sk-discussion

[brave timber]

gg guys its real.

[timid plinth]

talk to yarnaby, she's located at greymoor below the entrance of wisp thicker, the top left side

[dull cape]

and that's OK, some people just want to get through it, check it off, move onto something else. but not usually people in discord discussion channels

[nocturne beacon]

real

[dense quarry]

Can't wait

[jaunty robin]

You have a parasite you got two routes

1. ||Beat the game||

2. ||Find yarnaby and do her quest which requires you to go to sinners road to retrieve an item. If you do this first you can’t get the ending the game locks it||

[granite salmon]

Dw it takes a long time I got to around 50 hours lol

[meager thistle]

this is a very stupid question

but is there going to be a third game?

[warm violet]

im 34 hours in and only have ||one melody in act 2||

[nocturne beacon]

OH THAT LOCKED BELLHOME?

[glacial kelp]

pablo

[timid plinth]

yep

[next blaze]

best crest in the game 🧘

[granite salmon]

Ya with Dorothy and the wizard of oz

[jaunty robin]

Most likely

[nocturne beacon]

YESSS I KNEW IT DID SOMETHING

[wild panther]

Yes, you are allowed to believe that and uninstall. If the game is badly made why do you still play it as if the game is forcing you to be miserable with it?

[noble nacelle]

dude you need more food to hibernate, hurry rain is coming soon

[rough quiver]

TC said they wanted to move to a new ip I think

[dense quarry]

Hollow Knight: Pablo

Apparently

[meager thistle]

what's ip mean?

[rough dawn]

guys what tool i have to use to get the third item in the hunter's quest??

[glacial kelp]

wait that's the fucking rainworld pip counter i just realized....

[rough quiver]

diff series

[meager thistle]

noooooo

[glacial kelp]

intellectual property

[timid plinth]

there's a lil quest you have to do before you can remove it so, talk to her to know what to do

[rough dawn]

team cherry leave it alone dont let anyone touch your precious game

[meager thistle]

the true ending made it seem like there was gonna be a third game 😔

[obsidian mulch]

What’s the fastest route to act 2 guys? Is it ||sinner road into phantom?||

[jaunty robin]

Look at my reply too

[next blaze]

yes

[rough dawn]

yup

[glacial kelp]

yes since you don't need bellshrines

[timid plinth]

or if you want, you can beat the game with it for the cursed ending

[near root]

I’ve had lots of fun with it, the issue is I just keep getting fucking dragged down by how often some bad boss, especially the finally one, shows up or how lackluster a lot of the rewards and mechanics are.
Like, I basically only have the clawline, double jump, and float as new things I can do compared to the start of the game because I have to save all my silk for healing because she does 2 damage and reduces my silk each hit, and all my shards are used up.
Even with the pins, when I’m not using Architect, mainly I just use ones to make it so I can heal more easily because, again, double damage is everywhere in this game.

[next blaze]

i love that route sm i used it for rashers quest

[raven tinsel]

I’m stuck in ||Coral Tower|| hell guys

Someone pray for me

[dull cape]

doesn't matter. I got my first credits at 69h 15m. Take your time, be as thorough as you want to be.

[quick frost]

is there a way to fix bone botton in ||a3?||

[obsidian mulch]

Also today I lost like 400 rosaries just to find 4 fleas I feel scammed

[quick frost]

truly sad

[obsidian mulch]

No way I sent that dude to the fleas and he still charging me

[rough dawn]

gang what things can i miss by going into act 3?? not counting the shakra or garmond & zaza logs, i mean like any tools or item

[ornate torrent]

nothing

[glacial kelp]

you can't miss any of those

[raven tinsel]

The first room I can beat fairly easily. It’s when those big buff things come. I have no way of getting close and hitting them.

[obsidian mulch]

Garmond was an easy duel, is there something to him after the duel?

[timid plinth]

nope, the pilgrims moved to the previous flea caravan location on the marrow, they are fine

[rough dawn]

oh so am i ready to go??

[near root]

I mean when the challenge is “I require you to just back away from me after each hit you get or else I’ll hit you with a short telegraph attack” it doesn’t really feel fun to beat it either way

[raven tinsel]

69 heh noice

[glacial kelp]

if you got cursed child ye

[quick frost]

i did not know that ima go rq ty

[jaunty robin]

Yes because the game would remotely be too easy if you could heal three to four hearts when everything else does one damage

This game is a second installment. Don’t treat it like a first. It’s a revision with different enemies and characters. Team cherry said they don’t want the game to be easy at all

[noble nacelle]

wormways early sharpdart; go to bilewater, get captured and taken to slab; go to mount fay and do it only with sharpdart, swift step, cloak, and walljump; use wings to enter underworks through wisp thicket

[rough dawn]

i did it like an hour ago lol

[oak plume]

just beat silksong for the first time
took me 21 hours 🗣️

[smoky bridge]

I mean... Most of the bosses in the game only give you one or two hits in per window.

[sinful swift]

Just lost 3394 rosaries

[warm violet]

... pick a new crest? learn to dodge? i almost never use silk skills

[crimson ember]

I’ve gotten to act 3 and still haven’t fought Phantom

[obsidian mulch]

That route I saw but way too hard for me at this age

[dull cape]

if you are truly speedrunning with real existing routes, then all routes are almost exactly the same time. they're not all the same difficulty though.

[tawny relic]

game is well made bucko

[smoky bridge]

If they let you whale on them like in Hollow knight, it'd be too easy.

[nocturne beacon]

real

[obsidian mulch]

That Fay mountain climb looked brutal

[wild panther]

you can react to every attack if you are positioned well in the fight, at least in phase 1

[timid plinth]

yep

[noble nacelle]

nah bro its ok only took me like 10hrs you can do it

[nocturne beacon]

i mean i COULD probably beat the final boss with curse it's like super easy for some reason

[glacial kelp]

we should add a crashout channel icl

[obsidian mulch]

He’s an alt route so makes sense, you did judge path

[obsidian mulch]

That’s great, 10 hours to finish Fay speedrun (will take me 15-20)

[noble nacelle]

dude i thought the same thing but apparently i suck now because i tried final boss cursed and i can barely make it to phase 2 😭

[jaunty robin]

It’s not up to if you could, if you want one of the 4(or five) endings you should go for it

[near root]

Make contact damage 1 hp, and make some attacks only do 1 too, and also change binding 1 hp and slightly faster, and a lot less expensive. Bam, now it’s not so difficulty for me to fit in using silk skills

[spiral pasture]

half of it is gonna be groal and high halls

[smoky bridge]

So far I have not really encountered a boss that is downright unfair.

There are some gauntlets that can get real bullshit but you can also like. Pimpillo the fuck out of everything.

[jaunty robin]

This is a horrible idea

[smoky bridge]

No, that'd mean you have to redesign all the goddamn bosses

[dull cape]

pimpillo was one of the only tools I never felt helped me at all
even rosary cannon had a place

[obsidian mulch]

Groal wasn’t that bad imo

[nocturne beacon]

you're telling me
||i have to go to SINNERS ROAD while CURSED to get this thing out||

[glacial kelp]

"turn it back into hollow knight"

[smoky bridge]

If you can piecemeal heals, like in Hollow knight, the bosses must completely alter the way they work.

[next blaze]

is it just me or is this boss unnecessarily hard for no reason

[spiral pasture]

ive never used pimpillo outside of getting the environmental entries

[warm violet]

thats a new game bro. Binding heals three to keep you feeling like you are either at full health or on the verge of deat

[noble nacelle]

wait whats wrong with high halls? oh wait the arena at the end nvm

[obsidian mulch]

It’s much easier with harpoon

[glacial kelp]

you can hit him through the floor lmao

[spiral pasture]

the gauntlet specifically

[dry star]

Cursed child or just abyss
And get witch crest

[empty steeple]

which channel would be most fitting to post my bosses tier list thoughts? (behind spoiler text ofc)

[strange pebble]

This boss was so cool (spoil act 3)

[rough quiver]

genuinely don’t get high halls. Beat the gauntlet on my 5th try, which is completely reasonable for a gauntlet with a bench right nearby and 2 boss waves

[smoky bridge]

The reason the heal works like that, is because now you aren't limited between "I can heal now because there's a window"

[dull cape]

the route is pretty easy actually

[warm violet]

air spikes with poison\

[glacial kelp]

honestly this one

[jaunty robin]

If you don’t want the ending with the curse then yes you have to do that quest which is located in sinners road

[smoky bridge]

Now it's "I have silk, I can heal"

[near root]

Those ones I can stay on them, see their telegraph and get out of the way then get back to attacking and repeat the process. LL feels like I have to just stop doing anything and wait for the window to attack because if I stay on her I won’t get a chance to dodge cause her attacks are too fast

[tawny relic]

thats a normal easy enemy just go under the platform and hit it once every while

[fervent bough]

The ||First sinner|| fight is absolutely insane. I love it so much

[placid zealot]

||how am i supposed to read the bell beast like bro what||

[glacial kelp]

it's mostly due to how early you can do it
it's absolutely terrible in a speedrun

[fervent bough]

They're such a cool boss

[lusty stag]

yay hunter memento

[nocturne beacon]

and i have to do it all without THE COMPASS

[ornate torrent]

silksong rewards knowing how to dodge a lot more than hk by design, also it's just a more difficult game. using silk skills when ur good enough can still be justified because they can do so much damage, and with defensive ones its better to use 4 spools to prevent 2 masks than use 9 to heal

[smoky bridge]

It's just that kind of boss? Take it slow, pop a Flintslate.

[wild panther]

If you cant fit in silk skills, its not because of this, its because you are getting hit.. a lot.

[meager thistle]

this game is amazing but i wish it was longer 😔

[noble nacelle]

me too but i recently did another run and it took me like 30 minutes 😭 ...maybe its because i didnt have any tools and 5hp...

[dry star]

Compass is useless tbh

[dull cape]

that's a different game called hollow knight

[crystal ledge]

how the actual fuck do i get down there istg theres no platform in sight

[meager thistle]

how do people struggle on groal i beat him in two attempts

[glacial kelp]

stress from maggots prolly

[dull cape]

haha. you can do it, but why do it?

[lusty stag]

i hope in the dlc's we are going to get more bellhome upgrades

[noble nacelle]

nah i used it a lot for my first playthrough but after that the map is basically implanted into your head so yeah ig

[fervent bough]

I beat him first try too

[warm violet]

reported to the mods for slander

[smoky bridge]

Trying to turn the healing system back into HollowKnight one completely changes the entire game cause now you can heal anywhere and anytime really.

[crystal ledge]

area i mised

[dry star]

The humble silkline

[glacial kelp]

unless you're an arch main

[near root]

Pick what crest? Reapers? I’m not struggling with range. Hunter? The pogo sucks. Witch? Bad heal. Shaman? Literally unusable for the average player, at least against difficult bosses, because healing drains away all your silk.

[jaunty robin]

I wish I could go back to see what happens if you fight with the curse

[nocturne beacon]

bro its literally the best charm in the game wdym

[meager thistle]

i didn't even use tools either so idk what people r struggling on exactly

[near root]

Bros glazing is insane

[glacial kelp]

i guess im not an average player

[dry star]

I just be finding myself via landmarks

[warm violet]

wanderers crest. pogo everything

[noble nacelle]

fragile strength better

[smoky bridge]

Hunter pogo is one of the best.

[tawny relic]

''glazing'' and i said the game is well made

[crystal ledge]

CLAWline dont cover shit on that distance

[glacial kelp]

qs smh

[empty steeple]

all bosses tiered in order MAJOR SPOILERS ||aside from act 2 shakra and garmond||

[near root]

Oh, maybe if they’d had some more playtesting done they could have designed the bosses this way to begin with

[dull cape]

does this help

[fervent bough]

This boss is absolutely slaughtering me without tools or hp

[noble nacelle]

oh yeah mb forgot but strength is definitely more accessible

[ornate torrent]

imo its generally the best for combat

[dry star]

oh that's the fucking kid crying I was concerned something was being killed

[warm violet]

my next playthrough will be 100% hunter

[near root]

Exactly

[glacial kelp]

gyattfly too low

[crystal ledge]

no cuz then i have to do the entire parkour from pinstress's house

[tawny relic]

wait what-

[dull cape]

uh, you mean, like, 6 harpoons and a wall jump
you'd rather traverse sands of karak platforms

[jaunty robin]

Im pretty sure reaper is the best

[glacial kelp]

you can clawline now man it chill

[crystal ledge]

oh yeah i js figured out i can use clawline multiple times in the aair xD

[near root]

The issue with that being the result is I just hoard all my silk and never interact with a main mechanic of the game because doing so would make me unable to heal

[grim dirge]

Lost Lace just kicked me out of bounds, did anyone else had this happen to themselves?

[noble nacelle]

i disagree with stag not in f that boss was CHEEKS

[dry star]

I dont know if I could do the last boss without healing or tools

[smoky bridge]

No, the bosses are designed so you always have a window to either attack or heal.

The problem with HK's healing system is that if you're stubborn enough, and get quickslash, you can stack up enough soul to heal any time there is a fuckin window and facetank your way through anything.

[meager thistle]

i'm ngl after finishing act 3

this game feels perfectly balanced maybe except for like 1-2 areas

the double damage is honestly needed or else it would be too easy, though i can agree that you don't have much room to use silk skills unless you already know the entire boss fight, which in that case there would be no use for the skills at that point

[wild panther]

diagnosis: skill issue

[raw ocean]

It's insane to me that Act 3 is optional with the amount of content they added. My God

[dull cape]

no room in the game requires using 2 clawlines in a row without hitting anything, but yes you can do it

[fervent bough]

The teleporting is such a painnnnnnnn

[glacial kelp]

yk they nerfed a lot of act 3 bosses like khann karmelita and LL pre release

[warm violet]

i know git gud isnt helpful but like. thats all i got. Practice dodging entirely. poogo a hit when you can. Use that silk for skills

[nocturne beacon]

in silksong

[oblique quarry]

well then that's just a skill issue lol

[empty steeple]

personal bias from liking the arena and it being more of ||a "hunt" than a fight||

[meager thistle]

it felt like i was only really able to use silk skills in act 1 and like half of act 2, after that it really just feels like you have to save silk for healing

[noble nacelle]

oh shoot spoilers mb

[ornate torrent]

its geniunely super overpowered

[crystal ledge]

this room does if ur like me and dont wanna do the bigger runback but ur right not required

[oblique quarry]

also, ur saying it as if it's a general problem, but that's just your playstyle

[smoky bridge]

HK's hardest bosses literally do not let you heal, Silksong has like one boss that makes healing literally impossible and it sucks major ass.

[tropic apex]

yay (repost because i put the wrong image ._.)

[fervent bough]

||First sinner|| can eat a car battery

[meager thistle]

what exactly was nerfed? health?

[grim dirge]

which boss you talking abt

[noble nacelle]

wdym in absrad you can definitely heal

[dry star]

Ts how I was navigating sands

[dense hound]

Does anyone know how to spawn Garmon and Zara because I’ve beat the boss and turned in 4 cylinders

[jaunty robin]

The MAIN reason why this game has difficulty complaints is the when you reach an area during specific check points

I always thought last judge was the bane of my existence but that’s because she’s an act 1 skill check. Whole time you can skip her

But if I was mid act 2 fighting her I’d definitely beat her after like 3 or 5 deaths

[glacial kelp]

i believe the attacks were just more difficult khann would be easy even with more health

[weary sedge]

This is true I'm ngl I just spammed tools as opposed to skills

[pliant river]

Witch heal is very good actually since it also does damage to nearby enemies.

[radiant haven]

Is there something more to this room?

[dull cape]

i'm pretty sure you're just missing that you need to go through the spike tunnel to hit the rock, just like when you were going east

[glacial kelp]

later

[weary sedge]

Architect crest my goat

[meager thistle]

i always found a moment to heal in hk regardless of the boss, what ss boss r u talking about

[covert gyro]

WHY CANT THESE FATTYS DELIVER THE COURIER OMG

[fervent bough]

Hit the sign

[smoky bridge]

There's very few healing windows in NKG, and Absrad healing is really dependent on orb RNG

[radiant haven]

Damn... Like act 3 later?

[empty steeple]

unfortunate. loved those fights

[nocturne beacon]

OH IT'S ||A NEW CREST||

[noble nacelle]

how do you play like this 😭

[near root]

“Learn the fight so well you never get hit, and also never finish the boss well doing so, and then use skills while fighting to kill it really quickly even though you could have done it sooner because by the time you know the boss enough to fit skills around your healing you could have killed them already”

[glacial kelp]

yes

[jaunty robin]

Just a training room

[weary sedge]

U gotta hit the targets with the boomerang tool

[radiant haven]

Super valid

[nocturne beacon]

lmao okay?

[crystal ledge]

i found the spine tunnel i just dunno how ot get through it

[dull cape]

courier - a company or employee of a company that transports commercial packages and documents.

[ornate torrent]

for nkg the spike attack and the staggers are more than enough healing windows

[noble nacelle]

i mean you can heal in phase transitions

[radiant haven]

also valid. ty

[dry star]

Should I bother to get cursed child ending idk if I want to

[weary sedge]

Ye ofc

[glacial kelp]

imagine how many people would complain if LL or karmelita were harder than they already are it would be so peak

[near root]

If I tried to witch heal by Lost Lace she’d 100% just spin jump onto me wasting it

[meager thistle]

i beat last judge in 2 attempts so i didn't have much of an issue, but i could definitely see why people complained about the run back lol

it's a game changer if you had double jump tho

[weary sedge]

R u a completionist?

[smoky bridge]

Yeah but I mean besides staggers, Healing In the fight proper.

[noble nacelle]

didnt mean to spoil the fact that leg eater is in silksong

[soft lake]

TROBBIOOO

Marked as spoilers for a reason due to act 3 stuff

[warm violet]

look man i'm offering help because you struggle doing it the way i prefer.

[dry star]

No I'm a fun

[empty steeple]

so peak frrr. hope they bring back the pre-nerfed versions in whatever updates this game gets

[jaunty robin]

I didn’t, was this act 1 hornet or act 2?

[ornate torrent]

imo having to restart if you die to the final explosion is the only bad part abt it

[lethal wraith]

Do the snail shamans die after you claim the everbloom?

[weary sedge]

It's really up to you then I mean personally I didn't think cursed ending was that hard but everyone is a different skill level so 🤷‍♀️

[glacial kelp]

mfw going back after act 2 to beat judge for no reason

[meager thistle]

for me there just wasn't really a skill i felt that was worth using unless i was full health and was confident i wasnt going to be hit and also confident id actually land the skill
if i lost even a bit of health then it felt like i was forced to save silk for healing

[smoky bridge]

It is entirely a troll feature

[warm violet]

when we get a godhome dlc they might

[near root]

I mean, I’ll be honest here, I did basically do that for phase 1 and some of phase 2, but phase 3 is just her spamming her attacks constantly and turning the screen pitch black. It’s not really an enjoyable fight

[glacial kelp]

nah that was funny as hell as someone that died to it

[jaunty robin]

What’s your point? Genuinely askin

[ornate torrent]

it was hilarious but i was a bit upset lmao

[dry star]

Groal was a semi hard boss to me

[dull cape]

it's more about the tedium of starting a run from scratch. but for many people, the save file revert feature could help.

[warm violet]

unfortunately thats just how it goes. Each act has a point where you have this big difficulty leap

[glacial kelp]

it is funny in hindsight which is enough for me

[pliant river]

I thought it was funny until I got back to the arena and realized the boss doesn't die until that explosion finishes

[wild panther]

this is just cope fr. the entire point is to get so good at a boss that you completely whoop their ass with your combat prowess that you honed over time with patience and effort.

[meager thistle]

mb i'm an idiot i forgot you get clawline in act 2, i must've went through that blasted steps > grand gate and thought that was just the regular run back

but no you shouldn't have had double jump i don't think

[ornate torrent]

imo the only silk skills worth using in bossfights in a first playthrough are cross stitch and sharpdart

[smoky bridge]

I saw her do the twitch weirdly in the death animation and my brain neuron activated the "Flashbang asshole" pathways

[crystal ledge]

oh n yall said i got smth to do here and i found it but i dont see any secret passage or anything

[weary sedge]

Yeah I agree and also the only skill I really liked was thread storm (which doesn't really work on act 3 bosses bc they're too fast) and cross stitch (which I could never pull off bc skill issue) so I just saved my silk for healing and used tools whenever I needed some extra damage

[glacial kelp]

isn't this the only boss in the game with a death kill lmao

[noble nacelle]

i got wings in act 1 wdym???

[meager thistle]

yknow what's funny?

i technically beat last judge in one attempt somehow, but i died to the final explosion which is why it ended up being 2 💀

[dull cape]

many bosses have adds and depending on the fight, silkspear/thread storm are very straightforward

[glacial kelp]

yeah alright man

[jaunty robin]

You can’t get wings act 1

[weary sedge]

I think if healing didn't take so much silk it would be different but I'm not the best at the game either lol

[noble nacelle]

go left

[warm violet]

last judge killed me soooo many times beforei figured him out, and then he was fun. same for sister splinter and widow

[ornate torrent]

thread storm works on act 3 bosses but you have to memorize the usage windows

[empty steeple]

icl I completely forgot about silk skills for a majority of my playthrough parry and the arrows are fun

[dull cape]

you can but really shouldn't

[noble nacelle]

yes i can???\

[crystal ledge]

to the memory locket? i got that

[glacial kelp]

with very specific skip yes

[meager thistle]

i was always broke on shards so i ended up having to do lost lace nail only pretty much

[jaunty robin]

Myf yall I don’t know the skips

[weary sedge]

That's true I just always took too much damage and needed to heal lolol but that's on me

[smoky bridge]

You can sequence break Mt Fay someone found a way to do it without clawline

[glacial kelp]

odds are they're wrong if they're saying it tbf

[jaunty robin]

how the HELL

[grim dirge]

you do a stupid ass skip

[glacial kelp]

no i know lmao

[wild panther]

and I must commend your perseverance. some of us die a lot and blame the boss instead of their own lack of knowledge or skill

[meager thistle]

oh boy they're already finding skips

[smoky bridge]

Should have replied to the other guy bwehh

[warm violet]

getting shards is hell. esp with architect

[near root]

My point is that the general experience I’ve had with the game so far has given me a short fuse in regards to nonsense, especially with bosses, and LL is a nonsense boss

[dull cape]

ran out of shards. went back and farmed up some money really fast and bought enough shard bundles to restock shards, plus 20 shard bundles, plus 20 necklaces. it's not that big a deal if it's going to amount to a path forward

[jaunty robin]

That feels so out the way more than beating the game without double jump lmao

[weary sedge]

My strat was just doing the first 2 phases needle only then spamming poisoned cogflies and tacts in phase 3 😭

[noble nacelle]

im glad i did it these reactions are peak lmao

[glacial kelp]

that's because it is

[jaunty robin]

There’s no way that was on accident

[bold bear]

Team Cherry got called out

https://www.ign.com/articles/hollow-knight-silksong-reinforces-the-metroidvania-genres-accessibility-barriers

[warm violet]

i do both tbh i still consider radiance to be an evil and unfair boss

[weary sedge]

I really want to learn to use cross stitch it looks so fun but I keep messing up the timing 💔

[smoky bridge]

I just farm money while doing the courier job so I get more money per money

[dull cape]

there's 3 different equippables to help get shards. it's nbd

[meager thistle]

i was on the final boss, i really didn't feel like farming at that point, i also just felt like using my tools was a bit cheese especially with cogflies, obviously they're meant to be used but i wanted to feel as if i actually beat the boss myself if that makes sense

[glacial kelp]

funny that you can get this far and trip at the last boss

[noble nacelle]

it was really difficult to get wings but i did it and it was fun

[dull cape]

yes I was on the final boss too. going back up to restock is really not that bad if you care, and if you don't care, then you don't care

[ornate torrent]

once your past like early act 2 its never worth to get shards directly, buying them is always easier

[warm violet]

ign will post anything for attention. boo hoo, not every game can be accessible to everyone without seriously compromising its own gameplay

[glossy wind]

pin badge is so underrated

[warm violet]

3?? i only have the one that increases drops

[glacial kelp]

nail only arch is actually not that bad tbh

[bold bear]

I don’t think that’s true. I think they could do a better job

[ornate torrent]

imo team cherry keeps failing to make the charged attack worth it

[weary sedge]

What's everyone's favorite crest

[glacial kelp]

arch nart is actually pretty good

[ornate torrent]

hunter tbh

[noble nacelle]

wanderer

[dull cape]

snitch pick, magnetite brooch, shard pendant

[bright compass]

Witch + twin mirror

[ornate torrent]

i like all of them except reaper and architect

[glacial kelp]

snitch pick reduces drops

[weary sedge]

Dishonored pogo was my ARCH nemesis bro ur stronger than me 💔

[serene marsh]

can we agree that phantoms design is wack

[crystal ledge]

okay srsly dude what do i do here sm1 told me that im meant to go somewhere up and left of here but i cant find anything was it just the memory locket?

[smoky bridge]

Archi Needle art used to be OP, currently it's still just amazing.

[weary sedge]

Two of my favorite unironically lol

[noble nacelle]

the witch one but before you fix it

[warm violet]

sure, they could keep nerfing things and making parkour easier, but the game is meant to be hard

[weary sedge]

With longclaw it's goated

[dull cape]

I can use snitch pick on things I'm not going to kill, so not really.

[ornate torrent]

they have the worst pogos imo

[meager thistle]

now that i'm done with the boss though

doing lost lace with tools would've been way too easy

[glacial kelp]

i thought you were talking about a grinding setup mb

[warm violet]

i thought magnetite was for rosaries only?

[ornate torrent]

i understand liking them tho, they do have their strong suits

[meager thistle]

i used hunter

[weary sedge]

😭 WHY

[smoky bridge]

You can charge the architect pogooo

[dull cape]

yes, it's fine. not every grind involves killing every enemy on a route

[oblique quarry]

bros a masochist

[bold bear]

Or they could make an easy mode or make a menu to adjust the difficulty so everyone can enjoy the game at the pace they want. Smooth brains think otherwise

[meager thistle]

wanderer but i don't even have it and yet im done with the game 💀

but aside from wanderer, i like hunter the most

[serene marsh]

only part of silksong that’s too hard is the courier rasher

[dull cape]

50 rosaries is 80 shards.

[ornate torrent]

this is cool but the delay it has makes it obnoxious to use

[weary sedge]

I understand architect but what don't you like about reaper pogo? It is too slow?

[warm violet]

i forgot that tbh

[oblique quarry]

wanderer's crest or architect's crest

[pine frost]

Wanderer and Reaper

[weary sedge]

This is so real

[glacial kelp]

i've beaten LL with every crest nail only and wanderer was probably the easiest for it

[serene marsh]

i don’t get why one needs to use 2 separate speed boosting items to make it doable

[noble nacelle]

are these scores good or nah?

[oblique quarry]

reaper pogo moves you forward slightly no matter what

[ornate torrent]

yeah, mostly a skill issue, but i'd rather not learn it imo.

[dull cape]

people are crazy if they don't think wanderer is the easiest crest

[glacial kelp]

anyways shaman

[jaunty robin]

The problem with critics is that they’re just doing it for their equivalent of clip farming. Aside from the disability gap anytime a trilogy sequence of games have the sequels or prequels more easier than the initial titles it never goes well.

Honestly team cherry is the perfect representation good of patch notes on release because it got mixed reviews about so much that people are asking for a difficulty slider

Even more so, think about HK. Pantheon, Grimm troupe, and dreams and Voidheart are all very difficult gameplay additions

People just being haters fr

[smoky bridge]

I mean there should be options to reduce flashing, and colour blindness stuff really should be in any game, but I don't think their suggested one ("let me pin a screenshot to the map" makes any sense in any context. You already have pins what do you want lmao)

[oblique quarry]

you always need to pogo from a distance, or ull die even if you pogo the spikes

[weary sedge]

Ahh I didn't notice it

[patent badge]

i cant dodge the move that grandmother silk does in phase 2 and 3 where she spins the silk across the screen, i always seem to get caught. any tips?

[pine frost]

What crest do you use for Juggle I'm struggling

[ornate torrent]

it is, honestly using it feels a bit like cheese

[noble nacelle]

wanderer

[warm violet]

there are games that do that, i don't think silksong literally could. they'd have to rebalance everything, i cant think of a way to make parkour easier without making it trivial

[oblique quarry]

i used it for most of my playthrough until clover dancers

[weary sedge]

That's valid that's me with the diagonal pogo

[dull cape]

this was never an issue for me? the arc is humongous

[glacial kelp]

it's the most obvious attack man it literally draws the arcs

[unborn island]

Really wish the "dont take damage while healing" tool actually stopped you taking damage instead of just gave a vague suggestion of safety

[meager thistle]

probably cause her fight is focused on punishing and wanderer does that best so

[patent badge]

very helpful

[oblique quarry]

yea but in areas such as border caves, it becomes annoying to have accurate pogos

[noble nacelle]

i mean it does

[pine frost]

Darn that's what I'm using. I'll just fix the skill issue then

[smoky bridge]

It does prevent damage?

[serene marsh]

wdym? that’s what the bell does

[glacial kelp]

idk use your float cloak more and try to find spots where you can stand still

[glossy wind]

maybe because wanderer has the most consistent nail dps

[meager thistle]

i didn't have much memorable boss fights in ss surprisingly but lost lace was by far my favorite

[unborn island]

I am getting destroyed with it still

[warm violet]

oh i agree with those types of options! my issue is with gameplay ones. i actually love when games let you adjust contrast because my vision is rough

[oblique quarry]

it does? if u get hit during heal you deal damage in an area and dont take damage

[dull cape]

it's accurate, it's just accurate to something different. most of the crests are not the HK movement, just wanderer.

[pine frost]

I mean it stops you from taking a hit. If you time it you can even get hit and heal at the same time. What more do you want...?

[noble nacelle]

ragebait or nah? bro is lying

[meager thistle]

it still interrupts you healing, you just don't take damage lol

[weary sedge]

Karmelita? I loved her 😭

[crystal ether]

… how am I just finding out you can get help from Shakra in the high halls gauntlet fight…

[jaunty robin]

Ant queen and lost lace are my two favorite

[glossy wind]

shaman makes it laughably easy

[glacial kelp]

i agree but you'd think the range diff on the others would be helpful

[weary sedge]

This guy gets it

[bold bear]

They couldn’t literally make sliders that change how much damage the world does starting at no damage to whatever. Then you wouldn’t have to do a hard parkour back to a challenging spot. This just shows how little people think about differently abled gamers

[noble nacelle]

shaman is cringe i prefer the thinnest upslash for my juggle attempts

[wet yoke]

Could be funny if when I go back to Hollow Knight after doing some more with Silksong, White Palace and NKG end up being child's play

[meager thistle]

eh, she was alright but didn't do much for me, kinda one of those bosses i just wanted to get over with

[crystal ledge]

dude i swear theres some secret up here unless im js missing something how tf do i get up

[serene marsh]

silksong has gotten way easier after these patches too

[glacial kelp]

yes beast pogo only for juggle when

[jaunty robin]

They are the definition of running hands and don’t run away lmao

[oblique quarry]

by accuracy, i mean not being able to pogo from anywhere. if you were a bit too close to the fish, you would almost certainly be taking damage no matter what

[crystal ether]

Like was I the only one who didn’t know this or

[noble nacelle]

there is correct

[dull cape]

reaper + longclaw, never ever jump, never sprint (only dash), never ever push up, only sideways slash. always hit the first round of fleas toward the center, and then hit them all in the same direction after that.

[dry star]

I think it would be cool if shakra refused to duel if you were cursed like the couriers refusing to let you do their thing

[weary sedge]

Huh that's surprising

[oblique quarry]

a skill u get later

[crystal ledge]

and how do i get there

[glacial kelp]

remember it for later :3

[noble nacelle]

doesnt pogoing knock them down?

[meager thistle]

act 3 ability id assume

[crystal ledge]

k ill mark it

[noble nacelle]

act 3 shenanigans

[heady atlas]

so im back to the server after leaving it like a week prior to ss's release, hows the game yall?

[weary sedge]

Parrying Karmelita's discs to avoid damage is 10/10 feeling

[glacial kelp]

i've never tried... idk maybe beast pogo can hit from the side

[warm violet]

... so take out one of the major parts of the game? TC is pretty good about making it easy to escape difficult sections on the way back

[noble nacelle]

peak apart from bilewater and ducts

[jaunty robin]

I really hope they add a difficulty slider. Initial release is my favorite state of the game

[meager thistle]

i guess widow was cool, i didn't like karmelita's fight but i like their design

[noble nacelle]

i think i tried with wanderer and it just hit them down

[crystal ledge]

alright then ig after this next thing i cant put bilewater off anymore

[chilly pewter]

does anyone have any help for groat?

[glossy wind]

pin badge > weavelight > egg of flealia for shaman crest

[glacial kelp]

no they're right i want double damage carvers and gears back

[weary sedge]

I was practically done by the time they patched it so I haven't tried any of the early game bosses post patch

[meager thistle]

honestly idk what people have against bilewater it really wasn't that bad for me, and i didn't even have the tool that protects you temporarily from the maggots either

[glacial kelp]

why would you try this...

[dull cape]

try to use burst dmg on the small guys.

[weary sedge]

Phantom?

[heady atlas]

im guessing everyone is using wanderer's crest?

[jaunty robin]

Act 1 blasted steps will always be the worst area for me. Idc about sinners road honestly

[noble nacelle]

i wanted to know if i could pogo them fleas

[weary sedge]

What about her 😭

[warm violet]

please stay away from my family

[smoky bridge]

Team Cherry, give us a hazard damage slider so I can make instakill sand carvers

[oblique quarry]

i feel like adding difficulty sliders would worsen the already terrible elitism in this community

[pine frost]

Best bosses would be Widow and Seth imo

[smoky bridge]

Not because I actually want them, I just wanna see how it would feel

[glacial kelp]

they should go away after you bomb them icl

[oblique quarry]

like someone who beats the game on normal would just get crapped on by showerless unemployed people because they didn't beat the game on radiant difficulty

[smoky bridge]

Truee
But I guess their numbers are inexhaustible

[dull cape]

if you mean the boss runback, it can be done only running into 1 enemy (ignorable) the whole way, some people just don't bother trying to improve the route

[meager thistle]

didn't fight them, where are they and can i still fight them in act 3?

[pliant river]

Never understood people with this opinion. If the game is too hard dont play it.

[sweet ledge]

real

[noble nacelle]

i need silksong master mode NOW

[short hawk]

HA HA no. I never got into Wanderer cuz it felt too much like the HK moveset in a game that's not HK if that makes sense?

[warm violet]

"oh, you play on the standard setting? no no, thats fine i guess, i just think the game is more meaningful when every trap does 7 masks"

[weary sedge]

Aww u should

[glacial kelp]

no i agree but this only really matters if you interact with it
like you can enjoy a game without touching the community at all

[warm violet]

play dead cells which has fantastic accesibility settings

[meager thistle]

where are they

[weary sedge]

Uhm I'm not sure but they're in the exhaust organ u gonna go from sinner's road to bilewater

[oblique quarry]

and i know this from experience, since i posted my radbsrad comp here, and someone said "not that impressive but ok"

[smoky bridge]

People already piss themselves with "righteous anger" if you tool spam a boss.

[short hawk]

there's already steel soul mode (which despite being easily cheesed) which does have a similar effect

[jaunty robin]

The patch didn’t really do much but call out the community. Exploration area dmg to the player was nerfed, two bosses no one should’ve really been concerned about got nerfed

And thankfully the cheesy as architect mains had got heavy nerfed. Apparently it’s still the best crest in the game or top 2 at least. Architect was so crazy that tools globally got nerfed in amount and dmg

[weary sedge]

If theyre still there then exhaust organ

[wild panther]

its a single player game

[dusky sundial]

It's those blasted steps, damnit

[weary sedge]

Ahh I see

[noble nacelle]

what about act 2 blasted steps?

[glacial kelp]

ofc it's ign lmao
i mean silksong is culturally relevant rn so it makes more sense

[crystal ledge]

oh god ive seen these guys before

[finite lava]

does anyone know if there are enemies unobtainable on act 3?

[oblique quarry]

ok and? it would still worsen elitism because of that, and if there was a community around a game you love, wouldn't you want to join?

[dull cape]

just because you found the bosses easy doesn't mean they needed no change. early game balance is very difficult and very very important

[noble nacelle]

there shouldnt be

[pine frost]

The nerfs were pretty needed, the devs want people to enjoy their game and they had a total of like 5 play testers so they didn't realize what things were over tuned

[rapid edge]

Just farm beads in Greymoor

[smoky bridge]

The game keeps all creatures sprinkled around

[jaunty robin]

NAH just the area, the double dmg when falling into the insects gave me like a deepnest vibe

If deepnest was hell then I must be at the under hell with blasted steps on initial release

[violet night]

Which bosses got nerfed?

[glacial kelp]

i think the nerfs were fair but as a sadist it's sad

[smoky bridge]

Moorwing and Sister Splinter

[finite lava]

okay thanks cuz hollow knight ptsd kicked in

[jaunty robin]

The tree lady in sherwood boss and fly boss in greymoor act 1

[violet night]

Who had issues with sister splinter?

[short hawk]

pretty sure you can still true 100% the game in act 3, Team Cherry was really good about keeping everything accessible

[glacial kelp]

the summons ig

[pine frost]

(most of the environmental two mask damage being patched after I got through most of the game was disheartening)

[vast raven]

I sort of understand the nerfs, sister splinter is easily manageable if you have the spinning thread move

[vast raven]

Cogwork Core.exe

[smoky bridge]

Yeah but I didn't even know it was accessible at that time :v

[dull cape]

yes there are, but nothing that is missable is required for any unlockable/achievement.

[crystal ledge]

beat lugoli first try istg the only remotely hard part was the bilewater bomb things

[tropic apex]

i defeated found lace on my second try

[short hawk]

you now have the rare privilege of saying you "did it pre-nerf"

[wild panther]

ya sure, but you are alienating a lot of people by making a game one fixed (hard) difficulty as well

[smoky bridge]

The problem with trying to balance metroidvania bosses is that people will find them with vastly different equipment levels.

[pine frost]

What did they change for sister splinter? She was like a second try boss for me, I didn't realize people found that hard

[warm violet]

i hated when they first released the game and people were complaining about them missing glitches. like, 5 playtesters wont be able to try everything as fast as 500k players

[jaunty robin]

Very easy and a lot of skips. HOWEVER doing the courier runs and blasted steps being the optimal route I feel like team cherry gets off on our suffering

[pliant river]

Moorwing contact damage on stagger and cogs in cogwork core had damage reduced

[finite lava]

wait wat

[smoky bridge]

Wisp Thicket is faster it feels like?

[vast raven]

Luckily I got it before, I guess the nerfs are somewhat valid, I thought Moorwing was challenging, but not too difficult especially when you have Garmund the goat

[noble nacelle]

blasted steps isnt that bad just like jump over the judges

[dull cape]

there is no hunter journal entry that is missable and also required.

[wild panther]

i mean by that point in the game u would be very adept at platforming through that area quickly hitless no?

[short hawk]

YES go my fellow careless beast crest users (this is not criticism, I too am guilty of facetanking)

[smoky bridge]

Moorwing kicked my ass for two days (I only really play an hour each day) until I got annoyed and went and accidentally skipped it, lmao

[crisp nimbus]

You know what I hate about Team Cherry?

[jaunty robin]

I didn’t find them easy. I enjoyed the difficulty. I feel like the exploration nerf was needed. I just wished they kept the boss difficulty because the game’s difficulty impression was speaking volumes at hunters march parkour skill check and hunters

[vast raven]

Also I think 1 mask of damage is fine and all, but the saw should still do 2 masks, that’s my take on it

[fringe vigil]

can I go up there? (putrified ducks)

[vast raven]

Act3

[short hawk]

yes but you need an act 3 ability

[dull cape]

but SHOULD you go up there? hmmm

[vast raven]

Absolutely

You get a funny little quest

[jaunty robin]

Yea but it’s just ironic that’s it’s the most optimal route

[vast raven]

No big spoilers though :>

[dull cape]

wasn't necessary to say that

[short hawk]

AND ||said quest gives you a rare achievement... :)||

[noble nacelle]

get the wings upgrade and triple jump

[dull cape]

yes very good, you guys have played the game

[weary hatch]

Yo doing literally anything besides main quests during act 3 is so miserable 😭 im losing my shit in this deep docks gauntlet that guards a flea

[short hawk]

are we so fr

[noble nacelle]

no im joking

[short hawk]

go my Volt Filament Shaman Crest

[crisp nimbus]

Tc is too professional!

[vast raven]

The triple jump is really hard to get ffs

[short hawk]

hi joking I'm Trinity (ik, was sarcasm)

[vast raven]

Gl with that

[maiden rock]

Hi I found a way to get out of bounds during the Lace 2 fight do you guys think this is useful/where should I put the vid

[jaunty robin]

Man I don’t know how anyone discover wisp thicker lmao it wasn’t until act three I found it

[edgy creek]

this secret sands of karak boss sucks ass

[bitter blade]

can be done act 2 I think

[noble nacelle]

put it here i wanna see

[warm violet]

is it like,, everything becomes like infected crossroads?

[shell imp]

both of them

[weary hatch]

It can, i just happened to not do it beforehand I was in a rush to get to act 3 🥲 wish i did

[jaunty robin]

Yea, but delivering the liquid for the masks blasted steps is the best route for me at the time

[noble nacelle]

as in its not fun, yeah its too easy

[edgy creek]

not voltwyrm

[knotty jay]

Is it normal that it took me 1 try to kill lace but like 10 tries to kill that small miniboss with the club in deep docks

[noble nacelle]

yes

[maiden rock]

I was fully able to move/walk around and was also able to get back in the fight area

[dull cape]

don't expose the ||secret ending|| please

[wild panther]

oh ya, I didnt even do that

[shell imp]

voltwyrm is like the nothing boss to end all nothing bosses

[candid arch]

how do I know if im in act 2???

[stable goblet]

3h 50m about to fight lace 2🙏

[vast raven]

It took me over an hour to beat Groal

[edgy creek]

huge ass cutscene that says it

[warm violet]

that guy is worse

[dull cape]

😆

[maiden rock]

Alright my b I deleted it

[candid arch]

Just beat ||phantom || does that mean Im in act 2

[noble nacelle]

gl

[pliant river]

When you see the screen that says act 2

[warm violet]

it announces it

[maiden rock]

Like is that spoilers for the fight

[vast raven]

No

[edgy creek]

no but if you enter an area afterwards yes

[glacial kelp]

erm give it a minute

[jaunty robin]

You entered the citadel and a cutscene plays

[nocturne beacon]

this wasn't actually that bad??? idk what yall were talking about with him i beat him 2nd try and totally wasnt down to 1 mask and very scared

[candid arch]

yes

[noble nacelle]

no you need to get the text on screen that says act 2

[stable goblet]

Ty I need this achievement

[dull cape]

and phase 3?

[short hawk]

the Citadel has pathways that are blocked off but everywhere else is fine, ||the combat|| is the only thing that changes consistently cuz of act 3 shenanigans

[jaunty robin]

You’re in act 2

[candid arch]

but it never said act 2

[vast raven]

Depends on the crest and the tools

[fringe cape]

I'm never beating that stupid thing..

[nocturne beacon]

he turned into a bench 🔥

[candid arch]

k

[hollow maple]

idk if this is an odd request but would anyone be willing to compile a list of Silksong bosses (including any re-fights) in a decent order of progression since not only do I not want to miss something and come back overpowered, but I also heard some bosses are inaccessible past once you enter Act 3

[peak vapor]

I just realized that alot of fanart and fan comics/fanfics with ghost and/or the hollow knight meeting characters from Silksong is that i have yet to see one where they interact with Grimmchild…

[glacial kelp]

i see those maggots dont act like you werent stressed

[jaunty robin]

Lmao your health bar is funny backing this statement

[vast raven]

I used the reaper crest and the damage buff tools that’s it

[dull cape]

sitting in that bench really should start a fake phase 3

[warm violet]

i think ill just quit after act 2 actually i still have ptsd from those exploding guys in crossroads

[proud lance]

do you guys think i should speedrun with steel soul mode (im trying to get all the achievements)

[vital saffron]

every boss now completed with each crest:
S. wanderer
A. hunter
B.
C.
D. reaper

[glacial kelp]

he should also blow up after he dies for good measure

[dull cape]

it's not like that. but if you ask questions in here you're bound to get spoilers, better to just play game

[radiant tide]

Is this already known? When using the ||drill|| on the ant enemies it keeps them in this position:

[jaunty robin]

Has to be Satan’s generals

[warm violet]

appreciated

[raven tinsel]

How tf am I supposed to hit flying enemies if they dodge literally everytime I make a move?!

[fleet glen]

About to fight Lost Lace

Am I cooked

[jaunty robin]

They’re suppose to bait you into their attack. Bait them back

[glacial kelp]

this gives high halls or coral tower icl

[edgy creek]

this shit was so ass </3

[warm violet]

did you not get the gun yet

[noble nacelle]

do beast

[vital saffron]

USE CLAWLINE

[raven tinsel]

It’s actually ruining the game for me. Why are there so many? Their projectiles last way too long, and they dodge every single hit.

[weary hatch]

not cooked if you have enough confidence

[floral kindle]

Clawline, tools, silkspear

[vital saffron]

thats next, after class today

[jaunty robin]

If you think you’re cooked, you’re really underestimating her.

Best advice, don’t run

[vast raven]

That one wasn’t too bad, the runback is ass though I’ll give you that

[short hawk]

this is a good idea, lemme pull up the tierlist for convenience's sake

[crisp nimbus]

Tc is too professional!

[bitter blade]

For a decent amount of them getting below/above them messes with their dodging

[fleet glen]

I have Max Nail

Max Masks

Wanderers Crest and a dream

[umbral ether]

think im ready to kill groal now

[noble nacelle]

nah not yet

[smoky bridge]

... That would be so funny TBH.

Like. Put the boss music back on, and make the water rumble.

[glossy wind]

why does the shaman crest literally have the worst dash attack in the game

[raven tinsel]

Coral Tower :/.

Kakri, Yago, and those stupid fat blob Karak Gors.

[vast raven]

Nah, you need more

[dull cape]

me when HK players complain about the flying enemies kiting the player in Silksong

[vital saffron]

to find ||watcher on the edge|| find a corpse in sands of karak and use super jump

[jaunty robin]

Best crest imo

[weary hatch]

damn allat? i believe in you bro

[fleet glen]

Getting Max Needle and 10 Masks gonna be the best decision of my life

[vital saffron]

clawline + wanderer lets you instantly kill every flying enemy in theg ame

[edgy creek]

skong is very punishing on its bosses imo; it can be hard to learn how to do them before dying. which si why that runback is Ass.

[smoky bridge]

And then nothing.

Just to give you a heart attack, as a last little middle finger.

[floral ocean]

I've heard a lot of people say the witch crest is one of the best crests in the game but why does it feel so terrible to use

I can't guarantee my opponent stands in place for a heal

I can't even guarantee my opponent doesn't die before I get a full heal

Most of the time I only heal 2 masks

Am I missing something

[vast raven]

Try using clawline when it’s a fly in putrid ducts directly above and diagonal

[raven tinsel]

Do you mean the harpoon? Or do you mean the silkshot?

[shell imp]

actual hater of peak

[dull cape]

it's not an instant win button lol

[warm violet]

i was joking lol

[inner zephyr]

I wish people understood clawline more on first playthroughs watching the hk streamers completely dismiss it sometimes was like aaaa

[wild rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xQ-JZQYrHI

perhaps i was too harsh on you, beastie

[fleet glen]

You already know I got that Longclaw and Injector band on me too

[dull cape]

exaaaaactly lol
the game actually tries hard to teach players to use clawline, with multiple rooms basically devoted to teaching it, but it's tough to change habits

[umbral ether]

the only other thing i can get is the 2nd silk heart

[vast raven]

Yeah, the runback was the worst part, only took me a few tries though 2-3, you just wanna dodge

[inner zephyr]

We are Press LT enjoyers

[jaunty robin]

Inv frames on down and rush attack

3 blue tools (bind explosion build)

Really good range so you don’t need long claw

[covert gyro]

tf is this

[vital saffron]

i literally used reaper against every boss in a row with no benches and died to bell eater cuz its TRASH

[smoky bridge]

TBH fliers are the main reason threefold pins and Pimpillo tend to enjoy a near permanent spot in my top red tool slot.

[vast raven]

You need to finish act 3 then come back to groal /j

[coarse leaf]

Oh wrong discord

[raven tinsel]

I am finding I still take damage with claw line. Plus when there are multiple enemies, shit hits the fan.

I know, I know, skill issue1!!1

[vital saffron]

certified reaper hater

[edgy creek]

carefree melody

[inner zephyr]

Wait sprint slash has iframes too?

[umbral ether]

no i think i have to kill groal to reach act 3

[fleet glen]

I think Reaper is really good for being Passive

[raven tinsel]

I never used to use it very much, because I didn’t know it dealt damage to enemies without being hit.

[inner zephyr]

Holy whoa that is powerful

[shell imp]

i think you died because youre TRASH

[vast raven]

You might be right

[vital saffron]

but i just did wanderer and did them all way faster!

[jaunty robin]

Yea, when she hornet uses her tendrils and cuts up her opponent she has like a small window of inv frames

[smoky bridge]

Try to prioritize the enemies that hit you the most, and remember you can air-stall with float.

Another tip, you can taunt flying enemies to make them get closer.

[glossy wind]

GARMOND DIES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[shell imp]

just cant use it correctly smh

[dull cape]

like all abilities, there's plenty to be learned about when NOT to use it too haha
safe times & not-safe times

[inner zephyr]

I really gotta do more testing with each crest, I'm still learning new things

[shell imp]

i used reaper whole game and was swimming in winning

[smoky bridge]

Also also, Silk Storm is amazing at dispatching flying enemies

[finite lava]

how do I get to duel with garamond and zaza? I dont see them at the place where you do

[inner zephyr]

Reaper is my go to for rosary farming specifically, and occasionally arenas

[full halo]

IS THERE NO FUCKING BENCH NEAR GROAL? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

[oblique quarry]

pale nails is better just cuz of auto aim ngl

[tranquil wigeon]

You have to pull a schrodinger to save him

[warm violet]

silk storm trivializes sister splinter

[vital saffron]

im admire you for doing a challenge run the whole game

[jaunty robin]

Honest lumble and shakra mentor had me pissed off man. I carried those dice for the rest of the game in respect to my gambling buddy

[glossy wind]

WHAT HOW DO YOU SAVE HIM

[oblique quarry]

there is, take a dip in the worm bath

[inner zephyr]

A cruel mistress, this frog is

[shell imp]

well i was but reaper helped me

[smoky bridge]

Yeah however I am used to having either silk storm or cross stitch

[edgy creek]

i dont think you can get it after getting all 3 melodies

[warm violet]

wrong person but i assume they mean he only survives if you never enter the room

[finite lava]

oh rip

[full halo]

Fuck this game hiding benches where the hell isbthat

[umbral ether]

1/3 fleas i still need to get

[oblique quarry]

fair, i just use cross stitch

[glossy wind]

oh i understand it now

[inner zephyr]

I run thread storm sharpdart pale nails on my shaman crest

[nocturne beacon]

||ACT 3 TIME BABY|| (A2)

[wild panther]

everyone says this about every crest Ive noticed, its just personal preference. The truth everyone knows but nobody will say is every crest is the best for someone, the entire point of multiple crests is to give players variety of playstyle

[shell imp]

how are you gunna use shaman and not have cross smh

[edgy creek]

does that one target room in far fields have anys ecret

[vale comet]

SHAW 🔥

[full halo]

Yeah let’s fucking scam the player from a bench and make EDGE ME so hard with the BENCH SIGNS ONLY FOR THE FLOOR TO BREAK BC TC LOVES EDGING YOU TJEM SAYING FUCK YOU NO BENCH FOR U

[inner zephyr]

Wanderer my beloved

[edgy creek]

how are you not gonna use cross its like the most awesome one

[umbral ether]

is this tool set up good for groal

[smoky bridge]

Only in act 3

[fleet glen]

Ayo Second Phase lost lace first try???

[edgy creek]

i am there 👀

[jaunty robin]

There’s actually a lot of synergy with some crests

Like part of the reason architect is so good is because it’s the ONLY (I’m not joking) the only crest that can have self healing masks from overdosing on plasma

The crit chance on wanderer is raised from 2% to 2.1% if you carry the dice (it’s kinda a necessity though imo)

[inner zephyr]

One day, you'll look back on this and laugh

[smoky bridge]

Think about what tool you could use to do a trick shot with in the target room

[oblique quarry]

sure, if ur gonna fight him normally

[full halo]

Do I have to replay the small fry gauntlet every time I fight groal

[raven tinsel]

How do I “taunt” them?

[potent latch]

Yall we allowed to say 'the f word" here

[oblique quarry]

y e s

[wild panther]

just test it why are you asking here

[quartz thunder]

what would you guys say your best builds are?

[inner zephyr]

That's actually not true, you can get the regen on any crest later

[oblique quarry]

check ur controls, its the buttom with challenge label

[raven tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-the-frog-sad-crying-gif-16026853

[terse cloak]

EEPY/?????

[smoky bridge]

There is a dedicated taunt button R3 on controller. It consumes one silk

[potent latch]

Eh ima assume yes

[jaunty robin]

Reaper currently has a infinite silk build and witches crest is known for having a kamikaze build where you blow yourself up

[quartz thunder]

what would you guys say your best builds are?

[inner zephyr]

I do want to explode very hard

[smoky bridge]

It buffs your damage for like. One hit, and makes enemies stop running away.

[sudden roost]

Just got TE yesterday and I have to say:

[jaunty robin]

How?

[noble nacelle]

bind "challenge" in the controls

[raven tinsel]

Switches don’t have this huh

[smoky bridge]

Wuhh

[nocturne beacon]

erm what the hell

[inner zephyr]

When the wormways are taken over by lifeblood, there are 3 lifeblood hearts that each give you 2 masks. Then you just inject 3 and you got it

[haughty owl]

Reaper is good just because of its range, it’s regeneration is the cherry on top

[lime radish]

i just decided to start grinding steel soul as i figured i could get a decent amount of progress after 100%'ing the game, i then proceeded to die to lace 1

[dull cape]

I did this too but fast travel killed it

[smoky bridge]

Just click random shit until she makes a weird noise!

[lime radish]

how cooked am i

[nocturne beacon]

AND IT'S LACE WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!!!!!

[ocean bridge]

simple beast crest + flintslate + multibinder

[jaunty robin]

Smart. Didn’t think of that, this game is so intuitive

[smoky bridge]

It might be bound to something else.

[nocturne beacon]

uh oh

[inner zephyr]

Why does fast travel kill it?

[lapis minnow]

I only used wanderer the whole game bc it’s basically the original HK moveset

[edgy creek]

so does bro just take the curveclaw or something

[inner zephyr]

The amount of detail in this game baffles me every day, I love it so much

[haughty owl]

I’m probably gonna be waiting a while for steel soul. Silksong is much more punishing to eslrybgame I feel like I’ll lose most of the time 5-10 hours in

[quartz thunder]

😭😭😭

[noble nacelle]

its beautiful (beast btw)

[jaunty robin]

But wait isn’t that out the way because once you bench it’s gone

[crystal ledge]

ohhhh dude hornet got her blade from the hive? that makes so much sense

[full halo]

No I won’t. Scamming a player of the bench then hiding the real bench under a breakable wall which you need to be soaked in the maggots that the game is telling you to avoid is TRASH GAME DESIGN

[smoky bridge]

Get highway robbed :V
But no, bench and come back.

[inner zephyr]

Scuttle? Is that actually worthwhile?

[edgy creek]

bench makes sense yea

[jaunty robin]

So technically architect is the only one that can do it

[nocturne beacon]

wait was i lied to i thought there was an act 3 im just getting credits

[whole crest]

lesgooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[warm violet]

architect with buzzsaw, cogflies, and air spikes, then poison. compass, multibinder, rosary collector

[dull cape]

haha. you're not really meant to find the hidden bench. it's for knowers and people who simply can't do it otherwise.
also, you don't need to be soaked.

[inner zephyr]

Yeah benching kills it so architect is still better at it, but if you're stubborn you could

[wild panther]

personally like using flint and brew for tools but barbed is a must

[jaunty robin]

They did this in the first game this isn’t nothing new you’re just naive

[quartz thunder]

how do u possibly play w this

[covert gyro]

beat this mffff again

[warm violet]

is that fr*nch

[nocturne beacon]

🔥

[noble nacelle]

i dont i just made the worst build i could think of ngl

[whole crest]

yesir

[stable goblet]

I BEAT SILKSONG IN 4 HOURS

[inner zephyr]

You have a fair point lol

[nocturne beacon]

that freaking bird that i hate

[noble nacelle]

bien sur

[smoky bridge]

The scuttle brace is diabolical lmao

[warm violet]

making me see that is offensive

[whole crest]

it was hide

[full halo]

How are you not supposed to find the bench? Did u see the run back lmao

[quartz thunder]

lowk wouldnt have fun w this tho

[warm light]

TROOObbiani

[dull cape]

what's wrong with scuttlebrace? that isn't just "i never learned how to get value from it 🙁 "

[whole crest]

u clicked

[inner zephyr]

Does scuttle actually have genuine useful qualities at all

[nocturne beacon]

ok so there's no act 3 i was lied to 😭

[noble nacelle]

spider

[dull cape]

yes, did the runback

[smoky bridge]

It's mostly that it had very little actual use.

[inner zephyr]

Fair enough

[warm violet]

wdym do you not enjoy crying while you try and collect enough shards for one more try??

[noble nacelle]

bro needs to complete all the quests

[pure oar]

Try and access your save file

[nocturne beacon]

oh.

[lime radish]

i used something like this for the second half of my playthrough

[smoky bridge]

The only thing I use it for TBH is when I'm going into areas with big, safe wall climbs.

[inner zephyr]

oh. :))

[atomic mortar]

GUYS I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT GOOD!!! I CAN PARRY SO WELL

[full halo]

So it’s just bad design, thanks

[pure oar]

Welcome to act 3

[smoky bridge]

It like. Very slightly reduced your hitbox and retreats at normal sprint speed.

[dull cape]

hitbox.
you can integrate it if you want to. people don't want to

[nocturne beacon]

||grandmother silk took the save file in the divorce 😭||

[jaunty robin]

Good luck, it’s like walking through run down neighborhood with a backpack full of money lmao

[inner zephyr]

||time to go to court :3||

[smoky bridge]

Ok that is way more of a reduction than I thought.

[nocturne beacon]

brooo im getting sued 😭

[foggy tapir]

[ * I CANT DO ANYTHING! ]

[pure oar]

Fight for custody then

[tropic apex]

actually, i´m a reaper user (i´m using the beast crest just for a goofy challenge)

[dull cape]

you win, because you can't do it and i can do it, that makes it bad design, it's only good design if you find it easy

[noble nacelle]

this is fr im not joking this time

[strong locust]

by far the most evil trap in the game:

[smoky bridge]

Well I do use it (what else an I gonna put there? Friggin compass? but it doesn't work out as often.)

[inner zephyr]

Waitwait that makes you actually harder to hit? That's sick!

[jaunty robin]

That’s my build except I use steady body

[opal ice]

ok guys, with some help, i managed to get information, IN WHOLE map, there is 886 total of interests = items/interesting places/fleas/tools/bences/npc/rosaries and etc

[smoky bridge]

You can also sprint up walls with it

[short hawk]

check it

[raven tinsel]

The taunt button on the Nintendo Switch Lite is the right stick!!

[pure oar]

Did you know electric filament pale nails actually does 1 less damage than an electric silk spear?

[whole crest]

its now time for steel soul

[smoky bridge]

Girl, that is R3

[inner zephyr]

Oh that's cool, I might nab it then

[tropic apex]

i got the thing

[ebon yarrow]

Man, just beat ||Carmelita||, peak fight and prob my favorite

[dull cape]

Challenge *

[whole crest]

did someone finished steel soul here ?

[hollow maple]

thanks!

[foggy tapir]

idk
but i saw a guy use a strat where he just kept being in the maggot water, it took him that attempt (this vid was what 5 minutes long?)

[bold breach]

Is silk spear worth using once you get other silk skills? It feels really lackluster.

[noble nacelle]

i js dont wanna aim icl

[quartz thunder]

silkspeed anklets are the best thing to ever exist

[oblique quarry]

random bull**** GO!!!

[smoky bridge]

It has really good reach?

[dull cape]

yes it's quite nice for enemies lined up, especially when adds spawn

[short hawk]

there's one error, I needed to put raging conchfly in optional for act 2/mandatory for act 3, other than that it should be accurate

[smoky bridge]

And decent damage

[sinful swift]

https://tenor.com/view/brazil-soccer-world-cup-gif-26438165

[foggy tapir]

the skarrgard IS a boss dude idk what de fuck your talkin about

[full halo]

This game would be good without the aspects that are simply meant to rage bait the player

[hollow maple]

alright!

[quartz thunder]

have u got the parry yet

[smoky bridge]

I actually hate Raging cronchfly

[bold breach]

The vertical hitbox is rough, I've mostly stuck with thread storm for dps

[tropic apex]

i somehow thought that ||first sinner|| was a act 3 boss

[ocean bridge]

psa by yours truly to use multibinder on beast cos it barely affects bind speed

[dull cape]

haha. not a boss, in fact there are 2 and they have no titles shown

[foggy tapir]

f u c k y o u

[oblique quarry]

well it is one of the worse ones, does decent damage but cross stitch is better

[noble nacelle]

cant you fight father of the flame act 1?

[short hawk]

literally no (unless you're a TAS because you aren't getting anything else 😭)

[jaunty robin]

Imo it’s one of my favorites along with the parry and ||rune rage||, but I play wanderer and also use ||silk-shot|| to close the distance between opponents when they back off and reposition

I just like running hands

[bold breach]

I've done 100%, just replaying and trying out the tools, crests, and skills I didn't use much on my first playthrough

[umbral ether]

here we go

[oblique quarry]

screw that, it is a boss because of how hard it is early game

[foggy tapir]

so should i use 2 trinket crest for multibinder AND injector band?

[split sigil]

how did i not take damage from ts

[smoky bridge]

Hey I knew Sharpdart was weirdly weaker than It should be on Shaman

[jaunty robin]

You can actually parry shard ground

[foggy tapir]

by the power...OF SHAW!!!!!!!!!!!

[pure oar]

Silk spear has less activation delay than pale nails if you hit a wall with it.

[sinful swift]

Fucking love this guy, best npc ever

[dull cape]

um, it's a fully optional area, you chose to go slam into a wall early game, and it seems like maybe you kept slamming into it

[rocky cosmos]

fr man

[quartz thunder]

im pretty sure its mid compared to the rest

[noble nacelle]

im assuming this is cap

[ocean bridge]

up to you but multibinder beast crest is perfectly fine on its own

[foggy tapir]

act 3 fella?

[whole crest]

it is, its ramattra from ow

[short hawk]

I'm basing this off of a normal playthrough, the only way you get up to wisp thicket and therefore to that boss is via double jump and you usually require clawline to get double jump (clawline is act 2)

[foggy tapir]

oke

[quartz thunder]

what does injector band do to witch crest

[noble nacelle]

what is ow

[dull cape]

pale nails don't pierce, certainly less dmg against multiple enemies

[sinful swift]

Yeah he tells you where craftmetal is

[whole crest]

overwatch

[rocky cosmos]

u bind faster

[smoky bridge]

Speed

[noble nacelle]

ew

[umbral ether]

oh i can just chill here and be safe

[lime radish]

i was going through sinner's road and for me the most evil trap was the wall to the left of the grand bellway bell station, by the time the camera gets unlocked and you can see that wall you have already bumped into it and lost a health right near the end of the delivery

[foggy tapir]

guys the best part of high halls is second sentinel

what a fun boss

[short hawk]

the sound you make when you feel pain (and also when you play Overwatch)

[rocky cosmos]

cap

[foggy tapir]

yes 👍

[nocturne beacon]

UHM WHAT THE HELL OUCH

[dull cape]

IMO if you can properly utilize multibinder then you already have the skillset to not need injectors

[quartz thunder]

i swear its diff with the witch crest

[warm violet]

cleansing myself of sin by starting a new save file and quitting right before entering cogwork dancers room so i dont kill them

[whole crest]

love this build, so much dmg

[sinful swift]

Until he hoops on yo lazy ass

[quartz thunder]

is it not different with the witch crest

[oblique quarry]

tbf, i cheesed it by going into the tunnel so he couldn't jump, therefore removing an attack

[bold breach]

I did that arena before getting double jump, and that isn't a mistake I'll ever make again

[pure oar]

BTW that's 3 shots of pale nails so if it's multiple enemies and or it hits a wall it's just straight losing to silk spear

[foggy tapir]

better than widow and nkg thats for sure

[strong locust]

I think I see exctly whayt you mean yeah
biggest SS flaw right there lmao

[noble nacelle]

i mean its possible technically if you get sharpdart skip and do the mount fay climb with no clawline but i guess

[smoky bridge]

Nope. The damage does come out faster so it's still better.

[oblique quarry]

exactly, just watch out for his indicator if he spawns on top of u

[dull cape]

simply https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWKF9665_zw

[rocky cosmos]

😭 never rank again

[sinful swift]

When the greatest build of all time uses the witch crest

[noble jolt]

1/6 the damage of shaman-volt-threadstorm

[umbral ether]

i still hate you

[terse cloak]

gonna give a big ol' crying towards hunters marsh

[foggy tapir]

i would rather fight any radiance than nkg

[oblique quarry]

we're not all unemployed enough to learn the parry timings buddy

[whole crest]

ofcccc

[tropic apex]

everyone hates him

[umbral ether]

oh act 3 thingie

[rocky cosmos]

why tho

[whole crest]

fr?

[sinful swift]

Fucking HATE that crest

[short hawk]

yeah hence why I said "based off of a normal playthrough" because realistically you won't be doing that your first time around 😭 it's VERY precise and requires multiple deaths for the cocoon to spawn in the right places as pogos

[whole crest]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

[sinful swift]

NO FUCKING HEALING AT ALL AGAINST BOSSES WHAT ARE YOU ON

[umbral ether]

is there anything else in bilewater i need to get

[dull cape]

chatting in a silksong discord is way more "unemployed" than fighting an enemy a couple times and matching a rhythm

[bold breach]

I recently did a Hollow Knight rando run and Deepnest feels so tame now after Bilewater

[foggy tapir]

sure i started the quest before even fighting the hollow knight i think but
JESUS CHRIST HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSE TO WEAVE THROUGH THIS SHIT

[noble jolt]

that shit can skip whole phases It's pretty goated

[nocturne beacon]

||bro fighting through THAT and then seeing a normal freaking spider 😭|| (A3)

[noble nacelle]

yeah i know how to do it lmao i did it 20 hours after it was found

[rocky cosmos]

u heal

[smoky bridge]

Did you know what horrors I have found out?

[sinful swift]

TRY KILLING ||LOST LACE|| WITH IT MF I DARE YOU

[dull cape]

#hk-discussion

[whole crest]

tf u meannnnn

[jaunty robin]

I promise you that build makes it much easier

[smoky bridge]

Father of the Flame takes heavily reduced damage from Architect pogo

[short hawk]

what

[dull cape]

witch crest can heal...

[timid plinth]

i beat LL just fine with witch

[whole crest]

im gonna try it

[oblique quarry]

i've already done that, i'm just bored rn and also multitasking other stuff

[smoky bridge]

So the fight takes FUCKING AGES

[sinful swift]

Not enough

[oblique quarry]

m a g m a b e l l + wanderer's crest

[jaunty robin]

It does the same as most other crest

[nocturne beacon]

||YESSS YESSSS SHERMA YESSS|| (A3) YESSSS!!!!

[noble jolt]

note that if you mash the silk skill button with thread storm it does a lot more damage, just like the charge attack with witch

[short hawk]

I seriously doubt that FoTF said "fuck that crest's down attack in particular" it's probably just bc Architect has the worst down attack in the game on its own

[smoky bridge]

No Jo you don't get it.

[whole crest]

dude u take the bell and its all good

[dull cape]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lost+lace+witch+crest

[sacred crater]

What if I told yall Hornet can fly

[oblique quarry]

i remember that

[timid plinth]

one crest i cant really understand is the shaman

[oblique quarry]

wtf

[short hawk]

LMAO?

[naive geyser]

||Witch|| is pretty cool, I like ||wanderer|| tho. I've also heard ||architect|| is broken as hell.

[whole crest]

ohhh okay i see, gonna try that shit

[oblique quarry]

grubberfly's elegy + shaman stone ahh crest

[smoky bridge]

No. You are a fool. I am killing you with hammers.

Ok so what happens is.

Architect's down pogo is a multihit.

The additional hits activate when you hit an enemy with the pogo.

[noble jolt]

It's busted as hell

[smoky bridge]

But!

Father of the Flame does not count as an enemy

[graceful cairn]

real

[oblique quarry]

destroy the lanterns first?

[smoky bridge]

So you don't get 2/3 of the hits

[sacred crater]

The area I'm in is the memory place after ||First Sinner||

[sinful swift]

"No healing" yeah i can tell why

[smoky bridge]

Those be the fuckers you cannot deal damage to, with your pogo, mi amigo

[foggy tapir]

since hes just....a wooden doll

[naive geyser]

Wisp thicket is such a nothing burger area lmao

[timid plinth]

im not used to the attacks just yet

[short hawk]

aren't all of architect's attacks considered multihits in a way? like the default L/R melees sound like they hit twice?

[timid plinth]

but at least it is not reaper

[bold breach]

Is there any crest that's clearly the worst, or are they all in the same range of quality?

[foggy tapir]

oh FUCK the wispfliers or what ever they are called

[smoky bridge]

Yes, each hit is divided into 3 smaller ones.

[rough dawn]

how do i beat the bell eater 😭

[red hornet]

anyone else find first sinner super fun?? i just beat them first try

[timid plinth]

speaking of reaper...

[short hawk]

depends on the build, they all have potential

[naive geyser]

Different crest are good at different things

[whole crest]

reaper is shit

[foggy tapir]

||idfk im not in act 3 breh||

[naive geyser]

Reaper is alright

[sinful swift]

Just use fire resistence?

[smoky bridge]

They still all give you just 1 silk. But it does make it feel punchier.

[timid plinth]

reaper is fine for safe playstyle

[noble jolt]

it's pretty much permanent grubberfly and shaman Stone baked in

[red hornet]

i used harpoon paired with snitch pick

[bold breach]

I got her second try, definitely a great fight that i was a little too strong for since I only did her in Act 3.

[sinful swift]

At least we can agree on something

[timid plinth]

it is just not the crest to use if you want to be aggressive

[whole crest]

lmao yeaaa

[foggy tapir]

I D I D

T H E Y S T I L L G E T M Y F R A C T U R E D M A S K A N Y W A Y

[nocturne beacon]

oh my god how will i ever beat it (A3)

[smoky bridge]

Fun fact! it appear that Architect can actually deal slightly more damage than other crests with basic damage.

[red hornet]

ooh yeah thats true im also in act 3 so it did feel kinda fast

[naive geyser]

I don't think most people agree with you...

[sinful swift]

Try using hunters crest, faster pogo

[umbral ether]

it ain't

[smoky bridge]

But you do have to basically be kissing the enemy on the mouth to achieve this, so if you spacing is off, you're gonna get contact damaged.

[foggy tapir]

ah gawd it has the n word pass

[short hawk]

oh btw you are free to change your crest to ANYTHING ELSE

[brittle elbow]

bloodstained is such a shame, all the modders are gooners

[foggy tapir]

luckily i already beat it

[agile turtle]

Btw, what do you think it is better: charms or crests/tools?

[whole crest]

my bad gang, reaper is pussy safety gameplay

[inner zephyr]

I wanna get used to hunter

[ebon yarrow]

crests\tools

[sinful swift]

I'm sorry if I somehow made it seem like I care

[umbral ether]

beacuse it has a somewhat normal pogo

[elfin totem]

witch over architect any day architect is boring with how easy it is

[bold breach]

Reaper doesn't really have a high ceiling, every other crest gets something to push it with skilled play

[elfin totem]

reaper is literally ass in general

[brittle elbow]

not even. that switching neutral attack is annoying, sometimes you don't hit coz you're hitting from below

[noble jolt]

Sharman crest makes no-hitting a boss easy

[smoky bridge]

I did change the crest to Hunter and beat Father of the Flame, I'm just saying, it takes significantly reduced damage from Architect pogo, so do not try to beat it with architect. What's your problem.

[naive geyser]

I find red tools are just kind of boring tbh

[sinful swift]

Why do so many people hate hunters crest

[foggy tapir]

YOU are ass in general my friend

[hollow galleon]

Is there a glitch that can help with flea dodge? Seths score is so brutal

[floral kindle]

Tools are better tuned

[sinful swift]

Its the BEST in the whole game

[elfin totem]

dude beast crest is 10x better then reaper

[foggy tapir]

but but but but but but but but but.... cog flies :(

[whole crest]

yeaaaaa so much

[elfin totem]

honestly beasts pogo is good you need to get used to it its way better then reaper crest