#sk-discussion
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how do i get to bilewater?
sinners road theres a place near the right (dont really remember where)
moss grotto, you need the music needle ability
what’s the argument
Whispering Vaults or The Sinner’s Road
lace was made to be drop kickable, this is her true form, you can drop kick her into orbit now.
hornet when she takes 2 hearts of damage when bumping shoulders into someone, but someone whacking u with a giant fucking stick also deals 2 hearts of damage
you don't want to bud
there should be an upper opening that u can cling onto
You must be playing abhorrently wrong for her to be offscreen in an arena thats just 1 screen wide
people hating i installed a mod that makes contact do 1 mask instead of 2
Oh gee, if only there was some sort of...manouver...that would prevent me from getting hit...maybe if i move out of the way i could not get hit...
die and go to hell and it’s basically the same
Objectively there is no way you can place ts above mid tier with bosses like Karmelita, TLJ, Lost Lace, First sinner, Cogwork etc being in the game
We need a extended version of Cogwork Core and High Halls
*10th circle of hell
now make one with Shakra and Hornet
High Halls should’ve been a huge ass palace, as big as White Palace
Lace can be a child or not or whatever but Lace III was a massive disappointment and that's a fact
i just want to get the map and then ima leave
I dont think that matters then
- multiple valuable items in bilewater
- multiple items required to access other things
- literally required for TE
I wouldve loved cogwork more if it was higher tbh
why the fuck are there so many laces bro
Because Lace is peak
mitosis
false
It’s 3 fights bro
no a fact is objective that is very much subjective
Shoe lace vs lost lace
Lace is my fav character but NOT my pick for a final boss
meiosis
thats one every 20 hours
This situation is literally the "she looks like a child, is a child in the biological sense (probably), but is actually 5 million years old"
mfs when someone plays a single player indie game with a mod 🤬🤬 (they didn’t play the same way you did therefore you’re wrong)
can someone give me bilewater join tutorial
daMN IT i always get them mixed up ughh
Who here is going into a fight hoping to fight Lace again, again
He gets it 🙏
She does NOT look like a child
i hate bell eater, i cant go close to the walls, i get trapped inbetween i give up 😭
mitosis is splitting into 2
meiosis is 4
but theres 3 so 4 is closer heh heh..
(were both wrong)
I’m a Khann glazer I think he doesn’t get enough love bc of that ant karmelita
exactly. Fourth Chorus gave me more final boss vibes than lace lol
GARMOND NOOO
yeah…yeah you only need the map then u can go….
Much better
Real, why no lost grandmother skib 💔
you've been trying for like 5 minutes?
God damn right
no it's cuz he's insanely boring and underbaked
STOP WHY DOES THIS WORK
Do wanderer users struggle at ||lost lace||? she disappears and moves all the time so you cant really spam attack most of the time
ok i dont care if you get mods that make the game easier but i just think complaining about contact damage because you keep walking into the boss is stupid
nah, like 30
when can i kill sherma
IT MAKES SENSE
Lace is like those people from anime who look like children but are appearently an ancient higher being that is sent by the devil 56 million years ago
whzeres the entry?
That and he's just easy imo, had a much harder time with the gauntlet than him
Doesn't matter I wouldn't wish my worst enemy to end up in Bileewater.
Bro what
pinstress is russian real
bilewater is a fun area
His animations man
Pinstress being a fucking gremlin is awesome
hardest boss in the game is cogwork dancers chanhe mt mind
Piss easy boss
it's a stupid tedious fight but predictable, if you know the spawns will trap you against a wall, clawline over them
He's pretty fun! I think the issue is that a lot of people don't find him that difficult and equate difficulty to fun, I think he's fun, just not as hard as the others!
I think Khann is amazing but people without braincells judge him based purely on his fight, and not that he's "boring" purely because of his real challenge being the gauntlets. He's the endcap.
he only has variations of one attack and it's extremely easy and unengaging to dodge
bro who struggles with bell eater and why are you getting close to the walls
that's what is supposed to happen
Bro has played 5% of the game
ive been stuck for like 19 hours now
I still think maybe in a godlike dlc he could be buffed or smth
Khann had the right ingredients they just made him too easy and added a enemy gauntlet right before him to add tension
oh buddy
too fazy
lore wise he would crush most of pharloom
I did! The main thing was that I had to learn how to parry the eggs
he just doesnt do enough
But cool crust coral goes brr
thats his prime version btw
fast theu should nerf them
issues with khan
- bigass gauntlet with some of the worst flying enemies
- is made like an act 1 boss
mf telegraphs his attacks like he some sort of anime character
wait till you see what's at the right side of craw lake in act 3
Stop lying to yourself
“Bigass Gauntlet” it has a checkpoint bro
They literally tell u what they’re gonna do
King khan duo fight
let me guess, groals behind you?
Are you fr
Ok man listen I hesdcanon bc he spawns in 10001020101010 enemies to jump u he is rlly weak when u fight him he’s buns
I got hit more by contact from him jumping around than the actual attacks
...where?
i deleted groal
clover dancers are easier tho
Ts gotta be ragebait
wait until you find out about cogwork dancers
Yes theyre too fast and unpredictable
but he's ass? if the fight doesn't stand on its own then what's the point?
Honestly he felt like a breath of fresh air
That huge red traffic cone, you can break it to achieve an checkpoint
No theyre legit the fastest boss so far theyre literally unavoidable
If you beat the gauntlet you can break this spike that'll break a bunch of floors on the left and you can just climb past it all easily
If he’s being fr it’s even worse cuz he said he has a 1 mask dmg mod
a checkpoint*
THEY SHOW U WHERE THEY ATTACK
khann's gauntlet took me 10 minutes
khann himself took me 40s
they're just a harder version of cogwork you just got better by the time you reached them
Maybe for the emotional damage, but that was more like the easiest boss in the game ngl aside from moss mothers
guess what smartass
thats being generous
who
i got everything for that one quest 🥳
It's a challenge unlike other boss fights that sits at the end of gauntlets and has you do less fighting then the previous rooms had you do
"unpredictable"???
Brother in Christ they quite literally show you where they will attack, how much easier can it get?
That's like saying false knight is a shit fight because he's easy
No, he's a good fight, he's fun, same with khann, they're just easy
shakraaa, save meee
be prepared, act 3 will (probably) kick your ass
Ok I’m a Khann fan and ima be real his fight is easier than walking outside and breathing bro how could u possibly struggle on him
no the deciding factor is that by clover you have much higher damage relative to their hp
I feel like you guys are falling for rage bait
oxy is a master baiter bro this mf ragebaited the entire channel, I didnt think it was this easy
Wohoo 100%
When people want a boss fight to be harder it’s fine but when people want a boss fight to be easier, it’s why go against the developers vision
Stop spreading false info, khann is easier then walking outside and breathing
I love master baiting in the hk server bro
My problem is with the gauntlet,not the boss itself. Kinda like Groal,except i hate the bilehaven gauntlet AND bilewater
Clearly is, just say u struggle on an easy boss and they'll instantly take the bait
You dont have to say exactly whats going to happen next
I didn't really get hit in it regardless so for me at least it was just better skill
Entire silksong server falling for most obvious bait
false knight is early game and has more than 1 move
khann does literally nothing and is literally just an hp sponge
is this the only thing i need for act 3 or do i need anything else
Woe, unprompted tier list be upon ye.
🤨
And all you have to do is hide in the bottom left nook or cling to the left wall, you dont even have to do shit in the cogwork dancers boss fight 😭
Its so fun master baiting with these folks that get master baited by me
Ok maybe going outside is the problem
well, i think it's both
Khann should’ve just spammed way more coral, one spike at a time is nothing
just wanted to give a heads up
Possibly
Yeah but its hard for silksong players to go outside
move voltvyrm to s+ and it'll be valid
who invited signis and the other guy brothers
anyways silksong makes me fucking hate a boss then theyre my favorite after i finally understand it was peak
that you?
You know what he should’ve done is wait for u to get to the top then spam enemies and kill u in one inctosecond
Grey backgrounds 
I wish
this wasnt the case for hollow knight
no bad list
Me! They're an excellent fight
every hollow knight boss i hated i still hatr and think theyre ass
The premise is the same LOL
Just because he's easy doesn't mean his fight sucks, cogwork dancers are easy and basically have two attacks, which is "go in this direction" and "dance together"
His fight isn't bad at all imo, it's fun, just easier than say nyleth
The Messmer effect
Some people find it difficult to do the first part 
Groal The Great is a fun boss, tbh
Idk why yall hate green prince fight i thought it was good
Super underrated
This is just ragebait
unravelled 2 tiers too high
more hp then pure vessel btw
Pretty valid take as someone who 112% the game 😭🙏
0/10 ragebait
the only fight that you put above B tier with ads btw
Bro he is tanky but u can bombrush him
i fucking hated widow now shes my favorite boss
i hated the fucking failed vessel that gives u monarch and i still hate it
lmao groal
on second look its decent
this, including the fuckass rolling knights
Widow ass twin idk what to tell you
Even if khann had a billion hp it wouldnt matter cuz he cannot hit the player
sir i still like some bosses most are fucking dogshit
cogwork dancers have good design but I still agree the fight is laughably easy
khann has mid design and his fight is shit too so that makes him worse
It's because the adds are predictable and fair
i hate 90% of hk bosses despite beating them first or second try
Don't compare health values in the two games, especially with damage modifiers being a thing
Hollow knight fight is peak but others I can let slide
at least c tier (most generous rating i can give)
Ur on ragebait cooldown wait like 20 mins so chat forgets
broken vessel is fuckimg ass
Oh and vengefly and flying nosk is peak
woooooe, enjoyment tierlist go
Yeah they're either 10/10 or 2/10
Cogwork Dancers are overrated
They're good, yes, but not like s tier good
top 6 bosses with most HP (Hk/skong, nail values are same and spells and silk skills can be compared in damage)
1: Absolute Radiance (2181)
2: Lost Lace (1800)
3: The Radiance (1700)
4: Crust King Khann (1650)
5: Pure Vessel (1600)
6: Nightmare King Grimm (1500) and Karmelita (1500)
If only Khann just made the whole arena coral and instakilled u and I had to do every gauntlet over bc he uses coral to block the shortcut
"It's hard to defeat GMS with the twisted bud"
Humble Clawline:
IMO great boss design but there’s better bosses, maybe S tier off of creativity alone tho
what in the actual fuck 😭
Erhm I disagree 
they dont even do enough im pretty sure signis only has 2 moves and the other guy has 3
i thought karm was on top
isnt she 1300 hp
For a total of 5! Which is more than a lot of other fights!
Average indie game code
Is khan or seth easier
Khann not even close
hk broken vessel is like below 0 bro this shit is like subzero level
200% khan
Isn’t 6th a tie
oh nah shes same as NKG
Seth is way harder
you aint seen shit
i fucking hate broken vessel its so lazy and shit
Absolute radiance at 1 is crazy
It’s jus mid
Yeah its a tie
whats the woke moss evolved 😭
I managed seth's first phase without any tools but he disrupted my flow and got me in his second phase
yeah lets uuh.. give this boss a tiny fuckass arena..
make his.. uuh..moves ass and boring..
and yeah uuh.. make this entire bossfight fucking boring
My boss tier list, considers fight design, how fun they are, character design, and a bit of bias 
Okey, jokes aside. I'm going to Cursed child ending and the fight is shockingly easy with the help of clawline to dish in some damage. 🐢
the boss fight itsself is kinda mid but anything else its goated
FUCK broken vessel
bene frenke
Lost Lace feels like 5000 HP boss and is longer than AbsRad despite having less hp cus one is free to hit and the other one isnt
Ok but I just love when I’m fighting karmelita and she blockes all my attacks and then does the beast crest pogo 3.0 on me
broken vessel is the small one
BELL BEASTTTTT
why is unravelled all the way up there 😭 surely the atmosphere can't make up that much for the fight
I did Seth with 5 masks, no spools, no tools, and shining needle and I can say he becomes extremely fun and easy when you know his patterns
thats why Krust King Khann went on for like 6 minutes for me
If you insist
we love broken vessel and lost kin here
Unraveled is awesome
I suppose is it all up to opinion, but I do think his design is cool, imo nyleth felt like a great value cuphead boss LOL, so I didn't like her much and the clover dancers aren't challenging whatsoever so
I think his design and theme are really cool, I wouldn't say he's ass however, the only boss I expressly don't like in all of the games would be like brooding mawlek, beast/god tamer (wtv their name is), and that one fuckass boss in whiteward
The godhome is gonna be nuts.. abs lost lace might cause bombings
for me lost lace is one of the most fun bosses, but dragged down to being one of the worst due to a single fucking thing about her
watcher knights are more fun than broken vessel bro fuckass boss
what's life in the whiteward like
And also can we do some sacrificial ritual so that mossbag drops a video?
Seamstress boss fight will be peak
what is it
i enjoyed watchers more than broken
don't agree with all of that but that's a pretty nice list
make sure to complete your flea games before act 4 otherwise THIS HAPPENS
mask.
contact.
damage.
Diabolical take
i dont agree with the lost lace slander ngl i thought it was almost perfect
OH FUKS NAWWWE
Bro every boss has it like
Act 4? I'm not even in act 0.00001
bro im just sad he was screaming at the end of every gauntlet hyping me up and he's just a sponge
Lace
She’s the size of an anorexic house cat tho
lost seth is chill tho
the only bosses without contact damage is Fourth Chorus
SILKPOST in big 25 💔💔💔💔
ngl
mf fell for it
I appreciate the other parts of the boss fight, like I loved his theme song and the fight was pretty cool (tbf I was listening to hype music as well so)
not really, thin ones like seth karmalita don't
and on lost lace in particular its fucking obnoxious due to how fast she is and how lots of her moves send her flying at you
GMS? Unless you include the shears
My 2 main grips with it are
- Lace for the 3rd time
- Phase 2 has a bajillion things going on with both the boss and the foreground and it’s ridiculously hard to tell what’s happening
a silksong basic enemy could be the final boss of hk with more hp
she moves as fast as a cat as well, hence why its actually an issue
ANY fucking big citadel enemy is harder than any hk boss
like
if they kept her 1 contact damage she would have been absolute peak
both complaints I disagree with completely
Ok but lost Seth is gonna have a 1010101010101000011111 in flea dodge
gms?
a basic silksong enemy has a bigger moveset than most hk bosses
GMS?
im biased with lace, she should get a fourth fight 
Have you done Abs rad?
The way my eye was twitching because I just barely beat juggle..
Who were the guys we could save? Pilby and nothing more??
If anything there wasnt that much going on in the lost lace fight
no i speedran hk on my first playthrough
Lace 2 was so gad damn easy it took me like 8 tries.
but dodging her fatass attack only to accidentally bump into her and take the same amount of damage as trhat attack is horrible
Technically Mort
i ended at 9 hours 55% completion
i dont like act 3 so far
WHAT DO YOU MEAN FAYDOWN CLOAK IS OPTIONAL
You can save him????
imo just fighting stuff that gets abyss-ified already gives you 80% of the attack pattern
that's like the worst experience you can ever have
My biggest issue is that she spams so many projectiles she fucking blends in and smites me lol
If you count saving him from the Rhino, yeah
You can? Damn
he dies later anyways
"god.. i love collecting charms"
yeah you only need clawline for the one in cogwork core
Yeah all her attacks are the same color and she overlaps them
Iirc his body only shows up if you don’t buy his stock as well
I did warn you you were in for a fucking treat if you had barely started and you thought it escalated 😭 just remember nkg theme song when you do the flea games
i ended the game at 6 masks lvl 1 nail and zero crest upgrades
so if you buy the belt his body wont be there?
where is shakra in bilewater?
But she only does one attack. Im assuming you mean the tendrils that come from the ground but those give lots of time in advance
@iron viper play the game instead lol
Phase 1 is pretty much perfect but phase 2 just feels like “RANDOM BULLSHIT GO”
why do i think the knight has smth to do with this scary shit
ok i fixed
top 7 bosses with most HP (Hk/skong, nail values are same and spells and silk skills can be compared in damage)
1: Sisters of Battle (2750)
2: Absolute Radiance (2181)
3: Lost Lace (1800)
4: The Radiance (1700)
5: Crust King Khann (1650)
6: Pure Vessel and White Defender (1600)
7: Nightmare King Grimm (1500) and Karmelita (1500)
It’s not in that spot, yeah. If it appears somewhere else, I’m not aware of it
is this adjusted for silksong damage multipliers
White defender
I forgot Sister of battle counts
no way sister of battle has that much hp. They pusovers
i thought hk bosses would have way more health
also what about watcher knights
oh fuck yeahh i totally forgot
In that case you’ve gotta add Watcher Knights
Sisters of battle otw to solo all of pharloom
If you mean lace she kinda does because she "saved" hornet
Yeah I might
Zote too
nah i mean the ghost, from hk
Tbf we don’t have buffed skong bosses yet so it will be even more of a blowout for skong boss hp
Watcher Knights is 1560 HP with all nail upgrades
Have you beaten the game yet?
Atleast pantheons of Silksong wont have repeat dream bosses.
how tf would knight mean lace 😭
There will be 3 laces in p5 tho 😭🙏
nope, just this void thingy reminds me of the knight from hk,i mean the act is called the abyss
No?
Moss mother Trio
Leave before spoilers assault your mind
How
Did you guys forget Pantheon of Hallownest didn’t feature The Hollow Knight or The Radiance? they included Abs Rad but thats a different thing
oh well
maybe but thats better than doubling like 8 bosses
you guys arent ready for radiant lost lace
Did we beat p5?😭
I did like 100 times alrdy
You don’t fight Radiance
It’s buffed vers of them
We can’t get a more buffed version of Lace
Hornet was in p5 multiple times so it's reasonable to assume that all the lace fights would be there as well
It has to be a buffed Grand Mother Silk, her version before being put to sleep
You fight Absolute Radiance instead, which means Lost Lace as it is right now might not be a final pantheon boss
what is the fastest way to get to bellhart from grand bellway? (I dont have the bellhart bellway unlocked)
Lace is a final boss, Hornet is not a final boss. 2 lace fights yes but the final fuck no
The difference is - they are buffed versions of the bosses. There is not multiples outside of godhome.
I want absolute GMS bc she was a nothing fight challenge-wise
Could be another stronger lost lace version, could be evil GMS, could be Ass Jim Supreme
Do you guys think there’s a reason they’d include the true ending boss fight in the pantheon smh
Bro what, we fight both hollow knight and radiance just buffed
Lace got already buffed to oblivion with 3 fights, it has to be GMS at prime
To pull another Tiso?
similar to elden ring and silksong i think i know what im getting next
although srsly 20$ for 90 hours of enjoyment and no FREE dlcs have released at all yet this is actually insane
“just buffed” okay bud
“Weaver god silk” or smth like that
Or maybe a Sisters of Battle, or something
Sekiro is peak asf
The only issue I have with a possible pantheon thing is what ending would it be? I feel like hornet ascending to godhood doesn't really work because she already does that in one of the endings, and yeah it'd be hella cool to fight the shit(shade)lord but we already have a void final boss of the game so
what is the fastest way to get to bellhart from grand bellway? (I dont have the bellhart bellway unlocked)
Doesnt hk p5 have hornet 1 and 2 i dont see how thats exactly a point
does p5 have The Radiance?
They didn’t exclude a boss, they just buffed them
do cursed child and say that again
actually well it wasnt that bad but still hard
I would love a harder phantom
The white knight achievement is from lace 1 and sometimes shes also occasionally referred to as that
They’re very different fights
Exactly, it was a major buff.
the 2 lace fights would be included, the third wouldnt
No but thats a false equivolence.
Redesign would be a better word for it
is p5 needed for 112%?
Why?
Sure, but they weren’t excluded.
Makes no sense
No
Well it’s from either 1 or 2 lace fights
p4?
you should move to #hk-discussion maybe
Yes
No
mb, saw people talking about the knight and remembered this
P1-4 does but not the fifth
btw how difficult would yall say sekiro is compared to skong
I havent played sekiro
never played Sekiro sadly
smth funny is, when silksong came out the main news thingy for my country, made an article about how silksong was so hard it was close to self torture
It’s needed for plat tho
Except that they were. Meaning that we shouldn’t expect Lost Lace or Grand Mother Silk as the final boss of a pantheon, instead we should except an entirely new fight with Lace or GMS that is far from identical to the fights we have now
Skill issue
casual flex
People who say the pogo is too difficult just refuse to learn the game
im just realizing you singled me out of a bunch of people talking about p5 😭
i only saw you
P5 difficulty is overrated, if I wanted to flex I would have showed that i did it all binds🥶
is that some kind of confession
lets hope it doesnt get worse than this
i cant even make it past p2 in p5
We're talking about a possible pharloom pantheon and comparing it to p5 
It's still skong related
Use sharp shadow
maybe ill be able to beat it after i finish silksong
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The high halls in the background is so fitting
to that i say
path of pain is nothing compared to this 😭
but- but- mt fay silkshot with pollip pouch
how long did it take?
fatass ate every last piece of good cuisine and makes everyone else eat maggots
Yeah.. exactly - lost lace/GMS or both would be redesigned to be more difficult. The other lace fights would still remain in pantheon.
you can
im too bad at the game rn i think
The way to learn pantheon of hallownest is the ability to do almost every boss ascended
waiting for lost gms
with time!
You can just gamble your way in Markoth and GPZ but other than that do them all ascended
id rather play silksong than grind p5
i've seen this posted countless times😭
i still have act 3 ahead of me
The entire 112% + p5 (with binds) was 57h but I afk’d a lot, wandered aimlessly a lot, did non requirements like POP etc
Silksong is a better experience for sure, but P5 Feeling of Accomplishment is surreal
Ohhhh 
The issue I see with lost lace in pharloom p5 isn't that three lace fights would be bs, but that it would be a weird situation, like lace 2, gms, then lost lace then magical final boss? Or would it be lace 2 then lost lace then buffed gms? Even though gms isn't the final boss
Another thing is as I said, a pharloom p5 ending would be weird, as fighting the shade lord at the top of the pantheon (it is still godhome after all, godseekers still see shitlord as the god of gods, and if we're including pantheons I feel like it'd make embrace the void cannon)
So
i see
still peak tho, watched it like 10 times
it took me 70 hours with quite a bit of guidance on progression
past the hollow knight
I didn’t react too much when i won pantheon five with all bindings for some reason because I accidentally did absolute radiance without locking in so i was too non chalant
initial lace>gms>lost lace
we dont need three laces (i agree with you)
How many attempts did all pantheons all binds take u tho, i did them all at once as opposed to individually so that could effect time aswell.
Me after spending my first 30 hours of the game completely lost in the fungal wastes and greenpath and crossroads not even having the dreamers on my map
i havent even attempted bindings
Shi pain twin 🙏
I did the same dw 😭🙏
bro majority of my time was spent confused about how to get to queens gardens and fog canyon
Buffed Lace is a shitass bet for a PoPharloom, Bet on Grand Mother Silk but ascended to a strength of an actual higher being
Queens garden was truly a confusing one, for some reason everything lead back to going there 🥀
The Godseekers came to my home talking about sum “greater knowledge” who are these guys bruh
I was just kind floating around Hallownest till I found the dreamers ~110 hrs in
hell, it took me 99hrs to get to CITY OF TEARS😭
Bro got lost in the game
took the time to smell the flowers
Wild
99 hours to enter City of Tears is unusual, did you rank all the grass before entering the city
HK was just a cycle of playing and looking stuff up for me
Jesus Christ 😭🙏
i have a glow in the dark hornet limited edition yall
I have like 1.9K hours in HK my longest save file is 278 hours
4 and a half days in the prologue 💀
70 hours with longest save being 70 hours :D
Also path of pain was SO much shorter then I expected I was lowk sad but peak area
do Steel Soul 😄
erm
i think its a combo of multiple deaths and me prowling every corner of the map
oh and the mantis people ligit hard stuck me cuz I didnt know where to go or what to get for a bit
I BET YOU MISSED THIS AREA
after skong
What could you possibly be doing twin
agbag baga bga abag agb abg.
Isn't that the shaman crest area
what, the Shaman crest area?
waiiit WHAT IS THAT
months bro
jobs bro jobs
ooooh ok
hanged people
Hear me out on the statue
Beat widow to save em
Sit on the bench and rejoin the game
do you have to spoil a boss
get lugoli’d
I’ve done this 5 times and it hasn’t happened to me 😭💔
oh no they know a name
yes
I did it and i experienced it blindly it creeped tf out of me
Mongolian throat of doom
so serene
the entire game is spoiled rotten now
Wait it doesn't automatically cover spoilers 😞
I still dk what it looks like I feel like I’m missing out
Leave the channel that allows spoilers maybe
youre allowed to say spoilers in this chat anyways
Silksong haunted bellhart bench and act 3 beginning is proof that Silksong is analog horror disguised as a metroidvania
NO SHERMA WHY WHYYYY
i avoided spoilers like the plague 😭 got the ||deaths|| spoiled by some random guy on yt shorts
just do the quest twin
||hes fine dont worry||
well i mean id still avoid spoilers if im directly talking to someone, even in this chat
besides, theyre obviously exaggerating for a joke
barnacle bay but if i made it
Yeah I avoided everything til I beat it
i kept getting spoiled on GMS on my fyp with 0 warning whatsoever
Real
sherma dies here btw
you get jumped by a horde that kills sherma in the process
yes its just courtesy, games only been out for a month
i spent too much time trying to 112% hk before doing silksong i suppose
Go doomslayer on wideward
I wont let them touch my sherma
somehow spoiled myself by walking behind someone that JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE PLAYING SILKSONG
what even are the chances
yeah true
but that being said, I wouldnt bother censoring things if im not directly talking to someone who hasnt experienced it
I would eat Grubs and Fleas for breakfast. Tasty creatures
i got slightly spoiled by seeing my brother playing the game
Just saying how many hits does it take to kill sister splinter?
I spent the longest amount of time on:
Karmelita
Last judge
Lost lace
Seth
Widow
we know its you lugoli
bro is still here 😭
fleas are a silksong thing
Last judge > Lost lace is crazy
Green prince let's you skip a boss??
no Moorwing or Trobbio?
I think I genuinely spent about the same amount of time on lost lace and Seth tbh, I have no clue why I struggled so hard with Seth
mine:
coral tower
LL
didnt count the others ig
for me Karmelkta took 2 tries, Lost Lace took like 6-8, Last Judge took 17 attempts
wait what
cos ur bad at game
seth punishes aggression
i love it
Groal The Great took 3 attempts btw
you can sub in the green princes heart for any of the others
if you do go on and kill that boss after donating the hearts, you can hang that boss' heart in your home
thats why
the runback to forebrothers is hardet than the actual boss 😭
@velvet marlin listen lad i got to phase 2 but the splinterbarks bombarded me with their slash attack
That's rude
Surprising fr, I thought Seth was free and lost lace was acc able to diddle me for the first few attempts
use silk skills
Beating green prince you can use his heart instead of one of the others
not to insult u or sum but um its not long?
tf, the runback is literally nothing?
why did lace lost
SHE TURNED INTO AN INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE
I have but I keep missing i have bad timing
in act 3, you need to get 3 hearts from people to enter your memory
you can sub in the green prince for one of these hearts
Personally I don’t spend too much time on non-bullshit encounters like first sinner or karmelita but I would sit for 2+ hours on broodmother and other shitfests like her
also, ‘listen lad 🤓 ☝️’
.
There's a breakable wall that makes it so you don't have to go through the entire area to reach them
go do something else and come back you it, youll get her eventually
“Listen lad” is fucking crazy opener
lore accurante lace
ohhhh
if i didn't buy the weighted belt in act 2 can i not 100% now?
WHERES THIS MF GONE
Shellwood
"we're blasting off again!" Ahh lace
sherma noo 😭
shellwood roasry grave
holy shit
did I witness someone descovering a glitch
I've never seen this
WRITE THIS DOWN WRITE THIS DOWN
he about to stab himself
and ofc its behind a gauntlet
trust me she will survive this. she just.... need some time
hes boutta die
STOP
HE CRYING
he wont bruh
All of a sudden she realised she can escape just like that
a mobs gonna come in and kill him while going for you
you technically killed sherma
I had a glitch with Seth where he was stuck behind a rock in the top left corner and I was able to hit him, but when he got to phase 2 I knocked him too far back and he was unreachable
lace got lost
Pants on fire
Guys I figured out this new strat and I used it to finally get past phase one of the Lost Lace fight. This strategy uses the Shaman crest and weavelight charm. So how it works is that you can run away from the boss the whole fight and use Pale Nails on cooldown to do damage without having to get close to the boss
pants of piss
id never tell a lie
yeah, popular strat alr
Good god ||Coral Tower|| gauntlet is brutal, and i thought ||High Halls|| arena was tough
why does tormented trobbio say santa
LITERALLY
this is probably because I can consistently do ascended radiance gms but I killed her in like 2..3 tries and lace 2 in like 6 at most
But I spent like a day or two just struggling on Seth and last judge
is shaman crest available pre act 3
honestly 😭 but its mad fun
did you find the skip?
Bloody hell
LL might be molesting me but at least the OST is peak🥹
SHERMA THANK YOUU FOR SURVIVNG
no
What skip?
What.
):
youll find his body in songclave
u have Xbox 1 or s or x
My message seems pretty straight forward
Everyone lying to me telling me Sherma died
Sherma explodes in act 5 I'm sorry. /J
||after the thirst floor||
Is that silk spear storage?
im jumping off
Sherma in songclaive after gms got dragged into the void:
Rip sherma
he aint dying bruh I finished the game trust me
he does that right after fym
you hit the pointy thing to create a shortcut and skipping all the gauntlets except for the last one
are you guys trolling or fr
He'll die of old age eventually 
Ye no Shakra dies
Sherma death is the saddest in the game
trolling
STOP
You mean 3rd or 1st?
he lowkey explodes
fr
shermas gonna draw his last breath singing with you then you
WHY IS HORNET LESS DURABLE THAN A DELICATE FLOWER
chat ||savage beastfly|| is dogshit
||after the 3rd level||
The freak floor 😭
Oh come on 😭
like fuckin TNT
sorry my subconscious is thirsty apparently
ur supposed to dodge
Who tf made that rule
The moment Sherma is attacked by Shakra is one of the saddest in the game
Wait so hornet made her own cloak?
is it me or should lost lace get a secret ending where u fight the void ITSELF (not just a version of it that took lace shape) and at the end u do like in the end of the base game when u beat radiance so the knight finish the void and helps u banish it
not so easy when there is void everywhere
revealed in act 3
if u dodge the low durabillity doesnt matter
STOP
lost shakra pmo
when does this game get really good ?
Welp at least Garamond lives
Can we get much higher?
yeah cause then you get shakra fight
act 2 if youre tired, act 3 when you lock in
chopped his head clean off
guys How do I unlock Act 4? I see people already doing it
Kill all the fleas at the flea festival
is that all
Lace feels like an unfair fight
gotta get ||sherma’s cloak and the last heart to revive him||
Ye basically
how do i beat lost gms
pogo
How do I beat lost lace
you forgot the sherma heart sidequest
Her attacks are too fast to dodge
||how long till act two i just killed the boss thats dangling from the celling and shotes spike trees at you after bell town||
Oh ye mb
js dodge faster
genuinely act nonchalant
not even lying
Get faster
The only fight I see as "unfair" is savage beastfly in far fields because the fucking lava spitter things make me wanna scream
Ur pretty close to act2
I already beat that boss so it is by definition fair
one more area (assuming you go through blasted steps)
there's a couple of ways including massacring the fleas at flea festival or reviving sherma but I'm pretty sure it depends on what ending you got
By enjoying the great OST in the background at phase 2
depends on the route you take, probably like 6 hours of game time
brother my full playtime is 6 hours
Jus don’t go west-north and you’ll be fine
yeah, 6 more hrs
yeah you just have to pick the sound of the music and NOT laces incessant screaming
im about to start act 3 in steel soul mode
2 more required bosses no matter what path u choose
die ingame
I..have also beat that boss, LOL
It's just annoying and unfair due to the rate the ads spawn
wish me luck!
Start it in cursed mode+ steel soul mode lol
lick wished
i already got rid of the curse
Happy void enemy gauntlet brotato✌️🙏
may i ask why ?
tanks
Anyways is GMS (cursed) hard?
Beats to listen to before ass jim crushes your skull
hmm then where do i go ?
nope
bros about to get mistical
we NEED a NG+
I want to obliterate everyone with my Shaman crest
tc should add NG+ if you beat LL
Can't believe people are in denial about this
these guys together gon be the end of me
Which is the harder ss bosses setup:
Cursed vs Barbed bracelet run?
i radianted gms in this steel soul run just on accident
also i saw wall climb abilty is close but i dont know where to get it
East and north
???
You are probably very skilled in metroidvanias
widow my beloved
Unstoppable force vs immovable object
Don’t uglify my boy like that
WHATS THAT DO I DONT GET IT
What happened to the whole bugs need masks for sentience thing or was that just a cultural thing in hallownest 😭
its mostly cause im a gd player so games like silksong and hollow knight arent hrad in comparison
why cant i have dreamgate 😭
im actually on a break to play some easier games rn 😭
you take rosaries and shell shards everytime you hit smth with clawline
oh and I think a 25% dmg increase to clawline
lesbian couple
When you hit enemies they drop rosaries but the amount of rosaries they drop on hits equals to amount they would drop upon death so this thing is completely useless
Guys suppose hornet has 8 masks and needle level 2.
And suppose she is cursed.
Now she starts act 3 while cursed
Would it be super hard?
i would honestly like to see gamer’s reaction times compared to nongamers
Symphony Of The Kinetic
Plasmfied Zango
Voltvyrm
Palestag
Gurr The Outcast
Crawfather
(REST SPOT)
Lost Garmond
Bell Eater
Watcher At The Edge
Shrine Guardian Seth
Garmond And Zaza normal fight
Shakra
THE LIGHT WIELDER
(a medium heighted figure, completely white but with some black spots. wields a white katana and heres the attacks. can go disappear and telegraph an attack, slashes from above come down in a fashioned pattern. gos either behind or infront of you, and cuts through he air with his katana, like quirrel with uumuu. gos above you and does the seth double dmg thing, throws his katana across the arena and then gos to it or doesn't go to it. silk spear/harpoon style. gos from above and throws his katana on the ground, then does the widow big bell attack but faster. in second phase he just gets faster, and he does 2 dmg. someone make the lore pls)
and hand eye coordination as well
Yes
The fuck
uhh yea ig
my fourth silksong pantheon btw
You can't start act 3 while cursed but I think you can get cursed during act 3
my reaction time sucks in anything other than a video game
anyone want the previous ones?
Chat?
I fell like this is a bit easy
?
bro 😭
after i started playing hk i genuinely noticed my reaction time improving irl
Doesn't being cursed cause the twisted child ending? So you can't activate the trap
correct
why is it that 80% of those bosses are like C-tier at best
I havent beaten cursed gms yet.
How I feel 100% without needing to do the whole skididly hunter journal
Peak game not wasting my time🤧
imagine you could and hornets parasite just slaps the voids hands or smth😭
ill figure it out later lmao (i know this is easy for 4th pantheon)
120 hours and no max journal? oof
You didn't have to do it too in hollow knight?
I like exploring ok💔
i fear your time was wasted g

a fellow explorer!
OMG HIGH HALLS ARENA IS A RUN KILLER
stolen from hk meme lmao
because i used up all the good bosses in the last 3 pantheons
He running pacifist yall just don’t get it
He peaceful and shi
rip 😭
At least this one has Crawfather and Seth I guess
Yeah
time to try and beat LL again
wish me luck
THE BOSS IS BADASS THOUGH RIGHT GUYS
I beat moss mother by talking how I also can relate to her problems
Wait did anyone mod pantheons yet??
Most silksong bosses are peak 20% are bad
And flirting
which boss?
lick wished
the one in in skong pantheon(scroll up)
yippee!
I agree but most listed there are pretty plain to fight against
may I inquire why do you have yamslammer voicelines saved on you device
Silksong is a major improvement to hollow knight in terms of a lot of things ngl
Makes sense tho
HK was made in like 2 years and SS took a lot longer, plus they also likely had more budget.
im at 60 hours and i havent even started act 3 yet 💔 am i slow
lugoli lover
do we have a mp3 of the rosary collection sound? i really like it hehe
nah everybody plays at their own pace
also i like listening to his voicelines
What happens if you never open the gate for Sherma?
It sounds like nothing vro 😭😭😭
it’s literally 0.4 seconds tf
regular garmond and zaza after lost garmond is an extremely weird placement, and also placing shakra at the fourth pantheon seems a little high considering you also placed act 3 bosses before her
The little clicking noise????
I got to act 2 with 60 hours
He teleports idk I didn't open the door but he somehow got to pilgrims rest
overall i just dont agree with this.
Wizard
is there a way that i can track my silksong to see which bosses i need to kill or items to get so i can fully finish the game???
yeah i feel like my reaction time is insane when im playing a video game but irl my brain works in a different way
im proud of you for this
I imagine she gon play it on repeat
The power of song
also im in act 3 now
its not final lmao
are ya in act 3?
if you think about it life is just steel soul
Farsight
also i asked if the boss is badass
i also killed the final boss
I BET YOU MISSED THIS AREA
do you have the farsight item?
Can we act like plasmified zango doesn't exist this battle was shitty af
whyd i choose steel soul mode in the menu screen of life?
3 hearts tell a lot
yes and I commented some things i dont agree about
That's in the underworks iirc
isnt that required for the heart?
i thought you voiced over this image
the thing that shows how much precentage i have completed??
Here is your daily Kisuke Urahara edit
stick drift
Yeah but it doesn't show bosses, it just shows percentage and missing tools and enemies from the diary
it shows the stuff your missing (not very helpful, but you can ask people)
jokes on you im a keyboard player
“Power scaler” in bio is ultimate woman repellent
key slide
today i realised that one place in the underworks with a dead end actuallty connects to the wisp thicket giant bell
what :sdob:
Didn't even 100% the game and you finished 11 hours faster than me
keyboard players are a different breed
i know but i saw someone once somehow connect his silksong stats to a discord bot
its just better than controller
Worst part was this like wtf Hornet 😭
That's a mod
I’m using Mac keyboard
game is literally easier on keyboard (never played on controller)
WHAT THE HELL DID I MISS OUT ON
its ok that means you took more time with playing the game and there's nothing wrong with that
oh okay
bro 💀
I used flintslate and fleabrew and shred through him
hope no ones playing on a drawing tablet
I literally use keyboard for every game lol i find it's more consistent than using controller
It ain’t that bad I ascended to surface today in like 20 mins
Can you refight Shakra after act 3 starts?
I can screen proof
dont osu players play on a drawing tablet sometimes
probably just practice, i never learned to play keyboard
Our senses are super streamlined
It's a lot more precise for me so I use keyboard due to it making some things like pogoing a little easier
guys team cherry should make ALL OF THE DLC steel soul exclusive, and make it only appear from act 3 onwards
personally i dont get but if it works it works!
WHOS WITH ME
Get out
a large percentage of players wouldn’t play it then💀
back to the underworks
nobody
Yeah that's why it's bad
Too easy he just vomits toothpaste and acts like he's a worm after
not everyone is hyper obsessed w the game like we are guys😭
I NEED BOSS RUSH AND ACT 4
It's not like being obsessed that idea is just messed up 😭
Groal be thinking he's lugoli
For me dping much dmg was fun but its your opinion
Act 4
my biggest hope for a silksong dlc is they add a godhome equivolent and also maybe add back in some cut areas like Pharloom Bay. They could also expand the coral tower memory thing and just make it a full on area
So he's fun because he's a punching bag?
would love to see that
huh
The fight isn't even that bad, can be a tiny bit annoying at times, but it's unique, and is a good boss for the area, also isn't incredibly gimmicky unlike some other bosses
YES 😭
Guys how would the knight perform against groal?
Isnt the knight slower than hornet?
Would the knight struggle against groal?
Would Groal eat the knight?
godhome or something very similar is a given i think
Old pre-citadel bilewater my biggest wish, area should be redeemed
That would be their last DLC I'd they do that again, because other DLCs adding new bosses
AND ACT 4
Smh poor zango
godhome equivalent is probably last tbh
😎
gg
Now shower
Too much HP and the fact it summons mobs is why I dislike it personally, but the spear attack is fun
ew no
grass
The game has been out for a month
gotta grind for sub hour
i think a full area makes a lot of sense considering the white palace w/ dream anil
thats short?
47 days for platinum 🙏
Even brings back the best character
SHERMA LOOK OUTT
Why is Shakra attacking Sherma
oh its a mod
Yeah, the spears were cool, it's not the best boss, but it's not incredibly bad, doesn't deserve as much hate as it gets
wait zote
unrealistic, zote would have fallen into the sandcarver pit
he just stands there looking back through the screen
Man,why does Team Cherry hate happiness
Long enough for someone who has been a fan of the original HK to get all achievements
around how much HP does LL have once GMS strikes her sexy pose?
why do i understand
Just got done with Hero's Call quest and my god do i want to fucking cry
yk
when GMS tries to distract us from Lace
nearly worked too
crazy to think how the surface above pharloom must look geographically speaking bc it runs so deep so is pharloom just a massive mountain or does it just go that deep into the world? i mean it had a mountain INSIDE of it underground so it must just go that deep?🤔 these are the questions
i honestly left it for last
i couldnt bring myself to
idk why people are disagreeing 50 days is a lot of time and I didnt even play every day
the great mighty handsome gorgeous powerful fearless zote would never fall to some useless mobs or terrain
Because she's a monster #sk-discussion message
As is Hornet #sk-discussion message
normal people exist… we’re just insane
The world record speed run is over an hour I believe, you're not getting sub hour 
silksong lowkey fits the criteria for a soulslike
FR I HAD LIKE ONLY 2 WEEKS TO PLAY
wr is 54 minutes
But he's Zote the Mighty, a knight of great reknown
frist sinner bossfight is so awesome
Nearly let my own kind of void out😩
Vengefly King Victim💔
Still, you need to get like top 13
@grizzled birch have you beaten her yet?
thats why im gonna grind
unobjectively correct opinion
actually first im gonna beat lost sinner
I want a refight with more nails so I can spam Cross Stitch
If this isn’t conventionally attractive to yall I don’t even know what is
last dinner was really fun
if you want to do it right now you could download the lost sinner mod
That’s a great idea actually
What do you think?
so crazy bc hallownest had 2 peaks on either side of dirtmouth at the surface but pharloom is just one massive underground maze with an opening above ||the cradle and possibly mount fay, and possibly blasted steps ig||
hmmvaladala
How many masks do you have
Six
Dawg she ain’t even that difficult u can’t oneshot the flying twats with threadstorm
bro do some quests and get tools
actually yeah that is a very interesting point
I KNOW THAT THREADSTORM CAN HELP BUT ITS TOO DAMN HARD AND ANNOYING
what crest?
Normal since reaper have low attack speed
УВФЦВФЦВ
Understandable
i so desperately want to see your gameplay 💔 does anyone in chat know how to record nintendo switch gameplay
i disagree tbh
record from phone
@forest quest
holding down the camera button
it makes me wonder whether pharloom is one massive mountain or if it just goes that far down into the world, or a little bit of both🤔
I sent it in messages
i dont have many tips for you bro
you can hit the spines she throws down?
silk skills kill the guys immediately
when she does her slam attack, dodge in both directions not just one
@grizzled birch
@grizzled birch
my dumbass thought it was a volcano 💔
As much as I love the ost for silksong I really do enjoy sealed vessel and radiance's theme more than any of the bosses from silksong, well, actually I'd give karmelita and radiances theme a tie, I just absolutely love sealed vessel though
haha i can totally see how you’d get there
hk songs are very memorable!
imo gms' theme is cool, cogwork dancers and core is very goated
honestly silksong doesn't really have that many memorable songs
excellent rage bait
Cogwork core
choral chambers
under-
oh sure it's well-composed and sounds great, but I find that there are only a few pieces I can actually genuinely remember even after having played the game
yeah cogwork core is 100% one of those memorable songs, genuine S tier banger
Strive
lowkey i feel this
then again game music is like background noise to me
EXCEPT LAST DIVE
yeah, thats fair. but maybe that could be because the game's still relatively recent
i was too busy crashing out to notice 😭
ig
actually i do agree it’s a little less memorable than hk’s but the music theory behind it is fascinating, specifically the use of dies irae theme throughout the ost
i played minecraft on mute
lost lace's theme was kinda dissapointing ngl
but I just feel like there are other games with soundtracks that have left greater lasting impacts than Skong's, y'know
silksong has more ambient music so sometimes melodys can be hard to hear
not necessarily bad, video game music should mostly enhance the experience, except maybe when the visuals are a tad lacking, like in undertale.
❓
Tbh I felt this way about a lot of HK's soundtrack until I went back and started listening to them again and that's when I started to really like it, and the same happened with Silksong (though some definitely stood out like broken vessel and widow)
same, I just play my own music (mc music doesnt play nearly enough to justify having it on)
yeah
i want a skong area that forces you to pay attention to the music
gms' theme feels more climactic and epic than lost lace
a memorable song for me is coral tower
like in Celeste where there are puzzles timed to the music
thats why last dude stood out to me, the cutscene forces you
Toby Fox really cooked
He made up for not having a large budget or dev team by making the graphics simple, and made up for that by making banger music
and then made that music tell a story
and then only ever really composed like 3 whole tracks because Undertale is listed on the wikipedia of Leitmotifs
there’s a great vid on the use of dies irae in skong, dies irae being the theme of death, you can hear it in the title screen, the notes each of the bell shrines play, and in gms’s theme particularly
Silksong music wasn't as memorable as hollow knight
honestly I don't really remember GMS's theme except for those first few notes when she appears
I'm not saying that they're bad, they're absolutely amazing!
I just think sealed vessel is an absolutely amazing theme and same with radiance and Karmelita, i know that because I literally can't remember the other themes, but I do have shit memory
karmelitas high note is another instance of this
Cogwork core
best Skong track in my opinion is strive
where are u getting these 😭
cat guy
the humble Cogwork core with the dun dundunduun:
From silksong
Karmelita, Phantom, Lace, Cogwork Core, Choral Chambers and Last Dive are all pretty memorable
i HATE THIS MF WITH SO MUCH PASSION
Still wasn't as memorable as any hollow knight soundtrack
just do the other hearts then fam
as much as i hate the area bilewaters theme is quite fire too
Such a peak boss
naaaah strives better, changing the time signature doesn’t have the same impact as introducing an instrument like in strive for me
I hate sister splinter with a passion
IS THE LACERATING FLUID THING WORTH IT TO DROP OFF
bile water is the most memorable in my opinion
cogwork dancers too
Oh wait thought you were talking about cogwork dancers
Yeah, they were even better
If you're only comparing base game HK to current Silksong, then I would have to disagree.
