sk-discussion

[silk zodiac]

I still can’t believe we got a pvz heroes reference in the trailer I’m so fucking happy

[twin zealot]

Its not silkover guys, what if they were testing us. Dreams in hollow knight is something bad, something that blind us. We don’t have to fall for Radiance we must listen TC silksong is coming, its here, its happening we have to wait a bit. But we run most of it, we are at pure vessel in p5 we can’t abandon because of Radiance

[patent heath]

[fair vault]

I hope SS gets delayed to spite my friends who have only waited a month and are already impatient for the game

[brittle garnet]

I dont understand this sentiment. Harmful how??

[finite lake]

Waiting

[shell yacht]

Oh yes the professional take from the commentator on the internet

[lament coyote]

How can people read "yisrael" as "yisreal" wtf 😭

[lavish storm]

I know the guy who made dryyas theme is looking for work, CarsonComposes? You need one?

[languid jasper]

see? That's why I actually want a release date, to avoid that kind of scenarios

[shell yacht]

Who is not related at all to the profession

[errant hollow]

i think they just care abt the game theyre making man

[verbal valve]

“expect more details closer to release”
are we not close enough

[dim garnet]

This has always been Nintendo of America's fault imo. If you were old enough to catch some E3s back in the day, Nintendo always had some goofy shit going on

[warm silo]

my only real problem with this is… ITS BEEN 7 YEARS, and like legitimately this community grows toxic about it, at least do one big piece of news every year giving us a “hey we are at this stage of development doin this” or somethin.

and before anyone says or ask, go play other games? i do lmao i rarely interact with this community

[iron spear]

Is that TC marketing it or did they just make a deal with those things and they are the ones marketing it??

[full ledge]

Idk it happens a lot though

[granite adder]

What does this mean 😭

[abstract geyser]

Well the only "confirmed" date we have its 2028 😂

[jolly plaza]

He pinged Leth! Say your goodbyes

[ember granite]

Honestly this sounds so right. Like HK wasn't that big when it initially came out and it was their first proper game. I can imagine they are just used to kinda working on a game at their own pace, probably the same way they developed HK. If I were to guess they probably just got a little unexpectedly dragged into all this other third party stuff back in 2019 which obviously was way too early

[pulsar roost]

They have self sabotaged to an extent, lost a lot of goodwill from the fanbase.

[floral void]

Do you guys really think the staff have notifications on, come on, stop pinging them

[hybrid stone]

yeah lowkey how is not getting informatiom harmful i dont get it either

[shell bough]

he literally does update us every once in a while idk what yall expect from him

[zealous warren]

bro stop talking about israel in the hollow knight discord buddy no politics here 🙏🏻😔

[pulsar roost]

I wouldn’t be surprised if people who wanted to get skong have given up on tc and won’t buy it

[shell yacht]

People who don't work in publishing or PR or game development commenting on the communications of a Dev team that has no obligation to do any communication means absolutely jack shit. The community riles itself up, the community gets mad at itself. That's not their fault

[nova ravine]

If anyone is self sabotaging it’s the fanbase

[cerulean sable]

also yeah its been reinstated theyre terminally offline even prior to HK

not saying im a fan of how they do it but its whatever

[ember granite]

This seems pretty accurate, they're probably locked into some sorta third party deal that has backfired on them

[finite lake]

I know someone like that

[unique gazelle]

98% of the community is chill and waits for the game peacefully yall are just weird sometimes

[brittle garnet]

I think this is cap. Some people are vocally and performatively upset but ultimately the subreddit is an extremely small vocal minority of the so called fanbase.

[tidal ruin]

Communication is great, but having more of it won't make the game come out sooner or better
Still understand some of the complaints, but not the ones about the partner direct

[crisp edge]

indeed

[unreal thicket]

I hoping they will announce Fearless Fox not too early like Silksong

[static bay]

The more days go by without any public responses the more this feels true

[red zealot]

Seriously

[twin zealot]

Silksong is happening where are my hopeful fan of April. We never been that close, we got 5 months max to wait and we will play silksong, we will be there to enjoy the hype, it never been silksover and it will never be. I trust in leth, i trust in TC

[pulsar roost]

I don’t think you guys know how marketing works

[quaint yarrow]

I just woke up should I get the confetti or the clown makeup

[cerulean sable]

the only takeway is Leth is getting used as a punching bag when its been obs for the past 4 years his hands are tied and he cant do shit

[errant hollow]

this is silly

[hybrid stone]

they are literally making an sequel to a game rather than just a dlc like they promised

[iron spear]

Them giving updates to you all this time would have had no effect on the release date anyway. You would have still had to wait.

[lost brook]

I believe in pre-gamescom release for no particular reason, just hopeful like that

[silk zodiac]

pvz remaster get confetti

[zealous warren]

you will be the first guy to blow them when they finally drop news

[woeful matrix]

hey guys why dont we just be happy and wait for the game to come out

[abstract geyser]

gamepass

[lament coyote]

Neither.

[twin zealot]

Both !

[strange gulch]

you should make a prequel titled "Fall of Yisreal"

[tidal axle]

yeah not communicating with your fan base is a peak marketing scheme

[warm silo]

im not sure how it harms themselves, but it does hurt the community, look at this chat people are just arguing about how people behave with the silksong wait, or how people defend tc.

all of this a result from lack of news.

[livid oracle]

Fairly certain Xbox has the marketing rights

[unique gazelle]

Exactly, just play other stuff cmon

[unreal thicket]

Guess i have time to beat Elden Ring

[tranquil wraith]

xbox is farming engagement by showing silksong clips, nintendo is farming engagement by not showing silksong clips life goes on
i would like it delayed to 2026 so we can say la sagrada familia and gta vi before silksong

[shell yacht]

Your server tag being purple makes me think it stands for Barney the big purple dinosaur

[woeful matrix]

wait fr thats so comp

[cerulean sable]

leth already redid the blogsite and shit but not much he can do if TC doesnt use it as its not his jurisdiction to write them

[full ledge]

But then we would be able to be mad about them not updating us every 3 seconds instead

[quaint yarrow]

[ember granite]

Why? You don't think big corporations like Xbox and Nintendo would strike a deal that lets them market the game without prior consent of TC. Seems like that is driving up Direct views that's for sure

[lost brook]

nintendo farming by NOT doing something? what?

[unique gazelle]

You should try Nightreign if you liked ER, it's a very good spinoff

[granite adder]

They have no obligation to do any communication, of course. That is true. However that doesn't change the fact that even a little bit of communication would be immensely beneficial for the community, taking 5 minutes every month or so to give a little update to fans would not be remotely difficult. This level of silence just doesn't sit right with me especially when we keep getting Silksong demos and the like announced from tons of places. This feels like something that we need official word on

[floral void]

So who wants to play PvZ coop when it releases

[twin zealot]

If they say to much things about the game it will lost its Aura. We just need to wait

[pulsar roost]

This is what I’m saying, if tc weren’t closed off this community wouldn’t be known as a toxic one.

[dim garnet]

entering the realm of conspiracy theories lmao

[proper warren]

Guys we will literally hear from tc at ACMI about the game in september. You can wait that much

[pastel silo]

I dont care about when it comes out generally, but coming out after the ACMI stuff would definitely suck

[silk zodiac]

we literally got silksong clips in april

[red zealot]

It’s better than brony lol 💀

[unreal thicket]

Is Elden ring lore good?

[iron spear]

Yisrael's Yisrealife Yisraelacoster

[languid jasper]

ngl, i think people takes too seriously all the drama around comunication, people only craves when there is a direct or event, nobody is thinking 24/7 about the release date

[lament coyote]

"play other games" is not an argument. please, for fuck's sake, stop using this sentence as one

[full ledge]

How is not showing silksong clips engagement farming

[signal tinsel]

Come on, folks. This is not about wanting Silksong or not at this point. Team Cherry’s silence is particularly weird or, at least, atypical.

[shell yacht]

Little bits of communication get ignored the day after it happens, some people genuinely think nothing has happened for the last 5 to 6 years because they want to bitch and complain about absolutely nothing. You don't need anything because the community will ignore it

[pulsar roost]

It is incredible, genuinely incredible.

[terse scarab]

I don’t know what happened i missed something

[errant hollow]

i mean what else r u supposed to do other than b mad abt it

[livid oracle]

The game is most likely coming out later this year. Go touch some grass until then

[strange gulch]

• 9 Sols
• Ori
• Celeste
  are the games I'd recommend if someone is wating to scratch that Silksong itch

[zealous warren]

What if team cherry are actually bugs and the Hollow knight games are bug propaganda so we treat bugs better

[cerulean sable]

WERE STILL WINNING THIS YEAR THATS ALL THAT MATTERS TO ME RAHHH

[silk zodiac]

direct and pvz remaster

[tranquil wraith]

people tune in in hopes of news

[dapper dove]

you are all schizophrenic and cringe

[fair vault]

people are mad that nintendo direct did not have silksong, drama ensues

[unique gazelle]

"It's their fault I'm acting this way!"

[hybrid stone]

its not weird for them actually

[brittle garnet]

I dont think this is a result of a lack of news. People who act annoying and shitty wont just turn respectable and polite if they just had some more info about the upcoming game

[brave turret]

Do yall se the strings on his arms moss bag was right

[abstract geyser]

nothing happened

[lost brook]

CORRECT BROTHER RAAAHHHHHHHHHH

[errant hollow]

complaining isnt making the game come out any faster thats for sure

[woeful matrix]

so real
we got so much news this year i'm fine we didnt get any ss this direct

[tidal ruin]

Its less of an argument and more of a solution to a problem, I'm having mad fun with gtfo so I don't mind if the game takes another month or two
Same will be true whenever I find any other good game as well

[strange gulch]

great video game name idea. Make it a rollercoaster/amusement park simulator

[red zealot]

FACTS

[signal tinsel]

They started promoting Silksong with a development blog.

[full ledge]

So what exactly are they supposed to do for it to not be engagement farming

[terse scarab]

Oh then I’ll early play silksong

[cyan forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1259773308732182644/1330297466238664855/attachment.gif

[pulsar roost]

I think people (understandably so) have certain expectations of how a huge release should be marketed

[small crown]

@iron spear appreciate your perspective and after this mornings lack of news the sprinkle of background on TC has made me feel better

[dim garnet]

Going down the Celest rabbithole is definitely worth it. The base game is wonderful, and the community is still active and making custom maps to this day. There's a lot to play

[lean pendant]

Apparently the ants in Silksong are gonna be like the mantis tribe warriors, but much less friendly.

[unreal thicket]

I think the whole Silksong lore is about puppets

[pastel silo]

specifically in 7 weeks at most, unless TC dont give a damn about deep diving the game before launch lmao

[twin zealot]

Its their second games, they are testing stuff clearly. And if they were starting to talk a lot. It would be strange too, u know changing marketing strategy few months before games release

[warm silo]

guys ok so i have what is apparently a hot take

IM EXCITED FOR SILKSONG AND GET DISSAPPOINTED BY TEAM CHERRY NOT COMMINICATING

and thats ok, ill go play other games, but IM STILL ALLOWED TO BE DISSAPPOINTED, and i am in fact allowed to
CRITICIZE TEAM CHERRY FOR THIS
and dont act like im wrong for it, this community is toxic, because of lack of news so how about we just agree we alk want news regardless of what it is, as long as its longer then 2 sentences on twitter.

[lament coyote]

Not be mad at it. Plain and simple. You don't need any coping mechanisms for it to be a solution

[tranquil wraith]

we did! it was really nice

[shell yacht]

There's no understandably so about this, those people don't make or market games those people don't know how the sales work those people are not the people in control of the game being made? People's random ass opinions about how it should be handled do not matter

[ember granite]

I think I'm gonna lean on this being an issue of shady third party marketing deals for a team that actually just wanted to work on their game in peace like they've done before

[shell yacht]

You are here talking about the game the marketing is working

[near heath]

I'm sorry, but i think it's moreso about a tiny bit of presence and communication, not just the certainty of it releasing someday. Even then, the former two reinforce the latter trait and help foster trust

[lost brook]

Aside from silksanity, how many distinct areas do you guys think is gonna be in pharloom?

[cerulean sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816306195500498974/1358644007105728623/caption.gif

[brave turret]

Yeah

[cerulean sable]

RAHHHH

[unique minnow]

at least 1

[fair vault]

at least twice as many as in HK

[lament coyote]

Mad fun with what now :huh:

[shell yacht]

You don't need trust they're making a fucking video game what is this parasocial relationship shit?
You haven't paid for the product you're going to when it comes out or you won't

[tranquil wraith]

take it off the platform

[iron spear]

I'm telling you, one day you will play Silksong, fully complete it all, then just.... Thats it. The end of the journey. You will think back to all this insanity and love the journey TC took you on. You are all gonna cry. This will be the greatest video experience you have ever lived. The 7 years of insnaity into the best game you have ever played. I envy you all.

[silk zodiac]

yeah so how is nintendo not showing clips when they literally did

[vivid belfry]

be mad at team cherry: unproductive, makes you hate something you used to love
be mad at square enix: productive, hating on something you've never played for clout

[near heath]

I don't see a way in which everyone comes out happy and healthy from this huge wait and radio silence

[unreal thicket]

Or 20 big areas, or 40 small areas

[devout halo]

I think like like 5 more than HK

[floral void]

I admire your patience regarding these discussions

[hybrid stone]

probably like 20

[shell bough]

i wish gaming showcases that don't include silksong would stop happening so the community here stops recycling this tired conversation about how team cherry has no obligation to communicate with us but should because we have been waiting for too long after every single event

[ancient nexus]

What about the kickstarter backers?

[zealous warren]

I hate team cherry 😡🤬🤬🤬 No communication 😈😈😈🤬🤬🤬😡😡 Only the wait 💀💀💀🪦🪦🪦🪦no news… 😭😭😭😭 Team cherry 🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😈😈😈 Australia 😡🤬🤬😈😈😈🕷️🕷️🕷️🕷️🕸️🦂🦂🦂🦂

[dim garnet]

Might be shooting myself in the foot here, but I expect this game to be BIG. Either by having significantly more areas than HK, or those areas being way bigger

[silk zodiac]

it is bigger

[warm silo]

eh maybe your right, im probably just in a bad discord that gets toxic about skong.

but the fact is this community DOES have some extra toxicity from lack of news and half of it acts like team cherry can do no wrong, and if you say they do, you get shot down immediately.

[pulsar roost]

I don’t think you understand. Fostering a healthy fanbase is important and GOOD for your product, doing the inverse simply isn’t, you don’t want a toxic fanbase.

[tidal ruin]

I do, its called playing the game when it releases

[lapis fog]

I take it there was no silksong news in the direct?

[vivid belfry]

the most wishlisted game on steam needs a new trailer SOON or it will be a financial failure

[unreal thicket]

TC stated that Silksong is "very large" so yeah

[lost brook]

I hope that there arent so many areas that each feel empty or kinda thin of resources, a similar amount of areas to HK but just bigger/denser would be better imo

[shell yacht]

Kickstarter backers are entitled to complain directly to TC through the avenues that they have available exclusively to them, nothing that the kickstarters are owed is something that would be made public. Again does not matter to all these whiny children

[livid oracle]

Can’t wait 🤙🏼

[strange gulch]

unless... TC makes another game? Then maybe, it's not an end of a journey, but yet another chapter awaiting for you to experience

[kind ermine]

Well well well

[silk zodiac]

the map is like over twice the size of hk so yeah

[vivid belfry]

There was almost nothing at the direct

[red zealot]

Honestly I think tc is tired of the fans lol

[warm silo]

if your mocking me you have me wrong i dont hate team cherry but i will not act like they are perfect

[errant hollow]

silksong was a dlc project which ended up becoming its own game tbh im not even sure how that works now

[granite adder]

This channel would not be nearly this toxic if any Team Cherry dev sent out even a single personal message about the game's progress. That's not a stretch. Look at how Toby Fox communicates. Even though he has long dev cycles with relatively little actually being revealed about the game, this kind of outrage simply does not happen because he's personal and simply says stuff like "development is going well, can't wait to release the next chapters!" it does wonders for the community

[pulsar roost]

I don’t blame them honestly

[woeful matrix]

square enix and platinum please make nier 3 and

[lapis fog]

guess that ain't know

[brittle garnet]

I can agree on getting some official words on stuff such as demos, but otherwise? An update every month, for lile 5 years now, and mind you i think these updates would have to contain zero actual game information. The community would be just as mad about nothingburger updates. I GUARANTEE you, if this was the case from the start, people would now be complaining that "they should have just stayed silent instead of getting our hopes up with useless updates", because updates about "state of development" are pointless, and spoiling new content would only be detrimental to the experience of the actual game

[ancient nexus]

True true, you make a fair point

[cerulean sable]

yeah i have fought on all over 8 silkwars spanning from 2019 to 2025

im meh with TCs comms but unless they spit out a bad game or do actual heinous shit, idgaf

for my side will fucking win. Silksong is SILKSOON

[unique gazelle]

Yakuza on Switch is pretty fire tho

[dim garnet]

Arent the backers getting Silksong for free?

[near heath]

yeah fair nuff, to each their own really, not everyone needs regular updates but with a community THIS large? IMO at least yearly updates coulda helped a bit

[unique minnow]

they are perfect. just not for you

[frozen pike]

Silksong today?

[vivid belfry]

I feel like there's a new switch yakuza at every direct, it's expected now

[errant hollow]

we have no metric of how much tc used of the kickstarter earnings for silksong (i doubt it was a lot)

[granite adder]

Sorry this is a public chat form I should probably stop dropping essays

[livid oracle]

Ya if you’ve been around since 2019 it ain’t that big of a deal lol

[shell yacht]

I've been here for 5+ years watching them go absolutely fucking nuts 2 days after an announcement because they think they need more news, the community is the problem and you will never convince a sane individual otherwise

[fair vault]

and then we'll go back to being insane for TC's next game

[zealous warren]

I hate team cherryy 🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡 Grrr Team cherryy 😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🍇🍇🍇🍇🍇🤬🤬🤬🤬 Never esting cherries again after this

[pulsar roost]

[floral void]

Watch Kiwami 3 debut on switch 2

[red zealot]

Also every time people whine and complain they forget we’re getting not one but 2 demos

[languid jasper]

fr, I get some people go way beyond and are actually messed up, but most of us just want to play the game, hope to see news, is not worng to be annoyed by yhe lack to news while still looking foward to the Gamescon and the ACMI presentation

[pastel silo]

yea updates are whatever , but a clarification on whether we should expect the game prior or after the acmi would be nice... many people will be buying those tickets only for playable silksong

[unique gazelle]

Still better than nothing, I do need to finish the series at some point

[zealous warren]

Im just brainrotting not mocking you 👍🏻

[tidal ruin]

Thats actually some subject of complaints

[unreal thicket]

Imagine Silksong boss rush

[unique minnow]

i bet you would never play a game made by a company you hate

[mortal bluff]

Hell nah, ima wait for the dlc and then I’m putting them off the radar. Never will I wait for another team cherry game.

[lapis fog]

I will say one thing about australians. Apathy is the default setting and we often pretend to not be super passionate about anything.. accept sports I suppose. Maybe Team Cherry are just being typical aussies lol

[vivid belfry]

I haven't gotten into yakuza or katamari so this direct actually had nothing

[pulsar roost]

Probably going to be the same demo 2 times but sure

[lost brook]

I think the extreme believer vs doubter subculture is whats toxic, just be excited but realistic until game launch

[vivid belfry]

PvZ rerelease? I did that one already

[fair vault]

I walked into ACMI free of charge twice
iirc you won't need to pay for tickets but things might change

[unique minnow]

imagination challenge done. next one please

[torpid fractal]

i feel like the people who pretend that their communication is not an issue have just collectively forgotten that they never thought to correct the xbox release window being wrong by a factor of years

[orchid locust]

i'm so unbothered by silksong i ain't even watch the nintendo showcase what happened

[unreal thicket]

It might be so long and so hard

[zealous warren]

Black rock 😳😳😳🤯🤯

[silk zodiac]

pvz remaster

[dim garnet]

I'd be disappointed if Silksong doesn't get pantheons, the lore reason is already there anyways

[errant hollow]

their complaints arent unfounded is the thing, just bc theyre showing stuff now doesnt mean they havent been objectively rly quiet abt development

[pastel silo]

it's in australia tho , most people cant easily go there

[signal tinsel]

Has Team Cherry even retweeted or acknowledged the Nintendo Direct of April? Outside of Leth in a Discord. I don’t remember a developer being that disconnected.

[tidal ruin]

The only thing at the direct I cared about was hyrule warriors, and I don't care about it that much because I'm gonna pass on it and all future nintendo products

[livid oracle]

They are just real artists and also nerds. Not that hard to understand why they are how they are lol

[glossy berry]

katamari was there i think

[floral void]

Good time to start with Yakuza 0 then I'd say

[orchid locust]

holy W

[lapis fog]

welp I'm off to r/silksong to watch the writhing in pain lmaO

[fair vault]

If you're unhinged enough to fly overseas to play a game I don't know what to say

[pulsar roost]

Leth is part of the core of team cherry (pun intended) so yes they have acknowledged it through him

[unreal thicket]

The last time they're communicated is several months ago on Kickstarter

[tidal ruin]

Its not devs job to do that, their job is to develop
Its the community manager's job to do that, and he did

[warm silo]

oh i agree im gonna buy skong and love it but that doesnt change how… depressing the wait was, at times it was fun sure but most of the time its just kinda insane.

you know whay wait on a game was fun? deltarune
there was so many high quality fan games, fan songs, au’s, theories, etc,
obviously hk we dont really have enough info about skong to get all that unlike deltarune.
but it also helped that toby would just pop in every few months and just say something like “chapter 3 is almost done just needs translated, and chapter 4 is midway through development” and either give more details or just say something random lmao.

[signal tinsel]

In a Discord…

[unique gazelle]

Eh, there will be more directs in the future, hopefully better stuff next time. Though I hope we don't get too many Switch 2 exclusives, the old one is still perfectly functional for new releases

[gray leaf]

Some people have lots of cashmoney

[granite adder]

Bottom line is, the severe lack of communication is unprofessional and disheartening to the millions of fan eager to play the game. That is a valid criticism, regardless of how much I love Team Cherry as a whole

[orchid locust]

blackrock grand strategy asset management game would go hard

[languid jasper]

just don't take it too seriously, that's more of a roleplay than a genuine issue

[brittle garnet]

The abnormal thing here is how much fans care about 3 seconds of a sizzle reel, TC not acknowledging it is perfectly normal

[normal merlin]

Can we all kiss

[red mulch]

if 2026 is soon then yea sure

[pulsar roost]

On twitter aswell

[pastel silo]

okay but the tickets point still stands

[red zealot]

Welp if it’s true tc doesn’t want to spoil the demo won’t show much or the game will drop before

[tidal ruin]

So the social media site he said it on influences the chances he's just lying to us?

[vivid belfry]

I think switch 2's biggest problem rn is that almost all of the switch 1 library isn't properly compatible with it (except no man's sky for some fucking reason?)

[signal tinsel]

Okay, missed it: that’s more normal.

[warped umbra]

I regret looking at r/silksong its an absolute echochamber of brain-dead people in there

[unreal thicket]

Why are you guys so scared about demo spoilers, I'm scared about ACMI spoilers

[cerulean sable]

ive been with the fandom since 2017, so the discourse isnt new to me anymore lmao

im so over it, its why post Direct react was its aight, AUGUST LETS FUCKING GOOOO

[tidal ruin]

I'm going in for a dip rq

[unique gazelle]

It's WHAT

[dim garnet]

the biggest problem is the damn prices lol

[signal tinsel]

…the announcement that it would be released in 2025 is not important news?

[lost brook]

I do believe that a 2025 release would make the most sense, otherwise these PR events are kind apointless

[red zealot]

That’s true but it seems people expect to get news from these directs

[shell yacht]

How about the fact that they have three exclusive games and the full setup costs about as much as a PS5 pro I think that's a pretty big downer for switch fanatics

[granite adder]

The vast majority of the Switch 1's library is compatible with the Switch 2, the list of games that aren't is like 100 games long

[red robin]

Ikr? Community hypes itself up and then gets angry when there are no updates

[near heath]

I wish life were this simple and we could all forget the radio silence so easily, but alas i don't want TC to repeat this weird means of communication for their future endeavors 😔

[warped umbra]

You are going to regret it

[vivid belfry]

I would honestly have been more excited about compatibility updates for old games than the newest cycle of madden and just dance

[errant hollow]

only good part is the sub logo

[torpid fractal]

Echochamber
Look inside
People disagreeing with eachother

[serene chasm]

Noooo dont do it

[unique gazelle]

Why even buy the damn thing then??? Then again another No Man's Sky W

[floral void]

Clearly the new smash isn't ready yet so we get to deal with this slop for now

[vivid belfry]

I mean actually programmed to run on switch 2, not through an emulator

[unreal thicket]

Demo spoilers are nothing, ACMI spoilers are everything

[pulsar roost]

To clarify he retweeted the Nintendo tweet about silksong launching in 2025

[livid oracle]

Ya like we know it’s prob coming out this year. 2 events with demos coming up. It’s gonna he ok lol

[errant hollow]

(lacenet yuri ftw)

[cerulean sable]

make no mistake we need to destroy r silksong someday but thats another discussion

[tired oyster]

or fucking ports of the two most beloved gamecube/wii u legend of zelda games

[silk zodiac]

yes that too but some games are literally unplayable and crashing all the time, pikmin 3 was like that for a long ass time and they still sold it at 60.00

[vivid belfry]

every game that isn't no man's sky is capped at 720p in handheld so it actually looks worse on switch 2 than switch 1

[gray leaf]

True...

[fair vault]

noted. do not send you 3598 pics from acmi

[strange gulch]

r/silksong is meant to be enjoyed with a bucket of popcorn and a drink of your choice

[lost brook]

And echochamber with 2 and only 2 compartments is still an echochamber'

[pulsar roost]

Im so excited for the interview notes from team cherry, im so curious about this dev cycle

[red zealot]

I mean why would it be a different demo

[livid oracle]

Realistically this is the most stuff that’s ever lined up for the game to probably be coming out soon

[cerulean sable]

exactly

[shell yacht]

Lace will get pulled apart like the creature made of string she is and used to make a bow and arrow

[vivid belfry]

yeah no man's sky actually got ported to switch 2 somehow, it's some kind of miracle game

[tired oyster]

that people have been asking for since the first switch release in 2017 and nintendo hasn't even given a hint of

[warped umbra]

The most brain-dead posts are the ones saying to boycott Silksong to make TC "sweat" for all the years of disrespect and to make them worry about what they've done, i am NOT making this shit up

[errant hollow]

if tc makes it canon ill forgive them for everything theyve done

[lament coyote]

I physically can't imagine just how good a game needs to be to make people cry when its original goal is nowhere near "feed people onions, make them tear"

[brittle garnet]

I disagree with this because, you do not need to know anything about a product that you have not invested anything into prior to its release. Team Cherry are private people. Not a public company. Just because millions of people liked their game does not put responsibility on them to have to deal with managing those fans expectations, especially when those expectations are born out of thin air.

[unique gazelle]

That'll be 600$ sir, have a mario-tastical day

[signal tinsel]

I don’t know if he has more followers than the Team Cherry account, but why doesn’t he retweet it there too? This literally takes five seconds and makes it more serious, especially after the « one year from now » fail.

[vivid belfry]

no games are getting updated to utilize switch 2 hardware because nintendo didn't give ANYONE dev kits

[pulsar roost]

True and real

[gray leaf]

Not gore of my favorite character

[tidal ruin]

All I saw was primacon crashout

[glossy berry]

i was streaming the direct to my girlfriend while out at the store and forgot that autoplays on so ive just been subjecting the beloved to footage of donkey kong for an hour straight after it finished as god intended

[lost brook]

oh thats messed up, literal low life behaviour

[red mulch]

i just see an inevitable delay. scope creep is real

[vivid belfry]

of course it's gonna be up to the devs if they want to update them in the first place

[unreal thicket]

Reasonable crashout

[tired oyster]

pretty much. people who suddenly now believe the game doesn't exist because it wasn't at a nintendo direct need to sit themselves down and have a serious critical thought about if that's rational in any way

[pine reef]

Silksong?

[lean pendant]

Chat, if you keep dreaming about Silksong, you'll get infected by the Radiance.

[warped prairie]

Sweat and cry over ss ❌
move on and play othr games ✅

[fair vault]

bold of you to assume we aren't already infected

[signal tinsel]

Yeah, this is what people are saying.

[brittle garnet]

As far as im concerned, its tentative and until we get a release date it can be wrong or end up changing

[red zealot]

The not being real doesn’t make sense with all the promotions Xbox is doing

[pulsar roost]

Honestly? Probably so they would avoid excessive backlash if they were to delay the game further.

[gray leaf]

This anime season is looking hot people lots to watch

[floral void]

Some of us clearly are

[unique gazelle]

The game went from arguably worse than release-state Fallout 76 to one of the best games of its genre and space exploration, easily beating Starfield

[shell yacht]

Okay real shit, does anybody else really hate laces design, like she's the bottom teir character I've seen so far

[tidal ruin]

I don't feel the jealousy, but maybe it is warranted this time

[granite adder]

The real conspiracy theorists are the ones who somehow think Silksong isn't dropping in 2025 😭

[lament coyote]

If there will be another delay, which was by the way confirmed by the pr manager of this game, they're genuinely fucked and probably even in danger 😊

[warped umbra]

Its worse that they're getting up voted while people who are reasonable and move on are getting downvoted

[vivid belfry]

you know what maybe i'll get no man's sky on switch 2 lmao

[languid jasper]

honestly, it's amazing the comunity isn't flooded by memes comparing silksong to The Infection

[devout halo]

I think it's actually pretty interesting I think it will portray her personality well

[errant hollow]

Sweat and cry over ss ❌
move on and play othr games ❌

[pulsar roost]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-weewee-gif-9814084210253176615

[gray leaf]

I think youve seen her too much

[tired oyster]

it's a very simple design but i enjoy it, i think she looks cute!

[lean pendant]

Chat, I have an idea.

[tidal ruin]

The realer conspiracy theorists are the ones that believe silksong isn't a social experiment

[dapper dove]

redditors, assemble!!!!!

[lost brook]

Silksong is an SCP ngl

[unique gazelle]

On that note I have this discourse among friends, does her leg design include thighs or pants?

[serene chasm]

[sage umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/one-more-game-one-more-game-squid-game-season-2-one-more-round-netflix-gif-2126750657036619838

[silk zodiac]

hey curly

[shell yacht]

She just reminds me of those really ass wacky body types you see in like one piece

[unreal thicket]

Its so cool what there will be three lace fights

[pulsar roost]

She’s a cool inverse to hornet, I like lace

[red mulch]

i mean i've been saying all along that if the release date isn't at gamescom there's 0% chance of it releasing in 2025

[granite adder]

Wasn't aware of this downside, though honestly it does not feel remotely worth it from a business perspective to properly port every game to Switch 2 to fix it

[fair vault]

someone needs to write a skong SCP and it won't be me

[errant hollow]

think abt lacenet ✅ ✅ 🗣️ 🥇 🔥

[tired oyster]

she's a damn bug she's allowed to have wacky proportions

[devout halo]

I think it's pants but it's hard to say for a design like that

[unique gazelle]

Honestly why not, seems perfect for handheld too

[languid jasper]

Internet Explorer running as good as always

[tidal ruin]

And you'd be incorrect

[shell yacht]

Well as per the first game, most of the characters are not wearing anything. But with this region being haunted by silk they might all be possessed by their clothes so who knows

[pulsar roost]

I think she’s supposed to reflect a Victorian style noblewoman

[floral void]

Realistically what's that based on? We still have the funny museum too

[vivid belfry]

this is why the switch 2 edition upgrades cost money for some games, it is effectively porting it to a new console

[pine reef]

If there’s no demo at gamescom yhe world will end

[rocky flicker]

Nintemblo

[zinc pier]

Can’t believe how much news we got from the direct. Tomorrows looking hopeful! ||please don’t ban me for lying mods it’s funny I swear ❤️||

[lost brook]

with the entire "bug" theme of the hk games I hope Silksong has a SICK ASS dragonfly bossfight

[full ledge]

I disagree it’s not like it has to be the only thing you do there

[red mulch]

funny museum isn't the event at which release dates are being announced

[unique gazelle]

Thank you for the input

[devout halo]

This is a valid complaint but I don't think that it's really fair to compare this design to conscious and consistent over - sexualization of women

[brittle garnet]

So Leth is not a direct representative of Team Cherry. He doesn't have a free reign to give out news, and he is a contractor, not a part of the core dev team. The team cherry account is ran by the members of team cherry themselves, and Leth will only publicly announce something with Team Cherry's permission.
Besides his job is more of a backend and legal/publishing. His job is not communicating with the public.

[signal tinsel]

This is what I think too. Which is why I said the date meant nothing after the Direct. That kind of communication creates confusion and the criticism isn’t outlandish. They gave a date without being sure and Silksong not appearing in the following partner direct means a delay is even more possible now. That’s all I’m saying.

[vivid belfry]

switch 2 doesn't have hardware commonalities with switch 1 so it can't actually run switch 1 games natively, it has to emulate the switch 1

[lament coyote]

No. It will release in 2025 either way. Gamescom is a demo event, not game announcement or whatever the fuck you guys call this stuff

[lone crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/970814595818196992/1329935717232803923/E4BCCA3D-ACBC-439C-B2F3-2050437823B9-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[torpid orchid]

Do you think TC will make DLC for Silksong?

[tidal ruin]

You could also get freaked out by spiders in australia

[clear tree]

that silksong news today was crazy guys right haha, cant believe its releasing so soon

[shell yacht]

I was not talking specifically about the inconsistent female biology of one piece I mean how some of the characters look like their upper torso is a semi truck and they're lower torso is made out of twigs or vice versa

[red mulch]

? gamescom has always been the biggest event next to E3

[granite adder]

I know this, just didn't consider how it would require 720 handheld on a bigger screen than before

[vivid belfry]

probably not, I would be shocked if they felt they had to leave anything on the cutting room floor with a 6 year dev cycle

[tired oyster]

if we're talking the same kind of dlc as hollow knight, almost definitely not

[unreal thicket]

I'm so excited for this trio

[unique gazelle]

Imagine paying 600 clams for a glorified emulator, Jesus christ

[pulsar roost]

I agree with you completely, same reason I’m somewhat sceptical towards Xbox

[floral void]

Lord Imu?!

[zinc pier]

Everything is the 9/11 of this community

[warped prairie]

Only for people without a life

[shell yacht]

I didn't even realize that what I said could be taken that way lol

[woeful matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279262687070781564/1373457462706835486/togif.gif

[red mulch]

nah doubtful

[vivid belfry]

I mean for what it's worth, the switch 1 emulator on 2 still runs switch games better than the original lmao

[lost brook]

this take is like a WAY too exagurated

[granite adder]

Is this ragebait or do you genuinely not know it also has exclusives

[devout halo]

Yea, I literally HATE one piece designs I don't think the guy ever studied any sort of anatomy or character design whatsoever. I think lace is probably just kind of a stick bug like hornet and the poofiness comes from clothes

[warped prairie]

Silksong is coming 2025. Why wouldn’t it? Because people are doubtful for now reason?

[vivid belfry]

finally, a console powerful enough to run slay the princess and balatro

[tired oyster]

the 9/11 of this community was william's shitpost account getting wider exposure and people latching onto it because everything in that man's life of course MUST relate to silksong

[untold wing]

I just wanna play the game tho

[red zealot]

I hate to say it but we’d probably have to wait twice as long

[pulsar roost]

Get your high horse out

[unique gazelle]

Back in my day the biggest bomb here was the good old nuke of 15th

[cerulean sable]

i think the biggest issue with TC is they prpbably went thru irl stuff like Ari is probs devastated that eugen removed 2nd Panzer Grens access to MILAN 2 Jaguars which would fuck up anyone given historically they had access to 70 Jaguar 2s, while 5e Blindee continues to get buffs to their AMX 30s

[brittle garnet]

Nah theyre right

[clear tree]

silksong will release late august/early september just watch

[shell yacht]

Probably, but I think it would be funnier if she is literally string so we can literally unravel her

[warped prairie]

I spose I can’t really talk, I play rain world all day. Still!

[zinc pier]

No news at Xbox games show? 9/11. no News at PlayStation showcase? 9/11. no News at indie game showcase? 9/11. no news at presidential briefing? 9/11.

[devout halo]

His shitpost account is funny as hell my favorite of his tweets is Metamorphosis 2

[glossy berry]

go

[pulsar roost]

Even if they are that sentiment brings nothing to the discussion and is frankly annoying

[red mulch]

i mean with the game most likely being pushed back to 2026 imo i doubt there's anything left to add. scope creep will likely make it a bloated mess anyways

[untold wing]

i already did before the direct

[floral void]

Then you get new string and can reconfigure her as a new weapon or some shit

[languid jasper]

nah, that was the "he guys" announcement or the cake incident, this is nothing in coparasion

[fair vault]

People tend to forget that they are humans with lives

[tidal ruin]

GET IT OFF MY SCREEEEEN

[devout halo]

I support this

[trail light]

least obvious bait

[brittle garnet]

Idk i think being frankly callous and entitled toward private people doing their jobs is also annoying

[red zealot]

Why would it be pushed back to 2026

[granite adder]

I need to leave this server bro I'm so bad at not getting lost in 8 million arguments for 2 hours

[woeful matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[tired oyster]

no i think that's just a child

[unreal thicket]

Lethal for ...theyre talking about Lace, maybe the flowerfield, marsh and bellhart are all the parts of Greymoor

[tidal ruin]

AHHH

[warped prairie]

Yeah.

[red mulch]

people were telling me that me saying we won't see silksong today was bait either. you'll see. we either get a release date on gamescom or the game isn't releasing this year

[tired oyster]

for fun 🙂

[fair vault]

i love this community (free comedy)

[warped prairie]

No news means pushback? They’ve got a buncha events and like 3 confirmations of 2025, if they were that confident surely it is basically qlmost done.

[dusk pilot]

Guys can we petetion to get rid of ss disc for 2 days

[granite adder]

Give a trigger warning for a j*b appl*cat*on next time

[tired oyster]

just because other people are irrational doesn't mean you have to be irrational too

[tidal ruin]

Or maybe tc does what they said they'd do and just announce the release date themselves

[magic narwhal]

Not a bad direct, I got my Capcom and Square fix

[pine reef]

Good job mods for deleting the nsfw msg

[fair vault]

they'll just move elsewhere

[floral void]

Reminder that HK had like a 2 week between release date announcement and actual release, they could announce it 15th of december still

[full rune]

OCTOPATH

[dusk pilot]

If its not here thats good

[glossy berry]

i was barely watching but any katamari news is big

[unreal thicket]

F*ck octopath ( I'm sorry)

[clear tree]

guys check steam they just shadowdropped silksong and also updates hollow knight to finally include the battlepass

[red mulch]

where is it then? like i geniuinely don't believe that they will come with the release date out of the blue. gamescom is the last chance of the game releasing this year

[shell yacht]

What's that other octopath like game that came out more recently

[magic narwhal]

Octopath with a custom MC is a big draw for me

[devout halo]

I'm so excited for the themes and story of SS I think that the usage of haunting as well as all the Catholic symbols will deal with a lot of religious guilt or Hornets devotion to her place as a defender/relationship with her parents and how that impacts her psyche

[pulsar roost]

I feel like you’re talking about something else, the og post was about this being a sad day

[shell yacht]

Ocean stars or something

[static bay]

[tired oyster]

i'm happy for the folks that like octopath but even as a person who's a fan of pretty much every other big rpg franchise square enix has those games look sorely uninteresting to me, i'm not sure what it is about them

[unreal thicket]

"Two more games" you mean two more octopaths

[full ledge]

TRAVELER

[magic narwhal]

The new IP also reminds me of Zelda kinda

[shell yacht]

Not 15th of December no, we have a pre-holiday window

[brittle garnet]

Oh yeah im just talking about the bad trends in the community, thats my mistake

[shell yacht]

They could announce it on Thanksgiving!

[fair vault]

seems pharloom is very music based, i'm mostly interested in that

[pulsar roost]

Two more 2.5d jrpg remakes 😔😔

[warped prairie]

Just cause we don’t got an exact date yet doesn’t mean its not this year.

[red mulch]

we got final fantasy tactics which is legit some of the most exciting info i got this year. the remake of tactics ogre was stellar

[clear tree]

i feel like we shouldnt putting down other games because there wasnt any silksong news

[floral void]

Yeah, just illustrating that it's not joever if we don't get info at gamescom

[tidal ruin]

They said it would come directly from them, and asking "where is it then" when there's still 5 months left of the year is like telling someone "its been a second" a second after they say "gimme a second"

[tired oyster]

octopath traveller is not a remake, it's just made in that style

[granite adder]

Honestly even if you're a fan of both Square Enix games you gotta admit having "2 more games" to be announced and they're both Square 2DHD RPGs is disappointing no matter how you look at it

[magic narwhal]

I am so hyped for Tactics

[brittle garnet]

Nobody can see the future.

[warped prairie]

Like if it wasn’t this year that’d be weird. Like 3 confirmations, 2 events, a bunch more stuff

[unique gazelle]

Ari Gibson just posts "My thanks is being done with this shit" alongside the purchase link

[shell yacht]

Weren't all of the square games basically remakes today? I haven't actually gone to fast forward through the direct yet

[odd sedge]

yall it was me who delayed silksong back in 2023 my bad guys

[lost brook]

Hey now, Elliot looks like a chill guy and his game isnt turn-based

[pulsar roost]

Ah so it’s just a funny naming Japanese naming convention, octopath 0 not being a remake but a sequel

[magic narwhal]

Tf do you have against 2DHD RPGs lmao did they hurt you or something?

[unreal thicket]

https://youtu.be/e6b-lWhn8pg?si=38kzlfhrIKu4rcML

Christopher Larkin, this is just a small town, don't make me cry

[red mulch]

i just don't see it happening man. it was said a few years ago and with how much they've been relying on 3rd party communicators this year i doubt we're getting anything from TC themselves

[tidal ruin]

Not only did they announce 2025, they doubled down

[floral void]

Also there's still a huge chance TC just announces the game themselves out of nowhere, not tied to any event or anything, but people seem to discredit that

[brittle garnet]

Nobody can see the future

[fair vault]

the OST is gonna be epic i just know it

[clear tree]

remember, silksong was originally ANNOUNCED out of nowhere, no event or anything

[magic narwhal]

Like I’ll take preserving an old artstyle vs watering it down thanks

[red mulch]

nintendo and notoriously unreliable xbox did

[tidal ruin]

This is the most likely outcome if you ask me

[odd sedge]

silksong release date announced at gamescom calling it rn

[tired oyster]

octopath traveller is a franchise that didn't exist until the first switch so it'd be kinda funny for it to already be getting remakes

[unreal thicket]

Yeah, i know, I'm mad in Nintendo saying two more games, and showing only one game

[cerulean sable]

bro unless TC actively starts publicly executing their testers i wont even go far calling evil assholes

i agree that i wish their comms are better but people are running with their headcannons, running with it, then making these scenarios in their heads affirming that TC is secretely mocking them like what 😭

[pulsar roost]

Leth double downed

[round rampart]

Tbh I wish they hadnt promised the hornet dlc and stuff and hadnt revealed the game in 2019 so it could just be like revealed and released without 7 years of buildup

[lean pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRs58D34OLY

[magic narwhal]

As much as I love Remake/16 not every game needs to be “full immersive realism”

[lost brook]

Im gonna glaze Christopher Larkin for atleast 6 months after silksong releases

[tidal ruin]

Nintendo (reposted by leth) and leth both said it
Leth being the one singular man thats supposed to tell us this is pretty damning

[red mulch]

it was supposed to be a DLC and they passed the kickstarter threshold

[unreal thicket]

If this is OST for just a town, imagine lategame ost

[pulsar roost]

Oh rlly I didn’t know, didn’t mean to diss either I’m just disappointed 😔

[granite adder]

Nothing? The two final games are just incredibly similar. I would say the same thing if the last 2 games were Cozy 3D Collectathons. It's just disappointing for the final announcements to be so similar

[cerulean sable]

this is not directed to anyone in this chat in particular but ive seen it pop out unironically from time to time

[errant hollow]

shoutout to tc for making lesbians real

[warped prairie]

Yeah. Leth has connections with TC. So they themselves are confident for 2025! And it’d make sense

[fair vault]

6 months is gonna be way too short...

[floral void]

Jamie Christopherson x Christopher Larkin collab when

[magic narwhal]

You were not paying attention then because they are entirely different genres lmao

[red mulch]

atp i doubt leth knows significantly more than we do lol

[unreal thicket]

Mark my words, this will be used for trailer

[pulsar roost]

Connections is an understatement I think, he’s a core member

[unique gazelle]

Why do so many people unironically think TC is plotting schemes against them meanwhile they're busy hugging their family and working on the game peacefully

[glossy berry]

i cant believe ari gibson specifically crushed all my overzealous hopes and dreams and spat in my face for wanting the game to be out the instant i need it. for shame

[shell yacht]

The first game had lesbians smh, the sequel doesn't

[lost brook]

Or maybe just a cutscene or serene location? But the name maybe implies that what you said is more accurate

[tidal ruin]

"I doubt a TC affiliate knows more about TC than us"

[warped prairie]

Bruh he is CONNECTED TO TC he. Can tlak to them!!

[tired oyster]

i mean they are two games from the same franchise. i agree it was a bit silly to just vaguely say "two new games" and not "two new games from the same franchise"

[magic narwhal]

One is an action RPG with co-op one is a single player JRPG

[floral void]

Don't forget it was very personal and he came to your house for even THINKING of wanting the game

[errant hollow]

yuh huh shes literally the main character

[lean pendant]

Chat, do you like when games have their own unique song for the launch trailer or when they use ingame music for it?

[red mulch]

with his chaotic delivery of contradictory news there's either been a communication breakdown between them or something

[cerulean sable]

devs laying off people is fucked up, but i draw the line on terminally offline devs!

[unreal thicket]

Second

[granite adder]

One was a turn-based RPG and one was an action RPG, but they still have a lot of overlap especially with them being Square titles

[brittle garnet]

You guys think Team Cherry is gonna go to Gamescom physically? They've been at PAX Aus, but thats probably just due to proximity...

[glossy berry]

he literally broke down my door, punched me in the gut and spat on my crumpled body all because i asked when the games dropping

[lost brook]

unique songs for trailers are sometimes not included in ost albums so the latter

[magic narwhal]

THIS IS INCORRECT LMFAO, the first one is a new IP my guy you just hyperfixated on an art style

[pulsar roost]

That’s pretty unrealistic, he is a marketing director, he most likely knows everything about tha gem and does a lot of stuff behind the scenes

[lean pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=243Uguc-6mQ

[tidal ruin]

If leth was lying, william ari and john silksong wouldn't just stand by and let him
He was allowed and likely made to announce the release window through silksong and after xbox, this isn't up for debate

[clear tree]

i like when games have their own unique song, especially a silky song

[magic narwhal]

Okay and? You just not like Square?

[lost brook]

i think he thinks that square enix is a franchise maybe?

[warped prairie]

Contradictory news?.., when?

[cerulean sable]

also inb4 someone says they have a falling out, no, they literally met and were in good terms during PAX AUS last year

[floral void]

Oh yeah Mae have kitten

[pulsar roost]

If hope so, I’m going to Köln just for silksong

[red mulch]

remember that xbox pulled a release window out of their asses once already

[glossy berry]

WHOA!
theyre so adorable whats the name,,,,,,

[magic narwhal]

Square is primarily a JRPG studio so yes they’re gonna make JRPGs

[unique gazelle]

Why aren't people getting upset over things that need it like that internet censorship that's going on, you guys we have bigger enemies than Felonious Gru and his devs

[cerulean sable]

i think leth is just numb to it

[warped prairie]

This is xbox and ninetndo and TC, not just xbox,

[pulsar roost]

Leth isn’t Xbox though

[floral void]

He's called Emet 💜

[granite adder]

No, but if you are going to say "2 more announcements" they should not be indistinguishable to most viewers and even past a surface level quite similar

[cerulean sable]

persecution complex

[tidal ruin]

Xbox isn't even a source I'm using man

[clear tree]

remember, that was technically true at the time. TC were planning a 2023 release date. it just got delayed

[unreal thicket]

Who cares about Xbox

[magic narwhal]

Well they would be if you’d paid attention…?

[glossy berry]

literally not true in the slightest but ok man

[red mulch]

yeah and it will get delayed again and again and again

[languid jasper]

well, see you at the gamescon, I hope we get a release date then. Bye

[brittle garnet]

I might go there as well, but this hinges entirely on if my friends from other parts if europe will also come to meet up, otherwise i wont bother going on my own

[granite adder]

Again it has nothing to do with Square or 2DHD or RPGs, it's the lack of variety in the final 2 announcements that is disappointing

[tired oyster]

you are being unnecessarily aggressive here

[warped prairie]

ok doubter

[magic narwhal]

This is a dumb argument, it’s just a similar art style get over it lol

[glossy berry]

chat is getting a little heated hop on hyper light drifter

[clear tree]

even if it gets delayed for the next 10 years i wouldnt mind lowkey

[unique gazelle]

Mae hop on Nightreign I main Ironeye

[lost brook]

I might go to Gamescon if it has multiple things that interest me besides silksong

[pulsar roost]

Im lucky to have a friend who’s as excited as me to go there with

[red mulch]

scope creep + agressive perfectionism is what leads to stuff getting delayed ad infinitum and being cancelled eventually. i am a doubter and i admit it fully

[glossy berry]

disasterpiece could make me cry maybe

[tidal ruin]

Xbox never claimed anything except "release title", leth confirmed before holiday after nintendo confirmed 2025 (likely through tc directly)
After 2023, theres 0 chance they just decide to announce a release window without knowing if they can keep it

[unreal thicket]

I just finished "Headless horseman", W book

[granite adder]

Yeah my apologies. I saw a grasshopper this morning. It even let me put it on my finger and kiss it 🦗

[fair vault]

I'm willing to wait however long it takes. the longer the wait the more insane the community, which means more entertainment for me

[tired oyster]

i'm not saying anything about the art style? can you calm down and explain to me how one of those final two games is a new IP because from the titles i genuinely did not get the distinction at the time

[warped prairie]

Okay, but we got like 3 2025 confirmations. Why would they say that if they weren’t confident?

[clear tree]

i just wish people didnt get so worked up over a video game, i would understand if you were a backer and annoyed at the delay of a product you were promised, but from what ive seen the backers generally dont seem to care too much when it comes out as long as its good

[lost brook]

didnt hyper light get a new 3d game which was very negatively recieved?

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-gif-14291434036757380725

[glossy berry]

peak mentioned thats based actually
i need to play more nightreign

[magic narwhal]

…..There’s literally two different titles shown did you just not read them…?

[floral void]

You're not gonna be able to reason this guy out of this

[brittle garnet]

Bro, looks outside. Smell a flower. Look at bugs flying. Breathe a little optimism.

[fair vault]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[red mulch]

what i'm saying that they even might be confident but what ends up happening is that oops we missed it again sorry gang teehee

[warped prairie]

Yeah. I should just watch bfdi

[magic narwhal]

Reading comprehension is hard apparently

[clear tree]

guys leth just announced on twitter that silksong got delayed to 2126

[unique gazelle]

Augur got its new harder fight! I have no idea what happens in it but according to a friend Fromsoft was cooking

[granite adder]

This is a magnificent specimen

[warped prairie]

You have no source or reason fr this but okay

[floral void]

Never heard of it, these char designs are adorable

[magic narwhal]

Also no one should be surprised that a delay is possible if I’mma be real

[fair vault]

https://tenor.com/view/ziege-flower-minnimonii-kauen-mood-gif-18138930

[shell yacht]

It's too different leezards whole bunch of them live around my house

[tidal ruin]

Yeah, because it's not possible

[tired oyster]

oh for some reason i got the impression that the first one was octopath traveller 3 and was genuinely just looking away when the title came up, apologies, that game does look neat though

[glossy berry]

i mean yeah its a gearbox published title shit went bad because of mismanagement
no sequel will ever top hyper light drifter

breaker was so ass when it came out but its doing way better now. theyve pushed good updates and trailers and it looks promising

[magic narwhal]

Like it’s gonna be possible until TC finally rips the bandaid and they lock it in

[granite adder]

No way are they chill af

[brittle garnet]

What actually leads to things being delayed infinitely is mismanagement from above, and this is largely due to large companies being beholden to investors, and the people making big decisions having nothing to do with actually developing the game. Its a bit different when the management is also the developers and they control everything about the project.

[red mulch]

can't i'm at work sadly

[tidal ruin]

The fact people are speculating a delay barely halfway through the year is just strange to me

[limpid oxide]

nintendo direct tommorow

[warped prairie]

Yeah.

[errant hollow]

a-at what ? 😨

[shell yacht]

These ones don't like when I get too close but the green lizards what are they called, anoles(?) climb on people sometimes

[glossy berry]

people were speculating a delay from the instant the window was announced this is nothing new

[floral void]

Its self preservation

[clear tree]

i hope nintendo releases a trailer for silksong and ends it with 'Explore the land of Silk and Song in Pharloom when Hollow Knight: Silksong releases LATER THIS YEAR' and then i start laughing

[magic narwhal]

This is very narrow minded, there is never one blanket reason for delays my man be serious

[red mulch]

yeah and when both of them are aggressive perfectionists who are never happy with their product it just gets delayed infinitely. i've worked with such people

[limpid oxide]

the nintendo direct tommorow i believe SKONG TOMMOROW

[granite adder]

I LOVE ANOLES they're so cute

[brittle garnet]

No no, i can guarantee you that infinite delays in game companies are 90% caused by mismanagement

[tired oyster]

again, you're being completely unnecessarily insulting, i approached this whole thing totally reasonable and was just misunderstanding something about a game i don't know much about

[limpid oxide]

(i spelled tomorrow wrong)

[floral void]

The germany bs

[magic narwhal]

There’s a lot of reasons it can happen, loss of funds, motivation, etc

[torpid fractal]

indies are not immune is mismanagement

[tidal ruin]

Nothing, just wait for tc to say something atp

[limpid oxide]

tomorrow

[lost brook]

If I had a nickel everytime one of my favourite games had a bad 3d sequel entry in the franchise which doesnt understand the core draw of the first game then I would have two nickels, which isnt a lot but its weird that it happened twice. (Hyper Light & Wizard of Legend)

[granite adder]

Germany BS is a weird way to spell "games showcase event"

[lament hamlet]

Hey it's the biggest gaming convention ever :(

[floral void]

I swear some of you need to go on joe rogan or something with the depth of these conspiracies istg

[limpid oxide]

nintendo direct tomorrow maybe skong

[granite adder]

Wyd if Ari Gibson on Joe Rogan and he says Silksong is cancelled because of woke

[magic narwhal]

Apologies I’m a little cranky because chat’s climate towards any game not SS is annoyingly harsh for no reason sometimes

[clear tree]

ari gibson and william pellen

[tidal ruin]

Well a gaming convention anywhere is unfair to people anywhere else so

[lost brook]

Silksanity evolved into hate?😭

[unique gazelle]

Really don't like how it always rains in Ireland, unfair for people that don't live there

[floral void]

I'm not sure if u serious but we had the direct today

[magic narwhal]

There is no direct tomorrow

[tired oyster]

understandable, a number of people in this chat are weird about that lmao

[green tiger]

So E3 was unfair to rest of the world because it was in the US?

[limpid oxide]

to my information we have a direct tomorrow but maybe im just mustarded

[floral void]

Just quoting the guy, I'm a gamescon enjoyer

[tidal ruin]

Why would they do that

[magic narwhal]

Direct was today

[errant hollow]

youre just what ? 😨

[limpid oxide]

no that was a partner showcase direct is tomorrow

[clear tree]

lowkey if it just got cancelled at this point i would be a bit relieved so at least everyone can shut up about it whenever events are happening

[cerulean sable]

6 fucking years of dev and yet still not a single image showing any forms of polearms? Hello? Poleaxes? Guisarmes? Fauchards? Billhooks? None? Lazy fucking devs fuck TC and the peeps who glaze them

[floral void]

They could release the demo after the gamescom event, they've had their exclusivity then and the rest can play

[pulsar roost]

To be fair it’s a silksong discussion channel

[lost brook]

He's just ketchuped

[granite adder]

Releasing a demo on steam is a lot more effort because you have to comb thoroughly through the game files and ensure there's nothing in there not related to the demo

[brittle garnet]

It happens due to mismanagement in 90% of cases. The rest is stuff like loss of motivation etc.

[magic narwhal]

There is no other Direct lol

[errant hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrickcreepysmile-kendrick-lamar-smile-gif-11906780407366638029

[clear tree]

embed fail 💔

[sage glade]

what are the chances of silksng

[unique gazelle]

The things I would do to see a beautiful Zweihander-style weapon in the game

[magic narwhal]

Ya got played, there won’t be another official Direct till like September

[floral void]

Skongbong when

[lost brook]

on some real shit, kendrick lamar is the only rap artist I fw

[tidal ruin]

While I may not agree with it either, the point of a game convention is exclusivity
I don't see a reason for them to upload a demo to steam when the full game is lokely ready to release before long anyways

[red mulch]

and there won't be a silksong until 2026

[clear tree]

i remember there being ones in august sometimes

[proven moss]

The release date is the same as the demo in gamescon

[errant hollow]

same as the chances of lacenet (theyre the same thing)

[sage glade]

need someone trustworthy to confirm

[limpid oxide]

skong is still tomorrow tho

[magic narwhal]

Given how many we had in June I doubt it

[floral void]

The point of the exclusivity is time gating

[unique gazelle]

My most beloved sword

[errant hollow]

no tyler the creator no clipse no ye no nothin ? 😟

[tidal ruin]

I'll be spamming this screenshot when silksong releases 2025

[red mulch]

imo? we'll get a demo but no release date, the game doesn't release this year

[proven moss]

They are like: you can play the game as demo version in gamescon for free or buy the game today and play at home

[limpid oxide]

i have been jebaited

[red mulch]

go ahead, if it releases i will eat my words but i am very much doubtful

[polar sequoia]

leth said confirmed before holidays i believe that as its been 7 year surely the game is finished or close to finished

[floral void]

Rather, in most cases it should be - if there's actually something tangible and it'll leak all over the internet (which all the demo content will) they might as well make it public, though I suspect if we do get a demo on steam it'll be after funi museum

[lost brook]

Not big on music which isnt already attached to a game or movie, I wanna explore more music but school and hobbies eat up a lotta time

[clear tree]

from what i remember there was just the one DK Bananza direct?

[magic narwhal]

It’s not confirmed, that’s the goal

[tidal ruin]

Likewise then, if game is delayed you can spread my devastating humiliation

[magic narwhal]

Confirmation would actually be a public statement via a trailer or actual official platform like Twitter

[clear tree]

guys they just need to add more sliding mechanics thats whats taking so long

[tidal ruin]

Confirmed means stated by someone who knows
Leth knows and he states it, therefore confirmation

[cerulean sable]

"its so over TC is cooked just cancel the game" im like I DONT FUCKING CARE WERE STILL 5 MONTHS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR THIS YEAR IS THE YEAR RAHHHHHHH

[magic narwhal]

The fact they are not putting it out beyond the server says they are still not 100% sure

[unique gazelle]

Just have Leth tweet "Hamburger", enough for us

[green tiger]

At this point I totally believe they are under some kind of NDA, but I can't make sense of who with

[tidal ruin]

The fact they put it out at all means they are 100% sure

[magic narwhal]

This is a trap mindset to fall into but you do you I guess

[nova ravine]

Yessss doom more

[lost brook]

Man you were cooking with the hope messages but what is ts😭

[unique gazelle]

Many people don't know this but Stalker is based on the events of #sk-discussion running the world for half a month

[cerulean sable]

TRUEE

GET OUT OF HERE WEAVER

[tidal ruin]

Sorry for believing the one guy whos supposed to tell us these things ig

[clear tree]

we havent considered that the game might be bad have any of us thought of that yet

[magic narwhal]

He’s not a dev, he’s public relations

[pulsar roost]

Surprisingly a lot of people think this

[nova ravine]

Leth fucked my wife and shot my dog

[round rampart]

Hey I have that lego rancor

[twilit crescent]

guys its gonna be fine it will release this year

[magic narwhal]

He can only relay what the team is hoping they can achieve, not how likely that is to occur with a huge degree of accuracy

[unique gazelle]

Hey here's a thought though, how about just, being excited for a new release coming soon?

[tidal ruin]

In other words the one guy whos supposed to tell us these things
Devs job isn't to communicate, the communicators job is (and thats leth)

[pulsar roost]

He is a core member of team cherry, let’s not forget or undermine his position.

[cerulean sable]

bro it just needs to be better than HK

some peeps are making up weird fantasies that it will end all indie games

hes not actually part PART of TC actually

[tidal ruin]

Technically he isn't a tc member, but yes this statement still rings true

[magic narwhal]

I’m not but be aware he is not the first line of info when it comes to development plans

[twilit crescent]

or on the similiar level as hollow knight

[gray leaf]

"Just needs to be better than hollow knight" is already quite a difficult feat

[unique gazelle]

We got confirmations long ago that it's already better than HK, frankly even if it was on the same level I'd be over the moon

[tidal ruin]

Yes he is
It is his job to be that

[gray leaf]

It's all subjective, how would that work?

[magic narwhal]

No that’s the dev team

[floral void]

Not to be pedantic but that's subjective, I have no doubt it'll be good though

[twilit crescent]

The moment ill start panicking is if it doesnt release this year before that im chill

[trail light]

its the dev team's job to make the game

[blazing raptor]

I miss having hope for Silksong

[pulsar roost]

Im pretty sure he is, he’s in the credits for hk and is on the website and everything.

[tidal ruin]

The dev team makes the game, it is not their job to communicate

[magic narwhal]

PR does not handle the release schedule at all, they only relay what the devs think they can deliver

[unique gazelle]

Ah but remember! HK was rushed and had shoestring budget, here they have a lot of money and time, and we're talking about the guys that made one of the best indie games

[cerulean sable]

its kinda the vibe im getting that Leth is stuck in the part of wanting to communicate to the community but his hands are tied by the info he has

so he has these half "my opinion" statements where he csnt talk directly on TCs behalf like saying it on the TC Twittet

[gray leaf]

I trust that it'll be a great game, but I think people "confirming" it's better than HK doesn't necessarily mean a lot

[clear tree]

the community's thoughts on silksong is the just the 'we're so back' 'its over' graph on loop

[tidal ruin]

Nah, tc is just ari william and mystery 3rd member
Christopher Larkin makes music and is credited, but he's a commission not a member

[red mulch]

Deal

[dull mist]

Someone needs to hide the demo up their ass during gamescom so the rest can enjoy the game

[magic narwhal]

Basically this, if the dev team does not have enough certainty to communicate to Leth we won’t get anything

[gray leaf]

It'd be cool if it was released after its showcase at the con

[unique gazelle]

Only so much we can say tbf, what I know and can safely fall back on is that I'll enjoy it

[red mulch]

yeah like honestly he is either not allowed to say a lot or he just doesn't know that much lol

[clear tree]

i cant wait to explore the Moss Grotto with Hornet when Hollow Knight: Silksong releases later this year!

[floral void]

Only the vocal minority, most of us are just chillin

[lost brook]

The only quality concern I have about silksong is the system where "tools" use a limited resource and get recharged at benches. One of the things I LOVED about HK is that there are essentially no consumables or limited resource in combat.

[blazing raptor]

Or maybe hit us with the game will be available to buy that day would be crazy

[gray leaf]

I'm not ready

[red mulch]

i doubt it will be that big of a deal, the resources will be plentiful

[magic narwhal]

I can kinda see why they didn’t, a file dump of a demo would ruin the mystery of the game before launch

[polar sequoia]

I dont feel they need to market it anymore lol one of the most wishlisted games on steam

[tidal ruin]

The communcation guy is there to communicate, the devs are there to develop, the musician is there to make music, everyone has roles
We can 100% trust that Leth, as the communicator, is communicating to the absolute best of tc's knowledge

[pulsar roost]

I get what you mean, I’m excited for the ”survival features” like the tool system though.

[cerulean sable]

also some of you guys werent there but i remember the time Leth got us mods to test the webpage to rewrite it so he can nudge TC to do a blogpost (which he said in the interview) but yeah guess what happened anyway

[magic narwhal]

Also yeah they don’t need more marketing this game keeps killing direct chats lmfao

[cerulean sable]

TCs rules so

[clear tree]

will silksong have bananas in it

[cerulean sable]

and yeah look at Leths work on Crowsworn for a difference

cuz he had actual mats to.work with

it is what it is

[gray leaf]

That'd be groundbreaking

[tidal ruin]

50/50, either they will or won't

[magic narwhal]

He probably just isn’t allowed to say anything that could end up being false and there’s not enough certainty rn

[red mulch]

the thing is that TC's actions have contradicted his recent statements: "i doubt we will be making a new demo for ACMI" which at worse is a half truth and at best is a miscommunication

[lost brook]

I meant more in a way like, "I wanna use this tool on this small enemy but what if I encounter a boss fight before the next bench" kinda deal. I assume that the currency to actually refill tools would be plentiful but it looks like they can only used a limited number of times before a rest

[cerulean sable]

i mean shit can change by then

he did say he DOUBTS

[floral void]

I'm sure there were no factual plans for a demo at the time of that statement

[cerulean sable]

thats plausible deniability eitherway

[trail light]

so the stuff that has been said has enough certainty? like the 2025 release date from both nintendo, xbox and Leth himself?

[gray leaf]

Something like the nine sols azure bow would be chill

[tidal ruin]

At best the game will be out before then and it'll just be a copy of the game, but even I won't claim that's 100% going to be the case

[red mulch]

i thought that it works a bit like consumables in sekiro: you can recover them on their own while you also have a "pouch" where it's restored upon a checkpoint

[magic narwhal]

As a goal from the dev team like the fiscal year statement yes

[lost brook]

TRUE, and that final spell upgrade which gives back one ammo for a succussful talisman was chefs kiss in game design

[clear tree]

i remember when i thought silksong would launch in 2021

[pulsar roost]

I think the Acmi will have multiple older versions of silksong demonstrating the dev process, doesn’t make much sense for there to be one big demo to me

[magic narwhal]

But the fact that it’s still vague means there’s still uncertainty

[tidal ruin]

I'm hungry

[proven moss]

Never best the final boss in ninesols

[frigid aspen]

I think we shouldnt be excited about these events and stuff cause i have a feeling they will release it on a totally random day

[polar sequoia]

I feel SS maybe holding back other games bc at things like nintendo directs all ppl care about is silksong and maybe other highly regarded indie gamrs

[red mulch]

tbh my last bit of hope is the "release date 2 weeks after announcement", that would line up neatly - release date at gamescom, the game comes out early semptember, 2 weeks before ACMI opening

[gray leaf]

So shrue

[magic narwhal]

This annoys me

[lean pendant]

I love orange juice.

[red mulch]

if there's no release date at gamescom the game won't release before acmi and i'm sure it won't come out this year

[vagrant onyx]

will gamescom show us demo publicly in stream or only people who visited can able to see and play?

[tidal ruin]

There's also the possibility gamescom and acmi will just recieve limited versions of the full game, which kinda are demos but it means more in terms of potential release day

[magic narwhal]

It annoys me more because Xbox is now doing the same thing for promotional material which is scummy

[gray leaf]

For some reason i decided to restrict myself a lot in my first run so I didn't use that one, but it's good design indeed

[clear tree]

who knows, maybe the TC office got attacked by kangaroos, anything can h appen

[brittle garnet]

Inevitably people will record the gameplay in the booth

[floral void]

The dropbears have come to take their revenge..

[magic narwhal]

The Emus wanted revenge lol

[vagrant onyx]

yes but i want to know if gamescom gonna show demo on livestream to everyone or not

[tidal ruin]

Hey gang...
Unfortunately, William Pellen.
Expect more news from us closer to release.

[floral void]

Right, I forgot about the Great Emu War

[brittle garnet]

We dont know

[lost brook]

Yo has anyone played the new ender lillies game? Is it hype?

[unique gazelle]

But they already won the war

[floral void]

It's very good, better than the original imo

[proven moss]

I liked ender magnolia

[unique gazelle]

Heard it was great

[subtle flint]

@sinful flare @uncut citrus come urf eune

[clear tree]

im a half life megafan im used to this by now

[uncut citrus]

Nopers

[cerulean sable]

we just shit on blueshift instead

[brittle garnet]

This is just how on-site demos work? It was the same for the 2019 demo

[hexed prawn]

What if there will be no demos and we all get to be miserable together?

[subtle flint]

damn

[lost brook]

I liked the first ender lillies, the enemy animations just felt kinda cheap

[blazing raptor]

Maybe if we believe hard enough we might get something

[pulsar roost]

We europeans stay winning 😎 😎 (except for bordering-on-fascist censorship laws and increased right wing politics)

[sinful flare]

I HATE EUNEEEEEEEEEE

[lost brook]

I guess im try to get ender magnolia in the next steam sale

[magic narwhal]

There’s a part of me that thinks the best approach may have been to launch SS as an EA title

[subtle flint]

why you hats me beaves...

[tidal ruin]

Oh no not a silksong sports game

[unique gazelle]

Mods take away her lunch money

[uncut citrus]

I'm toxic

[brittle garnet]

Unfortunately those things are not unique to europe

[magic narwhal]

Do like Hades, release it in sets of areas, get player feedback then eventually release the rest of the story areas at 1.0 launch

[lofty plume]

I'm european I'm just far away from germany

[brittle garnet]

I'd need to take a 8-9 hour train ride to get to gamescom

[proven moss]

If silksong is ea it's Pay to play, pay 20.00 for the grappling hook upgrade to continue playing

[subtle flint]

shrue

[magic narwhal]

That way you avoid scope creep and the community gets to engage in the dev process

[pallid plinth]

im the cure

[lost brook]

I hope Hades 2 also gets a full release this year

[tidal ruin]

Unfortunately, spoiler dodging for people who want to only play full release would be nigh impossible

[uncut citrus]

Toxic leaue

[unique gazelle]

Buy the battle pass to remove the ingame lore parts that prove she's Void

[pulsar roost]

Same but trains are cheap

[brittle garnet]

True!

[torpid fractal]

good thing that team cherry is not doing anything else that will make it difficult to dodge spoilers

[lofty plume]

For me it's like a 12 hour car ride man😭

[uncut citrus]

Are they though.... Are they

[trim estuary]

Man I wish the US had public transportation……

[brittle garnet]

I have friends in the netherlands and gamescom would be a good excuse to meet up with them, but i wont bother going without them

[blazing raptor]

You can get infected warrior skin or the knights color palette for Hornet

[tidal ruin]

Gamescom demo, while not great, isn't quite as bad as EA would be in terms of spoilers

[pulsar roost]

Im travelling from Sweden and its gonna cost around 150 euros to and from

[brittle garnet]

Do you not have a train connection?

[uncut citrus]

yeah but sadly you can probably get a plane for cheaper

[clear tree]

i will watch gamescom on youtube with my friend

[subtle flint]

where you going

[pulsar roost]

That’s not very expensive and I’m pretty sure you could get cheaper tickets

[proven moss]

I'm from Netherlands but I'm not gonna go to gamescon just because I don't care about a demo, I only cares about the whole game

[brittle garnet]

Is that through like an underwater tunnel or bridge or something?

[uncut citrus]

Actually 150 to and from is pretty good I read it as like the one way

[smoky nebula]

Is me being an American muddling my perception of the cost of planes are they like really cheap in Europe

[magic narwhal]

Gonna be real, I wouldn’t until we actually see the demo

[subtle flint]

also hi skrutt, havent seen you in a second

[clear tree]

TC should release silksong on roblox

[deft sonnet]

(looking at the loaded gun on the table) well... at least there's gamescom... in germany... in late august...

[magic narwhal]

If it’s the old demo then you can just watch it from the old shows

[subtle flint]

depends on where as usual, i could fly from sweden to the UK for like 50 usd

[lament bramble]

I'm so done with ts bro

[clear tree]

it only a video game

[pulsar roost]

Yeah there’s a bridge and tunnel connecting Denmark and Sweden

[magic narwhal]

Healthiest approach to this honestly is just find another game in the meantime

[tidal ruin]

You will live, trust

[trim estuary]

Why don’t you go eat mo’ ham to calm down

[lost brook]

I keep stanning Nine Sols

[hexed prawn]

I just assume Silksong doesn't exist and it's all a demented social experiment. That way I'm not let down.

[gray leaf]

So true!!!

[trim estuary]

Where’s 1.4, Split Mod?

[tidal ruin]

GTFO
I keep saying it but I'm addicted to that game and likely will be for a while since its a very long and difficult game

[lament bramble]

Nine sols good and parry gimme dopamine

[magic narwhal]

I’m currently doing a play through of Deltarune, then after that probably playing FF 1-8 on Switch

[proven moss]

Just beat any radiance hitless, after that you need silksong

[lament bramble]

Do radiance 1.0 next

[tidal ruin]

You just need friends, thats the only downside
Preferably 4, even just 3 people can be a lot more challenging

[magic narwhal]

Also doing Monster Hunter on the side

[deft sonnet]

Yeah I need to grind out my Godmode save file

[cerulean sable]

Gtfo has my fav

IM DOWNNNNNN
HELPP MEEEEE UPPPPP

[magic narwhal]

Also this

[cerulean sable]

va sfx

[brave flint]

What is this year's best metroidvania so far? You people actually play games while waiting forever?

[nova ravine]

Among Us VR

[tidal ruin]

"Okay okay fine jeez I'll help you chill the fuck out"

[proven moss]

I played nine sols, ender magnolia and replayed 112% and they are all goated

[lament bramble]

I'll go deal with my 80 game backlog.
See you in the demo if I'm still alive by then.

[nova ravine]

I forgor was Blasphemous 2 this year

[patent knot]

:(

[deft sonnet]

Zoteboat

[brave flint]

Blasphemous was previous year I think

[tidal ruin]

I still need to play blasphemous 1, have it just haven't started it yet
Also need to finish ender lillies

[dusk pilot]

Ender magnolia was peak this year

[nova ravine]

Blasphemous 1 is cool, the boss design goes crazy

[rough quiver]

No skong at direct ☹️

[brave flint]

I loved both Blasphemous games

[smoky nebula]

Penitent one in silence

[nova ravine]

I still need to do blasphemous 2

[tidal ruin]

My favorite (not hk) metroidvania is still ori wotw

[deft sonnet]

IGN LIED

[rough quiver]

Ori wotw is amazing

[velvet sentinel]

lmaooo silksong wasnt at nintendo

[brave flint]

I haven't touched Ender games... idk something in the art/font grinds my gears wrong way

[proven moss]

I preferred ori and the blind forest honestly. I found wotw too much copying from hk
Still a great game but I preferred if it kept it's own identity more

[tidal ruin]

Beautiful graphics, fun gameplay, amazing ost, a simple but still tear-jerking story, the only complaint one might have is that its more platforming than combat based unlike most metroidvanias

[grim forge]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-darktide-darktide-gif-3837205933150604742

[arctic valve]

ign be posting anything for views

[errant hollow]

ori was good but i cant say its my fav metroidvania

[deft sonnet]

I haven't played Will of The Wisps yet, how does it borrow from Hollow Knight?

[rough quiver]

Remember: just because it has good features for a metroidvania doesn’t mean it’s necessarily copying hk. I do agree with u tho

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/rgl-open-rgl-tf2-gif-22448687

[grim forge]

bro got gulped

[winter summit]

i dont think it copied much at all?

[errant hollow]

i liked metroid dread and nine sols wayyy more (and the other game yk)

[tidal ruin]

Reuses some key mechanics, like regeneration and basic combat
Its definitely not glaringly obvious

[proven moss]

The "charm system", the weapons, the regen

[grim forge]

nono it was the BEST metroidvania OF ALL TIME. there is ZERO competition for how PERFECT this metroidvania was

[rough quiver]

The mapmaker

[proven moss]

And like the hub

[red mulch]

i did not enjoy that game at all sadly

[trim estuary]

Thank you Thomas Mahler

[brave flint]

Nine sols was great.. But I actually need to finish it.. Sadly I bought it for pc and right now I have only access to my switch 😦

[red mulch]

it's on switch??

[errant hollow]

its so good

[proven moss]

There's quite a bunch of upgrades compared too ori 1 that were all comparable to hk. And i just wish the mechanics were more like ori 1, it didn't need a big overhaul

[tidal ruin]

Nine sols was mostly great for the combat

[errant hollow]

i rly liked the story even if i got a little lost

[red mulch]

a metroidvania i really enjoyed a lot was guacamelee 2, finished it a few days ago - super fun, great platforming most of all, not too heavy on the exploration but the moment to moment mechanics are so fun i didn't mind

[tidal ruin]

Its easier to decipher than hk but still requires you to pay attention yeah

[proven moss]

Nine sols is absolutely great but makingg health upgrades unobtainable after a certain point is a bit...bad game design

[errant hollow]

the soundtrack is also beautiful it might be my favorite of any game

[rough quiver]

As soon as ss comes out there’s gonna be a bajillion rage bait videos like “not worth the wait” and “Terrible Game?” But they will all end with saying it’s a great game

[red mulch]

honestly as much of a doubter as i am i'm 100% sure skong will resolve all the minor gripes i had with HK and be an absolute GOAT metroidvania

[old berry]

fr gonna be hyped when im playing silksong final boss and hornet chants “lets silk this song”

[proven moss]

Hollow knight has no unobtainable things excepte zote boss fight

[tidal ruin]

Silksong will be a game

[proven moss]

But making a flask upgrade unobtainable when you realise you missed it and your at the final boss ... that's a miss

[errant hollow]

shantae and the pirates curse (it has cute babes)

[grim forge]

its been so long that idek what i want from it rlly. the only expectation i have is that it's at least as long as hollow knight

[red mulch]

i heard good things about it. honestly now if i were to find the best 2D metroidvania imo it would be metroid dread

[trim estuary]

Metroid Dread is awesome if a bit short

[woeful matrix]

thered also gonna be a vid thats like
ss no hit all bosses
with a thumbnail spoiling like 5 bosses

[lost brook]

I personally think that nine sols is a better game than hollow knight but thats just because I liked the story more, nothing really compares to the exploration quality of hk

[red mulch]

honestly every bit we've seen from the game looks absolutely stellar. can't wait to see the demo footage

[lost brook]

How many days do you guys bet after SS release that we will get a tools and crest tierlist

[errant hollow]

its pretty unanimously considered the best shantae game and the most metroidvania like of the series which is a shame

[red mulch]

i like my metroidvanias on the shorter side so it's a good thing for me. like the sweet spot of mvs is 7-8 hours of playthrough and additional 4-5 hours if you're a completionist

[woeful matrix]

loved that game

[grim forge]

god the more i think about the demo the more it annoys me. if the game is releasing within 4 months why are they putting out a demo with a shit ton of spoilers they've been avoiding, when they previously said they didn't want to make a new demo because it's so much effort and takes away from development?

[dense helm]

https://youtu.be/EKzvatkZ774?si=GGMQhQ28MApWCUZH I knew it

[red mulch]

there won't be a shitton of spoilers, chill, it's most likely going to be like 20 minutes long with a starting area. i for one am excited about the new footage

[lost brook]

So much discussion about good metroidvanias reminded me about Minishoot Adventures, not a big game but it has so much charm

[errant hollow]

ive yet to play symphony of the night bc konami is fucking incapable of releasing it on pc or any console i have it pmo

[tidal ruin]

Anyone ever played animal well? I've had it on my wishlist for a while and considering it now

[grim forge]

SOOOOOO GOOD

[red mulch]

oh man when it comes to small cute metroidvanias i enjoyed gato roboto immensely. you're playing as a kitty in a mecha - how cool is that

[errant hollow]

i have to play that too fuuuuuckkk

[minor charm]

Demo wouldn't bother me much, if TC would just tell us why they decided to make a demo this late in the process. Did MS twist their arm? Pay them a ton of money?

[lost brook]

W

[red mulch]

the best animal well type of game 100%

[lost brook]

gato roboto is also something that caught my eye, im probably gonna get to it after i finish haiku the robot and blashphemous 2

[red mulch]

it's like 4 hours long. super fun

chill game to play on the shitter

[trim estuary]

---

Maybe they’ve been done for a while. IDK

[errant hollow]

stupid recommendation but play cave story its literally freeware

[lost brook]

how play on shitter

[trim estuary]

But it looks like Homestuck

[glass steppe]

we are near the finish line but im tired boss

[red mulch]

you play on switch and take it to the loo with you when you need to shit

[errant hollow]

yea thats why u should play it

[brave flint]

Is this normal? For some reason i cant finish games especially metroidvania games on pc. With a handheld I don't have that problem. For example I owned a hollow knight years on my pc but I barely played it enough to meet Hornet. When I got it for the switch I finished the game in a few week's

[coarse leaf]

so thats not normal u should actually consider getting medicated

[tidal ruin]

That sounds like chicken pox to me

[errant hollow]

YOU ARE SICK GET HELP

[brave flint]

What is the medicine for my condition?

[rough quiver]

I had the same issue and then 1 HR LATER HAD A HEART ATTACK!!!!!

[coarse leaf]

anti-psychotics

[tidal ruin]

Silksong

[rough quiver]

Steam deck, is a pc and a handheld

[red mulch]

nintendo switch

[brave flint]

Can team cherry help suffering sick fan in need?

[lost brook]

You guys have already made me add multiple metroidvanias to my wishlist already. Stop notifying me about good indie games or im gonna get overwhelmed

[tidal ruin]

They will Soon™

[timid sail]

Imagine team cherry drops a video tommorow

[coarse leaf]

can we talk about actually good games like Halo 2

[rough quiver]

That’s it, that’s what I’m hoping for now, if ur wrong ur getting sacrificed

[brave flint]

You mean Balatro?

[steep rivet]

Leth, please, say a meaningless statement, so that i can be even mildly conforted in knowing that you're listening.

[tidal ruin]

"A meaningless statement"

[timid sail]

He's quiet everywhere 😭

Ngl 30 second cooldown here is kinda funny

[rough quiver]

Slow mode nullified

[tidal ruin]

your FACE is funny

[vast shuttle]

Have you heard aboit in stars and time (not a metroidvania but still peak)

[errant hollow]

not a metroidvania but play the lisa series its so good

[grim forge]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-smiling-friends-pim-pim-smiling-friends-crusty-gif-2385448551073129567

[heady iron]

hahaha nom

[red mulch]

they will all stay silent till the end of the year, no news come out, the game gets cancelled

[lost brook]

I have it on my wishlist already

[trim estuary]

Halo CE is better

[timid sail]

But everyone knows how so many people want silksong yet no one cares about it, NO ONE, HOW DARE THEY, HOW CAN THEY FOEGET WHAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR IN ALL THESE 6 YEARS. HOW DARE THEY

[tidal ruin]

I've had false knight theme stuck in my head for 3 hours

[vast shuttle]

We’re alredy depressed from silksong do you wanna kill everyone here?

[lost brook]

just waiting for a good sale

[red mulch]

tbh this redditor put it the best:

[steep rivet]

No new demos, he said, xbox says a new demo

[brave flint]

I bet Leth is together with the team cherry in bar drinking beers and while others enjoy their drinks Ari is simultaneously drawing new bugs for the game and every time they spend time this way they have to delay the game one month but Leth does not complain because Ari is paying for his beers.

[errant hollow]

lisa the first isnt on steam but its free you should find it pretty easily then play lisa the painful and get the dlc lisa the joyful

[timid sail]

ts is most realistic scenario sadly

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-halo-ce-halo-ending-legendary-halo-legendary-ending-gif-3300378300731187819

[red mulch]

yep i think so too

[grim forge]

halo ce is so goate

[errant hollow]

yes

[timid sail]

Imagine this is all like 2022 again, we gonna wait for 3 extra years just to get the same thing. See you all in 2028!

[rough quiver]

What if it doesn’t release this year, Xbox says that silksong will be on the console as soon as it comes out, and tc will be completely silent for the next decade

[vast shuttle]

I mean can’t be devastated by lack of silksong if we’re dead ig lol

[lost brook]

isnt lisa a HYPER punishing game where even checkpoints are rigged? very eccentric, maybe ill check it out

[cerulean sable]

RAHHHH PRIMESLOP SPOTTED

[trim estuary]

Last leaked release date was February 2028 so you’re true

[coarse leaf]

we rlly had Bungie Halo, Bayverse Transformers and linkin park at the same time

[red mulch]

xbox speaking out of their ass? color me surprised

[errant hollow]

yes the game is unforgiving and tackles very heavy themes but its so fucking good

[vast shuttle]

Personally i stay on my late 2025/early 2026 relase wondow and if it doesn’t come out here (wich it will ) i don’t fucking know what i’ll do

[red mulch]

i really don't think we're getting the game this year. gamescom is the last straw

[brittle garnet]

Do not yourself be fooled that the most pessimistic outlook is the most "realistic". That's just cope.

[errant hollow]

some games better than others imo (FUCK YOU LISA THE JOYFUL (youre still cool tho))

[red mulch]

i just agree with it

[coarse leaf]

thats stupid

[woeful matrix]

why

[brittle garnet]

Okay but do realize that it's cope