sk-discussion

[vivid flint]

brah

[proven moss]

It'll be here for sure In August 2030

[quartz cave]

WAIT WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

||IM IN ASPHODEL NOW????||

[opaque sigil]

mhm

[vivid flint]

i think u r right

[quartz cave]

i KNOW this room too

[dusk pilot]

The time is fucked

[quartz cave]

wait this fucking rockssssssss

||enemies are the same and all||

[vivid flint]

how

[dusk pilot]

A lot of stones

[quartz cave]

how what

[vivid flint]

idk

[viscid wind]

ismoil are you trying out hades 2 for the first time

[dusk pilot]

Ngl lesdes is better than gaydes

[quartz cave]

I beat ||scylla!||

[dusk pilot]

Thats nice

[opaque sigil]

in a lot of ways certainly

I don't like hades 2's weapons overall as much but there are good enough options

[dusk pilot]

Ismoil did u know about the achivement hype

[quartz cave]

what kinda ||shitty ass blessing this is||

[lone crown]

Evading filters

[dusk pilot]

Mods banish him

[opaque sigil]

what is it

[red mulch]

better? lol

i mean it is geniuinely absurd to me

[lone crown]

No cause its a message referencing the subreddit

[red mulch]

ah i can't do that anymore?

got it

nvm then

so to rephrase

i don't get the primacon-led outrage

[copper shore]

https://tenor.com/view/walking-pipe-gif-7744730

[red mulch]

the legend of zelda: wind waker

[quartz cave]

this area is kinda weird

[opaque sigil]

yeah it is

[copper shore]

what area

[quartz cave]

its kinda cool but at the same time this shit is gonna get annoyying

[copper shore]

blighttown

[dusk pilot]

Pls refer to time is fucked when u think anyyhing is weird

[quartz cave]

no

[copper shore]

@cyan forum

[dusk pilot]

U are terrible at notating

[copper shore]

don't be mean

[dusk pilot]

Not u

Ismoil

[red mulch]

god i remember getting through it on ps3

hellscape in 12 fps

[dusk pilot]

It was so bad

[red mulch]

geniuinely awful

[dusk pilot]

Fromslopware doing it usual shit

[red mulch]

dark souls 2 is the best rated souls game purely on the account of it being the only fromsoft game to run smoothly on the platform it came out on

[dusk pilot]

Even though it was some of the most god awful boss fights of all time

[copper shore]

I've only played the remastered version so I consider myself rescued

[dusk pilot]

So many gank

[red mulch]

ds2 has its problems but imo its bright spots shine so bright that i don't mind at all

esp in the series context

[copper shore]

ds2 is on my library but I haven't played yet

replaying 1 rn

[red mulch]

imo 1=2=3

[dusk pilot]

I never completed ds2

[red mulch]

it's the only dark souls game i completed more than once though the first time was over 10 years ago

[dusk pilot]

Why are they all equal

[quartz cave]

equally as mid

[copper shore]

No

[red mulch]

imo every single one does something better than the others and i enjoy them the same amount

[copper shore]

dark souls 1 is legendary play

[red mulch]

ds1 has brilliant level design in its first half, ds2 has the most build variety and the best vibes, ds3 has the best combat

[quartz cave]

||CERBERUS????||

[copper shore]

I'm ngl ds2 is one of the ugliest games I have ever seen
I'll play it but dear god it looks horrible

[pastel silo]

it also feels horrible

[red mulch]

that was me with ds1

lol

[copper shore]

ds1 is beautiful

[red mulch]

esp on ps3

[copper shore]

ok yeah on ps3 I see it lol

[red mulch]

ds1 was very gooey-looking and ds2's brighter palette is idk more in my lane

[weary tundra]

there's gullibles in your ceiling rip them out

[quartz cave]

wtf did they do to himmmmmmmmmmmm

[weary tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-sam-porter-sam-porter-bridges-fall-on-the-beach-gif-10256768582934217727

[red mulch]

i also really enjoy the design of a few ds2 areas - shrine of amana is so gorgeous man (and people who are complaining about it either just ran through the whole thing or have never used a bow)

[weary tundra]

i'd say that looks pretty good

[dusk pilot]

The dragon eryie is peak fantasy

[pastel silo]

So you saying it has the best build variety but then argue people are wrong for not using specific weapon when complaining about a level?

[red mulch]

or

[copper shore]

the art direction is fine but the textures yucky and mouldy

[red mulch]

either or

i have done shrine of amana with a purely melee build and it wasn't that big of a deal lol

[copper shore]

swamp levels are good

[dusk pilot]

Hes shrek

[pastel silo]

it's not just that amana is an individual issue , they didnt know how to balance gank fights in ds2 overall

[red mulch]

that's a ps3 game for ya lol

[violet dune]

ari "mpreg" gibson

[copper shore]

what

[red mulch]

i can admit it does feel ganky at times but on the other hand i'd say that most of the "uhhh the game is a gankfest" comments come from people who were just running past the enemies

[dusk pilot]

Most bosses are ganks

[red mulch]

nah most bosses are just boring

[dusk pilot]

The enemy placement were fine tho

[pastel silo]

ganks are not an issue by themselves, it's how they use high hp, stagger resistant , high damage enemies in ganks...in other souls games ganks are balanced by either having low hp enemies, or easily staggerable ones etc

[red mulch]

tho the last giant is a fire boss and i will not tolerate its slander

[pastel silo]

that in combination with the janky movement

makes ganks more frustrating in ds2

[red mulch]

the movement in ds2 is better than in des and ds1 tho

[pastel silo]

you must be kidding

[red mulch]

bc that game introduced the omnidirectional roll

[copper shore]

ganks in the other games are balanced by not being an idiot when you explore the levels

[dusk pilot]

Best gank made by fromslopware was o&s why did they forget to make good ganks

[pastel silo]

ds2 has locked movement to 8 directions unlike even ds1 which allows 360 degrees (movement not rolling)

that is a huge issue

[copper shore]

the demon prince is epic

[pastel silo]

for an action game

[red mulch]

yeah but on the other hand ds1 allows for rolling in 8 directions while ds2 has omnidirectional rolling when locked on

and when playing ds1 it is the single most glaring thing to me

[pastel silo]

being locked to 8 directional movement is much much bigger issue than rolling

[red mulch]

agree to disagree then

[pastel silo]

its not up to debate

[dusk pilot]

I disagree

[still owl]

I struggle to put it into words but man ds2 looks worse than 1 and 3 but I can’t tell you why

[red mulch]

like idk it never particularly bugged me in ds2 while the ds1 rolling does bug me a lot

[copper shore]

oh yeah dear god fuck the 8 directional rolling on ds1
how do keyboard players play elden ring lol

[dusk pilot]

They dont

[pastel silo]

ds1 attacks are rollable with 8 directions, they are made in that with mind...but putting 8 directional movement like in ds2 into an action game is atrocious

[still owl]

I think it’s just the fact ds2 doesn’t have a ton of visual feedback when attacking stuff like bosses and animation quality might be weaker

[pastel silo]

its a lot of small stuff combined

[copper shore]

it's especially bothersome in ds 1 because the levels are tight and claustrophobic for the most part

[red mulch]

yep i agree with this

[still owl]

I only played half of the game tbh I might give it a second try one day

[dusk pilot]

Also most people didnt know abput adp

[red mulch]

yeah adp is a major miss in ds2 ngl

[dusk pilot]

Adp is good idea just badly implemented

Like let me control my i frames

[red mulch]

imo if the beginning amount of iframes was equal to the ds1 one it would've been way cooler

but idk i'm not huge on the idea in general

[dusk pilot]

Na max adp would have made endgame pretty boring

[red mulch]

what i did like was the lifegem mechanic

[pastel silo]

ds already has iframe influencing mechanic in form of weight, which also has visual feedback to indicate it... having another mechanic that allows you to have different iframes but with the same animation would never be a good idea

[red mulch]

i like how lifegems become increasingly obsolete when you're going through the game

[dusk pilot]

Weight is so much simplier and primitive comapred to adp

A better system for adp would have made for better challange runs as well

[red mulch]

god the weight in DS1 and esp DeS is so shitty

like the requirements

[pastel silo]

it doesnt have to be complex to work well..adp has 0 visual feedback

[red mulch]

DS2 also tweaked them in a way that was in the later titles iirc

[pastel silo]

weight does

its also intuitive

[dusk pilot]

I said it was implemented badly

Thats the only problem

Also complexity might be due to my diablo style game addict brain kicking in

[pastel silo]

the only good implementation I could see would be if the animation of rolling would change with adp

[dusk pilot]

Like the flip with the cat ring would be sick

Remove weight from stam and link it to adp

[red mulch]

ok i like this ngl

[dusk pilot]

Of course u like it my ego is bigger than napolean

[copper shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1259773308732182644/1330297466238664855/attachment.gif

[pastel silo]

the problem is that then you give the ability to wear heavy armor to high adp users, which adp is supposed to promote more dexterous type

by maxing adp you improve your rolling, but you would also get rewarded by wearing heavy armor.....i-frames alone make adp the best stat to max already

[red mulch]

i like that it would make the heavy armor more viable

like ngl in all souls games apart from des heavy armor just sucks lol

[pastel silo]

heavy armor was viable in ds1

[dusk pilot]

A dextrous person can wear more armor by the sheer aura u exude

[red mulch]

yeah fair i forgor you can tank dmg in that game too

[dusk pilot]

Wasnt tanking damage the meta in ds1

The dad build or smth

[red mulch]

idk never really cared about that stuff

[viscid wind]

im about to finish house md

i want to cry

because peak is ending

i think i'll experience the same with silksong

[dusk pilot]

Wait u played silksong and almost completed it

[worn valley]

Does it have a peak finale

[worn valley]

Silksong will never end, because it's never coming out

[weary tundra]

i got spoiled the finale by youtube videos :< (and no not shorts, the videos on the official house md channel)

[viscid wind]

"cameron dies of cancer - house md"

(fake spoilers)

[floral void]

Is it finally lupus

[worn valley]

Does he finally get the drugs (he needs the drugs)

[lyric tendon]

nice! try myhouse.wad, its similar 😀

[worn valley]

Isn't it .wav

[pallid plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1396996451493609472/happi.avif

[lyric tendon]

id like to imagine a world where its myhouse.wav and its just the audio from it

[worn valley]

Oh I was wrong it is .wad 😭😭😭😭

My apologies

I swear I remember a myhouse.wav

[lyric tendon]

cant wait for myhouse.pptx 🔥 🔥

[worn valley]

Myhouse.docx

Myhouse.exe

[viscid wind]

dude i was so shocked when gale boetticher appeared in house md

dude i was so shocked when ted beneke appeared in house md

[worn valley]

I was so shocked when I saw Walter white in Malcolm in the middle, do the kids know he's a meth kingpin?

[chilly crane]

I love heart machine but they’ve only made like 1 good game and I’ve never heard a soul talk about solar ash or hlb

[floral void]

HLD has quitre a following

Oh, breaker

Yeah nobody talks about that shit

[viscid wind]

spoiler ||yes||

[worn valley]

Yippee

[oblique musk]

House MD final episode - ||No More Mouse Bites||

[cunning geode]

Where’s All the Data

[worn valley]

Is that what it stands for

[cunning geode]

yes

[worn valley]

What's your source

[dusk pilot]

i am the source

[cunning geode]

id software named it

[worn valley]

What's your source

[cunning geode]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/WAD

[lyric tendon]

no way thats actually true

so cursed

[dusk pilot]

doom devs best devs

[cunning geode]

funny thing is the file you use to play myhouse.wad is a .pk3 file

not a wad file

[cerulean sable]

would you want team cherry to support wads for silksong

[lyric tendon]

boutta start naming my audio files waa for wheres all the audio

source files as wac for wheres all the code

[cunning geode]

wad files have audio

[worn valley]

Doomwiki? Sounds made up

[dusk pilot]

wad files have everything

[viscid wind]

yeah all words are made up

[compact night]

I’m tried of people saying house is evil his really not his just a man who breaks the rules of a super strict system that lets people die everyday to save others

[cunning geode]

not everything exactly

[worn valley]

Exactly

I don't trust anything

[viscid wind]

wad files are where all the data is

[worn valley]

Not even myself

[dusk pilot]

it even has answer for meaning of life

[cunning geode]

the IWAD files are the source code the PWADs are what you use to mod the game

[lyric tendon]

early software development is wild

[viscid wind]

HE GAVE A GUN TO A HOSTAGE TAKER

[oblique musk]

I mean, he’s not exactly a moral person. He has all but admitted on several occasions that the thrill of the case is what motivates him, and saving lives is just a happy little side effect.

[dusk pilot]

house is house no morals just pure medicine knowledge

[cunning geode]

ok

[cunning geode]

just like momotaros

https://tenor.com/view/momotaros-momo-kamen-rider-den-o-imagin-den-liner-gif-7865744028878706472

[viscid wind]

major house md spoilers ||HE DROVE A CAR INTO THE HOUSE OF HIS EX GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE HE SAW HER WITH ANOTHER MAN||

[compact night]

he gave the gun back because he respected and understood the patient's need for an answer, because he's the same way.

[viscid wind]

evil does not mean reasonless

[oblique musk]

https://youtu.be/BIftASJZi4E?feature=shared

[weary tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-2-tomorrow-death-stranding-gif-9409514999287038548

[worn valley]

He just needed the drugs

[oblique musk]

What did Kojimbles mean by this

[weary tundra]

game of the year

[dusk pilot]

reason gta6 was delayed

[weary tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-deathstranding-death-stranding-2-higgs-tongue-gif-165914104793199555

why did indiana jones do this

[dusk pilot]

would

[worn valley]

Ewwwww wtf

[compact night]

first line of thought was something like, if he doesn't give the gun back, the patient's gonna die, all the hostages except the curious kid ran away, the patient seemed to be harmless without a gun in his hand, so he saw a straight harmless path to get his diagnosis, give the gun back, treat him, send him to prison then, he did not expect him to get all crazy again and make 13 take the drugs.

[chilly crane]

Indiana jones is trans her name is Diana jones now

[worn valley]

In Diana jones

[dusk pilot]

is diana jones still misogynistic

[compact night]

Post this on Twitter and your gonna get 199000 comments of the same damn joke

“HEaR mE oUT”

[weary tundra]

harrison ford is hannah ford now

[oblique musk]

Han Solo becomes Jan Solo

[worn valley]

Is Jan even a name

Or short for Janice or something

[oblique musk]

Is Han?

[cerulean sable]

silksong thumbnails gonna come in like

[worn valley]

That's not my question

[weary tundra]

no the only thing i do on twitter is bother toby fox with no reply every couple months i don't even use it

[compact night]

You speak to Toby Fox?

[haughty brook]

Doesn't spoil the final boss for the secret ending 2/10 not enough clickbait

[oblique musk]

Nah they’re all gonna be like this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1325598222193791059/1376714463327289495/IMG_9340.png?ex=688e0082&is=688caf02&hm=f6b566a94405cd2a0e908b9b61d64ef9b8ac69727ee4c6454f48a9101cdce4c8&

[weary tundra]

no i just tag him and like i said i get no replies

https://tenor.com/view/usada-pekora-death-stranding-2-sam-porter-pekora-sam-porter-bridges-gif-1589521948617373724

[worn valley]

The hank bossfight was so hard, when he threw all those minerals at you

[cerulean sable]

you have no idea how i sounded at my home when i saw this

gonna wake up my entire family at this rate

[dusk pilot]

wake them up and show it

[haughty brook]

There was a Deltarune thumnail that was both spoilery and not at the same time, I think...

[versed pollen]

Isn't this straight up in the vanilla game

[viscid wind]

yup

[weary tundra]

of course it is and it's a mandatory story mission too

[dapper dove]

where is the gustavo fring boss fight

[oblique musk]

He’s the hidden super boss

[viscid wind]

which is why he would be in the thumbnail to spoil everyone as much as possible

[oblique musk]

You need to complete the romance route with Hector to unlock it.

[weary tundra]

The Nameless Fring

[compact night]

Okay, this might sound kinda cheesy or cringe to some people, but I honestly think it’d be insanely cool if, when Silksong drops, a bunch of voice actors got together and did a let’s play with Hornet’s VA actually playing the game. It’d be like all the characters reacting to Silksong in real time, staying completely in character the whole time. That would be such a fun to me personally

[oblique musk]

Yeah but these thumbnails go up on day 1, way before people would find the boss.

[weary tundra]

ok voice actors playing the game yes but NOT in character the whole time that would fucking suck

[compact night]

Dude why I did I get reacted to

Does nobody else see the vision???????

Man yall fake bro

[dapper dove]

no

[shell yacht]

We see the vision it just stinks

[opaque sigil]

that's not even a new idea vas already do that sometimes

[weary tundra]

this but with the hornet voice actress

[worn valley]

...
No.

Nobody else sees ts

[oblique musk]

Alexs Le did that for Persona 3 Reload

[compact night]

Your pfp stinks bro it’s a picture of a cat

[haughty brook]

Considering how people envisioned Grimm with conventional suave sexyman voice while his canonical voice sounds like he smoked a pack of cigarettes every morning and evening for the past 1000 years.

[oblique musk]

You can’t be talking with your Pantone ass blue circle

[shell yacht]

?ban

[cunning geode]

at least they don’t spoil the gus fring fight

[twin zealot]

Bros, skong is coming i was watching a french Hollow knight video and i got an AD about SILKSONG from NINTENDO its nearly

[cunning geode]

also someone may have just said this but there is a VA mod for hollow knight

[compact night]

And you can’t be talking either what are you even supposed to be???

[worn valley]

I hated it when his aura made him invincible to gunfire and being shot at just like in that one scene from bb

[chilly crane]

I actually have the best profile pictures errmmmmm

[viscid wind]

arent they the same

[chilly crane]

I love the mpreg emoji

[lone crown]

Disgrace for not knowing

[opaque sigil]

it's hard to tell unless you know

[compact night]

I don’t

I hate it

[lone crown]

“Its hard to tell unless you know” wow really

[cunning geode]

honestly. being for real. still a sexyman voice

[chilly crane]

Why are you so angry

[dapper dove]

i am indifferent to it

[compact night]

Why did they make that anyway???

[opaque sigil]

it looks like a nose

[chilly crane]

I’m hiring Garfield to attack you

[worn valley]

You're being ragebaited lmao

[compact night]

I’m upset because every time I say anything people always clown on me and it’s not fair :[

[chilly crane]

Everybody clown on this man now

[worn valley]

Maybe don't say clownable stuff

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/lucas-mother-smash-bros-super-smash-bros-earthbound-gif-15545014

[tidal ruin]

🤡

[chilly crane]

I ❤️cyber bullying

[opaque sigil]

I know

[haughty brook]

Really hoping that SS has a Orstein and Smough style boss, HK had the Mantis Lords as its closest in quality.

[lone crown]

Ikyk

[oblique musk]

Why would you wish for a boss to be mid???

[opaque sigil]

Mantis lords and not oro and mato

[cunning geode]

bed of chaos, take it or leave it.

[haughty brook]

I mean, a Bed of Chaos in SS would be unironically far better than in DS1, because Hornet can actually jump

[worn valley]

And can slide

(what's a bed of chaos)

[chilly crane]

A bed of chaos is what happens when both me and your mothers best friend show up to her house at the same time

[weary tundra]

why does lex luthor have a trevor henderson SCP creature thing

[compact night]

hilarious how when I say it, everyone acts like it’s a bad idea but if one of the official Hollow Knight devs announced they were doing that for Silksong’s release, people would be sobbing and losing their minds like moths to a damn flame. Don’t even try to deny it

[worn valley]

I'm killing you

[chilly crane]

Yeah it’s true everybody just hates you

[shell yacht]

No it's still cringe

[worn valley]

The ragebait fucking worked no way

[floral void]

Zzzzz

[oblique musk]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-ragebait-angry-gon-bait-gif-5270896389597269350

[chilly crane]

3 things in life are certain death taxes and ragebait

[compact night]

Rage bait is the most stupidest thing that has ever come out of the internet don’t even speak those words to me

[worn valley]

Are image perms allowed here or do you have to download

[quartz cave]

Hi gays

[floral void]

Being sleepy is one of the constants too

[dapper dove]

i only agree with your opinion if it is ragebait

[chilly crane]

What about trolling are you an mlg era kinda guy

[compact night]

I’m good

[quartz cave]

Sounds like a skill issue i fear

[oblique musk]

Usually, but the mods turn them off on busy days.

[compact night]

I’m fine now

[lyric tendon]

this convo is cringe

[dapper dove]

true

[quartz cave]

Chat hop on grounded 2

[lyric tendon]

its a cool idea

i like it

[chilly crane]

I think the atupidest thing is the idea that there should be a play through of silksong with hornets va

[compact night]

Thank you zoop

Thank you for seeing the vision

[versed pollen]

I just don't think it would work because I'm under the impression most of the VAs already know the story of the game

[compact night]

There’s this thing called “putting on a persona and pretending”

[dusk pilot]

i need a hornet va playthrough

[worn valley]

Did you just say....

Persona...

[cerulean sable]

that would probably be awkward

[versed pollen]

So it's reaction content but like fake

[worn valley]

Literally

[dusk pilot]

all reaction content is fake

[dapper dove]

i can't believe the character that i played did the thing

[chilly crane]

Also William and Ari are like the vas for 90% of the characters in hollow knight and I imagine that would carry over to silksong so it would just be like will Ari hornets va and like 1 or 2 other people maybe

[shell yacht]

It's like when a game Dev does a demo live stream and they pretend to react everything, it's just cringe

[chilly crane]

Not a lot of people

[worn valley]

It's team cherry gaming ready for another gaming video today

[cerulean sable]

i prefer it how other "vas playing their game" does it

they simply play it like normally, then they answer questions from fans, and ocassionally they do requested voice ilnes under that character's voice just for the fun of it

[haughty brook]

Silksong has more a more variety of VAs this time around

[compact night]

Basically

[cerulean sable]

but being in character is probably gonna be cringe

[dusk pilot]

hornet va just shouting get gud at everything

[chilly crane]

Snapcube style dub of silksong

[worn valley]

I love Gabriel plays ultrakill

[red mulch]

i like ti when there's something like vavle's commentary - it's just the game but the dev sometimes says "oh we did this neat thing here look"

[dapper dove]

being in character in front of an audience sounds incredibly awkward

[compact night]

That would be kinda funny

[dusk pilot]

imagine theater actors

[oblique musk]

Graig does this half the time: #sk-discussion message

[compact night]

Alright, alright — I’ll admit it. The idea sounds cool in theory, but the actual execution would probably come off a bit corny and kinda cringe.

[dusk pilot]

it wont u just need to get gud

[shell yacht]

Commentary is different from them pretending to be immersed and experiencing the game, commentary can be good but usually still cringe

[serene chasm]

what we talking aboot?

[dusk pilot]

va's playing skong

[oblique musk]

Cringe, commentary, and Silksong.

[red mulch]

i've never heard commentary other than valve's and it was cool and geniuinely insightful lol

[worn valley]

Vlave

[dusk pilot]

vlad playing skong?

[worn valley]

Vladimir

[serene chasm]

this.

[chilly crane]

Cringe, silksong, and the death of abstract values

[serene chasm]

Orange box commentary is some of the best

[dusk pilot]

lenin reserructs and plays skong 100% true

[red mulch]

idk honestly i never got these reaction videos at all - it's one thing when it's an unreleased game but if it is out why not play it yourself instead

[worn valley]

Truth, justice and silksong

[vivid bison]

Silk tomorrow

[worn valley]

Money issue and many other potential issues

[red mulch]

skong next year

[dapper dove]

youtuber reacts to [THING]

[dusk pilot]

the THING

[chilly crane]

Lalalaalallalalalalalalaalalalalla

[worn valley]

Here's the thing

[serene chasm]

I need to see other humans enjoying something I also enjoy because Im so lonely and forgot what its like to connect with another person

[dapper dove]

the thing:

[cunning geode]

tch you would think, you would think…

[worn valley]

What time is it

[dusk pilot]

10:01

[vivid bison]

May I interest you in [[THE LATEST HOT TREND]]?

[mental swallow]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/THE_LATEST_HOT_TREND?action=edit&redlink=1

[red mulch]

fair this is why i watch reviewbrah when i'm eating dinner

[trim estuary]

No time, no money

[dusk pilot]

no skong

[dapper dove]

i wasn't aware this was in the game! wow!

[weary tundra]

politics

[zealous warren]

At 3 am you have to go in your bathroom look in the mirror and say silk my song 3 times so you can summon the australian insects who will then silk your song

[red mulch]

the money argument i do understand but if you have the time to watch somebody play the game you can do it yourself too right

[worn valley]

Silky mary

[dusk pilot]

most videos are edited

[cunning geode]

there is another part of this

[worn valley]

Shrue

[compact night]

Also what does “I’m silking it” mean??? I’ve been hearing it everywhere and I’m still confused

[cunning geode]

wanting to play a game is different from wanting to watch someone else play it

[dapper dove]

i think ss should make your computer explode if you frequent r/silksong

[zealous warren]

im silking it as we speak

[dusk pilot]

i am also dogshit at some games but other people are not

[chilly crane]

What makes you think your so tough baaaaaaby

[cunning geode]

some games i like watching and playing

many games i do not want to play but i like watching another person play

[chilly crane]

You know you look like death riding on wheeeeels

[zealous warren]

mortuary assistant

[cunning geode]

inside crystal mountain
evil takes its form

cool game

i don’t mean horror games specifically though

[weary tundra]

example

[dusk pilot]

phasmophobia is scary to play but goofy to watch

[lament bramble]

I'm joking it. And by it, I mean my peanits

[opaque sigil]

on top of this there's also the fact that seeing what different people take out of things can be interesting

[cunning geode]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ma2v2kT9Kk4

[weary tundra]

lethal company is actually pretty scary in vr

[dusk pilot]

that is music

[weary tundra]

why you no like playing votv :<

[red mulch]

i browse it all the time it's too fun

[compact night]

Oh so it’s a bad joke

Nice to know

[dusk pilot]

no its the best joke we have

[weary tundra]

H

[dusk pilot]

I

[cunning geode]

i just don’t have an interest in playing it myself

[hexed atlas]

is thatthe mimic from five nights at freddy's

[cunning geode]

sure

[weary tundra]

That sucks a lot, it’s a really fun game

[cunning geode]

it doesn’t suck i’m having a fine time

[red mulch]

what's votv

[cunning geode]

on the flip side i enjoy watching people play this and also playing it myself 👹 👹 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oF6x-UXsOig

[dusk pilot]

voices of the void

[subtle flint]

https://tenor.com/ldwaFZkbkIa.gif

[chilly crane]

Wait there’s multiple vine sauce people?

[cunning geode]

yes

[chilly crane]

I thought there was only Vinny

[dusk pilot]

?

[subtle flint]

vine sauce joel windows destruction

[opaque sigil]

oh god

[subtle flint]

voices of the void also known as the game where nothing ever happens

[dusk pilot]

ohh

never played it

[subtle flint]

it looks p decent

[chilly crane]

Are jerma and Vinny vine sauce the greatest streamers oat

[cerulean sable]

basically

vinesauce is a group

[subtle flint]

ster...

[cerulean sable]

nowadays tho theyre more like a friend thing that does their own thing

but afaik the closest still is Joel and Vinny?

and Joel has done visits (twice already, latest was last year) to the US

[weary tundra]

Is Mike like an honorary Sauce or is he like fully part of it

[cerulean sable]

and he crashed along with Vinny

not sure

[cunning geode]

https://youtu.be/BSFv8IxDCiE?si=yQj0GAsJMrRJ2jUq

[fresh zodiac]

tbh votv is a cool game to play for yourself

[cerulean sable]

Jerma and Ster arent under vinesauce 🥴

[subtle flint]

nah too spooky

[cunning geode]

i understand i understand but i don’t wanna play it myself

[opaque sigil]

enemy spam enemy spam enemy spam

[cunning geode]

ok you can call it enemy spam all you want: how you gonna beat it?

godspeed

[opaque sigil]

not

[cunning geode]

👹

[cerulean sable]

also man its insane how much its turned around
i remember back in the TF2 days, it was "Ster_ and that guy he sometimes play with named Jerma"
how much the dynamic has shifted is insane and im happy theyre still close friends despite the alleged fight after their post TF2 days

nowadays Jerma is the big name and Ster is that friend guy but those who knows knows 😭

[weary tundra]

Now they’re a divorced couple

[cerulean sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGr18BHG4ak

[opaque sigil]

(probably a lot of memorizing pickup locations and running in circles to make enemies shoot each other idk)

[cunning geode]

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxeIs7-wCYGn8G3G74Iu2n7xtIWfnQsfLF

[fresh zodiac]

ight fair
i do really like it myself, and ive been planning to cover it in a video some time

[cunning geode]

yup something like that

[weary tundra]

Why don’t you cover a less popular game that needs covering more cause it’s pretty niche

That would be even cooler

[fresh zodiac]

i mean votv is kinda niche

[opaque sigil]

every time I see doom shit it makes me really want to replay selaco but I'm also waiting on that update

[dusk pilot]

nah everybody know votv

play mark of the deep

[fresh zodiac]

and then again im literally making a video on ror2, and ive talked about hazbin before

[chilly crane]

Vinny of the vine sauce

[fresh zodiac]

my consensus on "how do you decide what you wanna talk about" is "if i can talk about this for like half an hour, id do it"

[weary tundra]

Ykonw what game REALLY needs a white man video essay? sky: children of the light

[weary tundra]

Michael of jabronos

[fresh zodiac]

oh its such a pretty game, played it a bit but never continued

i saw theres moth wings but they were paid :(

[weary tundra]

HAHAHA

you should thank god you never continued

[fresh zodiac]

why?

am i missing some starbound-esque drama?

[cerulean sable]

you know that scene from constantine

where satan appears

and hes basically a dude in a white suit and oil dripping from his hands and feet

what if silksong has that but instead its dripping void

[novel pewter]

Hello

[cerulean sable]

really make syou think

[novel pewter]

When silksong come?

[cunning geode]

my silksong. my loom.

[opaque sigil]

hornet should do it during the end of a big act 2 climax

[fresh zodiac]

itd be funny to see like a bug with a real tuxedo

[novel pewter]

.

[dapper dove]

to be continued...

[dusk pilot]

Today

[fresh zodiac]

speaking of it actually, the baphomet moth could fit that

freakish moth

[novel pewter]

🗿

[cyan forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/902908759762960396/1071932500282191985/caption.gif

[weary tundra]

Oh no, it’s just an absolutely dogshit game, if you can even call it a game

[dusk pilot]

It is i never lie

[cerulean sable]

https://youtu.be/j_gFjrO8Mck?t=126

"They have the Silksong"
"TheY HaVe ThE SilKsOnG"

[fresh zodiac]

sounds like its not your type of game

[dusk pilot]

We must liberate skong from them

[unreal thicket]

My areas tierlist, abyss is S, and basin is A-B, but here abyss tied to basin, so S

[dusk pilot]

Deepnest too high

[serene chasm]

WinKey+Shift+S

[unreal thicket]

I put it high because of the lore

[woeful matrix]

fog too high

[unreal thicket]

Yes

Fog should be in F

[cerulean sable]

KINGDOMS EDGE SWEEP

best fucking area in the game

not even lying

closest thing to a snow area

[cunning geode]

i love it too

[dusk pilot]

The lore is shit the area is shit no boss fight

[cerulean sable]

has the most underrated OST as well

[unreal thicket]

Its my second best

[opaque sigil]

it's good but c'mon city of tears is basically cheating

[unreal thicket]

Are you talking about fog?

[cerulean sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGcYPyZRyTY

[rough quiver]

But primal aspids puts it down a bit

[unreal thicket]

This is beautiful

[cunning geode]

no

[dusk pilot]

Deepnest

[cerulean sable]

i didnt wanna choose CoT Because its AOT

[cunning geode]

primal aspids bring it up

[cerulean sable]

its too easy of an answer

[unreal thicket]

The lore is not shit

[dusk pilot]

Omg spiders and stuff

[opaque sigil]

yeah everything is competing for second

[unreal thicket]

But silence of the abyss is cooler

[dusk pilot]

Silence is the best music

[cunning geode]

my favorite area is the shortcut from junk pit to nail smith

[unreal thicket]

City is fourth in my list

[unreal thicket]

What

Wait

[cunning geode]

just kidding 👹

[weary tundra]

I’ve been playing it for half a decade

[unreal thicket]

Oh

[fresh zodiac]

damn

[dusk pilot]

Ngl nailsmith best npc

[unreal thicket]

And there's two bossfights

[dusk pilot]

2 dream bosses

[weary tundra]

I have a disgustingly deep love hate relationship with the game

[unreal thicket]

1 dream boss

And snosk

[versed pollen]

What.... https://youtu.be/fBPFKBLEMEU?list=RDfBPFKBLEMEU

[dusk pilot]

Whats the other

[cerulean sable]

i love the serene parts of HKs ost tho the combat can sometimes be lacking

https://youtu.be/cJ83xWGtQtg?t=1631 the strings in this White Palace rendition kills me man :soh

[unreal thicket]

I was talking about the other abyss, but okay

[leaden delta]

oh talking about ke

yeah I fucking love ke too I think it’s my favorite area in the game overall

[cunning geode]

king gizzard + christopher larkin orchestral

[leaden delta]

that or wp

[unreal thicket]

Only two : snosk and galien

[opaque sigil]

are you talking about the combat ost or the combat in general

[unreal thicket]

Second best area

[cerulean sable]

ost

[opaque sigil]

that's fair

[unreal thicket]

Ss OST is gonna be peak

[cerulean sable]

tho you can argue mob combat can be a bit stale in comparison to the bosses

[opaque sigil]

the combat is lacking a bit too

[cerulean sable]

which is what im looking forward to Silksong

[dusk pilot]

The snosk have taken over hkcord run

[cerulean sable]

yeah

i mean they admit it as well 🥴

and looking at Silksong's preview they at least knew that was a priority

[versed pollen]

goomba

[opaque sigil]

moss knights are great but they're in area 2 and then nothing is at their level again

[weary tundra]

Ludvig Forssell is such a good composer

[cerulean sable]

because everytime you praise HK's combat, its always the bosses

the mob combat? its aight

[dusk pilot]

I like how much better enemies are in silksong

[cerulean sable]

yeah

[unreal thicket]

Trust, ss will release before ACMI

[opaque sigil]

much of which is also undeserved

[weary tundra]

On my birthday

[versed pollen]

I always felt like Moss Knights were kind of annoying past the 3rd encounter or so just because dealing with shields is kind of a slog

[leaden delta]

The thing that upsets me with hk is that they could have done so much more with just about everything, including bosses

cuz the base combat system is really really good

[dusk pilot]

They released hk early due to funding issues

[weary tundra]

Chat
Chat Ludowic has concerts in September and October

There’s a chance we’ll get Katana Zero DLC and Silksong in the same month

[versed pollen]

Do his concerts coincide with K0 DLC..?

[cerulean sable]

yeah thats why im excited in Silksong because you can argue HK was a solid base foundation

they just need to be a bit more improvements

[weary tundra]

Idk but it would be cool

[versed pollen]

I would have assumed he just does concerts to make money, since that's what most artists do

[unreal thicket]

"HK is a rushed game, Silksong is the masterpiece" - Graig

[weary tundra]

Yeah but also the dlc is probably coming out this year so it would kinda make sense LET ME HAVE HOPE OKAY

[dapper dove]

imagine how much cooler hk would have been with ss budget

[dusk pilot]

It would have never released

[unreal thicket]

That's why we have Silksong

[weary tundra]

I hope silksong has a Silk-pong minigame

[unreal thicket]

120 areas

[swift sand]

good morning silkers

[unreal thicket]

1000 bosses

[swift sand]

songers?

whatever

[opaque sigil]

hk being rushed doesn't mean all its limitations are based on budget or time there's also a pretty major experience component

[dusk pilot]

Morning blaz

[unreal thicket]

50000 hours of playtime

[rough quiver]

Go to hk-meme and check first message

[dapper dove]

true

[unreal thicket]

I'm most excited for Silksong lore

Puppets, judge's, conductors and other assholes

[cerulean sable]

yeah and its also the same for Silksong

so many are saying its just the same 2d platformer it shouldnt take too long

but like ofc they as devs theyre experimenting with stuff

[weary tundra]

I know goty is bullshit but we damn we got some good candidates this year, death stranding 2, expedition 33, silksong, dk bananza, prime 4

[cerulean sable]

we didnt expect shit like crests which changes your attack moveset entirely

because by then that was just a pipe dream and "wouldnt work for HK or its too much work" etc

[unreal thicket]

TC just keep adding random stuff

[red mulch]

my only fear is that the mechanics will end up being clunky or weirdly obscure

[unreal thicket]

That's why Silksong is taking too long

[versed pollen]

TC should have just made the exact same game as HK and called it a day 🥱 🥱 🥱 🥱 🥱

[cerulean sable]

i dont even care about GOTY man i just want the games i need 😭

i hate Geoff

like in general

[opaque sigil]

It would be neat if there was a major ability we haven't seen that was actually bonkers but I doubt it

[cerulean sable]

well hate is a strong word

[versed pollen]

You're not scared of the boogey doom man?

[unreal thicket]

Geoff is asshole, ngl

[cerulean sable]

more like i think hes disingenous in general

[red mulch]

tbh i am sure that once skong comes out there will be many and i mean it many people who are mad it's not just hollow knight with a new map and hornet

[cerulean sable]

then again i grew up knowing him as the dorito pope

[red mulch]

geoff is a snake

[unreal thicket]

One of this dude's is probably conductor Romino

[versed pollen]

yea the little dude on the right

[cerulean sable]

ill reserve my judgement because right now its obvious TC is so hell bent to holding off from putting big stuff

[weary tundra]

I don’t care about goty much too i’m just happy we got so many good games this year, and especially happy that everyone loves death stranding now

[cerulean sable]

amen dude

[unreal thicket]

Nevermind

[opaque sigil]

I mean yeah

but I'm thinking like shadow of the simurgh level weird

[unreal thicket]

They made this trio 6 months later after Nintendo treehouse

[weary tundra]

Keep on keeping on chat

[cerulean sable]

hey given deepnest, i dont think its off for TC to experiment to an extent

[weary tundra]

JERMA STREAM TOday

[cerulean sable]

we cant know for sure

but they were bold enough to say "yeah get dropped here and get lost, no going out, go fuck yourself"

[opaque sigil]

idk that I'd call deepnest that experimental

[cerulean sable]

experimental in regards to other hollow knight areas

its not the most wildest example compared to its contemporaries

[opaque sigil]

cot even does the same thing

[weary tundra]

I hope we get like really smooth movement

[cerulean sable]

deepnest was a lot more different tho

[weary tundra]

Like Metroid Dread-smooth

[cerulean sable]

like in the context of how youre meant to approach it

[unreal thicket]

Asshole knight

[cerulean sable]

we have wall up dashes well be fine

[weary tundra]

EGENDS

[opaque sigil]

I feel like a lot of that is more about the aesthetic than the actual mechanics of the area

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/afham-saul-goodman-better-call-saul-bob-odenkirk-jimmy-mcgill-gif-25559831

[cerulean sable]

id still argue the psychology is at least a lot more different than CoT

[weary tundra]

Moon jump please Berry Association 🙏

[versed pollen]

😨

[opaque sigil]

also a part of what I was talking about here would be something that can reframe combat or mobility in a unique way

not just areas doing weird stuff (though that's also ofc interesting)

[weary tundra]

https://youtu.be/zvk8_IqNfys?si=_WI4yjLyeO7RYYU_

“Lud i need you to put the entire character into a single song can you do that?”
“You got it Hideo”

[unreal thicket]

Main villains of Hornet - antlions

[opaque sigil]

e.g.

[weary tundra]

Man am i tired of that glowing outline damage indicator it was cool in Metroid Dread but now that every 3d metroidvania has that style it doesn’t look as good anymore

[opaque sigil]

dread is mid anyways

[weary tundra]

You shut your mouth

[opaque sigil]

constant boss reuse in a 6 hour game is indefensible

[weary tundra]

What about constant knife reuse in a 6 hour torture session, i wonder if you can defend against that

[cunning geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829112311678763109/979520572243456060/nam.gif

[cunning geode]

devil daggers

[opaque sigil]

the only real silver lining about dread is that there's so little game before the final boss which is pretty good in spite of the lackluster combat system

[weary tundra]

Bait

https://youtu.be/_W1P7AvV17w?si=UlLtA51n7UOMLsYl

[chilly crane]

I like this guy

[red mulch]

false

2nd best 2D metroid

[cunning geode]

behind faces of evil

[spare fractal]

Hey, I know another boss-reusing metroidvania, it's called Hollow Knight

yeah dread is peak

[opaque sigil]

hk reuses them less and it's a longer game

[cunning geode]

6 hours 5 minutes

indefensible

[opaque sigil]

there's also a world of difference between optional harder versions and just sticking the same boring asshole in the path three times

[spare fractal]

Dread's reused bosses nearly always increased in difficulty though...

[opaque sigil]

reading comprehension challenge

the role hk's reused bosses play is entirely different

[red mulch]

wait do you mean emmi or that dude with the twinblades?

[spare fractal]

Just because Hollow Knight's are optional and Dread's aren't doesn't make Dread any less amazing

And also Dread's boss fights are fucking cinema

[red mulch]

this

[opaque sigil]

dread isn't amazing because its combat is shit and its exploration is lackluster, boss fights are the only good part and a lot of those are forgettable as hell too

[red mulch]

what???

the combat in dread is great what are you smoking

[dusk pilot]

Smoke

[red mulch]

and i'm getting called a ragebaiter smh

[cunning geode]

i thought dread was pretty fun to blast through it wasn’t very long and that’s alright

[spare fractal]

Did we play the same game???? Are you sure you didn't play the NES Metroid by chance?
Dread has the best combat in the mainline series along with Samus Returns

[cunning geode]

remember he’s a fire emblem player

[opaque sigil]

that says more about the rest of the series than anything else

[red mulch]

imo dread being short works amazingly for the game

[cunning geode]

ye

[opaque sigil]

that would be fine but it's stupid that they then went the boss reuse spam method of padding

[cunning geode]

byeah

[red mulch]

and idk i loved dread's combat, esp combined with its movement and traversal. like controlling samus feels so damn good

[opaque sigil]

which is just why

worst of both worlds

[red mulch]

and idk i never felt like there was any padding. the fight you're referring to has such a nice, natural difficulty growth that i did not mind it at all

[opaque sigil]

the actual areas are also super uninteresting visually and conceptually

[toxic meteor]

Hi, when is Silksong releasing?

[red mulch]

i mean sure they do follow the series tropes but who cares they are super fun to traverse

[red mulch]

Q2 2026

[toxic meteor]

Q2?

[red mulch]

my bet

[toxic meteor]

What is Q2?

[cerulean sable]

@cunning geode im ETF2L invite levels now honestly

[dusk pilot]

Skong tommorow

[toxic meteor]

Am confused

[cerulean sable]

Quarter 2

[red mulch]

skong cancelled

[cerulean sable]

Jan to Mar - Quarter 1
Apr to Jun - Quarter 2
Jul to Sep - Quarter 3
Oct to Dec - Quarter 4

[toxic meteor]

Is that confirm?

[cerulean sable]

no

hes joking

its still set for 2025

[spare fractal]

The current release window is sometime in 2025, before the holidays.

[cerulean sable]

we just dont know when

there is no "slight chance it may not come out this year"

that came from an official statement

[toxic meteor]

What… so we have to wait even longer

[spare fractal]

Ah okay then take what I said about that as a lie

[cerulean sable]

so far all of the official claim still points at 2025

[toxic meteor]

Why is it taking so long

[cerulean sable]

aight

[red mulch]

scope creep and development hell

[cerulean sable]

cuz some people are doomering so hard theyre pushing out that its not gonna come out this year a as a fact

[spare fractal]

Dude, be patient. Games take time to develop.

[toxic meteor]

No idea what that means

[cerulean sable]

christ sake guys we still have 5 months left

bait used to be believable

[red mulch]

yep that's me

[cerulean sable]

or so the kids say

[open narwhal]

ew hkmain

[red mulch]

development hell = problems during the game development leading to significant delay
scope creep = when a project becomes too big for its own good and is hard to manage

[spare fractal]

I heard that silksong might not come out in 2025 from somewhere and turns out it was a straight up lie.
I believed the bait...

[opaque sigil]

delays aren't impossible but anyone arguing it's likely is baiting or dumb

[red mulch]

it won't come out in 2025 dw

[dapper dove]

they need to get mad at something so they just make it up

[spare fractal]

man if Aluo was here he'd be laughing so much at me right now...

[red mulch]

i don't even want to be mad, i just like it when the most pessimistic scenario i come up with turns out to be true

[toxic meteor]

So it might not come out this year?

[opaque sigil]

womp womp

[cerulean sable]

i mean yeah ofc, im basically saying people who are already running the fact that some official source said it will

its the same shit we hae to go through where some people are literally arguing in bad faith that the game was delayed endlessly on repeat, when theres literally 1 official delay and that was 2023, and even Leth said he didnt agree with it

[spare fractal]

No, it will come out this year.

[cunning geode]

tactical defusing

[red mulch]

with a bonus when my pessimistic scenario is not true and things are better than i expected them to be which makes me even happier

[toxic meteor]

What? Why do some people want the game to get delayed

[dusk pilot]

They are doubters and deniers do not listen to them

[toxic meteor]

I came here to ask a simple question and I still don’t understand what is going on

So is it coming this year or not????

[median fractal]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

yes

[cunning geode]

buddy

[dapper dove]

it literally is

[weary tundra]

It is

[median fractal]

Simple answer

[slate wagon]

yes don’t believe the doubters

[red mulch]

no

[spare fractal]

Let me explain it to you in a simple way.
Silksong comes out this year before the holidays.

[spare fractal]

Dude stop

[red mulch]

never stop doubting

[toxic meteor]

I think you are troll

[dusk pilot]

Yes

He is

[oblique musk]

There’s a slight chance of anything. There’s a slight chance a meteor simultaneously hits the houses of everyone in this server.

[red mulch]

i am a doomer not a troll how many times do i have to say this

[opaque sigil]

there's a slight chance of WHAT

[dusk pilot]

Doomers are trolls

[dapper dove]

if only

[dusk pilot]

Only if

[red mulch]

i was called a ragebaiter when i said that skong won't be featured during the direct and look who's laughing now

[weary tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-meteor-baseball-what-would-you-do-in-this-situation-intervene-gif-13793760805644525184

[toxic meteor]

Why would it be featured in the direct?

[dusk pilot]

U need to win everytime we only need to win once

[red mulch]

that is true and i really wish you won

[cerulean sable]

FANDOM:
**2019 **- it looks finished already, but its not out yet because its delayed

**2021 **- Leth said it was finished already, but its not out so its delayed

**2023 **- Xbox event said its within the year, but its delayed

**2025 **- we didnt get it on an event and we still have no release date, so itll be delayed

ACTUALS:
**2019 **- no indications other than people thinking E3 demo = its almost finished (it wasnt, TC even said it was far off)

**2021 **- Leth was using an example to talk about how he would approach it on games IN GENERAL and used it as an example, but people took his words out of context, so no the game wasnt close to being finished yet either

**2023 **- Xbox asked TC in 2022 if they would release next year , they said "i mean thats the plan right?" and Xbox just fucking mouthed out that its within the next year. Leth himself said he disagrees with it personally but they just went with it

**2025 **- literally no official statement that its delayed again, its literally only mentioned by the absolute miserable spreading misinfo

[dusk pilot]

Holy rant

[cerulean sable]

stating this because ive seen people throw out how it was "endlessly repeatedly delayed"

when the actuals is that we were delayed ONCE

and that was 2023

[oblique musk]

I agree with all of this, but at the same time I do think it’s kinda strange that nobody at TC thought to say something like “hey man Xbox is capping” until basically right before the end of the window.

[toxic meteor]

This server is confusing

[dusk pilot]

And it was most prob due to covid

[weary tundra]

I’m gonna do to you what they did to the original Jerma when got replaced with the current one

[red mulch]

as is info about skong

[toxic meteor]

No

[cerulean sable]

my guess is, in their perspective they were like "yeah we dont have final goal post but like any devs, if we can finish it within next year that would be great" and just went with it hoping theyd reach the deadline, if they do thats great

[dusk pilot]

They prob tried to actually release it before the deadline

[toxic meteor]

You just present it in a confusing way

[cerulean sable]

they already said Covid didnt affect them

[dusk pilot]

What happened to jerma

[opaque sigil]

I mean per the Leth comment they probably at one point actually thought they would hit that so

[spare fractal]

DUDE, STOP. You're making it more confusing for the person who just wants to know when the game's coming out!

[rapid abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-but-they-got-him-ted-ted-series-yeah-but-they-got-him-ted-gif-7724380870473250815

[red mulch]

i mean it is confusing

[cerulean sable]

afaik peeps in adelaide said they opened up pretty quickly because everyone was following protocol, and TC themselves was a small enough team that restrictions didnt apply to them

[red mulch]

"hey guys there won't be a new demo" "oop here's a demo"

[weary tundra]

You think you wanna know but believe me you don’t

[dusk pilot]

Ok

I wont ask

[red mulch]

"day one on the new console" "we are not tied to a console release"

[slate wagon]

i’m pretty sure they just said they won’t make a new demo for the museum exhibit thing
which like i’m not an expert but ion think that’s this

[weary tundra]

Are you genuinely stupid just like asking to clarify not assuming anything

[oblique musk]

That’s fair. They were probably at that middle ground of confidence that they weren’t gonna announce the window themselves, but wouldn’t push back against Xbox (unintentionally) doing it for them.

[red mulch]

like leth's wording can be confusing sometimes and i still think that while not malicious, the "no demo for acmi" was quite misleading

[median fractal]

What... that was just bad wording on xbox's end and a confirmation

[red mulch]

i am geniuinely stupid

[cerulean sable]

thank you

[toxic meteor]

Ok thank you everyone else who actually answered by questions

my

[spare fractal]

No problem

[dusk pilot]

Also a skong demo at gamescom in cologne germany

[red mulch]

yep this is quite exciting actually

[dusk pilot]

It is

Someones mom gonna play it

[red mulch]

can't wait to see the footage tbh

[weary tundra]

Colon germany

[cerulean sable]

ive seen peeps in the sub where there arguments boil down to

"TC has broken so many promises"
"And which one"
"All of them, theyve been constantly failing promises"
"which promise"
"the 2023 release"
"and anything else other than that?"

and often ends there lmao

[swift sand]

yeah genuinely can't for the life of me understand the good percentage of this community that thinks silksong info is owed to them

[weary tundra]

7 hour mossbag vido

[dusk pilot]

Entitled children

[dapper dove]

parasocial relationship with tc atp

[oblique musk]

Yeah, well I had a dream where William Pellen personally told me Silksong was coming out April 29th, which was clearly him using the Dream Nail to communicate with me!

[median fractal]

True lmao

[oblique musk]

What about that promise, huh?

[red mulch]

imo it's more that people are frustrated that they have no concrete info and feel like it's being dangled in front of their faces

[brittle garnet]

Xbox specifically said "it will be playable on the console at launch" which i think is understandable as it comes out before the console, but confusion is also understandable.
As for "i dont think we will be doing a new demo" that was a message in a Streamer's chat. It was just chatting, not an official statement and certainly not definitive.

[dusk pilot]

He broke it willam is a bad person

[swift sand]

yeah

||...fuckin why||

[weary tundra]

I like those videos with that crazy guy in glasses and a beard and receding hairline that people say is Ari as a joke they’re really funny

[red mulch]

idk people are butthurt they aren't going to play the demo ig

[brittle garnet]

Well its still on them for not recognizing that's not the case.

[red mulch]

oooh big scary spoilers

"every enemy shown is a spoiler" my brother in christ you can just not look

[cerulean sable]

Im still in the camp the reason Leth is comming this way is that hes kinda in the middle of "i cant speak official on TC's behalf but i can relay the stuff im personally opinionated with the information i have with them"

[dusk pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/spoiler-alert-spoiler-go-time-gif-13921804794138892823

So scary

[cerulean sable]

and the half wording is mostly just a way of not being commital about shit

overall hes just working with what he has

[brittle garnet]

Its literally
"The scenario i dreamed up didnt happen, how could Team Cherry do this to me!?"

[red mulch]

yeah, i think he'd really want to say more than he can lol

[opaque sigil]

I mean even this seems like overthinking it

[cerulean sable]

i was just about to say

i feel like people are also overexaggerating his words

to the single detail

[dusk pilot]

Leth says it like this because he is hired by tc he is not tc

[red mulch]

yeah but keeping the scarcity of the info in mind can you blame them?

[brittle garnet]

Yes

100%

[dusk pilot]

I love this channel when normal people are here

[dusk pilot]

He is aight

[oblique musk]

How dare you say that about me

[dusk pilot]

Sowwy u are not normal

[weary tundra]

Also yeah that’s a fucking insult i’m not normal

Take that back

[oblique musk]

I hate that this fleshy abomination is still recognizably Jerma. The man is a goddamn Ship of Theseus

[weary tundra]

Waiting for rain to fall i love rain do you guys like rain

[cerulean sable]

seriously when you read through the lines

so much of the "TC lied to us" was literally made out of assumption

[oblique musk]

I love rain, especially at night.

[cerulean sable]

"IT HAS TO COME OUT HERE BECAUSE-"

then it doesnt

and then suddenly its TCs fault, and this keeps going

and going

and going

[chilly crane]

I fu king love this app

[cerulean sable]

and suddenly theyve made themselves a false narrative that apparently TC has been lying to them these past few years 🥴

how the fuck do you lose by doing literally nothing

[oblique musk]

“Kendrick will never perform at the Super Bowl”
“I CAN DO ANYTHING”

[weary tundra]

I mean the only thing thing team cherry did that i don’t like is just staying quiet for a long time, that’s my only gripe other than that i can’t wait for the game

[dusk pilot]

Be in the be active competetion

[red mulch]

i mean people making up narratives inside their heads is directly fueled by lack of info, like the blog which hasn't been updated for nearly 6 years

[chilly crane]

And when I wake up

[shell yacht]

Some of these people are willfully ignorant and ignore the things that we did get

[chilly crane]

It is pretty funny that they just straight up abandoned the blog

[red mulch]

cause ultimately we do not have a lot

[weary tundra]

https://youtu.be/aMwkhTNmofA?si=mjz5b5UtKMd0im5C standing in rain while listening to this is the most magical thing on earth

[dusk pilot]

Its like a building that got abandoned after holidahs

[brittle garnet]

Everyone is still responsible for their own behavior

[cerulean sable]

and tell whos responsibility should that be?

[red mulch]

ofc it's their own

[brittle garnet]

Nobody "made" them into assholes

[shell yacht]

Most games are lucky to get two trailers before it releases what are you talking about

[cerulean sable]

yeah, but some people dont see it that way

[oblique musk]

Mine. Sorry guys.

[red mulch]

it's reasoning, not a justification

[cerulean sable]

not forgiven, sorry

[cerulean sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816306195500498974/1400779404057251862/caption.gif

[weary tundra]

I mean other than their parents

[dusk pilot]

Forvige him

[copper shore]

whatever you guys are talking about idc

[oblique musk]

Slander! I am not one of them!

[weary tundra]

Then leave?

[dusk pilot]

He is

[red mulch]

it's not that much about a trailer but more about them using like very small scraps of info at a time

[copper shore]

hello

[dusk pilot]

What small pieces of info

[cunning geode]

imagine saying this to people irl

[brittle garnet]

And there is a degree of separation in peoples mind between game developers as companies and the real people who work there, so they feel bold enough to be justified in their anger

[copper shore]

LOL

[weary tundra]

Imagine saying this

[shell yacht]

I don't know what you're trying to argue but no matter what you're comparing to you don't have a point, the fact that the indie devs gave this much info and that many trailers already is insane compared to most games

[red mulch]

and it's been always through a third party this year, be it a switch 2 announcement or skong being used as promo material for that new xbox thing, nothing dedicated to the game itself

[red mulch]

hasn't it been a standard for indie devs to kinda update their audiences constantly? lol

[pallid plinth]

none of you are devs.... shhhh

[shell yacht]

That literally doesn't make sense

[opaque sigil]

eeeeh in this case it seems more like the opposite problem, the smaller team making it easier to do the parasocial nonsense plus being an indie

[weary tundra]

Hideo Kojima is a starving indie dev sorry guys

[shell yacht]

Usually they update people who paid for it

Nobody has paid for silk song yet besides the backers

[red mulch]

small indie dev shigeru miyamoto

[brittle garnet]

There isnt really a standard

[pallid plinth]

shiggy

[dusk pilot]

Backers are legit the most chill about the wait

[weary tundra]

r/tomorrow user spotted, 300 copies of Celeste ordered

[cerulean sable]

peeps keep putting toby fox but hes more of an exception

[oblique musk]

“A delayed game is bad. A rushed game is bad. I fucking hate video games and making them.”

[opaque sigil]

they were old enough to have money in like 2014 is that any surprise

[dusk pilot]

They legit use exception as the rule

[red mulch]

again i am not justifying the entitlement, i just kinda want to get to the bottom of where that comes from bc it's so widespread that it's worth looking at. ofc a significant portion of that is r/skong groupthink but yknow it comes from somewhere

[shell yacht]

Children who don't understand anything that is the answer

[dapper dove]

thats the year most silksong people were born

[weary tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184257191746752583/1397641807562805368/6524RedLizardJr.Bucket.gif

[dusk pilot]

Except for the tisso guy

[shell yacht]

It's not that deep there's not some singular person who was slighted by somebody who's riling everybody up, children are just stupid

[brittle garnet]

Its literally just groupthink and appealing to people's emotions

[weary tundra]

We’re all 11 years old down here….

[opaque sigil]

the reddit existing as an echo chamber definitely doesn't help

[dusk pilot]

All social media is a echo chamber tbh

[oblique musk]

Speaking of, I’m gonna go check in on how they’re doing. Wish me luck everyone!

[dapper dove]

tos moment

[opaque sigil]

to greatly varying degrees

[mossy sail]

Nah , my social media is good, its those other guys who are bad!

[pallid plinth]

Discord is the most free thinking social media

[dusk pilot]

Its never me its the others

[dapper dove]

my echo chamber is better than yours

[weary tundra]

FUCKING RAIN ALREADY

[copper shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317464848669343817/1350065262954680361/cohort_takeover.gif

[dusk pilot]

No i am drinking all the rain

[pallid plinth]

boys with time machine

[copper shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1354577144440688736/1356243022899052634/LEGION_LEADER.gif

[oblique musk]

You know, it’s not terrible today.

[weary tundra]

200000 units are ready with a million more well on the way

[copper shore]

hoo hah tiki tiki

[dusk pilot]

No way u just didnt do it properly my echo chamber told me they all were the worst

[weary tundra]

How do hollow knight bugs reproduce

[oblique musk]

Same way as normal bugs.

[copper shore]

interpropiate !

[weary tundra]

Bugs don’t exist in real life

Nice try

[cerulean sable]

ill put this bluntly, yes i have my own reservation with TC's comms and ive been frustrated a couple of times before, but thats it
given the past few years its obvious theres nothing thats gonna change that

r/silksong houses a special case of dumbfucks in that they genuinely believe by complaining enough they will bring karmic wrath on TC unless they refuse to change and apologize

im here frustrated but im not wasting my time 24/7 being outright miserable, in reality these people just loves playing the victim complex

[marsh ibex]

if i see another national girlfriend day post from my friends I might lose it