sk-discussion

[shut osprey]

go back the way you came drom you'll find Shakra's rings but you need double jump to get those

[ruby forge]

if the liquid in the abyss is void given form then is silk just soul given form? lmk

[limpid bronze]

?

[uncut bolt]

because only higher beings can focus, the soul sanctum guys were trying their best to unlock focus but couldnt

[meager junco]

Thanks

[digital pilot]

Pretty much. the Snail Shamans can use soul, Gods can use soul to heal themselves. Don't know if the snails can do that.

[hollow forum]

I think Sinner's road is the only way

[wind compass]

try to sneak underneath the elevator
hit the lever then jump off and go underneath

[faint tendon]

Horrnet skill are much cooler than the knight

[bitter topaz]

ok thx

[fleet drum]

I need some massive help

[shut osprey]

true

[wind compass]

np

[open path]

okay I think I get why Architects Crest is so strong now

[fast geode]

im mainly basing this off of the seamstress's exposition "to channel one's soul through a thread... a very rare skill something something highly valued something" idr the whole thing but thats the key aspect of it

[hollow forum]

bzzz bzz bzzzzzt

[polar wren]

anyone know what the new update is for??

[uncut bolt]

yeah but knight spells are better than hornet silk spells, but silksong charms are better than hk charms

[open dirge]

i like how they put a little bit more lore to the snail shamans in silksong

[limpid bronze]

this or druid’s eyes for endgame?

[worldly remnant]

dog can i just be annoyed at the game without being shown a much better performance of the fight

[remote ibex]

the weavers can also heal themselves with silk even if theyre not part wyrm

[tall wharf]

nerf a few bosses

[tacit sentinel]

Not common bugs. First Sinner and the many weaverlings of Pharloom are able to create silk. Silk is not unique to her, and it isn't the property of gods

[viscid lion]

Where’s somewhere good I can grind rosaries in act 3?

[faint tendon]

Like we have parry and rune rage and the guy still say the knoght got cooler skill

[hollow forum]

just bug fixes I think

[fast geode]

that

[remote ibex]

druids eye is pretty terrible for endgame

[frosty light]

probably flea if youre already pretty good at the fight without it but druid otherwise

[shut osprey]

they nerfed savage Beastfly

[drowsy hazel]

We don't really know too much about Snail Shamans, except they have some connection to the void. We know that the people at the Soul Sanctum could also use soul, and Groal too.

[polar wren]

NOOO i don’t want to have it easier

[tacit sentinel]

They were sought and captured for their silk to feed gms

[fast geode]

what? yes, i agree, but i never said that it was unique to her or gods

[rapid edge]

What’s with the new update

[hollow forum]

get longclaw

[livid citrus]

I just spent 3 hours trying to get the final pale oil, I raged harder at these fleas than any boss in Silksong or hollow knight

[tall wharf]

dw theyre super early bosses

[digital pilot]

Yea, what was Groal's deal anyway?

[rapid edge]

Xbox says its 2 GBs

[copper iris]

thank you so much

[fast geode]

i just said that silk is an interpretation of soul, and that soul is something that all bugs (likely) innately have

[ruby forge]

only some like gms, hornet, and the beings that gms grants the power to can give soul form (aka silk) and only some beings in hk can give void form

[worldly remnant]

YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WAS THE NERFED VERSION?

[open dirge]

there's a bench near the entrance to high halls, there's 3 enemies, with thief's mark you can get 50-80 rosaries per run (i forgot)

[open path]

my setup for Architect on Steel Soul was literally
Step 1: Plasmium
Step 2: Silkshot
Step 3: Cogflies because why not
Step 4: Profit

[nocturne summit]

Both fights?

[frosty light]

details?

[fast geode]

GUN.

[gritty yarrow]

Wait they nerfed something before I could fight it?

[open dirge]

which silkshot

[remote ibex]

its just a bug fix

[drowsy hazel]

Because the weavers betrayed GMS and some left Pharloom to escape her wrath. She is now capturing the descendants of weavers after waking up.

[open path]

the Mt Fay one

[frosty light]

is the update in beta currently?

[austere cloud]

guys which version did u get

[bitter topaz]

I DID THE ENTIRE AIR TUBE PUZZLE FOR THIS?

[zealous stirrup]

oh you're here to complain?
nvm then

[fleet drum]

I somehow activated the first quest from act 3 while in act 2, and when I went to the snail shamans, it thought that I had already finished that quest, my question is, is it possible to get to the Abyss now

[digital pilot]

Here's another thing. Ghost is a God, a full God, granted, one that was hollowed out by the Void, but still a God. Hornet, is half Weaver (mortal) and half God. But she is still mortal. I'd like to know what part of her abilities, are because of her special powers as a Weaver, and what powers she has because she's half God

[frosty light]

was beastfly bugged?

[fast geode]

wait the weavers were FROM pharloom?? where does it say this

[tacit sentinel]

Architect meta for steelsoul. Just spam infinite plasmium and profit

[polar wren]

i don’t even think i’ve run into it yet

[remote ibex]

i think it just doesnt get stuck off screen in the lava anymore

[zealous stirrup]

not really

[tall wharf]

where are you at in the game rn?

[harsh mica]

I caught the legendary Lace just yesterday

[drowsy hazel]

Do you know what Weavers are?

[digital pilot]

That's half the plot of the first bit of the game

[remote ibex]

first sinner cutscene

[open dirge]

im using the twelth architect one because I SWEAR THAT VERSION IS GOOD I SWEARRR

[open path]

Steel Soul removes what is basically Architects only downside which is wasting Shell Shards on failed attempts

[ruby forge]

so wait who made hornet since shes half wyrm and half weaver

[fast geode]

spiders. they make silk.

[drowsy hazel]

She is a child of Herrah the Beast and the Pale King.

[shut osprey]

i think only the far fields one. I actually can't remember if it was a nerf or they fixed some glitch.

[tacit sentinel]

"The Weavers are a tribe of ancient, intelligent spiders who originally came from Pharloom, a separate land from Hallownest, before migrating to the kingdom to establish a thriving community within the dark recesses of Deepnest."

[wind compass]

song, I like mommy more

[fast geode]

waiiiit i remember now

[dry anchor]

isnt that sherma's job

[short halo]

Was playing silksong just beat a room then got kicked from silksong cuz it needed a update then got back on after and it didn't save my progress

[polar wren]

do we have to use the spoiler mark here?

[drowsy hazel]

They were originally Pharlids that were evolved and given intelligence by Grand Mother Silk.

[fast geode]

cite

[tall wharf]

thankfully no

[fast geode]

ok yeah i remember the first sinner cutscene now

[gritty yarrow]

Yo whats this about somthing being nerfed? Idk what a beastfly is

[arctic cairn]

and GMS is also a pale being? Does pale beings have any extra power or something

[digital pilot]

Wish I knew

[eternal bone]

is 6 masks and a t1 nail enough for blasted steps

[open path]

good, stay innocent

[nocturne summit]

Lucky you

[digital pilot]

If you're good, then you'll be fine

[plush frost]

Hello people of discussion, any tips on defeating the enemy rush in hunters march i feel so dumb 😭 anything specific that would help at all

[polar wren]

well i’m in the cogwork core, where is this beast fly? did i miss it by chance?

[drowsy hazel]

Afaik pale beings are like higher higher beings. Also they like ruling people.

[wind compass]

idk bro I havne't finished the game

[arctic cairn]

guess we just gotta wait for a mossbag lore video

[shut osprey]

i think that was only the first sinner tho since only she has that weird shaped head. All the other weavers have a fully circle head

[eternal bone]

im not though

[ruby forge]

pale king was holding bug parties with 1000 bottles of pale oil

[azure dawn]

hi!! just wanted to say how much i love this game 🥰🥰

[dry anchor]

no way is beastfly actually getting nerfed thats so funny

[fast geode]

"shit got layers"

[hollow forum]

You can get the first nail upgrade for just rosaries so you might wanna do that

[tacit sentinel]

It says in several lore tablets that the weavers came to Hallownest

[eternal bone]

i think i did

[cloud kraken]

Its a really annoying early game fight also I'd recomend exiting ss chat unless you're fine with spoilers

[uncut bolt]

bro im fighting final boss with that setup on steel soul rn, you will be fine

[hollow forum]

Then give it a shot

[digital pilot]

Guess so. Though I do know that a Pale Being, is the same as being a God. All Pale beings are Gods, but not all Gods are Pale Beings.

[eternal bone]

ok this is my first playthrough

[fast geode]

well yes i knew that i just didnt know where they came FROM but now i realize thats what the whole first sinner cutscene was about

[tall wharf]

its in 2 places, 1 in hunters march and 1 from a questline in bellhome

[coarse leaf]

I HATE THE MIST

[meager junco]

Do I need silksoar

[nocturne summit]

Yup

[hollow forum]

where is this

[harsh mica]

No there's a secret eterence somewhere inside the Organ

[wind compass]

Beastfly's in the edge of Hunter's March

[meager junco]

Oh ok

[fast geode]

anyway i still firmly believe that weaver silk is just an interpretation of soul

[sinful lagoon]

@south vigil GREAT NEWS FOR YOU I REMEMBERED YOU

[tacit sentinel]

It isn't

[drowsy hazel]

Isn't that mentioned in the game?

[fast geode]

why not

[shut osprey]

Ain't no party like a buggy party

[south vigil]

hm?

[sinful lagoon]

https://youtu.be/BC9LS9KuCJo?si=keaX-PK0ypWHkMfC LOOK WHAT I FOUND

[remote ibex]

wdym by interpretation

[digital pilot]

All the Gods that aren't Pale Beings, that I know.
Grimm, Radiance, and Unn

[drowsy hazel]

Not weaver silk but Hornet silk at least.

[polar wren]

i haven’t came across hunters match yet, guess i gotta keep exploring

[frosty light]

we could already reasonably deduce the weaevers were from pharloom just from seeing theyd be in the sequel thanks to the first trailer

[south vigil]

HOLY SHIT I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS EARLIER

[hollow forum]

I always thought the lifeblood boy was a god

[drowsy hazel]

Grimm isn't a higher being, the Nightmare Heart is the higher being.

[south vigil]

THANK YOU

[fast geode]

they channel their soul as silk

[sinful lagoon]

(to be clear, video not mine I didnt find this I just saw it and thought of you bc we were all telling you it wasnt possible)

[delicate patio]

after i got ||double jump|| is there any cool charms or whatever theyre called that i can find? maybe point me in the right direction so i still gotta look

[meager junco]

Found it

[fast geode]

that is what i thought the ability of the weavers were

[wind compass]

you can access hunter's march in the marrow.
Search up a guide or smth, I can't explain

[south vigil]

thank youuuu

[hollow forum]

Well you can explore bilewater now

[drowsy hazel]

Joni?

[remote ibex]

whats with the whole renanimation through silk thing then

[cloud kraken]

There's some stuff in upper graymoor

[digital pilot]

I feel that's just specifics. Isn't Grimm like the holder of the heart or something. If nothing else he's the avatar, so I think it's fair and fine to call him a God

[harsh mica]

Well darn guess I can't open the deep docks door anymore :(

[fast geode]

wdym

[hollow forum]

No the bigass creature in the abyss

[sinful lagoon]

anytime my guy it was funny to encounter literally hours after telling you it was impossible

[remote ibex]

gms being able to animate corpses with her silk

[gilded badge]

This'll be huge for the rando gaming

[polar wren]

nah i like to find it on my own, only really ask for help if im stuck, but i appreciate the insight

[fast geode]

why is that in conflict with my idea

[digital pilot]

As for the Lifeblood creature, he's most likely a God, if I'm being honest

[south vigil]

can’t wait to try beating the game without reaching act 2 with this

[remote ibex]

soul has never been shown to do this

[gritty yarrow]

Ngl iv never played a game like this before, this is so far away from my normal range of games, however if an early fight got nerfed im kinda upset. As for spoliers im more or less here because my youtube feed got flooded with them

[wind compass]

Grimm's more of a slave, carrying out the ritual for the Nightmare Heart

[hollow forum]

Yeah cus of all the dreamcatchers surrounding him

[shut osprey]

yeah it is mentioned multiple times that hornet is a "daughter from a disatant land" and i think some dialogue or lore tablet mentions( i think widow) how they hate the weavers of hallownest for it

[wind compass]

oki

[harsh mica]

My LEAST favorite thing about silksong is how limited you are in the order you can get major upgrades, and how linear the majority of game feels at times.

[weary orbit]

i beat act ||3||

[digital pilot]

Well that just means he's connected to the dream world, not that's he a God. but I see the reasoning

[fresh bear]

BRO MOUNT FAY IS SO ANNOYINGGG

[uncut bolt]

hes the vessel of the nightmare heart like hollow knight is to the radiance, but hes not rebellious

[fast geode]

that doesnt necessarily mean that it cant, and i think thats less about the silk and more about gms pulling a radi and using her medium to project her will

[remote ibex]

feels about the same as hk in terms of major upgrade progression/sequence breaks

[hollow forum]

Okay but he has godly aura

[coarse leaf]

im in bilewater with no rosaries for a fast travel or map

[amber needle]

why is the high halls gauntlet so fucking long dude 😭

[hollow forum]

You may want to leave

[digital pilot]

It just makes sense to me for Grimm to be the one who holds the title of the God. Like he's the one who has the heart inside him, because you have to go into his head to get to the heart

[weary orbit]

god speed

[coarse leaf]

how 😭

[round echo]

so I already know what you're supposed to do with the twisting bud, but does the game give you any hints for it at all?

[wind compass]

dw you just gotta tough it out then fight the boss at the top
he flies, so be careful

[harsh mica]

There's only like 4 major upgrades and you're basically forced into getting them all in the same order

[amber needle]

i can't even get cogflies because i don't have a piece of craftmetal 🥀

[viscid lion]

Can I get in here?

[digital pilot]

Yea, fair enough

[weary orbit]

talk to the ||singing guy in bellhart||

[fresh bear]

THERES A BOSS OMFG

[hollow forum]

okay you're screwed

[round echo]

oh

[wind compass]

you can buy one in the marrow for like 60 rosaries

[remote ibex]

hows that different from hollow knight?

[elfin prairie]

til you can enter the mist without entering the bilewater

[hollow forum]

Yeah it's gorb

[amber needle]

think i already did, where is it?

[remote ibex]

claw generally requires dash, cdash requires claw, wings require cdash

[wind compass]

dwwwww the closest bench is like 5 minutes away you'll be finee

[fresh bear]

bro

[fast geode]

WHY ISNT SILK AN INTERPRETATION OF SOUL???

[tacit sentinel]

when you strike enemies, you gain silk, even against non-silk related enemies. Also, she just spawns silk outta nowhere when needleoin'ing. They also mention several times throughout the game that her silk is different cause if her lineage

[amber needle]

it literally is

[hollow forum]

Because L + ratio

[drowsy hazel]

There's also some more higher beings we know. Namely the Gods of Thunder and of Rain.

[wind compass]

he restocks it (not sure whats the trigger, but he does) so js check it out. Head to Bone Bottom

[harsh mica]

Hollow Knight has like 8 and you can get many before others

[nocturne summit]

I got to bile waters by accident through sinners road, it was horrible, I hadnt even finished act 1 and lost like 300 rosaries 🥹 but somehow I made it to the station lol

[amber needle]

oh he restocks, okay

[round echo]

well I'm torn

[remote ibex]

why does she get infinite silk from silk hearts. do they have infinite soul?

[digital pilot]

The ones the Godseeker originally worshipped, from what I know, they're all dead right?

[thick steppe]

silksong is truly the easiest game of all time

[tacit sentinel]

I can't find the ingame lore that says it cuz that's a lot of digging but yaknow

[hollow forum]

The entire game should've just been bilewater

[twin tulip]

[drowsy hazel]

Yep.

[remote ibex]

name the 8

[wind compass]

yeah, I got a craftmetal from him earlier too and js found out today he has another one

[tacit sentinel]

Mods, send him to Bilewater with minimum upgrades 🗣️

[fast geode]

DOESNT THIS SUPPORT MY IDEA?? if you get silk in the exact same way that you get soul then doesnt that show correlation at the very least?? and her conjuring it from nothing is just like non-weaver bugs conjuring soul to cast spells or whatnot???

[round echo]

on one hand I want to get rid of the twisted bud just so it would stop crying in my inventory, but also I want to make this save file as strong as I can before I take on the cursed ending later on

[weary orbit]

silk and soul are the same thing to hornet i think and spiders can natually produce silk

[digital pilot]

Infinite soul is a Godly thing, I thing the silkhearts create a bit of soul that turns into silk. I also don't think that silk can be used the same way as Soul

[remote ibex]

hornet isnt full god and the knight cant even produce infinite soul

[weary orbit]

realized how buns kingsoul was and gave it to us for free

[tacit sentinel]

You're saying that silk is just this game's version of soul, I'm saying her silk is intertwined with soul

[digital pilot]

I think that's because he's hollowed out by the void

[amber needle]

silk is literally described as a manifestion of soul

[dry ferry]

Anyone have a guide for the hunter momento

[digital pilot]

Ghost doesn't produce soul on his own because he has none.

[tacit sentinel]

°

[amber needle]

isn't the merchant supposed to be here

[hollow forum]

kill everything

[digital pilot]

But Ghost's shell can hold soul

[remote ibex]

pure vessel seems to have infinite soul

[fast geode]

oh we're having a misunderstanding

no im saying that silk is the weaver interpretation of, or a version of, soul.

[fresh bear]

LESSS GOOOOO

[drowsy hazel]

Do you have Farsight?

[dry ferry]

No really I mean like locations

[fast geode]

im not syaing that its the game's version of soul, im saying that it literally is soul.

[harsh mica]

Dash, Claw, C Dash, Isma's, Double Jump, Dream Nail, Shade Cloak, Vengeful if you're really experimenting

[round echo]

every location

[tacit sentinel]

So we're fighting ghosts

[dry ferry]

Yes

[hollow forum]

if you're in act 3 then he's where the flea caravan started out

[fast geode]

we're cooked.

[raw ocean]

Do we not get the full map of Verdania or something?

[drowsy hazel]

Which entries are you missing?

[wind compass]

uhh wtf where'd he go
maybe you're further in the game than me, and smth happened? Or maybe its cuz of the Skull Tyrant?

[dry ferry]

Haha

[digital pilot]

There's where I thing the divide between lore and gameplay comes in. You can't just have the boss loss half it's moveset because it's out of energy

[remote ibex]

ok so you somehow think that silksong only has 4

[drowsy hazel]

You get the map outside the memory realm.

[tacit sentinel]

Chat, is it joever. Give us dlc already. Mossbag, drop the lore videos

[digital pilot]

And gain energy from wacking you

[amber needle]

in the Far Fields, it's described that the ability to channel SOUL into silk is a talent once plentiful amongst the kingdom, now dying or something

[raw ocean]

I know but it's not updating the memory realm

[fast geode]

yeah thats one of the things i literally cited 😭

[amber needle]

act 2 😭

[hollow forum]

You can explore it in a dream

[noble kiln]

Merchant leaves if you buy out the shop (excluding stringing beads.)

[harsh mica]

Sprint Claw Clawline and Double Jump

[shut osprey]

Silk is the fabric rich people wear idk why y'all are so pressed about this tbh

[drowsy hazel]

Did you sit at a bench?

[tacit sentinel]

We'll have to wait for mattpat to drop a lore video

[amber needle]

i didn't see that mb 🥀

[hollow forum]

Oh I guess he fucked off

[amber needle]

MAN. where the hell am i getting this fuckass craftmetal now

[fast geode]

nah u good i cant be bothered to read old shit either

[tacit sentinel]

Pressed cuz they're stealing from innocent spiders

[weary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[wind compass]

"I always come back..."

[drowsy hazel]

Yeah, his theory about the Knight being the Pale King was amazing.

[uncut bolt]

what the fuck is even happening here

[raw ocean]

Ohh that was it

[hollow forum]

Hornet is actually sherma or something

[digital pilot]

Hornet taking the power of a God for herself

[tacit sentinel]

We're actually the pale king

[remote ibex]

and silkspear which does the same as vs, needoline which does the same as dreamnail, everbloom which works the same as ismas, and silksoar which works the same as cdash

[fast geode]

HORNET IS GMS???? -mattpat

[dry ferry]

The one after the forebrothers and three after the pharlid diver and one after the penitent

[drowsy hazel]

You're binding Grand Mother Silk's silk.

[arctic cairn]

hornet is songing the silk mommy

[amber needle]

it probably was because of skull tyrant, i cleared all the bone bottom quests 😭

[tacit sentinel]

Hornet and Lace are the same character, also, we're gms

[shut osprey]

"Hornet is actually the first sinner" - patmat

[uncut bolt]

and what did that do?

[hollow forum]

You are become silk, songer of worlds

[wind compass]

duality of men

[weary orbit]

how come her ui is so cool

[harsh mica]

Okay actually I forgot about all of those

silkspear is forced though, unlike vengeful

everbloom has only one application

needolin is actually a valid one

silksoar is guaranteed to be the last one you get so there is no experimenting

[digital pilot]

Give Hornet Silk's power

[amber needle]

steel soul

[fast geode]

absorb her power and.... idfk

[pseudo merlin]

the release if hk : shermas adventure is 3 showers away get your calender ready

[fast geode]

wait actually what happens to hornet in weaver queen ending??

[uncut bolt]

imagine if that was the steel soul ui rather than some shitty silver spool that cant even be seen when its full

[weary orbit]

when i saw that i thought we were gonna go super metroid and break out of pharloom invincible

[wind compass]

😭 he should come back tho, I killed the Skull Tyrant and the merchants still there

[tacit sentinel]

"Hornet's first sin was greed" cut to her gathering rosaries like a maniac. Write it down mattpat

[hollow forum]

No that's what the hud looks like when you absorb the final boss I believe

[swift sand]

why isn't there a grandpa song

[arctic cairn]

how much damage does rune rage do compared to silkspear (ik that does 3x needle)

[wind compass]

can we js get a silksong dating sim

[weary orbit]

i guess it reflects the first ending where the knight takes thk's place

[fast geode]

is weaver queen a "bad ending"?? like is she possessed by gms or something or nah is she just god and we're chill with it

[hollow forum]

I think it does more but the attacks often just miss

[weary orbit]

the same thing just happens i think

[digital pilot]

Hornet's healing powers, Hornet uses her silk to heal her body. Is that a Weaver power, or a God power, or a Weaver power enhanced by God power

[arctic cairn]

it's somewhat like the first ending in HK where you absorb the infection

[hollow forum]

I think she becomes the new queen and just kinda keeps everything possessed by silk

[fast geode]

well yes but what are the consequences of that in this ending

[coarse leaf]

i managed to get out of bilewater somehow, now im hanging out with styx

[fast geode]

ok obviously shes not in her right mind if she does that so yeah its a bad ending

[meager elm]

Rather than possessed, I think it's more of....
Instinct as pale being taking over to dominate and conquer?

[shut osprey]

In that ending hornet gets the omnitrix from ben 10 and turns into four arms

[weary orbit]

i think its a bad ending cause she says she doesn't wanna be the new god i think

[noble jolt]

I made a hollow knight feed for bluesky! so for anyone who uses that social media, here you go!
-# be warned it does include silksong stuff.

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:7o7wahxyaybnoact7atr733e/feed/aaahf5hk76aak

Bluesky

[uncut bolt]

yeah i totally didnt save and quit everytime i got on low hp

[fast geode]

probably this

[remote ibex]

like 4x the amount on the first hit on the enemy and then its decreaseed by 1/2,1/3,1/4 for each consequitive hit

[wind compass]

huh
did I js gaslight myself into thinking I bought the craftmetal before and that he must've restocked?

[drowsy hazel]

The one after Forebrothers is Cragglites, they can be found in the same place as the Craggler. After Pharlid Diver is Shardillard, Sandcarver, and Squirrm. Shardillard has specific spawn locations you can search up. Sandcarvers are the things in the ground in Blasted Steps, you can kill with Pimpillo. Squirrms are located to the right of the entrance to Grindle's shop, you have to play the Needolin to lure them out. After the Penitent is the Puny Penitent, they can be found in the Slab.

[sinful lagoon]

she's got super jump and parachute too

[digital pilot]

Hey brother, sometime, you gotta do what you gotta do. Some might shame you, but I won't.

[amber needle]

you might've

[shut osprey]

then why tf does she do the binding ritual?

[hollow forum]

I believe you

[shut osprey]

is she stupid?

[tacit sentinel]

If weavers could heal then they sure are stupid dying

[uncut bolt]

thats surprisingly low

[harsh mica]

i also forgot about the float i think im stupid

[arctic cairn]

from what I can gather, ||hornet binds the power and silk of GMS, essential becoming the new GMS, and the silk spreads everywhere over Pharloon, taking over all the bugs||

[weary orbit]

yes

[faint tendon]

Fuck belleater

[sinful lagoon]

||hornet absorbing infinite silk to become a higher being||

[remote ibex]

games new and hard

[dry ferry]

Thanks

[fast geode]

she only says that after you progress a lot more and hornet potentially builds an attatchment to the kingdom ( i think)??

[wind compass]

well the game's still new, most ppl haven't even finished the game yet

[hollow forum]

How tf is that surprising most people can barely beat the game normally

[digital pilot]

Well I doubt Hornet can make herself younger with the silk, and there's always the issue of not enough silk

[drowsy hazel]

You're controlling her, you do it, not her.

[weary orbit]

maybe she thinks she's her and can escape her sleep

[ancient mortar]

what are the best 3 spells for shaman stone+volt filament?

[arctic cairn]

I'm at 83% and 80 hours idk how people are doing steel soul 100%

[shut osprey]

Bruh....

[uncut bolt]

just save scum ez

[tacit sentinel]

First Sinner does heal during boss fight

[hollow forum]

I like threadstorm, the homing spears one and the parry

[fast geode]

enjoy the longer road

[wind compass]

guys should I give the baby to the psycho bitch in Shellwood?

[remote ibex]

threadstorm is just always best for that combo in terms of damage. rune rage is second and the others are pretty much tied for damage

[drowsy hazel]

Up to you, personally I love Pale Nails, Silkspear, Cross Stitch, and Threadstorm the most.

[sinful lagoon]

||pretty sure she says at the beginning that she feels pulled to it. Grandma has control over silk, and was the one that originally gave it to the weavers. Hornet, being weaver, has that same silk.||

[weary orbit]

the ritual must commence

[hollow forum]

We can't all be afronts to god

[fast geode]

what use does rune rage have

[remote ibex]

damage

[arctic cairn]

which one is shaman stone? also I believe threatstorm is good, and cross-stitch for defense, the last one you can choose

[digital pilot]

I haven't gotten to that fight, I'm sure that'll be fun to see. But I can't speak on that. Also, how does that go against what I said?

[shut osprey]

Nothing is lore anymore because all of is because I DID IT. So fuck the story ig

[wind compass]

SACRIFICE THE BABY

[uncut bolt]

now i have 3 achievements left, steel heart, speed compeltionist and cursed ending

[sinful lagoon]

bilewater boss

[fast geode]

rather use threadstorm
what else

[weary orbit]

SACRIFICE THE BABY

[tacit sentinel]

I wouldn't do it yet. There's an achievement you lock yourself out of if you don't beat the game with the curse

[drowsy hazel]

It does a lot of damage. Pretty good for arenas or huge enemies.

[ancient mortar]

it seems like threadstorm is ideal for damage, crossstich is ideal for avoiding, and pale nails for hitting hard targets at range

[hollow forum]

Kind of a screenwipe

[arctic cairn]

I have been unknowingly nerfing myself by still using reaper for everything

[weary orbit]

i knew it

[fast geode]

ok so crowd control

[remote ibex]

damage to more enemies spread over a wider area, youre vulnerable for less time, higher damage potential im pretty sure,

[shut osprey]

at the beginning as in the beginning of the game?

[weary orbit]

WE LOVE BEAST MARK RAHHHHH

[drowsy hazel]

Pale Nails is amazing for enemies that keep teleporting around quickly like LL.

[hollow forum]

Yeah although the explosions can be innacurate

[tacit sentinel]

It doesn't. I was just following up on the dumb joke I made

[wind compass]

I have to beat the game with no crest or tools and can't heal? wth

[fast geode]

vulnerable for LESS time? what about the giant ass windup that erases your entire silk bar if you get hit during it

[digital pilot]

Ahh, ok

[tacit sentinel]

Yes. You have to beat the game while cursed

[digital pilot]

I've done it, not that bad, though not fun either

[sinful lagoon]

yeah sorry. I dont remember the exact conversation but i do recall her mentioning that she feels a pull towards that place where grandma silk resides

[tacit sentinel]

So wait until you have gms unlocked

[drowsy hazel]

Threadstorm has highest damage for single target, Rune Rage can do higher total damage only if it hits multiple enemies.

[wind compass]

😭

[remote ibex]

well if you dont do the full thread storm then its much less damage than rune rage and if you do it then youre vulnerable for longer and also have to be in the enemies face

[shut osprey]

Also, tf is the twisted child? Is he just james corden?

[tacit sentinel]

I'm gonna do it on my sub30h safefile if I have enough time leftover

[fast geode]

right i forgot about the varying duration

[pure shoal]

Playing ss makes me realize hk gave us more lore

[digital pilot]

Go ahead champ

[wind compass]

feed it to a lady in shellwood

[sinful lagoon]

its actually not that bad. the cursed moveset is actually pretty good and grandma is pretty easy. you got this

[hollow forum]

No because he is useful to society and unlocks an upgrade

[short cargo]

genuinely how do you beat shakra she genuinely tries to slime you out

[drowsy hazel]

SS has a lot of lore.

[fast geode]

so basically rune rage is more versatile than threadstorm

[drowsy hazel]

Play defensively, understand the moveset.

[tacit sentinel]

I beat sub5h speedrun earlier today so with most abilities already unlocked it shouldn't be too bad

[digital pilot]

Another thing, does anyone else thing that old Grandma Silk is an easy fight?

[wind compass]

ight I'll do it
first, I need to get all 3 melodies

[shut osprey]

yeah i think i remember something similar

[drowsy hazel]

Most people.

[sinful lagoon]

good news is it doesnt give completion percent or a reward (I'm coping so hard with the fact that I locked myself out of her fight by mistake)

[shut osprey]

i meant the twisted child

[fast geode]

its not easy but its not hard either

[remote ibex]

ig. i personally like it more for either big enemies or flying enemies since they like to move out of the way of thread storm

[hollow forum]

Yeah but it makes sense for a fake final boss, same as the hollow knight from the first game

[digital pilot]

I think it's pretty easy, especially compared to many of the other fights in Silksong

[tacit sentinel]

Yeah. gms is very easy, but tbf, so is THK. We only really got hard fights in HK through dlc

[south vigil]

does anyone know what specifically triggers the guy that captures you and takes you to the slab

[wind compass]

ohh ok

[digital pilot]

Normal Radiance? Yea, pretty easy.

[paper vapor]

Oh my god mount fay was the most stressful things I’ve ever done. Sure the platforming wasn’t as hard as the cogwork core climb, but the freeze mechanic was just this perpetual stress of “when’s it gonna start freezing?”

[coarse leaf]

"weavenest murglin" who tf is naming these

[tacit sentinel]

I now realize that Radiance was also dlc, but yeah, point stands

[short cargo]

shakra is actually a shit boss never seen one that spams this much

[pure shoal]

I'm honestly rlly mad because I didn't get the blind experience of ss.
Youtube thumbnails, some person in this DC server I blocked, youtube videos which seem like friendly but inside its full of spoilers without warning..

Even despite that I feel like I'm reliving hk vibes because I know the lore and important plot points

Not the gameplay

[digital pilot]

Pardon?

[fast geode]

yeah lace 2 was harder for me and a lot of act 3 content blows gms out of the water

[proper otter]

yeah but honestly I kind wish gms had more varied attacks like radiance did, gms only had like, 3 attacks off the top of my head while radiance has like 5-6 different ones

[shut osprey]

i think that's a very vague ending. ||We don't really know what came out of that. Is it just greyroot because the quest is called rite of rebirth?||

[arctic cairn]

well I guess I have to start another file again

[queen spindle]

Anyone making silksong yt content?

[sinful lagoon]

yeah only curse yourself once you've gotten the regular act 2 ending. You can give her the kid just say no to the quest. Progress til you beat the game normally, then go curse yourself and do it again

[eternal bone]

whats the nearest bench to last judge

[pure shoal]

Me

[sinful lagoon]

the one you're using

[drowsy hazel]

GMS attack style is similar to the Radiance but she's equivalent to THK in terms of where she's at narratively. The final boss that's not the final boss.

[queen spindle]

Yoo you need some thumbnail maker or anything like that?

[hollow forum]

The tramway one

[digital pilot]

Yea, and I'm saying that Grandma Silk is easy, that's coming from me, whose bad at the game

[tacit sentinel]

I'm sorry my HK memory is chopped. Forgot that she was a part of base game

[eternal bone]

im using the one back at deep docks is that ok?

[wind compass]

YESS I CAN ABANDON THE BABY

[sinful lagoon]

LMFAO NEVERMIND

[eternal bone]

so its bad?

[fast geode]

yeah im speaking relatively

[digital pilot]

Yea, what you said there made no sense.

[queen spindle]

Same lol

[eternal bone]

because it takes like 45 minutes to rujn back

[remote ibex]

wat

[pure shoal]

I would like it but sry no
I'm sorta focusing on making meme regarding it now. Thanks alot though

[iron scroll]

is threefold pin or shakras ring better?

[sinful lagoon]

yeah youre so far away wtf go get the blasted steps tramway and use the bench there

[digital pilot]

Last Judge, he was pretty easy too. Clockwork Dancer as well.

[drowsy hazel]

You should get the bench at the Ruined Chapel.

[queen spindle]

Bet no worries good luck man

[shut osprey]

Funny thumbnails i make

[pure shoal]

Thx

[eternal bone]

you said the one im using is fine though

[fast geode]

they filled their roles well as gateway bosses

[queen spindle]

I could make this

[hollow forum]

violent war photographs

[digital pilot]

I love Edra

[drowsy hazel]

Shaman crest was foreshadowed from the beginning since the area is called the Ruined Chapel.

[coarse leaf]

been 4 hour in that damn parkour and im almost done

[shut osprey]

i don't doubt it

[pure shoal]

Garmond and Zaza vs shaw and era/herrah

[queen spindle]

Yay

[sinful lagoon]

yeah sorry the deep docks one is the closest 😇

[bleak kettle]

i beat silk song in 2 hours 🥱

[tacit sentinel]

Bit of a woopsie daisy.

That said, base game Silksong bosses are obviously harder than base game HK, across the board

[hollow forum]

Gotta save the best crest for last

[fast geode]

not trivial by any means but not crushingly difficult

[digital pilot]

The dancers? yea. for sure one of the coolest bosses in the game though. I really liked them

[brittle elbow]

bell beast plushie

[coarse leaf]

i just know that its gonna be like path of pain and just give lore info and no reward 😭

[short cargo]

im not beating shakra vro

[tacit sentinel]

Sadly we also have a LOT of gimmick bosses in Silksong

[fast geode]

ok i gotta go eep

[remote ibex]

gn

[hollow forum]

I'm not sure, I think Watcher Knights took me more tries than any fight in Silksong

[shut osprey]

How you like this one?

[sinful lagoon]

which?

[coarse leaf]

what version of the silkshot is the most fun to use?

[south vigil]

what triggers the wardenfly (guy that takes you to the slab) to spawn

[digital pilot]

I think it has to do with movement, both Hornet's movement, and the bosses. But there's another thing, and that's the fact, that EVERYTHING does double damage!

[coarse leaf]

the cradle parkour in act 3

[sinful lagoon]

the laser

[remote ibex]

its not has hard as pop

[pure shoal]

Finally someone else struggled in watcher knights not only me.
But.
It's easy with the shade vengeful spirit (god 19 hours in silksong and I'm already forgetting hk??)

[brittle elbow]

the one that's like silkspear

[hollow forum]

Isn't he just chilling in bilewater

[iron scroll]

what is better: shakras ring or threefold pin?

[tacit sentinel]

Watchers aren't that difficult they're just tanky, and at the point you're supposed to be meeting them in the game, you're not going to be very experienced with the combat yet

[south vigil]

i like the normal one, it’s just gun and i love it

[remote ibex]

in terms of damage threefold pin

[coarse leaf]

the fay one right

[shut osprey]

is it just me or the greymoor theme remind yall of one ost in witcher 3m

[south vigil]

there’s multiple locations it spawns, i just don’t know when

[pure shoal]

Isn't he just in the ant room.

[ancient mortar]

would yall say shaman is op? because man that damage is something

[digital pilot]

As for the Watcher Knights thing, I think that's because, when you first played Hollow Knight, you were bad, and now you're good, so I think it's kinda unfair to compare Hollow Knight bosses, who you've fought countless times, to Silksong bosses, who you're fighting for the first time

[chilly horizon]

I won't be able to play silksong outside of weekends because of school :=(

[hollow forum]

Yeah tbf I played the shit out of the first game and did all the godhome stuff so it makes sense that Silksong would be easy

[sly sigil]

Someone slide me skong frfr

[iron scroll]

I mean damage is what matters right

[sinful lagoon]

its a mr mushroom quest location I guess but other than that yeah pretty much

[remote ibex]

well ig but her rings can bounce and hit multiple enemies so i think they have higher damage potential

[digital pilot]

I thought the same thing, and yet I still suck at Silksong, even though I was damn good at Hollow Knight

[ruby forge]

wait wait wait......

[tacit sentinel]

Endgame Knight is also just straight up stronger than endgame Hornet. Shade dash alone solos Hornet. Not to mention ddark

[harsh mica]

Alright. 9 Masks, 8 extra spools, i'm READY!!

[hollow forum]

I guess I was just expecting more challenge after seeing so many people complain about the difficulty, but none of the bosses really made me mad or anything

[coarse leaf]

why the fuck is a npc there and how did they end up in that hell 😭

[digital pilot]

Yea, Ghost is stronger, he's a God after all. Hornet's a half breed

[remote ibex]

whats the knight gonna do when hornet sprints away tho

[harsh mica]

Hey. Hey did you know that the number 67 existed before the meme? crazy

[shut osprey]

foreshadowing

[tacit sentinel]

Shade soul that bitch

[sinful lagoon]

I have a suggestion if you'll hear it- since most of the platforming is clawline-based, do the lifeblood trick with architect crest. infinite health at the cost of having to use a mid pogo

[remote ibex]

jump

[native canyon]

silking and songing

[eternal bone]

how much health is left of last judge after the start ofphase 2

[amber needle]

high halls gauntlet is ass

[tacit sentinel]

Cdash

[eternal willow]

Guys

[sinful lagoon]

saved me lots of time though

[coarse leaf]

i did but the pogo with artitect crest is horrible

[hollow forum]

I don't remember it having alot of health

[ruby forge]

no it didnt this is misbugfornation

[digital pilot]

That makes me thing, if you put Ghost in Pharloom, like endgame, ready for P5 Ghost, in Pharloom. How do you think he'd fair

[noble jolt]

he is the master harold

[eternal bone]

it has a lot odf damage

[harsh mica]

yeah sorry i lied

[coarse leaf]

steel soul idea: the maggot water effect deals one mask a second once you run out of silk for the maggots to eat

[tacit sentinel]

Also, fuck is hornet gonna do against wall cling storage

[remote ibex]

silksoar

[sinful lagoon]

thats how I did it 🤷‍♂️

[digital pilot]

For an adorable flea you're a monster

[tacit sentinel]

Shriek pogo

[hollow forum]

steel soul idea: shoot hornet with a gun

[remote ibex]

runs out of soul

[coarse leaf]

imma just endure and get gud

[tacit sentinel]

Mods

[remote ibex]

what the hell

[tacit sentinel]

ggez

[shut osprey]

defeat pantheon 5 without giving the goodseeker flower. She'll get consumed by the void

[eternal willow]

Guys will i miss anything forever after advancing to act 2?

[harsh mica]

yes

[remote ibex]

whats the knight gonna do when hornet places 500 tacks, spikes and automatic flies that kill everything in sight and makes them poisonous to touch and then does the pure vessel soul attack

[shut osprey]

yes

[eternal willow]

What is it

[digital pilot]

Yup, poor thing too. She either gets devoured by the Shade Lord, or popped out of existence by the flower.

[noble jolt]

3 things

[remote ibex]

everbloom

[harsh mica]

in the blasted steps, you are able to gamble

have you gambled your heart out and got the dice

[eternal willow]

Thanks for reminding me about that

[bleak kettle]

NOOOOOO I MISSED IT

[tacit sentinel]

Or just sealed siblings her ass. Where's she gonna go?

[shut osprey]

||shakra and garmond|| fights

[ancient mortar]

some text and such, but you arent locked out of any items

[eternal willow]

How tho

[remote ibex]

the knight is chained up how is that a win smh

[tacit sentinel]

It's a win cuz the knight is into bondage

[sinful lagoon]

ddive

[harsh mica]

no that's when you're in act 2 already they're talking about stuff you can't do in act 3

[ancient mortar]

those are only cancelled in act 3

[digital pilot]

Well, in Sealed Silbings, Hornet isn't going anywhere, that's for sure

[eternal bone]

last judge runback is worse than hive knight runback holy shit

[remote ibex]

sharpdart

[eternal willow]

Oh

[tacit sentinel]

The humble ddark to clear everything:

[hollow forum]

Wait what I fought garmond in act 3

[harsh mica]

wrong one

[sinful lagoon]

that shit has so much windup lets be so fr they are not equals

[remote ibex]

architect crest and replace it all smh

[eternal willow]

So should i js gamble then fight the last judge

[harsh mica]

yeah

[remote ibex]

its a few milliseconds of difference what the hell

[summer hatch]

yea and atleast with hive knight u just dont loose

[ancient mortar]

is getting which crest still a softlock in act 3?

[tacit sentinel]

That's it. Put cotton on the sticks. He won't get hit

[hollow forum]

is there another one?

[eternal bone]

thansk for the affirmation

[harsh mica]

you can't do it now

[remote ibex]

wdym by softlock

[short hawk]

starting up today's Lost Lace Cross Stitch only attempts in silksong VC :)

[shut osprey]

bro I'm so sorry i misread the question and spoiled your ass 😭😭😭

[sinful lagoon]

a few milliseconds too many do you know how many times ive tried to panic sharpdart and gotten hit for it 😔 doesnt happen with ddark

[remote ibex]

happens all the time with ddark smh

[shut osprey]

no, ||base Garmond and zaza||

[tacit sentinel]

"misread" average Silksong discordian the second they gets a chance to spoil

[ancient mortar]

npcs needed to cure the parasite are dead, in act 3, if you get infected in act 3 then you can't cure it

[digital pilot]

In one ending, I'm not sure if it's Seal Silbings or not, but Hornet becomes a Dreamer, who locks the black egg. And she's inside the black egg, making her impossible to get to, and thus making the perfect seal.

[eternal willow]

Its okay i already knew the shakra one just not when

[remote ibex]

theres only one needed and they're still alive

[sinful lagoon]

how does one cross-stitch only? Like, no regular nail hits either?

[shut osprey]

genuinely misread "to" as "from", even used the spoiler tags

[hollow forum]

I fought him after he was infected with void

[ancient mortar]

the guys who give you the needles die

[remote ibex]

its on their corpse

[harsh mica]

Yes i know

[arctic cairn]

nah I got witch crest only after getting to act 3

[ancient mortar]

okay so they did patch it

[tacit sentinel]

Back to school 😢

[remote ibex]

no it was always like that

[amber needle]

WHY IS THE HIGH HALLS GAUNTLET SO FUCKING LONG 😭

[remote ibex]

i did act 3 witch crest before any patch dropped

[round echo]

I wouldn't have it any other way

[sinful lagoon]

yarnaby is dead???

[shut osprey]

nah i ditched school for silksong

[tacit sentinel]

The humble wanderers crest and cogflies:

[harsh mica]

how do i upgrade

[arctic cairn]

nah

[amber needle]

can't get cogflies

[arctic cairn]

oh yeah what does this do lol

[tacit sentinel]

Back when Elden Ring dropped I used to skip class to play

[remote ibex]

act 3 only

[round echo]

what's the point of this room anyway

[harsh mica]

i delayed ending act 2 so i could upgrade now im anger

[sinful lagoon]

upgrades curveclaw in act 3

[hollow forum]

The map girl can help you out

[shut osprey]

very cool

[round echo]

it's just a buncha guys throwing pins at targets

[digital pilot]

The way to the nameless town, when I went through that, I though I was going through Silksong's path of pain, though that could just be me being bad at parkour

[ancient mortar]

no the guys who give you needles, they used to not have them on their corpse in act 3

[tacit sentinel]

If you're in high halls you can get cogflies. Just need a metal

[tacit sentinel]

I know right

[amber needle]

that's exactly why i can't get cogflies

[ancient mortar]

was rough, not as bad as pop tho imo

[eternal bone]

last judge has 3 phases?

[tough quiver]

Are there any things in act 1 which are optional but make the game easier

[eternal willow]

Guys what is the best act one crest?

[tacit sentinel]

Go find metal

[short hawk]

no regular nail hits - since Weavelight increases the number of silk notches that automatically regenerate, I can use a spell once it finishes recharging

[hollow forum]

reaper

[digital pilot]

Not, not as bad as the Path of Pain, but it was rough

[tacit sentinel]

Wanderer

[harsh mica]

Reaper absolutely EATS judge

[amber needle]

i literally don't know where the last 2 pieces are 😭

[shut osprey]

wanderer

[sinful lagoon]

ohhhh right! I forgot bout that

[eternal willow]

What does it do

[harsh mica]

eat

[arctic cairn]

you mean crests, mask and spool shards, tools?

[eternal bone]

is reaper that good

[remote ibex]

reaper SUCKS

[sinful lagoon]

are you running shaman crest then for the extra damage?

[digital pilot]

Reaper's upswing kinda sucks, but, I won't hate on the one crest I actually use, so eh

[harsh mica]

yes trust i am reaper always forever

[eternal bone]

it feels so slow and hard to play with

[tough quiver]

Stuff like that yeah but I don’t wanna go on a 2 hr scavamger hunt

[tacit sentinel]

Making my way to nameless town when double jump was bugged was so miserable, but still not as miserable as my first time through mount fey

[sinful lagoon]

like everything that isnt directly in the way of you getting to last judge yeah

[eternal willow]

What are the differences between reaper and hunters crest

[meager nova]

watching fireborn's vod really makes me realize how many different routes you can take in this game, he went in directions i didnt think were possible

[shut osprey]

Reaper crest is good but wanderers is faster, add it with flea brew and just melt the bosses

[digital pilot]

Mountain was annoying, though I didn't think it was that bad. Maybe I just surpressed the memory though

[tacit sentinel]

No, it's not 💀

[thick steppe]

name an easier game than silksong

[harsh mica]

Normal pogo, better range, and when you bind you'll gain extra hits when hitting enemies

[tough quiver]

Like what , i need to defeat last judge and i skipped out on a lot since I didn’t have rosaries at the time

[ancient mortar]

reaper is statistically the worst in the game

[eternal bone]

thoiught so

[tacit sentinel]

I was pretty dog at clawline at that point so I just got fucked

[shut osprey]

can't

[hollow forum]

Yeah but it's too short

[digital pilot]

You messing around or do you actually think Silksong is easy?

[sinful lagoon]

I played celeste for years silksong platforming was nothin 😮‍💨

[arctic cairn]

hunter is basic one, reaper provides silk after binding but lower attack speed, wanderer has crazy high attack speed but very small reach, beast can only heal from attacking enemies after you bind. honestly your choice, test it out if you want

[fresh wing]

Guys are there any other missable ending besides ||the cursed one?
And I got this quest silk and soul, which I didn't take, cus I presumed it changes the ending||

[eternal willow]

Cant i just spam the last judge with poisoned tools

[eternal bone]

minecrafr

[hollow forum]

As far as I know there are only 3 endings

[remote ibex]

base ending

[harsh mica]

yes but not fun and the only good poison tool you could have access to rn is tacks

[meager nova]

only good for people who really need the extra silk, its a crutch crest for early game if you ask me

[graceful cairn]

honestly id say hunters crest (the default)

[amber needle]

is this accurate 🥀
-# i still don't understand it lowk because i forgor where i found harpoon

[digital pilot]

I've found it to be amazing. What do you mean though

[tacit sentinel]

||Snared Silk and Cursed are missable||

[remote ibex]

base ending and cursed can both be missed

[polar wren]

should i update my game while im playing?

[burnt patrol]

yess
i hope they add something really platforming-focused in one of the dlc's, the movement feels really good and has potential for amazing platforming challenges

[hollow forum]

It is amazing don't listen to them

[eternal willow]

What is that

[sinful lagoon]

go explore my guy you dont need us to point you in a direction like a dog playing fetch. you just said you skipped a bunch of stuff, the stuff that is going to help you is in the places you skipped. If you need one pointer, the forge daughter in deep docks has something that will help with Last Judge specifically.

[fresh wing]

Can u spoil the first ones condition?

[tacit sentinel]

All endings can technically be missed except act 3 ending

[remote ibex]

snared silk is not missable

[graceful cairn]

they mean it technically as the lowest dps

[hollow forum]

Mount Fay was peak

[harsh mica]

Explore upper greymoor you'll find a new area

[modest jetty]

i think this is the worst thing ive ever faced. harder than any boss. i think it took me 20 tries

[stiff briar]

f brightvein, this bullcrap area is ten times worse than bilewater

[remote ibex]

||snared silk is required for act 3 ending||

[ancient mortar]

it has the lowest dps amongst all the crests, by a significant amount, its benifit is not strong enough to outclass that, as its silk gain is worse for spell builds than shaman and worse for healing builds than witch

[burnt patrol]

favorite area for suree

[digital pilot]

I mainly like the downswing, I can pogo again, and I'm the pogo master of Hollow Knight, so it feels good. Though I don't like Wanderer, it's range is too short

[hollow forum]

wow

[meager nova]

is there a different ending if you bind with the silk snare instead of starting act 3

[coarse leaf]

i got both the bellway and map for bilewater! i just had to backtrack all the way to sinner's road and back

[eternal willow]

Yes i forgot about upper greymoor

[deft thistle]

SINNERS ROAD FUCKING SUCKS THIS IS THE WORST AREA IN THE FCUCKIGNDNFKAME'

[drowsy hazel]

Crystal Peak.

[remote ibex]

same as normal ending

[graceful cairn]

this tbh

[hollow forum]

Pretty much exactly how I feel about both crests

[eternal willow]

Fr

[harsh mica]

inside that area you'll find a quest where you can get tacks

[modest jetty]

i just suck at platforming ;.;

[drowsy hazel]

Sinner's Road top 3 areas fosho

[coarse leaf]

real

[ancient mortar]

wait till you find bilewater 🙂

[tacit sentinel]

What's the ending called where the silk spills out onto Pharloom?

[graceful cairn]

wait till you find bilewater

[hollow forum]

Bro clearly hasn't found bellhart smh

[digital pilot]

Glad we have a consensus

[drowsy hazel]

Weaver Queen

[deft thistle]

SINNERA ROAD SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKS I HAVE LOST SO MANY ROSARIES TO THIS HORRIBLY DESIGNED PILE OF SHIT DISGUISED AS AN AREA FUCK THIS BRO WHY DOES EVERYTHING DO TWO MASKS

[remote ibex]

weaver queen

[meager nova]

thanks, now I wont bother with that on my next playthrough lol

[tacit sentinel]

That's the one I meant. Woops

[shut osprey]

i was so sure the bird thingy was a fight... Kinda disappointed that it wasn't:(

[deft thistle]

WHY DO I HAVE TO DEAL WITH MY HP BEING FUCKING DECIMATED BY ENEMIES WITH HITBOXES THE SIZE OF SHAKRA BRO 💔

[sinful lagoon]

nah there's worse.

[eternal willow]

Git gud

[shut osprey]

does mount fay even have a boss?

[drowsy hazel]

Which enemy?

[digital pilot]

Bellhart? Worse than Sinner's Road?

[gloomy fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/we-got-bad-news-gif-2066997305184123543

[hollow forum]

I was so happy because I was done with that freezing bullshit

[tacit sentinel]

I'm glad it wasn't a fight. I'm furious I couldn't fly bird

[bleak lark]

has issues with spacing without long claw, im not denying wanderers is a dps machine but in a game with 2 mask contact damage you better be immaculate at keeping distance

[remote ibex]

yeah

[drowsy hazel]

Yes.

[hollow forum]

Yeah in act 3

[tacit sentinel]

||Pinstress||

[coarse leaf]

there should be a faydown override for when i want to just glide

[eternal willow]

Guys where can i find the second beastifly

[graceful cairn]

yeah but it sucks

[arctic cairn]

apparently there's bosses you get from the wishes

[drowsy hazel]

Just gotta get used to it. I'm using Wanderer for Steelheart.

[hollow forum]

That was my attempt at a joke

[arctic cairn]

it's a wish

[meager nova]

sinner's is a vibe

not a good one but its the perfect transition into the hell that is bilewater

[eternal willow]

What

[shut osprey]

i forgor

[tacit sentinel]

Failed joke is actually the last % for 113%

[remote ibex]

reaper really does not have much more range

[coarse leaf]

bilewater is giving blighttown flashbacks

[digital pilot]

Mmm, I thought so, though I feel the need to confirm that you don't have some odd beef with the townfolk

[shut osprey]

i am 😎

[hollow forum]

This is what makes me the ultimate Hollow Knight player

[bleak lark]

its still a risk on many bosses for a number increase

wanderers is the speedrunner crest

[tough quiver]

?? What but I don’t even know what to buy , where to buy , how to combo with wanderes crest

[digital pilot]

Truly God Gamer.

[remote ibex]

beast is the speedrunner crest tbh

[arctic cairn]

you know the things from the task boards in the towns, you get to fight the second beastfly boss from accepting a wish (either from bellhart or bone bottom)

[honest cedar]

Wdym speedrunner crest bruh speedruns use hunter

[hollow forum]

No but I have beef with that perv in the flea caravan I'm gonna smite his ass

[stiff briar]

is there a quest for an item that gives you infinite plasmium regen? saw this posted a few times but I think it's trolling

[tacit sentinel]

That's how you unlock Failed Champ's harder cousin for the secret last %

[iron pulsar]

What Shakra map am I missing?

[remote ibex]

speedrunners use shaman and hunter

[gloomy fjord]

Is witch crest even good

[eternal willow]

Ohhh

[digital pilot]

I hate the Beast crest's downswing, though I'm no speedrunner, so I don't know

[sharp agate]

May i get a good night? 🥺

[bleak lark]

thats one tip makes all the difference believe it or not

[tacit sentinel]

I'll take my chance to smack him any time he peeps

[arctic cairn]

if you get used to binding near enemies, it can get really good

[coarse leaf]

goodnight

[tacit sentinel]

Goodnight pookie

[digital pilot]

Heheh, I was going lay waste to him when I caught his ass

[remote ibex]

its like 10% more range for half the attack speed smh

[meager nova]

not shakra but the prison in top left

[mental pebble]

putrified ducts i think

[empty tendon]

wanderer has more range than hunter? they have to have messed this up

[arctic cairn]

goodnight :)

[hollow forum]

Wait can you do that

[bleak lark]

damage minmaxxer crest

go ahead pick apart my wording

[remote ibex]

they have pretty much the exact same

[digital pilot]

You don't get that map from her. I think

[sinful lagoon]

so experiment! You dont have to know everything to try something. Everything in the game is collectible, it's not like grabbing one thing is going to lock you out of collecting another. Part of the experience is putting those things together yourself and trying new things, and that's ruined if you just ask for a handhold every time you struggle.

[eternal willow]

Is he gonna show up like that one beast in bone bottom

[empty tendon]

-_-

[remote ibex]

wanders has such a small arc thats why its hard to hit enemies

[drowsy hazel]

Correct.

[pearl slate]

I've been on the High Halls arena for over an hour and finally passed it

[tacit sentinel]

Yes. When you see him peeping, just slash him. You get unique dialogue from it and free access to bathe from then on

[thick steppe]

i can beat this game with my eyes closed playing with my feet upside down 5 fps

[graceful cairn]

yeah and he lets you in for free afterwards

[arctic cairn]

nah you track him to a location and then fight him there

[mental pebble]

it took me like 4 tries

[eternal willow]

Oh okay

[digital pilot]

I guess that answers my question, though two whole anime arcs went by in your response time

[sinful lagoon]

its not easy but it certainly wasnt as hard as day 1 whining made it seem

[bleak lark]

you see the arc wanderers has in comparison right

[hollow forum]

I can't believe I didn't do this

[arctic cairn]

nah wanderers range is so much smaller than hubter

[tacit sentinel]

I saw him peeping when I was taking a bath and discovered it on my own

[hollow forum]

I agree, I don't think it's hard to the point of being unfun, it's a fair challenge

[polar stag]

Just beat Crawfather

[honest cedar]

I don't remember which map Shakra sells of these but you're missing Putrified Ducts and Slab

[remote ibex]

if you look at the horizontal range its basically the exact same with wanderer being slightly longer sometimes even

[digital pilot]

Silksong is hard, I'll say that much. though I wouldn't say it's too hard. It pissing me off that everything does double damage, but aside from that, I think it's ok

[deft thistle]

styx scared the shit out of me

[remote ibex]

yes but if its a ground enemy then it doesnt matter

[drowsy hazel]

Really?

[digital pilot]

I like him, he's sweet

[deft thistle]

yeah but i was so read to get absolutely obliterated again 😭

[polar stag]

Yeah

[arctic cairn]

really? have to test that out at some point

[upbeat pilot]

anyone else think it was a missed opportunity to not name the Court of Craws the "Court of Craw" (Court of Law)

[deft thistle]

thought i was boutta have a bossfight ON A BENCH

[hollow forum]

Tbf if I went back to the first game I think I would feel defenseless only being able to heal 1 mask at a time

[sinful lagoon]

i well and truly did not think the double damage was ever an issue.

[graceful cairn]

why was the steel soul exclusive quest so useless man

[tough quiver]

Idk man , i enjoy playing without walking around aimlessly , looking for upgrades , that’s just my way i enjoy video games

[mental pebble]

Also guys yur prob gonna think i'm crazy for this but I like diagonal pogo

[tacit sentinel]

They've tuned back double damage from multi hits

[drowsy hazel]

Reminds me of Widow glitched fight.

[sinful lagoon]

I'm gonna go back and play hk again after i finish with silksong

[graceful cairn]

ME TOO

[remote ibex]

it gives a pretty good reward and cool lore imo

[harsh mica]

Oops i got the bad ending

[full spade]

why didnt i get rosaries for doing the delivery

[bitter blade]

Diagonal pogo is peak

[digital pilot]

I have done nothing but play Silksong for weeks. I'm afraid that if I go back to Hollow Knight, that I'll get bodied by False Knight or something.

[upbeat pilot]

||try to beat a hollow knight game without ending the world challenge: (IMPOSSIBLE)||

[polar stag]

He's more scared(and other feelings) by you than you are of him.

[digital pilot]

Because I've lost all my muscle memory from Hollow Knight

[strange yew]

Is it weird how other than the boss I find bilewater to be one of my favorite areas to run around in

[sinful lagoon]

then why are you playing a metroidvania that's the whole gameplay loop 😭 learn to embrace not knowing my guy. Like I said, the biggest help to you is a tool you can get from the forge daughter in deep docks, I'd start there.

[deft thistle]

i like him now but yk

[hollow forum]

No run button...

[mental pebble]

i think all endings in silksong involve ending the world or almost doing it

[tacit sentinel]

Flower quest + Mr Mushroom

[hollow forum]

It's a fine area, didn't piss me off personally

[digital pilot]

Yea, that and I'll be over here trying to summon my Cogflies while King Grimm looks at me like "What are you doing?"

[graceful cairn]

sounds like youre not a metroidvania kinda guy then

[polar stag]

The silkeaters are nice and all but he's kinda a simp

[bleak lark]

half of progression bosses become airborne at some point of the fight

[cedar violet]

https://youtu.be/CFXDzUnVab0
silly thingo

[brittle elbow]

nah you can only use one on the same slot at a time. i assume they're on the order of the crests in player.log

[tacit sentinel]

I mean act 3 you're ||saving lace||

[noble jolt]

sherma is so funny because the character has like 70 death flags and yet he never dies

[graceful cairn]

oh goodness i forgot about that

[honest cedar]

After you've already fucked Pharloom up completely

[mental pebble]

you obviously don't have silk speed anklets

[digital pilot]

Yea, try to run from Pure Vessel, and get slashed in half

[bleak lark]

me too it has more sauce

[upbeat pilot]

||somehow what happens in act 3 is the best case scenario 😭||

[tacit sentinel]

Well well well. Detail be damned

[hollow forum]

Literally slow motion

[polar stag]

Team Cherry pulling a trick on us by not giving Sherma the Myla treatment

[graceful cairn]

ive become so reliant on these lmao

[digital pilot]

I'm glad for that honestly

[mental pebble]

it actually has a wider range than hk pogo if you use it right

[devout birch]

If hallownest was a dead/fallen kingdom, and pharloom a kingdom that was about to fall
will we visit a kingdom in its glory if there was a third hollow knight game

[hollow forum]

Team Cherry knows there would be riots

[hollow forum]

I think Pharloom is pretty fallen honestly

[graceful cairn]

i love how sherma becomes the new caretaker of songclave in act 3

[upbeat pilot]

im telling you he's secretly immortal. Some demigod designed as a normal bug or sum 😭

[polar stag]

Instead Sherma's tragic arc is one of disillusionment

[meager elm]

I am wondering what will pharloom government be post true ending when ||Sherma is heavily implied to be taking over the citadel||
Will it be another theocracy, or will she decide to just make it bug democracy

[digital pilot]

Poor thing

[manic tree]

Pharloom wasn't about to fall it already had

[brittle elbow]

yea even team cherry won't be safe

[mental pebble]

I wonder if the next game will be about lace

[bleak lark]

you dont really need any other yellow tools by lategame so theres no reason to take them out except for bossfights maybe

[digital pilot]

Well to be fair, Pharloom was in far better shape than Hallownest was

[tacit sentinel]

I mean you don't have to kill Myla. Just don't get cdash or kill soul master

[upbeat pilot]

just dont play the game fr

[orchid heath]

Is there going to be an update where you can replay bosses like hk?

[manic tree]

Because everyone is still mindlessly doing their jobs, and pilgrims are still coming because they love their religion that much

[graceful cairn]

my build for boss fights is typically the silk speed anklets, dice, and the steel soul exclusive tool lol

[hollow forum]

Hallownest seems like a much better place to live in it's prime, Pharloom is an industrialist capitalist hellhole

[tacit sentinel]

The Citadel was a complete wasteland. Pilgrims travelling to the citadel never returned to speak of what they saw

[mental pebble]

prob after they add other updates first

[meager elm]

The pale king didn't pay his workers slave wage and he tried to implement public tram transit for his people at least

[dense sierra]

can anyone help me figure out how in the world to get down here?

[mental pebble]

its endgame stuff

[orchid heath]

gotcha thanks, been wanting to replay a few bosses

[zealous stirrup]

act III

[empty tendon]

bro sherma played a much bigger role than myla, all myla does is stand in one spot, she has no impact on the lore other than showing the progression of the infection

[dense sierra]

ohhhhhhh ty

[digital pilot]

Yea, while in the prime, yea, Hallownest was probably better, though in present, Pharloom has a bit more life

[bleak lark]

you cant just keep playing elsewhere

[tacit sentinel]

In Hallownest, we at least have areas like Deepnest, Mantis Village and Hive that aren't infected

[patent jacinth]

guys am i the only one who finds bilewater gauntlet harder then high halls

[mental pebble]

it is

[upbeat pilot]

yeah remember they had like 3 dlc updates before the godmaster one, hk came out in like 2017 but it took until 2020 for the boss rush stuff to be added

[tacit sentinel]

Don't you dare speak ill of Myla

[digital pilot]

Hallownest was infected by the Radiance, who turned everybody into zombie slaves. Grandma Silk has possessed alot of people, but there are alot more pockets of life in Pharloom than Hallownest

[empty tendon]

i said nothing but fact, none of it was ill

[graceful cairn]

pharloom also has a better shot at coming back imo

[tacit sentinel]

It's not harder but it is more tedious

[polar stag]

I think the thing that ||saddened me most about Act 3 was the destruction of Bonebottom||. When I took the Bellway there and walked out I was not prepared for what I saw. ||So many bodies||.

[devout birch]

pharloom in act 3 became more like hallownest until act 2 it was way better than current hallownest

[tacit sentinel]

My girl is very vital to the game

[silk totem]

menderbug </3

[arctic cairn]

cuz it's older hornet instead of little silly knight

[mental pebble]

I think ss might be faster tho b/c i think a lot of the updates are already partly made

[polar stag]

||At least he makes it||

[runic bane]

is there any way to check what spool fragments/mask shards i’m missing?

[silk totem]

wait is he somewhere

[tacit sentinel]

||Seeing Zaza by Garmonds corspe shattered me||

[digital pilot]

Yea. For sure. After the Radiance died, Hallownest mostly crumbled, because it was already dead, there are very little people from Hallownest that live in it.

[arctic cairn]

what exactly do you mean? How many or what location

[upbeat pilot]

I would NOT count on it after what Silksong has been through. Team Cherry is gonna take their sweet time and that's fine by me lol.

[polar stag]

||there's a survivor camp in The Marrow where the Flea Caravan use to be||

[silk totem]

OH checking that rn

[mental pebble]

fr

[empty tendon]

i just saw the ||red memory|| segment, holy peak ||baby hornet is so cute oml||

[runic bane]

locations, you can check how many in steam achievements

[mental pebble]

fax

[tacit sentinel]

Best cutscene in the game by far

[deft thistle]

twin why the fuck am i fighting ghosts

[arctic cairn]

well I suppose you can open up a map online, but you gotta remember which ones you've gotten

[runic bane]

or atleast I can it might be a little more difficult for console

[digital pilot]

Pharloom can raise again as a nation, but Hallownest is long, long dead and there's no amount of magic that can bring the Pale King back to life to band everyone together

[empty tendon]

because amgy

[runic bane]

there’s the issue i wasn’t keeping track

feelspk isn’t in top emoji wow

[polar stag]

I remember when Pilby said that ||Bonebottom would always be there. It's so sad that he was wrong||.

[native canyon]

(act 3 spoilers) ||gms screaming while I'm trying to juggle fleas or fight a boss like JESUS CHRIST I'LL GET TO YOU WHEN I GET TO YOU||

[harsh mica]

das not good

[arctic cairn]

:c then you gotta go to every one of the places loll..

[mortal bluff]

Question. Does Seth Goldman voice shrine guardian Seth?

[native canyon]

no

[empty tendon]

fr

[arctic cairn]

it's not good indeed

[south vigil]

should probably mark this as spoiler

[delicate wadi]

Yah hallownest is pretty fricken dedge

[harsh mica]

no

[tacit sentinel]

"bitch you're gonna have to wait, I'm busy enjoying my weekend at the carnival"

[runic bane]

i remember a few but not all so that helps a bit i guess

[empty tendon]

yes

[fresh wing]

Why tf does ||first sinner|| have a second phase?????

[polar stag]

Bonebottom is why I ||can never forgive the Snail Shamans||.

[digital pilot]

In act three, when you go to collect the hearts. You play the song and enter this weird space. I know it has no dream catcher effects, but is it a Dream World?

[south vigil]

cause it’s better that way

[meager elm]

||Sherma|| is the remaining leading figure, no?
I think the ||snail shamans|| died after the memory segment.
All the rest are unpopulated filled with silk-haunted that presumable fall dead after ending

[fresh wing]

She's too damn fast

[empty tendon]

bro ||shes the first sinner, u think she'd be easy?||

[runic bane]

because based fight

[south vigil]

it’s a memory

[native canyon]

making me lose out on such an incredible song those bitches deserve everything that's coming for them

[digital pilot]

Yea, but that would make it a Dream World no?

[south vigil]

it’s different, not entirely sure how

[graceful cairn]

*big text saying red memory*
"hmm i wonder what this is"

[gleaming sonnet]

i cant get past the high halls gauntlet is ti just a skil lissue or smt. what crest should i use and what tools

[native canyon]

obviously it's a dream silly

[fresh wing]

But tbf she's wayyy too helpful in learning how to use ||cross stitch|| properly

[hollow forum]

I think floor traps are handy for the big guys

[empty tendon]

welp theres a bug sometimes where bonebottom theme plays when you sit at a bench, idk the specifics but its happened a couple times

[native canyon]

do you have the double jump?

[polar stag]

bruh my ps5 controller keeps shaking because ||the Bell Beast and her babies|| are making it vibrate.

[native canyon]

bugs in my hollow knight game? say it ain't so...

[tough quiver]

Probably , but if there’s a way to play the game i enjoy , I’ll play like that

[gleaming sonnet]

you cant get to the gauntlet w/o double jump i think

[native canyon]

they want pets :(

[tacit sentinel]

I found her surprisingly easy. It took me longer to beat ||phantom|| on my speedrunner safefile than first playthrough ||first sinner||

[digital pilot]

I feel like it would just make sense to make it a Dream world that's entered defintently, rather than make it something unique. Use what's already established. Just makes more sense to me in a narrative way

[harsh mica]

what

[delicate wadi]

Where do you get the map in citadel? I've gotten all the way to ||songclave|| and beaten ||cogwork dancers|| and I still don't know where the fricken map is.

[native canyon]

you can, but that answer's a good indicator

[noble jolt]

get help from npcs

[gleaming sonnet]

alr

[graceful cairn]

restart ig

[noble jolt]

the void won 💀

[hollow forum]

It's near the beginning I think, it's in a capsule machine type thing

[gleaming sonnet]

like the dude who helps u with the big fly right

[silk totem]

omg thank you i beat the whole game and assume he was fucking dead

[shut osprey]

true ending

[empty tendon]

well im bad at games, this clip says so

[gleaming sonnet]

what crest do you guys recommend?

[noble jolt]

ye, and also shakra (is possible)

[graceful cairn]

HUNTERS CREST

[runic bane]

wait how does one get into act 3

[native canyon]

there's a room in the high halls where it looks like there's nothing but there's a little trolley that you can push to one end and double jump to a secret to remove clawmaidens (the weird spider things) from the game

[empty tendon]

depends on what ur doin

[polar stag]

||the only time its acceptable to smack around a mother and her children. I think canonically hitting Bell Beast is petting her.||

[runic bane]

what are the requirements

[jaunty onyx]

Fun fact: taunting will also call the bell beast

[hollow forum]

Shaman was my favourite, but I used reaper until I got it

[native canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-bell-beast-hornet-i-fucking-love-my-dog-gif-16253163473145257201

[sinful lagoon]

lmk if you end up managing it alr? I wanna hear 🙏

[deft thistle]

Are you suffering? is the game hard? use wanderers crest. Otherwise literally anything but beast

[empty tendon]

so does playing the needolin

[tacit sentinel]

Games journalist/10

[gleaming sonnet]

i dont like wanderers crest at all

[arctic cairn]

try it all out, architect, witch are very good, upgrade hunter and wanderer too,

[graceful cairn]

DONT USE WANDERERS ITS A CULT

[hollow forum]

Find most of the fleas, do most of the town quests, do the Caretaker's quest

[south vigil]

i’m prolly gonna end up live streaming it, but yeah i’ll ping you if it works out