sk-discussion

[hexed sigil]

Sounds similar Ill count that I guess pretty cool though

[silver nacelle]

Far fields.

[zenith lagoon]

i skipped lace cuz i had beast pogo but i forgot where sprint is

[royal furnace]

Drill one shots every enemy in groal arena

[errant lynx]

Yes

[silver nacelle]

Lmao.

[orchid locust]

i love the Subtle Bloom Effect from spamming voltvessels so much

[zenith lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-floppy-hornet-slap-nuu-gif-11086988873395759079

[errant lynx]

Yeah but throwing rings has a lot of charges and it's poshanka

[zenith lagoon]

valve?!

[silver nacelle]

Oh, crap. Was it deep docks?

[zenith lagoon]

i should give credit maybe

[errant lynx]

[zenith lagoon]

i dont know pluh i forgot

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1432906308230582393/fleadom_motif.gif

[errant lynx]

It's time

[silver nacelle]

Lmao.

[zenith lagoon]

fleadom motif is hella funny i think my humor is broken

[silver nacelle]

Reply to them with this meme.

[errant lynx]

500 cogflies
Let's go

[broken stratus]

is that mfing esquie?

[zenith lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/spamtenna-spamton-spamton-g-spamton-tenna-mr-ant-tenna-gif-9687341437388464900

[errant lynx]

to bilehaven we go

[silver nacelle]

Okeh.

[orchid locust]

what's the rent in bilehaven

[zenith lagoon]

chat what crest should i do after beast only

[silver nacelle]

Negative 2 rosaries.

[heavy grail]

playing silksong makes me want to download and get the 112% hollow knight again should i do it chat?

[zenith lagoon]

500 buckets filled with maggots

[mighty path]

what are rhe chances he hangs me

[zenith lagoon]

yeah i was thinking of zat, i can just edit my save

[silver nacelle]

Don't. The controls are never the same after playing Silksong.

[orchid locust]

shi i might have to move there i ain't paying 8000 rosaries a month for an underworks studio js to live in the citadel 💔

[heavy grail]

what else am i missing chat?

[silver nacelle]

Fair.

[silver nacelle]

Curve claw, volt vessels, the bomb and more.

[zenith lagoon]

i think you need to get thief's mark?

[orchid locust]

why doesn't grandmother silk just raze several neighborhoods and build an urban freeway through pharloom?????

[royal furnace]

Playing Hollow Knight after playing Silksong for so long feels so weird. Like the silksong fighting style cooked my ability to fight in Hollow Knight

[heavy grail]

i think imbroke

[silver nacelle]

You're also missing the thief's badge from Grindle.

[silver nacelle]

And possibly snitch pick.

[zenith lagoon]

btw where is that crystallized looking tool at

[heavy grail]

how the hell do i grind money in act 3 bruh

[silver nacelle]

Mount fay.

[royal furnace]

Mount fay

[silver nacelle]

Edit your save file :3.

[royal furnace]

By bench

[zenith lagoon]

do i have to find it or is it a quest reward

[orchid locust]

what do you even spend money on in act 3 ngl, i bought all the tools and bellhome and whatever in act 2

[silver nacelle]

It's just hidden somewhere.

[true sky]

why the hell is the easiest boss fight in the fucking game locked behind fucking sands of karak bro
Out of all the places they could have put khann they put him in SANDS OF KARAK then had the audacity to make you fight 4 gauntlets in a row for 10 hours

[royal furnace]

Not much honestly

[zenith lagoon]

thans

[royal furnace]

Once you get to act 3 your money just sits there.

[light swan]

this is the best thing ive ever made

[silver nacelle]

Because if he was difficult after fighting a gauntlet, everyone would've hated him.

[zenith lagoon]

Kands of Sarak aint that tough

[royal furnace]

Besides last needle upgrade

[zenith lagoon]

i did it on mobile lol

Yeah

[silver nacelle]

False. Shaman is more circular. The perfect shape.

[austere lotus]

Can you get more health before splinter sister ?

Also not sure if I can get any other silk skills yet

[true sky]

Karmelita didn’t even have me crashing out this hard dude what the hell

[zenith lagoon]

i think no?

[austere lotus]

I've collected 3 mask pieces so far

[zenith lagoon]

if shes too hard you can skip her

[royal furnace]

You can

[light swan]

but this resembles arrows towards a center, shaman doesnt do that

[broken stratus]

should i get the last needle upgrade before lost lace?

[austere lotus]

She's mandatory for wall jump no?

[royal furnace]

You can get 1 mask before sister splinter

[zenith lagoon]

someone told me no last time i asked

[zenith lagoon]

yes (unless you do a skip)

[supple bay]

you should have everything maxed before her anyways so yes

[broken stratus]

this is still a firly new game, some infos are still uncertain

[true sky]

Or just make it easier to get to him and have him be difficult like all the other heart bosses

[austere lotus]

Not skipping her tbh, fun boss fight so far I just hate that you only get 3 hits

[broken stratus]

damn i dont, i have the last mask left and the nedle upgrade left

[royal furnace]

One by wormways, one you can buy at bone bottom, one in between the marrow and deep docks, one in Fair fields, one in shellwood you can get without wall grip

[silver nacelle]

Shaman is a cyclone which is better than an arrow.

[austere lotus]

My biggest issue with silksong so far is that every boss deals double damage on contact

[silver nacelle]

Eh. Nyleth being difficult is debatable.

[light swan]

but im trying to make a bunch of red arrowsp oint to a red circle

[austere lotus]

I'm fine with it coming from telegraphed attacks

[zenith lagoon]

wait till bro gets to the final boss of act 3

[austere lotus]

She's also half god

[silver nacelle]

I can do the same with one big arrow pointing towards the middle spell circle.

[royal furnace]

It almost like the bosses would be too easy if they did 1 damage

[light swan]

im gonna start putting witch crest on my thumbnails if i wnat to point to something

[supple bay]

get ready to watch a youtube guide on the masks for 30 minutes trying to figure out which one youre missing

[true sky]

Not even difficult just mildly annoying

[light swan]

but the tentacles in witch make for the arrows, shaman does that badly

[broken stratus]

real

[zenith lagoon]

i almost crashed out while fighting her

[austere lotus]

I disagree based on hollow knight tbh, but you also start that one off with significantly less health

[light swan]

tbh even reaper does it better than shaman

[royal furnace]

Hollow KNIGHT only allows one mask heal per a focus

[austere lotus]

Which crest would you recommend for splinter sister? I've been using reaper

[zenith lagoon]

reaper

[true sky]

Deadass have to be pogoing her half the damn time or you just won’t have silk period

[royal furnace]

Whereas silksong allows three in one

[silver nacelle]

Badly? It's a cyclone! A goddamn cyclone!

[austere lotus]

I'd much prefer being able to heal like HK tbh, the greater flexibility was something I took for granted

[zenith lagoon]

i tried to play it safe but always died to the stupid focus circle attack thing

[light swan]

im not trying to make a cyclone

[silver nacelle]

Lol.

[silver nacelle]

Yes, but cyclones > arrows.

[royal furnace]

For nyleth you just spam harpoon

[light swan]

im trying to make arrows not cyclones i dont give negative shits about cyclones rn 😭

[zenith lagoon]

i went in blind so i didnt have that idea...

[austere lotus]

Rn unless I happen to be sitting on a full silk gauge there's no point in trying to heal when she's stunned

[silver nacelle]

Wait- are you being serious? I thought we were shitposting rn.

[zenith lagoon]

Srest Clop 🤮

[light swan]

im saying because i saw this and legit thought the red stuff was a witch crest

[silver nacelle]

Lmao.

[true sky]

Nyleth made me upset but i wasn’t mad
Karmelita was actually fun
The journey to Khann itself already has me crashing out, what the actual fuck are the gauntlets gonna be like??

[royal furnace]

Hunter crest is best, most acrobatic

[light swan]

what makes a crest acrobatic

[silver nacelle]

I legit thought we were just shitposting.

[zenith lagoon]

wo i nont

[light swan]

i was half shitposting half being serious abotu how witch made arrows 😭

[zenith lagoon]

there is a shortcut after the third gauntlet btw

[royal furnace]

Just watch the high halls gauntlet tas

[zenith lagoon]

1 is fine, 2&3 are ass

[light swan]

i already did, every crest can do that

[silver nacelle]

Lmao.

[royal furnace]

Reaper can totally do that

[light swan]

answer my question

[ocean bridge]

beast crest if this happens often

[true sky]

Bro if khann was LITERALLY anywhere else I would be fine but it’s fuckin SANDS OF KARAK like dude that’s the one area I don’t wanna go to, I would deadass rather go to Bilewater

[silver nacelle]

Except Shaman because it isn't available at that point ;-;.

[royal furnace]

It is a shame but it does make your silk skills do insane damage.

I blitzed through karmelita using shaman

[silver nacelle]

I know. I'm a shaman main.

[tulip spire]

Checking in what are we taking about toda—

[royal furnace]

Sarcasm

[zenith lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/reaper-crest-silkpost-silksong-average-average-reaper-crest-user-gif-11428658938507077422

[heavy grail]

wth she died

[light swan]

i forgot how cool sister splinter was, does she have contact damage 🙁

[silver nacelle]

(Alpharad's voice) Crest discourse baby!

[light swan]

yea reaper can

[zenith lagoon]

yeah

[silver nacelle]

Yes. She fell on me once.

[royal furnace]

Dis is just ragebait, it's SLOW

[junior citrus]

He's ween

[zenith lagoon]

she falls on you and covers like half the fucking room

[tulip spire]

She jackin’ o’ my lantern till I holler ween

[light swan]

youre animation cancelling with clawline and dash, you dont give any shits about it being slow or not (sinceyoure obviously referring to the hhg tas) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iaPFLgTQQw&feature=youtu.be

[raven tinsel]

I just beat Moorwing today in my Steel Soul run. Ngl, I ran off screen to heal when he broke my Fractured Mask. Idk if that’s cheating in Steel Soul runs, but the game lets you lol

[ocean bridge]

yea she does, since this was the winning attempt i’m pretty sure i wouldn’t have been making short-ish jumps to hit her if she didn’t have contact damage

[royal furnace]

Hunter crest is still best

Smh

[silver nacelle]

She father on my flame till I wisp?

[light swan]

what makes a crest acrobatic

[silver nacelle]

The pogo.

[ocean bridge]

clawline

[zenith lagoon]

imagine using crests

[tulip spire]

Call me the great pumpkin the way I holler on her ween

[errant lynx]

I've arrived at bilehaven

[royal furnace]

Oml it's not that deep, the pogo like

[ocean bridge]

[zenith lagoon]

cloakless>>>>>>>

[errant lynx]

It's time

[light swan]

but wanderer and other pogos are also smooth and responsive are they acrobatic too

[steel veldt]

Reaper my beloved

[royal furnace]

Pure ragebait

[arctic epoch]

probably the suggest of movement over combat
i'd say witch is definitely more acrobatic than beast >-> well optimally speaking so

[steel veldt]

Theyre all acrobatic

[austere lotus]

How'd you get six masks and two item slots?

[light swan]

you arent saying why im wrong so its your fault

[foggy tapir]

THERE IS NO BEST CREST.

[ocean bridge]

exploring

and beast crest comes with two red slots by default

[silver nacelle]

Yeah, but reaper's pogo is just so good.

[light swan]

^^^^

[austere lotus]

I didn't realize other crests existed and used 3 of my memory lockets on hunter lol

[true sky]

in the marrow straight up silking it. and by "it", haha, well. lets justr say. My song

[zenith lagoon]

💔

[light swan]

people who act like theres a definitive best crest make me sad

[foggy tapir]

THERE CAN BE THE BEST CREST USER BUT NOT THE BEST CREST

[zenith lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/wing-gaster-chara-gif-460255226754081608

[light swan]

the perfect middleground is when you love and appreciate all crests and youre willing to admit your favorite crest is not the best

[royal furnace]

With wanderers crest you have to be above the enemy to pogo, it effectively makes you unable to hit a harpoon immediately after. Or hit a silk spear. It makes it not acrobatic. When I say acrobatic I mean the ability to hit up a secondary hit right after the pogo with efficient speeds.

[errant lynx]

It's over for groal

[light swan]

what abotu witch

[errant lynx]

Architect tool spam time

[light swan]

or beast or shaman where you dont need to be above the enemy

[royal furnace]

You always end up above because of the weird idk you absorb into the enemy thing

[silver nacelle]

I love Shaman, but I can admit it's flawed. I haven't healed in a boss fight in forever.

[raw hearth]

…. For witch you basically have to be above lol

[polar stag]

https://youtu.be/Hzau2Bs9Oro?si=h33tmY-FzdV_y9ui Does Beast Crest have more pogo range than Hunter? From this video it looks like it does but I'm not sure.

[raw hearth]

It’s a very shallow cone to trigger the automatic followup

[light swan]

my ass is NOT above the enemy

[silver nacelle]

Shaman you definitely need to be above the enemy. The angle is very steep.

[ocean bridge]

the imperfect middleground when you respect all crests but have only played your favorite so all you can say is “it’s pretty cool”

[light swan]

nvm then, i dont use shaman much lol

[royal furnace]

That would make witches creat on the acrobatic side I concede

[zenith lagoon]

me

[silver nacelle]

Fair.

[raw hearth]

Yeah this requires you to be extremely close to the enemy. At longer ranges it often fails if you aren’t in like a 20 degree cone

You’re right you don’t have to be “above” the enemy but to do it consistently at random distances it’s best to do it above

[true sky]

The shit you can do with barbed bracelet and sawtooth circlet is just astounding

[arctic epoch]

the middle-middleground when you can't stop saying "unarmed crest is the best"

[light swan]

another example of me phasing through enemies by hitting them from the front

[royal furnace]

I'd like the saw tooth blade if it wasn't for the sound it made 😭

[ocean bridge]

you can mod it to be different

[royal furnace]

🙏

[ocean bridge]

but tbh it’s grown on me

and plus it’s hard to make it clear youre using it in videos unless you hear the sound

[arctic epoch]

i'd say sawtooth's sound feel very satisfying lmao

[true sky]

Yk what fuck khann I’ll go fight trobbio he won’t pmo

[royal furnace]

To me it feels like a fork grinding on a plate

[polar stag]

I need to learn to do stuff like this. Is this just Clawline+pogo, or Clawline+hit+pogo?

[light swan]

theres no way this pogo is barely in front of the enemy

[royal furnace]

Pogo claw line pogo claw line. I'd recommend watching things like the high halls gauntlet tas because it gives you a good idea of the fighting style you can use

[arctic epoch]

clawline + sawtooth + pogo

[light swan]

i feel like it cant hit things right in front of hornet but enemies are usually tall and as long as theyre like half a centimeter under hornet itd be fine

[light swan]

which part? i do a lot of clawlines and pogos so idk which part youre taling about

[ocean bridge]

alternatively, learn the simpler version of alternating attack and jump

[arctic epoch]

the visual is pulling abysmal level ragebait 'cause that ain't hitting Second Sentinel 😭

[maiden stratus]

I'm doing gms with infected any tips?

[light swan]

also, beast is also very acrobatic as well

[royal furnace]

Just fight it

Go slow

[maiden stratus]

Really hard without the heal

[polar stag]

Just the whole thing basically. Like just getting off so many hits that quickly. I tend to play more cautiously so I'm not familiar with all the technical movement and combat stuff you can do.

[royal furnace]

Go slow, be careful, act like it's your first playthrough type stuff

[maiden stratus]

I have been using nail art is it good or should I stick with normal attack

[supple bay]

dont be scared of dying you can take 4 hits just play it like you used to without damage tanking and it should be pretty easy from there

[tulip spire]

Try not to jump until you have to and use clawline liberally

[royal furnace]

I don't use nail art so I can't say

[polar stag]

the greatest extent to which I use clawline in combat is against flying enemies and I barely use dash slash

[silver nacelle]

Beast's pogo is really special because it attacks horizontally, an attack vector most flying enemies can't counter because they expect you to either be below them or above them.

[royal furnace]

They nerfed muh architect nail art 💔

That was so peak

[maiden stratus]

Okk tyy

[arctic epoch]

it's a combination of clawline and sawtooth, and hell lots of animation cancel

[tulip spire]

Clawline is really good against GMS because she staggers like twice as often

[royal furnace]

Yeah I kinda fw it but I like the hunter more

[supple bay]

np

[light swan]

dash attack (2) > clawline cancel (1) > sawtooth pogo (2) > clawline cancel (1) > sawtooth pogo (2) >sawtooth pogo (2)
the numbers in parenthesis are the number of needle hits each one does
sawtooth pogo is when you double jump 2 frames before pogoing, you activate your sawtooth circlet but cancel the double jump with a pogo so it looks seamless

[tulip spire]

If you use it regularly

[maiden stratus]

Yea I keep dying from that side nail attack because of that will keep in mind

[silver nacelle]

Fair. I'm just saying, beast's pogo is better as anti air.

[polar stag]

the audio fucking jumpscared me lmao

[royal furnace]

Yeah the staggers are definitely noticeable

[light swan]

this isnt even the best i can do because i couldve clawlined canceled out of the second sawtooth pogo for faster damage

[ocean bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pparu-pp4ru-hamburger-potato-i-am-eating-hamburger-and-potato-everyday-gif-6680261125069936233

[tulip spire]

You can reach her from the ground with your upslash so you generally don’t need to jump except to evade

Oh one other thing. You can make her spikes go away by hitting them twice

[wet bone]

I have a question, for whoever did the emojis

Why is ||Karmelita|| spelled wrong?

[soft geode]

anyone knows this one in particular?

[tulip spire]

Her name used to be spelled different

[silver nacelle]

Fun fact: did y'all know that, unlike most other spells, Rune Rage can't break your cocoon?

[ocean bridge]

common rune rage L or W

[glacial kelp]

[silver nacelle]

It's so bad.

[royal furnace]

Only a w for gauntlets sorta, silk spear is better

[terse stone]

rune rage try not to be the shittiest skill in every way challenge (impossible)

[low pond]

[silver nacelle]

[royal furnace]

On my life silk spear is the goat

[maiden stratus]

I keep going in air because of muscle memory

[ocean bridge]

no wonder first sinner got locked up

rune rage couldn’t save her ass from a conviction

[tulip spire]

In the earliest marketing content it used to be spelled with a c, so that’s why it’s spelled like that

[zenith lagoon]

R*ne Rage

[maiden stratus]

I did not know that ty

[wet bone]

I see

[low pond]

Shakra vs Karmelita

[silver nacelle]

Her sin was probably making Rune Rage.

[royal furnace]

Deserved

[tulip spire]

Generally just be in the air to avoid spikes or to clawline into her

[wet bone]

I had no idea rune rage was that bad. Either way, I asked a couple times about the ability not knowing its name, and people told me such an ability didn't exist

[timid plinth]

karmelita solos

[tulip spire]

Rune rage is so bad it makes me sad because it’s cool as fuck

[ocean bridge]

it indeed is cool as fuck

[wet bone]

I called it the ability that causes a bunch of explosions

[timid plinth]

rune rage doesn't exist, it is just your fragment of imagination

[royal furnace]

It kinda tracks the enemy but still sucks

[terse stone]

be patient and don't take any movements you aren't sure about, it's okay to just stop attacking and just dodge if you don't think you can do both for a certain attack

[low pond]

“Yo we finally get to be Pure Vessel”

“The fuck is this”

[silver nacelle]

Tracks is a generous word.

[ocean bridge]

wheres that rune rage vs LL completely whiffing clip

[wet bone]

At least Trobbio lets us live that fantasy

[polar stag]

I think the Rune Rage hate is the only slander I fully agree with in regards to this game lol. I barely used it and I could tell it wasn't worth it.

[wet bone]

Hell, combine witch crest bind and mirrors and you'll annihilate anything when you bind

[low pond]

Rune rage could honestly be so peak tho

[tulip spire]

I mean getting the hits is only half the reason it sucks lol. It also does shit damage, takes forever to cast, and you lose all your silk if you get hit while casting it

[royal furnace]

The thing is, is that things like the silk spear and cross stitch easily overshadow it

[silver nacelle]

I have tried to beat LL with rune rage only.

I almost beat her, but couldn't land the final few blows because it kept missing. :)

[true sky]

Nvm trobbio is very much pissing me off

[royal furnace]

Yeah

[orchid locust]

rune rage is like pure vessel's focus attack if it fucking sucked

[low pond]

sharpdart my beloved

[royal furnace]

TROBBIO IS THE GOAT 🤫

[nocturne gyro]

Thats wild

[timid plinth]

make the circles bigger trust

[royal furnace]

Cross stitch and silk spear if they had an inbred baby

[terse stone]

why do you lose your silk if you get hit with rune rage lmao, that's so stupid

[silver nacelle]

I quit the challenge right then and there.

[wet bone]

What helped me with Trobbio was assuming he's going to use his spin every time. That way I don't get caught off guard by it

[low pond]

And Sharp Shadow comes in from out of town and joins the fray

[true sky]

He’s the goat but he’s pissing me the fuck off everything this mf does is double damage

[tulip spire]

Because it’s a shit skill!!! If it’s going to do that, at least make injector band have an effect on the cast time lol

[nocturne gyro]

Fair enough lol

[orchid locust]

if you cast rune rage it should open a graphing calculator allowing you to position the circles exactly how you want

[true sky]

And there’s always twice as much shit on screen as there was in act 2

[silver nacelle]

[polar stag]

literally every other skill overshadows it. everything else is reliable at the very least. Rune Rage takes too long to charge up and is completely unreliable with middling damage at best.

[low pond]

2 sq ft circle go!!!

[terse stone]

or, y'know, just make the casting time be more in line with the other spells

[royal furnace]

There's this glitch where if you hit him with diggers drill attack while he does his tornado spin thing he gets stuck allowing you to do full damage.

[sterile iron]

So sad grimm wasnt in sillsong :(

[light swan]

turn rune rage into pure vessel soul attack

[silver nacelle]

It doesn't even have utility like the other spells.

[timid plinth]

i can only see rune rage being useful in gauntlets but thats about it

[maiden stratus]

Omg I was just on the last nockout and got in those 3 hearts silk attack 😭😭

[true sky]

Cross stitch my beloved, I fucking love ignoring damage

[royal furnace]

Nah thank goodness

[light swan]

im using it so much its so awesome

[true sky]

Reaper Crest: “allow me to introduce myself.”

[tulip spire]

Yeah it happened to me too lol

[royal furnace]

Cross stitch is so fun lol, silk spear in my eyes is best but I love cross stitch

[terse stone]

even then there are way better options

[silver nacelle]

It never leaves my down spell slot.

[timid plinth]

ew

[nocturne gyro]

But can we agree that pale nails are underrated

[low pond]

and even then cross stitch, silk spear, sharp dart, and thread storm do a much better job

[royal furnace]

It sucks

[light swan]

i just wish it could parry everything, like falling lava or even the gms screenwide web attack

[maiden stratus]

I'm using claw line it feels like it's doing more damage than my nail tbh

[timid plinth]

that shit is not underrated

[polar stag]

isn't that basically what PV already does or does PV have a different soul attack I'm forgetting?

[true sky]

It deadass is just grimm lowk

[silver nacelle]

Pale nails is cheese. I don't like it.

[ocean bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[tulip spire]

They’re only good if you can maintain uptime so like. If you’re running wanderer or hunter they’re alright but otherwise kinda eh

[timid plinth]

never compare grimm to the worst crest known to man cuh

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-vessel-hollow-knight-gif-24293038

[royal furnace]

Pale nails sucks, you have to be right in the bosses face for them to even track

[silver nacelle]

No. He has a massive circle around him. So it's more guaranteed.

[nocturne gyro]

I see nobody using it and it does good damage

[light swan]

it needs the big circle at the start

[silver nacelle]

This is what rune rage should be.

[sterile iron]

It really lifts my soul to see all the grubs free in hollow knight

[wet bone]

I LOVE the reaper crest. The range, the power of the pogo, it just feels right

[nocturne gyro]

Fairs

[polar stag]

Oh so basically the same but with 1 guaranteed hit.

[light swan]

?? 💀 idk what game youre playing

[tulip spire]

The humble wanderer crest:

[true sky]

It literally copies his whole moveset it literally deadass copies his ENTIRE FLOW what else am I gonna do

[glacial kelp]

make circles bigger too so its harder to miss

[silver nacelle]

[ocean bridge]

volt pale nails murderizes LL

[low pond]

I mean it’s probably the last skill most people get so there’s just more buzz with the others

[silver nacelle]

Yes. It would make it so much better.

[timid plinth]

pale nails is really good with shaman crest + volt filament + weavelight, you can just stall and spam nails endlessly

[wet bone]

Its dps might be low, but its ability to keep you safe is unmatched

[nocturne gyro]

Yea that’s true

[light swan]

im doing homework rn i just have discord on a side, although to answer your question, yes

[timid plinth]

i just call that cowardice /j

[royal furnace]

Idk to me pail nails are so boring because it does the tracking for you

[polar stag]

Rune Rage is probably visually the best looking skill but at the moment that's literally all it has. It looks cool.

[royal furnace]

Like it's not satisfying

[low pond]

Who ready for Last Great Lost Savage Beastfly

[wet bone]

Wait, don't silk skills take four silk to use? Does weavelight ALWAYS give you a bonus silk point?

[nocturne gyro]

Yes exactly tho I still don’t use it much, I just think it’s cool

[silver nacelle]

Yeah, but pale nails breeds bad habits. It's easy to click and wastes silk that could've been used to protect you using cross stitch.

[sterile iron]

These elders are buggin’ bro😭

[timid plinth]

yep

[silver nacelle]

Ah yes, the aura farming spell.

[low pond]

it’s in the groal arena and the edge platforms are gone

He spawns nothing but the outrigger ducts mosquitos

[silver nacelle]

Shaman users like me never take the weavelight off.

[tulip spire]

The main thing is that it’s very passive dps so you need to really cast pale nails frequently to get the most bang for your buck. Stuff like reaper and hunter are good at that since they’re fast and have good silk gain and excess silk to spare.

It’s less good on other crests because they’re either slow (shaman, reaper) or want to use silk to bind (witch, beast, architect)

[ocean bridge]

ngl i wanna see if volt pale nails makes my LL beast crest kills any faster

[timid plinth]

shaman doesn't really need weavelight but it is a good utility regardless

[wet bone]

Or you could be me, and almost mever use silk skills in combat. I used to use thread storm occasionally, but now I just whack thing until it die

[low pond]

buff cogfly

[wispy girder]

deep docks bell bomb guy gauntlet or putrified ducts green fly gauntlet

[royal furnace]

It takes a long time to generate 4 silk bars anyways so you're better off just hitting

[true sky]

I always prioritize silk for healing and not spells

[wispy girder]

ten rounds

[light swan]

nah youre dropping sawtooth circlet which like, doubles your damage output

[ocean bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ong-lizard-gc-ong-lizard-ong-gc-lizard-dance-gif-27093082

[wet bone]

I think I underestimate the damage of the shaman crest because I'm used to the HK equivalent being weaker

[low pond]

double it and give it to the next person

[true sky]

Every npc in the game will be cooked

[nocturne gyro]

It’s already really good

[royal furnace]

Silk skills make an insane difference

[silver nacelle]

It probably wouldn't because you rely on your bind for damage and you'd be wasting your one blue on volt filament.

[ocean bridge]

nah i already dont use sawtooth for LL

shes too short

[silver nacelle]

...check my nickname. I main shaman. Not using spells is...utter madness.

[polar stag]

If they made Rune Rage like PV's and gave that 1-hit/AOE actually good damage it would be good. At the moment, even the damage is bad so 1 guaranteed hit wouldn't save it. It would be a very negligible improvement. It needs to be more reliable+have actually good damage.

[royal furnace]

Ong

[light swan]

oh yea, spell spam would work then

[low pond]

how beat her

[tulip spire]

Idk nobody has ever managed it

[silver nacelle]

The best thing about silksong spell builds is that you get silk for free.

[wet bone]

I don't remember a gauntlet in the ducts, when does that happen? They're called spit squits btw

[true sky]

Yeah but I only have 6 masks which in act 3 is more like 3 masks
Prioritizing heals is in my best interest at all times since if I get hit more than 3 times I am going to die

[light swan]

i loveh ow youre encouraged to not use spells on witch crest but i still spam spells so much and im never regretting it tbh

[light swan]

abyss shreak deals 184 damage iwth shaman stone, super strong

[timid plinth]

the bomb guys are pretty easy icl

[silver nacelle]

Shaman has the lowest needle DPS ever and only two blue slots. Not using spells would literally make it the actual worst crest.

[wet bone]

Don't look into what happens to shamans in elden ring

[low pond]

she wombo comboed me

[tulip spire]

Did you try using flukenest

[low pond]

oh yeah I love that thing

[silver nacelle]

I won't. I won't.

[heavy grail]

LETS GO!!!!

[low pond]

I found the Hallownest secret area and now I have the Shade Lord helping me with Moss Mother

[light swan]

its faster than reaper because you can cancel the attack cooldown with dash unlike reaper

[polar stag]

Start-up+somewhat consistent hits+damage. I think maybe spawn the Runes in a specific and consistent pattern? Like maybe in a horizontal arrangement on either side of the player and set them to go off in a timed sequence, like closest-to-furthest from the player or vice versa.

[wet bone]

[Elden ring DLC spoiler warning] ||I found that revelation rather... jarring||

[light swan]

it also has more range than reaper in addition to the needle cancels

reaper also only has 2 blue slots, altnough it has 2 red slots which is more damage ig

[tulip spire]

It also has a better pogo, upslash and strike attack lol

[wet bone]

If only I was on pc to favourite this

[light swan]

but needlewise shaman would still be better than reaper

[wet bone]

Say it with me, folks!

[timid plinth]

you can favorite gifs in mobile tho

[heavy grail]

gg!

[light swan]

are there any skips involving reverse shaman pogo yet

[low pond]

Trobbio is actually an anagram for Nightmare King Grimm

[wet bone]

Mr (Ant) Tenna's T.V. TIIIIIIIIME!

[dire trout]

I am actually going to lose my mind fighting tormentend trobio

[silver nacelle]

Yes, but my controller would probably break if I spam the attack button like that. I prefer spamming the spell button.

[tulip spire]

Damn

[wet bone]

Thank you

[timid plinth]

u got it fam

[light swan]

but we're talking in general not just your controller

[polar stag]

TLDR: Spawn them in horizontally outwards from Hornet, and time them to go off based on proximity. Like closest go off first or furthest.

[wet bone]

Grimm is the nightmare king, Trobbio is the drama queen

[tulip spire]

Is there a reliable way to hit ttrobbio or is it just luck

[heavy grail]

im gonna go download hollow knight again

[low pond]

I almost destroyed my controller while fighting Savage Beastfly rematch

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN SPAWN UP TO TWO ENEMIES THAT SHOOT DOUBLE DAMAGE FIREBALLS THAT STICK TO
THE GROUND WHEN THEY LAND

[wet bone]

Pogo on him during his tornado

[silver nacelle]

Yeah, I know. Though, it probably would take a lot of practicing the fight to not get hit because getting hit is more punishing on shaman.

[polar stag]

yeah I think so.

[light swan]

but it still in the end has higher dps yea, even though its more difficult

[wet bone]

Honestly, I found the savage beastfly rematch easier than the first

[tulip spire]

Yeah I figured. I’ve beaten him twice now in two playthrough and some attempts the fucker just stayed under the floor for like seven attacks in a row

[low pond]

I don’t want my enemies voided

[timid plinth]

i like savage beastfly

[silver nacelle]

Kinda like Hunter's, huh. Shaman has hunter lite.

[silver nacelle]

Stockholm syndrome.

[wet bone]

Reminds me of the time Karmelita spent like half the fight in the air for me

[timid plinth]

[low pond]

I hope Savage Beastfly gets crushed by a new boss that’s like Skull Conquerer or smth and it’s just an even bigger Skull Tyrant

[tulip spire]

First beastfly is fine

Second one is fucking garbage

[low pond]

I fought first beastly very late in act 2 so it was pretty light

[wet bone]

They'd better add the ability to pet the beast and her lings

[low pond]

widow vs first sinner

[timid plinth]

i fought the far fields beastfly first which was awesome

[silver nacelle]

TC has stated that their armour is so thick that you hitting them with the needle is the equivalent to petting.

[wet bone]

Second one doesn't have any walls to bonk off of, so the fight is more predictable

[wet bone]

Can you hit the beastlings?

[tulip spire]

I hate how you can get boxed in super easily

[low pond]

mosh

[silver nacelle]

Yeah, it flings them around.

[wet bone]

God, the big shredding guys come to mind

[timid plinth]

you can make them drown

[tulip spire]

So like what happened to the fourth beastling

[silver nacelle]

Why do you think that one boss was called "Fourth Chorus"?

[true sky]

Anyway

[silver nacelle]

Herra.

[true sky]

The knight

Wait…

[wet bone]

There are HUNDREDS of bugs in that thing

Mooshka

[silver nacelle]

I was making a joke.

[timid plinth]

horne

[tulip spire]

So I got a question why do people constantly get stuck on Broodmother

[still stratus]

just on her

[timid plinth]

worst boss oat

[still stratus]

i get stuck on every boss, i took 47 tries to beat last judge

[wet bone]

She's a pain in every orifice

[still stratus]

i NO HIT her though when i did win just for the record

[true sky]

Because of the ads and the sticky shit which makes dodging shit a pain

[tulip spire]

I swear every tier list has her in F and I just don’t fucking get it I beat her in like two tries and I thought she was basically Gruz mother with funny animations and voice clips

[wet bone]

I beat First Sinner on my second real attempt

[timid plinth]

she's ugly and disgusting

[tulip spire]

First Sinner needs a buff she’s never really come close to killing me even with a handicap

[wet bone]

Reaper crest's dash attack is a counter to two of her attacks

[true sky]

I deadass didn’t have cogflies before fighting her, I got them JUST to beat her ass, she was actually pmtfo

[wet bone]

If she charges at you, the uppercut will take you out of the way

[timid plinth]

or just jump

[wet bone]

Uppercut hits AND jumps

[polar stag]

I wasted 5 minutes putting together this beautiful image in Paint for some reason. My ideal Rune Rage arrangement. Runes go off in order of priority/proximity. 1 goes off first. 2 goes off last. Always in this horizontal arrangement.

[tulip spire]

Last time I fought her I let her bind on purpose and only used bind when she did and I still beat her in one try and didn’t really get close to dying. I really enjoy her fight but I think she might be kinda easy

[true sky]

I could probably go back to her and beat her ass now but when I fought her HOLY SHIT

[wet bone]

Why is Sherma's cymbal white?

[wet bone]

How did this take five minutes?

[polar stag]

I've never used Paint lol

[wispy girder]

no im just asking which gauntlet would you rather

[light swan]

first sinner is so fun but so inconsistent for me

[wet bone]

I only let her bind once myself, just to see what would happen

[still stratus]

which one was first sinner

[tulip spire]

She gets 10% of her hp back

[tulip spire]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-knight-silksong-silksong-first-sinner-my-beloved-gif-7495746181733115941

[wet bone]

Well, spit squits are annoying, but they're easier to dodge

[polar stag]

that would be really cool but still noone would want to use it

[wet bone]

Oh no, that's like four hits!

[true sky]

Whichever is not ducts

Spit squits are deadass the game’s equivalent to primal aspids

[timid plinth]

she sucks at healing windows smh

[wet bone]

The bomb guys can't be damaged from above, and have bombs that take up half the screen

[supple bay]

every enemy in silksong is equivalent to a primal aspid

[tulip spire]

Closer to 7-10 but yeah

[light swan]

i hate bomb guys yall shouldve seen me get bodied by them earlier

[true sky]

Spit squits are worse

[wet bone]

They don't even take damage

[glacial kelp]

5 minutes for some runes just like the name what am i looking at bro why

[wet bone]

According to the wiki, she has 900 hp

[tulip spire]

She has 1300 unless she’s been nerfed

[wet bone]

Hmm

[polar stag]

Horizontal arrangement, runes go off in order of the numbers. So closest to Hornet go off first, furthest go off last.

and I've never used Paint so it took embarassingly long

[wet bone]

I was wrong, who was I thinking of?

[true sky]

Silksong’s “balancing” making you do less damage to bosses every nail upgrade WHAT’S THE POINT THEN

[glacial kelp]

so like… a ddive hitbox but you can use it in the air

[arctic epoch]

that's not exactly true?

[polar stag]

i hadn't considered aerial potential but ig it would be possible

[glacial kelp]

if youre a tool user ig?

[silent pebble]

What do you mean

[tulip spire]

You don’t do less damage to bosses with upgrades though. The upgrades themselves can be less powerful depending on the enemy but there’s not a point where the modifier straight up makes it so you do less than on a lower upgrade

[timid plinth]

i think you still need less hits, im not sure

[arctic epoch]

i don't remember there being an instance when you upgrade your stuff and you have to deal more damage to kill something

[devout wren]

I just got the reapers crest and it Carrie’s on those bitchmaid birds❤️‍🩹

[silent pebble]

Is it just me, or is hk better aesthetically

[wet bone]

You still do more, they just want to make sure your kill time isn't TOO fast

[glacial kelp]

yes but on net you still deal more damage
its only pronounced with tools

[true sky]

Karmelita for instance

[wet bone]

Fiilesg

[fathom echo]

Definitely, I feel like there are a lot more memorable areas in hk

[tulip spire]

1 * 17 < 0.95 * 21

[timid plinth]

half of the areas in hk is just gray

[light swan]

im ngl they shouldve restricted the bottom of deep docks till act 3 rather than letting you fight signis and gron in act 2

[true sky]

Fuck that I wanna make sure the mfs know they don’t have much time to live

[arctic epoch]

i'm talking about silksong tho?

[glacial kelp]

yeah it also rounds so its not that bad

[fathom echo]

Green path crystal peak

[tulip spire]

Yeah like on needle3 you do 17 damage and on needle4 you do 20.

[silent pebble]

But there are places that'd make you cry too

[wet bone]

Then use the ||curveclaw's upgraded form||

[glacial kelp]

youre not supposed to know the damage values anyways as a casual player
itll still feel faster in game

[silent pebble]

Also, hk endings and lore were more in depth and hit harder

[tulip spire]

It literally is faster you do 3 more damage per hit

[true sky]

I mean not literally doing less damage I mean doing less than what the dmg actually should be

[soft geode]

i have done it

[wet bone]

Hk had three expansions, give them time

[glacial kelp]

well no shit if it feels faster it probably is

[fathom echo]

Ironically despite having a much longer development time silksong doesn’t feel as alive as hk if that makes sense

[glacial kelp]

“should be” what it should be is what the devs decide lmao

[true sky]

you know what i meant lmao

[arctic epoch]

modifier: 1.5 -> 1.25 -> 1.1 -> 1 -> 0.95
damage level: 5 -> 9 -> 13 -> 17 -> 21
tru damage: 7.5 -> 11.25 -> 14.3 -> 17 -> 19.5

so the issue is?

[fathom echo]

It feels like they put more effort into the gameplay rather than the game itself

[tulip spire]

This is actually a better way of balancing bosses than giving them variable hp as it a) is more granular and easier to adjust and b) makes it so going underleveled/with a needle binding (assuming as in hollow knight) doesn’t mean it takes 8 billion years to kill the inflated hp pool

[glacial kelp]

listen all im saying is its all a wash in the end

[light swan]

guys hows the speedkill

[glacial kelp]

itd be nice if they just increased the hp so the math is easier though

[true sky]

I like killing people and this is throwing off my kill times

[arctic epoch]

what about the other grand reed one? I can't tell if there's a difference

[tulip spire]

It’s literally still faster lol

[true sky]

It could be faster

much faster

[light swan]

another faster one

[light swan]

i clawline then kill them midair

[glacial kelp]

its honestly harder

[wispy girder]

honestly my problem with spit squits is how annoyingly they reposition

[fathom echo]

I’ve never understood why getting an upgrade you’re expected to get just nullifies it by making the game harder

[light swan]

im so confused whyd i kill them so fast in this one ???? i dont have any new upgrades

[timid plinth]

not really, most of the areas remind you that hallownest has fallen gravely, in contrast to silksong so it is not really fair to compare them

[arctic epoch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SXBXQYRBp8&t=1324s
Watch this

[true sky]

Already did

[arctic epoch]

yeah this one is faster by a bunch

[light swan]

wait im so confused rn lol

[glacial kelp]

well idk if this helps you it just explains what it is lmao

[soft geode]

me done with 52 achievements, now to go back to hollow knight and 100% the achievements, but first... sleep

[arctic epoch]

then the issues are >->

[wet bone]

Throw a single hypermaxed curveclaw at it

[light swan]

whats the physical difference between these two speedkills

[wet bone]

Same with all ranged flying enemies

[errant tusk]

who wants to join me in hollow knight/silksong gartic phone as a person who has NEVER played silksong and still has yet to beat Mantis Lords (dm if you wanna join)

[arctic epoch]

it has some points in there, tying into progression and game stages

[wispy girder]

the primal aspid-like greymoor enemy isnt as bad cuz of his big ass hitbox imo

[tulip spire]

It doesn’t though? Usually it does decrease hits for bosses. The main reason enemies have it is to make it take longer to one shot stuff because it was a huge issue in hk where you could like one shot 95% of the enemies in the game with like 3 nail upgrades

[wet bone]

You took longer to run up to it in the second

[glacial kelp]

oh really i didnt watch the full

[supple bay]

this illusion guy is inspiring me to main witch crest dude

[glacial kelp]

do you know keryan by chance

[light swan]

nope

[wet bone]

Get out of this chat and play it before you learn the whole plot

[fathom echo]

I just feel the game should already account for that from the get go and not retroactively

[light swan]

ignoring the runup, just the spedkill itself

[errant tusk]

oh

[arctic epoch]

your execution speed went up a lot, you're inputting clawline, pogo and downslash way sooner than the second one

[glacial kelp]

they were the first one i saw to do the sawtooth tech stuff

[true sky]

It gets faster yeah… but not as fast as it could be… I wanna kill them asap I want blood

That 2.5 damage drop makes a difference in the end

(I’m mostly just joking at this point actually but I do really like damage)

[wispy girder]

i am ASS at witch crest bro i never know when to heal

[light swan]

OH I MISSED A SAWTOOTH CIRCLET IN THE OLD ONE

[fathom echo]

Witch is situational at best

[light swan]

I NEVER KNEW THAT WTFFFF

[tulip spire]

It’s easier to adjust difficulty this way than having variable or inflated health pools

[timid plinth]

witch crest bind is pretty cool

[glacial kelp]

use bell and just do it whenever

[arctic epoch]

i mean you can still kill them as soon as possible, i haven't found a boss that can't be killed optimally in more than 2 minutes

[light swan]

i was still doing one less sawtooth pogo in the new one compared to the old one which was the difference

[wispy girder]

ehh the amount of blue slots r insane if you think abt it

[arctic epoch]

you did??? that extra damage really made a 1 second difference 😭

[wispy girder]

itd be so peak if its 4 blues 1 red imo

[light swan]

how so? you should be able to heal against every boss

[tulip spire]

Is it possible to kill pinstress sub two minutes without toolspam

[light swan]

it was just 1 sawtooth pogo longer

[arctic epoch]

Witch is the most skillful crest to stride this community

[glacial kelp]

its much harder against certain bosses tbf

[light swan]

but its still definitely useable

[arctic epoch]

i mean >-> idk, im not an architect main

[glacial kelp]

better than trying to max ev on beast bind

[wispy girder]

witchs issue is binding during exploration imo

[light swan]

witch is a difficult crest but i dont think that makes it bad at all, or situational or anything since it can still be used

[light swan]

its not intended to be used during exploration so dont use it during exploration 😔

[arctic epoch]

i'm out of ideas, what boss should i fight next after Second Sentinel

[tulip spire]

Honestly one of the reasons pinstress sucks is that you just can’t use any of the crests with bind perks against her lol

[fathom echo]

Honestly beast might be with the stuff I’ve seen people do with the pogo

[timid plinth]

imagine using witch in platforming

[light swan]

idk gms

[arctic epoch]

😭

[glacial kelp]

most that play this game are done with that anyways

[timid plinth]

it was already bad with beast

[arctic epoch]

i would say, like optimally speaking, Witch just out-skill other crests. Especially because of how input and timing heavy the crest is

[soft lake]

GUYS IF I GOT 55 ON THE FLEA JUGGLE WILL THAT COUNT AS PASSING SETH?

[wispy girder]

ughmm... dare i say groal runback

[tulip spire]

I mean you still have to overworld travel and it can be annoying to top up with witch

[true sky]

Honestly I’m too used to just doing exactly 21 any less feels slower, even if not by much i can FEEL the difference idk how idk why I just can

[timid plinth]

your score needs to be higher than seth

[fathom echo]

You need one point more

[glacial kelp]

top up as in tool usage

[tulip spire]

As in refilling hp

[light swan]

is yo ass really getting hit during a runback + bilewater is a lot easier to heal in compared to other areas

[soft lake]

I hate this game bro, I got a highscore of 53 then 54 and now 55

[true sky]

You guys struggled in the flea festival??

[fathom echo]

Trust me use shaman crest

[glacial kelp]

id just switch off at that point but ig its still a demerit

[tulip spire]

Seth’s high scores are fucked up

[soft lake]

I am

[timid plinth]

i struggled a bit on dodge

[supple bay]

flea dodge was the only one that took me a while

[glacial kelp]

dodge is rng icl

[soft lake]

The normal score is easy but why 55 🙏

[fathom echo]

I literally fell off as I beat Seth’s score

[true sky]

nah jus git gud /j

[timid plinth]

flea bounce is like the easiest i think at least

[tulip spire]

My dodge high score is 85 💔

[soft lake]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-gitgud-silksong-hollowknight-gif-11555526335271834339

[true sky]

I think I’m the only one who found the entire thing easy and had no struggle at all

[glacial kelp]

not that its like luck based its just sometimes way easier

[soft lake]

Whats seths then

[glacial kelp]

yeah go play with seth

[tulip spire]

90

[soft lake]

Yeqh I ain't getting that memento

[wispy girder]

chill i just got twisted child yesterday i havent even moved flea caravan yet 💔

[fathom echo]

I don’t know why but I thought I had to avoid the spa flea in bounce

[tulip spire]

No kill him dead

The bilewater runback doing damage is moot anyway since there’s a fuckload of silk right before the boss chamber anyway

[wispy girder]

how do you start flea fest again

[true sky]

Kill kratt

[tulip spire]

Act 3, get all fleas, get silk soar

[supple bay]

it doesnt take as nearly as long as it does to get hunters memento so

[tulip spire]

It’s the only memento I’m missing but I genuinely just do not enjoy the flea mini games

[soft lake]

Hunters memento is kinda easy tho, go to the enemy's spawn kill it until you get its journal then go to next one

[supple bay]

i liked the minigames its just seth is way better then everyone

[maiden stratus]

I did itt

[soft lake]

Yeah

[timid plinth]

flea juggle is so fun

[true sky]

I kille Seth

[tulip spire]

Okay this is the fourth day in a row you’ve come in here begging for a copy of Silksong get lost

[soft lake]

Nice job

[supple bay]

its not hard it just takes hours if you have like 50 you need left

[soft lake]

If you quick it's not that hard,

[light swan]

why is it so hard to get enemies to void up

[supple bay]

theyve been in here for 4 days

[maiden stratus]

I can finally start act 3 noww 🥳

[soft lake]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-silk-song-flea-gif-3676518571732474005

[tulip spire]

It’s a 50% chance

[light swan]

damn thats... low

[tulip spire]

Really I think it’s very high lol

[true sky]

Low???
LOW????

[soft lake]

I thought it was lower

[maiden stratus]

Oof imagine how many more hours it would take me to do act 3

[light swan]

yea i thought it was like 80% based on my past experiences

[supple bay]

i hate when im hitting an enemy and it turns void on the last hit and i like to be fancy on last hits of enemies health and then the same frame it turns void it hits me for 2 masks
it makes me want to quit the game out

[soft lake]

I'm at 151

[true sky]

I thought it was 90% lmao

[tawdry sierra]

why is the new hive knight boss so hard?

[tulip spire]

Whether an enemy is gonna void is determined upon entering the room

[paper wing]

Oh uhh, the enemy is actually already “void” before you see it turn void. The health it has is the same before and after.

[maiden stratus]

Woooow it will also take me same amount of time

[viral geyser]

Guys i am wondering if im prepared for the abyss in act 3?

[supple bay]

ah well i like to think not atleast

[light swan]

ive been trying to get a voided speedkill but so far ive gotten 3 beautiful normal speedkills already

[viral geyser]

I have 9 masks

[paper wing]

Unfortunately that’s just how it is

[true sky]

So hard they even show you his stats to make it fairer

[tulip spire]

Longnail 💔

[paper wing]

Very ready

[supple bay]

unity engine stuff i guess i mean its not hard to change that

[soft lake]

No I'm Trina get a ridiculous amount of hours on the game so I'm taking my sweet ass time but talk to that npc in songclave

[viral geyser]

Okay thank you

[tawdry sierra]

why

[tulip spire]

It’s a waste of two notches for like three millimeters of extra reach

[maiden stratus]

Ohhh I do the same too ngl I talk to every npc and try to get every iteam

[true sky]

Speed kills bring tears to my eyes I just love killing shit as fast as possible

[maiden stratus]

How much do you think it would take me?

[soft lake]

Nice

[maiden stratus]

(Hours)

[supple bay]

im done with act 3 in like 60 or 55 hours so it shouldnt take you that long

[soft lake]

I'm not sure, but there is a few annoying bosses and hard ones but some are very fun

[maiden stratus]

Ohh would you say you cleared bosses in 4-5 tries?

[supple bay]

like bosses as in just act 3 bosses in general

[maiden stratus]

Because if a normal person takes 5 tries it takes me 10-15

[soft lake]

Well there's one boss that has 34 waves of enemies before it

[supple bay]

if youre basing it off of normal bosses in general (in which idk if you have spoilers for act 3) then yeah it doesnt take me that long to beat a boss because i think im higher skilled then the average player

[true sky]

Still less tries than me lmao

[maiden stratus]

Ohh yea heard about that I also heard you can skip that after few waves

[tulip spire]

It’s not really that hard but you do see some really funny crashouts about it

[plucky stag]

fun fact: I started hollow knight on October 31st, 2021, literally just because of the bad pun of "holloween"

[maiden stratus]

I'm really bad at doing bosses because I have a bad habit of damage rushing

[maiden stratus]

How many does it take you?

[tidal osprey]

Where to view my completion %??? It did not show on the end screen

[soft lake]

Yeah after 3 rooms you can unlock a skip that allows you to skip to the 4th room which is the easiest and is the same room to help access the boss

[maiden stratus]

Ohhh

[supple bay]

i damage boost when i know im not gonna die because i know i can get a heal off

[maiden stratus]

Same but I'm not good at timing heals either

[median hatch]

get to act 3

[tulip spire]

Use injector band then you don’t have to worry about that anymore lol

[tidal osprey]

How???

[supple bay]

the main strat i used for healing when i was actually progressing through the game was just going into one of the top left or right corners and healing

[maiden stratus]

Idk what that is what does that doo??

[supple bay]

it makes you heal faster

[tulip spire]

Makes healing like 3 times faster

[unreal sierra]

Thats the best habit you can have

[maiden stratus]

Ohh I have thattt

[tulip spire]

It’s by far and away the best tool in the game

[tidal osprey]

WHY IS GRANDMOTHER SILK STILL HERE?????

[supple bay]

30 ish percent increase without multibind and 50 ish percent with it

[maiden stratus]

It is if you good at it I'm bad at it lmao

[polar canyon]

I need to stop dying five seconds after i start a new session far i to a steel soul run

[maiden stratus]

Because you just did normal ending

[unreal sierra]

Then get good at it

[supple bay]

so multibinder + injector is the best way to heal fast and better than normal

[tidal osprey]

Huuh? Do I have to defeat her again?

[supple bay]

you could be lame and quit to menu right before you die we all have atleast once

[polar canyon]

I just died to one of the cogwork core enemies cause i didn't realize how low my health was

[tulip spire]

Have you never heard of loading a cleared save and it just putting you back at the last save point

[maiden stratus]

That's what I did for the many waves room to get the melody for the elevator

[unreal sierra]

Best combo lwk

[median hatch]

were you in act 3 before

[polar canyon]

I took like 5 hits in 5 seconds and didn't think to be careful

[maiden stratus]

Like in hollow knight you can get void heart and do true ending here is also like that

[tulip spire]

Obviously not

[supple bay]

yeah its the same for bosses just you need to learn when to do it

[polar canyon]

Welp. Time to pogo everywhere again.

[tidal osprey]

No I'm in act 2, i have no idea how to get to act 3

[supple bay]

i havent even started my steel soul run is it like bad

[tulip spire]

Keep doing wishes and checking towns, collect more fleas

[polar canyon]

Most of my deaths have been from me being careless

[unreal sierra]

Not if u quit game when youre at one mask

[maiden stratus]

Need to complete all the wish find a lot of fleas and then you'll get a special task named soul and silk

[dry jolt]

from what i’ve seen act 1 seems to be the hardest (due to lack of upgrades and few masks)

[tidal osprey]

When I get to act 3 do I have to defeat grandmother silk again?

[light swan]

well this is definitely my best and fastest grand reed speedkill, im surprised i only have 2 needle upgrades and 3 crafting kits

[polar canyon]

But most of deaths have also been before I even get dash

[supple bay]

thats the lame thing to do but i prob will

[tulip spire]

Yeah once more

[tidal osprey]

Oh ok damn this game is a 9 to 5

[maiden stratus]

I'm rn struggling fighting that map lady because she so fast

[unreal sierra]

U doin it for the achievement?

[tidal osprey]

Is she gonna be more difficult? Cuz she was too easy bruh I need a challenge

[maiden stratus]

Lol

[supple bay]

yes

[dry jolt]

ss does seem to follow the path of hk where bosses early are harder on steel soul bc of little mobility but obv very late game bosses are just tough in general

[tulip spire]

Nah she’s only at the 2/3 mark after all

[supple bay]

but right now im doing hunters memento before i even try it

[tulip spire]

You could also do her cursed for a secret ending

That’s harder

[unreal sierra]

Wait what really??

[pliant coral]

lol?

[light swan]

based on frame analysis the second hit of my THREE HIT dash attack doesnt even come out for any frames it just has 1 frame of startup, thats ACTUALLY crazy bro

the fact that i’m trimming a 3 hit attack down to a 1 hit attack

[tulip spire]

If he didn’t get into act 3 then yes he needs to do it again after fulfilling the conditions

[plucky stag]

did anyone do low death runs to prepare for an eventual steel soul run?

[light swan]

and the fact that the attack still deals twice as much damage as every other dash attack in the game except like architect

[tulip spire]

I’m not sure I’m gonna bother with steel heart but I’d like the menu theme so I’m going to attempt just a clear

[unreal sierra]

I know whats happening but i also dont know whats happening at the same time

[timid plinth]

i did cheese soul

[supple bay]

what if you have every other achievement but that one
im doing it just for the 100% and to make the most out of my 20 dollars i spent

[unreal sierra]

Like how many attacks got squeezed in that i didnt see

[maiden stratus]

My goal is to get all these achievements then I'll probably stop playing this game

[light swan]

i still can’t believe a seemingly slow witch dash attack can go from 3 hits to 1 hit while still dealing twice as much damage like holy shit this thing is so funny

[plucky stag]

I'm satisfied with my 46/52; if I never play silksong again I'm happy to leave it at that

[tulip spire]

I don’t have speedrunning ones either but idk I don’t think I need to replay this another one or two more times

[light swan]

dash attack clawline + sawtooth pogo + clawline + sawtooth pogo, thats it

[timid plinth]

speed completion is pretty easy

[plucky stag]

missing cursed ending (which I only found out about after getting sister of the void), true hunter, and the four achievements related to speedrunning and steel soul

[maiden stratus]

I would love to play steal soul

[plucky stag]

if I ever come back for those last six I'll just lump in speed completion with steel heart

[timid plinth]

you can kinda cheese the first speedrun Achvm by using auto save

[unreal sierra]

What i find crazy is how fast u dropped down after the first double jump

[tawdry sierra]

why is the new bee boss so hard? i cant land a hit on him he keeps dodging all my attacks. i even tried to use my tools but how did the boss remove it!!! i tried using hunters crest with longnail and threadstorm as well

[plucky stag]

as an actual speedrunner thats no fun

[tulip spire]

I’m at widow in my current steel soul attempt and a bit nervous about her but at least after her there’s only like five more mandatory fights and none are super hard

[timid plinth]

yeah...

[unreal sierra]

Peak comment

[robust needle]

stop moving like an npc maybe

[plucky stag]

not of HK or skong though, I speedrun pvz

[light swan]

yea clawline cancelled the bounce

[tawdry sierra]

how do i beat the bee boss

[timid plinth]

i did a second attempt which i had 50 mins to spare so that was cool

[plucky stag]

tbh I feel no sense of urgency to do steel soul; if I do it I want to do it without cheesing it

[tame ravine]

Hive Knight?!

[robust needle]

dlc with extra percent prob is gonna make it easier anyways

[unreal sierra]

Ok tom now go back to hunting jerry

[plucky stag]

I'm not a completionist anyway so I want to make it so that if I do steel soul it will be from genuine interest instead of just trying to check a box

[tulip spire]

My plan is just buy out everyone by killing the Graymoor pilgrims a shitload and then pick up as much shit as possible before blasting through act 2

[light swan]

btw @arctic epoch infinitely pogoing is 100% possible, you can see here that pogo brings me down and clawline brings me up, repeating this would allow you to infinitely go up and down aka staying in the same spot

[plucky stag]

it's just an act so that the owner doesn't kick him out; in reality tom and jerry are buddies

[tulip spire]

Hoping to finish with 8 masks, full silk, two upgrades (do not want to fight Lugoli lol)

[plucky stag]

you do need it for 100% though

[tame ravine]

My plan was to play the game

[tawdry sierra]

how do i beat the knight boss

[plucky stag]

needle upgrades count as percentage, so Jim is a necessary boss for steel heart

[tulip spire]

Yeah I’m at present just focusing on finishing the steel soul run

[unreal sierra]

Wasnt lugoli one of the easier bosses
Or are u scared of ass

[plucky stag]

but troubled trobbio isn't

[tulip spire]

Like at all

Just to get at least one achievement and the menu theme

After that I can decide if I want more risk lol

[unreal sierra]

thats crazy my life was a lie

[light swan]

i could watch this all day tbh it’s so mesmerizing

[tulip spire]

I find steel soul immensely stressful so I just want something rather than nothing at all because I got overconfident and got killed by I don’t know fucking know the unraveled or something

[robust needle]

I'll definitely have to be way better before I even think about steel soul

[light swan]

at the end the enemy cut straight from 30 hp to 0 hp despite a needle hit dealing 16 damage, thats how satisfying sawtooth pogo is

[robust needle]

I'd die to the first enemy currently

[unreal sierra]

Sawtooth my beloved

[tulip spire]

So just trying to route to GMS with as much upgrading as possible fighting as few bosses or hard gauntlets as possible

[plucky stag]

not that bad but still, considering everything in this game does double damage that's what's deterring me at the moment

[paper wing]

Wait HOW DID YOU GET A CUSTOM TEXTURE ON THE HEALTHBAR!?
I haven’t been able to figure it out, I can’t figure out where to place the custom texture

[robust needle]

double damage is only half the issue

like if I took double damage in HK still easy Steel Soul, the game is simply just way way harder

[light swan]

there’s an option inside of the mod menu i forget what it’s called but you just check a checkbox

[tulip spire]

I’m not really worried about any bosses except like widow and like lace 2 though the hhg makes me a bit nervous

[tame ravine]

Thats a tool

[robust needle]

if I just quit cheesed I'd easily do it but that's fucking lame and cringe and lame

[paper wing]

I clicked the option but it’s still the regular texture…
Sorry but you’re the closest I have to someone who actually has a custom texture, the people at the modding discord did not help much

[tulip spire]

I also need to do the fucking craw gauntlet to get threadstorm. Dreading that

[paper wing]

Which installer are you using? R2modman?

[light swan]

send a screenshot of your mod menu rq

[light swan]

uh bepinex mod menu, the silksong standard

[tulip spire]

I did do garama skip for the first time this playthrough

[paper wing]

Dang it I’m not home right now, let me find some old screenshots

[robust needle]

second playthrough and it wasn't that bad I found

[tulip spire]

Never fighting that bitch sister splinter again!!!! Bye fucker!!!

[unreal sierra]

Easiest boss in act 1 except moss mother bro

[tulip spire]

There’s no way you think she’s easier than fourth chorus lol

[unreal sierra]

Yea she is

[tulip spire]

I fucking no hit that boss first try

[robust needle]

splinter is kinda a joke

[unreal sierra]

same

[supple bay]

theyre both the same difficulty imo

[robust needle]

both are just like whatever

[paper wing]

They’re both pretty easy, but splinter gets people more

[tulip spire]

Splinter just has a bunch of shit I really hate in a boss design so I’m glad she’s skippable

[robust needle]

you by far have more likelyhood to fuck up and die on beastfly or smth

[unreal sierra]

Crazy that sister splinter got nerfed maybe she was supposed to be a mini boss and widow the main boss

[paper wing]

I think it’s cause of the enemies. If you know how to spawn kill them they’re just no problem

[light swan]

have you tried the two enable health bar textured and enable custom boss background stuff

[paper wing]

They’re already on, but it’d still be the default texture

[tawdry sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/tormented-trobbio-silksong-trobbio-gif-4569968180187023549

[robust needle]

it'd make sense

[orchid locust]

splinter took me the least tries (2) of any act 1 boss

[paper wing]

Did you have to drag and drop the custom textures somewhere in the files?

[tulip spire]

I think she took me the most but this was pre nerf and it took me a bit to figure out the spawn kill

[paper wing]

TROOBBIOOOOOOO

[tulip spire]

Pre nerf you could get wombo comboed pretty easily

[arctic epoch]

i need more concrete evidence ngl, your hornet is still going upward by like 10 pixels every chain

[tulip spire]

Second playthrough she was easy but I still think her fight is absolutely zero fun at all

[light swan]

😭😭i might have to get back to you tmr when i can use my pc cuz if it’s not that then idk lol

[paper wing]

Alright then! Thanks for the help though

[median hatch]

is bro underwater

[light swan]

true but it’s VERY little, i think it’s impossible to stay perfectly still anyway

[tulip spire]

I just hate ceiling bosses a ton and a ceiling boss that constantly summons distractions? Awful

[paper wing]

I appreciate it a lot, I’ve basically gotten 0 support or updates for it 🙏

[arctic epoch]

was calling with my friends lmao, forgot to mute them

[arctic epoch]

gonna take that down cause my friend might not feel comfortable lmao 😔

[calm trench]

She was so easy why'd she get nerfed lol

[light swan]

aw i couldn’t watch it

[median hatch]

mariana trench citizen!?

[median hatch]

rip lol

[arctic epoch]

i'll get another one

[light swan]

anyways here’s an explanation of precisely why it’s so fast

[tulip spire]

It’s just her adds that got nerfed and it’s because if you didn’t spawn kill them you could get killed really fast

[calm trench]

maybe

[unreal sierra]

5 likes for hitless seth and shakra at the same time 🤞

[tulip spire]

Idk if her hp got nerfed too I thought she had 600 at launch but maybe not? If it was 600, that was way too much considering how non interactive her fight is

[arctic epoch]

I DID NOT MEAN TO DO THAT 😭

[calm trench]

I thought it was somewhat cool but that's also because I liked how the area looked lol

She was fine, same with 4th chorus (I think they're very similar)

[orchid locust]

how does sawtooth even work i’ve never used it

[unreal sierra]

Lwk clean

[unreal sierra]

Double jump and glide = everything next to u dies

[silver nacelle]

Double jump and float now unleash an attack.

[unreal sierra]

Or just takes damage

[tulip spire]

I really don’t like upslash boss fights because they’re slow and you basically can’t do any kind of cool combo, you just awkwardly jump around and get one hit in at a time. Splinter only having one move that even was a direct attack kinda made the fight feel even less engaging for me

[calm trench]

Fair enough

[light swan]

quite very beautiful, not exactly sawtooth pogoing but it’s still awesome comboing

[tulip spire]

Idk why team cherry put like three upslash bosses in a row lol

[faint hollow]

Guys I recently uploaded a silksong long form video on my channel if you want to kindly check it out and pls Leave suggestions I'm still new channel is linked in my bio

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-skong-gif-16335370890033522618

[faint hollow]

Wait it can heal more then 3 uhmm bet

[light swan]

only with multibinder (which also makes it deal 1 extra hit of damage

[orchid locust]

how does witch crest combo in the air so long does it have some crazy attack speed i’m missing by not using it

[light swan]

just pogo the same as other crests? there’s nothing making it special except pulling into the enemy

[orchid locust]

ok so i’m just bad at pogoing

[silver nacelle]

151 dmg with multibinder and claw mirrors.

[light swan]

i personally use dashes and downdashes to cancel/reset the vertical height from my pogos as you see here

or like in this video where i dash to stop myself from going too high

[light swan]

so yea it’s less you being bad or witch being special, it’s more of me chaining them well

[lean peak]

holy beast crest is like a direct counter to moorwing

[arctic epoch]

how much of your soul did you give away to land that abysmal combo?

[light swan]

not much it was quite easy

[light swan]

frr it’s crazy lol mooreing gets shit on

[silver nacelle]

The pogo is so good against flying enemies.

[arctic epoch]

it feels so hard to counter Second Sentinel cyclone alone but doing so after 3 consecutive pogo dash cancel?

[lean peak]

ik i just kept pogoing on him and spamming whenever i got the chance

[light swan]

witch is technically special because cancelling the pogo with a clawline makes it basically a down dash actualky, other crests dont do that

[tulip spire]

Moorwing probably didn’t need the damage nerf but it did need the “throws projectiles at you from 8 miles away” nerf I think. Idk if the defense being x2 was always like that or new but if it was x1 at launch lol holy shit

[light swan]

i’m always used to it or ready for it

[tulip spire]

It used to be way more likely to fly off screen and then launch projectiles at you

[light swan]

i try to time my sawtooth pogos or leave time in order to dodge it if i’m happening to be in the way

cuz my pogo can parry the hellicopter itself, giving me time to cross stitch

[lunar pelican]

what happens if eva is consumed before getting all tool sockets?

[light swan]

WAIT I FORGOT i have a video for this too

[lime wyvern]

you know how hornet says something like eiiiaaa while calling the bell beast
what if her name is bella

[tulip spire]

Nothing as far as I know

[light swan]

nothing you got all the upgrades already

[orchid locust]

eira

[light swan]

her name is eira as commonly known by the community

[lime wyvern]

ok but is that confirmed by team cherry

[light swan]

probably not idk

it’s more confirmed than bella

[lime wyvern]

how
if its not confirmed how can it be confirmed smh

[light swan]

because she calls the bell beast eira

[lunar pelican]

no i saw people getting 2 blue and 1 yellow but i only got 1 of each

[tulip spire]

There’s some implication it isn’t just an exclamation as she does say “eira” quietly after the bell eater fight but yeah no hard confirmation that’s a name

[light swan]

vesticrests? you can’t get 2 blue vesticrests

[tulip spire]

You have them both then

[timid plinth]

is eira a slur

[idle plover]

just beat sinners road hopefully bilewater is a little better

[hexed sigil]

You can

[hexed sigil]

I don't think everything hornet says is a slur

[tulip spire]

Survive his gauntlet

[lime wyvern]

ok but bella sounds similar and is more fitting so im headcanoning that and you cant stop meeee

[light swan]

i hope this is a silk post

[tulip spire]

It is lol

[orchid locust]

y’all aren’t on the meta i got the pinky crest with 18 green tool slots

[tulip spire]

Only 18?

[drowsy hazel]

You can.

[light swan]

those get super free in later acts

[orchid locust]

i haven’t bound bell beast yet so i only have 18 for now

[hexed sigil]

No no you can you can switch ur yellow vesticrest for a blue in the new patch 1.0.38269 (1.0.28891 was the previous version)

[knotty rock]

Yall have tips to beat savage beastly

[idle plover]

shaw is 100% a slur cuz hornet says that to us in hk but in sk she is more respectful and she hasnt said shaw yet

[lime wyvern]

shaw

[orchid locust]

true actually you never hear her say shaw in silksong

[tulip spire]

If you’re in early game just come back later really

[orchid locust]

is shaw a slur for vessels

[drowsy hazel]

Chat why can't I bind this crest?

[lime wyvern]

come back later if youre in act 1

[knotty rock]

How many nail upgrade

[tulip spire]

Like one should be enough

[lime wyvern]

are you sure you wanna bind the fucking radiance

[knotty rock]

I didn't even start act 2

[lime wyvern]

come back when you start act 2 imo

[knotty rock]

How do I start act 2

[orchid locust]

you can only bind that crest if you kill sherma

[lime wyvern]

keep playing the game youll see

[tulip spire]

Get inside the citadel

[knotty rock]

Bet

So do I need 2 needle upgrade

[tulip spire]

One should be enough

[steep acorn]

guys is there any trick with the wailing mother?

[knotty rock]

I alr have 1

[idle plover]

bro just git gud

[junior iris]

that would be sick actually