sk-discussion

[cinder skiff]

at 8 masks it has more returns than at 7 masks

[tulip spire]

With 5 masks the fractured mask is 20% more hp. With 10 it’s 5% lol

[cinder skiff]

??

[light swan]

being at 8 + fractured is better than being at 7 + fractured by a lot

[untold dune]

its 10% more at 10 lol

[cinder skiff]

for this game you should just think of masks in groups of 2 for obvious reasons

[tulip spire]

Oh duh

[light swan]

why are we thinking of masks in percentages 😭

[cinder skiff]

the broken mask is more ore less useful depending on how many masks you have

[plucky stag]

not going to denigrate people for doing that if they just want the achievement, but for me personally i agree

[cinder skiff]

it doesnt get linearly less useful the more masks you have

[plucky stag]

that's why paradoxically i have no desire to even attempt steel soul

[tulip spire]

Because that’s what is? It’s a hp upgrade but one extra pip of hp is significantly less meaningful when you have double the hp at end game

[cinder skiff]

its more useful at 8 masks than at 7, but its more useful at 8 masks than 9 too, but its more useful at 10 than 9, 8, or 7.

[plucky stag]

but if i ever do it will come from genuinely wanting to do the challenge instead of just ticking a box

[cinder skiff]

because at 10 masks, all mask shards in the game, you effectively have 5 masks against 2 mask attacks

[candid kayak]

so uh, I just decided on a whim to fight shakra while I was cursed, since I was passing the arena

[plucky stag]

i'm perfectly happy to sit at 46 achievements

[cinder skiff]

so a 11th mask gives you an entire 6th hit against 2 mask attacks

[hallow panther]

It’s bad if you abuse it and claim you did it legit

[plucky stag]

even if i never play silksong again i'm happy to leave my experience where it is

[cinder skiff]

whereas at 9 masks, a 10th mask doesnt do much against a majority of attacks youll face which are 2 mask attacks

[tulip spire]

I mean only if you don’t heal at all

[candid kayak]

and now I can say, to anyone who thinks shakra's fight is bullshit and unfair
try reacting to her attacks instead of flopping around randomly

this took like 3 tries, with the first 2 being early chokes where I just let her finish me off so I could reset

[tulip spire]

Are there people that struggle with her? She’s just temu sly. You wait for her to stop teleporting and you hit her in the face after parrying/dodging her throw

[silver nacelle]

So, shaman players?

[candid kayak]

yeah punish

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-skong-silk-song-silksong-gif-4842792387470849374

[tulip spire]

Who would benefit the least from using their blues on mask lol

[silver nacelle]

Pale nails spam is too real.

[lucid aspen]

This is exactly how I cleared coral tower and i don't regret it

[silver nacelle]

Honestly, not healing on shaman leaves you with only fractured mask and pin badge as viable options for your third blue slot.

[proud dove]

https://youtu.be/bAkx5aHyDUI?si=Q5KQ8brWY3OVur8W

[light swan]

another coral tower one

[proud dove]

This is beautiful

[tulip spire]

Egg?

[candid kayak]

Weavelight?

[silver nacelle]

Dead weight if you get hit.

[candid kayak]

true

[silver nacelle]

That's why I said THIRD blue slot.

The first and second are always weavelight and volt filament for me.

[candid kayak]

weavelight fills basically the same role, and doesn't require full HP...

[untold dune]

why are you getting hit in this game? dont you know its bad?

[candid kayak]

the full HP condition is a dealbreaker honestly

[silver nacelle]

I'm clumsy uwu.

[quick swan]

they should totally buff egg of flealia its so pointless currently

[candid kayak]

you're not supposed to get hit

[tulip spire]

How would you fix it I can’t think of anything other than “remove its drawback entirely”

[untold dune]

they took grubberflys elegy and made it worse 💔

[candid kayak]

the full HP thing really feels like it was just tacked on to make it a parallel of grubberfly's elegy

[silver nacelle]

Most people hate on shaman for the bind. I doubt egg of flealia is gonna fare any better on the crest.

[light swan]

i use egg on shaman :D

[candid kayak]

the bind isn't unusable but it's a strict downgrade in every way

[silver nacelle]

Good for you. I'm never touching it tho.

[quick swan]

yeah do that honestly. its a pretty late game tool that fills up a whole blue slot. i recon players deserve it

[tulip spire]

It’s the worst bind in the game by a significant margin

[light swan]

this gif was only possible with egg i think

[candid kayak]

it's just logical...

[silver nacelle]

I know, but injector bands are heavily recommended to make it easier.

[candid kayak]

yeah

[light swan]

havent you heard of the shaman bind build

[candid kayak]

oh my god no

tbf the idea is that you spend silk on skills, NOT burn it all on healing

[silver nacelle]

Not really for me. Since I don't heal, getting hit means I can never get back the egg effect.

[candid kayak]

use cross stitch it's like a preventative heal

[silver nacelle]

He's meming.

[tulip spire]

I’m not really sure what the best bind is. Reaper is nice to use at any time but its gimmick feels so marginal compared to witch/beast I’m not sure it’s an apples to apples comparison

[candid kayak]

for shaman crest

[light swan]

definitely beast

[silver nacelle]

The best bind is beast rn.

[candid kayak]

best shmest I just beat shakra while cursed

[light swan]

blues: multibinder mirrors (obvious damage), reserve bind (more clutch bind damage)
yellows: spider strings (stun the enemy by needolining them, allowing you to bind them)
white: none (save them for binding)

[silver nacelle]

Fury mode can now pierce through blocks.

[tulip spire]

What if I get a boo boo and there’s no enemies around, what then

[light swan]

attack your cogflies

[silver nacelle]

Then that's your fault for using beast for exploration.

[jade barn]

the other binds become even worse

[candid kayak]

meta does not equal enjoyment

[silver nacelle]

Architect's bind is also busted tbh.

[light swan]

normal binds are way too slow for me and they still are with injector band

[tulip spire]

They’re fucking instant with injector band what

[candid kayak]

I beat groal with architect crest earlier today

I didn't spam tools I used them the same amount as I normally would, and used no craft binds

[light swan]

i beat karmelita and seth the same way

[candid kayak]

tossed a few bombs into his mouth, mostly to show a friend who was watching lol

[silver nacelle]

Part of me wants to abandon shaman for max drilltect.

[light swan]

drillchitect is kinda meh, its fun but meh

[silver nacelle]

But I will not listen to those fiendish thoughts.

[tulip spire]

The only time I get hit while binding when running injector is if I’m running multibinder with it

[light swan]

thats my conclusion from todays playing with drillchitect

[silver nacelle]

NOOOOOOOO

[light swan]

dont get hit while binding in general :thrinking:

[jade barn]

It's still pretty fast even with multibinder imo

[tulip spire]

I mean I just don’t get how it’s too slow it’s like almost instantaneous

[light swan]

im more used to the fast witch bind basically lol

[silver nacelle]

I might try using the pin badge with shaman.

Or put on the fractured mask.

[tulip spire]

Social distancing build

[light swan]

its not that i get hit, im just binding and im like "damn, is it over yet"

[silver nacelle]

Lol.

[plucky stag]

i used a healer's build (reserve bind, multibinder, warding bell)

[tulip spire]

Just use injector over warding bell imo

[plucky stag]

most people grow out of warding bell eventually but i kept it on because if you get heal cancelled you also deal a bit of damage too

[tulip spire]

Warding bell does like what 30

[silver nacelle]

Reaper all heals build: Druid's eyes, multibinder, injector bands.

[jade barn]

I ran druid eye + multibinder + injector band for most of my end game
I was pretty much unkillable

[tulip spire]

I’d rather get the heal off than a whopping one needle hit and change of damage

[silver nacelle]

Maybe this should be reaper's gimmick. Heal builds.

[light swan]

i really should try swapping injector band for warding bell ngl

[plucky stag]

this sort of strategy is why my playthrough was 170 hours

[silver nacelle]

I'm gonna try swapping it for pin badge.

[plucky stag]

i did not do things that optimally in my spoilerproof chamber

[candid kayak]

^

[cinder skiff]

I DID IT

[light swan]

or you can get the heal off AND triger the damage

[candid kayak]

the damage from warding bell used to be like

9...

[tulip spire]

Silence witch

[plucky stag]

if i ever replay the game i'll experiment more with other builds

go for something a bit more aggressive than safe

[candid kayak]

was a flat 9 originally I think
which is pretty unimpressive

[normal token]

Become the beast

[tulip spire]

It was 9 yeah lol. I think it’s like 31?

[normal token]

Now with an armour piercing bind

[candid kayak]

yessss beast crest run

[summer sigil]

They say my hunger's a problem

[candid kayak]

I think so yeah

[summer sigil]

they told me to curb my appetite

[tulip spire]

Which is still really unimpressive but not like literally useless

[summer sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-silksong-chef-lugoli-gif-2508664972939356009

[light swan]

9 is still super useful with needle 0

[candid kayak]

yeah, not useless but unimpressive and not at all worth deliberaly wasting a heal

[quick swan]

i did a speedrun with the beast crest from the beginning and its super fun

[candid kayak]

you know what does EVEN MORE damage than that, for less than half the silk cost?

Silkspear

[light swan]

imagine getting nearly 200% damage on your bind (if youre on needle 0)

[tulip spire]

It’s like two needle hits. I used wanderer until I got to the weavenest so that’s basically whatever

[candid kayak]

I wish you didn't lose all your silk when you got hit while binding, they should make it so you lose all your masks or something instead

[light swan]

lose 9 bars of silk not all of it

[candid kayak]

[tulip spire]

Wow it did the same damage I do in 0.4 seconds

[candid kayak]

bind gets interrupted, hornet immediately dies

[tulip spire]

And it only cost me 8 silk instead of 9

[plucky stag]

i don't deliberately waste my heals of course, it's just a nice bonus

[candid kayak]

but at least she didn't lose any silk

[light swan]

id truly ascend if i get good at optimally using warding bell for damage

[candid kayak]

the best thing about warding bell is the fact that it overhangs your heal by a tiny bit

[plucky stag]

what

[polar burrow]

SILKSONG CAME OUT?????

[tulip spire]

No

[plucky stag]

pov: you're still using internet explorer in 2025

[proud dove]

No

[candid kayak]

so you can get hit right as the heal ends, and warding bell will still block the hit

[candid kayak]

discord on a stone tablet

[plucky stag]

even though microsoft phased it out for edge years ago

[thin jewel]

w

[polar burrow]

IVE JUST SEEN GAMEPLAY FO IT ON TIKTOK

[candid kayak]

you are months late

[light swan]

im thinking of doing that for more damage on my hitless videos

[untold dune]

its been 2 months 🥀

[light swan]

misinformation and silkposts are everywhere on the internet, trust no oine\

[polar burrow]

WHY HAVENT IHEARD OF THIS

[tulip spire]

Real Microsoft patriots only use IE6 like Bill Gates (PBUH) intended

[normal token]

Nah we're silkposting, even TC is

[candid kayak]

living under a rock I guess

[untold dune]

tbf they did announce it only 2 weeks before release

[proud dove]

Do you live under a rock?

[candid kayak]

did you know you could've uh, wishlisted silksong on steam or something and gotten an email when it released

[polar burrow]

IM BUYING IT RN

[untold dune]

have fun

[quick swan]

yeah silksong is out go play it its awesome as fuck

[candid kayak]

btw this is the spoiler chat

[proud dove]

🪨

[candid kayak]

this chat is filled with spoilers be careful

[normal token]

This channel contains heavy ass spoilers unmarked btw

[quick swan]

silksong is my fav game currently. Maybe thatll change once i complete ds1

[vague willow]

lace becomes voided and is the final boss

[tulip spire]

Yeah I’d hate for them to learn about Zote’s fifth form

[candid kayak]

in other words, if you want to avoid spoilers, get out of this chat until you've beaten act 3

[untold dune]

no? that happens to sherma

[normal token]

Spoiling the cool act intro already smh

[candid kayak]

some might say "act 3" is a spoiler
to that I say better to know that than to think you've seen everything only to get spoiled on a huge portion of the game you didn't see yet

[untold dune]

i think theyre gone already lol

[vague willow]

absolute grandmother silk is the final boss of act 4

[proud dove]

Zotes dream battles were

UGH... Just UGH

[normal token]

True lol

[plucky stag]

i'd have worded that differently: "stay out until you've 100%'d the game"

[quick swan]

once i saw there were acts i was so impressed! I didnt know there would be anything past pharloom

[normal token]

(And even then tberes still things without 100%)

[tulip spire]

Do you think GPZ would be more tolerable with Hornet’s movement or would it still be a lethal joke fight

[candid kayak]

Act 2: Not Pharloom

[untold dune]

tbf by that point, if you havent found it on your own you probably wont

[summer sigil]

who is GPZ 🥀 🥀

[candid kayak]

grey prince zote

[light swan]

gay prince zote

[shadow oxide]

I finally beat act 3 after playing since the second the game launched

[summer sigil]

Grand Pather Zilk 🥀

[tulip spire]

Your lord and better

[normal token]

Watcher at the edge feels likr such a playground rumor ass boss

[candid kayak]

lmfao

[untold dune]

tbf somehow i did find that one by myself

[vague willow]

100%

[candid kayak]

mew under the truck

[plucky stag]

i used that logic for my own grand combs of pharloom; i only got to 92% before i decided that if i still haven't found the last 8% on my own i probably never will

[tulip spire]

Too bad he’s mid 💔

[vague willow]

i suspected something was there but I already forgot it when i got silk soar

[untold dune]

yeah this is fair logic

[untold dune]

i just never found that memory locket until act 3

[plucky stag]

unfortunately part of that 8% was the one really well hidden exit in vaults that leads you to the twisted bud and a flea

[summer sigil]

btw chat quick thing, but since godhome gave bosses an extra gimmick during the boss rush, what gimmick do you think each boss in this game will get in this game's equivalent

[normal token]

Honestly I was surprised that I found all craftmetal and memory lockets by myself

[untold dune]

hiding an entire crest behind that hidden entrance was certainly a choice tbh

[summer sigil]

me thinks, 2 savage beastflies

[plucky stag]

that one exit can legit guard up to 4% of progress by itself (witch crest, binding eva, fleaegg, pale oil)

[tulip spire]

A lot of no floor and spikes just like before

[vague willow]

bilewater savage beastfly

[plucky stag]

floorless lost mucked savage beastfly

[jade barn]

I think I found every collectible besides 2 tools by myself

[vague willow]

add absolute to that

[proud dove]

I'm confused why there's ACTS

Like I don't think symphonies have acts. They have "movements" or sections. Typically 4

Or maybe it's like a play? Like Trobbio? Plays typically have acts in them

I don't know. Probably over thinking it

[untold dune]

i still had to use guides to find remaining areas and such

[tulip spire]

Am I the only one who didn’t think that entrance was that secret? It’s a path going up a wall where the corner of the room is hidden by a curtain of course I’m going to check there

[plucky stag]

having completed in stars and time only a few months before silksong the fact that they divided the story up into acts made me smile a bit

[untold dune]

honestly it could go either way of having a deeper meaning or just "because story structure duh"

[plucky stag]

although the fact that the game cuts to credits after act 2 surprised me (which i feel was intentional)

[silver nacelle]

Okay, I've decided. The last piece of my shaman build is gonna be longclaw because why not.

[tulip spire]

Operas also have acts lol

[plucky stag]

it's like the game just cut off early for some reason; the acts structure make you expect an act 3 but it just doesn't come

[normal token]

Its essentially the same feeling as getting THK ending

[silver nacelle]

Might as well practice social distancing with the longest range crest.

[candid kayak]

I'm pretty sure I found the bud on my own

[proud dove]

A three act structure is very common in plays

[plucky stag]

and that's what gets you to come back to see if there is more

[light swan]

dont you get like 3 more pixels for shaman longclaw

[candid kayak]

and I immediately knew to bring the bud to greyroot, but I took a while before I got around to it lol

[untold dune]

yeah i think so too, never found the sinner road entrance to bilewater and only found it via vaults

[tulip spire]

Longclaw I think is only significant on reaper (for some reason, maybe for the laughs) and wanderer iirc

[candid kayak]

to be fair, the sinner's road entrance is hidden by a fake wall

[vague willow]

isn't sinners road entrance to bilewater the main entrance

[plucky stag]

by that point i was already taking nudges from twitch chat because i found the exit so late in the game

[untold dune]

"main entrance" is subjective

[candid kayak]

sorta but it's also behind a breakable wall

[vague willow]

no it's not

[candid kayak]

I saw the breakable wall immediately

[plucky stag]

thankfully witch crest quest in act 3 is slightly easier because you don't have to pony up a bunch of rosaries to get the spiny needles

[untold dune]

i never found the breakable wall and only found out abt it after 100%

[summer sigil]

tbf if it's not from sinners road then where?

[untold dune]

vaults

[tulip spire]

Vaults

[candid kayak]

vaults

[summer sigil]

ture

[proud dove]

Imagine if we get 2 more acts

Like an act 4 and 5

A five act is the traditional structure for classical plays

[untold dune]

also you are required to go through the vaults entrance at least once for twisted bud

[light swan]

theres no way vaults is the main entrance to bielwater 😭 wtf that shits so obscure

[summer sigil]

actually yea looking back it makes sense for bilewater to actually be an act 2 thing

[clear delta]

The room with the entrance is like stupid tricky

[untold dune]

my assumption is that there is no 'main entrance' to bilewater in lore because its literally a dumping ground

[summer sigil]

you only got to experience a demo of it in act 1 ngl

[clear delta]

I did use vaults entrance on my play through. I got to bilewater through the sinners road entrance beforehand but went back

[summer sigil]

tbf if that;s true, putrid ducts would be the main entrance then since they gotta dump stuff in there from somewhere

[vague willow]

it cannot be more obvious

[tulip spire]

I mean you have to go through a significant portion of it to do the mist if you don’t find the more hidden sinner’s road entrance

[untold dune]

except you cant enter bilewater via ducts at first, you can only unlock that shortcut after beating groal

[proud dove]

What do you guys think pharloom smells like

[candid kayak]

there's a breakable wall there though

depends on the area

[summer sigil]

oh wait right

[candid kayak]

overall, silk

[plucky stag]

i'm personally hoping for an epilogue where we get to explore the state of pharloom post haunting

[vague willow]

it's like a whole red carpet right infront of you with just a door for you to open and you saying "well the door was closed how was i meant to know"

[tulip spire]

Smog

[candid kayak]

uhh... not sure what THAT smells like though

[gloomy fjord]

I love palestag so much, my favourite boss in the entire game!

[untold dune]

i mean, depends on the area lol

[candid kayak]

yeah it's really obvious but still

[vague willow]

pretty shit since it's a bunch of bugs

[void moat]

im hoping for a past dlc, always bet on coral gorge

[untold dune]

https://tenor.com/view/miyothekid-the-substance-margaret-qualley-demi-moore-kick-gif-9485712188538459018

[void moat]

we need more of karak, the timeline is so fuzzy, it's annoying

[tulip spire]

Probably smells like smog and rotting vegetation

[vague willow]

ok bro we get it

[orchid locust]

we need the pharlooma universalis dlc

[plucky stag]

that's another idea; use the elegy of the deep to enter more memories

[candid kayak]

always bet on nothing that anyone here is betting on being in dlc

[vague willow]

oooo i have an idea

[gloomy fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-mew-boeshi-sigma-looksmaxxing-gif-13581087363054242055

[plucky stag]

that's how team cherry expands the game's content in an easy way

[vague willow]

krav maga crest

[untold dune]

truth i wanna do a wc as wormways

[candid kayak]

as it stands elegy is ONLY used for the hearts

[sharp tundra]

ye

[proud dove]

I wanna snap some bugs necks with hornet

[summer sigil]

would you eat bell beast for 5 rosaries

[tulip spire]

Snails teach you the murder song once again proving the snails are assholes

[agile jungle]

thank you i really needed this

[untold dune]

maybe for 6

[summer sigil]

that's too expensive for my wallet

[void moat]

heres one for the road

[untold dune]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[summer sigil]

i work in the underworks this was like 2 months worth of salary :(

[drifting pilot]

Shame it's not 5:33 seconds, unusable 💔

[sharp tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-silksong-dance-hornet-dance-hornet-silksong-gif-3654151901745923854

[light swan]

gonna turn this into an average reaper crest video

[untold dune]

clearly you're not pious enough

[tulip spire]

He should take confession imo

[untold dune]

you need to work overtime to repent for your sins

[void moat]

i hope we get karak dlc cause karak and khann's lore is way too fuzzy to actually make a timeline

[orchid locust]

fleatopia wc as emperor mooshka

[marble plover]

POV:yo lost your 400 rosaries in act 1 for a 500 rosarie key

[inland wind]

We need more reaper glaze gifs

[gloomy fjord]

Luckily I am romanian so you wont even have a wallet soon

[summer sigil]

do you think fleas are native to pharloom?

[untold dune]

why does citadel start with all institutions and bilewater start with 0 >:(

[tulip spire]

Is it? Wasn’t he just a big crab that then died at some point

[marble plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[untold dune]

yeah probs

[candid kayak]

allergic to floor

[tulip spire]

No they literally say they’re travelers

[summer sigil]

ik the fleas gng are like a travelling group but like, no way have they been here only recently since some of these fleas are like stuck in places so far away and some that def shows that they have been there for a long itme

[void moat]

no karak is pretty cool with some solid lore, some of my favorite in the game, the timeline is just really badly put together

[drifting pilot]

They seem to travel in large caravans so prolly not

[tulip spire]

Probably something like Romani where they have set places they go to

[marble plover]

The croc things in sinners road is basically the hard to kill lizard scp
(Without gore)

[raven tinsel]

What is Hornet referring to when she says this?

[summer sigil]

exactly but, some fleas have been in pharloom for a long time, like esp the big flea which was clarified to have been there for a long time

[void moat]

afaik the mini fleas were always in pharloom, and the caravan comes as a tradition to travel kingdoms, and they unite the present fleas during the travel, but the fleas couldnt come because of the harmful conditions ofpharloom

[untold dune]

eh i dont think so, they need to be informed of the pale lake after all

[gloomy fjord]

EW

[plucky stag]

i have to assume steel soul jinn

[normal token]

Jiji

[untold dune]

fym ew theyre a real people group

[tulip spire]

Uh no need to be racist brother

[marble plover]

Shaw

[gloomy fjord]

I know, I am romanian

[raven tinsel]

Ohhh, I was thinking it must have been a reference to Hollow Knight. I never did Steel Soul in Hollow Knight yet.

[tulip spire]

I mean it’d explain why some fleas are already there. If they regularly migrate through the area

[light swan]

nah this ones a better average reaper crest user gif

[untold dune]

ok and

[hot halo]

What are ya'll opinion on reaper crest?

[drifting pilot]

Jiji isn't in steel soul

[tulip spire]

It’s mediocre

[summer sigil]

trying to get into it, it's weird but it got potential

[untold dune]

overhated crest

[weary hatch]

Crest discourse my favorite oh yummy yum yum slop!

[summer sigil]

crest discourse or lace age discourse

[void moat]

i like reaper cause hornet becomes a quality farmer

[gloomy fjord]

I believe they have some really good people but most are not so good ✋ 🤚

[normal token]

Reaper should get buffed a lil

[tulip spire]

Do you think the reaper crest is a child

[hallow panther]

This is more like how reaper crest is meant to be used

[weary hatch]

where is the none option🥹✌️

[inland wind]

The guy who summoned the void creature?

[untold dune]

why is lace the worst crest?

[summer sigil]

erm. . the dead body oyu get the crest from is OBV of an adult so. . errrmmmm

[silver nacelle]

Okay, maybe I was wrong about longclaw on shaman.

[weary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-adele-instagram-live-adele-funny-adele-meme-adele-instagram-live-meme-gif-17749583282621837294

[untold dune]

longclaw kinda sucks imo, mark of pride is so much better

[summer sigil]

lace crest could be crazy tho lowk

wait wouldn't that just be hunter

[silver nacelle]

They literally have the same extension percentages.

[normal token]

Do we really have to fight reaper crest 3 times?

[hot halo]

new boss?

[tulip spire]

It varies by crest I thought

[untold dune]

no lace has a different identity to hornet, it would be different

[silver nacelle]

How much for shaman?

[summer sigil]

movesetwise i mean

maybe with a built in parry

[untold dune]

hornet can already parry as shown in the hk boss, we just cant in silksong because lol

[summer sigil]

phantom

[normal token]

I mean cross-stitch is the parry no?

[untold dune]

cross stitch isnt the same type of parrying

[tulip spire]

It’s 27% for all except witch which is for some reason 11%

[silver nacelle]

So it's mark of pride for shaman too. Neat.

[summer sigil]

would you play volleyball using a flea

[gloomy fjord]

Why do people not know the difference between romanian and romani🤨

[tulip spire]

I feel like longclaw feels less impactful since hornet can close distances faster

[untold dune]

flea volleyball would go hard actually

[runic adder]

I love getting pinged for messages I sent 2 months ago

[tulip spire]

Like I use two of the short range crests and I never feel like I need extra reach

[orchid locust]

flea baseball

[untold dune]

flea golf

[gloomy fjord]

But it’s for a good reason!

[runic adder]

[untold dune]

but the characters are like 2 inches tall so really thats like 100 miles

[summer sigil]

i rmember seeing someone say that he doesn't know other kingdoms exist apart from pharloom but the only thing he heard from it was from the weavers that said the place sucks ass so he just assumed so are all the other kingdoms

[gloomy fjord]

Anyway back to glazing reaper crest

[silver nacelle]

It felt less impactful with shaman's already huge range, but I think I appreciate the extra range now.

[silver salmon]

Sherma is a dumb character

[summer sigil]

YOU'RE a dumb character

[weary hatch]

Hes my lovely precious bumbling fool❤️‍🩹

[silver salmon]

He’s useless and an idiot

[wintry void]

I just finished silksong... The game gave me nothing but heartbreak. Why team cherry why

[summer sigil]

he;s literally a future leader of new pharloom 🥀

[weary hatch]

Me when i dont play silk song

[summer sigil]

ik this is ragebait but i just want to use this as an excuse to talk about him

[weary hatch]

Ofcccc yo uget it 😎😎

[silver salmon]

Tbh I’m just setting you all up

[summer sigil]

for?

[weary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silk-song-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-hornet-gif-9486712578214888028

[silver salmon]

Bene fren?

[dreamy kiln]

fa ri do la si ma net

[silver salmon]

What’s a good loadout for raging conch fly?

[summer sigil]

Reaper crest

[candid kayak]

Needle, Drifter's Cloak, Tool Pouch

[plucky stag]

pov: hornet just freed pharloom from the haunting and is now ready to undertake the long walk home

[summer sigil]

ok but fr delver's drill can go crazy during that fight

[candid kayak]

can it?

[summer sigil]

actually now that i think about it

[candid kayak]

seems like you'd be hard pressed to land a hit from above

[summer sigil]

what happens after she kills GMS

[summer sigil]

would all the "revived" citadel enemies be dead again

[silver salmon]

What should I use for tools tho

[candid kayak]

probably yeah

[candid kayak]

doesn't matter much
use what you'd usually use

[summer sigil]

long claw if you can, delver's drill, lucky dice maybe, silk storm

[candid kayak]

aka "Injector Band and Multibinder"

eww longclaw

[summer sigil]

point is the boss has alot of momments where they stand mostly still so there's alot of big hitting stuff there

https://tenor.com/view/mind-control-mkultra-cat-cat-grabbed-attack-gif-3791628660102132848

[plucky stag]

probably, but unlike in hallownest a significant portion of pharloomians were still alive

[tall yoke]

cheese strategies for ||forebrothers signis and gron?|| anyone?

[candid kayak]

nail extensions in the first game were already a drug, in silksong longclaw is nigh pointless, given how much you're moving around you have zero excuse for not getting a few pixels closer

[candid kayak]

no cheese, just kill one first

[summer sigil]

yea but most of the enemies in the citadel are like already dead tho, like you literally see their corpses get strung up and revived in real time

[tall yoke]

DANGIT

[summer sigil]

2 dmg scary :(

[candid kayak]

kill the summons so they're not distracting you

[plucky stag]

i see; i thought you said pharloom, sorry

[candid kayak]

your needle has plenty of reach already, and longclaw isn't increasing it by much lmao

[silver nacelle]

I use longclaw because it's the best tool for my third blue. It's good enough for keeping distance.

[candid kayak]

try taking it off though, it'll be no different

[summer sigil]

longer reach is better than, idk summoning fireballs that misses half the time

[wooden laurel]

Poison tacks
Lots of them
All the poison tacks
Don’t bother with the enemies they summon they always just kill themselves

[graceful oyster]

If you learn their patterns really well you can move and attack in a way they don't kill you, it's super helpful actually. Cheese that applies to any boss, actually. I'm surprised the playtesters didn't catch it

[candid kayak]

well of course you don't use THAT

[silver nacelle]

The difference isn't that big but it's noticeable.

[candid kayak]

multibinder and injector band

[summer sigil]

i love sinclair limbus company so much i want to kiss him

[tall yoke]

u dont need to be like that yk

[graceful oyster]

I know, but I am

[tall yoke]

its what ive been doing...

[silver nacelle]

Yeah, but I don't heal ;-;

[graceful oyster]

👉🏿👈🏿

[candid kayak]

remember that the smaller conchflies in the boss fight are basically just projectiles, they attack once and despawn

[tall yoke]

dont @ me anymore if u are gonna be rude

[wooden laurel]

Just stay in the air and move slightly right to become virtually invincible to their attacks

[untold dune]

just had a random idea for a tool synergy, claw mirror and warding bell, when you finish binding the warding bell also explodes the same way if you get interrupted

[graceful oyster]

[candid kayak]

hit the bouncing projectile to knock it in the opposite direction

[wooden laurel]

Add the multi binder too

[graceful oyster]

That would be neat, I'm surprised it doesn't do that already

[wooden laurel]

I wish nyleths boss fight was harder icl

[proud dove]

She was

[tall yoke]

if only the run back wasnt shit!

[proud dove]

Underwhelming

[wooden laurel]

What run back there’s a bench 2 rooms over?

[graceful oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silk-song-silksong-skong-gif-9056276688868888316

[tall yoke]

are u kidding me

[graceful oyster]

I also wish it was harder

[quartz shell]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-beast-gif-7167947808925894620

[candid kayak]

try the uh, bellway bench

[wooden laurel]

I used beast crest against nyleth bro (I am an architect main I can’t lie)

[candid kayak]

then you just climb up and go left

[wooden laurel]

It’s the one you get at the start of the underworks

[candid kayak]

what

[tall yoke]

i dont see no bench near by

[graceful oyster]

That's not even close what

[wooden laurel]

I’m talking about nyleth/seths fight

[candid kayak]

that's not underworks smh

[quartz shell]

thats deepdocks brother

[tall yoke]

i was talking about the forebrothers.

[candid kayak]

you've clearly gotten mixed up

[wooden laurel]

Oh ok

There’s like a path straight down to them you can open

And a bench in that weird spa thing too

[graceful oyster]

Forebrothers runback is like 12 seconds long

[candid kayak]

spa is after them

[mellow venture]

tru

[wooden laurel]

Oh fr?

[orchid locust]

damn swift really increased his budget

[quartz shell]

the spa is accessed after their defeat

[wooden laurel]

Just don’t die ig

[untold dune]

now imagine forebrothers runback but you never used the simple key

[graceful oyster]

Can you even get to them without it?

[mellow venture]

that is pretty close

[untold dune]

yeah theres the warding bell entrance

[candid kayak]

there is no runback open your eyes

[tall yoke]

i cant go through there

[light swan]

playing other crests has made me rusty at witch

[candid kayak]

yes you can, open it from below silly

[mellow venture]

isn't there a substitute pathway in far fields? Might be thinking about another part of deepdocks tho

[quartz shell]

you are correct

[candid kayak]

far right of the area though

[graceful oyster]

MORE PRACTICE. You've been prescribed 40 more hours of boss grinding with Witch

[untold dune]

deep docks shouldnt have been a simple key location imo, since you can access all of it without the key anyway

[candid kayak]

down.

[quartz shell]

go down

[graceful oyster]

I always thought that was a breakable wall

[candid kayak]

you're UP when the map shows a path downwards

[wooden laurel]

It’s a short cut

[candid kayak]

it unlocks part of it

[untold dune]

entire simple key slot for a shortcut seems wasted

[sterile seal]

ouhhhhjjhkkk 2 am skonging

[candid kayak]

there's more than just the shortcut I think

[untold dune]

nah you can literally access every part of it without key

[candid kayak]

like uhhh... can you get flintslate without the key I don't remember?

[tall yoke]

huh i aint trying to go to the boss im tryna show u i cant get through the gate to the bench

[wooden laurel]

Get what?

[mellow venture]

Yeap you can iirc

[quartz shell]

the tool

[light swan]

...its not working how i thought it would

[candid kayak]

oh, unlock that from the other side with a simple key

[wooden laurel]

What tool?

[mellow venture]

The flintslate can also be accessed even without the simple key

[tall yoke]

ohhhhh

[candid kayak]

flintslate

[quartz shell]

a tool found in dd that increases dps

[tall yoke]

ty

[candid kayak]

fire damage on needle

[sterile seal]

ah yes, gim troupe

[wooden laurel]

it does what?
Beast crest bind+flintslate and barbed bracelet here I come

[untold dune]

you have to do this lol but yeah you can

[candid kayak]

• flea brew

[quartz shell]

add fleabrew in there

[candid kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-beast-gif-7167947808925894620

[sterile seal]

that area down there sucked the first time

[quartz shell]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-skong-gif-16335370890033522618

[wooden laurel]

I can only fit one red tool and I’m not doing steel soul for extra slots

[light swan]

:D

[sterile seal]

i really want to find just who uses witch crest

[grizzled sierra]

isn’t that dead bugs purse?

[wooden laurel]

I do

[arctic epoch]

Hows the hunter gif?

[untold dune]

thats in wormways what

[candid kayak]

...for extra slots?

okay thank you chat for scrolling down as I click

[silver nacelle]

You're under abusing the bind here.

Some people would go as far as to get hit to get i-frames so they can bind on top of a boss.

[grizzled sierra]

I forgor but it’s warding bell right?

[sterile seal]

yes, :D for extra slots

[candid kayak]

take 2:

for extra slots??

[untold dune]

warding bell is in far fields

[wooden laurel]

Yes
Steel soul ofc makes dead bugs purse useless so you get a tool they gives you an extra red tool instead

[sterile seal]

magma bell perchance idk

[candid kayak]

shell satchel doesn't give you extra slots it just lets you hold more red tool USES at a time

[mellow venture]

Beast crest only has 1 tool slot? I thought it had 2

[wooden laurel]

Oh mb

[untold dune]

it has 2

[candid kayak]

wrong

[grizzled sierra]

this img u sent

[light swan]

i kinda did it? idrk i dont think so

[candid kayak]

beast crest also has 2 red slots unlocked by default

[untold dune]

what question are you asking

[silver nacelle]

Illusion2 not knowing how to maximally abuse the witch bind build feels funny to me.

[light swan]

its the timing thats offputting me

[arctic epoch]

Flea Brew yield very minimal benefits, it doesn't make that much of a difference if you run Flint Slate-only

[wise flame]

3 with shell snatchel

[grizzled sierra]

that line ends/starts at warding bell*

[wooden laurel]

As I said I am NEVER doing steel soul half my strategy is using reserve bind,a cocoon and repairing tools to spam as many tools as fast as possible

[sterile seal]

first winner

[light swan]

im trying to force a warding bell at the end and its weird

[untold dune]

no it starts at warding bell

[grizzled sierra]

I am dumb

[candid kayak]

it's not about efficiency, it's about maximizing

[untold dune]

lol

[split cape]

Pharloom aint got shit against this

[wise flame]

Ykw you are probably

[arctic epoch]

-> if you want to use that extra flea brew, you do you

[sterile seal]

i cast that one stupid crow

[candid kayak]

easy baby enemy

[quartz shell]

there is an item exclusive to steel soul that gives you regenerative shards

[untold dune]

cant wait for spit squit with machine gun mod

[grizzled sierra]

okay who gave it a minigun it was already hard enough

[sterile seal]

gau-8 squitvenger

[silver nacelle]

You don't need timing. You need to go insane.

Jump into the boss and use the i-frames of the one mask you lose to unleash the bind.

You lose one mask, but get back 3.

[wooden laurel]

I AM doing steel soul

[candid kayak]

personally I just... use normal red tools like cogflies or straight pin lol

[frank prism]

High halls not on S
Bruh come on

[light swan]

thats not my point nor is it usable in hitless

[wooden laurel]

Who tf uses straight pin?

[grizzled sierra]

I see no difference expect for the fact that there’s letters on hornet

[quartz shell]

insane switchup 😭

[candid kayak]

it's fucking excellent you're sleeping on it

[frank prism]

High halls is the best track hands down

[arctic epoch]

Beast + Flint Slate + Druids eyes trivialize like.. most bosses

[silver nacelle]

Yes, but you're not going hitless.

[sterile seal]

-# noted

[frank prism]

💔

[quartz shell]

tacks, cogflies and curvesickle are the way to go

[candid kayak]

lots of uses, reasonable damage, long range

[frank prism]

I mean it would've helped to hear every track before ranking them

[normal token]

Link to this?

[wooden laurel]

I remember going down one spike fall and getting cogflies and that’s it for high halls

[grizzled sierra]

y’all what was hardest boss (not including gauntlets before them)

[frank prism]

Lost lace

[wise flame]

Nobodys reading allat bruh

[sterile seal]

as well as the hellish arena

[arctic epoch]

Karmelita / LL

[silver salmon]

Widow

[light swan]

weirdass timings 🙁 i dont think it works

[grizzled sierra]

how

[frank prism]

Karmelita is so cheesable idk

[untold dune]

LL

[light swan]

🤦‍♂️

[silver salmon]

I had problems with her

[frank prism]

You can just damage tank her with wanderer

[wooden laurel]

First sinner but I was running beast and barbed bracelet so that probably made it worse

[silver nacelle]

Are you trying to go hitless?

[grizzled sierra]

yeah it was a easy fight

[light swan]

getting hit right as it ends

[candid kayak]

bone bottom forgettable...

[silver salmon]

I also had problems with bell beast

[wooden laurel]

It was easy ye but having almost all my hp eviscerated because I got hit with half a pixel of a slash made it harder

[split cape]

500 flashbangs

[candid kayak]

oh my god-

[wooden laurel]

Moss charger you mean?

[silver salmon]

Bell beast

[grizzled sierra]

running with bracelet is just a death wish tbh

[wooden laurel]

So moss charger

[frank prism]

Bell beast popping out of the ground has an unexpected hitbox ngl

[grizzled sierra]

moss charger but harder you mean?

[wooden laurel]

Moss charger but with one projectile

[candid kayak]

it's a good one but I suppose if you've been in act 3 for a while it can slip from your memory

[silver salmon]

Anyways can we get back with the widow boss

[light swan]

I THINK I PULLED IT OFF TWICE

[wooden laurel]

Widow was easy as hell

[candid kayak]

since bone bottom is uh, gone

[grizzled sierra]

okay how was it hard the grimm attacks or the bells?

[frank prism]

gg

[silver salmon]

The bells

[clear delta]

What's with the 1hp

[wooden laurel]

Just hit them

[mellow venture]

Holy hell I forgot bone bottom was incinerated

[wooden laurel]

What bone bottom there never was one

[normal token]

This game's boss themes clear anything else ngl

[silver nacelle]

I see. I think that's more of a position issue. Just to be sure, does it happen if you bind next to them?

[candid kayak]

lmfao

[grizzled sierra]

why is there so much musical stuff it’s not like the game is called silksong

[split cape]

If we get something similar to fury of the fallen its so fucking over

[wooden laurel]

There is only ruined chapel

[candid kayak]

a lot of music tracks I just don't know because like

[silver salmon]

I have a problem with your list

[candid kayak]

at least for me, oftentimes boss music kinda just falls upon deaf ears for me

[split cape]

dawg

[candid kayak]

like I'm too focused on the fight to be processing the music most of the time

[grizzled sierra]

true it is dawg

[wooden laurel]

There should be an option to leave without lace in the void

[candid kayak]

unless the music is more intense or whatever

[grizzled sierra]

now add the babies

[frank prism]

That's so evil wtf

[clear delta]

Also I think the default volume mixing could be a bit better

[candid kayak]

unfortunately gms is your ticket to escape

[wooden laurel]

Take GMS silk too

[frank prism]

We love lace

[normal token]

W build for an all bosses run? (Tfw I got no idea for my third yellow slot)

[candid kayak]

drop lace right before you ascend

[split cape]

GMS aint gonna let you go LMFAO

[grizzled sierra]

you not gonna use compass cuz it’s to op?

[candid kayak]

idk, magnetite brooch

[light swan]

@silver nacelle 182 DAMAGE IN ONE BIND

[candid kayak]

free rosaries my beloved

[split cape]

I FUCKING HATE LACE I WANT TO BEAT HER UP SO MUCH THAT I'LL SEE HER SOUL FLOAT OUT OF HER BODY LIKE A CARTOON CHARACTER

[sweet scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N0DPX9Plk4g
saw ts while doomscrolling

[frank prism]

[candid kayak]

||Khights||

[grizzled sierra]

ok we sentence you to hardlock

[untold dune]

the madman did it again

[sturdy wraith]

Hunters memento today IS REALL

[frank prism]

Legend

[candid kayak]

woo

[wraith dragon]

HOW

[silver nacelle]

By god. How long did it take you to pull this off?

[light swan]

i need to heal SUPER low and close to the enemy i think

[frank prism]

Did he use the key route?

[quartz shell]

https://tenor.com/view/mussie-10-mussie-10-sga-gif-17901019422677699145

[untold dune]

that is so much slower than just fighting lace 1 by a lot

[light swan]

not long, im just learning it rn and im stopping to go to sleep but i don’t really think this is that rng based and more positioning based

[untold dune]

judge is faster now

[frank prism]

I thought it was supposed to skip like 50 seconds

[grizzled sierra]

how

[frank prism]

[silver nacelle]

Neat.

[split cape]

I think the main reason is that you gotta guess which way is correct for the mist and that loses time

[light swan]

average witch crest user

[sweet scarab]

i can imagine it as a wishiwashi school form

[grizzled sierra]

don’t bells take a bit to grab

[sweet scarab]

but instead of a whale its just a larger flea

[grizzled sierra]

should be longer then mist route

[winged compass]

I love me a good bind

[split cape]

You can skip them by leaving and reentering

[quartz shell]

you can exit the room and re enter to skip the animation

[grizzled sierra]

I forgor

[native osprey]

Hey guys I’m back

I finally progressed

[grizzled sierra]

I used the craws to skip the craws

[native osprey]

Before I was stuck on moorwing

[tall yoke]

I BEAT THE FORE BROTHERS

[grizzled sierra]

which act

[native osprey]

Now Ive just finished cogwork dancers 😆

[tall yoke]

act 2

[native osprey]

I’m quite sure it’s act 2

[grizzled sierra]

good for you

[sweet scarab]

good for you

[grizzled sierra]

you can leave til act 3

[native osprey]

Oh

[winged compass]

do they get voided in act 3 lol

or the magma slugs

[wraith dragon]

Holy flashbang

[grizzled sierra]

only minions they spawn

[winged compass]

Big oof

[sweet scarab]

on about what blocky posted,
yall see it right

[grizzled sierra]

but the lava is useful for killing them

[haughty nebula]

i cant beat last judge even with the pale steel needle💔

[winged compass]

The Fleamind boss when

[winged compass]

Skill issue beyond measure

[mellow venture]

Peak stuff bro, the cogwork core has got a really fire ost and fun platforming

[winged compass]

cogwork core's theme is so good

[haughty nebula]

yeah i edit my save file i knew it already

[haughty nebula]

and 9 masks

[soft belfry]

I did it with 1 upgrade and no tools lol

[grizzled sierra]

I was about to say you cant get the pale steel needle in act 2

[haughty nebula]

what i thought i was still in act 1

[haughty nebula]

im js bad

[grizzled sierra]

wait u don’t have grand bellway

[untold dune]

well you can fight last judge in act 2 if you do mist to skip them

[fossil socket]

Hai how do I er beat kermit sob

[sweet scarab]

kermitlita?

[haughty nebula]

whats that

[sturdy wraith]

Flea for your life

[soft belfry]

I am kinda bad too, last judge is actually easy, she just has very weird tells

[grizzled sierra]

groal or bilewater

[sweet scarab]

PLAY THE FUCKING GAME

[fossil socket]

No uh the frog thing in hell groal mb

[mellow venture]

WHAT

[haughty nebula]

calm down gl_cro

[soft belfry]

5 masks no lava bell, I was crashing out

[grizzled sierra]

ah you mean bilewater

[sturdy wraith]

Uh no how abt underworks

[haughty nebula]

which bellway

[sweet scarab]

use the water its easy

[soft belfry]

Citadel one

[fossil socket]

Oh no

[grizzled sierra]

it fucking burns

[haughty nebula]

i have a bellway in blasted steps tho

[fossil socket]

OKay thank youz

The highhalls trials thingy was way easier sob

[soft belfry]

Should be act 1 then?

[native osprey]

No I don’t like the poop water 💩

[sweet scarab]

ok heres the strat
just use the thread storm for the stilkins (the 2 shooters)
and pogo the stilkin trappers (tall guys)
for groal, you just camp the water

[haughty nebula]

yeah, but it also does double damage for most of its attacks and a little unpredictable

[grizzled sierra]

wrong person

[haughty nebula]

im still in act 1 by my current knowledge

[sweet scarab]

fuck

[soft belfry]

Yeah it's kinda crazy, it has an attack in the middle, you have to not chase it

[sweet scarab]

ok heres the strat
just use the thread storm for the stilkins (the 2 shooters)
and pogo the stilkin trappers (tall guys)
for groal, you just camp the water
there the right person

[fossil socket]

Okay thankss a lotz

[sweet scarab]

np gng

[haughty nebula]

i got to the part where it uses fire for the bell attacks (dunno how to say it)

[grizzled sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-minor-s-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-10940848928744248792

[fossil socket]

Dis is how I type smh

[grizzled sierra]

stay right next to it when you kill it

[fossil socket]

NO LIGHT PTSD STOP GAH

[haughty nebula]

dwhat happens if i do

[mellow venture]

🤫

[sweet scarab]

special gift

[grizzled sierra]

it lights up all arena expect its self

[mellow venture]

free mask shard

[haughty nebula]

oh

[grizzled sierra]

so you gotta be close to the judge after killing it

[mellow venture]

[haughty nebula]

but what

[grizzled sierra]

I cant wait to get pinged on how helpful Í was in a couple of days

[fossil socket]

SAME

[grizzled sierra]

you ran away from the judge?

damn can’t believe you died for not staying in same spot

[fossil socket]

Im tryna play elden ring and silksong together sob its hardfd

[lament lotus]

ISSHIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[fossil socket]

HALLO1

[quick swan]

waited until i finished silksong before i started ds1

[fossil socket]

Oo fair

[grizzled sierra]

dollow snight 1

[mellow venture]

Wait does dying to last judge death sequence restart the fight tho

[fossil socket]

I just did da promised consort sob

[grizzled sierra]

yeah only if u your not close to the judge

[mellow venture]

oh bro that sucks 😭

[haughty nebula]

i took 3 ENTIRE DOUBLE DAMAGE HITS IN A ROW AJKHDEGA;LKH DFG

[undone gate]

Yea it's a good thing it's for last judge since once you learn the fight it's super easy on replays

[undone gate]

How

[haughty nebula]

save file edited for 9 masks

[mellow venture]

what boss r u on

[haughty nebula]

last judge

[soft belfry]

You using magma bell? It halves fire dmg

[haughty nebula]

no

[candid kayak]

maybe consider it

you buy it from forge daughter

[haughty nebula]

where is it

[mellow venture]

yea the magma bell helped a lot, unless youre getting hit through contact damage

[candid kayak]

forge daughter

in deep docks

[terse forum]

Tbf last judge is kinda easy even without magma bell

[candid kayak]

everything's hard on the first playthrough though

yeah

[undone gate]

On replays last judge is so easy but first time she is challangeing

[light swan]

heh… not bad.

[candid kayak]

especially with them catching you off guard with the spin attack (honestly, just expect them to do the spin attack)

[mellow venture]

Imo it all comes down to learning attack patterns and knowing when hits are appropriate

[candid kayak]

yeah

don't try to cram in more hits than you can, since you'll get hit

[terse forum]

Not really
Moss mothers boss fights I first tried
Fourth chorus took me 2
Dancer fights were 4 each
And everyone eles excluding beast fly 1 and karmoleta only took me 30 mins to an hour

[undone gate]

You can still dodge when your close to it but for new players it's really fast

[candid kayak]

moss mother is first try yeah

[grizzled sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-skong-gif-16335370890033522618

[candid kayak]

naturally, especially if you've played hollow knight

[terse forum]

Actually scratch that I 2 tried gms

[terse forum]

I haven't
Silksongs my first metro

[candid kayak]

in general you might be uh

really good at games

[severe schooner]

You really should

[undone gate]

I beat all Act 1 bosses in under 5 tries except moorwing, Widow and Last

[terse forum]

Ik but that won't be till Christmas prolly

[carmine yarrow]

Man very noice

[candid kayak]

mmm

[carmine yarrow]

Almost hitting 30 hour achievement

[terse forum]

I'm a fast learner

[candid kayak]

fair, fair

[undone gate]

Moorwing took like 7 tries while both Last Judge and Widow took me way longer

[grizzled sierra]

[plucky stag]

it does, and i did get caught in the blast

thankfully i had enough health at the end of the fight to survive it

[candid kayak]

yeah if you die in the explosion you have to redo the fight LMAO

never happened to me but I think it happened to my friend lmao

[undone gate]

Most games make you better at other games the more games you play the easier other games will feel

[candid kayak]

yeahhh

[plucky stag]

i think i would have ruined my voice if i did die to the final blast

[undone gate]

I still don't know how people fall for that

[terse forum]

I celebrated to early

[candid kayak]

hmm yes, it looks like they're about to explode

[grizzled sierra]

yeah all u gotta do is stay close to the judge

[candid kayak]

maybe I should run away

[snow raft]

Anyone knows a shop in Tokyo that sells HK merch?

[undone gate]

Widow should have thought you not to do that

[candid kayak]

people assuming they won because they got knocked down

[plucky stag]

i think there's a permanent fangamer setup in tokyo but i'm not sure

[candid kayak]

yeah widow is there to teach you not to celebrate early

[terse forum]

Ohestly widows fight made first sinner really fucking easy for me
Only took like 4 attempts at most

[candid kayak]

especially when the boss is still making a lot of vocalization

[grizzled sierra]

you did it 4th try I did it 2nd

[undone gate]

Even I beat first sinner pretty easily
Widow is like the first really hard boss

[winged compass]

No hitting widow was so fun but it taking 6 hours was so painful lol

idfk why I did that without getting barbed bracelet at least

[gloomy fjord]

Nah the fight is just easy

[terse forum]

I'd argue savage beast fly

[undone gate]

I beat him in 3 tries not that hard

[winged compass]

savage beastfly is just annoying because of adds

just wait for it to move first

[terse forum]

The fucker took me 4 hours

[gloomy fjord]

Ur bad, I beat it first try(I was act 2)

[candid kayak]

which beastfly though

[terse forum]

1

2 was easier cause of the fact that his adds were consistent

[soft belfry]

I died at least 5 times

[undone gate]

He has like 2 attacks and he kills his own minions

[candid kayak]

forget savage beastfly, fight this thing instead

[undone gate]

2 is way harder without double jump

[marsh crater]

you can go out of the room in 2

[terse forum]

I did it without double jump in like an hour

[candid kayak]

savage beastfly 2 is easy

Tarmite, on the other hand, is not

and savage beastfly 2 spawns tarmites

kill them immediately and the fight should go a lot smoother

[undone gate]

Tarmites are so annoying especially when he summons 2 of them

[gloomy fjord]

Survive this instead https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1424111649887097004/bilefly.mp4?ex=6916d614&is=69158494&hm=e5d64213f0fb0ffcf1cfdbfbb689491780a3809fdb6e2fb59bde0c2d8271a887&

[silver salmon]

Hegale

[candid kayak]

oh god

[zealous valley]

wow bilewater was so fucking good that they had to put a boss that does 4 damage per hit to make it even better

[terse forum]

By then tho I had access to cog flys and the bigger area and extra down time I had from.him going into the lava made them easier to deal with
Beast fly 1 tho was a smaller area with adds that sting trap couldn't get down enough for me to one hit them

[candid kayak]

me when stop wearing the fucking barbed bracelet dummy

[exotic cedar]

Sharpdart really helps with that

[zealous valley]

im not wearing it dummy

[sharp tundra]

Why it spawns PD flies

[clear delta]

Then who tf is doing 4 damage per hit

[undone gate]

I didn't have cogflys when I first tried savage beastly 2 but still it definitely worce than the first fight as the boss rarely kills the tarmites

[candid kayak]

nothing deals 4 damage

[gloomy fjord]

Because it would have been too forgettable otherwise!

[zealous valley]

I literally had 3 masks and one is the double mask one, I got grabbed and insta killed

[undone gate]

By what

[candid kayak]

final bosses have attacks that deal 3 masks of damage

[terse forum]

They're easier than the big bay blade dudes 1 summons tho

[mellow venture]

whatever ur fighting must be a missile bro

[gloomy fjord]

You mean groal when he eats you

[undone gate]

The boss kills the big blade dudes himself

[candid kayak]

or a barnak

[zealous valley]

yes

[gloomy fjord]

Groal eating attack can do infinite damage

[candid kayak]

yes

[plucky stag]

i just hope that as the game expands it will still be possible to do a day one steel soul run

as in get 100% but don't get anything that was added after day one

[candid kayak]

but only 2 if you're actually pressing buttons

[plucky stag]

in hollow knight it's impossible to do a day one steel soul run because of hive knight

[zealous valley]

ok

[light swan]

which one is better for a gif

[plucky stag]

hive knight gives a percentage but you have to defeat him to pick up hiveblood

[candid kayak]

mash attack button to get out of groal's mouth

[candid kayak]

hiveblood is such wasted opportunity

4 notches for slow and only heals 1 mask, it could've been so much better...

it could've been usable, but they opted to make it really weak AND cost 4 notches

[untold dune]

shouldve just been 3 notches

[gloomy fjord]

The first one

[narrow isle]

isnt letting groal eat you a good strat to win

[urban robin]

Ive seen the fan mucked beastfly fight and I think they should add that in act 3 bilewater and when it slams on the ground it summons ass jims muck balls while summoning stiltkins

[candid kayak]

that's an issue with most 4 notch charms

deep focus, for example

[terse forum]

Rarely killed them for me

[plucky stag]

at that point it's more of a meme bossfight than something constructive

[zealous valley]

no way i have to do the arena all over again to get to the boss righ

[terse forum]

Anyway chat rate my terilist

[urban robin]

For silktheon godhome every boss should infect you with muckmaggots for fun

[candid kayak]

quick focus lets you heal faster with no drawback, 3 notches

deep focus makes you heal slower AND costs 4 notches

[zealous valley]

can this place get any fucking worse

[exotic cedar]

Not smashing the lava twinks is crazy...

[peak nymph]

Well well well

[plucky stag]

is this groal?

[light swan]

alr

[gloomy fjord]

And bosses that summon should summon putrified ducts mosquitos that are lost

[peak nymph]

WELL WELL WELL

[urban robin]

Not first sinner really

[zealous valley]

yes

[exotic cedar]

I fucking love bilewater

[urban robin]

Survive my gauntlet.

[mellow venture]

once the arena is over you can embrace the muckmaggots and steer clear out of most of goals attacks unless the dude just comes lunging head first into whatever spot you're on

[terse forum]

Nah
Widows better

[peak nymph]

WELL WELL WELL

[zealous valley]

i dont understand anything of what you just said

[exotic cedar]

Groal dies instantly with voltvessels

[gloomy fjord]

Survive my poison cogflies.

[terse forum]

This is my actual terilist tho

[plucky stag]

i almost read that wrong and thought you were some enthusiastic microsoft fangirl

[exotic cedar]

Its my go to strat fighting groal

[plucky stag]

at this point i'm just on windows because i'm too deep in the walled garden

[peak nymph]

WELL WELL WELL

[dreamy kiln]

smash to all

[severe ermine]

Oh my god I'm so tired of flea games

[plucky stag]

fourth chorus isn't that bad

[karmic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/همم-gif-21570043

[urban robin]

Palestag above beastfly is crazy

[terse forum]

He was disappointing

[narrow isle]

why is moorwing an S tier

[exotic cedar]

WHY the fourth chorus hate

[untold dune]

beastfly haters are on another level

[plucky stag]

i enjoyed his fight because of what he represents; a tutorial for the mary poppins ability

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-sk-skong-silksong-gif-10584794009593226309 seems like this is uploaded

[terse forum]

Cause he's a good fight

[plucky onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/etos-special-gif-26302028

[exotic cedar]

Fourth chorus proves that a boss doesn't have to be hard to be fun

[grizzled sierra]

the attacks peak theme peak everything was peak including the design it’s a s tier boss

[karmic sinew]

Demon Slayer I see

[grand adder]

Ayo chat. Whats the best shaman crest build?

[plucky onyx]

:)

[grizzled sierra]

yeah this is a better tier list

[light swan]

@keen solstice i have no idea why the beast one is still processing 😭this pisses me off

[vast summit]

beastfly and fourth chorus don't deserve this slander

[terse forum]

Didn't use it

[narrow isle]

i hope they make a harder version of the fight in the godhome

[karmic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-slayer-kny-anime-fire-tanjiro-gif-16404193

[exotic cedar]

Well if people send their tierlist i will send mine too :D

[plucky onyx]

[terse forum]

Should have been better then

[plucky stag]

i have mine too

[zealous valley]

is bilewater optional or mandatory

[dreamy kiln]

mandatory

[exotic cedar]

Mandatory for act 3

[plucky onyx]

tbh when i came up w the name i didnt even know that 'DemonSlayer' was a thing

[opaque vortex]

guys i burned my hornet... wisp thicket

[grizzled sierra]

optional in older patches

[karmic sinew]

Wild

[dreamy kiln]

lower wanderer range

[candid kayak]

not required to get an ending, required for entering act 3

[plucky onyx]

ikr

[zealous valley]

i dont even know how they could think of a place this shit

[soft belfry]

Fourth chorus is crazy on first playthrough but useless later

[sharp tundra]

Guys how do I fix the big ''i''

[plucky onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/fatality-mortal-kombat-kombat-mortal-scorpion-gif-15181418235053402886

[vast summit]

and caramelita, first sinner, second sentinel, clockwork dancers, shakra, etc

[grizzled sierra]

act 3 has an ending so it is required for a ending

[plucky stag]

here's mine (i didn't bother to include the non-bosses the tierlist template includes)

[candid kayak]

AN ending as in not all endings

[grizzled sierra]

still

[silver nacelle]

For me: volt filament, weavelight, longclaw/injector bands/any blue you like and compass.

[plucky stag]

ah yes, the turkish language, where the dot over the i is used to determine vowels

[silver nacelle]

Yes, compass is necessary.

[sharp tundra]

i wanna fix it

[grizzled sierra]

dude that’s overkill

[candid kayak]

no, magnetite brooch is necessary

[plucky onyx]

compass best

[silver nacelle]

I know, but I'm too addicted to compass.

[plucky stag]

i feel i have too many in the c tier, mostly because i used it as a dumping ground for bosses i didn't have any strong feelings towards