sk-discussion

[flat remnant]

being pale king's child would be cool in the slim slim chance that i can climb the abyss until dad tries to put a god inside me

[woven perch]

easily hallownest

[flat remnant]

speedrun%

[tight palm]

[gilded sigil]

I play on this

[slim thorn]

literally the thing i just needed

[carmine yoke]

Hallownest isn't run on slavery sooo
Pretty easy choice

[flat remnant]

NO DAD YOU ARE NOT SUBJECTING ME TO AN ETERNITY OF MISERY

[bold breach]

I did the same mostly, forced myself to try other options on my second playthrough

[buoyant spindle]

one of my friends plays rainbow six on one of those

[vague plaza]

imo tool binding is more manageable than charm binding

[tight palm]

time to seal another inside the black egg

[turbid pasture]

what is that…? never got it

[carmine yoke]

Oooh a hitbox

[flat remnant]

FUC

[steel ibex]

Erm urm can you like stop the death from counting in steel soul mode once you die

[terse stone]

Pantheon of Pharloom is already going to be hell for certain bosses

[slim thorn]

its exclusive of ||steel soul||

[turbid pasture]

ohhhhhh

[carmine yoke]

Back to Bilewater with you

[steel ibex]

Like if you turn off your console or something

[slim thorn]

may you one day venture to get it

[alpine mica]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-silksong-hollow-knight-hollowknight-hornet-gif-16406888078674121926

[turbid pasture]

no thanks, i suck at the game

[glacial kelp]

why is it flipped cuh

[woven perch]

regrows shards, can only get it after a ||steel soul exclusive boss||

[rich pagoda]

I have 640 odd hours on HK purely on KB. I use the default keybinds except that I swapped z and c.

So I use my arrow keys. I'm comfy with a to heal and f for spells since I was already used to not using the focus button for spell inputs.

[slim thorn]

why it gives such an odd number

[carmine yoke]

Looks like she's sniffing it

[brittle elbow]

no, q - left, e - right

[stray kayak]

Groal is the bane of my existence

[steel ibex]

Help

[slim thorn]

skill in the gamble

[turbid pasture]

you and everyone else

[woven perch]

nah its joever

[glacial kelp]

no i get that but it's flipped from wasd visually

[full halo]

Lost lace is crazy I already got 100% no one would know if I don’t beat her and drop the game

[tawny palm]

what do these symbols mean?
i saw bell, hornet, and this

[carmine yoke]

I like Groal ngl

[brittle elbow]

oh
wqse

[tight palm]

Pantheon of pharloom is going to have players tweaking out when they realize they have to fight savage beast fly twice and have to fight GtG again

[fossil trench]

You can do that?

[glacial kelp]

since you're dead you're dead bro wdym

[tawny palm]

unironically fun boss

[carmine yoke]

Endings you got

[woven perch]

i think its the last ending u did?

[stray kayak]

Wtf do you mean I have to do a tedious runback filled with bullshit enemies followed by annoying gauntlet before fighting the already bullshit boss?!?@

[bold breach]

I think that symbol shows up if you get the parasite ending?

[silver nacelle]

Nah, you actually can. It's just a number in the save file that you can easily modify.

[rich pagoda]

I just copied my HK keybinds in Silksong lmao

[glacial kelp]

if you do it after trail's end

[steel ibex]

I can’t believe one of the rats in greymoor killed in

[gilded sigil]

hitbox ASMR

[torn canopy]

After beating lost sinner, lace in the cradle and almost finishing the game, I lost my steel soul run to a spider in whisp thicket :D. Fuck this mode.

[woven perch]

hacks

[terse stone]

Idk Groal the great’s main complaints were the run back, not the boss themselves

[carmine yoke]

Who's GtG again?

[turbid pasture]

so like i didn’t gamble cause when i first saw the dice guy i was broke, and when i went back he was dead

[silver nacelle]

Hey, I'm just saying. It can be done.

[carmine yoke]

Ohhh, I've never seen Groal abbreviated

[vague plaza]

tfw no sisters of the void achievement

[tight palm]

I hope pantheon of pharloom includes the entirety of sinners road just to mess with us

[bold breach]

I don't think Beastfly will be in there twice, it'll probably be an attuned/ascended thing like Soul Warrior

[vague plaza]

yes

[flat remnant]

i know 👁️

[tight palm]

And bilewater

[woven perch]

groal was and will forever be the only boss i cheese

[torn canopy]

Steel soul really ruined the game for me dude, I should've just save scummed and enjoyed the experience. I don't think I'll be able to play the game for a long time now.

[glacial kelp]

you don't get the 100% achivement either

[turbid pasture]

the mist

[tawny palm]

now its time to get this fuxkass bitch parasite outta my ass asap
i miss having tools and skills

and most importantly HEAL

[carmine yoke]

Ending's worth it, also it's just a peak fight

[grave rune]

with the red ant guy that throws a little shuriken at you in an arc

[woven perch]

take ur time and come back when ur ready

[carmine yoke]

again, good area

[short dew]

lets gooooo

[analog tulip]

i cant even fathom the thought of me doing steel soul

[tight palm]

they included refights (dream bosses)

[echo temple]

do i have to do the gauntlets for khan everytime ?

[glacial kelp]

@grok is this real

[bold breach]

Those changed a lot more than Beastfly, plus they had different names

[tawny palm]

uhhhh
if grandma is here, who tf is in the cocoon-

[snow crest]

100% grass next

[flat remnant]

no you get to skip most of them later

[short dew]

for my next trick i will dodge the showers attack pattern

[vague plaza]

pantheon of pharloom will have sethwhere you have to beat his flea minigame records exceept even higher bc he's absolute seth

[woven perch]

me using steam achievement unlocker instead of playing steel soul

[carmine yoke]

They add one more gauntlet every time you die

[full halo]

Is lost lace considered the hardest boss?

[mental blade]

booo

[flat remnant]

absethlute

[woven perch]

im trolling

[echo temple]

tf

[silver nacelle]

If you finish the second to final gauntlet, you can unlock a skip.

[short dew]

wait is that actually a thing

[flat remnant]

no that goes to karmelita

[carmine yoke]

I'd say she's the hardest

[bold breach]

I think so, the only competition is probably Karmelita

[woven perch]

it is

[light swan]

this is the closest ive seen to my setup but still lowkey kinda weird lol

[peak vapor]

…imagine if some crazy modded made ||Seth’s score|| based on how well you did after completing the ||flea festival wish.||

[glacial kelp]

LL and karm are hard but they're learnable

[tight palm]

they were just harder faster versions of the original boss but with a name change..

[short dew]

whats the point then🥀

[meager nexus]

Thats her homophobic side breaking free, her og body is still in there

[vague plaza]

on my steel soul run i 2 tried karmelita but still took like 4 attempts to beat lost lace

[carmine yoke]

Skarrsinger Karmelita is not even close to Lost Lace's level, you're all crazy

[woven perch]

there is no point 🥀

[rich pagoda]

I had fun getting all HK achievements. I'll certainly be working on Silksong over time.

[glacial kelp]

spoken like someone who isn't a homophobe smh

[bold breach]

That name change is something Beastfly doesn;t get, and it doesn't change outside of arena and summons

[gloomy pewter]

One boss left to finish the game completely

[lilac sinew]

sands of karak should’ve been cut

[light swan]

i struggled the most against karmelita but even i ccan vouch for this

[vague plaza]

i would easily say 3rd hardest boss is ||shakra||

[carmine yoke]

It's my dog

[lilac sinew]

like wtf is this garbage run back to a boss I have already fought..

[flint cave]

Do the Old Heart bosses kill you permanently on Steel Soul? My first thought is that they don't since they're technically in a dream

[gloomy pewter]

And I don't wanna finish it

[turbid pasture]

gn chat!!!!

[meager nexus]

I rated her higher tho

[tawny palm]

28 fleas with the combined intelligence of half a pharlid

[frail obsidian]

I took longer to beat karm than LL. Some of that may have been gauntlet, but they felt similar

[woven perch]

im noobing so hard against karmelita

[bold breach]

Anything that doesn't leave a cocoon doesn't kill you

[light swan]

same but LL still harder lol

[tight palm]

Screw it, all of high halls will be in pantheon of pharloom

[vague plaza]

legit ||shakra|| is a true HK boss bc she's not letting you heal

[flat remnant]

i'll i'm saying is at least lace doesn't have the fuck you lands on you with my spiky dress and sends out a double damge barrage of spikes attack

[mental blade]

nyleth over first sinner is all i needed to hear

[tawny palm]

im going wisp thicket its on of the only 3 areas i never visited (the rest being act 3 only)

[carmine yoke]

Never cook again, also two of those are regular enemies

[lilac sinew]

Shakra is not part of 100% I hope…

[grave rune]

cant wait for pantheon of pharloom to have 2 sections
the glorious fuckin fights pantheon
-Lost Lace
-First Sinner
-Cogwork Dancers
-Last Judge
-GMS

and then the go fuck yourself pantheon
-Savage beastfly
-Groal the Great
-Disgraced Chef
-Savage beastfly 2
-That one Citadel gauntlet
-The Unraveled
-Absolute Beastfly

[woven perch]

facts

[turbid pasture]

i never broke it

[bitter blade]

Pale stag feels pointless

[tawny palm]

u need to do her quest to access act 3

[carmine yoke]

Crush Flick too

[woven perch]

i cant wait to never touch godhome in this game

[alpine trellis]

pale stag is actually so so useful for no reason

[bitter blade]

I’m here to bag green prince why I am I going for some random deer he killed

[terse stone]

then they add the cursed modifier for the insane people

[lilac sinew]

slog

[bold breach]

There should be a pantheon that's just arenas, maybe they could call it something like the Colosseum. That would be a unique idea for this game.

[carmine yoke]

Why would the High Halls arena be in a pantheon 😭

[heady cove]

lore

[lilac sinew]

hk endgame was so much better than this game imo. no hate

[grave rune]

pros:
fight first sinner again with a cool potential for 3rd phase

cons:savage beastfly

[tight palm]

Colosseum of intelligence

[mortal obsidian]

You know I will never do that

[gaunt saddle]

disgraced chef just gave me whiplash to that one yomi hustle mod

[vague plaza]

you think for some bosses they get easier

[buoyant urchin]

Huh
I wonder why I am so slow
hasn't played hollow knight even tho he has it

[turbid pasture]

deer he killed?

[mortal obsidian]

…

[grave rune]

just as a fuck you from the devs, and this time theres 3 mace guys at the end

[vague plaza]

bc when lost lace tendrils/does the spiky goo attack it's free damage

[woven perch]

i feel like hk just has more to do endgame wise rn

[carmine yoke]

High Halls arena is fun anyway ngl

[meager nexus]

Nyleth is peakk yall sleeping on them

[lilac sinew]

this game’s endgame is just a fetch quest & a mess, lots of repeat bosses & enemies

[gaunt saddle]

yomi hustle is a fighting game with a fanmade mod featuring legally distinct sukuna "disgraced chef"

[turbid pasture]

driving in my car?

[coarse leaf]

WHO THE HECK MY NEIGHBORHOOD PLAYING SILKSONG AT 3 AM?!?!

SHAW!

[mental blade]

i like nyleth but they have like 3 attacks bro

[grave rune]

True, I felt so fuckin satisfied when I beat that shit (never wanna do that again though)

[lilac sinew]

ye 100%, feels like by the end of silksong tc ran out of those ideas they said they had lmao

[carmine yoke]

Nyleth is a cool concept and I like Silksong's areal combat, unfortunately she's too much of a pushover

[bold breach]

I mean, if you compare base game Hollow Knight to Silksong it's a different story. Once any and all DLC is out it'll be fairer to compare them against each other.

[buoyant urchin]

Don't you in hk kinda do the same thing by fetching the 3 dreamers
But instead of them standing there you actually fight who you need-?

[mental blade]

bro the entire green prince quest felt like a dlc lmao

[distant halo]

WHY IS THERE AN OPTION TO BREAK IT 😭

[carmine yoke]

First tried it in my speedrun and I have never felt such pride from a video game

[gaunt saddle]

can you send me the full image of your pfp btw

[grave rune]

Nyleth doesnt even really have 2 phases, her first phase is done so quick

[tight palm]

High halls except theres no clawline rings and everything that had a clawline ring is now replaced with a minister backed up by 2 claw maidens

[turbid pasture]

is nyleth a heart boss?

[gaunt saddle]

@mystic kernel

[short dew]

what if that one area hornet wont go to in blasted steps is later revealed to be the land of storms from hollow knight as a dlc

[woven perch]

im stuck at karmelita so idk how much i got left but hk had the grim troupe, the dreams and godhome post launch. im sure we'll get the same treatment

[flat remnant]

lot of repeat bosses and the only non-animalistic repeat boss is trobbio

[carmine yoke]

because Flick the Fixer deserves nothing but the worst

[mental blade]

bro missed out on an entire side quest

[mighty whale]

It’s late game, mate.

[flat remnant]

what did he do to you

[gaunt saddle]

a3 stuff

[lilac sinew]

That’s better than like 60 fleas without a map showing you where they all are

[buoyant urchin]

Yea and her hitbox is annoying abit I sometimes try pogoing and just
Her hitbox hasn't appeared yet after the dash

[carmine yoke]

he's a bitch

[flat remnant]

HOW

[gaunt saddle]

steal shell shards

[silver nacelle]

It can probably be done. You can get double jump without clawline and use that with sharp dart.

[bold breach]

It's a real FromSoft quest moment, you walk around, talk to an NPC in random places until they go to a place where something finally happens

[flat remnant]

he asks for sheel shards to help rebuild things for the camp he lives in

[vague plaza]

if this was true spending 500 rosaries for a 4th key would be a scam

[mighty whale]

Worst run back ever…

[stiff briar]

make an AI generated video for all the boomers to panic about on Facebook

[carmine yoke]

He sucks ass at his job and took so many shell shards to build a massive statue of himself 😭

[bitter blade]

Every boss should comeback atleast 4 times

[terse stone]

I love sheel shards

[turbid pasture]

running to a whole ass city…

[lilac sinew]

Then act 3 randomly unlocks after doing something.. like wut

[silver nacelle]

I just remembered you need clawline to even be able to get close to the area.

Naw, impossible.

[lilac sinew]

pretty arbitrary

[turbid pasture]

i accidentally broke his statue when i didn’t even need shards

[vague plaza]

this has to be ragebait right

[stiff briar]

facebook boomers think any AI generated video is real

[tight palm]

okay fine, high halls except you only have cling grip and thats it, no swift step

[flat remnant]

and when hornet doesn't want to break her little statuete that's just grand??

[lilac sinew]

no I just said the endgame is weak & hk’s was more enjoyable, at least for me.

[buoyant urchin]

Wha-
You can get all fleas before act 3 tho-
And atleast the dreamer bosses are difficult and unique even tho I HATE nyelth she is an interesting boss

[snow crest]

its a tuff statue

[vague plaza]

"act 3 randomly unlocks when you do something" that's not a criticism at all

in HK you get the true ending randomly when you do something

[bold breach]

I wish we had a White Palace equivalent, Cogwork Core is just too short

[lilac sinew]

nyleth was sick but the bullshit in that boss was next level lol, still fun tho

[carmine yoke]

Hollow Knight's true ending is waaaaay more vague than Silksong Act 3

[flat remnant]

have you done the mr mushroom quest

[grave rune]

I feel like with how much more mobility there is in silksong I would absolutely love a pantheon of pharloom specifically for non boss enemies gauntlet style, imagine a fuckin 70 wave fuckin marathon fighting for your life against the entirety of pharloom shit would feel like this: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/schDqWD5ytqBD-BwhB7yq4OcJTm_i_Hg_ZiBpplSlGs/https/media.tenor.com/NjpBA1C_8G8AAAPo/neo-vs-smith-neo.mp4

[gaunt saddle]

reaction image

[tight palm]

Imagine a mix of cogwork core and high halls

[brittle elbow]

what was it again, it's the same flower, no? that hornet pulled out of her memory

[buoyant urchin]

I would mushroom

[brittle elbow]

delicate flower or smth

[flat remnant]

unrelated i love how the final boss of silksong is way way more personal than the radiance even if hornet is just being practical to save pharloom

[vague plaza]

never ending rising lava minigame

[buoyant urchin]

Stealing this

[vague plaza]

bell eater is the most personal fight

[foggy tapir]

what order should i do the old hearts quest

[meager nexus]

My valid hot takes being hated on 💔

[gaunt saddle]

there isn't mushroom for interpretation on ss true ending

[grave rune]

*with flea mode to have fleas trying to knock you down as you go up

[bold breach]

That was also too short. To be fair, the amount of general platforming around the game was massively increased, but I would have liked a whole area for platforming, but maybe that's just Mt. Fay and I should shut up.

[carmine yoke]

Hornet is 100% worried for Lace as well

[tight palm]

the eternal ordeal but inside of silksong

[meager nexus]

All attacks peak

[stiff briar]

best moment of the game in that fight

[foggy tapir]

ahem you mean disgraced GYYYYYYAAATTT chef?

[carmine yoke]

I'll be a hater as long as I live ❤️‍🩹

[meager nexus]

Omg groal in da city ily!

[mental blade]

primal aspid+
big explosion
change walls

[meager nexus]

Also spiky balls

[lilac sinew]

way too short I was like “this is it?”, at the end.. & each citadel area should’ve had its own full boss fight

[foggy tapir]

what if we make the savage beastfly..cool..in the pantheon?

[eternal bone]

why is flea dodge so much harder than the other 2

[mental blade]

that's barely an attack lmao i count that as a hazzard

[foggy tapir]

the colosseum of fools:

[meager nexus]

I love nyleth ♥️

[gaunt saddle]

tbh i didn't really feel emotional because i'm media illiterate and didn't understand what her character was supposed to be

[foggy tapir]

what a CAKE for a flower lol

[buoyant urchin]

They are kinda siblings

[tight palm]

What if we turn the savage beast fly arena into the radiant markoth arena

[bold breach]

I'm fine with not all of them having bosses, they each test your skills in slightly different ways

[terse stone]

at least you’re honest about it?

[gaunt saddle]

t h a t i s t h e j o k e

[deep cliff]

amazing idea!!!

[foggy tapir]

o h s h i t m b

[gaunt saddle]

no but seriously what was her story

[tight palm]

and THEN fight savage beastfly

[stiff briar]

use shaman, don't jump, only shoot up, always track the lowest flea and move asap under it

[grave rune]

okay but theres a difference between having another colloseum of fools in silksong and having a marathon gauntlet against every single mf non boss enemy in pharloom

[eternal bone]

idh shaman

[flint cave]

I really want to beat lost lace tonight but it's already 11:35 and I don't wanna swallow my pride

[snow crest]

nah turn it into the pantheon gruz mother arena

[lilac sinew]

I played hk for the bosses which is its strong point, platforming challenges are great but every game has that to some extent

[grave rune]

TEAM CHERRY, RELEASE A 80 WAVE PHARLOOM GAUNTLET AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[carmine yoke]

I felt so emotional over it, I payed more attention to Silksong and its writing than I have payed to anything before and it is so worth it

[buoyant urchin]

Shhhh I go with mushroom man
My beloved who made me go insane in path of pain to finally notice me

[lilac sinew]

tc bosses are a one of a kind thing, wish there were more in the endgame is all..

[foggy tapir]

guys what order should i do the old hearts quest in? i do not want to beat that one ant gauntlet

[gaunt saddle]

yeah i'm a little stupid so i usually play the games then watch lore video

[eternal bone]

the diagonal fleas keep fucvking me over

[terse stone]

Underworks is such good environmental storytelling

[vague plaza]

u know if HK didn't have dlc you'd be saying the same thing

[stiff briar]

coral tower is a psyop, easier than you think

[gaunt saddle]

anyways please explain lace

[grave rune]

give it time, DLCS will release

[tight palm]

absolute radiance arena but remove the floor and add a tiny platform the length of the knight from hollow knight horizontally (excluding the horns)

[foggy tapir]

that one confession booth too

[vague plaza]

imagine HK endgame without DLC (radiant bosses/pantheons/pure vessel/SoB/NKG)

[gaunt saddle]

it was more like "oh shit a third lace fight"

[buoyant urchin]

There are still dlcs to come
Maybe coral comeback or anything we don't know what team cherry will have to offer

[flat remnant]

i watched the silksong ending with a friend who didn't know anything about hollow knight and when hornet picked up lace they said "that's so caring awww" and it just elevated the experience for me, i didn't cry but the cameo did get me emotional

[meager nexus]

Groal senpai you can come crash at my couch

[carmine yoke]

I would be so excited to but it is 4:30am right now and I cannot

[bold breach]

Fair, at least there are plenty of optional bosses. I'm glad the barebones any% route has so little on it, adding more endgame bosses to it would suck.

[gaunt saddle]

why did hornet even try to save lace that fucker didn't do anything but try to kill me the whole game

[meager nexus]

I can draw it for you

[lilac sinew]

yeah true, is dlc confirmed to happen or is it just automatically assumed

[foggy tapir]

but i dont wanna go through FOUR FUCKING GAUNTLETS OF CRUST MINIONS. because i beat seth today

[flat remnant]

remind me on like saturday or something i gotcha

[snow crest]

then you can just dodge in the air

[tranquil wigeon]

The more I started learning about the characters that GMS affected, the more I wanted to absolutly bind into her

[carmine yoke]

I cried

[stiff briar]

you don't, there is a shortcut after first 3

[buoyant urchin]

Your kinda sis and the daughter of grand mother silk

[bold breach]

It's been kinda implied? It's very vague.

[junior maple]

does anyone else feel like silksong isnt that hard if you explore like i feel like all the difficulty complaints would go away if tc just put an npc next to savage beastfly telling the player that they need to explore like quirrel and mantis lords

[foggy tapir]

oh boy youve sparked the shippers

[flat remnant]

unfortunately binding into her only makes things worse

[grave rune]

they have mentioned something along the lines of "we're so glad its releasing and were excited to keep working on it past release"

[gaunt saddle]

why'd she try to kill me like a dozen times and then why'd i have to save her

[foggy tapir]

is it at the start?

[gaunt saddle]

nah i'd win

[carmine yoke]

Hornet and Lace are not actually related but they have a sibling-like relationship

[stiff briar]

one of those falling icicles you'll know it when u see it

[lilac sinew]

here’s to another 8 years ⏰

[foggy tapir]

how the fuck is lace the "kinda" sis to hornet.

[flat remnant]

i get what you mean but it's not like beast guards entry into a tough area it's just a mid ability

[flat remnant]

honorary cousins

[meager nexus]

The design is so beautiful, i found it breathtaking which is weird because most people seem to hate it lol

[twin prism]

can we play as thk please

[torn canopy]

do you guys think silksong will be GOTY?

[vague plaza]

bc "thk/knight was sacrificed for their divine purpose i will lose the moral battle if the same thing happens to lace"

[junior maple]

yeah but new players dont know that and they just bash their head into a wall and then complain

[carmine yoke]

I hope so

[foggy tapir]

and them pollen tendrils under dat mask-

[buoyant urchin]

You kill her bec she sucks and hates you
And you save her bec her mother doesn't want her to die which leads to chaos in pharloom

[toxic horizon]

Its a coin toss between E33, Skong, and Hades 2

[lilac sinew]

some ppl will take that as bug fixes but real ones know what they rly mean is dlc

[buoyant urchin]

Both made from the same silk

[heady cove]

Nyleth is so pretty even with the nightmare head

[tight palm]

FINE THEN, ABSRAD ARENA BUT THERES NO PLATFORMS AND THE SAVAGE BEASTFLY CARRIES A KILIK ON ITS BACK THAT INSTANTLY RELEASES ITS SPIKES OUTWARDS WITH NO COOLDOWN SO YOU CAN'T JUST POGO OFF OF THE SAVAGE BEASTFLY

[gaunt saddle]

is that the only reason 😭😭😭😭

[flat remnant]

the reasoning is ||gms uplifted the weavers to sentience, hornet is a child of the weavers, lace is a direct child of gms so there's some tangential relation||

[bold breach]

E33 is probably going to win

[buoyant urchin]

A fast one

[stiff briar]

europe will politic for E33, even the french president talked about it

[vague plaza]

just make radiant version of every boss the floor is spikes you have to pogo on

[carmine yoke]

? No??
Hornet isn't a child of GMS

[tall gulch]

Unfortunately I doubt it because I do think it has legitimate problems and apparently e33 was really good, plus it was an original game compared to a sequel which generally don't win as many awards

[buoyant urchin]

Yea sorry It's like 6am here

[grave rune]

Well there are kickstarter backer created stuff that still needs to be released, im pretty sure theres a trio of metal assassins that are meant to be added as kickstarter backer content

[gaunt saddle]

hornet is the daughter of GMS's elevated spiders
lace is one of GMS's silk creations
so she's kind of... our non blood related aunt?

[snow crest]

nah, the gruz mother arena is peak

[buoyant urchin]

Yea yea sorry from herrah fack-

[lilac sinew]

is there an easier runback for the sands of karak boss somewhere?

[buoyant urchin]

Yea I think

[light swan]

hornet is grandchild of GMS
lace is child of GMS
simple enough for me

[junior maple]

why did we have to super jump out of the void if the knight was just there anyways like we just superjumped into more void

[foggy tapir]

..do we even consider herra here?

[gaunt saddle]

break the stalagtite on the ceiling to break the bridge

[torn canopy]

it's definitely a very flawed game, a masterpiece still, but very far from perfect

[toxic horizon]

Break the drill thing above the tall room

[snow crest]

did you break the spike from the ceiling?

[light swan]

there are few things that are actually close to perfect tbf

[foggy tapir]

yes.

[tight palm]

https://tenor.com/view/judge-sentencing-meme-bilewater-silksong-gif-6507327091380503587

[vague plaza]

hornet: descendant of hyperevolved experiments of GMS
lace: a hyperevolved experiment of GMS

[gaunt saddle]

"if not for the spikes i would think it an appealing bug"

[twin prism]

hornet was literally in greenpath when we first saw her lol

[light swan]

indeed

[brittle elbow]

and they made the game too hard, casuals ain't voting for it

[lilac sinew]

the shortcut to and from blasting steps? Yeah I got those

[grave rune]

people will def be soured on its initial release, silksong is incredible but you could tell it was not playtested throughly

[gaunt saddle]

anyways did hornet actually like lace or something because hunter's journal notes say "this one the dark shall not take" or something like that

[true python]

She said so that she'd adore the fluffy creatures if they weren't so spiky.

[light swan]

why wasnt it playtested thoroughly?

[foggy tapir]

DOESNT THIS MAKE THE SHIP...
SHIPPING SIBLINGS??????????????/

[gaunt saddle]

doesn't seem like we're saving the fucker out of necessity

[toxic horizon]

Theres another on the very top of the tall room

[buoyant urchin]

Anyways grand mother silk doesn't wanna let lace die trying to protect her from the void which leads to the black silk around infecting everything idk why it's infecting everything tho but maybe bec she is trying to get anyone to help or some shit

[light swan]

do people actually ship them 😔

[grave rune]

only 2 people were relegated to QA and playtesting im pretty sure

[foggy tapir]

YES.

AND SHAKRA.

[buoyant urchin]

Yea for some odd reason

[brittle elbow]

meh shakra's a third wheel

[grave rune]

(not to mention act 3 being a fuckin headache to discover naturally)

[heady cove]

There were eight playtesters

[gaunt saddle]

yeah and honestly they're really nowhere near close to being actual siblings so yeah i think it's fine

[light swan]

would average players know this lol

[carmine yoke]

GMS isn't in control of the void, it's travelling up her silk to consume Pharloom

[light swan]

shakra is fine they arent siblings i think

[grave rune]

oh fuck nvm then I dont know where I got 2 from

[torn canopy]

It really has some serious balance problems regarding difficulty

[flat remnant]

between donkey kong and silksong there are TWO Game of the Year contenders where you get to run around naked

[buoyant urchin]

Tbh getting stuff isn't bad tho
Craw bell my beloved with the 400 roasaries

[terse stone]

the Pale kings subjects are not his children just because he granted them higher thought, so why would it be the case for the weavers?

[twin prism]

dang is the void expanding from hollownest after the dream no more ending

[toxic horizon]

They have genuinely no relationship whatsoever, they arent related as weavers arent GMS’s kin, nor were they raised together

[junior maple]

i bet you cant get naked in expedition 33!!!

[tranquil wigeon]

Donkey Kong is wearing a tie

[toxic horizon]

Shakra x hornet wipes though

[gaunt saddle]

yeah but it's

• pay 80$ and buy a switch 2 to be naked
  vs
• pay 20$ to be naked

[coral quartz]

no pharloom has its own abyss

[buoyant urchin]

Ohhhh I was kept wondering why the fuck is the silk either way controlling shit

[flat remnant]

naked with socks is still naked

[foggy tapir]

i swear the only reason why shakra is shipped with hornet is because that one marker and the fact that you fight with her

[lilac sinew]

Cue the: 10 wave citadel gauntlet

[terse stone]

Shawkra

[light swan]

i dont see the problems involving balance, theres nothing thats super unfair its difficult not unbalanced

[twin prism]

oooo oke

[stiff briar]

or just run around naked for free in the park

[flat remnant]

goty doesn't care about price i fear

[vague plaza]

baldurs gate 3 won bc u can have sex therefore

[toxic horizon]

Its seemingly a constant across the world, you get deep enough and its just there

[lilac sinew]

a casual’s reaction to that citadel gauntlet is something I’d pay to see

[light swan]

theres nowhere thats actually unbalanced in my opinion except for the high halls arena

[foggy tapir]

the abyss is the bottom of the WORLD as a whole im pretty sure

[brittle elbow]

lol the way silskong is influencing my keybinds for other games

[gaunt saddle]

their only connection is gms "making" them

[flat remnant]

secret input no doubt

[foggy tapir]

giving them their iq

[gaunt saddle]

the abyss is like the center of the earth

[light swan]

bedrock layer

[coral quartz]

yeah im of the theory and belief that the abyss is like a layer of the earth

[buoyant urchin]

I want garmond retrun

[gaunt saddle]

hornet says no matter where she goes if she goes deep enough it'll always be there

[lapis minnow]

Daily reminder that wanderer's crest is the best btw

[toxic horizon]

Let hornet adopt zaza please

[carmine yoke]

The void was never specific to Hallownest, I'm pretty sure it's everywhere if you go deep enough

[grave rune]

Silksong act 3 was spoiled and soured for me and would not start despite completing pretty much everything in act 2 all because for whatever reason the Bellhart Donation wishes would not appear and the only thing that fixed it was upgrading my needle 🙁

[toxic slate]

GANG WHAT HAPPENED TO THE STEEL ASSASSINS, WHY DID THEY GET SCRAPPED

[brittle elbow]

he's alive

[flat remnant]

i think hornet x lace (horace) is still a bit iffy, not enough to go up to people and say the ship is problematic but enough to make me just not like the ship

[foggy tapir]

YOU SMELL LIKE SHIT TAKE A SHOWER

[gaunt saddle]

daily reminder that the insaen asylum is still looking for you

[brittle elbow]

hornet can beat the void out of people

[fair wraith]

to the right of the coral tower (go inside and just jump over the spikes)

[buoyant urchin]

I hate how Zaza stays beside garmond looking sad
I feel bad for garmond

[coral quartz]

idk about it being the center, who knows if theres something deeper than the abyss. but i do agree that its a layer of the earth

[amber yoke]

Just beat Fourth Chorus. Goated boss fight

[torn canopy]

Double damage is WAY too overused, in my opinion. It becomes extremely frustrating when you're doing a steel soul run and normal enemies and arenas are infinitely more dangerous than bosses.

[foggy tapir]

hornet is void

[heady cove]

shame it's so goddamn boring

[flat remnant]

every time someone asked silksong when they removed an asset from the game

[grave rune]

Dont think they're scrapped, pretty sure they're going to still release, just wasnt in time for initial release

[toxic horizon]

Shaman and architect just objectively do more damage

[terse stone]

I don’t really understand how it’s iffy

[gaunt saddle]

we are talking about endgame spoilers so i would suggest leaving

[flat remnant]

real n true

[twin prism]

yeah I think I get it, when the pale king reached out to the void they went like just very deep it wasn't just tied to hollownest

[tall gulch]

Void is oil because it's the fossilized remains of bugs' regrets

[stiff briar]

one of the best silkposts recently was someone saying you could save garmond if you killed all void masses in the first 30 minutes of act 3

[foggy tapir]

i thought i would take contact damage from the hands so i didnt use the air geysers

[coral quartz]

thread storm em to death. learn the locations of enemy arenas and bring thread storm into them. it shreds most basic enemies. even better if you try to get volt filament as soon as possible

[gaunt saddle]

this makes sense if you've never played the game before

[torn canopy]

I was really looking forward to them :(

[toxic slate]

oh theyre gonna be dlc? aw man

[fair wraith]

i feel like that and sherma are more feasable but even then theyre more like sister and brother than romantic partner

[foggy tapir]

well no but actually yes

[toxic horizon]

Gang what

[flat remnant]

it's ambiguous how much of a child lace really is, they have a tenuous familial connection, again it's not enough to publicly denounce it but i just don't see it

[tight palm]

yeah but silksong let's you play as a bug, I bet DK bananza can't do that

[buoyant urchin]

That would be cool but I just kill the black silk puddles when they are on my way and annoying me

[grave rune]

That was confirmed true got the hidden achivement myself lmao

[gaunt saddle]

high investment burst damage

[pure oracle]

why dont people call hornet x lace horce

[heady cove]

dlc

[carmine yoke]

Yeah, my son

[flat remnant]

donkey kong can turn into a snake close enough

[foggy tapir]

i hate you people.

[fair wraith]

yeah that too

[toxic horizon]

Sherma is a child, he is absolutely not a love interest

[buoyant urchin]

Also if you did beat the clover dancers
Who would you skip out of the 3 bosses

[vague plaza]

horace is foul

[lilac sinew]

How did tc think that was a good idea lmao

[tight palm]

Snakes aren't even close to bugs 😭

[coral quartz]

they're backer characters so they will most certainly make an apperance later down the line

[buoyant urchin]

I thought sherma was a woman

[flat remnant]

bro lets shipping culture affect his life 🥀

[gaunt saddle]

otherwise shaman and archi kinda suck ass because shaman bind is ass and archi craft takes a bind and shards

[brittle elbow]

wait.
imagine if pollip pouch and volt thingy were changed to void

[light swan]

but does that make it unbalanced or difficult? bosses still deal double damage and so i dont see why that makes normal enemies scarier than bosses (and i lowkey think this isnt even that bad enough to warrant calling it unablanced lol)

[grave rune]

its fake news apparently there was 8 playtesters disregard my comment

[fair wraith]

people talking bout hornet ships when she aint even looking for one/want one

[heady cove]

because there were eight playtesters lmao

[toxic horizon]

Im so mad I kept nyleth’s heart, wish we could choose what one we keep

[coral quartz]

nyleth bc she's kinda boring imo. although i'd probably still fight Seth

[carmine yoke]

I think I have to restate it
Second Sentinel is my child
Twelfth Architect is my daughter
Bell Beast is my daughter
Sherma is my son
Phantom is my daughter

[torn canopy]

Yeah I managed to overcome arenas pretty easily and beat almost all act 2 bosses. I got then killed by a spider in whisp thicket.

[terse stone]

I don’t think the family connection really matters because

1. They aren’t genetically related at all

2. they didn’t grow up together, nor do they have a sibling bond currently

but fair enough

[gaunt saddle]

great conchflies entry would suggest otherwise but meh

[grave rune]

( but balance and wish unlock methods were fuckin clunky)

[open dirge]

silksong horse mod where every enemy is just a stock image of a horse

[toxic slate]

mhm i hope so

[tight palm]

Seth is the best

[wheat sage]

beat the game. it was hell but at least im done!!
oh wait i have to 100% it

[flat remnant]

no love for pilby 💔

[foggy tapir]

holy shit how many times are people going to misgender the goober

[light swan]

second sentinel is my god how do you feel

[toxic horizon]

She has talked about how she has had relationships, however her mates couldn’t live as long as her

[carmine yoke]

Who's that?

[flat remnant]

fire, did you draw this

[foggy tapir]

we talk about lace cake but what about nyleth cake

[fair wraith]

no i know shes HAD them but im pretty sure she doesnt WANT them (after realizing getting attached like a significant other will never end well)
i have no evidence for this tho
just my headcannon cause i dont want anybody making ss a shipping situation

[gilded sigil]

I thought Shakra was a dude

[gaunt saddle]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[buoyant urchin]

Yea he fun

[carmine yoke]

My child is so popular ❤️

[vague plaza]

top 3 singing voices in silksong

1. karmelita
2. phantom
3. pilby

[flat remnant]

little pilgrim in bonebottom, you can save him from being trampled

[stiff briar]

is sherma's gender actually referenced in the game

[buoyant urchin]

HE SOUNDS LIKE A WOMAN 😭

[true python]

Didn't she only ever talk about her past mates and implied that she moved on from romance due to the lifespan issue?

[foggy tapir]

???

[gaunt saddle]

have you SEEN HER in game

[toxic horizon]

Yes

[coral quartz]

oh wisp thicket is deceptively dangerous. i would strongly recommend not going there until the end of act 2 with 8 masks, max thread spool, +3 nail, drill, and magma bell

[wheat sage]

you can save him…

[brittle elbow]

hear me out

[carmine yoke]

Oh really? I didn't know that, didn't even know he had a name, that's cool

[flat remnant]

yeah and team cherry themselves called him a boy

[foggy tapir]

TOO FUCKING BAD APPARENTLY SHERMAS A HE

[spring heath]

no it was drawn by https://x.com/wompie_domple?s=21

wompie wompie 🐴 (@wompie_domple) on X

-the happy person
-🥺
-child prodigy
-Harvard university

X

[true python]

Read the hunter journals and Sherman quests.

[buoyant urchin]

But but
Sad clover dancers
The gay mantis...

[gilded sigil]

she sounds like a dude

[dense oasis]

So many areas are locked behind secret walls 🙏

[fair wraith]

child

[coral quartz]

im forever calling him sherman now ty

[gaunt saddle]

yeah but lifespan issues aren't a thing with half the characters she's shipped with so they could feasibly work, talking objectively here

[grave rune]

man I just jumped over the enemies and didnt even engage with them lmao, easiest boss too

[foggy tapir]

brother

[vague plaza]

lace is legit the tamest hear me out in the HKverse

[loud idol]

I thought he was too and then I realized he’s probably just a child 😭

[terse stone]

what about Ass Jim cake…. Not that cake, get your mind out of the gutter, like a mossberry cake or something

[gaunt saddle]

someone draw groal in da city

[loud idol]

you’re alone on this one

[foggy tapir]

i need that lugoli cake to crush me

[carmine yoke]

Yes, he's referred to as "him" in the description for the quest to save him from Whiteward

[brittle elbow]

eh, shakra called hornet a child too
they just insulting people

[stiff briar]

groal in da hood

[spring heath]

wrong btw

[fair wraith]

a kid is the tamest 😭

[coral quartz]

cant believe we dont get to eat ass jim's ass but those damn flies do. life's unfair

[wheat sage]

hear me out: those mini judge guy enemies that you encounter on the runback to last judge

[toxic horizon]

GMS.

[foggy tapir]

if i was squeezed between those i wouldve accepted it happily

[fair wraith]

thats referencing a child of another kingdom

[torn canopy]

Bosses are supposed to constitute a major challenge, not a fucking spider or flame that deals double damage for no reason. Like why would a random arena be infinitely more difficult than the final boss, for instance? It really makes the fights less memorable, at least for me.

[gaunt saddle]

quick get one of the artists in the server

[open dirge]

wisp thicket is pretty silly

[bitter blade]

Bosses should do 3-4 if normal enemies do 2 lowk. Otherwise normal enemies are the same difficulty which doesn’t make sense

[grave rune]

found it weird when hornet was talking to the shaman and said "I NEED that Groalussy"

[true python]

I mask for each cheek

[terse stone]

I think I’ve made a mistake

[buoyant urchin]

Groal oh please groal can you give me the same blessing of killing you with one mask inside your stomach when I retry the game?

[fair wraith]

calls herself a child btw

[toxic horizon]

“Child wielding needle”

[gaunt saddle]

to bilewater with you

[covert gyro]

bene frenke

[heady cove]

nah, it's referencing hornet being short
but also lace is older than the citadel so

[lilac sinew]

8 still ain’t great

[dense oasis]

Wisp thicket is not hard :/

[spring heath]

you're spreading misinfo and it's proven in game that she's not a child but ok keep being ignorant

[gaunt saddle]

lace isn't older than the citadel

[toxic horizon]

As in a child of GMS, reading comprehension

[carmine yoke]

I would really like for people to stop making characters who are children who look and act old and adults who look and act like children
It always leads to discourse I swear

[snow crest]

the arena isnt random

[true python]

Bebe 'ornet

[foggy tapir]

what did the gms use to make phantom

[gilded sigil]

really? it's pretty deep voice when "she" does the warrior salute or whatever

[open dirge]

im bored go my tomatoes🍅 🍅 🍅

[brittle elbow]

we're silksong players, we don't read the lore

[gaunt saddle]

the temperment of a child = really fucking naive

[light swan]

id say a boss that deals double damage is scarier than a fly that deals double damage isnt it?

[carmine yoke]

She's so cuteeeeee

[coral quartz]

she used silk just didnt do a very good job at it i think

[torn canopy]

not only talking about that one, pretty much any arena is harder than bosses

[fair wraith]

mb i havent done proper reading up on this
i didnt mean to strike a nerve

[loud idol]

gang am I making it out of this

[light plover]

PLZ LORD tel me its over

[flat remnant]

[true python]

The silk she shat out

[toxic horizon]

Silk, she’s just been kinda abandoned by GMS

[wheat sage]

my goats baby hornet and baby bell beasts

[foggy tapir]

POSHANKA does NOT sound like a man

[fair wraith]

easy

[twin prism]

[brittle elbow]

🅱️ ornet

[light swan]

this is such a good screenshot

[flat remnant]

no zote rises from the grave and challenges hornet to a fight

[carmine yoke]

Phase 30, go

[wheat sage]

ggs, beat her an hour ago

[foggy tapir]

oke

[tawdry sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-knight-bugs-hollow-knight-bugs-fight-hollow-knight-fight-gif-4796561906590749259

[gaunt saddle]

@coarse leaf

[spring heath]

its ight but chill w shaming

[coral quartz]

phase 4 baby

[foggy tapir]

@coarse leaf

[loud idol]

It was steel soul
I actually did quit out in the nick of time 💀

[brittle elbow]

not an ounce of dodging happening

[wheat sage]

another one to go in the brutal savage beastfly deaths folder

[dense oasis]

The largest issue is all the hidden areas behind walls

[gilded sigil]

"she" also sings like a tenor

[snow crest]

which ones? i would say the majority of arenas are easier than lace 2 for example

[torn canopy]

yeah the thing is that there isn't usually one fly, but ten, and you're locked in a room with them.

[light plover]

took me an hour but i finally locked in

[gaunt saddle]

and how half of them lead FUCKING NOWHERE

[fair wraith]

i never meant to shame i just thought that she was a child and thought it was weird
was less of getting confused at the sender and more at the contents of the message

[open dirge]

second sentinel is so awesome
both as a character and as boss fight

[toxic horizon]

She’s more of an alto

[fallen gale]

guys how to get up in there

[foggy tapir]

groal you dont give a SHIT about fleas wtf you mean

[wheat sage]

same, js randomly locked in on my like 7th attempt lmao

[tawdry sierra]

no, thats me hitting the staggered boss

[grave rune]

I didnt even know about the Hunters March merchant guy until finishing act mf 3, and looking up npcs and seeing "oh shit who?" and finding him dead when I went to the area

[torn canopy]

couldn't disagree more, but I guess each person has a different experience

[tight palm]

Share it with me i wanna get there too

[loud idol]

Act 3

[carmine yoke]

They're my child, I'm very happy they get so much love from everyone

[open dirge]

act 3 area

[true python]

First sinner was my favourite in gameplay. Karmelita was hard to beat because her soundtrack was so beautiful.

[dense oasis]

Bilewater, wisp thicket, sands are all hidden 🙏

[grave rune]

dude is behind a hidden wall

[wheat sage]

second sentinel so peak

[snow crest]

fair

[light swan]

i lowkey agree with you there, that arenas are usually a lot harder than bossfights but i wouldnt say it's infinitely harder and it just requires a diffeerent approach (ie being WAY more passive and using spells and tools as much as you can), just treat them like a miniboss and youll b fine

[toxic horizon]

Its more harmonic rather than melodic, something more becoming of an alto

[opaque shadow]

Horrible boss change ideas 1. 4 moss mothers

[twin prism]

the pale king wants to go to fleatopia real

[light swan]

favorite npc, second favorite bossfight :D

[carmine yoke]

Okay literally not related at all but y'all have got to listen to Devils Never Cry if you haven't already

[gaunt saddle]

2. groal but you have to restart the game every time you die to him

[dense oasis]

Thread storm

[fallen gale]

tf is act 3 dawg i alr killed the mother god

[stiff briar]

high halls gauntlet the hardest boss until karmelita, kind of dumb really

[grave rune]

ah yes the classic "this hidden wall either leads to a wide area of gameplay, or a frayed rosary necklace"

[half echo]

Can I get a poshanka in the chat?

[open dirge]

i suck at the game to actually fight second sentinel fairly but fighting them with wanderer's crest is pretty funny i guess
I'LL GO PICK UP THE SKILL AT THE SKILL STORE LATER

[light swan]

just get to act 3 and you can get there :D trust us

[wheat sage]

3. two savage beastflies on an arena with no floor

[foggy tapir]

uh arent you busy being dead alongside your kingdom cus u played peekaboo with the hollowknight?

[crimson drift]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-shakra-poshanka-huntress-gif-9550627436799575931

[toxic horizon]

I love shaman crest

[gaunt saddle]

(they spawn void spit squits)

[wheat sage]

LMAO

[flat remnant]

that's new it used to say several people

[grave rune]

2 savage beastfly nyleth style

[toxic horizon]

Pale nails spam is very skillful

[foggy tapir]

(and do triple damage)

[carmine yoke]

Savage Groalfly

[flat remnant]

unless the boss teleports augh

[bitter blade]

Lost

[brittle elbow]

yea no it's definitely meant to shame. there was an active choice to virtue-signal there, unsurprising about anyone who'd think ANYONE is going to heaven at all

[light swan]

ik bro i beat the final boss yesterday just spamming that w volt filament & weavelight theres like barely any counter lol

[foggy tapir]

dosent help me with nyleth

[half echo]

Still says several for me

[flat remnant]

curious

[stiff briar]

its not free still got to dodge and really you can't heal

[snow crest]

i heard archi is good against it

[toxic horizon]

Just spam it more smh

[flat remnant]

hey look at that

[light swan]

yes it is just stay on your side of the wall while using it whenever you get it and you dont need to play the game

[open dirge]

unfair moss mother buff
the rocks falling now are all over the arena making you get 1 damage no matter what
the dash attack gets spammed randomly (in the middle of attacks too) and takes like 0.5 seconds to complete
summons are groals just to make it worse teehee

[foggy tapir]

tf is archi
oh

[brittle elbow]

rip it says "multiple people" on pc

[snow crest]

architect

[spring heath]

PASHANKA

[dense oasis]

I pogod off the enemies

[toxic horizon]

So just don’t get hit, if you need silk you’re already using shaman so just get silk using ranged melees

[carmine yoke]

I've seen "Multiple" myself like twice ever, it's almost always "Several"

[tawdry valley]

Use the grapple to dodge attacks as well as attack the boss

[flat remnant]

i'm getting a lot of multiples

[toxic horizon]

Act 3

[foggy tapir]

GUYS WHO HAS BIGGER CAKE NYLETH OR LUGOLI

[snow crest]

lugoli

[tawdry valley]

Nyleth, next question

[carmine yoke]

Me

[brittle elbow]

smth simpler

just put the moss mother somewhere in the bellhart area so she drops bells
that bounce

kinda like a flying bellbeast ripoff

[crimson bloom]

Lugoli

[heady cove]

Lugoli, Nyleth's is just petals

[light swan]

dodging is the bare minimum imo, and since you dont need to attack you can only focus on dodging which means you likely wont get hit

[twin prism]

are we fr bro

[heady cove]

yes, next question

[foggy tapir]

did you see when she dashes?

[toxic horizon]

Silkshot made nyleth so free, I just clinged to the wall, used silkshot, and she was dead

[vocal jungle]

I just lost my steel soul run because of the furm 😭

[buoyant urchin]

What do people say about you in there

[twin prism]

😭

[stiff briar]

easier said than done on some bosses of course

[brittle elbow]

barbed is crazy

[foggy tapir]

TROBBBBBBBBBBIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

atleast its not them kissing or some shit
and it feels accurate to what she would say

[buoyant urchin]

Good point no wonder why she doesn't wear them all
It will look embarrassing

[carmine yoke]

Ass Jim no matter their gender

[buoyant urchin]

In da city

[grave rune]

When we do get a pantheon of pharloom esque dlc we will absolutely change our opinions on bosses, fighting a boss where if you get hit once you're dead is way different compared to having multiple hits, you immediately start noticing anything that screams "I had genuinely no where to go"

[spring heath]

coming up

[flat remnant]

how is it hard for people to get that sometimes they use women for male roles and vice versa

[foggy tapir]

fuck

[brittle elbow]

why did they change it for the pc version?

[carmine yoke]

I have no clue, I think their pronous are Cook/Ass

[heady cove]

As far as we know Ass Jim uses they/them

[grave rune]

wait till they hear who plays bart simpson and luffy (dub)

[open dirge]

actually make it deal 4 masks of damage so if you took any previous masks you will die on the spot
also make it happen randomly so that if you aren't healed enough you die
also make them have more health than every boss combined (by 1 hp)

[flat remnant]

it's not you it's about sherma and pilby and basically every child

[toxic horizon]

Really wonder how they’re gonna have red tools work in the godhome equivalent

[flat remnant]

they actually got a guy who is 9 years old forever to be bart

[bitter blade]

Lugoli is referred to by they/them in dialogue iirc

[foggy tapir]

like red tools

[tawdry valley]

They’re asking because they’re confused though

[drowsy frigate]

cant wait for floorless savage beastfly with lava in pantheon! anyone else?

[heady cove]

Nothing gendered, and Hornet uses they/them in their hunter's journal entry, so probably they/them

[grave rune]

grandmother silk gets absorbed by moss mother

[tawdry valley]

answer them

[open dirge]

probably make them restore like how the red tools work in dream fights

[dense oasis]

Grandfather silk

[torn spear]

C'mon dude I just got to act 4

[foggy tapir]

grandmother of the flame

[crimson drift]

I got dialogue with someone calling them a she

[buoyant urchin]

Also give her the hk and silksong infection together

[drowsy frigate]

actually kinda heat pun unintended

[supple ridge]

I'm guessing no shell shards required to repair, but you need to bench to replenish them so that you can't spam them in pantheon fights

[brittle elbow]

oh my god it's that one pokemon

[foggy tapir]

i wanna see the father of the flame but its literally just one gigantic fire,

maybe act 3 version?

[somber crescent]

Hunters crest is fantastic I’ve been using it almost always

[undone stag]

How much should i do before lace v2 fight? is that the point of no retrun for act 2?

[foggy tapir]

WHAT IS IN YOUR PANTS.

[ * lancer. ]

[somber crescent]

Idk if that’s a hot take

[supple ridge]

no

[drowsy frigate]

then theres no father its just flame

[carmine yoke]

I'm putting off getting impregnated for the ending because it's so annoying to get there

[foggy tapir]

but what if it just starts slaming mother of the flame and its a duo boss?

[light swan]

guys what are yalls predictions for the upgraded bosses we'll see in godhome dlc

[kindred jacinth]

Hot take would be beast crest pogoing with that is a nightmare

[somber crescent]

Who else uses electric filament? Shit is peak

[drowsy frigate]

twisted bud

[toxic horizon]

Canon ending btw

[brittle elbow]

dababy

[buoyant urchin]

The wisp has to be my kinda least fav? Like you enter there and it's a whole ass area just so the game giving you the map out of the blue and the enemies vanish the min you beat the boss and you get all the journals

[true python]

Sherman is clearly referred as a male and probably very young, so little boys do have higher pitched voices before maturity. It's no surprise though why people confuse his gender due to the voice.

[dense oasis]

You can't fast travel with curse?

[carmine yoke]

Witch crest is the best abortion I've ever had

[toxic horizon]

Shaman crest+volt filament is so broken

[light swan]

im hoping for seamstress, second sentinel, first sinner, maybe fourth chorus, or something along those lines

[heady cove]

thank you but this is about lugoli

[somber crescent]

I see everyone hating hunters crest for some reason, it’s so smooth and satisfying, I hate the beast crest tbh cuz it feels so awkward

[foggy tapir]

it couldve had so much more potential

[drowsy frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/metroid-samus-aran-the-baby-gif-12035898688014386547

[open dirge]

agreed

[heady cove]

Lugoli

[terse stone]

we love the aborted fetus crest

[somber crescent]

My top 3 crests are prob hunter at top, wanderer at 2nd and shaman at 3rd

[north cipher]

SENSIBOOOOOOOOOOO

[carmine yoke]

I think you mean Ass Jim

[buoyant urchin]

True but like
Why the flames feel like they don't fit well
But yea it could've been bigger or atleast had for stuff to do

[foggy tapir]

big ass

[open dirge]

witch crest is peak

[true python]

Some game journalist out there with skills so bad that they use an auto clicker with the wanderers crest

[spring heath]

@foggy tapir

[foggy tapir]

fireflies in the mist looks cool

[somber crescent]

I respect ur opinion but for me it’s gotta be hunters crest

[toxic horizon]

Witch, shaman, and hunter are my personal favorites

[supple ridge]

I just finished my Steel Soul 100% in 30 hours run and it was my most used for a lot of the bosses early until reaper
Then Wanderer was used most except for most bigger bosses, where Hunter came back on (Unraveled, Beastfly 2 etc)
Then back to Reaper for the true final boss

[foggy tapir]

seen MUCH worse i promise ya

[kindred jacinth]

Na hunters has the added bonus of critical hits i believe when the meter is full so dont see why there's hate

[drowsy frigate]

wish it had an expansion
because wisp thicket was genuinely unsettling for me with the eerie, droning music in the background and the flame-cultist vibe

[toxic horizon]

Witch is absolutely #1, I love everything about the crest

[foggy tapir]

groal wtf do you mean by that what do youw ant to do groal

[somber crescent]

And this is coming from someone who beat p5 ab in the og hollow knight and got used to those controls btw, I still think hunter’s crest is the best

[kindred jacinth]

Even the healing? The hit box on that for fast bosses is silly

[open dirge]

if you don't get hit hunter's crest is pretty good
(you could probably use it with barbed bracelet and flintslate too just to add more damage from not being hit)

[foggy tapir]

plus some of the bind trinket combos go hard

[supple ridge]

Wanderer is the one with crits, Hunter has a 50%(?) damage increase at a full bar

[terse stone]

it feels like something that should be slightly bigger tbh, real grimm troupe vibes

[somber crescent]

Fr

[carmine yoke]

I'm never going to forgive that fuckass root hoe for making me search for Pollip Hearts for like 30 minutes just for a tool that upgrades my red tools (I don't use red tools at all) and then impregnating me

[toxic horizon]

Use the fast healing thing and learn the timings

[foggy tapir]

max level?

[buoyant urchin]

Yea no I don't understand this ship at all

[foggy tapir]

im flicking it groal, im flicking it

[toxic horizon]

40% iirc

[flat tide]

||I BEAT LACE 2.0 IN 3 TRIES NO TUTORIAL NO SKILLS NO TOOLS , for context it took near 100 tries to beat her first boss , i actuallly got gud😭||

[somber crescent]

Just don’t get hit, and hunter is the best

[foggy tapir]

same here

im flicking it so groal, good

[somber crescent]

Yeah

[kindred jacinth]

Learning timings? What am I a nerd? I'll stick to wacking my face into bosses with beast crest thank you

[light swan]

youre so cool and awesome i plove you

[supple ridge]

Hunter would be best crest in the game if not for pogo, i'm so deadass

[buoyant urchin]

It needed more enemies than fire flies...
Like maybe more traps or smth

[foggy tapir]

y e s

[toxic horizon]

Hunter still gets out damaged by architect and shaman even with max stacks

[terse stone]

Grimm troupe comes to pharloom and he’s peeved some fuckers are stealing his whole vibe

[light swan]

id still probably think witch is cooler but i can still understand this

[foggy tapir]

silk issue

[foggy tapir]

i wish i was hornet in that gif

[toxic horizon]

Coward

[light swan]

bro never played og hk /j

[hexed sigil]

I think thread storm + volt + shaman just beats everything

[somber crescent]

Who’s y’all fav boss? I LOVE the last judge so much and idk why but the singer who I can’t remember the name of and the cogwork dancers are a close second

[carmine yoke]

Hunter is the best crest BECAUSE of the pogo

[terse stone]

First sinner

[toxic horizon]

Trobbio x grimm yaoi

[inner hull]

Hello Silksong

[hexed sigil]

Phantom of the opera

[foggy tapir]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........

[foggy tapir]

o yeah cogwork dancers is my favorite

[light swan]

i love how witch and beast are both super glass cannon type builds yet have completely opposite playstyles (rushdown vs methodical assassination)

[somber crescent]

Thread storm is what I always always use and I never not have the filament on, I use the shaman crest occasionally tho cuz I’m addicted to hunters

[carmine yoke]

My baby, Phantom

[toxic horizon]

200+ damage for 4 silk is so nutty

[light swan]

lost lace and second sentinel are mine, im still debating on which ones better so id say theyre tied for me

[hexed sigil]

It's what speedrunners use too iirc

[foggy tapir]

erm are you the grandmother silk?

[supple ridge]

not saying the pogo is bad, just that every other one is better
atp i'd rather have the insane dps of wanderer or the free spell/heal spam from reaper, since otherwise I have to try to land 12 hits with the (imo) clunkiest nail for Reaper's upside

[somber crescent]

Groal has such a cool design but the boss fight’s game design is the opposite lol

[dire bison]

I think ||lost lace|| is easily my favorite boss

[carmine yoke]

That is my daughter you're speaking about

[toxic horizon]

TE currently has it in the route, wouldn’t be surprised if its changed once nerfed

[carmine yoke]

I adopted Phantom because GMS is a deadbeat hoe

[foggy tapir]

sure

[terse stone]

I’ve been infected by the crack idea that trobbio is grimms child he kicked out for being gay that’s been seeping into this chat, nothing wrong with the ship I just have brainrot and it’s fucking me up

[hexed sigil]

Y'know jump and dash is faster than sprinting

[kindred jacinth]

Seth and ||shakra||

[somber crescent]

I love silksong but I think I prefer og hollow knight a bit more

[runic crescent]

phantom was really cool.

[bitter blade]

Grimm would NOT do that

[buoyant urchin]

WAIT WAIT YOU CAN KILL THE WORMS IN SINNER'S ROAD??

[next walrus]

I do so far personally

[light swan]

i can totally believe that trobbio was kicked out of the grimm troupe

[toxic horizon]

They just remind me of spamton and tenna, so I can’t not see them as gay lovers

[runic crescent]

only in act 2 still

[somber crescent]

True true

[carmine yoke]

Groal x Phantom is not what I expected but pop off I suppose

[supple ridge]

I like the idea that Grimm and Trobbio are the yaoiful equivalent of Shakra and Hornet

[snow raft]

For Pantheom of Pharoom, I will try to get used to Shaman Crest. Having very strong silk specials sounds insane.

[buoyant urchin]

I killed the ones in blasted steps somehow so uh
These are next:3

[somber crescent]

They gotta have a godhome or smth in silksong right??? We have to be able to replay all the bosses in a future dlc

[foggy tapir]

and for the people curious, no the things on moss mothers torso are NOT utters, they are claws or something as seen on the younger counter part

[light swan]

the fact that you get them for free with weavelight is kind of crazy man

[supple ridge]

the heal feels so miserable though, some bosses are gonna be horrid

[terse stone]

Why is she so cool without even trying

[carmine yoke]

Silenced by the facist Dyno

[foggy tapir]

the cogwork dancers:

[carmine yoke]

My daughter 🥹

[snow raft]

Forgot about the heal…

[kindred jacinth]

Oh first sinner is a fun crack

[somber crescent]

Last judge >>>

[toxic horizon]

Not being able to heal in the air sucks so much, but its worth it

[foggy tapir]

can you not with your bull shit?

[somber crescent]

Any last judge fans here?

[carmine yoke]

What'd I do to you damn

[heady cove]

(Just as a heads up, the only pronouns we get for Phantom are they/them <3)

[kindred jacinth]

Would be if not for the run back

[somber crescent]

The run back isn’t even that bad tbh

[supple ridge]

I feel like witch has a lot of potential with its blue slots, just sucks that you can't abuse them since it's bind is waxk for exploration

[runic crescent]

last judge was another really good fight. very fitting final boss for act 1

[hexed sigil]

I think you can beat lost lace by not attacking(swinging) at all like you can just spam thread storm with shaman if ur using weavelight and 3 silk hearts

[somber crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-spoilers-last-judge-gif-14062312844860025805

[terse stone]

last judge is fun but I prefer phantom because I like my battles paced like dances

[supple ridge]

the run back is like 35 seconds optimized, tops

[carmine yoke]

I will be adjusting my vocabulary accordingly

[kindred jacinth]

It is with few movement upgrades and day 1 where everything did 2x damage

[light swan]

to be fair you couldnt heal in the air in hk so its just back to normal :D also could work for a downdash if you want maybe

[light swan]

wait but i thought lace called them her sister

[azure gorge]

Lore question, so I'm right in my understanding that the weavers ran the citadel before ||Grand mother silk|| started the haunting?

[somber crescent]

It’s such a cool theme and name for the final boss of act 1 (THE LAST JUDGE) bro that name is just badass

[toxic horizon]

Yeah but hornet can already downdash

[hexed sigil]

Even built it too

[kindred jacinth]

First sinner is a fun side boss love seths theme aswell plus fun movement on that boss too

[heady cove]

Phantom calls Lace their sister in the needolin dialogue, as far as I can tell

[toxic horizon]

Its assumed that the entire citadel exists just to keep GMS trapped

[somber crescent]

We need a mossbag mostly all of silksong lore vid to drop

[light swan]

grandmother silk created weavers, started to use them for their silk powers but then the weavers rebelled and trapped gms, some well needed context :D but yea youre mostly right

[supple ridge]

It's also really cool how the only other way through to the Citadel is "Sinner's Road", as those who make their way through there instead likely would NOT want to be judged by the Last Judge

[somber crescent]

Also if silksong is a sequel which Hollow knight ending was canon?

[echo temple]

WHY DO THE GAUNTLETS IN THE KHANS BOS FIGHT EXIST

[light swan]

oh nvm its the other way around then

[toxic horizon]

Well, not the only way

[terse stone]

I think that’s perfectly valid tbh, Hornet doesn’t know everything, just because it’s written in the journal doesn’t necessarily mean it’s absolute fact

[light swan]

but its an alternate way ig

[toxic horizon]

Dream no more or godhome endings

[supple ridge]

fire place don't count

[kindred jacinth]

Either radiance or godhome works nothing definitive tho

[light swan]

and also gms eventually started the haunting again because of the whiteward experiments

[terse stone]

Hornet doesn’t know what gender they are, so she uses they/them

[toxic horizon]

Only way to make the boss hard

[supple ridge]

godhome ending is canon 100% since ||you can see shade lord at the end of act 3|| true final boss spoilers

[terse stone]

Lace DOES know however

[azure gorge]

So I remember something about initially welcoming her, which suggests that she came to the citadel after it was already in operation. So my thought process was that the entire exploitative system was built by the weavers and then ||GMS|| adopted it

[drowsy frigate]

he's surrounded by hundreds of soldiers outside his tomb so i'd expect nothing less

[carmine yoke]

I'm like 90% sure Phantom is a girl due to that Needolin dialogue but there's a chance that's Phantom calling Lace sister and not the other way around

[toxic horizon]

I personally think godhome endings are more likely, but there are still arguments for dream no more

[light swan]

the weavers made the citadel to trap gms before gms took control again

[ocean bridge]

for fun, I theorycrafted silksong pantheons based on each chapel/crest

[tawdry sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-last-judge-walkie-talkie-gif-18345979765156066444

[echo temple]

like i cant get pass even the second gauntlet, because of those fkin stupid flying bs

[heady cove]

I'm about 99% sure it's Phantom lamenting to Lace about being spun only to unravel

[carmine yoke]

And I do know everything because I'm cool like that

[terse stone]

Hornet is merely a visitor to this land, her information is inherently going to be limited and she’s going off her own observations, along with her own personal thoughts

[light swan]

oh WHAT this is cool

[limpid sorrel]

are there different endings in act 3?

[toxic horizon]

Use your clawline more

[supple ridge]

can't wait for radiant unraveled where it has no floor, the boss uses clawline on YOU, and it spawns double the enemies !!

[kindred jacinth]

Her main information on which things are fluffy or not pretty much

[tawdry sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/judge-sentencing-meme-bilewater-silksong-gif-6507327091380503587

[carmine yoke]

Thanks Brosuke Brogashikata

[light swan]

i dont think gms would be included there tho, feels like itd be a dlc upgrade like absrad at the end of the ultimate path

[tawdry sierra]

why is huge flea a boss?

[azure gorge]

||The knight never assumes void given form in the godhome ending and that's the form he had in the ending. Plus he completely lost control in that ending. I took it more as the void given focus is inside his mind... Which is how it was tuned in embrace the void||

[supple ridge]

i know this sounds insane
but after 100% steel soul i can say for certainty i think we were overreacting when it came to bile water

[ocean bridge]

why not?

[toxic horizon]

Its like 30 seconds once you learn it dude

[celest whale]

Guys whats more broken than multibinder + mirror + injector + wavelight on the witch crest?

[full ledge]

Yippee

[opaque shadow]

||groal|| exists

[kindred jacinth]

Why is her name grandmother though or is that due to the weavers then subsequently everything else below them

[tawdry sierra]

its not a boss
i just went below the platform and up slash it

[supple ridge]

😔 guess which one i'm missing

[azure gorge]

I'm not seeing where the "citadel to trap" part is, that they left to escape her is explicit

[light swan]

i kinda hope all of the pantheons have pantheon exclusive bosses at the end of them

[celest whale]

Why must we fight all enemies in the way

[toxic horizon]

Shaman crest with volt filament using threadstorm

[ocean bridge]

well ideally we get some kinda flea representation in the pantheons

[lost wind]

Do the speed run trophies count towards the platinum?

[tawdry sierra]

it had a scream but not a boss name at the corner

[full ledge]

Curse?

[supple ridge]

Hunter's Mark

[toxic horizon]

its GRAND mother silk, not GRANDMOTHER Silk

[azure gorge]

It's grand and mother, in the sense of a grand hall, not the single word "grandmother"

[carmine yoke]

There are 0 enemies required to kill in the Last Judge's runback

[full ledge]

Oh yeah that’s just annoying

[celest whale]

I am still in act 2 so haven't got it yet

[light swan]

its just my understanding lol, i could be wrong but im pretty sure they trapped grandma in a cocoon and used the citadel to maintain the cocoon via song or whatever

[terse stone]

Since hornets system operates mostly on memories rather than dreams, we could end up getting a Vespa or Knight fight

[lost wind]

Do the speedrun trophies count towards the platinum trophy

[kindred jacinth]

My bad g i was clearly top focused on dodging daggers and boulders 💪

[celest whale]

The statement was a question not a assertion
Forgot the punctuation

[supple ridge]

i plan on copying my complete act 3 save file to my third slot so that i can revert the original back to act 2 so i have an easier time with the journal while simultaneously not getting rid of all my effort

[tawdry sierra]

knight boss has 5 hp but can heal and dodge all your attacks

[carmine yoke]

Noted

[light swan]

kngiht would be cool but i dont think its happening lol, vespa i could totally see happening

path of the hunter ends in vespa maybe

[terse stone]

Vespa would be so sick

[tawdry sierra]

sherma fight

[toxic horizon]

Or maybe herrah?

[brittle elbow]

ddark > threadstorm

[full ledge]

Doesn’t that put it back to the same state it was so you’d have to refill everything you got since then?

[light swan]

eeehh i dont really get herrah vibes

[toxic horizon]

Threadstorm is more like A. Shriek

[slim thorn]

that double kill felt nice

[brittle elbow]

wait right i confused the 2 rip

[light swan]

my only hopes for godhome is second sentinel upgrade and grandma silk upgrade tho

[supple ridge]

Yeah, but I blasted through everything in Act 3 and everything i finished the entry for was act 3 exclusive anyway

[terse stone]

It’d be another one of those fast paced sword battles paced like a dance

[trim fossil]

loki ive seen last judge as one of the easier walk backs lol

[carmine yoke]

Did you know that Hornet actually shows up in Silksong?

[light swan]

second sentinel is like broken vessel to me, cool af but if we got a lost kin version itd be even better (cuz lost kin is my favorite boss in hk)

[toxic horizon]

Godhome fourth chorus please

[azure gorge]

I feel like the exploitation thematically kinda falls flat if the weavers were always trying to protect from a terrifying enslaving force. Like it's just a repeat of what the pale King tried thematically. Works much better if they were exploiting for their own benefit. I also, think her being able to use that the bugs were already filled with silk makes more sense if it was a pre GMS system that they abandoned

[tawdry sierra]

we need a watcher knight fight with the sentinels

[brittle elbow]

is it even the same knight that showed up? there's like a bajillion of them

[carmine yoke]

Eighth Chorus, four more arms

[normal token]

Khann should get a buff too

[supple ridge]

Khann is a glorified enraged guardian to me

[toxic horizon]

It is the knight, we can tell by the horns

[toxic horizon]

Its really sad how easy he is

[light swan]

meh, i think he might get buffed but hes lowkey fine as is imo, godhome would miss the arena but i think thats fine

[flat remnant]

i wish we had different silksong channels like one for lore one for gameplay and the technical aspects and one for first time players etc

[brittle elbow]

wait
who's khann

[supple ridge]

act 3

[light swan]

heart guy in coral tower

[silver mural]

Anyone curious how hornet eat or drink? Does she have mouth?

[brittle elbow]

ohhhh coral tower guy. i forgot his name lmao

[flat remnant]

through the eyeholes

[light swan]

she stabs the nutrients into herself

[burnt lion]

i think the absolute shithole that is the gauntlet before khann makes him being easy pretty fair lol 😭

[brittle elbow]

yea he doesn't have any simultaneous attacks and he always has a full-second tell

[azure gorge]

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the final scene confirms ||dream no more|| not ||embrace the void or pale flower||, which I'm glad of because ||it's the most thematically compelling ending especially since the three siblings all participate||

[eternal bone]

why tf does nyleth have to pull a markoth what a boss

[carmine yoke]

The mask lifts to show her horror movie-esque mouth

[azure gorge]

I like her a lot more

[toxic horizon]

Learned from THK

[light swan]

she did it right tho

[azure gorge]

I assume like a spider, injects poison and sucks out innards

[full rune]

why is this fight so hard

[tawdry valley]

You have a grapple hook that nails you out of any of her moves and is also free (high) damage

[toxic slate]

is there a mod launcher for silksong like how scarab and lumafly is for hk yet

[toxic horizon]

Really hope lifeblood is the next major threat in the next game

[light swan]

after lifetimes of training they finally mastered the art of self stabation

[finite atlas]

Is Lace a child?

[toxic slate]

WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN

[flat remnant]

get gud etc

[azure gorge]

Its basically weaver v2

[river island]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568260195

[terse stone]

I was about to say “first sinner isn’t that hard” and then the second one pops up

[light swan]

dlc exclusive steel soul exclusive long questline

[toxic horizon]

No, acts like once, but is around the same age as hornet, if a little younger

[flat remnant]

you need to press up up down down left right left right on the menu then it takes you to EX mode

[azure gorge]

We don't know how old she is actually, but essentially yes

[toxic slate]

oh helll nahhh

[tranquil wigeon]

The moment I went from "Oh, wait, this boss isn't that hard" to "Two of them???"

[carmine yoke]

She acts like a child most of the time because Grand Mother Silk made her to be her child but she's older than most bugs in Pharloom

[silver mural]

Is hornet head a mask or her actual cranium?

[tranquil wigeon]

That second one scared the shit out of me