sk-discussion

[orchid locust]

the godfather gets shot in the godfather

[stark kestrel]

the title of act 3 is literally godfist suicide

[light swan]

this kinda barely works but atp its slower tbh @arctic epoch

[graceful oyster]

Inscryption Spoilers: the player character is an NPC and its all fake

[light swan]

at the end of undertale einsten was the real murderer

[marsh spoke]

act 4 will be called devilleg revival trust me on this 🔥

[fathom echo]

Ok I’m leaving before someone actually spoils a game I care about

[native canyon]

my favorite line in the godfather is when he says "I'm the godfather!"

[light swan]

in silksong someone loses their shoelace

[stark kestrel]

the mice transform in transformice

[tight viper]

Mario is shot and killed at the end of Super Mario Odyssey

[light swan]

my favorite line in xenoblade is "Here it is... the legendary Xenoblade..."

[graceful oyster]

Rain World spoilers: rain

[native canyon]

and then he xenoblade'd all over the place

[fathom echo]

Jokes on you I’ve literally never played a Mario or Pokémon game

[main turret]

"Oh damn, there's another boss in Deep Docks"

"Oh, hey, he has Fourth Chorus' theme!"

"Oh god there's two of them"

[native canyon]

if they're the forebrothers why are there only two of them

[light swan]

Pokemon dies at the end of his legendary journey

[tight viper]

Well yeah, he's dead now there's no more Mario games to play smh

[plucky stag]

now i feel like hornet at the start of act 3

[astral dagger]

https://www.tumblr.com/hollowknightyuri/799587714890661888
WHAT

[fathom echo]

Fun fact if you kill the first one quick enough it changes the title of the next

[plucky stag]

just immediate regret at what i've just unleashed while also taking full responsibility for ruining things

[marsh spoke]

fun fact if you kill the first one quick enough every fucking enemy spawns at the same time

[plucky stag]

sorry for being a random landmine

[stark kestrel]

this doesn't seem like optimal speedrun route cuz i've done lace in like sub 21

[fathom echo]

Can we please get the option to skip hornets period cramps in subsequent playthroughs

[orchid locust]

this speedrun is to end the lace fight with an empty flea brew bottle (hence, beer bottle%)

[astral dagger]

Look at the % name

[graceful oyster]

I got Signis fast enough Gron came out when the Cymbal guy was supposed to and I got hella jumpscared because I was waiting below the drop point

[plucky stag]

or maybe even skip the tutorial like they do in nine sols

[stark kestrel]

beer bottle % 😭

[plucky stag]

i'm pretty sure nine sols speedruns start you right after the opening cutscene and offsets the time

[marsh spoke]

why does hornet have the heart disease at the start of the game anyway the fall cannot have been that bad

[velvet cape]

What was the whole deal with that anyways

[fathom echo]

Hornet just gets ping ponged directly in front of chapelmaid

[tight viper]

She's allergic to moss

[raven onyx]

Is nine sols worth playing? It seems like its short and mainly just fight gameplay (not so big in lore)

[native canyon]

hey here's a somewhat related fun fact: if you kill the first karak gor in coral tower's third gauntlet before the accompanying alita spawns, the wave will transition and the spikes will kill the alita, but the kicker is this also makes the spikes despawn for some reason

[plucky stag]

absolutely, yes

[hybrid yew]

76!?!?!? i HATE HATE HATE this game and love it

[velvet cape]

Its a hard game

[raven onyx]

Well, here goes my other 20 bucks. Thank you for the reply

[velvet cape]

Harder than sk

[orchid locust]

i think it’s the effects of being in that rune cage for so long or something

[velvet cape]

Well if you suck at parries it is hard

[clear delta]

Are the alitas lobsters/crayfish?

[stark kestrel]

unbelievable fall ngl how did she survive that

[raven onyx]

Silksong was easy for me.

[velvet cape]

She has those at the beginning of act 3

[plucky stag]

plot armor

[tight viper]

She's a spider

[native canyon]

she had a water bucket

[fathom echo]

Especially if you’re like that one guy who skipped the tutorial and completely ignored one of the games key mechanics

[candid kayak]

"I was a long time spent captive, bound by seals strange to me. My strength is diminished, but recoverable."

[summer sigil]

Chat for this steelsoul run should I risk it and try to get the pale oil and get my ass handed to me by an ass (Lugoli) or just skip the pale oil entirely

[cold veldt]

and theres a steel cage weighing her down

[velvet cape]

Thats gotta be me

[plucky stag]

assuming you're just going for any%, don't

[fathom echo]

Just get vault one atp

[velvet cape]

I should start fresh the game

[summer sigil]

fair enough

[candid kayak]

injury (beyond simple game mechanic HP)

[plucky stag]

because it's not a question if you're going for steel heart

[native canyon]

you need both if you want steel heart

[fathom echo]

He forgot about the instakill charm thing

[raven onyx]

The boss isnt that hard, maybe you could fight it on your other file first to refresh your memory of the attacks?

[native canyon]

lugoli's attacks are pretty easy to dodge yeah

[summer sigil]

maybe hmmm

[candid kayak]

binding can recover wounds but that doesn't mean it can cure headaches

[velvet cape]

For the fall? If thats the case she has fallen more times (underworks) and all that happened was she getting one health

[tight viper]

How would a bug die from a fall anyways

[marsh spoke]

fascinating

[velvet cape]

You would die from a fall.tbf

[tight viper]

I would, but I'm way, way larger than a bug

[candid kayak]

unfortunately for them, they aren't real world sized bugs
gravity is far less forgiving

zote has an entire precept about this

[velvet cape]

No you are tiny you bug sized

[marsh spoke]

i would survive that

[cold veldt]

hornet shouldve gotten drifters cloak before the events of silksong

[native canyon]

this is bullshit lugoli is literally referred to with they/them in the dialogue with loyal mergwin

[candid kayak]

Precept Thirty-Eight: Beware the mysterious force

[fathom echo]

Ass Jim you mean

[velvet cape]

LOL

[candid kayak]

lugoli's pronouns are Ass/Jim

[raven onyx]

Hm, some of them carry armour, could it make them heavy enough to take damage

[native canyon]

right right mb

[plucky stag]

the translations are literally only because some languages have gendered everything

[marsh spoke]

erm... translations in languages without any gender neutral pronouns disagree

[fathom echo]

Pointlessly gendered dialect

[candid kayak]

also bugs in hollow knight can weigh down pressure plates

[plucky stag]

like in spanish, you have la mesa and el banco

[cerulean sable]

what if hornet can slam the ground and cause an earthquake that stuns everyone infrotn ofh er for 2.7 seconds...

[candid kayak]

shaman bind buff real

[raven onyx]

Because they were designed for bugs, right

[candid kayak]

no damage, it just makes everyone else fall over

[tight viper]

Likely negligible, terminal velocity wouldn't suddenly become fatal for an ant if you designed ant-sized armor

[cerulean sable]

exactly

[candid kayak]

they'd have to be unbelievably sensitive if we assume hollow knight's creatures are the size of irl bugs

[tight viper]

Have any creatures in either game died from fall damage?

[candid kayak]

yes I fell on them with desolate dive

[clear delta]

Interestingly the translations are actually split on this. A bunch of them use masculine terms (standin for gender neutral) if needed and avoid gendering lugoli otherwise and some js go with feminine

[native canyon]

deffo a bug but a rather interesting one, I'd try to get a clip of it but I'd rather just get coral tower over and done with

[void moat]

sk-discussion give me a sk/hk character to draw in 10s

[native canyon]

based italian???

[clear delta]

Any usage of they/them is gender neutral in Italian methinks

[candid kayak]

lugoli is actually so fucking funny to me, like

for their crimes, instead of being sent to the underworks or the slab, the citadel just said "Get out."

[orchid locust]

i'm convinced team cherry js used random pronouns in different languages to watch the discourse 😭

[candid kayak]

lmfao

[vivid belfry]

truly the Yarnaby of their field

[clear delta]

It was up to translators

[candid kayak]

LOL TRUE

[native canyon]

phantom is debatably nb, last judge is not gendered correctly in-game, but here comes motherfucking ass jim being one of the actual definitive enby characters for some reason

[marsh spoke]

i mean sinner's road is probably called sinner's road for a reason it's still got cages and shit

[clear delta]

Honestly it fits them so well vibes wise I dig it

[candid kayak]

lugoli's gender actually changes in real time depending on their location

[urban robin]

Thats the ass jim difference

[marsh spoke]

they probably just made lugoli cook muckroaches as an eternal punishment or something

[native canyon]

I think they actually enjoy it...

[main turret]

The area of the docks directly after the Forebrothers is so far harder than the Forebrothers were lol

[stiff briar]

Ass Jamie?

[marsh spoke]

maybe but icl they probably miss cooking them with pale oil and shit (which is probably what got them kicked out)

[clear delta]

Weirdest translation tidbit I probably know is that Lumble is a woman in like literally EVERY translation and recent patches only doubled down on this

[native canyon]

actually they definitively enjoy cooking with those hideous creatures it's their fucking speciality 😭

[stiff briar]

they probably used frozen crab cakes (real ones will know)

[candid kayak]

when lugoli goes to spain they become female, then non-binary once they cross into france

[fathom echo]

It’s called that because it’s the path pilgrims who have sinned take to the citadel to avoid last judge. Which is why it leads directly to underworks

[wispy girder]

its just the bell bomber guys icl

[wooden gust]

I lowkey want a full architect melody track

[marsh spoke]

home caves
oh ok that explains it

[native canyon]

it leads to choral chambers

[clear delta]

It's kinda like that one island whose ownership changes every 6 months except actually it's not at all

[wooden gust]

Like wouldn't that be fire?

[native canyon]

grand gate leads to underworks

ignore that

[candid kayak]

implies they lived there for a time, then went to the citadel (SURELY NOT THROUGH THE GATE???), then got kicked out after some time

[fathom echo]

Blasted steps does, im talking about sinners road

[clear delta]

I don't feel like anyone actually goes through sinners road to the citadel and the name has a different in universe explanation while also being a meta thing

[marsh spoke]

they served the previous last judge pickled muckmaggot that's how they got past

[native canyon]

blasted steps leads to grand gate which leads to underworks, sinner's road leads to exhaust organ which leads to choral chambers

[candid kayak]

LMAO

[clear delta]

Cuz like
How the fuck are the pilgrims making it past the mist
And then there's still phantom
And then the actual entrance to the citadel is weird and hidden

[steep slate]

hi

[candid kayak]

poisoned

[marsh spoke]

phantom probably doesn't gaf ngl

[native canyon]

grand gate does have the choral chambers entrance but that's obviously unofficial

[stiff briar]

screw the pilgrims, how are the fleas making it in

[fathom echo]

Literally if you don’t go in the elevator grand gate goes to CC and the elevator after phantom is straight to underworks

[marsh spoke]

too busy shredding Riffe That Will Make Your Cleanwater Bile

[clear delta]

So why do they attack hornet

[steep slate]

i have a problem with silksong where the ingame paper map is just blank and wont show anything when i press LB on controller. can someone help?

[clear delta]

Fleas use the power of the z axis or something

[fathom echo]

Boredom

[marsh spoke]

hornet can fight and they wanna die in a fight

[native canyon]

you need to break the wall to enter cc through gg, I doubt any pilgrims immediately went there upon reaching the citadel

[candid kayak]

I don't think any pilgrims actually attempted to pass through the exhaust organ
it's so far off the beaten path, and no way any pilgrims would've made it through the mist anyway

[native canyon]

they wanna kill themselves

[steep slate]

can someone help me fix the problem???

[candid kayak]

hell, a common pilgrim would probably choke to death in the mist, lets be real

[clear delta]

Oh yeah pilgrims dont fight for shit

[candid kayak]

TRUE

[clear delta]

Still think the mist is certain death eitherway

[candid kayak]

what area are you in

[orchid locust]

isn't it possible to go around through bilewater to get to the organ?

[tight viper]

The original entrance was probably to the right of the Grand Gate Spool Fragment, but it has since collapsed

[void moat]

except dor the aurafarming covetous pilgrim

[native canyon]

yeah that's how I did it the first time

[dry jolt]

just a random blurb here, but god i love silksong, im falling more in love with it on repeat playthroughs, its just so damn fun to master

[fathom echo]

The elevator breaks and sends hornet to underworks, if that didn’t happen I think it would go to CC cause why would they have a big ass elevator leading to a part of the citadel they clearly want to keep under wraps

[native canyon]

I think that makes the storytelling with the elevator a bit weaker...

[steep slate]

i bought the map for bone bottom and the marrow but when i press LB it just shows a text above and nothing else

[plucky stag]

paradoxically i've only started to get obsessed with silksong after i finished the game

[native canyon]

the elevator only goes down, it goes down before it breaks

[plucky stag]

probably because that's when i started engaging with the community and the content

[candid kayak]

sit on a bench to update the map maybe?

[orchid locust]

that'd probably be what pilgrims would do

[steep slate]

i tried it and it didnt work

[tight viper]

Elevator is intended to go down, it's supposed to send new arrivals to the Underworks for eternal labor

[plucky stag]

seeing everybody's experiences with the game as well as lore analysis, amongst other things

[clear delta]

He's js haunted

[steep slate]

is this a bug?

[clear delta]

He's a bum
No feats
Greedy bum

[candid kayak]

maybe the elevator knew you cheated to get past the judge

[steep slate]

the map of normal hollow worked perfectly

[dry jolt]

same here! i definitely really liked it first time, but repeat playthroughs just feel so satisfying

[void moat]

his aura increases his combat ability tenfold

[native canyon]

wait how the fuck did sherma get into choral chambers

[candid kayak]

bugs? in my hollow knight?!?

[steep slate]

;-;

[void moat]

through the judges

[candid kayak]

can you send an image maybe?

[clear delta]

Sinless

[steep slate]

okey lemme get pic

[plucky stag]

i do plan to replay skong at some point but first i have to cut down my backlog

[native canyon]

no I mean past the grand gate how the fuck did he get there

[clear delta]

He literally talks about the judges not even responding to him if I'm correct

[candid kayak]

hornet is bound to the two dimensional plane of the video game, other NPCs are not

[void moat]

prolly hopped on the scales or something

[tight viper]

He's small, probably squeezed through a small crack somewhere

[plucky stag]

i still have half a dozen achievements left on the board, nearly all of which require a replay (only true hunter is left but that one's just tedious)

[clear delta]

Oh past grand gate

[native canyon]

sherma platforming

[dry jolt]

totally fair, i’m working thru deltarune alongside repeat of ss atm and delatrune is damn good

[tight viper]

Like Young Anakin in Lego Starwars

[void moat]

good lord i wish karak had more lore to discuss

[candid kayak]

then he repaired the breakable wall like a good boy

[mossy raft]

Having a trap set on the bench is just diabolical! 😭

[clear delta]

Sherma game you can't attack but have 50 billion platforming abilities and can use music to stun enemies

[plucky stag]

i'm doing undertale right now coincidentally

[fathom echo]

Hornet is the entire reason Sherma got as far as he did

[light swan]

it’s cool how cool this looks when slowed down (earrape warning)

[plucky stag]

don't have deltarune in my library yet so that doesn't count as part of my backlog just yet

[candid kayak]

EXACTLY!

[native canyon]

wonderful demonstration

[candid kayak]

npcs can go in the background and foreground

[dry jolt]

undertale is wonderful makes me cry everytime

[native canyon]

sherma enters choral chambers even if you enter the citadel through exhaust organ

[median hatch]

sanest witch user

[plucky stag]

just finished pacifist mode and the ending was just beautiful

[clear delta]

Holee fuck.

[candid kayak]

look at all these NPCs using the third axis of movement

[native canyon]

awesome now go kill everyone

[light swan]

the best part about this is the tme between my dash attack and my clawline

[plucky stag]

that is the plan

[fathom echo]

Sherma secretly a flea confirmed?!

[dry jolt]

such a W game, i play on console but damn i wish i could replay bosses easily so bad

[plucky stag]

but more importantly, the way you can go back and talk to all the monsters after you've opened the barrier (i.e. resolve the climax) is exactly how my dream dlc for silksong goes

[median hatch]

sherma phasing through dimensions shows how goated he is

[summer sigil]

you say that like Hornet doesn't use the 3rd axis herself sometimes

[light swan]

there's 1 frame of startup for my 2nd hit and it INSTANTLY transitions into clawline, no time for the 2nd hit OR the 3rd hit to go through

[candid kayak]

also yeah "how did sherma get past"

you should be asking how second sentinel and shakra can just jump straight through the ceiling

[plucky stag]

a playable epilogue where you get to interact with pharloom after you've cut it free from the void

[native canyon]

tony fox stealing from earthbound once again,,,

[tight viper]

They're ghosts

[clear delta]

Please tc I neeeed this

[plucky stag]

i just want to see frey and pavo happy again

[void moat]

my silksong copy is kinda homeless

[clear delta]

I guess it is to leave shit to interpretation and line up with the 1st game but STILL.

[candid kayak]

sometimes, but only when the game allows it
she is at the mercy of these arbitrary cosmic rules

[plucky stag]

the difference though is that the knight is "dead" after dream no more; hornet is not after sister of the void

[void moat]

i dont care what they do for sk dlc just give karak more lore

[main turret]

That's not the issue, the issue is the long corridor of nothing but ember walls with the giant slugs

[summer sigil]

guys i have a theory the canon ending is sealed siblings

[candid kayak]

I want a mod where second sentinel hits their head on the ceiling and lands flat on their ass

[native canyon]

I hope pavo turns out to be a gaster follower like the switch exclusive clam girl

[dry jolt]

funnily enough i felt this same way abt hollow knight, i just couldn’t stop thinking about how good the game was when i finished

[candid kayak]

why is ... fast approaching?

[void moat]

“Have you met bellhart’s newest member fearless fox?”

[plucky stag]

during the game i was having fun of course, but it intensified after i started engaging with the community now that i could do so without worrying about spoilers

[turbid pasture]

deltarune chapter 1 (at the time)

[plucky stag]

i.e. chatting in here and binging all the memes and content on youtube and reddit

even lurking the skong category on twitch

just to watch casual streamers play it for the first time (in an attempt to vicariously relive my first playthrough)

[candid kayak]

lol

[plucky stag]

that to me is the true act 4, the postgame popoff

[dry jolt]

that’s awesome, i hadn’t engaged w the community by that point i was just obsessed w the game, but after finishing ss it’s cool to have ppl equally as obsessed haha

[plucky stag]

i especially love watching silksong animations

[native canyon]

switch version of undertale came out a few weeks before deltarune chapter 1, clam girl here mentions her neighbor's daughter suzy, and she only says this at a certain value. the full quote is this

[candid kayak]

I know I was making a joke

[plucky stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn3xhOOC57k
this one has to be my favorite one so far

[native canyon]

I'm an idiot

[candid kayak]

"..." is rapidly approaching your location
be very afraid

[raven onyx]

Thats not switch exclusive tho, right?

[median hatch]

Act 4 restoration

[plucky stag]

weirdly enough i still haven't watched any speedruns yet despite that being on the top of my list of things to do after i complete silksong

[native canyon]

the interaction is, clam girl herself is not

[turbid pasture]

pretty sure it is

[plucky stag]

in fact, i do that after i finish any game, just to see the pros demolish parts of the game i struggled with for hours

[median hatch]

i wonder if anyone has tried a low% materium speedrun

[untold matrix]

only downloading qol mods and im trying to hold back from being lured into the cheats help m e

[plucky stag]

one recent example is nine sols; i love how the speedrun just completely cheeses one of the bosses

[dry jolt]

same here, it’s somehow both discouraging and encouraging to see ppl destroy bosses that handed me my ass

[merry bear]

Ironic how it's possible to face tank first-sinner

[raven onyx]

Ask yourself if you are gonna be happier cheating through the game rather than beating it with your own strength

[dry jolt]

nine sols mentioned abosulte W game

[native canyon]

I keep seeing mention of this nine sols is it worth it

[untold matrix]

honestly cheating would make me happier because i don't have to go through the sufferage that is being bad at the game but on the other hand i have morals and i at least want to try finishing the game before i do a whole bunch of cheats

[plucky stag]

i finished it but have still yet to do ||true eigoing|| (being cautious now after earlier)

i put that on hold when silksong's release date was announced

[light swan]

i think im getting spoiled with max needle i shouild go back to needle 2

[glossy star]

TEAM CHERRY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[deft thistle]

how tf do i find this mushroom

[dry jolt]

i would highly recommend if you like hk and ss, it focuses more on parrying combat but platforming and mechanics are similar, with a great story too

[native canyon]

ic, is it like an actual narrative or is it lore I'd have to piece together a la dark souls

[turbid pasture]

needalion

[deft thistle]

..oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh that WOULD help huh?

[plucky stag]

the former

[native canyon]

neat

[steep slate]

Where the map at??

[light swan]

its certainly awesome and good and was my 3rd favorite game when i first finished it (behind hk and xc3) but thats because the story was really good (the story was exactly the same as xc3, just slightly worse)
i did personally dislike the combat and the exploration wasnt the best thing in the world but its certainly a fun experience

[dry jolt]

the story is laid out pretty straight forward, more so than hk imo

[light swan]

keep in mind i have high standards

[raven onyx]

Its on the top right from bone bottom. You have to climb up from the marrow then go left

[deft thistle]

wait wdym

[turbid pasture]

play it when you find the location

[light swan]

combat was super fun but it just wasnt right for me, exploration was definitely good but ive just been spoiled by afterimage hk xenoblades etc

[steep slate]

I bought the map but its not showing anything when i press LB

[deft thistle]

i meant more how do i find the location

[steep slate]

I jus want the map bruh ;-;

[turbid pasture]

look at the hints on the wish

[native canyon]

H3Y COOL K1D 1S TH1S YOU

[deft thistle]

yeah i am and it makes no sense to me

[vivid belfry]

Nine Sols is my #9 game right now

[turbid pasture]

you could look it up but that’s boring

[deft thistle]

im trying to find it without

[light swan]

its 4th on my list

[raven onyx]

I think you should compare your feelings on cheating through something and beating it yourself. Because honestly, the second one should feel much better

[deft thistle]

yeah exactly i dont wanna do that 😭

[dry jolt]

for me combat was hard to pick up (i died to the first enemy several times) but once it clicked i was hooked, and have replayed it and loved it ever since

[turbid pasture]

k

[native canyon]

[glacial kelp]

i rate it

[vivid belfry]

damn that's crazy if you didn't like the combat that much

[light swan]

it should honestly be 5th now that i think about it, i was just heavily impacted by the story so thats mostly why it was that high

[steep slate]

Any fixes for this bug????

[glacial kelp]

the gameplay is fairly different in essence though

[light swan]

i liked everything else about the game and i loved the story

[raven onyx]

The wish has description of the locations. They are in order

[turbid pasture]

shakra didn’t start your map…

[vivid belfry]

you know what fair, I just let silksong get demolished by a visual novel

[candid kayak]

have you tried closing the game and opening it again?

[plucky stag]

my best game is a four way tie between hk, silksong, celeste, and outer wilds

[light swan]

my only problem with the story is that i had heard it before, which isnt even nine sols part

[glacial kelp]

i got scammed though people were saying its harder than skong

[plucky stag]

i don't like ranking my 10/10 games, i just consider them all must plays

[dry jolt]

of the metroidvanias i’ve played:
hk and ss are tied for first
nine sols
bo path of the teal lotus
lone fungus
(yes i have a type i’m sorry)

[candid kayak]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[lone token]

Hi Chara

[subtle rain]

I have discovered sawtooth pogos on architects crest and holy moly this damage is crazy

[native canyon]

is it that time of day again where we talk about our favorite games

[plucky stag]

the latter two are on my list

[light swan]

but now that i think about it, afterimage has my favorite world oat, a really good combat system, my 2nd/3rd favorite game ost oat, and an amazing story in its own right

[plucky stag]

if you want to spoil them do so, i deserve revenge after spilling the beans on ori earlier

[glacial kelp]

boxshades what timezone are you in i see you on like the entire day

[native canyon]

I'm very in-n-out

[candid kayak]

all of them

[summer sigil]

currently limbus :333

[light swan]

holy shit my list

[plucky stag]

i actually have 10 seconds of gameplay in lone fungus because i accidentally clicked on it once

[native canyon]

est btw

[dry jolt]

omg i totally forgot abt ori, they’re both wedged between nine sols and bo for me

[glacial kelp]

sensing a theme amongst these games

[vivid belfry]

My list

btw I bought afterimage so I'll be getting to that soon

[glacial kelp]

go to bed its 2am

[lone token]

Xenoblade chroniches older and with to much better graphics than za btw

[light swan]

sometimes youre asleep by this time sometimes youre awake 4 hours later

[plucky stag]

the thing is i don't even know if what i said was correct, i might be misremembering how ori 2 ends

[light swan]

whats the theme

[summer sigil]

chat rate my list

[native canyon]

I usually take melatonin for this

[fathom echo]

One of these is not like the others

[light swan]

is it factorio

[plucky stag]

when it's been years since you played a game and it doesn't stick as well things can get fuzzy

[fathom echo]

Yes

[glacial kelp]

is asperite a game what

[gloomy fjord]

Where elden ring? 🤨

[vivid belfry]

lemme check the extended list

[light swan]

its not my type of game but no matter what i do, i cant deny how well designed it is

[native canyon]

no :)

[summer sigil]

i got 1k+ hours on it so prb

[native canyon]

seems it's that time again

[dry jolt]

animal well is def a metroidvania but kinda hard to compare to the rest i listed bc it’s so different progression wise

[steep slate]

I have tried everything

[glacial kelp]

i think thats how it works yeah very fun game

[light swan]

ive played factorio until like 5 am for every day of an entire month with my brother so its impacted me a lot

[dry jolt]

but animal well is one of my favorite gaming experiences for sure

[steep slate]

The hk map works perfectly but the silksong map is bugged??

[summer sigil]

i gotta continue Y6 so i can finally try Y8 man 🥀 🥀

[orchid locust]

seems it's that time again

[light swan]

im not sure if i like it more than afterimage or nine sols but its certainly well designed and impacted to the pint where i can put it that high

[turbid pasture]

best game ever next (alongside deltarune)

[glacial kelp]

metroidvania fan that actually plays metroid holy

[hasty forum]

Hii, sry to ask that but maybe someone know how can i contact team cherry ? Or contact someone who can say something to team cherry ? I really need to say something important

[plucky stag]

i'll post mine in a bit; i actually have kept track of my resume

[light swan]

comparing xenoblade graphics to pokemon graphics is funny lol

[noble chasm]

guys this is silksong discussion

[fathom echo]

Do you consider the torna dlc a separate game and if so where would you rank it

[hasty forum]

Ragebait 1/10

[vivid belfry]

ah here it is

[turbid pasture]

reconsider undertale now…

[glacial kelp]

i see silksong in the list so it passes

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/xenoblade-xc3-xenoblade3-xenoblade-chronicles-gif-24831394

[native canyon]

ss-discussion is back 🥹

[tight viper]

There's only one game in my personal S tier

[light swan]

ts on the same device as ZA

[summer sigil]

LoL S tier

[glacial kelp]

hi frito!

[tight viper]

hola

[steep slate]

Is this a bug in a bug game? ;-;

[summer sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-stan-twitter-gif-10576500664165224210

[light swan]

i consider it part of xc2, if i were to rank it separately i might put it between celeste and xenoblade X

[tight viper]

No wait there might be 2 or 3, idk

[clear delta]

Don't Pokémon games have like a tiny budget

[vivid belfry]

I think you've misidentified this as rage bait

wrong reply

[glacial kelp]

this is a comical statement

[summer sigil]

Yes! Hornet is actually Half weaver which are like Spiders!

[vivid belfry]

but I guess the sentiment stands

[fathom echo]

Gamefreak genuinely could make Pokémon like this but don’t care enough to do so

[light swan]

idk, but theyre pokemon whereas monolithsoft is just some super passionate studio

[native canyon]

xenoblade 3 cast spotted

[steep slate]

No, the map bug

[light swan]

either way idk the behind the scenes so i wont judge too hard

[noble chasm]

Ive always wondered why its sk and not ss

[glacial kelp]

what is xenoblade is that the one with mickey mouse

[fathom echo]

Please no spoilers I need to play it

[light swan]

idk if its gamefreaks fault or nintendos fault

[tight viper]

I'm just glad they still make the majority of the pokemon designs really good

[fathom echo]

Both

[lone token]

I love the franchise but i think that i wont buy za and dlc, 100€ for mega starmie IS crazy

[summer sigil]

Yes! Shakra is also a bug! Idk what species she is but she most certainly based on real bug species

[native canyon]

tpci, their bullshit deadlines lol

[gloomy fjord]

Nah wtf, L take bro 😭

[fathom echo]

Mega starmie

[tight viper]

"majority"

[glacial kelp]

mega star is peak

[light swan]

all i know is that monolithsoft is an amazing studo who puts so much passion into their projects and produce amazing games i can trust 80% of the time

[native canyon]

mega starmie is goated

[tight viper]

and besides, starmie isn't that bad

[glacial kelp]

mega pyroar is pretty ass though

[vivid belfry]

I still like it

[light swan]

🙏 have fun when you inevitably play it

[vivid belfry]

it's just not goat material

[native canyon]

been goated since 1999

[steep slate]

Bro the map does not work. How do i explain this in a game like this 😭

[light swan]

its genuinely probably the best experience ive ever had

[native canyon]

xenosaga 3 beats it out imo

[fathom echo]

Is it similar combat to the previous games

[light swan]

i still remember august 8 (my birthday) in 2022 first time ive ever cried in a game

[native canyon]

probably my favorite video game narrative

[light swan]

yea but better, its my personal favorite combat system of all time

[glacial kelp]

bro is 3 years old 🎉

[clear delta]

Not using it to justify anything I just remember hearing about it recently

The budget for Pokémon games is like miniscule compared to what gamefreak is worth

[glacial kelp]

bro you KNOW they have money

[light swan]

can people not have multiple birthdays i thought birthdays happened every year

[native canyon]

had no idea illusion was only 3 years old, rethinking my interactions with him

[light swan]

ive yet to play xenosaga

[clear delta]

Yea and that's the whole point

[gloomy fjord]

Well, kind of true

[glacial kelp]

me personally i was only born once yeah

[fathom echo]

I’m desperate for a xc2 remaster so they can fix the voice acting and make those scenes even more powerful

[dry jolt]

so who do we think is winning goty ss or expedition 33 (from what i’ve seen that’s its biggest competition)

[clear delta]

e33 seems to have the edge

[tight viper]

all you need is one of those small colorful key rings, and maybe a bell or some other noisemaker

[steep slate]

I tried them and they dont work either. How do i contact team cherry to tell them this?

[glacial kelp]

everybody thats not in this server be saying e33 i think its joever

[light swan]

all im desperate for is a xenosaga remaster or a xenoblade 4

[native canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/kosmos-kosmos-xenosaga-xenosaga-gif-7059181785303898647

[light swan]

especially after xc3, wherever the series goes after this im SO Hyped for it

genuinely after the ending im just like, so giddy whenever i think about it

[vivid belfry]

silksong might not be my GOTY anymore but it's at least the best game that actually came out this year

[native canyon]

what's your goty

[light swan]

because i trust monolithsoft and i know they WILL deliver on this wonderful setup theyve set up

[soft belfry]

Wa wa wa wa wa - baby judges in my mind for the past 3 mins

[subtle rain]

I just ran the numbers and im hitting more than warding bind goodness gracious

[vivid belfry]

Umineko

[native canyon]

game of the century

[plucky stag]

i am trying to use topsters but i want to rank the games and there isn't enough space

[silver topaz]

Guys I’m getting divorced BUT ALSO I’M DOING STEEL SOUL

[gloomy fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-book-fire-fire-book-his-writing-is-fire-as-a-child-i-yearned-for-the-mines-gif-7492916682126134420

[glacial kelp]

wordle is my goty

[plucky stag]

basically a tier list

[vivid belfry]

I can't recommend it, but that's fine because "easy to recommend" is only a quality I care about for games after spot 12 and before spot 67

[dry jolt]

just got to this in a repeat playthrough and why are they so loud💀

[steep slate]

How does the map work in silksong. Maybe i can modify some files and fix it?

[fathom echo]

I doubt they’ll make a fourth xc3 has a sense of finality to me

[native canyon]

I like how discord's icons for umineko in the widget thing are just blank

[tight viper]

When will they nominate Flea Dodge for GOTY

[glacial kelp]

has everyone here played xenoblade wth

[vivid belfry]

I installed a modpack to fix this

[light swan]

i mean, i thought you didnt play it yet

[vivid belfry]

that's how you know I'm in too deep

[fathom echo]

Peak game

[soft belfry]

I'm using wanderer to kill 1 at a time

But yea those cries haunt me

[vivid belfry]

wait no that's for steam

[steep slate]

PC

[dry jolt]

i haven’t

[light swan]

its an end to the klaus saga but not to the overarching story and theres so many places it can go

[fathom echo]

From the trailers I mean

[glacial kelp]

guh they dont allow discord modding

[candid kayak]

does the full map work?

[steep slate]

Nope

[light swan]

xenosaga ending + xc3fr ending + xcxde ending all coincide into an idea i KNOW monolithsoft will do great with

[candid kayak]

hmm

[steep slate]

I tried to access it from in inventory but it still dont work

[stiff briar]

baby judges are silksong's menderbug, a moral test

[steep slate]

I jus wanna play my fav game without issues 😭

[glacial kelp]

illusion spending his 3 years alive very efficiently

[candid kayak]

wrong
journal requirement

[light swan]

its still a final part in the trilogy

[native canyon]

xcxde doesn't fit with xenosaga but I can't say much without spoiling lol

[clear delta]

Maggots make more sense

[light swan]

it just transitions into something new while ending the old

[light swan]

yea ik it doesnt fit, but ik monolithsoft will find a way to make it work without disappointing me and thats part of why im so excited

im still of the firm believer that ||xenosaga and xenoblade are in the same universe and the blue light is kosmos||

[candid kayak]

squirrm is required for the hunter's memento
menderbug is an easter egg

[clear delta]

Kinda sad squirrms gotta be born in that system

[steep slate]

What to do after going there??

[native canyon]

kos-mos,,,

[soft belfry]

I'm still so cooked for modding but idk what to do now

[glacial kelp]

verify file integrity on steam im missing the full context though

[stiff briar]

even more of a moral test, can you avoid killing cute babies to give up an arbitrary achievement?

[light swan]

does the hyphen really matter 😭

[native canyon]

yes

[candid kayak]

verify integrity of game files perhaps?

[light swan]

kos-mos it is then

[steep slate]

Ok ima check

[tight viper]

No

[rocky mirage]

it was worth it

[fathom echo]

Regrettably I did get spoiled for one of THE dlc characters

[candid kayak]

no

[clear delta]

Free the squirrms FROM THE SYSTEM.

[light swan]

who

[soft belfry]

Not just killing, luring with a enchanted song to slaughter in front of the rest

No wonder last judge is emo

[raven onyx]

Ive murdered a lover to have a beating dust collector on my shelf in bellhart. Whats a moral test

[glacial kelp]

trolley problem 5 babies 1 brownie

[candid kayak]

they're the idiots who keep falling for the same shit over and over

[clear delta]

Honestly maggots are more sympathetic
Squirrms are just regular infants

[native canyon]

hell yeah I'd kill those babies

[fathom echo]

Starts with R

[light swan]

oh, thats not that bad of spiolers at all

[rocky mirage]

see i’m not a monster im just freeing them from the cycle

[clear delta]

Maggots are an innocent race forced into slavery their whole life
Squirrms are brainwashed infants
It's morally weird

[light swan]

its in the trailers as well as the teasier trailer for the dlc

[weary hatch]

wow maybe im crazy but ive never seen hornet use the word stupid lol. "foolish" is what i expect her to say usually 🤔

[light swan]

the trailers spoil MUCH worse stuff involving the main story of xc3

[dry jolt]

in the wise words of mossbag: “wtf is wrong with hornet?”

[candid kayak]

I am reading "spiolers" as it is spelled
spee-oh-lers

[light swan]

spyolers

[steep slate]

Theres no assets the in the streaming assets folder

[light swan]

or spy oll ers

[glacial kelp]

being homophobic is a lot of work sometimes yeah

[candid kayak]

spyrolers

[fathom echo]

I mean she does call PK a fool

[dry jolt]

wth i’ve never seen this dialogue

[raven onyx]

You didnt have to turn it like this. Why

[clear delta]

Crazy how hornet is homophobic and racists

[soft belfry]

Squirrms are also kinda forced into slavery, being forced to live perpetually in blasted steps is basically a punishment

[native canyon]

shoutout the trailer that came out on release day for spoiling the biggest moment in the game

[tight viper]

Steel Soul

[gloomy fjord]

Nah, I’d gladly even kill sherma cause he a bitch

[candid kayak]

the steel soul exclusive wish

[stiff briar]

people knocked Frieren for only being one of those even

[light swan]

yea i watched the release trailer for xc3 like 2 years later and realized it spoiled the moment, i was flabbergasted lol

[dry jolt]

ahh checks out, haven’t gotten around to steel soul yet but i have beaten every boss so far 1st try on repeat playthrough, currently at the beginning of act 2

[rocky mirage]

now he had it coming, he looked at me funny

[glacial kelp]

what is this for

[dreamy kiln]

something that i cant download 😢

[clear delta]

I think they're native to blasted steps

[candid kayak]

do you know where the silkeater room is in blasted steps?

[clear delta]

And the citadel took advantage of that

[glacial kelp]

windows 90000000 a rare breed true

[fathom echo]

Kosmos and the black chick are literally playable characters in xc2

[native canyon]

t-elos is middle eastern 🥸

[dry jolt]

yep i just went through recently

[glacial kelp]

where does mickey mouse come into play

[fathom echo]

I forgot her name

[native canyon]

he's the final boss

[weary hatch]

who is bro 😭✌️

[soft belfry]

That's like saying the spit squid is native to putrified ducts so it deserves to stay there

There are safer parts of blasted steps but they stand above the dangerous sandworms to judge pilgrims

[candid kayak]

well in steel soul instead of a silkeater you'll find an extended passage leading to an NPC with a wish

[glacial kelp]

i see

[weary hatch]

steel soul quest!

[candid kayak]

sula

[light swan]

did you click on the spoiler

[clear delta]

I had a kinda stupid theory that like
The species of squirrms and judges has inherent weird precognitive (idk if correct usage) abilities where they are able to see previous actions of bugs
Which allows the citadel to use them to determine if pilgrims are "sinless" enough to be of use to the citadel
But this type of stuff seems.limitrd to higher beings as we see with pale kings

[steep slate]

There is no assets folder in streaming assets folder

[dry jolt]

ahh good to know thank you!

[fathom echo]

Yes

[native canyon]

bruh

[candid kayak]

[light swan]

😭 😭 😭 😭

well, the xc2 kos-mos wasnt canon anyway, im tlaking about the actual canon one

[candid kayak]

so few masks...

[fathom echo]

Tbh I never played xenosaga

[stiff briar]

people are running out of things to do already

[native canyon]

literally can't work pretty sure they had it so she was also made by shion uzuki which is ???

[candid kayak]

follow a guide and it's pretty easy

[rocky mirage]

run and don’t die a lot

[native canyon]

like wow xc2 kos-mos is hype moments and aura

[vivid belfry]

Guide is unnecessary tbh

[dry jolt]

i mean what did you expect💀 it’s the hk community

[light swan]

it 100% cant work, theres no way it would lol, xc3 kos-mos is just fanservice

[native canyon]

I watched 1 speedrun and knew the route lol

[candid kayak]

easily
even with mistakes

[fathom echo]

I saw one with shakra garmond and Sherma vs ll

[rocky mirage]

you can very easily get to bellhart in an hour if you know the room layouts

[vivid belfry]

As long as you know what you actually need, sub 5 hours is pretty easy, and sub-3 is what I got on my first actual attempt with no routing

[native canyon]

I memorized it immediately and put a little practice into it

[weary hatch]

as they say, 7 is enough! 🤓

[stiff briar]

does sherma even have a battle AI

[graceful oyster]

This is genuinely one of my favorite images to come out of recent days

[tight viper]

Current any% world record is around 50 or so, yeah? Above it, of course

[candid kayak]

get more

[native canyon]

also fun fact you can just use the save file rollback feature for your speedrun achievement

[dry jolt]

if we’re lucky team cherry won’t look at the photos of savage bilefly and make it a boss in pantheon of pharloom (this is all speculation)

[fathom echo]

Emotional support

[candid kayak]

the humble exhaust organ:

[boreal ibex]

Hi

[candid kayak]

also there's a way to skip sister splinter by taunting one of the flying enemies under the weaver shrine

[light swan]

oh man im rewatching it and holy shit its so hype (and FILLED with spoilers) is this what xc3 combat music does to a soul

[plucky stag]

that's probably more egregious of a cheese than saving and quitting during steel soul

[candid kayak]

yes the back entrance

[weary hatch]

hmhm yeah this is definitely gonna happen, im going for 100% after all

[plucky stag]

mind you i'm an actual speedrunner of games so i might be biased

[rocky mirage]

the bells aren’t required, go through The Mist
drifters cloak is required i think
sister splinter can be skipped to get wallcling faster

[native canyon]

if team cherry didn't want you to do either of those they wouldn't let you do them

[plucky stag]

i can understand saving and quitting as that's abusing a mechanic you're probably used to

[plucky stag]

but directly manipulating save files is another thing

[rocky mirage]

yes

[native canyon]

it's not using anything that's not in-game

[graceful oyster]

Equating availability with deliberate intention is shaky

[native canyon]

the save file rollback thing is accessible no matter what

[dry jolt]

the ||”sinner’s road” if you will👀||

[candid kayak]

Highway to Hell

[dry jolt]

exactly💀

[candid kayak]

queue the song

[deft thistle]

watching a crest ranking video and watching dude put hunters crest at 6 for combat 💔

[candid kayak]

in this room you can taunt repeatedly to bait one of the flying guys, then use them to pogo up

[graceful oyster]

Yikes

[indigo eagle]

someone sucks ass at dodging

[native canyon]

turn this guy into amber

[candid kayak]

a remarkable specimen

[steep slate]

Whats the name of the file that makes the ingame quickmap work In silksong?

[dry jolt]

me getting to ||bilewater||: oh the music is so nice this must not be that bad (famous last words)

[indigo eagle]

Oh my fucking god bro I was so excited for this game

[candid kayak]

did you Verify integrity of game files

[tacit rain]

[marsh spoke]

truer words never smoken

[deft thistle]

Ggs

[steep slate]

Yes

[candid kayak]

[deft thistle]

literally bro like 😭

[weary hatch]

wahhhh steel soul quest is so adorable a light has been turned on inside of me i have been enlightened

[steep slate]

Okey i will try..

[deft thistle]

i can understand beast crest at #1 for combat purely because it is LITERALLY MADE for combat, but why are we putting wanderers and witch above the 40% damage boost crest twin 💔

[tacit rain]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-kids-vape-temp-2050-me-gif-5934912234775267564

[celest bramble]

theres sooooo many of these little dent in the walls that screams "secret here" that end up being actually nothing, it annoys me

[marsh spoke]

shouldn't have been

[steep slate]

You sure it will fix the problem?

[deft thistle]

this

[marsh spoke]

they fired the creative directors earlier this year iirc

[fathom echo]

Have you seen the bs tech people are pulling

[indigo eagle]

KRAFTON is the worst gaming company ever

[deft thistle]

with what

[fathom echo]

Witch

[candid kayak]

if it looks metallic you can hit it repeatedly to farm shell shards (slowly)

[indigo eagle]

I despise these guys more than I despise Nintendo

[marsh spoke]

or something like that the game was already fucked since this year though (now it's worse obviously)

[tacit rain]

https://tenor.com/view/disabled-wheelchair-drift-lets-go-silly-gif-4963831

[rocky mirage]

activision is right there my friend

[celest bramble]

even rooms, theses so many empty rooms some are even semi-secret and they just have nothing in them, Mr Mushroom ends up locating at random spots instead of these rooms

[candid kayak]

hit shiny wall, shiny shell shards break off

[indigo eagle]

Atleast those guys don’t make good games

These guys were gonna make an masterpiece game of the year material

[tight viper]

You are

[deft thistle]

fair but like...... how much are you gonna be pulling this off in an actual fight? i've seen people testing it on the grand reeds and it just doesnt seem like something youd see actually utilized, compare that to hunter who gets crazy damage boost for doing what your meant to be doing

[celest bramble]

i wouldnt call these farming just like I wont call running the the treadmill farming rosories, farm needs to at at least be somewhat effective

[noble chasm]

Its in the game for a reason whyd it be cheating

[deft thistle]

idk why they do this dawg 😭

[candid kayak]

it's viable but there's much easier ways

[rocky mirage]

i’m ngl i always kinda thought subnautica 2 was gonna be ass

co-op horror is almost never good, and it seems like they’ve abandoned the horror part which is what made everyone love subnautica in the first place

[deft thistle]

its.. cheating to use weapons or silk skills?

[indigo eagle]

yeah

[deft thistle]

im confused whats the logic

[candid kayak]

driving in my prawn suit right after a beer

[celest bramble]

you are NOT "farming for levels" if you are getting 1 exp per kill

[rocky mirage]

no, people just have egos too high for their own good

[deft thistle]

lets not talk about me using only hunters crest despite my face tank playstyle

[celest bramble]

and it still annoys me everytime I think about those

[dry jolt]

only on repeat playthroughs have i begun to rely on tools and silk skills, they have come in massive handy but i think its a matter of feeling out the difficulty of the room/enemies you’re facing, (ie: flying enemies, use projectiles, ground enemies, build up silk) that sort of thing has made me understand more what the game wants from you

[candid kayak]

by a loose technicality you are
but you're not very smart for doing so

[deft thistle]

how

[amber needle]

i love karmelita grazing me with the VERY edge of her hitbox

[deft thistle]

Use cross stitch

[celest bramble]

it is not "farming" when doing literally anything else is faster, farming need to be BETTER then just doing normal activity to be called farming

[candid kayak]

the humble straight pin:

[deft thistle]

that too

also flintslate.. flea brew..

[candid kayak]

gardening

[amber needle]

am i a freak for using these on karm

[candid kayak]

eh

[tight viper]

nah those work

[amber needle]

(i don't know what red tools to use those are legit my defaults 🥀)

[deft thistle]

i mean i used voltvessels bola and throwing ring and cross stitch, is that weird or like

[candid kayak]

cogwork wheel used to have 16 uses now it has 10

^

[amber needle]

i think i need to skin you alive for this take actually

[deft thistle]

i only use cogflies for annoying bosses that keep you trapped in a small room with a HUGE hitbox

[candid kayak]

go my shitlings

[deft thistle]

or groal

[candid kayak]

groal is extremely overhated

[clear delta]

I beat Groal with like reaper and poison cogflies

[deft thistle]

not in my opinion i cheesed that mf the MOMENT i learned how

[plucky stag]

still have yet to play subnautica

[candid kayak]

gasp

[tough wolf]

It's an option the game gives you, you're handicapping yourself this way for no reason

[plucky stag]

but honestly i deserve to be spoiled on that because of what i did with will of the wisps

[deft thistle]

still have yet to finish subnautica

[clear delta]

He took me a while to beat but I love the guy

[celest bramble]

only if you ignore the run back + gauntlet, by pretending those are not part of the attempt

[candid kayak]

I have never cheesed them

you knew about the bench, right?

[clear delta]

The actual worst boss is the unr*velled

[dry jolt]

maybe.. a certain boss that starts with a… g? perhaps? 💀

[stiff briar]

I want a Groal plushie more than anything

[deft thistle]

im too scared to finish subnautica my thalassophobia is horrid

[candid kayak]

unravelled is fine wtf are you on about

[clear delta]

ONLY BOSS I resorted to architect spam for

[tough wolf]

I can see something like architect's crest being more cheese strat-ish (I stand by this) but just using tools and silk skills in general like perfectly fine

[plucky stag]

i got comfortable and stuck with hunter all the way to the end partially because of my celeste background

[deft thistle]

i knew about the bench i still cheesed cro

[clear delta]

It sucks ass bro

[tough wolf]

Literally worst boss in the game arguably

[candid kayak]

me in my prawn suit

[plucky stag]

in celeste you also do 45 degree downward inputs (wavedashing) so going into silksong i was a natural

[clear delta]

The aimbot attacks and the fucked up hitbox

[tight viper]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-gif-9388384639890532829

[candid kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-undertale-deltarune-gif-8006577193793263180

[deft thistle]

i just didnt feel right unless i used hunters

like i LITERALLY cant switch off it it feels incorrect

crest dysphoria type shit ig

[tough wolf]

Yeah I also used Hunter's crest my whole first playthrough

[candid kayak]

unravelled is a pretty good fight you were just blundering into his ass over and over again

[deft thistle]

my (most of the game) loadout ❤️ + compass of course

[tough wolf]

Then I did mainly playthroughs with some of the other crests to see what they were (reaper was agonizing it was so boring)

[candid kayak]

have you considered... landing a bit further back?

[tight viper]

The Cadaver Spit attack is predictable

[dry jolt]

we are both just built different ig 💀 groal sucked for me but last judge and phantom were way easier

[candid kayak]

yeah it always aims one up and one down

[rocky mirage]

i wouldn’t say good it’s decent

[stiff briar]

the only two truly dog crap fights in this game are Pinterest and Palestag

[deft thistle]

unravelled was kinda meh but it was NOT hard 😭

[tough wolf]

It's still an annoying fight where you can barely get any hits in at all and it takes forever

[amber needle]

there's no reality where i should trip over the hem of his cloak and get shat in the face 🥀

[plucky stag]

same here

[amber needle]

i'm watching you

[candid kayak]

palestag is overhated, largely because people expect it to be something it isn't

[proper crow]

i've 100%ed silksong yay

[plucky stag]

i fought unravelled late in act 3 when i was just trying to maximize my percentage before i started taking hints

[deft thistle]

what the FUCK is pale stag

[amber needle]

palestag was just annoying tbh

[candid kayak]

palestag isn't a normal boss fight

[plucky stag]

i bet it would have been even harder had i fought it in act 2

[deft thistle]

why does everyone HATE yo what

[amber needle]

i kicked his ass in sheer spite in act 2 ngl

[candid kayak]

palestag isn't even too hard either...

[deft thistle]

nah hold on can we pause for a sec what did aqua just say

[candid kayak]

me when rule 2

[deft thistle]

can we just like take a quick break bro

[plucky stag]

think about being here like you acquiring the everbloom and this chat being the otherwise lethal void

[deft thistle]

bro

[candid kayak]

don't be inappropriate

[deft thistle]

GENUINELY what are we on twin ❤️

[candid kayak]

like, at all, not just here

[rocky mirage]

what happened

[candid kayak]

there are certain things you simply do not say

[rocky mirage]

was bro hornyposting on main or something

[clear delta]

Palestag is interesting and also not that bad with clawline

[deft thistle]

inappropriate talk

[candid kayak]

lmao basically

[deft thistle]

yeah basically LMFAOOOO

[candid kayak]

lmfao

[rocky mirage]

lmao

[deft thistle]

lmao

[candid kayak]

the underworks treatment

[ripe laurel]

lol, lmao even

[deft thistle]

omg its 🐌

[tight viper]

100 years in the Whiteward

[ripe laurel]

hi dude™

[deft thistle]

hello 🐌

[light swan]

you should learn the openings to heal rather than just healing whenever you think shes standing still

[candid kayak]

isn't that like the point of the whiteward though? to extend lifespan

[light swan]

there are openings to heal and you dont know them which is why youre missing all your heals

[candid kayak]

100 years of continuous whiteward surgery

[light swan]

id recommend healing during her long void attacks like her tentacles or balls, as well as during her parries or as she lands after her diagonal air attack

[tight viper]

To extend, yes. To enjoy, no.

[raw pawn]

Worst part about sinner's road for me was that I had to go back there from halfway home every time I die (didn't know you can fix the bench at first)

[candid kayak]

bind while they're locked into an animation and can't move out of the way

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1412924588857233590/1421627195897675859/SPOILER_2025-09-27_15-34-59.mp4?ex=68fb5740&is=68fa05c0&hm=2bd10b4c37699ac485ed18b067f37dcffdc5fe0aae914f75a2fae9058ab0779f& heres mine if you want to see how i healed back when i was a casual @proud dove

[light swan]

^^ bind dURING enemy attacks not AFTER, this is what every player gets wrong for some reason

if you can land a thread storm itll be even easier to land a witch heal

[ripe laurel]

bind before enemy attacks and gamble

[tight viper]

I only bind when I'm in the path of a moving attack

[raw pawn]

I always panic heal whenever I am on 1 health so I always get hit lol

[amber needle]

god i feel dumb as hell dying to karmelita

[candid kayak]

exactly, like here you bind above where she's gonna land at the end of the attack

[light swan]

a lot of crests are fun id say theyre all fun

[light swan]

precisely yea

[tough wolf]

Me using beast crest against her and beating her ass so easily is what caused me to realize beast crest was actually kind of insane ngl

[light swan]

its why witch crest has a skill floor lol

[light swan]

me using any other crest and beating her ass so easily is what caused me to realize witch crest was kinda weak as fuck

me playing witch crest made me appreciate every other crest so much more, thats hwy im such a kind and caring individual

[tough wolf]

Oh damn this is coming from John witch crest

[light swan]

it is !

[raw pawn]

I think beast is the best crest for bosses along with wanderer

[candid kayak]

climbs wall, double jumps, witch binds in the air, "oh, wait."

[light swan]

i panic healed too its ok

im friends with all the bossfights so i trust them to stand in my bind but sometimes they dont

[lament ruin]

Is 87 hours before finaly reaching act 3 final boss to long?

[raw pawn]

I think you would panic heal even more if your in steel soul (and not save and quit)

[candid kayak]

the bind is ass on purpose

[light swan]

i think you didnt utilize it well because shaman has probably the 2nd highest dps in the game

[candid kayak]

the idea is you're not supposed to take damage in the first place

[tight viper]

To be fair, you did say earlier you weren't a fan of using silk skills

[light swan]

im glad youre giving other crests a shot tho

[candid kayak]

after all, the silk is meant to be spent on the three empowered silk skills, not on binds

[ripe laurel]

just dont get hit

[candid kayak]

basically, yeah

[raw pawn]

Shaman is great dps but you can't freaking heal cause you either used all your silk for silk skills or the bind will make you die

[amber needle]

last claws are annoying

[light swan]

shaman is built in a way where yo ucan focus 100% of your focus on dodging instead of attacking

[ripe laurel]

you can parry spam anyway

[light swan]

since youre 100% focused on dodging, the heal drawback isnt even that bad

[rocky vessel]

Has anyone here ever had a limb feel rly cold and hurt but it’s not actually coledon the outside but feels like the inside it for and you can do anything abt it

[amber needle]

should i try shaman against karmelita

[candid kayak]

I wanna see an average shaman crest gif where it's just someone trying to bind in mid air in lower marrow, divebombing into lava and dying

[tight viper]

weavelight

[tough wolf]

Pale nails unironically best skill for shaman crest

[light swan]

• weavelight makes spells compeltely free
• the range makes it much easier to poke from safety rather than actually engaging like other crests

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-skong-silk-song-silksong-gif-4842792387470849374

[candid kayak]

press X, silk appears

[amber needle]

chat hear me out

[light swan]

why wispfire

[amber needle]

thats a damn good question

[light swan]

save your silk for skills imo

[tough wolf]

Tbh it's hard for me to say exactly why but I think wanderer is just a straight up better version of beast crest
Idk even with the increased nail damage and length and attack speed with the bind of beast crest end of the day wanderer has fast swing speed all the time

[ripe laurel]

why wispfire

[candid kayak]

egg of flealia (if only it didn't have the completely unwarranted HP condition)

[light swan]

thats a damn good question

[ripe laurel]

clueless

[amber needle]

consistent damage while being evasive was where my mind went i think

[hidden pagoda]

yes

[light swan]

i think its fine tbh, leans into shamans playstyle

[candid kayak]

wispfire lantern is bad and will literally just waste your silk

[tough wolf]

I CAN CONFIRM FROM WATCHING MY FRIEND DO EXACTLY THIS, THIS WORKS

[light swan]

i can confirm it works too !

[candid kayak]

pale nails:

[tough wolf]

Can't wait for more minion build tools to come out

[amber needle]

this is an even worse take probably

[clear delta]

B..but...the callbackz..too the...first game...

[candid kayak]

also I swear wispfire lantern misses against anything that moves

[candid kayak]

imagine if spell twister only worked at full HP

[light swan]

better, but you wont be at max silk often enough for it to matter

[ripe laurel]

nyleth is too free you dont need to heal

[candid kayak]

that's literally what egg of flealia is

[light swan]

same as a witch crest user

[clear delta]

Why does the final reward for the grand feychquest have to work on full hp

[amber needle]

i could be boring and put longclaw on shaman even if it literally doesn't matter

[tough wolf]

Stupid unrelated question is your pfp based off diep.io or smth

[amber needle]

i feel like reserve bind would be a waste here too

[light swan]

might i recommend maybe inejctor band

[tough wolf]

The personal build I would go for is volt filament injector band and weavelight

[candid kayak]

arras, but yeah basically

[clear delta]

Is reverse bind good? It seems limited

[light swan]

pin badge if you want strong pokes without having spells availabkle

[candid kayak]

reserve*

[clear delta]

It was a Typo Bro

[candid kayak]

reserve bind is decent

[light swan]

sawtoth circlet is always useful if youre good

[amber needle]

actually pin badge might be decent against karm

[candid kayak]

typos can be edited

[light swan]

tbh id recommend pollip pouch or quick sling the most

[clear delta]

New tool reverse bind, it makes your binds damage you for 3 masks but give you 9 silk

[tough wolf]

So true!!!

[quiet fossil]

can you imagine void savage beastfly 2 in radiance

[candid kayak]

LMAO

[amber needle]

for shaman???

[tough wolf]

Sawtooth circlet is the equivalent to Flukenest in this game istg

[fathom echo]

Self harm technique

[clear delta]

Would silksoul mode have been like your silk bar IS your health

[candid kayak]

except for the fact that it's not based on being horrifically bugged

[ripe laurel]

hornet has gambling addiction, drug addiction and now shes masochistic?wow

[candid kayak]

pair Reverse Bind with plasmium overdose

[amber needle]

last claws are SO fucking annoying dude

[fathom echo]

Wrong one

[raw pawn]

New bracelet buff

It now increases att from 1.25x to 1.255x but now makes you get 4x dmg

[candid kayak]

ah

[light swan]

what needle level + crest are you

[amber needle]

hivesteel + shaman

[mental arch]

why he derking

[candid kayak]

1.25.5x...

[fathom echo]

Maybe you’re constantly getting sucked by a claw maiden

[light swan]

threadstorm should kill one of them then, the last one can just be sniped with a waiting gam

[raw pawn]

Shh you saw nothing

[amber needle]

i'm just bad at dealing with repositioning

[light swan]

speaking from experience as a person doing last claws with 5 masks barbed rbacelet 2 needle upgrades and witch crest

[mental arch]

Just dont stop moving

[fathom echo]

Popped like a piñata

[fathom echo]

Two mask damage rears it’s fuck ass head again

[ripe laurel]

[main turret]

I'm sorry, I have to climb Mount Fay with a delicate flower >->

[candid kayak]

[fathom echo]

I’m afraid to watch this with sound

[ripe laurel]

sprintmaster swift when you just enter the room

[main turret]

And let me guess, it's gonna start deteriorating once I get there because it's liquid

[candid kayak]

to be fair it has 3 durability and the cold doesn't hurt you anymore

[ripe laurel]

me on sinners road

[tough wolf]

No actually

[candid kayak]

Solid Lacquer

[main turret]

Okay that's a little more reasonable

[candid kayak]

there are no shenanigans dw

[main turret]

I'm thinking this is probably the last thing I need to do before act 3, idk for sure tho

[torn herald]

We found the sinner

[candid kayak]

yeah once you're in act 3 GMS can't be fought

[amber needle]

i kinda like playing shaman actually

[torn herald]

Haven't tried it myself but it's probably easier in act 3 because of a certain ability

[candid kayak]

you can do it in act 3 too, and in fact I think you get paid a little bit more than in act 2

[amber needle]

i suck donkey dick at it but the downair giving as much extra airtime as it does it can play very evasive

[candid kayak]

but it doesn't really matter which act you do it in

[torn herald]

This was just for lore, telling us how the weavers were trying to escape pharloom

[lone rune]

so the druids eye is worse grubsong and warding bell is better stallwarts shell

[torn herald]

Silkspeed anklets charm is also more proof for this

[candid kayak]

it could tie in to some dlc but not likely

[candid kayak]

oh fuck you're right

[torn herald]

And dice is worse and better carefree melody

[lone rune]

lol

[light swan]

is it actually impossible to get a warding bind on last judge

[candid kayak]

dice is lower odds than carefree melody and yet it's so much better than it

[torn herald]

The only reason dice is even good is because it's a yellow tool, if it was blue absolutely NO ONE would be using it

[candid kayak]

yeah

[tough wolf]

Because yellow tool powercreep yeah

[main turret]

I thought you needed to do everything for act 3, including the courier runs

[sharp slate]

this on the dot

[fathom echo]

For the love of god just use injector band instead of bell

[candid kayak]

nope

[tough wolf]

Baldur shell*

[lone rune]

mistake

[candid kayak]

the most important thing is to move the fleas to the last location

[lone rune]

lol

[torn herald]

Barbed bracelet, dice and weighted belt are like the only yellow tools actually decent for combat

[sharp slate]

not gonna lie stallwart is probably better than warding bell at high level play

[low pagoda]

weighted belt is a better stalwart shell

[sharp slate]

stallwart lets you just tank forever stal + qf = win

[hollow stratus]

Playing through Ori will of the wisps and realizing how pretty terrible some of the side quests are

[torn herald]

Wait I think you meant baldur shell

[main turret]

I.... HOW, there's one flea I just literally can't reach

[plucky stag]

i see this more as worldbuilding or even sequel hooks

[torn herald]

That combo is not as good as people think it is honestly

[lone rune]

yeah

[candid kayak]

show it, also you don't need ALL of them

[plucky stag]

just showing that the world of hollow knight is much bigger than just hallownest and pharloom

[fathom echo]

The map wide fetch quest

[candid kayak]

yeah it's more so for lore, especially given the rune harp right next to it

[torn herald]

Getting all of them is still probably better tho since exploring becomes HELL because of "'certain reasons"

[plucky stag]

so team cherry if they choose to do so left themselves ways to expand upon the hk franchise

[candid kayak]

meh, it's not that bad

[tough wolf]

I wonder if the nameless town is the equivalent to dirtmouth or smth

[main turret]

There's one in Choral Chambers that's blocked by two spinning traps I have no way through

[tough wolf]

Since they're both on the surface iirc

[candid kayak]

I wonder if dirtmouth is on the surface

[amber needle]

shaman does feel like a good crest ngl, but like. i feel So Bad at it

[sharp slate]

you can literally just damage tank p5.... unironically with the right set up

[plucky stag]

it's like how in a story set in say canada one of the characters mentions they've been to nepal on a mountaineering trip

[hollow stratus]

Ye a lot of em are just fetch quests disappointingly enough
Like there shouldve been more npc quests in the towns
The help funding projects and repairs one is good but ye there needs to be more here

[candid kayak]

iirc it was never stated clear if dirtmouth is actually on the surface or not

[sharp slate]

sure its not the most amazing combo but its insanely strongh

[candid kayak]

it sure as hell looks like it's on the surface

[plucky stag]

but otherwise nepal isn't really relevant to the story, it's just put in there to establish that the world is bigger than just the setting of the story

[fathom echo]

Where else would it be

[torn herald]

It's weird honestly the whole HK universe could be in a cave for all we know

[candid kayak]

underground I guess

[hollow stratus]

Plus that silver bell wish
Awful just awful

[plucky stag]

undertale reference?

[candid kayak]

well, in pharloom the nameless town area is directly called "the surface"

[hollow stratus]

Why is it just randomly placed bells
People are just gonna be wandering not knowing wtf
Maybe that's the point but I honestly don't get it

[plucky stag]

or how about something a bit more unique: london reference?

[candid kayak]

h m m

[plucky stag]

no trip to london is complete without riding on the tube a.k.a. the underground

[torn herald]

I suppose so

[plucky stag]

same goes to places like nyc or tokyo; you just have to get around with the subways to get the full experience

[orchid locust]

the new york subway is like an alternate dimension

[torn herald]

It makes sense because twisted child plus she's the equivalent of thk

[candid kayak]

it's possible that the caverns between kingdoms could cross the surface two
like each kingdom is deep within a large hill or something like that

[lime wyvern]

dirtmouth probably isnt tbh
nameless town is stated to be on the surface, and lining up the desolate wastes it seems pretty unlikely that dirtmouth is surface

[sharp slate]

you can escape the widow arena.... (yes ik its modded but still)

[candid kayak]

zylotol

[plucky stag]

that's another idea for a potential act 4

[torn herald]

Lifeblood dlc if it was actually about lifeblood

[hollow stratus]

Honestly still a pretty bad idea to balance a final boss all around a secret ending

[lime wyvern]

WHAT DID YOU DO GET IT OFF MY SCREEN

[amber needle]

god i feel really stupid for getting killed by the first part of karm's jump attack 🥀

[torn herald]

Honestly deserved for those fuckass flea minigames they made us go through

[lime wyvern]

LIKE YOU DIDNT EVEN INCLUDE KRATT

[plucky stag]

he's already dead

[lime wyvern]

YIPPEEEE

[fathom echo]

Oh that’s gore of my comfort character

[torn herald]

Pk saw that lifeblood could chill in the fucking abyss with no problems and IMMEDIATELY made it illegal lmao

[lone rune]

this fall is evil

[torn herald]

Average sk runback

[fathom echo]

Fuck you straight back to moss grotto

[plucky stag]

once upon a time intensifies

[lone rune]

there lived two races