sk-discussion

[elfin oasis]

Oh, and until you got your mobility upgrades and want to focus on collectibles fully, only use your rosaries on Bellways, Ventrica system and if it saves you a run back. If you can save up enough to get the boomerang when buying the fractured mask, that obviously would be worth so you don't have to return later.

[wind horizon]

?

[lapis hill]

OK WHAT

[dull cape]

your messages are not more important than everyone else's. stop abusing caps and markdown.

[stiff tide]

[celest orchid]

FA! RE DOO LA SEE LA DAY!

[alpine crest]

No like this is literally a peak tierlist
LAST JUDGE IN S TIER TOO?
LACE 2 in S?
Moorwing high A? Shakra high A? Last

Pinstress in A tier? This is literally just the tierlist

[slender thistle]

All ill say is make sure you check for shortcuts to open after rooms because there will be one eventually

[shell bough]

IT’S CALLED RETURNING THE ENERGY AND YOU’RE WELCOME

[native canyon]

groal would be cooler if he said "IT'S GROALING TIME!" every time he dived into the water

[rain socket]

she's an annoying piece of shit💔
she's basically a squatcraw with a dash attack

[vapid moss]

dont really like sakamoto days but i love osaragi shes too cute to be a killer 😭 ❤️

[wise flame]

Boss tier list (only the bosses i liked)

[alpine crest]

this channel explicitly states that all spoilers are allowed

[west flint]

aw ok
WOW! TH

[wind horizon]

Phantom deserves her own tier ngl

[native canyon]

every time people validate my opinions I get stronger

[alpine crest]

wow
genuinely believably ragebait 💔

[patent bear]

Hornet is a scumfuck douchebag for what she did to ||Green Prince||

[west flint]

well i dont read im sorry 😔

[slender thistle]

First sinner criminally overrated

[wise flame]

Not

[alpine crest]

play undertale

[manic tree]

I DID IT
||I BEAT LOST LACE||

AND ||SHADE KNIGHT/SHADE LORD CAMEO TOOO?!?!! THAT MAKES EITHER TRUE OR GODHOME CANON FOR THIS ENDING||

[noble nacelle]

just fought act 4 final boss (it was a toughie!)

[patent bear]

I hope the knight kills her next game

[rain socket]

your tierlist is GARBAGE

[wise flame]

It looks so ugly

[rocky cosmos]

stop capping

[lilac ore]

Oh hello!

[west flint]

you might wanna hold ur green when i say this

[native canyon]

extremely loud incorrect buzzer

[ripe trench]

Ye the head is funni

[alpine crest]

so

you're an undertale fan?

[rocky cosmos]

W

[west flint]

can I just spam witch down slash on enemies

[wanton terrace]

I'm in there

[nimble scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-gif-9388384639890532829

[harsh sorrel]

this could be some top tier ragebait if it was actually ragebait tbh
2 of the most hated bosses in S tier with karmelita on A to not hurt credibility too much

[upbeat pilot]

Nah bro that fight was so good I was hyped when it had a phase 2

[native canyon]

that doesn't make me weaker you didn't find a loophole, that still makes me stronger you fool

[wind horizon]

Unironically goty just for the knight cameo

[west flint]

yes
i grew in the undertale au fandom back in the day

[lilac ore]

Bill do be a super hard boss indeed

[harsh sorrel]

so true its like top 10 at most

[manic tree]

fr

[rain socket]

fuck you

[shell bough]

it’d be the roaring knight of silksong

[alpine crest]

That would explain the illiteracy (I say as an undertale fan)

ALSO SAME, I still get traumatic flashbacks whenever I'm reminded of that stuff

[bold mountain]

anyone else want a sherma boss fight

[native canyon]

pfp is hyperdeath asriel right

[slender thistle]

You might wanna hold your bladder when i say this

[wise flame]

It really isnt

[noble nacelle]

yeah bro the attack where he does every void attack at once was kinda annoying to get the hang of

[errant lynx]

No

[harsh sorrel]

his pfp is literally asriel

[shell bough]

hell no that’s my shayla

[lilac ore]

If you want, but this crest have other cool moves

[slim quest]

man seth pisses me off

[slender thistle]

You do in act 4

[native canyon]

piles of asriel's dust

[alpine crest]

to be fair I am blind

[west flint]

explain

[rain socket]

horse

[wind horizon]

Also doesn’t it mean that all of the kingdoms share one abyss so pale king didn’t just lock up his children in his basement but he actually just threw them in a shared basement with his neigbhors

[harsh sorrel]

far fields, path to karmelita

[nimble scaffold]

we love tier lists we love tier lists

[noble nacelle]

far fields east (act 3)

[patent bear]

Both dream no more and embrace the void are valid endings

[median grove]

for the fellow speedruners here do you use windows 10 or 11

[alpine crest]

is that fucking simon
Is that Simon Lightbringer, the Divergent Star of Lumière?

[west flint]

fuckin dreamer sans and nightmare sans kissing 🥀

[lilac ore]

I recomend you to have a fully maxed needle for this. A lot of people got frustrated with it

[manic tree]

the abyss is just the bottom of the world it wasnt connected to hallownest or anything

[native canyon]

we love tier lists don't we folks

[alpine crest]

as soon as anyone mentions glitchtale I literally start suppressing memories 💔

[slim quest]

yes it fucking is 🗣️ 🙏 🔥

[patent bear]

WHICH MEANS RADIANCE GOT FUCKED AHAHAHA

[dull cape]

is one theory

[wind horizon]

Yeah I guess, makes sense

[alpine crest]

WOOOOOOOOOOO

Love that guy so much, easily one of my favorite fights in all of video games

[west flint]

yk what screw it
why is trobbio going super saiyan purple

[slim quest]

same i love him aswell

[rain socket]

TIERLIST

[noble nacelle]

half of these are either normal enemies or minibosses what is going on here

[alpine crest]

parrying phase 3 long combo is some of the most fun I've had ever

[jade pier]

Do I really have to do The Mist every time I fight Phantom?

[slim quest]

but i think thats pretty self explanatory lmao

[manic tree]

abyss and cradle in c tier? 0/10

[nimble scaffold]

because he's emo

[lilac ore]

Dash attack is cool, and witch crest have good range and you know, it's betetr to not just pogo for flying ennemies. Also the charged attack make you spin (last for longer if you mash the button)

[west flint]

I used to eat that stuff up wayy too much 🥀

[dull cape]

--> #undertale-discussion

[wind horizon]

to be fair our solution to fix the radience issue actually becomes an issue in a different kingdom

[rain socket]

im going to fucking beat you to death

[slim quest]

thats how i finished my first win against him. parried the full combo and counter attack killed em

[west flint]

okay so I cant use it for the bilewater boss, got it

[nimble scaffold]

greymoor appreciation i love to see it

[wind horizon]

There’s a bench in organ

[light swan]

dash attack deals twice as much damage btw

[alpine crest]

tfw undertale comes out but you're so young you don't understand anything beyond "hehe sans has funni lasers" and you gobble up 5000 slop aus 💔

[median grove]

who here uses winodws 10 and who uses 11

[cerulean sable]

But last full bullet point to summarize:

Arena:
Arena spawns are always consistent, once you know who spawns who on each round, you know who to kill first
Charge your Needle Art then release the moment they pop out, you know where they spawn out based on the obvious splashing water
Big tall hats spear chuckers are easy and free, literally pogo them to death
The blowpipe guys are a bigger threat, but again if you use your charge nail attack you can kill them when they spawn. Spawn camping is the basis of all arenas
The spike balls will never hit you if you hug the doors on either side

Groal:
Groal is slow as fuck, ironically below the arena is safer despite the maggots, but can you still keep it safe
His suck (mathematically) is more of a net benefit cuz you can get 5 hits inside him
If not, you can throw a pimpillo during his suck and he will get staggered by it
During his Vengeful Spirit attack, always anticipate 3 blast at the minimum, just hug the wall and wall climb to dodge it
Dont get greedy, your best time to attack is either after the suck or his typical acid blob spit, you can hit him around 2-3 times during it
Dont bother fighting against the enemy spawns during his fight, they will despawn (and sometimes the spikeballs will kill them)

[wanton terrace]

Oh, I've got this but I'm doing 5 bosses and switching between each one

[errant lynx]

Imma sleep
This is the work I got done today

[west flint]

https://tenor.com/view/im-from-the-cityyyyyy-gif-4548670119770313438

[rain socket]

good night, little ghost

[median grove]

ragebait?

[burnt patrol]

NOOO iwas so close to 4 digits..

[light swan]

oh shit theres another witch crest enjoyer

[native canyon]

fire bilewater arena guide holy shit

[nimble scaffold]

no

[slender thistle]

Guys im hungry

[wind horizon]

I don’t think one hit on you equates to one hit on the boss mathematically…

[cobalt vector]

Wisp thicket in s ? What

[rain socket]

HOW

[shell bough]

this is insane

[shut glen]

is there a way i can skip groal? i hate him

[rain socket]

wisp thicket is peak you don't understand

[nimble scaffold]

bounce is so fun

[rocky cosmos]

holy L

[slender thistle]

No 😔

[noble nacelle]

why is everybody so good at bounce???? wr is like 1750

[median grove]

what is bilewater doing in s

[burnt patrol]

it isss

[nimble scaffold]

it was far too small to actually have an impact

[rocky cosmos]

hi twin

[west flint]

you forgot one

[alpine crest]

good lord

I managed to close it out with a maelle gommage (I didn't do any oneshot build or anything since I wanted to enjoy the fight, so I think it did like 4 million damage?), but it took me like maybe 20 refights before I finally fully parried the phase 3 long combo

Really hope Clair Obscur wins GOTY, but this is like the one year where it's not guaranteed to lol

[lilac ore]

Actually this isn't the max needle level, there's on more, and you get it with a quest

[coarse leaf]

WHAT

[burnt patrol]

bounce is definitely the easiest one
i'm going for that wr

[nimble scaffold]

it's simply my favorite

[celest orchid]

Underworks is the Deepnest of Silksong. Change my mind.

[cerulean sable]

Afaik the groal suck will do a minimum of 2 mask damage to you,
but you can hit him internally at 5 times at the minimum + other misc stuff which means you can heal for 3 mask

meaning if you play it safe and properly you can out do his damage and even get a netgain out of it

[native canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[west flint]

thank you sire

[distant tartan]

Grand mother silks second phase is tough ash

[rain socket]

I don't like the underworks ngl

[median grove]

Bile water is not a good are in my opinion

[cerulean sable]

Again, assuming you do the strat where you intentionally get yourself sucked

[nimble scaffold]

HI TWINNNN

[noble nacelle]

dude good luck man i think the vid was like 30 minutes 😭

[rain socket]

garbage area

[wanton terrace]

where is da quest ? maybe I'll need it this time

[wise flame]

Crest viability tier list (tested vs lost lace)

[burnt patrol]

how do i get there??

[nimble scaffold]

WHERE IS THIS

[coarse leaf]

Where can i reach that place I'm interested

[alpine crest]

underworks gave me trauma because I thought that that one arena room guarding a silk spool was necessary to progress 😭

[jade pier]

Is there a bench near phantom???

[rain socket]

SAME

[wind horizon]

you CAN however do something funny with beast crest bind and outheal him while inside of him

[distant tartan]

I love getting intentionally sucked

[light swan]

no bias at all :D

[coarse leaf]

Damn guys Im feeling amazing rn

[burnt patrol]

45 minutes, yeah..

[native canyon]

I detect some bias here

[west flint]

silksong dlc coming in 20 years

[slender thistle]

Architect is not viable unless you are a billionaire

[rocky cosmos]

what 😭 silksong's deepnest is wormways bru

[tawny palm]

also if ur close to him when he spits, the blobs miss u

[wise flame]

I mean hey its a consistent first try

[cerulean sable]

Seriously the only biggest enemy is literally the blowpipe shitters, the tall hat guys are literally free soul motherfuckers only know how to throw downwards lmao

[coarse leaf]

SHAW

[lapis hill]

fuck this mf

[alpine crest]

I was literally about to cry (not even Groal got that bad) until I watched a video and it turns out I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AREA THE WHOLE TIME???

[austere cliff]

no but you might not be doing everything possible to make that run easier. got the hidden bench? got purity thing for maggot water on the way? using silkspear and cogfly for free easy damage? etc

[slim quest]

i hope it does aswell and i think it should. had way more fun with e33 than silksong even if i did longer sessions of skong. if skong wins then its cuz of the volleyball raft minigame in e33 existing and if e33 wins its because of bilewater lol

[rocky cosmos]

[light swan]

skill issue imo just get good at the other crests

[cerulean sable]

yeah thats a good tip too

[distant tartan]

Lmfaoo

[lilac ore]

The reaper crest hate is clearly forced

[wind horizon]

nah bell beast is my boy

[slender thistle]

How could you

[distant tartan]

Its just the worst crest you could choose ngl

[native canyon]

I kinda wanna get started on the speed completion but it sounds so boring I won't get to fight my precious boy green prince 😭

[alpine crest]

also honestly e33's soundtrack is lowkey 10x better than skong's

[rocky cosmos]

39 dps btw 🥹

[celest orchid]

wormways is the crossroads of skong

[wind horizon]

who’s a good puppy

[cyan pewter]

screw bosses, trap tier list (sneaky pollip pouch in the pocket)

[west flint]

architect is for rich boys who wants to enslave clankers to do all the work for them
beast is for mashochists who loves pain

[wise flame]

Nah

[dull cape]

if you have not completed silksong then you will get major major spoilers in this channel.

[rocky cosmos]

holy L

[noble nacelle]

yeah i dont love it but im not boutta start hating on it if you like it you like it

[errant lynx]

Aight I'm out

[jade pier]

is there a becnh near this bitch

[west flint]

wait those are ALL the traps in the game?

[noble nacelle]

dude my pb is like 90 😭

[coarse leaf]

I play a bit and im agree that spike trap is a really good one

[rocky cosmos]

there is

[cobalt vector]

Go back to the broken elevator then go left

[cyan pewter]

hell no just the ones i unlocked theres like 9 more or sum

[light swan]

witch crest is a consistent first try to me too :D i beat lost lace on ascended twice yesterday

[alpine crest]

yes
to the left in that big room with the shortcut right at the start of exhaust organ

you're not gonna need it though, so dw

[lilac ore]

It's the best one for flying ennemies, and it doesn't have the basic heal mechanic unlike the witch crest. Also the best pogo for platforming

[distant tartan]

Those are TOOLS

[coral quartz]

congrats on beating ur first real boss! they just removed the spoiler rules in the server tho so if ur THIS early in the game you dhould leave to avoid spoilers

[austere cliff]

yeah it's weaker for dps but i dont get why hating it is such a meme. reaper strengths are just easier traversal and range for newer or casual players

[wind horizon]

I love how half of these aren’t traps, tacks is one of the best tools in the game and flintslate literally gives you 60% more dmg

[coarse leaf]

Its raining here and I saw a gurl ( looks like she has 20 yo ) without anything to cover from water, so I shared my umbrella till she find a safe place to stay while the rain goes, then she asked my name but I couldnt answer her cause Im too shy and she is just too much beautiful

[wanton terrace]

@lilac ore I got it ! it's at ||fleas||

[cyan pewter]

shhhhhh

[errant lynx]

IMOUT

[west flint]

ohh okay phew
I taught I already 112% the game

[light swan]

silkshot my beloved i love just fucking the bosses from 50 miles away with an insane amount of damage each time

[junior pond]

After doing it first try, my 2nd playtrough is now finished

[cyan pewter]

tacks arent..... sneaky tacks in the pocket

[lapis hill]

why did they tf?

[slender thistle]

I JUST BEAT MOSS MOTHER FINALLY LETS GO

[coarse leaf]

I love your pfp lmao

[west flint]

time to cry for the beast boss

[lapis hill]

yeah thx for the warning

[patent jacinth]

GOOD LORD SHES NAKED

[rocky cosmos]

hot take flea's juggle is the best flea's minigame

[gloomy fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-gif-13612391308574250563

[cyan pewter]

fr feels like my doing a hollow purple type shi

[coral quartz]

thats prolly why theres hate. ppl see it as a newbie/casual trap

[rain socket]

wtf💔

[light swan]

theres a reason why most players use reaper for a majority of their playthrough lol

[waxen latch]

That happens often

[alpine crest]

tbf reaper crest has the worst dps out of any crest (technically deals 82 while shaman deals 81, but shaman also has 3 silk skills and a big buff to them, while also having longer range soooo) and if you don't bind a lot it also has horrible silk gen, so the hate isn't exactly forced

[wise flame]

Well done

[visual sinew]

What is a pb?

[rain socket]

mods....kill this guy

[coral quartz]

its been 3 weeks since the game came out. i wouldve waited one more week but still a very reasonable time frame imo

[patent jacinth]

WHAT

[noble nacelle]

personal best

[cyan pewter]

elite knowlage required

[alpine crest]

Une vie a taimer > any silksong track

[rocky cosmos]

personal best

[wild canopy]

bro why is every hollow knight tiktok edit using the same fan made scenes with that weird ass brazilian song

[rich tree]

do i need double jump to do mount fay

[waxen latch]

You like looking at naked bugs or what?

[noble nacelle]

because tiktok

[lofty harness]

@elfin oasis thanks for the advice, hopefully i can do this first run

[lilac ore]

Edit : sht, I didn't readed it's against a specific boss

[scarlet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-bell-beast-hornet-i-fucking-love-my-dog-gif-16253163473145257201

[dull cape]

stop pretending like dps is one single thing, this isn't a machine gun game

[burnt patrol]

no

[cyan pewter]

tiktok is jus weird like that

[junior pond]

The build i used

[hot rock]

Guys I'm at 94% comletion, got all mask shards but am still missing two red and one blue tool. im pretty sure im practically at the end of the final act. Any in game way to find out where i might be missing stuff or should i just ask for tips for the final few %

[rocky cosmos]

isnt
but 2x prob is

[austere cliff]

honestly i think it's commonly used because of how unforgiving the hunter down attack is. when you get reaper as your second crest (possibly) it's like thank god there's a normal easy attack i can use to nail bounce

[coarse leaf]

[native canyon]

eira mention!!!!

[real spindle]

Is Karmelita the biggest ragebaiter in Silksong? She had me second guessing my movements by the end

[wise flame]

Pretty sure itd be the same

[rain socket]

sane

[wind horizon]

Architect crest is batman build, by far the best crest but just costs a shit ton to use and that makes it annoying

[native canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/bell-beast-hornet-silksong-flip-attack-gif-13099701778097836936

[drowsy hazel]

obligatory compass to find lace (she is lost)

[cyan pewter]

how do yall have the lil extra space in the left middle??

[light swan]

wait till you get on architect crest, pollip pouch voltvessel spam

[noble nacelle]

dude i hit exactly 1.25 times per second and am always within range of the enemy, i have consistent dps

[scarlet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silk-song-game-shuffle-dance-gif-4070226195247709979

[gloomy fjord]

Hornet doing hearts

[junior pond]

ofc

[hollow patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/712804541883744286/1415295757585616956/ezgif-2d53033cc779d0-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[visual sinew]

We have a leaderbord for the flee games ?

[cyan pewter]

omg wait i have the perfect thing for ths

[dull cape]

you're inventing a specific scenario and then applying a generic "dps" term over your specific scenario

[celest orchid]

Underworks is full of terrain jumpscares, has an unsettling/ominous musical score, creepy set and enemy design/lore, can suddenly trap you with a nasty fall that you have to fight your out from to get to the rest of the game, has a similar color palette, and is packed to the teeth with sharp spines and thorns that want to kill you

[dull cape]

I can invent a scenario where wanderer's crest gets literally zero DPS while reaper's crest gets nonzero DPS

[rich tree]

how do i keep going up

[junior pond]

Memory Locket

[cyan pewter]

there we go

[timid plinth]

i didnt free the green prince

[noble nacelle]

beast crest has best dps

[light swan]

REAl

[gloomy pilot]

My game keeps crashing in belheart when im entering a loading zone to the main room

[wise flame]

Might be the 10th time ive heard that

[shell bough]

*favorited*

[drowsy hazel]

it costs four hundred thousand shell shards to fire this weapon for twelve seconds

[burnt patrol]

go down, there'll be an exit to the left there

[real spindle]

At least wanderer's crest has the best pogo for combat

[cyan pewter]

made that shi in paint myself too😭

[gloomy fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-funny-animals-hard-day-bad-news-bear-sad-times-gif-10112696

[lilac ore]

Dps isn't the most important thing, it's how often you can hit the ennemy + how much hits you can get during these times

[light swan]

witch and shaman crest have the best burst damage dps :D

[vernal ivy]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[wind horizon]

It’s true tho, architect is just busted as shit

[dull cape]

pretending like DPS is a single thing is stupid, gamers need to stop trying to pull nuance out of every single thing in gaming

[rich tree]

ah ok, thought it would js take me to the start

[elfin oasis]

The only other thing I can say is prioritize getting your nail upgrades as best you can (though maybe get an extra mask or two before you attempt the cook). Reducing boss fight duration just means less chance for mistakes.

[scarlet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollowknight-silksong-hornet-hornethollowknight-gif-10617463812383711620

[tacit sentinel]

Bell puppy pets

[noble nacelle]

wanderer has best normal attack dps

[alpine crest]

the thing is that stuff like wanderers crest has 20% higher DPS, much better silk gen (much faster attack speed, meanwhile reaper's crest needs you to bind and then you have 10 seconds of actually good silk gen)

reaper crest is good for safety but otherwise it's basically just outclassed by all the other crests for specific stuff

want range? shaman
want insane dps? witch, wanderer or shaman
want safety? shaman
want to erase the thing standing in front of you? architect
want silk generation? wanderer
want to silk spam? wanderer or shaman

[wind horizon]

eh architect by far if you count tools

[light swan]

hear me out guys maybe all crests are good, some are just better, and we should appreciate them equally

[slim quest]

oh theres no debate there

[wise flame]

No like “architect is a batman build”

[real spindle]

What makes wanderer's crest outmatch most crests is the fast downward swing reset

[austere cliff]

green prince one of the biggest disappointments for me in skong

[candid gyro]

is there any merit whatsoever to the 2 silkshots that aren't "the best one"

[silver knoll]

Does anyone else think that the clawline should give you a swinging option?

[noble nacelle]

nuh uh

[gloomy fjord]

Reaper crest pride

[rain socket]

wanderer crest does insane dps

[rocky cosmos]

underworks best silksong's area absolute peak

[noble nacelle]

what

[light swan]

can we abolish crestism someone please ban crestism

[wind horizon]

yeah I know I’m not original 😅

[rain socket]

with palesteel needle

[alpine crest]

une vie taimer is the best song I've ever heard in any video game by far and this is lorien testard's first time composing for a video game

I want whatever that man is on

[real spindle]

It has the smoothest pogo to use in combat cause it has almost no pause in between downward swings

[cobalt vector]

Boss tierlist sees kratt

[rain socket]

WHY IS VARGE AND KRATT THERE💔

[dull cape]

stopped reading at "20% higher dps" because it ignores actual reality which is that "DPS" constantly varies by game state

[scarlet laurel]

guys can I just say that I don’t care about Architect’s Crest and that just brute force every fight with Wanderer’s and Spiky Trap thing

[noble nacelle]

true actualkly

[junior pond]

What do i do after completing peak for the 2nd time...

[light swan]

eva should be higher

[austere cliff]

they should give reaper a small bump in some way. maybe less hits to stagger. it could use a little love

[rain socket]

mooshka should be s tier

[harsh sorrel]

how do you even do that

[noble nacelle]

nah bro i hit at a consistent rate without pausing or missing wdym

[silver knoll]

Reaper just needs to do more damage per hit lol, that's literally it.

[austere cliff]

reaper is supposed to have "heavy" slashes but there's nothing heavy about them

[lapis hill]

ts mf is mad geeked

[slender thistle]

Are styx and huntress related to each other in any way

[crystal plume]

Reaper is probably the most used crest overall

[wild canopy]

Am I cooked

[rain socket]

WAIT A MINUTE...NO

[junior pond]

10/10 would also smash green prince

[harsh sorrel]

nah that tier is reserved for the true goats

[light swan]

i cant belive the ant merchant guy isnt higher too

[alpine crest]

range barley matters because you can just... use your insane mobility to be able to reach them

also longclaw exists
you can basically get reaper range by using wanderer + longclaw
and as for reaper + longclaw just play shaman instead

[manic flower]

what games do you guys recommend after hk and ss

[real spindle]

You just dont see the goal for father of the flame

[native canyon]

favorite silksong moment

[harsh sorrel]

the only time i say him was his dead corpse i cant really have a say on that

[dull cape]

stop standing still fighting test dummies then, or you need to write that that's the number you're measuring, and then you need to convince me that number actually has the signifance in this game that YOU place on it

[potent vessel]

sprintmaster swift too low

[alpine crest]

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
best game I've ever played

[harsh sorrel]

idk he's not my type

[noble nacelle]

bro its ragebait im sorry 😭

[alpine crest]

if you're specifically talking about metroidvanias, then Nine Sols

[carmine kraken]

Silksong was an amazing experience

[celest orchid]

I highly respect it for what it is, but they did succeed in making it unpleasant to be in

[rain socket]

hollow knight ARABIC TRANSLATION????

[austere cliff]

i think it's fine to have the easy to use crest be the lowest dps. faster staggers could make reaper feel "heavy" without taking away from the aggressive crests

[rocky cosmos]

groal hate propaganda in september 26 💔

[real spindle]

He got more sauce than green prince

[junior pond]

Sprintmaster is a twink dude

[lilac ore]

Second sentinel and the unraveled are un(censored)able I would say

[cyan pewter]

no comment

[light swan]

idk, will it into existence, if you believe hard enough itll happen

[harsh sorrel]

i love groal as a boss but the thought of doing that with groal is awful

[potent vessel]

hes buff asf

[light swan]

no second sentinel is the cutest mf in the game

[rocky cosmos]

no. is awesome.

[junior pond]

Buff twink

[dull cape]

people equipping compass in this game when they have more yellow tools than slots... they should be studied

[rain socket]

peak emoji

[drowsy hazel]

dps isn't everything, since we're not just standing in front of a boss and spamming attacks the entire time. for example if we can get 2 hits on a boss with reaper crest after every time they attack, but we get 3 hits with wanderer each time, that's +50% damage.

[potent vessel]

whaaat is that a thing

[harsh sorrel]

sherma wasnt in the tierlist to begin with, wouldve put him on the grey tier

[junior pond]

Sprintmaster

[rain socket]

[waxen latch]

[potent vessel]

no!

[junior pond]

Yes

[austere cliff]

yeah like every runback makes me mad because i hate runbacks. groal was one of like 3 runbacks i didnt mind idk. i guess i just bought into the "runback and gauntlet is part of the boss" thing for once in my life

[noble nacelle]

[potent vessel]

😱

[frigid cape]

i think im nearly dont wiht act 2 i got all spoon frags now all mask all fleas i think i nearly bought all vendors trhough but i need the third pale oil and i need some things like all mosberries

[alpine crest]

And yes, reaper crest has better range, but hornet has insane mobility
there are not a lot of times, atleast vs some of the harder and more aggressive bosses, where you actually need the larger range of the reaper crest

[waxen latch]

[gloomy fjord]

Bro is hating on the coolest boss in silksong, on par with elden ring bosses….

[grizzled thunder]

how come all the hard bosses are physically attractive

[celest orchid]

personally my favorite areas are either Choral Chambers or Memoriam (Lost Verdania half-counts)

[rain socket]

random screenshot go!

[vernal ivy]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[noble nacelle]

not again...

[carmine kraken]

@rain socket your crucifixion on this server interests me to join it

[celest orchid]

I was so scared

[frigid cape]

is it for 100% all memory lockets ?

[rain socket]

emo

[drowsy hazel]

groal and ass jim 😻

[celest orchid]

I thought that it was going to be a Jonestown situation or something

[harsh sorrel]

technically yeah since you have to bind eva

[potent vessel]

his moustache looks like his eyes here

[dull cape]

I too can craft scenarios supporting whatever my POV is, reaper can hit 3 enemies with 2 pogos in less time than wanderer's crest can hit 1 enemy with 3 pogos, so that's double the "DPS"

[rain socket]

??

[vernal ivy]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[cyan pewter]

were dis get and what dis do?

[limber kelp]

Druid eyes

[rain socket]

okay, cool

[noble nacelle]

random screenshot go

[grizzled thunder]

mmm....

[celest orchid]

but for like, summoning the Nightmare Heart (given the whole flea circus theme)

[potent vessel]

very cool

[limber kelp]

4 mossthingies to moss wizard

[rain socket]

WHAT MADLINENE

[frigid cape]

bruhhhh mann i hate this bro how should i know if i got most memory frags and where

[light swan]

are there any universally enjoyed crests out there that arent hated or overrated

[cyan pewter]

nuh uh

[noble nacelle]

dude its act 6 spoilers

[harsh sorrel]

this hollow knight: silksong screenshot is so cool

[frank spear]

I hate u vog

[rain socket]

I like his moustache ngl

[real spindle]

Wanderer

[limber kelp]

Woah

[noble nacelle]

LMAO I LOVE YOUR NAME

[rain socket]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S MADELENA

[alpine crest]

and no, this isn't a machine gun game, but why not just... attack much faster?
Hell, reaper isn't even that much better at binding than wanderer, because wanderer can just generate silk at a blindingly fast rate
and you can just dash to get it

and hell, you can dash for a microsecond and attack with your nail to essentially kara-cancel, which nulls the range

if you are fighting a boss who actually moves, you are going to be up in their face, and then the range of reaper doesn't matter, while the horrid dps & silk gen does.

[carmine kraken]

Another random screenshot

[cyan pewter]

clear diffrence twin

[placid obsidian]

howd it get bigger

[cyan pewter]

thats what im asking dawg😭

[light swan]

idk i hate that crest and i think its overrated

[manic flower]

this part was fun af

[potent vessel]

i hate fleadodge so much

[junior pond]

"random" screenshot go

[drowsy hazel]

how is this just crafting scenarios? isn't this how most boss fights go?

[noble nacelle]

random screenshot go ACT 6 SPOILERS

[austere cliff]

wanderer is the most well rounded crest imo especially after you get longclaw charm to mitigate it's short range

[harsh sorrel]

best cutscene in the game tbh

[junior pond]

I typed that with 1 hand

[frank spear]

I hope Vog gets eaten by those trap plants in putrified ducts🥰

[potent vessel]

😩

[waxen latch]

😏

[stiff tide]

It’s one of the best actually. Hunter and wanderer are the two best

[carmine kraken]

Bilewaters music makes me forget how miserable that area was

[nimble scaffold]

random screenshot go act 9 spoilers

[real spindle]

Once you get used to airdashing during bossfights the range difference between wanderer and reaper barely matters

[austere cliff]

wanderer's only downside can be fixed with blue tools (range)

[dull cape]

you people just NEED to play silksong like it's hollow knight and not actually leverage the unique traits of crests, you just want to stand beside 1 enemy at a time and spam slash

[rain socket]

RANDOM SCREENSHOT GO! (seth is a flea confirmed)

[harsh sorrel]

fraud tomorrow

[noble nacelle]

yo i havent made it there yet really???

[swift ocean]

Do I complete all required quests first or get the fleas first to unlock act 3

[alpine crest]

the difference is that you are going to be attacking one boss a lot more than you're going to be hitting 3 enemies, at least in boss battles (and tbh any crest except for witch is basically equally good at exploration)

[nimble scaffold]

i need it NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[carmine kraken]

I didn't use wanderer because I wanted to play something that isnt hollow knight 1

[rain socket]

RANDOM SCREENSHOT GO! (act 25 spoilers)

[celest orchid]

imo the game got a bit old when they added a dating simulator with quicktime events

[noble nacelle]

random screenshot go ACT 15 SPOILERS

[alpine crest]

Oh what unique traits? the range? should I just stand away from them and hit them? while I could just go closer to them and hit them more?

[carmine kraken]

I mostly switch between beast, hunter, witch and shaman

[drowsy hazel]

you don't need to do anything first, there's no order for it, do it how you wish

[rain socket]

HOLY SHIT YOU'RE FROM THE TERRARIA SEVER

[alpine crest]

the silk generation? first you have to spend 9 silk, so good luck spamming silk skills with it

[celest orchid]

Anyways I stan the Reaper crest

[alpine crest]

reaper is great for safety and whatnot, but it just doesn't reach the same highs as the other crest

[light swan]

im not gonna lie i love wanderer either way but longclaw is such a small benefit that it feels puny either way lol

[celest orchid]

Situatuonally at least

[chrome folio]

cool I guess

[austere cliff]

reaper is fine for early/mid game traversal imo

[frank spear]

Random screenshot go ACT 21 SPOILERS

[crystal plume]

Reaper crest enjoyer here

[faint berry]

where do i go

[gilded sigil]

WRONG WRONG WRONG

[native canyon]

just made the worst tier list of all time conceptually, it's how much every npc gives me gender envy

[real spindle]

I would say Wanderer's crest is still more conducive for air time when trying to pogo enemies, the weird pause that reaper has after each down slash ruins it for me

[carmine kraken]

reaper has a great down pogo

[compact elbow]

are there ANY bellbeast stations in the citadel??

[snow raft]

This post made me laugh because of how true it feels.

[drowsy hazel]

what are you looking for?

[celest orchid]

yeah, in essence; it is consistent which I value a lot

[potent vessel]

RANDOM SCREENSHOT GO (act 0 spoilers)

[chrome folio]

Hollow Knight is sooooooooooooo slow

[celest orchid]

more heals/skills and safer traversal is a hell of a combo even with some significant other costs

[gloomy fjord]

Average bilewater hater, bilewater is fun buddy, groal is a good boss.

[crystal plume]

Reaper sprint attack has so much aura

[noble nacelle]

random screenshot go WATCHER DLC SPOILERS

[faint berry]

idk get soemthing so i can do the missions in beel heart

[nimble scaffold]

random screenshot go ACT 54 SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cyan pewter]

rate my hours in silksong?

[dull cape]

presumably you are not one of the ones making lists of "DPS standing still and slashing on cooldown" numbers and turning that into arguments about which crests are "better" or "pointless"

[alpine crest]

why have a consistent crest when you can use a crest with higher highs and learn the fight?

[junior pond]

Youre a Psychopath

[native canyon]

I'm not falling for that shit!

[drowsy hazel]

which mission?

[rain socket]

RABDOM SCREENSHOT GOOO! act 29 spoilers

[cerulean sable]

Yes but the good news is the reward is that ||the only thing it majorly provides is literally access to Act 3, no other upgrades. So if youre gonna go to Act 3 anyway its one of those "save the worst for last" once youre almost completely kitted out||

[noble nacelle]

what platform even

[alpine crest]

or well that's prolly too far

yeah, no, I get what you're saying

[gloomy fjord]

Maybe, but I feel like more bosses should have been like groal

[nimble scaffold]

you're my goat

[light swan]

i never played hk on pc only switch but honestly theres no way the wanderer range is the same as the hk range lol thats actually unfathomable

[cyan pewter]

my friend has this amount of hours in cs:go of all things😭

[real spindle]

I'd still say Wanderer is definitely better at handling a lot more enemy types than Reaper

[faint berry]

great bell bellheart is the only one left

[celest orchid]

what's this about learning fights? I use Hunter for bosses

[cyan pewter]

steam

[timid ridge]

The fleas are in the ducts area.
Ive done all the town quests.

but the act 3 quest still hasnt shown up. Am i missing something?

[native canyon]

are people just posting random screenshots and saying they're from silksong now

[gilded sigil]

yeah idk the context I just woke up and decided rage

[celest orchid]

Silksong is like 80-90% traversal

[rain socket]

yes

[alpine crest]

oh, you're talking about reaper for non-bosses?

[light swan]

yea this is me and why i love all crests equally, but especially when playing through the game and youre trying to beat things safely reaper is still a good option

[rain socket]

PABLO TIERLIST

[drowsy hazel]

Maybe explore Bellhart and the areas near Bellhart? Surely there's places there you haven't explored fully yet.

[waxen latch]

RANDOM SCREENSHOT GO!! (act 26 spoilers)

[wanton terrace]

they don't want to play with me, why ? they're all here

[celest orchid]

Not using tools designed for traversal because you have big fights sometimes seems folly

[real spindle]

The only real struggle I had with wanderer's crest are the big puke worms in the abyss and that's because of their weird forward hitbox

[nimble scaffold]

random screenshot go ACT 93 SPOILERS

[light swan]

what are these teir lists based on / about

[alpine crest]

fair, then

though then basically every crest works the exact same except for witch & beast

[rain socket]

on how cool the npc is

[odd tree]

does little pilgrim survive if i just don't sit on the bench at bone bottom after killing skull tyrant

[light swan]

ah alr good lol

[noble nacelle]

RANDOM SCREENSHOT GO ACT 32 SPOILERS

[drowsy hazel]

Lol I was a Mark of Pride + Quickslash user, basically Reaper but Wanderer attack speed.

[normal token]

Act 0 spoilers
||I've been hearing difficulty complaints and... I don't get it? This lil fucker was incredibly easy to beat||

[rain socket]

mooshka mentioned

[gilded sigil]

this is why I don't replay most games, it's only fun to traverse this much the first time

[native canyon]

those guys are funny to pogo sometimes but the fucking stupid ass gloomsac or whatever is so annoying

[dull cape]

yes, wanderer's crest is basically the button for "i want simple play, and i want shorter boss battles" & "i write bad reviews if this game punishes my hollow knight muscle memory"

[alpine crest]

that 10% is what kills you the most, I find

[gilded sigil]

normalize filling levels to brim wih enemies in NG+

[waxen latch]

RANDOM SCREENSHOT GO! (act 108 spoilers)

[light swan]

they all have vastly different playstyles even if theyre mechanically the same

[stiff tide]

New diet, what do we think?

[noble nacelle]

yo what game is that

[austere cliff]

sadly we have no attack speed boost to fix reaper unlike longclaw to fix wanderer range

[nimble scaffold]

RANDOM SCREENSHOT GO ACT 1 SPOILERS

[wanton terrace]

he don't want to, I don't know why ?

[waxen latch]

Red dead redemption 2

[lilac ore]

How suggestive...

[native canyon]

why are people so backhanded towards wanderer, SAY IT WITH YOUR CHEST OR NOT AT ALL!!!!!

[noble nacelle]

ahh

[real spindle]

Yeah, not funny anymore when it decides to spawn those flying nightmare fuels

[nimble scaffold]

DUTCH

[potent vessel]

how do i get the lost sinner mod

[native canyon]

I THINK REAPER PLAYERS SHOULD HAVE THEIR SILKSONG COPIES REVOKED WITHOUT A REFUND

[frank spear]

Not rly, here's the secret silksong menu screen found in the files btw

[stiff tide]

I AGREE

[dull cape]

i feel like what I said is pretty direct, and I've been more specific about it in the past 🙂

[rain socket]

??? are you in act 3

[carmine kraken]

There were a lot of great moments in silksong but this one was my favorite

[potent vessel]

grrrr

[faint berry]

aight

[rain socket]

FR

[austere cliff]

that area was my bilewater

[alpine crest]

or it's the button for "I want to have an aggressive fight where I have to constantly mind my positioning"
vs a good boss, you don't need to use a bunch of smoke and mirrors; a simple crest lets you focus on the fight itself and its intricasies (intricacies? idunno) imo

[native canyon]

not direct enough

[stiff tide]

Here’s a drawing of my dog

[junior pond]

Reaper crest detected

[wanton terrace]

yeah

[native canyon]

IF YOU PLAY REAPER CREST YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND SILKSONG

[rain socket]

how many fleas do you have

[nimble scaffold]

act 5000 spoilers real

[frank spear]

Looks like an early design of an undertale enemy

[noble nacelle]

ACT 4 SPOILERS JUST BEAT THE FINAL BOSS!!!

[rain socket]

THIS

[junior pond]

You can skip one of em if you get the heart of green prince

[gloomy fjord]

I have played with reaper crest ever since I got it.

[drowsy hazel]

REAPER IS THE BEST CREST, WANDERER IS ASS. IF YOU USE WANDERER YOU BEAT ALL THE BOSSES TOO QUICKLY BUT WITH REAPER ALL THE FIGHTS TAKE SUPER LONG SO YOU CAN SPEND MORE TIME ENJOYING THE GAME.

[nimble scaffold]

I LOVE HIM

[cyan pewter]

im looking to switch to architect instead of reaper u think i sould

[stiff tide]

😭

[noble nacelle]

and how far have you made it

[rain socket]

fuck y

[rigid bolt]

Been rocking hunter crest since the game released

[gloomy fjord]

💯

[light swan]

i LOVE wanderer crest but i hate it on the inside

[real spindle]

You can simply just not use tools bro

[wanton terrace]

I got this, I don't know if it means I've got all of them

[junior pond]

You did

[rain socket]

oh...

[carmine kraken]

I used all crests except for wanderer

[light swan]

man thats blasphemous

[native canyon]

IF YOU LIKE REAPER CREST YOU'RE THE TYPE TO SAY MARVEL MOVIES AREN'T THAT BAD

[rain socket]

restart the game rn

[cyan pewter]

they sould highkey 100% buff this

[frank spear]

Say that again...

[gloomy fjord]

About to enter act 3 now(I also only use needle slashes)

[celest orchid]

I am unsure of what to think of Wanderer's, didn't use it outside of that skull tyrant boss in Bone Bottom because I had just got it and couldn't switch off. Was certainly effective but not very novel

[real spindle]

Absolute cinema

[noble nacelle]

ok fair

[drowsy hazel]

I'm sorry, maybe it's a skill issue on my side, but I can't beat any bosses without my Compass.

[celest cairn]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss I just beat ||grol|| ||without wreath of purity|| is that impressive?

[cyan pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/pen-gif-23499473

[carmine kraken]

Where did the reaper crest copypastas come from?

[nimble scaffold]

i love pablo he was such a hard boss

[wanton terrace]

ok I'm restarting

[dull cape]

this is literally true, easy modes cause people to spend less time learning and internalizing, and they make things less memorable, later.

[stiff tide]

What an insane cope “uuuh reaper creat is the best because it sucks and makes the bosses longer do you can enjoy them more” just say you have horrendous taste in crests famalam 😭 🙏

[alpine crest]

that's what the barbed bracelet is for

[rain socket]

mooshka not s tier, die

[austere cliff]

reaper crest is for players who dont need a damage crutch to complete silksong

[celest orchid]

I used Reaper extensively until like mid-Act 2 at which point I both got gud and got enough nail upgrades that Focus became a worthy thing to cultivate

[stiff tide]

As you should

[nimble scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/minos-prime-ultra-kill-ultrakill-prowler-meme-prowler-gif-3786873416559560912

[distant tartan]

I beat the game with 6 masks, no tools, 1 crest and 5 spools.... Did i get like the really fast ending?

[frank spear]

The slave roleplayer in the wife category

[native canyon]

reaper players are the type to watch paint dry and post a review about it on letterboxd

[real spindle]

Wanderer's crest feels so good with dash spamming

[rain socket]

REAPER WORST CREST

[lilac ore]

Random screenshots asides, here's a cool fact
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FeRiik0g_Vk

[nimble scaffold]

i love him he want me

[carmine kraken]

The reaper crest hate is really funny

[celest orchid]

Still switched to Reaper for pogo and traversal challenges (Mr. Mushroom quest end, Flea Bounce) in which it carried like it always does

[light swan]

me too, exclusive reaper user until i got witch and then i just used witch and wanderer for the rest of the game

[noble nacelle]

guys is this too much

[dull cape]

imagine having no ability to discern irony

[nimble scaffold]

he's my man wife

[loud spindle]

guys i think ther is a bug in the coral tower when i try the architect crest it take my shars but dont repare my stuf

[stiff tide]

I’m aware bro Dw 😭 🙏

[rain socket]

wanderer crest is PEAK, witch crest is cringe

[noble nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090643779121319999/1415808381180186736/attachment.gif

[coarse leaf]

Bugs, I'm only about halfway through the first act, can you tell me what this skull is and when you get that??

[native canyon]

if you like reaper crest I'm stealing something out of your house!!!!!

[rain socket]

fractured mask

[austere cliff]

have you no whimsy or humor in your life

[nimble scaffold]

guys stop arguing witch is the best crest

[drowsy hazel]

You can get it in the first act from Hunter's March.

[light swan]

😢 this is bullying and abelism

[wanton terrace]

I've restarted, he doesn't want to make games for me don't know why
I've talked to mooshka

[rain socket]

if you like reaper crest you're going to hell!!!

[stiff tide]

Me when I’m trolling

[grand horizon]

I like reaper crest because it's fun :)

[austere cliff]

do i have to get cursed to get rid of this coughing baby

[waxen latch]

Its an item, its pretty much just a better health point, its from far fields

[light swan]

exactly you get me

[crisp bronze]

Anyone from Poland guys??

[rain socket]

well kill mooshka this one time

[real spindle]

Reaper crest is so bad that the normal swing is better than upward swing for anti air

[slender thistle]

I LOVE REAPER CREST‼️‼️‼️‼️

[wild monolith]

Seller in hunters march sells it its saves you from death once and comes back when you sit on a bench

[carmine kraken]

The shaman crest was the closest one to beating my favorite but it could not

[nimble scaffold]

bro doesn't know about the nuke

[native canyon]

reaper crest fans are the type to say invincible's animation is good

[stiff tide]

https://tenor.com/view/electrocuted-spiderman-electric-electric-chair-sidwaj-gif-11251985251036031173

[noble nacelle]

random screenshot go ACT 100 SPOILERS

[cyan pewter]

the duality of man is loving or hating reaper creast

[wanton terrace]

too strong, I can't kill him in front of all of those cutties
but you know why ? is this a bug of the game ?

[light swan]

i love reaper crest (it sucks and i hate it)

[coarse leaf]

Nice :0

[torpid rover]

UGH I HATE ||coral tower|| SO MUCH

[nimble scaffold]

real witchheads go crazy for this one

[austere cliff]

someone sent a clip of me using reaper crest to my boss and i got fired from my lucrative job. thanks a LOT skongers

[coarse leaf]

And how can i get it?

[frigid cape]

can i get anything for running wiht loam or just 1 rossaire

[alpine crest]

yall, how infuriating is lost lace?
And is she a good-enough fight to warrant doing with barbed bracelet?

[cyan pewter]

ok dawg i alr changed it to or😭

[dull cape]

focus is tough to cultivate IMO, many people are probably not gonna achieve the theoretical value, but you're not wrong

[drowsy hazel]

Meanwhile in HK we could just do Mark of Pride + Quickslash lol.

[stiff tide]

Deserved

[carmine kraken]

Witch is a fun crests

[celest cairn]

||Fuck grol and his rip off vengeful spirit|| hahahahahahahahahhahahahaaaaa

[noble nacelle]

which?

[alpine crest]

I have heard nothing but "lost lace is the best fight ever designed" and "lost lace is 10x worse than groal"

[slender thistle]

Witch crest is goated

[native canyon]

this is misinformation, we all know reaper crest users would NEVER have a job

[rain socket]

Skill issue

[wild monolith]

Theres a seller behind a secret wall in hunters march i think he sells it for 250 rosaries

[carmine kraken]

witch which of the witch shall it be

[frigid cape]

can i obtain anything or not exept 1 roasire

[noble nacelle]

dude wait do people actually not like ll??? she legit really fun

[drowsy hazel]

She is the final boss, if you have skill issue it will be very hard.

[coarse leaf]

Ok, i will look for it, thanks!

[austere cliff]

nonsense, they have 18 jobs and 25 kids and use reaper crest because they have only 4.66 minutes per month to play games

[slender thistle]

Well apparently i missed this

[drowsy hazel]

Lore.

[celest orchid]

true, especially the +2 Hunter's maximum

[nimble scaffold]

she's really fun imo but the last phases are really chaotic so the projectiles are hard to see

[light swan]

i beat her twice with barbed bracelet witch crest yesterday

[frank spear]

It's my second fav fight after karmelita

[lilac ore]

Random screenshot go (ACT 3065 SPOILERS)

[drowsy hazel]

It'll go crazy for hitless runs though.

[native canyon]

people that say lost lace sucks sound like this

[stiff tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1016447862764212274/1315770733212995669/image0.gif

[alpine crest]

barbed bracelet it is, then :D

[dull cape]

FYI using clawline gives you 2 progress to focus like 2 needle hits

[celest orchid]

It feels so nice but in Act 3 it is kind of a crapshoot and also not nearly as effective

[noble nacelle]

18 jobs total from all reaper users

[light swan]

my goat

[real spindle]

That's honestly most good fights in Silksong, they just start mixing two attacks together and it gets chaotic

[vernal ivy]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[coarse leaf]

Sometimes i want pet him like this

[cyan pewter]

this chat is quite literally ''i hate x boss or creast'' no ur wrong ''i love x boss or creast''

[austere cliff]

[celest orchid]

Yep, clawline might be my single favorite combat ability in comfortable fights

[rain socket]

grindle is the BEST boss in silksong ngl, I don't like karmelita

[light swan]

im so happy witch crest is universally loved and has no haters

[waxen latch]

Yes

[noble nacelle]

[stiff tide]

Nope

[austere cliff]

IGNORE the coughing baby

[native canyon]

4.66 minutes per month to play games and because they use reaper they barely get past 1 room in silksong with their alotted time

[cyan pewter]

yeah at the great yarnaby

[coarse leaf]

Silly

[vivid matrix]

ive beaten act 3 and still dont know where to get fractured mask

[nimble scaffold]

act 5 billion spoilers

[noble nacelle]

zany*

[drowsy hazel]

Finish Hunter's March.

[rain socket]

LMAO

[slender thistle]

This isnt hk thats Minecraft

[austere cliff]

yeah true i didnt think that one through

[nimble scaffold]

you know it king.

[dull cape]

when people start complaining about choir bellbearers and spit squits hit em with the

[rain socket]

terraria calamit

[coarse leaf]

Just silly

[noble nacelle]

why is it "elderZ"?

[distant tartan]

This game felt a lil too quick for this to be the ending

[waxen latch]

I dont get the hate, i have beat the whole game with it

[frank spear]

Exactly. Every annoying flying enemy is begging to be clawlined

[slender thistle]

Whats clawline

[coarse leaf]

Cuz why not

[celest orchid]

Absolutely. For that matter I suspect that once people get good at minmaxing and avoiding hits, stocks in Beast and Hunter's will rise a lot due to DPS optimization

[nimble scaffold]

i personally love when the boss fights are chaotic and demand good reaction time but during LL's last phase the ||floor tentacles|| were quite difficult to see

[drowsy hazel]

You can beat the whole game with any crest. You can beat the whole game while cursed, that doesn't make it any better.

[austere cliff]

gms should have 2 of those poison spitter flies from putrified ducts spawn every 6 seconds

[noble nacelle]

z for zany

[strong oak]

guys how can i find shanka after act 1

[rain socket]

I hate this emoji KILL IT

[lilac ore]

Oops, I forgot to remove something to make it 10000% more credible

[waxen latch]

But why the hate?

[dull cape]

--> #ss-shitposting

[native canyon]

AND IT TOOK 150 HOURS‼️🔥 🗣️

[noble nacelle]

[stiff tide]

GMS SUCH a baddie bro

[carmine kraken]

My crest tierlist(totally not biased in any way)

[rain socket]

wanderer crest is better than reaper

[celest orchid]

I don't know if they will ever beat out either Wanderer's or a Witch crest bind bomb build but they have lots of optimization room

[drowsy hazel]

Because it's weak.

[still prawn]

Fun fact the elevator at halfway home is the only one that can fit hornets entire sprite without her needle clipping through

[waxen latch]

Fair enough

[slender thistle]

—> #what

[native canyon]

crestless is better than reaper

[rain socket]

disgusting abomination

[strong oak]

guys how can i find shanka after act 1

[noble nacelle]

beast crest at #1 is criminal

[coarse leaf]

We need a emote/sticker for bell beast like

[austere cliff]

because it's the zamn face prob

[celest orchid]

*at doing damage

[rain socket]

spit squits are better than reaper

[nimble scaffold]

beast at s is so peak

[onyx kelp]

what

[wild monolith]

Wanderers is fucking insane

[zenith nacelle]

i hate x the variable

[nimble scaffold]

my crest tier list

[celest orchid]

Reaper is better for traversal full stop but Wanderer's is the best nail moveset in the game for sheer DPS

[stiff tide]

Beast in S tier? Never cook again

[austere cliff]

needs an ok button that says "Shaw"

[native canyon]

wanderer gets to do some nutty shit and also they gave it random crits for some reason

[gilded sigil]

I don't get the appeal of witch crest

[light swan]

this is such a good teirlist its so healthy and supportive

[strong oak]

i don't have it anymore

[cyan pewter]

ths the only time i used smth from my math class ever

[static rose]

wanderer isnt bottom tier? nonsense

[noble nacelle]

i legit cant read the middle left one im colourblind what does it say 😭

[nimble scaffold]

hunter LMAO

[lilac ore]

You guys male me want to rename myself "Reaper crest hater hater"

[stiff tide]

Its objectively one of the best crests in the game

[carmine kraken]

Wanderer is just lame to me but I get the appeal

[austere cliff]

we male you?

[drowsy hazel]

Shaman users should just play Hollow Knight 1 instead, since it has Grubberfly's Elegy. You know what, Reaper users should also go back to Hollow Knight 1 and use Mark of Pride.

[upper karma]

Did i just manage to miss this or were there not ||giant plasmium buds in act 3 in bonegrave or a second spot in wormways originally||

[crystal ledge]

just beat savage beastfly 2, hot take: this boss would be great and fun to fight if it didnt constantly go offscreen

[coarse leaf]

Gtg, cya bois, keep SHAW-ing

[static rose]

its objectively the lamest crest because its just hollow knight but again and ive already played hollow knight enough

[bitter topaz]

how do i get monarch wings

[slender thistle]

It would be nice if tool slots werent locked to specific movesets

[noble nacelle]

garama adidas

[drowsy hazel]

Beat Broken Vessel.

[bitter topaz]

the silksong ones

[noble nacelle]

beat broken vessel

[carmine kraken]

elegy with no downsides.

[gloomy fjord]

Guys I don’t get the reaper crest hate😭

[cyan pewter]

i will

[gilded sigil]

no it's fast enough that you get to do more Silksong things rather than just one attack at a time

[drowsy hazel]

Mount Fay.

[nimble scaffold]

i love it mostly because of the agressive bind and the insane builds you can make with the sheer amount of blue slots. plus it feels very satisfying to use with how nimble the swings feel, plus it as good reach

[bitter topaz]

yea but where

[carmine kraken]

How do I get chicken wings?

[drowsy hazel]

At the top.

[stiff tide]

Still the best 🫃

[austere cliff]

hitting fastly is fun tho

[cerulean sable]

wait beast crest mains exist

[waxen latch]

kfc

[bitter topaz]

how do i get there

[celest orchid]

kind of agreed but something to keep in mind: there are a number of late game bosses wherein it is basically impossible to DPS rush them and you basically have to use kiting/potshot strategies, so practicing that mindset earlier is a good idea

[cerulean sable]

i thought yall just making shit up

[stiff tide]

No

[cerulean sable]

thank god

[drowsy hazel]

By climbing the mountain.

[pastel folio]

can someone explain to me what content is exactly counted towards the 100%? i wanna do a run in steelsoul mode but having less stuff to focus on collecting sub 30h would help

[bitter topaz]

i need wings for that

[covert gyro]

PATH OF PAIN WAS EASIER THAN THIS IM NOT EVEN JOKING

[dull cape]

this is like "wait broccoli eaters exist"

[crystal ledge]

i dont normally dps rush but ok

[slender thistle]

Reaper crest hate

[native canyon]

here's my crest tier list, worth noting the margins between placements are incredibly small outside of 6th and 7th place imo

[waxen latch]

No you dont, thats where you get them

[drowsy hazel]

You don't need double jump to climb it.

[static rose]

i already hit fast with quick slash for like 500 hours i dont want it anymore 😭

[zenith nacelle]

plus u can basically get hundreds of dmg in one burst so dopamine :P

[slender thistle]

Girl be fr you can get hit a few times its an easier white flower quest

[bitter topaz]

wait but what route do i take then

[dull cape]

either your route is not good or you should just clear out the route ahead of time, which makes it way more consistent

[crystal ledge]

NAH JIT TRIPPIN I DID THAT THING LIKE 4TH TRY AND GAVE UP ON POP LONG AGO

[drowsy hazel]

There is only one route you can take.

[austere cliff]

im tryna make the most demented crest tier list i can think of

[bitter topaz]

and it iS?

[nimble scaffold]

yes!! it's perfect for how agressive i like to play, which is a big reason why i wanna main beast next playthrough

[stiff tide]

I did this in like 3 tries it’s not hard gangalang

[carmine kraken]

These crests are all pretty fun in their own right. There isnt really a boring crest

[covert gyro]

NO IT IS, ITS THOSE freaking scales in the citadel that slow me down and the path is so awkward

[drowsy hazel]

How far have you gone in Mount Fay?

[echo sable]

they're*

[pastel folio]

clearly you havent experienced killing a 3 phase boss in 1 cycle of red tools w architect crest

[rain socket]

YES

[covert gyro]

youre just skilled

[dull cape]

but wouldn't you rather play the game and figure it out than be handed it all lol

[regal oriole]

yo is there a way to hide ur cursor when playing w bepinx?

[austere cliff]

good luck making sense of this

[slender thistle]

What about knight crest

[zenith nacelle]

imma be so fr i don't know how to optimize beast

[bitter topaz]

well that trying has taken 3 hrs

im getting pissed

[native canyon]

not even my actual opinion outside of wanderer number 1 and reaper dead last 😭

[lofty harness]

Did u try clearing the path before hand

[echo sable]

oh wait this game is on thunderstore and has mods and shit already?

[covert gyro]

yes

[static rose]

the correct tier list

[dull cape]

show where you are on the your map

[nimble scaffold]

me neither but it's calling to me

[lofty harness]

Which path do u take?

[stiff tide]

Damn right I am, but as long as
You have the citadel short cut it shouldn’t be bad. The muscle memory from last judge should do a lot of heavy lifting

[pastel folio]

d architect crest is blasphemous

[covert gyro]

left

[nimble scaffold]

valid

[rain socket]

EW

[austere cliff]

creast? is that like beast

[full dome]

I remember there is a bell hut in Deep Docks right here. Is it unlockable only in act 3?

[carmine kraken]

You can comically melt bosses by face tanking and constantly swinging so theres that

[lofty harness]

Try the exhaust organ route

[nimble scaffold]

absolutely insane

[covert gyro]

F NO THATS HARD

[rain socket]

LOL

[zenith nacelle]

yup

[celest orchid]

the first person I know who beat the game and later got the Act 3 ending used beast crest for boss shredding

[lofty harness]

Yes, act 3 thing just ignore

[rain socket]

fuck you

[waxen latch]

Yes, its to get to ||the abyss||

[limber jungle]

hi pvz heroes budget guy

[simple herald]

Unequip it

[native canyon]

people that hate wanderer for being "too similar to hollow knight" would say sharpdart is better than cross stitch

[carmine kraken]

The fact that every tier list is different is a good thing

[static rose]

rarbaeroamergairaabervaervaeo that wasnt supposed to happen

[wild monolith]

Yall dont know the hidden power of shaman if you have all 3 silk hearts and use weavelight + volt filament you can destroy everything

[bitter topaz]

so ur telling me i have to do allat again

[static rose]

i dont like the pogo

[karmic vigil]

Does anyone have like that mindmap of what you need to get to act 3 i kinda want it to learn to speedrun

[austere cliff]

ok you got me, here's my real list

[native canyon]

lmao

[full dome]

ok

[paper gazelle]

are they the same species?

[celest orchid]

I think beast crest stonks will rise when people embrace pure animal instinct figure out its weird minutiae and also how to maximize the combination of sheer DPS and ability to facetank

[zenith nacelle]

1 billion rune rages

[stiff tide]

Nah wanderer is objectively with hunters crest, good list otherwise though. Reaper should also be a few tiers lower though

[native canyon]

silly little guy

[dull cape]

it shouldn't be too bad unless you're trying to pogo? don't pogo anything in mount fay, pogo platforming spikes and enemies is a different game

[static rose]

i dont think you fully understand the word objectively

[celest orchid]

tremendous if trhe

[lilac ore]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-slap-silksong-slap-silksong-deny-silksong-denied-gif-5905972902135946000

[karmic vigil]

this is trippy ngl

[limber jungle]

im deaf can you tell me which tier is which

[zenith nacelle]

objectively is objectively based on ppls opinions(trust)

[native canyon]

objectively speaking, reaper crest users deserve less

[celest orchid]

Power Word: Parry

[cerulean crescent]

The ||Cogwork Dancers|| were an incredible fight, but hands down down the best boss I've fought so far is ||First Sinner||. When I saw how fast she was, I just went "screw it" and switched from my usual ||reaper creast|| to ||wanderer/wayfarer (idk, the fast attacking one) crest||, and put on the ||tool that makes you sprint faster||. My god, it was fucking incredible.

[austere cliff]

yeah i get confused myself when i go back and read it. not good.

[carmine kraken]

I do like the chaos of this crests discussion

[stiff tide]

I do, it’s math. It does the most next to hunters crest

[bitter topaz]

It took me an hour to get up there the first time and i missed the wings

[drowsy hazel]

Objective is whatever my opinion is.

[languid meteor]

Nobody use hunter ?

[vagrant python]

finally got the flea map
now i can get to act 3 !

[carmine kraken]

Hell yeah I agree

[karmic vigil]

Reaper needs a tier below F 💔

[wild monolith]

The threadstorm on shaman with this combo is THE highest damage you can do with any build you pair that with cross stitch and rune rage and you got a crazy build

[drowsy hazel]

A lot of people do.

[static rose]

ok honestly the reaper hate im not getting is it just because its dps is a bit lower

[celest orchid]

I use Hunter

[light swan]

if you like crest discussions you’ll like this server 80% of the time

[noble nacelle]

what would i do if not pogoing????

[rain socket]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-reaper-crest-the-mist-greymoor-gif-13464358243469655364

[carmine kraken]

Do people hate reaper because of its moveset or because its easy to use?

[rain socket]

disgusting tierlist

[celest orchid]

Hunter requires you to do as Our Lady of Hallownest does and, as they say, git gud

[nimble scaffold]

best fight in the game period. i loved her so much i did her hitless just for an excuse to keep fighting her god i need GODHOME LET ME FIGHT RADIANT FIRST SINNER

[drowsy hazel]

Because it's weak.

[light swan]

all i care about is that witch doesnt get hate

[stiff tide]

Ragebait tierlist

[limber jungle]

I tried optimizing reaper builds, it just came out to be a worse shaman 🥹🥹

[upper karma]

What are the most accessible of the ||giant blobs that release the plasmium flies||

[drowsy hazel]

Bonegrave.

[cerulean crescent]

Don't diss my beloved 😭

[limber jungle]

its because its basically useless compared to the other crests

[karmic vigil]

its genuinly bad in every aspect : Dps , its ability is bad , it has no distinctive like feature that makes it viable you get like half a silk from each orb you pick up its not worth it. While other crests are so useful in cases reaper is useless in every caswe

[lilac ore]

I'm gonna throw up

[nimble scaffold]

i second this

[light swan]

first sinner was my first bossfight with witch crest and holy shit it was an awakening

[austere cliff]

this screen converted to gif or w/e would be a good animated banner

[karmic vigil]

Only thing good about it is the dash attack the back flip is 🔥

[rain socket]

SULA THE PEAK

[limber jungle]

even getting a singular upgrade on hunter will make it better than reaper in most scenarios

[nimble scaffold]

sameeeee dash slashing her through the whole thing was peak

[gilded sigil]

Witch is just act 2 reaper and Shaman is act 3 upgrade

[limber jungle]

unless you skill issue

[karmic vigil]

The fuck not even close 😭

[nimble scaffold]

INSANE take

[solemn lotus]

How do you use witch crest correctly

[cerulean crescent]

the extra silk after binding is good, too

[hardy wyvern]

Wayfarer?

[light swan]

fighting an awesome bossfight that hard countered witch simultaneously makes first sinner as hard as it deserves + truly showed me how fun witch was + taught me the crest really well too

[noble nacelle]

this is my run (skip to 20:40)
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FpUsOWwJhc&t=1240s||

[drowsy hazel]

Unupgraded Hunter is better than Reaper already.

[glacial kelp]

turns out every crest is just reaper

[native canyon]

okay this is probably closer to my actual crest rankings

[static parrot]

i got thrown into enemy spam with no saves this game is EVIL
i won first try but THAT WAS SO SCARY

[karmic vigil]

trust me with the time ur gonna spend picking up the silk orbs you can get the same amount of silk by just hitting the enemy with any other crest amount is too little

[light swan]

the fight seems like it’d be easy af on other crests ngl

[nimble scaffold]

make use of the sheer amount of blue slots, you can make some really insane builds with it. and play agressive! take advantage of the damage your bind does

[gilded sigil]

those three are all so slow

[dull cape]

clawline was designed before most of the areas & enemies of silksong, almost every single platforming area after act 1 is designed for clawline, there are a few types of pogo spots, but they also support clawline

[limber jungle]

ehhhhhh id say unpgraded hunter is on par with reaper

[crimson ember]

I GOT TO THE SURFACE GUYS!!!!!!!!!!

[stiff tide]

Hmm this is good i like how low reaper is

[hardy wyvern]

im stealing that

[nimble scaffold]

literally this

[solemn lotus]

Beat 4 bosses today father of flame,trobbio,unraveled and disgraced chef Luigi

[austere cliff]

reaper silk gen is just so awful anyway. i never felt like i got much value from it even when i tried

[stiff tide]

Is greymoor the surface?

[lilac ore]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-7411347762508822789

[hoary creek]

so youre saying clawmirror is a good choice for witches crest

[wild monolith]

Exactly my list but id put witch in a

[gilded sigil]

witch "aggressive bind" lol but you're trying to heal, you don't want to be too close

[lilac ore]

Me too reaper crest haters

[karmic vigil]

THIS is an accurate tier list although hunter and witch may be interchangeable

[vagrant python]

how do i get to this flea

[steady basalt]

Hot take : i did not care about the citadel and takes a while to finish it

[native canyon]

the margins are super small anyways besides reaper honestly

[celest orchid]

I suspect it is a combination of it being seen as an early-game crutch, lack of recognition of ways to torque the bind special into positive effects, and objectively weak DPS when striking continuously compared with other Crests.

[austere cliff]

high halls gauntlet was the only place reaper silk gen felt vaguely useful and even then, nah

[noble nacelle]

vaults

[steady basalt]

wisp thicket

[nimble scaffold]

this is one of the most broken builds in the game

[karmic vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[limber jungle]

I tried a pale nail spam strategy with reaper
I was still running running out of silk 🥹🥹

[vagrant python]

tf is that

[frosty rune]

Reaper is a situational crest for annoying bosses that you can only get 2-3 hits on at a time like that ceiling crawler, and also for general traversal since its extremely large down attack makes pogoing very easy and its a very safe crest to have when fighting normal enemies for the first time in a new area

[hoary creek]

reaper was too nonchalant to be rated properly

[graceful cairn]

hold on how do I get the abyss map

[waxen latch]

How do u get the dice and the top weapon

[steady basalt]

wrong area mb

[dull cape]

i'm familiar with the approach, but it's not super helpful to someone struggling for hours on mount fay which was definitely designed for clawline and has no spots that need a pogo

[drowsy hazel]

Above the bench.

[rain socket]

go above abyss bench room

[celest orchid]

Like it is completely possible to go hard on DPS with Reaper, what you have to do is bind a lot and use the hell out of Silk Skills you gain in extra from the ability

[native canyon]

every build is one of the most broken builds in the game, except reaper that shit is ASSSSSSSSS

[austere cliff]

i think it's purely a function of the hunter crest down attack being diagonal that funnels people into reaper crest

[waxen latch]

grab it

[lavish grove]

guys this game is bad its too easy why dont the enemies one shot

[celest orchid]

That is what makes up for slow hit rate

[wild monolith]

Reaper is actually ass🥀

[karmic vigil]

Just keep going through the abyss by the time you get to the bench thats there ur gonna find a room above the bench there you will find the map

[zenith nacelle]

great idea

[graceful cairn]

legit never did I'm going too fast

[lavish grove]

and nail should do 1 damage

[hoary creek]

oh right, I forgot how good pollip double edged boomerang is

[nimble scaffold]

the dice is from the gambler dude at blasted steps, curvesicle is upgraded at far fields in act 3

[noble nacelle]

nah its ok for platforming

[native canyon]

reaper users are the type to be excited to go to the dentist

[light swan]

i’d argue that pollip pouch and dice are both flex slots depending on your playstyle but the other 3 blue slots carried this hard

[nimble scaffold]

this is the funniest thing i've seen all day

[drowsy hazel]

Magnetite Dice are in Blasted Steps, either under Grindle's shop or in Grindle's shop. Curvesickle is an upgraded version of Curveclaw, obtainable from the target room in Far Fields.

[waxen latch]

Can u point it on the map (curvesicle), havent found it and have explored far fields

[austere cliff]

the platforming in hunter's march without any mobility upgrades is likely what made me switch to reaper when i got it. i never wanted to use that hunter down attack for bouncing again