sk-discussion

[deft girder]

you know now that i think about it hunters is the only one that's a direct 45 degree angle, although in general pogoing still takes some pretty good timing on most crests except reaper and shamans

[toxic horizon]

Yeah but beast lets you do funny skips so its cool

[outer axle]

No it is a very fun fight

[rustic quail]

i really like duo fights and i didnt find the adds too oppressive

[blazing seal]

its the best boss from act 1 hands down

[open obsidian]

phantom is so good, fun fight, great song, cool entrance, great death animation

[rustic quail]

i can see why some people hated them though

[fervent forge]

lemme make a top 10 most FUN bosses in the game

[slender thistle]

I feel like reapers crest is unuseable unless you are fighting a boss or arena

[outer axle]

Agreed

[timid plinth]

yes, if you can master it
thats my point

[faint tendon]

Forebrother is ass

[slender thistle]

I agree i was just messing

[rustic quail]

it's good but i wish she was a bit more complicated

[pure oar]

It actually did make the cogwork core much easier compared to when I did it with wanderers

[eager widget]

Playing hk after every day playing ss since release made doing diagonal pogos with the knight

[wooden quest]

Does anyone else HATE greymoor?

[deft girder]

stop listening to the people who tell you to face tank and you'll find it amazing

[fervent bough]

This was my first Metroidvania so I started out with the downward diagonal pogo. I didn't have any trouble learning how to do it

[rustic quail]

crawmoor my beloathed

[eager widget]

yeah it aint working

[junior skiff]

and make a spectacle one cuz i think it would be pretty different

[toxic horizon]

I can’t play HK anymore, it just feels so slow

[open obsidian]

same duo fights rock, tho forebrothers for me were not as good as my top five picks. The adds were not bad tho AHEM beastfly

[rough nexus]

Grand mother silk was mad easy

[swift sand]

hmmm
do you think ss gon win goty
i think its a tossup with e33 but what do yall think

[toxic horizon]

Trobbio wipes

[rustic wasp]

is there a mod to play with the moveset of the slab to make a challenge run?

[rough nexus]

I beat her on my second try on my first playthrough

[vestal spruce]

yeah i doubt ill ever replay HK,

[toxic horizon]

They are the only real options

[fiery burrow]

SS ain't beating MHWilds 🗣️

[junior skiff]

not that much tbh, ended up liking it a lot after learning some patterns and in act 3

[open obsidian]

fair

[blazing seal]

id really like ss to win but i feel that theyll make e33 win

[fervent bough]

I'm hoping when I finally play hollow knight it doesn't feel garbage since I started out with Silksong

[pure oar]

Like the double buzz saws that come out are almost designed for you to hunter pogo off of

[timid plinth]

it IS amazing against bosses, I've beaten lost lace with it
it is just that it requires more experience to be usable

[rough nexus]

I still play hk for yhe pantheond

[remote skiff]

what's this new update about

[rustic quail]

i got really lucky with beastfly where i got adds that werent just immortal blocks and just pogoed the shit out of beastfly and then flintsteeled it to death. groal on the other hand. thats like 3 hours and a half im NEVER GETTING BACK

[fervent bough]

I always feel like scorpion from mortal combat when I use the harpoon skill

[wraith iris]

I’m in act 2 Less go

[junior skiff]

balance patch

[wooden quest]

I hate every enemy there (shakra even tho technically ur an enemy to the enemy’s I love you)

[deft girder]

i consider beast the best because it's install gives it a damage boost, the speed of wanderers and the range of shamans all at once and if you don't get hit it lasts long enough for near permanent uptime

[toxic horizon]

I’d argue witch has a better case for being skill reliant

[rustic quail]

also fuck these guys ive lost so many steel soul runs to them.

[junior skiff]

the craws werent that bad

[open obsidian]

god screw that runback BLEH GARBAGE

[vestal spruce]

the craws are sO bad at low health and no clawline

[open obsidian]

primal craw-spids

[slender thistle]

Act 4 with john silksong

[swift sand]

the enemy of my enemies is just a hater enemy

[fervent bough]

Did anyone else know you could just run up the walls after sticking to them instead of jumping

[junior skiff]

skill issue tbh (jk i feel you)

[rustic quail]

PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO DEAL WITH THE NINJA CRAWS

[pure oar]

Play patient with the craws and silk spear them

[fervent bough]

You just need to click sprint and it goes up the walls

[open obsidian]

wut

[junior skiff]

3 hours????

[pine frost]

Not a big fan of Flea Juggle

[pure oar]

Silk spear them when you have a clear shot

[open obsidian]

woa

[toxic horizon]

Yep, it doesnt help a lot with some platformimg segments but its great otherwise

[timid plinth]

i think the witch's bind is easier to manage if you instead think of it as a damage move than a heal move

[rustic quail]

how do i hit him to get silk if his fatass keeps running 😭

[fervent forge]

1 first sinner no diff
2 phantom
3 trobbio
4 craddle lace
5 cogwork dancers
6 last judge
7 lost lace
8 bell beast
9 widow
10 fourth chorus

[blazing seal]

just wait for them to go a bit down and then hit them

[vestal spruce]

good lukc getting that silk tho while they hit u and shit

[worn canyon]

What happens if flea caravan has enough to go to blasted steps but you haven’t beat last judge?

[junior skiff]

small jump when they throw near the ground and just try and hit them from underneath

[fervent bough]

I mainly use it to run from the boss without accidentally jumping off

[toxic horizon]

They wait until last judge is dead

[open obsidian]

where is my girl karmelita

[swift sand]

last judge violently dies

[pure oar]

The moment he takes to aim his 3 shots at u is when you silk spear his ass

[rustic quail]

every time i do that they just randomly stop flying and fall onto me 💔

[worn canyon]

Awwww

It would be cool if there was an interaction

[robust tiger]

There is a pogo like the knight has right

[fervent bough]

The last judge is the coolest act 1 fight

[fervent forge]

if i tell you where that failed abortion attempt of a boss is i will be muted for a good while

[junior skiff]

just dash away 💔

[worn canyon]

Wait one more question can you beat last judge and leave?

[toxic horizon]

Wanderers crest yeah

[vestal spruce]

dawg hes asking how to get the silk in the first place

[rustic quail]

yeah im not good at adapting to those kinds of fights. radiant markoth type trauma (WHICH TOOK ME 17 FUCKING HOURS BY THE WAY)

[thorn moat]

fourth chorus

[robust tiger]

O thank God

[timid plinth]

i like phantom more

[fervent forge]

phantom

[polar stag]

JUST BEAT LL PHASE 3 LET'S GO!!!!!

[open obsidian]

SHES SO FUN THO WTF

[fervent bough]

I don't think he's that cool. Jumping up and smacking the head wasnt impressive to me

[toxic horizon]

I love how lugoli is technically an act 1 fight now

[junior skiff]

they killed pre-patch moorwing, they can handle the last judge

[vestal spruce]

Karmelita is a top 3 boss

[formal swallow]

I just fought the GOAT ||Seth|| and he is probably one of my fav bosses. I love a good sword and board brother and the shield explosion clank is so satisfying

[open obsidian]

good fight, not top ten

[thorn moat]

more about the presentation than the actual boss fight

[fervent forge]

not in any hell

[remote skiff]

for what exactly, also I'm sick of them "nerfing" the game, it's supposed to be hard

[deft girder]

wanderer is closest and there's also reaper, witch, and shamans who all have really shallow angles

[open obsidian]

heck yea she is

[fervent bough]

I never even updated my game. I'm still on the first patch

[worn canyon]

I’m trying to see how much you can do in the game without triggering act 2 and I’m wondering if you can go with the fleas to fleatopia in act 1

[pure oar]

Imagine getting ass blasted before you reach the citidel

[vestal spruce]

why tho u might just run into issues

[robust tiger]

Alright I'll figure it out eventually lol

[thorn moat]

crowfather is my favorite boss

[rustic quail]

id say karmelita is like.. an nkg type boss
you either thing they're bs or you adapt and like their fighting style

[junior skiff]

they reduced some damage numbers (hornet)

[hidden nacelle]

Anyone know what happens if you speak to the warrior flea without ever speaking to the caravan?

[pine frost]

Flea Juggle filling me with more agony than Flower Quest did

[open obsidian]

@fervent forge ok how long did karmelita take you and is that amount why you hate her

[fervent forge]

is everything good at home?

[pure oar]

She goes to the caravan

[rustic quail]

i like most of the bosses that feel like a dance where it isnt just them throwing adds and projectiles everywhere

[timid plinth]

she just goes home

[toxic horizon]

Mfs just need to learn how to pogo her, she’s free after that

[formal swallow]

I really really love Kahn. Just wish he was harder

[fervent forge]

4 attempts

[remote skiff]

oh, they nerfing hornet? I was just complaining about them making the game easier, now I'm complaining on why make the game harder lol

[hidden nacelle]

But does hornet tell her to? Surely the dialogue isn't the same

[junior skiff]

yeah, fights with rhythm >>>>>

[thorn moat]

yeah, and i liked the boss because you can cheese him with the architects crest its funny as hell

[toxic horizon]

Honestly wish he summoned adds, the fight is just so easy

[blazing seal]

im pretty sure u need to go to the ducts to go with em to fleatopia

[fervent forge]

she wasnt hard, just wouldnt put her as a top 40 fun boss

[devout birch]

Hades 2 finally released right?

[thorn moat]

conchcutter putting in work

[junior skiff]

yeah, they balenced the crests to be on the same level from what i've seen

[fervent bough]

I didnt want to play against nerfed bosses and just never got around to updating. Now that I'm on my 2nd playthrough I might update

[rustic quail]

i will say sometimes its kind of hard to read when she's going to go into the air when i pogo her, but otherwise i got used to her. the double blade toss is really fun to dodge. also kind of demands you to learn to use harpoon in fights

[rocky cosmos]

L take

[worn canyon]

Yes but can you get enough flees is the question

[fervent forge]

such an easy of a boss its bad

[open obsidian]

why do you hate her then I could see being mad if it took a while but FOUR ATTEMPTS just why

[formal swallow]

I love the the beautiful rhythm of Groal 10/10 boss 10/10 boss room design

[fervent bough]

This is the patch I'm on

[remote skiff]

mmm ok, I see

[severe cosmos]

Groal the gross

[fervent forge]

the kind of opinion id like to have from a bilewater enjoyer 💔

[toxic horizon]

Yeah, her and first sinner incentivize using clawline a lot

[vestal spruce]

Eh I think the nerfs are for the better

[pulsar pelican]

Just got true ending for the first time and ||mushroom|| ending at the same time!! Super hyped

[formal swallow]

Hard≠Good Easy≠Bad.

[hidden nacelle]

Have you seen getting into the citadel without activating act 2?

[rustic quail]

or hunter dash

[fervent forge]

cuz not fun, didnt enjoy her, bad boss

[slender thistle]

Trobbio is buns

[junior skiff]

it does have a rhythm, and i did end up enjoying it after some attempts

[toxic horizon]

Bait

[floral remnant]

Can you lose your run on steel soul if ||you died to a dream boss?||

[arctic vector]

Haven't played ss yet, but is there a reason as to why she's more violent than the knight? Or is that just her personality

[hidden nacelle]

Agreed

[slender thistle]

Not bait, trobbio will never be grimm

[fossil reef]

just died to phase 2 start of gms

[pallid grove]

I just stay on the ground and parry her attacks with needle. Jumping sometimes to reposition or avoid spikes.

[open obsidian]

wuh, shes so fluid and fun to fight, the only annoying thing is the bad spin attack telegraph and weird spin attack movement

[toxic horizon]

Cause she’s an actual person

[junior skiff]

not saying its the best fight ever tho, it does have it's rage inducing moments

[rustic quail]

i dont think so but i havent tried?

[formal swallow]

This dude lowkey reminds me of the typical souls “gamer” (tourist)

[fervent bough]

I love how hard the game is. That's the entire reason I decided to buy the game. I saw people crying online about difficulty and wanted to see what all the hype was about.

[worn canyon]

I really want someone to try to do as much as possible without triggering act 2, especially fleatopia

[fervent forge]

hard is usually equals good and easy is mostly equals bad, especially for a sequel for an already insane game like HK, so having a boss THAT easy is quite a waste of the game

[fossil reef]

should be like original so id guess no

[devout birch]

It should be similar to hollow knight dream nail bosses

[open obsidian]

yea its dumb that people complained about the difficulty like COME ON

[junior skiff]

survival insticts of a flea

[vestal spruce]

Yeah but at the end of the day. The devs chose to change it to a specific way which I find is the best intended experience

[remote skiff]

that's what I'm saying

[formal swallow]

I didn’t really like him too much but he wasn’t as awful as people said he was.

[rustic quail]

hey have you ever seen a dead flea

[open obsidian]

mabye the double damage cogs is fair but moorwing shouldnt have been nerfed

[fervent bough]

Idk I feel like the version they spent 7 years making was the intended one

[rocky cosmos]

L take again for hating on bilewater
i accept you even tho you have the critical sense of a door 💔

[junior skiff]

no, but they're indestructible, and you're not

[fervent forge]

grandmother silk is the easiest possible outcome for one of the final bosses

[arctic vector]

Ohhh fair enough

[toxic horizon]

I feel the early game is a bit too punishing for newer players, I think it was the right choice

[devout birch]

they're so stupid with unbelievable durability

[fossil reef]

tf ive never done or seen anything on gms how tf am i meant to know that she gonna do that

[fervent forge]

like come on even normal grimm was harder

[formal swallow]

See what you just shared is a subjective opinion

[vestal spruce]

With limited testers as well. If they continue to update the game, I see the latest version as their truest vision

[open obsidian]

eh its meant to be a skill check to prepare you for the late game of act 1

[fervent forge]

homie please do NOT accept me i dont wanna be in the acceptance zone of you out of all people

[rustic quail]

i really do wish that the coral forest was a whole area though

[fervent bough]

I kinda want the devs to update the game to 4 masks of damage from bosses and 2 from contact

[open obsidian]

yea

[toxic horizon]

Just go play mods dude

[pure oar]

Hry some of those fleas you question how tf they're even alive

[fervent bough]

I can't I'm on switch

[junior skiff]

neither did I, but I just instinctly moved away from the strings, the widow did the same thing

[formal swallow]

Omar has a Zote personality

[rustic quail]

barbed bracelet

[devout birch]

I feel if there were more testers for silksong the game might not have the groal runback

[slender thistle]

Crazy how theres a charm that makes you take 4 damage

[fervent forge]

or just suggest overcharming like hk for double damage...?

[fossil reef]

yeah, thats how you play, i didnt because thats just not what i do, i probably took damage from widow when she did it but idk bc that was a while ago

[pure oar]

Up to 6

[fervent bough]

Yeah I don't have it yet I still need to get it this playthrough

[fervent forge]

i wouldnt wanna fight lost lace just to die to 2 hits and a fart...

[slender thistle]

Does something do 3 damage?

[toxic horizon]

Yeah, there are definite issues with the game’s difficulty/how punishing it is, and I think people just brushing it off as skill issues can only hurt the game as a whole

[vestal spruce]

It’s kinda funny to me that when the devs Nerf something it’s why are they going against their vision but when they make something harder, it’s good

[fervent forge]

||grandmother silk shredding attack||

[pure oar]

Gms silk trap nd final judge death

[slim thorn]

yes...

[junior skiff]

as previoulsy stated... survival instinct of a flea

[open obsidian]

gms silk attack

[slender thistle]

Ohhhhhh yes forgot that

[timid plinth]

grand mother silk and lost lace

[rustic quail]

all cutscene type attacks do

[fossil reef]

what is your problem with me

[rocky cosmos]

imagine hating on bilewater 💔💔😭 glad i aint u

[dry ridge]

Groal The Great is the hardest boss in the game by far

[polar stag]

About to get insulted for the amount of time I took beating the game 100% for the first time but I fucking did it! All mementos, full materium, all relics, all psalm cylinders, all tools, every boss, full Hunter's Journal. Everything. Done.

[slim thorn]

isnt that multiple attacks?

[weak lantern]

strangely the you take double damage tool messes up on some of LLs attacks and it loses the drawback

[junior skiff]

LL circle attacks i think

[dry ridge]

It is the first boss that I'm having real problems in beating

[sturdy mortar]

i need help, i'm missing one tool and 2 spool fragments

[open obsidian]

judge death does that? I guess I was at 1 mask when it happened so I wouldnt have noticed but dang

[devout birch]

Comparing to hk testers there were 6 testers I believe based on what I saw in the credits unlike hollow knight that had 10+ testers

[vestal spruce]

Good shit

[rustic quail]

no you still dont have the purple quill in steel soul

[formal swallow]

Seth is so awesome possum

[dry ridge]

The runback is shit, the boss is shit, the enemies before the boss are shit

[open obsidian]

ig then fotf does 3 as well?

[junior skiff]

oh, that aint the final boss

[formal swallow]

Bed of Chaos reincarnated

[fervent forge]

im more than happy to not be a bilewater enjoyer, the only thing carrying bilewater from a 0/10 and a spit to a 2/10 is phantom, nothing more

[dry ridge]

Final boss is likely way easier than Groal The Great

[open obsidian]

what boss?

[swift sand]

father of flame

[elfin oasis]

There's no inferiors when it comes to 100%, you took up the challenge and completed it.

[fervent bough]

That's not too bad if you enjoy taking your time and exploring every single place and doing every single thing possible

[eager widget]

Haha I wish

[vestal spruce]

Yeah I honestly agree with all the nerfs so far. And they prolly have the stats to back up the changes

[slim thorn]

you are missing something at ||bilewater||

[formal swallow]

(Bilewater OST)

[weak lantern]

lol BoC was super easy and the runback was a joke compared to like anything in ss

[full halo]

I was not cooked
But Team Cherry cooked
FIRST SINNER WAS PEAK

[junior skiff]

yeah, eu li final boss envez de first boss kkkk (e é mais facil msm)

[formal swallow]

Oh yeah that too 😭 I completely missed the bench

[timid plinth]

i learned that hiding in the maggot water helps

[dry ridge]

This dumbass looking fly

[swift sand]

for.... father of flame?

[open obsidian]

I unironically kinda like father now, hated it at first but then you realize how much it makes you strategize

[slender thistle]

I feel like im the only person who didnt love first sinner

[eager widget]

The frog

[fervent forge]

fleas' sleeping sounds in the travelling cart is 100x better

[devout birch]

the amount of inaccurate feedback from 6 testers is crazy

[dry ridge]

Doesn't help anymore, I think they fixed it

[swift sand]

explain..

[open obsidian]

oh yea groal is a*s

[slim thorn]

its soul master if swamp

[severe cosmos]

They need to make Groal's hitbox smaller.

[fervent forge]

best ost in the game

[toxic horizon]

Its just pogoing, wdym “strategize”

[formal swallow]

When I faced BoC I was underwhelmed people actin like he was the hardest boss

[sturdy mortar]

thank youu

[weak lantern]

is pogo and dodge strategizing?

[timid plinth]

i just drill and it dies

[fervent bough]

Bilewater becomes a joke when you get the architect crest and turn into a drug addict

[polar stag]

I just realized I didn't do the Mr. Mushroom quest

[junior skiff]

I gave him the london special and he died pretty fast (wandered + flint slate)

[slim thorn]

do you want more specifics?

[severe cosmos]

Most of the damage youll take is by him slamming himself with his big ass hitbox on you

[polar stag]

wrong reply

[dry ridge]

I know that I'm not beating the game in Hardcore mode solely because of this fuckaroo

[fervent forge]

that dude has a vengeful spirit 🙏 💔

[devout birch]

you gonna meet mr ragebait

[formal swallow]

Yeah. I only discovered it after. It’s on a right path in the wisp thicket and you have to break something first it to drop if I recall.

[fervent bough]

I explored the map with the alchemist brew I'm ngl

[lusty stump]

Silk and soul is very vague. How am I supposed to figure out where to look?

[weak lantern]

least fun ds1 boss, but kinda not that bad lol

[open obsidian]

you have to conserve silk for heal but also you can silk skill and you can figure out how many hits each node takes and its very neat and cool

[toxic horizon]

Getting eaten by him and bursting him down will forever be the most fun way to kill him

[junior skiff]

at the end of the room with the jumping maggots i think

[polar stag]

no I actually didn't do the mr. mushroom quest

[dry ridge]

I'm with level 2 nail, I think I'll sharpen it more and then I go back to try to beat him

[polar stag]

I forgot about it

[formal swallow]

I prob struggled the most with O&S my first time around

[fervent bough]

7 hits for 2 masks of damage is 100% valid

[weak lantern]

the electric stake is better for it, think drill probably gets you hit

[junior skiff]

i beat him at nail 2 lol

[fervent forge]

finally someone who has common sense

[pine frost]

Act III is bro okay

[rocky cosmos]

meanwhile bilewater continues to have the best atmosphere, ambiance, level design, lore design, themes and soundtrack 🥹🤞🏻 (not including citadel)

[swift sand]

really?
i believe you can just smack it till its dead and it doesn't really matter
and for the silk thing.... the goal of it, like every other boss in silksong, is to not get hit
thats it

[polar stag]

No

[weak lantern]

least fun =/= hardest

[slim thorn]

seems happy...
check the other one

[toxic horizon]

Anyways I love that charge attacks actually give silk now, my shaman build is cheering

[past fjord]

Is there a list of characters I need to see in Act 2 that can't be seen in act 3?

[rustic quail]

i would say his shit was laced

[tidal ruin]

First time ragebaiting? You don't seem nervous, good start

[timid plinth]

you still need to dodge wisps so fair enough

[formal swallow]

I found O&S very fun.

[fervent bough]

I like the atmosphere of sinners road more

[weak lantern]

agreed

[junior skiff]

shakra fight and huntress i think

[fervent forge]

you are clearly either a troller and a ragebaiter or a naturally gifted clown, good job if ur a ragebaiter u almost got me lmao

[blazing seal]

bilewater is a really nice area when you are not playing

[fervent bough]

Sinners road and lands of karak are my 2 favorite areas

[devout birch]

now I'm more curious about lifeblood

[timid plinth]

the soundtrack is pretty goated tho

[vocal sky]

The caretaker gives you hints for each item
Hermit soul is in a|| secret room in bellhart bellway||
Maiden soul ||is the chapel maiden ||
Snare setter is ||in a hidden room in weavenest alta||
Seeker soul is from groal

[formal swallow]

The Garamond duel as well

[hybrid rune]

Bilewater is unironically my favorite area in the game and im not sorry

[rocky cosmos]

thats why i wrote a huge paragraph earlier about the lore of bilewater, right? i really love the area and i dont care if yall r close minded lmao

[slender thistle]

Sands of karak bottom 3 area

[junior skiff]

if we had the coral forrest it would be peak

[tidal ruin]

Bilewater is only a nice area if you sit there and listen to the music

[fervent forge]

the best area to jump off a cliff while playing ❤️‍🩹

[formal swallow]

I liked sands of Karak

[fervent forge]

you better be sorry before i make you

[fervent forge]

yeah the platforming was also top tier

[toxic horizon]

Im hoping it’ll be a main threat in the next game

[tidal ruin]

The music is a bop, unfortunately the only good part about bilewater though

[open obsidian]

Yea missed that sadly :( is he needed for hunters journal achievment

[devout birch]

did they fix the glitch where you die in sands of karak if you decided to play needolin to summon bell kids

[timid plinth]

bilewater wasn't as bad when i got wreath of purity

[junior skiff]

where even is that lol, if you're at the end of act 2 idk if you can fight him

[formal swallow]

I don’t think so.

[rocky cosmos]

0 arguments ❤️‍🩹

[empty flume]

Sherma feels like the type of person to always say please and thank you

[fervent bough]

The giant spitting enemies in bilewater are harder then the boss

[slender thistle]

Guys what if team cherry gets really sad that you guys dont like bilewater 😔

[hybrid rune]

Im just biased cause I had wreath and found secret bench and then it was a relatively easy but extremely entertaining and lovable place with incredible atmosphere and music

[formal swallow]

The second area of songclave

[open obsidian]

Ok good

[rocky cosmos]

yea

[fervent bough]

I don't even know how many times I died to them

[empty flume]

What if Team Cherry made Bilawater to not be liked

[junior skiff]

just pogo slop 🥱

[blazing seal]

i hate bilewater but at the same time i really love it

[timid plinth]

im sure the design is intentional

[rocky cosmos]

isnt better but its great too

[toxic horizon]

Miyazaki’s feelings are hurt by you not liking bilewater

[slender thistle]

They definitely did i feel

[tidal ruin]

That would be valid if wreath of purity wasn't at the end of the final (intended) maggot area, which will likely ne after bilewater

[fervent forge]

care to explain how you got wreath of purity before bilewater...? i get you can head there from eastern songclave but just why

[rocky cosmos]

it is

[fervent bough]

Making my way down from the huntress with architect crest was driving me insane

[hybrid rune]

I like bile water

[rocky cosmos]

we do twin

[formal swallow]

He must now make an estus cancelling death blight swamp

[severe cosmos]

Bilewater lowk needs some fixing, GROAL THE GROSS EVEN MORE.

[blazing seal]

every area from the game is really good tbf

[junior skiff]

you can get it before completing bilewater

[tidal ruin]

They knew what they were doing when they made bilewater, the only question os why they thought it would be fun

[crystal ledge]

my idiot ass: lets go of space bar before full jump dude why cant i make this jump??? oh i didnt hold space bar enough proceeds to do it again why cant i make this jump???

[rocky cosmos]

why fixing? explain.

[rocky cosmos]

it isnt supposed to be fun

[timid plinth]

i explored and found putrified ducts before bilewater

[rustic quail]

some people dont find bilewater except through the twisted bud entrance, i can imagine someone doing the jubilana quest, finding putrified and the wreath, and then rexploring whispering and finding bilewater

[toxic horizon]

Miyazaki broke into the studio, nothing could be done

[devout birch]

I guess they're like miyazaki they enjoy people suffering

[hybrid rune]

Bro the X's imply you guys are going tk retroactively change my opinion with emojis

[fervent forge]

"lets take the 2nd biggest area after a whole citadel, with 3 total benches, and the most annoying gameplay experience, and make one of the benches fake"

[severe cosmos]

Ok, it will take some time, but i am gonna answer you with all the points i have, remember, my opinion.

[tidal ruin]

Yeah that makes sense, it's pretty good at doing what its meant to

[junior skiff]

i gave a check :3

[fervent forge]

i know but who will head to putrified ducts first

[lusty stump]

How did groal get it?

[marble swift]

Where’s the cogsmith dude located again?

[toxic horizon]

Me

[junior skiff]

me >:)

[slim thorn]

what kind of walljump did i do?

[timid plinth]

they were having so much fun making the game!!!

[rocky cosmos]

okay ill wait

[tidal ruin]

Now if only the fake bench was also paid

[open obsidian]

It's found on a corpse after him

[full halo]

What made u realize that

[fervent bough]

I did. I found it exploring the citadel accidentally

[junior skiff]

wall dash

[slender thistle]

The fake benches in silksong are genuinely evil team cherry made sure they are in the best possible area where you need a bench

[fervent forge]

"watch me ragebait a community with 1 area"

[rustic quail]

you can sprint up the wall

[vocal sky]

A snail shaman went to try and make peace with groal’s tribe, groal hung him and took his soul

[potent latch]

[Big green prince spoilers ]
||I love how if you literally pass out infront of this man and then regain consciousness through unknown means he's still like "bish can u stfu I'm grieving here"||

[slim thorn]

i did a jumpless walljump. like wallclimb but better what

[devout birch]

This is against law of physics

[rocky cosmos]

thats how they created a gaming masterpiece

[mossy sage]

wow the forebrothers fucking suck bro why am i taking 4 bajillio million damage every time he hits me into lava

[slim thorn]

it wasnt that that is way slower

[fervent bough]

I'm too stubborn not to do a location completely when I find it

[potent latch]

Dammit i did a typo

[hybrid rune]

Vid crashout tbh

[junior skiff]

and he still doesn't want to talk to you

[rustic quail]

it isnt it inherits your momentum a little

[slim thorn]

pls tell me someone knows about this tech

[lusty stump]

Lava hot. Ow ow

[junior skiff]

idk then lol

[dim shadow]

i did it

[toxic horizon]

We literally break into his mind, kill his memories of his lover, then rip out his heart

[open obsidian]

How?

[slim thorn]

what
why didint i knw

[rocky cosmos]

forebrothers when the fifth brother arrives

[timid plinth]

I'm glad i killed him and took his heart

[fervent forge]

i assume you never shower except in the infested water of bilewater, which is worse than not showering

[formal swallow]

Gay robot bugs is such a cool boss

[devout birch]

speedrunners for sure

[tidal ruin]

Remember: You freed green prince, and his last words to you were effectively "shut up"

[empty flume]

What was the first area in Silksong yall fully fell in love with like on first entry

[marble swift]

Guys where do you find the cogsmith guy? I forgot where he is and can’t remember for the life of me

[supple river]

DID TEAM CHERRY JUST ||PUT SILKSONG 2 INSIDE OF SILKSONG WITH ACT 3???||

[hybrid rune]

Wait wait wait wait wait

[eager widget]

share guide

[potent latch]

NOOO HE HAD THE RIGHT TO MOURM

[cerulean void]

just out of curiosity, does anyone know if the cogwork dancers share a health bar or if they have separate health bars?

[junior skiff]

:(

[rocky cosmos]

how to say you dont understand anything about game design without saying you dont understand anything about game design 🤞🏻🥹

[vocal sky]

I’m pretty sure if you press dash while wall clinging you do that

[potent latch]

STOP GANGING UP ON HIM :(

[empty flume]

WHAT WHAT DOES 101% MEAN

[toxic horizon]

Separate

[fervent forge]

i leave my pc open overnight so i have like 100+ hours with less than 40 of actual gameplay 💔

[timid plinth]

pretty sure they share

[supple river]

Oh my goodness

[junior skiff]

not really

[fervent bough]

They share one

[blazing seal]

pretty sure its separate

[devout birch]

I know there is a dlc but I can't prove it

[pure oar]

It's multiple attacks of 3 damage a hit iirc

[fervent forge]

easy, love bilewater

[rocky cosmos]

separate

[supple river]

feels like it tho :)

[dim shadow]

i just had a silksong map open and ran around collecting things

[vocal sky]

More like a dlc but yeah

[hybrid rune]

NI NO NO NO NO NO NO

[toxic horizon]

You can focus one to speed it up a lot

[timid plinth]

i like spreading misinformation

[junior skiff]

if you're in menu it doesn't count

[potent latch]

Alr im gone

[fervent bough]

You drop them faster when you hit both at the same time or at least it felt that way

[slim thorn]

doesnt look like it does

[formal swallow]

Zoteboat Silksong dlc. New playable character.

[cerulean void]

thank you i am just as condused as i was before

[junior skiff]

eh :3

[slim thorn]

oh coool

[rocky cosmos]

so why dont you argue and give real points as to why the area is technically bad?

[fervent forge]

too lazy to leave ngl, and im sometimes in the middle of exploration way ahead of a bench so i just pause

[hybrid rune]

I got 100 but I think 20-30 is afk

[nocturne summit]

I just finished act 2... I dont think I can keep going

[fervent bough]

I'm off to watch YouTube

[supple river]

brother its going to get worse

[pure oar]

At the end of the day run cause it's gonna murder you

[eager widget]

Pablo

[junior skiff]

wall dash and corner getup jump ?

[toxic horizon]

Give it a day, you’ll be back

[dim shadow]

it will be mine

[valid gale]

silk song is cool

[slim thorn]

what

[tidal ruin]

Bad is subjective, but there are things we can name that the vast majority of people view as bad

[blazing seal]

hollow knight pablo believers rise up

[supple river]

no, we need edgy nuu in her goth phase

[rocky vessel]

surely silksong makes a trobbio dlc right?

[rocky cosmos]

good luck

[junior skiff]

yeah, menu as in paused

[nocturne summit]

I knoooow, I just tried the bell eater and im like... Ok, maybe tomorrow

[hybrid rune]

TROOOBIOO

[rocky vessel]

goat

[toxic horizon]

Trobbio x grimm yaoi

[supple river]

||bilewater?||

[full halo]

Help I can’t find this opening

[junior skiff]

check your save file playtime and steam play time to compare lol

[rustic quail]

maggot water my beloathed

[fervent forge]

bad boss, waste of silk for every time you just try to get out from the bench, respawning enemies, disappearing enemies, arguably the longest boss runback in the game

[rocky vessel]

goodness gracious flag on the play

[hybrid rune]

THEY'RE COUSINS MAN

[rocky cosmos]

its only subjective to a certain extent

[open obsidian]

Act 3 has some of the best fights in the game and you absolutly should do it, can't think of any bad act three bosses aside from the random hidden ones that don't matter like wote

[mossy sage]

>has never lost to a pale being god so far

gets ass kicked by random skinny boys with long weapons wearing bells 6 times

[rocky cosmos]

wdym waste of silk

[timid plinth]

instead of saying bilewater is a bad area, let's just say bilewater is an evil place ong

[gaunt saddle]

it's a breakable wall from the other side

[junior skiff]

that was pretty bad tbh

[toxic horizon]

You can headcanon them being related, I headcanon them being gay lovers

[nocturne summit]

Bell eater, my bad lol, I think it was its name

[hybrid rune]

It is evil but I still love it

[fervent forge]

you have to heal to get rid of infested water effect just leaving the bench area

[torn crane]

what hk ending does silksong follow ?

[supple river]

bell eater is the warmup

[tidal ruin]

Its subjective until we talk about what it does and doesn't do, whether the things it does are good/fun is up to the person (even if there is a widely shared consensus)

[rocky cosmos]

??? holy skill issue just grapple 💀💀

[supple river]

I would presume the secret ending?

[toxic horizon]

We don’t know, most likely godhome

[junior skiff]

I thought it was harder than some act 3 bosses tbh

[supple river]

Since hornet presumably saw the knight kill radiance

[nocturne summit]

I know, thats why I dont know if i'll keep going

[toxic horizon]

Its anything other than sealed siblings

[timid plinth]

the dream no more or the godhome

[supple river]

fr???

[torn crane]

ty alr

[rocky cosmos]

being fun isnt being good

[tidal ruin]

Most likely silksong follows dream no more, but embrace the void is also possible

[formal swallow]

I wish Seth had his own theme

[fervent forge]

homie, you have to path through water to get out of it, did you play your own "favourite area"?

[slender thistle]

Silksong is after the sealed siblings ending

[supple river]

no, you'll get stronger
If you made it to act 2 you have already progressed through an exceptionally hard game

[open obsidian]

If you are refering to groal run back uuuuh no that harpoon timing is super evil

[junior skiff]

fr fr, pinstress was easy af (and LL tbh)

[tidal ruin]

Point to where I said it was

[fervent forge]

uh isnt it after embrace the void where the seals break? or am i missing some lore

[coarse leaf]

awooo

[pure oar]

You gotta have some bad parts to contrast and highlight the good parts

[storm moon]

I agree btw 2nd try baby bilewater wasnt even that bad💀

[slender thistle]

Idk i was ragebaiting

[full halo]

How do u get to other side

[hybrid rune]

She annoying as well eith the stall fly tho

[junior skiff]

awooo :3

[open obsidian]

It's after dnm

[toxic horizon]

Its not that bad, way easier than even surface climb timings

[supple river]

HOLY HELL ITS FLEA #29 FROM SKONG

[gaunt saddle]

apostate key

[coarse leaf]

[slender thistle]

Thats clearly flea 17

[junior skiff]

annoying =/= hard

[fervent forge]

wiser words have never been spoken

[open obsidian]

No it's flea 4 moron

[rocky cosmos]

groal isnt bad
this "waste of silk" is ur skill issue
the only real annoying enemy of bilewater is the one who throws the darts and disappears into the water
groal's runback isnt bad

[hybrid rune]

Annoying is worse than hard tbh

[slender thistle]

L ragebait its obvious not

[toxic horizon]

I need skurry to name the fleas

[timid plinth]

i just run and im there

[bitter blade]

So true. Those dart guys are the worst

[hybrid rune]

I never found bilewater annoying, good routing and skill can trivialize it

[full halo]

I opened 2 of them is there more?

[rocky cosmos]

holy skill issue

[fervent forge]

homie saying having to go through water mandatorily so i waste the silk of a heal is a skill issue, you for real are ragebaiting you gave it out

[junior skiff]

but being annoying doesn't make it inherently harder, just gotta wait a bit instead of trying to rush her and it gets way easier

[hybrid rune]

Preach king

[tidal ruin]

Groal is an interesting boss, but I can't really form an opinion of him since all of my thoughts around him revolve around the runback as opposed to the actual fight

[fervent forge]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-ragebait-unsuccessful-ragebait-unsuccessful-gif-15226495446096725932

[timid plinth]

the only annoying thing for me is the gauntlet before groal, other than that, i think it is fine

[torn crane]

yo maybe im just garbage at metroidvanias but i cant find half of the locations and bosses yall are talking about on this channel 😭

[hybrid rune]

Ik I never said Pinteess was bard

[slender thistle]

Well then form a thought about groal not the runback

[toxic horizon]

There is water that clears the effect just before the boss btw

[junior skiff]

yeah, runback was harder than the boss lol

[limber valley]

how do i do the wish where ||i have to speak to fleamaster mooshka in the marrow|| except hes not there anymore .

[rocky cosmos]

isnt mandatory tho
youre just bad. i can literally clip how to avoid it tomorrow for u lmao

[hybrid rune]

I understand it tbh

[buoyant panther]

guys you can parry facing against an attack then insta hit while turning around?

[junior skiff]

huh

[rocky cosmos]

isnt

[bitter blade]

How do I Find more fleas. I’ve found a lot but not enough and I have no clue where more could be

[storm moon]

fr like I was avoiding that area the entire act 2 and by the time I went there its like is this it?

[hybrid rune]

Hard

[fringe karma]

architect crest my goat

[noble jolt]

chat

[fervent forge]

the water you have to go through is right after the bench and you pass through it to get out of that room

[toxic horizon]

Like I agree groal is an objectively unfun fight, but yall are making it worse for yourselves

[lusty stump]

Groal could earn my forgiveness if he wasn’t preceded by a gauntlet

[fringe karma]

the internet 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[tidal ruin]

Can't because I fought him like I was allergic to kirby knockoffs, so didn't really fight him the way I usually do to gauge bosses

[rustic quail]

huh thats weird
im gonna try to repeat that but that looks very interesting

[hybrid rune]

Architect mains are inferior to based shaman enjoyers

[fast shale]

Yes since parrying resets attack cooldown

[toxic horizon]

Theres water in the top right of the tall room before

[light plover]

Groal is a peak fight. Ppl just dont like the runback

[slim thorn]

i sent it to speedrun channel to see if i have luck with some explanations

[fringe karma]

you aren't even row row fight the powering and you think you can talk

[fervent forge]

"youre just bad" is quite ironic

[junior skiff]

yeah, just got confused cuz you replied to my message talking about pintress and proceeded to not talk about her lol

[slender thistle]

Ah fair

[crystal ledge]

do i need to kill specific enemies for the meat for broodfeast or just anything with the various tools

[rocky cosmos]

why tho

[nocturne summit]

But can we all agree that Phantom was a really fun boss to fight

[fast shale]

Anything with the tools (needs to be fleshy tho)

[hybrid rune]

Im confused now tbh,

[storm moon]

this area act 3? the upper one

[bitter blade]

You don’t have to go through water on Groal run back

[light plover]

Everything i tried worked except those ugly blue skinny enemies in the slab

[proper otter]

act 2 iirc

[rocky cosmos]

thats what im saying

[tidal ruin]

I was so vehemently scared of having to do the runback again (I didn't find the secret bench) that I played incredibly passive

[limber valley]

to get to act 3 do i have to complete ||ALL of the wishes on the board or just most?||

[storm moon]

theres a wooden wall how do I open it?

[crystal ledge]

k

[cyan gale]

gang i was thinking of a silksong run where i try and beat as few enemies until i reach architects
what are we thinking

[toxic horizon]

Water here clears maggots btw

[junior skiff]

no, just gotta use the right tools, its pretty confusing tho

[light plover]

Most

[timid plinth]

there are required ones you need to do

[proper otter]

it gets opened by shakra after buying all her maps i think

[hybrid rune]

At least my crest isn't made by ea with the pay to win, we get our funds the true old fashioned way, stabbing

[slim thorn]

does palestag count for journal or not? seems missable

[rocky cosmos]

17 optional wishes

[sinful lagoon]

having a little bit of a hard time grasping LL’s attack where she dashes forward along the ground with the tentacles behind her. How do i actually punish/consistently avoid that? obviously i can just float above but she likes to then do her jump attack if I do that. What’s the strat here boys?

[timid plinth]

nope

[proper otter]

yes but all the creatures from verdania get added to your journal after leaving it

[fervent forge]

ur telling me im bad for having to go through water that infects me just to get out of a room, and if it is not mandatory and ive misremembered you would think id sweat the hell to just leave the room instead of just easily hating on the eitherways worst area

[fringe karma]

just admit you got no bands 🙏

[sinful lagoon]

not palestag iirc

[slim thorn]

it included?

[hybrid rune]

Pogo her

[fast shale]

If you can miss an enemy, it gets added to journal after you miss it

[storm moon]

I think I have all of it?

[proper otter]

its in the journal iirc

[junior skiff]

I don't think it appears if you clear verdania without beating it

[marble swift]

So do I just gotta start grinding fleas to progress??

[junior skiff]

yeah lol

[hybrid rune]

I been farming in act 3 j got bands bro

[marble swift]

[slender thistle]

When do i fight zote

[hybrid rune]

All shops cleared

[toxic horizon]

It is pretty easily skippable btw, the timings are pretty good, and you have infinite tries on it

[marble swift]

Do you got a map of their locations or should I just look it up?

[rustic quail]

slow the video down, hornet does like a same frame turnaround, you did a jump it just instantly turned around??

[timid plinth]

or just wreath of purity

[fossil reef]

hell yeah

[junior skiff]

in the ducts there's a big flea that sells flea locations

[fringe karma]

zero strings around your wrist 🙏 start glazing your little poor man's shaman crest when I see some pearls on yo strings and a pale needle on yo belt

[quartz rock]

are the deliveries broken? its let me do the same one several times with the same npc dialogue

[slim thorn]

i think i did try to turnaround or smt but idk

[toxic horizon]

Its a repeatable quest

[hybrid rune]

Im predicting parasite thing or shade lord as dlc final bosses

[slender thistle]

No

[rocky cosmos]

blah blah blah
youre actually saying that bilewater is a 0/10 area bc it has an "bad boss, bad runback and annoying enemies" as if lore, level design, visual design, atmosphere, ambiant and soundtrack were meaningless lmao

[austere cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-bloons-bloons-tower-defense-bloons-tower-defense6-sunny-gif-21281214

[light plover]

Before the groal fight, theres a hidden room before the arena. Theres some silk webs there

[fossil reef]

the gray deliveries are repeatable the colored ones are not

[fervent forge]

listen closely, i died exactly twice to groal the great, everytime made me crash the hell out on it, do not think i would put enough time to infinite try the escape from a bench room to just start a runback that will make me jump off a cliff

[junior skiff]

but idk if you can get her before 20 fleas

[lusty stump]

I think they’re just a farming method

[quartz rock]

oh I see

[tidal ruin]

Here was my strat:
Jump above her first dash and float, wait for the second dash, and then
A. If she is close to you, immediately drop down, as she is garunteed to attack you upwards, at which point you can hit her 1-2 times from the air and after she lands
B. If she is far, she will dash a 3rd time, just wait for said dash to end and hit her once or twice

Hope this helps

[fossil reef]

yeah that would be cool

[storm moon]

I didnt even equip that until groal lol

[torn crane]

idk how to explain it, but ||GMS didnt feel all that impactful as a boss and was easy asf, is she really the final boss?||

[green python]

got the achievement

[light plover]

Bilewater has been my fav area so far. Just got into act 3 tho

[dusty acorn]

W or L act 2 boss?

[junior skiff]

no

[hybrid rune]

I got both Lil bro, been richer than Musk since p5 dropped

[rocky cosmos]

sometimes she uses the tentacle attack too

[toxic horizon]

There are also multiple areas on the leadup to the boss you can farm infinite silk from btw, the room before has a explody bug near the entrance that respawns when you exit the room

[nocturne summit]

Honestly I just used tools againts groal

[fossil reef]

why didnt i see my % completion after

[rocky cosmos]

best character in the game

[green python]

now the 100% one...

[torn crane]

alright that makes sense, but even so she didnt have the impact of the hollow knight

[hybrid rune]

I ain't playing skong with microtransactions on the ea crest Lil bro

[junior skiff]

it aint act 2 lol

[harsh jolt]

I figured a way without modding, but the game does need to be on PC.

1. Go to %appdata%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight Silksong\, and there will be a folder with a number
2. Inside, there will be a bunch of files that start with user#, and a folder called Restore_Points#
3. Copy all the ones with the same #, and replace # with a different one (say, user1 and Restore_Points1 would be for slot 1, so to copy it to slot 2, you want to change the # from 1 to 2)
4. Open the game, and in that copied file, click the 🔄 icon, so you can rollback to different points in the game that are really close to unlocking the themes

Namely, you one to do this for ||right before entering Act 2, and right before an ending||

[tidal ruin]

Ah yeah, but at that point you just gotta suck it up and accept not punishing her (unless you're fast and cool)

[dusty acorn]

im here in act 2, see i have seekers soul

[junior skiff]

yeah... i think they failed at that tbh

[toxic horizon]

It can be with beast crest skips

[gaunt tiger]

ngl
Im suprised team cherry was able to keep hornet balanced while making her fight in hk believable still

[slender thistle]

0.04% of silksongers btw

[rocky cosmos]

lol fast and cool 😭😭

[fringe karma]

talm bout sum being rich while saying he has no strings 😭

[junior skiff]

but idk if you're supposed to fight it in act 2 lol

[torn crane]

what do i do to access act 3 after doing all the requirements?

[dusty acorn]

you arnet

[storm moon]

??? its a mandatory boss wtf

[fervent forge]

lore? it has no effect on the game lore
level design? id just keep replaying mount fay if i wanted that
visual design? what have you never been through the citadel or deep docks
atmosphere is unique ill give that to you (unique in a disgusting way btw)
soundtrack is good but who loves an area that big with space to fit everything in the game there just for OST?

[rocky cosmos]

atp everyones doing fourth chorus skip

[fossil reef]

help

[dusty acorn]

talk to the guy in songclave

[light plover]

Fight GMS and use the needolin

[toxic horizon]

The dude in songclave should have new dialogue

[rocky cosmos]

actually skippable

[crystal ledge]

anyway its time for some shredding skewering and searing

[storm moon]

how does one do that

[junior skiff]

kill GMS with the trap set up

[torn crane]

alr ty all

[fringe karma]

If it's anything to you I didn't find bilewater or growl that bad

[crystal ledge]

wait fuck that sounds bad

[toxic horizon]

Just run out of the arena lol

[slender thistle]

Im feining for more silksong

[storm moon]

honestly wouldnt skip the boulder falling on top of his head

[toxic horizon]

Easiest way is with bind stalling but it is possible without

[fervent forge]

76% on steam

[fleet zinc]

So im wondering, just how long is the groal runback and what bench do i use to get there

[sour flame]

I beat ||lost lace|| now what

[tidal ruin]

Play the game beast crest no tools hitless with your feet on a tuesday

[junior skiff]

i did the fight without that lol

[storm moon]

legit never thought of that, so its like the beastfly skip

[slender thistle]

Its like 40% on xbox now

[toxic horizon]

Get mementos, and you’re done

[hybrid rune]

I got strings, I just would rather spend em on a drink then on some cowards broken as hell blizzard ahh bugs

[junior skiff]

now gotta do 100% and all mementos

[sour flame]

Don’t care bout those

[slender thistle]

I ship out to the army for bootcamp on monday i dont have any tuesdays left

[torn crane]

guys savage beastfly wasnt even hard i beat him 2nd try and the runback was easy asf

[junior skiff]

then you're done !

[sour flame]

I think I’m prepared to do p5 now

[full halo]

How many apostate locks are there

[harsh jolt]

... Oh no, now I know what the next fireb0rn video is gonna be. One Knight, vs 4 Hornets

[toxic horizon]

Then you’re done with the game, other than steel soul

[storm moon]

I usually go for what the game suggests me to do like that one since its fun

[harsh jolt]

I think 2, but I could be wrong

[light plover]

Only tiktokers found it hard

[sour flame]

P5 here I come

[torn crane]

and im actually pissed that i didnt know about ||the warden kidnapping you in act 1|| i missed out on sm of the game 😭

[tidal ruin]

I'm honestly surprised at 77% of people getting to act 2
Not because its hard, but because a lot of people tend to quit metroidvanias early on because they usually have slow starts

[toxic horizon]

I mean theoretically we can port over the knights moveset to silksong

[tidal ruin]

Sunday works, just a little easier

[fervent forge]

from the marked bench down, with all kinds of enemies and infested water in the way (also has ||disappearing enemies' waves before you even fight him||)

[slender thistle]

No no its just not the same

[junior skiff]

i thought the air currents were for a new attack with all hands but it never happened lol, ended up killing it without riding the currents

[toxic horizon]

Missed out on act 1 wings smh

[torn crane]

im a little mad that they nerfed moorwing and sister splinter, they werent that hard once you got their movesets

[harsh jolt]

Nice, one Hornet vs 4 Knights then

[storm moon]

it was an easy boss anyway but still props for just nailing it

[torn crane]

i actually beat sister splinter first try, moorwing took like 6

[tidal ruin]

Can't wait for people to mod tk into the game

[fervent forge]

1 good job, 2 skill issue

[fair wraith]

does anyone have any skins for the Silksong Healthbar mod? im tryna use some of the old HK ones but it seems to be coded differently and the images dont like to work together

[slender thistle]

Sister splinter nerf made no sense to me

[harsh jolt]

you're not alone there

[rocky cosmos]

"IT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE GAME LORE" LMAOOO biggest cap
bilewater its the cost of pharloom looking so pure and perfect up in the citadel. the whole “ascend, rise, follow the faith” thing only works because something underneath got left to rot. its like the kingdom built its glory on top of decay, a metaphor and also an critique aswell to capitalism where progress at the top always means exploitation below. bilewater is the shadow-price of the citadel's progress and expansion; a beautiful area of crystal clear waters completely ruined by urbanization and industrialization, even the soundtrack hits with this sense of loss, like youre walking through a place that was sacrificed so the place above could shine, its as if you could feel the size of the citadel suffocating bilewater. and the way the game shows that is smart, bilewater feels punishing, hostile, like it doesnt want you there, its design makes you feel that injustice reflecting it all on you. that frustration fits perfectly with the theme of stagnation vs movement, while the citadel is all about climbing higher, bilewater keeps you stuck in bile, kind of forcing you to face the side of pharloom nobody talks about and also reminding you that ascension and expansion always has a great cost behind it

mount fay surely has a better level design because the only purpose of this area is to have a good level design but the one in bilewater is still good, even though it is purposefully punishing

bilewater is visually beautiful wdym
also the atmosphere being disgusting or hostile isnt a bad thing since this is its goal

[wild rampart]

https://vxtwitter.com/ZeroK_04/status/1971283769152922025

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https://t.co/xyywJdJ3Fs

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[toxic horizon]

They only nerfed her adds, which I think is fair, they are annoying if you’re not using silk skills properly

[fringe karma]

You probably ain't even buying the rich man stuff hiding in the halfway points cellar 🤣🤣 guts probably drowning in that weak ass over the counter drinks fella serves.

[light plover]

Ya ppl complain cause they dont want to learn the game. This generation of gamers nowadays

[timid plinth]

"IT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE GAME LORE" LMAOOO biggest cap
bilewater its the cost of pharloom looking so pure and perfect up in the citadel. the whole “ascend, rise, follow the faith” thing only works because something underneath got left to rot. its like the kingdom built its glory on top of decay, a metaphor and also an critique aswell to capitalism where progress at the top always means exploitation below. bilewater is the shadow-price of the citadel's progress and expansion; a beautiful area of crystal clear waters completely ruined by urbanization and industrialization, even the soundtrack hits with this sense of loss, like youre walking through a place that was sacrificed so the place above could shine, its as if you could feel the size of the citadel suffocating bilewater. and the way the game shows that is smart, bilewater feels punishing, hostile, like it doesnt want you there, its design makes you feel that injustice reflecting it all on you. that frustration fits perfectly with the theme of stagnation vs movement, while the citadel is all about climbing higher, bilewater keeps you stuck in bile, kind of forcing you to face the side of pharloom nobody talks about and also reminding you that ascension and expansion always has a great cost behind it

mount fay surely has a better level design because the only purpose of this area is to have a good level design but the one in bilewater is still good, even though it is purposefully punishing

bilewater is visually beautiful wdym
also the atmosphere being disgusting or hostile isnt a bad thing since this is its goal

[fleet zinc]

Lifesaver I didn’t know that existed (ig it’s a one way wall) I was using bell beast bench

[fervent forge]

id rather die than read all that but might aswell do cuz im bored

[junior skiff]

got that knight in me, no gimmick kills, just nail

[fringe karma]

who here reading all ts

[rustic quail]

i thought that the ||far fields kidnapper guy|| was the only way for that to happen.. i genuinely had no clue where to go 😭

[wild rampart]

royal waterways:

[severe cosmos]

Midway my wall-text

[torn crane]

i was new to the game at the time bro 😭

[hard lodge]

From what I gather moorwing is supposed to be in greymoor? I have ran all over the area, and never came across them

[rocky cosmos]

okay

[fringe karma]

did you move the flea caravan

[toxic horizon]

Did you move the fleas

[light plover]

Bottom left area. Where its flat

[rustic quail]

if you got the flea caravan there you cant fight them until the fleas are moved

[timid plinth]

im saving this copypasta

[hard lodge]

I moved the felas

[torn crane]

there was a dude in greymour as well, i encountered them both and killed them both without knowing that they can just send you to the slammer

[junior skiff]

everyone was lol

[fervent forge]

not an excuse, you had all of hollow knight to train on

[rocky cosmos]

royal waterways isnt even close to bilewater

[tidal ruin]

Ass jim is objevtively

[thick steppe]

flea dodge is complete rng its so stupid

[toxic horizon]

You skipped them for a bit

[junior skiff]

fleas* jk

[wild rampart]

your name checks out

[hard lodge]

I moved the fleas to greymoor, but not on from greymoor

[fervent forge]

both suck, royal waterways had godhome tho...

[rustic quail]

id entirely forgotten about him and when i found him i was in SHOCK

[full halo]

I still can’t figure out a way in here

[tidal ruin]

Well yeah, they're in completely different kingdoms an unknown distance away

[toxic horizon]

Ass Jim is also now an act 1 boss

[rustic quail]

from the right side parkour climb theres a breakable wall

[torn crane]

ill be happy when they finally add godhome to this gmae

[lusty stump]

Where is weavenest Alta?

[timid plinth]

royal waterways is better because the pale king built that place

[light plover]

They key is un another diff area

[light plover]

Look around the moss area

[junior skiff]

the mites of greymoor remind me of royal waterways in a sense

[harsh jolt]

||you drew it yourself ||

[slender thistle]

When i go to the bathroom does it lead to putrified ducts

[toxic horizon]

Check the starting area for doors

[torn crane]

hollownest propaganda

[rocky cosmos]

ty

[full halo]

I already unlocked the locks this isn’t a lock

[junior skiff]

top right* of moss grotto, behind a weaver door

[slender thistle]

Pale king propganda

[toxic horizon]

Its not propaganda if its right

[tidal ruin]

No, bone bottom (because "bottom")

[toxic horizon]

Top right*

[slender thistle]

Oh right what was i thinking

[junior skiff]

oh yeah, knew where it was just wrote it wrong lol

[rustic quail]

vaguely here ish (hope the arrows helped)

[thick steppe]

at a certain point in flea dodge you can do nothing wrong and instantly lose

[rocky cosmos]

you could possibly be right ill give you that

[sturdy mortar]

i'm stuck at 99%, idk where the last 2 spool fragments are

[hard lodge]

The mist was fun, not sure why these ladies screamed at me, and wasn't even sure if I wasn't going around in circles, but compared to bilewater and sinner's road it wasn't gross at least.

[slender thistle]

nuh uh

[full halo]

😭😭 ty

[torn crane]

i got the big silk AOE attack and was pissed that she didnt scream out EGALE

[pseudo orchid]

the ||Mushroom|| quest is taken into the completion % ?

[proper otter]

have u checked ||under the elevator in whiteward?||

[torn crane]

there is also no shaw

[rustic quail]

angry that literally every enemy but her says shaw

[junior skiff]

pretty hard to say but did you get the one in high halls?

[torn crane]

#makehornetsayshawagain

[potent minnow]

I am utterly cooked. •-• ||act 3|| is an abomination of torture

[torn crane]

#bringbackshaw

[tidal ruin]

I started the game and immediately gave it a negative review because no shaw
(Now everyone praise me for my funny and original joke)

[junior skiff]

there is a mod for that, but it should be in the base game

[torpid moth]

can you get mushroom ending in act 3

[slender thistle]

Its a slur she has matured since hk so she stopped saying it

[timid plinth]

i knew hornet is racist

[sturdy mortar]

lemme check

[torn crane]

bring back hornet slurs

[rustic quail]

can you get it in act 2??

[rocky cosmos]

ACTUALLY silksong not having ONE SINGLE shaw in the ENTIRE game is diabolical

[torn crane]

mod name?

[junior skiff]

should've said it in the true ending lol

[torpid moth]

i assume

[fervent forge]

you can only get it in act 3

[crystal ledge]

does architect crest give the shredded organs for broodfeast

[junior skiff]

idk lol just search for it

[torpid moth]

oh sweet

[torn crane]

k

[tidal ruin]

I do like the GARAMA but I think shaw would be nice

[timid plinth]

only tools work

[light plover]

I just use the drill

[ivory lantern]

I don't think so
The thing to activate the quest is locked behind silk soar

[fervent forge]

no since you need ||silk soar to reach the tablet to start the quest||

[junior skiff]

i think its like "original voice lines" or something like that

[crystal ledge]

WAIT NO THEY DONT

[torpid moth]

0 shaws and like 50 garamas

[sinful lagoon]

under the elevator in whiteward and at the top of high halls. trust.

[rustic quail]

thats what i thought but i was thinking maybe there was another spot i was missing
i bet you beast crest could help you get up there

[ivory lantern]

Yes on any of the charged attacks(needle strike, dash, pogo)

[crystal ledge]

ARCHITECT NAIL ART JUST GAVE ME LIKE 3 PER ENEMY

[thick steppe]

hardr than any other boss in the game

[slender thistle]

I wish the garama button instead cycled through hornets hk voice lines

[sturdy mortar]

Trust

[timid plinth]

wait really? damn

[crystal ledge]

yeah i js figured that out

[proper otter]

where is seth in shellwood?

[rocky cosmos]

i love both guarana and shaw
maybe they should mix all her lines in the taunt button, instead of just being guarana

[rustic quail]

i NEED to know who sherma's va is though

[potent minnow]

Now i understand why they say to do ||savage beastfly before act 3||

[junior skiff]

yeah, cus it shreds

[rustic quail]

same for karmelita

[past fjord]

Can I only see my completion percentage when beating act 3 ? Also how many endings in act 2?

[rustic quail]

it makes the forebrothers and groal worse too apparently 😭

[ivory lantern]

Yeah for that quest I just used the spike traps, architect, and the fire summon tool

[junior skiff]

just beat the game again lol

[weary gorge]

Okay but upgraded savage beast sounds fun lol

[slender thistle]

After the void projectiles attack if you jump above them is perfect time to heal

[potent minnow]

NOOOOOO 😭😭😭😭😭

[rustic quail]

are they listed in the credits?

[torpid moth]

bro i thought forebrothers act 3 was bad that’s hell

[sinful lagoon]

you… can’t do groal in act 3

[proper otter]

Siobhan Owen iirc

[junior skiff]

they should be

[slender thistle]

Where did u get this info?

[sturdy mortar]

Oh.. i think i already have both of them

[ivory lantern]

.... you have to do groal to get to act 3 tho?

[potent minnow]

God damn it i shouldn't had upgraded 😭😭😭😭

[junior skiff]

@storm moon what did you mean by that?

[rustic quail]

someone cheated the seeker soul in 😭

[sinful lagoon]

is he not literally required to access act 3???

[rocky cosmos]

isnt sherma's va lauren koopowitz?

[fervent forge]

no, the only way to reach that secret area is silk soar, since even if you manage to enter the first bit of it you wouldnt be able to cling to the wall since its made of fungal and mushrooms and doesnt let you wall cling

[past fjord]

Can I only see my completion percentage when beating act 3 ? Also how many endings in act 2?

[sinful lagoon]

you have to kill him to get the seeker soul

[rustic quail]

i thought that was for shakra

[ivory lantern]

Not until 3, 2.5

[rocky cosmos]

also shakra, nuu, last judge and more...

[crystal ledge]

well that broodfeast quest was easy only took like 15 minutes

[storm moon]

this one reminded me of this, except maybe the dead body lol

[junior skiff]

you do need to get the soul that is after him

[fervent forge]

you can check it in act 3, not certainly after completing it

[junior skiff]

ohhh lol

[sinful lagoon]

and the only way there is to kill him, yes?

[light plover]

I didnt really care tht much for that fatty

[rocky cosmos]

yes

[junior skiff]

i think

[fervent forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304145284883812382/1335676281202675763/SPOILER_togif-7.gif

[sinful lagoon]

istg i’m being gaslit lmao okay ty

[strange night]

Ok

[weak lantern]

is there a way to get mods through steam, or have to go through nexus?

[rocky cosmos]

i got baited

[timid plinth]

my phone is broken

[storm moon]

we did just get the poshanka from shakra

[slender thistle]

Can you poshonka with shakrs anywhere if you have the tool equipped

[junior skiff]

bro, you already sent that

[strange night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304145284883812382/1335676281202675763/SPOILER_togif-7.gif

[fervent forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pollop889-gif-3245691328781964997

[crystal ledge]

haha nice

[rocky cosmos]

finally got to act4

[strange night]

6 7

[full halo]

Where did the flea master go? He was in greymoor

[timid plinth]

"IT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE GAME LORE" LMAOOO biggest cap
bilewater its the cost of pharloom looking so pure and perfect up in the citadel. the whole “ascend, rise, follow the faith” thing only works because something underneath got left to rot. its like the kingdom built its glory on top of decay, a metaphor and also an critique aswell to capitalism where progress at the top always means exploitation below. bilewater is the shadow-price of the citadel's progress and expansion; a beautiful area of crystal clear waters completely ruined by urbanization and industrialization, even the soundtrack hits with this sense of loss, like youre walking through a place that was sacrificed so the place above could shine, its as if you could feel the size of the citadel suffocating bilewater. and the way the game shows that is smart, bilewater feels punishing, hostile, like it doesnt want you there, its design makes you feel that injustice reflecting it all on you. that frustration fits perfectly with the theme of stagnation vs movement, while the citadel is all about climbing higher, bilewater keeps you stuck in bile, kind of forcing you to face the side of pharloom nobody talks about and also reminding you that ascension and expansion always has a great cost behind it

mount fay surely has a better level design because the only purpose of this area is to have a good level design but the one in bilewater is still good, even though it is purposefully punishing

bilewater is visually beautiful wdym
also the atmosphere being disgusting or hostile isnt a bad thing since this is its goal

[fervent forge]

zawg at least use it a while later i just sent it 20 sec ago 🙏

[sturdy mortar]

WAIT THANK U, DIDN'T HAVE THE ELEVATOR ONE

[torn crane]

there are levels to this shit?

[thick steppe]

ive done everything in silksong except steel soul 🙁

[junior skiff]

just gotta get 6273 more

[strange night]

Tldr

[fervent forge]

act 4 : shower

[timid plinth]

tbh idt ill do steel soul

[light plover]

Take a break bro

[rustic quail]

steel soul DOES have its own boss :3

[slender thistle]

Any tips for beating radiance in act 4

[full halo]

Where is flea master after greymoor

[rocky cosmos]

yes in the act4 bilewater every single area becomes infested with maggot watter and has 10 new and more difficult versions of groal the great

[hybrid rune]

Just cause im frugal dknt mean im broke, just means im smarte than you

[ivory lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-gif-cube-going-circle-loading-gif-16981665

[fervent forge]

collab with the knight

[slender thistle]

Last judge arena

[sinful lagoon]

mwahmwah

[raw brook]

Guys, I’ve done it. After two days, I completed ||The Great Tastes of Pharloom||. Screw the ||Courier quests||, I’m never doing one ever again

[slender thistle]

I sacraficed him at start of act 4

[rustic quail]

it'd be totally awesome if we got to fight || hivequeen vespa|| in the ||red memory|| though (Act 3 spoiler)

[junior skiff]

you didn't follow them? how could you 😟

[light plover]

Silksong: Door Dash

[fervent forge]

L move shoulda sacrificed lace, radiance fears the knight

[strange night]

That's the only one with a timer at least, they're actually a pretty good source of money

[rocky cosmos]

mold the void and train a void being capable of sealing her forever inside a black egg idk

[hexed sigil]

What's probably the fasting boss kill crest build? Wanderer + fleabrew + poison or nah?

[ivory lantern]

Where last judge was

[slender thistle]

No cost too great i guess

[timid plinth]

flinstate

[light plover]

I did the courier without knowing about the double jump

[full halo]

Idk he just disappeared on his own after I found Vog…?

[rustic quail]

flintslate is a bigger dps mult than poison fleabrew iirc

[hexed sigil]

Oh yeah Flintslate

[junior skiff]

fragile flower 2: electric bugaloo

[timid plinth]

why not have all three of them

[ivory lantern]

Tacks

[fervent forge]

an easier delicate flower quest tbh (yap time : i actually broke the rasher by bumping into the lever door in the room im supposed to deliver it to)

[junior skiff]

you found vog before moving them from greymore???

[rustic quail]

ive heard somewhere that pollip pouch decreases flintslate damage

[full halo]

Uh yeah? Why😭 I talked to them before finding vog and nothing happened

[ivory lantern]

Correct

[light plover]

What does moving the flea caravan to fleatopia have to do with the true ending requirements. Kinda cheesed i missed that

[raw brook]

Same here

[timid plinth]

oh really? also i forgot there's only one red on wanderer

[tawny palm]

groal fucking sucks

[slender thistle]

The fleas save pharloom

[rustic quail]

wanderer does pretty close to the same dps as hunter's at max focus anyways (without crits tbf), so hunter's might actually be significantly better with two reds

[bitter blade]

He spits too

[rocky cosmos]

new silksong dlc delicate flower quest where you need to pass two savage beastflies on the way and cross bilewater (fighting with the entire groal arena during) to deliver and win a shattered rosaries necklace

[junior skiff]

it requires a certain number of fleas to get them to move, i just got every flea I could so i moved them all the way to the last spot before getting vog lol

[tawny palm]

i mean... yeah

[ivory lantern]

Flea Brew
Flint Slate
Tacks
Pin badge

[slender thistle]

With beast crest pogo

[light plover]

We need a trial of fools

[tawny palm]

how do i cheese groal im tired of trying

[rocky cosmos]

just kill me already

[ivory lantern]

Probably*

[junior skiff]

make it so the maggots break the flower

[tawny palm]

coral tower

[severe cosmos]

This is going to be the best piece of thing i have ever writen, and it is me complaining on a region of a garama bug game

[full halo]

Where should the flea caravan be to satisfy Act 3 req? If mine is in last judge arena do I still need to find fleas?

[light plover]

I cant even get up there

[fervent forge]

the hidden lore you dont realise behind silksong is that the main characters arent either of hornet, lace, or even gms, but the powerful fleas that put themselves in hard areas intentionally to train you to reach them so you are better at the game as hornet, and moving to fleatopia is just the rest for their efforts to be in a safe place

[rocky cosmos]

just wait for his attacks and pogo him 😭😭 there is a very easy way to cheese him by staying under the platforms on the sides inside the maggot water

[rustic quail]

beast does the single most dps out of all crests with nail swings when maxed multipliers but im pretty sure hunter's or architects might be able to be the best. wanderer's could technically be the best with rng manipulation or insane luck but like 😭

[ivory lantern]

Nah they're all easy if you overdose
Drugs > maggots

[bold sierra]

||ducts||

[light plover]

Real

[full halo]

What

[stray rampart]

How can I write something here and protect from spoilers?

[wooden loom]

Im pretty sure throwing a pimpillo in his mouth when he inhales does more damage

[severe cosmos]

What if you overdose the maggots?

[tawny palm]

im zero on shards rn

[timid plinth]

what is the dmg multiplier on crit

[bold sierra]

sorry i was trying to answer your question, i gave you the name of the zone

[junior skiff]

||ducts, of the putrified variety||

[ivory lantern]

Thats what "kills" them

[rustic quail]

put a || on each side of the text like so: ||

[stray rampart]

Thank u

[rustic quail]

3x i think?

[severe cosmos]

What if the maggots overdoses you?

[full halo]

Ohh sorry I had a brain fart, thank you

[timid plinth]

goddamn

[tawny palm]

i thought of getting overdosed on lifeblood but i dont wanna grind shards

[slender thistle]

It might be time to get grinding

[hybrid bear]

do you guys know about pilby pilgrim? do you know how to save him?

[wooden loom]

Damn that sucks, gotta grind

[junior skiff]

there might be more in other areas tho

[rocky cosmos]

and a 300x increased spawn of this mf

[burnt obsidian]

IF YOU TAUNT IT ||Calls the Bell Beast!||

[mortal bluff]

Me 4 years ago: Bet Silksong is coming out soon!

[fervent forge]

or if ur on pc highlight the text you wanna hide and right click then click the eye button

[past fjord]

So I will be getting to act 3 soon ish I guess. My understanding is that ... It's pretty beefy by itself right? Changes a lot and isn't like a minor thing ?

[tawny palm]

nah im gonna do it no tools cuz i hate myself

[bold sierra]

is this a good place to ask folks opinion on which tools would be best to equip? i am having a hard time deciding which blue tools to throw in my ||wanderers crest||

[timid plinth]

almost every area is technically changed

[junior skiff]

and make hornet have peroid cramps every 30 secs like in the start of act 1 and 3

[marble swift]

So do I have to find every flea out there to unlock act 3 or do I only have to find a certain amount?

[wooden loom]

I can’t believe silksong is finally out more some reason the release felt kinda underwhelming after waiting 7 years

[slender thistle]

Top 5 worst enemies in the game btw

[past fjord]

I assume some more than others

[mortal bluff]

Yeah. It’s got quite a bit behind it.

[light plover]

If ur aggressive i would use the one that increases the speed of the bind animation

[rustic quail]

oh yeah speaking of taunting, use it more it apparently makes your first hit on an enemy do 50% more damage

[rocky cosmos]

you shouldnt adapt to the meta or anything. play whatever you think is best, whatever fits your playstyle best. stop adapting to the "best" playstyle and play your own way

[rocky cosmos]

top 3

[tawny palm]

wait right
i will do that against the groal gauntlet

[marble swift]

^?

[thick steppe]

les goo i got a hot spring

[slender thistle]

What does bellhome look like with the paint

[light plover]

I didnt find every flea