sk-discussion

[rocky cosmos]

obviously there will be narrative explanations for these problems but in the vast majority of other metroidvanias these are basic things lol

[fervent forge]

dual conchflies was harder, after all in raging conchfly im fighting half the bosses but a bit faster which should never be a problem that late in the game, and the minions that spawn are easy and mostly get destroyed by the conchfly itself if i remember correct

[unreal sparrow]

nah raging one is harder.

[leaden delta]

oh no i agree, if you're talking about the fact that ad bosses are more fun when you have ot deal with the guys? i didnt understand the message, i think

[hollow forum]

I feel like any sort of complexity in the first game was completely optional, in Silksong it's just required learning, which is why alot more people are struggling with it

[leaden delta]

like, i do think i like fireball and shriek more than i think every silk skill, other than silkspear

[slender thistle]

Enraged conchfly sucks

[grand kraken]

dayum fast as hell, gl!

[subtle skiff]

That is true to a certain extent

[frosty light]

no im referring to the fact you can bypass the scaling by quartering your damage outright instead of trying to use old nail on everything

[leaden delta]

i dont think it was entirely optional, but yes it's a much more prevalent thing

[fervent forge]

both were easy the difference between them couldnt even be noticed, id say the raging one has longer runback but i did it 1st try so i cant decide how bad it is

[clever granite]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[rocky cosmos]

i kind of understand you. i know how malleable hollow knight's combat was but it's nowhere near as malleable as silksong, which introduces you to both new mechanics and, like, 7 different crests in addition to several tools and stuff

[unreal sparrow]

thanks!

[leaden delta]

ohhhh that's neat

[ornate torrent]

i like silksongs crest and tool system a lot because a lot of times in hk once u grind godhome with quickslash ustrength sb and ddark shade dash u forget how to do combat with no gear

[clever granite]

i did it better this time

[zealous night]

i hope in silksong 2 the starting area is bilewater

[subtle skiff]

Just basegame up until like, maybe p5 you can just ignore most things and facetank and or ddark spam your way through everything thats kinda true

[uneven aurora]

(Act 2/3 spoilers) can someone tell me the difference between the ||singular claw mirror and the double claw mirror||?

[rocky cosmos]

raging one is like 2x harder

[split cape]

Violently coughs and dies

[hollow forum]

I'm just a bigger fan of games that make you think fast and critically, which Hollow Knight did well, but I find Silksong does even better

[ornate torrent]

more damage and range

[fervent forge]

2x 0 is still 0

[uneven aurora]

Alright thanks

[rocky cosmos]

wdym...? ALL AREAS should be bilewater but with a different color palette 🥹✌🏻

[hollow forum]

I'm ngl both of them were some of the easiest bosses in the game

[clever granite]

https://tenor.com/view/ralsei-deltarune-gif-2528763519616581625

[restive rivet]

Imo not really. With 2 you have to pay attention to attacks from 2 sources and they can be perpendicular to each other. When it's just raging, the only time you have to do that is when the 3 little guys are shooting horizontally and they telegraph the order like 3 seconds in advance, then the big guy always flies horizontally.

There's no way raging is harder when you need to pay attention way less

[rocky cosmos]

💔😭

[solar moss]

yeah real, also i feel like in silksong you're more forced to adapt and change out your crests and tools more often compared to HK

[zealous night]

down with the citadel in with waterbile

[unreal sparrow]

hunter crest is definitely top 3 for me.

1. wanderer
2. hunter
3. architect ( i am not batman and i am not ready to spend 250 shards per boss battle )

[mortal lichen]

raging conchfly's minions don't get destroyed, they just don't persist after attacking for the first time. They're more like projectiles than enemies.

[subtle skiff]

Btw as someone that hasnt played ss yet, how is it regarding challenge running? That is the main thing that kept me playing Hk, ive heard no godhome equivalent rn which is obviously terrible from a challenge running Perspektive although i hope it gets added later

[frosty light]

people are really saying the conchflies were easier than savage beastfly 1 and lace 2 😔

[leaden delta]

partially yea. i like that a lot more bosses in silksong force you to think about positioning too, but i dont think any fight compares to absrad and gpz in that feeling but that's an unrelated sentence

[glacial kelp]

-1 > -2 therefore its actually easier

[fervent forge]

yeah i remember now, i used to get free silk off of them

[ornate torrent]

hot take groal is a poorly designed boss, most of the arena being muckwater and most attacks not hitting you in the muckwater literally encourages you to "cheese" the boss

[warm siren]

silksong ost gets too much slander; what was your favourite song in the soundtrack? mine is currently high halls

[rocky cosmos]

they were indeed easy but stills such a cool bossfight where you need to think fast and his summons instead of being super annoying add to the boss's moveset

[hollow forum]

I half agree, but those are DLC bosses and I'm sure Silksong's DLC will add equally crazy shit

[uneven aurora]

They are tbh, i beat the duo version first try and i got jumpscared by them when i wasnt ready

[rocky cosmos]

what😭💔

[frosty light]

(ok i cant even really remember how they matched up exactly i am kind of 25% ragebaiting here)

[normal token]

Where are these people slandering the silksong ost I do not see them at all

[ornate torrent]

imo i disagree with this but there is much more viable variety definitely

[restive rivet]

It rewards you for taking a risk

[glacial kelp]

idk people say its worse than hks

[unreal sparrow]

maybe some peoples skill set isnt the same.. idk. for me its harder. although i dont die to it now. i still feel its harder. the double one is easier cause they are slwo and u get a lot of time to react + double the hitting points = more silk

[hollow forum]

I think it's just because the OST is more lowkey than the first game, but it's beautiful as always

[warm siren]

… saying the ost is like, a 7/10

[ornate torrent]

imo wanderer is flat out better than hunter but hunter is way more fun to me so i play hunter

[warm siren]

i think the soundtracks for both games equally fit the themes of both games

[uneven aurora]

My biggest problem with silksong tbh is that enemies dont drop enough shell shards

[leaden delta]

yeah, and that's why im not like entiiiiirely standing on that opinion, because ultimately im comparing like 10 years of hk with dlc, a ton of modding, and challenges, to silksong on release

[normal token]

HK's ost has some real gems but giving the tracks a listen on yt silksong's ost def grew on me more
Sorta wish the game balanced the audio a bit more tho

[past ivy]

DUDE HOW MUCH HP DOES LAST JUDGE HAVE

IVE BEEN (excuse my language) FUCKING FIGHTING THIS BOSS FOR SO LONG IT FEELS LIKE IVE GROWN FACIAL HAIR

PLWASEEEEE

[leaden delta]

with the bosses, at least

[warm siren]

they are both as good as eachother in my opinion

[unreal sparrow]

thats why its at 1. the dps it gets with flintslate is ginormous. i can defeal ALMOST all bosses in under 2 minutes

[leaden delta]

i do still think the hk combat system ends up being lowk better

[carmine kraken]

Act 3 bosses give me the same vibe of endgame ds3.

[frosty light]

lower gear challenges are more fogiving since most enemies have hand-picked damage scaling based on your upgrades to account for where youre at in the game when you meet them. the result is most upgrades just arent as meaningful as in hk, although the scaling is less revelant for later upgrades

[hollow forum]

Yeah I'm salivating for Silksong godhome personally

[rocky cosmos]

saying that clair obscur soundtrack is better isn't slander twin 💔💔😭
my currently fav song is probably... bilewater.

[glacial kelp]

cog core is weirdly super loud yeah a lot of tracks i just phase out mentally

[wind compass]

try getting flintslate and using that to beat her, it deals a lot of damage

[vocal sky]

Did you get ur first nail upgrade? As long as you have that it shouldn’t be that bad

[past ivy]

YES

[ornate torrent]

yeah honestly this feels too cheesy for me lmao, i think wanderer is so unbalanced given how the other crests with a special property have significant drawbacks

[subtle skiff]

As someone that does a lot of low gear stuff.. thats a bummer lol

[rocky cosmos]

this is very opinion based but maybe you just prefer spells over tools? idk

[past ivy]

my last attempt i was fighting them for 10 MINUTES STRAIGHT

[elfin grove]

i like skarrs

[glacial kelp]

wait does flintslate triple your damage at nail 0

[warm siren]

well… that argument does stand because if you think HK’s combat system was better you can just switch to wanderers crest, otherwise i would agree with you

[carmine kraken]

I like how much tougher the first nail upgrade is to get compared to every other upgrade

[spark panther]

why is every enemy a PRIMAL ASPID DESCENDANT??

[wheat crown]

yall is this acurate for everybody in bilewater

[hollow forum]

I prefer spells and that's why Shaman crest is my goat

[worn canyon]

Haters making fun of sherma for making music to open a door

Hornet literally doing that later in the game

Maybe Sherma was right… we were just quicker

[past ivy]

the craw who throws darts in greymoor

[vocal sky]

That would mean that they are just an aspid
Which is really easy to fight

[spark panther]

specially in underworks

[rocky cosmos]

no

[unreal sparrow]

i mean the tools if used properly are also pretty broken. so i'd say it balances out . safety vs proactive greedy attacks.

[wind compass]

of course
Bilewater is the love child of the Brits and the French

[fresh furnace]

Finally got sub 2 hours

[warm siren]

I havent played the game but ok
not sure how that game even relates to hollow knight silksong

[wheat crown]

ur the only one

[hollow forum]

If you wait outside the door for ten hours Sherma's song will eventually open it

[rocky cosmos]

yea im the chosen one

[spark panther]

YES FOR EXAMPLE WHY ARE THEIR AI'S SO ADVANCED???

[carmine kraken]

You must love the putrified ducts

[fresh furnace]

Time to get 1 hour 30 haha?

[frosty light]

yknow, im still curious how both protagonists would play if in their opposite games...

[wheat crown]

@rocky cosmos is the only one that likes that hell

[glacial kelp]

sub 1h when

[spark panther]

oooh no i LOVE underworks and greymoor

[pliant quartz]

Not reading messages unless thyre a reply but I'm just asking for a estimate on how many hours in give or take till the game ramped up for you guys (similar to how hk ramped up after dash or mantis claws)

[restive rivet]

Bro Birmingham is worse than bilewater. They have trash piling up in the streets. At least bilewater is tucked away and the maggots are taking care of any trash

[ornate torrent]

i think hk modded was really good, and i expect similar things from silksong. much of base hk combat tho is detracted from because you have such ridiculous damage output and essentially free iframes whenever that do ridiculous damage

[fresh furnace]

ask real speedrunners for that))

[hollow forum]

Like 1

[onyx owl]

TC made bilewater because they thought Royal Waterways wasn't an ugly hideous disgusting degenerate piece of filth place enough

[rocky cosmos]

those mfs💔

[carmine kraken]

It scares me how simple creatures in the ducts have massive gaping jaws of death for some reason

[unreal sparrow]

u forgot the mosquito from putrified ducts and the SNIPER driller

[rocky cosmos]

i love it

[wheat crown]

but u have a chef trowhing ass at you

[carmine kraken]

At least the bell people dont hide in the muck

[glacial kelp]

funny that these are probably mostly hated just because of arenas

[ornate torrent]

dont forget the ducts mosquito that is fucking semi auto

[rocky cosmos]

he dodges every pogo 💔

[restive rivet]

We need to apologise to primal aspids

[onyx owl]

The right one caused a lot of bullshit deaths to me

[hollow forum]

I feel like Royal Waterways is more similar to Underworks, and Bilewater is like Deepnest maybe

[unreal sparrow]

the bell attack is so awfulll. it even bounces arond

[leaden delta]

i think tools are fine. im okay with tools. i do think fireball and wraiths are really well made though, and i certainly like them more than every skill except silkspear

[elfin grove]

so true

[onyx owl]

Bilewater is just shit

[rocky cosmos]

the underworks one is chill btw

[glacial kelp]

you can reflect them tbf

[wind compass]

at least Royal Waterways only looked disgusting
Now I got fucking maggots leeching my silk out like I'm their mommy

[leaden delta]

i was talking with my gf about this earlier, actually

[carmine kraken]

The ducts one is definitely the worst

[unreal sparrow]

say that to 3 other enemies in the arena

[onyx owl]

The entire place was built as a massive fuck you by TC

[restive rivet]

Idk mayn, between a caked up chef and Birmingham girls, it's not a hard pick

[vocal sky]

Where’s the ricochet aspid and his big brother

[leaden delta]

well no, because this ignores the fact you have shade dash, two spells, and three narts to work around

[onyx owl]

I JUST LOST 580 ROSARIES HAHAHAHAHAH

[unreal sparrow]

my nemesis

[wheat crown]

is birmingham that bad 😭😭

[frosty light]

i JUST realized "incisive battle" is the sequel to decisive battle

[wind compass]

Wreath of Purity should give us permanent invincibility to the maggot water if I'm giving up a tool slot for it

[onyx owl]

My fav place in the game rn is either choral chambers or the Fay Mount

[glacial kelp]

the fucking drillers when they used to do 2 damage istg….

[marble swift]

How do I get this guy?

[rocky cosmos]

why are silksong's flying enemies so evolved and seem to be smarter than even me 💔💔💔

[carmine kraken]

From greymoor

[restive rivet]

Wait which enemy is ricochet aspid? For some reason can't remember a ricochet enemy. Is it sinners road?

[unreal sparrow]

let me hold your hand while i tell you this

[ornate torrent]

go from exhaust organ

[wind compass]

go up the elevator, but hop off soon after to the elevator reveals a path

[glacial kelp]

drill beetle

[spark panther]

these

[vocal sky]

Sands of karak

[rocky cosmos]

probably around here

[restive rivet]

Oh yeah fuck those guys

[onyx owl]

That bell throwing fuck literally predicts where I'll jump to and headshots me 360 no scope

[elfin grove]

my PTSD comes back

[leaden delta]

this also applies for modded stuff tbh. funnily, i fought against this by banning both strength and ddark

[spark panther]

HM: reed and hauler

[rocky cosmos]

YES I HATE HIM

[marble swift]

No you’re wrong. Stop lying

[zenith nacelle]

GUYS IM ABOUT 3HR30MIN INTO MY RUN AND IM AT GMS

[spark panther]

TRUE BRO

[restive rivet]

In hollow knight 3, flying enemies are completely off screen

[zenith nacelle]

I AM SO HYPED

[vocal sky]

Beastfly

[spark panther]

LIKE WHY ARE THEY SO ADVANCED???

[elfin grove]

huh

[onyx owl]

The bird enemies aren't that bad once you get the hang of it

[glacial kelp]

they shoot no telegraph lasers at you that deal 3 masks

[zenith nacelle]

speedrun achievement

[carmine kraken]

Hunters march was a brutal but fun area. The music gave me kingdoms edge vibes

[rocky cosmos]

i can PROMISE you that its that way bro trust me please 💔💔

[spark panther]

they are. i hate birds. i'm birdphobic.

[subtle skiff]

Honestly to get the most out of hk combat you kinda do gotta ban both of those lmao yeah

[onyx owl]

Beastfly took me longer than the normal final boss

[elfin grove]

i thought 1st run

[ornate torrent]

i recently did boundless infinity and had a ton of fun with it, its def not ddark spammable (although the fight is way more parry centric than hollow knight is), i think like, even aikg you at least need to be quite strategic with ddark usage

[unreal sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S-KeQx6Lh34?feature=share

[carmine kraken]

Is it not as bad as it seems?

[vocal sky]

That’s the normal final boss being easy, not beastfly being hard

[wind compass]

hk 4, every few seconds the game rolls a dice to see if you lose hearts

[zenith nacelle]

oh nah

[spark panther]

primal aspid but flies everywhere and takes 50 hits to kill + throws aimbotted bells

[rocky cosmos]

silksong's every enemy design and annoyingness tierlist btw ✌🏻✌🏻

[onyx owl]

I did a lot of stuff today but Bilewater made me call it for today

[leaden delta]

but i fucking hate ddark!!!!!! just ban it

[grand kraken]

im glad i beat gms while cursed on my first run cause it's really easy otherwise

[warm siren]

genuinely forgot about those.. srry im tired
honestly i do slightly prefer hollow knights combat system (maybe it’s just nostalgia but idk) and i do kinda want team cherry to make more hollow knight dlc even though i know they probably never will

[onyx owl]

I don't think it's easy tbh

[leaden delta]

engaging wit hthe boss is fun, actually

[glacial kelp]

itd obviously be 4 masks since its hk * 4

[onyx owl]

Just, fair.

[glacial kelp]

how long did hk take to develop again

[spark panther]

my favorites are FC, last judge and the dancers

[marble swift]

You’re the kinda guy that would tell me that mask upgrades make the game easier, and that I should be buying the maps from shakra

[onyx owl]

It feels like Radiance

[unreal sparrow]

this guy needs a special hall of fame of not being able to hit with needle

[restive rivet]

Tfw we have to wait another 7 years for hk3...

[ornate torrent]

out of curiosity what are ur thoughts on cross stitch

[onyx owl]

You can

[hollow forum]

Timing ddarks in AbsRad is so satisfying though

[rocky cosmos]

mask upgrades make the game easier and you should be buying the maps from shakra

[unreal sparrow]

of course we can its so difficult

[wind compass]

ofc, it all makes sense

[spark panther]

fourth chorus is like so peak tho

[carmine kraken]

Shouldn't the flame guys be near the bottom?

[zenith nacelle]

yeah, on my 2nd attempt i got here

[onyx owl]

You have to get behind it

[rocky cosmos]

LMAO

[frosty light]

only 1 nail art thats not generally as spammable as in that (originally) didnt give any silk with a 2-3 notch nailmasters glory (except its also 0.8 seconds instead of 0.75) is some fucking NONSENSE

[leaden delta]

what if we made ddark but it has no startup and also you can do it in the sky and also it gives you more iframes. it's like a cool spell but i find it boring tbh

[marble swift]

“🤓”

[rocky cosmos]

which flame guys i dont know who they are 💔💔

[leaden delta]

i wanna try to do double beastfly without it

[onyx owl]

Best early game boss fight along with Lace

[rocky cosmos]

🤓

[carmine kraken]

The ones that shoot the flame wisps and teleport

[spark panther]

YES TRUE

[leaden delta]

cross stitch is really op

[snow oak]

finally i just beat ||lost lace|| after 1 hour

[ashen linden]

i have beaten lost lace 3 times

once for true ending
another for 100%
another to take screenshots of the final cutscene to set as my wallpaper

[rocky cosmos]

last judge's design isnt that cool tbh

[unreal sparrow]

bunch of assholes

[onyx owl]

I dig it

[restive rivet]

Thank goodness there's only like 3 of them, though that's 3 too many

[spark panther]

is this for the || architect crest? ||

[onyx owl]

It was challenging

[unreal sparrow]

its great. wouldnt say op though as damage is less. perfectly balanced

[hollow forum]

yea

[leaden delta]

its op it's ddark

[spark panther]

it isss and the thing bro says before the bossfight is peak, idek what he says (or she)

[leaden delta]

it's really fucking strong

[grand kraken]

i dont even remember how i beat two of these guys im still scared of them

[ashen linden]

buy the ||architect's key|| from ||twelfth architect||

[spark panther]

alr thanks chat

[crystal plume]

Any of you guys gotten purple quill?

[unreal sparrow]

gotta time it . so skill is required more than ddark

[carmine kraken]

Cross stitch is one of those things that may be easy to do but its always cool to do it. Like sekiro lightning reversals

[spark panther]

yeah yeah, i know that opens it but i was just checking

[rocky cosmos]

nah i actually like him he has aura

[unreal sparrow]

i just threw my tools and prayed it died

[normal token]

I think its window can be punishing tbf

[placid obsidian]

tf

[leaden delta]

wow

[crystal plume]

Wtf is that

[rocky cosmos]

bro wtf 😭

[carmine kraken]

Ban time

[subtle skiff]

<@&283547423706447872>

[normal token]

Fuck off bruh

[rocky cosmos]

isnt even funny bro cmon 🤞🏻

[frosty light]

i never tried using it that much so i wouldnt be the one to really know but personally? i thought it was fuckin dogwater compared to ddark you cant even be mindless anymore :(

[grand kraken]

wait a minute

[onyx owl]

bro opened the wrong server

[wheat crown]

BRO

[crystal plume]

Bro I’m in class

[spark panther]

best bossfight in the game 🥹

[placid obsidian]

worse than bilewater 😔

[subtle skiff]

Discord moment

[rocky cosmos]

w

[leaden delta]

its the animation that gets to me. it's so fucking smooth

[silver oak]

thanks

[pearl swan]

For me the best boss fight is Zote

[wheat crown]

Im not saying this as a joke im actualy traumatized

[crystal plume]

That was crazy

[placid obsidian]

honestly one of the best designs but mechanically kinda boring
was a nice departure from a lot of bosses though

[wind compass]

I look into the channel and the first thing I see is THAT

[spark panther]

in silksong

[rocky cosmos]

actually thats fr

[unreal sparrow]

why is fourth chorous smoother than every other boss.

[subtle skiff]

instantly started analyzing thaz shit

[spark panther]

yeahh its peak

[wheat crown]

wtf was that

[onyx owl]

Aura

[main glacier]

does dying in memories count in steel soul?

[leaden delta]

no it was just on my screen and i looked at it

[wheat crown]

im traumatized 😭

[spark panther]

cuz hes HIM.

[unreal sparrow]

seems like someone put a 144fps animation in my 30fps animation game

[crystal plume]

I think the person behind me in class may have saw that💀

[placid obsidian]

cooked

[rocky cosmos]

no

[carmine kraken]

Probably is. Im probably too used to parries to give an accurate statement of how generous their window is

[turbid solar]

I can't wait until I am finally free of this curse of a boss arena and can get back to the good parts of the game...

[silver oak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662500313130991617/1418380398035075225/IMG_2587.gif

[stiff rampart]

there really should be a rematch of it

[vestal vault]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/438005116205793290/1172959547418226708/RtuzQ.gif?ex=656236b4&is=654fc1b4&hm=bc7a3f44e5f62429318af5a1b2c2a10c6046bc9a9a84fac7640fe2ff78054773&

[leaden delta]

like youre right but it's still easy

[main glacier]

so does that mean for 100% steel soul, it would be easier to skip ||nyleth|| (as you have to fight ||seth||) and get the other ||3 hearts|| instead?

[grand kraken]

im gonna need that pantheon dlc soon, team cherry

[frosty light]

[lucid kayak]

I know that in the game you can roll back the save to a certain point in the game. Can I make a copy of this point in the game in a separate save without deleting my current save in the game and without messing with the save in the folders? Or should I just make a copy of the save file I have now and roll back my main one?

[silver oak]

Curry made a good version of this but I think the messed up one is funnier

[unreal sparrow]

u get to see him a lot of times in speedrunning.

[glossy surge]

Has it been proven whether ||The Mist is doable without Needolin?||

[hot cosmos]

what did i miss

[rocky cosmos]

yes

[pearl swan]

They once tried that in Russia but it did not survive.

[crystal plume]

Yeah it’s just rng

[paper galleon]

is it impossible to get the witch crest after act 3??

[silver oak]

I mean you CAN brute force it

it just sucks

[pearl swan]

I wanted to be a counterbalancing force in the universe

[restive rivet]

Yeah I think so. Coral tower had conchfly but I think Seth is harder

[glossy surge]

lmaoooo

[unreal sparrow]

i did nyleth and defeated seth. i mean ... seths alright,... use poison tacks and cogflies.. RIP seth i am so sorry.

[frosty light]

no

[silver oak]

You can get it you just can’t get the ending

[rocky cosmos]

conchfly harder tbh ✌🏻✌🏻😭

[normal token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662500313130991617/1418381742934327358/IMG_2589.gif

[stiff rampart]

no i mean hes too easy for boss with a good design this early in game

[onyx owl]

Is memorium worth it or do I do Bilewater first?

[tidal hearth]

Sure the fleas are cute, but i think ||Mr.Mushroom talking to that Faydown Bird at the peak of Mt. Fay was WAYYY cuter||

[main glacier]

thats right i forgot about conchfly. ALTHOUGH you need conchfly for a tool anyway right?

[wheat crown]

bro who th posted that video here bro u need to pay for my therapist sesion 120 bucks to my paypall rn!

[wild socket]

i can proudly say i found all memory lockets without any tutorials

[wind compass]

memoriums got some cool stuff

[unreal sparrow]

wait u fight conchfly that late? i always did it act 2

[paper galleon]

how do i get it?

[stiff rampart]

get wreath from ||ducts from memorium before bilewater||

[zenith nacelle]

yay!

[rocky cosmos]

he should have more lore istg

[silver oak]

Beat the final boss before you clear the curse

[onyx owl]

Very well

[frosty light]

i couldnt find the whiteward area with the key

[restive rivet]

yes and with the 9 page guide, it increases your chances, but the wrong choice can be VERY punishing. You may not know how punishing til 4 rooms later

[wheat crown]

WHO POSTED THAT VIDEO GIMME MY THERAPY MONEY RN

[rocky cosmos]

i did it act 1 wdym

[onyx owl]

I'm in bilewater rn but I genuienly don't want to do it for my own mental health

[lucid kayak]

I know that in the game you can roll back the save to a certain point in the game. Can I make a copy of this point in the game in a separate save without deleting my current save in the game and without messing with the save in the folders? Or should I just make a copy of the save file I have now and roll back my main one?

[unreal sparrow]

can i get your autograph. big fan

[restive rivet]

Oh yes conchcutter

[main glacier]

3 hours of those spent on the high halls arena probably 🥀🥀

[daring falcon]

Where was it you find the root baby?

[paper galleon]

which final boss

[silver oak]

GMS

[hot cosmos]

i just figured out why those streamers were strugling in hunters march... they were using controlers (i decided to replay silksong with a controller just reached hunters march and now im thinking bout doing it with a keyboard and then continueing with a controller...)

[onyx owl]

Not without messing around with the game filed

[glossy surge]

So that means the the only mandatory bosses to get an ending are: ||Moss Mother, Bell Beast, Lace 1, Fourth Chorus, Phantom, Cogwork Dancers, Lace 2, and Grand Mother Silk?||

[paper galleon]

i dont have access to that fight anymore

[ornate torrent]

best red tools for a build not focused around using tools?

[rocky cosmos]

yea ill write #1 bilewater fan on your shirt okay 🤞🏻

[unreal sparrow]

songclave from top right... somewhere. and dropping into bilewater

[heady rampart]

i feel like hook is underrated offensively

[silver oak]

Oh yeah then you can’t get that ending

[covert gyro]

HOW THE FCK DO I GET OUTTTT

[silver oak]

You can still get the crest tho

[ornate torrent]

idt bell beast or fourth chorus is required

[main glacier]

you can skip fourth chorus

[rocky cosmos]

flea brew and flintslate

[vocal sky]

Up

[unreal sparrow]

yes. unpopular opinion bilewater is fun. i have gotten very good at traversing it.

[onyx owl]

Phantom isn't a necessity.

[green kestrel]

END ME 😭💔

[onyx owl]

I did Phantom after getting an ending.

[heady rampart]

lace 1 can be skipped with the flea caravan

[rocky cosmos]

fourth chorus isnt

[covert gyro]

WYM UP I DID GO UP THERES NOT PLATFORMS

[wind compass]

grapple on that ring and then harpoon the enemies on top. Harpooning enemies bouces ou upward

[zenith nacelle]

actually didn't spend that much time, i did like 5 try high halls, 5 try last judge, 1 try lace and gms

[glossy surge]

Oh shoot sweet

[restive rivet]

I think lace 1 can be despawned by going blasted steps or sinners road

[paper galleon]

how do i do that?

[silver oak]

Do you have the baby that screams annoyingly

[covert gyro]

I CANT REACH THEM

[vocal sky]

Bell beast can be skipped, watch a low% run

[frosty light]

lace 1 can be skipped and has special dialogue if you do so. i think thats still doable just fine in sinners road route just by rescuing fleas. gotta fight trobbio also

[ornate torrent]

yeah bell beast phantom fourth chorus and lace 1 are skippable i think

[main glacier]

ah, i went phantom route into act 2. didnt die to any boss or fight until the high halls gauntlet lmao

[wheat crown]

bro yall i need to know fr how long is that guy that posted that nfsw video here gonna get banned for?

[rocky cosmos]

holy W thank you for existing

[smoky bridge]

Shit. I got so used to platforming with Scuttle brace I just down-dashed right into spikes the second I took it off.

[vocal sky]

Did you check the left side of the room yet

[heady rampart]

phantom is the alternative boss for last judge

[lucid kayak]

😢

[onyx owl]

Sinners road would be a decent place if not for ROACHES

[covert gyro]

WHAT LEFT YES

[paper galleon]

wtf does that mean 😭

[ornate torrent]

nvm not bell beast

[vocal sky]

You have clawline right

[glossy surge]

Yeah I was listing them as a route

[unreal sparrow]

i still hate those jumping out of maggot water big maggots and eat ing you. good thing i never need to go there again after taking shard.

[onyx owl]

I just dps spam them with spells and tools

[silver oak]

If you don’t know you haven’t found it yet

It’s in bilewater

[glossy surge]

And Trobbio is mandatory?

[vocal sky]

Then you can just use it to go up?

[wind compass]

what?? There should be a ring/platform up there
just harpoon that ring in front of you and jump upwards
you can also harpoon in the air and still go forward

[unreal sparrow]

not really.

[main glacier]

the humble hunters journal achievement:

[rocky cosmos]

LMAO I HATE IT TOO 😭

[silver oak]

Is there a way to get conductor’s melody without Trobbio?

[unreal sparrow]

done once never again.

[paper galleon]

does it happen to be in the only place i havent gone through yet

[rocky cosmos]

isnt

[static rose]

i think i heard someone say you can get to it via mist(?)

[frosty light]

no????

[restive rivet]

Worst part of bilewater imo, hardest thing to dodge in there

[vocal sky]

It’s in a secret entrance via whispering vaults

[glossy surge]

Okay yeah Trobbio is optional, I didn't see where people were coming from there lmao

[paper galleon]

hmmm ok

[unreal sparrow]

u can dash through the room by like clawlining on top but a few will still manage to eat you.

[rocky cosmos]

ooh haven't you been to heaven yet?

[frosty light]

he is????????????

[paper galleon]

wdym

[main glacier]

i think i accidentally did that mask shard almost flawlessly and my luck suddenly ran out right at the end and i realised "damn i dodged a bullet through most of that somehow"

[wind compass]

yk if you have the purple lightning tool you can chuck it into the water and it'll zap the entire water area and the sky? This means any enemy in the water gets zapped too, and I think it kills them

[onyx owl]

Trobbio doesn't do anything for game progression at all lol

[ornate torrent]

wait /genq what do you enjoy abt bilewater?

[leaden delta]

ok im opening double beastfly and doing it without cross stitch. i wanna do silkspear cuz that's the most fun one

[unreal sparrow]

time to experiment

[rocky cosmos]

best area

[frosty light]

why is he in speedruns, what

[vocal sky]

He’s much faster

[onyx owl]

I'm not sure?

[paper galleon]

bilewater isnt even that bad idk why so many people complain

[ornate torrent]

fastest way to get to vaultkeeper melody

[dusky sundial]

Then what's the workaround

[wind compass]

so you dont have to go to bilewater, go to shellwood and just chuck it into the water
you'll see the reaction

[frosty light]

🍀 would like to know how it goes, thinking of trying it eventually

[vocal sky]

I’m pretty sure it’s whiteward

[covert gyro]

YOOO

[opal folio]

I played like almost 30hrs now on Silksong and so far it was really great, but then i got to the absolutely dumbest Gauntlet in History of Metroidvania Games. The Gauntlet in High Halls. wtf did they think when they made this BS Room seriously. It is unfair, unbalanced and no fun at all.

[main glacier]

im not actually sure what trobbio unlocks. i assumed he was required for vaultkeepers melody but now i have no idea

[glossy surge]

Music and atmosphere are peak, the platforming and boss suck though

[frosty light]

theres a second way??????????

[unreal sparrow]

i mean i know the reaction i need to see if those jumping maggots die

[solar moss]

my goat

[wind compass]

YOU FOUND THE GOATT

[onyx owl]

Silksong feels like it's speedruns will take a lot longer than Hollow Knight

[covert gyro]

WHAT SHE do

[unreal sparrow]

yea wait i need to know as well

[main glacier]

that arena is an acquired taste. i hated it at first but you WILL get through it

[wind compass]

oh yea pls see I'm not sure if they do enough damage

[vocal sky]

Sell stuff

[glossy surge]

He drops a mirror that deals damage when binding shrug

[rocky cosmos]

visual design, lore design, atmosphere, soundtrack, ambiance, themes and criticism

[ornate torrent]

music is top tier, atmosphere is very atmospheric but im not a huge fan (i dont like dark areas lol)

[frosty light]

what the fuck i got stuck for like 5 hours in my playthrough because i didnt see the pathway on the right of his arena that let you progress and youre telling me there WAS another way???

[unreal sparrow]

not today . i m pretty exhausted i am gonna sleep now. gotta beat LL tomorrow ( steelheart )

[ornate torrent]

i mean those are all really good

[wind compass]

She's js the GOAT
gives us good tools and the key to one of the best crests in the game

[main glacier]

everything except the gameplay

[onyx owl]

I finished the game in around 30 hours and I consider myself a Hollow Knight veteran since I've been playing the first game since 2018

[glossy surge]

Bilewater enemies are a mixed bag imo, I only really have issues with the Stillkin

[onyx owl]

The only thing I like is the ost

[ornate torrent]

run is already sub hour so prob not

[rocky cosmos]

fr

[opal folio]

No sorry i spend already 4hrs without any progress. Got to the 2 Big dudes like 3 times and thats it. I dont know if im gonna continue tbh its just frustrating.

[onyx owl]

Literally

[covert gyro]

WTF THIS ALL DO? WHICH ONES GOOD

[onyx owl]

?

[wind compass]

they're already closing down on the time, I've heard any% are at 30 mins

[solid hamlet]

real

[rocky cosmos]

level design too lmao i forgor 😭✌🏻

[onyx owl]

They are all good tbh

[vocal sky]

First is pretty good, imo the other two are mid

[leaden delta]

should i allow sawtooth or nah

[unreal sparrow]

tool kit. and the sawblade i mean the wheel is good.

[wheat crown]

if u saw what i saw today can u pay for my therapy pls

[dusky sundial]

Red is pretty good

[onyx owl]

What.

[ornate torrent]

the any% speedrun is less than one hour

[solid hamlet]

cogwork wheel is insanely powerful with pollip pouch, buy the crafting kit and architect's key too

[onyx owl]

That doesn't sound like it's without exploits

[wind compass]

cogwork wheels pretty good
the tool upgrades also useful, and if you grab that key she has you can get the Architects crest

[ornate torrent]

idt its that low, maybe any% all glitches

[vocal sky]

With glitches it’s like 40ish minutes iirc

[covert gyro]

I FROGOT WHERE THE DOOR IS

[rocky cosmos]

NOT 30 min

[main glacier]

silksong leaderboards open in 4 days damn,.,.,..,.,

[wind compass]

WHAT DOOR???

[rocky cosmos]

finally tho

[unreal sparrow]

speedrun?

[main glacier]

yeah

[covert gyro]

ARCHIETECTS DOOR

[dusky sundial]

DON'T FROGET AGAIN 🐸

[stark path]

||twisted child ending actually sucked||

[unreal sparrow]

i need to get my first sub 2 hour ngl

[wind compass]

LEAVE THE WAY YOU GOT IN

[onyx owl]

How do you get it?

[charred tiger]

hi

[stark path]

||beat grandmother silk while under the curse for the witchs crest||

[rocky cosmos]

i will speedrun bilewater's area 100% 🙏🏻

[fathom raven]

Probably from beating the game cursed..

[unreal sparrow]

i am not great at speedrunning but i think i can get sub 1hr 30mins and thats good enough for m

[stark path]

WHAT

[rocky cosmos]

thats insanely good tbh

[stark path]

my best was 5h ;-;

[onyx owl]

Does it work similarly to delicate flower?

[wind compass]

give the twisted bud to the oldie in Shellwood, then accept the wish and get cursed
then beat the game

[stark path]

no not really ||you just cant heal or use silk abilites. You're also locked out of tools.||

[vestal spruce]

god i dont like nyleth

[unreal sparrow]

haha my best till now is like 2hr 10mins but i died A LOT . so no death i can def get it a lot lower.

[vocal sky]

No it takes all your tools, crest, and silk skills away (also no healing)

[vestal spruce]

granted im trying to use sunk cost fallacy and stickign with my witch crest build

[past ivy]

no matter what i do i cant fucking get to phase 3 of last judge

i'm actually gonna go insane this is frustrating me to the point where i might just stop playing

[onyx owl]

So is your save file forever corrupted if you do it?

[wind compass]

no, the curse isnt an object. It removes all your tools, and limits you to 3 silk notches and gives you Witches melee attacks

[stark path]

just keeeeeep truing

[vocal sky]

No

[unreal sparrow]

no. nothing happens to ur save file

[stark path]

it took a lot of attempts

[fathom raven]

The games been out for not even a month
How the hell are you this good gng

[onyx owl]

I mean can you turn it back

[unreal sparrow]

take it slow. learn the attacks.

[stark path]

its just a temporary thing, just beat the game with it before ||curing yourself||

[wind compass]

magma bell helps
try using flintslate as well

[past ivy]

i have and i have

[onyx owl]

So you can cure yourself

[stark path]

yes

[past ivy]

i'm not grinding for rosaries i'm too kazy

[onyx owl]

Does the ending get locked?

[dusky sundial]

Where are the giant jumping maggots?

[stark path]

if you dont do it before curing yourself yes

[rocky cosmos]

actually can SOMEONE explain to me why is nyleth SO MUCH HATED? like, its a super fun boss with a different (and well-used) mechanic and a STUNNING visual design... i dont understand why everyone hate her, shes not even difficult 😭

[unreal sparrow]

my friend is at like 200th attempt dont give up 💪 . ( 56hrs in game btw )

[fathom raven]

You can use magma bell for the last judge???

[stark path]

sorry who?

[vestal spruce]

i think its the combination of massive hitboxes and no platform

[onyx owl]

I was told getting to act 3 also locks it

[wind compass]

flintslates free, as long as you unlock the simple key door in Deep Docks

[dusky sundial]

Yeah, she uses fire . . . . .

[stark path]

for most attacks yeh

[vocal sky]

It locks the ending, not the curse

[unreal sparrow]

u should see some speedrunners 😭 they be doing under 1hr 1min now

[stark path]

probably? idk

[silent perch]

ALL IN FAVOR OF NAMING SILKSONGS SHADE SKIPS, SILK SKIPS SAY AYE

[wind compass]

yuh
makes her fire attacks deal 1 heart

[stark path]

nae

[wind compass]

already a thing

[rocky cosmos]

sub 1hr

[onyx owl]

How do you get to act 3 btw

[lapis hill]

In SS, is there a way to slash vertically down like HK does for pogos or only diagonally

[unreal sparrow]

we got sub 1 hr ?

[fathom raven]

I thought it was only for like platforming purposes😭

[silent perch]

its already called a silk skip?

[rocky cosmos]

me

[stark path]

you like bilewater?

[ornate torrent]

use a different crest

[vocal sky]

Later item

[onyx owl]

The game didn't give me instructions

[vestal spruce]

58:50 i believe

[unreal sparrow]

🔥 i knew it was the right choice to be your fan

[stark path]

is ||groal|| your fav boss too or smth?

[ornate torrent]

nebula iirc

[wind compass]

oh naming
I cant read

[dusky sundial]

Step 1
Don't die

[rocky cosmos]

lmao 😭😭

[umbral pivot]

i’ve made the switch yall

i’m a wanderer

[rocky cosmos]

yes a lot

[fathom raven]

Yeah but like… They’re life is silksong gng, they live for the song of silk

[hot cosmos]

lowk im bored ash any game recommendations

[wind compass]

silksong

[past ivy]

this is. no joke. MY 110TH FUCKING ATTEMPT AT LAST JUDGE

[fathom raven]

All of them forever?

[rocky cosmos]

flea juggle

[onyx owl]

Wanderer was interesting but I'm too used to Reaper to change

[solar moss]

hades 2

[past ivy]

i'm actually gonna go insane because of this boss

[wind compass]

bruh

[somber gale]

I LOVE POLLIP POUCH WITH COGFLY AND CURVECLAW!!
i beat the groal gauntlet quite easily with em

[unreal sparrow]

i am living and breathing silk song too now

[umbral pivot]

weighted belt + wanderer may change your life

[green kestrel]

"Is that shameful? A mother who would not sacrifice herself for her children to grow sssstttrong? Is it wrong to want? To witness their first flight, their first hunt. To see them kill, and grow?"

"Your choice is your own, tall mother. You won't be judged by me. I've seen enough sacrifice. I've no love for the act."

One of my favourite dialogues of all time, you get it if you finish her quest before Act 3

[onyx owl]

Ip ban this man

[vestal spruce]

alright

[hot cosmos]

what the hell is going on

[somber gale]

bro

[olive cairn]

took a break from working on my visual novel to remind you guys that hornet doesn't say shaw at any point during silksong (and i've been mad about it ever since the game came out)

[solar moss]

mods send him to the shadow realm

[rocky cosmos]

bro is again doing the same thing bro wth

[edgy gyro]

Bro

[slender thistle]

Bro what did i just open chat to

[wind compass]

@silver oak

[vestal spruce]

@pulsar trout

[rocky cosmos]

<@&283547423706447872>

[ornate torrent]

yeah we might need a ban

[olive cairn]

dude

[edgy gyro]

What is happening 💔

[lucid kayak]

Bro

[fathom raven]

Okay so, remember to dash…

[dusky sundial]

@sweet laurel well you're getting banned

[onyx owl]

Bro ran out of ideas

[olive cairn]

<@&283547423706447872>

[stark path]

<@&283547423706447872>

[wind compass]

as long as you have it equipped, yea

[past ivy]

yeah lets just ignore whatevers happening

[vestal spruce]

ggs

[edgy gyro]

<@&283547423706447872>

[stark path]

thanks bae

[rocky cosmos]

bro has TWELVE accounts to do the same stupid and boring thing 💔💔

[sage egret]

Groal is making me put a knife to my wrist

[solar moss]

y'know i think you might be right

[unreal sparrow]

dragonballs indeed

[dusky sundial]

A dash of what?

[rocky cosmos]

ty mods

[fathom raven]

Maybe I should then actually purchase it..

[stark path]

love ya mods

[wind compass]

yup

[hot cosmos]

the hell was that

[hollow path]

how do j escape the underworks?

[olive cairn]

oh stop it me too groal was so bullshit

[silver oak]

Don’t joke about shit like this

[grand kraken]

🐇

[onyx owl]

Go top left

[silent perch]

get enough fleas to move to fleatopia and do quests until the caretaker at songclave gives you the silk and song wish, keep in mind you cant do some things in act 3 so get those done while you can and after doing that just fight you know who, hope this helps

[rocky cosmos]

wow

[solar moss]

also please grind rosaries in act 2, rosary grinding in act 3 sucks

[lucid kayak]

Question: I can just move the save file to the folder and the save will appear, right? I don't need to download some application via GitHub like with Elden Ring?

[onyx owl]

So getting to act 3 locks you out of many stuff

[rocky cosmos]

real shi

[olive cairn]

DO THE UNDERWORKS ARENA BEFORE ACT 3 I AM TELLING YOU

[fathom raven]

But like, I kinda just brute forced my way through.. || have you freed belhart?||

[lucid kayak]

how?

[vestal spruce]

i cant imagine doing a second playthriough right after i finish thios one, yall crazy

[silent perch]

i alr grinded 5k and js bought everything before act 3 lol

[past ivy]

yeah

[keen kernel]

Im ngl i dont think ive enjoyed a single second of act 3

[vestal spruce]

im just glad that most likely by the time i finish silksong, ghost of yotei wil release

[ornate torrent]

the exact list of requirements is sort of complicated, you need to do most of the bone bottom/bellhart/songclave quests, buy all shakra maps, get the fleas to fleatopia, and do 17 other optional quests

[stark path]

what do I need to do before act 3? like what will I get locked out of

[keen kernel]

Its genuinely insufferable to play its so annoying

[silent perch]

locks you out of quite a bit yeah like sparring with shakra and other such

[rocky cosmos]

i feel like someone is traumatized😭😭

[vestal spruce]

locks u out of two minor fights with no rewards, and one ending, its not much

[stark path]

I think you need to do the rite of rebirth too which is why I wasn't able to

[onyx owl]

Is cursed ending hard btw

[fathom raven]

Up on the second to top house there’s a very important noc

[olive cairn]

the only thing act 3 brought upon me is dread

[stark path]

YES

[ornate torrent]

you don't

[unreal sparrow]

in my 170 hours adn 3 100% runs ( almost 3 as i am at LL at last one ). i still dont know where the damned garmond fight is

[past ivy]

ive upgraded my needle already

[fathom raven]

SO TRUE ISTG

[stark path]

😭

[olive cairn]

i died more times to that shit than almost any boss so far i'm so deadass that thing should be illegal

[grand kraken]

like 60 hours to 100%, 20h to do the steel soul 100% (in under 30h) and a few speedrun tries

[sage egret]

Whoever thought of groal should be tortured for 3 lifetimes

[hot cosmos]

just look it up on mapgienie man

[olive cairn]

DON QUIXOTE

[onyx owl]

I was told it's the hardest thing in the game after Steel soul

[keen kernel]

I know its dlc but i feel like its way too hard call it skill issue idc it feels so much more unfair im ngl

[unreal sparrow]

NOOO i wanna find it meselff

[past ivy]

let me change my nickname for this server rq....

[fathom raven]

Okay so, my only advice is like.. kinda bad. I can still try tho

[torpid moth]

how long would it take for me to do twisted child if i just rush to do the quests

[unreal sparrow]

hey

[olive cairn]

2 mask damage is so overused 🙏

[hot cosmos]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1396307753932427427/1410768323070918667/caption.gif

[sage anchor]

Im bouta crash out fr

[rocky cosmos]

lmao im sorry for you

[stark path]

probably not idk
||gm silk|| isn't that hard

[vestal spruce]

yeah this is crazy to me, imma be so burnt from this game after i 100%

[dire heron]

Before I do anything dumb, does completing the Trifold Melody and going up the elevator initiate the end sequence of Act 2? I wanna make sure I don't end act 2 so I can get stuff that I'll miss out on

[keen kernel]

And then getting hit drains your silk 🙏

[ornate torrent]

nah actually thats savage beastfly 2 /hj

[onyx owl]

Why did you yell yes then

[fathom raven]

Indeed, I hath become easily reckoned it appears. (I’m so bad at the impression istg)

[past ivy]

oh yeah this display name is way better

[olive cairn]

yeah like 💔 some of it is so unnecessary i'm sorry but

[slender thistle]

Would you guys ever want a hk 3 or leave it as is with just silksong dlcs

[stark path]

because it's hard just not the hardest thing. I struggled way more with savage beastfly

[olive cairn]

i keep seeing limbus fans in this server bro they're everywhere

[dire heron]

Chat

[torpid moth]

hk3 eventually

[past ivy]

hi

[solar moss]

it will lead to ||two bosses, however once you beat the final boss you'll still be in act 2 so don't sweat it, you'll be able to come back||

[rocky cosmos]

FR MAN 😭😭 and i discovered that he can also help you in the high halls gauntlet lol

[dire heron]

Alr thank you!

[olive cairn]

i'm not saying yall have a skill issue but is it just me who found both savage beastflies easy af..? first one took 2 tries while the second took 5

[somber gale]

when should i start act 3? are there anythings i could miss in act 2?

[hot cosmos]

hk3 in around 13 years

[stark path]

yes just you

[olive cairn]

WHY DO YOU HATE LAST JUDGE

[unreal sparrow]

TC really cooked in those 8 years

[fathom raven]

It’s lowk an infestation… Worse than the infection in hk

[torpid moth]

sbf 1 was hellish, sbf2 was really annoying but not that bad

[vestal spruce]

witch crest really needs a buff

[stark path]

fr

[olive cairn]

sbf 1 was easier than conchflies for me i'm sorry yall 😭

[round quarry]

What’s the dumbest thing in the game and why is it ||Seth’s record in flea dodge||

[fathom raven]

170 hours already? Are we like.. fr right now?

[turbid solar]

I would not want a game any bigger in scope than silksong. It's already pretty overwhelmning. I think The franchise is good where it is now.

[rocky cosmos]

nah

[unreal sparrow]

and beast

[grand kraken]

what kind? it's already really strong lol

[muted wave]

wtf is this, in this economy ???

[vestal spruce]

im done tryna beat nyleth with it, even if i get my heal off, im placed in such a bad spot, i usually take 1-2 hearts of damage afterwards

[rocky cosmos]

isnt mandatory

[hot cosmos]

[leaden delta]

oh i love beastfly 1

[rocky cosmos]

worst tool in the game

[copper ibex]

I don't need Garmonds help, Shakra is better.

[fathom raven]

Donating to the community

[vestal spruce]

slight heal range increase, or make her heal 4 hearts instead of 3

[keen kernel]

Im just tryna get all the fleas and i have to go through a new arena full of void ants and i keep getting cornered and ughh its so frustrating
And this room isnt even that bad i know theres so much worse

[unreal sparrow]

man i am cooked. although a few hours could be just from menu. like 10ish.

[rocky cosmos]

fr

[round quarry]

It’s the only thing I haven’t done tho

[vestal spruce]

is there no bench near nyleth like the other statues?

[lapis hill]

I FUCKEN HATE THIS GUYY

[olive cairn]

void bilewater gotta be the worst shit i've ever seen

[turbid solar]

How do you have so much free time

[leaden delta]

beastfly 1 is actually pretty good

[ornate torrent]

the only crest that i think needs a buff is reaper, but some ppl still glaze it a ton so prob not, the others are all well balanced except for wanderers which really needs a nerf

[rocky cosmos]

there isnt

[keen kernel]

Im ngl go out side

[uncut flint]

yo the ||encrusted heart|| gauntlet is A FUCKING NIGHTMARE OH MY GOD

[turbid solar]

I want that much free time as well

[rocky cosmos]

then lock in

[unreal sparrow]

😭 living and breathing skong outside of work

[fathom raven]

Do you have vacation or something

[uncut flint]

god fukcing damn ti

[torpid moth]

when did u fight it

[dreamy ruin]

Someone has like 300.. lol

[keen kernel]

Is there any quests there later down the line? I got all the fleas nd stuff

[tiny hamlet]

Act 3 isn't getting any better. I'm struggling with the fleatopia minigames for fuck sake.

[rocky cosmos]

reaper should deal higher dmg

[vestal spruce]

as a wanderers user, wanderers def needs a nerf, but witch just puts u in such risky situations witht he long heal that i feel like half the time the heal wasnt worth it

[olive cairn]

i had one needle upgrade, dash and that's kinda it

[turbid solar]

As do I. I only had like 6 days total where I couldn't play...

[unreal sparrow]

🙂 nope i just wfh so i just switch to silksong right after shift ends

[covert gyro]

HELPPPPP I AM LITERALLY STUICK THERES NOT WAY OUT

[fathom raven]

I haven’t visited that yet.. My mortal soul is not prepared, I’m scared for my life

[olive cairn]

there's some stuff after groal but it ain't mandatory

[ornate torrent]

as the premier reaper disser, it does

[torpid moth]

that checks out i only had dash and did it as soon as i found it, hunter’s march was my 4th area after deep docks

[rocky cosmos]

i have 228

[vestal spruce]

or even witch crest healing should give mayube 2 silk back

[coarse leaf]

What's the max amount of masks you can get

[ornate torrent]

witch hugely rewards learning when and where to healy

[olive cairn]

if you want 100% it's required but if not it becomes kinda useless after groal

[normal token]

10

[rocky cosmos]

aint? isnt it mandatory for act3?

[olive cairn]

i'm so stuck on act 3 final boss

[vestal spruce]

sure but most bosses punish u hard for being that still close to them for that long, even with injector, and when they deal double damage, u end up net gaining one health

[coarse leaf]

So I'm still missing 4 pieces dang

[dreamy ruin]

Your name is diagusting

[grand kraken]

fast travel spot here

[fathom raven]

That’s smart.. Unfortunately I got school with a one hour ride both ways there

[olive cairn]

after groal

[keen kernel]

Ngl i only really like witch in boss fights in general exploring healing can be super risky

[sharp abyss]

Update: I am about to crash out. Just died in Steel Soul on a part I've never died on before.

[turbid solar]

I'm good on silksong for now... stupid groal boss beat the fun and spirit out of me...

[vestal spruce]

and at that point, i think shamans just works better

[past ivy]

i fucking hate last judge so much

[dreamy ruin]

Only 100 lol

[round quarry]

It’s more rng based than locking in. Hence it being the dumbest part of the game

[covert gyro]

I CANTTT THERES WALL BLOCKING IT

[rocky cosmos]

nobody believes anymore in bilewater hate propaganda ✌🏻

[keen kernel]

Theres tutorials on youtube on how to cheese lowkey i recommend those if you dont have any pride

[dreamy ruin]

Get gud, shes easy

[olive cairn]

sigh

[past ivy]

i hate last judge

[normal token]

The people have woken up and realized bilewater is good

[ornate torrent]

is it just me who thinks that groal is the easiest boss in the game (yes it is cheese, but i feel like the game encourages you to discover the cheese)

[fathom raven]

Oh alright. Also, groal isn’t even that bad when you have the wreath of purity.. Though you should probably unlock it in bilewater

[rocky cosmos]

finally

[tiny hamlet]

No its not its God awful

[olive cairn]

isn't it in putrified ducts?

[vestal spruce]

deepnest >> bilewater

[grand kraken]

isnt there a lever or something that opens it

[tiny hamlet]

Agreed

[dreamy ruin]

Just because you cant beat her?? Thats a sign its a good boss lol

[rocky cosmos]

L

[naive pollen]

i realized since this game makes save backups you can reload you can save scum the speedrun achievement redoing segments until you are happy with your time with them

[unreal sparrow]

Altho it's reduced now. I mean most of my time is from week 1 and 2. Where I was playing 8hrs a day.its like 4-5 ish now

[past ivy]

i hate last judge

[fathom raven]

It’s good for the community, bad for the individual

[turbid solar]

It's not that he's hard. It's that to fight him I need to do the worst runback in HK history and then do the most boring enemy arena ever concieved and by then I am so locked out I die

[covert gyro]

NO

[ornate torrent]

if you take it patiently theres almost no chance you die to groal

[turbid solar]

But thanks for the help /srs

[rocky cosmos]

i was a fan of deepnest and it's my favorite area of hk but bilewater is much better in every aspect 💔

[olive cairn]

groal is the most bullshit fight in this entire saga

[dreamy ruin]

Cmon use some more words gamer, I believe in you

[fathom raven]

Which is a hidden area only accessible by beating groal or the memoriam.. So it’s kinda late game

[solar moss]

magma bell, don't be greedy and try to chill, being mad/frustrated will get you obliterated in a buncha bosses later

[naive pollen]

theres a hidden bench about halfway through the runback

[slender thistle]

Last judge was so fun

[turbid solar]

How are you people this patient

[past ivy]

i dont think you understood me

i hate last judge

[olive cairn]

true 😞 but if u go through memorium it shouldn't be as bad

[slender thistle]

I suck at last judge*

[turbid solar]

I am using that one

[fathom raven]

Have you considered the cog fly poison raid..

[dusky sundial]

He was hilariously easy

[unreal sparrow]

Can I flex that I never died to groal ( not even play through 1 )

[sharp abyss]

It's one of the shittier bosses in the game, but you've got this

[turbid solar]

Runback lasts about 30-40 seconds

[olive cairn]

i had no tool upgrades and no rosaries 😭 got them shortly after tho

[keen kernel]

Bilewater is prolly my favourite song in this game i like it

[unreal sparrow]

Bilewater enters the chat

[fathom raven]

It trivialized groal for me ngl

[lapis hill]

AM I supposed to beat this dude for some good obtainable or can I skip him for now?

[ornate torrent]

im a very impatient person, but GOD that runback scares me

[past ivy]

thanks twin
-# i still moderately dislike last judge

[vestal spruce]

nah deepnest does ambience, and difficulty way better without saying fuck you to the player

[fathom raven]

Valid crashout then

[dusky sundial]

He unlocks access into a new area

[dreamy ruin]

He unlocks a new area

[visual sinew]

Last judge is the genichro of silksong but with way worse runback

[sharp abyss]

yup, you literally can almost never hit him if you don't have the tools and tool damage/capacity to just spam tools him to death.

[ashen linden]

i need a dreamgate alternative 😭

[olive cairn]

SHITTIER?? bro i kept purposely dying so i could fight her again and again

[lapis hill]

but I jst found a new area called The Docks

[dreamy ruin]

NO SHES GREAT, JUST GET GUD

[olive cairn]

true it's so so bad

[chrome fable]

Pfft loser (me too)

[onyx owl]

Does all crests get upgrades like how spells become void spells in Hollow Knight?

[fathom raven]

He is purely optional, you can assess what’s behind him from a different area

[ornate torrent]

wait whats bad about the runback, its a little long but not particularly difficult

[ornate parrot]

Bro literally i have a custom skin of the quill

[dreamy ruin]

Theres alot of new areas, prob go to #sk-help or you'll see some spoilers

[rocky cosmos]

it doesnt

[fathom raven]

Was this on your first or second playthrough?

[unreal sparrow]

Yess I used conchcutter? Is that right. The drill throw tool. Eats like 70% of his hp. The rest. The other tool does it.

[dreamy ruin]

Nar go get purple

[olive cairn]

last judge is one of the only fights in silksong that isn't over reliant on rng, get good she's fucking amazing

[rocky cosmos]

flick the fixer is the goat

[ornate parrot]

second, i am speedruning the game

[unreal sparrow]

Idt anyone getting trobio quill play through 1

[brittle whale]

ikr

[vital epoch]

Couriers rashion wasn't that hard, I got it second try, almoat first. Are people really having that much trouble with it or is it the vocal minority?

[ornate parrot]

there is other?

[fathom raven]

She’s so fun ngl, yet she’s tough to get the hang of

[grand kraken]

Still hating bilewater in 2025

[turbid solar]

If I fall in bilewater it takes a good while longer if you wanna be prepared. like a good minute or two. Then in the arena make sure to be a good girl and stand around a lot while you wait for enemies to jump out of water. Then stand around and wait for the slowest trap in history three times and then and ONLY then can you refight groal

[sharp abyss]

it's got a godawful repositioning move, that is almost as bad as the one from Gray Prince Zote in the first game and you can literally get hit when she uncrouches herself. She's also definitely got a boss runback that fits somewhere in the top 10 of this game's worst runbacks.

[olive cairn]

i purposely died to her at least 10 times

[rough nexus]

Forebrothers signis and gron are harder than grandmother silk

[grand kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/pinksviral-stantwt-sigh-ugh-gif-2168133244603762036

[fathom raven]

Ah alright then, still impressive

[dreamy ruin]

Yuh, trobbio two

[olive cairn]

the runback is so fun too but that might just be my love for pogoing

[fathom raven]

Especially the purple one

[ornate parrot]

lol

[dreamy ruin]

Yessir run back to judge was not bad at all

[unreal sparrow]

A lot of people have a hard time grasping the movement also if u don't have the double jump it becomes a bit harder not too hard just a teeny tiny bit

[olive cairn]

YEPPP U GET IT

[vestal spruce]

god nyleth is frustrating

[edgy steppe]

Most people complain about double damage, I complain about zero fucking knockback on the little fry.

[naive pollen]

meh by the time they both spawn signis is at such low health tool spam will get rid of him leaving just gron

[rough nexus]

It took me 10 tries to beat bell beast and 5 to beat grandmother silk

[fathom raven]

Why would you do that

[olive cairn]

i was so happy to do the runback when i died ngl

[foggy tapir]

guys why did silksong update on my switch?

[past ivy]

and i die yet again

-# i.. love?? last judge??? no thats not right

[rocky cosmos]

fr man bilewater hate propaganda fell off

[rough nexus]

I have no shards

[hard knoll]

tbh i dont get the complants regarding diagonal pogo its peak though I do admit its slightly janky

[olive cairn]

so i could do the whole thing again cuz we have no godhome 💔

[unreal sparrow]

Ngl I wanted to wait for it. But I didn't wanna risk that in steelsoul so I just went with red

[fathom raven]

Facts though.. Just without the dribbling of ding defender, and charm of Grimm or something

[vital epoch]

Thats fair I guess, im good with the movement and I love hunters pogo, I kinda suck at fights though.

[turbid solar]

I miss godhome so much...

[open dirge]

i love how phantom and last judge are hard act 1 bosses but if you progress through act 2 after beating one of them the other becomes a pushover
(the last judge is a 2% slightly tougher pushover)

[turbid solar]

P5 sounds like so much fun rn

[frosty light]

shrue...........

[foggy tapir]

your just bad at duo bosses

[olive cairn]

pls pls add godhome, i wanna do gms and last judge and sister splinter again

[naive pollen]

the real challenge would be signis and gron kill gron before signis because its so hard to not kill signis first

[fathom raven]

That’s… I respect the dedication

[turbid solar]

Literally anything but this sounds like it would be more fun

[keen kernel]

Ngl whenever god home comes out im not caring about the pantheons majority of bosses in this game are horrendous im not gonna lie

[rocky cosmos]

fr

[unreal sparrow]

I am gonna go back to hk after this again and beat p5 finally 🔥

[olive cairn]

and second sentinel I LOVE SECOND SENTINEL SOOOO MUCH if they don't get merch i'm gonna DIE

[fathom raven]

Did you just utter the words steal soul?

[frosty light]

wait what would pantheon of pharloom all bindings be like would you have no skills attached to your crest

[olive cairn]

thank you

[turbid solar]

You can do it! Stay dedicated!!!

[rocky cosmos]

ragebait used to be believable

[frosty light]

shaman crest found dead in a ditch

[keen kernel]

Im being so deadass

[unreal sparrow]

Steel heart* at ll rn

[foggy tapir]

second sentinel vs grandmother silk

second sentinel wins

[olive cairn]

absolutely

[naive pollen]

screw garmond and shakra i wish second sentinel could join in the conductors gauntlet

[open dirge]

THERE IS steel soul in this game and YOU HAVE TO beat it to get achievement(s)

[turbid solar]

Make it past Markoth and the rest is easy

[fathom raven]

I miss mantis lords gng

[rocky cosmos]

what are your favorite bosses?

[sharp abyss]

yeah, grandmother silk is the only boss in the game I somehow managed to beat first try without dying once on my first playthrough. She's not much harder than the Hollow Knight in the original, but those two are a different beast, they sucked quite a bit, especially with how sunfairly short the first brother's telegraphs were sometimes.

[olive cairn]

genuinely yes bro i need more sentinel content so fucking bad

[rocky cosmos]

cog dancers better

[nocturne grail]

How do you get here?

[foggy tapir]

pale king emoji?!?!?!

[forest gulch]

what was the name of the ||perverted flea guy||?

[leaden delta]

God I hope not

[unreal sparrow]

Break walk x2

[keen kernel]

The basic ones like lace, second sentinel, phantom, the spider bosses

[fathom raven]

That’s not what I meant.. I meant that I haven’t even beaten true ending yet, and you’re both speedrunning and hardcore running?

[olive cairn]

mantis lords goat

[split urchin]

Kratt

[foggy tapir]

kratt

[vocal sky]

Kratt

[open dirge]

now i want that THAT SOUNDS SO COOL

[leaden delta]

that sounds so fucking boring

[forest gulch]

thank you all!

[olive cairn]

omfg i see it 💀

[unreal sparrow]

No lifing silksong fr

[open dirge]

kratt

[split urchin]

Fuck Kratt btw ruining the hallowed name

[turbid solar]

And to think we almost completely agreed for a while over so many things... Heartbroken rn.

[fathom raven]

They’re more gimmicky, yet I appreciate mantis lords for being so no bs and fair

[limpid frigate]

im so confused by the story in act 3?? ||why are the snail shamans like a neutral party that are letting me get the everbloom even though they caused the void to take over and want it to end the world?||

[foggy tapir]

guys with the shit ive seen might aswell ship groal with hornet at this point

[fathom raven]

I’m so proud

[olive cairn]

ty for spoilering i still need to do ||lost lace||

[sharp abyss]

alr, time to edit my Steel Soul save file to rez, lol. That death was BS, and I'm having none of it.

[naive pollen]

7/8 so Seths inhuman levels of ability in the flea games has been driving you insane too?

[turbid solar]

Wait... Cog Dancers better than Mantis Lords... but Sisters of battle?

[olive cairn]

super final boss spoiler

[olive cairn]

u don't need to beat seth vro

[foggy tapir]

lets put em all in the same arena

[fathom raven]

He do be inhaling.. (idk)

[normal token]

||They wanted to get rid of GMS but what ended up happening was not what they planned due to Lace stepping in so they're helping Hornet||

[vocal sky]

They thought gms would just die, she didn’t and caused the void bs. I’m pretty sure the shamans didn’t want it to happen but they also don’t really care iirc

[foggy tapir]

he do be eatin me..

[leaden delta]

||Thats cuz their goal isn’t really to end the world, they just had a means to an end. Hornet wants to revert it, so they’re like “shit aight we can help u ig”. they don’t really give much of a fuck||

[open dirge]

mental insanity

[turbid solar]

NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN

[foggy tapir]

no way you play hollow knight/silksong on the switch?

[fathom raven]

DLC OPTIONS

[limpid frigate]

oohhh ok

[nocturne grail]

Where

[rough nexus]

Ralsei target meme = signis

[turbid solar]

I did actually but PC is my home. 'Tis a meme phrase

[rocky cosmos]

IM SORRY but cog dancers ost and its 4th phase makes the bossfight better than mantis lords for me (even tho i love sisters of battle)

also the fact that they cant just teleport in you ✌🏻💔

[fathom raven]

And spewing out balls of soul…

[turbid solar]

HK switch version is actually not that bad

[covert gyro]

WHYS MY SILK THING TOP LEFT SMALL? I COLLECTED LOTS OF THEM THINGS AND T WAS LONG

[ornate torrent]

cog dancers better than mantis lords for me but its way less fluid than sob so

[vocal sky]

When you die you lose it temporarily

[foggy tapir]

what if the godhome of pharloom lets you add bosses to a different ones boss

(cogwork dancers and the dark souls boss, the fourth chorus)

[brisk walrus]

Notice anything wrong with my controller

[grand kraken]

you need to get your cocoon back

[clear spoke]

What's wrong with it? I mean, I don't have a Switch, but I feel like playing HK and Silksong on the Switch must be more comfortable.

[turbid solar]

Okay but you're on thin ice

[somber gale]

Can you still do the delivery wishes after starting act 3?

[foggy tapir]

i play on it :D

[fathom raven]

I haven’t listened to cog dancers, yet I still randomly hum the mantis lords breh, it’s so goated istg. The only hard part of cog dancers is the second phase imo. They are kinda fun though. I lowk need god home to try them more

[open dirge]

why is that left trigger like that

[naive pollen]

||they did not expect grandmother silk to fight back they thought shed accept her fate and tbf she wouldnt have fought back if it wasnt for lace falling it causing her to cling to life in a vain attempt to save lace just allow the void to take control of her silk. They more are thinking hornets quest for the everbloom isa fools errand but let her try anyways. They did not want this apocalypse to happen||

[clear spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/dap-dap-up-bully-maguire-spiderman-homem-aranha-gif-2038310814613101264

[foggy tapir]

idk i havent been to bellhart cus of this F U C K I N G B E L L E A T E R

[brisk walrus]

Uh, long story. (I threw it across the room a few times)

[turbid solar]

Don't do that

[foggy tapir]

laced fucked up and now void is everywhere

[strange night]

Lock in twin

[clear spoke]

So, could you confirm if it is more comfortable to play on PC or console?

[vale tide]

favorite silk skill?

[brisk walrus]

Wow, I had no idea

[fathom raven]

Team cherry.. Hire this man as the fourth part.. (radiance and || gm silk || )

[open dirge]

the bone bottom and pilgrims rest is no more because both of them got slimed
there's survivor's camp now

[foggy tapir]

oh FUCK pc i like console

[ornate torrent]

cross stitch

[rocky cosmos]

sisters of battle is actually much more satisfying to fight against but i still prefer the cog dancers because of the aspects that go beyond gameplay and difficulty but i feel that in the future godhome dlc of silksong the cog dancers will have an equivalent to sisters of battle also without being the clover dancers (pls god🙏🏻)

[empty flume]

You know in hindsight what’s the widow lore

[open dirge]

ok

[foggy tapir]

would be an interesting fight

[vestal spruce]

why did they make the top of nyleths arena spikes as well, thats so annoying, it makes even pogoing on her annoying

[fathom raven]

Plus with x box you get the game pass value

[foggy tapir]

im on the switch

[fathom raven]

Would probably have to be nerfed radiance though..

[open dirge]

a weaver that got ultra fucked up

[empty flume]

Sameeeee

[naive pollen]

thread storm once you know it can be extended by mashing the cast button its by far the strongest spell especially with shamans crest + volt filament

[coarse leaf]

Bruh, my friend sent me a vid on GMS vs Pale King: Who's the Better Parent and the worst thing is, that vid is mine, why does this shit get recommended to people 😭

[foggy tapir]

uh no we need the absolute radiance wtf you on bro

[strange night]

Well you're misinterpreting them. ||They don't want void to end the world lol. They wanted it to kill grandmother silk, ending the world is just an unforeseen consequence||

[ornate torrent]

either a weaver cast off by the other weavers or a weaver tortured by gms into full submission, anyhow she's basically gms's d1 glazer

[empty flume]

Okay but who did that to her? How is she still alive? Why does she serve Grand Mother Silk?

[dry jolt]

i beat the coral tower gauntlet first try today felt pretty damn good

[turbid solar]

I think if that third cog dancer fight happens I may actually change my mind as well

[fathom raven]

Haven’t tried the switch.. OH MY LORD PORTABLE SILKSONG

[foggy tapir]

portable SHAW ❤️

[open dirge]

idk she's just ultra fucked up

[empty flume]

Today I got all the mementos

[ornate torrent]

nice pfp btw (:

[turbid solar]

Not to be that guy but... steam deck...

[hollow path]

i have one hour to finish the game and i just killed ||cogwork dancers|| do yall think i have enough time?

[fossil reef]

just got the craw summons from the bench next to karmelita, kinda scared me ngl bc i didnt know what it was at first

[strange night]

Shaw isn't even in silksong, fake fan

[empty flume]

Thanks

[naive pollen]

tell me about juggling some flees why dont you

[ornate torrent]

forgotten land was a pretty fun game except for rare stone grinding

[empty flume]

Portable Garama

[dry jolt]

if you sprint the melodies maybe lmao good luck

[vocal sky]

No but try anyway

[fathom raven]

You know what, why not make any radiance an actual part of the game AND throw her in with five savage beastlys

[ashen linden]

can someone give me a small hint on the 3rd line of Passing of the Age?

[slender thistle]

Silksong!!!!!