sk-discussion

[coarse leaf]

Yep

[dense oasis]

Just jump and dash and win

[native canyon]

shaman crest is great in coral tower I got to one shot those fucking annoying ass alitas with the press of a button

[dusty cypress]

OH YEAH i forgot about that one...

[lusty stump]

Bait

[storm ether]

0/10 ragebait

[onyx horizon]

yo is the cradle ventrica completely blocked in act 3

[rustic quail]

just wanderers and flea brew and win
simplifying something doesnt make it easier

[vocal sage]

||does double moss mothers drop anything?||

[humble timber]

whys the high halls gauntlet so annoying

[heady rampart]

cant wait for infinite coral tower dlc

[light swan]

it’s damage got nerfed in the most recent patch im not sure what the new numbers are tho

[worldly umbra]

@vocal sagea tool

[obsidian swift]

yes

[onyx horizon]

fucked up

[steady abyss]

yea

[vocal sage]

wait what is it im not sure if ive done it yet

[dense oasis]

Yea both games kinda easy

[lusty stump]

I think so

[void pelican]

Can we normalize being bad at the game ✌️ 🥀

[lusty stump]

Idk but it def is

[dusty cypress]

yeah its near a crushed grand reed

[storm ether]

more like krill issue am i right?

[onyx horizon]

yea but its so annoying!!

[sharp fossil]

They got 2 hands

[native canyon]

if you're bad at silksong you don't deserve to play it

[light swan]

yea but also witch crest got buffed so the damage comparison between highest burst damage and 2nd highest burst damage is much closer which im super excited about

[patent kestrel]

does poison affect LL

[bleak thorn]

you cant normalize whats already normal

[coarse leaf]

Honestly hornet is a good hear me out

[steady abyss]

"simplifying something doesnt make it easier"

[void pelican]

Yes I take 10 attempts for every boss yes you can feel good about yourself that you did everything first try

[ornate torrent]

was i just playing too aggro then, trying to get nail hits in

[sharp fossil]

Hornet has been a hear me out since the dawn of time

[dense oasis]

"if you're poor you don't deserve money" 🥀

[patent kestrel]

give people time to get better holy shit

[native canyon]

it makes sense considering witch bind costs 9 silk and thread storm is only 4 like

[steady abyss]

shes a stick

[rustic quail]

if you're bad at life....

[sharp fossil]

I need Grandmother Silk

[brittle elbow]

she's not at all a "hear me out" wym
groal is a "hear me out"

[light swan]

i’m a witch user, 10 attempts is mandatory but i feel good for all 10 attempts of that thing

[vocal sky]

Yeah but each tick does two dmg so it’s not really worth that late game

[coarse leaf]

10/10 ragebait

[native canyon]

no

[vocal sage]

I JUST WENT BACK TO DOUBLE MOSS MOTHERS FOR NOTHING

[lost apex]

I mean maybe, I found it pretty easy to just kill 2 enemies, leave one and nail hit it to death since it's free repeat

[coarse leaf]

fair

[vagrant trellis]

Am I the only one that when I play silksong it feels like a few minutes passed but it's suddenly 2 am

[vocal sage]

I ALREADY BEAT THEMMMMM

[native canyon]

I call it replybait, and all you fools have taken it

[void pelican]

Yes I utilize overpowered builds (wanderers, longclaw, dice) for everything to make up for my lack of skill

[dusty cypress]

yeah... i may or may not have died to moss mother 4 times despite 112% hk just cuz i switched to nintendo and i pogo alot sooooo.

[ornate torrent]

usually the next batch of enemies spawns when you kill one

[coarse leaf]

i knew it was ragebait, therefore i didnt fall for it 🤔

[bleak thorn]

hot take: people only sleep on nyleth because of Seth

[light swan]

yea but witch heals 4 masks unlike thread storm, but also thread storm is free with weave light so it basically has no cost so they both have their drawbacks

[snow pebble]

oh no what goes here

[steady abyss]

"if you're bad at silksong you don't deserve to play it"
aka
"if you dont know how to play a game that came out a month ago you dont deserve it"

[native canyon]

you still replied

[dense oasis]

I call it mentally impaired

[hollow stratus]

Peak thread fodder

[steady abyss]

the guys in ||memorium||

[dusty cypress]

beeeg moss grubby boi

[vagrant trellis]

Am I the only one that when I play silksong it feels like a few minutes passed but it's suddenly 2 am

[light swan]

i still think thread storm is better but i won’t deny im super happy that witch is getting a lot more love with the damage

[coral latch]

Okay, I learned about something that stopped me from playing Silksong

[hollow stratus]

Give me my colosseum of fools team cherry

[native canyon]

... what an insane thing to say to someone over a joke

[dusty cypress]

HEY MAN I HAVE 98% Silksong

[coarse leaf]

in the same boat brother 🥲

[bleak thorn]

your computer died?

[rancid flare]

Knack 2

[coral latch]

Now I don't support Team Cherry anymore..

[patent kestrel]

k imma just use fractured mask or something else rn im using wanderers crest with magnitte dice,weighted belt,silk speed anklets, weavelight and long claw and flea brew and sharpdart aswell

[dusty cypress]

Reaper and wanderers crest helped

[hollow stratus]

I want to juggle moss mothers mixed in with those chop chop chop guys
Then throw in beastfly 3 just to fuck with ya
Then beastfly 4

[lusty stump]

What

[lost apex]

There's parts where that doesn't happen tho, also you still have enough time to get some silk via nail anyways since they'll usually have their long ass coral spawn animations

[patent kestrel]

why?

[coral latch]

I heard Bilewater was made to break people and frustrate them

[dense oasis]

You're the insane one

[dusty cypress]

Wanderers crest
Multibinder
Injection Band
Tacks
Longclaw
compass
weighted belt
Ascendants Grip
Silkspeed Anklets

[native canyon]

how

[tawdry sierra]

big moss thingy in memorium

[steady abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/judge-sentencing-meme-bilewater-silksong-gif-6507327091380503587

[coarse leaf]

explain 😭

[light swan]

also im gonna be honest, i absolutely destroyed lost lace with beast crest so like maybe beast isn’t that hard or maybe i’ve just mastered the fight

[dusty cypress]

king coral guy was such an L boss bro

[native canyon]

I made a joke and you're over here saying vaguely ableist shit

[dense oasis]

"if you're bad at silksong you don't deserve to play it"

[tawdry sierra]

bilewater is ragebait

[austere cliff]

i didnt find him as memorable as nyleth. he has cool music but just kinda fell over for me

[hollow stratus]

No what I mean is a proper colosseum of fools where they mix in several enemy types from multiple areas to juggle

[coarse leaf]

i love beast crest

[coral latch]

As someone who works REALLY hard not to rage and snap, that's just disrespectful to try to break me...

[tall rain]

Who play tested silksong?

[coarse leaf]

oh yeahhhhh

[bleak thorn]

they should make a DLC about pre-pollution bilewater

[steady abyss]

the clankers and the green guys dream i think

[native canyon]

below: a depiction of the battle between hornet and trobbio

[plain junco]

Is act 2 smaller than act 1

[light swan]

me too lol i felt so good going to ham against lace up against the wall (in combat not other scenarios)

[tall rain]

Was it even play tested at all?

[patent kestrel]

i dont wanna use tacks i like swordsman ship more

[obsidian swift]

clover dancers

[coral latch]

I'll never support ragebait...

[heady rampart]

holy fuck i lost so many rosaries in flea cerimony im so stupid

[tall rain]

Twice as big

[steady abyss]

nah

[hollow stratus]

Why is trobbio horizontal

[dusty cypress]

yeah np u can switch for flea brew or smthn

[native canyon]

yeah that's a joke, don't go calling people "mentally impaired" for that

[void pelican]

I don’t think so unless you speeding gms

[coarse leaf]

trobbio can rot in hell ITS the entire reason why i lost every single one of my roasiries

[patent kestrel]

yeah by the backers probably

[coral latch]

So ye, that's not good game design

[jolly bridge]

But what if

[plain junco]

Really

[tall rain]

Yes

[patent kestrel]

flea with wanderers is very fun

[dusty cypress]

How bro theres a bench like 2 feet away

[native canyon]

[plain junco]

Ok so 20 more hours

[vale whale]

mossgod

[granite salmon]

Naw

[dense oasis]

It means you're stupid idk what you're trying to say

[tall rain]

Don't count on it

[dusty cypress]

indeed

[hollow stratus]

Sidenote
More people should use the mlm flag tbqh

[light swan]

i’m actually surprised how good it was i didn’t need to face tank or struggle to heal at all while getting so much damage from the range and attack speed and the fucking bind buff (i always knew it was good but i didn’t think i’d have that easy of a time)

[coral latch]

So honestly, I want a refund

[heady rampart]

damn bro

[void pelican]

For me it was 20 hours act 1, 30 hours act 2 (full completion before next act)

[coarse leaf]

trobbio likes to be a sterotypical arab and bomb the entire arena so i fail to get my silk in time and die

[worldly umbra]

top 5 areas from across both hk games in your opinions heres mine from best to worst: mount fay, kingdoms edge, cogwork core, city of tears, and greenpath

[snow pebble]

where though

[hollow stratus]

Don't forget to get the silkworms from Styx
The best addition in the game

[plain junco]

I kinda guessed that isn't that Luke the epilog or something

[coral latch]

I'll never understand why people love to ragebait, it's not comfortable, it's not fun, it's bad game design and toxic

[patent kestrel]

get a refund then

[thin horizon]

Beat dark hornet

[dusty cypress]

are you telling me u get hit 3 times in the 2 seconds it takes to get to ur cocoon

[native canyon]

that has really ableist connotations, considering I'm autistic I feel like I know what ableist connotations are lol

[jolly bridge]

I do read the journals lad (I just forgot the ones I don’t care about)

[tall rain]

Ragevait?

[tawdry sierra]

i forgot tbh sorry, i think its where theres platforming with the red spikes

[obsidian swift]

in the moss area

[vale whale]

the moss shrine

[hollow stratus]

Men loving men

[patent kestrel]

w gurren lagann pfp simon is goated

[coral latch]

Idk how to on my Switch tbh..

[light swan]

bro ragebaiting has insanely bad game design i hate it lol, i’ve learned to joybait recently

[plain junco]

Thx

[snow pebble]

the verdania part?

[light swan]

i’m on my joybait + misinformation arc

[hollow stratus]

Because I like blue

[plain junco]

Don't forget to grit those teeth

[native canyon]

bad game design is a myth, especially in regards to silksong

[coarse leaf]

i was tryna do a strategy where you can get a silk replenishment if you hit the coocoon

[coral latch]

Typo...

[dusty cypress]

u have to do sum parkour its on the left u have to break some glass i think

[tall rain]

What are examples of rage bait in silksong?

[coral latch]

:/

[sharp current]

HELL YEAH

[dusty cypress]

ok but like... no

[tawdry sierra]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Category:Enemies_(Silksong)

[hollow stratus]

Also same reason as lesbians having their own flag
The rainbow flag is meant to represent everyone in the group
These flags are for the individual subgroups

[coarse leaf]

i see

[dusty cypress]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[patent kestrel]

and evolve beyond the person you were a minute before

[coral latch]

Bilewater was made to ragebait, I just said that

[native canyon]

HOLY SHIT

[broken basin]

i just killed gms it was honestly easier than first sinner or am i wrong

[sharp fossil]

I hear noises from the birds, where do i get to them? (act 3)

[heady rampart]

rainbow is queer/lgbt in general

[fallow linden]

Bruh

[coarse leaf]

gms is so easy

[dusty cypress]

Right

[livid briar]

Why does mossmother have vegeta's hair?

[sharp fossil]

Theres a locked door

[dusty cypress]

U need craw memento tho

[broken basin]

literally easy first sinner

[worldly umbra]

@livid briar

[coarse leaf]

i cant unsee it, thank you

[livid briar]

Yes me

[lusty stump]

That’s because a different ending makes it harder

[modest dragon]

trying to get the speedrun achievement, made it to the last judge at about 2h 30min mark
this a good pace?

[broken basin]

go up

[dusty cypress]

yes i know

[light swan]

Hh arena only fight thats actually kind of badly designed but i’m a game design nerd and struggled against the fight so most of these are nitpicks that can be solved by getting better, even if they’re fundamental flaws

[tawdry sierra]

i aint reading allat

[livid briar]

No problem 😃

[broken basin]

yea im about to do it, ill hate every second of it.

[heady rampart]

half the chat is this half the time

[worn rose]

First of all your not vegeta second of all I am vegeta

[coral latch]

Anyways...I'm sorry, Silksong isn't for someone that tries to stay calm like me...

[livid briar]

Vivian?

[dusty cypress]

U need craw memento which can be found at a random bench i thinks

[hollow stratus]

God I still hate that it's half blurred in memorium

[light swan]

team cherry should, its made me crash out exponentially more than everything else in the game

[native canyon]

honestly disagree with a lot of this stuff, I feel like it only really applies when you're doing conductor gauntlet on any%

[broken basin]

@remote silo

[sharp fossil]

the old rush room got nothing

[timid zodiac]

real

[coarse leaf]

i havent fought him yet is he that bad

[hollow stratus]

Surely dlc....
For some reason being parked there but surely

[lusty stump]

Just be patient. Focus on survival and you’ll get it

[tall rain]

Some of the gauntlets are pretty bad design tbh

[broken basin]

okay but no heals is crazy

[obsidian swift]

craw memento is the reqard, craw summons is the item you need

[coral latch]

I'm just a Vivian fan, TTYD Remake is my favorite game of all time, but my name is Drew lol

[heady rampart]

nope, real fun boss its THE FUCKING GAUNTLET BEFORE HIM I AM GOING TO DIE

[vale tide]

about to start the fight agaist the pinstress any tips?

[hollow stratus]

If you got the craws summons then you go the door under this

[dusty cypress]

Oh yeah thank you

[tawdry sierra]

u need the craw summons by sitting at a bench

[light swan]

thats low-key fair i spent 40 minutes on it while seething with rage after beating the fight so i probably was just releasing all my negative emotions

[plain junco]

My Bro is dead. He's gone. But he's right there on my back and here in my heart. He lives on as a part of me! If you're gonna dig, dig to the heavens. No matter what's in my way, I won't stop. Once I've dug through, it means that I've won! Just who the hell do you think I am? I'm Simon. I'm not my bro. I'm ME! Simon The Digger!!

[sharp fossil]

THE CRAW SUMMONS??

[livid briar]

My fav paper mario is TTYD too. Nice to meet u drew

[native canyon]

I disagree that they're fundamental flaws, you are given the ultimate tool for a lot of flying enemies in clawline, and it is a metroidvania so running into a wall means you should go explore and find a way around that wall

[tawdry sierra]

its an item

[light swan]

maybe it was cuz i was using reaper crest instead of my other crests

[worldly umbra]

we ALL have to agree this is fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVXcJDj9WDk&list=RDWVXcJDj9WDk&start_radio=1

[hollow stratus]

Oh cool lol
Uh ye you're just gonna have to wait for it to be thrown at you maybe in bellhart

[rough dawn]

y'all is this a good build for ll??

[light swan]

i low-key didn’t use clawline that much at that time lol so that’s fair, this was right after i got the ability so i wasn’t like attuned to it as i am now

[patent kestrel]

theory: locations with dead characters who seem important for example the green pinstress will get dream fights ALSO i think we will get a beaches or shores of pharloom dlc introducing the cut nearly and practically complete area pharloom bay and more of coral location and possibly purewater (what bilewater was before it went shitty) w or L theory/prediction

[lusty stump]

Yeah it’s harder than normal. But just get it one hit at a time

[native canyon]

that's super fair I find myself saying something is badly designed in frustration when I don't actually think that a lot of the time

[broken basin]

now to beat the granny while cursed

[sharp fossil]

i got no craw summons

[dusty cypress]

wll she aint lookin to young either

[timid zodiac]

bilewater mentioned

[primal horizon]

<@&283547423706447872>

[light swan]

i had a much better time in my soeedrun but i still spent an hour on it

[regal isle]

elegy of the deep needolin fights hell yeah

[snow pebble]

what goes in these two spots

[timid zodiac]

mate its not that deep

[primal horizon]

groal you were there when i pinged mods for this last time, what are you doing man

[light swan]

lol yea i should revise it some time in the eyes of a skilled player

[hollow stratus]

You're just gonna have to wait then
Are you in act 3 btw
Cuz if so
Up + Y

[void pelican]

I only struggled when I purposely didn’t utilize game mechanics like tools, skills, and abilities.

[native canyon]

conductor gauntlet on any% is kinda hellish...

[timid zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-patrick-star-derp-duh-gif-21500047

[hollow stratus]

Makes back tracking way faster

[dusty cypress]

.

[sharp fossil]

Im in act 3 yeah

[snow pebble]

it's so much harder, gl
I'm really glad it's an easy boss, otherwise I'd never have gotten that ending

[dreamy grail]

I think the first enemy there is only found in Act 3

[lusty stump]

What’s that

[hollow stratus]

Took me a while to figure out the use for that needolin song

[sharp fossil]

ohhh idk why i didnt think of that bruh

[light swan]

i was good at the game at that time lol but no tools and 5 hp sucked

[dusty cypress]

cogwork dancers and a puny penitent

[snow pebble]

I'm in act 3

[dreamy grail]

Wait, nvm, you're already in Act 3

[native canyon]

did make me appreciate it a ton but oh my god I spent like 5 hours just trying to get through it my very first time

[heady rampart]

this one at the bottom i think

[sharp fossil]

IT DIDNT DO ANYTHING

[snow pebble]

I have cogwork dancers

[coarse leaf]

do i really need to collect every flea for act 3?

[coral latch]

I don't like to get negative, but I agree with most of these

[livid briar]

Why mossmother why

[dusty cypress]

yeah its the scrollreader sorry

[keen kiln]

no, you can miss a few

[light swan]

i used all i had at my disposal except for clawline, i think i used a bunch of sawtooth circlet combos surprisingly enough

[coarse leaf]

oh thank god

[snow pebble]

can you even find those in act 3?

[rustic olive]

puny penitent in the slab, and something in the vaults, probably the scrollreader or something

[dusty cypress]

do you need to collect any?

[patent kestrel]

i feel like they will DEFINTElY expand on the needolin introducing more dream fights as it makesalot of sense game design wise and maybe more dream areas like verdainia maybe

[broken basin]

Hey so i have 3/4 masks and i have 8 total masks, lowk dunno where i missed it

[native canyon]

I get the complaints about maestros and clawmaidens and choir bellbearers in the conductor gauntlet but honestly my least favorite enemy is the ministers, fuck those guys and their weird attack patterns

[hollow stratus]

Don't do it above water lol

[snow pebble]

what's the puny penitent?

[light swan]

i dont either, it’s just this fight that broke me

[sterile iron]

K so now that silksong is out, do we know what happened to hornet in P5 ending??

[dusty cypress]

slab boi

[light swan]

who are the ministers again

[worldly umbra]

@snow pebble

[sharp fossil]

I got warned for agreeing on gms 💔

[dreamy grail]

Mhm, looks like you're missing that boss

[light swan]

any what?

[dusty cypress]

yep yep

[hollow stratus]

Just find some solid ground
Unless you hear screams
In which case
You monster

[snow pebble]

ah okay where do I find those guys in act 3?

[sharp fossil]

Sorry mods

[dusty cypress]

fleas

[rustic olive]

puny penitent it's like the big one but smaller, check the rooms in the slab and you'll find it, and the scroll reader it's the big guy in the vaults

[coral latch]

I'm doing my best, by stopping before it breaks me and calmly criticizing the game...

[sharp fossil]

SCREAMS?

[timid zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/rule322-gif-23893043

[hollow stratus]

Don't worry about it

[tall rain]

Nine Sols is one of the best metroidvanias to come out in the last few years

[patent kestrel]

also is it just me or do yall think aswell that the wisp thicket will get an expansion because right now its REALLY small its practically a little bigger than bellhart

[sharp fossil]

FYM DONT WORRY ABOUT IT

[coral latch]

What? Wdum?

[tall rain]

Why are you typing so big lmfao

[dusty cypress]

who is not the choir clapper

[hollow stratus]

Oh btw the gays are to the hole in the wall to the right of that craw home

[heady rampart]

bellhart (and the sub areas) are bigger i think

[patent kestrel]

so more people see it idk

[native canyon]

choir clapper is high halls

[marsh ibex]

Thanks for the ping

[dreamy grail]

Oh sure, I played Nine Sols last year. Awesome game 👍

[broken basin]

Is karmelita act 3 locked?

[sharp fossil]

"partaking in nsfw conversation"

[light swan]

oh i love these guys they’re so fun to fight

[dusty cypress]

🙁

[patent kestrel]

wisp thicket needs an expansion

[hollow stratus]

I get it

[dusty cypress]

YESSSSS

[sharp fossil]

they hate me

[hollow stratus]

So true

[broken basin]

Guys is the right area of far fields accessible in act 2? Can i get the mask shard thats there

[marsh ibex]

Can you not be a fucking weirdo

[snow pebble]

is the only scrollreader dead in act 3??

[heady rampart]

yeah, fun area just so tiny

[coral latch]

Huh?? What does GMS stand for anyways in your context?

[hollow stratus]

He was pretty weaksauce

[patent kestrel]

i beat him 1st try all he does is spam the coral crust

[native canyon]

for some reason I approached them in a way where I refused to use silk skills, which is where my hatred for them comes from

[worldly umbra]

@snow pebblefirst one for big orange guy, second for small prisoner

[somber gale]

Should i go for khann or karmelita first?

[dusty cypress]

nor

[gaunt shuttle]

?

[light swan]

parry is super predictable and the double damage slash is kinda easy to dodge so they’re just super fun to fight (especially because i was using reaper and parrying everything lol) (please don’t flame me i was bad at the time)

[hollow maple]

would anyone be willing to give me some tips for Nyleth?

[normal summit]

Grandma Silk

[dusty cypress]

pogo.

[sharp fossil]

Grand mother silk

[rough dawn]

my game freezed while fighting ll 😭

[dusty cypress]

GRAND MOTHER

[coral latch]

Ohhh I saw the final bosses btw

[patent kestrel]

use ascendants grip

[exotic dome]

gruz mother sink

[hollow stratus]

Khann is easy
Karmalita is a bit more active

[rough dawn]

rune rage/pale nails

[dusty cypress]

THERE IS A SPACE

[exotic dome]

wrong reply

[coral latch]

THATS NOT NSFW THO

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-silksong-dance-hornet-dance-hornet-silksong-gif-3654151901745923854

[marsh ibex]

Use ascendant’s grip
pogo

[light swan]

reaper and these guys actually helped me develop a parrycentric approach to the fight because i could just nullify tight situations with a pogo and get out really nicely

[hollow maple]

mk, thanks everyone!

[native canyon]

they're calling it quite possibly the best area theme of all time?
https://youtu.be/ZvHkkPrIFmI

[obsidian swift]

clawline

[zinc gazelle]

Im stuck on her idk what to do

[dreamy grail]

Silkhook the AOE toxin

[somber gale]

how bad is khann's gauntlet

[patent kestrel]

either way she is still old as shit and technically a grandma

[tawdry sierra]

DOMAA

[exotic dome]

34 waves total

[light swan]

lol i grinded them for silk to heal

[normal summit]

easy mode --> Reaper
hard mode --> Witch

[sharp fossil]

<@&283547423706447872> hey hey hey

[dusty cypress]

SHE IS INDEED HORNETS GRANDMA

[queen pulsar]

Should they buff the architect silkshot?

[native canyon]

I'd say coral tower gauntlet is about on par with the colosseum of fools

[lusty stump]

Think Colo 3

[sharp fossil]

big pointer finger, big red circle

[tawdry sierra]

why did bro got muted

[coral latch]

I already know of so many great area themes in multiple games...people gotta stop being so bias...

[hollow stratus]

It's way more forgiving than high halls
They even give you free silk and down time in-between arenas
I don't get why act 3 is easier than act 2 lol
Aside from Seth and Nyleth
They were fun

[coarse leaf]

beast crest

[heady rampart]

false information

[marsh ibex]

I wonder why the guy who asked nsfw questions got muted

[vivid belfry]

She didn't create the weavers, she jacked their shit

[exotic dome]

bilewater theme is better imo

[vivid belfry]

Pale king is not quirrel's dad

[zinc gazelle]

Hell no

[normal summit]

not too bad since you can skip it to the boss after you finish 3-4 stages

[fading barn]

time for first act 2 boss

[patent kestrel]

theres 3 gauntlets with alot of waves HOWEVER at the end of the 3rd gauntlet there is a spike which you can break to ake fall down to the bottom making a shortcut

[exotic dome]

peak

[native canyon]

gms ascended the weavers then enslaved them what a piece of shit

[dreamy grail]

That's funny, I also used Beast Crest for Karmalita. Still hard as b*lls, but let me trade more often

[dusty cypress]

LISTEN TO DA MUSIC

[somber gale]

act 3 is NOT easier than act 2 💔

[heady rampart]

guys the knigth is a pale king reincarnation trust 100% real

[hollow stratus]

Btw use wanderers crest or reaper for the coral tower
You need to do a lot of pogo-ing

[light swan]

unfortunately despite the wonderful ost of silksong it’s still my 3rd favorite game ost, purely a personal preference but it shows how many high quality games there are

[native canyon]

we need to beat grand mother silk to death with our bare hands for what she did to the weavers

[dreamy maple]

I just wanna say

Team cherry optimized this game to high hell

Consistent 60 fps on steam deck, 400+ fps on pc

[lost apex]

Silk her song eternal

[dusty cypress]

SORRY ABOUT SAYING SHE IS HORNETS GRANDMA BTW

[worldly umbra]

SMASH with a hammer or pass: eva's cage

[hollow stratus]

Eh it was
Like groal and high halls cleans coral tower

[normal summit]

is it weird that i only use Witch on act 3?

[zenith thunder]

I don't remember any track besides bilewater

[coral latch]

....you guys need to calm down...

[patent kestrel]

very evil

[hollow stratus]

Which is funny cuz bilewater is literally a dumpsite

[vivid belfry]

Shaman is pogo god and doesn't run into tool starvation

[dusty cypress]

Pair with claw mirrors

[somber gale]

fair

[hollow stratus]

No not at all
In fact it's peak when combined with the flash mirror

[normal summit]

yeess

[light swan]

good job you’ve remembered maybe the 2nd best area theme in the game

[spare tangle]

No ,we’re nuking pharloom

[crystal ledge]

omg how am i getting these perfect ass numbers

[dusty cypress]

It can almost one shot a grand reed

[patent kestrel]

i want my purewater dlc 🥺 🙏

[spiral nexus]

rjyngbgrewFHN

[native canyon]

it's definitely up there for me, somehow better than the original hollow knight how did he do it

[zenith thunder]

no other theme I've heard comes close, what do you consider #1

[heady rampart]

imagine being born and when you develop free wil your mom sends you to the fucking sewers to clean 💔

[normal summit]

it's so much more fun than reaper

[covert gyro]

MFS LIED TO ME

[light swan]

no not at all witch is a completely fair crest to use no bias at all

[flint cave]

OH MY GOD????? I GOT HITLESS LACE 2 ON MY 10TH TRY

[coral latch]

Eh...

[hollow stratus]

Oh shaman is also peak
Mmm thread + cross stitch and maybe pale nails or silkspear for long ranged

• Fleabadge + surgical pins + volts

[dusty cypress]

I personally dont like it very much but i still think it is cool

[light swan]

cogwork core personally, probably favorite theme in the whole game idk

[exotic dome]

witch is the best crest if you have multibinder and fast bind tool

[dusty cypress]

Ground binds.

[hollow stratus]

I need a harder act 3 tbqh

[vivid belfry]

I wouldn't say the best, but it is strong

[dusty cypress]

wanderers

[ornate torrent]

is shaman crest good on lost lace? i'd assume so, right?

[light swan]

i wouldn’t say it’s the best crest it’s definitely the funnest and most well designed crest in my opinion - #1 witch crest fan

[patent kestrel]

yeah your good enough mods make them fight 10 lost laces at the same time

[light swan]

for sure shaman is good against everything

[hollow stratus]

Really wanted act 3 to be like tackling Zelda dungeons but oh well
That's just my idea

[spare tangle]

Any crest you know how to use will be good

[dreamy maple]

I accidentally beat the final boss thinking there would be more 😂

I just used abs rad Strats to avoid attacks

[native canyon]

every crest is the best crest except for reaper which is the worst crest

[zenith thunder]

Oh I remember the first part of this at least. Remember it being kinda repetitive.

[coral latch]

I love the area themes in both HK, but they're not the "best area themes of all time"

[hollow stratus]

The closest you've got is coral tower and verdania

[vivid belfry]

They're all good, shaman potentially runs into healing opportunity troubles but not so much that it's unviable

[light swan]

agreed

[dusty cypress]

???

[broken basin]

Guys theres another bench past the first in terminus in the cradle but how do i get to it?

[dreamy maple]

Is the spoiler embargo lifted yet?

[coral latch]

It's all subjective but my personal favorite area themes is in a different game

[normal summit]

it's just so much fun and adrenaline inducing with witch. Altho it takes awhile for me to get used to LL thanks to her fast pace. Harder to get bind moments

[brittle elbow]

does craggler only deal 1 damage or am i misremembering

[dreamy grail]

I wish I liked Reaper Crest, but I struggle to vibe with slow attacks unless they're bonk weapons. I think my playstyle is too agressive

[exotic dome]

no unless they patched it

[native canyon]

there's these silksong track extensions on youtube that uses the edge magazine cover and it reminds me of how fucking beautiful lace's arena in the cradle is

[spare tangle]

Misremembering

[brittle elbow]

pretty sure this is supposed to deal 2 i think i accidentally have a damage clamp mod

[vivid belfry]

Witch pogo also utterly fucks you over in that fight

[hollow stratus]

Mmm I love half a second long pogos that moves my hurtbox into the enemies hitbox

[light swan]

y’all should play afterimage it has my 2nd favorite area themes and is such a peak underrated metroidvania iys is amazing

[brittle elbow]

oh ok

[covert gyro]

WHERES THE BOSS IN this irrevelant place omg theres nothing here

[hollow stratus]

I can probably try figuring out a healer build for reaper tho

[native canyon]

they cooked so hard for lace 2 arena aesthetically probably top 3 rooms in the game

[worldly umbra]

would be crazy if we got a "tides of the depths" esk dlc where the barnacle and coral areas both get drained or sum or we visit them in a memory

[light swan]

only during 1 attack to be fair, its just something you learn just like every other fight in the game

[gaunt shuttle]

move left twin

[normal summit]

it does provide the 2nd best iframe pogo in the game tho

[vivid belfry]

I still haven't learned the optimal healing moments either, but I managed to win with it in 2 attempts

[zenith thunder]

as a whole skong ost is not even top 10 for me but bilewater is very good

[hollow stratus]

Surgical pins + the 4 mask heals maybe

[dusty cypress]

down slightly and left

[cerulean sable]

Hornet should've carried an M14 EBR

[patent kestrel]

it feels ever so slightly a little dissapointing tbh i just want wisp thicket,purewater and pharloom shores and beaches dlc

[dreamy grail]

Keep going from where you are. Almost there

[cerulean sable]

wouldve solved most of her problems

[hollow stratus]

Surgical pins > warding bell btw

[coral latch]

I understand that and I respect your opinions ^^

[exotic dome]

please go there before boss

[dusty cypress]

yeah

[spare tangle]

Seeing people discuss which crest is the best like this isn’t a PvE game💔

[normal summit]

go left, you're very close

[native canyon]

best she has is the rosary cannon which is the doohickey that killed shinzo abe

[hollow stratus]

They should buff the warding Bell's damage and explosion so I can make my kamikaze build

[wary storm]

WE ALL NEED ACT 3 DEEP REMEMBRANCE WITH CORAL FOREST LOCATION, ANTHILL LOCATION, CLEAR BILEWATERS, PRIME SHELLWOOD, NO CITADEL, PRIME MOUNT FAY, VERDANIA and other cool stuff imagine that

[worn canyon]

Posting all my tools 2gether again

[dusty cypress]

money launcher

[light swan]

i’ve beaten lost lace about 15 times with barbed bracelet witch crest :D even beat it on camera for a korean project

[patent kestrel]

deadass

[hollow stratus]

There's a lack of sillyness to the tools that I desire to make

[mossy basalt]

sup fellas

ok ok so i was wondering

[gaunt shuttle]

hot take the coral gorge is better off being an enemy rush rather than a full area maybe

[patent kestrel]

the warding bell is actually shit

[dense heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348899751414071309/1368891734645276722/lerolero-4x.gif

[dusty cypress]

i like

[mossy basalt]

just bought the silksong soundtrack

[covert plume]

||signis and gron|| is lowkey about to make me waterboard myself

[native canyon]

I've fought lost lace so many times and I'm gonna fight her so many times more such a good fucking fight

[vivid belfry]

From testing every crest against LL, wanderer gave by far the easiest win while witch was the hardest

[hollow stratus]

Like in hollow knight where you either get like the 20 mask build
Or the fuck it we ball slug build with the rng flower shield

[covert gyro]

WHERES THE BENCH OMFG I HAVE TO RUN ALL THE WAY BACK

[dense heath]

silso i love silso i want silsooo

[dusty cypress]

yep

[worn canyon]

Getting lava comboed?

[patent kestrel]

take hotter than the actual sun holy

[vivid belfry]

Beast, however, had the advantage of almost a full playthrough under my belt unlike witch

[mossy basalt]

which song would work best as bacground music for my silksong vid?

[crystal ledge]

DUDE ACT 3 WTF STOP GIVING ME COOL ASS NUMBERS OF ROSARIES

[exotic dome]

@covert gyro its there

[native canyon]

choral chambers

[covert plume]

yup pretty much

[normal summit]

that flame veil would be so peak for cheesing strat

[dense heath]

https://tenor.com/view/one-more-game-one-more-game-squid-game-season-2-one-more-round-netflix-gif-2126750657036619838

[obsidian swift]

#sk-discussion message

[mossy basalt]

alr let me check it out

[hollow stratus]

Either way you're getting triple mask damage

[covert plume]

might be worst gank fight in the game tbh

[coral latch]

Annnnnd thats why I'm done with the game to put it kindly...

[normal summit]

welcome to the most hellish runback in history

[brittle elbow]

fun fact that's exactly how much hp death phase 1 has in aria of sorrow

[covert gyro]

MFF I Missed it omggg

[hollow stratus]

I had like 15k or smthn in mine

[dreamy grail]

Its fine for what it is, which is giving you a risk-free attempt at healing. Are there better tools that make it more of a crutch? Sure. But as one of the first items you get its servicable

[mossy basalt]

yep you nailed it thats perfect

[hollow stratus]

Use your gun
The money gun
It's not used often but it's funny

[mossy basalt]

thanks 😄

[covert gyro]

F BILEWATER

[patent kestrel]

true

[native canyon]

I should make a silksong ost tier list but I love the music in this game too much I'd put everything in s tier

[dreamy grail]

You think you had it bad, I never found the bench

[zenith thunder]

you find it that attractive?

[dusty cypress]

its actually directly below there but sure guys whatever u say

[normal summit]

idle --> Choral chambers
fighting --> Skarrsinger

[hollow stratus]

Would've been cooler if it allowed ya to lock your position midair

[dreamy grail]

I only found it AFTER the boss, so I ran a marathon

[covert gyro]

where

[mossy basalt]

omg yes

[hollow stratus]

Cogwork core
Choral tower
Fleatopia

[dusty cypress]

idle: cogwork core

[light swan]

and for reference, best heal windows i’ve found are staggers & phase transitions, end of her diagonal upwards attacks, under her airborne void tentacles attacks, under/next to her void balls attacks, right above her after she does her big aoe white attack, and if you’re brave you can fit it after hitting her parry or after her 1st dash in her combo since she can only dash again after that

[worn canyon]

Flame flail yeah, I think it’s balanced because it requires like oneisg second charge up the throw it but it’s really good against stationary targets (so, stunned)

[native canyon]

that would've made it useful somewhat and then that'd ruin the gimmick

[patent kestrel]

see if bilewater was still purewater yall would be loving it hate on the citadel instead lowkey

[normal summit]

that works too

[gaunt shuttle]

do u think elder hu could be related to shakras tribe in a way considering how similar he is to their general clothing and fighting style

[hollow stratus]

Ye but it's funny

[light swan]

me too low-key, everything’s either S or not memorable enough

[dusty cypress]

you see where they marked go directly below there and break a wall

[zenith thunder]

if anything i would like it less

[normal summit]

who knows, with Hornet's needolin to the past, we might be able to see it

[patent kestrel]

yeah but very distant

[hollow stratus]

Sidenote
Don't forget that there's a secret bench at the top of mount fay right under the bird

[vivid belfry]

Or third dash right

[normal summit]

actually yea i can see that

[native canyon]

made a deltarune ost tier list once and too much shit was in A and S tier lmao

[mossy basalt]

think ill originate between cogwork core and choral chambers for just exploration

[vestal spruce]

Anyone else lose their steel soul run in that voltvessel area because I just did 16 hours in

[patent kestrel]

i want purewater dlc i wanna she how it got so shitty

[native canyon]

like everything would just go into A and S tier

[exotic dome]

glory to pharloom dlc with coral gorge, found verdania and purewater would go peak

[mossy basalt]

and skarrsinger for pain and suffering

[light swan]

dlc where you explore old pharloom, with pharloom bay and coral forest and prime shell wood and clearwater :D

[dusty cypress]

where the hornet is

[normal summit]

probably purewater is before citadel was established, so that's way before GMS and Weavers are around

[patent kestrel]

ah yes the hollow purple spam area

[hollow stratus]

My cope is a dream silk campaign all taking place in the past maybe

[normal summit]

oh i would love that

[coarse leaf]

Yo can someone give me a tier list of the crests in silksong, i just want info to know which one i should main

[light swan]

yea but i find it harder since you can’t fully predict if she’s gonna third dash or not, and her slash at the end extends above her so it can misleadingly hit you

[zenith thunder]

soul sage groal or grand chief groal

[hollow stratus]

But ik they're gonna make path of pain but with mushrooms

[dusk holly]

Guys there's a groal skipp

[vestal spruce]

I had my harden mask on and died to it somehow

[vivid belfry]

Fair

[ornate torrent]

looks beautiful ngl, hope they add something like this in dlc

[dusty cypress]

personally

[normal summit]

but the dlc we need is definitely Godhome. I'm dying to fight Karmelita again

[jovial kettle]

bilewater is goated

[dusk holly]

We are free, out souls have been saved, you don't have to do groall

[patent kestrel]

purewater my beloved 🥺 🥺

[mossy basalt]

ive heard people say that the witch one is good

[dusk holly]

https://youtube.com/shorts/vIU39aR0ATc?si=RL-Kx7s_s9pk_ty2 I can die happy

[zenith thunder]

you will still do groal anyways because he is peak

[worn canyon]

Bilewater more like good

[jovial kettle]

ye but he was fun

[hollow stratus]

And it'll be peak maybe cuz idk I'm dissatisfied at the lack of a white palace
||The red memory could've done that but oh well, ig they wanted it more for atmosphere than challenge||

[dusty cypress]

wanderer
Shaman
Witch
Architect
Hunter

[light swan]

i am the #1 witch crest fan so i completely agree with you the crest is awesome

[patent kestrel]

i just wanna see its lore

[native canyon]

fuck it, I'm doing it, lowest tier is B tier no song in this game is worse than a B tier I'm saying this right now

[worn canyon]

Which direction

[dusty cypress]

Beast
Reaper

[dusty cypress]

down

[coarse leaf]

oh, i didnt know wanderer was that good

[stray pulsar]

What is that thing where whenever you use your drifter cloak it deals damage to surounding

[zenith thunder]

i just use hunter for everything

[jovial kettle]

valid

[leaden delta]

oh hold on let me get my tierlist

[mossy basalt]

yeah and i thought christopher cooked last game

[hollow stratus]

My tier list is just everything but reaper /j

[normal summit]

no need prediction, her 3rd act will based on your position, if you're high in the air, she will go up, if you're close enough for the tendrils to hit you, she will dash

[snow pebble]

okay what's this guy

[light swan]

sawtooth circlet, you can buy it from the twelfth architect after getting clawline

[worn canyon]

I think hunter should be higher but yeah

[dusty cypress]

yep
you can spam heal

[hollow stratus]

Every crest is peak once you've got the build for it

[mossy basalt]

if christopher cooked in the last game, he went on master chef this time

[native canyon]

the fucking musicians went so hard

[dusty cypress]

i agree maybe swap hunter with with but the pogo trips me up

[normal summit]

i love hunter but damn i really dont like that atk down

[leaden delta]

nvm don’t have the image
architect, shaman
wanderer, hunter
beast, witch
gap
reaper

[light swan]

yea that’s what i learned too i just haven’t been able to do it yet lol since im always close to her that i just punish her up attack

[worn canyon]

Honestly the crest debate is too toxic though ima stop participating in it unless someone is glazing reaper crest

[native canyon]

gap

[obsidian swift]

you should main whichever one fits your playstyle

[mossy basalt]

dont hate on reaper

[zenith thunder]

is sawtooth brace the thing that makes you go walk like a spider any good

[stuck sandal]

Hunter crest S tier because I said so

[celest fractal]

Are the Mottled Skarr sickly or just a different subspecies/race? The wiki page for the mtotled skarr merchant says he's implied to be sick but theres also gurr and the ant that gives you the upgraded curveclaw who says in his needolin dialogue "This mark is not a curse" which implies to me they are outcasted for their race/origins

TLDR are the mottled ants being quarantined or are the others just racist lol

[ivory plinth]

I made sure to give hornets 10 beers after witnessing pharloom being filled with black

[hollow stratus]

But also depending on the boss cuz sometimes you need either quick wacks, long range wacks, pogo-ing wacks, pogo towards the enemy wacks, fuck it we ball no-hit wacks, unga bunga wacks
Etc.

[native canyon]

I made this a bit earlier

[worn canyon]

I don’t hate it it just has low skill ceiling

[leaden delta]

I don’t think it has much of anything going for it tbh

[dusty cypress]

personally i dont think architect is that good unless ur just cheesing every boss with poison tacks and cogflies

[light swan]

i’ve accepted that all crests are good and are based on playstyle not how good they are, yiu should too :D

[normal summit]

i find that to be the easiest way to beat her. just slight movement dodging all her attacks and hit back

[stuck sandal]

Hunter and architect need to be higher

[jovial kettle]

clover dancers theme is so good

[leaden delta]

tools are really broken yes, but the main kit is also stupid good

[ivory plinth]

[light swan]

i also only glaze witch so i don’t need to worry about angering anyone else since witch is universally loved

[dusty cypress]

i can agree with this

[normal summit]

that's basically the whole point of architect lol

[native canyon]

it's a numbers ranking

[covert gyro]

RIP LITTLE PILGRIM BROS

[alpine inlet]

Is there a way to remap the red skill controls instead of Up + L/Down + L?

[obsidian swift]

i think its racism and thats why they killed the merchant

[celest fractal]

I guess it woulden't really make sense if they quarantined the merchant only to go ahead and kill him later though

[hollow stratus]

That's what I like about hk and sk's crest system
It's both built to fit your playstyle but also forces you to adapt for certain enemies

[stuck sandal]

Needs to be higher

[velvet turtle]

sweats as a reaper user

[dusty cypress]

Yes and its so boring

[fading barn]

if this boss had clasical music while fighting it would have been peak

[mossy basalt]

how dare you reaper is the whole reason part 2 in my silksong series was less than 40 minutes

[light swan]

yea, hit and run + punish is awesome especially because witch crest sprint attack deals 2x damage it makes it even better

[stuck sandal]

Hunters crest best crest in the game

[normal summit]

Witch at 6????

BLASPHEMY

[jovial kettle]

fr

[worn canyon]

I agree but people saying reaper is “the best” make me very annoyed bc it has low skill ceiling and I want people to try other crests

[native canyon]

the gap between #1 and #6 is significantly smaller than the gap between #6 and #7

[jovial kettle]

FR

[mossy basalt]

reaper crest is awesome i dont care what you say

[velvet turtle]

67

[stuck sandal]

Hunters crest beat

[celest fractal]

Prolly, suprised that whole segment of the ant lore was hardly explored (unless I just missed it lol)

[normal summit]

actually 3 hits if you mash the attack button

[dusty cypress]

bruh witches only redeeming factor is the heal everything else kinda dookie

[quiet cobalt]

Fym?? That boss is akr peak

[coarse leaf]

damn bro i love beast and like reaper i didnt know they were bad like that

[snow bramble]

Genuinely felt insane ||playing the needolin on grandmother silk|| holy shit seeing ||void and soul|| again was crazy

[normal summit]

skill issue

[light swan]

no it deals double damage, the last 2 attacks deal half a needle hit each

[hollow stratus]

Wait idea for silksong dlc
Swiftmaster race but you get a motorcycle

[native canyon]

how do I resist the urge to just throw every silksong track into s tier

[celest fractal]

I should have used the needolin on the merchant while he lived though

[normal summit]

ah felt like 3, nvm then

[light swan]

so it’s needle + half needle + half needle to make 2 needle damage, still 3 hits

[dusty cypress]

3 blue tools is nice tho

[stuck sandal]

I glaze hunters crest so much that I beat every act 3 boss with no spells, just hunters crest

[normal summit]

ah yea that makes more sense

[hollow stratus]

Me when 500 deaths in high halls

[leaden delta]

i wouldn’t call any crest other than reaper bad

[worldly umbra]

would this be cool for the coral area (yes im a terrible artist)

[vivid belfry]

Reaper crest has aura its just underpowered

[obsidian swift]

use what you want
also beast isnt bad just hard to use

[dusty cypress]

BRUH JUST USE WANDERER WITH LONGCLAW ITS JUST BETTER

[vivid belfry]

If the silk orbs were affected by gravity it would be awesome

[mossy basalt]

exactly

[stuck sandal]

Damage boost give me dopamine

[worn canyon]

I mean there’s already a charm pretty similar to this tbh

[normal summit]

i would love to use wanderer but i dont have any spare lockets

[hollow stratus]

Reaper crest is defo meant more as a training wheels crest rather than something to be used for power

[cerulean sable]

imo all the crest are good, the problem is Reaper is popular to a lot of people for the following reasons:

1. Silk gen helps with endurance fights
2. Pogo is a lot easier for those who arent used to the dive version
3. The Sprint + Attack moveset undoubted signifies Hornet as a high net worth individual who has immense amount of wealth, respect, and power

[leaden delta]

I keep saying this. dash cancels are sexy as fuck on reaper and the soul mechanic is cool, it just doesn’t have anything to do

[heavy meadow]

I can’t wait to see the city of steel

[dusty cypress]

Yeah fair

[snow bramble]

ACT 3 IS CALLED WHAT???????????

[native canyon]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: every crest except reaper has a way to become absurdly overpowered, which is why reaper is the worst

[hollow stratus]

Let go of those training wheels and you'll achieve bliss

[dusty cypress]

Its really bad on its base

[austere cloud]

ok i did my 3 favorite bosses with the barbed wire tool and now i love them even more

[obsidian swift]

they said earlier that the gap between reaper and witch is larger than the gap between witch and wanderer

[normal summit]

yea that's the problem

[dusty cypress]

I can agree there

[obsidian swift]

not really

[mossy basalt]

let me go make a crudely drawn ms paint thing real quick

[worldly umbra]

@worn canyonbut its dash not sprint

[hollow stratus]

One hit

[stuck sandal]

Seeing the bar get filled up when I don’t get hit makes me happy and I don’t know why

[cerulean sable]

id go farther and say wanderer should only have 1 blue tool

[worn canyon]

Yeah but it increases movement speed

[cerulean sable]

that or nerf the damage

[dusty cypress]

actually accurate ngl

[heavy meadow]

It would be so fire to see the steel assassins appear in the steel city and maybe even we see another steel seeker

[austere cloud]

in the future

[cerulean sable]

the on top crit chance is fucking stupid

[tawny palm]

im missing 3 spool fragments how can i tell which ones?

[native canyon]

it'd probably still be the best...

[coarse leaf]

If you guys had to give 1 buff to reaper crest, what would it be?

[worldly umbra]

@worn canyonoh

[hollow stratus]

But I like gambling

[cerulean sable]

maybe

[stuck sandal]

Ngl I don’t even use spells in boss fights

[normal summit]

1 more blue slot

[empty salmon]

Atk speed

[native canyon]

when I learned about the crit I was floored why the fuck did they give quick slash a crit chance

[worn canyon]

Like they’re technically different but they occupy the same niche if you know what I mean

[delicate grotto]

Guys how would you rank: White Palace (no PoP), Mount Fay, Cogwork Core and Abyss climb parkour?

[winter thistle]

reaper deserves a bit of a damage buff in compensation for its lower atk speed

[dusty cypress]

yeah i was thinking the same

[heavy meadow]

I would find this so enjoyable

[gaunt shuttle]

abyss climb tops over all

[native canyon]

they gave quick slash a crit chance, now they're buffing cross stitch damage what the fuck is wrong with team cherry and their balancing

[worn canyon]

I think something that gives more manuverability of the dash would be useful though

[delicate grotto]

I just did abyss climb and it was absolute cinema icl so good

[hollow stratus]

None
Keep it as the noob's crest cuz everyone else will be enjoying wanderer, shaman, witch

[dusty cypress]

best reaper crest use: flea juggle

[worn canyon]

Like a diagonal dash

[stuck sandal]

I’ve learned that spells are too risky and I just beat up enemies with my nail

[native canyon]

enter pharloom...

[terse stone]

I don’t use skills because I suck at the game and need healing

[mortal lichen]

hunter: nohit with barbed bracelet
beast: abuse pogo iframes and stack bind buff with flea brew and flintslate
witch: claw mirrors and injector band
architect: overdose on plasmium and make use of charged attacks
shaman: thread storm + volt filament
wanderer: literally just existing

[karmic radish]

Witch crest my beloved

[native canyon]

beast is better for flea juggle

[split urchin]

holy shiiit gggggggg

[heavy meadow]

More silk orbs on hit

[dusty cypress]

is it?

[native canyon]

yeah

[stuck sandal]

It’s just that it’s engrained in my brain that I play better when I don’t try to do spells, I beat radiant nkg that way

[hollow stratus]

But what if
You kill em faster than you can die

[heavy meadow]

Act 3 now

[native canyon]

reaper up-slash is dogshit

[split urchin]

this was my first run that i got past choir btw

[heavy meadow]

Spools

[hollow stratus]

Neutral is already good as a vertical Wacker

[native canyon]

god bonebottom is such a good track I fucking love it so much

[cerulean sable]

crit is so fucking stupid im sorry 😭

[dusty cypress]

it lasts forever tho

[stuck sandal]

Beast better

[cerulean sable]

Wanderer needs a flat out nerf

[hollow stratus]

Charged attack is shit tho lol

[delicate grotto]

FACTS

[leaden delta]

wp cogwork abyss fay in that order

[terse stone]

but what if

they kill me faster then they can die

[karmic radish]

Let the slashes actually wrap around so they can maybe hit things for once

[covert gyro]

MF BISH MFF HOWW

[cerulean sable]

because its TOO good

but now it should only be good

[stuck sandal]

Reaper worst crest in the game

[coarse leaf]

😭 🙏

[flint cave]

I keep getting pings from somewhere but I don't see any notifications, what is happening lol

[normal summit]

or make reaper's passive different, like instead of making it easier to get more silk, it's more like being able to execute enemies when it's below a certain hp, and generate high amount of silk that way while having its silk/hit regen lower.

It fits the whole "Reaper" name

[quiet cobalt]

Huh?

[cerulean sable]

use delver drill to kill the fuck out of the spawns

[split urchin]

also technically (accidentally) a no red tools run and the way I got speedrun acheivement

[zenith thunder]

why should i use silk spear which does 3x damage when i can just attack 3 times smh

[leaden delta]

wp clears all the platforming in silksong

[cerulean sable]

because the idiots only have a single vertical downward attack

[native canyon]

3x needle damage btw so it's as strong as a silk spear

[covert gyro]

NO THEYRE EASY SOLO

[karmic radish]

I hate reaper crest so much oh my god

[hollow stratus]

My steak is too juicy

[cerulean sable]

its so stupid

[winter thistle]

i mean ig the reaper crest's functionality is more lore focused

[delicate grotto]

Really? Thats an interesting list, I would go: Mount Fay, White Palace, Abyss Climb, Cogwork

[normal summit]

fair point

[winter thistle]

becs its in greymoor and that stuff

[dusty cypress]

OK OK BIG QUESTION WHICH CREST.....

HAS THE BEST NEEDLE STRIKE (ABILITY FROM PINSTRESS)

[stuck sandal]

This game makes me think team cherry hates us

[vivid belfry]

Best crest in the game should not be the lowest effort

[winter thistle]

architect?

[native canyon]

architect

[delicate grotto]

Whatever second sentinel uses lol

[normal summit]

gotta go with Architect on that one

[split urchin]

objectively architect but hunter's is my favorite

[karmic radish]

Even after the nerf it's still architect by a mile

[hollow stratus]

Depends
But reaper's is the worst

[tawdry cargo]

act 3 ||verdania's rooms oddly skip a bunch of numbers||

[coarse leaf]

My opinion, reaper has the coolest but the worst needle strike

[winter thistle]

fr reaper's whole thing is range and its range is so low

[stuck sandal]

Wanderers because I like lace and it looks like lace

[covert gyro]

mff bishh

[dusty cypress]

OK ARCHITECT IN DAMGE BUT WHICH ONE IS LOOKS

[hollow stratus]

Hunter is great if you want to lock yourself midair for longer to wack at air enemies

[zenith thunder]

what are the numbers for it pre nerf? kinda hard to judge damage withouta healthbar

[coarse leaf]

but archiest could also be cool

[normal summit]

still architect

[terse stone]

Why do you think it’s called Lost Verdania

[hollow stratus]

Wanderer being the best damage but shorter range

[karmic radish]

Idk I think like 100 something iirc

[native canyon]

mount fay white palace abyss climb cogwork core

[hollow stratus]

Architect was nerfed but still has a huge hitbox

[tropic apex]

i really want to hope that the high halls gauntlet will be nerfed someday

[split urchin]

vibes wise i really like beast crest and hunter (coincidentally my 2 favorite crests so i may be biased)

[zenith thunder]

it doesn't need a nerf

[mortal lichen]

maybe verdania was originally going to have more rooms

[delicate grotto]

My exact list lol

[worn canyon]

Wanderer vs hunter DPS debate is stupid I think they’re basically the same

[hollow stratus]

Witch is kinda disappointing since you have to actively spam attack while spinng on the ground so you're very vulnerable

[stuck sandal]

You are wrong

[winter thistle]

witch crest is so cool too

[coarse leaf]

Objectively wrong

[normal summit]

high halls gauntlet doesnt need a nerf, just

[mortal lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/reaper-crest-silkpost-silksong-average-average-reaper-crest-user-gif-11428658938507077422

[hollow stratus]

Shaman has a pretty big hitbox

[karmic radish]

Witch will forever be my favourite crest just because it's so fun but I will die on the hill that hunter's crest is objectively the best

[mossy basalt]

hold on let me fix this

[inland igloo]

how many tries did it take you guys for the rising lava

[dusty cypress]

reapers crest needle strike looks goo but its really hard to use

[covert gyro]

i always use the fast one

[split urchin]

errrm you're like the nerd and you're a yellow ball because you use other things im the big muscular man because I use this thing

[terse stone]

mount fay my beloved, I love that there’s also no bullshit enemies and it’s just raw platforming

[winter thistle]

witch crest isnt even like too op i would say

[native canyon]

including the other 2 significant platforming challenges it's pop, surface climb, mount fay, white palace, abyss climb, cogwork core

[cerulean sable]

tbf i feel like Silksong's platforming is much more integrated across the game and it doesnt really have a WP/PoP equivalent

the problem with White Palace is that HK had interspersed difficult platform challenges so WP spike was insane

if HK had 3/10 platforming segments and WP was like 8/10 in difficulty (relatively speaking)
Silksong gravitated between 2-4/10 platforming challenges in the environment and the WP (Celeste) equivalent ends up being 7/10 but even thats nto as long

[coarse leaf]

Honestly the only thing i liked doing with reaper crest is being able to have the easiest pogos ever

[stuck sandal]

I think silksong is so hard because every time someone said hollow knight is easy, they made Silksong 1% harder

[karmic radish]

The game was just so clearly designed around hunter's crest's moveset

[worn canyon]

You are not him ong

[winter thistle]

imagine a tool for a larger AoE on witch

[leaden delta]

I probably swap abyss and fay, but yea I don’t think silksong platforming is that crazy

[hollow stratus]

Not even that good of a damage lol
The hitbox is just very awkward

[mossy basalt]

fixed

[hollow stratus]

Not even that good at attacking vertically

[dusty cypress]

yep

[leaden delta]

closest it gets is cogwork core, where it feels like it’s ramping up and then it just ends. it sucks

[karmic radish]

Better, now replace reaper with hunter and you've got it

[split urchin]

i feel the same

[stuck sandal]

Witch + claw mirrors and multibinder go brrr

[leaden delta]

wp clears all the silksong platforming

[coarse leaf]

your forgetting hunters (no upgrades, no tools)

[delicate grotto]

True yes I feel like WP got me good at platforming in the first place (best ost in the game btw)

[hollow stratus]

And the hitbox takes long to register

[native canyon]

silksong platforming is way more fun than hollow knight imo but path of pain is still the best we've got

[terse stone]

I loved silksong’s platforming, but I didn’t particularly care for Hollow knights, it just wasn’t terribly interesting

[stuck sandal]

And hunters crests because more damage the more you hit

[dusty cypress]

dont forget injector band

[winter thistle]

my main issue with witch is its so bad in some bosses cause theyll just dash away from your AoE

[stuck sandal]

Yes

[light swan]

beast and witch look the best imo since they actually have unique cool animations for binds and witch is just so dynamic

[normal summit]

that's why you need to time it and learn their pattern

[karmic radish]

Witch crest also has awesome attack visuals

[native canyon]

idk I replayed hollow knight and did white palace just yesterday, it didn't feel as fun as it used to lol

[coarse leaf]

Wanna know what i love about beast crest? It having its own taunt animation

[fossil reef]

reaper would be good if upslash and the attack speed were fixed/changed, and maybe the 2nd swing of l/r slash bc its the bottom half but its not nearly as bad as upslash

[light swan]

hard agree

[terse stone]

I love how most of silksong’s world is filled with platforming challenges

[covert gyro]

im addicted to SS

[native canyon]

path of pain is still peak though, love that

[stuck sandal]

Only?

[coarse leaf]

same

[mossy basalt]

ok i REALLY fixed it this time.

[dusty cypress]

only 61

[karmic radish]

Yeah witch actually requires you to properly learn heal openings

[light swan]

yea for sure it’s super awesome lol

[fossil reef]

more usable actually, idk if it would be good but id think at least a bit bc of the bind stuff

[worldly umbra]

this is an interesting tool idea?

[covert gyro]

well ive been busy

[zenith thunder]

now i have even less reason to revisit the og hollow knight

[native canyon]

the super hard dlc platforming challenge for silksong will be an 11/10 trust me

[normal summit]

which makes the fight more fun honestly

[ornate torrent]

does lost lace's triple slash attack have a clear telegraph? it's the only one i really get hit by

[austere cloud]

based

[dusty cypress]

ok fair enough

[mossy basalt]

ikr

[stuck sandal]

True

[cerulean sable]

Yeah i prefer moving around in Silksong as well, i guess the arguement is more on the difficulty side

[fossil reef]

it better be

[covert gyro]

how many hours u have

[terse stone]

I plan on revisiting it after I 100% silksong

[normal summit]

why does that look like 2 anchovies

[mortal lichen]

this would be too powerful on wanderer crest

[exotic dome]

as a representative of witch crest we don't agree with this

[dusty cypress]

80 is silksong and 150 in hk

[hollow stratus]

I love hollow knights tbh
It has the certain challenge with the pogos that I love
I feel silksong is limited in creativity due to it being limited by its cool mechanics that limits level design potential (waiting for path of pain dlc) rather than having simpler basis like hollow knight where ye, mega man already figured this shit out lol

[austere cloud]

its insane how much of a difference the harpoon does on first sinner

[worldly umbra]

@normal summitim a bad artist

[ebon grotto]

Not really

[cerulean sable]

Mt Fay/Cogworks is a fraction of WP's length but imo its way better for pacing

[native canyon]

in terms of difficulty I feel like it's no contest considering wp and pop's length

[stuck sandal]

No hunters crest because it would build up the damage buff twice

[mossy basalt]

thats what you get for saying i should replace amazing reaper with ..ew, hunter.

[mortal lichen]

actually no, use it on beast crest with flea brew and bind buff

[light swan]

can we be both representatives 🥺

[normal summit]

better than my attempt at drawing circles anyway

[proud reef]

hi

[light swan]

i was called expert on all things witch crest earlier today which makes me feel confident in my supremacy over this crest

[terse stone]

I thought it’s over reliance on spike pogo’s just felt annoying to play

[cerulean sable]

WP was a huge whiplash on my first playthrough, cuz most of the platforming in HK was relatively simple

then HK said "ok remember how most of the gameplay you had is killing shit? well heres a fucking different difficulty spike" and it did feeling jarring ngl

[hollow stratus]

I need them to sacrifice a red tool slot and replace it with a blue one...

[cerulean sable]

Definitely

[native canyon]

yeah white palace is fun but I vastly prefer the silksong approach where the significant platforming challenges are spread apart instead of just all being jammed into one lategame area

[ebon grotto]

Silksong bosses aren’t as telegraphed as HK ones

[jovial kettle]

rookie numbers

[stuck sandal]

Look at my new name

[exotic dome]

👍👍👍

[normal summit]

i rarely even use my red tools these days

[fossil reef]

bilewater is horrible and should be banished but yall cant lie bilewater music is amazing

[mortal lichen]

why would you want to rob beast crest of its insane buff stacking capabilities?

[light swan]

they’re faster for sure, but hornet is faster too

[covert gyro]

what is THIS SKILL WHERE DO I GET IT

[hollow stratus]

That's what I loved about it tho lol
Really stood out to me compared to every other platformer
Where the attacking tools are also your platforming tools

[dusty cypress]

thread storm?

[fossil reef]

threadstorm?

[light swan]

you copied me smh (i don’t mind tho)

[mossy basalt]

..thread storm?

[stuck sandal]

Thread storm, it’s in greymoor

[exotic dome]

top right of greymoor

[normal summit]

that's like super early

[native canyon]

like my post-ss hk replay opened my eyes to how weird hk platforming was, the hardest challenge I can think of pre-wp, and basically the only one, is the room before crystal heart

[terse stone]

the place where you can find those fucking birds that I hate

[proud reef]

i like hunter's crest or the crest you start with:)...AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME NYAHAHAHAHAHAAH

[hollow stratus]

Blue

[covert gyro]

bruh what

[ocean bridge]

i would sacrifice beast crest’s silk slot for a blue slot

i need my sawtooth circlet dedicated slot

[stuck sandal]

I like it more

[native canyon]

sorry, the room containing crystal heart, same room lol

[worldly umbra]

@covert gyrodid you like not explore at all

[cerulean sable]

Yeah agreed, i enjoyed WP's mood/atsmophere/music and did come to appreciate the challenge

but fuck man the game doesnt do a decent job to prep you for it so it comes off like a difficulty cliff whereas Silksong has them all integrated throughout the game so you're naturally building up traversal skills all throughout

[bold seal]

I didnt believed myself but i did it. First try

[mossy basalt]

welp, it was fun to get a bounty out for me by every hunter crest player, but i must go and edit

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-silksong-dance-hornet-dance-hornet-silksong-gif-3654151901745923854

[proud reef]

THEN WE MUST DUEL TO THE DEATH!

[light swan]

sawtooth circlet mentioned my beloved

[covert gyro]

i might have it and yes i try to explore very single inch

[terse stone]

I think I remember the climb to the top of crystal peak being a neat platforming segment

[fossil reef]

chill tf out god damn

[stuck sandal]

But did you beat ||lost lace|| with only hunters crest melees and no spells

[light swan]

i should low-key replay hk on pc i wonder how different it would feel since i originally played on switch

[ebon grotto]

I did

[native canyon]

not really platforming in the same sense as crystal heart or wp

[mossy basalt]

lost lace sounds like itll be so cool

[proud reef]

huh who he?

[fossil reef]

sounds like torture on switch

[stuck sandal]

Oh uh you’ll see

[cerulean sable]

HK's WP is akin to a kid being thought how to do basic first aid and suddenly youre pushing them to treat a severe gunshot wound

[covert gyro]

YH I MISSED IT

[dusty cypress]

NOBODY TELL HIM

[normal summit]

oh it's super

[terse stone]

City of tears is my favorite area in the game but it’s platforming segments aren’t anything to write home about

[bold seal]

||I did it without only hunter + spell (no red tools) ||

[hollow stratus]

Idk about you but the centipede room in deepnest was peak

[light swan]

i can still probably do pure vessel radiant on switch after a couple attempts, NOT the case on pc probably

[deep beacon]

what build is this?? this is genuinely insane

[mossy basalt]

but also pain

[native canyon]

strange comparison but honestly it's perfect

[dusty cypress]

EVERYBODY SHUT UP ABOUT THE SILKEN VOID CHILD

[fossil reef]

why did you take the time to do that?

[terse stone]

It’s like, basic ass jumps

[mossy basalt]

lace is so gleefully muredrous its perfect

[ocean bridge]

beast crest + flea brew + flintslate + sawtooth circlet

[proud reef]

uh um okay? im at the fourth chorus?

[coarse leaf]

i actually played hollow knight and ss on my pc and honestly its not that difficult other than the fact i might accodently press the wrong keybind and screw up

[stuck sandal]

You’re spoiling it too much

[mossy basalt]

EVEN IM PAST THAT

[tidal wave]

Has anyone done the math on how much the pollip pouch actually increases overall dmg for all tools?

[rustic quail]

question
would yall prefer to live in pharloom or in hallownest? pharloom is technically kind of less fucked because the sun isnt trying to orange juice everyone, and i bet you living in freed bellheart or bonebottom wouldn't be too bad, but dirtmouth is just basically entirely peaceful compared to whatever the hell happens in bonebottom

[deep beacon]

makes sense

[hollow stratus]

I need em to bring back down + a

[light swan]

note that turning around during the animation doubles the damage (as far as i know) and recently got buffed so im actually so happy people are using it now lol

[coarse leaf]

we talking before the infection or during it?

[terse stone]

Hallownest tbh, assuming I could avoid getting infected

[dusty cypress]

sir i recommend leaving this discord until a later time where no one can spoil anything (including me)

[hollow stratus]

Circlet feels so useless when you're accidentally going above the enemy hitbox

[gloomy delta]

Oh my god. 1 mask left on seth. By far the closest I’ve gotten to losing this steel soul run, first boss I couldn’t just beat to death, had to really lock im

[light swan]

because the game and bossfight is fun?

[mossy basalt]

put me in the hive, i refuse to elaborate

[native canyon]

yeah when I say hollow knight backloaded all of its platforming I meant ALL of it, basically none of the areas besides the one room in crystal peak have any significant platforming challenges lol

[rustic quail]

pre infection but everyone in hallownest seems a lot more soulless

[gaunt shuttle]

multibinder + clawmirrors + injector band

[proud reef]

ok?

[austere cliff]

is this question considering both places after the game's 100% endings or w/e?

[fossil reef]

ive barely touched it on pc and im on my pc right now, i played hk on xbox and it was the same on ss, im sticking with it forever but ive tried just running around and exploring on pc and its confusing bc the controls, even after i changed them to what id think i want

[native canyon]

meanwhile silksong you've got tons of rooms that let you utilize hornet's moveset wonderfully

[mossy basalt]

even i recomend that and i just killed moorwing man

[rustic quail]

w/o

[proud reef]

i'll stay but i'll just check hk chat okay:)

[light swan]

which is why you swap to witch crest and pogo after a double jump, essentially pulling your saw into the enemy (and maybe hitting both sides of the hit box too i think for 52 damage)

[normal summit]

oh you're very early. i recommend closing this discord. there will be too many spoilers for you

[dusty cypress]

the economy in silksong is cooked

[jovial kettle]

bro im adicted to the throwing rings

[rustic quail]

you want to be friends with the bees right :D

[fossil reef]

still seems crazy

[winter thistle]

how

[ocean bridge]

oh shit it does? no wonder, holy shit we got valid RBAIR use cases now in skong

[mossy basalt]

food source.

[normal summit]

it just shows that PK is a better governor