sk-discussion

[exotic field]

I’m trying to think who broke my heart the most. Probably little baby Stanley 😭🥺

[quick cedar]

Beeeeyatch

[tall scaffold]

BECAUSE I ASKED YOU A QUESTION

[safe quiver]

Fr but i just cant get past that stupid robot 😭🙏

[sonic elm]

Aight I'm ready. Replayed the whole thing in a day lol.

[coarse wave]

Proceed for a lifetime peace.

[sage heart]

Do it think of all the magic fly swords

[willow umbra]

it's even more fun to play co-op with a friend and perish dozens of times together

[junior citrus]

dear god bro have mercy on my poor poor wallet im sticking with the 4
rainworld dead cells nine sols and uh celeste

[unkempt wharf]

Also sad af

[exotic field]

Very. But very difficult. Rewarding, though.

[native canyon]

I'm sure the gif will be funnier the 100th fucking time you post it

[coarse wave]

I'm thinking of doing delicate flower because I go through my favourite parts of the map

[ruby girder]

yall think hades 2 is an indie? for me its more like AA game

[ember violet]

I still cant beat NKG and I have all pantheons left lol

[indigo eagle]

the only hit indie game i havent tried yet

[tall scaffold]

WHICH IS YOUR FAV HOLLOW KNIGHT MOD

[exotic field]

Celeste is also fantastic

[fiery burrow]

Pale Court sweeps

[worn reef]

damn I need to get cuphead

[quick cedar]

DONT LOSE YOUR WAYYY

[sage heart]

I mean hades was indie

[indigo eagle]

Pale Court

[coarse wave]

Cale pourt mod

[junior citrus]

the others arent?

[native canyon]

pale court is the easiest answer

[ember violet]

4 hours wasnt enough to beat NKG 🥀

[tall scaffold]

mine too

[safe phoenix]

To those who played the demo, two questions.
One; Other than the silk-heal and silk-circle, are there any other “permanent” upgrades (whether they’re attacks or things like C-dash or Mothwing cloak)
Two: are there any charms in this game, or are they gone and replaced by those “tool” things?

[wraith slate]

all peak games

[safe quiver]

Try killing all the enemies before carrying the flower. Its soo much better

[junior citrus]

the usurper

[ruby girder]

yes but, supergiant now its in fact a super giant company so

[sage heart]

The mod with truely primal aspid

[tall scaffold]

JOKES - LIGHTBRINGER

is my fav mod

[quick cedar]

Gamagoori

[native canyon]

me when i bringer the light idk

[willow umbra]

indie and AA starts crossing over when you're a big name studio like supergiant, but they're still very much indie

[sonic elm]

favourite mod as in the one I've used the most and had the most fun with... Randomizer 4 + HKMP + ItemSync. Favourite single player experience? Pale Court.

[full rune]

pale court sucks because zemer music sucks, the main menu music sucks, the music for hegemol arena sucks, mark of purity sucks, zemer is not balanced

[coarse wave]

Does this happen while carrying the flower? Because they used to just respawn after going into another room (might have using an old aassss patch)

[exotic field]

At this point sort of. The thing is, they did state they released it pre-done / early access to further fund development. So they’re still budget-limited and a small team. But kind of close to AA I suppose.

[junior citrus]

your face sucks

[indigo eagle]

the only indie games i havent played are Cuphead and rainworld

[atomic sparrow]

then go balance Zemer !!!!!!!

[exotic field]

They are all amazing in their own way.

[full rune]

nope

[willow umbra]

saving the hardest for last, I see

[quick cedar]

Our face sucks

[tall scaffold]

ZE'MER IS MY FAVORITE SONG!!!! IN PALE COURT!!! NOW IM ANGRY!!!

[safe quiver]

Soo there are some enemies that respawn when exiting a room but its only a few

[indigo eagle]

Rainworld is hard?

[still elm]

Silksong sucks because no game

[tall scaffold]

GRAAAHHH!!!

[indigo eagle]

Silksong is just codeslop

[native canyon]

oh god he's gonna post the gif again isn't he

[wraith slate]

yes

[exotic field]

Two very difficult games. I won’t lie. I raged off rain world 😂

[native canyon]

GOD DAMN IT

[junior citrus]

silksong is litteraly unlimited games but no games

[full rune]

can you not

[indigo eagle]

harder than HK? harder than P5 type of shi?

[native canyon]

silksong is releaseslop

[worn reef]

bruh

[sage heart]

Just mod the mod i have gained all my tech littreasy from modding

[tall scaffold]

GRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!

[coarse wave]

Ohh oh I got it thank you dude frfr

[willow umbra]

yeah, the crazy environment makes it a very trial-and-error style game

[native canyon]

weren't you asked to stop multiple time by mods

[exotic field]

PUT ME BACK

[sonic elm]

chances of getting this boss fight in silksong?

[safe quiver]

No need to thank me my guy

[indigo eagle]

the hardest game i played (most likely) is Dark Souls III

[sage heart]

Mods mute him

[still elm]

Silksong is probably gonna win the game award for best gameslop…

[wraith slate]

depends on how good you are at games, i wouldnt say its harder than P5 but it can be extremely hard in its own right

[shell bough]

this is getting tired

[sage heart]

Banish him

[safe phoenix]

Ok, honestly, this may just be a “skill issue” or whatever, but I hope that some of the tools have “unlimited ammo,” or at least make it so there’s an easy way to craft the stuff

[indigo eagle]

Please tell me there isn’t boss rushes

[coarse wave]

Punish their soul 🗿

[full rune]

the problem is whoever made the music for zemer does not know how to make music

[junior citrus]

AND SIR GIDEON OFNIR THE ALL KNOWING

[exotic field]

Are you playing or fr ? It’s just a gif 😭

[verbal trench]

rawr

[safe phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-even-funnier-the-second-time-spongebob-spongebob-meme-meme-impact-font-gif-20058612

(sarcasm)

[safe quiver]

Is it likely for silksong to win goty? I think it has a really good shot

[atomic sparrow]

then who does know how to make music

[native canyon]

were you aware of how many times he posted it?

[full rune]

john

[atomic sparrow]

oh

[native canyon]

like half of his messages were that gif

[indigo eagle]

Bro couldn’t hold it

[gaunt fulcrum]

theres a pretty high chance

[atomic sparrow]

John Music ?

[serene chasm]

Indies dont win goty

[exotic field]

Tbh yes. But there’s some big games coming as well. I think silk has a big shot tho. Such a huge and passionate community.

[native canyon]

john silksong is the best protagonist

[ruby girder]

i think ghe hype of expedition 33 win the goty

[wraith slate]

it does not, it is not a metroidvania, it tries to simulate an ecosystem and has no mercy on the player, but there are no boss fights or anything of the like

[junior citrus]

pretty sure they do

[sage heart]

Omg you know john music say hi for me to him

[next torrent]

riggeed

[atomic sparrow]

ok

[verbal trench]

i doubt silksong will get goty it'll probably be some other AAA game

[junior citrus]

im gonna go play hk now

[junior citrus]

sad

[shell bough]

have fun

[native canyon]

geoff keighley actually made e33 because he knew silksong would win goty otherwise

[fiery burrow]

Not like they deserve it

[gaunt fulcrum]

its rare but yeah they can

[exotic field]

There’s so much hype for silksong though, even triple As are delaying releases because of it

[fiery burrow]

what triple A game delayed

[indigo eagle]

If Black Ops 7 wins even one category in the game awards I will not have faith in the game awards ever

[safe phoenix]

Honestly, they’re lucky GTA6 isn’t coming out this year, that one would’ve swepted, mopped up, vacuumed, put it in a rubbish bag, and took the bin out to the curb

[native canyon]

silksong being nominated for goty would be enough I need to hear hollow knight music from that orchestra

[coarse wave]

Before silksong which spesific soundtrack from HK is your favourite? Mine was sealed vessel but the vocal one (i dont remember the name)

[gaunt fulcrum]

omg really?

[sage heart]

Let me guess you pirate indie games and buy tripple a with dlc

[tall gulch]

Kid named expedition 33

[ruby girder]

the only reason i like goty its because the orchesta of balatro

[wraith slate]

any game releasing in september will probably get obliterated by silksong

[fiery burrow]

Occasionally

[tall gulch]

I haven't even played it but everyone talks about that game like it's some sort of holy grail

[gaunt fulcrum]

fr

[indigo eagle]

No hes just a ragebaiter

[ruby girder]

and october

[sage heart]

I know its a joke i stole

[wraith slate]

i fully believe that steam is going to strougle with everyone trying to buy silksong

[native canyon]

for me it was balatro and in 2022 the xenoblade 3 segment

[exotic field]

Sorry. It was other indie game devs. Not triple A.

[quick cedar]

I pirate indie games only

[full karma]

how much yall think silksong will cost

[native canyon]

1 dollar

[sage heart]

2 dolla

[quick cedar]

3 dollar

[safe quiver]

I just love greenpath. I heard that track so often online long before playing hollow kngiht. And after hearing the song in game that was like such a big moment for me. Greenpath just makes me nostalgic in a way

[native canyon]

would you rather have 1 silksong or 2 silksong

[ruby girder]

i dont see 2022 goty

[gaunt fulcrum]

4 dollar

[indigo eagle]

the elden ring 2022 bil clinton game awards incident

[quick cedar]

1st is the worst so

[unkempt wharf]

Don't think so, it will be nominated to sell the idea that an indie game could win just for another triple AAA company to win the prize

[quick cedar]

2nd is the best

[verbal trench]

$25. this is definitely a guess and not an educated assumption from learned info

[coarse wave]

I mean like if it's too expensive I'm watching someone play and wait for discounts

[safe quiver]

🥀

[exotic field]

30 Canadian 🇨🇦

[willow umbra]

there was an Indie Game Awards last december (Balatro won) so hopefully we'll see another instalment of that in 4 months

[sage heart]

I think we should make our own game awards that are NOT rigged

[verbal trench]

balatro goated

[native canyon]

RAAA I LOVE BALATRO

[willow umbra]

I really want to play balatro later 🃏

[unkempt wharf]

The Indie Awards

[exotic field]

Watch Elden Ring 2 randomly come out same time as silksong to rig the awards

[verbal trench]

remember that one time a game got nominated for indie goty despite not being an indie game

[native canyon]

elden ring 2 comes out and doesn't win because of e33

[willow umbra]

The Independawards

[safe quiver]

Elden ring 2?!

[sage heart]

No?

[serene chasm]

Death Stranding 2 will win the Game awards goty cause Geoff is in love with Kojima

[native canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/e3-peggle-jump-two-gif-13350703

[umbral ether]

what game

[exotic field]

God, I forgot about Death stranding 2

[safe quiver]

🤯🤯

[willow umbra]

if half life 3 ever comes out, it could technically win an indie game award

[opaque sigil]

He loved e33 enough to get them on stage at gamescom

[exotic field]

I can admit objectively it was a good game, it just wasn’t my thing.

[unkempt wharf]

Dave the Diver?

[native canyon]

valve is a small indie company

[umbral ether]

isn't that a indie game

[sage heart]

Jokes on you gabe cant count that high

[willow umbra]

miniscule indie studio 🤏

[umbral ether]

or was it made by nexon

[exotic field]

Another fantastic game.

[junior citrus]

i just cant afford to play all these lmao

[exotic field]

Y’all should play Dave the diver. So good

Hot peppaaaa tunaaaaa

[verbal trench]

i dont remember what the game was (because i didnt care enough to remember the name) but a game was nominated despite the devs saying they weren't indie and geoff doubled down defending it was an indie game, saw people yapping abt it on twitter

[native canyon]

alright I've delayed this long enough it's time to play hollow knight for the first time ever

[sage heart]

I play most of my games from ps plus and xbox game pass ngl

[exotic field]

Hot peppppa tuna

[safe phoenix]

Dave the Diver?

[verbal trench]

this was like a year or two ago so iunno

[junior citrus]

anyways im gonna play hk and then maybe some stardew i havent played that in a whiiiile

[native canyon]

guys I'm just getting into hollow knight for the first time I killed the nailsmith because he asked me to did i do something wrong?

[umbral ether]

i think it is dave the diver

[sage heart]

With nail?

[umbral ether]

beacuse that dave the diver won in 2023

[obtuse marsh]

you missed an achievement but that’s about all

[shell bough]

wait isn't tga like 50% fan voted or is the fan vote percentage smaller?

[exotic field]

You’re supposed to get a manicure…

[umbral ether]

and

[rich haven]

A relative of mine worked on Dave the diver, Nolan King. His name is in the opening credits

[safe quiver]

Silksong will be such massive step up from Hollowknight considering it was rushed and unfinished in a way. Plus team cherry now has all the experience from hollow knight and all that money.

[native canyon]

i think it's like 10% i remember seeing that number thrown out a few years ago

maybe it changed

[exotic field]

Hot peppaaa tuna

[verbal trench]

yeah i think it mightve been dave the diver, looks familiar

[umbral ether]

dave the diver was made by nexon right?

[shell bough]

that's so insignificant lol

[native canyon]

whew that's good I'd hate to have missed gay people

[obtuse marsh]

pretty sure the team who made dave the diver is a branch of nexon, why is why people thought it was indie

[rich haven]

That sounds right

[south bison]

DAILY SILKSONG NEWS IS QUITTING NOOOO

[obtuse marsh]

wait why

[willow umbra]

yeah, a subsidiary of Nexon called Mintrocket

[gray parcel]

How horrible

[safe quiver]

Is he?

[umbral ether]

ah

[sage heart]

Let him rest at last

[shell bough]

who said that

[gray parcel]

Someone who clearly didnt enjoy it is quitting

[native canyon]

well there's not much daily silksong news from now on is there

[obtuse marsh]

bro really waited for it to come out and is quitting now

[sage heart]

He has lost his mind

[exotic field]

If they didn’t nominate themselves then it’s not their fault tho? No?

[south bison]

he said there will be no more uploads after release

[obtuse marsh]

he has all the content he could ever want

[shell bough]

ok who is starting daily silksong dlc news now?

[south bison]

wdym he might have enjoyed it

[native canyon]

daily silksong 2 news

[south bison]

https://x.com/DailySilksong/status/1959721337137537160

Daily Silksong News (@DailySilksong)

Thankfully you won't have to unsubscribe from DSN because there won't be any more uploads after September 4th

X · Aug 24, 2025, 8:55 PM

[gray parcel]

It literally became a chore

[willow umbra]

daily zoteboat rumors

[obtuse marsh]

hollow knight 3 news someone get on it

[exotic field]

Silksong is cancelled. It will now be Attack on Grubbies

[shell bough]

why i lowk feel like this is a lie

[safe quiver]

He could also do daily silksong news but with news after release like glitches, eastereggs etc.

[gray parcel]

Waking up every day just so some people could maybe know silksong was coming out

[oak wyvern]

i feel like the discord should be renamed at some point

[native canyon]

daily silksong news is unironically like the tf hype guy for the hollow knight community

[rich haven]

There he is, I believe he's my second cousin

[shell bough]

team cherry is gonna provide updates to the game post release why would he do that

[native canyon]

team cherry is daily silksong news now

[obtuse marsh]

is he one of the devs in the minigame on the phone at the end? 😭

[worn reef]

tc lol?

[normal token]

Been subscribed since day 1 I'm glad to see it end 🙏

[unkempt wharf]

What's the chance for a God seekers DLC?

[native canyon]

0%

[safe quiver]

Lifes gonna feel empty when theres nothing to cope for 😣

[rich haven]

I don't know I haven't finished the game. But he's in the opening credits on the plane (his name is last, rip)

[sage heart]

"Unfortunately we had to have cancel the release because ari got killed by a commicly large spider and died because he got killed by a giant spider"-team apple

[exotic field]

When gta 6 comes out we can go back to dying

[native canyon]

these people don't want silksong they want to endlessly ask when silksong

[inland furnace]

Silksong's announcement brought me back to Hollow Knight
Now I'm speesrunning getting all the achievements and beating all challenges that I can before the fated day

[umbral ether]

cope for slay the spire 2

[native canyon]

seal

[shell bough]

you're so real for that

[exotic field]

Modding or vanilla

[obtuse marsh]

that’s cool. when you finish the game, as a tribute, the devs made pixel arts of themselves in a pixel mobile game that you can shoot and if you get all of them you get an achievo

[coarse leaf]

Wait dsn quitting on sep 4th??????

[safe quiver]

Sometimes pain is the only thing making you feel alive... 💔

[sage heart]

Yeah

[umbral ether]

do we know when it is coming out

[inland furnace]

Had to make a new save file because my wanderlust ass couldn't get the first ending first before getting void heart

[shell bough]

fearless fox is right there

[willow umbra]

maybe we'll still get questions about preorders after release

[mild sandal]

Hey, its eriond on another account... im new here and didn't read the rules at first, when i went back to read i realised i shouldn't have been spamming. im sorry... 😭

[native canyon]

get outta hereeee

[sage heart]

Ban evasion?????

[umbral ether]

ban evading is against the rules

[obtuse marsh]

not the admitting to ban evasion

[mild sandal]

okay bye

[obtuse marsh]

silly billy

[umbral ether]

foolish

[exotic field]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1409292479940792462/gif.gif

[rich haven]

Respectable, have a nice day

[south bison]

guys whats gonna happen at zero? 😨

[inland furnace]

Vanilla obviously

I'm a pretty new fan

[native canyon]

we all die

[sage heart]

Silksong gets delayed

[shell bough]

the way you're prompted to the rules channel about 3 times once you join the server- you had no excuse

[inland furnace]

Got into the game last year because of a friend

[obtuse marsh]

imagine

[oak wyvern]

the game gets deleted

[gray parcel]

Its funnier the 1,367,893rd time

[rich haven]

Let the guy go gracefully, he was respectful and quick

[obtuse marsh]

“thank you for the wonderful input into our social experiment”

[shell bough]

sun is gonna explode

[exotic field]

Sept 4 they announce it’s another 4 years

[obtuse marsh]

😭 😭

[native canyon]

me finding out the sun is gonna explode in like 8 billion years

[sage heart]

Anyway say hi to this little gal

[obtuse marsh]

5 year old me was devastated

[umbral ether]

some guys usernam is a countdown to that

[inland furnace]

My God I love this so much🤣

[shell bough]

now i feel bad

[exotic field]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-slap-fast-die-silksong-gif-11906425766064942386

[rich haven]

It's all good, not like he was here to read it

[native canyon]

my first introduction into existentialism...

[obtuse marsh]

prob a kid or something just didn’t know any better. it happens

[shell bough]

lmao

[rich haven]

We need an edit of the hornet and nuu scene where she actually kills it

[native canyon]

silksong leaked ending

[willow umbra]

the era of pushing grubs is over. return to grub salvation

[sage heart]

On it

[native canyon]

hornet kills nuu

[willow umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hk-grub-worm-dance-gif-13699266172877099889

[rich haven]

Possibly with her needle, possibly with a gun

[left hedge]

I don't break out grubs but only grub mimics

[obtuse marsh]

i like the gun idea more

[south bison]

SHAW

[obtuse marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gun-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-eyebrowns-gif-18404585

[willow umbra]

now that's just cruising for a bruising

[exotic field]

In silksong you have to collect grub daddies to help the grubs

[rich haven]

If nuu was like, a big burly intimidating bug man, people would hate him and call him a creep, but since it's small and snail-like people just go "awww"

[shell bough]

yippee!!

[exotic field]

FLOPPA

[obtuse marsh]

oh to be a grub in a jar

[exotic field]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1409292479940792462/gif.gif

[native canyon]

grubs and fleas are kinda the autism creature if you think about it

[willow umbra]

they truly are

[safe quiver]

What are your wishes for silksong? One of mine is more area changes like forgotten crossroads to infected crossroads. Maybe they could even open up new paths and reveal new npcs and items

[obtuse marsh]

i didn’t mind infected but HATED how much it blocked off

[native canyon]

my biggest wish is lacenet wedding

[left hedge]

Huh

[rich haven]

We see a ton of chase sequences, I assume those permanently affect areas

[river ivy]

pantheons or a version of it

[wanton sky]

More Deepnest-like areas

[shell bough]

for it to be greater and better than hk which it already is gonna be so my wish is granted thank you

[native canyon]

what did i say something strange

[left hedge]

We will get boss rushes but no more godhome

[exotic field]

Did you even play the game lol

[rich haven]

No he's right, blocking off the paths is painful

[native canyon]

infected crossroads blocked off 2 pretty big entrances yeah

[willow umbra]

I think box shades means bouncy little goobs who spend all day vibing

[rich haven]

Wait a second....

[safe quiver]

Nice i think infected crossroads was one of my biggest wow moment. Like to see that again

[exotic field]

You’re right, Moon

[native canyon]

that's what autism is at the end of the day

[vivid reef]

Holy shit

[obtuse marsh]

[vivid reef]

THE ORACLE

[safe quiver]

I hope not because im not a fan of it. But id be happy for you if they do that

[safe quiver]

Fax

[rich haven]

I want skong to have random events to spice up gameplay, things like coordinated assaults and even bosses or enemy groups that move between rooms

[native canyon]

yo guys september 4th 2024 predicted silksong's release on september 4th 2025

[obtuse marsh]

deepnest 💔

[shell bough]

i wonder if there will be any references to other games/indies in silksong

[native canyon]

MADELINE CELESTE IN SILKSONG!!!

[willow umbra]

I think there might be a few hollow knight references

[rich haven]

Almost certainly, looking at HK

[shell bough]

[exotic field]

A homage to dark souls would be dope

[tall gulch]

My biggest wish is for the combat to be balanced lol

[obtuse marsh]

do you guys think it’ll be easier or harder than the first?

[native canyon]

nah that's absurd

[exotic field]

Harder

[native canyon]

I hope it's harder

[willow umbra]

naw, finding ways to break the game's balance is part of the fun

[safe quiver]

I hope they give us the ability to refight bosses again too. But i hope its not gonna be like the pantheons again

[odd bridge]

probably weird thing to say but I wish there was a way to pre order silksong since the second it comes out its gonna be deltarune all over again with steam having issues maybe we could even get a retro hornet skin or something

[native canyon]

I want to be crying at the end of this game

[tall gulch]

About the same difficulty curve but with a higher ceiling

[opaque sigil]

It’s meant to be about the same

[south bison]

my biggest silksong fear is based around having to "restock" on abilities at benches, cause that really sucked in hk

[obtuse marsh]

i wonder how they could do it without ruining the canon of the story

bosses coming back to life etc

[native canyon]

hornet is a pacifist she won't kill any bosses

[exotic field]

You think there will be different collectibles ?

[south bison]

what do you guys thgink

[warped quarry]

Slice it and see if you can shoot out a milk blast

[safe phoenix]

Well there’s seemingly ammo with the tools, I think that’s replenished via silk though (I hope)

[safe quiver]

Probably like a dream like in hollow knight or another multiverse

[vivid reef]

What

[native canyon]

I really don't give a shit about that stuff it's like a minor nitpick to me

[coral abyss]

Is it confirmed to be on the Switch 💔 (not Switch 2)

[opaque sigil]

They replenish at benches

[obtuse marsh]

i liked that aspect. very dark souls like. makes it difficult and stressful because you “just have to make it to that next bench”

[native canyon]

yeah

[safe quiver]

Its confirmed for both ❤️

[south bison]

thats what im scared about (i hate resource management when its handled like that)

[coral abyss]

REALLY??? THANK GOD

[exotic field]

Just make it a reflection of power similar to Sekiro maybe. Elden Ring needed that so badly

[willow umbra]

yup! they double-confirmed a switch 1 release way back in april too

[velvet python]

Hi guys i beat hollow knight twice in 112%

[safe quiver]

Tuff

[native canyon]

quick someone force me to get off my ass and do absrad radiant attempts

[obtuse marsh]

hell yea

[safe phoenix]

Oh no, can you replenish it any other way?

[calm cargo]

Only twice?

[coral abyss]

I dont think the price has been revealed right

[exotic field]

Switch 1 should run a metroidvania fine

[opaque sigil]

Does not seem like it

[rich haven]

They should add like a hall of hieroglyphs that depict a winged strawberry, the delta rune, a soul, stygius blade of the underworld, a shovel, a frying pan, a filth, and other such things

[sick lynx]

im actively trying to 112% it

[supple widget]

We've seen that it replinshes by using shell shards at benches

[native canyon]

they should add gaster

[obtuse marsh]

112%

[native canyon]

who's ready for gaster????

[rich haven]

I'm just concerned about having to grind for shell shards between boss attempts

[odd bridge]

why is it that games that don't need pre order have it but games which should have pre ordering won't let you pre order them

[velvet python]

After that, hollow Knight become my new favourite Game sorry for my english Im spanish

[willow umbra]

if it can play the latest two zelda games, then I imagine silksong will be breakfast

[high cosmos]

no

[rich haven]

Gaster is gonna be so cool, I'm hoping for a Susie-only gaster boss fight where we get to use her SOUL

[cunning geode]

depends on which companies want money sooner

[native canyon]

this game does not need preordering dude it releases in 11 days

[safe phoenix]

The currency? Well that’s going to suck, I just hope that you can increase the amount you can store or have some way of infinite ammo or something

[high cosmos]

zelda was optimized for switch though

[coarse wave]

I want someone to sit down in a calm place, like a cafe or something, or my house, or their house, wherever, and explain me the WHOLE FNAF lore

[safe quiver]

Maybe the final boss is called silksong. Just like how the hollow knight is the final boss of hollow knight

[rich haven]

Wrong game

[supple widget]

I doubt it cuz you get so many from random enemies and there's also like, big bundles of them you can keep stored on you so they don't get lost after dying

[native canyon]

gaster is actually matpat

[rich haven]

Gaster is Undertale/Dt

[exotic field]

What if it’s hollow knight running away/leading you this time in silksong

[odd bridge]

What I mean is that steam might have a lot of issues due to everyone buying silksong at the same time just like with deltarune

[native canyon]

gaster is g-man from half-life

[high cosmos]

there was the bite of 87, then nothing

[indigo eagle]

cant wait for gaster to appear in Silksong

[wraith slate]

in the trailers and demo footage it looks super cheap, like only 24 to fully repair that throwable tool

[coral abyss]

And it sings

[native canyon]

yeah that wouldn't change if they had preorders

[rich haven]

But like, I use a ton of tool charges against a boss and die, I spawn back at the bench and my tools are 3/4ths broken, what's the deal

[exotic field]

Were there a lot of stutters for TotK?

[supple widget]

I'd imagine upgrades make you have bigger pockets or make it cheaper to craft tools again

[native canyon]

not everyone would preorder a ton of people would just wait because again it's only 11 fucking days

[high cosmos]

I mean, gaster is just a manifestation of toby fox allegorically, we are probably gonna meet him tho

[supple widget]

Hmm

[vivid belfry]

there were less than in botw for sure

[rich haven]

Im hoping for a crest or tool that increases tool usage

[exotic field]

Why are you always so hostile

[indigo eagle]

totk and botw so peak

[supple widget]

Good point, I don't really know I guess?

[safe quiver]

Probably not because the knight cannonically dies or gets sealed after every ending

[willow umbra]

I'm not sure, I haven't played totk

[rich haven]

Preorders would keep steam from crashing though

[high cosmos]

Theyre correct tho

[exotic field]

Botw was disastrous performance-wise.

[vivid belfry]

we've already gotten a confirmed dedicated upgrade for red tool damage, that might also be the case for capacity

[coral abyss]

Still feels fake honestly 😭 cant believe we are actually getting it this soon (and that Im broke right when its happening 🔥)

[high cosmos]

though steam exists

[supple widget]

Just gotta trust they've balanced it

[native canyon]

I can't help it I've always talked like this I'm sorry for sounding like a dick lmao

[high cosmos]

huh? No it ran great wdym

[void moat]

trying to draw sharpe is a miserable experience

[exotic field]

I mean like a ghost or whatever

[safe phoenix]

Honestly, I don’t really mind if it’s limited, just hope there’s a way to craft more away from a bench

[opaque sigil]

When was that

[high cosmos]

minor stutters at worst

[river ivy]

which boss that they have shown looks the must fun to u guys

[vivid belfry]

forge daughter sells it

[rich haven]

I wouldn't call the crafting kit "confirmed for damage", I think it will let you literally craft more tools or maybe upgrade the ones you already have

[vivid belfry]

the crafting kit

[high cosmos]

sans undertale

[native canyon]

all of them

[shell bough]

brace yourselves everyone bc i just made a shocking discovery

[vivid belfry]

it literally says it makes tools deadlier

[exotic field]

Not for me :(

[native canyon]

HOLY SHIT?!!

[rich haven]

I was imaging a yellow tool that upon equipping buffs your active tools

[high cosmos]

sorry, wrong game, i mean the knight

[obtuse marsh]

no way….

[high cosmos]

damn

[supple widget]

I'd guess you wouldn't really tend to run out between benches since they either have a lot of charges or are more useful against stronger enemies

[willow umbra]

hollow knight IN silksong?? no way

[cunning geode]

no no, she talks like Yoda.
“It makes tools; deadlier!”

[left hedge]

The final boss is The Hollow Knight Silksong

[opaque sigil]

I guess, I’m not sure the description is that clear

[void moat]

the last judge and seth seem fun, aswell as the steel trio, though we dont know if theyll be full on bosses i dont think

[shell bough]

wait your mind...

[coral abyss]

Guys this is clearly edited

[obtuse marsh]

hornet confirmed in hollow knight

[odd bridge]

since we fought the hollow knight at the end of the game and then radiance are we gonna fight the silk song and after it darkness?

[supple widget]

And also if you can craft more at any point then it makes the limit between benches pointless

[high cosmos]

”together, we’re a hollow knight, too!”

[native canyon]

yes

[shell bough]

ugh you got me

[safe phoenix]

Here I am not using them at all during gameplay because “I might need then later”

[willow umbra]

whew, thanks. I suspected it was a hollowpost

[glacial niche]

i didn't consider the fact that it if it is still called hollow knight then would pharloom have some relation to the vessels or something similar

[coral abyss]

Smh my head I wont fall for your lies

[supple widget]

Yeah I get that

[exotic field]

You should. It’s a step up from botw imo, but I have an extremely hot take. I didn’t enjoy botw that much. Still finished it and everything. I just wished it was a more authentic Zelda experience. But I also know they can’t do the same thing forever 😔

[opaque sigil]

no

[high cosmos]

it likely wont

[shell bough]

[obtuse marsh]

SHAW

[safe quiver]

HEGALE

[supple widget]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see and not judge a game we've not played

[exotic field]

[vivid belfry]

to me the actual most important part is "crafting by claw alone produces inferior results"

[high cosmos]

who up silking their song rn?

[native canyon]

botw is better because totk dungeons are somehow worse

[wraith slate]

EDIDO

[obtuse marsh]

AYO???

[rich haven]

I see no reason why this is an upgrade that passively buffs red tool damage, I think it just lets you craft more things

[terse scarab]

GARANA

[glacial niche]

reckon pharloom is the product of another wyrm?

[high cosmos]

GIT GUD

[odd bridge]

hornet walks up to zote at the end of game and says "we are on the same boat zote" then credits roll and then "Hollow knight the zoteboat dlc coming soon" and then crowd goes wild

[safe quiver]

Ive been silking it for ages

[wooden echo]

But I think the real question is (and always has been)

are you silk'in yo song, or song'in yo silk?

[safe quiver]

Adeenoo

[obtuse marsh]

who up silking they song 🥀 💔

[willow umbra]

yeah I'd probably love it. I might play it on the switch 2 sometime where it can breathe more easily

[high cosmos]

unironically peak writing

[terse scarab]

Those are not expensive at all

[high cosmos]

me

[vivid belfry]

okay but why is the red tool you craft in this screenshot a dedicated slot in her shop then

[exotic field]

I hope everything is okay

[obtuse marsh]

stop giving them ideas

you gotta ask for a payout at least

[rich haven]

The spikes? You buy that tool to unlock it, then you can use it and repair it with shell shards like any other

[high cosmos]

My favourite line is “sybau sdiybt fr fr”

[opaque sigil]

? It’s the recipe I’m not sure why this would be a n issue

[limber jungle]

“by crafting claw alone” does this imply that hornet is an idiot who doesn’t use her needle with creating tools

[wet valley]

Did anyone screen record the moment the release date was announced, genuinely curious LMAO

[rich haven]

It's like a charm, it's a permanent thing not a consumable

[vivid belfry]

okay so if you buy the tool to unlock it, what does buying the crafting kit unlock

[odd bridge]

they should atleast give me free silksong for this idea since it will be probably most expensive for my currency

[obtuse marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/sdiybt-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-mocking-rottedskullz-gif-18139964051835477242

[rich haven]

Let's you craft more of your own tools. There are tools you buy and tools you craft

[opaque sigil]

The crafting kit being a damage upgrade would make sense but it’s possible that it’s like a prerequisite for other tools or something (even if that would be incredibly strange)

[exotic field]

Yes. I saw it somewhere but I can’t remember

[willow umbra]

me? I'm totally fine

[vivid belfry]

this is not correct

[rich haven]

Why wouldn't it be, that's normal game design. Played elden ring?

This is all theoretical anyway I'm not stating facts

[limber jungle]

strange? I thought it would be obvious what

[vivid belfry]

you can tell that the sting shard is permanently added to your crafting repertoire because it requires a limited resource

[rich haven]

I don't know why the crafting kit would just be a damage upgrade

[terse scarab]

Did anyone noticed that in the demo gameplay that Nintendo showed years ago hornet doesn’t have a downward slash but they probably added that feature as they didn’t run out of ideas

[vivid belfry]

it's put on equal terms with the magma bell, which is a passive item

[rich haven]

I assume the crafting kit literally lets you craft more things

[limber jungle]

you get an entire kit for crafting new tools, I think it would be very obvious that you could make new weapons with said kit

[vivid belfry]

you're not buying one batch of sting shards, you're buying the ability to craft them at benches

[exotic field]

I heard silksong is going to be an open world survival craft with grub guns

[vivid belfry]

okay but what weapons though

[unkempt burrow]

silk

[opaque sigil]

A merchant selling something to expand their inventory is a little weird

[rich haven]

Tools are just charms you have to recharge

[vivid belfry]

why would it not tell you what weapons you're unlocking

[safe quiver]

What is yalls favorite Hornet line? Mine is "Troshi Kaleemo"

[rich haven]

To keep the mystery alive????

[left hedge]

Tools are spells you have to recharge

[opaque sigil]

Well it would unlock multiple things

[unkempt burrow]

Speaking of are there charms or is it other passives

[rich haven]

Why doesn't salubra tell you what her charm does?

[obtuse marsh]

they didn’t tell you abilities the knight received

[willow umbra]

yeah, I thought I remembered struggling to aim downward attacks on the 2019 demo

[obtuse marsh]

i think it’s for the charm of not knowing

[opaque sigil]

It would be a requisite to acquire or use tools of a certain strength, which would be very strange but I’d say is a valid way to interpret the description

[plain dagger]

Silksong literally next week now!
Incredible!

[vivid belfry]

I mean it's valid by technicality but it's a lot more of a stretch than just assuming it's a damage upgrade

[rich haven]

I assume tools work similarly to charms, you can find them, buy them, and make them yourself. Tools with limited uses (red tools, maybe the others) need to be refreshed with shell shards at a bench

[obtuse marsh]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[rich haven]

I think crafting kit just unlocks more recipes

[safe quiver]

Im so hyped for tool symergies

[rich haven]

Yessssss

[exotic field]

What’s the lore behind grub daddy? How did that neglectful mf lose all those bitches

[unkempt burrow]

Intresting

[plain dagger]

Haha yes, wahoo!
Thats me! Yeah!

[rich haven]

Cause a being of pure void kidnapped them

[wraith slate]

the collector

[safe quiver]

The collecter kidnapped them i think

[terse scarab]

But they look way complicated to use

[rich haven]

Collectors got hands, grubfather is far and slow

[safe phoenix]

I was thinking that it allows you to craft the tools at benches

[willow umbra]

this works so well lmao

[vivid belfry]

I just am not buying that an item with such incongruity with the crafting recipe directly above it is related to crafting recipes

[exotic field]

But I thought the collector only takes one of each species, why would all of them be gone

[obtuse marsh]

collector is sick. wish he was a harder boss fight

[rich haven]

Not really, red tools work as active items from holding a input and pressing a button, and yellow and blue look passive

[unkempt burrow]

It use to say Friday it’s an old meme I repurposed

[opaque sigil]

Sure I agree I just wouldn’t call it confirmed that’s what caught me off guard

[vivid belfry]

more expensive in terms of rosary beads but no requirement for the ore that goes into the actual tools?

[obtuse marsh]

dude …. ban him

that’s unacceptable. where is her decency

[plain dagger]

What the hell, wheres that from??

[rich haven]

I think I'm misunderstanding what you mean, I'm assuming the sting ball or whatever it's called is a tool you can buy to use for the rest of the game. The crafting kit allows you to craft more kinds of tools by yourself with the resources you find. What is it you're thinking?

[odd bridge]

I honestly wish they made him more than just jars with enemies falling and jumping guy also giving him a creepier voice would be cool

[limber jungle]

I have no idea actually I just saw it posted somewhere and I thought it was funny

[vivid belfry]

why do you say these like they're two different things

[opaque sigil]

I also don’t think this is a compelling argument because the idea being entertained isn’t that it is itself a crafting recipe

[vivid belfry]

the sting shard is a recipe you unlock and can replenish with shell shards

[obtuse marsh]

he’d be up there with my favorites if he was more challenging. love him aesthetically

[obtuse marsh]

but just a glorified tdm at the end of the day sadly

[exotic field]

You ain’t even finish the game then lil bro 😭

[obtuse marsh]

sorry, not team lol but you know what i mean

[vivid belfry]

are they saying you need to buy this item to use crafting recipes you find elsewhere?

[opaque sigil]

I think what’s being stipulated is not that the crafting kit is a recipe but that it’s required to use some recipes

[vivid belfry]

that sounds like ass

[opaque sigil]

Which would be incredibly bizarre

[plain dagger]

Oh okay then, i would assume it's not official, even if it looks decently well made

[obtuse marsh]

naked hornet

[opaque sigil]

Yes

[obtuse marsh]

[lament eagle]

Mettamix what are u doing here

[exotic field]

My fave boss is grub daddy I been playing since 2012 -Sab

[safe phoenix]

I was thinking you need it to craft period, or at least get an upgrade for it

[rich haven]

I think recipes and tools are different things. The sting shard is a single tool, despite technically being a projectile you throw and use up. It has a limited amount of uses, which you can use shell shards to replenish. RECIPES are literal recipes you use to craft new permanent tools, or perhaps upgrade your old ones

[opaque sigil]

Sure it could be used as an upgrade material for tools or something

[vivid belfry]

this is suggesting a mechanic that has never been shown off anywhere

[odd bridge]

also im gonna say this now but hk character look way better than most ss characters even before playing hk when I saw steam trading cards I really enjoyed designs of characters depicted on them and with silksong they look cool but not as cool as hk ones

[unkempt burrow]

I love this shot of hornet flying it’s so beautiful

[exotic field]

https://tenor.com/view/grubfather-hollow-knight-grub-gif-27232457

[opaque sigil]

It being a damage upgrade also makes plenty of sense though and is a bit less of a conceptual leap

[limber jungle]

I think the crafting kit suggests that there will be crafting in silksong

[rich haven]

They say constantly that hornet can craft or make stuff or something, they talked about hornet learning things from her enemies, I assume she can craft their tools using materials recovered from them

[unkempt burrow]

woah

[rich haven]

This aswell

[vivid belfry]

crafting is what happens when hornet replenishes her red tools

[rich haven]

No that's repairing

[clever helm]

I'd wait for the game to release before making assumptions

[shell bough]

i can't wait to explore coral forest

[vivid belfry]

this language has been used consistently to describe turning shell shards into usable items on benches

[unkempt burrow]

Hornet can drop tacks which is pretty cool

[exotic field]

How old are you

[rich haven]

Crafting is making a new kind of tool to have for the rest of the game

[obtuse marsh]

[exotic field]

It’s me

[vivid belfry]

you don't repair throwable items that break on impact

[limber jungle]

among…….

[vivid belfry]

you craft new ones

[opaque sigil]

It also just makes sense since the tools are often thrown implements, they don’t break they run out

[exotic field]

[unkempt burrow]

If I have to repair tools in Silksong ima tweak out

[rich haven]

You're replenishing the charges of the tool. Silksong is a video game, a set of throwable items can be called a tool and then used up and "repaired" to be replenished

[vivid belfry]

okay but you made that up

[unkempt burrow]

Now this is epic

[rich haven]

I didn't?????

[unkempt burrow]

Cooldowns are in the trailer 😭😭😭

[plush mantle]

Silksong but my song silks everywhere

[vivid belfry]

it's not how the game has been talked about in advertising

[obtuse marsh]

uh oh

[odd bridge]

probably yeah but just from first impressions I enjoyed soul master and lost kin designs instantly while some of silk song ones don't look as good ||steel assasins|| and lace designs are pretty well made

[obtuse marsh]

awkward….

[exotic field]

They more than likely won’t remove that mechanic lil chopper

[vivid belfry]

"can be" doesn't mean "is" or even "likely is"

it's a hypothetical

[unkempt burrow]

😞

[rich haven]

I am unwilling to do research to defend, I have better things to do with my time, but I am certain that you use shell shards to replenish uses of tools, and that crafting is a different system that is used to make brand new kinds of tools, which can then be replenished with shards when used

[obtuse marsh]

boku wah doctahhhh

[unkempt burrow]

Tony Tony choper

[obtuse marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-tony-chopper-one-piece-chair-spinning-spinning-chair-gif-16214218266928150858

[foggy heath]

Silkmungus???

[vivid belfry]

"I am unwilling to do research to defend" is not the signoff you want to use when you're sure of your argument

[clever helm]

thats fine, but I doubt you'll have the same opinion once you've played through the game lol

[opaque sigil]

People picking random hills to die on for no reason is always funny

[heady iron]

Silksong should have botw weapon durability

[exotic field]

Where did you get dat grub

[unkempt burrow]

Watch the trailer cooldowns and crafting are different

[plush mantle]

Say I’m gay if your watching hornet and lace play together

[obtuse marsh]

i am loud, misinformed, and proud, in other words

[vivid belfry]

we are not having the conversation you think we're having

[opaque sigil]

There’s no cooldown

[vivid belfry]

I'm aware that red tools have limited uses

[unkempt burrow]

What are yall yapping about then

[foggy heath]

I’m just excited to see the whole map and the beautiful areas

[odd bridge]

probably yes

[plain dagger]

So true, thats why I'm never picking a hill!
I will never die!

[obtuse marsh]

no kidding, they were COOKING with that world building

[opaque sigil]

Hornet has a certain number of tools, she uses those tools, and can run out. She then at benches crafts more

[south bison]

is 117h for my hollow knight 112% run good

[rich haven]

https://youtube.com/shorts/mEFepS8toQI?si=IaDKygZP6nok7rtF this explains my idea nicely, my only difference is that I think hornet can do crafting herself, and more NPCs than forge daughter can make her unique tools as well

[foggy heath]

That they are

[obtuse marsh]

took me like 240hrs to get 113% w all achievements

so yes

[south bison]

how did you get 113

[obtuse marsh]

sorry, 112%

[vivid belfry]

apparently the idea that crafting tools isn't related to hornet crafting red tools on benches and is instead some kind of in-built vendor for new items that has been absent from all shown silksong footage

[opaque sigil]

Now there’s a POSSIBILITY that you can upgrade tools, in which case the crafting kit COULD be for that

[wraith slate]

and the fact we have only seen like half the map aswell

[foggy heath]

Probably just a quarter

[plain dagger]

I wonder if this game will have over 200 enemies, and over 40 bosses.
Hmm

[unkempt burrow]

I think anything can happen personally

[vivid belfry]

It's the easiest explanation not only for what the crafting kit is used for, but how tools are supposed to scale into the lategame

[opaque sigil]

I wouldn’t say the crafting kit is definitively a damage upgrade but it’s absolutely consistent with that and I would sure like it to be

[rich haven]

I think hornet can use shell shards to repair red tools on a bench, and while on a bench she can use a crafting menu to make new kinds of tools, the crafting menu is expanded by the crafting kit and perhaps other unlocks and recipes

[wraith slate]

i would consider this pretty good for my first playthrough in 3 years

[unique shore]

Do yall think ss gonna be harder than hk

[opaque sigil]

The fact that you get the crafting kit so early on is strange if it’s a damage upgrade

[wraith slate]

most definitely imo

[rich haven]

There could also easily be a pale-ore like item that upgrades tool damage specifically, maybe even from the same person who upgraded your needle

[vivid belfry]

what would be the advantage of having this hypothetical crafting menu where you buy access to it instead of just buying the same things from the same vendor that sells the hypothetical crafting recipe

[unkempt burrow]

Definitely

[unique shore]

Welp 🥲🤣

[vivid belfry]

it seems like an unnecessary abstraction

[shell bough]

depends on your playing style but i think it will objectively be slightly more difficult

[opaque sigil]

I agree that it’s silly however tc also made you buy a quill

[coral jacinth]

Consider how many binds there are gonna be

[unkempt burrow]

Hornent has cool weapons and tools and that’s all I need to know

[summer wing]

12 days brooo

[jolly silo]

So are tools the answer for what geo will be good for long-term

[rich haven]

Obviously the tools hornet can craft wouldn't be the same tools you can buy. There are tools you craft, tools you find, and tools you buy. Similar to charms in hollow knight.

[vivid belfry]

didn't require them to make a new inventory tab though

[shell bough]

we can do it

[vivid belfry]

in what way would they be different

[opaque sigil]

The new inventory tab thing I don’t think makes a lot of sense

[jolly silo]

As opposed to reaching a point where there’s nothing left to spend money on

[rich haven]

There are gonna be so many new inventory tabs my guy you can't even comprehend

[granite gulch]

I think my brain already got used to hornet's moveset before silksong even released, I just played hollow knight and I seriously tried down dashing and ledge grabbing, completely by instinct

[opaque sigil]

If true that’s terrible ui design

[rich haven]

They would be different tools??? Hornet can't craft the sting shard or the magma bell, she has to buy those from the forge daughter. Hornet can craft different kinds of tools then that.

[vivid belfry]

okay you have failed to understand the point I was making

[lethal creek]

Silksong soon 🙂

[rich haven]

I guess so???

[vivid belfry]

why can't you put the crafting recipe tools in the tool shop

instead of in a crafting recipe menu

[rich haven]

Because then you could craft at any bench and wouldn't have to go back to a specific shop?

And it wouldn't cost money?

[fiery burrow]

It'd be like if there was a second nail forge at the bench

[vivid belfry]

it does cost money though, because you're buying the recipe

[unkempt burrow]

Love when people argue about things we don’t even know yet lol

[vivid belfry]

what is even in the recipe

[exotic field]

[rich haven]

I don't know man the game isn't even out yet. I think we're misunderstanding each other, I'll be happy to be proven wrong/right in 11 days time

We can chat then, DM me if you want

[unkempt burrow]

[summer wing]

Silksong Is coming

[opaque sigil]

In any case I think it’s fair to say that describing the crafting kit as having any confirmed function is questionable

[vivid belfry]

I just think it's a mistake to assume the existence of an in-depth crafting system when we already have an incredibly simple crafting system

[opaque sigil]

Sure

[vivid belfry]

you sit on a bench and you craft

[left heath]

11 DAYS

[sudden roost]

We talking about a crafting mechanic?

[mellow frigate]

Gonna be honest it only JUST NOW hit me that Silksong is REALLY coming out and got more hyped

[opaque sigil]

Although also consider how weird it would be to put a permanent tool damage upgrade like right after you unlock tools

[rich haven]

You sit on a bench and you repair with shards to replenish charges, and you can also craft

[unkempt burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[rich haven]

That's another thing

I think crafting kit lets hornet herself make her own tools with resources she recovers from enemies

She probably can already, and the kit just expands the options

[obtuse marsh]

how’s your day going tony, have you beaten hk?

[vivid belfry]

okay but the point I was making is that your explanation is overly complicated and relies on a mechanic that is illusory

[opaque sigil]

We’ve also seen tools that seem related to each other which opens a possibility of it being a resource you use to improve your tools

[vivid belfry]

we know that you replenish red tools by crafting new ones at a bench

[unkempt burrow]

Yes I have near 112

[rich haven]

It's not complicated in the slightest???

[vivid belfry]

why is it unbelievable that that's what they meant by crafting

[unkempt burrow]

How about you going well?

[rich haven]

Because that's repairing, that's something else

[obtuse marsh]

helll yeah, hardest boss in your opinion? and yes (:

[vivid belfry]

that's not repairing

[opaque sigil]

It’s absolutely crafting the most you could say is it’s ambiguous

[sudden roost]

I took a long break from the game at 109% and I’m starting back up again for the 113

[vivid belfry]

where did TC say "repairing" was a mechanic

[sudden roost]

113*

[obtuse marsh]

omg.. how would you even pick it back up without being lost

[unkempt burrow]

Hardest boss false knight first play through lol

[sudden roost]

112*

[rich haven]

Okie I'm done that's fine it's all fine, the game will come out and I will be right, or maybe even wrong, no point in being stuck in the present

[vivid belfry]

you didn't answer my question

[sudden roost]

I’m mostly staying in godhome but it’s not that bad really

[vivid belfry]

prove to me that repairing is the name of the mechanic

[full gazelle]

i need skong now

[obtuse marsh]

ohhhh that would make sense. imagine taking a year break in the middle of deepnest

[full gazelle]

now that we have an actual day the wait feels eternally slower

I swear ive been busy all day and the clock hasnt moved

[obtuse marsh]

lol. real for that

[sudden roost]

I would instantly put on wayward compass

[opaque sigil]

I suspect they realized they can’t

[vivid belfry]

dude I'm so glad that wayward compass is fucking dead

[fiery burrow]

there should be an advanced crafting kit too that you use to make like a bajillion vehicles and its a pain to make

[bronze needle]

Hello brainworm general

[obtuse marsh]

FUCK wayward compass my ass always be getting lost

[vivid belfry]

there's no way map navigation isn't built-in at this point

[obtuse marsh]

but that’s also the point so… kinda silly

[ember violet]

Sherma want to reach the citadel right? But we also see him in the early game
Did this dumb ass fall of the bridge like hornet lol

[sudden roost]

TRUE I hadn’t thought about that

[fiery burrow]

NO

[opaque sigil]

I kinda hope you can turn it off but I recognize that anything is better than how HK does it

[fiery burrow]

Real map lovers don't use the training wheels

[sudden roost]

Fr I am not wasting a charm notch

[vivid belfry]

that's not true, it would be worse in silksong if it costed a tool slot

[opaque sigil]

Although on the map in the trailer I don’t think you could see hornet’s head

[obtuse marsh]

as in you’ll have a marker for yourself on the map or you’ll be lost and just figure it out?

[unkempt burrow]

Best underrated charm is sharp shadow

[clever helm]

Yeah I hope something as basic as your location on the map is built-in in silksong, instead of having to waste a charm slot

[opaque sigil]

That is true

[sudden roost]

My favorite as well

[vivid belfry]

as in you'll have a marker for yourself

[unkempt burrow]

Hell yeah

[vivid belfry]

the map system is the same as in HK which is what actually allowed you to memorize a location without relying on the map the whole time

[opaque sigil]

Which would imply there’s a way to not have it on at least

[exotic field]

You play rivals?

[fiery burrow]

Thank god 🙏

[sudden roost]

I do hope they make the minimalist map a little more accurate, like adding all the nooks and crannies

[obtuse marsh]

love sharp shadow

[sudden roost]

I dabble

[ember violet]

Please dont make us waste a slot just to see Hornet on the map

[vivid belfry]

idk HK already kind of sets the bar in map legibility

[fiery burrow]

Going into the settings immediately to change all my controls and get the optimal settings and I'll probably get spoiled

[unkempt burrow]

🙏

[rich haven]

No I find it pointless to continue the discussion, although I will say I think replenishing is a better word for it

[opaque sigil]

We’ve seen a good chunk of the SS map, it looks about the same as HK which is totally fine

[obtuse marsh]

for real. i’d like to know how many players used the charm and for how long during their playthrough of the game

[rich haven]

I think compass will be buyable similar to the quill

[exotic field]

33.7 hours 😭

[ember violet]

Im still using it after beating the game many times

[late viper]

Yeah I thought we were just looking at the hk map and not a map for ss

[sudden roost]

Ik I used it all the way up until unbreakable strength. Kinda sad ngl

[opaque sigil]

It looks like fast travel spots are marked on the map itself and not via pins which is interesting

[rugged solstice]

I have 250 hours across over a dozen playthroughs including randomizers that require checking most secrets. Im using compass on my latest run

[sweet raptor]

soon,,,i shall have no need of this any longer,,,

[obtuse marsh]

nahhh i think it’s fair. you’re supposed to be lost, it’s a metroidvania

[dusk holly]

Im honestly most excited for the music and the main menu background options

[obtuse marsh]

which is why you should at least know where YOU are

[exotic field]

Is it worth watching

[ember violet]

How do they look like

[rugged solstice]

yes it sounded cringe then i watched it and its peak

[opaque sigil]

Well they’re partially obstructed but it looks like a few arrows

[sudden roost]

Rq, any fun charm combos that are your favs?

[opaque sigil]

You can see the full glyph on a sign in bellhart

[obtuse marsh]

i’ve never tried randomizers but i watch youtube videos of people using them all the time. they look so much fun

[limber jungle]

doesn’t the mod just change the knight’s animations to hornet’s

[normal token]

I'm p sure it's in the new demo too

[fiery burrow]

if you use wayward compass you don't deserve that charm notch fr

[rich haven]

Testing testing can I be heard? Discord was acting up

[ember violet]

This?

[exotic field]

Finish the game and then try a randomiser

[fiery burrow]

yeah I can read your messages

[odd bridge]

why does the hollow knight plushie on fangamer have black eyes instead of orange

[rich haven]

Cool, good

[obtuse marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-13074825429999900101

[sudden roost]

Hello moonrock

[rich haven]

Hello RegHammer

[obtuse marsh]

bro…

[river ivy]

Im excited to go into SS blind cause I never got to go into HK blind

[soft wing]

Hello skong chat

[rich haven]

Same, I wish people would SPOILER MARK THE MAPS THEY SEND THOUGH

[obtuse marsh]

did you watch youtube videos before playing?

[exotic field]

Did you beat uumuu yet

[obtuse marsh]

no ): it’s been 1300 days

[river ivy]

yeah

[sudden roost]

Uumuu makes me physically ill

I hate it

[obtuse marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-26345272

[potent sun]

ngl I feel like showing the map was a little bit too far of them spoiler-wise

[fiery burrow]

true

[sudden roost]

Did we get area names too?

[unkempt burrow]

They showed a small part but I guess

[fiery burrow]

this is why Im stoning tc

[opaque sigil]

the map is mostly areas we've seen in a configuration we've seen

the only thing that's new is, what, craw lake?

[potent sun]

I mean damn it was zoomed out and everything that’s like half of the fun of the game

[exotic field]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-in-da-hole-mr-krabs-spongebob-gif-13615133562913194012

[potent sun]

nah there was definitely a lot of stuff there I don’t wanna look back to confirm it though cuz y’know… spoilers

[tawdry finch]

SEPTEMBER 4TH AND WE'RE FREE 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[odd bridge]

maybe it was just 1% of the map

[unkempt burrow]

It feels like forever

[sage umbra]

Honestly im not upset ab the map bc its all areas we knew existed and i already forgot how it looked

[clever helm]

I don't think it's a big deal, it's not like it gives away anything important or makes finding a new area any less special

[tawdry finch]

AND THE GAME RELEASES A DAY BEFORE MY BIRTHDAY FUCK YEAAAAA

[sudden roost]

Co-op confirmed?????

[unkempt burrow]

You have to manually place down bench markers

[rich haven]

Pleaseeeee mark map with SPOILER

[unkempt burrow]

They put 2 there on accident

[sweet raptor]

yeah lol + hornet sound effects added in

[exotic field]

?!?!?

[unkempt burrow]

Silksong online

[ember violet]

Um no lol

[shell bough]

spoilers are allowed in this channel

[rich haven]

It would still be appreciated

[unkempt burrow]

[potent sun]

yeah fs it isn’t like a big big deal or anything, it honestly just bothers me that I COULD be looking at part of the map rn but I’m not because I wanna go in spoiler free (I am extremely prone to spoiling games for myself)

[rich haven]

Im allowed to ask for nice things

[potent sun]

I’m like a self-spoiling addict tbh

[ember violet]

There are some pins tho

[potent sun]

you’re midway through a game and like all the info is online I just wanna look it up

[shell bough]

yes indeed :‌P

[ember violet]

I dont think anything shown in the trailer counts as big spoiler lol

[clever helm]

As long as you don't have it open in the background or try to memorize it, I doubt it will matter at all, or you even think about the map you saw while playing

[unkempt burrow]

Realllll

[exotic field]

[potent sun]

trust me if I continued looking at it I fs would have it down within a day

[ember violet]

They put it in the trailer so its not a big deal if you know that alredy

[sudden roost]

Do we have any info on how the grapple system works? Can we just grapple to anything??

[potent sun]

not literally the entire map but just knowing where the areas are already kinda sucks a little bit of the fun out of it

[exotic field]

Your pfp is so cute 😭

[unkempt burrow]

I think it will be aim assisted

[opaque sigil]

the trailers already gave that away for all the stuff that's on that map

[ember violet]

Thanks I stole it

[unkempt burrow]

Also there’s designated grapple spots I think

[potent sun]

ehhhh I disagree with that, there’s merit to wanting to go in as blind as possible even if it was in a trailer

some ppl don’t watch trailers at all for that reason

[unkempt burrow]

Tragic

[clever helm]

well then you probably shouldn't watch trailers

[opaque sigil]

you don't account for those people when making a trailer

[muted yoke]

def not anything cause that would just break the game

[unkempt burrow]

Literally all my pfps

[potent sun]

that’s definitely not true this is the first time the actual map has been shown right?

[sudden roost]

Yeah, too many skips

[muted yoke]

maybe it will be late thing since you prob have the map expolred by then

[exotic field]

Yeah. That’s what I was thinking

[opaque sigil]

yes but we've seen all those areas and their transitions so we knew where they all were relative to each other

[coarse leaf]

How was the fall

[lilac trout]

Guys, what is the estimated price of silksong

[sudden roost]

True, but like mantis claw was fairly early on

[valid sable]

$1200

[potent sun]

yeah but you also don’t put too too much info in the trailer either

[muted yoke]

thats what we call bad game design if you can just spik anythign

[clever helm]

nobody knows

[obtuse marsh]

not confirmed yet

[ember violet]

No cost too great

[coarse leaf]

I'd say like 20 bucks and 30 at most.

[lilac trout]

Only?

[muted yoke]

it only gave you a wall jump not major

[potent sun]

I give it 30 dollars

[exotic field]

Terraria

[muted yoke]

20-15 dollars

[sudden roost]

Yeah I suppose it’ll prolly be late game

[exotic field]

30 cad

[muted yoke]

the tears of the kingdom temples

[coarse leaf]

Very, very interesting.

[obtuse marsh]

did you guys see she has wings too?

[ember violet]

Wasnt HK 20$? It cant be 15

[sudden roost]

Everyone Zote react the next message

[obtuse marsh]

[opaque sigil]

hk was 15

[valid sable]

$24 for the day of the month the first game released

[unkempt burrow]

It was 15

[ember violet]

Oh ok then

[muted yoke]

hollow knight was 15 dollars maybe it has diffrent price in currencie

[coarse leaf]

14 bucks and 50 cents for me.

[muted yoke]

mannn i left that bitch to die lmao

[wraith slate]

if they named it monarch wings like its called in the original hk it would still make sense

[ornate parrot]

?silksong

[ember violet]

Ass wings

[potent sun]

now that silksong has a much greater name for itself than hollow knight did I feel like it’ll be at least a little more expensive than hk

[ornate parrot]

?help

[coarse leaf]

Never gonna come out.

[sudden roost]

LOL me too

[potent sun]

it does deserve to be let’s be real

[sage heart]

I know it was a while but i done it

[rich haven]

I'd happily buy it for 30

[muted yoke]

by accident to i didnt know you could go up😭

[potent sun]

me too

[obtuse marsh]

higher price means more content so

[opaque sigil]

ss being 15 is the best timeline

[obtuse marsh]

i’m not complaining at all

[clever helm]

that's not true

[shell yacht]

NOOOOOOO SUSIEEEEEE

[muted yoke]

ehh consdiring modern gaming now a days

i doubt it

[obtuse marsh]

in terms of team cherry, not talking triple A

[ornate parrot]

What is the command to see how much leasts silksong?

[exotic field]

Shouldn’t care about the price if you’re so passionate about the game. They’re small devs. They deserve it.

[potent sun]

nah I would probably buy hollow knight for 30 if I knew what it was beforehand

[sudden roost]

Team cherry knows what’s up, they gonna give an accurate price fs

[potent sun]

it has more than enough content for 30 imo

[quick cedar]

dont lose your wayyyy in your mind we have to be

[opaque sigil]

?? that's cartoonishly out of touch lmao

[exotic field]

It’ll be 30 cad my guess. Nothing less

[wraith slate]

i fully beleive steam is gonna be struggling to keep up with so many people trying to buy silksong

[valid sable]

Hollow Knight has more than enough content for like $80 if you look at AAA games

[exotic field]

That’s how I feel about games I genuinely enjoy.

[muted yoke]

im guessing the game will def be under 30 bucks and the price will range between 15-30

[opaque sigil]

that's just not how price works though

[potent sun]

that being said I think 80 dollars is WAY too much for any game

like literally all games

[obtuse marsh]

of course

[ember violet]

I literally wasnt able to buy deltarune because of that

[muted yoke]

oh yeah def

[shell bough]

clean af

[fiery burrow]

HK is barely worth 20 bucks

[ember violet]

Silksong is the most wishlisted game on stram

[valid sable]

ur barely worth 20 bucks

[opaque sigil]

15 is a good price for hk

[sage heart]

Very high detetailed trust me

[obtuse marsh]

that better be rage bait

[sudden roost]

At least 50 cents idk

[wraith slate]

i was lucky enough to buy it super quickly after release so i didnt have to wait for steam to be back up

[shell bough]

very

[potent sun]

60$ is a maximum maximum and that’s only if it has 100 hours+ worth of content

[muted yoke]

im gonna be playing it on the siwtch 2 soooo we will see if it also breaks the eshop lmao

it would be so funny if it did

[wraith slate]

fr

[potent sun]

I’ve been replaying hk on my switch 2 and I am so looking foward to the graphics not being upscaled for silksong

[obtuse marsh]

does that happen often? don’t own a switch

[muted yoke]

no clue

[potent sun]

and just being native to the screen size I mean

[ember violet]

Everything has 100 hours of content if you suck so embrace the skill issue and spend as much time as you want

[potent sun]

hollow knight looks like garbage in handheld on the switch 2

[normal token]

I wonder if they'll bother to properly update HK on switch 2 after ss release

[full rune]

Switch 2 is garbage so it needs to run on it

[potent sun]

100 hours of content that doesn’t include running into spikes over and over again

[potent sun]

doubt it

[ornate parrot]

Team cherry please, confirm now the silksong price

We need it

[potent sun]

I mean it’s fine I can’t really blame Nintendo or TC for the problem

[muted yoke]

the 100 hours i got from hollow knight was dying to the path of pain