sk-discussion

[sleek prawn]

Yea it actually makes a lot more sense once you've done it

[hoary mica]

i have a friend who played hollow knight only a month before silksong, he tells me both hk and gms took him a similar amount of attempts (and as far as i can see from youtube and stuff, that seems to be the case for most people)

[unborn garden]

Late game spoiler ||in act 3 after everything changes how do you get tools that vendors like the guy in hunters march sells since he dies and there's nothing around that you can pick up and i need the tools to 100% the game||

[rugged niche]

Try to find hornet

[devout wing]

honestly i didn't even mean for the speed complition but the time is really linient

[earnest moat]

easily one of the easiest bosses in the game

[earnest cliff]

rudolph

[burnt patrol]

that's true
3 blue tools is insane

[hoary mica]

green prince is the gayest character in fiction

[hushed juniper]

Silksong hooked me a lot more than HK ever did

[meager thistle]

he got a buff? i mean i rebeat him like a week before silksong released idk if that's when he was buffed

[median grove]

did you guys 100% the game and if so how long did it take

[elfin totem]

yea imo yellow tools are useless
except compass i would die without it

[thin horizon]

One last map to buy

[restive rivet]

Grindle

[hoary mica]

||his stuff should be lying around in hunters march iirc||

[halcyon charm]

hold on how did they open the path to grand mother silk

[prime tundra]

I don't get why people find it so difficult, if you're stuggling that bad use the flintslate thing to give you a bit more time before you take damage

[cold ravine]

BILEWATER IS A HUMAN EXPERIMENT

[meager thistle]

gms took me one attempt that's why i was kinda concerned on the difficulty

[unborn garden]

Did bro skip the part of it saying spoiler

[half arrow]

Their tools usually are scattered around the area

[hushed juniper]

Not being allowed to die would drive me insane

[burnt patrol]

thank god for vesticrest

[hoary mica]

bro it literally says "late game spoiler"

[devout wing]

is the witch crest really the best? i can't manage to play it well tbh

[earnest moat]

he didn't use to have double damage, there was also something else that I don't remember

[spiral pasture]

26 hou

[unborn garden]

Like where he died or around like the entire hunters march?

[elfin totem]

witches crest 4 blue slots and 2 red and 1 yellow its actually iunsane bro

[atomic quest]

Can someone tell me what area I’m supposed to get the equivalent to monarch wings?

[deep moon]

That’s why they had us off him💔

[hardy crow]

didnt know it was a thing

[devout wing]

it was like my 4th oe 3th attampt it was awful lol but fun

[hushed juniper]

Mt fay

[unborn garden]

-100 rage bait

[half arrow]

Where he died

[elfin totem]

mount fay left of slab bellway

[sleek prawn]

First one took me 45h
Speedrun took me 16h

[hazy parcel]

where do i get the crestnut

[meager thistle]

i'm in act 3 but haven't finished the game yet

only thing i prefer over silksong so far is bosses cause i just found them more fun, but thats just my opinion

[hushed juniper]

How do you even avoid dying? The game is so punishing

[harsh sorrel]

erm

[burnt patrol]

i still won't use it though
i'm too used to hunter for fighting

[brave maple]

FUCK ||LOST LACE|| BRO I JUST FOUGHT HER FOR 8 MINUTES AND SHE DIDNT DIE AND I GOT SHITTY HITBOXED BY HER 3 ATTACK SLICE

[prime tundra]

neither did I until I decided to see why people have a problem wit it lol

[spiral pasture]

sands of karak

[umbral pivot]

how do you get the sylphsong?

[halcyon charm]

57h

[atomic quest]

How do o get to bellway? I’ve been stuck for a couple hours

[peak vapor]

Its in ||Sands of Karak||

[unborn garden]

uh idk if i did something wrong then cuz there wasn't any tools around him

[elfin totem]

those r nothing compared to FOUR BLUE SLOTS

[median grove]

@spiral pasture wow! first playthrough?

[hardy crow]

i sometimes destroy the heat lamp with my harpoon

[fossil sandal]

ss improved over hk in a decent chunk of aspects
just doesn't feel the same for me though

[meager thistle]

oh i definitely beat him post-buff then

[elfin totem]

thats fair the pogo is hard to get used to if ur using hunters for a while

[spiral pasture]

no i got the corrupted witch softlock and started from scratch

[mortal lichen]

clover dancers fortunately turned out to be kind of easy despite the long runback, not really sure if it was a good thing to do though

[hoary mica]

i think honestly you just got lucky or were overprepared because i havent seen really anybody beating it in 1 attempt online

[covert gyro]

WHAT THE HELLY

[median grove]

I am on my 80th hour and just go to lost lace, is that bad pace

[sleek prawn]

Is that still not fixed?

[deep moon]

Slight flex

[half arrow]

You can only get 2 Items in Hunter's March from Vendor
Boomerang and Fractured Mask

[harsh sorrel]

ew stonetoss

[spiral pasture]

its fixed, i just played from day 1

[meager thistle]

maybe overprepared, i had 3 nail upgrades at the time and i assume most people who beat her at that point maybe didn't

[crystal ledge]

how do i get to these passages i cant seem to hit the lever and get back fast enough

[median grove]

@deep moon that cant be a first playthrough

[mortal lichen]

I never realised killing the green prince in his dream would also kill him in real life

[sleek prawn]

Yea fair, just checking

[restive rivet]

Tfw steel soul ended to a giant rat

[elfin totem]

yo curvesickle is so underrated its actually fucking overpowered holy shit its the best

[hoary mica]

i havent even 100% yet, only true ending and i have 48 hours

[halcyon charm]

You don’t do it that way

[harsh sorrel]

stonetoss is a horrible human being get that comic out of here

[prime tundra]

I just chased him down whole fight and beat it in like 40 seconds

[spiral pasture]

be an asshole

[crystal ledge]

then how do i do iut

[half arrow]

Just explore the citadel

[hoary mica]

yessssssss

[deep moon]

Nope my first was ~40

[crystal ledge]

okay

[unborn garden]

Think i have 1 of them. Might be something i missed gonna have to go back there tomorrow and check

[sleek prawn]

Go do the other endings for her, most ppl I've seen complain abt the same things as you understood why she is what she is after that

[elfin totem]

its so peak bro with poison even better

[mortal lichen]

I played quite carefully, only allowing myself one nail hit between attacks because they were attacking pretty fast

[peak vapor]

So…

Whats is everyone’s personal top 3 saddest moments in this game??

[hoary mica]

carried me through ||coral tower||

[spiral pasture]

doomed yaoi

[glossy wind]

I FINALLY FUCKING GOT ALL THE SPOOL FRAGMENTS AND I HAD TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE MAP TO SEE WHAT I MISSED TURNS OUT IT WAS IN BONE BOTTOM

[bleak token]

butterfly

[elfin totem]

that one part where sherma gets brutally killed infront of you while ur being tortured

[halcyon charm]

I keep forgetting the names of most of the citadel maps but it’s something about cogworks
There’s a path that leads that way

[heady rampart]

||does tru silkshot have infinite range|| act 2 upgraded weapon soiler

[unborn garden]

Cogwork dancers 💔

[harsh sorrel]

he lives on engagement so he will do literally anything to be viral with actually 0 limits
mocking suicide for example (milked 5+ comics out of a suicide)

[sleek prawn]

My first one ended cos i didnt peek down and jumped into an enemy and straight into lava for -3

[glacial kelp]

no zote

[safe wigeon]

Wisp thicket area is strikingly similar to grimm troupe

[prime tundra]

fair, I just remembered how the attacks worked from cogwork dancers

[earnest moat]

when I lost my 100% steel soul file to a random mob while I was showing my friend something

[median grove]

What am I doing wrong 😢
I didnt 100% the game and I am on hour 80

[heady rampart]

you will unlock those later on dont worry

[hoary mica]

#1 ||green prince||
#2 ||cogwork dancers phase 4||
#3 ||garmond death|| (MAJOR ACT 3 SPOILERS DO NOT CLICK)

[deep moon]

Flick dying from the skull tyrant attack made me wanna cry bro

[meager thistle]

eh me having a skill issue is what brings silksong down for me ngl, the areas are infuriating but fair, i just suck but it's still frustrating sometimes and im kinda just hopping off the game for awhile

[hollow void]

yes

[worldly umbra]

@peak vapor every single time you talk to eva

[elfin totem]

the literal only thing similar is fire bro 😭

[halcyon charm]

Bro that’s such a pain

[prime tundra]

the enemies there are quite annoying

[hoary mica]

there is nothing wrong with that bro keep pushing you got this in the bag

[restive rivet]

Oh god that's painful. I better just save and quit at 3hp instead around that area

[wet yoke]

What's even the way to kill Sister Splinter?

[earnest moat]

I had gotten the achievement so... at least that

[hoary mica]

.... hit her?

[median grove]

is it bad that karmelita took me 30 tries

[restive rivet]

You hit her and avoid getting hit

[elfin totem]

swing back

[sleek prawn]

Yea true, I just thought i was safe above 2hp

[glacial kelp]

youre not supposed to one shot it tbf
i still found some areas hard on the rerun

[halcyon charm]

Idk but I just skipped the boss on the speedrun

[safe wigeon]

Yea that and the boss face thingy also

[prime tundra]

you have to beat the final boss with 100% for the achievement

[heady rampart]

up slash everything, her minions cant attack down so just do that

[median grove]

@hoary mica thanks bro

[desert grotto]

So uh, how do you heal with the ||Witch Crest||?

[hoary mica]

not at all she is undisputedly top 2 hardest bosses in the game and in many people's opinions the hardest in the game

[halcyon charm]

Simple. You don’t

[spice imp]

I just got widow to 7 health, missed a threefold pin, and died

[glacial kelp]

hit enemy with tenty

[wet yoke]

How? She's being a pain in the ass

[earnest moat]

hit the mobs with the vines

[median grove]

ah ok

[restive rivet]

Hopefully not too many hrs lost? I lost 2

[elfin totem]

nuke them with ur bind

[meager thistle]

i can understand the whole cursed ending thing but she still should've had more to the fight in general, it's not that her attacks were too easy, it's that she felt like she didn't have enough of them

but then again she isn't even the final boss of the game so idk, that's just how i felt ig

[spice imp]

I was so close

[worldly umbra]

i love the wanderers crest needle art so much i might make it my main crest

[unborn garden]

Lowkey still sad about 3rd one (he reminds me of sir roland from brawlhalla)

[hoary mica]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-lebron-los-angeles-lakers-lakers-dunk-gif-16216227

[tranquil wigeon]

No.

[heady rampart]

every hit the tentacles get heals 1 mask, only 3 if no multibinder tho

[hoary mica]

this gonna be you when you hit 100%

[deep moon]

“comparison is the thief of joy” just play at your own pace and enjoy the experience mate it’s not a competition

[tranquil wigeon]

Karmelita is probably one of the fastest bosses on Hollow Knight

[peak vapor]

For me these are my top 3 saddest:

1: ||Lost Garmond||

2: ||Doomed Yaoi lovers||

3: ||Conductor’s singing his melody||

[harsh sorrel]

oh this is gonna be so fun

[brave maple]

I genuinely do not think shes hard at all shes the most readable of the 5 act 3 main bosses except for ||khann||

[glacial kelp]

48 hour implies hes gonna spin with the earth

[sleek prawn]

Yea about 2-3 iirc, but yea m over it already since it was a while back, good life lesson to never get overconfident ig haha

[desert grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-mobs-zombie-skeleton-creeper-gif-22789285

[hoary mica]

he has the greatest voice acting in the game i absolutely love his battle cry for moorwing

[halcyon charm]

You can lure an enemy with the “challenge” button and pogo onto it to get the wall climbing before defeating sister splinter

[south vigil]

thank you, team cherry.

[meager thistle]

i'm not expecting to one attempt each area but i'm also not expecting to spend 6 hours in an area

but it probably is just a skill issue

[desert grotto]

Oh okay

[tranquil wigeon]

Seth is also one of the fastest bosses istg

[fossil sandal]

most encounters in this game weren't "wow this was fun i would've loved to experience this again" it was more so "thank god this is over and i don't have to do it again"
makes me wish this game had a godhome to play the bosses i genuinely liked without having to go through some awful sections of the game but for the most part it goes from fine to great

hk provoked lots of emotions compared to silksong for me and i find it hard to prefer the latter over the former

[spice imp]

Doomed yaoi

[elfin totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1335712714592358541/1406759224825872444/monkey-monkey-thinking.gif

[glacial kelp]

shit

[cobalt bronze]

but what a thing, bilewater is hell

[hoary mica]

really? i found the others to be considerably easier by quite a large margin

[hard depot]

chat what do i do if i got 2 silk upgrades but my silk still looks like this

[median grove]

@south vigil congrats

[unborn garden]

Is every spool frag 9% completion? thought it'd be less ngl

[glacial kelp]

this just you gang idk what to say

[halcyon charm]

Wdym

[atomic quest]

What area would you say is after hunters march?

[burnt patrol]

ohhh speaking of conductor's melody
it reminded me of 'elegy for the rings' from outer wilds
it shares the exact same 5 starting notes

[mortal lichen]

Add ||lost verdania|| to the list. I want ||whoever made that wonderful place disappear|| dead.

[median grove]

you need to kill your coocon

[spiral pasture]

your cocoon is somewhere isnt it

[meager thistle]

that's.. why i said it's probably a skill issue

[heady rampart]

it only applies once you get your cocoon, with no cocoon its just base silk

[uneven lily]

||My friend told me theres a special feather if you beat a certain boss, can i buy the normal feather and then get the other one or do i have to not buy the quill to get the purple one||

[restive rivet]

Get your cocoon back

[harsh sorrel]

hk was only 3 cuz there was only 3 extenders to the soul meter but here its 9

[halcyon charm]

Far fields

[mortal lichen]

Also, ||bone bottom being completely obliterated in act 3||

[hard depot]

i see

[deep moon]

You can’t buy the normal quill

[atomic quest]

And what would be after that?

[glacial kelp]

didnt realize it was that bad the baseline for this ch is pretty high…

[halcyon charm]

Greymoor

[elfin totem]

they r all in the marrow btw

[brave maple]

well ||lost lace|| is way harder but ||khann is literally only hard cause of his area, clover dancers are trivial considering you already have the experience and nyleth i found quite difficult until i got her hitbox down for phase 2. for karmelita was the easiest time except for clover dancers.||

[peak vapor]

||specifically the clover dance fight, because he is desperately trying to remember how his lover looked, acted, and felt. It was depressing||

[median grove]

where do you buy the quill

[uneven lily]

so i gotta not buy it to get the special quill:

[atomic quest]

Alr last thing how do I get there?

[serene arrow]

So what am I missing and where do I find it?

[elfin totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280804846546456599/1397041625410175056/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_8.gif

[glacial kelp]

sharka

[mossy haven]

Question for everyone, after which boss fight did you go "Wow, I want to play that again"? For me, it was ||First sinner||, such a fun fight

[hoary mica]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-2773712783314774774

[brave maple]

last judge took me... 6 or 7 tries 😅

[deep moon]

yep

[restive rivet]

You should not get shakras quill. If you want red, get it in trobbios back room. If you want purple, don't get red and wait for tormented trobbio

[median grove]

I mean the red one @glacial kelp

[meager thistle]

idk i'm just not good at arenas

[hoary mica]

||first sinner, karmelita, lost lace, widow||

[unborn garden]

oh wait it makes sense 2 spool frags is 1% and there's 18 spool frags if remember correctly

[halcyon charm]

Well first you need the cloak float thingy which you need the dash for

[glacial kelp]

this is from trobbio

[atomic quest]

Have that

[deep moon]

Mocking political assassinations is so cool!!!

[median grove]

tormented

[earnest moat]

Nah, relax. They definetly went a bit overboard with high halls and the coral tower

[elfin totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1197656501465124905/1289705665857585305/bounce.gif

[supple parrot]

the quill becomes purple the moment you enter ||act 3|| you don't have to wait until fighting him

[halcyon charm]

Ok those orange blobs you destroyed to get the cloak, keep ascending and you’ll find more and you will eventually reach greymoor

[elfin totem]

wait what wym

[halcyon charm]

(I suck at explaining with words, it’s easier with pictures)

[brave maple]

||lost lace|| is definitely the hardest thing in the game except for ||nameless town climb which to be honest is easier i just wanted to put a platforming section|| and ||early game savage beastfly 😔||

[hoary mica]

what difference does it make?

[elfin totem]

oh thats charlie kirk im dumb

[atomic quest]

I have been looking for hours and haven’t been able to find anything

[mortal lichen]

Is it just me or are ||the arenas harder than the bosses || in act 3?

[silver nacelle]

I know you don't have the slinger from bilewater. You also don't have the curveclaw (gets evolved into curvesickle). I don't remember the other trap.

As for blue, you're missing the cracked mask, druid eye evolution and I forgot the other missing one.

[restive rivet]

Nothing

[meager thistle]

i just find it odd that the bosses are easier than the arenas

i feel like it should be the other way around but maybe im just an idiot

[glacial kelp]

i think thats kirk but id avoid speaking about it here

[jagged patio]

true!!!

[halcyon charm]

Nah that’s so real 🥀

[heady rampart]

what are you on abt?? double moss mother was like, the biggest challenge in this game

[median grove]

fr lol

[halcyon charm]

Idk where you have looked so I can’t help you there

[mortal lichen]

Act 3 so far has felt like ||replaying act 1 but I have 4 masks instead of 5||

[teal kindle]

ok so i started a steel soul run
and i got swiftstep, beat lace, went back for wanderers crest, BUT I TOOK A WRONG TURN IN WORMWAYS AND ENDED UP IN SHELLWOOD????
AND NOW I'M AT BELLHART LESS THAN AN HOUR IN???

[brave maple]

you say this as a joke but double moss mother took me like fifth most tries out of any boss (like 10)

[atomic quest]

Go to dm

[elfin totem]

i beat that shit first try how was it hard bro

[fiery zinc]

how much is the range increase from the longclaw tool? i tried it on every crest and didnt notice any difference in range on any of them

[glacial kelp]

how did you get to wormways without key lowk

[deep moon]

Sorry for misunderstanding. I didn’t agree with a lot of what he said but I think it’s terrible what happened. Glad we’re on the same page sry again

[restive rivet]

100% but it's too sensitive a topic to bring up in ss-discussion

[heady rampart]

yeah i was well into act 2 before i realized double moss mother was a thing

[brave maple]

i had more tries on that shit than KARMELITA

[earnest moat]

I think the arenas are more prone to memorization. Colosseum 3 took quite a while when I first did it, I can do it really easily now, same with the coral tower

[paper galleon]

why the fuck is broodmother so annoying bro

[wet yoke]

Right, I'm trying that but it's a little tricky to get

[teal kindle]

i got 500 rosaries in deep docks for the key in bone bottom

[desert grotto]

You mean the tentacles that appear after binding, right?

[tidal creek]

I platinumed the game on ps4..... NOW ITS TIME TO GET EVERYTHING ON PC, LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[elfin totem]

what the fuck is this shit tier list bro

[halcyon charm]

Yeah don’t worry it was difficult for me too

[silver nacelle]

Why is pale nails so low???

[glacial kelp]

pretty valid but also not nuanced at all

[meager thistle]

this tier list is ass and i haven't even got all the skills

[brave maple]

pale nails is so finnicky

[heady rampart]

yup, just use them near a enemy and it should heal you

[unborn garden]

||Parry my beloved||

[teal kindle]

cross stitch at #3 is insane
AND WHAT IS THIS SHARPDART SLANDER

[elfin totem]

sharpdart pale nails rune rage r my favs

[desert grotto]

dang this crest stinks lol

[meager thistle]

iframes on hit apparently is bad to them

[silver nacelle]

Pale nails is a homing attack that locks onto a close enough target.

[undone plume]

Only right placement is silk storm ts shit fryin me

[mortal lichen]

I'd say that cross stitch should be on the same teir as silk spear and you should add a few more tiers just so you can move rune rage lower

[elfin totem]

rune rage always hits for somereason and i found some boss cheeses to use with it aswell

[glacial kelp]

this take is pretty ass actually

[heady rampart]

yeah witch isnt THAT good imo

[meager thistle]

bro can't even have an opinion wtf 😭

[elfin totem]

rune rage is fucking S tier

[hoary mica]

with trobbio mirrors and multibinder you turn into a nuke

[brave maple]

Im going to make my engagement bait boss tier list now that ive fought all 45 (not counting ||summoned saviour||)

[meager thistle]

what does rune rage do i haven't gotten all the skills

[glacial kelp]

i am also allowed to have one that is against theirs man

[elfin totem]

pure vessel exploding nukes

[silver nacelle]

Unless you get used to it and add in clawmirrors with injector bands and heal extender.

Turns the bind into maximum damage.

[unborn garden]

Better

[meager thistle]

honestly fair point 🤔

[halcyon charm]

There’s 45?

[glacial kelp]

now THIS is real

[earnest moat]

I'd consider parry/spear to be the best ones, everything else besides rune rage is situational

[halcyon charm]

Felt like more than that

[meager thistle]

that would be helpful as fuck for me against those flying enemies

[elfin totem]

with mirrors it does unbelievably high dmg

[undone plume]

Gauntlet merchant skill

[glacial kelp]

speedrunner bias but i feel that

[elfin totem]

yea its so good with gauntlets and a few bosses too

[desert grotto]

Yeah I guess it probably is a good speedrunner crest or something

[heavy forum]

WOOO finally got the final silk skill

[unborn garden]

Honestly threadstorm if you're like new to silksong since it was really easy to use and gives you a lot of free damage imo

[elfin totem]

and also you can mash threadstorm

[glacial kelp]

2 thread storms does more for the same silk i believe

[silver nacelle]

It also has 3 blue slots which gives you a lot of versatility and options.

[undone plume]

Calling silk storm situational is definitely an opinion

[unborn garden]

Lowkey best one yet

[silver nacelle]

So true.

[elfin totem]

witches is 10x better then hunters

[glacial kelp]

thread storm is the highest single hit in the entire game

[sharp sun]

True and Architectpilled

[umbral pivot]

the saddest moment is def || lost garmond || wtf

[earnest moat]

I think thread storm should only be considered as good as the 2 I've said, if you're using shaman

[meager thistle]

i suck ass with thread storm i haven't really found a skill that i'd actually use in a fight over keeping my silk to heal

[heavy forum]

absolutely

[elfin totem]

Does anyone know how crawbell works i wanna find exploits or glitches or find how it works

[glacial kelp]

doesnt this mean that all of them are ass lmao

[earnest moat]

it is, most of the time you can do fine with the spear

[sharp sun]

Killing off a beloved side character due to the local infection is TCs watermark

[unborn garden]

Damn even more then i thought i mean i knew it did a lot of damage but highest damage is insane

[desert grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

[clear spoke]

Ok, let me tell you, it turns out that, apparently, in this game, when an enemy or boss hits you, you lose masks, which is like the life of the game, and when you get hit enough times, you die, I know, it's strange

[heavy forum]

lol definitely not, it just means they don’t know how to use ‘em

[silver nacelle]

If you want money that bad, just edit your save file for more money.

[desert grotto]

true true

[glacial kelp]

by THEIR standard man

[elfin totem]

no like deadass i dont know how it works im confused bro

[meager thistle]

no because i haven't unlocked every skill lol

[heavy forum]

oh valid

[silver nacelle]

You take your save file to a website and edit the Geo entry in the save file. (Yes, rosaries are called Geo in the save files)

[glacial kelp]

i think second is like flintslate arch charged attack ?

[elfin totem]

no im talkiong about crawbell im confused about how it works i dont care about rosary

[sturdy hull]

I'd love to learn how crawbell works too. Something it pays out hundreds, sometimes a few dozen.

[fresh thunder]

bruht theyee just askjng jow the mechanic works

[shut marlin]

Where is lifeblood syringe

[unborn garden]

Personally i never used shaman since for my first playthrough i went with wanderers crest and then hunters later on with threadstorm then switched to parry

[hoary mica]

can anyone with really high flea minigame scores show me how high you were able to get

[silver nacelle]

Okeh.

[sharp sun]

[elfin totem]

yea its so cool like randomly i get 200 rosary

[undone plume]

Wdym

[earnest moat]

shaman adds x 0.5 of the needle damage per hit, thread storm does the most hits

[heavy forum]

you wait for a bit and it collects some rosaries and bone bits. honestly not even a small amount either, i haven’t really run out of bone shards since i got it

[undone plume]

Like yeah of course you can do fine with just silk spear but that doesn't mean it's better

[shell harbor]

Is 100% the max in silksong? if yes i'm done.

[heavy forum]

y’all where do i find shaman

[silver nacelle]

Shaman has one good build and I love it.

[glacial kelp]

you can still try it on LL right now!

[earnest moat]

exactly what I said, most of the time you can do fine with silk spear, thread storm is situational

[elfin totem]

yea same ever since ive gotten it im always at 800 also does it work if ur afk and does it stack or do u have to collect it the moment it comes in to get a new deposit

[unborn garden]

Honestly i had no idea flintslate was that good until i already completed the true ending but i can deff say it'll be going on my tool slots in my next casual playthrough

[silver nacelle]

Ruined chapel in act 3. You'll need silk soar.

[shut marlin]

Where do you find lifeblood syringe

[sturdy hull]

Yes, but there's collectables that don't count

[shut marlin]

Can’t find an answer off of Google can someone help?????

[silver nacelle]

Worm ways beyond simple key door.

[elfin totem]

its called plasmium phial i think ull find answers if u call it that

[fresh thunder]

thats cause it isnt called lifeblood in the game, look up plasmium

[glacial kelp]

thats from a quest

[flint dust]

im missing 2 lights in verdania but i can fight the dancers with the green prince? What happens when u conplete all the lights?

[umbral pivot]

all of the lights

[fresh thunder]

extra lore

[heavy forum]

yeah that makes sense honestly. for some reason i thought of checking the hermit’s cave before the ruined chapel, which is kinda my bad

[glacial kelp]

what are you doing bluggy head to off topic or smthn

[elfin totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1197656501465124905/1289705665857585305/bounce.gif

[flint dust]

not even lik an entry or smt

[unborn garden]

Oh Damn in that case it makes a lot of sense

[undone plume]

I don't see how silk spear just being able to do the job makes it better than storm

[silver nacelle]

Lol.

[brave maple]

yes

[fresh thunder]

no just a lore tablet

[flint dust]

Oh ok ty

[glacial kelp]

oh just curious is shaman pale nails 4.5x

[earnest moat]

easier to use, less recovery time

[earnest moat]

I don't know

[unborn garden]

I've been playing Fully blind up until now so there's a lot of buffs like that i have no idea about.

[brave maple]

how do you spoiler imahes

[glacial kelp]

well shit

[earnest moat]

also don't have to be close to the target

[green dagger]

How I go there? I have to do it for a secret ending, but I cant. I already did all the parkour before, is it locked forever now?

[worldly umbra]

all the bosses are so good but this is my personal act 1 bosses tier list

[glacial kelp]

nope silk soar whee the dust is

[lyric grove]

threadstorm deals noticeably the most damage of all silk skills and it is not close

[silver nacelle]

Idk, but it does a lot of damage regardless.

It supposedly does the same amount as spear and dash.

[fresh thunder]

silk soar where theres actual stuff / dust crumbling

[glacial kelp]

i think you dont know how to make tier lists

[halcyon charm]

have you went to the ||abyss|| yet?

[green dagger]

Ye ye

[halcyon charm]

use the skill you got from there

[green dagger]

I even killed final Act 3 boss and that

[burnt patrol]

then silk soar

[unreal veldt]

Garmond & Zaza
Journal Entry i have been trying to get him to spawn for the past 3 hours wtf am i supposed to do

[brave maple]

oh well im just gonna send the tier list with no spoiler tag it aint against the rules

[worldly umbra]

@glacial kelpranking

[elfin totem]

why doeis no one talk about crawbell its literally like so good holy shit

[green dagger]

Oh I was doing it on other place Xd

[silver nacelle]

Why does Zylotol sound like the name of medicine.

[glacial kelp]

baseline its the same as spear but theoretically it should scale better with shaman

[undone plume]

I disagree but i see the vision,ig it's just a preference thing lol

[unborn garden]

Go back a bit to where you see a bunch of dust comming down and then do the silk soar dash straight up

[earnest moat]

bro why people say Karmelite with a "c"?

[empty salmon]

Is upper part of SoKarak act 3 exclusive?

[molten cobalt]

WOAH I'M ABOUT TO FIGHT CARMELLITA

[brave maple]

yes im glazing most of those bosses in masterpiece but idc

[hoary mica]

cragglers not a boss

[rotund nymph]

guys i need some good key binds on keyboard

[glacial kelp]

no..?

[molten cobalt]

any tips before i get molested?

[fresh thunder]

people dont get to ths point before they reach their limit w the rosary economy and start grinding lmfao

[brave maple]

i couldnt tell ya

[heady rampart]

list of act 2 bosses i have fougth so far (based on ow much i liked the figth and its difficulty)

[earnest moat]

never said thread storm was bad, only bad one is rune rage

[glacial kelp]

maybe a tl issue

[green dagger]

Also I have to repeat the parkour? To return, I entered like a door on the city, but... I dont really wanna do that again please xd

[silver nacelle]

Neat. I use it for bosses that I can't be bothered to aim for because they're either difficult to hit or I'm running for my life.

[unreal veldt]

i need help with this guys
Garmond & Zaza
Journal Entry i have been trying to get him to spawn for the past 3 hours wtf am i supposed to do

[empty salmon]

Idk it's too high even with double jump

[elfin totem]

im broke as fuck in act 3 and dont have rosary for stuff to buy its saving my life rn

[halcyon charm]

oml true cogwork dancers and phantom are so good

[wet yoke]

I'll try this tomorrow. I swear on the Radiance I am gonna get this upgrade and come back to burn this overgrown weed to the ground

[brave maple]

Can yall comment on my actual list and not the mistakes that the person who made the template made 😢

[glacial kelp]

go down then back up in the rightmost tallroom

[trim estuary]

Any news

[unborn garden]

Think you gotta do sum parkour to get up there but it's mostly simple jump i'm pretty sure unlike before

[rotund nymph]

guys apparently you can dash down, i'm finding this after 80h in game

[deft girder]

Lost Lace is my favorite fight in the game now

[heady rampart]

hold down dash for dive

[glacial kelp]

grats! you found above the cradle!

[wet yoke]

I mean, Fourth Chorus, as rough as they were was actually kinda fun. Sister Splinter, idk honestly

[mortal cradle]

||guys i have 1% left what could i be missing i have all spool all needle upgrades all silks skills all tools beat the game act 3 included and i have all silk hearts||

[crystal ledge]

okay u cannot tell me that wasnt cold as fuck

[brave maple]

i feel the time gap between your two messaged

[flint dust]

yooo

[glacial kelp]

super niche since you can only dash once in the air

[green dagger]

SIMPLE? That parkour is so horrible! It's path of pain of Silksong :c

[brave maple]

i just got off after an hour and a half of ll attempts

[silver nacelle]

True. Rune rage sucks.

[deft girder]

oh i was busy for a lot of the day

[green dagger]

Ye, that. I found it just by curiosity... But I dont wanna do that parkour agaiiin :c

[deft girder]

took me about 12 attempts, give or take

[crystal ledge]

yo

[fresh thunder]

|| bind eva ||

[glacial kelp]

bro you got rolled

[brave maple]

im on my like 20th attempt shits way harder than ||karmelita||

[glacial kelp]

the humble mushroom:

[elfin totem]

what the fuck is this shit bro 🥀 🥀

[flint dust]

||GARMOND WHAT HAPPENED TO U||

[undone plume]

They really gotta add an option to tone down the visual effects in this game lol,phase 3 shouldn't even be this hard for me but it just hurts my eyes

[brave maple]

The mushroom does not concern himself with the opinions of parkourcels

[unreal veldt]

i really need help
Garmond & Zaza
Journal Entry i have been trying to get him to spawn for the past 3 hours wtf am i supposed to do

[deft girder]

my advice is to go wanderers and get used to aerial movement

[pallid wagon]

Is Act 3 actually hell?

[unborn garden]

I mean you could try diff crests to maybe make poggoing easier atleast

[rancid elk]

do we got any thoughts on this gate? (idk how to enter it, but I really really wanna)

[flint dust]

quest

[vocal sky]

You can’t

[stiff tide]

How far you get

[umbral pivot]

is lost verdania needed for 100%

[unreal veldt]

where pls tell me

[glacial kelp]

debug mode idk you cant

[crystal ledge]

fym i backflipped over his ass and crit him into a wall

[deft girder]

karmelita pmo so i just architected it

[flint dust]

I would describe it as hella fun

[glacial kelp]

explain everything before that

[unreal veldt]

om losing my shit

[flint dust]

bell place, u take it there

[brave maple]

it doesnt hurt my eyes but the screen certainly gets clogged and i cant trll whats going on. other than that and the fact that the health bar is way too bloated i enjoy it IMMENSELY

[pearl mason]

is it possible to get to the cradle in act 3

[crystal ledge]

oh yeah im js pin farming i wasnt really trying to dodge anything

[flint dust]

Karmelita best boss in the game

[unreal veldt]

there is no quiest there

[crystal ledge]

except the 2 damage charge ofc

[umbral pivot]

yeah, silk soar up that long vertical section in cog core

[stiff tide]

Have to disagree Ngl

[flint dust]

the idk mb

[brave maple]

what i imagine to be 2 hits or less away, she started doing 4 of the slice aoe thingy

[deft girder]

poison cogflies for the win

[undone plume]

Yes and you really should explore it

[flint dust]

which is ur fav

[pallid wagon]

Have you tried ||the elevator in Cogwork Core||?

[brave maple]

that shit gets annihilated

[pallid wagon]

It's still usable

[full spade]

i thought silksong had 3 acts

[deft girder]

i would've liked karmalita if it weren't for the fact all her attacks were aoe

[flint dust]

I played with witch nail only and learning every single move and almost no hitting her was the most fun ive had in this game prolly

[umbral pivot]

na

[quiet zephyr]

ill agree with you the instant they make the projectile attacks consistently throw 2 waves after phase 1 instead of it being a 50/50

[glacial kelp]

fuck no what

[stiff tide]

Well, the last phase is really long so dont get too messed up about it

[full spade]

why did i beat the game in act 2

[flint dust]

yeah i also noticed that

[torpid scaffold]

Team Cherry after giving the new flying enemy better aim than a Minecraft skeleton: AND MAKE IT DODGE MORE THAN SANS!

[deft girder]

it's a cool idea for a fully aerial fight in this game but there's no platform but the opposite wall and that pmo

[stiff tide]

LL tbh basic I know, or phantom mostly because of the way it ends

[pallid wagon]

Oh. Use the tube system

[flint dust]

NOOOOOOOO

[full spade]

i havent even seen bile watr yet

[brave maple]

yeah i was in it for 4 minutes and died to an iffy hitbox, i genuinely got so upset

[green dagger]

OH!!! The fast path is unlocked! I dont have to repeat it!

[wet yoke]

Actually, no. Sister Splinter currently feels like getting a splinter jammed in your hand

[unborn garden]

||it does you unlock it after beating the game and doing every wish then and get every silk heart then talk to song cleave bell guy||

[flint dust]

LL? Mb if its smt obvious

[deft girder]

please censor B*lewater

[spiral field]

how do u leave abyss after u kill lost lace

[glacial kelp]

silk hearts are not needed like at all lmao what

[brave maple]

bilewater is a top 3 area in the game 🥺

[stiff tide]

Have you gotten the true ending? If not don’t worry about it

[unborn garden]

Lowkey had forgot that path existed

[vocal sky]

The diving bell

[umbral pivot]

first sinner goated

[full spade]

guess i gotta start grinding then

[spiral field]

how do u get the map

[flint dust]

wait u mean lost lace?

[undone plume]

Use the bell to get back up

[deft girder]

if you don't know, you haven't killed her

[near pumice]

F*** the coral tower

[stiff tide]

Yeah fair enough, I was lucky enough that I didn’t have any deaths that were super close before I beat her

[paper galleon]

what do i do once i get all the fleas to ||putrtfied ducts?||

[glacial kelp]

get do all fleas, maps, and wishes is always my baseline

[flint dust]

yea, second beat boss in the game for me at the momet

[spiral field]

wym

[stiff tide]

Yes

[unborn garden]

Have fun.

[brave maple]

Not even ragebait btw bilewater is genuinely a great area but id only put it top 5 purely because of groals whole fight and runback being disgusting

[weary gorge]

a video of my fight with ||skarrsinger||

[deft girder]

it'll tell you the inputs on the screen

[umbral pivot]

accept his gift

[pallid wagon]

Why was ||Lace|| taking a nap in ||The Cradle||?

[paper galleon]

what gift 😭

[flint dust]

U A WITCH MAIN LIKE ME, U HAVE MY WHOLE REAPECT

[umbral pivot]

the main guy mooshka

[brave maple]

this boss is so hype that im gonna watch a ss discussion video for once

[uncut elk]

Do u get anything from the fight with ||shakra||

[deft girder]

she gotta sit still and look pretty gng

[stiff tide]

Yeah I like bilewater, sure it’s annoying to traverse but that’s the point. Something about it, I just like it

[paper galleon]

i only got a toolpouch upgrade, is that it??

[vast stream]

do yall think beast crest is worth or not ive debated on trying to use reaper and beast to test but theres no easy way to my knowlege to refight bosses in this game without restarting

[weary gorge]

I think you only need every town mission done, and you need to move the flea guys to the final resting location and you can do act 3

[pallid wagon]

Witch user. Applaud this man

[spiral field]

what is the lore reason u haul lost lace out the abyss

[umbral pivot]

he should give you a tool, do you have all 30 or just enough to get to PD?

[paper galleon]

just enough to get to PD

[flint dust]

tip for new-mid story players, if u wanna enjoy a boss, dont ise architect, learned the hatd way

[stiff tide]

No spoilers is crazy famalam

[umbral pivot]

oh. well once u get all 30 then go back and grab his tool

[weary gorge]

honestly it's whatever you think is fun. I used beast until I unlocked witch lol

[unborn garden]

Not 100% sure but i think you also need all silk hearts

[paper galleon]

but is this at least enough for act 3?

[deft girder]

this is a spoilers allowed chat

[umbral pivot]

yeah ur good

[weary gorge]

makes the fight look 10x cooler imo, witch is just dope

[pallid wagon]

Witch's crest was agony to unlock

[paper galleon]

ok cool thanks

[stiff tide]

Ik but unnecessary spoilers are looked down upon

[vast stream]

i know witch is like.. i dunno how to get it hahaham is it just hunters crest with the little burst of damage on heal? i dunno dont have it yetr

[weary gorge]

nope, I still don't have all the silk hearts and am almost done with act 3

[quiet zephyr]

2 straight shot projectiles for tools is a cracked pick

[pseudo merlin]

how do i solve this

[umbral pivot]

connect all the music notes with the levers

[fluid scarab]

Skarrsinger is to hard

[stiff tide]

🥀

[heady rampart]

hit them levers to line up them notes

[flint dust]

yeah

[unborn garden]

Oh aight good to know then, i got it just in case

[dusky sundial]

Make the music line up

[pseudo merlin]

fym

[dusky sundial]

Use your eyes, assuming you're not blind and make the music line up

[deft girder]

||the reason pharloom's being wrecked is because grandmother silk refuses to die because she wants to save lace, but can't on her own. By saving lace, grandmother silk can rest and pharloom is saved||

[vast stream]

theres only 3 right?

[flint dust]

Witch+mirrors+quick injector+ longnail most fun build in the game prove me wrong

[charred crest]

i need help with hunter's journal ||im 232/234|| finished 100% act 3, ||now I cant find vaultkeeper and cogwork defender||

[pseudo merlin]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

[brave maple]

the soundtrack, atmosphere, enemy design, level design and challenge of bilewater is all genuinely near perfect. if the boss wasnt so tedious it would maybe be my second fav (the citadel is obviously #1)

[weary gorge]

it's like, a moveset that's really close range, the dash and the down attack are multi-hit, and the heal only heals you if you can deal damage with it otherwise you get no heal from it lol

[dusky sundial]

MAKE THE MUSIC LINE UP

[earnest cliff]

lmao, the cocoon

[pallid wagon]

Witch’s crest would be S-tier if we didn't need to go to B*lewater

[stiff tide]

True

[weary gorge]

yea, I still only have 2

[heady rampart]

make the lines of the notes line up

[zenith void]

Does the base needle damage vary depending on what crest you are using?

[flint dust]

music

[vast stream]

want me to say where the third is?

[heady rampart]

very sligthly iirc

[brave maple]

for hunters memento do you need completion or encounter

[vast stream]

or a hint idk

[earnest moat]

maybe if you healed more than 3 or 4

[halcyon charm]

I hate moorwing bro 🥀

[flint dust]

||whiteward||

[dusky sundial]

Yes

[deep mantle]

I literally just unlocked that and was really disappointed

[weary gorge]

I wish I could redo the fight so I could use my projectiles more. I started to learn the patterns a lot more by the end and it would have looked sick I think

[burnt patrol]

completion i believe

[brave maple]

sigh

[vast stream]

^^

[quiet zephyr]

there is a mod to replay bosses

[flint dust]

who said it wasn’t, S tier in fun

[weary gorge]

I don't really mind, I'm not hunting all items yet but I'm just gonna look up locations for all of them

[brave maple]

i might genuinely get a pc purely for silksong mods and hollow knight mods

[unborn garden]

Lowkey hope they add something similiar to pantheons in silksong in one of the dlc's

[weary gorge]

how does it work? Do you get a menu?

[quiet zephyr]

yea, all the bosses and a bench warp

[pallid wagon]

Witch is weaker against smaller, more agile enemies due to their dodging, but it's coated against larger enemies

[weary gorge]

what's it called?

[quiet zephyr]

just "godhome" i believe

[deft girder]

beast crest would be S tier if they took the cap off the healing for it (which i think is fair)

[earnest cliff]

what

[languid bluff]

Incorrect

[brave maple]

half of my speed completion run will be on ll to be honest

[pallid wagon]

B*lewater holds it down like a rancid anchor

[weary gorge]

I feel like it's solid against the smaller enemies, you just have to really get their pattern down to heal

[brave maple]

is there a speedrunning category for 100% true ending yet?

[earnest moat]

bilewater is fun, the boss is not

[heady rampart]

||just saw a cogwork enemy walk directly into the gears, no player input, rip legend|| soilers for citadel area

[earnest cliff]

use save files

[worldly umbra]

area tier list ( if you ask me the reason i put something somewhere ill tell you)

[vast stream]

how do i go about getting witch? or should i wait cause theres a ending associated to getting the plague or whatever

[vast stream]

is that ending an achievment?

[deft girder]

please censor b*lewater 😰

[weary gorge]

would be OP imo. Idk how to fix beastcrest but I'm fine with it as is just for a challenge

[unborn garden]

The living Fookin bushes are not >:(

[tawdry valley]

Bh is like 3 rooms

[brave maple]

why is bellhart at the very top, and why are underworks and sands in d

[weary gorge]

I'll check it out, I love godhome

[dusky sundial]

Coated in what

[worldly umbra]

@tawdry valleyits a town

[earnest cliff]

how is The Mist in B, it's the second worst after Bilewater

[halcyon charm]

bone bottom forgotten 🥀

[heady rampart]

make a backup since it can corrupt your save file

[pallid wagon]

Blink twice if Bilewater is holding you hostage.

[unborn garden]

Lowkey not a bad tier list

[golden wharf]

is there any way to get my 2620 rosaries back after dying before getting to the cocoon

[grave rune]

hunters march C????

[earnest moat]

it's not

[fathom ridge]

Why is sinners road so low

[heady rampart]

where is ||infected wormways?!?!?!||

[earnest moat]

I'm just a enjoyer of the game

[deft girder]

giving it it's own blue slot would bring it up to snuff honestly. I'd rather have uncapped lifesteal though because the only other crest in the game with a strictly worse heal also turned that heal into the highest burst damage in the game

[vast stream]

useless area to my knowlege

[glossy wind]

is it just me or groal the great just the worst fucking boss ever conceived

[brave maple]

im gonna do my area tierlist and its gonna be WAYYY more controversial than my boss tierlist i fear i may be expelled for thjs

[worldly umbra]

@brave maplebellhart is a nice town that gives you a lot of mask shards for quests and stuff, underworks got bumped up a bit cuz of claw line and sands of karak has those guys who snipe you from 20 miles away

[quiet zephyr]

bilewater apologists would be in shambles if there werent those passive enemies that respawned when you reenter the room to farm silk from

[glossy wind]

imagine the most annoying flying boss that spams projectiles at you

[heady rampart]

one of the most useful ones..

[solemn valley]

||do i need to beat groal for act 3?||

[worldly umbra]

'@fathom ridgecrocodiles and the muckmaggots

[earnest cliff]

yes

[deft girder]

real

[glossy wind]

in an arena with platforms where the ground makes it so you cant heal

[vast stream]

how so i genuinely dunno.

[final magnet]

i like fourth chorus but i wish he didnt move as stiff and smoothly

[unborn garden]

||yup you need something he drops||

[solemn valley]

crappppppp

[worldly umbra]

@grave runesavage beastfly, and i didnt like the voided version

[grave rune]

||karmaleita fight||, early game rosary farm, gets you prepared for later enemies and learning "oh shit enemies will actively evade me, block attacks, and parry"

[lofty hull]

I struggled with him for a while. Came back today and beat him first time and it felt borderline easy. Not really sure what I did differently. I was honestly shocked how quickly it ended

[worldly umbra]

@halcyon charmdgfsdsgf

[glossy wind]

and the runback is horrible and you have to fight a gauntlet just to get to him every time you lose

[halcyon charm]

What

[fluid scarab]

I sont think I'll ever be able to beat skarrsinger just because of when she becomes the spiky ball it just dashes on me then I cant move the just get combo

[vast stream]

let me look up what that ios

[unkempt pine]

is there anything i could get from the mist area

[burnt patrol]

i mostly agree with this
i would put whiteward a little higher, as well as hunter's march and memorium
underworks a lot higher, and as hated as bilewater is, i don't think it's d-tier
and i would move bellhart to a

[quiet zephyr]

if you're rosary farming in hunter's you're a different kinda beast tbh

[pallid wagon]

Team Cherry should add a boss that's just a Clawmaiden but with 30x more hp

[deft girder]

yes

[worldly umbra]

@earnest cliffmist was lowk fun for me, finding the butterflies and stuff and phantom was a peak bossfight

[snow pebble]

Is there anything I can do in ||border caves||? Just wondering so I don't waste hours on this shit

[weary gorge]

Beast Crest does theoretically the highest DPS in the game with it's rage, I think giving it uncapped heal would be unhinged tbh. I like it where it's at tbh. It's a super flashy crest if you can make it work

[vast stream]

aaaaa i didnt know that was there in all honesty im not in act 3 yet, im just cleaning up act 2 rn

[stone trail]

I just gave an ant my curveclaw is it just gone forever now? ;-;

[glossy wind]

and all his attacks do double damage and the closest bench forces you to get the status effect once you come out

[weary gorge]

thanks, I'd rage if I lost my save lol

[fathom ridge]

The ||mist|| is a peak area especially on first playthroughs

[worldly umbra]

@halcyon charmbonebottom is part of mosslands

[gleaming sonnet]

how do i open this trapdoor in the ||slab?|| im trying to find the ||slab|| map and i looked all over the lower floors and i cant find it so.. i also already got the ||faydown cloak|| and explored all of ||mount fay||

[halcyon charm]

why it called mosslands

[deep moon]

OH MY GOD NOOOO WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO PILBYYY

[deft girder]

thankfully groal himself has a pretty simple moveset that's easy enough to learn... if you can make it though that bitchass arena and even see him

[naive holly]

true ending final boss spoilers don't click if you don't want spoiled.

i beat the true ending final boss with just the starting nail https://youtu.be/zC7dLntYK9I

[worldly umbra]

@halcyon charmcuz thats what the map is called

[vast stream]

go left then there should be a way down to the bell beast, then from there there will be a door that says key of apostate

[grave rune]

I mean it was either that or marrow/deepdocks but the enemies felt either too spaced out or just didnt give enough to feel worth farming

[weary gorge]

Im gonna put silksong on this and turn it into a godhome machine lol

[snow pebble]

to the right of where you see grindle you can get the map

[earnest cliff]

the map is in the bench room where you find grindle, go to the right

[gleaming sonnet]

is that key required??

[vast stream]

then you need to go to bilewater for the key to open the way there which will then lead up

[snow pebble]

Is there anything I can do in ||border caves||? Just wondering so I don't waste hours on this shit

[slim sedge]

have people already beaten the game in steel soul mode

[vast stream]

yes , if you dont have it all you get is the bellway which is nice you can come and go

[quiet zephyr]

i just bite the bullet on the 10 per run on the top left bench of marrow / mosshome entrance until i get to citadel and then i do bellway for 29 per run

[gleaming sonnet]

i dunno who grindle is i got to the slab by going left from choral

[halcyon charm]

I haven’t but I will at some point

[slim sedge]

terrifying....

[grave rune]

bellway 29 per run?

[snow pebble]

guys PLEASE

[slim sedge]

i never bothered with steel soul in HK and never got past pantheon 3 LOL

[deft girder]

i think it's fine because you lose time by being hit. Being in rage makes an unexperienced player encouraged to greed for more hits, and experienced players won't notice a difference because who takes damage in silksong when they're good anyway?

[gleaming sonnet]

so do i need to do anything else in slab to beat the game?

or should i just go and find the smelodies

[quiet zephyr]

leave bellway to the left, kill the 2 enemies that reanimate when you get near them w a charged architect heavy, go back and reset on the bench

[gleaming sonnet]

idk how to get there thats above where i am rn

[snow pebble]

Is there anything I can do in ||border caves||? I'm really struggling and wondering if it's worth

[weary gorge]

yeah I think this is the best use-case for Beast Crest. Purely to style on the enemy

[vast stream]

to my knowlege no, theres a optional boss there which sucks, but the melodies are priority, also going to the left more will lead to mount fey which is VERY important

[split plinth]

i'm having trouble getting ||act 3|| to start please help
||i completed all songclave quests, all bone bottom quests, and all but one bellhart quest. the fleas are in fleatopia. i beat grandmother silk. what am i missing?||

[vast raven]

More damage with twin mirrors, it’s actually crazy how much synergy you get with this build

[gleaming sonnet]

and theres no way to get there other than the lever that opens the route thing

[gleaming sonnet]

i already finsihed mt fay but idk how to get the map which i looked up and its above where i am rn

[earnest cliff]

i think you need to get captured

[deft girder]

that plus it being the hardest crest to obtain (yes i think beastfly is harder than dealing with curse)

[weary gorge]

it's the bellhart quest

[pallid wagon]

The parasite from the witch crest quest line is kinda chill

[red hornet]

You did ||shakra's wish?||

[gleaming sonnet]

ill come across that at some point then

[snow pebble]

Is there anything to do in border caves?

[covert gyro]

POSHANKA

[weary gorge]

gotta have all town quests completed

[snow pebble]

Is there anything to do in border caves?

[deft girder]

POSHANKA

[steep cloud]

professional ragebaiter

[split plinth]

no. is it required?

[quiet zephyr]

high halls is a cancer area im sorry, clawmaidens suck, clawline platforming with the water sucks, the arena sucks

[grave rune]

ohhhh, I clear the entire vertical area and then reset for a good ~150+ every time I dont remember the specific, but I usually save silk to clear the first 2 easy and use the little drone tool to auto hit the flying big guys

[vast stream]

the only way up in the slab is through that door that has the key you need, which is in bilewater

[mortal aurora]

Is there a boss rush thing out yet?

[snow pebble]

Is there anything to do in border caves?

[earnest cliff]

||mr mushroom quest||

[split plinth]

oh, okay

[vast raven]

You should get some new quests also talk to the guy next to the shrine in songclave

[brave maple]

I should put an asterisk beside the highest tier because no area is amazing in all aspects (Which isn't a bad thing, the only area in the entire series thats perfect is City of Tears)

[red hornet]

Im pretty sure yeah

[bright compass]

Somehow I've yet to encounter 10 enemies, though I have a map for each area
the secrets be going crazy in this game

[deft girder]

ai- lahilahilahi
oooooo shkadoo

[worldly umbra]

@burnt patroli dont like the creepy asthetic of whiteward, and i only bumped it up cuz you need to go there for clawline. bellhart is s because you get a lot of useful tools and stuff, and you fight a peak bossfight. bilewater because of muckmaggots and boss. i hate bilewater, but it was kinda fun. ill change the memorium pos and i dont like underworks because i dont like it (even tho the stuff you get is goated)

[vast stream]

POSHANKA

[red hornet]

She shouldve posted it in bellhart

[normal token]

I hate I know what happens

[brave maple]

clawmaidens can be removed, clawline platforming is fun and the arena is overhated

[snow pebble]

So there's basically no point

[pallid wagon]

You take one step in their general direction and they are already 4 time zones away.

[wraith rapids]

I wish you could get lost ||verdanias ||map before you beat the boss

[split plinth]

i've checked with him several times, i've also ||fought grandmother silk again before talking to him in case something just didn't load||

[earnest cliff]

wdym no point

[slim sedge]

when i did high halls i had shakra fighting with me it was fucking awesome

[split plinth]

how do i get it?

[deft girder]

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-the-matrix-swerve-lunge-dive-gif-22197111

[snow pebble]

mister mushroom does nothing in hk, I'm assuming he does nothing in ss

[vast raven]

Ahem, spoiler tag that, i know but not everyone does

[red hornet]

You need to buy all her maps

[vast stream]

i did that shit by spamming let me get that

[brave maple]

High halls soundtrack atmosphere challenge and enemies is the aspects it excels in and the drawbacks are the lack of bosses (only ||2nd sentinel||) and the brevity of it

[earnest cliff]

just rush the game bro at this point

[vast raven]

If you want 100% then he does

[steep cloud]

hitting them is so annoying bro they are automatically an absolute nuisance in any gauntlet levels that theyre in

[vast raven]

I haven’t gotten the mr mushroom ending yet tho

[vast stream]

first try archetect spam cause lol

[split plinth]

oh, im only missing the ||bilewater|| map. where is it?

[snow pebble]

so I seriously have to go through the border caves just for 100%

[supple nacelle]

I wonder if the scrapped barnacle area was just replaced with craw lake

[pallid wagon]

Please tell me that Shakra doesn't die in act 3

[deft girder]

target priority #1

[brave maple]

ring the shakra bell at bellhart

[unkempt kernel]

GIVE ME A CHALLENGE IDEA FOR SILKSONG AND IF I LIKE IT ILL PUT YOU IN MY VIDEO

[earnest cliff]

yes

[vast raven]

Yeah you do, my save is 99% lol

[grave rune]

cant wait for the dlc that just bilewaters the entireity of the map and at the end after fighting Absolute Pure Groal the Great, Hornet learns the true meaning of hatered and the final cutscene is just this but hornet

[lapis minnow]

oh my god...

[quiet zephyr]

competes w drill fly for being the most fazed up enemy in the game

[snow pebble]

It's literally just path of pain but with no infinitely repeatable healing

[split plinth]

shoot i just left bellhart oop 💔

[vast stream]

the archetect crest?

[brave maple]

oh my god dont joke about this...

[red hornet]

You need the double jump, just follow shakra's rings and youll find her in bilewater

[brave maple]

that would be super bad....

[grave rune]

I'll spread the news...

[wraith rapids]

wait if I die in ||verdania ||do I have to restart the entire thing

[deft girder]

beat the whole game hitless while cursed and with a pure black vignette covering half the screen around hornet
no balls

[earnest moat]

here's mine, I didn't think too much about some stuff

[slim sedge]

no it saves your progress you just start at the beginning

[old island]

oml why is the average silksong enemy harder than the radiance

[unkempt kernel]

something pheasable

[split plinth]

i have it already so i'm not complaining, but why would they lock a map behind double jump?

[tawdry valley]

You don’t reset|| but you wake up outside. There is also a bench in the real world nearby||

[wraith rapids]

so I just got to walk back

[brave maple]

How long until the game is done hitless?

[slim sedge]

yeah

[deft girder]

it's technically possible

[gleaming sonnet]

i found the grindle dude in the ||citadel||

[wraith rapids]

team cherry isnt that evil yet

[worldly umbra]

@unkempt kernelpurple quill %, all mementos % (both are hell btw), beating silksong without binding (you can decide rules), and get infected %

[red hornet]

Well bilewater's kinda late-act 2 so it sorta makes sense

[grave rune]

guys who is winning Hornet or Goku with no limbs blindfolded and sick/tired

[split plinth]

i guess 🤷

[brave maple]

Id give it 2-4 more weeks til someone does ||weaver queen ending|| run hitless

[quiet zephyr]

people will look you dead in the face and tell you pinstress isnt just a tankier version of those fucking kunai chickens from greymoor

[tawdry valley]

Beaten? Less than 3 days id bet money.
100%? Idk. maybe not before end of the year

[vocal sky]

You can heal off the worms

[pallid wagon]

Put goku in bilewater

[honest fulcrum]

goku still got that unfortunately 😭😭

[grave rune]

TRUE he is also worm infested

[brave maple]

but true ending hitless will take at least 3 months or more

[deft girder]

hornet, obviously, she binds krillin first and then vegeta and finally goku (then beerus)

[brave maple]

actually way more

[earnest moat]

I thought it was just alright

[snow pebble]

I'm fine on health until the second room, and then the worms cover up the whole spot I want to be able to stand

[fresh pebble]

fourth chorus is SO overrated

[brave maple]

kunai chickens is so funny

[grave rune]

naw he Worm infested cant use his ki energy

[quiet zephyr]

id drop it a tier just for being a supposed swordmaster who fights w projectile spam

[slim sedge]

i hated bilewater until i found the ||wreath of purity|| and it became bearable

[honest fulcrum]

beerus is hakai’ing hornet out of existence brudda

[earnest moat]

damn, never thought of that

[deft girder]

cross stitched

[deep mantle]

Karmelita is pretty tough

[vocal sky]

You can move away and hover until there’s an opening

[frank seal]

||im gettinf to lost lace phase 3 pretty consistently now but god is she wrecking me now in phase 3||

[honest fulcrum]

beerus is the one entity hornet cannot and will not be allowed to touch ngl

[coarse leaf]

hot

[snow pebble]

okay well I'm shit at the game so I'm coming back later

[vast stream]

love this game

[fresh pebble]

he has 2 attacks and the way you dodge one of them is just jumping, doesnt matter where you are, you just jump, and he has no interesting lore, and his other attack is just "dash out of the way", and he has a second phase but it doesnt actually make him harder, fourth chorus is ass

[honest fulcrum]

hakai goes thru cross stitch btw

[grave rune]

cant wait for Kaizo Silksong where Wreath of Purity once equipped applies worm infestation every 30 minutes permanently

[unkempt pine]

what do i do in the mist

[deft girder]

proof?

[slim sedge]

wreath of sin

[honest fulcrum]

watch dbz

[teal tendon]

Is there any required bosses other than Moss Mother, Bell Beast, Widow, Last Judge/Phantom, Cogwork Dancers, Lace 2, and Grand Mother Silk?

[pallid wagon]

Cross stitch needs to do more damage

[deft girder]

did

[raw hearth]

Truly sadness

[unkempt pine]

ik this is a joke but she doesnt even go past krillin

[vocal sky]

Bell beast is actually skip-able (via worm ways, used in low %)

[frank seal]

anyone have tips for ||lost lace phase 3||

[honest fulcrum]

^

[grave rune]

If Silksong were to get a Kaizo mod, what ragebait would you place into it to fuck with players

[teal tendon]

Interesting

[worldly umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/flea-silksong-hollow-knight-doggie-sleepy-gif-2788838989588605079

[frank seal]

remove bilewater secret bench

[burnt patrol]

you actually don't need to go to whiteward to get clawline, you can defeat trobbio instead (in fact, you need to defeat him anyway for vaultkeeper's melody)
bellhart having a lot of useful tools isn't really a factor for me.. i'm judging locations by feel, vibe, and gameplay mostly

[brave maple]

trobbio

[fresh pebble]

hornet soloes entire DBZ verse except maybe like perfect cell but even that would be close

[pallid pine]

Chat what should my next day goal be. My last one was 50

[deft girder]

no attack shown, including pure soul energy (which is a description of ki (god ki being a special, lossless way of using ki)) can go through cross stitch. It's a foolproof parry

[brave maple]

how does wormways skip bell beast

[unkempt pine]

is your guild tag sees as sees in p3?

[deft girder]

she wins trust

[flint dust]

next game we should play as karmelita🔥

[earnest moat]

damn

[vocal sky]

Secret wall lets you get to the upper exit that lets you get to shellwood

[honest fulcrum]

she literally loses to kid buu

[earnest moat]

probably it's a ryoji server picture

[deft girder]

i feel like next game we'll play as Lace

[frank seal]

anyone have tips for ||lost lace phase 3||

[honest fulcrum]

yes

[brave maple]

so the only required bosses are moss mother, widow, last judge, cogwork dancers, lace 2 and gms?

[grave rune]

replaced with a savage beastfly where you will constantly respawn in the room triggering the fight again until you finish it

[flint dust]

zoteeeee

[split plinth]

oh shoot she isn't there

[oblique patio]

i spent WAY too long in greymoor, and even made it to BELLHART AND COMPLETED THAT WHOLE THING before getting greymoor’s map

what is the matter with me

[glossy wind]

is there a way to cheese groal im so tired of this mf

[spiral pasture]

as funny as that would be karmelita is at the end of a day a backer character
im not sure if theyre ever appearing again in any capacity in future games

[quiet zephyr]

bell thrower bells never stop having a hurtbox, not even when youve already been hit by them

[vocal sky]

You can skip last judge (along with most of the prerequisites) by doing phantom instead but yeah

[candid gyro]

am i the only one who thinks needolin playing shouldn't cost silk, or should just consume 1 pip instantly and then nothing else? Taunt has several practical uses that could be used to justify the silk cost, but all it does on the needolin is make it more inconvenient to read thoughts

[unkempt pine]

im not entirely sure but is your pfp yukari (im not sure cause i don’t recognize the drawing style)

[grave rune]

Didn't Lace die in the latest found ending?

[earnest moat]

indeed

[frank seal]

camping under the elevated platform on the rightmost side helps

[red hornet]

Oh she isnt? Maybe try her spot at bellhart

[brave maple]

im aware but theres no point in that

[pallid wagon]

I hope so

[flint dust]

yeah im jk but i hope we csn fight her again

[glossy wind]

omg thank you

[slim sedge]

there's a video i watched abt it, you can just sit in the puke water to entirely avoid basically all his attacks

[teal tendon]

Yeah

[worldly umbra]

i wanna play as quirrel next game

[raw hearth]

Wait why is widow required, can’t you sneak into the cidadel via phantom? (It probably is required for a reason I just wanna know)

[unkempt pine]

fireee

[spiral pasture]

no theyre pretty alive

[flint dust]

WHYYY

[vocal sky]

Last judge is locked behind bell beast and probably some other bosses

[glossy wind]

what thats so smart im doing that

[unkempt pine]

junpei ace detective more like

[deft girder]

||equip wanderer, spam nail bounce on her whenever she's open||
||jump whenever she parries||
||and using wall jump and feather cloak can get you above every attack she has so it's a free heal||

[spiral pasture]

needolin

[grave rune]

She sacrificed herself to become Hornets Nike shoe laces

[teal tendon]

You need the needolin to finish the game

[hazy parcel]

is there a bench at phantom

[snow pebble]

||I can't beat seth because I'm bad, I can't beat enraged conchfly because I always have 1 or 2 health when I get there, and I can't beat skarrsinger karmelita because the enemy gauntlet always leaves me low. I have max nail and still can't do anything. Are there any other upgrades I can get that make it easier?||

[raw hearth]

Ah that’s true

[flint dust]

yeah i think she’s alive

[deft girder]

?

[spiral pasture]

💔

[flint dust]

practice

[slim sedge]

do you have all the tool upgrades? they do a surprising amount of damage and i underutilized them in my playthrough

[brave maple]

oh wait crap yeah you gotta ring the bells to get through grand gate. so its moss mother, widow, phantom, cogwork dancers, trobbio, lace 2 and gms then i assume

[snow pebble]

I'm not about to waste 20 hours of my life to beat 2 bosses

[raw hearth]

Riiight cuz you need the songs to access lace 2

[pallid wagon]

I've died too many times to Lace2 spamming her arial attack

[grave rune]

Yeah she became apart of Hornet's shoes

[vocal sky]

You can get architects and spam tools

[vast raven]

Well if she did ( she ||didn’t|| ) you shouldn’t say it out loud like that lmao

[stone trail]

It's about 7 nail hits with twin mirror

[worldly umbra]

@raw hearthmelodies, and you cannot progress thru the mist without needolin you literally cant guess the rooms correctly

[flint dust]

alr

[lilac dock]

Guys, where's the item that|| let's you track progress of collecting etc?||

[spiral pasture]

health and spool upgrades

[slim sedge]

spool extender my beloved

[deft girder]

at that point there quite literally is nothing to say except skill issue. You should focus on increasing your reaction time and attention to detail.

[flint dust]

abyss

[cyan sage]

Wth is shakra doing

[spiral pasture]

farsight located in the ||abyss? i think??||

[grave rune]

sorry setup for hornet shoes laces puncline

[wet yoke]

How the heck do you do the bird gauntlet in Greymoor (the one blocking Threadstorm)?

[deft girder]

huh.

[vocal sky]

I’m pretty sure you can skip trobbio by going to the cauldron via whiteward

[bright compass]

omg

[final stag]

Hot take: ||the arena to get to conductor melody was easy. Not difficult i got to the final wave first try, died and beat it second try.||

[vast raven]

Plus life drain, feels damn good to use, also you can make it longer

[high sigil]

have you guys noticed how every youtuber that complains about how hard silksong is and why they hate it are always without fail using reaper crest in the background footage

[lilac dock]

Got it, ty.

[raw hearth]

Speed run will eventually converge on a RNG shitfest mist strategy trust

[snow pebble]

I have 9 masks and I don't have any idea where to get more spools

[wraith rapids]

bro palestag is such an ass boss

[spiral pasture]

you can get 1 more mask

[brave maple]

palestag is aight

[split plinth]

okay phew she's there

[stone trail]

I'm counting with the multibinder

[snow pebble]

that's not helpful, go (kindly) fuck yourself

[vast raven]

I had to go through every area with a guide bc I was missing ONE

[teal coyote]

i just finally finished 100%, gah idk if im gonna be able to go finish hk now 😭

[unkempt pine]

shady fly

[deft girder]

there is no helpful here man i'm sorry 😭

[slim sedge]

what's this reaper crest hate 💔

[flint dust]

with architect its cake thats why i changed, if u didnd use architect good job

[vast raven]

Well point still stands, feels damn good to use and seven hits is not insignificant

[spiral pasture]

if youre desperate you can also look up a guide for that

[unkempt pine]

hk is easier

[worldly umbra]

@raw hearththeres stuff that makes you intentionally not get thru the rooms correctly until you get needolin

[stone trail]

I'm out here trying to figure out where the fuck the missing tools are lol

[snow pebble]

but then it's not an authentic experience

[raw hearth]

Ohhhh
Dang!

They thought of everything

[frank seal]

god ||lost lace phase 3 is such a diff spike||

[wet yoke]

My nail can't kill those things fast enough

[stone trail]

Oh I love using it lol, Im a witch crest main.

[earnest moat]

that's only for the person to judge

[spiral pasture]

reaper crest hate is nothing but propaganda
i first tried tower and karmelita with this thing its my goat

[proper shard]

she adds one attack 😭✌️

[teal coyote]

oh i know, i meant more of a quality reason, silksong was just so much more enjoyable to me than the time i spent in hk

[unkempt pine]

sooo why am i fighting the holy spirit

[tidal hearth]

Well you are already making it leas authentic by asking help

[frank seal]

and gets way faster dawg

[snow pebble]

I've judged it and I think it's not an authentic experience

[worldly umbra]

@frank seali thought there were just 2 phases, no?

[deft girder]

reaper is my least favorite crest but none of them are really bad

[spiral pasture]

welp in that case i cant help

[vast raven]

Me too, it’s so good reapers was my favorite until I found the more rewarding crest

[proper shard]

errr not really i didn’t notice a huge spike in speed

[snow pebble]

I asked if there are any other upgrades I can get, not exactly where to find everything in the game

[unkempt pine]

oh yeah i get what u mean

[vocal sky]

Each scream is a different phase

[fossil reef]

is this the same as the one in original?

[slim sedge]

real i used it the entire game, i tried all the other crests and just didn't like them as much lol

[frank seal]

theres 3, ||the scream is a phase change, when she falls in the floor is a phase change||

[worldly umbra]

@vocal skyoooh

[flint dust]

tbh try learning the attacks and how to dodge and punish, u have pretty good dtats for that boss, if u wanna cheese it, use architect eith op tools and op traps

[spiral pasture]

no

[slim sedge]

i decided i did not want to get used to diagonal pogo so i stuck with reaper

[drifting pier]

Which game do u think is easier silksong or hollow knight

[fossil reef]

alr

[earnest moat]

well then, go have your authentic experience. this chat is filled with spoilers

[vast raven]

Hollow Knight, no diff

[spiral pasture]

use needle strike on them btw

[raw hearth]

people shit on its slow attack speed = worse damage and silk gen

But sleep on its extended range being super helpful in speedy fights

[fossil reef]

i see this as im falling down the parkour to get to them

[flint dust]

no

[deft girder]

i need an explanation from the people saying lace became laces?

[quiet zephyr]

witch has range too though

[unkempt pine]

let them play the game how they want

[snow pebble]

yeah but I don't really have the time to just spend tons of hours on learning every boss pattern

[spiral pasture]

lmao

[proper shard]

wanderers crest is boring asl 😭✌️

[vast raven]

Reapers crest is good, it’s just bland (and that’s coming from someone who loves reapers crest almost as much as the witch one)

[deft girder]

WDYM SHE'S SHOES?

[raw hearth]

But the healing is hard in said speedy fights….

[slim sedge]

i hate how witch crest heals you gotta be near shit to heal

[proper shard]

just learn the telegraphs 🤧

[vast raven]

Also the heavy sucks

[grave rune]

see the picture i sent

[burnt patrol]

no, but they're similar
if you knock it's mask off, the eyes look the same as hk's mask maker

[worldly umbra]

wanderers crest + pin badge + needle art + flint slate + longclaw = destroyer of worlds

[deft girder]

does not grant me context

[snow pebble]

they can play the game however they want, I just am not going to use guides

[vast raven]

That’s my favorite part about the crest

[drifting pier]

I feel like silksong is easier because all the bosses I’ve fought so far have moves that are much more telegraphed than hk bosses

[slim sedge]

the only one i would consider learning is architect cause im almost always using silk to heal instead of for skills anyway lol

[tidal hearth]

Then you are playing a wrong game. Sometimes games are so hard, you are required to LEARN to play em.

[fossil reef]

yeah just noticed that rn

[pallid wagon]

Reaper’s crest allows you to punish Lace during most of her attacks