sk-discussion

[solemn juniper]

Just wondering why you are just chilling in a bathroom.

[abstract lodge]

Kill.

[shrewd storm]

Am just crazy

[abstract lodge]

They taking a dump gang 🔥🙏

[shrewd storm]

Nooo :0

[abstract lodge]

Dang my bad

[solemn juniper]

In their pants too

[abstract lodge]

Tragic

[fallen blaze]

Yall dont spam Ws in kai cenats stream?

[abstract lodge]

You need your geo back though

[fallen blaze]

Okay I have to sleep goodnight

[abstract lodge]

Goodnight

[shrewd storm]

Oh anyway I have posters, a sweater, a mug and a mouse pad hk

[solemn juniper]

Who is Kai Centat?

[fallen blaze]

Gramps

[shrewd storm]

Yes

[solemn juniper]

In the bathroom??

[shrewd storm]

Oh and a cap

[abstract lodge]

I have uhh

[shrewd storm]

No

[abstract lodge]

...

[shrewd storm]

In my room

[abstract lodge]

I have a rock that looks like a geo

[shrewd storm]

Lmao

[abstract lodge]

Thats it

[cold maple]

both

[abstract lodge]

😭

[shrewd storm]

Geo rock

[abstract lodge]

Indeed

[solemn juniper]

I have a Danny Divito pillow in my bathroom

[fallen blaze]

Fan?

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-nightreign-gnoster-nightreign-gif-16116987557485927548

[fallen blaze]

Chicken jockey 😏

Oh I'm so fried

Gn

[solemn juniper]

Goodnight<3

[lone crown]

Gnosting time

[rustic ore]

who up gnostin they nightlord

[pallid plinth]

Gm

[pallid plinth]

me my lord 🥺

[lone crown]

La creatura

[sharp agate]

[red mulch]

the game isn't coming out is it

[warped rock]

Before this holiday

It will be out

[red mulch]

idk i know about the discord messages etc etc but it makes me even more skeptical than anything lol

[fallen blaze]

The games right behind me isnt it

[lone crown]

Why would you ever think it’d release ever

You’re in way over your head

Better off playing Deviator

[swift sand]

the worst of gods creations were filtered down, much like how boulders in an ocean sink faster than rocks, which sink faster than sand.
and so it was, that the demons, those creatures of most heavy and vile evil, sunk far below the ocean depths, into the ground and through it.
and they arrived in hell, but they did not stop there. they sunk deeper and deeper, until they finally rested in a place that matched their evil
this place was known as ss-discussion

[warped rock]

Nine sols is like worse hollow knight try that

[tawdry valley]

Blasphemous is like a good dark souls metroidvania try that

[scenic tide]

As a fromsoft freak, the correct term is soulsborne

[swift sand]

as a fromsoft freak, it isn't a soulsborne

[umbral ether]

isn't it souls like

[tawdry valley]

Yeah but it’s 2d and the jump is useful so

[warped rock]

Where can I find more pictures like this

[scenic tide]

I don't know shit about blasphemous

[umbral ether]

also as a souls freak and blaspemes player it is not like dark souls unless you count dashing and not taking damage while dashing as souls like

[scenic tide]

I mean i watched the lore breakdown

But that's it

[tawdry valley]

https://tenor.com/view/pen-gif-23499473

[umbral ether]

what channel

[red mulch]

worse sekiro if anything

[lone crown]

Blasphemous 1 and 2 are fantastic

[swift sand]

yep! thats it. thats the game

[red mulch]

but looks bangin - can't wait to get paid so i can buy it finally

[knotty stag]

Skong

[scenic tide]

Likoris

[umbral ether]

i have been stuck on Eviterno

[lone crown]

Idk
But you can have this
https://x.com/Noru0217/status/1941096982384353714

노루🦌NORU🦌 (@Noru0217)

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X · Jul 4, 2025, 11:29 AM

[tawdry valley]

Blasphemous is better and currently like 2 bucks on sale

[red mulch]

i played blasphemous way back and did not like it that much sadly

could try the second one but don't feel like it

[tawdry valley]

I think the sidequests are stupid and the initial controls are clunky

[lone crown]

The hardest fight has to be the Mea Cupla DLC one

[tawdry valley]

Besides that it goes hard

[sullen plover]

silsong

[lucid forge]

skong fr

[knotty stag]

songsil

[red mulch]

i love the aesthetic but sadly that's the best thing about blasphemous, it felt like molasses to me

[scenic tide]

Skul the hero slayer would be infinitely better without the unnecessary fan service

[lone crown]

Blasphemous 2 is a vast improvement on the original in terms of things like this, like a lot of it felt intuitive and holy fuck the movement feels better

[red mulch]

metroid dread...

[umbral ether]

what fanservice

[tawdry valley]

Yeah I recently bought it and need to play it sometime

[sullen plover]

red pimpillo

[lone crown]

I just wish blasphemous 2 had executions as cool as the original but other than that its fantastic

I played blasphemous 2 for over 16 hours in a row on launch day cause it was that fantastic

[umbral ether]

yeah those were cool

[scenic tide]

Literally all the women in the game are either half naked or have boobs larges than their head

[sullen plover]

uhh guys i dont think this is silkong discussions

[lone crown]

?tag info offtopic

[white sail]

#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.

[tawdry valley]

I didn’t know that about skul lmao

[scenic tide]

🤫

[sullen plover]

nuh uh

[scenic tide]

Look up any female skull character and you'll see it

[umbral ether]

huh never realized that was too busy trying not to die

[sullen plover]

whats ur favorite tool guyssssss

[scenic tide]

Champion is free 40+ bones and nothing else, talk to a wall

[sullen plover]

mines the lifeblood steiroids

[scenic tide]

Not even worth picking up, I'd rather use werewolf than it

[viscid wind]

Cogflies

[umbral ether]

i think the last time i played skul was when the beheaded was added as a skull

[sullen plover]

filthy glowing womb user, never speak to me again

[viscid wind]

????

[sullen plover]

ts NOT terraria summoner class buddy

[viscid wind]

I'm hoping for cogflies not being dogshit like glowing womb was

[sullen plover]

i hope they suck even worse

[sullen plover]

is ts tuff in pharloom

[scenic tide]

Ts IS tuff in wuthering heights

[sullen plover]

so like

is moss mother kinda bad or is that just me

[scenic tide]

Tf is moss mother

[viscid wind]

Have we not only seen her once 6 years ago

Plenty o time to change icl

[sullen plover]

did u think i said bad as in like, not good

[viscid wind]

yuck

[sullen plover]

u dont fw moss mother like that?

[sullen plover]

typa shit bardoon is on daily

u know he be smoking off screen

no way hes that chill otherwise

[scenic tide]

Nah he just chill like that

[sullen plover]

yo godhome logic kinda stupid

if all the bosses are at theyre peak or whatever

[scenic tide]

Wdym

[sullen plover]

why is fighting crystal guardian still a thing

u cant fight thk or rad in godhome

bc they gotta be at their prime or whatever

but u can fight crystal guardian

am i the only one who thinks about this

[scenic tide]

I mean he is technically at his peak

Peak sanity is a whole different thing

[sullen plover]

than why not thk???

[scenic tide]

Fuck, hes AT the peak too

[lone crown]

Godhome is stupid

[lean tapir]

Actually no idea why lesser forms like CG, false knight, soul master etc are still in P5
It's just padding nobody needed

[lone crown]

Lorewise

[scenic tide]

Infection made him weaker

[lean tapir]

They replaced mantis lords ofc but only cause SoB is p5 exclusive

It's silly

[scenic tide]

Same as radiance being limited bc its trapped inside him

[lone crown]

And then they decided to make a new nosk and not include the original

[sullen plover]

so enraged guardian is NOT the same guy???????

he got a lil angry so now hes a whole new person??????

[scenic tide]

Bro by this logic literally anyone can be slapped with enraged and called a day

[lone crown]

Godseeker thinks a random fat fly bearing children is a god need I say more

[sullen plover]

he also thinks vengeflys are

theres statues of vengeflys in the hall of gods for some reason

[lone crown]

And even basic husk enemies

[sullen plover]

is it just me or is anyone else scared that there will not be enough tools or crests when the games out

[scenic tide]

Doesn't mean shit

A fat fly bearing children is still the best as something

[sullen plover]

bro forgot about white lady

[viscid wind]

Godseeker should lack lore iirc

[solemn juniper]

Notice how they don't have the Pale King, I think this proves that he is not our king.

[sullen plover]

they dont have quirrel either, are you tryna say hes a fraud????

[cold maple]

i’m surprised we haven’t gotten even a hint at a new all platform fromsoft game

[lone crown]

Let them cook

I have high hopes

[cold maple]

nobody knows anything

no leaks? nothing?? after a year+ from dlc

[viscid wind]

Yes

[lone crown]

That ER money and experimental side projects improving core shit makes the next big game seem promising

[viscid wind]

Didn't nightslop come out very recently

Does fromslop really pump out games like that

[lone crown]

Not entirely true
Yearly kadokawa reports tell us how many projects are being worked on at the time

Nightslop is better than your slop

[viscid wind]

Anything is better than my slop

[sullen plover]

whats your slop

[cold maple]

yes

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-nightreign-gnoster-nightreign-gif-16116987557485927548

[viscid wind]

My steam library

[cold maple]

fromgoat u mean

[viscid wind]

🥀

[cold maple]

so what do we know

[lone crown]

Even when dipping their toes into a new style of game do they still make an addicting experience literally eating away at my life and letting the game become my personality

[cold maple]

this is the longest period of silence between a major game announcement i think

[sullen plover]

bro forgot about minecraft 2

[cold maple]

for fromsoft

[sullen plover]

ik

[cold maple]

fromsoft would drop bangers yearly

[scenic tide]

Yuh nightpeak came out like a Month ago

[scenic tide]

Damn you got a point

[sullen plover]

minecraft 2 is gonna be souls gane

[viscid wind]

It feels like something is stuck in my ear

[sullen plover]

get it out

quickly

[solemn juniper]

Quirrel politely rejected their offer.

[cold maple]

any news minuscule

any reports

it’s another drought

[sullen plover]

dont call him miniscule

[cold maple]

it’s minuscule

[lone crown]

There are 26 games being developed in kadokawa’s report, 20 of which are console games, split between FromSoftware and three other game studios

This isnt enough information but we know they definitely got at least ONE thing cooking other than Nightreign and Duskbloods

[scenic tide]

Rip it out

Rip it out

[sullen plover]

😪😪😪

[cold maple]

duskbloods is a cash grab

where’s the REAL shit

[sullen plover]

grow a garden

[sullen plover]

theyre not responding, i think they went too deep and ripped a nerve out

[cold maple]

i thought for sure we’d get a game announcement at summer game fest

[sullen plover]

we did bro

silsogn

[scenic tide]

Bloodborne but released on a greedier console

[sullen plover]

nintendo not greedy

if ur broke just say that

[lone crown]

They be showing up at TGA a lot so i definitely expect something major then

[scenic tide]

Okay yep we got a Nintendo agent in our server great

[cold maple]

DECEMBER

:0

[sullen plover]

7/10 ragebait??

i thought i did pretty good

[lone crown]

Only interesting game on the switch 2 is bananza

[cold maple]

say it ain’t so miyazaki

[scenic tide]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhh

[lone crown]

And maybe duskbloods but idk about duskbloods much

[sullen plover]

what about fortnight

[scenic tide]

I ain't paying 60 dollars for that

[cold maple]

duskbloods nor nightreign looked good to me

[scenic tide]

Or whatever tf Nintendo games cost

[cold maple]

i need an actual game

[sullen plover]

nintendo literally made fortnight free and yall still complaining

[cold maple]

a unique full game with a plot

[lone crown]

But aura moments

[sullen plover]

did you know grow a garden was based on a true story

[scenic tide]

Try other soulsbornes

[cold maple]

i’ve done them all

elden is the 4th best

[scenic tide]

Then wait until Miyazaki stops experimenting

[lone crown]

Demon’s souls is the worst

[scenic tide]

Literally 0 debate

If you disagree with this you're not real

[sullen plover]

yall play a bunch of paidslop

just get the good free games like

adventure capitalist

[cold maple]

demon’s souls is the worst

[lone crown]

Ari himself literally said it’s his favorite which is cursed

[cold maple]

then ds2

then elden

[scenic tide]

Block him???

[cold maple]

wait

[sullen plover]

im waiting

[smoky nebula]

Silksong isn't out yet because Ari has bad taste

[cold maple]

i think Elden is better than DeS, DS1, and DS2

the rest shit on eldshit

[scenic tide]

Pvpve with a buttload of unremarkable characters

[cold maple]

1. Bloodborne
2. Dark souls 3
3. Sekiro
4. Eldshit
5. DS1
6. DS2
7. DeS

[sullen plover]

exactly, they need remarkable characters like......elderbug

and the snail shaman

[cold maple]

this is the way

[sullen plover]

is ts tuff on mandalore???

[scenic tide]

Like bro this is the sorriest thing Miyazaki made ever

[cold maple]

what the HELL is that

[sullen plover]

hear me out

[cold maple]

might be running out of ideas

[lone crown]

Elden ring’s complex boss mechanics and the addition of jumping as another dodging method makes it the most fun bosswise

Aesthetically ds3’s bosses are the best, although nightreign’s bosses all look fantastic

Ds1 has my favorite map structure, it’s far from perfect in the area department but i much prefer it over the linearity of the other games

Ds2 has some fire ideas but ultimately tainted by dev hell

[cold maple]

after mashing every idea possible in Elden

[scenic tide]

Bloodborne glaze is crazy

[cold maple]

Elden boss mechanics is shit

[scenic tide]

Weapons are awesome so is the atmosphere

[cold maple]

sekiro has the best bosses

[opaque sigil]

I mean on average I'd definitely put the nightlords aesthetically above ds3

that's not even close

[scenic tide]

But bro bosses after gasgoigcne or whatever tf his name is are pure dookie

[lone crown]

Bloodborne’s base game bosses are straight cheeks

[cold maple]

Bloodborne is perfection

[sullen plover]

oggdo boggdo harder than EVERY souls games

[opaque sigil]

the only ds3 bosses who even compare are like
what nameless king and gael???

[cold maple]

here we go again

[scenic tide]

Secret woods is literally js hell, but i mean every fromsoft game gotta have one

[cold maple]

Heolstor is literally Abyss watcher mixed with pontiff sulyvahn

however you say his name

[opaque sigil]

... no

[scenic tide]

Its true though?

Literal garbage juice

[opaque sigil]

do you think sword = abyss watcher lmao

[cold maple]

Bloodborne has the best story, atmosphere, lore, music, art direction

mhm mhm

[scenic tide]

...and shit gameplay

[cold maple]

thats literally abyss watcher and pontiff mixed with ludwig

[sullen plover]

wtf spoilers brooo

[cold maple]

even has the small knife and everything

[opaque sigil]

least obvious ragebait

[scenic tide]

Wow i sure love my daily dose of gimmick slop

[lone crown]

You could generalize literally every boss in that way 😭

[cold maple]

nah

hahahaha

[scenic tide]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

guys he has a sword this is just a ganondorf copy???

[cold maple]

cope

[scenic tide]

Nameless king is deluxe dragonrider

[lone crown]

Bloodborne’s bosses are actually shit and I BL4’d the whole thing including chalice dungeons to know what im talking about

[sullen plover]

gandalf

wizard

[scenic tide]

Abyss watchers is artorias but make it three

[cold maple]

yes

[opaque sigil]

I can't believe this derivative design uses a sword wow

[lone crown]

Martyr Logarius gets my respect though, he’s cool

[scenic tide]

Exactly

[cold maple]

what’s your point

[scenic tide]

Your points are dogshit your opinions are dogshit go take a nap on the railway or something

[cold maple]

artorias the original

he was so cool

also i don’t know why you guys are insulted

[lone crown]

Who’s insulted?

[cold maple]

heolstor is badass i just said that the other day

oh they/bammo definitely felt i said it in a negative connotation

[scenic tide]

Here we go with the backtracking

[lone crown]

Oh

[cold maple]

where did i insult heolstor

i said he’s a mix of a buncha different previous fromsoft bosses

[opaque sigil]

but he's not

[cold maple]

u just quoted yourself insulting me

literally 3 days ago i said heolstor is the coolest nightreign boss imo

[opaque sigil]

'he uses a sword' doesn't make him a remix of x other boss just because x other boss uses a sword

[scenic tide]

Yes and?

[scenic tide]

.

My point still stands

[cold maple]

uga buga

[scenic tide]

Yes?

[cold maple]

it’s just funny to say

hahahaha

[lone crown]

Libra is the best mage boss they ever cooked

[scenic tide]

First ever mage boss done right

[opaque sigil]

I'd hesitate to outright call libra a mage boss because that's only a part of it and if you really isolated the mage attacks and tried to look at them alone he'd be lacking

[scenic tide]

I love the libra fight

[lone crown]

Other than the frenzy bit he combines normal attacks with tons of casting so i count it as a mage fight

[opaque sigil]

Fair ig

Even Rennala does the fuckin staff twirl

[lone crown]

And he’s very stationary too while also not running and teleporting around excessively like a bitch

[opaque sigil]

Except when he does

[cold maple]

hahahahaha

[lone crown]

Rennala will backstep a ton and hop around and just be very fragile anyways, and spams summons, and can retreat in her moon

[scenic tide]

Imo ds3 is the best soulsborne I played so far

[lone crown]

If he teleports he either teleports to YOU or just a bit away

[cold maple]

ds3 is peak fiction

[opaque sigil]

This is the solo player experience talking

When you have a team his teleports get a bit weirder to work around

[lone crown]

Libra is still like

The most stationary

[cold maple]

minuscule u think elden boss mechanics are better than sekiro?

[lone crown]

His teleportation is nowhere newr as bad

[opaque sigil]

Yeah

[lone crown]

It takes 3 seconds in multiplayer

[lone crown]

No, i think elden is the best compared to all the other games but sekiro is so different its not even a fair comparison

[scenic tide]

WRONG

GROUND SLAM GROUND SLAM GROUND SLAM GROUND SLAM GROUND SLAM

[cold maple]

ooooh

i think DS3 has the best boss mechanics in soulsborne outside of sekiro

[opaque sigil]

Shocking, when you eliminate loadout diversity and center around specific core mechanics those mechanics can be refined in a different way

[viscid wind]

warframe

[cold maple]

Elden boss mechanics are not good methinks

[lone crown]

I found ds3 pretty simple and lets you get away with rolling on impulse
That changed with the Nameless King though

[sullen plover]

holy yap

[lone crown]

He feels pretty different from the rest of the bosses

[opaque sigil]

Ds3 is very simple yes

[sullen plover]

not a single mention of silksong

[cold maple]

but Elden boss aesthetically is peak for sure

they have such good art design

but the mechanics

idk man

when is enough enough

[rocky flicker]

dark souls 2

[scenic tide]

I loved radagon

[lone crown]

In elden there’s so many viable ways to maneuver which makes the bosses so interesting and complex, and the different types of attack timings rather than just guessing when to roll

[cold maple]

radagon is S tier for sure

[opaque sigil]

Radagon is mildly annoying only because of Elden beast but Elden beast isn’t that hard once you’ve seen its moves anyways

[scenic tide]

Godfrey is the first big boss in the soulslikes that's actually good

[lone crown]

Radagon is a perfect demonstration of that

Godfrey is fantastic

[cold maple]

Morgott is peak

[lone crown]

I wish morgott had more HP but yes true

[opaque sigil]

Morgott is piss easy for the point in the game that fight is

[rocky flicker]

I thought I was overleveled for him he seemed way too easy

[opaque sigil]

But er scaling is not very good anyways

[lone crown]

I personally think Mohg is also an S tier and plays the positioning game well

But thats bias

[cold maple]

I hated Mohg

[opaque sigil]

Mohg is good

[cold maple]

his first phase was great

[opaque sigil]

The nihil is annoying to have to budget healing around but whatever

[rocky flicker]

WAHT

[cold maple]

i know

i’m sorry

[scenic tide]

Same

[rocky flicker]

but he beat the allegations :(

[cold maple]

he did

[scenic tide]

Mogh the omen is somehow worse

[lone crown]

The bloodflame is a non-issue in second phase if you’re just wary of your positioning, he also can only have two flame trails active at the same time

[rocky flicker]

I dont think in my current run Ive even beaten mogh the omen

I dont remember where he is

[cold maple]

he’s way down below

[scenic tide]

No one does

[rocky flicker]

Ive gone around the leyndell sewers its such a maze

[scenic tide]

Literal fucking labyrinth of a location

[rocky flicker]

must have missed a turn or something

who cares

[cold maple]

it’s an elevator down

[rocky flicker]

I forgot his spear was strength arcane

and is perfect for my build

which is amazing

[cold maple]

why do so many people hate on bloodborne base game

[rocky flicker]

because theres like 3 weapons in the entire game that scale off arcane

[cold maple]

Gehrman exists

the goat

😔

[lone crown]

Now this is peak

[rocky flicker]

ahh dlc

[scenic tide]

Absolute dookie

[rocky flicker]

I havent played the dlc yet but Ive been spoiled for every single boss already lol

[scenic tide]

Weapons and atmosphere are good

[cold maple]

hahahaha

but let’s look at the game in totality you know

[scenic tide]

Bosses which should be one of the main focuses, are absurdly garbage

[opaque sigil]

Rellana goes hard and I need those swords in nr asap

[lone crown]

Messmer and Bayle are something else

Quality is insane

[rocky flicker]

so what ur telling me is base game elden ring is mid

real

[cold maple]

i’m biased because i like the aesthetic

[lone crown]

In terms of map yes

I prefer dlc level design

Dlc dungeons are also far superior

[cold maple]

i was also there before people convinced themselves Rellana was good

oh boy

[lone crown]

Lesser but better

[cold maple]

was she rage inducing the fans

okay let me rephrase

Rellana is fun

[rocky flicker]

oh yeah thats one thing I dont really like about elden ring

the fuck ass catacombs

[cold maple]

but giving her endless combos with hyperarmor was insane

i remember people found her harder than malenia

[opaque sigil]

Fucking specimen storeroom

[rocky flicker]

running around for 10 minutes needing to solve a mystical ancient riddle jump on a rafter just to fight a tree spirit for some dogshit ability I will never use

[cold maple]

i was stuck on rellana for so long

[lone crown]

There’s far too many random fuckass dungeons with shit you may not even use, i’d rather have bigger dungeons like the Hero’s Graves with multiple goodies to loot from them

[cold maple]

just a guy with a sword

it took forever

[lone crown]

Dlc Dungeons are fantastic though

Even the dlc catacombs each have gimmicks

There’s like 3 catacombs

[cold maple]

i think Elden dlc had 3 good bosses

[rocky flicker]

fuck the catacombs

[cold maple]

Bayle was cinema but not a good boss

[lone crown]

Dont hate on putrescent knight or scadutree avatar

Bayle is intuitive and fun

[rocky flicker]

BAYYYYYYLLLLLLLLE

[cold maple]

nothing intuitive about that camera

[rustic ore]

i think bayle would have been better if his head was easier to hit regularly

thats it tbh

[cold maple]

and that head moving everywhere

[rocky flicker]

this but for every single dragon

[rustic ore]

yeahhhhhhhhh

[rocky flicker]

toe tickling simulator

[cold maple]

Messmer Midra and Putrescent Knight

[rustic ore]

ancient dragons are far and above the worst dragons ive fought

Putrescent Knight can go suck a fat one bro

fuck that guy

[lone crown]

Putrescent knight is great

[cold maple]

Putrescent Knight is so snooth

smooth

[lone crown]

A nice and simple fun boss

[rustic ore]

snooth

[cold maple]

snooth

[rocky flicker]

snooth

[torpid orchid]

Is there a chance silksong gets delayed to 2026?

[lone crown]

You can jump over lots of his shit too so more fun points

[rocky flicker]

yeah if one of them die itll probably be delayed

[lone crown]

Not a rellana fan?

[rustic ore]

Rellana was fun

[scenic tide]

I like it too but i admit its garbage

[cold maple]

infinite combos with hyperarmor

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/putrescent-knight-horse-flames-blue-gif-3774899643093085973

Peak knight

[rustic ore]

"Did you pray today?"
-Rellana, the Twin Moon Knight

[cold maple]

oh i was there when people said she was harder than malenia

[rustic ore]

Just use guard counters

[cold maple]

and she had no cutscene

[rocky flicker]

I LOVE MALENIA SO MUCH

shes my fav boss

shes beating my ass but its so fun

[lone crown]

They absolutely didnt know about scadutree fragments or something lmao

[rustic ore]

I mean, she is supposed to be scaled for post-Mohg.
Every SOTE boss is post-Mohg

[cold maple]

gorgeous

[opaque sigil]

Yes I’m sure people were complaining that the new boss they didn’t know how to fight was too hard

[scenic tide]

Imo bayle is the best dragon fight, anyone that says the fight isn't good is wrong imo

[rustic ore]

And she has a similar tempo TO Malenia

[cold maple]

i love your sarcasm

[rustic ore]

Malenia is still harder though, because of the healing

[rocky flicker]

its probably the best dragon fight but is that saying much

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/messmer-messmer-the-impaler-gif-12210635995141999330

[rocky flicker]

placidusax was pretty awesome but mostly dragons were not that great

[opaque sigil]

That is in fact some bullshit

[lone crown]

Bayle’s the best dragon fight after getting accustomed to each one’s moveset

[opaque sigil]

Fuck that healing totally unnecessary

[rustic ore]

I genuinely think most people forgot this one simple fact when going into SOTE

[cold maple]

Rellana had endless combos with hyperarmor

[lone crown]

Just find attack windows

[cold maple]

in general, a lot of complaints people had with base game bosses

[rocky flicker]

shrimply dodge

[cold maple]

the dlc doubled down on

[cold maple]

i did

[cold maple]

i did

[rocky flicker]

shrimply dodge again

[cold maple]

she belongs in sekiro

[rustic ore]

She didn't have hyper-armor
She just wore literal armor and had less reaction to hits than Malenia. She still flinched often.

[lone crown]

Rellana is extremely prone to getting crouched, strafed, or having attacks jumped over

[cold maple]

well i did

[rocky flicker]

infinite attack combo? just infinite dodge idiot

[cold maple]

I DID

[rustic ore]

Also guard counter

[rocky flicker]

you clearly didnt dodge enough

[cold maple]

I DIDDDD

[rustic ore]

Guard counter and Rellana/Midra are non-issues

[rocky flicker]

is that the parry

[rustic ore]

No, it's the mechanic people forgot existed

That's actually absurdly powerful

[rocky flicker]

yeah idk what that is

[opaque sigil]

Chip damage 😔

[rustic ore]

I eat chips for lunch

[rocky flicker]

people guard?

[lone crown]

Messmer is the best dlc fight to learn

[rustic ore]

Messmer is so fun

[rocky flicker]

weirdos

[cold maple]

Scadutree actually wasn’t too bad

[rustic ore]

Nah fuck that thing

[cold maple]

rellana was fun with st trina swords

[lone crown]

I implore you to learn messmer’s fight its just really fun

[cold maple]

and you put her to sleep

i like her

[opaque sigil]

No boss refight

[rustic ore]

Kid named Elden Ring Boss Arena:

[cold maple]

yeah i did messmer and midra until hitless

because they were fun

oh peakdra

[rocky flicker]

why doesnt elden ring have boss refights :(

[rustic ore]

because Michael Zaki hates you specifically

[rocky flicker]

they should have a hall of gods and it should be within the hollow knight canon

just to fuck the lore even harder

[cold maple]

Peakdra and Peaksmer

Midlana and Midahn

[rocky flicker]

and soldier of godrick should be there

[cold maple]

Midlana and Shitdahn*

[rustic ore]

Radahn's phase 1 was good imo

[cold maple]

kidding

[rustic ore]

Then Miquella got a piggyback ride and it all went to shit

[sullen plover]

whos the baddest hk character

[cold maple]

rellana isn’t mid

[cold maple]

the 3 piece combo ender??

it was just rng atp

[rustic ore]

the what

[cold maple]

the infamous 3 swipes

[rustic ore]

sorry is this some rolling joke im too backstep talisman-pilled to understand

[cold maple]

hahahahaha

uhhhh

did you play it on release

[rustic ore]

yes day one

[rocky flicker]

silksong is gonna be like the first game I play on release ever

[cold maple]

so no way you don’t know about his infamous attack that got patched last year

[rustic ore]

i didnt have a problem with the double cross because i always roll to the right

therefore the followup x-cross never hit cus i had time to dodge

and i mean like. on his ass to the right

also, guard counters

again

super powerful

use them

[rocky flicker]

no

[opaque sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/guardian-name-title-hawk-walk-gif-111526685879152494

[rustic ore]

[cold maple]

that just wasn’t possible

[rustic ore]

it was, because that's how i beat PCR

[cold maple]

but it was often a case by case basis

even the youtubers had to get something special for it

regular roll wasn’t possible for a lot of people

not enough time

[rocky flicker]

I should play the dlc

[cold maple]

the only way is if radahn was elevated

[rustic ore]

im not most ppl tho
rip to them but im different

[cold maple]

hahahaha

[rocky flicker]

I wanted to fully beat base game first but yall hyping it up

[cold maple]

but i mean literally wasn’t possible

like the game would not allow it

but it wasn’t the case for everyone

[rustic ore]

yeah if you weren't on his ass to the right before the swing came out you were just hit every time

[lone crown]

The cross slash was a frametrap and essentially impossible to survive hitless without constantly running to the left (his right) and then rolling at the last second which ruined the quality of the fight cause he could do it whenever he wanted, even in a row

Not to mention there are other actual attacks that punish you if you roll too early expecting cross slash

[opaque sigil]

I didn’t realize we copies were personalized

[cold maple]

it was an rng run ender

[lone crown]

Excluding any support from talismans and other stuff of course

[rustic ore]

indeed

my game just came out better tbh

[lone crown]

Also elevation could also save you from the cross slash

But inconsistent

[cold maple]

it was strange, for some people what minuscule said happened

[lone crown]

I saw him do it 3 rimes in a row before

[cold maple]

but for others you could still get hit and not get stunlocked

[lone crown]

Idk i do challenge runs and use debug to practice attacks and ive tried all kinds of approaches

[cold maple]

i’m not sure why that was the case

[lone crown]

And that attack is inexcusably fucked

[south vigil]

friend inside me

[cold maple]

but i remember some people didn’t get stunlocked after the second swipe

but i always did

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-really-woody-seriously-unimpressed-gif-897508317794433772

[lone crown]

Even if technically possible by running left the whole time it ruins the quality of the rest of the fight by just rolling left all the time

[cold maple]

and was the case for a lot of people

[rocky flicker]

me describing my tapeworm

[cold maple]

i thought the dlc was pretty mid but others enjoy it a lot

so i hope you do

[cold maple]

right

his second phase was actually better with that because the light pillars would knock you out of the stunlock

before the double swipe

and if you had the uhh

marika’s braid or something

they did no damage really

[lone crown]

Yeah

[cold maple]

have you played recently

[lone crown]

Oh yeah have you seen the thing in hinterlands

[cold maple]

did they fix miquella’s godforsaken hair

[opaque sigil]

The village ?

[lone crown]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

I went there got minor erdtree and some talisman

[lone crown]

Theres cool music there

Very subtle but peaceful

Its my favorite pvp spot

[opaque sigil]

Then went to the finger ruins and immediately died and that’s the last thing I did in that save

[lone crown]

Did you ever go to the manus metyr church

[opaque sigil]

No

[lone crown]

The one after bonny village but before you entered shadow keep

You should go to that BEFORE finger ruins

Otherwise you’ll waste your time

[opaque sigil]

Idk if I’m going back to that one, I already did the scadutree fragment song and dance once

[cold maple]

you haven’t finished the dlc

[lone crown]

Oh fair

Tammo did but not all the optional bosses

[opaque sigil]

Metyr sounds annoying anyways with that one bullshit attack

[lone crown]

Yeah that attack is inexcusable

[cold maple]

i did metyr really early

like before putrescent knight i think

[lone crown]

Since metyr is fuckass hidden nobody complained nearly as much vs radahn cross slash

[cold maple]

because i wanted that sword

wait not true

after PK

[rocky flicker]

are you supposed to do mohg or godfrey first

[cold maple]

up to you

[cold maple]

the black hole attack?

[lone crown]

Id say both are pretty equal

[rocky flicker]

I know godfrey is close to the end so Ive just kinda left him there and gone to do other stuff

Im gonna be overlevelled as hell but oh well

[lone crown]

Yeah as far as i can tell the first laser of that attack is unavoidable if you arent already 50 meters away

[cold maple]

right

i forgot about that

[lone crown]

Without the help of other stuff like raptor of the mists

[cold maple]

did you do malenia before mohg

[rocky flicker]

im on malenia right now

[cold maple]

woahhh

[rocky flicker]

like my save is on the grace outside her room

[cold maple]

you might be underleveled

[rocky flicker]

dont think so im over 140

[lone crown]

Malenia has the highest scaling in the whole basegame

Like she has her very own scaling tier higher than the haligtree itself

[cold maple]

i’d say do mohg and godfrey first

[rocky flicker]

this is my first run so Ive been trying to do like everything

ive already done mohg

[cold maple]

ohhh

i thought you hadn’t done it yet

[lone crown]

Godfrey is right before the final boss so its up to you

[cold maple]

have you done all the side quests and stuff

[rocky flicker]

ill do godfrey after malenias done

[rocky flicker]

Idk I think ive done a lot of them

[lone crown]

Godfrey is also just peak

[cold maple]

godfrey is cinema

[cold maple]

which ones

like

[rocky flicker]

I dont remember everything ive done just list some shit and ill tell u if ive done it

[cold maple]

well i don’t want to spoil something

it’s a slippery slope

[rocky flicker]

I have basically already been spoiled in everything in the base game and dlc dont worry

[cold maple]

oh

let’s see

have you done Fia’s quest

[rocky flicker]

yeah

[cold maple]

and the dragon

nice

[rocky flicker]

killed the dragon that was in her head

[cold maple]

have you done Ranni’s

[rocky flicker]

yeah got the cool sword and I cant use it because it needs int

[cold maple]

oh what are you running now

faith based

[rocky flicker]

marai's executioner blade

arcane strength

[cold maple]

ohh arcane

nice

[rocky flicker]

I used mohg spear for placidusax because the ability is awesome and it works with the build

[cold maple]

what’s your favorite boss so far

[rocky flicker]

malenia easily

[cold maple]

wow

[rocky flicker]

shes so sick and shes super fun

[cold maple]

waterfowl?

[rocky flicker]

and I can actually use my marai ability

[rocky flicker]

it always hits me a little but Ive gotten better at not instantly dying

[cold maple]

i don’t like a lot of her boss mechanics

[rocky flicker]

the healing?

[cold maple]

but i think she has one of the best designs aesthetically in the whole Fromsoft

beautiful boss

cool concept

[rocky flicker]

shes awesome

best Ive gotten so far is about 20% hp on phase 2

thats after I think 2-3 hours

[cold maple]

that’s pretty good

[calm thorn]

Who are you talking about ?

[cold maple]

my favorite in base game is Maliketh

[rocky flicker]

malenia

[cold maple]

he’s so cool

best doggo

[calm thorn]

Oh this boss

[cold maple]

what did you think of Maliketh

[rocky flicker]

im inspired im booting up elden ring im beating her right now

[rocky flicker]

he was also awesome

[cold maple]

canonically the most badass in Elden

[rocky flicker]

I dont think there are any main story bosses Ive disliked

its mostly just been dragons and the catacombs

I guess fire giant was kinda annoying

[cold maple]

fire giant was pretty annoying hahahaha

[rocky flicker]

malenia time

[calm thorn]

I heard things about her like "she's the hardest boss in the game" or smth

[cold maple]

i just wish with dragons and bigger bosses, they zoom the camera out a bit

[cold maple]

she was

she’s second hardest now

[rocky flicker]

didnt dlc final boss get patched

is he still harder than her

[cold maple]

he did

well deserved

[calm thorn]

Considering the fact that i litterally beat nameless king yesterday, i think i'll not play elden ring soon

[cold maple]

sometime last year

idk if they have done more since

[cold maple]

yes

i’ve done pre and post and i’d say still harder

outside of waterfowl she isn’t bad

waterfowl was just very toxic

[cold maple]

was it in Dark Souls or Nightreign

[calm thorn]

Dark souls 3

[cold maple]

niceee

[calm thorn]

Is he nerfed in nightrein ?

[cold maple]

uhh i’m not sure

i haven’t played nightreign but people like it

i haven’t heard any complaints about him there

is it your first time playing the dark souls games

[calm thorn]

Nah i beat ds1 before

But this guy is way thougher than a lot of bosses in ds3

[cold maple]

oh yeah he’s hardest base game boss

and i wanna say he was the first fromsoft boss to do delayed attacks

at least to that extent

if i’m not mistaken

do you have the dlc too

[tulip edge]

Kind of

[rocky flicker]

damn the ghost attack she does in phase 2 is fucked

idk how to dodge the thrusting one

[cold maple]

yeah that’s her toughest move besides waterfowl

are you using summons

[rocky flicker]

nah

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/sentient-pest-wisdom-of-night-gnoster-nightreign-elden-ring-gif-10156240432429161932

[cold maple]

you’re doing very well then methinks

i remember kai cenat took 24 hours i think on malenia or something crazy

[cold maple]

nightreign does have sick boss design

and music

[lone crown]

I dont care about kai much but i can at least respect him for picking up a completely new kind of game way out than what he’s used to, on top of chat pressure shitting on him, and stuck through until beating pre-nerf radahn

[cold maple]

Caligo and Heolstor’s music

out of this world

[lone crown]

Gnoster music is so beautiful

You want out of this world music?

Listen to Libra’s then

[cold maple]

i don’t watch him but had to tune in to his elden playthrough

[lone crown]

Its the most unhinged music they ever made

[cold maple]

and real props for sticking through that

he went through like 20 different builds for radahn it was hilarious

[lone crown]

Midra’s theme sounds like sunshine and rainbows by comparison

Weird ass track

[cold maple]

Libra is the frenzy frog looking thing right

it floats

[lone crown]

Frenzy goat

It uses holy AND frenzy which is a first

His AI name in the files is called Baphomet

His staff has five fingers as a representation of using both holy and frenzy, a mix of three and two fingers

[opaque sigil]

Are the pillars his only actual holy attacks or does the machine gun do it too

[lone crown]

11/10 design

Machine gun is holy

Raining rocks is holy

[opaque sigil]

The non-rock rain and upheaval are fire I assume?

[lone crown]

Yeah

The explosions also fire i think

[cold maple]

is there actual plot or just backstory kinda thing

[opaque sigil]

He’s got a whole thing of being weak to what he uses

[cold maple]

and all the characters have lore right

i saw a really dark cutscene with revenant i think

not sure what was going on

[lone crown]

In nightreign there is a plot yeah

Its not complex at all its just taking down the night or whatever and your usual cryptic fromsoft shit

[cold maple]

oh cool

[lone crown]

The ending has an interesting implication but thats about it

[cold maple]

is the dlc going to have more plot

like shadow of erdtree

[opaque sigil]

Restraint

[lone crown]

Yeah same

Also practicing restraint

[cold maple]

restraint from what

spoilers stuff

[lone crown]

Miyazaki helped ishikazi with the introductory concept of Nightreign as far as story goes

Then after he let ishikazi do the rest

[cold maple]

oh i don’t mind spoilers

[lone crown]

To have it make sense

[cold maple]

i’m a bit confused on what’s going on

but i haven’t looked up lore stuff for it

[opaque sigil]

Surely that’s why certain things aren’t in sote

[rocky flicker]

george rr martin wrote everything that had anything to do with incest

it was all him

[cold maple]

why does the firekeeper woman have more modernish clothes

[lone crown]

Nightreign final boss makes up for the personal disappointment of SOTE final boss being a familiar overrated character instead of literally anyone new or even just Miquella by himself

[opaque sigil]

Now it’s some random carian king

/nox

Maybe

[lone crown]

And something to do with silver tears too

Its the Lord of Night mentioned in the nox item descriptions 100%

[calm thorn]

No

[opaque sigil]

And church of vows etc

[cold maple]

are the nightfarers from those lands or are they summoned there

[lone crown]

It feels so satisfying when they actually address a character in the lore only mentioned in item descriptions

Lord of Night as well as St Trina apply to that

[cold maple]

i thought the lord of night could be ||the tarnished|| no?

the ||age of the stars ending||

or is it different because it’s ranni’s version

[lone crown]

Nah, people would speculate that in ER but after nightreign that being the answer is improbable

[cold maple]

i thought it was an alternate world thing so both could be true

[lone crown]

Heolstor isnt the tarnished either cause we know when NR takes place

[opaque sigil]

Also the tarnished can’t get that shit

[lone crown]

Too many nox parallels to ignore in Heolstor

[cold maple]

can’t they both be Lord of Night?

[calm thorn]

Isn't this world some kind of multiverse ? (Dark souls stuff)

[cold maple]

in their respective worlds

[lone crown]

The lord of night is mentioned to be something the nox were trying to literally make

Or construct

[cold maple]

i just assumed because of the age of stars thing

[lone crown]

Understandable

[opaque sigil]

Tbf who knows to what extent heolstor really looks like what they envisioned, dunno if the outer god meddling was intended but it might’ve been

[calm thorn]

I mean is there an explanation for other fromsoft games bosses

[cold maple]

Heolstor is badass

[lone crown]

They were beckoned to limveld by the nightlord or whatever

[cold maple]

his aesthetic and fight is so good

why did he split the sky like that

[calm thorn]

This guy has good references

[cold maple]

what’s his lore

[lone crown]

Reveals the skybox of previous nightlords and coats one of his swords in the respective element of that nightlord

[cold maple]

ohhhhh shit that’s so cool

so he’s an artificial being then?

[opaque sigil]

No

[lone crown]

Its hard to say

We dont know too much

We have uhhh

Two item descriptions in NR to work with

[opaque sigil]

||carian king consort|| is a safe ass bet

[lone crown]

Could always be both

[opaque sigil]

Eh

[lone crown]

||Silver tears can be people too (a cut questline existed where there was a silver tear)||

[opaque sigil]

He has a normal hand still, and there’s the ||man who was once a knight|| shit

[lone crown]

Oh true

[opaque sigil]

Also and I can’t say this enough the church of vows has a nox statue in a carian moongazing pool

[cold maple]

i wish st trina was a boss or had more

[lone crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784107545119686676/1390794443623497868/caption.gif

[cold maple]

i would have really liked to see Trina’s dream realm

[opaque sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-nightreign-nightreign-elden-ring-gif-8548256320063527882

[cold maple]

Bloodborne style

so Heolstor is the ||Carian King consort||

does his sword come from the third moon? i saw people saying that

[cold maple]

i think it was the Blackmoon

[lone crown]

Fan concepts

[sage glade]

er?

[lone crown]

Fanmade er renders before the dlc dropped

[cold maple]

i remember this

gorgeous

[lone crown]

Unfortunately not real

[cold maple]

she had really cool trina concepts

[lone crown]

I believe it

[sage glade]

sick

[cold maple]

especially in cut content it implied that we might get to see her dream realm

i was excited

but 😔

[lone crown]

Excited until incestscourge predahn arrived

[cold maple]

everyone believing that shitdahn was an obvious fake mod is my favorite fromsoft community moment

[lone crown]

Mohg the goat was found innocent at least

[cold maple]

i remember the backlash that leaker got

because it was sucha OBVIOUS fake

[cold maple]

and then he leaked Messmer and Bayle

and people even coped and thought they had to be fake too

i remember someone said the lighting in Messmer’s arena was off

hahahahaha

shitdahn was THAT bad

[lone crown]

It was alpha footage though
Messmer’s snakes weren’t even animated in the leak

But yeah i saw the leaked radahn stuff, the unfinished one, and it looked… wow

That whole thing was a shitshow yeah

[cold maple]

i thought it was fake too

HOW COULD I NOT

RADAHN AGAIN

and the boss description

no one believed fromsoft would ever

[cold maple]

Mohg may be a blood cult fanatic but at least he’s not Predahn

so do the nightfarers live in Limveld too? or were they summoned there?

[lone crown]

All kinds of places

Executor came from the Land of Reeds

Others came from places outside the lands between

Raider was a seafarer

[cold maple]

the one that looks like fire keeper but bloodborne

[lone crown]

Duchess is from Windwail Knoll

[cold maple]

does she exist in that time? she looks more modern looking

[lone crown]

Same as Wylder

There is no time shenanigans

[cold maple]

and they’re not tarnished right

[lone crown]

Nope

[cold maple]

where is the erdtree

it takes place around or after shattering right

i really need to watch a lore breakdown

the revenant? the doll looking character

her cutscene was like a horror movie

[lone crown]

Erdtree is gone in NR

Server didnt like me sending 6 images at once

[cold maple]

oh so Night shenanigans removed it

[lone crown]

Yeah

Night is in opposition of the erdtree

[cold maple]

do you like the Night stuff better or the Erdtree

[rocky flicker]

malenia is dead

[cold maple]

like aesthetic

[lone crown]

I hate the erdtree personally

[cold maple]

niceeeee

[lone crown]

Burn it down

Singlehandedly fucked every culture before the erdtree grew

[cold maple]

it did

rip to the fire giants

[lone crown]

Even pissed off the dragons

[rocky flicker]

I guess godfrey then final boss then dlc time

[cold maple]

but Golden Boy

he was so cool that the dragons were like maybe you guys aren’t so bad

godwyn

who the dlc should have been about

maybe

[rocky flicker]

bum couldnt even take on 10 black knife assassins

[cold maple]

he was taking a nap

not fair

they’re invisible with the concept of Death in a knife

[lavish root]

why did this turn into a ER discussion...

i mean i love ER but why

[carmine island]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3TXV0txNTcLXCktESOcMuG it’s a delrarune reference

[glossy berry]

TRUE

[rocky flicker]

tf else is there to talk about

silksong?

[glossy berry]

nightreign rocks what else do you want us to talk about

[lavish root]

idk

there is a server for ER i assume

[glossy berry]

why would we not talk in here though

?tag info offtopic

[white sail]

#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.

[carmine island]

There isn’t actually you’re very rude to presume so

[lavish root]

im not saying you cant im just confused

[marsh hemlock]

elden ring goated

[lavish root]

why is that rude lol

[carmine island]

This server is the only discord server that’s exists

[glossy berry]

its true

[lavish root]

ik

[glossy berry]

😔

mass extinction of the rest its so sad

[lavish root]

alr

[carmine island]

Because I’m being satirically pedantic

[glossy berry]

can we not post chapter 5 spoilers in chat

[carmine island]

Mae they hate silly guys like me

[pallid plinth]

yes but i chose not to

[glossy berry]

oh for shame

actually heinous how could you

[rocky flicker]

how tf is godfreys massive aoe in phase 2 dodged

I feel like I dodge it perfectly and then theres a second hit

[glossy berry]

wait which one

[rocky flicker]

the massive one

the pull up the ground one

[hard meadow]

Its been a while since ive seen kirbstar

[nimble raptor]

Think you just gotta

https://tenor.com/view/racoon-gif-26495501

Or maybe you can jump over it