sk-discussion

[rocky mirage]

this is a lie

[rain socket]

heh...

[silent tangle]

he doesnt

[hard sedge]

Ok that i agree with

[knotty shell]

the humble clover twins:

[shell flax]

ANYONE ELSES PLASMIUM JUST FAILING TO REFILL????

[rain socket]

he does after you do some quests

[silent tangle]

i made sure that mf doesnt die

[tight viper]

Sherma dies at the end of Avengers: Endgame

[celest cypress]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GARMOND

[silent tangle]

i have 100% the game sherma is protected

[rain socket]

EMO

[knotty shell]

try updating your game, it’s a bug they fixed in a recent patch

[shell flax]

oh

[hard sedge]

Use the conch drill
Defeats him in seconds

[shell flax]

i always forgetclmao

[mellow yacht]

just saying bilewater is insanely good compared to the Mist

[obsidian swift]

dont think thats the issue here 😭

[tight viper]

Mist is awesome

[rocky mirage]

i genuinely dont think nyleth is a bad fight. she just looks bad because she's placed right after seth who is peak

[tight viper]

Quick and painful death, that’s 50% good

[celest cypress]

garmond hurts

[carmine yoke]

I choose to believe that Shakra is unaffected by the void not because she stays away from it but because she has maps so she can't get lost

[leaden mist]

[lusty valve]

hello im at a white monster thats trapped in a web how do i get it out?

[rugged solstice]

She's not bad. She's alright. But she is absolutely the worst of the 4

[hard sedge]

Yeah but with conchdrill you just hold him in place
He doesn't attack and doesn't move

[silent tangle]

mist is good if you actually know youre meant to needolin. up until the mist i was only given the information that i can read thoughts and know lore about npcs, the firefly mechanic shouldve been explained or hinted at

[celest cypress]

why does everyone become lost when consumed by the abyss

[rocky mirage]

i'd put clover dancers there honestly. theyre alright but theyre just an easier version of the cogwork dancers without the cool tempo gimmick

[ionic cave]

remove the ground is not a big deal

[full halo]

Cofnier or shakra?

[tight viper]

You have to find something you can use to free it, look around more

[untold dune]

go explore the new moss area to the left and find an ability

[celest cypress]

yea im gonna use it itsmy favourite tool also i think u mean delvers drill

[solar yarrow]

Shrine Guardian Seth is a miserable fight imo

[carmine yoke]

it's dark, can't see where they're going

[lusty valve]

thanks

[full halo]

No

[ionic cave]

if shes like markoth it would be better

[rocky mirage]

oh? why?

[hard sedge]

The drill from Sands Of Karak

[last rock]

i fucking hate bell beast

[tight viper]

Seth is top 5

[knotty shell]

your opinion sucks sorry

[obsidian swift]

the way i discovered it is in the halfway point through the mist in the hallway, theres butterflies that go to the exit

[full halo]

I like Cofnier more than shakra tbh

[brave salmon]

They should save up to travel to dirthmouth and buy lantern

[shell flax]

i think i already had upgraded it when i said that

[tight viper]

*Corny

[silent tangle]

my friend helped me out with it. in retrospect makes me feel stupid

[celest thorn]

Yeah I only knew what to do cause I was streaming it and someone told me to do it

[carmine yoke]

Hope they don't sleep on the way there

[brave salmon]

POV: you are not my friend

[ionic cave]

i think grubs are better than fleas

[silent tangle]

yes my friend helped me solve it

[celest cypress]

delvers drill works too

[celest thorn]

Also is there a place where spoilers are allowed or is it anything goes here

[shell flax]

yippe i can overdoseeee

[hard sedge]

Ah so it does

[full halo]

Waited 6 years for this game only to finish it in a month 😭🙏🏼

[rocky mirage]

spoilers are allowed here

[untold dune]

i just wish there was something that gave a hint to use the needolin in there, maybe place some decorative harps or something

[brave salmon]

Play it every month

[errant vessel]

Now do steel soul

[celest cypress]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ZAZA

[silent tangle]

anything goes but if you specifically want to not spoil something for someone in chat, you can tag it

[tight viper]

Why did you beat an old man to death wtf is your problem

[solar yarrow]

I genuinely did not enjoy fighting him at all, with the shield blocking my attacks like 99% of the time, and throwing the shield with like 99% accuracy, I genuinely had a miserable time fighting him.

[hard sedge]

Also did anyone else fight the alchemist's assistant in wormways

[tawdry valley]

Anything goes here but it’s nice to be nice about extreme spoilers

[celest cypress]

CAN I ADOPT HER

[carmine yoke]

Lost Zaza real

[hybrid flare]

How long did you expect it to be

[obsidian swift]

do playthroughs where you rush a crest and use it the entire playthrough

[last rock]

i fucking hate zaza

[brave salmon]

John Silksong found dead in Miami

[silent tangle]

precisely. some minor hint wouldve been nice

[celest thorn]

||is me beating act 3 a spoiler cause I just did it and oh my god||

[last rock]

@prisma sedge imposter

[rocky mirage]

i hate to say skill issue but theres nothing much else i can say to this. you gotta play at his pace or you die

[untold dune]

it was one of the things i had to look up and im upset about that

[silent tangle]

nah go on talk about it

[knotty shell]

have you tried dodging

[crystal ledge]

WHY DID THEY HAVE TO DO HIM LIKE THAT

[silent tangle]

i looked up that and the path to reach skarrsinger

[brave salmon]

HE HAD TOO MUCH ZAZA

[full halo]

Idk like 100 hours over 2 months but finished at 69

[half idol]

goated build?

[crisp silo]

these are the only support tools i have

which are best for trobbio?

and also why don't i have more is my exploration really bad

[silent tangle]

Kekw

[tight viper]

I just tried different things until I tried the needolin, Sherma also points out that Song is a powerful force in Pharloom

[hybrid flare]

I did all achievements yesterday soo

[rugged solstice]

damn bro did every achievement in one day

[last rock]

best build for trobbio is beating him toolless and needless like a man

[silent tangle]

lowkey didnt feel the need for long needle. you can try changing that unless you like it

[hybrid flare]

100 ish hours

[tight viper]

Cross Stitch is all you need

[solar yarrow]

I beat him like several days ago, so it’s not a skill issue, I just genuinely did not have fun with the fight.

[celest cypress]

no ur using reaper

[celest thorn]

Absolutely insane game and ridiculous final boss, raged so much but won in the end 🙏🙏 Don't know if I prefer it over original HK, both games have their own strengths and weaknesses, but damn does this game know how to be absolutely awesome

[half idol]

what would you recomend me

[carmine yoke]

My friend let me wander around the Mist for like 20 minutes just killing Banshees until he finally told me I had to needolin the butterflies, there's really nothing that leads you to try that, at least not that I've noticed

[hybrid flare]

Lost lace dunks on radiance though

[coral quartz]

they werent doing nothing during those long years and it showed

[steady flower]

THE BEAST INSIDE GROWS EVER STRONGER

[brave salmon]

Wait there's a game??? /j

[half idol]

trying reaper now im main wanderer

[spiral pasture]

honestly i cant go back to hk i feel too slow 🥹

[carmine yoke]

No Reaper build could ever be goated

[crisp silo]

i've only gotten him to phase 2 once )':

[last rock]

Say that again...

[hybrid flare]

With the hollow knight however it's a bit closer

[celest cypress]

i mained reaper until wanderers

[silent tangle]

wanderer main so fast swings so fast silk generation was the go to for me

[full halo]

Where’s ur 100% buddy you need to rebeat the game now

[short zealot]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH LETTTTTTSSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[steady flower]

yes iam a beast crest user and yes i did mean it as a pun

[silent tangle]

congrats

[full halo]

First run?

[last rock]

good job. i eat bugs

[crisp silo]

the window for hitting him with it is really smol

[knotty shell]

if the shield is blocking your attacks, try hitting him right after he does an attack
if you see the shield coming or have any knowledge of his attacks it’s easy to just get out of the way
the fight is nowhere near as miserable as you make it sound

[crystal ledge]

yall fw?

[celest cypress]

vro what am i missing

[tight viper]

Cross Stitch can parry just about everything, if a bomb or tornado is about to hit you use that to dodge

[subtle flint]

Please tell me im not the only one who spent 2 and a half hours trying to get past hunters march

[last rock]

so close to 1 day too

[half idol]

i tryed using it right now against the big head fly and lost completely

[coral quartz]

always satisfying getting mutiple achievements in one re-run

[celest thorn]

Lol yeah the speed upgrade is so much nicer here, but one thing I'm not a huge fan of is the difficulty curve esp in the beginning, as well as the fact you have less moves that trigger i-frames so you have to be a lot more careful

[crystal ledge]

20% of the game clearly

[brave salmon]

Probably tools

[last rock]

use the silksong completionist tracker

[short zealot]

nah I lost 13 hours in on my first steelsoul attempt, this was my second one

[crystal ledge]

BLUH

[rugged solstice]

I genuinely did not enjoy fighting Grimm at all, with the teleporting avoiding my attacks like 99% of the time, and the fireballs falling with like 99% accuracy, I genuinely had a miserable time fighting him.

[coral quartz]

you can see how many tools ur missing now that you can see the completion percentage

[silent tangle]

yes. i went for mirror instead of cracked mask

[celest thorn]

Holy shit congrats

[steady flower]

do you have space to SPRINT?? then i recommened taking advantage of beasts Lunge it has upper hitbox

[celest cypress]

ur right

[last rock]

i do not fw pale nails

[fallow robin]

When are they gonna add support for mods in ss

[crisp silo]

ah i'm only using it after he does tornado and releases them

[steady flower]

beasts sprint is important as its a hyper aggressive crest

[crystal ledge]

ngl imo mirror is only good on witch but u do u

[silent tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-lugoli-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-silksong-silksong-gif-12277145490208687458

[ionic cave]

why is weighted belt so underrated

[full halo]

Fractured mask isn’t worth it id rather do injector band and weave light is debatable ig

Also cross stitch supremacy

[last rock]

multibinder:

[brave salmon]

😔

[celest cypress]

FR

[silent tangle]

with multibinder it goes crazy

[tight viper]

You can have a shitload of blue tools on witch

[crisp silo]

nightmare grimm was awful and also my hard wall with controller

[crystal ledge]

i do, its fast with tracking and does like 2nd-3rd most dmg

[broken basin]

i am about to cry

[errant vessel]

Same reason ppl sleep on steady body in HK

[tight viper]

It’s so fun to make bind nukes

[silent tangle]

man lowkey shaman crest mogs everything

[coral quartz]

so if you get all the tools that takes you to 96%
im assuming you havent finished Eva's storyline so that brings you to 97%
then cleaning up whatever spools or masks you need should bring you to 100%

[last rock]

what hit you bro

[celest thorn]

I still have ||tormented trobbio|| to do as well as a few charms I'm missing cause I just didn't buy lol. Also I'm somehow missing a silk heart, don't know how or what they even do

[broken basin]

life

[lusty valve]

yall im at the mossland and i have a mob that throws a green ball at me and it runs away any way to kill it? iit keeps running away and throwing that projectile is so annoying lol

[celest cypress]

i got sylphsong

[brave salmon]

Can't belive you threw the rasher right in front of him how cruel

[silent tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772031845059657760/1415561117102772314/NONONONO.gif

[modern raptor]

that is crazy at 24 hours i was searching rosaries farm online 😂

[crystal ledge]

fractured mask is always worth it and weavelight is for infinitye nails and i cant think of what else to use, i used to have cross stitch but i lowk find pale nails fun

[ionic cave]

exept this is a yellow tool

[marsh crater]

6 more wtf

[last rock]

True...

[full halo]

what path u using

[knotty shell]

run after it

[loud lily]

nothing that i hate more than the flea juggle in my life

[tight viper]

Want a hint for the heart?

[untold dune]

tbh as the biggest steady body defender, weighted belt just was not as useful to me as the other yellow charms at all

[crystal ledge]

especially ON WITCH

[broken basin]

whisp

[brave salmon]

Hehe :3

[silent tangle]

true

[celest thorn]

Yeah go on I've pretty much looked everywhere and I see people are getting it much earlier on

[rugged solstice]

If the current bosses were put into a Pantheon i feel like i have a good shot at first trying it. If they put some hard ass shit into it though..

[short zealot]

yah I saw someone do it in 17 hours, idk how thats even possible

[full halo]

why

[coral quartz]

silk hearts let you slowly regenerate silk. the more you have the more silk you passively regenerate.
you're porbably missing the one in the Whiteworks

[broken basin]

faster?

[modern raptor]

💀 i got lucky here i gave it just as the last bar disappeared it still worked

[real gull]

Regens silk faster. You get one from bell beast, lace 2, and unraveled

[ionic cave]

so whats your yellow build

[spice ginkgo]

i really want a load game feature

[carmine yoke]

It is so difficult to keep up with this chat sometimes

[short zealot]

js explore bro😭 🙏

[tight viper]

Look around the furnace section of the Whiteward again

[silent tangle]

i dont like weighted belt. you can just upslash to avoid going back plus silksong just promotes high movement over anything so its not like youre standing still for 2 seconds slashing away

[broken basin]

why cant i just kill the old man and break the glass please im hating the game sm rn

[spice ginkgo]

is there like a mod for that

[full halo]

Idk I did blasted steps thru citadel spa and had more time than needed

[celest thorn]

Right so I dont even know what unraveled is 💀

[coral quartz]

Whiteworks!

[broken basin]

blasted steps?

[celest thorn]

Whoops!

[rugged solstice]

To not be raveled

[silent tangle]

whiteward

[untold dune]

dice, ascendants grip, magnet and compass, i could swap out magnet or compass for belt but i like the convenience

[real gull]

Whiteward boss, if you explore enough you will find it eventually

[carmine yoke]

Good game iirc

[full halo]

Ya

[silent tangle]

brother dice is so good

[modern raptor]

yeah i died and lost like 200 rosaries thats why i had to search but its fine

[full halo]

boss

[celest cypress]

i slowly run out of rosaries and i dread rosary farming in act 3

[broken basin]

imma try it u might genuinely be goated

[brave salmon]

All in 🎲

[carmine yoke]

Yeah ik

[silent tangle]

true

[coral quartz]

its a small area so i wont give you like a step by step on how to reach it
you got it

[tidal ruin]

unravelled is bottom 3 bosses tbh

[brave salmon]

Tbh... Yeah

[bleak thorn]

only 1 tool left

[celest thorn]

Don't scare me pls

[full halo]

Then when you reach citadel go through citadel spa no enemies

[carmine yoke]

Dice are good but it hurts to not get reproducible results

[drowsy hazel]

Unravelled was a fun boss.

[tight viper]

The atmosphere alone keeps him out of the bottom tiers

[celest cypress]

fuck that dude he wasnt even hard just straight annoying

[broken basin]

dancer mantis lane for 260 rosaries each run

[worthy fulcrum]

So close

[velvet prism]

How do i start act 3?
I did the 2 ending and fixed the curse after the curse ending

But no sign of change

[brave salmon]

I like the enemies more than the boss tbh

[drowsy hazel]

Voltvessels?

[rare oracle]

wow i just beat the true ending

[tight viper]

Do more quests, find more fleas, find more areas and maps

[coral quartz]

want a hint ?

[silent tangle]

if youre in act 2, sit at first shrine bench, go left along the long corridor defeat the 3 big enemies. you get about 55 rosaries per enemy (with the extra rosary drop tool you get it from grindle)

[brave salmon]

He just runs into walls like my dog 😡

[worthy fulcrum]

Do it all missions

[bleak thorn]

sure

[velvet prism]

So all side quest?

[coral quartz]

memorium

[full halo]

Unraveled is the worst boss in silksong and idc what anyone says I just used tacks and wheels on it

[crisp silo]

i cannot parry and i cannot dodge. my only kneejerk reaction to danger is to dash towards it. that's why a metroidvania has to have iframes dash/roll

[celest cypress]

i said im in act 3 vro

[bleak thorn]

ok, ty

[rare oracle]

||its crazy how this game ends like that, the first actual true ending||

[worthy fulcrum]

Yes
All

[ionic cave]

talk to caretaker

[untold dune]

screw it top 5 least favorite bosses

1. palestag
2. plasmified zango
3. summoned saviour
4. voltvyrm
5. broodmother

[silent tangle]

youre cooked

[modern raptor]

its all until act 2 in act 3 you don't need rosaries at all except for shard bundles

[coral quartz]

replace broodmother with unravelled and you cooked

[broken basin]

wait but my elevator is broken

[brazen osprey]

you dont really need too many if you dont need too many shell shards

[full halo]

Or maybe metroidvanias aren’t for you and you should get back on Mario maker

[silent tangle]

broodmother was worse than palestag for me

[drowsy hazel]

Am I the only one who liked Palestag?

[untold dune]

(palestag is number 1 but a wiide margin btw)

[tight viper]

Top 5 least favorite:

1. Karmelita
2. Cogwork Dancers
3. Phantom
4. Nyleth
5. Seth

[coral quartz]

amazing music and beautiful aesthetic. but the fight itself was horrible. actually 0 substance

[worthy fulcrum]

[tidal ruin]

unravelled is just insanely annoying, pops out of the ground every 5 millennia just for you to maybe hit him once, and god forbid he tries to pop up where you're standing (you will get hit)
just makes for an annoying experience overall

[rugged solstice]

"Im bad at adapting to different video game features, so this genre should always have this thing for me"

[ionic cave]

*most

[crisp silo]

i've never played mario maker but ive finished plenty of metroidvanias but the ones that don't have iframes on dash absolutely should

[celest cypress]

bro i have like 9 tools i need to buy everything

[brave salmon]

🐟
🎣

[drowsy hazel]

I mean it only had 1 attack but it was pretty short, it wasn't anything too special but it was alright.

[leaden mist]

FUCK ||broodmother||

[velvet prism]

Whose that?

[modern raptor]

💀 don't tell me you liked beastfly

[tight viper]

Nah they’re all bad and stupid and dumb and stupid and bad and dumb

[brazen osprey]

voltvrm was so bad, no challenge whatsoever

[leaden mist]

songclave annoying guy

[full halo]

Would make it too easy

[drowsy hazel]

Silksong shouldn't have iframes on dodges.

[bleak thorn]

found it lmao

[tight viper]

More like Bestfly

[modern raptor]

damn good luck then

[untold dune]

it feels like such an early game boss but you need double jump to get to it so like??

[coral quartz]

just needs like 1 more second of delay before attacking after popping out the ground , and 1 more second of delay before going back into the ground, and i think it'd be soooo much better

[velvet prism]

Then anyone know how to dk broodfeast?
This is sort of my last side quest

As far as im aware

[knotty shell]

🥀

[tidal ruin]

volvyrm isn't particularly bad, but its so easy that its just a nothingburger

[crisp silo]

there are other ways to balance

[modern raptor]

😭 wdym i hated everything about that fight although it didnot take many attempts

[coral quartz]

nice! is that all you needed for 100%?

[brazen osprey]

which is the worst thing a boss can be

[tidal ruin]

I agree wholeheartedly

[drowsy hazel]

Use tools. For example flintslate can sear your enemies' organs.

[crisp silo]

idk it just feels like hygiene. maybe i played too much hades and got spoiled

[bleak thorn]

im at 96% now, idk what i should do next

[knotty shell]

filthy contrarian

[ionic cave]

at songclave

[worthy fulcrum]

Is more easy that grass mother

[coral quartz]

have you gotten true ending yet?

[solar yarrow]

I agree with Seth and can understand Nyleth and can understand Karmelita even if I disagree with that, but Cogwork Dancers and Phantom????? Those fights were goated

[bleak thorn]

yep

[vivid belfry]

I disagree, I heavily prefer boring easy wins over frustrating and tedious messes like pinstress

[brave salmon]

You should get 97%

[velvet prism]

Any enemy works right?

[crisp silo]

but everyone had a preferred style of combat and mine is roll through

[full halo]

u got all tools masks spools crests?

[rugged solstice]

Everyone was talking mad shit about Slave Knight Gael, then I pull up and first try him. Fun fight but that guy needs way more health

[vivid belfry]

I don't think robots work

otherwise yes

[bleak thorn]

i got all crests, all masks, all tools, idk if i got all spools

[tidal ruin]

seth is fun I don't understand the hate

[solar yarrow]

What tools skewer??

[tight viper]

Wait you actually agree with/understand the majority of this list?

[celest cypress]

are these two the last items requiring craftmetasl i have 2 left

[vivid belfry]

just longpin and stingshard afaik

[vivid belfry]

have you found the ||ruined tool?||

[full halo]

I mean if u got all spools it will be be white filled out like masks

[ionic cave]

fighting 3 snail shamans is gonna be so good

[coral quartz]

hmm. you prolly missing a crest and need to finish eva's quest. idk what else you could be missing tho

[brazen osprey]

you didn't like pinstress?
i actually liked that fight

[bleak thorn]

i already finished eva quest

[celest cypress]

yea, im in act 3 😭

[carmine yoke]

Can we get a Silksong halloween rom hack where Lace calls us a slur and then Megalovania plays

[weary gorge]

dude I wanna try sawtooth circlet so bad. I have it on my 100% save but never used it. Saw footage online and it actually looks sick

[vivid belfry]

what about pimpillo and cogflies

[tight viper]

Contrarian is my middle name

[vivid belfry]

if so then yeah those are the last ones

[jagged hare]

unc

[coral quartz]

check to see if you have the achievement for all spools

[severe cosmos]

My boss tierlist

[rugged solstice]

This server would not survive a single Fromsoft game

[leaden mist]

unc

[jagged hare]

every one join unc

[severe cosmos]

Based on how much i liked it (fun) and difficutly values

[celest cypress]

yes

[brazen osprey]

still got more to go

[jagged hare]

join silksong 4 for unc

[vivid belfry]

she spends most of the fight floating off the top of the screen like an asshole with almost no opportunity to actually deal damage until she uses a dash attack

[coral quartz]

ok ur missing spool. and check ur tool pouch while in the menu

[vivid belfry]

functionally the same dynamic as uumuu

[coral quartz]

there ya go

[full halo]

YIKES

[coral quartz]

you're missing 2 spool fragments, 1 pouch and 2 tool kits
the missing 4%

[vivid belfry]

it gets better as the fight goes on because you can bait her into falling down after a cross slash but the start is just so goddamn annoying

[tight viper]

Lotta bad takes here

[tidal ruin]

theres your issue! 1 tool pouch, 2 crafting kits, and 2 spools

[severe cosmos]

Shotout to yuri tier

[untold dune]

idk why they made tool pouches and crafting kits count as a % lowkey

[celest thorn]

Wait so ||even after beating the game does the world stay screwed forever||

[carmine yoke]

First Sinner, Second Sentinel and Moorwing would be higher on mine

[split cape]

Serious question, if this was usable, what would y'all think it'll do and what slots would it have?

[tight viper]

All

[tidal ruin]

you did not just call first sinner "okay"

[untold dune]

it is fixed after you beat the boss you just dont get to explore the world after

[severe cosmos]

I just cheesed them, and moorwing was just annoying

[full halo]

My biggest ick with hollow knight / ss is bosses don’t count for % but dumb shit like a tool pouch does

[carmine yoke]

All Blue slots no red no yellow because it would be the best one

[steady flower]

OOOOHO IAM BEASSTING

[bleak thorn]

i know that grindle sells one, but then i need to explore ALL of pharloom to find that one spool oof

[severe cosmos]

Yeah, i cheesed them, i barely experienced it

[tidal ruin]

this is missing binding eva

[vivid belfry]

I'm honestly surprised I don't see more first sinner hate because she pulls the exact same shit as Trobbio and people loathe him

[untold dune]

yeah somewhat agree

[celest thorn]

||nah cause it depresses me to see all the civilisations get screwed especially bellhart||

[coral quartz]

i'll save you the trouble
ur prolly missing the one under the whiteward elevator

[flint rover]

Bosses did count in Hollow Knight

[vivid belfry]

it's part of abilities + charge attack

[brazen osprey]

i thought she gave plenty of chances to attack, there was no attack that i felt i couldn't attack during and she always stayed just in range

[full halo]

I watched a video and found my missing 1, just need a good memory

[carmine yoke]

Who doesn't like Trobbio?? 😭

[restive rivet]

Sylphsong is part of "all abilities"

[celest cypress]

trobbio is fire wdym

[rugged solstice]

Trobbio is easily findable (and required?) so people talk about him way more

[bleak thorn]

lemme check real quick

[full halo]

They did? Been a while

[tidal ruin]

I liked trobbio, I just love first sinner because it feels so fast paced while still being coherent and learnable

[brazen osprey]

wdym?

[upper karma]

Whats the best bench for the stupid arena at the bottom of deep docks
The one to get a flea

[severe cosmos]

I dont hate her, i explained it

[split cape]

Imagine all masks acted like fractured mask, and I think it would prob have something like 3 silk skills, 2 blue slots and 2 yellow slots

[untold dune]

i think they shouldve added a way to locate the missing mask shards and spools once you get farsight tbh

[flint rover]

Not all of them. Dream bosses didn't

[inland wind]

one in bilewater

[worthy fulcrum]

Hello mario

[upper karma]

Wha-

[carmine yoke]

Double Damage resistance and 3 of each slot maybe

[coral quartz]

the one near forge daughter is the closest
if ur struggling with the arena battle use thread storm, it deflects the stupid projectiles

[celest thorn]

I have 5 missing relics 💀

[inland wind]

Oh mb I meant the high halls

[upper karma]

But then I run out of thread storm

[vivid belfry]

Trobbio gets shit for being evasive (backing up when you attack him, hiding under the floorboards, destroying traps with tornado) and First Sinner is way more flaky if you try to engage her but she's universally beloved

[hazy silo]

Why this dodge play is so hard

[split cape]

And silk skills get heavily buffed :trol:

[rugged solstice]

"I can't stand directly next to this boss for the entire time and attack it, therefore it's bad"

[desert grotto]

Can we get this as a sticker? lol

[coral quartz]

farm it from the easy enemies, save it for the flying enemies
if you just straight up dont have enough silk you prolly shouldnt be there yet

[bleak thorn]

LMAO it was this one

[steady flower]

so this is basically how to bounce parkour with BEAST and when you understand how it works its SUPEr easy

[ionic cave]

what if in act 4,everything is pale so you need to void the world

[restive rivet]

Shit got me religious, praying to every god imaginable

[open path]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-beastfly-hollow-knight-gif-7408369009657734077

[vivid belfry]

I unironically feel this way about pinstress but I think FS and Trobbio are both great fights

[upper karma]

I have a bar and a half
I'm in act 3, I just suck at arena fights

[inland wind]

I fw bosses that dodge a lot contrary to lot of people

[coral quartz]

ayyyyy nice, yeah that one's real easy to miss, happy to help!
need help with the tool pouches/kit?

[tight viper]

I can guarantee you that one of em is in whiteward, go right in the passageway in the elevator shaft and go up

[carmine yoke]

I'm telling you, Savage Groalfly will be real

[hazy silo]

Brooooo i lost at 93 🥀

[split cape]

https://tenor.com/view/go-my-scarab-go-my-cogfly-cogfly-silksong-whatever-go-my-cogfly-gif-3567425369574449808

[inland wind]

Bosses tend to be too easy when you can heal every 2 seconds

[untold dune]

damn you have to get way too close to the walls for comfort

[restive rivet]

So you have to wait 2 business days before each pogo..

[bleak thorn]

nah those i "just" need to farm money, but ty

[coarse leaf]

Radiant sisters of beastfly is coming...

[upper karma]

And the fact they're all abyss enemies once youre in act 3 is pissing me off

[worthy fulcrum]

Dou this is very nice

[rugged solstice]

Definitely more noticeable with pinstress but she was still fun for me

[full halo]

My missing last spool was literally THE FIRST SPOOL IN THE GAME behind this wall

So if anyone is missing one check there ig OR whispering vaults

[inland wind]

Ironically this would be an awesome arena

[steady flower]

essentially but thats only because of this particular style in other places you can BOOM bam

[tidal ruin]

trobbio being evasive isn't a bad thing imo, its not just straight annoying cause you can still get good hits in for the majority of the fight (as opposed to something like pinstress, where you have to over-extend for almost every hit)

[tight viper]

Also missed this one lol

[brazen osprey]

do ppl really give him shit for that? i don't actually mind bosses that disappear for a few moments it allows me to get a plan of attack/heal

[iron wigeon]

fuck it I just use wanderer. I keep messing up the spacing

[worthy fulcrum]

[woven perch]

Each time you die in steal soul you get faster at spedrunnitil chorus

[coral quartz]

oh that would be why ur sturggling, its harder in act 3 bc of the ||abyss stuff||
maybe look into using Volt Filament for that extra DPS boost?

[restive rivet]

I jest anyway, nice one proving people wrong that you can't do parkour sections with beast

[steady flower]

yep BUT THATS HOW BEAST is its in the name when you play BEAST you need Cool music and you should believe in your heart and power

[celest cypress]

do beast crest users need tutorials on how to use their pogo 😭

[vivid belfry]

yeah, for the same reason people don't like Karmelita blocking

[coarse leaf]

Beast fans seeing shellwood again

[rugged solstice]

Dont let skongers know about TOTK Ganondorf who actively QTEs you 💀

[modest vessel]

The best crest is Reaper

[steady flower]

i made it for NORMAL people not Beast users i dont think BEAst users bother

[vivid belfry]

I didn't have a problem with shellwood in my beast crest playthrough, I don't know why people keep talking about it

[full halo]

does anyone else think cross stitch is the most op skill especially when used and managed right

[untold dune]

i am glad beast crest exists but i am staying away from it

[modest vessel]

Ok hunter

[ionic cave]

wanderer or architect

[tidal ruin]

seeing that guy dodge a flurry rush made me instantly afraid

[split cape]

Here we go again with the biased reaper users

[vivid belfry]

it has the worst damage of any skill, it's just really good for defense

[restive rivet]

People need to realise you're killing someone that's also trying to kill you. If you won't stop til you win, why would they

[steady flower]

you should try beast only playthroigh eventually EVERY fight has my insides coming close to my outsides with how much war goes on

[modest vessel]

My first playthrough was with reaper and steel soul one will be hunter

[tight viper]

It’s either that or thread storm

[coarse leaf]

Cross stitch is my favorite block button

[inland wind]

Fun to use, needs higher damage imo

[full halo]

That’s too shallow. A strong defense is strong offense. Live longer, more cross stitch, more damage

[coral quartz]

its a great defensive skill, and it gives you a good amount of i-frames afterwards, but its dmg is weak

[tight viper]

Nah, it’s got insane iframes it doesn’t need damage

[vivid belfry]

okay if you want to do this as a challenge then yes I recommend it but if you want to have fun, you should at least swap off beast for pinstress and that one jump in cog core

[tidal ruin]

I think cross stitch needs either higher damage, or less silk comsumption when you land it

[untold dune]

i will probably once rando comes out

[weary gorge]

definetly not. Pale Nails is obscene. Even if the Thread Storm does more damage Pale Nails is just, dodge attacks and let Pale Nails do massive damage for you constantly the entire time

[coarse leaf]

The point i think is an "oh god" button

[steady flower]

whats rando

[untold dune]

the randomizer mod

[vivid belfry]

it has zero startup frames, we don't need sharpdart getting flexed on any harder

[coral quartz]

counterargument: why live longer when the enemies can live shorter lol

[split cape]

All items are basically random

[steady flower]

i seeeeeeeee

[restive rivet]

The best thing to happen to gaming of all generations

[weary gorge]

I think it's fine as is, but it's def not OP

[untold dune]

if you havent done rando for normal hollow knight it is soo much fun

[brazen osprey]

really damn. ig i just dont have an uber aggresive playstyle for it to bother me

[tidal ruin]

let parry turn silksong into nine sols

[lean peak]

YOUVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME I LOST MY STEEL SOUL RUN TO SOME RANDOM ENEMY IN SHELLWOOD AFTER I GOT HIT INTO IT TWICE

[steady flower]

you should become hyper aggressive playstyle NOW!! infact beast actually eencourages hyper aggression

[cerulean needle]

Is it fun even if you can't do all the skips? Probably the biggest concern I have regarding hollow knight randos

[hazy silo]

🫂

[tight viper]

I love when the randomizers decide to be extra brutal

[vivid belfry]

see the thing is Karmelita actually folds to hyper aggression, the problem is that people only try to attack her while she's idle (the safe move) and that's when she blocks

[tight viper]

There’s settings for this

[coral quartz]

trobbio is incredibly easy if ur actually patient. seen so many ppl who complain about his difficulty and i see their gameplay and it's hyper aggressive and they're constantly dashing into him.

[steady flower]

I think what most people get wrong about beast crest is they try to play it LIEK A NORMAL game or HK NO beast crest is essentially an action game you WILL take damage But it doesnt matter Do more damage gain silk Go beast mode deal more damage

[untold dune]

yeah theres a setting that disables complex skips being required so you can just chill

[coral quartz]

some of the bosses in this game require aggression, others require a more passive approach

[vivid belfry]

I have to say one more thing about Trobbio

[bright sierra]

I love that ||after you defeat lost lace|| if you've used cogflies during the fight the cogflies just fly up with you ||during the cutscene where you super jump||

[pseudo wagon]

karmelita folds to shaman

[split cape]

Whatever, go my angry swarm of cogflies

[hybrid flare]

Pinstress is rlly good imo

[full halo]

Has anyone done a beast crest only run? Is it fun?

[restive rivet]

Literally me after getting hit by a small rat into a bigger rat below greymoor

[hybrid flare]

You basically move with her

[pseudo wagon]

yes

[inland wind]

She’s not amazing but it was still a pretty fun fight

[gray horizon]

People here are doing steel soul runs and I’m just sitting here in Act 1 like “Help me” I find this game so hard let alone challenge runs

[cerulean needle]

I know people hate pinstress, but I enjoyed that fight a lot

[tidal ruin]

please let me see the groal fight like this

[coral quartz]

it happens, random enemies gonna ruin ur steel soul run more than bosses. dont give up

[hazy silo]

Some enemies are just like "wait for it... Shh, not yet, ok now, now wait..."

[hybrid flare]

She's like mid-low A tier to me

[vivid belfry]

I know he's not defined by his subtlety, but it is a really cool and subtle bit of strategy that you can tell which sparkler fountain is going to summon him in phase 2 by where the spotlight is pointing

[tidal ruin]

I wanna see the kirby knockoff get obliterated (again)

[steady flower]

DUDE YES its so GOOD you have to use beast crest is HYPER aggression tho even against bosses that require timing take timing you still need to be on thier face

rage mood boosts your attack speed AS WeLL so use rage mode to damage too not just healing

[ionic cave]

flying enemies always dodging

[brazen osprey]

i did not like beast crest, i used it a bit and went "this is not for me"

[thick surge]

hi guys so like i met shakra in far fields but didn't have enough to buy the map but when i returned she isnt there

[split cape]

He fucking died

[coral quartz]

team cherry's attention to detail wins again

[steady flower]

it only heals 2 caps of damage anyway so the goal is to constantly keep getting SIlk

[tidal ruin]

isn't it also just the last one fired? or am I stupid

[hazy silo]

Flying enemies are the worst thing in this game bro I can't

[coral quartz]

bone bottom camp

[thick surge]

isnt there either

[cerulean needle]

You gotta bring the fight to them, run towards them or do clawline or something

[restive rivet]

We were all there tbh. The thing that'll make the game approachable is to not go into it thinking you can be aggressive and face tank everything. Have strategies for obstacles, and do more learning of enemy patterns rather than jump straight into combat. They are trying to kill you as much as you them

[vivid belfry]

She's tolerable if you burst the fuck out of her first phase with boomerangs because there is no other way to deal appreciable damage to her while she's in zoner spam mode

[tight viper]

You can buy it later, or at bone bottom

[brazen osprey]

go to bonebottom

[coral quartz]

did you ring the thingy

[sonic wagon]

Attempt 37 on steel soul, got to the forum and died

[steady flower]

when i played Beast crest first time 1 rage mode ult will give you 50% of SILK ALREADY

[full halo]

Does hunter crest have a special ability or no

[cerulean needle]

Hornet has a lot more tools in her arsenal to deal with flying enemies

[steady flower]

so you if you plan and fight properly

[thick surge]

what thingy

[untold dune]

when you evolve it you can build focus meaning you deal more damage until you get hit

[vivid belfry]

not always

[steady flower]

beast crest can keep up rage mode and constantly heal 2 caps of damage

[hybrid flare]

You'd have to bait her out of that phase, she will melee you if you are far away enough

[vivid belfry]

but frequently

[carmine yoke]

ring the ring

[restive rivet]

This is why I do it as late as possible with poison cogflies... It's the most stressful part of speedrun so I wouldn't dare do it early for steel soul

[coral quartz]

her rings are on a stick. if you hit them she gets summoned

[thick surge]

ah there she is

that was funny

[full halo]

I got it upgrade it but didn’t understand the focus thing. So dps builds over time until I get hit and reset to base dmg?

[lean peak]

i was just trying to get stuff before i get the last 2 melodies i needed from the citadel :/ died trying to get pollip hearts

[vivid belfry]

I do not find this particularly engaging either

[sonic wagon]

I refuse to do steel soul while abusing quitting to save

[inland wind]

Clearly this run is superior

[untold dune]

i just did the trails end quest first and got shakra to help me there tbh

[bright sierra]

that happened to me twice

[hybrid flare]

If pinstress fails anywhere, it's there

[sonic wagon]

Oh shit i should have done that, i could have cheesed it that way

[full halo]

Who was in the forum again?

[slate forge]

I finally beat moorwing but isn't he supposed to drop a beast shard? I didn't get it

[coral quartz]

make sure to do it as late as possible. dont rush into it.
you can have 9 masks, max thread, shakra, disable the stupid silk spiders, and +3 nail before attempting it

[hazy silo]

i went to bilewater in act 2, was fun, until I opened the map after losing on bossfight

[split cape]

Survival instincts of a house fly

[full halo]

Idts

[coral quartz]

high halls gauntlet

[tight viper]

I really wish I found this guy immediately in my first playthrough, I did find the shard statue but I figured that was it

[sonic wagon]

THAT gauntlet guarding the melody

[untold dune]

yeah it makes it so much easier

[restive rivet]

Oh nice I'll try that on my next steel soul. I only did the removing silk eater thing, forgot you can have allies. Is shakra there for thr majority of the fight?

[slate forge]

Idts?

[vivid belfry]

like there is an amount of time that a boss can spend in defense mode that's tolerable

[steady flower]

so guys Another thing about beast crest is you can PHASE through enemies with its Downward dash

because the 80 degree dash has More iframes but slightly slower windup time so if you dash the moment dash begins youll PHASE through your enemies using Iframes

[vivid belfry]

it's never a problem for Trobbio, it's never a problem for Last Judge

[coral quartz]

shes there from the start of wave 2

[lean pollen]

i hate this area

[vivid belfry]

Pinstress overshoots this time by like 10 seconds

[rain socket]

dave...

[full halo]

Peak area

[inland wind]

Have you considered not touching the water

[cerulean needle]

Idk, I was constantly running after the pinstress and whacking her in my fight

[untold dune]

she will be there for the entirety of the gauntlet, shell be standing at the entrance and u just need to ask her help

[marsh crater]

useful or useless?

[spiral pasture]

useful
still prefer other yellows though

[tight viper]

Solid tool

[rain socket]

useful

[coral quartz]

dont die, hope this helps!
(if ur really struggling get flintslate from deep docks)

[marsh crater]

ohh alrr

[inland wind]

Makes any courier quest a lifesaver

[spiral pasture]

magnetite dice is just currently stuck to my crests its never getting freed

[brazen osprey]

last judge is underrated imo

[restive rivet]

Gorgeous

[hybrid flare]

I don't rlly like how trobbio just hides away for a significant portion of the fight

[tidal ruin]

at least give us something engaging to do while we wait, her 3 little pins are so easy to avoid she may as well just throw a fart

[mellow yacht]

what do dic eeven do

[marsh crater]

oh okay

[untold dune]

small chance to negate damage taken

[vivid belfry]

you can theoretically jump after her with faydown and get 1 or 2 hits in, but you will immediately get countered with a projectile if you don't happen to deflect it while hitting her

[hybrid flare]

And last judge is basically never defensive

[rain socket]

lace 2 is fucking easy ngl

[coral quartz]

yk what weird thing, there was one run where she wasnt outside the arena but still helped me after the first wave.
but there was another where she was outside and helped me from the first wave.
i think it depends on if you duel her or not?

[mellow yacht]

look look double parry

[rain socket]

every boss is easy ngl

[restive rivet]

Useful. The speed is 1 thing, the ability to save you when you're panicking is another

[cerulean needle]

Yeah, that's what I did, got hit a few times but it's no big deal

[modern raptor]

💀 not me pressing the button just to realise there ain't enough silk and taking damage

[vivid belfry]

it is objectively the correct strategy to run away like a little bitch until she gets tired of spamming and comes after you, and it sucks

[severe prism]

Holy cow, and I thought ||courier’s rasher|| was the hardest delivery 0.o

||https://youtu.be/4d99IxYiXNg?si=rDNW_Y1h5vPM6hZ4||

[untold dune]

weird, idk how any of that would work, i didnt duel her at all in that save so

[brazen osprey]

jump, i dont usually play aggressive but jumping and attacking leads to her going down or doing a different move

[marsh crater]

fair fair

[tidal ruin]

usually no, jumping makes her go higher and further away

[cerulean needle]

You're in act 3, single mask damage is nothing much, and it's not too hard to dodge

[dull cape]

it's over

[coral quartz]

theres so many little things that interact with one another in this game for all i know if i sneezed five times she helps you one wave earlier lmao

[brazen osprey]

double jump

[restive rivet]

Idc how long it is, I am going through citadel for this 😭

[coral quartz]

now we wait for DLC

[full halo]

The delivery quests can eat my nuts

[mellow yacht]

hey, some environmental hazards that used to deal double damage dont anymore

what happened

[dull cape]

ideally not DLC but content packs as with HK

[untold dune]

surely this would be easier through citadel instead of bilewater??

[tight viper]

First patch

[tidal ruin]

same deal, you might get one hit in but then you have to return to the ground and repeat which is really unfun

[dull cape]

some still do but most were patched.

[inland wind]

Allat for 400 roseries

[knotty shell]

dlc is dlc

[vivid belfry]

why would I dodge at close range if the reward for doing so is almost nothing and I can just not engage with the boss at all until she switches into melee mode

[coral quartz]

ppl got sad, team cherry made them hapy

[crystal ledge]

how am i meant to play with beast crest

[light swan]

my personal favorite yellow, its super satisfying and lowkey useful against certain attacks where you just wanna zip away super fast (and also certain hit and run crests are good with it too)

[dull cape]

HK's content is not DLC, that's just a fact

[tight viper]

Aggressively

[celest cypress]

GHOW DO I GET THE ITEMS

[mellow yacht]

i had auto downloads off, how come

[coral quartz]

if you dont like it, dont use it

[tight viper]

Go up

[lean peak]

just asking... where do people who use mods usually get their mods from?

[inland wind]

go on the top room

[celest thorn]

Where do I get the key for that one lock in whiteward

[restive rivet]

Now we just wait for randomiser or smth, god when will they release silksong 2 😭

[marsh crater]

damn everyone loves it means A grade tool fs

[coral quartz]

they're taking so long smh

[tight viper]

It released a few days after the game came out

[untold dune]

far right of songclave or buy it from jubilana

[crystal ledge]

no i feel like i might like it i just cant find a way to play that doesnt immediately get me killed

[restive rivet]

We've waited long enough 😭

[vivid belfry]

beast crest fans will tell you that it's a really good idea to hit enemies from the side with the pogo

[tight viper]

Furnace room, go up and go up again

[vivid belfry]

do not fucking listen to them

[untold dune]

wait nvm thats for white key

[glacial kelp]

idk but there certainly was a patch

[mellow yacht]

where does Jubilana go?

it says the citadels memorial but where the hell is that

[vivid belfry]

you use beast pogo well above the enemy and far enough away that you form a 30 degree angle with them and the ground

[drowsy hazel]

Hit enemies from the side with the pogo.

[celest cypress]

curve claw but wasnt there another

[tight viper]

Up

[full halo]

Top 3 yellow tools

Dice
Silkspeed
Weighted belt

[lavish eagle]

Can I get all the act 2 endings in a file before going to act three? And getting both of the act three ending in just 1 save file?

[tidal ruin]

memorium, not memorial

[untold dune]

if you have double jump, you can go up to that mossy area in the big hallway at the top

[brazen osprey]

eh i found it fun 🤷‍♂️

[drowsy hazel]

You can get everything in one file.

[glacial kelp]

compass is 0th tier as per usual

[tight viper]

Is the steel soul tool pouch excluded?

[mellow yacht]

could you use the knockback you get from trying to focus with the cursed witch crest for skips?

[drowsy hazel]

By the way there's 3 act 2 endings and 1 act 3 ending.

[full halo]

yes and compass

[lean peak]

on the way to cogwork core from songclave you will find an area that goes up memorium is up there but you need double jump

[celest thorn]

Ay thanks

[lavish eagle]

I just need to not enter act three before getting all act 2 endings right?

[compact locust]

HOLY SHIT I FINALLY GOT CURSED ENDING

[brazen osprey]

the grip one is also in the running, helps so much in fights and in platforming

[coral quartz]

its good if you have a super aggressive playstyle, but like if thats not ur thing i wouldnt recommend it

[glacial kelp]

you can use the beast bug for it but eh

[lean peak]

what beast bug?

[drowsy hazel]

Yes. Before you complete act 3 you should also complete the Mr Mushroom quest for an additional cutscene and achievement.

[vivid belfry]

I keep forgetting to equip this for Nyleth and it's so obviously meant for her

[glacial kelp]

ascendant grip is so weird to use icl

[crystal ledge]

me using the quadratic formula to calculate the exact 32.643 degree angle i need to hit the beast crest pogo on this one red bulb thing

[compact locust]

oh shit bro finally

[glacial kelp]

grounded charge attack storage

[severe prism]

Maybe, but gotta open the route for that first

[graceful cairn]

guys i think i dont like wanderers

[full halo]

What’s the most expensive item in ss

[vivid belfry]

for platforming it's significantly more forgiving due to the lack of contact damage

[lavish eagle]

Oh mr mushroom is in silk song 0:

[frosty light]

these guys are such assholes

[tight viper]

The Spa I think?

[severe prism]

Spa for your house. 1100

[vivid belfry]

you can hit platforms ABOVE you because of the circular hitbox and get launched up

[glacial kelp]

probably one of the bellhome upgrades

[crystal ledge]

look at my build.

[untold dune]

if youre at this point in the game and you havent yet then what are you doing tbf

[restive rivet]

Hollow knight 3 when you have to know the golden ratio and the square root of e

[brazen osprey]

it cheeses the fight basically lmao

[full halo]

Remove mask I beg

[hybrid flare]

i dont think you need that as you'll spend 90% of the fight mindlessly pogoing her to death

[tight viper]

No longclaw?

[vivid belfry]

and the distance you travel during the pogo is a benefit during most platforming sections as well

[severe prism]

What’s that silk tool?

[coral quartz]

or midndlessly harpooning her to death

[modest vessel]

This is why you use hunter reaper and wanderer only

[sacred flicker]

Eyo guys

[crystal ledge]

longclaw gives me about 2 cm of reach

[glacial kelp]

wait a spinning pogo that follows the golden ratio would be beautiful

[hybrid flare]

That works aswell

[brazen osprey]

its weird in the beginning but once you get used to it its so fun

[crystal ledge]

u mean silk skill? thats pale nails

[full halo]

2cm is a big difference

[drowsy hazel]

Pale Nails? It's Act 3 exclusive.

[celest cypress]

guys is curve claw better or curve sickle

[tight viper]

Better than 0cm of reach

[severe prism]

Damn

[crystal ledge]

no.

[restive rivet]

TC stare away from this channel PLS

[coarse leaf]

in act 3 i thought they gonna do 3 mask of dmg or some shi but adding emotional damage is even worse

[full halo]

That’s what she said

[tight viper]

Sickle is a direct upgrade

[glacial kelp]

isnt sickle literally the upgrade

[untold dune]

i mean, curvesickle is an upgrade of curveclaw so like

[celest cypress]

ik but like is it REALLY an upgrade

[crystal ledge]

what u got against mask dude

[full halo]

noob item remove it now

[vivid belfry]

yes

[tight viper]

Very much so, does more damage and has a better hitbox

[crystal ledge]

look again at my build

[vivid belfry]

people hallucinate it moving faster and doing less hits but it's literally the same

[drowsy hazel]

Curveclaw is better since it's the downgrade.

[restive rivet]

When garmond dies...

When gay dancers die...

When Mort dies and his body is dumped elsewhere...

Damn you TC

[tidal ruin]

this is gonna be the elden ring ranged damage argument all over again

[crystal ledge]

you think im not a noob? i am complete ass at this game cro

[full halo]

also change pale nails to cross stitch (bc I said so)

[glacial kelp]

add this along with horse racing and its goty

[crystal ledge]

pale nails lets me kill shit and do a lot of damage with 0 skill required so thats why i use it

[upper karma]

I gave in and used the stupid wheel tool

[vivid belfry]

you can't complain about noob tools and then keep cross stitch on for general use

[coral quartz]

we didnt get enough gambling in silksong tbh. we need more dice game team cherry!!!

[upper karma]

Got it on the second try

[full halo]

cross stitch is cool as fuck

[tight viper]

DLC that lets us free Loam and ride around on him

[dull cape]

curveclaw is much better as it takes significantly less time to type

[cedar trench]

weavelight?

[coral quartz]

you had it right the first time LMAO

[crystal ledge]

meanwhile me missing 75% of my cross stitches:

[floral kindle]

They deal me emotional damage through annoyance because why tf kratt is still alive, let me blow him up

[tight viper]

Nah I typed hin

[coral quartz]

damn it i cant read :[

[full halo]

i mean pale nails does have some aura too

[cedar trench]

how the fuck di you have a cast build with wanderer in act 3

[dull cape]

knowing the way team cherry prices things... they will not ship DLC even in 2025, just content expansions as with HK

[crystal ledge]

regens to 4 silk so i can constantly have pale nails if i want

[tight viper]

Then autocorrect decided to be evil

[hybrid flare]

Cross stitch is js goated like that

[crystal ledge]

yes they r also cool as hell especially with volt filament like have u seen that shit

[vivid belfry]

pale nails is very nearly the definitive boss fight skill

[severe cosmos]

Huuuuu

[drowsy hazel]

Pale Nails if they teleport a lot, otherwise Threadstorm.

[tidal ruin]

pale nails is like if shade soul was homing

[coral quartz]

just assume whenever someone mentions silksong dlc they're referring to content expansions. thats what most ppl call it

[tight viper]

That’s what I meant, it’s just quicker to type DLC

[crystal ledge]

i dunno but i beat karmelita with it with fair ease so id say its pretty good

[modern raptor]

wait do boss health increase as needle upgrades just like in hollow knight?

[vivid belfry]

silk spear honestly just keeps doing work through the whole game

[untold dune]

surely ragebait

[celest cypress]

ok vro

[dull cape]

the distinction is super important

[drowsy hazel]

It's just a very solid skill, you can never go wrong with it.

[vernal ivy]

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[severe cosmos]

Fym?? What was "wrong" in my opinion???

[vivid belfry]

me getting sick of being conservative with tool use in coral tower

[dull cape]

gotta continue playing more

[plucky falcon]

3/10 ragebait

[coral quartz]

coral tower

[crystal ledge]

i dont like shaman crest no yellow slots and bad feeling moveset

[drowsy hazel]

Keep playing and you'll know.

[vernal ivy]

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[full halo]

so aren’t u an Elden Ring guy is SS peaker than ER

[restive rivet]

WTAF my guy

[drowsy hazel]

It doesn't do anything, you need it for a quest.

[untold dune]

i do not appreciate curveclaw or sting shard slander

[dull cape]

someone will eventually want it if you try to complete this game enough.

[vernal ivy]

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[coral quartz]

Barbed Bracelet at the TOP of S Tier???
+20% dmg for 2x dmg yes how fair and balanced

[brazen osprey]

silkspeed :(

[cedar trench]

MY BAD

[vernal ivy]

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[severe cosmos]

Fym i like sting shard. (Curveclown is too niche)

[crystal ledge]

im ngl, i have 293 hours on elden ring and honestly after the last bit of gameplay in like act 3 and some bosses earlier im beginning to say yeah

[dull cape]

the game has multiple endings, seeker's soul is involved in one of the endings. act 3 is a big surprise reveal, sorry you got spoiled

[vivid belfry]

me when I want to trigger a glitch that deletes my entire shell shard inventory in coral tower

[severe cosmos]

Yeah??? It is good for boss cheesing

[drowsy hazel]

Sawtooth Circlet at lowest tier is crazy.

[cedar trench]

the fuck

[graceful cairn]

pale nails is amazing

[crystal ledge]

thats what im sayin

[severe cosmos]

WHO is using baloon and double jump to attack???

[coral quartz]

ur not cheesing any bosses if ur get 2-3 shot by literally all of them lmao
its objectively bad +20% dmg for 2x dmg is actually just a scam its B tier at BEST

[knotty shell]

speedrunners

[tight viper]

It’s fast as hell when done right

[cedar trench]

sawtooth circlet is hilarious because it turns the final boss into a cutscene and then it does nothing else

[restive rivet]

NGL on 2nd playthroughs y'all will also 1st try coral tower everytime. It's fiendishly easy when you've practiced patience

[crystal ledge]

dude i swear though just give witch crest one yellow slot (maybe remove a red) and beast one blue slot and both crests will be unimaginably better feeling

[obtuse pewter]

First Sinner really is one of the coolest bosses ever

[untold dune]

the true ending tas is going to prove this so wrong

[dull cape]

what is the time taken from 0 silk to 4 silk with weavelight, and what is the time from 1 silk to 4 silk

[full halo]

nice. I finished SS but I think I still like ER more.

are u at the final boss btw

[hoary laurel]

just beat the shit outta lace 2

[vivid belfry]

that's not true it fucks up mount fay and bilewater platforming

[severe cosmos]

You js dont use it right

[crystal ledge]

idk 1-4 but 0-4 is like 8-10 seconds

[severe cosmos]

itt is MY opinion not the tas' opinion

[drowsy hazel]

https://youtu.be/D4KT4xuZBw0?si=jay9glwMj4d-wwAg

[brazen osprey]

fr

[dull cape]

what you said doesn't seem to relate to what they said though lol

[untold dune]

first sinner is good because they make you accept at the end and i was an accepter during the silkpost era

[vivid belfry]

that's another thing it does

[obtuse pewter]

thats only the 2nd time ive fought her but i was a bit less prepared this time

[coral quartz]

i dont say this often but ur opinion is uh bad

[cedar trench]

it's ok it's not like platforming is important in those areas

[crystal ledge]

of silksong? no i js got all 4 hearts and im gonna go into the dream today

[sonic wagon]

Should i do a steel soul attempt with the double bosses mod

[obtuse pewter]

and having less gear felt better lowk

[dull cape]

oh I get it now. eh, i think it's great in combat and so do the TAS players

[fathom raven]

It would destroy witches purpose though. It’s not meant for exploration as much. It’s kinda more for boss fights

[graceful cairn]

wha

[coral quartz]

fuck yeah

[severe cosmos]

IT IS BASED ON HOW MUCH I USE IT AND HOW STRONG I THINK IT IS!! I AM NOT A SPEEDRUNNER SO CIRCLET IS USELESS!

[vivid belfry]

idk how much that's still true after the nerf

[crystal ledge]

average silksong player

[cerulean ivy]

Oh and for an extra measure, do it while being cursed the whole time

[celest thorn]

Lmao my run of the game was cursed. Got to act 2 without defeating last judge, beat GMS before getting to sands of karak, never got captured and taken to slab, and got true ending before getting all silk hearts

[tired flume]

Guys so here is the thing, i have 46+ hours in the game right now.
I still haven't discovered double jump.
I am stuck at the high halls gauntlet for several days now.
I have not discovered a few map areas yet.

Note: no spoilers

[sonic wagon]

[cedar trench]

FAAAAALSE #ATTACKMODE #FULLPOWER

[severe cosmos]

Saying someone's opinion is bad doesnt even make SENSE

[brazen osprey]

and the whispering vaults. i remember i got it and used it immediately fucking up all the boxes

[dull cape]

and unfortunately if you get any silk by doing dmg, it doesn't greatly lower the number because it takes away from the fastest silk hearts

[shell perch]

how can i replay silksong for the first time again 😔

[safe vessel]

focking useless 🔥🔥🔥

[vivid belfry]

why is TC nerfing niche shit like sawtooth and cogwheel instead of wanderer out-DPSing everything with minimal effort

[sonic wagon]

I wouldnt be able to bind eva for 100% then tho

[restive rivet]

You are in a spoilers channel G. Go left of slab for double jump

[tight viper]

Are there any unexplored paths or things you can now revisit on your map?

[high copper]

Who tf thought that replacing Fourth Chorus with a buffed Savage Beastfly was a good idea 🥀💔

[cedar trench]

isn't cogwgeel like turbo shit

[dull cape]

using silk spear above a box will launch it down. which sucks

[vivid belfry]

It's complicated

[untold dune]

where can i get one of those

[drowsy hazel]

A tool doesn't become bad for others if speedrunners use them. Speedrunners use them because they're good tools.

[crystal ledge]

so/

[shell perch]

i tried it already..

[restive rivet]

It's been a great month for us wanderers

[cerulean ivy]

Eh, youll figure it out

[cedar trench]

12th architect's stock is so ass i buy everything just to watch her die

[sonic wagon]

🥹

[brazen osprey]

i use parry or storm lmao

[vivid belfry]

it used to be pretty good for the cost, but now you NEED to land every hit for it to be worth it, and landing every hit with cogwheel is sisyphian

[severe cosmos]

Fym i never said it was bad cuz speedrunners use it

[brazen osprey]

real

[hoary laurel]

what do silk hearts do

[severe cosmos]

Bros been js saying anything to do slander agaisnt facts /j

[sonic wagon]

im going to get my ass handed to me by double skarrguard 😭

[clever socket]

currently working on a completion checklist website || sneak peak because I think it's pretty cool looking!||

[tight viper]

Passive silk regen

[vivid belfry]

cogwheel fucking demolishes the unraveled and other very large enemies but that's about all it's good for now

[drowsy hazel]

You said you're not a speedrunner so circlet is useless. It's not like non-speedrunners just can't use the circlet.

[tight viper]

Caps at however many you have

[ocean bridge]

blunt force trauma to the cranial area

[cedar trench]

i'll keep that in mind i hate that fat bastard

[floral kindle]

Regenerates one silk notch

[coral quartz]

weavelight being in shit is crazy its guaranteed silk skill availability with 3 silk hearts 💀

[dull cape]

idk about blaming an item for whether you decide to integrate it and get its value

[crystal ledge]

DUDE I JUST WANT ONE BLUE SLOT ON BEAST PLEASEEEE I NEED MY VOLT FILAMENT AND FRACTURED MASK

[vernal ivy]

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[severe cosmos]

TO MEE!! BRO.

[cedar trench]

ass

[hoary laurel]

is ||the cradle|| the start of ||act 3||?

[split trellis]

Do I install no 2mask dmg mod or no (I completed hollow knight)

[vivid belfry]

I also recommend using Hunter charge attack on his back after the charge, the hitbox is huge so you're in no danger of stubbing your toe on his coat tail and you get 2 silk

[untold dune]

weavelight is also like the platforming tool alongside ascendants grip

[severe cosmos]

it is MY opinion not anyone else's lmao

[vernal ivy]

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[tired flume]

Is wanderer that crest with fast attacks?

I tried it, but i still currently play with the reaper crest.
I currently prefer the reaper down slash vs the wanderer down slash
Also the reaper dash attack is superior than the wanderer dash attack based on my experience

[split trellis]

Okay

[dull cape]

sherma would be afraid of all your yelling

[brazen osprey]

nah not necessary

[crystal ledge]

install no double damage but better, the mod that removes all double damage by making it triple damage instead :D

[restive rivet]

Guys the chart is his opinion. We HAVE to respect it (as painful as it is to look at 😭 )

[severe cosmos]

Really bro?💔

[split trellis]

I ain't falling for that g 🫩

[dull cape]

he would tho

[untold dune]

you really shouldnt

[vernal ivy]

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[vivid belfry]

I agrree wanderer dash attack is one of the worst, but it carries with just how fast its basic strikes are since they do just as much damage as reaper

[bleak thorn]

tf do you mean

[vivid belfry]

windows 10 support ending

[crystal ledge]

its not a troll the mod actually exists

[tight viper]

She’s old

[ruby relic]

Finally... i got every bada** finisher from Hornet

[untold dune]

mkv file format 💔

[tired flume]

Doesnt the wanderer have a shorter range?

[split trellis]

I was just concerned, everyone was saying that it's super hard

[coral quartz]

Erm actually they publically shared their opinion in a public space so it is fully in my right to NOT respect it

[dull cape]

i think i liked wanderer's dash attack better than hunter's even with the obvious comboing

[severe cosmos]

So, uhh.

[ocean bridge]

using hunter crest as a baseline
wanderer attacks 34% faster
reaper attacks 18% slower

[clever socket]

my bad one sec

[sonic wagon]

Steel soul with the doubled damage mod while cursed with double bosses

[restive rivet]

Do NOT listen to people about difficulty.

30% of people have beat SS on steam
23% of people have beat HK1

Do NOT install no double damage mod

[split trellis]

I know and I don't want that 🥀

[sonic wagon]

am i making it past deep docks

[dull cape]

haha no. don't mess with the game balance on a first play

[hoary laurel]

what am I gonna fight, the moon?

[full halo]

rate my blue tool tierlist

[crystal ledge]

switch hunter and shaman and move reaper down a tier and u got a good list

[vivid belfry]

it's almost as long as hunter, the big difference is in the height of the hitbox which is significant in some instances but for any grounded boss fight it's not gonna matter

[cerulean ivy]

Make it so you take triple damage

[celest thorn]

Is sherma a boy or a girl cause I always thought girl but people keep saying he

[coral quartz]

Don’t trust any online discourse about difficulty you’d be shocked at how many ppl are just bad at games

[vital raft]

I saw a nyleth comment. It's a trash boss

[severe cosmos]

Saying if someones opinion is good is crazy

[drowsy hazel]

Boy.

[untold dune]

magma bell should be a bit higher

[crystal ledge]

SHIT MAKE FRACTURED MASK HIGHER

[vital raft]

Dog food garbage

[brazen osprey]

my hunters goat 😔

[split trellis]

Alr I'm playing it normally

[full halo]

It’s already A cro

[coral quartz]

Kinda falls off once you have 8+ masks

[restive rivet]

Get ready for goty

[severe cosmos]

So i need to put everything to S so everyone can like my opinion

[plain dagger]

Okay but Claw Mirror and Witch crest is basically a nuke

[marsh crater]

dis good?

[clever socket]

also proud of this little animation! ||embeds dont betray me again||

[sonic wagon]

Magma bell is too low tbh

[crystal ledge]

i have 10 masks and i still use it

[floral kindle]

Yeah

[full halo]

Situational

[vital raft]

No the game is balanced around these damage values. Healing is much faster, three times better and silk builds fast

[crystal ledge]

and it still saves my life constantly

[drowsy hazel]

I've never taken it off other than memory sequences in Steel Soul.

[vivid belfry]

you're underevaluating memory crystal

[mystic raptor]

With surgical pins

[untold dune]

eyy thats really nice

[sonic wagon]

Sawtooth circlet is also situational

[crystal ledge]

doesnt it do like 0 damage

[cerulean ivy]

I completed Silksong with double mask on, eventually, you will get used to it

[brazen osprey]

nah nah im just jokin around, im a glazer for the hunter crest

[coral quartz]

Didnt say it was bad with 8+ masks just that it’s not as good as it is with less health
That’s why it’s perfect in A tier

[lusty wharf]

Final boss spoiler!
My favorite crest so fahr XD

[full dome]

How to open this door?

[crystal ledge]

fair point

[coral quartz]

Ok bruh that’s steel soul lol I always had it equipped there too. But dying ain’t so bad in normal mode

[vivid belfry]

it does double needle damage just like thorns, except you can bait enemies into clustering around it before it goes off and it doesn't gimp iframes

[drowsy hazel]

From the other side.

[restive rivet]

Breakable wall somewhere above

[plain dagger]

I too love the GOD crest

[full halo]

Situational as in limited to fire enemies but I feel like circlet can be used on most ? Depending on playstyle

[crystal ledge]

just dont care if people like ur opinion we gonna say shit anyway

[tight ember]

FUCK YOU FLEAS

[brazen osprey]

just dont get hit

[restive rivet]

Goddamn that's a juicy dodge score

[vivid belfry]

fractured mask in A

[crystal ledge]

oh that might be worth using ngl

[untold dune]

of course... why didnt i think of that!

[severe cosmos]

So it is like a game everyone griefs??

[bleak thorn]

gg, 100%

[nocturne grail]

Cross stitch is lowkey good but why does it only do like 2 nail swings worth of damages lmaoooo

[tight ember]

Sadly couldn't pull the clip
Literally the worst part of this festival is the dodge

[cedar trench]

use voltfilament

[tight viper]

Steel Soul Pouch is too low

[untold dune]

its more that everyone has different opinions and its impossible to please everyone

[sonic wagon]

Both sawtooth circlet and magma bell are really only useful for one major boss, (gms for the former and last judge for the latter) so id say magma bell belongs in B

[coral quartz]

GG! Now beat the final boss again fort eh achievement lol

[restive rivet]

People can't seriously be putting magnetite in a low tier, that shit carries

[cedar trench]

might be yeah

[drowsy hazel]

Agree, 95+ in Flea Dodge is so hard man.

[crystal ledge]

well no everyone expresses THEIR opinions and says yours is wrong because almost all opinions are different but if u js dont listen to us nothing bad will happen :D we wont stop doing it though

[brazen osprey]

again, just dont get hit (i dont care for the fractured mask)

[coral quartz]

Magma bell good for forge brothers too

[vivid belfry]

god remember when volt filament was bugged and was one of the worst tools in the game

[cedar trench]

magnetite is s because there's no good yellows

[empty salmon]

WTH happened to my 2nd Sentinel????

[full halo]

Fair

[plain dagger]

Wait- How do you get the better This thing

[brazen osprey]

or when youre about to get hit... just parry

[hoary laurel]

I made it to phase to of gms I think
doesn't seem TOO bad rn

[tight viper]

Moss berries

[crystal ledge]

give more mossberries

[tight ember]

Literally
I reached 90 like 6 to 7 times and lost
I literally don't know how the hell did i survive till 113

[vivid belfry]

7 mossberries

[untold dune]

magma bell ends up being useful in like 10 different areas/bosses lowkey

[restive rivet]

4 more mossberries

[drowsy hazel]

Give the Moss Druid all 7 Mossberry.

[plain dagger]

Darn, I thought that was just for money!

[coral quartz]

Oh yah the entirety of wisp thicket too

[crystal ledge]

it is but if u give 4 more he'll give u the upgraded charm

[vivid belfry]

imo its biggest use case is hard countering Last Judge, who's the hardest boss you can fight before getting 7 masks

[full halo]

I’m missing 1 mossberry gg go next

[tight viper]

Also feel like Scuttle could be considered for the complicated tier due to how much bullshit it can pull off

[empty salmon]

AND WHERE R U FLOATING TO?????

[sonic wagon]

oh right i forgot wisp thicket existed

[coral quartz]

Magma Bell deserves A I love how team cherry kept a seemingly area specific item relevant throughout the whole game

[plain dagger]

Yeah alright

[lusty wharf]

How to get shell shards fast?

[cedar trench]

i'm not a scuttlebrace scholar

[brazen osprey]

magma bell goated for father flame

[lusty wharf]

Im in act 2

[sonic wagon]

what tech does it have? i dont know of any

[tight viper]

Buy shard bundles

[drowsy hazel]

Farm rosaries and buy shard bundles.

[lusty wharf]

Tysm

[vivid belfry]

I caved and used wanderer for steel soul and my god does that thing trivialize father lmao