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It sucks we don't get to see how Pharoom is after we saved it from the Abyss and GMS
imagine lace mode, it shouldn't take that many plot tweaks for lace to swap places with hornet
or a portrait of ruin esque sequel where you control both hornet and lace at the same time
first sinner, second sinner, third sinner (and add fourth chorus for absolutely no reason)
||The first, second, and third sinner|| is insane work π
nah its

pfft
yeah that's going to be beaten on radiant by tuesday
The void spreads on gms strings and is able to control them i think, gms puts up resistance but sheβs wastly overwhelmed by the void even before she gives up to save lace at the end
yes
void kills those who it corrupts but lace is made of silk so she lives

holy shit dude
and garmond is a gigachad
and the fucking ||knight cameo|| ??!? team cherry cooked bro
Also this ups the void gods killcount to 3

he died thoπ
now do speed completion >:)
i was so confused when I first saw modern || karmelita ||

no...? no he din't
im going to add shared health, phase sync and all die at the same time so you dont fight 2 while in the dark lol
how the hell has she not fallen lmao she literally falls during your fight with lost lace
He's a gigachad even in death
She is so tall lmao
is this the wish?
act 5: the return of the garmond
guys didn't you know act 4 came out?
y'all garmond is not dead dawg

no, i have no idea what's happening in your save file for the thing to not be available
FIRST TRY BABY LFG
thr fact this emoji gives lace pupils bothers me...
I love how the first sinner rocks up a dress before tearing Hornet to pieces.
If she's gonna kick your ass, it's gonna be in a stylish way.
yeah he's sleeping
She wants to protect lace
If lace wasnβt there and she got caught by the void she probably wouldnβt have put up that big of a fight against it as she does ingame

working on that
rn got drifters cloak 22 mins on my save file
What wish is he looking for?
wghere do i go to buy the mask
whats the wishes name? maybe i took it before
Guys which boss did u enjoy fighting
theyre getting ready to group girl boss little hornet
up
I enjoyed fighting the witch
this bothers me even more π
it would've been lace saving lost hornet
which would be a great scene for lace mode
there goes my good sleep
|| abyss escape || had to be one of the best platforming sections I did in silksong
4th time in LLs phase 3 and i got pretty far i think
i can.t go up
i alr know that i will be raging soo much when i get to it
yeah im starting act 4 now
PEAKPEAKPEAKPEAK
show map
i had trouble at first but i love it
Aren't there just 2 phases?
ah yep the abyss to deep docks path of pain
blistering boltkeepers
ok found it
4 phases.
Idk the name but it's for starting the flea festival
it was way easier than pop imo, i beat it second try
no? the normal phase, them she screams, and then when those abyss waves come
who even is the Herald 
It's not even Path of Pain, more like Walkway of Slight Inconvenience
oh fuck...
She screams after the abyss wave too???
some dude from the first game who had the same quest
time to go back to fighting groal
what should i replace for mask
I havent gotten that far yet
The flea festival starts upon going to fleatopia in act 3, if that didnt work theyβre fucked
Unless they miss a flea
i'll never see chapel maid the same ever again
yep indeed is peak SUCH A GOOD SECRET QUEST
the surface momento is route of discomfort
wdym im fucked
my mom
... oh-
the mushroom
what is ending_B, there only seems to be a c d and e
She screams during phase 1 , leading to phase 2 where she starts using the void attacks
Then she gets defeated once and the abyss wave happens and she gets back up
the surface bugs are so weirdly eerie coz they aren't bipedal nor sentient at all
Can confirm the sprintmaster glitch works
tbh during late game it isnt as good as early game
replace mirror
and go to weavenest atla
all mementos is such a grindddd but it was worth it
Anyone got a karmelita save
That if you collected ALL fleas, are in act 3 and visited fleatopia already( as in, visited it during act 3) but the event doesnβt start, your save might be bugged
btw were the weavers the first to rule pharloom?
The only grind ones are hunter and flea
Mout Fay is Hill of Ouchie
b is a scrapped ending where || GMS binds hornets power instead of hornet binding her power, GMS transforms into something similar to hornet and haunts pilgrims afterwards, thats all we know about this ending so far since it got scrapped later ||
ye
No.
cuz otherwise the name pharloom doesnt make a lot of sense
he said something abt a bellart wish tho, i havent done a single act3 bellart wish
since its obviously related to thread/silk
where is this info found?
Isn't this horribly scuffed
who was first then?
The carnival starts upon going to fleatopia in act 3, the wish is activated once you get there
i feel like sprintmaster deserves a dlc cus we didn't do much just race 3 times and a fourth time that was 6 laps maybe a dlc with meeting the dashmaster????
Ehhh works well enough for the act 3 bosses
this was found via datamining the game, some players found a way to trigger the ending via editing the game
oh ok but whats the wish
Ok how do I install the mods
There a glitch with sprintmaster where if you afk the beginning of the race and let him complete all the laps before moving urself; it wonβt count as a loss and you can finish the race and it counts as a win
Ima try the Speedrun Achievment - Wish me Luck!
wow guess people will just keep telling me to save the world huh
Hear me out, it's for an ending where Hornet doesn't bind fast enough.
like download, then what
Dashmaster would be revealed to be Sans Undertale
I forgot the name but it gets activated automatically
ohhh shit theres an actual mod already?? nicee
pharloom (actual size)
We don't know who was first. Earliest we know is when it was ruled by people like Crust King Khann, Nyleth, Skarrsinger Karmelita, the Green Princes.
You need bepinEX first
i pray for the day they release a DLC where we can use an ability similar like Dreamnail
yeaa and it would be peak
What is that
the void so TUFF i bet i can squish it with my pinky toe
Is there a quest named (something) of beasts?
When looking at the game objects I enabled the wish granted prompt and that seemed to be its default value, was wondering if itβs a real quest
i think im fucked then
ok but none of those can produce silk right?
Forgot what the first word was
"It's a beautiful day outside."
No.
cuz usually a country is like named after its ruler or smth like that so yknow
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/BepInEx/BepInExPack/
this version specifically is easy to install and manually use mods with
Theres also the github one but the install is harder
@twin tulip
i feel like mr mushroom is doing something that hasn't been uncovered on why he is travelling to all of these kingdoms
to be honest it could have worked similar to sealed siblings, if you take too long to || activate the snare or take too long to bind GMS || you would have gotten that ending instead
finaly 6th health
I actually thought she was another pinstrees at first. Until I found the 3rd one in the ducts
hopefully hk3 makes sure all the lore is uncovered
Also it was ruled by GMS before the Weavers.
Maybe they ruled at the same time.
Like seperate states.
Damn I thought i had more
human, i know you're silksong
did hk come out after undertale? why was there a sans and papyrus reference...
dude i was SO shocked when i saw him because he is the sprintmaster charm from HK!!!
oh my bad sorry i have a hard time keeping up with the lore
We all have that moment
Hello! How i heard i can summons sort of helpers on fights. It is real?
(sound on)
fire dud
no he's not. he's the dashmaster charm but his name in silksong is sprintmaster
where mod
easiest boss so far
Well kinda, its not elden ring but I know a NPC you have to interact with wich helps you during specific fights
i died in steel soul again 
maybe ill stop trying for now
no dud theres a sprintmaster and dashmaster charm dud
You can ask Garmond for help with Moorwing fight and either Shakra and Garmond can also help you with the High Hall enemy gauntlet
WHY ISNT THE VOID GONE I JUST KILLED IT!!!?!!?!
custom audio mod
the dashmaster we know NOTHING of but sprintmaster yes
They ruled separate areas, yes. None of these people ruled the entirety of Pharloom.
bro is NOT wing dings gaster of the hit TV show undertale
||lost lace ||is fucking humbling me
Much like hk you donβt get a post game after the true ending, it resets to before you killed the final boss
i know im kidding
Hollow knight was announced in the same year as undertale came out I think?
I think we will get 1 more hollow Knight game and thats it
Okay iβm kinda lying because you could count godhome as post game but you could do it before ever touching base rad
I know that? the sprint master in silksong is obviously the dashmaster charm in hollow knight? they're both blue. but the sprintmaster charm in hollow knight is red? are you blind?
Hk is 2017 i believe
UT is 2015, demo was 2013
don't be. it's lace 1 with a bunch of 2-damage random bullshit void attacks tacked onto it
I had the same but after some time you understand her and now its like i have Observation Haki βοΈ
Pablo.
is the phase where Lace does her flurry slash thing 3 times in a row the last phase?
βIts lace 1β
Look inside
Lace 2
WDYM THE FIRST SINNER HAS 1300 HP
Yes
Yes
@sick crater look the pink one is the sprintmaster FOR SOME REASON HE IS PINK BUT IN SKONG IS BLUE but the dashmaster is blue but in skong ???
so i got to the last phase 3 times already
what a glorious lineup
yea ik
the sprintmaster in hallownest liked pink
nice!
that's what im saying bro. why couldn't you just admit you were wrong the first time
i guess the dashmaster in silksong likes pink'
this is so fucking stupid
i like that one
Maybe they have different coloured bugs in each species.
wrong in what?\
Only cogfly was a summonable minion?
lace 2 is a way better boss
lost lace is lace 1 moveset but with void bullshit attacks that hide what she's doing
maybe the sprintmaster lived in east city of tears, that coat (thingy) color is very similar to it dont ya think
Why does the dashmaster looks like it remembers our genocides
groal is the worst boss i have everfought ong
I think cuz idk what "summons" could be
that cocoon doesnt look appetizing
you said he was the sprintmaster charm in hk which is wrong because they are different colors
Its not lace 1 moveset tho, its way closer to lace 2 moveset
And her attacks are well telegraphed
hronet, i remember you're genocides
imagine a dlc where we meet dashmaster and we get a better dash somehow
or we need to master sprinting and dash for something
dude my last judge fight was so cinematic, i just had 3 crits in a row
considerably shorter and easier, got to citadel with half the courier timer
is the telegraph in the room with us? coz all i see are fucking tentacles shooting out of the ground
this guy is cooked
Mmmmm lipids....
that was 2 hours ago whoopsies
no dud i meant the other one not him
Lwk you might just be bad at ll
Black flash type shit
he might die
but hey thats just a theory
a GAME theory
do it.
you misunderstood me
When the final boss of a hard game is hard
hornet dies cutscene
Every attack is telegraphed. The void tendrils from the ground are also telegraphed.
i already beat her hitless, that's not the point
it's just not fun
this bitch karmelita took my rosaries when i died in her memory
wait what
Idk i disagree, i almost got her hitless ( 1 hit) and shes very fun imo
what's there to react, it's like i'm playing with a blindfold half the time
I think first sinner is the only boss I've beaten first attempt
You died to Moss Mother?
what do you mean he was the sprintmaster charm in hk then?
I find it balanced
Fourth chorus?
sprint master swift = sprintmaster charm from hk
grass is green the sky is blue dogs bury their shit.
yes, I was really confused with the new pogo and couldn't find my bearings lol
bro overcame the fossil-ization
but they're different colors
I can confirm i had a dog and he buried his shit
even sick she slapped her
Happens to the best of us, I died to False Knight when I first started HK
HOW are we dying to moss mother
yeah that's what im confused of
The proof that a player can massively improve in skill:
I died to moss mother 3 times, but I now have beaten LL twice
moss mother toughest boss of hk
oh yea that one's also a bitch
especially with her being my very first hollow knight boss coz i never played the first game
she has the same telegraph (which is to say no telegraph AT ALL) for all attacks especially when she starts diving low and dealing 2 (nerfed to 1 nowadays) contact damage
team cherry does NOT explain this about the dash and sprint masters
I was really confused with the new diagonal downslash literally just said that
OH I get it now. did you mean he's the sprintmaster charm from hollow knight REGARDLESS of the color difference?
pick one
first reply decides it
@sick crater that's why i think we need a dlc for the sprintmaster and the dashmaster combined
flying
fr agree
yes because team cherry doesn't explain this
neighbour tryna make nosk
I died 3 more times to double corrupted moss mothers.
Wait she does two damage? When I first fought her she only deals one
flying
well
yay! now we've come to an agreement
augh
I disagree they are the same regardless of color. to me at least, color is EVERYTHING
She never dealt 2 contact damage, you might be thinking of the act 3 version
Sheβs voided so she deals 2 damage at all times
which means there must be some sort of cyptic message behind this sudden color change
that's what i said too the color doesn't matter
hear me out
he used to live as the higher caste in east city of tears
then he got downgraded to pharloom far fields
Heβs saying the color matters
NO IT DOES MATTER. IT'S THE COLORS SPLEM WHAT DO THEY MEAN
is there a mod where groal is deleted from the game
before i do a new run, quick question-
||do i get a whole new ending if i defeat GMS while having the witch curse on?||
just a hunch i'm having atm
holy shit you might be right since they all wore red clothes
how dare people call the LL fight booring and easy (still fighting her)
the color MATTERS!!!! ur gonna say that u would play coral tower if it was blasted steps colored
yes OR TC made sprintmaster blue because pink doesn't really match with the "tempest,speed,sprint" vibe
yes it's called the cursed endung and you get a new menu theme with it
You do, you get an achievement if you defeat her while cursed
hmmmmmm
i dont think sprintmaster swift was ever in hallownest but there might be a sprinting sport in bug kingdoms and hence
I wish there was like more character customization in hollow knight and silk song
interesting...
you can skip him with voltvessels
Do yall think Pale King is proud of hornet.
I mean, she can throw sawblade wheels now.
i should probably do that before visiting Yarnaby on my next run
Beast pogo...
SHE CAN BECOME ONE WITH THE BEAST CREST TOO
i do not
You do
Or just swim to the left out of the arena.
or maybe save the crying thing until i unlocked ||the Cradle||
Joke Answer: Absolutely.
Real Answer: He cares about the Hollow Knight more to care about Hornet
are you winning this
Would still be a better romhack than snakewood
how many times can i race sprintmaster
yes ofc gng
moss mother is most likely grass/water, you're sure to win with flying types
I saw like that each crest would change hornets appearence on somehwere and its cool af
now once again, rate my tier list of how likely hk enemies and bosses deal double damage if they were in skong
You can keep racing him as much as you want.
I despise double dmg (idm it just makes getting a 6th mask invalidating)
okay cool
I love it
I love Double Damage, makes it a lot more challenging
yes but do you agree with the list
what are the chances i make it
uuuu exciting
I feel like if there was no double damage the game would be too easy
Double damage is good for silksong honestly
Does anybody know the new damage numbers for sharp dart and cross stitch after the patch??
Do you need to perform the deliveries to activate act 3?
what should i replace with fraqtured mass
Yeah it's act not bad I'm nose being a bum
Yeah it seems pretty fair
claw mirror kinda trash unless witch crest
cool
no it's the normal damage in the game silksong = sequel = 2 = 1 + 1 = 2 which equals 2 damge which basically means that's the default damage of the game
||TROBIOOOO!!!!!||
the final boss is lace but voided you get a trip down hornets memory with lore drops the abyss consumes garmond and you kill him theres a second boss fight with trobbio get spoiled
Silk soul 2
spoiler machine activated
is beast crest down pogo deliberately made this way to make it bad
guys where do i get his other stuff
the room above
but how
they really think i am a milionare
climb
250 BROKIONAREEEE
This is just the early donations bro just see the midgame ones π
these enemies arent related at all but it wouldve sucked to get a 1 stage starter
also you got the moss mother
crazy part is the relic seeker scourge IS a fucking millionaire yet that bitch doesnt decide to pay for this
Killing the huge guard enemies above songclave with the thing that buffs your rosary drops makes them drop 54 per guard
BRO WHY AM I SO FCKING SLOW
50 per 10sec?! i dont have that area unlocked tho
55, actually.
is there an actual wiki for the enemies like this or no?
petition to make beast crest down pogo normal anyone
The pogo is already great.
No hunter is the best
like yea theres the silksong wiki but im adding the types and shit myself
I did him like 3rd try I think lol
Congratulations on beating second sentinel
can i replay the couriers rasher if i fail?
this shit is gas wdym
i wouldnβt call long wind up and quarter circle arc great
Yes, you can try as many times as you want.
For some reason I did almost everything 2nd - 3rd try
aight, thanks
my favorite place to farm is outside the cogwork dancer's arena because the big guys drop 55 each if you have thiefs mark
heh wheres the lace skin mod for skong heh
Since when does the beast pogo have a quarter circle arc? It's a buzzsaw.
i would use hunters crest if the pogo wasnt so dogshit π
It's fun to land and feels clean to land
You can use the Memorium bench for a slightly slower farm.
ragebait or stuoid
Also the sprint slash makes up for it
i'm excited for a randomizer 
Lace in DTI
That's why it's slightly slower. The bench is really close so it's just drop down, kill 1, go back up.
i really need a skong room randomizer rn
I wish they were harder for an act end boss
The way you farm in act 3 is literally just doing act 3
in the lore phantom is lace's older sister so i think lace is actually a phantom wannabe
who knows the mod for silksong that is im pretty sure is in the making where you'll be able to sing with sherma and yes you will sing his song
guys which image goes harder this or this
Phantom in DTI
phantom
GMS in DTI
I know what type of person you are
Why are you in a Silksong discussion channel if you don't want spoilers?
The definition of "step on me"
Just beat the true final boss after putting it off for a while, fun fight tbh I just wish ||she didn't teleport all the time, like half my damage taken was just from accidentally running into her||
use ||silks soar here in act 3|| im so smart for getting ths
brooooooooooooooooooooo
Same in hk (charge atks charge through rooms)
this
Crazy how dti cosplays tend to looks so much nicer without the weird faces
Definitely bro keep it up
I don't think they do I could be wrong tho
LL moving forward while parying is making my life miserable
modded? did you force-unlock all tools or smth
Fr tho
no? i don.t have all the tools?
hell yeah
Knight is hornets sister
Send me a vid/screenshot of Google I need to be sure
oh. are you just missing 4 total tools? damn.
Weirdo
hell yeah
What
Iβm ganna evolve it into a savage beastfly
U use tools on only bosses not the normal enemies that way u wont run out
Why not just get a Growstone? Infinite shards.
not a positive "damn". i got the tools requirement before even buying sawblades (which i only got in act 3 coz idk where craftlmetals are)
I think thats just for steel soul
the current team
Yeah, it is.
why is witch crest only healing 1 hp
ik bro but i was just speed running or sum so i missed alot
Don't most people play on Steel Soul?
Yeah fair sometimes bosses consume alot of tools
Like 99 percent dont
Btw why is lost most mother so easily missable
3 conch cutters to be exact
Ew i dont talk to bugs with less than 2000 rosaries
Like she's just kinda there
Because she doesn't count for anything.
guys theres nothing wrong in this video trust
At least Silksong requires less currency farming than Hollow Knight.
Nah
The unbreakable charms cost 36000 Geos.
Mossbag's Silksong bingo
ew i dont talk to bugs with less that 10000 rosaries
HK actually has the opposite issue where you end up with so much money lol
Holy mods
12000 each and thats for the endgame u dont have to get all unbreakable charms
What is "funky mode"
Hatsume mike? π
Silksong does need you to grind but not that much actually, if you know where relics etc are then the grind is pretty minimal
trust

Hey silksongers Iβm 20K in student debt can someone help feed my hollow knight addiction and gift me silksong through steam
Silksong doesn't even have anything that expensive.
Because its harder to gain the currency
weaver's will? also no extra tool slots, damn. im ngl i feell like yellow tools are mostly net neutral, like you could have all 12 of them (barbs excluded) and you won't really feel a thing
Only if you're very early game.
Insert multi binder here
Ok but ur point doesnt make sense its just unbreakable charms that cost 12000 each in hollow knight and in silksong you dont get alot of rosaries
the thing is i used a mod that when u kill lost lace it actually kills the void but its still kinda broken so it just reverts back to act 2
880 is not that much.
Grindle shop is expensive that greedy mf
No no ur comparing hollow knight , a game where you could get EVERYTHING in the game without grinding vs silksong where you are FORCED to grind for rosaries to get them. See the difference?
1800 Geo for Lumafly Lantern.
You can get unbreakable charms without farming?
i think this is correct
Hard mode is steel soul no ?
The hopper grind βοΈ
Forgot to mark hard mode
Mark zote too
Only feels bad on a first playthrogh tbh I bought it first because I didn't need any upgrades or charms
What's national dex
where was zote?
Secret zote ending
Yes you actually can i got unbreakable strength without grinding once since i put all my geo in the bank got most of it the rest i found some chests here and there that i didnt collect
What where
hunter's journal
shellwood technically references his sword
Secret zote ending
36000 Geo?
That's literally free lmao, false knight+mantis lords chests give you almost 1000 geo in itself
Oh yeah that was easy to miss
You are overcomplicating this yes i legit didnt have to grind (maybe on that one area with hoppers but that was like for 2 minutes max) even though everything in hk is hella expensive compared to silksong
If u breath in hollow knight u get like 3000 geo
this
Individual rosaries are way more valuable in silksong than HK's geo, there's geo rocks and huge one time sources like, everywhere
even if zote were real that's still no bingos
I wish it was real
That's just the radiance
flintslate technique: hollow orange
Radiance was actually pleasant to look at not this π
I'm saying that is the sun
I wish regular crests could lifeblood overdose without having to go a kilometer
Terrible boss idea, savage beastfly except it summons Bilewater enemies
are you sure?
Kinda wanna make this now actually
that would make architect crest underpowered because overdosing is one of the main things that make it good
how much more hp does LL have in second part
Dang that was sad anyway best boss in the game so far for me-
Exactly
and not the boss instakilling?
I think everyone agrees with that because THE BAD
PART IS THE PARKOUR
And mucked beastfly
impossible boss idea: polyamorous raging conchflies
i just realized... how does that thing even fly
Is this real
Just better
ll has 1800 hp (highest in the game)
Phase 2 starts at 1350 hp
Phase 3 (last phase) starts at 900 hp or half her total hp
i wish 
Itβs from Pantheon of the Beastfly
mobile???
Gulp
i saw a YT thumbnail the other day abt silksong on mobile, i guess it was real lol
ll also starts using her ultimate move at 450 hp or 25% max hp
sherma had the vision, he just did it to the wrong door
Yea there is like three
Why all traders get lost like 5 times in this game couldnt devs think of another quest
What is the ultimate move lol
Those are scams bro donβt. team cherry said to not engage with those
I might have defeated LL too quickly to even see that move
Still haven't reached that
Anyrad boss idea: polyamorous raging conch flys that summon bilewater enemy's and make you get mucked every hit while the floor is rising lava
PFFT
Wha-
Ok- π
I didnt get there but if it has a lore reason that is cool
Why is the knight looking like a cat xd
Are 20 rosary necklaces enough money to fall back on?
and once the lava rises to the very top you continue to fight the poly raging conchflies but with the addition of the eighth chorus: fourth chorus but with 8 arms and doubled attacks
:3
grimm reference
lolll yeah a lot of the quests in this game were disappointing, thats what knocks it down a bit for me in the rating.
would've been cool if we had more quests where we had to hunt unique enemies like the flintbeetles instead of just boring fetch quests
This is prolly real but its prolly aa mario ripoff that has either trojan or ads every 5 seconds
the runback to groal is js fucking diabolical
<@&328354344313421825>
And a smaller mobile fourth chorus
mods do smth
Why is act 3 actually so emotional ong
it's not a mario ripoff. what led to that conclusion? its a hollow knight ripoff for mobile that's 44mb
just wait for first sinner just wait
I liked the fetch quests like especially the berry ones where u have to parkour to get to each one but the meat delivery quest is just tedious its just a harder delicate flower
well that really unfortunate bud
gasp
Please stop spoiling-
and each enemy present in this encounter does a last judge death explosion when killed
Yes perfect
dude im so CLOSE to finishing silksong steel soul
this is the channel for openly discussing the game. if you don't want spoilers then go elsewhere.
Hello chat... Oh, looks like I arrived when someone said something bad
But one more thing...
good luck dude
No I'm alright with spoilers just not MAJOR
Mobile ripoff devs usually just ripoff the games artstyle and make a generic game like super mario bros clone
Your 100% gonna die at the final boss
1 melody out of 3, 7 masks, defeated trobbio
my point still stands, this is not the place to be if you don't want spoilers
not if I stock up on EVERYTHING
Alright
Dude people are causally dropping the true final boss name I think the bell beast is the least of your concerns-
Are you gonna do act 3 or just act 2
All of this is happening while groal is in the background screaming and the foreground is ll phase 2's foreground
you're right but you can actually attack and pogo and use vengeful spirit in this ripoff
act 2, I'll do act 3 in a few months or days
nice dude
incredible
Reasonable
I'm leaving
bro how can i get silkshot
Thats like really good for a ripoff game lol
you fucking shaw
Ngl that doesnt look as bad as i thought it would π
in the pantheon of soulslike metroidvanias i think this one's still the peak of final boss presentation
you absolute fucking shaw
and i cant even beat this bitch ass mf (groal) i legit died on his runback
Weavenest at bilewater
the only hard part is high halls gauntlet...and I'm pretty sure on good at that
nope its unresponsive as hell and the controls are janky
Fa Ri Do La Si Ma Net
Do Ni Pwana Voo Ri Net
Pi Na So Mi Ma Ni Se
Da Na Fun Su Low bo!
add those random GMS act 3 screams every few seconds for even more unneeded audiovisual noise

sherma is french
the presentation was there but i wasn't the biggest fan of the actual fight. think gameplay wise the game had better bosses to offer
Yes incredible perfect medium rare level shit happening here
I think shes just ragebaiting lol
Woulda been goty if he had something to do with the plot and died π

You should get a profile picture
i just realized, is he wearing a cymbal as a hat?
. . .

Guys I have a theory
are yous ure?
Im not even kidding (maybe about the dying part) but sherma had SO MUCH POTENTIAL to be used in the plot and he just ended up being a caretaker of like 2 pilgrims
cant have shi in act 3π
I'm sorry but these two does NOT give the same vibe
aight thx
fr but its the best act
also if you have architect crest and plasmium phial you can plasmium overdose and hide in the water in the bottom right of the arena to heal up, literally nothing can hit you there so you can go out, smack groal and go back into ur corner to fill up to full
naur its way too sad
One commits various felonys and one commits even worse various felonys
Glad to see the devs working to fix random bugs instead of actual issues like frametime of attacks being inconsistent. classic
just spamming tools
act 3 is really short
there is precisely one thing which can hit you in the corners of the soup and that's groal emerging from the soup after diving in
One is like "hehe" and one is like "huh?"
skong
you're right, but if you notice rumbling right beneath you just run away
ikr what % you at?
you don't even need to toolspam tbh
One is like "your next" and the other is like "your fucked"
rahh
73%
Real
Steel Heart time.
just backhand slap her and scream "GIT GUD!" follow hornet's example
soon π
Reaper AND Sands of Karak hater? Big L to me
idk what you're on, ||sands of karak is a good area||
Hunter in c? Opinion rejected
No it fucking isnβt
hell yeah
Hunter is underrated. It's pretty good when you're fighting hitless.
He's rage baiting chill
at least you're right about reaper crest, we can agree to disagree on sands
Reaper is ass
I REFUSE to believe you had THAT much trouble with her? almost everyone beat her first try she's easy as shit to learn and doesn't have annoying moves
Hating on reaper crest β
Wanting reaper crest to be buffed β
i'm not coral tower was dumb but sands of karak platforming was really fun
wanderer,architect,hunter are all S,beast if you like tanking bosses
reaper crest's sole purpose is being a noob trap
Driznit enjoyer right here
No
That is the first lace fight chill buddy
Maybe a stupid question, but why on earth can't we rebind the Dpad keys on a controller?
Keyboard gets instant shortcuts to the specific menu screens, which is pretty standard for the Dpad in games... I would also like that convenience option π
(mb spoilers)
i cant believe im saying this but reaper crest isnt THAT bad, its moreso situational.
my friend used it for bilewater arena and it actually looked really good for pogoing the enemies as they popped out the water
im sorry but reaper is actually just a crutch for people to get more heals since it generates hella lots of silk. but other crests have cool binding abilities, lifesteal, rampage, focus bars for not getting hit, increased silk skill damage, tool spam with a busted charged attack, fast and short attacks to squeeze in damage at every opening.
reaper has the slowest attack speed, all crests have the same needle damage per hit btw without buffs which puts reaper in a tight spot. its ability is the generate silk orbs when hitting stuff which is generally inconsistent in an actual battle. you'd be getting more silk by actually hust hitting the enemy and there is NO situation in this game WHERE YOU BURN SILK EXTREMELY FAST. reaper bad period
Lace 1 is easy
They should make it do more damage since its slower
It doesn't need a buff, it's popular for a reason.
is magnetite dice basically just carefree?
wait reaper is slower than shaman?
Then they should decrease the range too.
overall ranking of all crests in silksong (this includes the movesets,charge attack,tool slots,how well it does for bosses,gauntlets and in exploration)
1-shaman
2-wanderer/witch
3-architect
4- reaper
5- hunter (upgraded)
6- beast
worse
Reaper is the least skill most boring crest in existence
a very weak version of carefree, yes
Hell naw
Yes.
My 6h lost lace practice didnt go to waste
I havent fought her in over a week and yet I still first tried her in my speed completion playthrough, I was never even one shot.
baiting players with its easy pogo and extra silk after healing to use a crest with a worse pogo, the less dps and less silk gain than most other crests
it's carefree but a lot worse, yeah; also it buffs wanderer crit chance by a little bit
WHY IS WITCH CREST ONLY HEALING 2 HP
what exactly does it do?
Hunter is 1
Beast crest in 6? Opinion rejected
ok let's say it is a "silk issue" but man there are much worse bosses than lace. I'm sorry I was roo harsh with my wording but imo she's a very fun boss and has no bullshit moves. name one bullshit move she has and I'll concede (love her fights)
Go fucking jump into a silk snipper on 2 hp in steel soul multiple times and then stub your toe 439 times in anger
there is absolutely no way
wtf happened to it
Low chance to negate an instance of damage.
fire DLC concept
Beast is 1
Its only good against bosses,anything else its just so buns
How is beast last??
Reaper has the lowest DPS in the game.
yeah and all crests deal the same damage per hit without buffs regardless of attack speed
wanderer and witch being in the same tier is criminal. its like saying zote is as strong as hornet
havent gotten to sands yet in my steel soul playthrough, maybe my opinion will change then
the only thing that gets me a lot with lace is her forward swing and her jump having very similar telegraphs
so when you say worse it just means lower chance? is there any mechanical difference?
every time you get hit, the chance to take no damage from the next hit increases, resetting when it procs. I believe dice cap out at 20% and carefree melody capped out at 90%
I hope we will obtain more abilities in silksong dlcs
Although Architect is multi-hit so the damage can vary.
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it's just lower chance iirc
Only good against bosses,the tool slots it has are so buns,no blue tool spot,the pogo of it is difficult to adapt to,and for platforming its just not it
also shaman in first is insane, remember utility exists too you get shaman right at the very end game, whats the point of a good crest that is inaccessible most of the game, and wanderer is still more op ngl
it would make sense to have the dlc unlock after act 3
hunter below reaper is just stupid
Beast pogo is some bullshit
I changed my mind, THIS is fire DLC concept
Wanderer should be 8th place even though there are 7 crests purely because of how lame it is
and hunter is peak, everything you would want in a crest. Doesnt excel at anything but is amazing at everything.
lmao wow that's quite the change
what is happening
What is this supposed to even mean
wanderer is much better than witch simply
then again, the rest of all 3 of her fights are well-telegraphed and counterable enough that I can afford to just glue myself to her with well-timed jumps and heal up the damage caused by those rare moments where I jump into her own jump
ngl i really didn't mind platforming with beast crest on my beast only playthrough. Certainly better than witch or architect pogo, that's for sure
no way. forward swing is her pin facing forward diagonal while her jump is backward diagonal
However, git gud and it gets one of (I think the second) highest damage output potentials in the game
btw reaper has same damage as hunter crest, but the slow speed makes its dps absolute trash
witch has more range and the healing can one shot these guys
I only have time to notice that she lowered her pin and is making a sound effect
Beast has an amazing pogo you guys are just mean
ohmy god 7 replies im not responding to anyone now
She can teleport
Her attacks are way too quick. If you actually want to attack her, there is no time to dedicate yourself to the attack because all of her attacks are incredibly fast so you wont be able to dodge if you go for an attack.
She can do triple damage. If she does a jumping attack, if I go for a hit which makes me unable to dodge, she does contact damage for one mask and then immediately does double damage attack without me being able to get out
the hitboxes are wonky. Often times I parry her attack, pogo over her, but the attack still hits me after and does double damage
Her attack patterns are rng. In second or third phase, where she can chain dash attacks, she can interrupt that randomly, and there is no way for you to tell. Do I commit in staying in the air, thinking she will chain the dashes, and risk being caught by her jump attack? Or do I go to the ground, anticipating the air attack,but then get caught by another dash attack she decided to chain. It's so stupid
her instant parry is downright cheap. She barely has enough downtime for you to attack her, but a lot of the times she can do this insta parry move on you. And it happens IMMEDIATELY. She can finish her attack, I can start my own swing, and before my swing even connects with her, she does the insta parry which of course triggers for her. And then she can attack you from whatever random direction, for double damage. This is probably the move I despise the most, and the fight would actually be somewhat enjoyable without that, despite the other rng bull****.
And then of course, all of her attacks hit you for 2x damage, and if you fall out of the arena, you take 2x damage as well for whatever reason.
There is no reason for this tiny character to be hitting so hard, and also have contact damage.
Like, realistically speaking, Hornet is supposed to be this strong hunter or whatever - but she can't do any contact damage.
Just keep looking at her then.
i thought i went back to chess.com discord and was surprised to see this π
Itβs not even that hard to master its just a longer pogo
I FUCKING HATE GROAL
When are you going to use heal bud other than that
this wasnt a ranking based on rosary farming tho, witch crest bind can get you killed many times
here's a clip i've posted a million times in this server by now
yeah but i feel like reaper is easier to learn
even if i'm bad at reading lace's jump attack telegraph I think I can jump backwards to cover both the jump and the swings
unfortunately, unsolicited beast crest slander alerts the horde
its a noob trap tbh
Learn.
unless if you use it correctly
Lace 1 is not hard
Parrying is mandatory for this fight ??? π
this reminds me of those maps that at first appear normal but the more you look at them the more cursed it gets
No amount of skill issue can save you
oh, you can parry the lunges? that's cool
You can just dash away, then dash back in for a hit.
Hunter is good but like reaper is just wayyyy easier to learn and adapt with
it isn't
Well no shit lol (no disrespect)
Thank god
by that logic cursed crest is also a good crest if you learn to not rely on binding
true
whenever she goes upwards though try to go under her and upslash
Cursed crest???
yeah,but the delay when pogoing is trash
I draw the line at maybe moorwing but even thatβs easy
Although going under her is better when she jumps since you can get more hits.
doesn't really make much of a difference
Do you even play skong
any tips for the mist
yes
Unless ur talking abt focus hunter is pretty easy to adapt to
Needolin.
Lace 2 and 1 are easy
it just feels slow for me
use nedolin and
i like witch crest, but MAN do some people overrate it
is this ragebait
ikr
whatrs bro doing
in early and mid game yeah but late game the low dps is just gonna make the bosses take longer and get you killed, i spent a lot of deaths on lace 2 then switched from reaper to hunter and beat her in 3 tries
He blocked you
yeah just don't get hit and you'll be fine,but the reaper is just simply easier to use
You don't really have to adapt to focus. Focus is just hitting and not getting hit, something most people try to do anyways.
focus isn't even something you need to adapt to. all you do is dodge and parry well and the crest will automatically reward you with no thinking required!
awdym
On every single social media platform
cogflies to clear the ghost
Are u talking about first lace
there is the openings are just small. jumping attack can be punished as seen in the gif I sent. dash attacks are parryable as seen in the gif I sent again. always be on the ground as its safer and easier to anticipate that way. I don't like how you say "it's so stupid" like her attacks are UNREADABLE like brother this is the most pattern oriented thing in the world. you can dodge the insta parry via jump dodge and I think you just never bothered to learn her
Fight start: 0:17
Cool Segment: 0:50
Fight end: 0:57
cogflies for an act 1 area, good advice
Me every 5 seconds during act 3
Yes but if u have skill issue like me that focus is not getting used most of the time is what im saying@mortal lichen @drowsy hazel
i get into the mist while im at act 2 sorry
im still in mid game i think,i've got 2 melodies and currently witch and wanderer are carrying me,
hunter is very good but the benefit is not consistent unless ur really good
true
i wish focus buffed silk skills
I think u locked urself out of an ending by getting the witch crest
hi
even when I get hit a lot I still use hunter because I like the quick moveset and I'm quite used to the diagonal pogo now
ah now this ranking makes sense
would be an interesting playstyle to swap between building focus and camping spells
Ion wanna get the twisted child ending currently
Oh shes talking Abt lace 2?
Same reason diagonal pogo is just way too fun
the way i see it, you really don't need to play 100% flawlessly to get good value out of the focus passive. A 50% uptime is more than reasonable, and that's already a 12.5% overall damage increase
How do we learn if she moves so fast
that pogo is so so so good
Yeah, but it's not something to adapt to, just consider it a bonus if you last long. It's also good against enemies like GMS where you're constantly attacking so it's easy to build focus.
js get good dude
Unless if its needed for a platinum,then ill make a new save file then do it
diagonal pogo is amazing, the 55 degree beast pogo on the other hand is so ass
i wonder if in any of the dlcs, we'll fight the massive bug mentioned by hornet in the skull tyrant's entry?
Learn to git gud
you can actually break lace 2's ai by upslashing her
I think the only times I've regretted having a diagonal pogo was for the flea bounce minigame and lost lace fight
sae did you play Hollow Knight?
Yea
i found GMS leg
claim it
I am good. It's just that she's too fast
that's an arm
didnt take me more than like 25 minutes on any boss on my first playthrough in this game this sounds like a skill issue
Just move REALLY close to her hitbox and upslash
shaw
same thing
Beast pogo is some bullshit i just saw it and heal being rage and instantly removed beast crest
People who have not played Hk shouldnβt be playing ss
thats why its so low on my list,platforming with it is ass,like imagine your at 1 hp there is no enemy to heal off from so your just stuck at 1 heart
ape posting
That's her arm. She grabbed you and Lace cut it off.
pale nails!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then your not gud
Lace's moveset to me just seems like a straight copy of the Hornet boss
ohhh pail nails havent got a silkskill in a decate
That's an arm
its some curving lines
you've either not learned her attack telegraphs well or are drinking alcohol whilst playing the game
Every single attack is telegraphed.
thats an arm
same happens with witch crest tho????????
same thing bruh
Im not at lace act 2 but if a boss feels too fast its usually that ur not used to that boss
@vagrant rock in response to your message saying "How do we learn if she moves so fast", watch this video I made. It took me about 2 hours to absolutely perfect lace 2 fight and this NO HIT is the end result. We all start not good, but with enough time and effort we can all skong
clearly she isnt, seeing as almost 40% of steam players have beaten her
Lace 2 is much easier than people realize
Yeah but the witch crest has a better moveset and a better pogo with longer range so that makes it up
i challenged myself to only use beast and witch crest, and i can say their binds are dogshit rarely useful
its easy
ngl i'm more afraid of her than of LL
compared to some other bosses you have to face she is like a snail
|| ngl savage beastfly is harder than lost lace )
itβs a lot like Seth
witch bind is more ass than beast bind tho
"rage" is also life real (you hit them and you get health up to 3 per heal)
I agree.
bro where is them
my advice is just go into the fight trying to dodge and not attacking at all, just watch how she moves and see how it can be avoided
how about karmelita
I mean I good just not for this boss
have you checked your back pocket yet
I beat her first try ngl lol (tbf I accidentally still had cogs equipped)
In the Marrow, it says it right there.
I found lace 2 really hard but that was because I had to break this random habit I built of trying to dash or cross stitch whenever lace parried me (both do not work consistently)
Thats a cool concept but if ur like down to 1 hp thats just kinda useless ngl
iam in the marrow
Beast pogo is meant to be done from far away
I never found savage beastflies that hard idk why people hate him
nah bro
why would healing be useless at 1 hp
Then look around? There's some signs with the flea symbol near them.
Honestly I could get used to it
once Im done with steel soul I will do a beast crest only playthought to learn it cuz it can be really powerful
BOSHHHH
Usually at 1 hp you panic and wont be able to hit the boss
I accidentally discovered a glitch/bug
100 in 40 hour .?
Jesus Christ
gg
how many attempts?
40 hours of Steel Soul is crazy, how do you survive that long.
iam here bro
eh not really,witch crest binding is really fast and its rewarding,in the other hand beast crest you have to hit the enemy 3 times to heal which isn't really hard but if you get once while in rage mode your shi is gone and you can't heal,while witch crest feels like an instant heal if you hit it
3...
beast has the highest dps
Beast is insane
They are near the sign.
built different
"git gud" - hornet. Hollow knight 2nd final boss fight
I think ss is too easy. They should make normal mobs do 3 hearts of damage and bosses 5 hearts to make the game more balanced
Okay since you said it can be telegraphed
@uncut bolt we agree that shaman is the best crest tho right???
just spam and you win
making me feel better about speed completion
he probably did everything super slow and got most of not all possible upgrades he could
Itβs not even fair
I will git gud just not on the worst crest available
Ss should be on permanent steel soul mode
someone please do that thumbs up emoji reaction with wing gaster
i did literally everything i could excep mementos
how bad were the deaths?
did u just moved while healing ?
i never used it lmao but i will in my current playthrough once i get to act 3
100% steelsoul in 5 hours achievement when?
I wish I could be as good as you. I did Steel Heart in 16 hours because I could never survive that long.
Name checks out
panicking is something you'll have to weed out to use beast (and witch) crest properly. Low hp is not a reason to run away like a coward anymore, you just keep doing the thing you've done up to that point
they should force you into 3 gauntlets right after you get beast just to piss off the beast haters
And save quiting at or below 2 masks kill your run
Your mind will change when you git gud at the game and get general knowledge of metroidvanias
1st one was double damage contact twice on the big ant motherfucker in far frields, 2nd was to the steel soul exclusive boss
What does this mean π
do yall see the fit
is that boss mandatory
nope
Look behind you smh
and is it hard
im hyped to use it tho im thinking of putting threadstorm first, then silkspear 2nd then cross stitch third, then it will kinda be like the hollow knight spells, trheadstorm for rapid damage like abyss shriek, silkspear for ranged attack like shade soul, and cross stitch for iframes like desolate dive
Yes idk how
No, and it's not hard.
Exactly. Git gud πππ«π«ππ
when hornet says βgit gudβ π
sir are you ok
Me an intellectual coming to hunters march mid game as intended by god
okay good
Im skipping it until I have done everything (unless it doesnt appear in act 3)
i feel fantastic i have 1 achievement left and ive platinum;d both hk's
If ur like the first person to find it it might be game changing for speedrunners ngl
I think my saddest Steel Soul death was when Lace 1 hit me with her counter and I got knocked back into the lava and died
it might fuck u up cos u only got one attempt to know learn the moves just play super safe
I wish Cross Stitch did more damage. It's such a cool and fun spell for the second lowest damage skill in the game.
Completed all of silksong in 40 hours ?
i'd swap silkspear with sharpdart lwk
Bro got mods before beating the game π
yea but how- how have you done this
30 hours for the achievement.
Act 3 ending spoiler ||so when the pale king created the knight, it had restrictions such as no mind to thing, so after the knight returned to the void, didn't the void just devour these restrictions? Wouldn't this explain why the knight decided to help hornet?||
Ty for putting the spoiler sign
tool spam should be able to take care of it
yeah for shade dash, i would randomly alternate between them depending on mood, and rune rage would fit for pure vessel focus attack
Just found a game breaking exploit that allows you to get clawline in 7 minutes
Dw about it homie
absolutely
The vessels weren't pure.
Thanks
Yes
I only got the 2 steel soul achievements left
True
cross stitch gives iframes so its balanced imo
just apprence mods
Leave this channel if you donβt want spoilers, trust me
But the knight, our character in the first game was pure no?
did u follow a route for speed completion or just did whatever
Pls answer this question with yes or no -> ||i heard like in one ending we get to see knight from hk is it real||
i think its not the knight but the void beast or sth
It is real
Im fine with boss names and stuff but i dont wanna get endings spoiled
Appearance*
I just did whatever
I didnt even try to go efficiently I did a lot of silly stuff in between and ended up completing it in 26h
Yes
overpreparing in steel soul mode is peak
Yah thatβs the thing, they will spoil the endings
ty
Tbf im in like kinda the end of act 2 and i dont know anything about the story so even if they talk abt something in particular i wont get it prolly
When was it mentioned that the Knight is pure? It has a will at least. Also, it's not like the Pale King "put restrictions" on them that can be removed. The vessels are literally corpses corrupted by the void, he was hoping one of the vessels would be pure.
it's arguably the best silk ability
The damage is so low though.
By far
Hmuch is the damage
2.4x needle
It doesn't need dmg (btw it's getting a buff in dmg this upd)
cross stitch is good; it's not bad nor the best
it could do 0 damage and still be good
dude i used the ||soar were i got pail nails|| and now im in some bum ass|| path of pain||
thread storm:
the damage will stack up eventually and its just the best way of getting out of an ability that you failed to dodge
dw its not as hard
I never use the silk abilities just because of how much silk heal consumes
I'm not saying it's bad, just there's better skills.
thread storm doesnt give you iframes for 12 years on an extremely generous parry
That's best for dmg I'm talking util
i use reserve bind for this purpose
I would rather save the 0.5 of the silk bar for the heal
he's like 12 minutes into the game he doesnt know what that is
Whats reserve bind
i think sharpdart deals more
holy peak
ohhhh mb sorry
dont need those when everything is fried already
climb of cries 
Most of the silk abilities arent even that good anyway
Your gonna need skills trust me
how much dmg do cogflies do in their lifespan (max upgrade)
Isn't Sharpdart the lowest damage skill?
dwai for now, it's something u can get later on
THE HERALDD
Wdym
it gets a lot easier to use silk skills as you get more spool fragments tbf, but yeah i get this sentiment
That's silkspear
I'm talking util did you read what I said (also it doesn't have more I frames if that's what you mean)
Wait till you get a certain lategame crest
Silkspear does 3x needle dmg base, it's definitely not the lowest.
Just trust me
util?
any tips for the phantom?
yeah you need to learn how to manage silk
I didnt use them on my first playthrough but they carried me afterwards
Utility
Learn her moveset.
sharpdart deals as much damage as thread storm but like 10% higher
Yeah but the one im using does like 80 damage if i use like tool combo it does like 350 damage or smrh
I just fought with first sinner and I must say I have enjoyed this battle. In my first try I thought why I am unable to hit him he was parrying most of my attacks then after my second try I go to the nearest bench and changed my crest to wonderer and used only two tools 1. Dice 2. Claw. When I return I defeated his first phase I thought it was over but then I realised it's not over i died but in the next try I saw him healing in that moment I didn't felt anything but joy I was so happy because after a long time playing silksong i finally found the best boss I defeated him on the same try.
Iβm trying to do the ||royal crousier delivery||
And now I know how the pizza delivery guy feels when there is a 50% off if late discount lamoooo
when they do the cling thing, jump over them immediately
10 thousand dollars for a shirt
cross stitch has the lowest dmg
WHy do all final bosses have to have like 30 second intermissions between phases
Perhaps post this on reddit
no...?
threadstorm deals MUCH more damage than sharpdart, in fact it deals much more damage than any other silk ability
so you can heal or something idk
One weird thing in silksong is every single boss has like 2 phases lol
If you are able, equip ||silk speed anklets|| and spam the lung attack with hunter crest
The single slam attacks are a good time to hit phantom with that
Valid
Not complaining but it gets repetitive
https://youtu.be/4y41HXZc-ZA?si=XHFsNKmzlKCzwCB5 I was looking for the table but this video has the numbers
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bro has not heard about extended thread storm, that shit rips. also sharpdart is 57 dmg while thread storm is 80 (assuming all hitboxes hit for both)
Chat do you guys think hornet is a lesbian? I believe yes
Im assuming that sharpdart deals more damage since it killed an enemy one shot while when i used thread storm it couldn't fully kill him
I agree with the hornet dumplings
note this is a bit outdated now but still mostly accurate
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your assumption is very wrong
Send me that image i need it.
parry is the best ability




