sk-discussion

[final mirage]

I hope they bring it back through a sort of dlc. Sorta like what they did with the Green Prince area but more expanded

[deep beacon]

the green prince runback was absolutely the worst in the game for me

[timber anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/nermal-garfield-death-gif-3028471091899365042

[noble jolt]

Did you get the shortcut?

[alpine crest]

ig, but tbh they'd probably be as good; I never needed to use the piercing attribute of the Mt. Fay variant, y'know

[ocean quarry]

fuck, there's craggler

can i even get through craggler without sprint dash

[spring heath]

went all game without ever finding the cogflies somehow

[deep beacon]

agreed

[sick furnace]

There’s also a shortcut you can unlock at the end to skip the waves

[tight viper]

Why isn't it letting me ping moderator

[scarlet laurel]

hmmm

[hoary mica]

yes its still patterned but like if you just removed the third one it would be exactly the same as mantis lords. its just mantis lords patterns with a +1 mantis which is probably why it feels like that

[barren topaz]

there several platforms you can hide under so you should be able to

[tawdry sierra]

Ass jim is so hawt

[north cipher]

which boss are you stuck on?

[tame escarp]

Ah I get what you mean now

[austere cliff]

i put off raging whatever fly until act 3 out of annoyance. but you're not doing the platforming every time, rgiht? you opened the shortcut?

[tight viper]

<@&283547423706447872>

[final mirage]

If they bring it back as a glorified PoP, I’d be SO pissed

[tulip spire]

Khann is face tankable

[placid obsidian]

i had to go back way later cause i couldnt find the single piece of craft metal i was missing

[tight viper]

there we go, had to hit space apparently

[alpine crest]

Is it some phishing shenanigan or just that they posted a random-ass roblox brainrot game here?

[barren topaz]

probably both

[deep beacon]

honestly down to see it no matter what it is but yeah i hope it'd be a whole area

[ocean quarry]

btw what makes thread storm's size bigger? shaman crest?

[spring heath]

gonna do that later, enough gaming for now

[scarlet laurel]

the boss can’t possibly be harder than the gauntlet

[austere cliff]

ive seen a lot of people who don't take this path for that particular runback

[hoary mica]

i don't think anyone wants to click to find out

[green kestrel]

Actually, you can just throw yourself at it and theorycraft the gauntlet and boss icl, for one you can hit the shortcut after the third gauntlet, so if you die after that, you can always do the 4th gauntlet and khan without having to do the first three

The game's tough, yeah I can relate, but it's pretty well designed in my opinion

[alpine crest]

Good point

[zenith magnet]

I've done Green Prince now, it wasn't that bad but the runback felt stupid. I haven't done Coral Tower, I couldn't make it past the third consecutive gauntlet. I'm looking for other things to do but even the small things feel like I'm being mocked for being dogshit at the game. It's so soul crushing.

[tight viper]

I'm guessing it's trying to steal something

[mint raven]

who's idea was it to abbreviate silksong to ss bro 😭

[frigid dagger]

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[barren topaz]

i don't think it's size ever changes

[alpine crest]

So you beat the Green Prince? Hell yeah!

Now just do Karmelita, Seth & Nyleth and you'll be able to move on

[final mirage]

Oh of course it’d be at least just cool to see. What would be really cool is to see that guy that takes the place of JiJi in HK, I think his name was Jim or smth???

[hoary mica]

coral tower is def rough, have you tried witch crest for it?

[noble jolt]

why not just grab the bench inside the tower?

[austere cliff]

2nd coral gauntlet was the hardest of them imo. once i cleaned that up it was fine

[alpine crest]

Karmelita is hard but extremely fun (same with Seth, to a lesser degree) and Nyleth is great if you use clawline a bunch

[green kestrel]

Bro what, there's a bench to the right side of khan before you enter the coral tower 😭

[timber anchor]

my first groal attempt ended by getting spammed to death by the second phase of the gauntlet

[sick furnace]

Are you on pc?

[tight viper]

Didn't know there was a secret Pavo fight

[deep beacon]

there is a shortcut after you beat the gauntlet, so dont worry about that
however i do agree there are some moments that just... arent... fun? i get the game is supposed to be difficult but come on it just overdoes it at times

[austere cliff]

i was referring to the runback if you're still doing raging whateverfly

[spring heath]

clawline main. love nyleth's fight she was fun

[ocean quarry]

Nyleth is just Ascendant's Grip Training Simulator

[frigid dagger]

Yeah

[noble jolt]

no, that gauntlet is definitely one of the hardest parts of the game.

[scarlet laurel]

no way she’s harder than coral tower

[alpine crest]

went from like a D tier fight to a B or even A tier once I started using clawline

[barren topaz]

mid's grip

[noble jolt]

ah yea ok

[deep beacon]

only thing that kept me going through karmelita was her incredible theme

[placid obsidian]

eh about the same but i think gauntlets are probably more annoying bc you actually have a runback there

[ocean quarry]

it IS mid but compared tp other yellow tools, it's one of the best

[green kestrel]

Karmelita is a lottt harder than coral tower, but she's also a lot more fun

[austere cliff]

talking about the boss beforehand, i hadn't realized they were at the coral gauntlets

[tulip spire]

It’s not. He’s just not very mobile so you can just keep hitting him and never run out of silk. His attacks are slow and very well telegraphed. There’s a shortcut to khann after you get through three of the gauntlets but honestly he’s like False Knight difficulty at best

[alpine crest]

incredible theme + incredible visuals + incredible fight, what's not to love

Team Cherry cooked

[coarse leaf]

Invincible

[scarlet laurel]

are you sure

[final mirage]

Once you pass the gauntlet, it’s smooth sailing. The gauntlet ITSELF and Karmelita gave me a ton of trouble. After all the pain of the gauntlet, Khann felt super calming as his moves arent hard to dodge

[zenith magnet]

That's been my main one but I just can't use it because I get my teeth kicked when going for heals. I was having the most success trying to spam silk skills with the flea crest but even then, it just feels like I get hit by a chain of attacks and I'm gone.

[coarse leaf]

CECIL

[honest dome]

y🎉ay yay yay ya🎉y yay🎉 i got to act 2

[green kestrel]

Yeah I mean that's the raging conchfly runback, I used that one too 🙂‍↕️

[tawny palm]

fleas are awesome but i do miss grubfather giving me 1 trillion geo

[alpine crest]

the flea crest?

[tawny palm]

congrats!! things got worse 🥹

[austere cliff]

it still annoyed because you have to jump 859 times

[alpine crest]

how the hell did you manage to reach act 4 already

[honest dome]

i am aware of that

[placid obsidian]

false knight actually killed me in hk

[ocean quarry]

i died to khann infinitely more times than the coral tower gauntlets

and this is literally true because i never died to the gauntlets lol

[slim orbit]

khan is such a pushover dawg

[barren topaz]

actually how though

[coarse leaf]

do you guys wanna guess what i died on a 15hr steel soul save to

[tulip spire]

Do you have injector band and multibind on

[placid obsidian]

how come the fleas dont eat each other

[coarse leaf]

Khann is easy but fun.

[scarlet laurel]

i refuse to believe this, coral tower is the first part I’m truly stuck in this game, no way I’m letting myself get stuck on Karmelita as well

[noble jolt]

witch crest is definitely a bit rough without the tool that lets you bind fast

[final mirage]

The stupid green mosquitos that shoot the goop at u?

[honest dome]

infected vengefly

[hoary mica]

bro khann is easier than multiple act 1 bosses

[austere cliff]

really? that's interesting, he kinda just fell over for me. killed me once

[tawny palm]

they eat meat, we see them cooking moorwings and muckroaches

[ocean quarry]

shaman's pogo is insane for the gauntlets

also i just thread stormed every flying enemy

[barren topaz]

the walk to either forebrothers signis and gron

or the walk to the diving bell

[coarse leaf]

Vengeflys arent in silksong 😭

[honest dome]

mb i forgot ss was in ss

[tight viper]

Drapefly

[final mirage]

This. This is the best way to kill the flying enemies

[green kestrel]

I mean, coral tower is a lot more tedious, its a runback of three gauntlets at first, then one gauntlet and a boss

Karmelita was harder imo, but she was tons more fun

[spring heath]

karmelita was this game's malenia. although malenia took me days to beat. close to a week

[foggy tapir]

rate the tierlist

[north cipher]

I think I was stuck on coral tower for a bit but after I switched to reaper crest it became trivial

[alpine crest]

such a good boss

[uneven storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08UFRsAij98

[barren topaz]

is this ragebait

[austere cliff]

coral gauntlets are a lot easier if you can use the drills that spawn enemies to also kill existing enemies too in some waves

[tawny palm]

i beat both palestag and clover dancers first try but died so many times to basic verdania enemies

[noble jolt]

karmelita is not that outstanding in difficulty

[sick furnace]

@zenith magnet are you on pc?

[alpine crest]

what is this ragebait 💔

[tulip spire]

Sinner in B is top tier rage bait

[tight viper]

Randomly generated tier list

[hoary mica]

and to think we havent even gotten any dlc superbosses

[spring heath]

widow at F and bro was making fun of my list LOL

[heady rampart]

tf flea juggle so rng? why do i get the heavy fleas 3 times in a row and then the fleas just fall on opposite times at the same time

[ocean quarry]

like, legit, the only attacks i used in coral tower were thread storm + shaman pogo

[north cipher]

move the beastflys and groal to a tier unironically

[final mirage]

9/10, but having Huge Flea over 4th Chorus is a sin

[ocean quarry]

don't ever use a regular attack in coral tower gauntlets

[remote silo]

With every tierlist i see i get closer and closer to the last stage of groal-hate grief: acceptance

[zenith magnet]

Every enemy does bonus damage. Half of the bosses have unnecessarily long runbacks. Getting hit while healing is uber punishing. Boss roars while healing cancels it and takes soul?? So much of the platforming is so insanely tight. It feels like they've just said this game wasn't made for me.

[ashen linden]

There's one thing wrong with this

And the answer is in my name

[coarse leaf]

ur all wrong i died to a pokenabbin

[coarse leaf]

Why is Skarr so high

[placid obsidian]

nyleth and conch on the same level of phantom/lace/trobbio is insane

[spring heath]

depends how you approach the game. i wasnt using many tools

[foggy tapir]

i have a personal HATRED for widow you DO NOT understand

[zenith magnet]

Yeah, though I've been playing on Steam Deck.

[barren topaz]

L

[tame escarp]

I know this list is fake because nobody gives a fuck about the voltwyms to put them in B

[scarlet laurel]

screw Coral Tower, i’m gonna watch Peacemaker

[noble jolt]

well if you ignore the charm equivalent for the game then yeah it's gonna be noticeably harder lol

[round ginkgo]

how the hell did seth get 95 on flea dodge

[honest dome]

sameeeeee 😭

[foggy tapir]

ok wait i forgot where did i put trobbi-

FUCK MB

[tight viper]

In that one room where you have to go down to go up?

[alpine crest]

@zenith magnet If you're having a rough time with khann, just do the clover princes instead. And if you've already done them, then you just have Karmelita & Seth / Nyleth left :D

[coarse leaf]

He's just built like that

[coarse leaf]

nope

[final mirage]

Understandable, but the 4th chorus slander at it not being top tier is unacceptable

[coarse leaf]

just a regular one flying around

[barren topaz]

wtf is a pokenabbin again

[coarse leaf]

i didnt see it

[spring heath]

yeah i just prefer to learn the moves. takes longer wouldnt recommend

[coarse leaf]

and i was at 1 mask 😭

[lucid field]

its fixed now lol. my pc was having a seizure. I just restarted it

[coarse leaf]

Gigaclanker is A tier at best

[tight viper]

You remember the Karak room where you have to go down to go up?

[foggy tapir]

i fixed some problems are ya happy?

[ocean quarry]

i don't understand how fighting widow feels so much worse than fighting first sinner

they're basically the same boss lmao

[final mirage]

Isn’t it that black ball with leaves in Far Fields?

[barren topaz]

oh those guys

[zenith magnet]

Yeah, throughout my playthrough I've been switching crests depending on which one feels appropriate. The only one I've not been using really is the Beast.

[worn canyon]

I feel like people liking groal so much is just pushback to the initial massive groal hate. I agree that groal is overhated, but like, c’mon it’s not that good of a fight tbh. Also the runback and secret bench

[coarse leaf]

pro tip dont walk around on steel soul with 2 masks or less

[remote silo]

No put Groal in s tier

[noble jolt]

playing the game without the compass must've been rough

[tulip spire]

Tbf I’m not sure recommending the one act 3 boss with a shittier runback to someone complaining about run backs is super helpful

[alpine crest]

Jesus christ how the hell is the big skarr warrior, the SKULL TYRANT and the big flea there 💔

[hoary mica]

no they're not????

[final mirage]

Incredibly

[slender crag]

im not sure if this is a bug or not but i played the needolin in the spot where the old lady was in act 2 where she goes away and the music (not sure if its hers) still stays

[sick furnace]

If you’re truly not having fun (which defeats the purpose of a video game) just install a cheat engine table and mow down coral tower then turn off the cheats lmao it’s a single player game you’re allowed to cheat dw

[tame escarp]

4th chorus is such a sorry boss that you can leave the arena mid fight 💔 💔 💔

[ocean quarry]

ok to be fair i don't remember the widow fight that well

[alpine crest]

nah the clover princes runback wasn't bad at all. Only like 1-2 minutes, plus barely any combat if you just learn some nifty skips. The fight itself is def the easiest of the 4 hearts imo, too.

[final mirage]

Not all robots are clankers. This, my friend, is not a clanker

[spring heath]

no i use compass lol it wasnt a 'all or nothing' sort of deal. i had tools equipped but would only use em if i felt truly stuck

[remote silo]

First sinner but wose

[worn canyon]

Clover’s isn’t that hard though

[foggy tapir]

i didnt realize i forgot to move trobbio to s tier im so sorry

[tawny palm]

fourth chorus was awesome, however, its not only forgettable and easy, but it also feels unneeded and out of place

amazing animation and presentation tho, i love background bosses so much too bad we only have 4 of these (radiance, father of the flame, fourth chorus and grand mother silk)

[alpine crest]

And a pretty fun fight

[coarse leaf]

why do people say the savage beastfly whatever its called is such a hard boss when its not

[tight viper]

Some areas have dialogue for playing the needolin regardless of NPC presence, this might be one of em

[remote silo]

What about Groal twin?

[ocean quarry]

i'm getting mixed signals

[zenith magnet]

The runback and having to do the pre boss enemies every time was it for me. I'm bad at the game, I know that, you don't have to punish me so hard for it every time...

[coarse leaf]

silksong has no hard bosses aside from like 3 or 4

[slender crag]

thats pretty intresting

[north cipher]

Idc about the runback, it was funny, the bench after you beat him is funny. The boss itself is a solid fight, a tier.

[empty salmon]

What the relationship between bell beast and bell eater? Husband and wife or predator and prey?

[viscid tendon]

On my opinion, First Sinner is the best boss of the game

[nocturne grail]

What do silkeaters do in steal soul mode

[ornate torrent]

father of the flame was lowk a mid boss

[hoary mica]

the 2nd one

[barren topaz]

it's mostly a boss that caught alot of people off guard on like days 1 and 2 of release tbh

[alpine crest]

tfw Fourth Chorus took me more needle hits to kill than Lost Lace because they decided to give the 4th boss you face in the entire game 500 hp:

[foggy tapir]

this next thing im gonna say is probably gonna make someone reply ragebait but skarrgard was fun to fight

[north cipher]

you sell them

[tulip spire]

They’re an easier fight but their run back is like mantis lords bad

[worn canyon]

EXACTLY! Like hatsune miku is the straighr up OPPOSITE of clanker

[placid obsidian]

its because i keep jumping into his face
when i learned not to do that it became easy

[tame escarp]

sell them to an npc for bands

[final mirage]

Tormented was better imo. Regular Trobbio hurt mentally because I’m colorblind

[coarse leaf]

I have beef with him, I had to beat him with the needle only because I didn't know you could destroy the orange spots.

[ocean quarry]

bands?

[coarse leaf]

well thats understandable yeah

[foggy tapir]

oh damn

[tawny palm]

the boulder above him one shots

[tight viper]

Beads

[tame escarp]

cash

[remote silo]

I wish i wasnt on mobile so i could post that average first sinner fan VS average groal the great enjoyer image

[worn canyon]

Runback is abhorrent though hardly funny

[coarse leaf]

100+ hits to defeat that fucker

[final mirage]

I didn’t even know that existed until late act 2. It wasn’t that bad

[placid obsidian]

you're supposed to hit the explody things at the top

[foggy tapir]

so widow?

[tulip spire]

The fake bench made me laugh my ass off

[viscid tendon]

It's on mobile already?

[alpine crest]

Yeah, the skarrgard is fun, but widow in F tier
the big flea (who has like 1-2 moves) in S tier
Skull Tyrant in S tier
First SInner in B tier (BELOW the moss mothers might I add)
Phantom in C tier
and moorwing in F tier is genuinely baffling 💔

[covert gyro]

BILEWATER ISNT REAL

[final mirage]

It was pain and suffering (no pun intended)

[toxic gate]

[coarse leaf]

whats the hardest boss in the game

[ocean quarry]

this is the first time i'm hearing that 4th chorus can be killed normally

i thought you had to blow up the orange rocks

[north cipher]

its rough when your learning the game but once youre used to the game its really not that bad

[worn canyon]

The fight is like intolerable unless you A: get purity wreath or B: find secret bench

[hoary mica]

they're not the same boss

[viscid tendon]

But better

[noble jolt]

I don't know why you're deciding to play this game on mobile

[alpine crest]

there's a boulder?

[spring heath]

wheres lost lace

[tawny palm]

yeah he is the only background boss that sucks here

[worn canyon]

I agree tbh they’re funny but they shouldn’t have made the other one secrey

[tulip spire]

Karmelita if you don’t random bullshit go or beastmode on her

[remote silo]

I mean that rn im on mobile texting and i dont have that meme image

[zenith magnet]

Can you get Purity Wreath before Groal?

[foggy tapir]

the two bosses that have a spot in my heart, is widow and moorwing

and this spot? "I FUCKING HATE YOU", its called

[final mirage]

That’s what Groal fans are like. Absolute masochists

[sick furnace]

The final final one

[hoary mica]

flukemarm is ALMOST a background boss

[coarse leaf]

Lace was lost so she couldn't make it to the tierlist

[coarse leaf]

karmelita isnt even hard

[ocean quarry]

btw bell beast as a boss fight is legit F tier

[tawny palm]

yes when he enters second phase u can immediately skip it by hitting him with the boulder on the ceiling

[worn canyon]

Yeah but it’s like rare someone does

[tulip spire]

I had a miserable time with her lol

[tight viper]

I killed him normally the first time, I did find the boulder but he was 2 hits away or something so I only hit 1 of the 2 bomb things before killing him

[coarse leaf]

shes just slow to hit

[tawny palm]

i forgot that even existed

[hoary mica]

https://tenor.com/view/pinnochio-lies-lying-liar-nose-gif-4932260

[north cipher]

you skip the last 200 hp if you use the bolder above him

[alpine crest]

maybe Lost Lace? Either that, Groal, Savage Beastfly, Karmelita or someone like Tormented Trobbio?

[foggy tapir]

oh right

[final mirage]

So we lying now?

[tulip spire]

It took me a lot less time to beat LL

[alpine crest]

what

Welp, happy I did him the legit way instead of cheesing him; was more fun that way

[coarse leaf]

imo i think lost lace is the hardest boss in the game

[austere cliff]

ready 2 get roasted for my tier list

[coarse leaf]

Bell beast hate is crazy

[tight viper]

That's like a third of em

[coarse leaf]

its only hard if u like to rush hit bosses like a dummy

[remote silo]

Its not a cheese its 100% intended

[tawny relic]

i went back to hollowknight briefly and it literally feels like a flash game

[viscid tendon]

I want to see it

[foggy tapir]

ikr

[final mirage]

You better put Plasmified Zango in F as soon as u do kill him

[worn canyon]

It’s like the second fight of the game exactly

[coarse leaf]

because karmelita doesnt have many hit windows

[mortal lichen]

why doesn't hornet just use a silkeater to get rid of the GMS coccoon that causes act 3 to happen? is she stupid?

[ocean quarry]

ok maybe D tier

[tawny relic]

and the bosses have low ass hp lol

[coarse leaf]

BUT what i did against that was just pogo everything she did

[ocean quarry]

but bell beast is atrocious to fight without any upgrades

[ornate torrent]

she has a lot of hit windows if you use a facetank strat, which i didnt

[tawny palm]

i didn't do the boulder method, but its not a cheese tbh

the game gave u a method to shorten the fight and there is nothing wrong about using said method

[tawny relic]

and enemies have easy skillsets

[foggy tapir]

death by lethal injection bro

[tight viper]

Silkeater too small, Styx needs to make a larger one

[alpine crest]

Funnily enough, she only took me 24 tries (with barbed bracelet), while karmelita (without barbed bracelet) took me easily over 100 tries 💔

And I wasn't even using any cheese builds or anything; Wanderer with longclaw, injector band & extender spool with no tools or silk skills for both of them

[coarse leaf]

i didnt either

[tawny relic]

everything is a downgrade literally

[final mirage]

That is the way I play. I do NOT care about the best build or what crests are good. I used hunter the entire time except for Groal

[worn canyon]

Every boss after bell beast the player has dash which allows for much more interesting fights

[mint raven]

why doesnt hornet just kill grandmother silk instead of bind her is she stupid?

[ornate torrent]

she's still hard even if u dont

[alpine crest]

Fair, cheese is prolly the wrong word

[coarse leaf]

okay then just pogo with wanderer and longclaw

[foggy tapir]

you literally NEED TO GET an upgrade to fight her

[tawny relic]

im finally realizing just how huge of an improvement silksong is

[foggy tapir]

well hornet cant kill god

[final mirage]

Too late. Her heart was used up already

[coarse leaf]

Aw man

[ocean quarry]

ye but silkspear is bot very useful against it since you gotta heal after taking 2 hits

[mint raven]

I mean, the knight did

[placid obsidian]

u telling me binding all of her shit and leaving her in the abyss aint the same thing as killing

[coarse leaf]

Spear go brrr

[coarse leaf]

trust in the dlc!

[final mirage]

Only heart I wanted to keep was Green Prince

[austere cliff]

this isn't me saying how good i think the boss is or like overall quality. it's just a measure of how much fun i had while fighting them overall. lower rank doesn't mean i think they're bad, just that i didnt find them interesting or memorable really

[limber wedge]

to pimp a butterfly🩷

[coarse leaf]

That's literally every double damage boss

[tawny relic]

i think its easier to kill god than to flipping consume her and control her power

[mint raven]

palestag is easy S teir

[ocean quarry]

yes

[alpine crest]

Groal in S tier? That shore is an opinion

-# also sister splinter over cogwork dancers 💔

Other than that, yeah, nice tierlist

[placid obsidian]

what is this nyleth glaze

[mortal lichen]

she doesn't die for real until you get rid of her one reason to continue resisting the void: protecting lace

[austere cliff]

haven't done verdania yet

[tame escarp]

bros favorite game is hide and seek

[zenith magnet]

I guess I'm an outlier for preferring HK to SS.

[still prawn]

I glitched the hud

[final mirage]

Last Judge fakeouts were crazy annoying

[foggy tapir]

the knight can take a fucking mace to the goddamn cranium and still survive

but for hornet?
ohhh noooo a spike double FUCKING DAMAGE

[soft venture]

Anyone know the name of the song that plays during the Forum gauntlet fight?

[tight viper]

Why is the first beastfly completely obscured

[still prawn]

I have the magma step effect permanently on me lol

[placid obsidian]

well you do the same thing there too

[limber wedge]

they don’t have craniums

[ocean quarry]

spikes don't deal double damage anymore

[tight viper]

The Choir

[austere cliff]

i found her memorable and just really different from most of the other bosses. good presentation even though she wasn't really difficult

[mint raven]

The knight couldnt even get 1st place in some eays parkour bro

[potent vessel]

how do people use ||volt vessels|| as the spinny throwing variant?

[soft venture]

Thank you

[ocean quarry]

is that a mod

[coarse leaf]

A falling worm does double damage to hornet

[alpine crest]

I think Nyleth killed me more than Lost Lace 💔

[tight viper]

Check the tool description

[mint raven]

yk u can use them to skip groal

[foggy tapir]

what about karmelitas spikes

[tulip spire]

She’s mostly weird because most bosses are hit and run or fencing matches where you let the guy do their thing then you hit them, but because of her idle block this does not work at all reliably so you have to try to hit her while she’s trying to beat your ass. She’s got a lot of defensive tools: her small windows, evasiveness, high hp pool, her backdash, her autoblock that can’t be punished, and in phase 3, her relentless aggression. I think her attacks are fine I just wish it was a little easier to actually damage her reliably (esp with her giant hp pool)

[placid obsidian]

tells you how to configure it in the description (lshift on keyboard) on a bench

[still prawn]

Nope i glitched it

[tawny relic]

the knight is hollow tbf

[potent vessel]

ohhh never noticed that, thanks

[ocean quarry]

those are spines

[still prawn]

Wanna know how?

[final mirage]

The knight was built different for some ungodly reason. It hurts that most stuff does more or the same damage as other enemies. No way that the big skull dude should do as much damage as Abs Rad

[austere cliff]

idk the tier list image for it is just like that

[mint raven]

Cant wait for silksong dlc

[ocean quarry]

eh, sure

[limber wedge]

honestly i found karmelita easier to hit than fucking pinstress

[potent vessel]

why would i want to skip my groat
(im interested tell me more)

[foggy tapir]

press the button a on your nintendo switch controller thats the only way i can help you

[still prawn]

What act are you in?

[languid nacelle]

HK had a better atmosphere exploration and soundtrack, silksong has better art, combat, and platforming

[tame escarp]

you could always projectile vomit tacks and let the game play itself for you

[placid obsidian]

we need a pantheon for all of these bosses

[tawny relic]

hornet feels pain like we do, the knight just physically feels it but not anything besides getting hit in the moment

[waxen mango]

if silk song dlc is anywhere near as good as hollowknights dlc then we're looking at some peak

[potent vessel]

im not playing on switch 😭

[tulip spire]

I know. I was saying she’s hard if you don’t do this.

[empty salmon]

Where should I go after meeting the snail shamans at act 3? Should I head straight to the abyss or explore a lil bit?

[mint raven]

I would prefer more areas to explore like new map areas

[ocean quarry]

well, act 1 on one save file, 100% on the other

[coarse leaf]

It's funny how Hornet's threadstorm does 1 damage while failed champion does double to the knight.

[limber wedge]

doesn’t make a difference

[alpine crest]

hot take (maybe?): shakra would be an S tier fight on the same level as FIrst Sinner if she had like 3-4 more moves

[placid obsidian]

no will to break

[mortal lichen]

the knight is the ancient offspring of multiple gods meanwhile hornet is the less ancient offspring of 1 god and the fake half offspring of another god

[tawny relic]

also smth confuses me, why does hornet get those void mind possession cramps in act 1 but then never again until act 3, seems kinda pointless

[tight viper]

Check out the Abyss imo

[austere cliff]

everything about the run, the gauntlet, and groal are things i usually hate or am annoyed by in games. idk it somehow just all combined into something i really enjoyed. i was very confused about not hating it

[ocean quarry]

shakra IS an S-tier fight

[timber anchor]

i love how witch crest takes the "you gotta be aggressive to get heals" mechanic and takes it to another level
but imo
there should be an extra bonus to the bind on witch other than the extra bit of damage you can deal with it

[shrewd gate]

I just discovered the Coral Towers for the first time and oneshotted the first 3 rooms

[still prawn]

Ok ||use the bellbabys on magma thats it||

[foggy tapir]

seriously?

[tulip spire]

I agree but pinstress doesn’t have 1500 hp

[sick fog]

how do i open this door next to ||karmelita||

[placid obsidian]

crazy work

[final mirage]

What did u even say to me?

[naive geyser]

you can say that abt any bosses lacking in moveset tho

[hollow forum]

Groal is fine I don't get the hate either

[mint raven]

git gud

[empty salmon]

Will I get smth like new ability there?

[waxen mango]

you have to unlock the super attack

[naive geyser]

shakra is just eh

[alpine crest]

Fair, tbh. It all ends up boiling down to personal preferences, and I'll admit that, for as much as I personally detest Groal, I adore the idea of him absorbing the soul of the Shaman and thus being the only enemy to use actual soul magic.

[ornate torrent]

you dont, its there in order to correspond to the dream room

[limber wedge]

she may as well have the way she won’t even let you breathe in her direction

[balmy crystal]

am I really bad or is karmelita a hard boss... I feel like I have been 3-4 shotting bosses until now

[waxen mango]

shes supposed to be difficult yeah

[mortal lichen]

crystal dash into the door and use abyss shriek

[austere cliff]

first time i tried groal, I lost my shit when these 3 dudes flew into the arena with the intense boss music

there was no way i could hate the boss when it had such goofy situations like that

[real veldt]

hey 1 question, i did the 5 hour speedrun achievement and where can i get all the maps now Shakra nowhere to be found

[alpine crest]

Shakra literally has like 3 moves
Throw ring
Dash -> Throw ring backwards
Slam down

[tulip spire]

She’s the hardest boss in the game don’t worry

[ornate torrent]

karmelita's def a step up compared to other bosses

[tight viper]

Only one way to find out, but there's a lot of A3 content that only triggers after visiting the Abyss

[sick fog]

oh it was pissing me off, thanks

[hollow forum]

Hardest boss in the game in my opinion

[foggy tapir]

the knight was made to tank damage

hornet only exist because herra was sweet talkin the pale king during the discussion of getting the infection contained better

[barren topaz]

she should be at bellhart

[austere cliff]

i was like COME ON you should be IN BED because you have BUG SCHOOL tomorrow, not being sent here to fight me

[alpine crest]

she's an extreme step-up (she took me like 100+ tries for some reason 🥀) so dw, it's normal to die a lot to her

[coarse leaf]

||don't||

[naive geyser]

correct

[placid obsidian]

karmelita is hard but just learn to instantly run away after a hit and you'll be fine

[real veldt]

ty

[mortal lichen]

I think I found karmelita similar in difficulty to lost lace

[tulip spire]

The worst boss in the game is Palestag right

[worn canyon]

Teerlist👍

[alpine crest]

which is like 1/3rd of something like Lost Lace

[ocean quarry]

savage beastfly

[plucky plover]

um yall how do I go up the wind elevator things <3

[tawny relic]

shes just annoying but i cant get too mad bc shes beautiful and sings beautifully

[still prawn]

Why?

[somber plank]

🪑

[placid obsidian]

i think lost lace might be slightly harder because theres more shit on the screen thats all black

[limber wedge]

the knight wasnt “made” its parents just freaked and threw the embryo into the abyss

[empty salmon]

K will do

Now I'm actually stuck at wormways cuz the mods are healing non stop

[barren topaz]

cloak from far fields

[hollow forum]

Same but I think Karmelita is way better

[tulip spire]

The first one is very manageable. The second one is bad

[final mirage]

Fair, but it’s still absurd how frail Hornet is in game. There are points that it feels like she got weaker than the first game made her out to be

[mortal lichen]

where is S+ tier for Ass Jim specifically?

[foggy tapir]

how do we know if they smashed

[naive geyser]

ofc groal is in S

[limber wedge]

because we find the giant egg in the abyss 💔

[worn canyon]

Too big to fit (just like their ass)

[coarse leaf]

Savage beastfly is completely optional so you can fight it 2 acts later.

[tame escarp]

Fair but even ignoring the obviously op tools I think its fine for her to have tough windows considering the game expects you to use red tools alongside your crest build of choice, its kind of like trying to nail hug failed champion or lost kin without spells

[placid obsidian]

i mean shes pretty strong when you get all masks and fully upgrade nail (pretty much two shots any mob and can first try most bosses at this point in act 3)

[still prawn]

Groals a fine boss its just the runback and arena

[tulip spire]

LL I feel like I can consistently hit. Karmelita I feel like it’s 50/50

[alpine crest]

or well Lost Lace honestly prolly has like 12 moves with all her phases combined
slash
dash
void tendril
jump attack
orb -> saws
orbs that shoot tracking projectiles
tp up and dive down
void tidal waves
the 3-mask anime slash ass move
summoning a bunch of void tentacles from the ground
parry

that's 11 but close nuff

[foggy tapir]

still doesnt mean they sloppy styled

[limber wedge]

unless you’re implying they did invitro or sth

[tight viper]

A3 wormways is one of the few things that's actually available soon as A3 starts, if you want you could finish checking that before heading down as well

[tulip spire]

You can nail hug failed champion easily lol

[limber wedge]

i doubt theres an abundance of fertility clinics in hallownest

[hollow forum]

Holy carp it's the number 1 lost lace fan

[worn canyon]

Wtf is this convo

[foggy tapir]

whetever

[alpine crest]

tbf, you can't run out of soul in such a way that you need to leave the boss and go grind Soul or Geo to buy Soul

[nocturne beacon]

Can someone help me with this tool i'm missing?

[naive geyser]

i wouldnt have it any other way

[alpine crest]

Indeed! I adore her, she's peak

[foggy tapir]

whether or not the white lady and pale king smashed

[leaden delta]

no i like do feel it's pretty clear they fucked and then threw the eggs into abyss

[ocean quarry]

they canonically did

[hollow forum]

I'm not gonna say my opinion then

[tulip spire]

Karmelita doesn’t consume shards technically

[worn canyon]

This is memory crystal i think

[limber wedge]

someone is saying pale king didnt crack white lady

[foggy tapir]

uh idk myself what that is

[worn rose]

I wonder if someone made a mod in pizza tower that replaces peppino to hornet

[barren topaz]

sawtooth circlet?

[alpine crest]

oh god

[empty salmon]

Any tips on beating them? Like literally do more dmg than their heal?

[foggy tapir]

ok but did the bell beast smash another bell beast?

or did the bell eater smash the bell beast?

[alpine crest]

She doesn't? I thought she refreshed your tools, but consumed the shards each time you die

[worn canyon]

It’s in the left side of mount fae right of the bench behind secrett

[tawny relic]

runback is fine, takes 20 seconds

[nocturne beacon]

have that alr

[tulip spire]

The best “legit” Karmelita strat as far as I can tell is do the first two phases then throw tacks and pray she dies

[tame escarp]

shrug no descending dark makes it a hit and run

[ocean quarry]

bell eater

[coarse leaf]

White lady literally tied herself so she doesn't fuck

[tawny relic]

groal can go die over and over and burn in the swamps.

[worn canyon]

if you find the bench

[nocturne beacon]

i think i don't have that, where do i get it

[barren topaz]

twelfth architect

[hollow forum]

Pffft shaman stone

[tawny relic]

yes

[silk totem]

Maybe pale king was the pregnant one considering what we've seen with greyroot

[ocean quarry]

white lady tied herself AFTER the mass infanticide

[placid obsidian]

head to the ||12th (oops) architect||

[nocturne beacon]

oh god more roasary farming 😭

[foggy tapir]

bell eater smashed bell beast then

[coarse leaf]

2 minutes

[limber wedge]

they didnt even do invitro for herrah they just cucked white lady

[ocean quarry]

yes

[worn canyon]

Otherwise it’s like 2 minutes if you’re good more if you’re bad

[tight viper]

Pretty much, could also check with the Alchemist to see if he has anything to say about them

[tawny relic]

get secret bench dummy

[barren topaz]

and craft metals

she's got 3 tools so that's three craft metals

[alpine crest]

the only post-groal movement tool is Silk Soar, right?

I need to test how long the runback is

[hollow forum]

1 second

[placid obsidian]

its not that much - i think around 360?

[tawny relic]

literally 20 seconds with soar

[tawny palm]

how does flea juggle work fleas literally just slam themselves on the ground

[ornate torrent]

honestly karmelita runback was one of my least favorites because its kinda long and boring despite being trivially easy

[tulip spire]

Honestly I think the run back from the secret bench is probably not even in the top 3 worst run backs in Silksong

[alpine crest]

😭

[coarse leaf]

1 minute and 20 seconds

[hollow forum]

Don't jump EVER

[foggy tapir]

greyroot makes hornet have a child

[tawny relic]

from the secret bench is a very calm runback

[placid obsidian]

there isnt even a runback lmao

[naive geyser]

when does beastfly 2 and groal make out sloppy style

[limber wedge]

thats a parasite since its a different species than hornet

[ornate torrent]

you need to enter the dream and run along the hallway

[hollow forum]

I hate playing the goddamn song every time tbh

[tight viper]

Hit each flea upwards 3 times, you can also use left and right slashes if you can't get under in time. Pogos make them just go straight into the ground unless it's the third hit

[foggy tapir]

its smashing yet they didnt smash

[remote silo]

Tomorrow when skong comes out

[placid obsidian]

fair

[worn canyon]

Yall stop giving the artists ideas 😭

[limber wedge]

divine conception

[tawny palm]

i said this today and they acted like im insane

[vapid trout]

okay i think my game is bugged i cannot get captured i have checked all three spots ||greymoor, bilewater, and deep docks/hunters march|| and there are no capture bugs

[naive geyser]

i cant believe skong is tomorrow

[limber wedge]

just go to the slab

[worn canyon]

When are you

[alpine crest]

that can happen, dw

you can get to that area later on, all you miss out on is the escape sequence itself

[tight viper]

They stop appearing after a certain point

[foggy tapir]

HEY 18+ ARTIST DID GREYROOT MAKE HORNET CARRY A CHIIILLDDDD?

[tulip spire]

Fifteen second cutscene, wait like three seconds for Hornet to wake up, walk like twenty seconds, then fight three waves of trash, the last of which is highly evasive unless you want to waste tools on them instead of the boss. It’s oddly annoying for a single room runback

[vapid trout]

no i HAVE TO FIGHT FIRST SINNER

[tawny palm]

yesterday

[wet gyro]

My biggest problem with the game is how everything takes 2 masks of damage

[silk totem]

Also the bug making the eggs would make more sense than the root

[vapid trout]

no i need to get to first sinner

[limber wedge]

hornet DID NOT give birth cause she got a boybortion

[hollow forum]

Don't say that here, you're gonna get ratio'd

[vapid trout]

and i cant do that without getting captured

[barren topaz]

and also a sick ost too

[flint rover]

Yes you can

[vapid trout]

currently i have 1/3 ||melodies||

[limber wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-not-the-truth-ellen-gif-20104452

[wet gyro]

I hate how toxic the fandom is getting u can’t critic anything without them getting defensive

[dawn valve]

Groal the FRAUD

[vapid trout]

no i cant?? i need 2 keys one is from the escape

[barren pine]

agony

[tawny palm]

and PK did rebirth himself in an egg that looks similar to the egg of vessels

HEAR ME OUT GUYSSS I HAVE A THEORYYYYYY

[barren topaz]

you can fight first sinner without getting captured

[limber wedge]

critique*

[tight viper]

You'll have to find another way into the Slab, like a key

[barren topaz]

no, both keys are obtainable without getting captured

[vapid trout]

i ahve the ||ducts|| key

[hollow forum]

Stay strong

[naive geyser]

thats what happens to most fandoms when they get popular unfortunately :(

[vapid trout]

how do i get the other one i have the ||ducts|| key

[dusty violet]

Bro my god the room fight after getting into act 3 is the only thing i have struggled on yet why did they take my items away💔💔

[wet gyro]

اسف معلم

[alpine crest]

tbf even if you do get captured and taken to the Slab early, you still need a key found in the Putrified Ducts (post-double jump) to access the First Sinner, which in turn means that you need clawline (unless you're clinically insane) which in turn means that you need to do some citadel exploring

[tight viper]

Slab is fully available to you then

[ocean quarry]

update: you can absolutely go through craggler without any upgrades

just did it

lmao i'm gonna get wanderer's before deep docks or sprint dash

[silk totem]

I have 1 extra key i never used after 100 percenting

[tawny palm]

this game sucks we already know that and been saying it for years whats new

[vale whale]

the bell eater is the bell beast's natural predator so probs not that

[vapid trout]

i have allat

[tawny palm]

سامحتك تعيدهاش

[rough quiver]

its almost like it makes sense for pks children to come from eggs that look like his egg

[placid obsidian]

im missing 3% and idk where it is

[silk totem]

Sure

[wet gyro]

حقق علي

[foggy tapir]

someone likes to deny truth

[alpine crest]

oh if you have the Apostate Key then just go to the slab from the citadel, you can just... walk there rn

[tawny palm]

its almost like im joking

[barren topaz]

you know the apostate key door closest the bellway? past that door, you unlock the lower area of slab. Somewhere there is a hidden entrance in the ceiling that takes you to the upper half of slab

from there you just explore

[tulip spire]

You heal three masks at once so I think it makes sense. I think they could have toned it down a bit in the early game in some places but I think the game would be too easy if you could take three hits from every boss before ever having to heal. You’d get like 2 heals off before you managed to ever take meaningful damage

[naive geyser]

yeah this game was hated on back in 2009 when they removed pharloom bay from the game

[vale whale]

i don't think you get what i mean the bell beast killed that mf in cold blood

[vapid trout]

i never knew that 😭 this area is so undocumented

[rough quiver]

mb srry lol

[tidal current]

am I the only one thinking beast crest is good?

[foggy tapir]

well she wanted to make it look like they didnt smash eachother sloppy toppy style

[silk totem]

We've seen some freaky shit with the roots so i think it's worth it to think how reproduction would work w them

[foggy tapir]

trust me your not

[tight viper]

It's very good, yeah

[grave frigate]

what the f--- is the Crustnut used for

[tawny palm]

what if bell eater ate bells and bell beast killed him for no reason

[foggy tapir]

first you snap their neck THEN you smash them

[naive geyser]

beast crest is good, the downwards pogo takes some getting used to

[barren topaz]

quest in citadel

[tawny palm]

nail upgrade

[grave frigate]

ok

[tight viper]

Quest item, you'll find out in time

[foggy tapir]

quest

[tulip spire]

Who up crusting a nut

[round crater]

Ss is حقيقي

[barren topaz]

@naive geyser ?

[silk totem]

Im crusting it

[foggy tapir]

replace crust with nut please

[tawny palm]

who up pickling their muckmaggots

[tidal current]

on god bro I played it against lost lace while testing crest and I can just use the bind to do some crazy dmg like except hunter with max focus or wanderer I think it has the highest dpc

[naive geyser]

nail upgrade

[tight viper]

But it is a quest in the citadel

[round crater]

Crust king is a crazy name for a boss bro

[tulip spire]

I’m surprised you could hit her often enough to get utility out of the bind

[dull cape]

yes certain rooms look fine but should be considered extremely extremely dangerous, like that room, the room beside the diving bell, and everything at the start of act 3 (where they remove your tools like fractured mask and start you with 4 HP against double-damage steam)

[barren topaz]

its for a task, which you get from citadel, which gives you an item which THEN gives you a nail upgrade 🔥

[buoyant urchin]

My brother called hornet a butterfly

[rustic quail]

everyone talks about favorite bosses, how about favorite themes :3
my favorites rn are bellhart, cogworks core, skarmelita's theme, and choral chambers

[tame escarp]

Them mfs can do 4 masks of damage so long as I get to heal in the air instead of actually have to study enemy openings 🔥

[alpine crest]

it's one of the ingredients you need to give to Gordon Ramsey, so that he can cook for Kingpin. This, in turn, gives you a Pale Oil.

[round crater]

He calls her the silksong

[silk totem]

Jane Silksong

[rustic quail]

i mean she doesnt look like a spider 😭

[grave frigate]

ah yes
gordon ramsey
famous bug in pharloom

[tight viper]

Best track in the game is the Whiteward Psalm Cylinder

[tawny palm]

||one dude wants to make a nastu food for his nasty master, he needs 5 ingredients and gives u a pale oil to upgrade ur nail, crust nut is 1/5 of the ingredients||

[round crater]

John silksong

[naive geyser]

i love cogwork dancer's theme

[buoyant urchin]

He says she is a butterfly and when I told him it's a spider he was confused

[tidal current]

bro the game aint that hard the boss are WAY easier than the one in hollow knight. also if u use flintstale AND fleabrew u can have the craziest dpc

[tulip spire]

There is a funny way around the 4hp by just quitting out and reloading at least

[naive geyser]

i agree

[rustic quail]

OH RIGHT i forgot architect melody is fire

[grave frigate]

John Darksouls
John Deadcells
and John Silksong

[tight viper]

wrong reply?

[buoyant urchin]

She looks like pale king
She is half spider after all

[round crater]

John sekiro too

[dull cape]

i mean, no, because the whole game is balanced around those damage numbers. your actual problem is that you have very little health and it takes a long time & work to get more

[tawny palm]

no im explaining the quest ur talking about

[waxen mango]

how do i learn pilbys name?

[alpine crest]

cogwork core, cogwork dancer, Skarrsinger Karmelita & Choral Chambers
other than that there aren't really any other osts that make me remember them even when I'm not playing the game

[tight viper]

oh that's fair, ty

[tulip spire]

I know I just thought she’d go into the goop too fast to get your hits in

[buoyant urchin]

How the fuck did the architect in underworks forget how peak it sounds

[grave frigate]

the brothers John enter hard game here

[alpine crest]

google

[peak tangle]

so glad i never got spoiled on the final boss but im also really curious which is a bad thing cuz ill spoil myself on accident

[tidal current]

nah she is light work

[waxen mango]

Yeah Man

[round crater]

Sekiro aint all that

[foggy tapir]

get em to the pilgrims rest

[tawny palm]

hehehehe

[buoyant urchin]

Just don't be in this server till you do

[plush igloo]

am i the only disappointed with the lack of really challenging bosses in silksong? like besides lace 2 and lost lace, none of the bosses were really challenging like in the first hollow knight game

[dull cape]

yeah but whether you have 10 max masks or 5 max masks it's a gnarly area that catches people off guard if they rely on fractured mask

[rustic quail]

she grinded too close to the giant ball of yarn

[naive geyser]

gms' theme is very cool although the fight itself is all style and no substance

[barren topaz]

exit this channel immediately

[peak tangle]

aight

[round crater]

The final boss is the rsdiance distante uncle

[ornate torrent]

bro what, the only hk bosses harder than like karmelita are absrad and thats it

[waxen mango]

if i were to be going for the most mega-est complete save ever should i save pilby or let em die

[tight viper]

Keep talking to em occassionally as you progress through the game, don't know the exact checks that trigger each "friendship point" or whatever but the wik might have them listed

[buoyant urchin]

😭

[dull cape]

i have told you a bunch of times that you are not in the right channel if you care at all about any spoiler at all

[waxen mango]

doesnt appear to

[alpine crest]

leave this server until you beat act 3 and see the completion screen
#sk-discussion has an "all spoilers allowed" clause, so someone might post a picture of the final boss in response to someone else and voila, now you're spoiled.

[tulip spire]

Oh I agree it annoys me a ton they just remove your build and then throw you into a gauntlet with a mechanic you’ve never seen before

[waxen mango]

only cowards close the game when things get scary

[alpine crest]

holy shit did you draw this?

[plush igloo]

what about NKG and PV

[tawny palm]

no

[alpine crest]

welp, still a banger

[barren topaz]

nkg is free

[peak tangle]

yeah yeah i get it ill leave damn

[foggy tapir]

js dont trigger the skull tyrant 2 boss till pilbys at the pilgrims rest

[tawny palm]

bell beast is harder than most hollow knight bosses

[plush igloo]

i’ve gotten so good at nkg i can always first try him in godhome

[dull cape]

that means knowing every trigger ahead of time

[tight viper]

Check the dialogue tab, it puts conditions for certain dialogues and marks the required ones

[vapid trout]

i cant find that

[waxen mango]

would you consider the game to be more complete if piblys alive, or dead. content wise ioknonw

[foggy tapir]

so? dont grant the skull tyrant wish till hes at the pilgrims rest

[barren topaz]

from the bellway in slab, literally just go up and it's a door to the right

[hallow egret]

hello

[dull cape]

i mean that's definitely not true. most of the arena is completely safe at any given time, and you can see all danger way ahead of time

[hoary mica]

ya they're asking about a 2nd save

[vapid trout]

i meant the passage not the door

[tawny palm]

i accidentally saved him (i wanted him dead)

[proud talon]

Worst enemy in the entire fcking game

[tulip spire]

NKG is kinda like riding a bicycle in that once you’ve downloaded him he’s not shit but the learning process is arduous and difficult. I feel the same about LL

[waxen mango]

?? 😭

[plush igloo]

i just wish silksong offered more hard bosses, i feel like 30-35 of them were easy

[tawny palm]

do not ask

[vale whale]

yeah i REALLY dont think you get what i mean the bell eater is the bell beast's natural predator so that would be REALLY odd

[hallow egret]

yea

[foggy tapir]

he ALWAYS. was SHIT.

[dull cape]

use debug, load them up with needle 0 and no tools, set your HP to 1, have fun

[hoary mica]

100% worst enemy team cherrys ever made they made this guy to piss you off

[proud talon]

Have you seen that enemy?

[nocturne beacon]

ok that's a horrible screenshot sorry lmao

[barren topaz]

midbrace

[foggy tapir]

😔

[ornate torrent]

neither of those were that difficult in my opinion, they both felt easier than like gpz for example

[hallow egret]

yea aspids were bad but this one is next level

[tight viper]

Why'd you send a screenshot with nothing in it?

[nocturne beacon]

meant to send this one 😭

[tawny palm]

that gotta be on purpose 😭😭

[foggy tapir]

nkg wasnt difficult?

nkg wasnt difficult?

[hoary mica]

i would be genuinely relieved to see primal aspid in this game bro

[nocturne beacon]

have you seen the hitbox though

[barren topaz]

no

[tight viper]

Holy shit they added crabs to Skong?

[placid obsidian]

nkg wasnt diffcult 😔

[ornate torrent]

grimm taught me well

[nocturne beacon]

it was not 😭

[hallow egret]

W hitbox

[tulip spire]

I’m on my second playthrough right now and it’s so funny just bullying the shit out of lace 1 after that brat killed me like 8 times on playthrough 1

[barren topaz]

me with all the act 3 bosses

[nocturne beacon]

god i cant wait till they add something similar to pantheons

[hallow egret]

W

[foggy tapir]

GRIMM TAUGHT ME ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR HELL BUT RED

[olive siren]

What ive been using silk speed boots for the first time and it uses silk? Wtf thats so ass

[mortal brook]

The fight against || Shakra || is so cool. But damn, it's hard to keep up with her

[simple crow]

The mushroom ending done and officially got the 100% trophy

[nocturne beacon]

they patched it sadly 😔

[tight viper]

Tool description says it does

[nocturne beacon]

huh 😭

[tulip spire]

I think I no hit her lol. Oops sorry lace almost got me try like ten feet to the left next time

[slender wren]

Sesbian lex

[tame escarp]

I mean if you compare final bosses isshin mogs elden beast

[foggy tapir]

SURE it is!
sure it is.

[placid obsidian]

you need mushroom for 100%?

[dull cape]

don't be edgy thanks

[nocturne beacon]

LETS GO ONLY ONE THING LEFT TO DO

[slender wren]

😔

[hallow egret]

im on the || hunters march a3 boss || any tips

[simple crow]

No, it's just a secret ending like in hk

[foggy tapir]

your parents must be so proud of you

[tight viper]

The projectiles can be parried

[tulip spire]

Lmao

[slender wren]

It’s cause I’m the greatest

[hallow egret]

o like the other ememies?

[foggy tapir]

yeah so funny

[simple crow]

You need to do his quest and after it, do the ||sister of the abyss|| ending (act3 ending) and his cutscenes will play after

[round crater]

And i really dont care

[placid obsidian]

im missing 3% and i cant figure out what it is 😭

[barren topaz]

send inventory

[tight viper]

Her projectiles are pretty much the same as the ones the small guys have, except the arcs are different and there's 2 of em

[wind compass]

karmilita has ruined me
I keep on dying to the fucking mob rush before the fight

[dull cape]

well if it's not a farsight notch in your inventory and you have 10 masks and full silk, then there's not much it can be.

[empty rain]

I hate silksong, cuz I can't wait for the DLCs and playing HK feels super easy now, the thing spoiled me

[vale whale]

i am THE best racer to touch swift's track

[olive siren]

Pat attention to her hand movements she telegraphs her moves based albeit its very fast

[nocturne beacon]

what the other guy said

[tulip spire]

That’s a sign you need a break I think this is classic concentration fade

[fresh stratus]

||JUST BEAT WIDOW YEAAAAAA||

[coarse leaf]

W Grubby

[simple crow]

All mask ? All silk extension ? All tools ?

[placid obsidian]

i have 10 masks & full silk & got the all tools/crests/silkhearts achievement

[wind compass]

I might

[barren topaz]

did you bind eva?

[foggy tapir]

js use plasmium phial and archetict

[tulip spire]

You’ll get her

[dull cape]

use all your memory lockets and go to eva.

[alpine crest]

when you GARAMA to start the gauntlet, go to the right and Threadstorm (preferrably voltwyrm filament if you have the space on your build for that) the skarr warrior & flying ant. Mash to instantly kill them.

Then just do the gauntlet as normal until the last wave. Kill one of the two guys, then heal (if you've taken any damage) and farm silk off of the last guy until he dies.

[silk totem]

I hope in dlc we get to see the grubs as butterflies flying past pharloom, missed hype moment opportunity

[clear spoke]

Imagine waking up one day, getting up, saying good morning to your parents, having breakfast, going to work or school, coming back tired, having lunch, resting on the PC, entering Discord, going to the general chat of this server, watching a video of a gameplay fragment in Silksong, and writing this.

[lucid field]

SINCE WHEN DID THE BILEWATER GUY LEARN VENGEFUL SPIRIT???????????

[vale whale]

multibinder druids eyes injector band wanderers stick to her keep damaging and jump high to heal, only dodge the jumping attacks tank the rest while attacking her to regain silk

[foggy tapir]

he stole it

[severe cosmos]

You cant save pebb without being blocked from 100%

[barren topaz]

after stealing it from the 🐌

[hallow egret]

holy

[lucid field]

😭

[tight viper]

Gotta beat him to find out

[wind compass]

k thx

[dull cape]

more to learn, you have

[vale whale]

he crucified a shaman and drank the soul up

[severe cosmos]

Most basic magic

[alpine crest]

imagine if Groal actually used a bunch of Soul stuff instead of having a total of 3 moves and having all the difficulty come from the 5-wave gauntlet before him 🤤

[vale whale]

@wind compass try this you can use tools for the gauntlet

[wet raft]

HOLY HELL I DID ||COURIERS RASHER|| FIRST TRY

[severe cosmos]

Yeah, Myla all over again

[lucid field]

he's so annoying 💀

[coarse leaf]

He touched a shaman

[alpine crest]

I hate Groal as much as the next guy, but he genuinely had the potential to be one of my favorite bosses in Skong if they just leaned more into the Soul part

[vapid crow]

if Zelda taught me anything is that whenever something opens their mouth you throw a handcrafted explosive into it
anyway guess how i lost my aunt today

[vale whale]

yeah me too i dont get the fuss

[tulip spire]

Honestly I was really nervous the dude had shriek and dive

[flint rover]

I think you can let him keep the simple key. I don't think you need to free Green Prince for completion

[alpine crest]

😭

[wild canopy]

Is Silksong's story better than Hollow Knight?

[dull cape]

almost as if the intended experience of this boss includes the entire runback and the enemy waves, as a whole package

[barren topaz]

a boss using shriek would be cool

[severe cosmos]

No you need to kill all of them bosses iirc

[alpine crest]

honestly imagine if we fought the Knight. They'd have a tiny hitbox (adjusted so that our swings still hit them), dash around everywhere, double jump, iframe dash, spam spells, etc

[vale whale]

dies in act 3 anywayas

[flint rover]

Bosses don't count for completion in this game. Only items, skills and upgrades

[tight viper]

don't be afraid of the water, most of his attacks can't do much to a swimming spider

[waxen mango]

does pilby still die if you never rest at the bench

[vapid crow]

thank god Team Cherry made Groal be able to eat bombs honestly if he wasn't able to i would have needed to uninstall silksong tbh

[severe cosmos]

They do??? Im sure

[flint rover]

Yeah probably

[barren topaz]

they do not

[heady rampart]

just saw someone lose their steel soul savefile to the tusk in flea dodge

[flint rover]

I got 100% without kiling Karmelita

[vivid hare]

Hey yall, where do i find shakra after completing her "Trail's end" quest? Gotta poshanka with her

[severe cosmos]

Oh they dont

[tight viper]

I mean probably, he's not immortal old age will get him someday

[thin horizon]

How much health does the last judge have

[barren topaz]

right side of bellhart, the entrance of greymoor

[frosty topaz]

i hope we get a pantheon soon

[coarse leaf]

Greymoor

[vapid crow]

Bellhart exit pointing towards greymoor

[tight viper]

Right of Bellhart

[dull cape]

like do y'all think they don't intentionally consider boss run-up/run-back to be part of what defines the boss

[covert gyro]

FOUND BRO

[alpine crest]

I get that it's the intended experience
But I feel like it'd be a lot better if Groal was a... fly warrior? who had tortured, absorbed & learnt soul magic from the Shaman, which he then made a lot of use of,

instead of him being a very simple boss with 3 moves (only one of them using soul) where all the difficulty comes from other stuff. Like yes, it's a part of him, but I'd much rather it wasn't, and they just made Groal the boss himself better

[vivid hare]

Thanks all

[vapid crow]

why is it white

[heady rampart]

bellhart, also at bellhart entrance of greymoor

[placid obsidian]

yep i needed to bind eva

[vale whale]

me showing groal my 300 pompillos and 90 sting shards when he opens his fat fucking gob:

[nocturne beacon]

wait you can do that????

[alpine crest]

bellhart for poshanka
greymoor (where you fought Moorwing, right before the bellhart entrance) for aggressive poshanka

[hallow egret]

me whipping out 2 guns and bombs

[placid obsidian]

another 2% left

[vapid crow]

hit that bitch with the curveclaw spam and it's joever

[barren topaz]

everbloom/pale nails?

[shrewd gate]

How do I beat flea juggle this is impossible they are falling too quickly for me to hit them

[wheat onyx]

Sideglances Hollowknight getting an update alongside SK today.

[dull cape]

there is sooooo much variety of bosses & approaches in this game, this is the only one that plays out with both a huge difficult runback and arena waves, I'll take the variety happily, if I want a change it's to add even more unique stuff

[tulip spire]

720. Your nail does 10 damage against it instead of 9

[vale whale]

yeah he eats them and gets eviscerated

[smoky bridge]

I never succeeded doing the Pimpillo trick cause I was always pogoing Groal and he just... Cannot eat you if you're on top of him.

[coarse leaf]

DihLC when

[thin horizon]

And phantom?

[hallow egret]

oh yea r there any new pail oils in act 3

[tight viper]

1

[vale whale]

also max kit curvecleaver + cogflies with pollip pouch DESTROY him

[vapid crow]

yeah if you get all fleas

[barren topaz]

650

[vale whale]

pompillos and sting shards are the cooler way tho

[shrewd gate]

How do I beat flea juggle

[hallow egret]

i have to do the mini game huh

[tulip spire]

650, 9 nail damage

[placid obsidian]

i have pale nail & i already beat lost lace

[barren topaz]

how about max nail

[vale whale]

do you mind showing your inv

[wheat onyx]

interesting team cherry. Very interesting.

[thin horizon]

So phantom is technically easier?

[coarse leaf]

Reaper + long claw + harpoon + speed ankles

[tulip spire]

She’s harder to hit as the tradeoff

[dull cape]

reaper crest, longclaw, never jump, never sprint, never attack upward. only dash. send fleas to the center and then send them all to the same side.

[vale whale]

i thought tools didn't work

[hallow egret]

fuck that ima use beast to make life harder

[barren topaz]

jumping is the way easier strat

[dull cape]

did not test. I have heard longclaw has an effect and I have heard longclaw does not have an effect.

[dry star]

Why is palestag even a boss

[barren topaz]

missing spool frags

also maybe a crafting kit + pouch

[vale whale]

maxed pouch and kit?

[coarse leaf]

Longclaw makes you have extra range

[placid obsidian]

yhep

[hoary mica]

reaper is a very bad idea due to the hitboxes and also hitting upwards is best for keeping them centered

[vale whale]

you need spool frags

[split quest]

funny 2d turning animation tho

[dull cape]

people saying I'm wrong, they should tell me their strategy and how long it took them to beat 100 in flea juggle

[hallow egret]

its just smaller on larger crest attacks right

[placid obsidian]

this is gonna suck cause idk where they are lmao

[vale whale]

interactive map

[thin horizon]

I'm assuming there's no way to get witches crest without double jump?

[dry star]

I'm fighting silksong no eyes 💔

[barren topaz]

literally just hunters

[vale whale]

there very much is

[hoary mica]

i used witch with longclaw and got like 113 in 5 tries

[dull cape]

wrong on both counts
#sk-discussion message

[tropic apex]

yay i got salubra´s blessing

[coarse leaf]

Brazil

[grand pulsar]

But better 🙂

[vale whale]

bench regen in silksong: An ostracised experiment trapped in a machine her whole life, so desperate for freedom liberating herself is her final gift to her only friend

bench regen in hk: wheehee kissy wissy mmm kissy

[tulip spire]

Salubra is built different

[quasi heron]

i was drawing shakra and i keep forgetting she has a tail

[hoary mica]

upwards hitbox on reaper is terrible for juggle though, with up hits you can manage the positions and timings of when theyll fall much better. its good to use a mix

[grand pulsar]

Carries probably one of the best charms too. Shaman Stone 🥹

[thin horizon]

So without clawline it isn't possible?

[vale whale]

and a bunch of notches

[grand pulsar]

Selubra was just different.

[tropic apex]

and i got 100%

[silk wing]

any tips for beating this??

[grand pulsar]

I still prefer HK charms over Tools and I'll die on this hill.

[vale whale]

i think it's possible, you can reach benjin and crull and yarnaby with cling grip and dash

[barren topaz]

preferably not be at 2 hp

[grand pulsar]

Have fun. Probably the most enjoyable boss in the game.

[shell stag]

Hypothetically, if I would want an older version of sk where can I get it?

[thin horizon]

Alright I'll try then

[quasi heron]

practice dodging her, use cogflies and tacks (poisoned), and when your healing jump from the wall and double jump so she cant hit you while you heal

[grand pulsar]

Zero clue 😭

[hoary mica]

its a very hard fight, just try to pay attention when you get hit to improve on what made you get hit because it really takes a lot of effort

[silk wing]

first sinner is probably my fav

[coarse leaf]

You want thread storm pre nerf dontcha

[covert gyro]

BRO came outta nowhere loool

[tulip spire]

One thing I think that’s funny is TC just capitulated on quick nail and shaman stone and just made them default effects of two crests rather than trying to constantly nerf them

[vale whale]

multibinder druids eyes injector band whatever tools if you strugfle with the gauntlet stick to her like glue only dodge jumping attacks cling grip and jump high to heal

[barren topaz]

fight him

[shell stag]

I want original experience

[grand pulsar]

FIGHT HIMMMM

[hoary mica]

im saying that disregarding up slashes entirely is not a good strategy because they are very helpful

[jagged phoenix]

Is that literally like “silk symphony”

Silkphony

[fervent lichen]

can I talk here without using spoilers??

[quasi heron]

sylphsong

[silk wing]

yah

[grand pulsar]

Yup

[jagged phoenix]

Oh like fairy song

[dull cape]

analyze safe areas and unsafe areas during each attack, don't be in the unsafe areas, as part of this you must analyze which attacks can lead straight into which other attacks

[grand pulsar]

Giving Vaultkeeper his last Psalm Thingy

[fervent lichen]

Ok so I'm at 91% and still didn't get the white key how am I suposed to get it

[hoary mica]

yes but its polite to spoiler act 3 stuff ecen if you dont have to

[vernal kettle]

did anybody else find Lace 2 easy?

[quasi heron]

can we get a game called SylphSong where it's eva just in her cage until hornet arrives

[coarse leaf]

If someone came in to discuss about silksong, they have to expect spoilers.

[covert gyro]

BRO IS ASS

[grand pulsar]

Yup

[coarse leaf]

No shit, you already know her patterns 😭

[tulip spire]

Is she actually face tankable without beast?

[vernal kettle]

she is easy once you get in kind of a flow state

[grand pulsar]

He's Garmond, he's just a nice guy and you're being mean to him ;/

[jagged phoenix]

It’s easy if you do wanderer’s crest with no recoil. That’s about it. But I had already memorized the fight by my second playthrough so idk

[flint rover]

Yeah, I struggled more with GMS

[vernal kettle]

i honestly completely forgot about her

[dull cape]

depends on upgrades. pretty difficult with low upgrades. pretty easy with high upgrades.

[split quest]

Yeah

[hallow egret]

so i just gotta o all the flea games for oil?

[grand pulsar]

I didn't need that. I just used Hunters Crest and dogwalked her.

[vernal kettle]

i did hunter's crest

[jagged phoenix]

Architect tool spam or wanderer’s with no recoil yellow tool

[vale whale]

she is, you have to be consistent and dodge the jump attacks tho because she usually becomes unhittable for long enough after those

[covert gyro]

IM NOT but hes not a good fighter

[fervent lichen]

yo can somebody tell me how to get the white key??

[heady ember]

I treated it as a dance, but one where I give Karmelita a lot of space. I basically only hit her with pogos during or right on the tail end of attacks, as well as witch crest heals during her charging bone trail attack.

[hoary mica]

i didnt think it was too bad but i wouldnt call it easy

[barren topaz]

songclave

[jagged phoenix]

I prolly just memorized the fight tbh

[dull cape]

it's on the ground in songclave. later it is sold in songclave.

[covert gyro]

THIS guy hasnt hit me once lmaooo

[jagged phoenix]

Game is learnable eventually becomes second nature

[grand pulsar]

There's no reword for getting all the Psalm Cylinders?

[tame escarp]

hes based off of a schizophrenic geriatric give him a break 💔

[fervent lichen]

who sells it??

[tulip spire]

Lace 2 is exploitable but I found some crests struggle against her

[fossil trench]

||Seth is beating my ass🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀||

[grand pulsar]

I WANTED SOMETHING FOR MY BELLHOME. DAMMIT.

[dull cape]

it's a ton of money, seems like that's worth something.

[gleaming warren]

They better make that high hells gauntlet easier

[coarse leaf]

Seth is harder than Nyleth

[vernal kettle]

it is fine

[grand pulsar]

I bought out all the vendors in Act 2

[tulip spire]

Notably, reaper crest is very bad against lace 2, surprising nobody

[vernal kettle]

does 6 masks 2 needle upgrades count as low?

[grand pulsar]

I still used it in my under 5 hour run.

[gleaming warren]

Lies

[fervent lichen]

this npc is the one who sells it???

[coarse leaf]

I beat her on my second try with reaper.

[grand pulsar]

Wasn't even difficult even with Reapers Crest.

[supple thunder]

Are yall controller or keyboard players?

[coarse leaf]

Yah

[fossil trench]

The fight is peak but holy hell

[vernal kettle]

use poison tacks to destroy the big fat dudes

[barren topaz]

are you talking about white or surgeon key

[grand pulsar]

Controller.

[fervent lichen]

white key

[dull cape]

if you got to this point, you already got and used the white key.

[coarse leaf]

Controller, cause PS4

[grand pulsar]

White, Surgeons is somewhere else.

[vernal kettle]

keyboard

[tulip spire]

I found it made her windows harder to punish and had worse dps

[tame escarp]

is that reaper being decent or lace having zero health 🤔

[dull cape]

consequence of lookin stuff up

[fervent lichen]

but I didn't get to the boss that gives the second silk heart

[dreamy hamlet]

You can pick it up there but if u don’t and do that npc quest she picks it up and sells it to you lol

[barren topaz]

i ask cause they're in act 3, which is impossible without visiting whiteward

[grand pulsar]

Reaper isn't even that bad.

[fervent lichen]

where did I use it????

[coarse leaf]

She has 800 on that fight

[hoary mica]

reapers arguably the worst crest but that doesn't make it bad

[grand pulsar]

Is it though?

[barren topaz]

yes

[tulip spire]

Reaper isn’t that bad I just think most other crests do what it does better

[dull cape]

you're confused because you looked stuff up, but didn't look everything up

[coarse leaf]

Beasty is right there

[grand pulsar]

🤔ᴴᴹᴹᴹ I doubt it.

[vernal kettle]

it is still very little considering how easy she is to punish

[hallow egret]

it can be on certain things

[dull cape]

white key opens whiteward

[barren topaz]

saving sherma is a req for silk and soul

[coarse leaf]

what

[vernal kettle]

it is very awkward imo

[coarse leaf]

Who put femboys in my chat 😭

[hoary mica]

top 5 things said by people who have only used beast crest for 10 minutes

[tame escarp]

I dont think any of the crests are bad its just that reaper offers the least its a "glad its not unupgraded hunter" crest

[grand pulsar]

Who's complaining is the question.

[heady ember]

I'd argue reaper has the lowest ceiling in combat, but it's still perfectly useable and I'd definitely take it over some other crests for exploration.

[dull cape]

stop with the spam.

[tulip spire]

Like what advantage does reaper have over other crests

[coarse leaf]

bro

[vernal kettle]

yall consider 6 masks 2 needle upgrades low for Lace 2?

[coarse leaf]

Ermm actually I used it for 30 minutes, it's still butt cheeks for sane players

[vapid trout]

kinda mad at the game ngl it doesnt spawn capture bugs for me and since i went in the other way i dont get to hear red maiden

[hoary mica]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-lebron-bron-scared-im-scared-gif-9086856978205918508

[coral latch]

Hi guys I'm back

[vale tide]

anything i should do b4 lost lace? i 100% the game already

[wheat onyx]

If you don’t pick up the white key in songclave the first time you visit it disappears and you have to buy it from the merchant lady

[hallow egret]

is 37 seconds on flea dodge good for 2nd try

[coral latch]

I got a question

[barren topaz]

nah

[hoary mica]

i guess you could finish the bellhome

[nocturne beacon]

i used it for like atleast 11 minutes to grind for shredded organs and i still think it's garbage

[tulip tiger]

Na

[tame escarp]

walking into the fight with 2 witch heals putting the boss at near half health 💔

[coral latch]

Is it a hot take that I still love the original Hollow Knight more than Silksong?..

[grand pulsar]

Chat I'm gonna go witness the Passing of an Age.

[covert gyro]

tf

[wheat onyx]

There’s a few other items that disppear and merchant items too and those all go to the Thief guy.

[grand pulsar]

Hell no.

[coarse leaf]

Barbed wire + Beast Crest + shade cloak 2 make for the most insane player

[hoary mica]

that's the best item in the game bro good jobbbb

[hallow egret]

nope

[tulip tiger]

Nope