to get it in there

[leaden delta]

ykw maybe I need to post mine again cuz

[dense harness]

THANK YOU

[old gorge]

Big flea is a boss, invalid tierlist. See me after class twin 😠

[clever cliff]

pfp suits you gng /j

[dense harness]

aw man

[native canyon]

I need to make a full series tier list anyone got a format

[agile trellis]

who knows a silksong mobile port

[dense harness]

i wished they had the craggler in here

[leaden delta]

cuz wow.
anyways gh with challenges considered. ordered

[leaden delta]

uhhh maybe I can history search the tierlist in a few minutes

[agile wren]

Pls tell me that raging conchfly has a better runback

[velvet cape]

Sorry

It doesnt

[dense harness]

nope

[clever cliff]

please tell me this is satire

[old gorge]

everytime you die ur save file gets erased and u gotta start over

[trim thorn]

THE COLLECTOR OVER HORNET???

[lavish zephyr]

Well not really, its either you go from the karak bench or from vellbeast w/ the shortcut

[timid peak]

act two here i come...

[dense harness]

genuine ragenbait i loe it

[median ivy]

last judge is the goat

[native canyon]

based and nylethpilled

[lavish zephyr]

Its p good ill give it that

[old gorge]

Get OUT of this channel dude 😭 Theres so many spoilers

[leaden delta]

Oh it’s not ragebait I am dead serious. if I wanted to make people mad intentionally I would not need to make shit up

[fathom echo]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/UPgOhHefZBM

[crisp thicket]

zango isn't a boss

[lavish zephyr]

I can tell

[trim thorn]

guys true or false there are two ways to enter the citadel

[native canyon]

the best ragebait is niche opinions

[crisp thicket]

Yes

[timid peak]

oh wow you totally ignored the fact i spoilered the image and here you come ruffling my sleeves as if i didnt do anything to spoiler it! Ooh look i even said "act 2" what a keyword!

[old gorge]

@delicate tendon this is fake dont trust em

[lavish zephyr]

True, i went the other way the first time i played

[frosty light]

woah

[crisp thicket]

he meant that as in this channel is unspoilered

[trim thorn]

no YOU ARE GOING TO GET SPOILERS PLEASE LEAVE GOOO

[dense harness]

zango is literally a boss

[trim thorn]

false...

[tight viper]

Good handful of things I disagree with

[dense harness]

they have their own title and everything

[trim thorn]

more of a miniboss

[timid peak]

Lmao I lowk spoiler myself so i know where to go next 😭

[keen solstice]

Zango is just beast crest punching bag

[crisp thicket]

so does the choir

[old gorge]

what?? I'm saying theres a lot of spoilers in this channel, and that you should stay clear if you dont want to get spoiled

[hexed marsh]

need some help

[trim thorn]

STILL THEY GONNA SPOIL THINGS YOU DIDNT THINK ABOUT PLEASEEEE

[lavish zephyr]

He kinda is bcs of the absurd health and regen, but without the phial hes basically a dps test

[leaden delta]

hornet is like p good it’s a good fight it just doesn’t peak like collector does when you start doing anything that isn’t low gear

[dense harness]

i dont make the rules gang team cherry made him a boss

[fiery burrow]

That's every boss WHERE MY BEASTBROS AT #BEASTMODE 🦅

[crisp thicket]

Talk to sprint master Taylor swift

[halcyon charm]

🔥
Since Lace is on the left side I assume you went through The Mist?

[tight viper]

He shouldn't be a boss, but he is

[spare fractal]

hey I know this isn't ss-help, but can anyone give me advice for the updated gurr the outcast fight? I'm playing steel soul and I don't wanna lose my run to him

[dense harness]

i dont really care if he is or isnt i just know he is

[trim thorn]

give up!

[hallow panther]

By being in this channel it’s implied they consent to the risk of being spoilered

[native canyon]

#BEASTMODE

[trim thorn]

oghhh...

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-hollow-knight-silksong-silk-song-beast-gif-9367053390976142979

[crisp thicket]

nvm

[old gorge]

doesnt he just twirl out spikes faster?

[lavish zephyr]

Wait they updated him? No wonder i remember him throwing the spike things instead of spinning

[leaden delta]

and like collector actually is good. stop full gearing

[crisp thicket]

Talk to Seth and beat him in the mini games

[plucky stag]

just the fact that you can tell which way somebody entered the citadel just from where lace is

[fathom echo]

Hunter memento is from nuu after completing the journal the other is from sprint master swift

[leaden delta]

And don’t play on 1.4 bc aspids can insta spit

[native canyon]

same thing as always tbh, just a bit faster, I'd recommend shaman crest with sharpdart and volt filament

[timid peak]

yeah,,, blasted steps was a pain and lowk did NOT wanna fight last judge so I went phantom route

[lavish zephyr]

Same

[main turret]

It's honestly really annoying how erratically all the craws move >->

[halcyon charm]

When you’ve played silksong for a bit you know a lot about where everything and everyone is at any time

[native canyon]

what's the format you used for this

[dense harness]

hold up i can send it

[lavish zephyr]

For you maybe

[plucky stag]

yep

[spare fractal]

I already struggle with regular gurr the outcast because of his stupid traps... is there any way to get rid of them or do I just need to wait them out?

[trim thorn]

true or false, you can see a member of shakras clan in hollow knight

[dense harness]

https://tiermaker.com/create/hollow-knight-and-silksong-bosses-1110440?downloadedImage=true

[native canyon]

you can hit them to activate them sooner

[timid peak]

Me personally I HATE fire and dealing with it, so phantom was much more funner and easier for me.

[dense harness]

here is the format

[plucky stag]

i beat pre-buff gurr on my first try after coming in prepared

[tight viper]

False because it's unconfirmed

[plucky stag]

i have no idea what post-buff gurr does

[trim thorn]

i mean yeah but thats not very funny

[keen solstice]

Craws when i show them the comically oversized hitbox on beast crest needle strike:

[spare fractal]

yeah I know that, but 9 times out of 10 I don't get away from them in time and just take damage

[trim thorn]

i mean your wrong and right ig

[fading trail]

He just throws traps out faster, they're still easy to deal with

[lavish zephyr]

Highkey huge flea is NOT a boss bcs
A. No title
B. Only one attack
C. Collection quest

[graceful kayak]

Oh thats not allowed on here

[keen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

[native canyon]

this is why I recommended sharpdart

[trim thorn]

i no tell

[dense harness]

i put it in not a boss tier gang

[halcyon charm]

Me going through bilewater

[leaden delta]

true or false spells are directional for some fucking reason

[lavish zephyr]

Ik but i saw the description and i just had to say it

[spare fractal]

...wait.
sharpdart triggers the traps?

[dense harness]

i didnt make the format

[native canyon]

it can phase you through the traps easily

[lean pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-wwe-funny-wwe-wwe-scream-scream-if-you-love-new-jersey-gif-13423427661416001279

[lavish zephyr]

Any non tool dmg does iirc

[native canyon]

I forgot if it does trigger them but it probably does

[frosty light]

🤭 the D word 🤭🤭

[tight viper]

Can't remember which side of ddark does more but yeah

[leaden delta]

Right

[tight viper]

Right as in the side or right as in correct

[leaden delta]

side

[trim thorn]

true or false, i have so many rosarys like so many do you wanna share i can buy you some apple juioce

[timid peak]

😼

[leaden delta]

by 5. bc tc sucks at coding

[main turret]

Oh, that's kinda lame, this thing says it absolves me of all crimes but the Craws are still coming after me >->

[pastel plank]

I accidentally knocked Phantom out of the arena when harpooning them

[native canyon]

trolled

[main turret]

I thought it would be like the mantises becoming friendly in the original after you beat the Mantis Lords

[pastel plank]

haaaai Sherma

[timid peak]

gonna admit, i lowk got stuck on that craw room for awhile, and went to do different areas. I only came back because it had a area I needed to go to 😭

[trim thorn]

haiiii :)

[tight viper]

Probably just because of haunted vs. non-haunted

[lavish zephyr]

guys what does this mean

[hasty spruce]

red memory so peak brought a tear to my eye

[tight viper]

can't remember if the jurors in the arena are or aren't haunted, I think they are not

[pastel plank]

I've seen this but haven't watched it

[timid peak]

She is coming

[zealous nimbus]

You’ll figure out after 34 minutes and 9 seconds of watching the video I presume

[native canyon]

had like an hour long discourse about jacob geller because I mentioned this video lol

[leaden delta]

thats awesome what was it about

[lavish zephyr]

right after I watch this tho

[pastel plank]

Silksong was promised to us 999999999 ago

[pastel plank]

I'VE SEEN THIS TOO I saved it gotta watch it

[timid peak]

Now, i think this person may be going insane, though I shouldnt judge a book by its cover.

[pastel plank]

Hasn't she yet? Is she close?

[lavish zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/cory-cory-x-kenshin-cory-side-turning-meme-meme-turn-gif-750329713875275073

[pastel plank]

ma bad

[lean pendant]

Fun Fact: Trobbio has 77 voicelines

[pastel plank]

Pov you're Widow and are getting your face ripped apart

[trim thorn]

how do i get over there i wanna see trobio preform :)

[native canyon]

god there's so many bosses in the hollow knight series ranking them takes forever

[pastel plank]

the show sold out I believe

[trim thorn]

:(

[fathom echo]

I believe he’s hiring for a stagehand

[pastel plank]

gotta do it

[unique furnace]

Play more music and he might hire you on.

[trim thorn]

oh mi god

[raw pawn]

I did the surface climb with architects pogo

[pastel plank]

You don't need to hear this poser, you sing infinite times better

[trim thorn]

:)

[pastel plank]

bless your soul

[light swan]

so did i the first time

architect pogo is so fun

[fathom echo]

At least it wasn’t beast pogo

[light swan]

so is beast pogo

[unique furnace]

You should be able to shoot the rosary cannon downward for flight.

[light swan]

beast pogo was also fun too, i did it the second time when i was used to it

[pastel plank]

thank god

[light swan]

😔 😔 im truly pensive rn

[raw pawn]

😔

[light swan]

and why are we
turning it into a competition now just to start crestist discourse

[stark kestrel]

i have tried not to consider the presentation

wait why is lugoli in good he should be in annoying

[light swan]

lugoli was so fun

[unique furnace]

Noobs debate which crest is best. Pros debate what crest discourse meta is best.

[frank grotto]

Did Silksong get updated again? I went into Xbox and it said it was updating

[lean pendant]

When's Silksong kaizo mod coming out?

[stark kestrel]

its already out im p sure

[undone gate]

I found lugoli more annoying than fun

[lean pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-silksong-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-hornet-analyse-ts-gif-11974249504599962130

[light swan]

lugoli was my first 5 hp barbed bracelet boss, shit was exhilarating and awesome

predicting their attacks based on how they float, luring it out, punishing in the windows making max use of sawtooth circlet

[stark kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/lugoli-gif-12776754665265756599

[native canyon]

ugh now I've gotta order the tiers 😭

[trim thorn]

can i be in it

[hallow panther]

Since there’s a tier list, guess what this one is tiered on. Hint: it’s based on something more objective

[unique furnace]

should be the other way around

[frosty light]

me cracking open the kinder egg

[trim thorn]

AGH OW MY BONES OW OOF OWIE MY BONES AHHHH

[light swan]

cutest top ugliest bottom

[plush eagle]

Its just me or the Grand mother silk’s crown have the same shape of hornet’s head in the deleted ending?

[tight viper]

That isn't Hornet in that cutscene

[frosty light]

ye she fuckin eats hormet imstead of the other way around

[plush eagle]

So,its the Grand Mother silk?

[hallow panther]

It’s tiered based on the visible size of their mouth

[frosty light]

Grander Mother Silkiest...

[light swan]

crawther should be C tier i disagree with your more objective list

[sweet thistle]

What is cuter grubs or fleas

[plush eagle]

Ok,but now I repared other thing…

[sweet thistle]

baby caterpillars or cute little furballs

[plush eagle]

In her neck

[light swan]

grubs taste good i want to skin fleas

[rocky mirage]

well yeah the implication is that hornet and gms fuse into one being

[plush eagle]

Its similar to Hornet’s cloak

[unique furnace]

Just a lore thought: All the weavers are sisters, but the pharlids from which the weavers are created are a species which seems to be able to procreate. Did GMS selectively ascend ONLY female pharlids so that none of her offspring could procreate, to limit their power?

[gaunt bronze]

twisted child done in the speed run
speed and run are split

[trim thorn]

hmmmm maybe i dont know :)

[tawny dome]

Arcane egg

[plush eagle]

O think only first sinner is a pharlid,and other are other tiny Creatures which GMS mutated

[unique furnace]

Hornet says she feels kinship with the pharlids, which would imply Herrah was also from Pharlid.

[fiery burrow]

And all weavers look pretty similar to FS barring the spiky head

[plush eagle]

You are right

[fiery burrow]

Widow being an exception because she's mutilated and Herrah being an exception because she's a retcon

[raw pawn]

I think first sinner was against the other weavers?

[trim thorn]

i thought the spikey had was because there mask was forcibly smashed open

[fiery burrow]

No you can see she was just created like that

[plush eagle]

And all the other weavers in deepnest,

[frosty light]

i still wonder if gms just made a single fucking weaver out of a pharlid and then 98 out of diving pharlooms and whatever fat bat pharlid that herrah was

[fiery burrow]

Those don't seem to be canon anymore

[raw pawn]

Other weavers look like that in hornet's memory

[unique furnace]

I assumed the other weavers in deepnest were born of herrah

[rocky jolt]

guys wtf are the little weavers from the first game

[frosty light]

diving pharlids* the rounder ones

[fiery burrow]

?

[spring heath]

Y'all seen this video? Great discussion on the religion story in Silksong: https://youtu.be/Rp-gPD_-RM4?si=Gv5_eoysR7D-IM9R

[plush eagle]

With other normals creatures I guess

[unique furnace]

Is a good discussion, ye

[raw pawn]

Nvm your right 😭

[unique furnace]

Yeah, that is what I thought

[frosty light]

what if theyre not children of weavers and theyre called little weavers because literally just the smaller bunch of them and they got infected first because uuuuuuuhhhhh

[unique furnace]

The charm is even called Weaversong. The song element to weavers was already a part of their culture before Silksong.

[plush eagle]

Like stalker devout

[fiery burrow]

Little Weavers don't produce soul silk either

They were frauds ever since the grimm troupe

[frosty light]

btw why tf did this weirdo have white eyes

[unique furnace]

Stalking devout makes it clear that it is a mask over a different sort of creature.

[tight viper]

Little Weavers are probably just hallucinations by an arachnaphobic Knight

[fiery burrow]

Because HK was ugly af

[tight viper]

Uninfected

[unique furnace]

Like midwife

[plush eagle]

Yeah

[rocky jolt]

beta weavers

[fiery burrow]

Stalking devout "masks" are their claws

[astral dagger]

today's shawing:

[frosty light]

look rad forgot to program in the fucking "eat something literally anything" into them its not their fault theyve got basically no extra soul lying around left

[unique furnace]

Nonweaving Spiders that bred with Herrah to produce Weavers in half part, like hornet (except their other half was normie instead of higher being)

[supple thunder]

Im so afraid of where bro is taking me

[tight viper]

Be not afraid

[frosty light]

but then why does every other weaver have black eyes

[tawny dome]

Bossfight

[plush eagle]

…

[tight viper]

retcon or something

[plush eagle]

Retcon:)

[unique furnace]

Perhaps the white is to denote that it is pure of intention.

[astral dagger]

act 3 char i assume?

[mental arch]

arent they dead

[unique furnace]

Doesn't Herrah in the Red Memory have white eyes?

[raw pawn]

Someone survived in flea dodge for more than 1 hour 😭

[frosty light]

what the fuck are they retconning, that one of them had access to colored contact lenses?????

[plush eagle]

No

[mental arch]

her face is hidden

[tight viper]

Blurry mask, so the eyes on the mask are black but the eyes underneath are unknown

[frosty light]

no but we dont see her facemaskthingy anyway

[native canyon]

why are we saying a design change is a retcon

[plush eagle]

Its the same face

[raw pawn]

Bro let's stop talking about those things

[unique furnace]

mb

[tight viper]

They no longer have glowing eyes that can shoot lasers

[native canyon]

true..

[frosty light]

team cherry is trying to CONCEAL the fact that weavers could canonically fire laser beams from their eyes its clear as uhhh as the eyes

[deft thistle]

dawg where the fuck is this shellwood boss im getting pissed off i just want a pollen heart and i have been SCOWERING shellwood UNABLE TO FIND this FUCKING BOSS like

WHERE IS THIS BITCH BRO

[tight viper]

We're on the same wavelength so we must be right

[frosty light]

holy shit two people thought of it simultaneously; that must mean its true!

[rocky jolt]

gate

[tight viper]

Grand gate

[fiery burrow]

Redesigns are retcons

[unique furnace]

Garruma past her lol

[plush eagle]

Its not in shell wood

[frosty light]

OMG

[deft thistle]

BRO WHY IS IT IN GRAND GATE 💔

[frosty light]

[supple thunder]

I am sorry little one...

[deft thistle]

IN WHAT UNIVERSE AM I GONNA SEARCH GRAND GATE WHAT

[plush eagle]

I don’t know

[fiery burrow]

Why would they redesign the weavers to not be ugly af they ruined the lore

[unique furnace]

I mean, it's kind of in underworks really.

[heady iron]

fan service

[raw pawn]

I like crawfather boss fight

[tight viper]

Gorb wishes he could do shit like this

[deft thistle]

ts pmo

[plush eagle]

But in lore have sense

[fiery burrow]

Finding Nyleth blind is my biggest flex

[plucky stag]

i just found it by complete chance

i just wanted to look for void masses to get the dark hearts sidequest going, and boom

[spring heath]

hot take: silksong is about capitalism being a form of religion.

[plucky stag]

i found seth and nyleth, completely on my own

[mental arch]

it does def have an underlying theme of late stage capitalism

[light swan]

i found nyleth on my own too

[fiery burrow]

Silksong doesn't have capitalism but OK

[raw pawn]

Isn't it funny that the weaver charm in hollow knight was called weaversong

[mental arch]

elaborate

[light swan]

i thought i could get to the top of the elevator and it’s near the pollen heart so i should try

[vivid knot]

remember the time when people thought hornet and grimm were related because of the delver's drill attack looking similar to a grimm pose

[plush eagle]

A lot

[tight viper]

If you look left from the broken elevator after it drops, you'll see a gate covered in vines and shit that resembles what you might see in shellwood. Of course, you and me and lots of other players were too busying thinking "holy shit I'm at one hp I gotta find a bench" and forgot about that little detail

[spring heath]

ok you didnt play the game thats ok

[deft thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/there-is-no-war-in-ba-sing-se-avatar-the-last-airbender-atla-no-war-there-is-no-war-gif-15884087966518847999

[frosty light]

ok then why dont half of them look like first sinner huh also no it couldve been sick it wouldve just been like uhhh uh like gms forcing them to keep their eyes closed for her aesthetic preferences (like a CERTAIN SOMEONE) and something something theyre blinded from the truth or whatever

[unique furnace]

WRONG

Mort is absolutely capitalist.

[plucky stag]

and i think finding that old heart that way helped me to find karmelita

[fiery burrow]

Pharloom doesn't have private property its simply not capitalist (TC are wusses who don't want to critique that system)

[unique furnace]

The "rental" of benches in Underworks is also capitalist

[heady iron]

https://tenor.com/view/book-water-water-writing-water-book-his-writing-is-water-writing-gif-10086019317602352185

[plucky stag]

if the clue suggested shellwood but you go in through grand gate, maybe the other heart is in far fields but you enter through another area

[spring heath]

i literally own a bell house

[unique furnace]

It ain't capitalism until you start farming it for money though with a crawnest.

[plush eagle]

……….

[native canyon]

pharloom should've simulated the 2008 housing crisis

[frosty light]

its called a bellgome

[vivid knot]

The weird rusty hole in the side of your house is gonna make the property value EXPLODE trust

[spring heath]

you dont have to participate in capitalism for the world to be capitalist

[frosty light]

:gnome: wait how is there no gnome emoji

[plucky stag]

unfortunately i didn't extend that logic to the fleas and ended up leaving the underworks and ducts fleas on the table and needed hints for that

[frosty light]

what the fuck

[vivid knot]

oh. weird.

[plucky stag]

maybe it was the fact that the entrances themselves were too well hidden for me to find by myself despite multiple combs

[frosty light]

jngo if you dont mind answering are you working on a vespa mod

[unique furnace]

Most people are not exacting rent from private property, with the exception of the Underworks. A currency system is not the same as capitalism.

[fiery burrow]

🥴