#sk-discussion
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complete opposite for me, in hk I just put the same stuff on every time and never looked back, here I'm experimenting with red tools and which blue tools to equip it's fun
Volt them bitches
Its not that bad imo
Does decent damage
what are those again
you can only get 9 masks in act 2 and 10 in 3
lmao
oh that's cool
https://fxtwitter.com/Chun_Grandfa/status/1974811018531578355?t=6nMerbHfhGB89S9DRsnv4w&s=19 i dont remember this boss appearing in my playthrough 🤔 /j
You serious? That's really cool
wtf is that
dice are much weaker than CM, the only reason they feel better is because they don't take up the spot of something really good
Baby cragglers
Much better options for blue tools unfortunately
19 masks total? why?
theres 20 masks total? 16 in act 2
Those fuckers that spit perma poison on wormways path from bone bottom
Yeah, but its still decent when you can first get it
mohg is one of the coolest designs in elden ring this makes me so happy
oh i think im at 15 idk which one i missed tho
i know that the wanderer crest combo is what i love
sister splinter skip is so peak
Worst tool in the game has to be the wisp fire lantern
It does fall off quite fast, but I find it strong for hoe early you get it
Best tool in the game
nah
yeah shouldve clarified i meant full masks before, did you get the blasted steps one?
GARAMA GARAMA GARAMA GARAMA GARAMA GARAMA
I'd take this over Savage Beastfly 2 ngl
wormways.... idk
gonna try to take out plasmified zango. any tools to help kill him as fast as possible?
🤣
like the plasmium thingies?
Which enemy is the beefiest in hp
I need to give the Broodling the queen egg next playthrough
Did you do the quest already?
gamble with dice
Witch crest
the plasmium gathering quest item can one shot him lol
yup
Or shaman threadstorm if you just wanna cheese him
I'd Beast/FleaBrew/Flintslate
can it?
i used it on him, he didnt die immidently
FUCK WRONG MESSAGE
oh i guess i was baited them 💔
is there a unique interaction there
False it takes 4 shots
time to let the demons inside me out👿
Gets severely damaged tho
sad how hornet doesnt say SHAW or ADINO anymre
Adidas
It takes his hp down to 250 I believe
I don't like witch crest. Feels like a worse threadstorm build
can you send a photo pls?
is there a limit on how many cogflies u can spawn?
6
In this universe Hornet would just be like "what the fuck is going on? who are these people?"
4 I think
crazy how beast, the most offensive crest, doesnt have 3 red slots but architect does
PETITION TO REMOVE BEASTS SILK SKILL FOR A RED/BLUE TOOL SLOT
aight thanks
oh mb i thought 6
It's dependent on upgrade
It can be 6 if max tool slot
is the unravelled act 3 boss?
finna do skarrsinger
Keep beast silk skill
no Act 2
uhh
modded bosses getting crazier
i think can be act 2
2 but optional
hell no
she'd see the elden beast and think of the white lady
act 2
I feel like there should be, it's asking for a egg. It's going to be something and I'm interested in doing it. I'll also fight normal Garmond and Zaza
it's not possible to have all tools at the same time no?
how to access the key
why not
not optional
Man we should've just thrown lace into bilewater and let the muckmaggots eat her alive
it is
it gives a silk heart, which is required
yeah, snare setter is necessary to lose for act 3 and pin badge is act 3 exclusive
if u want the silk heart then u wanna kill the unravelled
Oh also need to save the ||guy in underworks this time||
required for what?
not counting claw mirror upgrade as a new tool it's not a new tool it's just an upgrade
Losing snare setter sucks
DAMN YOU CARETAKER!!!!!
I never got to use it🥀
we ALL hate the snails
||why dis the Snail Shamans send Grand Mother Silk to the Abyss instead of Bilewater? Are they stupid?||
Midra about to do 3 mask per hit

oh my god are you FKin kidding me, groal has a phase 3?
5 phases, actually
Groal phase 3, Bench
smh my head
Rock candy
bruh am i the only one who didnt get captured to slab
another 1 trillion phases to groal the great
Shake my head my head
Yes
I didnt either
i killed the wardenfly lol
nope
didn't happen my first playthrough I just killed the dumbass
i just ignored him
Plasmified zango should have 4000 hp or else its kind of a wasted opportunity
and left
same
that'd be brutal. considering maggots consume or halt the use of silk, and Lace is made of silk, she'd be cooked the moment she entered the water
as someone that has done slab escape and post-mount fay slab (need apostate key to reach upper slab if not captured), slab escape is so much cooler it's not even funny
Theres so many ways to enter the citadel
Wardenfly
Phantom
Last Judge
It wasn't that hard to dodge... idk how others didnt
wardenfly is not a way to enter act 2
You can’t enter the citadel through Slab
phantom most fun
the slab is locked
Wardenfly is not
One way
I got gooped...
whats yall top 5 bosses in order
You mean scooped
I would LOVE to do a prision break sequence
wish it was lwk apart of the story and not missable ngl
the third way to enter the citadel is through wisp thicket, it requires getting faydown cloak in act 1
trobbio takes all 5 cuz hes too fat
You can get double jump from getting captured and go through Wisp Thicket
Low visibility in bilewater fucked me up
Nah the goop that stops you from moving
i guess i have to just accept defeat and refer to the HOW TO BEAT Groal Boss STUPIDLY EASY GUIDE video
nvm then I thought you could
what happens when you get your cloak back then?
oh right I guess I just hyperfocused on the slab bit
is it even possible to get Faydown in Act 1? You need clawline for Mount Fay
Is widow hard?
you use eira to return to safety
Oh gross. You got spit on
With corpse skips
it requires some tricky platforming but it's possible
It is, but it requires coccoon skips
For act 1 standards yes
I WISH I GOT CAPTURED WTH THIS SOUNDS FIRE
also cocoon skips yeah
my top 5 bosses in order:
- Karmalita
- First Sinner
- Trobbio
- Phantom
- LL
First sinner overated
Honestly majority of the game has a visibility issue and it's one of the few things I find very annoying
nah
I shouldn't be surprised but that's insane
But I just defeated sister splinter and savage beastfly 🤌🤌
havent fought LL yet, but everything else checks out
5.cogwork dancers
4.lace 1
3.savage beastfly 1
2 FoF
1.craw father
FoF?
top 5 bosses is probably like
lost lace
karmelita
crust king khann
widow
lace 2
fr, I only liked the 3rd phase when she stopped running
Regular trobbio?
Father of flame
both take spot
first sinner got super demoted imo she's no longer top 5 lol
Buns
ohhhhhhh
just... too easy, she's fun but like way too easy, similar to grand mother silk
Craw father is actually the best boss
istg GMS so underrated
Crow of judgement ahhh
hear me out
Moss mother best boss
gms is in my top 10 yeah
trobbio above c tier
Holy aura
Lost Mother Gank
- Karmilita
- Lace 2
- Tormented Trobbio
- Phantom
- GMS/Cogwork/Clover Dancers
Wait no
my fastest LL so far is 2:30~ with witches, I need to go faster
What's the best boss, ONLY counting aura
Unironically high tier which is weird considering his similarities to other bosses
okay that's cheating
Shakra best
nooooooooooo
whats yall fastest speedrun so far?
crust king khann, THAT MAN IS AN AURA FARMER
Wth y can fight shakra
If not for trobbio at 3 this would be the list
I feel like First Sinner both lasts longer and is more engaging than GMS.
I can't say GMS is underrated because she's so short and doesn't do a lot that presents any kind of engagement or challenge
Shakra prepped me for first dinner perfectly
what did my boy do😭
first dinner? What about Second Sandwitch?
The fight itself sucks. Carried by personality in rankings the same way fourth chorus is carried by aura
@stone trail whats ur fastest any% speedrun so far
how about Last Supper?
first sinner's main attack is nearly identical to gms, and her slash attacks are just "harder" versions of widows slashes, also rune rage sucks I've never gotten hit by it
Gms is the thesis statement as to why contact dmg has to remain as a mechanic
I don't do actual speedruns cause I don't have that kind of mental fortitude
oh lol fair ewnough
I really liked it
I never had any of the issues with the fight others did
Just boss fights
Cranium broken
omg this video i just watched for groal recommends just staying under water the whole time i didnt even consider that
Guys do i need Silk Soar to get out of the abyss
You guys remember that THK is also easy despite having contact damage
Pretty nice, haven't tried LL with witch yet
tbh i feel like in hk now
I say harder in quotes because widow's slashes end up being more difficult to dodge due to your more limited options at the stage of the game
she can do multiple things simulataneously and even attack while binding.
Yup. I did that
my groal glitched he staggered on land and stayed like that for the rest of the fight coz he couldnt go in water
since i'm just getting all journals and i'm good enough so that bosses don't kill me that easily
Holy fucking hell why do I have to do path of pain with rising lava 
Thk attacks are telegraphed asf
I agree First Sinner's not very hard but she's definitely more engaging than GMS
Groal was harder than Lost Lace
any Radience/GMS-like boss with a large floating body shouldn't have contact dmg
yeah she's still top 10 but I think it's just way too easy to be considered the best fight in the game or even top 5
yes ofc
abyss climb?
my gms top 10 ranking is carried by cursed ending btw
And so are half the bosses besides adult sea cucumbers
Yeah 😭
why did it take me like 40 tries to beat last judge but i first tried lace 2 AND phantom?
I struggled too, dw😭
I'm getting my ass stressed with the fact that literal lava is chasing me
Cuz you were more prepared
HA i beat him he was just 2 hits away when i paused it
I don't think a boss needs to be hard to rank highly. People love Gwyn from Dark Souls 1 and he's easy
Eh its quite generous dw
last judge has like 6 moves total
an easy fight can be great, but a hard fight that's great will always win out for me
Crest ranking
1.beast
2architect
3.shaman
4.witch
5.wanderer
6.hunter
7.reaper
Sister of battle
Cogwork dancer
ffirst sinner
we gotta be trolling
khann only manages to be in my top 5 due to coral tower
guys, how do i get back to act 1 locations in act 2?
First Winner and Widow are very similar to eachother in moveset
no why wanderer so LOW
as someone that uses reaper
I agree
from least to greatest
Guys please help do i need silk soar to get out of the abyss
I believe so
crest ranking
- wanderer
- shaman
- the rest
- architect ( shame on u for using this
/j )
^^^
valid list
Well shit...i believe i soft locked myself...
shamans just ass. too gimmicky
Wanderer is just Beast for betas
crest ranking
- all
beast is the best
how
how
Sisters of Battle is actually pretty challenging tbh. Not as hard as Absrad, Pure Vessel, or NKG but still one of HK's hardest fights for sure
Nah silk soar is in the abyss, you can get it
I don't have silk soar and am in the abyss
Crest ranking
- Defender's Crest
silk soar IS IN THE ABYSS
crst ranking
1.reaper
2.reaper
3.reaper
4.reaper
5.reaper
6.reaper
7.reaper
You get Silk Soar in the Abyss, your fine
Oh
agreed
No
oh hell nah reaper is so mid in act 3
so slow
highest burst damage in the game
Whew thank god i tought 45 hours went down the drain
ok and
Reaper is at 7. Good list
HK build ranking
- Poo build
The rest
I used reaper for majority of the game but moved to wanderer cuz it felt more necessary
It was karmelita
Outclassed no good ablilites
wanderer
hunter
(rest ass), ( witch is fun to use but thats it)
like it can throw out 2 silk skills that easily outpace a witch bind
why else do u think u had to go into the abyss
same list with reaper at 1 btw
repear is only good for early game after that it is one of worst crests
Snail shamans told me to
have you like... actually used it
no
Silksong tool tierlist
Everything is in F tier
wanderer doesn't need abilities it's fucking quick slash
Carried me through act 2
Barbed bracelet is s
Only crest that is straight up powercrept is witch btw
Every other crest has a niche of excellence
will i ever be able to play them in my bellhome
beast crest is the best
every tool is f
Believe it or not quick slash can get outclassed
Nope
yeah, agreed. i used it majority of act 2, but when i fought karmelita and seth, i realised that the hitspeed is too slow and used wanderer, which turned out to be amazing
wanderer --> best crest for actually skilled player
shaman --> best for silk skill focused
reaper --> best for beginner
the extra damage is barely useful. wandere will do that faster WITH spells and MORE of spells
Yes
It probably takes longer for a Reaper user to beat an endgame boss then for someone to beat Pantheon 5 with all bindings
outclassed by what specifically
tacks #1 tool
D:
yall are overreacting 😭
u missed an item in the memorium
crest ranking
- Wanderer
- Hunters
- Wanderer
- Wanderer
- Architect
- Wanderer
- Wanderer
You should be able to buy it in the shop since you got all of them
Beast is the best for a skilled player
Straight Pin and Cling Grip better
beast is hard to say it's generally the best due to how hard it is to maximize the bind against certain bosses
wanderer and beast crests are the best ngl
I CAN GET AN ITEM FOR THAT?
WEHA IS IT
Not sure what triggers it but you can eventually buy a device from the Bellhart merchant
long claw is without a doubt THE BEST TOOL FOR WANDERER
Beast arch shaman
not only can you play them in your Bellhome, you can play the Whiteward one on loop and really fuck with the atmosphere of Bellhart.
Based on gameplay I've seen, switch architect and hunter
architect... lmao
All the crests are mega goated except witch
It's not necessary
mhm
batman loadout works indeed
architect is safe yeah but it's not faster than a good wanderer
witch hate is so forced
It also has a pretty bad tool arrangement
id say wanderer > beast due to the parry capability of wanderer
but i can see how beast i frame in the down pogo can be on par with wanderer parry speed
witch is good actually, you probably mean reaper
HELL YEAH
I prefer to call it the moon knight build
they just dont know how to heal in risky spots
in the memorium, theres an item that gives u a list of things that u have collected
I just beat first sinner on my third try. Was pretty easy. Im so hyped rn!!!!
Yup, anyways here is my take on crests
1 wanderer, witch, shaman
1.1 architect
1.2 hunter, beast
2 reaper
Ex-fuckin-scuse me thats my favorite crest
@native canyon rate the progress so far
wanderer only needs 1 red tool
why yall saying beastgly annoying he aint THAT bad
Moveset is fun and easy to use, but aside from that it doesn't excel in anything
Architect being unable to dump excess silk outside of silkshot holds it back
sick of people underselling wanderer like dude it's fucking wanderer
@solemn lotus Hi fellow Dredge fan
@wind compass its straight to the right of the memorium ventrica station
1 red slot is disgusting lmao
did u beat him when ur realy or ur late game?
The parry is goated
lmao
so? if its fun, its a good crest
Finally after all these years
wtf
best crest in the game.
k, thx
flea brew or flint slate are too op for it, and thats what i use
Point is it's powercrept
it's peak, going spectacularly
fun if you like to be slow as sht
It’s heal does insane damage and is very fast
you only need flintslate
Imo Wanderer's amazing because of how familiar it feels if you've played Hollow Knight before Silksong
bro let it go😭
Threadstorm shaman does it better without the risk of losing ur heals
That looks really good!
Thanksss
I can’t live with 1 red slot
ohh hI have that alr
lowkey after u get really good at the game reaper becomes the worst crest
Best Crest in the game is actually Hunter because its the most fun in the game and has a better skill/learning curve
oh i can
Beast is just wanderer but better
fr
nah its very good even if you did'nt play hk
https://youtu.be/TERgXcdyB1w?si=KNef8Ot6-waAOa0s
Tell me how bad I am at this game lol
why is there no crest that has 3 bloo spots except withchchhchhc
TRUE
Shaman needs you to not take any damage to make it optimal or else you’ll waste all your silk healing
guess we have pretty different playstyles, I only use flea brew and flintslate on anything not named architect or shaman
did u get the thing after that, which is volt vessels?
Because the heal for Witch is a hit or miss, probably
disagree, the bind isn't long enough for you to say this so definitively
With the moveset it got chances are you wont be taking much dmg anyways since it's ranged
beast is top 3 not top 1 because of the bind time limit

ss players trying to grasp the idea that crests can be good by being fun (they dont understand this is a singleplayer game) ( I cant really fault you guys for debating what crest is the best tho ngl cuz I brought it up)
Ok but it’s not TGAT ranged
FR
yup, cleared out the entire maternium
LMAO
dps wise beast is the best
Beast is just so much better at spamming during bind which is clearly what you’re supposed to do also you can get flea brew and flintslate
ITS SO CUTE RAHHH
Different use cases imo. Both burst crests but wanderer is more well rounded while beast all risk
i mean its fun to talk about and see which player like which crest
you get diminishing returns when using flea brew with beast bind
It's mine
can we have the diagram of the contest ?
Spamming is too good with beast
Aw that's dissapointing. Dmg is still cracked tho
of course Witch players like Witch crest it comes with being a witch player lol
Uh let me see if I still have it
yeah it's great but you can say the same for wanderer
phantom should've won smh
It has the highest DPS in specific situations. For longer periods of time, hunter and wanderer will out DPS it, and they have the benefit of needing much less prep time
wanderer also doesn't require a bind to be great, it's just naturally strong
We can like different things
you're really underselling wanderer here imo
Wanderer is exceptional if you know what you’re doing
Wanderer also has the chance to crit but that’s RNG based but you could just get constant crits and kill everything in 1 hit
also beast is not good at exploration/parkour as u cant heal without enemies
wanderer also has the best pogo in the game you can do some crazy shit with it
It has Single highest damage needle art post architect nerf, and an offensive bind that lets you heal without sacrificing damage, and makes boss summons a non-issue and absolutely decimates gauntlets if you're utilising it properly.
- You still get the tools, unlike shaman, where you have to 100% rely on spells.
This fourth chorus guy is tough should I be fighting him now 😭
Gambling crest
hey I mean you are debating what crest is the best
objectively, at least from my view, wanderer outclasses beast
reaper standing there:
B-b-but the 2 percent!
Beast isn’t meant for exploration
True, but the parkour part is underrated on it. I had no problem with learning the pattern
nah bro most of the time i am in breserker mode because the heal forces you to get hits to heal
He is actually one of the easier ones i fear 😭
too slow
Wanderer is good but it does not need 3 yellow slots
Reaper has the most forgiving but wanderer is much more snappy and reliable
technically beast is the one with more dps and the pogo covers all hornet's hitbox
Wanderer makes game too easy since you can just parry every attack and dont ever take any hits
reaper does crazy shit in platforming, I'm talking combat
Beast is still much better than any other crest
do it in tight spaces with 2 walls of spikes
same with witch
This is false
Increased damage and you’re essentially immortal
Nah it took time to master the parry timing
But once it hits the game is pretty much over
atleast the pogo is slightly better
Reaper is good for your first playthrough because it’s very beginner friendly and simple and easy to use, but I think it’s the worst crest as besides that, it has nothing going for it that helps you at higher levels of play
until you have 1 mask and 3 silk
"this combat focused crest struggles with this specific platforming situation, which makes it uniquely bad somehow"
And not every attack is parryable
yup beast is f in exploration but s in combat
Ain't that hard as I completed shtoom quest with it, but I'm not saying it's great at parkour
if you get hit once during the bind you lose out on time and only have a net heal of potentially 1
Just underrated
reaper was my goat for moorwing then i never used it again
Not really
oh yes beast is also bad at fast moving enemies where u cant abuse the 'bind spam'
beast is crazy good for bosses like crawfather that aren't super mobile
It does have an amazing pogo tho. It is absolutely massive
voltvrymm,..
also karmelita
nuh uh
ragingcockfly
it also annihilates bosses that dash into you
look beast is my favorite but wanderer is just so much stronger
Its incredible how people are still arguing about crests, it has been going for few days now, every time i visit this dc i see people arguing about crests
Your bind is shortened not destroyed completely
mmm i wonder why the beast crest that specialises in attacking doesn't work when we don't attack 
u do hits on voltvyrm then 😂
With wanderer + parry u dont even need to jump against her 
People who talk about angled pogos being fine and you just gotta “get used to it” do not understand that having a massive downward hitbox is amazing
wanderer is overrated, architect is mid, praise the hunter crest.
better than lace age discourse
Reaper is a good crest for what it does guys it's not a dps machine it's for slow fights and resource management pilled people
yeah, I said lose out on time
what happens after hornet binds gms
i have its is not that hard
so can other crests?
too much silk :(
the thing that i like the most of reaper is not the pogo tbh
fair enough
In a perfect world everyone uses beast crest
yeah so ?
She coconed herself
what makes beast better in that scenario.
I like to take certain bosses slowly cuz I like the bosses
i like the special bind ability way more so you can spam silk skills
I like its upslash tbh
Maxed Hunter has less needle dps than Wanderer though.
idk nothing wanderer is better in than scenario
Beast crest stands out with like one build and if you do anything else it’s mid but that one build is so broken it carries it to be good
beast is probably gonna be the main crest I use for boss no-hits cause I'm using no tools or silk skills for every boss
why are we arguing again? that was the whole point
beast pogo has a massive everywhere hitbox
Wanderer crest is really only just the quickslash
you're forgetting wanderer is kinda boring crest wise, it's fast and that's it (the crit is there, barely.)
yes and im still wondering why
Lol!
Maxed hunter actually has range without losing a blue spot + 2 reds for the buffs.
U would think that the hunter have atleast bigger range than wanderer but nope
wanderer + longclaw ended up being longer than hunter + longclaw
Beast pogo ain’t even that bad
the pogo is insane as I have said, you can get like 5 hits on beastfly's horizontal charges
witch crest shaman and wanderer fall under that catagory yes, but i like hunter because it's hunter
It's been proven to have less range than Wanderer's though
And gambling, and positioning, and a fantastic pogo, and a cool dash attack, and a great charge attack
it is still S in combat and better dps than wanderer in most situtations because you are in rage mode most of the time so thats about it wanderer is still better because less risk
we are not talking about how interesting the crest is we are talking about how strong it is
i do agree it is kinda boring
Hunter isn't worth it
Witch does it better
its very handy and u can pull off a lot of moveset that u cannot perform on other crests. also the pogo is.. good.
wanderer is stronger but i like literally every other crest more gameplay wise
How it feels to spread lies and misinformation
wanderer is faster so you can keep up with the beastfly
I love wanderer but it gets outclassed
With longclaw ye. But there's 20000 better tools than long law if base dmg is enough
comeon now nothing beats wanderer dps lol
Beast
what is the use for spider strings?
and get more hits in, witch pogo is 2 hits of 0.5x needle damage
ngl witch crest is really hard for me personally, but i see people obliterating bosses with it.
Ok revised crest ranking
- Wanderer
- Shaman / beast ( depending on playstyle )
- The rest
- Architect ( are u even playing the game )
you are severely underselling wanderer here
I’d rather not have a massive blind spot directly below me when fighting bosses or doing platforming
Architect moveset is underrated
architect isn't that low ngl. its stinky cheeses crest but kinda funny to mess around with
Wanderer is good for fast bosses yes
its S tier in fat bosses which are in your range at all times
I used only it and Beast on my last playthrough and I'll say its pretty great. Beast though is tough to used, its the hardest skill ceiling crest for sure
It's gimmick is obviously broken, but the moveset is usable
beast has 196 dps in bind mode wanderer has 150 so thats about 20 or 25% more but it is only like 50% of the time so evens out
wanderers is literally the easy mode crest 😭
and much slower you can probably get like 1 hit in per beastfly charge, while wanderer can do around 2 per
can't heal without enemies would be valid criticism for exploration, if in exploration there wouldn't be several respawning enemies between rooms like mites, worms in ||surface gauntlet||. ONLY place where its a problem is ||Mount fay||
Without longclaw
ur stats are cooked lol thats too high
beast does a lot of dmg so ig its fair and ty for finally saying architect doesnt deserver to exist
whats the use for spider strings?
if you're good enough maybe increase the numbers by 1
Yeaa i was mostly joking cuz architect is just a "throw everything and pray" 
this is not true 😭
Man, this thing is like, actually pretty strong, i hope that we can have a second one eventually
but that means wanderer still gets another hit in
reaper only has swag, otherwise its weak and the worst crest in the game for most other things. i guess you could toss in the arguement it makes it easier to get spells but its not that easy.
idk man maybe but have you tried the phasing through bosses using beast pogo i frams it is pretty op
i had it and messed around with it for a while before giving it over, kinda sad.
as far as i tested that doesn't do shit
Still mad about it being gone. It one of my fav tools
What proof then
Longclaw is not necessary for wanderer. You can't change my mind
All the cheevos are mine!
you can have a damage buff or whatever but wanderer just has an extra hit, that's +100% damage as far as I'm concerned
theres plenty of times i have found out i required heal but i couldnt as i was stuck in a area where u have to HEAL. but the only way is to get through a sequence of parkour.
Also wanderer have critical hit chance
It isnt still did great without it
the thing is wanderers also makes silk easier to get because of the attack speed
team cherry PLEASE nerf it 🙏
2%*
oh yes the crit chance
It does a lot of damage if you use it right
Goated
I never used longclaw neither mop or long nail
And that 2% can clutch u the boss
Just like how magnetize dice is
nerf wanderer and buff shaman/architect (actual attacks)
yeah wanderer is so goated
You don’t
a 1/50 to just fucking invalidate the existence of silk spear
You could just like
Not use it
mag dice is another story, actual goated tool
Wanderer was my main before beast
i mean if u prefer beast thats okay. its decent at best.
team berry why does wanderer side slash have more range than hunter?
00:00 - Hunter, Base
00:08 - Reaper, Base
00:21 - Wanderer, Base
00:30 - Beast, Base
00:41 - Witch, Base
00:51 - Architect, Base
01:08 - Shaman, Base
01:18 - Hunter, Longclaw
01:26 - Reaper, Longclaw
01:35 - Wanderer, Longclaw
01:45 - Beast, Longclaw
01:54 - Witch, Longclaw
02...
Act3 bosses are so tanky
It has less vertical range but more horizontal range
ok i dislike the architect moveset a lot but i feel like the tool spam is so strong that its a necessary downside
and shaman attacks are fine(except the sprint attack)
They literally had to nerf architect nail cause it was too good
its not shorter, just thinner
Maybe wanderer is just for people that use more needle 🪡
Crest ranking assuming you’re good at the game
- Wanderer
- Shaman (you need to be really good to make this pop off since healing isn’t recommended)
- Beast (specifically with the broken build otherwise it’s 7th)
- Architect (amazing utility and optimal in speed kills, but held back by its terrible moveset)
- Hunter (focus means this is still good even tho it’s in the lower half of the list)
- Witch (still good, but the heal and running attack are the only reasons you’d use this crest)
- Reaper (nothing going for it once you start getting good at the game. Pick something else)
ik br
bruh you havent even tried beast have you for boss fights or combat it is one of the best crests
No need to buff architect moveset just use it more
charge attack*
same
I never saw the snare part of the snare setter 😭
I'm saying Wanderer has better range than Hunter not the other way around

i feel like that beast should have more I-frames during the windup for the down atk, but that's just a small thought.
Yeah i know, i was talking like, in a update or something
do not rank again architect is dead last idc what u say it doesnt deserve to be played
i did a full plythrough using only beast crest i know what i am saying
50 second true final boss kill
im well aware about that fact, i just like hunter the most

So why did you ask me for proof that it had better range 😭
my crest ranking based on how fun they are to play
- beast
- shaman
- witch
- hunter
- wanderer
- architect
- reaper
okay man you if you dont think it is good fine i dont wanna argue more
its ass on so many things. and a few things are too spammy
CHAT i just did the whole low% wormways route
Shaw-shank redemption
i didnt?
The high halls gauntlet is so gruelling I hate it after 3 attempts
exactly thats why I hate it. it takes no skill and u just spam 1 button till the boss die. smth that take skill like beast or shaman should be stronger
good list but put wanderer a bit higher
Oh wait, I thought you were the one I replied that to
Wow my ranking differs from yours
I’d rather go to bike water and mount fay combined rather than this
Good thing this isn’t a quality ranking
its too easy
someone said earlier that there was a hidden boss in sands of karak?
Oh that's actually weird af. Still just at the very tip + way thinner
sadly
yup but it is fun to use not more fun than the beast but closer
Go to path to Raging Conchfly and explore the bridge room
flea juggle is harder than karmelita bro
its an|| electric boogaloo|| (taken too literally)
use the beast crest with long nail it is easy
it is. by a LOT
I’m never getting guardian mementos
tools work?
u mean dodge
Oh I got that one, they said it was some ||Watcher of the edge|| or something like that
any radiance 3.0 hitless>flea juggle
i mean the blue ones work
im running hunters rn
they dont
use wanderers for attack speed or shaman for range
Grimm takes depression showers
no tools in any minigames
Dodge is fun
Play what you enjoy>dps/meta 100% of the time. Sorry guys
bruh longnail or whatever it is called it does work
I forgor where that was, but it's in the initial section
Need act 3 ability
i like shaman crest and hunter crest, wanderer and architect are boring
Thank you fleafather for the only right load out opinion
fr beast is fun and witch aswell
do you have super jump
Mark of pride
yeah
beast is one of my favourites. just really hard to get used to parkour sections, great in actual combat
its in the ||first sands of karak room near the memory locket||
Statements dreamed up by the clinically insane
yeah there is also a iframe tech look it up super helpfull makes 2nd beast fly fight walk in the park
It's a parabolic pogo instead of angled or straight down. Once u figure it out it's easier
Hunter is my fav. I haven't tried Wanderer enough but I would probably enjoy it a fair bit. I did use Reaper my entire first playthrough and I actually do like it quite a bit. I like the extra silk because it means I can use Silk skills more often
I guess I'm exploring the first room cause idk where the memory locket was
Tbh all the crests are great to use with only Beast having really noticable drawbacks
Witch* is the one with the drawbacks for me
the pogo is fun ngl its bad at parkour but ignoring that its fun to be a spinny circle
it is only bad in exploring otherwise it is one of the best crest
dawg how to do flea juggle this is worse than when i did cursed gms bro
i know the fact it exists, but i dislike it for parkour only. it's great otherwise
Metroidvania
I would actually love to try out Shaman if you didn't get it so late in the game
I expected to hate Shaman Crest but it is bangin
I don't really consider any pogo to be bad but rather compare it to which one requires most brain activity
what do you main ?
wish the heal was immediate instead of needing to hit enemies, then the aggro happens
bro is kicking my ass so hard
u mean 'dodge'?
That's a lie
hunter, i eat pogo
Can anyone help me,e with the high halls gauntlet any tips?
do you know how to backflip
Hard to pry myself off of it.
You get the range safety people look for in Reaper, but you also get... Yk. An actual upside that does things for you.
there should've been a hybrid mode like switch for normal and beast bind
Judge a pogo on what its used for, good for bouncing on enemies and for environmental stuff
Compete Shakra quest first if u can
i mean...... its a matter of practice.. not really brain activity..
Practice 🙁 is painful
bind + (up key) similar to architect
Like architect. Give it an up-bind.
dodge seems so easy
I’ll try but I rlly want to avoid bile water as much as I can tho
seems? or did u do it
not yet
yeah but it is wha it is ig
Dodge fun as hell
Not only is Hunter pogo really good, it's also really fun and gets more style points than the rest for being a dive
only person ever to say this
You got double jump?
Just dont get hit gang
low% is ez so far
I never released how ass are the pale nails
alot of act 3 bosses are made easy when you learn how to backflip (sprint, flick backward and jump)
no drifter's cloak?
nuh uh
normal playthrough?
if yes. use tacks for fat guys, and if u wanna cheese air guys use cogfly.
they deal needle dmg 😭
no abilities yet lol i need to go and to the skip to get wallclimb first
Is there any merit in getting 100% like cutscenes or stuff
idk but they so convinient tho
achievement ig
I used Pale Nails on the plant lady in Act 3 then never again
the only ass thing about them is they dont target multiple enemies
Ah.
they deal the same as a silkspear 😭
guys im fighting last judge with 5 masks do you guys suggest if i should get more masks
internet points
anyone got any custom crest ideas?
Flea bounce is awesome
You'll be OK
Do I have to beat the conch flies to get to sands of kayak for the map
silkspear is peak
yea thats what i am saying... if they targeted multiple it would be the uniqueness
what if im bad
Oh so thats busted
this guy 5 years ago
You're not, you just think you are
Silken crest, doubles silk threshold but has no colored crest slots and just all silk skills slots 🗣️🔥
soull
i was on 1 mask 2 silk 3rd heart very slowly regenerating against lost lace, she was about to dropkick me so i jumped and hit silkspear I WON
Get some if you want
silkspear saved my shit when i was about to die
Shaman
read the message
Well yea, but also u can visualise ur path to target with each crest
Hunter/arch - Ange
Wanderer/Reaper/Witch - down
Beast - parabolic
Shaman -
40 FLEA JUGGLE OMG YES
See now this one you can have all the silk ski-
The bell beast wishes you a happy hollow-een
if that were a thing, the 3 yellow slots and 1 blue slot would make that Crest fucking terrible
Wait fuh that's only five goddamit
THIS SUCKS🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
what the fUCK
still more slots than the beast
Oooof, little did they know
GUYS PLEASE DOI HAVE TO BEAT THE CONCHFLIES TO GET TO SANDS OF KARAK
how many staggers for last judge
just saying with practice everything gets easier. when i played hk first time pogo was a new tech and it took a bit of practice to do consistently same with other pogos.
there is git gud mod on death
They’re fairly easy to beat dw
Twice
Are they hard I died to them once
yeah but 3 are yellow. what am I gonna use yellow slots for?
Keep hitting till she dies
barbered bracelet
Wait you mean I have to beat the both of them twice
3 compass
Barbered Wire, Silkspeed Anklets, Holy Compass
Dice, Barbed Bracelet, Swift Boots
??? Where dice
Both and then the lone lover gets angry and calls it's children to maul you further on
Remind me how I do spoiler chat
Silkspeed, dice, steady body clone maybe
OH THE DICE
hegale
I actually don't play Barbed Bracelet it's too hard. Forgive me
Silkpeed
Bruv I already beat the mist why do I have to best it again
You mean I kill both of them then one just appears? Or what
Southwest from the Blasted Steps Bellway
Two separate boss fights.
beast + barbed bracelet is goated
Ye, but knowing this in mind I can't exactly rank the pogos since all are the same to me
Too negligent dmg increase anyway but it adds up on prolonged fights
I know, I'm asking why they were not mentioned :v
Can someone add popcorn to image?
Can't damage something that isn't there
they dont have one tho
flea dodge wtf
You fight both, and cutscene only lets you kill one of the two
Afterwards the last one becomes a Raging conchfly later on
the bell hat is welded into their brain so no theyre just in extreme agony
cool, I have one too called the Angel Crest. 4 blue slots, nail turns into projectiles not like shaman crest, the new nail works like tri pin. projectiles don't have range. when binding you fire a silk that work like ||Lost Lace's|| void projectiles, also 2 silk skill slots
did you read the top text?
mooshka is an evil fucker
WHY IS THERE A DAMN SUPERSONIC FLEA BRO
primal aspid brest
Watch it
That's Bob
High on soup
Flea brew fella
i'm going to rip my eyes out
Parry Crest where u get to deal dmg from ur parries
I just bought silk song wish me luck chat
Groal the Great
i'm still allowed to dislike it
My goat
dude you torture your fleas you said they would be safe in the caravan
lol yes
gl have fun
can i kill silkmom while still being able to play the save afterwards? is it like thk and radiance where the save just reverts to the point before the boss
they are. not a single one dies.
Bro he gave them a safe haven and the snail shamans and Hornet screwed it
Imagine attacking mooshka for providing his workers with a super sturdy helmet.
theyre all in extreme agony tho you screwed bell hats into their skin
PLEASE ELIMINATE SUPERSONIC FLEAS FROM THE GAMES
No they’re just regular hats that they wear
theyre inside of their heads
you can literally see the fleas not wearing the hats afterwards
I assure you they are not screwed on. They're just hats
Yah until || Act 3 || u can refight her forever
yall are falling for mooshka propaganda he screwed them on
They’re just snug fits
yeah man mooshka is the real villian
My one regret is letting Kratt join my Caravan
exactly
execute him and you will be forgiven for your flea torture
i can see through your lies
Mooshka is just going to destroy you all by being the final Godhome boss watch
bro hasnt fought ||chaos lord mooshka||
Vog's already on it
he is only in act 6 ig
act 4
guys is 76 on flea dodge good?
but isn't that fight in act 7.8
act 7.8 doesnt exist
Hat
i genuinely don't understand runbacks... having to replay the same annoying part before a difficult boss and risking having less hearts than max for a hard boss just makes me want to play less and every death is not "shit my mistake, let's try to avoid doing that", but "I HAVE TO DO THAT PART AGAIN GODDAMIT"...
blatant lie
grindle needs more attention one of the best chracters
grindle had a lame conclusion imo
grindle best shop in silksong
yeah but his diolgues are goated tho
now hes just a cult leader
You can decompress between boss fights by doing easier stuff.
(Except in bile water, then you can take a bath and develop an aneurysm instead)
ohhh im so hungryyyy
nah act 6 is ||Absolute Grand Void Bile Radiance||
great. now do it with the parasite
no it isnt act 6 is ||silken moss charger||
yeah i forgot bout that and bilewater ass jim
With a splash of rosary grinding
nice, now do cursed ending
thats for later
Karmelita is the only hearty boi left... And that doesn't help the point "Bro the game is good if you don't do that one part you actually want to complete"
Ough im so starving...
Why is bro dead... Well at least I got the best yellow tool for free Xd
IS THIS STEEL SOUL? DAYM
it's funny that you do actually get a parasyte from going to Bilewater

how are people palying silksong on their iphone 2
no no, the bar changes into that on 1st ending
Why do ur masks look like dat then?
it's the gms crest
the masks just start to look like that duirng that cutscene
average pharloom social media
spoilers dude oh my diddly darn
That's it I have 9999999999
you are in The Spoiler Channel
spoilers aren't necessary here
go finish GMS fight for the first time and you will see that happen
ok
Dump truck
i did act 3 so i dont care heh 😼
so did i
also where do i get the psalm cylinder with the screaming guy
in the place with the vaults and they whisper
exactly there are still 9 acts more lol
wat
How does one do silksong mobile
whiteward. you need the key to fight Unravelled and you can find the cylinder after
guys is reaper crest good for bounce?
ty
go play the game man you willl get spoiled
How did bro get mobile
there's 21
Act 12: Grand Hornet as playable
This is ||free real estate||
the miku one was better
those poor fleas grishkin is so evil for going under mooshka's nose and brutally killing fleas
Just beat Watcher at the edge
- 7 hrs long sesbian lex
Grishkin would never!
now beat Watcher at the Axis
Ill just buy a copy for my brother and then pirate it
Shouldn’t have sent that in the official team cherry silksong server lol can the mods pls ban him?
lies you heretic
who's gonna tell him
with Ascended Evolved Lace
Now We gotta fight the watcher knights, all 50 of em
||Watcher At The Centre|| was my favourite DLC boss ngl
and another 12 lace boss fights
okay but what about watcher on the precipice
Well someone has to do smth about this the game isn’t even that expensive tho
We will not be banning people for piracy
I dont have to I just get bored when Im not at home and silksong would be a fun time killer
who caresssssssssssss
you've been talking to Varga too much haven't you? Always making up dreadful rumours
Pirating is illegal tho
Better than discord thats for sure
when he summoned two ||Crust King Khann||s it was crazy
what about ignorer in the centre
in the bell home
rumors he says
I already bought the game gangalang be real rn
Yeah not everyone can afford games as long as they support TC
so is jaywalking but people do that all the time
I love unnecessary game desing that makes me want to not play the game. Masterful gambit teamcherry
yeah on the bellbed and bell spa
how do u have it on phone?
I could not give less of a shit about piracy tbh it’s such a non-issue
can game companies sue me for piracy? 🥀
Pirating is sometimes deserved ngl
dayum
#stopkillinggames
idk what i’m missing for silk and soul quest but it still hasn’t been offered
Nintendo will
question about Eva: ||If you refuse to bind her, can you go talk to her again and get asked again and say yes? Or do you miss out on the Sylph upgrade?||
Nintendo wouldnt?
fleatopia done and all quests honoured including shakra
But team cherry worked 7 years on it and they should at least be paid back even with the prices being low you pirating it is till taking money away from team cherry and this encourages more of these websites
Have you unlocked bellhome have you done the shakra quest
Something tells me Varga's about to become intimately familiar with the recipe for Flea Brew
yes
nah you can bind her even if you say no
thank you 🙂
Check the wiki
reaper crest lowk not bad for bounce
reaper crest lowk not bad
im just giving information man
I have reaper on 90% of the time
Barbed Bracelet is such a cool item
It fixes all the problems with Fragile Strength and Fury of the Fallen
i already bought the game twice
It is not taking money away from tc they are making millions of dollars already
Reaper has low skill ceiling ngl
only pirate games that are never seeing an update, otherwise it's a massive hassle
and also just games you simply can't afford, here's the thing... economic status shouldn't gatekeep culture
yeah grishinkin was the villian all along even exectuing fleas for spreading a little misinfo
NO DONT YOULL GET VOID LUNG
How hard is the conchfly boss
easy
low diff
like first try level easy
Reaper Crest is the best crest for casual players
But it also is the least effective at killing enemies and bosses quickly
It's the filthy casual crest
Is it easier then cog work dancers
Exactly i’m fine with people using it
Ok so first sinner
second sentinel
The three pinstresses
The fourth chorus
the twelfth architect.
its barely harder
It has a good pogo tho
It just irks me when people say it’s the superior crest
biboo smug, kinda cheating in a way
If you suck at Silksong, use Reaper Crest
I enjoyed all bosses except Broodmother and palestag.
Lost verdania is more of a bossfight than the actual boss l0l
fifth lace
Witch and Shaman pogo are better
EXECUTE?! You are mistaken. Grishkin wouldn't execute anybody. That's Vog's job.
i was talking about conchflies
O lol
Lace faze 3??? Guys is there any more please tell me
The two bodies surrounding this pointed statue 
Can you all execute kratt please
Karmelita is a good boss, the runback is like a kick in the balls for trying to do smth you like
They’re lesbians actually
Vog is making the arrangements I assure you
yeah grisskin made og evil by spreading his propogande execute grishikin
just like hornet and lace whoaaaaa
so it’s infinitely worse. you hate women
Nakey
is there even a runback
yeah a few hundered year old chilkd
expand on this sentence
Can big flea inherit the spa
Of course.
ngl i tried silksong and its pretty trash, this game is one of the worst indie games i have ever played, it barely has any details and its one of the worst designed games
Yea a whole gauntlet
Where? In karmelita?
yup
Eternally spun being guarding over pharloom even before the snail shamans came around
Yea totally a kid
needolin > run > arena
Oh like legit
No you're just a troll who likes pissing people off
Childish
any mostly, but Karmelita too, yes
lace is as old as hornet
homophobia isntt a disease it aint gonna spread to everyone else
gauntlet ain't that bad
especially because she is a hard fight
crow gauntlet was more challenging
"found lace" dlc final boss leaked
HollowKnight community when the game about motherhood and children uses the word child.
and high halls one is good too
Not at the expense of others you can't
Get outta here
Go back to /pol/ or wherever you came from
those are pants weirdo
its confirmed in the journal
not confirmed. but lace was built SPECIFICALLY to act like a child and not age.
just got a 2:30 ish LL
they have hats
Don’t work baby fleas don’t have brains 
i think they like it
They are having so much fun.
You think 10-25 year old indie game fans can read?
ur right it’s infuriating it’s going to kill me please read.
i believe you mentioned that before
And yet she ages
its a fucking bug, bugs have no rules in their lives, they do anything even if that bug was just born, some bugs eat their own children.
They gave the fleas helmets, the fleas are enjoying this. Even if they didn't they get their revenge in flea dodge.
Oh boo hoo, am I such a mean man for calling out your trolling?
I'm sowwy
One day loddie will join flea caravan
Or eat their own mother
its still weird
and some childern eat thier own parents hunteress quest
send a screenshot of lace being confirmed as a child
And make an awesome fourth flea game
The ever common practice of bug theocracy, Which bugs tend to do.

actually i realize idc <@&283547423706447872> @jagged igloo
female spiders literally do cannibalism by getting a male to breed with them then eating that male
They’re literally tennis balls ngl
Dont even start with mantisis
i thought that was praying mantises
mooshka would never mistreat his kids
The fleas are willing participants, did the flea brew eat up your brain??? Do we need to call flea brew rehab?
Only if he's bad at the staying alive part.
many insects do it
W thread
so many bugs
4 year old ahh
that was scary
Flea brew rehab is peak
makes sense ngl