sk-discussion

[earnest rose]

Exactly

[young cairn]

We need to respect trobbio

He is the best boss in the game

[plucky stag]

they're the developers of celeste, an incredibly iconic indie platformer where you also climb a mountain

and i'm probably 99.9% certain that team cherry had celeste in mind when they were designing mount fay

[gaunt bronze]

i loved mt fay ngl

[brittle elbow]

that
actually makes so much sense.

[young cairn]

One of the best areas in tye game after sands of karak

[dusky flume]

[plucky stag]

they know those two game communities have a huge overlap, so i imagine mount fay was tc's love letter to celeste

[sweet scarab]

has anyone thought about uhmmmm
nail prosthetic?

[hexed barn]

i dont understand

[sweet scarab]

dead chat

[gaunt bronze]

dont google it please

[hexed barn]

i wont if you tell me

[sweet scarab]

dom most likely

[gaunt bronze]

sexual thing

[velvet fulcrum]

Daily Carmine Maid 5

[naive geyser]

Tbh i played celeste and i really liked it so i'm glad silksong has areas like mount fay and sands of karak

[sweet scarab]

dom is dominant
sub is submissive

[hexed barn]

bro im not 8 but how does that refer to gms

[west lotus]

the silksong brainrot is real i wrote lifeblood instead of lifeline in an essay

[plucky stag]

as a 202er (2021) i found the climb up mount fay oddly nostalgic

[gaunt bronze]

asking if she is submissive or dominant

[ocean bridge]

pile bunker flame vent prosthetic on hornet would go so hard

[sweet scarab]

did u send it?

[hexed barn]

what is that meant to mean bro

[light swan]

another gms nohit

[west lotus]

yes

[sweet scarab]

what happened

[gaunt bronze]

asking if she is submissive or dominant sexually

[light swan]

hopefully this new ones better than the previous ones

[velvet fulcrum]

I shall say the former, evidence shows it might be switch

[polar canyon]

Died BEFORE bell beast this time this is so exhilarating

[hexed barn]

oh…

[west lotus]

i didnt even notice until i got it back marked
it got marked as a word choice error but i still got 14/20 for language so

[arctic epoch]

daily practicing goes hard

[torn panther]

how to beat that stupid stupid stupid stupid STUPID moorwing unnerfed version

[ocean bridge]

sicknasty nice one

[soft lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1431889409980235776/makesweet-5v8did.gif

[velvet fulcrum]

Learn how that thing move idfk im not a teacher

[arctic epoch]

is that down dash i'm seeing?

[light swan]

yea, im trying to use it to not go too high

[hexed barn]

how do you do the clawline and pogo thing, it does so much damage

[light swan]

its better against gms than fourth chorus and other bosses since her hitbox is so tall

[arctic epoch]

dayum, those pogo definitely felt tighter than the previous gms nohit

[light swan]

i just pogo and then clawline

[hexed barn]

and it does that much damage?

[light swan]

the damage comes from the sawtooth circlet, which comes from me double jumping 2 frames before pogoing

[arctic epoch]

true, i mean you can kinda negate that by just using long claw

[hexed barn]

oh alright

[torn panther]

how to get the knights pogo

[gaunt bronze]

couldn't delver's be good against fourth chorus or is that a stupid question

[wraith island]

Mount fay need a bench near the second lake

[gaunt bronze]

reaper, wanderer, and technically shaman and witch

[torn panther]

oh i have reaper is it good

[arctic epoch]

what second lake? >->

[west lotus]

about halfway up

[velvet fulcrum]

All of them are good. Therefore go Beast.

[west lotus]

like, right after the hard part

[arctic epoch]

i can't think of a major second lake that would require a bench. The first one isn't the second so idk

[gaunt bronze]

its fine, a bit slow but safe

[hexed barn]

wanderer crest

[wraith island]

Here

[light swan]

im still gonna end up having to wait while pogoing above her i think

[west lotus]

fuckass water cave

[arctic epoch]

that's the first lake no? And you should have clawline by then

[wraith island]

First lake near Shakra

[arctic epoch]

i mean like, you can negate chorus's small hitbox by just using long claw and tap down dash instead

The window is tight so sometimes i feel like i'm pressing 3 buttons at the same time

[arctic epoch]

well, not really a major lake but yeah that's the long one, i think its fine really
You already have clawline

[wraith island]

I died here, after 30 minutes of climbing

[slim thorn]

If you are struggling to get used to hunter's pogo for platfroming or you wanna try something new go for it
Try to experiment from time to time though
Wanderer is probably the closest to hk playstyle if you find it, but is opposite of reaper in terms of range

[hexed barn]

guys for lost lace do i go to the weavenest in abyss and jump into the void with everbloom

[torn panther]

i need wanderer then

[light swan]

I GOT A BETTER ONE

[west lotus]

mount fay is actually the final boss of act 2, the rest is just a cutscene

[gaunt bronze]

wanderer has a short slash but is fast and decent spread of tool slots

but there are some that are better tool slot wise

[slim thorn]

Be cautious, it might be too good and make you not wanna experiment with other crests for like 60 hours if you really get too dependent of it

[light swan]

hopefully this is my best one yet

[wraith island]

Mount fay maybe easy on pc, but I'm playing on mobile

[light swan]

i didnt have many glaring issues in this one so hopefully im satisfied with it

[west lotus]

why tf is there a mobile port of skong

[pliant coral]

Wanderer's slash has longer reach than Hunter's lol
But it's much narrower

[wraith island]

And it's worse than white palace

[torn panther]

BUT HOW DO I BEAT THE STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID MOORWING

[velvet fulcrum]

This makes me realise how I was supposed to find sinner’s road and everything in that area earlier than the very end of Act 2 I suppose.

[torn panther]

they pirated it

[velvet fulcrum]

Remember how that thing moves, imo.
Quite plain.

[west lotus]

jump

[torn panther]

WHAT ABOUT PHASE GODDAMN 2

[hexed barn]

its not hard?

[wraith island]

For mobile players?

[west lotus]

jump again

[torn panther]

also idk if im missing some stuff

[light swan]

yea this ones definitely my best one yet @native canyon check it out

[torn panther]

what should i have at this point

[naive geyser]

Is it official?

[west lotus]

no

[wraith island]

Nah

[torn panther]

no the guy pirated it off some guy

[light swan]

OH MY GOD i did a sawtooth dash into a clawline into an instant sawtooth pogo thats kind of funny

[arctic epoch]

Damn all of these down dash are very well executed >->
I only saw one slow pogo chain at the end

This shit crazy bro

[west lotus]

i dont care if you dont own a console or pc, buy silksong

rven if you have a pirated copy already, buy silksong

[slim thorn]

You probably are
Its a biiig metroidvania after all
Remember to use pins to mark interesting spots on our map
And to backtrack from time to time
And try to explore well and knwoingly new zones

[west lotus]

isnt moorwing skippable

[wraith island]

Idk what is worse
Path of pain or mount fay

[arctic epoch]

POP

[west lotus]

path of mild inconvenience

[slim thorn]

PoP for sure

[torn panther]

so i have the cloak that lets my float, i beat fourth chorus i beat lace i beat bell beast

[velvet fulcrum]

I mean, probably shouldn’t, even if it is.

[torn panther]

OH THANK GOD I THOUGHT MOUTN FAY IS HARDER

[summer ridge]

thats what they do to me in sinners road

[light swan]

yea im fine with the slow pogo chain, i was a bit disoriented from all the falling rocks and the threads and needles that i wasnt keeping track of gms's direction as well

[woeful ingot]

Mount Fay is easy, wym?

Sorry, easy relative to the rest of the game

[restive hearth]

mount fey was path of mild inconvenience, surface is path of moderate discomfort

[west lotus]

fay is like path of pain but instead of having nowhere to stand you have a time limit

[arctic epoch]

have you fought Second Sentinel by any chance?

[torn panther]

why is my thing next to my masks glowing

im using reaper crest

[light swan]

my favorite boss

[velvet fulcrum]

Smack something.

[slim thorn]

Nothing in silksong goes as dificult in platforming as PoP
Altough t does have many more platforming sections sprinkled through all the game
Try to use crest with good platforming pogos if struggling
Or learn how to pogo with the more difficult ones

[lapis yoke]

bruh i am going through my first playthrough im currently in city of tears and its realy making me tear up fight that teleport thingy any tips

[wraith island]

It's not easy, only 2 benches, long run and fuckass lake

[summer ridge]

when u heal and hit something you get orbs that give silk

[light swan]

i have two actually

[west lotus]

you have enough silk to bind, it activates abilities for some crests
for reaper its just cosmetic tho i think

[light swan]

im not really satisfied with both of them and im currently working on getting a third hitless second sentinel video

[west lotus]

i think there are technically harder sections, pain was a test of endurance more than anything

[soft lake]

Any enimies I can practice the strat on?

[naive geyser]

Its not, hitting enemies gives you silk ball things

[west lotus]

he said glowing next to his masks, not on hornet

[plucky stag]

this is the silksong chat, but just give it some time, it'll come

[slim thorn]

Crests have different effects and stuff either visually or mechanically
Reaper makes so when you heal you get a buff that last for a bit (or until getting hit) that makes you reap silk orbs from enemis that are worth 1/2 a silk notch
Its pretty cool for starters
Altough healing then needing to not get hit to get more silk to either cast skills or heal again is a bit weird

[woeful ingot]

No benches on PoP… If you’re having difficulty with freezing you need to move faster. You can’t stall. You can even use flintslate to give you a few extra seconds.

I wonder if overdosing would help.

[torn panther]

OMG MOORWING IS ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE

[light swan]

i recommend big enemies like grand reeds, aside from that just run around the citadel and sawtooth pogo off of them to practice getting it into muscle memory

[slim thorn]

I dont think so
Altough i cant relate at all about endurance on PoP

[naive geyser]

I found moorwing easy and they literally nerfed him after

[soft lake]

Kk

[arctic epoch]

how can you even do this robot hitless, i feel like i'm overdoing it

[velvet fulcrum]

Is Zanzibar helping you?

[torn panther]

IM PLAYING THE FIRST VERSION OF SILKSONG

[torn panther]

tf is zanbar

[woeful ingot]

Moorwing is definitely a learning curve, but easy on your second play through.

Just take your time and dance

||or just move the flea caravan there||

[slim thorn]

How do we tell you that it got nerfed big
Try to learn the attack patterns and not stand too close too long

[naive geyser]

He means garmond and zaza

[light swan]

second sentinel is a LOT more difficult hitless aggressively, its why i like the boss lol

[torn panther]

im playing the unnerfed stupid

[slim thorn]

Oh

[west lotus]

moorwing is fine you just jump

[torn panther]

im gna kms

[naive geyser]

Unnerfed isnt too bad still

[gaunt bronze]

its significantly smaller overall, and no, they are about equal, even if wanderers is a bit longer, its not significant enough to be considered "longer" since it is a tiny bit forward.

[slim thorn]

Ireadittoolateandthenslowmodedidntallowmetocorrectmeandiforgotabouteditingmyothertextintime aaaaaaa

[torn panther]

bro i just beat nkg on radiant and came to ss why this now

[arctic epoch]

i will get it, will farm that clip!

[west lotus]

bro moorwing is not harder than nkg

unless youre still struggling with hornets moveset

[torn panther]

nkg on radiant is easier than moorwing

[wraith island]

Bro i can't focus on this stupid place because i has to climb this fuckass mountain again just to go there

[light swan]

also relaly nice fight btw im seeing a lot more consistency and confidence and improvement comapred to fourth chorus

[slim thorn]

Unless you spend as much time in unnerfed moorwing as you did with radnkg it shouldnt be bad
Give it a few more tries

[naive geyser]

Moss mother is the final boss of silksong

[torn panther]

i did radnkg first try 😭😭

[woeful ingot]

Why are you not using clawline to grab onto the enemy?

[coarse leaf]

where is the "||cage of one who raged against the silken lie||"? is it big flea?

[velvet fulcrum]

One can go somewhere else and try Beast Crest. You will hate the pogo, but (IMO) it’s the best crest for most of the game.

[slim thorn]

Same
Meanwhile vengefly kings rad took like 20

[west lotus]

also like if youre fighting radiant nkg you have to have fought mormal nkg and normal grimm
so by the time youre doing that youre quite familiar with what youre up against

[celest bramble]

moss mothersssssss features 10 moss mother in broodmother small arena

[gaunt bronze]

moorwing felt balanced before the nerfs but i can understand them.

[pliant coral]

you literally agreed with everything I said?

[west lotus]

what even got nerfed exactly

[wraith island]

I'm doing this, bruh

[celest bramble]

if anything phantom should do 2 dmg like last judge

[torn panther]

i cant even do vengefly kings rad

[slim thorn]

Even more cinsiderig you have optional help on moorwing

[pliant coral]

its projectiles used to to 2 masks

[torn panther]

then where should i go

[west lotus]

thats fine

[woeful ingot]

You have weavelight?

[torn panther]

i got reaper crest and now i have no where i sat on some bench with a guy next to me

[dry jolt]

i agree. moorwing kicked my ass before any patches but i didn’t think it was unfair

[restive hearth]

lmao yea, radnkg was piss easy but radgruz was the bane of my existence

[pliant coral]

everything that does like the double hit thing used to do 2 masks
now some of them don't and it's lowkey kinda weird lol

[torn panther]

criege

[gaunt bronze]

you said its longer, i said its not because its insignificant.

[west lotus]

swap back to hunter fr
a lot of the fights are designed primarily for hunter crest

[slim thorn]

Do abs inferno before rad nkg its a lifehack or smt trust me

[torn panther]

can i not do it now can i go somewhere else?

[pliant coral]

I liked it when the cogs did 2... because when you reach the damaged cogs in act 3 they only do 1 and it felt really cool

[west lotus]

you can skip it entirely if you want to

[torn panther]

HOW

[pliant coral]

it literally is longer tho

[dry jolt]

i’m finding this to be true upon doing a hunters playthrough (i mained reaper first playthrough)

[west lotus]

and "ill do it later" is never not an option in a metroidvania

[torn panther]

then where can i go

[slim thorn]

You can ask garmond for help, skip moorwing in like 2 ways,
Grind or buy more tools or smt, or just keep trying it has to work eventually

[woeful ingot]

Use weavelight to give you extra silk and regenerate silk faster, that will allow you to do clawline more and back to back

[dry jolt]

especially not in hk games💀

[velvet fulcrum]

I am going to be the advocate for Beast “Only” runs for the next 5 seconds
It’s cool asf.

[torn panther]

who tf is gararmond

[west lotus]

the one universal truth of hk is that you probably missed something

[slim thorn]

[celest bramble]

i literally never get lost in Silksong unlike HK, i always have places to go and before I know it theres 3 more areas i can go

[slim thorn]

Wdym you dont know have you not explored grimmoor

[torn panther]

who is this

[west lotus]

hunters journal

[velvet fulcrum]

Parasite.

[timid plinth]

u speak

[dry jolt]

absolutely, i found prolly 90 percent ish of stuff blind on both games but the map is so big its hard to find everything

[slim thorn]

Nuu
Garmond should be around middle height of a tower or smt

[torn panther]

where is garamamond

[dense olive]

Spoilers -> ||warrior on a bug that dies in act 3||
If you click, it's 100% entirely on you!

[west lotus]

GARAMA

[dry jolt]

beast looks like so much fun, though i am scared for the platforming

[slim thorn]

You should be able to find them again after first talk in the room previous to moorwing if you lose again to it iirc

[west lotus]

that last part didnt have to be there

[gaunt bronze]

not significantly

[celest bramble]

did he die or just fall asleep i was never really sure

[slim thorn]

WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT
You even make it sound believable

[woeful gale]

where's the guy that does crazy witch crest combos with second sentinel

[torn panther]

whats that crest

[west lotus]

me when i have 6 pixels longer range

[timid plinth]

pretty much unnecessary

[dense olive]

Guess

[west lotus]

hunter vs wanderer

[dense olive]

He wanted to know who garmond was

[gaunt bronze]

less visible one with narrow slash is wanderer, thick slash is hunter

[torn panther]

ok

[gaunt bronze]

real bro real

[wraith island]

This one? Alr using it, but still annoying

[slim thorn]

And the frames are less so it also feels harder to hit (alongside width)

[timid plinth]

is that mobile

[woeful gale]

yeah

[next marsh]

True Ending Boss Hitless: No Red Tools 2:11

[slim thorn]

Weavelight so good to clawline everywhere
Hurted a bit when doing voidmothers thingie

[timid plinth]

looks a lot harder to play on that shi

[west lotus]

id usually bring ascendents grip too, good qol especially since some of the safe points on fay are on walls

[woeful gale]

now without evolved crest

[next marsh]

Just say without wanderers or evolved

[dry jolt]

||i wasn’t entirely sure he died, most are assuming he did, which definitely seems possible, but i am still not sure🤔, i was also hopeful quirrel hadn’t died in hk so there’s that haha||

[woeful gale]

like base hunter's

[vivid fractal]

I'm doing a Beast-only, no-tools playthrough (with obvious exceptions like pre-Hunter's-March and Broodfeast)

Finished 99% in-game completion; I have Coral Tower + Seth + Nyleth + Lost Lace + Watcher at the Edge left (I think I'm done with everything else in bosses, including all three missable bosses)
In non-boss stuff, I only have the Hero, Craw, and Surface mementos (Hunter's will probably be a pain, Guardian will be absolute torture, the Heart+Grey I'll get from a boss, and Sprintmaster's should be chill)

[next marsh]

I use hunter’s for the moveset anyways

[celest bramble]

architect is best, drill masterrace

[woeful ingot]

Yes, but this area is not as hard as you’re making it seem. Deepnest, White Castle and The Hive was worse than this

[slim thorn]

||you can just depict the bug instead of clearly spoiling waaaaay futurerelated content you are 99% sure they dont know about|| or smt

[brittle elbow]

why does everyone think garmond is dead

[dense olive]

||Even if u go and beat LL he doesn't ""wake up"". He's dead||

[next marsh]

Also I cannot believe that wanderer’s crest has more range

[timid plinth]

this

[west lotus]

the bugs on sinners road love my drilling

[dry jolt]

||damn😔||

[gaunt bronze]

i like architect

[wraith island]

I cleared all of them, but struggling here

[dense olive]

I spoilered it and gave a clear warning, not my fault they clicked

[woeful gale]

when the world needed him most illusion2 disappeared

[celest bramble]

everyone uses architect for the tool spam, I only use it because i like drills, we are not the same'

[noble jolt]

You must realize technicality does not stop you from looking like an asshole

[next marsh]

I genuinely cannot wait until the pantheons are released

[slim thorn]

Still unnecesary, you directed it at someone you know they shouldnt click

[light swan]

no i didnt

[dense olive]

Mad

[next marsh]

Until then, I’m uninstalling silksong

[west lotus]

i refuse to run archi cos no parry

[wraith island]

Hive not hard btw

[noble jolt]

naw just pointing out the obvious

[dry jolt]

me either i don’t want to attempt steel soul until i can master all bosses😭

[woeful gale]

How does witch bind work 😭 we don't know shit in #sk-help

[dense olive]

Refer to this

[west lotus]

BUY SILKSONG

[slim thorn]

Same

[woeful ingot]

That’s what’s got me puzzled, why is this harder than those? There’s nothing actively attacking you (except the two bots) and you just need to keep moving

[dense olive]

Who are you to assume there's something forcing them to click

[woeful ingot]

Hive is definitely harder than Mount Fey

[wild monolith]

Why tf are ppl making hornet lesbian with no evidence of it at all

[next marsh]

Mate Silksong was not an enjoyable experience all the way through for me

[maiden ridge]

fr

[celest bramble]

but money

[noble jolt]

bro posts this when he likes concord more then silksong 💀

you aren't tricking anyone into forgetting your wacky ass opinions

[woeful ingot]

Because funny to end the Pale King’s lineage, idrk i just think it’s cool

[west lotus]

BLASPHEMY

[next marsh]

Speedrunning takes too much patience ironically, and I prefer hitlessing bosses

[timid plinth]

maybe you are new to the internet

[next marsh]

So there's really nothing for me to do anymore

[slim thorn]

If you dont want the person tou directed the message to read it then it doesnt even make sense to write the message at first

[dense olive]

What the fuck is concord

[wild monolith]

Nah i just hate shippers

[coarse leaf]

i get to see my bestie again ❤️

[pliant coral]

I never said it was significant

[next marsh]

Because I'm not griding shards to annihilate a single boss I already mog

[noble jolt]

lmao he's pretending it doesn't exist He wants so hard to try to hide it.

[celest bramble]

i only did it in 9 sols becasue it makes refighting easy

[slim thorn]

Big birb bug be best

[wraith island]

You can't make any mistakes and you need to speedrun it because of the fucking cold
Perfect speedrun...HOW

[dense olive]

Bro. Cord. As in cordelius. From brawl stars. You slime

[maiden ridge]

guys broodmother is harder than grand mother silk

[dry jolt]

||in her note for conchfly she says she had multiple mates but she outlived them all, so ppl gonna do what they will w that lmao||

[woeful ingot]

You can make plenty of mistakes, you just need to make sure you find a light

[noble jolt]

You would assume she's bisexual yeah

[dense olive]

Fckin chimp bro

[noble jolt]

or maybe pan?

[celest bramble]

or they are just too weak and got killed somewhere

[brittle elbow]

rosary cannon just needs to change into a shotgun
like the flukemarms in og hk

[dry jolt]

facts

[next marsh]

#hk-discussion message Did it in HK

[wild monolith]

[next marsh]

I hope that GMS is a much more complex fight in the pantheons

And LL stays the same

[slim thorn]

Unless refuted and even so anyone can headcannon or au anything to anything on the spectrum or beyond because imagination or smt

[next marsh]

I don't want to fight LL 4 man

[plucky stag]

I feel this way with plants vs. zombies speedrunning; the any% run can be over 3 1/2 hours even at a mid level

[slim thorn]

But include a harder version too right??

[next marsh]

#sk-discussion message

[gaunt bronze]

to say something is longer when it is not going to make a difference is a mistake. If i said that a food that is 95 calories is better for you than a food that is 100 calories, that would be mistake since 5 calories is not going to affect me that much

[wild monolith]

I just dont get the logic of yall shippers why cant a character just be straight?

[light swan]

YES FUCKING YES LETS FUCKIGN GO I GOT ANOTHER SECOND SENTINEL HITLESS VIDEO @arctic epoch @native canyon

[next marsh]

Why can't a character just be Bi?

[noble jolt]

Why tf are ppl making hornet straight with no evidence of it at all

[tulip spire]

I just hope they don’t try to do a hard version that’s just “what if she’s too fast to avoid taking damage without heavily abusing I frames” like they did with Absrad

[slim thorn]

There is never enough versions of a boss

[next marsh]

I frames were just a part of HK, but yeah, parry spam would get annoying

[wild monolith]

I mean id say characters are straight until stated otherwise

[slim thorn]

Just too ridiculous difficult mods when running out of other versions

[noble jolt]

SOMEONE fell into the gross little pit of viewing straight as the default assumption.

[plucky stag]

it's also entirely possible she became aroace due to being so old she outlived all her partners

[celest bramble]

I just realize he gets Seth + Pinstress + Lace moves

[tulip spire]

Would also force you to run cross stitch

[noble jolt]

of course, of course.

I bet you think the default human being is a straight white guy with brown hair and brown eyes

[plucky stag]

I'm the same, except my default is aroace; usually an orientation is quickly established anyway

[slim thorn]

Makes sense if all of them are elite pin wielders or similar
Wait ss doesnt use pins aint it....

[wild monolith]

Is there such a thing as a default human?

[next marsh]

I have so much I need to practice lmao

[light swan]

yea, the citadel tends to copy other bugs when designing their robots

[plucky stag]

I just don't think of that sort of thing anyway unless it becomes relevant to the plot

[light swan]

individual scissor blades yes, fucntion like dual weilding pins tho

[final parrot]

Like real life clankers

[next marsh]

Yeah, can't wait for the 500 million mods that do that

[noble jolt]

no but there's not such a thing as a default sexuality either

[celest bramble]

i get the other 2 but how did they steal lace moves

[light swan]

i mean you dont have to practice to be like me lol, its like super difficult

[primal plank]

act 3 spoilers
||FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. I JUST DEFEATED LOST GARAMOND. FUCK. I CRIED||

[remote talon]

man bilewater has amasing music

[light swan]

idk, maybe lace learned from second sentinel

[next marsh]

Hm?

[timid plinth]

whar

[final parrot]

Spoiler in a spoiler chat💔💔💔

[coarse leaf]

and i had just forgotten again

[dry jolt]

😔😭

[next marsh]

Sorry I don't understand

[primal plank]

safe than sorry

[timid plinth]

dw hes dead

[primal plank]

i Know

[wild monolith]

I feel continuing this conversation would make me seem homophobic. Let be clear im not

[noble jolt]

somebody was basically saying that the default is being straight and that should be assumed if there's no information one way or the other and that all other attractions are deviations from this "normal" straightness

[brittle elbow]

you ever miss when nintendo actually made good games? instead of just being the largest patent trolls today?

[noble jolt]

YEY MESSMER

[light swan]

"i have so much i need to practice lmao" you dont NEED to practice like me, im not a standard you should try to reach

[slim thorn]

It deosnt hurt anyone tho

[timid plinth]

i'd rather stay away from this nerdy talk

[wild monolith]

Wouldnt be team cherry game without killing a good npc

[next viper]

Hi

[next marsh]

No I genuinely like silksong high level combat and I want to talk shop with someone who gets it

[primal plank]

i mean they still make pretty good games. you can pelt them with stones as long as you'd like for their aggressive litigious nature but the games are still pretty good

[final parrot]

Too late, I've already gone to go and do RHOG

[next marsh]

Why the witches crest?

[light swan]

ah lol

[atomic lichen]

should i do the twisted bud quest before i go to act 3

[celest bramble]

it hurts when i need an extra click

[next marsh]

Just for funsies lol?

[light swan]

fyi ive taught like 4 people how to play like i do and they all struggle a lot during the beginning so its definitely a hard journey

[slim thorn]

I guess it hurts more on pc but still more pros than cons

[next marsh]

Did you see my hitless LL?

[remote talon]

injector band + multibinder + claw mirror + witch crest = destruction i think

[dry jolt]

idk personally i think hk universe has a diversity of relationships but it makes total sense given the absurdity of some rl bug relationships (for example, some bugs kill their mates, other non bug creatures can transform themselves, the list goes on and on) it just makes for an interesting world

[primal plank]

am i allowed to talk about how fucking woke silksong is /pos or is there a better place for that

[celest bramble]

i had a few Clips of LL no hitting hornet

[next marsh]

I mean this is the spoiler chat

[silver nacelle]

It's also better to find your sauce instead of copying someone else's.

[true sky]

I remember this fight being harder than that. Bro got stomped

[final parrot]

Silksong is WOKE😡😡

[primal plank]

religious trauma. capitalism. abortions

[atomic lichen]

silksong is not woke

[light swan]

the dash attack deals 2x damage and hits 3 times, with animation cancelling you can cancel 2 out of these 3 hits for insane speed and damage
the pogo has a lot of invincibility frames which makes for even more skill expression, and you can do some precise tech by double jumping with sawtooth circlet 2 frames before pogoing in order to pull the sawtooth circlet into the enemy and make your pogo deal 2x damage each time

[primal plank]

me when i lie

[celest bramble]

woke is never a problem when the game is good

[wild monolith]

Its a good thing hk isnt accurate to real life cuz female mantises bite off the head of their mate

[next marsh]

Thats cool! Are animation cancels possible on controller?

[dry jolt]

my 2nd playthrough i beat him 2nd try, i think he might just be hard first time around bc many ppl encounter him lower level

[light swan]

i think so, i dont play on controller but i dont see why they wouldnt be

[celest bramble]

so do spider maybe hornet's mate all dies because she ate them

[final parrot]

Well have we ever seen a male mantis other than traitor lord

[brittle elbow]

uhhh
which game was good?? the switch 2 manual? mario kart world?? legends z-a??

[wild monolith]

Nuclear bomb while binding

[atomic lichen]

makes me wonder how pale king didn't die when he mated with herrah

[noble jolt]

I also did that one hitless, but it was pre-Nerf shaman so I don't know how impressive it really is

[next marsh]

I mean like animation cancelling in Stardew is restricted to K&M

[wild monolith]

We havent seen beheaded mantis bodies either

[primal plank]

donkey kong bananza's omission is very silly and you know it
i will not engage with this discussion any further

[celest bramble]

he is strong enough to not get eaten

[noble jolt]

Speak and be heard

[primal plank]

got pegged by*

[final parrot]

Because they burned it

[brittle elbow]

1 good game out of 4
yea ok

[next marsh]

#sk-discussion message bump btw

[true sky]

Deadass thought to myself “Man why did I wait til act 3 to do this?? Now he’s voided and I’m gonna get my ass handed to me even harder” just to beat the fuck out of him first try

[celest bramble]

also this

[primal plank]

what im saying is that they still make some good games you fuckin dunce
ok now im actually done

[ocean bridge]

they are, i do a lot of canceling sawtooth into an attack here

[wild monolith]

Perchance

[noble jolt]

it's never a problem for something to be aware or knowledgable, it's all about execution on how it uses that awareness

[silver nacelle]

Pre-nerf and post-nerf shaman are virtually the same save for threadstorm, cross stitch and sharp dart.

[brittle elbow]

nah pale king is the nerd with a secret freaky side

[still stratus]

why is this labeled SK discussion????

[dry jolt]

yeah absolutely😭 but if ||the green princes really are mantises it would make sense why they love each other so much, neither of them are female and have the desire to kill the other, never thought abt that but it’s cool to think abt now🤔||

[noble jolt]

Skong

[still stratus]

of course

[final parrot]

This is a spoiler full chat

[noble jolt]

i main witch

https://youtu.be/oE7CYEiQGlY?si=spkFlJuBYoQWwVvh

[brittle elbow]

but still mostly bad games
you can't just say "some good games" it's so vague

[atomic lichen]

herrah is why he installed buzzsaws into his palace

[wild monolith]

Honestly the princes seemed more like grasshoppers to me

[timid plinth]

spoiler tag users pmo

[dry jolt]

i can see that too

[noble jolt]

Crickets or grasshoppers

[celest bramble]

maybe his partner is always in his head and never existed thats why it is a ghost when you fight them

[atomic lichen]

greeen prince is a grasshopper. I could tell right away

[silver nacelle]

Okay. I was just talking about what you said before about pre Nerf shaman.

[wild monolith]

Theyre thicc while mantises are thin irl

[next marsh]

What are the inputs to pull it off

[noble jolt]

I was just sharing it I'm sorry

[celest bramble]

not as thicc as architect

[noble jolt]

Tampered image

Love the character as they are or not at all

[dry jolt]

sorry, i understand the game has been out for a bit but if anyone stumbles across the chat i just don’t want to ruin the experience for them

[true sky]

As an aggressive player, I aspire to be like you. The aggressiveness is just

[sweet scarab]

og architect better ngl

[timid plinth]

thats their fault for mindlessly going in this chat, never feel bad

[sweet scarab]

IM GOING FUCKING INSANE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SNASNUM FORNESIUM CAZLOM

[ocean bridge]

in a lot of cases it’s pretty much just jump->attack->double jump->attack->float->attack->land->repeat

theres a bit of a rhythm to it i haven’t yet mastered

[rugged epoch]

Can someone gift me silksong on steam? Dm me if yes lul

[silver nacelle]

That's fine. I was just clarifying that post Nerf shaman only lost significant damage in threadstorm. It lost only 6 dmg in pale nails and silk spear and got extra damage in cross stitch and sharp dart.

[atomic lichen]

no

[next marsh]

Ask one more time and I'm pinging a mod

[ocean bridge]

thanks! i aspire to kill shit as fast as possible to prove beast crest can definitely compare to the likes of wanderer and architect in terms of killtimes

[true sky]

So on switch legit just spam Y and B

[crisp heron]

brocake i feel bad atp youve been asking this for loke 3 days

[rugged epoch]

Lol

[crisp heron]

someone please buy this man the game already 😔

[true sky]

Also I’m js now unlocking beast crest and feeling it for myself, the pogo is not as ass and people made it out to be

[light swan]

id love to do this but i know id prove myself wrong 😔

[timid plinth]

beast crest is so peak

[dry jolt]

i do agree silksong is a game best played alone, i didn’t touch this chat until i had beaten it (act 3) lmao

[true sky]

I wish I could do it but I just know my fingers are not fast enough for ts

[rugged epoch]

What about u lol

[silver nacelle]

Rooksby and illusion2 collab when?

[crisp heron]

im broke and also need money for reanimal and the new tomodachi game and the dmaganronpa remake next year

[tulip spire]

Can it just be a rule that e-begging is not allowed? This shit is obnoxious and embarrassing

[ocean bridge]

yup! tho my setup is a lil’ different on controller

in switch controller terms

• jump is on X
• attack is on R (right shoulder button)

[true sky]

Lord that feels so wrong to imagine but it probably makes it like 10x easier

[ocean bridge]

(my xbox controls pictured here)

[timid plinth]

pls dont, i wan to beg for robux so bad

[silver nacelle]

Is the attack button change so you can press the attack button without worrying about breaking the controller? It feels harsh to spam attack sometimes.

[coarse leaf]

@ocean bridge got beast crest as early as possible for my beast only run

[ocean bridge]

pretty much, cos now both buttons are pressed with two different fingers so it’s easier for me to alternate the presses

[ocean bridge]

it’s more a holdover from my hundreds of hours spent playing soulsborne games where RB/R1 is used to attack

[true sky]

Bro I just tried to do it and my right bumper finger legit started vibrating

[silver nacelle]

I see. Makes sense.

[true sky]

Oh shit it’s like 1 am I need to get my ass to bed

[ocean bridge]

it will take some getting used to definitely, but again this is just my preference

your call really if you find it easier to waddle your thumb back and forth between Y and B

[light swan]

oh man im actualky so happy with my new videos today

i’ve been trying so long for an actuay satisfactory second sentinel video

[celest bramble]

only the ass? put your whole body on the bed and sleep

[plucky stag]

is anyone dressing up as a silksong character this Halloween?

[light swan]

but second sentinel is just so weirdly difficult

[true sky]

Been doing that my whole life in the case i need to spam jump and attack so yeah it is easier

[celest bramble]

small room

[true sky]

My thumb is just really fast lmao

[true sky]

I’ll get right on that

Buh bye

[celest bramble]

[timid plinth]

the default controls are similar of that of hk so i stuck with it

[main kayak]

I finally got 100% after like 80 hours did I cook?

[ocean bridge]

hell yea

early beastfly is tuff but doable

good news is you’re back in your element

[timid plinth]

congrats

[coarse leaf]

i got him the second time around

[main kayak]

Ngl took me WAY to long to find out I needed a fully upgraded tool pouch to get 100%...

[light swan]

it’s not that i just get hit easily from my strategies

[steep pulsar]

i think i ate too much silk

[torn panther]

dOMG I FINALLY BEAT UNNERFED MOORWING

[ocean bridge]

me but with cogflies in my first playthrough

got to 99% wondering what the last red tool was

and then i realized i never actually used or even needed cogflies

[plucky stag]

that's more than twice as fast as me

I took 170 hours to 100% complete silksong, but I'm still proud of it since it means that where I lack in beating games fast I make up for in persistence

[main kayak]

I was licking every wall in pharloom until I gave up and went to reddit

[harsh mica]

this song is smooth like silk

[main kayak]

Still need some mementos though

[plucky stag]

I did that too, except when I did cave (at 92%) I just asked for slight nudges and small hints, I still got 100% without cracking open a guide

[main kayak]

I need like 3 I think

Oh shoot

I need to fight watcher at the edge

[torn panther]

wth is shellwood

[ocean bridge]

mementos dont count for % but they look cool on your shelf

[main kayak]

Boy do I got a story for you

[plucky stag]

the next area after bellhart

[torn panther]

is there anything important in bellhart

[timid plinth]

an ancestral art

[main kayak]

Yea if your going for 100%

[plucky stag]

a lot, I think it'd be better if you just played the game

[light swan]

with a good second sentinel done and a good gms done i don’t think i genuinely have anything left in act 2

[torn panther]

a whatwhat waht art

[light swan]

i’m probably never gonna continue to do first sinner so i don’t think i’m gonna redo that fight

[timid plinth]

please play the game if you dont wanna get spoiled

[torn panther]

okokk

[crisp heron]

I hate forgetting lace isnt just the name of a silksong character then seeing other stuff when searhing up lace in gifs😔

one time i saw lacenet in college hallways and it was not the ship

[plucky stag]

still proud to have made it through silksong unscathed by spoilers

[main kayak]

I got so mad I lost my like 2 hour steel soul run to freaking ant in hunters march

[ocean bridge]

im so glad the “spoilers” i got spoiled by were all fake

[plucky stag]

I even had a moment where I dodged a bullet by an inch

[crisp heron]

i was on the final boss and decided to pt it off for the next day and while in college the next day i got spoiled for the ending

[timid plinth]

i got spoiled a bit at the true ending but i was happy regardless

[tulip spire]

Don’t really get why people go out of their way to throw away their one and only first playthrough by asking to be spoonfed every single detail along the way

[plucky stag]

in the silksong thread I post in in another server, somebody talked about act 3 without spoiling its existence

[main kayak]

I was still in shell wood when I had an absolute bomb drop on my face🥀

[plucky stag]

but what do you know, that day was also the day I reached act 3, just an hour and a half before I checked that thread

[crisp heron]

was it the ||haunted sherma|| fight?

[tulip spire]

I knew there were three acts and that somewhere in the game (but not where), there was a booby trapped bench

[plucky stag]

jesus christ, that's the exact opposite of dodging a bullet

[main kayak]

Excuse you?

[tulip spire]

That’s about all I got spoiled on

[crisp heron]

that's finding a safe place to hide and escaping the bullet then immediately spontaneously combusting

[plucky stag]

or like the numerous fake benches in the game

[main kayak]

Some one leak me a frame of the true ending🥀

[plucky stag]

you sit down only to get booby trapped or even plunged into the bile water

[timid plinth]

i got spoiled on the trapped bench too but i didnt knew how to deactivate it

[tulip spire]

Oh and I did see people getting mad as fuck about Hunter’s March but I didn’t know that was the area they were getting mad at. The skarrguard kicked my ass three times so I decided to come back later

[plucky stag]

I had quite the reaction when I saw the true ending cutscene

[torn panther]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-23741516

[main kayak]

Got jumped by four of them once

[crisp heron]

i somehow didn't die in hunters march or the craw arena on my first playthrough but on my 2nd they kicked my ass

[main kayak]

I did that

[torn panther]

then why u asking

[main kayak]

Wait nvm not yet🧟

[crisp heron]

Dude can we not post cuphead spoilers

[plucky stag]

especially the moment when ||the knight comes back and saves its sister||, I was clapping like a seal

[timid plinth]

i figured i needed a dash against skarrgar

[main kayak]

Yea

[timid plinth]

spoiler tag user, its joeover

[torn panther]

thats not cuphead thats chapter 7 of deltarune

[zenith juniper]

Ain't no way TikTok people are actually romanticizing a heist

[plucky stag]

spoiler: the devil gets defeated

[crisp heron]

i dont see nubert killing gaster in that gif

[main kayak]

It's the true ending of silksong that got leaked to me

[tulip spire]

TikTok “people”

[torn panther]

gaster is actually the roaring knight he says that in chapter 6

[zenith juniper]

The cornballs on TikTok, do you want me to call them creatures?

[timid plinth]

it is all of those silksong vids with the spoiler thumbnails that pmo

[crisp heron]

tiktok people after putting a massive spoiler FRAME 1 of a game that just came out but its okay because they put spoiler warning in the description

[crisp heron]

no pluey knight?

[torn panther]

no and also turns out tenna isnt actually tenna tenna is the roaring knight so gaster is actually tennas electricity flow so technically, papyrus is the goat

[crisp heron]

but... i thougt papyrus is dess

[zenith juniper]

Do TikTok creatures not realize the Heist consisted of 4 40 year old men, the crime is NOT a romance drama sitcom anime labubu Dubai chocolate movie

[crisp heron]

koro sensei vs sherma

[tulip spire]

Idk. I hate to use this term because it’s used by right wing shitheads but TikTok uploaders and commenters exhibit the closest thing I’ve ever seen to irl npc behavior it’s a vortex of mob psychology

[zenith juniper]

We don't talk about "I know damn well the heist was like this" and "my Louvre heist ocs"

[arctic epoch]

#off-topic

[tulip spire]

Let me yell at clouds

[timid plinth]

[crisp heron]

Thomas we're putting you in the whiteward

[ocean bridge]

ocean’s thirteen is now ocean’s seventeen

[light swan]

i keep making videos that make me look like tas

what if i get exposed for being a cheater by fire born

[steep pulsar]

how

[tulip spire]

Nice humble brag

[crisp heron]

dude i remember this happening to me on my first playthrough

[timid plinth]

you hacker

[crisp heron]

i think wehave around the exact same time dorito hair

[steep pulsar]

wow

[light swan]

huh 😭 how did you manage to get exposed on your first playtheoigh (/j)

[steep pulsar]

i only used skin mods 💔

[light swan]

to be fair i’ve been compared to tas like 3 times 💔

[crisp heron]

just played that well the whole speedeunning community accused me lol i was just so good i guess

[primal plank]

DUDE zaza coming to u not knowing what to do abt garamond having to watch u fight him 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹 team cherry just fucking kill me already why dontya

[crisp heron]

im joking bw

[noble jolt]

i NEED white palace hornet skin mod

[light swan]

the beginning of my gms video legit has only 1 mistake in it LOL the rest is perfect

[crisp heron]

do not tell this guy about the sherma quest

this is a lie

[tulip spire]

Call me garmond the way I be lost on that zaza

[ocean bridge]

i’m glad my videos clearly show the pure unbridled aggression of a rabid beast crester

[light swan]

the human descent into savagery

i think silksong is bad for my ego can we get better silksong players please

[ocean bridge]

[light swan]

how come i rarely see anyone else perform animation cancelling outside of grand reed speedkills

[timid plinth]

sherma turns into a silk fly when hornet fails to protect him, we can hear his scream of agony while his soul gets sucked into a pathetic fly of eternal slavery

[light swan]

i’ve only seen 2 other people perform sawtooth tech 💔 (or 3 idk)

[ocean bridge]

grand reed speedkill is so funny to me

like, alright now can you apply the tech

[brittle surge]

the noise it makes intimidates me to a degree I don;t liek.......

[tulip spire]

She’s normal

[ocean bridge]

she spins silk! like you! clearly a fren

[timid plinth]

weavers sound like smokers for some reason

[tulip spire]

Just ignore the corpse she’s sitting on

[light swan]

yea LOL this is what i think too

[brittle surge]

I died like 20 seconds in

[crimson drift]

https://youtube.com/shorts/RoCFJd70jyU?si=DZi2ueBluqWzwUIr

[light swan]

in my case i can somewhat perform the tech im just not really good at sawtooth pogo clawlines yet because there aren’t many bosses that i can do it against the rest is all tech i can relatively do

[rain junco]

People have started trying to bully me so I will be carrying a knife and a rotten tomato at all times to threaten ppl w

[light swan]

oh my god im still so in love with my gms video it’s actually hypnotizing if only i didn’t make it so i don’t look like a massive nerd 💔

[ocean bridge]

tbf what i do with beast is so vastly below in complexity compared to your tech

my stuff is just one half step removed from spamming two buttons

[light swan]

the entire phase 1 just one continuous stream of combos

[light swan]

i guess yea but you have results to show for it all i have is style

no matter how good at the game i am i just cant compare to the type of stuff you do

[ocean bridge]

i think you could frame it as a compilation of sicknasty witch combos

if the intent is not to show the whole flawless fight due to the length

[light swan]

most my fights are all 1 minute with groal at 2 and first sinner at 1:30

i do have a lot of sick clips but like they’re lost amongst my millions of videos

i just wish witch was actually strong because of how high the skill ceiling is

[lyric surge]

An extra blue slot
That's it
It's just bad imo

[silver nacelle]

It can't be that bad.

[light swan]

it’s not bad it just will never be able to compete with like hunter or beast

despite how strong witch theoretically is

[cold veldt]

@light swan is the sawtooth tech easy or difficult to do

[silver nacelle]

Not with that attitude.

[celest bramble]

using architect for flea games is the real deal

[light swan]

difficult, i’ve taught about 3 people how to do it and they’ve all struggled a lot

[cold veldt]

is i tlike frame perfect stuff or

[light swan]

not with any attitude 😔

[light swan]

well not really you can take as slow as you want it’s just that the slower you are the worse you are

[cold veldt]

ok

[light swan]

doing it on its own isn’t that bad yiu just need to pogo 2 frames after double jumping

it’s being able to do it consistently in fights without panicking or messing up which is the difficult part

[silver nacelle]

NOOOOO! Witch is such a cool crest. I don't want it to be 2nd tier.

[arctic epoch]

You should find to eliminate down dash from the equations

[light swan]

wdym eliminate down dash

[arctic epoch]

As in, pogo chaining. And then you can just do constant pogo

[brittle surge]

I'm being ragebaited by a greedy spider I THOUGHT I DEFATED IT

[light swan]

i used to do that with my old videos but down dashing is just so much faster than waiting for myself to fall

it saves time anyway it’s not like it’s worse than infinitely pogoing

infinitely pogoing also only really works if i can infinitely go up which i can’t really do at all

[ocean bridge]

all in all it’s not a bad crest by any means

the skill ceiling is definitely higher than other crests

however that unfortunately doesn’t translate well into killtimes

which is fine, it’s very much a skill expression type of deal

[arctic epoch]

If only you can cancel a backdash into a clawline 😔

[light swan]

yea i agree

i just wish it DID translate into killtime cuz that would be awesome

[pure nebula]

Sometimes I feel humanity was a glitch.

[light swan]

you can, it’s just not different at all from clawlining normally

[silver nacelle]

Maybe one day we'll find some terrifying witch tech. I mean, that's what happened with beast. Ppl used to hate it until they understood how it should be used.

[light swan]

there’s no reason why back dash into clawline would help at all

[arctic epoch]

You don't have to change your direction input

[light swan]

to be fair im the one finding all the witch tech and i dont think im finding anything more terrifying

[light swan]

that doesn’t really matter tho

[silver nacelle]

This is so depressing.

And I'm not even a witch main.

[light swan]

you still can scuttlebrace into clawline it’s just not better than a normal clawline

[arctic epoch]

Well it certainly does lower the skill ceiling for some people

[light swan]

that’s fair i guess

(also skill floor not skill ceiling i dont like when people mix it up)

[jolly falcon]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-fainting-desmaio-mad-crazy-gif-6971696022815179065

[light swan]

:D

[arctic epoch]

If you can clawline cancel scuttlebrace like how you clawline cancel your run attack, id reckon its a solid way to add extra damage

[celest bramble]

cute bug is cute, I didnt see anything else

[zenith lagoon]

i hope ckk is easy because his gauntlets are difficult

[celest bramble]

he is extremely easy especially for act 3

[marsh spoke]

why would you seriously put scuttlebrace on

[light swan]

the thing about dash attack is that im cancelling 2 out of 3 hits, with scuttlebrace clawline im not really saving any time at all that i woudlnt save by just clawlining

[light swan]

@silver nacelle send the video

[arctic epoch]

Id say skill ceiling since having to scuttlebrace into clawline doesnt take away the difficulty of the pogo itself, more of a niche technique you can incorporate into your already precise gameplay

[zenith lagoon]

i just hope it isnt another nyleth situation

[arctic epoch]

Yeah, hence i was disappointed when i cant clawline cancel scuttlebrace 😔

[zenith lagoon]

he has like 1600 hp right

[marsh spoke]

1650

[light swan]

even if you could i still don’t see how it would be useful at all 😭

when would you want to scuttlebrace clawline

[celest bramble]

theres like 3 boss in act3 I didnt said "fuck it cogflies it is"

[light swan]

i guess then it’d raise the skill ceiling not lower it

[zenith lagoon]

if only i had cogflies for nyleth

[arctic epoch]

Sawtooth pogo > backdash (lower your position, negating the pogo height gain ) > clawline > cancel upward momentum into pogo

[zenith lagoon]

i ran out of shards 💔

[arctic epoch]

It takes 2 less key to press, idk

[light swan]

clawline already negates the pogo height so backdssh woudlnt do anything

[arctic epoch]

Does it? >-> does it actually negate it to the point i can repeat it infinitely?

[light swan]

backdashing doesnt even lower you if you cancel out of it lol

[light swan]

no, youre still going up in the time between the clawline and the sawtooth pogo as seen in this video

[tall bramble]

anyone have tips for steel soul 100 percent? wanna knock out the achievement in the same file as 100 percent speedrun

[placid obsidian]

wtf

[celest bramble]

lol my first kill on LL took 5+ hours but then I kill her 3 times within 30 min including the end credit

[light swan]

wait actualky idk

[pure nebula]

I say its less discovering of tech and more people playing the game more to form their opinions instead of just repeating youruber takes.

[light swan]

because witch pogo pulls yoi down which might negate it

[arctic epoch]

So i cant infinitely pogo 😔 sad day

[light swan]

it might be possible dont give up hope im just not good enough to try it yet

[light swan]

not really what we’re talking about lol it’s not really about the opinions of the general masses

[arctic epoch]

That feeling when the staggered fourth chorus recover and i can chain 4 sawtooth pogo in just 1 second

[light swan]

yea me when chaining 6 sawtooth pogos against the grandma :D

[plucky stag]

I did, but it still wasn't enough; I ended up just harpooning her a lot

[zenith lagoon]

TORTURE

[plucky stag]

to the point that I now call using the harpoon as the main source of damage the nyleth strat

[zenith lagoon]

THAT WOULD TAKE SO LONG 💔

[plucky stag]

not as long as my first strat which was just to pogo her and be extremely patient

[arctic epoch]

I wanna play Witch so good i can fight Lost Lace

[plucky stag]

and you wonder why my 100% playthrough was 170 hours

[zenith lagoon]

me

[light swan]

i’m not hopeful about lost lace i feel like she would be the hardest for my strategies

[plucky stag]

I forgot to specify: to pogo her exclusively when she's switching sides

[zenith lagoon]

my playthrough is 110h rn

[zenith lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-looking-down-disappointed-gif-10039657752664545881

not me

[plucky stag]

no wonder I figured out a more efficient way to hit her

[zenith lagoon]

my ahh gonna die to the fireball spam if i was that patient

[plucky stag]

the fight would have probably been 25 minutes, all of which you'd have to survive

[silent mural]

me meanwhile: spammed the hell of tools

[zenith lagoon]

also tom and jerry pfp in the big 25 ❤️‍🩹

[silent mural]

especially silkshot

[arctic epoch]

I mean, you can try to clawline her

[celest bramble]

just use your gun

[light swan]

i can but i eont be able to do as flashy things as i am on other bosses, i’ll find out when i fight her tho

[arctic epoch]

Too bad, Lost Lace literal archetype doesn't allow fast and weak hits 😔 it favors slow and strong one like Beast

[restive ibex]

It does not favour optimal style Beast :(

[plucky stag]

indeed, I've had it for years at this point

[celest bramble]

dont every crest hit for same except architect

[arctic epoch]

I was talking about witch playstyle

[celest bramble]

wander spam is still best for her anyway

[steep wadi]

wander spam is the best in general lmao

[restive ibex]

Wanderer isn't very stylish

[zenith lagoon]

2016 is crazy

[restive ibex]

It's lacks swag

[zenith lagoon]

i joined 2020 but got locked out of my account

[celest bramble]

i jsut dont get how the fast and weak hits thing come from when they all hit for same

[steep wadi]

random crits are very swag wdym
also its free parry simulator

[plucky stag]

Indeed

[zenith lagoon]

i am a wanderer fan i can approve

i parried nyleth once and i felt so good not taking 2 dmg

[steep wadi]

i am the d1 wanderer propaganda spreader

[zenith lagoon]

im gonna send you to the underworld

[restive ibex]

It doesn't have cool movement feature

It's just reliable in straightforward ways

[arctic epoch]

Sawtooth witch playstyle
Beast output way more damage in 1 instance thatn Witch does

[arctic epoch]

Random crits are nun compared to Sawtooth witch 😭

[steep wadi]

the cool movement feature is hornets whole kit
wnaderers is flashy with crits and parries

[arctic epoch]

@light swan roll this person a clip

[steep wadi]

i will say sawtooth witch is incredibly stylish

[celest bramble]

coolest movement is giant charged drill into running att drill into charged pogo

[steep wadi]

he has shown me several, i am very familiar with his game

[restive ibex]

Beast has the zip

[arctic epoch]

-> damn, you must really love wanderer

I mean, subjectively so, because i don't find pressing buttons fast that appealing to play

[restive ibex]

Witch has some zing

[celest bramble]

i cant count how many times beast running att screwed me in flea juggle

[steep wadi]

no witch is definitely more stylish than wanderer, i just think wanderer is definitely not the least stylish crest
i am the d1 wanderers propgandist though

[celest bramble]

i mean wanderer is just spam spam and mroe spam

[steep wadi]

its better than reapers

[celest bramble]

and beast/whitch is too hard for me to pilot effectively

so ima stick with my drill

[restive ibex]

https://fixupx.com/Phelfar/status/1982919982842609902?t=zcp5hBDlrGBOwy1ZGP6-Pg&s=19

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Moorwing boss, beast crest, all upgrades, broken needle.
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I don't want to post it too often, wanderer just lacks cool movement

[arctic epoch]

The least stylish to me is like shaman.. im sorry

[steep wadi]

fair enough, i still think the crits are pretty cool + the higher attack speeds makes parry strings much more common and repeatable

[celest bramble]

why is the diagonal lightning deal so much more damage

[restive ibex]

Shaman might be able to do cool spell.chains

[modern raptor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1367378762920099931/1416686793356742766/image0.gif

[steep wadi]

reapers is less stylish than shaman imo, shaman gets cool sword beam and spells

[restive ibex]

It's 2 instead of 1. The first lightning sets off and the other 2 tip

[median hatch]

finally got here (it was so fucking annoying to reach this bench)

[arctic epoch]

Meh, reaper done what it had to do. And do it so very elegantly to

Shaman feeld dettached from the roster, its dash attack has a weird stop to it. Even its pogo feel very non fluent to me

[celest bramble]

wait, switching angle delay the activation?

[modern raptor]

its over but what does this mean

[timid plinth]

what is this reaper glaze

[restive ibex]

It resets to a minimum value yes

[celest bramble]

it means 7 more years of waiting

[restive ibex]

If it's under that timer value

[steep wadi]

style-wise reapers is just really clunky and slow
shaman deserves style points for spell chains and sword beam

[modern raptor]

i love mount fey aesthetics

[modern raptor]

[median hatch]

act 1 faydown is such a grind 🥹

[celest bramble]

why grind for this out of all things?

[median hatch]

idk i want wisp thicket act 2

[modern raptor]

[steep wadi]

w-why

[median hatch]

um

funny

[unreal sierra]

i didnt even get to lace 2 but i have the urge to try beating lost lace with barbed bracelet

[steep wadi]

clawline-less mount fey sounds like actual torture im sorry

[median hatch]

it is

[modern raptor]

you know about lost lace before reaching lace 2?

[median hatch]

theres sharpdart less mount fay but i am never in my life attempting that

[unreal sierra]

its hard not to

i'll just install a mod to fight her

[steep wadi]

ive seen that
worst part is there's no reason to even do it anymore except if you hate yourself cause they made it so you need needolin to get faydown irrc

[celest bramble]

you must be bed of chaos enjoyer

[vale laurel]

Next game is coming in about 16 years

[modern raptor]

i didnot know about lost lace until i got to act 3

[unreal sierra]

ngl she looks easy

[steep wadi]

man if you couldnt even get to lace 2 lost lace isnt going to be easy

[unreal sierra]

its not like i CANT get to lace 2

[modern raptor]

if you are still fighting lace 2 no she's not gonna be easy for you

[unreal sierra]

trust me I'll kill her i got 50 hrs alot of ppl fought her by now

and getting those melodies is boring

[steep wadi]

how many melodies you got

[unreal sierra]

1

[steep wadi]

which one

[ocean bridge]

consider sawtooth beast

[median hatch]

yeah like why

[modern raptor]

wait you still in act 2 right

get the ||cursed ending||

[unreal sierra]

im not a masochist and i already got witch crest

[median hatch]

it isnt that hard with sharpdart its just reaaally grindy

[unreal sierra]

im using it to beat lost lace rn

[modern raptor]

its easier than lost lace

[vale karma]

What are all the bosses in act 3 again?

[steep wadi]

cause you shouldnt be able to get into act 2 without needolin, the whole point of the two main entrances requiring needolin is to make sure you have it for the threefold melody

[sweet scarab]

ahem
what character from silksong would be a discord g00n3r
other than kratt

[unreal sierra]

if u say so

[median hatch]

no i mean like why even attempt sharpdartless mt fay

[celest bramble]

sawtooth only, go

[modern raptor]

savage beastfly...

[steep wadi]

oh yeah the point originally was to beat act 2 with the least bosses killed but now it doesnt matter

[modern raptor]

good luck with lost lace her 3rd phase not gonna be easy first 2 are easy once you get used

[ocean bridge]

nah

the whole thing about sawtooth is how you can cancel it into attacks

and plus, my goal is to kill a boss as fast as possible, sawtooth only doesn’t get me there

[unreal sierra]

the only problem is she kills me in 2-3 hits

[modern raptor]

wait how many masks do you have

[celest bramble]

wouldnt wanderer + tools always win if you only go for speed kill?

[timid plinth]

crust king khann, nyleth, seth, skarrsinger karmelita, crawfather, watcher at the edge, zango, 4th moss mother, lost lace

[ocean bridge]

i have yet to see a wanderer do it

[steep wadi]

nah max hunters and beast have better dps sadly

[timid plinth]

i probably missed some that i forgor

[vale karma]

Im sorry 4th?

[unreal sierra]

im using a mod which lets you refight bosses that gives a 100% save so all but i use barbed bracelet

[vale karma]

Like fourth Chorus?

[steep wadi]

theres a random ass voided moss mother in mosshome irrc

[modern raptor]

||garmond||

[timid plinth]

there's a voided moss mother in moss grotto

oh yeah garmond

[celest bramble]

void moss mother is not boss, no name drop

[rough junco]

beast crest's attack is quite good but i still dont get how ppl use its pogo in combats

[steep wadi]

moss mother is a boss

[timid plinth]

?

[celest bramble]

bosses have name drop, thats how you know its a boss

[modern raptor]

weird i never mod my games

[steep wadi]

counterpoint, craggler is a boss

[vale karma]

Lost BeastFly

[orchid locust]

genuinely 😭 like if hunter's crest pogo got me finding the hypotenuse during combat the beast creat pogo got me finding the whole ass parabolic projection

[celest bramble]

he is not

[timid plinth]

moss mother did have a name drop tho

[celest bramble]

not the void one, aka the 4th

[sweet scarab]

13th architect

[steep wadi]

the random voided one does not

[unreal sierra]

u should i use quite alot of mods

[steep wadi]

the pure vanilla experience is the best imo

[sweet scarab]

i am stilkin official

[timid plinth]

yeah, but it is obvious that it is unnecessary to name drop her again

[celest bramble]

so did the double moss mother, or lace 2

[steep wadi]

the double moss mothers in atla do

[timid plinth]

oh

[plucky stag]

you've played isat, have you?

[ocean bridge]

you don’t always need to use it in combat

sometimes its better to just attack, or sometimes you use the pogo as a movement option

part of the beast learning curve is understanding when you actually should be pogoing

[steep wadi]

im sure the loop tag ive got makes it obvious

[plucky stag]

I think having played it only a few months prior primed me to the story being broken up by acts

[unreal sierra]

there are alot of smaller mods that dont alter the game that much

also how do i know shes in phase 2

[steep wadi]

i think the game is perfect as is and doesnt need to be altered at all

[plucky stag]

which is why although I wasn't 100% sure at the moment I was surprised when the game ended at act 2 (first ending)

[celest bramble]

who

[unreal sierra]

im talking as in different colours for hornets cloak and stuff

[unreal sierra]

lost lace

[steep wadi]

oh yeah thats cosmetic stuff not worth the effort atp

[celest bramble]

she screams

[unreal sierra]

and those saws pop out the floor?

[steep wadi]

what did you expect it to loop back to the start lmao

[plucky stag]

no, i am strictly referring to the fact that isat and silksong both divide their games up by acts

[mortal bluff]

Got lost in the marrow. How do I get out?

[steep wadi]

yeah, though skong makes it more obvious with the big act title drop at the start of each one, i didnt even notice that isat was split up into acts until i joined the online fandom lol

[plucky stag]

so having played one of them before it primed me when silksong did it too

[sweet scarab]

what

[ocean bridge]

yes

[modern raptor]

what

[modern raptor]

just crystal dash yk

[steep wadi]

howd you get there

[tidal osprey]

Trust me, I deserve it

[mortal bluff]

I’m trying to find my way out of the marrow? Should I take the Deepnest route or the city

[timid plinth]

the ending makes sense now

[mortal bluff]

Traveled through one of the really big weavenest thingys

[steep wadi]

bros replying to a day old comment

[whole moon]

He looks like a karak soldier yall

[modern raptor]

kingdom's edge

[sweet scarab]

yea

[steep wadi]

he does doesnt he

[mortal bluff]

What are you talking about?

[whole moon]

What if he fled from pharloom to hallownest because of gms

[modern raptor]

take kingdom's edge route

[sweet scarab]

she edge on my kingdom till i sentinel hornet

[desert tapir]

W name tbh

[whole moon]

Thanks

[desert tapir]

anytime

[timid plinth]

chat died, how crazy

[steep wadi]

anyways time for lazy crest discourse tell me your least favorite crest and why

[sweet scarab]

i didint know on the 3rd one

[timid plinth]

reaper

[steep wadi]

that character looks familiar

[timid plinth]

cos it is clunky

im sure a lot of people have said the same thing

[timid acorn]

oh no they made eleum loyce a person

[celest bramble]

reaper is good for pogo and flea bounce, it has its uses

[timid plinth]

i just view that as a coping mechanism

[steep wadi]

i beat seths flea bounce score before he even moved to fleatopia with wanderers, reaper pogo is cope and not even that good cause its laggy as hell

[celest bramble]

no, even if it reduce your fail chance from 5% to 1% it is still better

[marsh spoke]

the pogo is quite literally one of the best moves in the game

[celest bramble]

you cant really miss with reaper pogo

[orchid locust]

thoughts on the new silksong UI?

[marsh spoke]

i get not liking the crest but the pogo is genuinely really good

[sweet scarab]

ea?

[celest bramble]

it allow you to vertically climb spikes easily too

[unreal sierra]

silksong if ubisoft made it

[timid plinth]

yeah cos thats what its only got

[celest bramble]

it is also good early game when you get a bunch of free heals

[steep wadi]

the pogo is very much outshined by the rest of the kit and wanderers pogo is almost as good on a much better crest

[timid plinth]

a slow pogo will definitely feel better

[orchid locust]

i find hunter's easier for vertical climbing cs i can just pogo diagonally into the spikes

[steep wadi]

reapers silk gen is actually worse than other crests even with the gimmick, its just too slow

[celest bramble]

not when you are still getting use to the game, you dont know how many hits you can squueese out from a punish

[torn panther]

GUYS I MISTAKENLY FOUGHT SISTER SPLINTER AND IM 3 MASKS

[orchid locust]

sister splinter easy as hell

[torn panther]

oh thank god

unnerfed sister splinter is still es right?

[steep wadi]

fair, i feel like that makes it a bit of a noob trap though since it acts like a crutch for players to avoid actually learning the mechanics and hornets playstyle for longer, which can come back and bite them in the ass later

[torn panther]

yeah i died i need to go all the way back

[ocean bridge]

pretty much boils down to that

[celest bramble]

i did hunter > reaper > architect reaper is like most of act 2

but drill better

[undone gate]

Yea the nerf isin't that big

[silver topaz]

LESGO I FINALLY BEAT LOST LAYS

[steep wadi]

tbf i did 112 HK and beat p5 before played skong so i had some experience with spacing and getting as many hits from a punish as possible, so when i found reaper i immediately hated it because it was so slow

[whole moon]

I love how ubisoft has become infamous for their bad ui designs

[steep wadi]

GG

[crisp heron]

oh boy lost grandomther silk is gonna fick you up especially since if you die you gotta do lostlace again

[celest bramble]

it also helps with a lot of early enemies with the super knockback

[steep wadi]

the misinformation is crazy

[crisp heron]

no no its totally true

[rocky helm]

How many times do you have to fight lace?

[steep wadi]

heavy blow....
that was one of the most hated charms in hk for a reason

[silver topaz]

What are u talking abt

[crisp heron]

2 to 3 deoending on if you skip the first fight

[sweet scarab]

did you know?

[steep wadi]

3

[celest bramble]

again, it helps early game to get use to the game, you can keep them far enough with knockback

[rocky helm]

I see

[primal jasper]

what's the point in using multi-binder when most bosses deal 2 hearts of damage? 10/10 Hearts vs 9/10 Hearts, I still die in 5 hits

[primal jasper]

Even if I use multibinder, I die in 5 hits

[silver topaz]

Thats a lot

[celest bramble]

4 heals is still more then 3 heals

[primal jasper]

without it, I die in 5 hits

[rocky helm]

Grub

[primal jasper]

You're not understanding the question

[celest bramble]

you dont always end fights with 1 heal

[night fog]

do we have good skins for silk song yet?

[silver topaz]

Is that an accordion?

Fyi 6 hours on lost lays guys

[timid plinth]

you heal one mask more, also you should avoid getting hit

[primal jasper]

Even without it, I die in 5 hits

[rocky helm]

I think so

[primal jasper]

I didn't ask what does multi-binder does

[timid plinth]

but thats the point of multi binder

[rocky helm]

wait, we have skins like hk

[silver topaz]

9% of my run’s time was spent on lost lays

[primal jasper]

But it makes no sense

[steep wadi]

multibinder heals 2 hits of damage
regular bind heals one hit of damage on odd numbered health, two on even numbered health
its +0.5 hits every heal compared to regular bind
and it partitions your heal into two parts meaning getting inturrupted is less punishing

[untold dune]

well with the 3 mask heal theres an offset where every 2nd heal will only heal 1 double health point, but multibinder gets rid of that

[rocky helm]

Cool

[primal jasper]

It makes sense when you have an odd amount of health

Because an odd amount of health determines if you die in 5 or 6 hits (if using fractured mask 11 hearts)

[celest bramble]

it makes all the sense because some enemies still only do 1 mask, especially spikes and stuff, and most fights end with more then 1 heal, you still get more heal out of the same silk

[silver topaz]

OMG HORNET X LACE IS CANON?

[untold dune]

also its op in bilewater now because you get rid of maggots and still get 2 health

[celest bramble]

only true if you end every fight with 1 heal or less

[hardy tangle]

notice how hornets nail is bigger and girthier

[primal jasper]

what about with ||Lost Lace||

[timid plinth]

what about it

[primal jasper]

she does 2 hearts all the time

[unreal sierra]

um

[celest bramble]

you still take more hits then not having it, you get 12 masks with 3 heals instead of 9

[timid plinth]

im too dumb to understand

[hardy tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/beetlejuice-nothing-just-hanging-around-gif-2094850430212155192

[primal jasper]

You can't get 12 masks

[silver topaz]

Rlly weird cuz you’d expect the final boss to do more