sk-discussion

[elder falcon]

Shellwood is just the bug equivalent of normal wood

[runic bane]

oops mb ig

[clear parcel]

I absolutely hate, HATE the high halls gauntlet

[tidal bone]

Why couldn't it have just been cheaper all the time

[elder falcon]

This!!!!

[hollow maple]

Is this a valid ranking?

[runic bane]

what no it was so fun

[amber needle]

honestly i think changing it from blue to yellow would make it good enough to run

[upper moth]

why

[runic bane]

drill go brr

[tidal bone]

Or that

[elder falcon]

Widow not on S tier? Literally trash /j

[clear parcel]

It hurt to much

[upper moth]

its not THAT hard, well.. yes it is, but no its not

[coral quartz]

i like to think hornet is just very uncreative, so she saw shellwood in shellwood and just called it Shellwood 💀
this would be like if i went into a forest, didnt know the name of it, so i called it The Woods

[hollow maple]

oop-

[wind marsh]

I think First sinner should be higher

[next blaze]

groal as an individual boss isn’t that bad and first sinner should be s

[tidal bone]

I constantly just chuck on some random yellow trash cause I don't need anything other than the dice and the shard pendant

[elder falcon]

Hornet saw wood and said "yeah this is wood"

[runic bane]

agree fs is a top 5 boss

[upper moth]

first sinner not in s tier? Public execution

[amber needle]

praying that the last kit is in act 2

[hollow maple]

I fucking despise Groal, not just for a runback but the boss itself is ass

[peak musk]

Dude imagine if someone makes a mod of the Knight in Silksong, and it has new charms, and the silk skills become the spells + Fluke warm + Sharp Shadow

[wind marsh]

Mfw all of those things you can upgrade in act 2

[hollow maple]

I see I have fucked up with First Sinner's placement lol

[runic bane]

shakra sells you the map though…

[coral quartz]

all tool kits can be obtained in act 1/2

[coral quartz]

ok so small correction SHAKRA is the uncreative one

[runic bane]

yes

[hoary mica]

crawfather most underrated fight in the game

[knotty shell]

crust king khan is NOT that bad

[slim thorn]

it would make sense with the name that shellwood is wood made with shells or smt

[elder falcon]

Carmelita is so pretty grahhh

[wind marsh]

It also isn’t that good

[cyan terrace]

i

[hollow maple]

He's that low because of the mass amount of missed potential

[wind marsh]

It’s pretty sad honestly cause his entire area and build up to the boss was S tier

[upper moth]

you

[runic bane]

its fun and a nice break after the gauntlet imo

[timid plinth]

i personally cant think of a reason why moss mother is higher than groal but go ahead ig

[wind marsh]

I actually enjoyed the gauntlet more than the boss

[hollow maple]

Its not painful

[cyan terrace]

i've been captured and i'm in the slab rn, i had 5000 rossaries, will i get it back?

[coral quartz]

they presumably nerfed him since a gauntlet precedes him, but thats a real shame bc he had so much potential

[timid plinth]

i see

[runic bane]

agree tbh i like gauntlets in general i think

[junior cedar]

Guys…

[elder falcon]

Yeah

[tulip stratus]

I require assistance ||What can i do to reliably get Hero's call quest?|| I have been trying to find this guy the entire of ||act 3|| with no luck

[runic bane]

let him cook

[coral quartz]

yes but i would also recommend not just walking around w that much cash, go make some necklaces in bellhart

[paper galleon]

third times the charm 💔 lets hope i dont die this time around

[knotty shell]

clover dancers has no right being that high I’m sorry

[hollow maple]

The Coral Tower's gauntlets were probably one of my favorite parts of Act 3

[wind marsh]

That makes no sense since after the gauntlet you can skip it by destroying one of those big sharp things on the ceiling

[coral quartz]

if this is a steel soul run

[runic bane]

i love coral tower so much

[paper galleon]

yeah, died to her twice already

[junior cedar]

No

[coral quartz]

i was referring to the 1 you always have to do before him

[runic bane]

i wish i could do it again

[coral quartz]

if you wanna be SUPER safe you could get the lifeblood tool before fighting her

[hollow maple]

I don't think its better then the Cogwork Dancers, but I do feel the fight is really damn good

[elder falcon]

Widow is my favorite boss so you got this

[grave forum]

I would put nyleth just above tormented trobbio, the gimmick of no floor is pretty awesome and mostly stops you from cheesing the fight

[tidal bone]

Coral tower was fun but like. Khann is pure dopamine. I don't really care that he's easy

[paper galleon]

already lost 2 saves to her lmao

[slim thorn]

what did i hook into? the air?

[knotty shell]

it just feels jank and unsatisfying imo

[wind marsh]

Ah in that case ig? Carmelita also technically has a gauntlet though and she’s considered at least the second hardest boss in the game

[paper galleon]

im just gonna play it really safe and quit if im at 2 health

[runic bane]

khan is just so much shit on screen but its still so easy

[hollow maple]

Nyleth's in B because of the Colo 3 flashbacks, but I do agree its a really damn good gimmick, especially for an endgame fight

[elder falcon]

Shes relatively easy, just focus your eyes on what she does cause you can read what she does

[wind marsh]

That’s a valid playstyle

[next blaze]

gms

[runic bane]

nyleth was fun though 💔

[paper galleon]

its literally just her attack in her last phase where she runs across the ground slashing at you

[knotty shell]

khan is hype moments and aura and I mean that as a compliment

[grave forum]

Oh I see, I just never fought colo 3

[wind marsh]

When I was fighting him I was like “Please come on bro it can’t be this easy please do something”

[coral quartz]

fair point BUT her's are (mostly) with enemies you should be well-familiar with fighting at this point in the game, and they have less HP than the coral enemies.
i still think khan is disappointing but im trying to justfiy why they'd make him so easy

[timid plinth]

the needle mustve caught lace's pin somehow

[elder falcon]

I just floated past those parts

[hollow maple]

oh-

[runic bane]

it looks harder than it actually is

[paper galleon]

it just catches me off guard

[elder falcon]

Shes silly like that, anyway good luck

[tidal bone]

I think act 3 relies a little bit too much on gauntlet --> boss fight personally

[coral quartz]

colo 3 but you can actually heal midair and have better midair attack options

[hollow maple]

Khann really couldn't of like, idk, shoot projectiles or have punishments if your too close?

[runic bane]

i mean skill expression i guess

[dry star]

Watching someone fight pure vessel didn't realize we just have 2 of his attacks put in silksong

[wind marsh]

It’s honestly sad since they had such a wide variety of enemies literally 10 seconds before the fight that was way more interesting

[slim thorn]

this a lie too

[dry star]

He had punishments
Kind of

[wind marsh]

Exactly

[coral quartz]

only 2/4 of the heart bosses rely on this, and one of them is arguably one of the easiest gauntlets in the game
only khan is the true offender of this

[dry star]

Give him a second he needs to get the right number on his dice

[ornate torrent]

khann is easy but nyleth was easier, so...

[wind marsh]

Imagine he started using the moves of his followers that you just fought

[paper galleon]

ok here we go, only got hit once

[runic bane]

this tbh

[hollow maple]

Khann's gauntlets aren't even all too bad since they are very enjoyable and visually appealing

[wind marsh]

Yeah but Nyleth didn’t have the same build up so I didn’t get as disappointed

[runic bane]

cross stitch also makes nyleth unreasonably easy

[tidal bone]

I mean act 3 in general. You have Coral tower, karmelita, craw father, groal, there might be more i'm not remembering

[coral quartz]

honestly i think if they just gave Khan like ONE melee attack that would drastically improve the fight, him JUST chucking pillars at you is boring

[ornate torrent]

volt filament thread storm fries her even without shaman crest

[runic bane]

bilewater isnt act 3 though

[hoary mica]

how did i do

[graceful spindle]

Guys

[tidal bone]

It is if you do it when you're told lol

[hollow maple]

It would've been so cool if the gauntlets allowed you to learn Khann's patterns

[graceful spindle]

How much phases does fourth chorus have?

[wanton sky]

Groal is Act 2 and a requirement to unlock Act 3

[wind marsh]

Every single time I hear the word “Crawfather” I just die laughing imagining jokes like “Crawfather guide me”

[coral quartz]

no you literally need to do groal to ACTIVATE act 3

[tidal bone]

Oh wait, No I'm dumb lmao

[hoary mica]

you cannot do act 3 without bilewater

[graceful spindle]

How much phases does fourth chorus have?

[paper galleon]

yesss finally only took 3 saves 😭

[meager nexus]

3

[coral quartz]

two

[runic bane]

you need bilewater to get into act 3 lol

[elder falcon]

Im surprised on lace 1 being on B

[graceful spindle]

Shi

[wind marsh]

Exactly it could’ve been like a test for you to make sure you’re ready for the Khann

[meager nexus]

Id say when the air currents appear its the 3rd phase

[hoary mica]

i think it has the same problem as phantom where the boss is cool but it was too easy to be engaging

[runic bane]

why did larkin cook on the bilewater theme of all places i hate being there

[coral quartz]

shortest 3rd phase in the world then lol but fair enough, it is a change in the fight so 3 phases it is

[knotty shell]

why are the forebrothers up there who invited them

[elder falcon]

I guess I just enjoy it cause it was the first time seeing lace, basically where it finally clicked that Im playing silksong lol

[wind marsh]

I think it’s meant to encapsulate its past before it turned to shit

[raven tinsel]

My first Steel Soul run died to the ||Bell Beast|| 💀

Accidental contact damage

[livid wolf]

Hopefully this will help me after my 65 attempts on the high halls arena so I'm going to go back and retry it

[hollow maple]

that is a good damn question

[tidal bone]

Somethign something narrative signifigance XD

[hoary mica]

that fight is so sick idec it gets S

[raven tinsel]

Tacks my brother

[runic bane]

yeah i can see the storytelling like “its sad the citadel messed this place up”

[viral verge]

im fighting fourth chorus rn any strategies on how to beat it

[wind marsh]

Mine died like my first steel soul run death in the og game. Died fighting a boss way too early. In this case it was Beastfly

[viral verge]

I have drifters cloak

[wanton sky]

Cogwork Dancers in A?

[runic bane]

attack up and jump all i got

[viral verge]

alr thx

[hoary mica]

just play patiently, the telegraphs give you a ton of time to dodge

[coral quartz]

i like forgebrothers but it doesnt get S tier, their attack patterns are just a tad bit too simple and the fight becomes way too trivial with magma bell, no higher than A for me

[viral verge]

ok

[worldly kestrel]

Major things I'd change:

Move Crust King to B, like a high B, I get he's easy but it's a fun fight

Garmond and Zaza get a tier above everyone
Lost Garmond gets a tier below everyone

[hoary mica]

same problem as i have with phantom and lace 1 where on paper the boss should be super duper good but i just thought it was too easy

[raven tinsel]

Hit him in the head and dodge his very slow attacks

[viral verge]

alr

[grave forum]

Use silkspear whenever it uses the sweep attack

[toxic horizon]

Tbf he cooks on every theme

[tawny palm]

good fight, easy though

[coral quartz]

yk what i bully everyone's tier list, lemme make my own. stand on business or whatever

[viral verge]

I haven’t done that I’ll try it

[wind marsh]

Side step, jump, make sure to hit his head. For the last phase take the wind drift up and use silkspear on the glowing rock

[elder falcon]

Focus on the land and the arm attack

[hollow maple]

Seth fucking beat my ass like, 15 times

I think I might have a skill issue

[viral verge]

ok thx

[toxic horizon]

Seth was way harder than karmalita for me, no clue how

[viral verge]

alr thx

[toxic horizon]

Got her second try, he took like 9 attempts

[tough mulch]

how do i trigger shakra's quest? i already bought all the maps from her

[tawny palm]

died only because i wanted to brute force him

very easy when u actually dodge

[hollow maple]

He took longer for me to beat then Karmalita

[wind marsh]

It should be on the board

[ornate torrent]

seth is a really fun boss, def hard but not the hardest

[runic bane]

he caught me off guard so many times

and went out of bounds like twice

[wind marsh]

What’s hard is beating his high score

[tough mulch]

checked the bellhart board and there's nothing

[tawny palm]

his arena is so big u can literally just run around its fun

[toxic horizon]

Hardest boss in the game is flea juggle, no contest

[tough mulch]

do i need to progress the main quest or something

[ornate torrent]

yeah beating seth in flea dodge is harder than hitless karmelita 💀

[hollow maple]

For Seth, I would usally get to the final phase at like, 2 or 3 HP with like no damn silk 😭

[tawny palm]

u need double jump

[sharp slate]

done with silksong time to uninstall

[tough mulch]

i have it

[coarse leaf]

what y'all know about silksong.

(Message from 2018)

[left hedge]

my first steel soul i died to the fatass rat mothers in the greymoor sewers

[ornate torrent]

apparently, you need to

• have double jump
• learn 2 parts of the threefold melody OR beat groal

[silent tangle]

true

[wind marsh]

I went through like 3 different crests trying to figure out what works for me and found my answer in Hunter’s crest

[knotty shell]

get a refund, buy with a different account, and do it all again

[left hedge]

flea dodge exists

[toxic horizon]

I cheesed with shaman, got like 29 with witch and was just over it

[wind marsh]

I used Reaper’s crest so worst case scenario I could survive in the air for a bit by pogos

[ornate torrent]

hunters is truly the "do it all" crest

[silent tangle]

"can i beat silksong and get a steam refund" yes you can the speedrun is sub 1 hour

[wind marsh]

I also used Shaman but the dash attack screwed me over too much

[toxic horizon]

Flea dodge is free, first tried the normal challenge and got the seth one like 3rd try

[worldly kestrel]

I had a steel soul run completed at 3 hours and 5 minutes...died to an enemy arena not even 10 minutes later

[tough mulch]

i see, i only have the conductor's melody rn lol

[tawny palm]

i was watching a youtuber and his reaction to seeing the knight in true ending was funny

like its not that damn crazy 😭😭

[left hedge]

god forbid a man is excited

[ornate torrent]

shaman is good for range but imo the attack speed makes it so that the slightest mistiming instantly gets you a strike

[toxic horizon]

It is that deep

[tidal bone]

Cmon, it's pretty cool

[wind marsh]

It has slightly more range than wanderer and it doesn’t have a dogshit charge attack making it the best option for the worst case scenario

[knotty shell]

it was in fact that deep

[viral verge]

||this how do to spoiler||

[wind marsh]

Yeah I used it a bit as well and probably could’ve eventually done it but that would’ve been just me relying on luck to do it

[amber needle]

one more mask shard in act 2 that i have no clue where it is

[ebon hill]

what just fucking happened

[ornate torrent]

probably the blasted steps mask shard

[worldly kestrel]

It's actually extremely cool

[wind marsh]

Imaginary technique Youtube guide

[ornate torrent]

reaper crest uplash 💀

[warm saffron]

I finally beat last judge

[amber needle]

might've already got it but idk

[wind marsh]

You get the one in moss area?

[hollow maple]

huh wuh?

[grave forum]

blasted steps or weavenest atla?

[ebon hill]

i was at 0 masks and somehow survived

[ornate torrent]

ok what happened here is that you got hit by a two hit combo but killed the enemy before it could do the second hit, only the second hit is actually capable of killing you and the first hit just drops you to 0 hp

[amber needle]

might've gotten alta too but idk

[spiral pasture]

unless you didnt get to the top of here you got it

[toxic horizon]

Im so mad that my last spool fragment was the mossy grove one behind the breakable wall, took me like an hour to figure out I was just a brick and didnt see the wall

[amber needle]

lemme go double check

[wind marsh]

Yeah I also missed that the first time

[ornate torrent]

this is like 90% of people's last spool fragment

[mental magnet]

sup

[toxic horizon]

So glad I’m not the only one lmao

[spiral pasture]

my last spool was the one under whitewards elevator

[tight viper]

My last spool was the one Sherma gives you for saving him

[coral quartz]

All right, how'd I do?

[tight viper]

I wonder how long he was down there?

[tight viper]

Ehhhhhhhhh

[mental magnet]

ehhh

Crawfather S tier

[ornate torrent]

crawfather is NOT S tier

[hoary mica]

hes A tier minimum

[worldly kestrel]

Garmond and Zaza belong above S tier

[tawny palm]

do yall think hornet keeps her powers after the true ending?

considering that the very personification of silk is dead, hornet might have lost her weaver powers ?

[mental magnet]

nah trust 🙏

[hollow maple]

Unravelled in F?

[mental magnet]

i think it was just the curse

[tawny palm]

what curse

[tight viper]

He’s at the top of B for me, very fun boss

[mental magnet]

the silk curse

[coral quartz]

game doesnt give you enough opportunities to hit him: he doesnt have that much health but it takes forever

[tight viper]

It’s easy to hit him

[coral quartz]

i dont like fights that are easy AND drag on

[worldly kestrel]

I like Garmond and Zaza

[amber needle]

yeah i did

[ornate torrent]

unravelled is F- tier tbh

[tawny palm]

yeah but GMS is silk itself with her dead it could effect hornet somehow

act 4 release date when

[tight viper]

Atmosphere alone shoots him up a fair bit

[coral quartz]

Unravelled in A?!?!

[tawny palm]

unraveled is the only boss where i think its badly designed

[hoary mica]

incredibly good sound design, good (although not a unique) soundtrack, the only boss where the minions made the fight more fun, has a very fun moveset, crawfather is in A at a minimum

[livid nexus]

I HATE SILKSONG

[amber needle]

wdym tripping on the edge of his cloak makes me take 2 damage

[vivid belfry]

I recommend needle strike, tacks, and cogwheel

[spiral pasture]

did you get the one mask shard in brightvein?

[coral quartz]

A for Atmosphere?! lmao

[hoary mica]

the spear attack is super sick tho so i wouldnt put it in F

[livid nexus]

THIS STUPID GAME KEEPS CRASHING ON THE LAST BIND OF || GRANDMOTHER SILK ||

[vivid belfry]

One of the only parts of the game where cogwheel carries

[tawny palm]

we all do

[livid nexus]

ITS ANNOYING AS FUCK

[tight viper]

Whiteward is my favorite area, and I absolutely love the aestethics of the fight. It’s also just pretty fun and memorable

[amber needle]

i'm assuming thats an act 3 area
if so no

[ornate torrent]

these are all the act 2 mask shards in case you wanted to check a list and see what you're missing

[ashen rune]

Why is conchfly above fourth chorus

[wind marsh]

Cogwork wheel is pretty underrated imo

[spiral pasture]

oh alright
did you get the one in mount fay

[coral quartz]

did that in steel soul and it sped up the fight quite a bit, but on my first playthrough i wasnt using those tools so it was a slog

[tight viper]

I have like half of them in A and S, feels weird putting more up there

[amber needle]

yep

[vivid belfry]

It has to hit at least 6 times per wheel to be worth it

[mental magnet]

I think the DLC will be Act 4, it will be like the aftermath of Act 3 and we might see Pharloom magically restore back its glory days because of Verdania seeming to be growing back

[tight viper]

Anything in B tier is still a fight I really like

[ornate torrent]

i really hope for this

[zenith thunder]

what endgame crests

[wind marsh]

That’s if you care about shell shards

[hoary mica]

thats just because this game has good bosses bro dont count out crawfather just because theres a lot of other good boss fights

[hoary mica]

beast and witch 🤤

[lunar aspen]

Anyone else miss out on shakra fight in act 2? I really want to fight her in act 3 but I can't and I am incredibly mad

[vivid belfry]

If you don't care about shell shards, pimpillo is better at speed kills

[ornate torrent]

beast isn't an endgame crest

[zenith thunder]

he barely has atmosphere since half of his fight is just another regular enemy gauntlet

[tight viper]

B tier is still very good for me, especially top of B tier

[pulsar pond]

She's so fun to fight you missed out

[spiral pasture]

the one in wisp thicket?

[hoary mica]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-surprise-wow-woah-black-gif-5883371

[wind marsh]

True I will concede there

[coral quartz]

yeah i like whiteward too but "fun" and "memorable" arent words i'd use for Unravelled. my friend asked where the 3rd Silk Heart was and i genuinely forgot.
his most common attack is dashing across the floor and then disappearing.
I dont see the appeal

[cloud kraken]

ok so I'm trying to get the 5 hour speedrun achievement and died to widow like 4 times and lost all my money, is that a reset?

[coral quartz]

unfortunately had to switch off the funny bombs bc they were just too expensive

[wanton sky]

If there's a Godhome like DLC in this game, what do you think the equivalent of the nailmasters will be? I hope we get a fight against Eva.

[vivid belfry]

I will move Unraveled out of D tier if his tail hitbox gets removed and his corpse projectiles get some kind of consistency

[cloud kraken]

current save time is like a lil over an hour (I think 1 hour 17 min?)

[coral quartz]

i wouldnt reset but its still very early in the run so resetting wouldnt cost you that much time

[vivid belfry]

Both of those things make you play so safe, it's a huge pain

[amber needle]

yee

[pulsar pond]

The pin upgrader and the pinstress, maybe the pinstress and her sister or sum!

[ornate torrent]

yeah the worst part about unravelled is the shitty hitbox i always get hit by after he does the dash

[craggy fjord]

this boss is...
yikes..

[tight viper]

You find a key on a dead body in a giant trunk of items. It unlocks a giant pit you fall into, with zombified silk corpses jumping out as Hornet’s vision adjusts to the darkness, only for her to see a husk of a conductor sink into the ground and emerge, an avatar of countless souls lost to time and who only remain in the silk of the pit. It’s an amazing atmosphere

[spiral pasture]

im running out of ideas
mask shard in bilewater

[hoary mica]

last judge?

[pulsar pond]

She's quite easy once you handle when to attack her and when to not!

[craggy fjord]

like really really yikes

[spiral pasture]

do you have magma bell

[worldly kestrel]

5th, 6th, and 7th Chourus

[tight viper]

The spears are awesome, and the little break with the summons reinforces that this fight is against the silk arena below you

[stiff briar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYjmoRaZLMM

[coral quartz]

The pin sisters: we know there were 3 of them and they are the ones that teach the art of the needle. seems like a pretty 1:1 parallel to the nail masters

[craggy fjord]

when skmp

[cloud kraken]

they're like mmc if mmc sucked ass

[wanton sky]

We already fought one though, and I'm unsure if they'll do the same thing again

[ornate torrent]

perhaps a list would help

• Pebb
• Deep Docks arena
• Wormways
• Weavenest Atla
• Drifter's Cloak challenge
• Skull Cavern
• Shellwood pogo challenge
• Blasted Steps silk soar skip not really
• Savage Beastfly 2
• Mount Fay cylinder
• Wisp Thicket challenge
• Cogwork Core arena
• Slab challenge
• Jubilana
• Whispering Vaults box challenge
• Bilewater challenge

[tight viper]

The Unravelled title card appears before the boss does because you’re fighting the pain of countless husks who haunt the silk

[craggy fjord]

wait so nails and needles are different?

[amber needle]

this might be the one i'm missing

[pulsar pond]

I don't like how vivid whiteward captures a creepy abandoned hospital

[cloud kraken]

shakra's master is prob showing up

[zenith thunder]

you're dressing it up really fancily to me when it's just a big fatass with a funny helmet
(we literally never see an actual conductor's face in the game how are we supposed to be impacted by this revelation)

[tawny palm]

i was so close to beating nyleth first try

[tight viper]

You see multiple conductor shells

[meager nexus]

Best boss in game

[hoary mica]

if they follow the 5 pantheon pattern again ittl likely be
1: seamstress
2: the pin sister from bilewater
3: idk?? like all 3 of them????
4: GMS+
5: lost lace+

[coral quartz]

i really think ur hyping up the fight or are looking at it through whiteward-tinted glasses. i dont disagree that the atmosphere of the fight is top notch, but i need more than atmosphere from a boss. i need an interesting and compelling moveset, which the Unravelled does NOT offer

[hoary mica]

but i doubt theyd be that formulaic

[meager nexus]

Pinmasters

[zenith thunder]

I feel like unraveled should've had a chase sequence instead of an enemy gauntlet in the middle lol

[amber needle]

is this act 2 or 3?

[tight viper]

I’m very biased towards creepy things like this so I get that

[cloud kraken]

tbh I don't think we're getting such a 1 to 1 paralel to godhome, also p5 boss is 100% gonna be ||knight||

[wind marsh]

Act 3

[craggy fjord]

last judge is very yikes i dunno what to do

[zenith thunder]

did unraveled have a unique ost

[amber needle]

fuck

[meager nexus]

Unravelled is lowkey bad, the moveset is boring and the spears really make no sense

[amber needle]

why can't this fuckass site sort shit by act vro

[meager nexus]

3

[wind marsh]

Hold on let me do you a favor

[hoary mica]

naw thatd be silly honestly they really dont hold a lot of importance narratively to silksong

[zenith thunder]

the spears are the coolest part of his fight i just have no idea why they're there lmao

[livid wolf]

I'm back and I'm not giving up. Attempt 65 currently with no NPC help and no cheesing the last boss. Died to the end 14 times now wish me luck 🙏

[wind marsh]

https://youtu.be/JFXZ74e2b_0?si=DUVo1Uz40-Ykh5-S

[woeful gale]

and the flower thing?

[amber needle]

no thanks

[meager nexus]

Yeah not saying theyre bad. But i really see no connection between a husk made up of countless souls and fucking spears

[spiral pasture]

i presumed they were discarded parts of the injection machines

[thin horizon]

I wish we could clean out putrified ducts and bilewater
I want purified ducts and clearwater

[craggy fjord]

will this help me defeat last judge?

[coral quartz]

you dont gotta say lowkey its highkey bad lol. yeah it has a boring dash-and-disappear attack, inconsistent projectile attack and random steam asset store spears lol. (ik they werent actually from an asset store but they're so random they might as well be)

[wind marsh]

It’s act 1 and 2 only though

[woeful gale]

no

[amber needle]

i really don't like using youtube tutorials ngl

[coral quartz]

anti-fire charm will tho

[tight viper]

I also just personally enjoy the boss, I think the spears are a cool detail and I love how they appear first in the back and foreground. Another attack involving silk threads or something would make it S tier for me probably

[amber needle]

makes me feel hella lazy

[wind marsh]

Maybe but last judge is blocking the way to act 2

[hoary mica]

the spears are such a fun attack, the way that they always sidestep by the same distance makes them really interesting to dodge

[craggy fjord]

ik its just the fact that she does 3 HIT POINTS i think

[coral quartz]

S TIER?! Yeah you gotta stop huffing that creepy atmosphere copium

[ornate torrent]

it's 2

[coral quartz]

only one of her attacks do 3 dmg and thats AFTER you kill her lol

[spiral pasture]

2

[wind marsh]

I already tried to search up on the wiki but they don’t separate things so this is your best shot to not get spoiled

[meager nexus]

Bro might as well be a miniboss atp 😭 functions exactly the same way as those skull mobs from the marrow

[amber needle]

eh, fair, since the map tool sucks ass

[tight viper]

I can’t understate how much I love the Whiteward area and the story behind it

[craggy fjord]

is it bad that im trying to use reaper

[wind marsh]

Cheers to that

[coral quartz]

massive moss charger if it was made of dead bodies

[hoary mica]

the silk siphon is so fucked up

[dry echo]

aint no way my mossberry fell into spikes 💀

[amber needle]

its the last shard i need i'm not gonna find it myself

[woeful gale]

best act 1 boss?

[meager nexus]

The atmosphere is top notch but what we have in the atmosphere is a spooky turd

[coral quartz]

it respawns if you walk in and out of room

[terse stone]

which sucks because there’s already a better massive moss charger known as bell beast

[dry echo]

ohhh ic thanksss

[coral quartz]

i wouldnt recommend it, atk speed is too slow imo

[spiral pasture]

2 million fast travel trips to areas you already collected the shard in

[crimson drift]

Darn, is someone having a different opinion that hard to believe

[cloud kraken]

ngl mmc is a more fun fight than unraveled imo

[meager nexus]

Also it had to be resistant to pogo cuz they knew it will just trivialise the fight further

[hoary mica]

i wouldnt call it bad but i do think its the worst crest, the hitboxes are the most awkward out of any and the low attack speed makes fights last longer

[amber needle]

48 minutes is insane

how much of it is yapping

[stiff briar]

big flea is a more fun fight

[craggy fjord]

for every bad thing reaper has, i feel like its pogo is nice

[tight viper]

The boss is more that just the Conductor shell being puppeted, Hornet is fighting the arena itself and even states she could never truly kill the pain in that pit

[tawny palm]

ok shit nyleth might be hard

[meager nexus]

This might be a hot take but fourth chorus

[tidal bone]

It's a toss up between Lace, last judge and Phantom to me personally

[tawny palm]

i love when my pogo takes so much time and it pulls me down

[wind marsh]

I believe it’s showing the route to each one as well

[tight viper]

Phantom

[amber needle]

could easily do it without the yapping

[hoary mica]

widow

[cloud kraken]

yea nyleth is pretty tough, but if you beat seth you can beat her

[wind marsh]

Maybe

[coral quartz]

yeah but you arent really getting that many pogo opportunities with last judge

[tawny palm]

seth wasn't difficult whatsoever

[meager nexus]

Bro is eating the atmosphere thing up 🥀🥀

[craggy fjord]

bleh

[ornate torrent]

seth is sort of hard, but nyleth is one of the easiest bosses in the game

[craggy fjord]

maybe i should just use wanderer and be patient

[tight viper]

I won’t deny that, my tier lists are based on everything about the boss fight, not just how fun or difficult it is

[craggy fjord]

that attack where she does the circle thing is kinda evil

[cloud kraken]

ok damn, seth kicked my face in hard when I fought him, and that was after I got the true ending lol...

[meager nexus]

Witch pogo is so cool

[tawny palm]

why am i always the opposite of yall 😭 i struggle on what yall find easy and vice versa

[amber needle]

maybe instead its time for me to take a break LMAO

[hoary mica]

best pogo in the game

[craggy fjord]

dont show me it

[meager nexus]

Why you barely just started playing

[ornate torrent]

bro probably first tried karmelita 😭

[amber needle]

(a solid chunk of that was against fucking groal)

[craggy fjord]

i dont wanna see it till after i get it

[cloud kraken]

I'm more of a shaman pogo sorta person tbh

[paper galleon]

well guys just lost my 4th steel soul save

[tawdry sierra]

Garama

[tawny palm]

haven't tried her yet

will update u on what happens 😭

[coral quartz]

well if its based on everything then i feel like you should be considering the actual gameplay of the boss more. it feels like you have it in A-tier just bc of the atmosphere, without considering everything like you're saying

[hoary mica]

i go #1 witch #2 beast #3 hunter

[coral quartz]

RIP it happens, what got you

[craggy fjord]

i just dont like beast crest im sorry

[paper galleon]

fucking boss on the way to wormways 😭 idk why i even tried to kill it

[amber needle]

unravelled is an ass boss i'm gonna be real, atmosphere or not

[craggy fjord]

i didnt mean to reply to you wth

[tawny palm]

beast crest is the best solely because of GARAMA 👿

[craggy fjord]

how do i taunt

[cloud kraken]

I would be mean at you for shaman slander but you put beast pogo in #2 that's based

[amber needle]

whatever your challenge keybind is

[ornate torrent]

personally my pogo ranks are:

1. hunter
2. wanderer (3&4 are roughly as good)
3. witch
4. shaman
5. beast (quite useful but it's not really a pogo, i placed it low because of the delay)
6. reaper (sorry the delay and offset make it unusable)
7. architect (worst pogo ofc)

[tawny palm]

right joystick if on controller

[tight viper]

I did talk about the gameplay, I think the boss is fun to fight against. The pogo sound of the helmet is fun and the spears are awesome. Volt Vessels especially make it a solid fight

[woeful gale]

lace was easiest shit ever, phamton idk i fought her too late

[coral quartz]

hubris will be the death of us all. it's ok! you're learning with every attempt

[paper galleon]

total of like 10 hours wasted tho lol

[hoary mica]

not really a pogo??

[ornate torrent]

beast pogo is more similar to clawline than any other pogo

[craggy fjord]

guys is it bad that i love rushing down in this game

[tidal bone]

Yeah? I did it first try. Doesn't make it not really cool

[cloud kraken]

for me... conchflies

[hoary mica]

idk its alright i guess but it doesnt feel nearly as satisfying to use

[coral quartz]

you havent seen wasted time until you lost one in Act 3. trust me beating this game steel soul requires PATIENCE

[tight viper]

IMO the AoE on Reaper deserves a lot of credit, some pogo skips are only possible with pogos like that

[tawny palm]

i wanna fight khann but i first have to beat raging dumbfly

[meager nexus]

Architect pogo is cool 🥀

[hoary mica]

arguably that would make it the most versatile of any of them, it can go sideways at short range and then works as a diagonal attack from longer ranges

[paper galleon]

lol fair enough

[woeful gale]

Idk i felt like she was underwhelming tbh

[ornate torrent]

oh the skips are quite good, but generally i dont like it

[hoary mica]

reaper pogo is definitely the best thing going for it, very easy to land

[craggy fjord]

guys what do we think about wanderer dash attack?

[hybrid meadow]

I just beat beast chapel and I laughed like a maniac for 5 minutes

[tawny palm]

epic

[hoary mica]

it has the swag factor im a fan

[craggy fjord]

YES

THANK YOU

[tidal bone]

That's completely fair! Lace 2 is way better anyways

[ornate torrent]

it's very versatile but sometimes in combat you want a mostly vertical pogo; also its held back by the delay

[cloud kraken]

architect's nail stuff is cool, I just wish the crest wasn't nyquil...

[craggy fjord]

what about its pogo

[tight viper]

Fair enough, it’s objectively quite slow

[tawny palm]

my baby

[ornate torrent]

i think the fact you can charge it is cool but it's almost impossible to hit lmao

[hybrid meadow]

Anyone else feel like a warrior around your 14th hour

[cloud kraken]

you killed huntress

[meager nexus]

Is ts steal soul exclusive

[hoary mica]

idk i think people just use it because its the most hollow knight feeling crest its very vanilla save for the dash attack

[tawny palm]

act 3

[ornate torrent]

you get it if you do act 3 without completing the broodfeast wish

[coral quartz]

imma stop beating you up abt this bc at the end of the day it's ur opinion, so this'll be the last thing i respond to. but like i dont think complimenting the sound design = liking the gameplay, and also idk whats so cool abt the spears they just go up and down, and also you didnt acknowledge the dash and the inconsistent projectiles

[regal isle]

wait when does she appear?

[grizzled stratus]

new pb (i hate high halls arena)

[craggy fjord]

at first it felt like it had like no fucking range ngl

[ornate torrent]

most people use it because it's super broken, basically quick slash but somehow quicker

[hoary mica]

if you dont do the huntress quest and then enter act 3

[thick steppe]

will i live to see hollow knight 3

[cloud kraken]

act 3 if you don't complete huntress' quest

[zenith thunder]

its not dark or grey enough

[regal isle]

you can skip her wish???

[tawny palm]

wait if i do the quest in act 2 runt doesn't appear?

[ornate torrent]

her wish is just for a tool, you don't need to do it

[hoary mica]

thats what i mean, it feels like a hollow knight quick slash build. basically the same pogo and regular attacks

[regal isle]

you still get it by talking to runt tho right?

[hoary mica]

yeah because huntress's quest is to get food for her children so they dont eat her. if you dont do the quest they eat her

[coral quartz]

fun fact the length of the hitbox is abt the same (if not longer) than the hunter's crest, it's just the width of the hitbox thats smaller

[ornate torrent]

true i suppose

[tawny palm]

well im glad i ignored her because runt is cool

[cloud kraken]

don't worry, lifespans have been increasing exponentially ever since 2024, you'll be here long enough to watch the moon escape our orbit

[ornate torrent]

the length is a little bit shorter iirc

[tight viper]

No worries, didn’t see it as an attack or anything I just enjoy talking about why I like things others feel differently about. Dash is fun sounding and also just fun in general is what I meant is all, hit it from the front, pogo over and hit again before it drops down

[craggy fjord]

also theres this weird tech thing where you can do your standing attack while jumping and then do a jumping neutral attack

i think its cuz its so fast

[coral quartz]

it looked longer to me when i saw the side by side, but i dont know the actual pixel data so my eyes could just be playing tricks on me

[cloud kraken]

tbh, ik it's around the same length... but it always feels so stubby...

[livid wolf]

Attempt 66 and 18th time being here. Will it end?

[tidal bone]

I was just reminded of this. But I wish there were more songs you could learn on the needolin. Like the song you play for shakra's quest

[coral quartz]

you could uh... just do it later?

[craggy fjord]

ocarina of time....

[livid wolf]

NO

[grave forum]

Nice

[regal isle]

took me 2 tries to do this what are you running?

[tidal bone]

Yes, please

[livid wolf]

Lies

[nocturne grail]

Is there an image like this but for the knight lmao

[livid wolf]

I'm gonna do this attempt hold up

[little mango]

omg it's silksong

[craggy fjord]

||if quirrel was still alive do you think he would get a game||

[peak musk]

Grimm x Trobbio 300 chapter slowburn when

[regal isle]

i forgot how many tries but it was no more than 5. i was going wanderers crest sting shard and cross stitch

[nocturne grail]

Fr

[tight viper]

Could get a prequel

[little mango]

Overall, what are your opinions about the Combat System?

[regal isle]

yea

[cloud kraken]

the slowburn is the nightmare heart

[tight viper]

Fun and creative

[tidal bone]

Of Silksong? It's incredible

[steel veldt]

Fantastic except the tool deply input

[peak musk]

Most likely not.

Till now, protagonist since to be extremely powerful and have a relation to higher beings, but considering the next games are going to be disconnected of the main storyline it's possible.

[hollow maple]

Really damn good

[full pebble]

Does using ventricas break the courier's rasher

[craggy fjord]

luckily i was able to chill with him AND i didnt see his dead body so im not too sad...that much

[cedar patio]

hello chat

[regal isle]

i like the fluidity and the experimentation you can do (mage builds, tool builds, nail builds etc)

[cloud kraken]

I like it except for when the game occasionally eats in input

[coral quartz]

you're making it way harder on yourself than you need to. im guessing you only have 6-7 health, 3-4 spool (6-8 spool fragments), and +2 nail?

[woeful gale]

hi

[regal isle]

s-six seven?

[terse stone]

much more interesting the hollow knight’s imo, I love the build variety despite there being less slots for “charms”

[steel veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6-7-six-seven-sixty-seven-doctor-david-livesey-gif-16477282308702070447

[cedar patio]

6️⃣ 7️⃣

[coral quartz]

you're all going to hell

[little mango]

I like the systems, but, i really have some critics to the Crest Memories, especially on some crests.. (Beast)

[dawn flare]

Bro.... the enemies in Pharloom are livin' the dream life fr fr

[steel veldt]

Plus tools lowkey buy and large do more than charms

[craggy fjord]

PERISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE MIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OF MY BLADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hollow maple]

chat thats the build I had for beating Lost Lace 😭

[terse stone]

Like imagine if hollow knight had this crest system to make certain charms actually worth using

[coral quartz]

...did you play the game???

[full pebble]

GUYS does using ventricas break the courier rasher

[cloud kraken]

if they swapped one of beast's yellows for a blue it'd be so much better

[hollow maple]

yeah

[regal isle]

i think theres smt secret abt crests. i was modding silksong today and got this mod that let me unlock everything (weavers will) and for each crest there was a new vesticrest slot for silk skills? it was really weird but super interesting

[coral quartz]

yes but also why would you i dont think theres one that takes you near the end of the route

[shy kettle]

Ok guys i need suggestions on a tool that is offensive and helps deal high damage to a lot if bosses in this game

[regal isle]

trobbiioooooo

[tight viper]

Milk? That’s gonna be a chunky soap

[little mango]

can you send me this mod on DM?

[flint cave]

Threefold Pin or Tacks are pretty good for most bosses

[steel veldt]

Love this guy, he plays cool video games like silksong

[regal isle]

sting shard, volt vessels, silkshot (mount fay)

[cloud kraken]

tacks or cogflies are the highest dps options

[little mango]

i wanna try it on future runs

[tidal bone]

Tacks

[tidal ruin]

Zote could beat goku

[craggy fjord]

its pretty cool that hornet is able to trap her shade or what i assume that is anyway (please dont spoil me)

[tidal bone]

Tacks will save you

[terse stone]

that being said something like witches crest would not work at all in HK due to your heal being much more limited

[bronze shale]

In his dreams maybe.

[shy kettle]

Sting shards and volt vessels i have down. Tacks im not 100 on. I know theyre good but the damage numbers dont seem as potential on paper

[candid dock]

[tidal ruin]

Thats actually batman, he just likes to watch hornet die but immediately gets silked upon hornets death and never learns his lesson

[terse stone]

like imagine trying to heal with something like winged Nosk 😭

[tidal bone]

You probably shouldn't be here if you don't want spoilers but cheers I guess!

[cloud kraken]

I think you could double jump up to winged nosk right?

[light swan]

you can definitely heal against winged nosk lol i can think of so many different opportunities

[dawn flare]

🧢

[terse stone]

you can’t heal mid air in HK

[tidal ruin]

Also its not too spoilery to say its just a silk cocoon, it has no story importance and is never emphasized at any point

[light swan]

oh wait are you talking about grounded heals only

[terse stone]

I’m talking about a hypothetical witch crest in HK

[light swan]

because that changes a LOT lol

[cloud kraken]

oh I thought we meant like, a direct translation of witch heal

[solemn lotus]

You can the throw the flea brew after it’s empty

[woeful gale]

how dare you

[woeful gale]

ok

[cyan terrace]

how about 1k?

[regal isle]

gpz slams comp goku lets be real

[light swan]

yea same, witch is not functional if it was grounded

[hollow maple]

Chat do you think Hollow Knight 3 would be a game centered around Lace?

[dawn flare]

im sowwy

[regal isle]

no its gonna be about pablo

[tidal ruin]

Gpz is a little overkill, base zote is enough

[light swan]

yes

Hollow Knight: Lacelight
lace explores a kingdom (maybe ze’mer’s old kingdom) already taken over by the darkness and has to learn the new magic of the everbloom to take back the kingdom and free the people from what happened to her
her 2nd arena has white flowers on it for a reason
(Repost)

[shy kettle]

Canon pilby ending where he leaves pharloom

[thin horizon]

You ever realize the bell eater spews acid and that the bell beast has a tough shell
Implying more that it's the predator of bell beasts

[mental magnet]

am I living under a rock? who tf is pablo

[digital wave]

i don't really wanna play as lace tho

[candid dock]

this is why the fans dont write the games

[regal isle]

volatile zoteling 🙊

[ashen pike]

non-infected croissant

[proven rivet]

Is there anything to do in ||the Surface||?

[terse stone]

genuinely love the crest system in Silksong so much, it changes a lot on what is viable between each crest, in HK there really is only 1 or two “best” builds

[merry wing]

So I first-tried ||Grand Mother Silk|| while high. Was it supposed to be that easy?

[light swan]

i wrote that with 2 seconds up my ass yesterday, if i had a couple years i could whip something up :(

[dawn flare]

I wanna be punished by Hornet 😫🤤

[ivory plinth]

i dont know if i have the will to fight lost garmond, will he be ok? only yes or no

[neon adder]

Chat, give it to me straight
||What are the chances we get a DLC where we can somehow explore pre-pollution Hunter’s March, Ducts, Bilewater, Verdania, Karak, Blasted Steps, or any combination of them||

[raven tinsel]

I don’t want to play as Lace or Quirrel either. I’d love a game where you play as Grimmchild, and some sort of side content (DLC) where I can be the Hollow Knight.

[neon adder]

Dude

[bronze shale]

High middling.

[raven tinsel]

Snail shaman would be cool too

[light swan]

like 10% chance hopefully more

[normal token]

Journal entry for the bugs, memento (needolin at the small cave) and come back later for another quest (you'll have a shortcut)

[neon adder]

I am getting conflicted answers

[ivory plinth]

id like to play as sherma

[severe prism]

Finally beat ||The Unraveled||

[ashen pike]

Styx........are you there?

[light swan]

i’m trusting cherry to surprise us but i won’t bet on it

[hollow maple]

||GMS|| is really damn easy, I don't think too many people would be suprised if you were to do it first try

[terse stone]

But I’ve seen so much variety in tool builds

[graceful spindle]

What does fourth chorus even give

[proven rivet]

Alright thank you (i got everything except the quest part, I am going to have to see that later)

[open dirge]

im starving when will people make more ss boss mods

[coral quartz]

dats fine

[livid wolf]

Bragging rights

[neon adder]

I beat her like 3rd try

[thin horizon]

12.5%
So 50% and I like those odds

[graceful spindle]

Huh?

[hollow maple]

Same, the boss is honestly too easy

[light swan]

let’s you leave far fields, so essentially the float if you don’t skip it

[neon adder]

A warm fuzzy feeling

[terse stone]

it’s still a pretty new game all things considered, it’ll happen eventually

[tidal ruin]

I feel like if there's gonna be a new HK game it should either follow a completely new character or a character we've already played (most likely hornet, tk doesn't have that much going on)

[coral quartz]

you should uh... get used to bosses not giving anything
this isnt hollow knight

[livid wolf]

You get to tell people you beat it

[graceful spindle]

Oh

It isn't that hard tbh

[neon adder]

I don’t think she’s supposed to be that hard
||I believe that Lace is kind of intended to be the final boss any way you slice it||

[crystal ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHkFDl9iRf8

[bronze shale]

That's the lava.

[open dirge]

what should i do

[terse stone]

I think something completely isolated from the pale king could be interesting

[neon adder]

2 warm fuzzy feelings

[proven rivet]

just got her in I don't know how many tries because I didn't have good tools at the time (got cogfly later) and pretty much no Needle upgrades

[wind marsh]

It’s gonna be Seth trust

[coarse leaf]

Hey so I just got the reaper crest and am using it a bit, is it better than the starting crest?

[light swan]

i do 100% think next game will be something along the lines of lacelight

[livid wolf]

Ur cloth is warm

[neon adder]

I would personally like to explore the City of Steel as just like, a regular guy

[tidal ruin]

Yesn't

[slim thorn]

hitting with wifi

[neon adder]

3 warm fuzzy feelings

[wind marsh]

All crests give way to new playstyles so there isn’t a definite “better crest”

[crystal ledge]

no its gonna be white knight cuz it would match the theme and lace is called that multiple times

[light swan]

use whatever fits your playstyle, “better” or not simply depends on how good you are with it or how much you like it

[digital wave]

i feel like a regular guy would meet their end quick

[hollow maple]

tf?

[wind marsh]

Except for ||Architect||

[crystal ledge]

bluetooth clawline

[neon adder]

Which needle upgrade gives your needle Bluetooth

[coarse leaf]

Ah ok

[terse stone]

because you don’t have magic you can’t heal on the go, you have to manually tend to your wounds at a bench

[livid wolf]

A time machine

[coarse leaf]

I def like the down ward attack more on the reaper crest at least

[crystal ledge]

architect or shaman if u prefer silk skills

[cold token]

Something tells me that the underworks aren't very holy

[neon adder]

True, you have to do 15 minute long minigame for each mask of damage you’ve taken

[crystal ledge]

both equally broken probably

[ivory plinth]

GARMOND NOOOOOO

[brittle elbow]

same

[neon adder]

[terse stone]

Freaks, all of you

[tidal ruin]

I don't even know where lace would end up going, she doesn't have any connections outside pharloom and being forced out of pharloom might feel repetitive since thats how hornet left hallownest

[light swan]

we should’ve rode zaza when fighting garmond ngl

[wind marsh]

True but Architect has the lifeblood thing and I think that makes it better than Shaman

[dusky sundial]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/EjL0Ae5xH0Q

[ivory plinth]

im legit crying bro

[livid wolf]

HOLY SHIT I FINALLY DID IT AFTER ONLY 66 ATTEMPTS

[candid dock]

66 is crazy

[sour sail]

probably following hornet around

[crystal ledge]

its not that good is it?

[livid wolf]

I only need 2 more now

[dusky sundial]

If you have the piton you can hang on the wall and they can't reach you

[little mango]

i think that Yellow tools don't have some love, there are only a few useful for combat or exploration. That being said.................................. compass best tool

[light swan]

i can totally see her willingly leaving for stuff related to the void, especially since she has nothing left to do in pharloom cuz hornet and gms likely are gone

[digital wave]

if only you failed once more..

[hollow maple]

She wouldn't have to be forced out of Pharloom

[meager nexus]

Only if you waited for one more attempt

[bronze shale]

What other game styles would go well in the HK setting, given that both of the existing ones have been metroidvanias?

[neon adder]

Catharsis

[livid wolf]

I did it with no NPC help 🥀

[crystal ledge]

its not that hard bro what do u have an unupgraded needle

[wind marsh]

The sheer fact you don’t need to heal makes it so that the longer the battle goes on the more likely chances you have to win cause you’re gaining hp

[neon adder]

A Card Game, perhaps

[livid wolf]

Yes

[dawn flare]

Imagine expressing your feelings in the big 25

[terse stone]

she could leave in order to find purpose yeah

[digital wave]

it IS hard let people have this

[crystal ledge]

mmm fair

[candid dock]

It's still not that bad 😭 over 15 is insane

[light swan]

yea, taking what she learnt from hornet

[crystal ledge]

WHY

[tidal ruin]

Plus, if its just lace we'd end up following, there wouldn't be much room to learn more about her since we know a lot more already than we did about hornet before silksong

[cedar patio]

does he know

[light swan]

she still has such a character arc to go through and hornet was just the catalyst that starts it

[livid wolf]

I got only the free one

[tawdry sierra]

Should've been 67 attempts

[crystal ledge]

thats what im doin

[flat phoenix]

still needle2 then, but yea nice stuff

[light swan]

we don’t have to learn more about her backstory, who she becomes + the world around her can pull its own weight

[crystal ledge]

the first 2 pale oils are both easily accessible rn except couriers rasher

[tidal ruin]

Lace's is a lot more subtle imo but it definitely is there

[neon adder]

Truth

[wind marsh]

It also helps a lot on runbacks like I died once to Groal (I didn’t find the secret bench) and said fuck doing all that again and proceeded to use Architect

[light swan]

yea it’s there but it’s not completely finished

[noble jolt]

is it possible to get needle strike without double jump, harpoon or cloak?

[neon adder]

Seriously, if we get a 3rd game it should revolve around someone new

[light swan]

she accepts her humanity at the end of the game she’s yet to do anything else about her newfound purpose

[mental magnet]

mister mushroom game 🗣️

[cedar patio]

lace is a cool character but she should not have been the final boss

[hollow maple]

I would kill for a 3rd game where you play as Elderbug

[livid wolf]

It should revolve around me cause I'm a pro player

[crystal ledge]

okay u have a point, ngl i wish i could easily overdose with shaman cuz oh my GOD the silk skills would go crazy

[brittle elbow]

pablo

[dusky sundial]

Pablo, for example

[wind marsh]

Maybe someone who isn’t born from Higher beings?

[flat phoenix]

uhh, you'd probably need sharpdart and/or beast crest for some tricks for that, but I can't say I've tried

[neon adder]

I take it back, it should revolve around Mr. Mushroom

[tidal ruin]

New character with ties/references to silk/void/other lore elements

Maybe a distant prequel where we play while wyrms weren't extinct

[terse stone]

pretty bug lady….. WITH A GUN

[brittle elbow]

pablo and he's a

villain

coz we been playing a good guy in forever

[severe timber]

Grimble game

[crystal ledge]

like found lace :D

[dusky sundial]

I really hope the devs add Pablo to some future game, meme magic is fucking real

[wet pollen]

how can i get back to the choral chambers without having to go through all the platforming again? or do i have to

[light swan]

oh man i dont like future game speculation lol had bad experiences every time it’s happened

[livid wolf]

I want to play as bell beast

[mental magnet]

craw game?

[digital wave]

game focused on the ancient civilisation anyone?

[light swan]

let’s just wait for the next trailer

[wind marsh]

It technically it possible but probably not worth it since it requires going to Wormways and not sitting on any bench for the entire time

[neon adder]

Imma be honest a Metroidvania where your whole move kit revolves around gun recoil would be very fun

[hollow maple]

Oh we could have a game that takes place in a time where either Hallownest or Pharloom were still strong kingdoms

[cedar patio]

3 fights and a recolor is some shit I'd expect from world of warcraft

[outer sonnet]

Will Silksong have a sequel?

[crystal ledge]

well its a lot easier to just drop than do the parkour in the first place

[light swan]

i’m low-key hoping for zemer everbloom stuff but that’s just me

[dawn flare]

Cool status

[flat phoenix]

maybe in like 12 years

[crystal ledge]

i know thats why i said "easily"

[light swan]

crowsworn already exists

[tidal ruin]

I don't even think tc's next full game will be an HK game, and there's a chance silksong might even be all we get perjod

[wet pollen]

alr

[livid wolf]

Give or take 2045

[terse stone]

Lmao yeah

[mental magnet]

CRAW

[neon adder]

You can just float down

[wet pollen]

ty

[cedar patio]

ikr

[neon adder]

Fair
I’d be down for something new

[dusky sundial]

40 YEARS AGO
BEFORE HALLOWNEST
BEFORE PHARLOOM

THERE WAS

PABLO

[terse stone]

I wanna see what else they can do tbh

[wind marsh]

Yeah if you could overdose on any crest easily that I will agree with you and say the rankings on the crests would be pretty different

[peak musk]

Pablo's adventure.

[cedar patio]

I'm assuming the next character we get is gonna be heavier/do more damage

[crystal ledge]

dm me an invite to the gim troupe i want in (not in the server though thats against the rules)

[hollow maple]

OH WAIT

WHAT IF HE HAD A GAME WITH PABLO THAT HAD HIM RULING HIS OWN KINGDOM

[turbid kite]

WHY IS MISTER MUSHROOM HERE

[flat phoenix]

no, we must go even faster

[dusky sundial]

Pablonest

[hollow maple]

Why would he not?

[wind marsh]

Ruling a kingdom would be quite interesting for a new hk game and watching it descend into ruin instead of seeing it already in ruin

[tidal ruin]

I do too, but after working on it for 12+ years (+dlc) I wouldn't put it past them to try something new, and I'll definitely be copping if its my kinda game

[crimson imp]

every enemy is triple damage

[crystal ledge]

i wanna play as pale king where his main attack is stabbing the enemies with his fork-head

[ashen pike]

bluetooth

[turbid kite]

mushroom jumpscare

[terse stone]

I’d love to see them tackle a rougelike

[flat phoenix]

I already do barbed bracelet permanently on, so quad dmg is regular. Gotta do better than that

[dusky sundial]

"Raise taxes: yes or no"

Both answers are wrong, anarchy follows

[cedar patio]

the next mc will be cloth

[crimson imp]

which for you would mean sextouple damage ig

[terse stone]

team cherry rougelike would go so hard

[tidal ruin]

The correct answer is remove taxes and make all governments run on hopes and dreams

[wind marsh]

Not unless you got a very specific item from 3 chapters ago that lets you call in a favor from another kingdom for money

[dusky sundial]

Hey you can't say sex on this server

[candid dock]

No he's cooking

[cold falcon]

Next game has 3 currencies

[peak musk]

The last two Characters we have played are Pale beings with Soul/SilkSoul powers so...

What kind of nature would Pablo Have...
Green?
Volt
Architect
Dream
Reproduction
Nightmare's

[wind marsh]

Nightmare could be interesting

[tidal ruin]

Who even is Pablo

[terse stone]

so is this a kingdom management game instead of a metroidvania

[dusky sundial]

The knight was black
Hornet is red
Pablo is Pablo

[crystal ledge]

NIGHTMARE PROTAG

[dusky sundial]

HOW DARE YOU ASK SUCH A HERETICAL QUESTION

[ionic junco]

honestly a management game in the hk style would be so cool

[tidal ruin]

A game revolving around the grimm troupe would be kinda cool

[tawdry sierra]

Did they patch the groal skip

[peak musk]

Hunger
Copper Plates
Eggs

[wind marsh]

Hmmm you make a great point how would one blend kingdom management and metriodvania

[digital wave]

PLEASE NO

[crystal ledge]

give me an invite to the gim troupe in dms please i want in

[sour sail]

more grimm like bosses i like the sound of that

[wind marsh]

Honestly they shouldn’t cause it’s funny

[crystal ledge]

he is pablo

[cold falcon]

The Groal run back was fun I don’t know what people are complaining about

[dusky sundial]

Pablo is meme magic

[tidal ruin]

Why is that a banger design though

[peak musk]

He is green, so Green Powers could be, spiky vines, acid spit, explosive seeds

[hollow maple]

cuz its pablo

[terse stone]

They should give the 3rd protagonist a gun

[grave forum]

I'm scared to try steel soul

[tawdry sierra]

I heard that the groal skip was patched

I havent checked it myself

[crystal ledge]

pablo.

[sour sail]

bald

[tidal ruin]

You should be

[dusky sundial]

Hornet was equally
If not more bald

[little mango]

bro ||Karmelita's theme|| rivals with Troupe Master and Nightmare King

[steel ibex]

Anyone else think it’s really funny how gms just assigned her least favorite daughter to just dump trash and poop into bilewater

[sour sail]

atleast she has horns

[cold falcon]

Steel soul equip fractured mask and everytime it breaks you reset

[dusky sundial]

Obligatory joke

[tidal ruin]

Point to the hair

[sour sail]

-# i dont get it

[cold falcon]

If you want to play safe

[terse stone]

pulling up to desecrated mothfly with my Glock

[digital wave]

this is why I don't like tc letting you save and quit

[grave forum]

What are some difficult parts I should be careful for

[tidal ruin]

All

[crystal ledge]

is fourth chorus even a required boss

[digital wave]

you can't have honour in a skill based system

[grave forum]

welp

[sour sail]

uhh the horns count

[slim thorn]

did the clawline parry me through?

[light swan]

this but whole game

[hollow maple]

I think so?

[dusky sundial]

Check your DMs

[slim thorn]

no

[terse stone]

oh the platforming could get so interesting lmao

[neon adder]

You get it

[thick steppe]

fuck my chungus life

[light swan]

is the video slowed for you guys why is it slowed for me

[peak musk]

Imagine you are a member of the troupe that escape the influence of the scarlet heart and is now trying to destroy the Grimm Troupe, for that he will have to travel to 5 little Towns to recolect one of the "Tears of Raingod" to use them all and extinguish the Nightmare Heart.

[cold falcon]

Bosses don’t even give percentages really

[crystal ledge]

cant u get out of far right far fields though

without chorus i mean

[upbeat notch]

Hi I cant seem to find the last spool frag 17/18, checked every location, all the shops. Only thing I cant check sherma and flea caravan. Anyone also has the same problem, is it a bug?

[crystal ledge]

well flea caravan does have a spool frag

[near pumice]

She 18?

[crystal ledge]

yeah through the secret path in the bellway u can skip em

[digital wave]

there is a patch coming for the flea caravan frag being locked I think

[upbeat notch]

kk ty

[near pumice]

Is she tho

[peak musk]

Wait, there are only 18? Not 20?

[near pumice]

17 ain’t right she gotta be 18

[viscid ledge]

How far in?

[digital wave]

u get 9 additional silk bars in total

[halcyon charm]

Me whenever I try to 100% steel soul after hour 2 of playing

[thick steppe]

widow

[viscid ledge]

Yes, 18 equates to 9 bars which doubles your original one

[viscid ledge]

That’s not too bad, go on! I could make you feel better, but at my expense

[near pumice]

At least you died at an actual boss not some random shithead

[mortal obsidian]

Hey guys

[near pumice]

She 18?

[halcyon charm]

Apparently that’s enough to bind twice
I thought you started with 10 spools 😭

[peak musk]

Oh, I thought we had 10 originally.
But that means each silk skills wastes almost half of your silk.
Damn, of course people aren't using silk skills in this game

[digital wave]

trying to get that one flea in shellwood killed me once 💔

[viscid ledge]

They take 4 yes
This is so that base silk regeneration with 3 hearts needs tools to work as you’d think
You j ow charge a skill passively requires tools

[dawn flare]

Yo 👋🏿

[mortal obsidian]

It was for a reason at least

[mortal obsidian]

Heya! How you doing?

[tawny palm]

chat do i go for khann or karmelita now

[dawn flare]

Pretty good, just silking it, ya know

[peak musk]

Oh thinking like that explains it more

[halcyon charm]

Meanwhile this mf was my first steel soul death

[tawny palm]

baby😔

[thin horizon]

WHY THE FUCK IS FIRST SINNER JUST BULLET HELL
SHE USES TWO FUCKING ATTACKS AT ONCE

[hollow maple]

Khann is easier but is a lot more difficult to get to

[peak musk]

Maybe

[soft wing]

I’m doing the speedrun achievement and just beat cogwork dancers at 1hr 57 minutes.

[mortal obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-silksong-dance-hornet-dance-hornet-silksong-gif-3654151901745923854

[peak musk]

Git gud.

joking, I recommend cross stitch as your spell in this fight, is relatively easy to use against her.

[viscid ledge]

Thas pretty good, continue you have plenty of time to spare !!!

[digital wave]

keep it up!!

[tawny palm]

i haven't beaten raging assfly yet so i gotta do a boss and almost 40 waves of enemies to reach him 😭 imma just do karmelita for now

[left hedge]

khann

[soft wing]

I’m breaking for tonight, I’ll update for tmr :))

[dawn flare]

Ehh I like her without the cloak

[dense sun]

QoL update Idea:

Npc that converts shards to beads

And vice versa

[near pumice]

Khan is a joke fr

[mortal obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-silk-issue-silk-issue-gif-15588893687607418966

[halcyon charm]

The only 3 achievements I need left are the steel soul achievements + the 30 hour 100%

[left hedge]

trust me you really want to save karmelita for last

[near pumice]

Seth > Nyleth

[noble jolt]

https://youtu.be/3BEdMYw6Zqo?si=E5ufZQEymjDEREEf

[wet vessel]

guys

[viscid ledge]

I just wanna share a tip, but volt filament silk spear one shots the mini conchflies in phase 2

[wet vessel]

i beat gms first try

[near pumice]

Then?

[tawny palm]

hmmmmmm

[noble jolt]

neat

[digital wave]

my impatient ahh trying to do all in one save and failing miserably

[wet vessel]

needle only?

[halcyon charm]

Nah that’s so real 😭 🙏

[noble jolt]

wym then

[near pumice]

More lore then there seems?

[lusty arrow]

Silksong stopped being enjoyable after ||Act 2||

[halcyon charm]

I wanted to do the cursed ending on steel soul but I kept dying before I could even get to the citadel

[noble jolt]

Close enough

[viscid ledge]

It’s worth it if you prepare actually
100% under 30 has a lot of leeway so you don’t have to worry about going mega fast

[near pumice]

No it’s not

[dusky sundial]

Void is too fucking tanky

[dawn flare]

Guys, I've been stuck at the slab for hours now

[noble jolt]

There's actually a third act, but it's a little hidden so I understand how you didn't know about it

[thick steppe]

??

[digital wave]

tbf it'd be doable if my navigation didn't suck

[peak musk]

That's peak, but converting beads to shards is kinda already a thing

[digital wave]

the struggle is real

[halcyon charm]

Nah for me it was more enjoyable

[viscid ledge]

ik it sounds lame, but you could use a navigation map online
I just didn’t bother memorizing everything

[lusty arrow]

Act 3 is exactly what I'm referring to

[lusty arrow]

Real

[dawn flare]

Playing with one hand is really difficult

[golden turret]

Ngl I HATE that the high halls arena is mandatory

[soft wing]

I really enjoyed act 3, but the void buffing enemies was kinda pmo.

[granite lantern]

um so i might have glitched silksong just a little (look at hp)

[halcyon charm]

Hell nah

[soft wing]

Are you immortal?

[noble jolt]

oh, act 3? I love that one! It has some of my favourite moments in the entire game

[dense sun]

True. Shard bundle buying, forgot it existed

[toxic horizon]

No

[peak musk]

Act 4 will be 30 hours of Hornet and Lace Slowburn trying to rebuild Pharloom

[dusky sundial]

Nice, you broke it

[granite lantern]

no clue i took it was divine intervention on my steel soul run and didnt chance it

[golden turret]

Hmm, seems fine to me-

[halcyon charm]

We lowkey need that

[lusty arrow]

Putting new, harder arenas right where the old ones were is just so lazy and unfun just my opinion

[halcyon charm]

Then we can finally see hornet exit through the nameless town

[digital wave]

fanfics will have to do

[granite lantern]

very fine

[slim orbit]

i mean, for 50 rosaries you get 60 shards

[soft wing]

Don’t take chances. You should probably go to a bench

[noble jolt]

eh I personally think it was a fun remix, but it's not like the new arena stuff is a large chunk of anyways

[toxic horizon]

Its okay to be wrong

[golden turret]

You forgot the clawmaidens...

[peak musk]

Primal crows when

[granite lantern]

i didnt i just saved and quit so it took me back to a bench to heal

[soft wing]

Those crow guys are so overrated for their difficulty

[soft wing]

Ah, ok.

[real leaf]

what are bottom enemies i never seen them in greymoor

[untold dock]

You know, was thinking of what they could do for DLC and one of my thoughts was "campaign that shows what the hollow knight has been up to" and then I immediately realized that probably wouldn't work because he's. well. giant.

[slim orbit]

Figments of Imagination

[slim orbit]

wym

[halcyon charm]

The hollow knight is still in the black egg temple

[toxic horizon]

Yeah and then they would have to make a new game because he doesnt fit in the current areas

[digital wave]

he breaks out in Embrace the Void ending

[naive torrent]

guys i'm so hyped i just got to true final boss

[slim orbit]

the hollow knight is resting dawg, dream no more freed him and ghost from that shit

[odd sedge]

Yeah, and a prequel where they are still small would be better, but playing the same map of Hollow Knight with some additional content just doesn't seem to be fun

[toxic horizon]

He leaves after godmaster endings, which are almost guaranteed to be canon

[soft wing]

||Lost Lace?||

[peak musk]

NGL.

Moorwing nerf was justified

[naive torrent]

i died to it within like a minute but still super happy

[halcyon charm]

I thought that was the pilgrims in the ending

[granite lantern]

||from what i can tell it happened cause i killed seth at the same time he hit me for my last mask so the seth death cutscene overrode my own death||

[naive torrent]

yuh

[slim orbit]

that's just you guys headcanon bro 💔 embrace the void is not the confirmed canon ending

[soft wing]

Good luck dude, she’s pretty difficult.

[naive torrent]

embrace the void literally cannot be, it would have to be delicate flower

[digital wave]

did we play the same game twin?

[toxic horizon]

Hornet is outside of black egg during the cutscene, and THK just walks out

[slim orbit]

hes

[noble jolt]

well, it's either that or dream no more.

(except not actually because dream no more has no explanation for the shade Lord)

[toxic horizon]

Its one of 2 endings, either that or TE

[untold dock]

I'm just sayin that in the || Sister of the void || ending for silksong, we never || saw The Hollow Knight's shade ||

[halcyon charm]

Hypothetically how would he even break the chains to get out

[odd sedge]

I am a firm believer that Dream No More is the canon ending, but it is left to interpretation and both Embrace the Void and Dream No More could be canon, I just lean more towards Dream No More

[slim orbit]

okay but embrace the void literaly means shade lord consumed fuck all of hallownest, OR the void from the shade lord got banished, and yall literaly dont see this

[naive torrent]

in embrace the void, void literally takes over hallownest, i think the delicate flower ending is the most correct

[peak musk]

Jailed siblings is

[digital wave]

delicate flower literally destroys the void and the knight

[toxic horizon]

Dawg go look at the cutscene, it probably has something to do with the fact ghost kills the radiance, meaning he’s no longer holding her

[soft wing]

I feel like it would be Embrace the Void personally. Given the appearance of ||Shade Lord|| in true ending.

[untold dock]

ending spoilers: || We got no idea how the shades got back to the void and swam around pharloom's abyss anyways||

[naive torrent]

no it limits the void, but nowhere is it said the void is destroyed, it's not a single entity but rather a conscious, ubiquitous substance

[digital wave]

def this

[toxic horizon]

Everbloom doesnt destroy void, just wards it, it likely teleports the godmaster somewhere else

[slim orbit]

it literally cannot be embrace the void

the only explaination for shade lord appearing for 2 frames is that the knight has a high affinity with the void itself for having voidheart embedded into him almost as a king's crown to pale king

[digital wave]

it does destroy it when hornet is descending tho

[untold dock]

no