sk-discussion

[cedar trench]

every character in deltarune is either genderqueer or on the homosexual spectrum

[tidal ruin]

What even is susie

[cedar trench]

lowk need me. a girl like noelle

[kind ermine]

A lesbian or a reindeer?

[heady iron]

or a high schooler 🤨

[floral delta]

Lesbians?

Where

[coral prawn]

purple

[cedar trench]

what's the 🤨 for i'm 17

i am a high schooler myself also not what i meant

i meant rich parents

[obsidian ledge]

reindeeeerrrreeereeree

[viscid wind]

what the fuck is going on

[formal karma]

Nothing

[normal token]

Just chillin'

[gray parcel]

Should I read the rest of delicious in dungeon?

[cunning geode]

we don’t call it that…

[gray parcel]

Sorry

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-deno-momotaros-dance-momotaro-dancing-groovy-grooving-gif-21184095

i forgive you

[gray parcel]

I mean autism, lesbian, and old man eat monster in the dungeon

[cunning geode]

hmm 👹

[gray parcel]

Regardless I keep seeing maybe spoilers for it so I just wanna read it 😭

[tidal ruin]

Correct

[viscid wind]

i so cant wait for tomorrow

[floral delta]

Hmmmmm

I have no clue what you're talking about

[cunning geode]

dungeon meshi

[floral delta]

-#

[velvet sentinel]

what the hell

[floral delta]

What the what

[gray parcel]

Laios is autism
Lesbian is marcille
Old man is chilchuck

I forgot to put homeless man

[floral delta]

I know

[cunning geode]

i like how the way you ordered these words makes it look like Laios’ name is autism

[floral delta]

Old man for Chilchuk?

[shell yacht]

You also forgot the sassy lost child

[floral delta]

Isn't he like 23?

[gray parcel]

That’s middle aged

For halflings

They live up to 50

[shell yacht]

He's closer to 30 I think ||with three kids||

[floral delta]

Old fuck

[silver oak]

Any silkers in chat

[tawny storm]

I'm gonna silk it while watching sgf

[woeful matrix]

songing my silk

[fervent raft]

silksong tonight?

[normal token]

ALL SILK SPOOLS FULL POWER

[gray parcel]

Let’s deconstruct this sentence

[silver oak]

I’m sitting next to a generator feeling the sickness take my body

woe is me

[tawny storm]

Silksong will cure you

[lapis oyster]

Silky nutmeg ganache tomorrow

[tawny storm]

https://tenor.com/view/geoff-keighley-summer-games-fest-summer-games-gif-25940702

[lapis oyster]

Wrap it up

[woeful matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279262687070781564/1379959420942815293/porosilly.gif

[strange shoal]

Tomorrow is real.

What will we do once it is released....where will we go...what will even be exciting anymore.

[shell yacht]

Why are you sitting there inhaling the fumes

[strange gulch]

is Silksong going to release Team Cherry tomorrow?

[strange shoal]

Team silk releases cherry song tomorrow

[rocky flicker]

they're gonna release it in between the showcases with no news in any of them

[strange shoal]

No lies detected.

[strange gulch]

I cannot wait for Tomorrow to release Cherrysong

[strange shoal]

Fever ^

[strange gulch]

Team Tomorrow has got to release SGF by Cherrysilk

[viscid wind]

tomorrow tribe

[strange shoal]

We have been overconditioned to disappointment so we are all numb to excitement.

[shut glen]

I'm feeling rly hornet rn

[sharp agate]

Uherrm did u get a Switch 2??

[shell salmon]

The size of it is pretty impressive
But i need to see hows Skong on it first

[strange gulch]

is it worth?

[viscid wind]

my most heartfelt condolences

[shell salmon]

[sharp agate]

Gotdamn, is Zelda Totk beautiful in 120 fps

[shell salmon]

I would know if thats mine

[silver oak]

My medicine

[gray parcel]

Wombat I know it was you 👹

[viscid wind]

detra rune

amogn us

[open narwhal]

delartune

[strange gulch]

undertale

[coral prawn]

oooo new DRG merch on kickstarter

DICE!!!

[sinful flare]

DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[median fractal]

thats what hornet says to lace after she refuses to give a kiss

[shell yacht]

This is a rabbit hole, it's worse than buying cards like magic or Yu-Gi-Oh, I have way too many dice

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/ganondorf-zelda-cartoons-gif-17158836

[tidal ruin]

I can now officially say skong tomorrow and be correct

[coral prawn]

I don't own an dice Yet

[stiff mango]

the timer and the dates dont add up

[shell salmon]

30 more hrs

[tidal ruin]

Thats a little weird

[shell salmon]

🥀

[tidal ruin]

Skong in 31 hours

[stiff mango]

its on the 7th for me

[shell salmon]

[shell yacht]

22hrs is 7am tmrw

Ugh

[stiff mango]

its not

[shell yacht]

At least I know there will be 3 hours of pre show

[stiff mango]

the timer is wrong

[tidal ruin]

The next 31 hours will be the slowest hours of the entire silksong wait

Except they won't

[stiff mango]

if we dont get silklsong news this week

then im going to skong myself

[tidal ruin]

The 31 hours before release will be slower

[shell yacht]

Because after sgf is over you still have to wait till February

[tidal ruin]

It would be fitting if they announced it as an actual ARG (not on william's Twitter)

[shell yacht]

The hell are you talking about

[tidal ruin]

I'm not talking

[mossy sail]

Unless they are the same ones 😉

[tidal ruin]

This is true

[misty lantern]

Fr???

[opaque sigil]

no

[misty lantern]

Turns out bait is believable (I'm dumb)

[pulsar crown]

it really does look like a steam deck- holy- also is it just me or does it look sad? like I get not wanting Neon colors but it looks like it'd fit on one of those grey/beige Pinterest boards T-T

[full ledge]

I need mine already

Not getting it until tomorrow

Walmart being cringe

[pulsar crown]

Can't afford it yet, we don't get alot of disposable income T-T but I might get it to help withthe hollowknight lag

[full ledge]

Hollow knight will still have input latency on the switch 2

1432 has more input latency and that’s the patch consoles run

[shell yacht]

https://vxtwitter.com/nakamura_a_/status/1930458353018515637
They got mad about the idiots eating cartridges so now the switch eats you

なかむら....？ (@nakamura_a_)

Switch2で負傷する男

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 5, 2025, 2:55 AM

[final lichen]

Just finished chapter 3

It's peak

[tame hound]

What are the chances that silksong is at this game show tomorrow

[shell yacht]

Pretty close to zero

But not zero

[tame hound]

I want skongggggggg

[dreamy relic]

Tomorrow for sure!

[tame hound]

I guess Deltarune will have to tide me over

[cinder island]

with every day between now and dec 31 the odds only increase

[lament lotus]

annoying ass bitch

[cinder island]

cant lose

[slender juniper]

RALSEI DIES AT THE END

[tame hound]

Watch it get delayed again 😭

[final lichen]

If it's so I'm going to find you

[cinder island]

nah i fully beleive they have been burned enough times they wouldnt have given any window unless they were sure

[final lichen]

Start running

[fiery burrow]

When they revealed Kris was the Knight and then they killed Ralsei I cried

[tame hound]

The world actually ends at the end of ch3

[opaque sigil]

it has been delayed once

[tame hound]

Chapter 4 doesn’t exist

[slender juniper]

Kiss killed ralsei fr

[tidal ruin]

Also the recent steam changes heavily imply the game is finished, so if that truly is the case there's no reason to delay that I can think of

[tame hound]

Kris is a monster

[pulsar crown]

The latency is fine, oddly enough it helps and isnt to bad since I play on hanheld , its more the freezing when i first boot it/ fight large amount of enemies that gets a little annoying (greenpath/city of tears have been the worst offenders so far)

[slender juniper]

Nah We are an monster

[tame hound]

Team cherry accidentally deletes the entire game

[cerulean sable]

dont listen to them

80 percent chance, everything is lining up

SGF is inevitable

[slender juniper]

Silksong tommorow

[tame hound]

Idk man we have literally been saying this for the last 6 years now 😂

[tidal ruin]

The remaining 20% is xbox showcase

[cerulean sable]

also were gonna blow up extas1 again if his 2nd silksonf prediction goes wrong

[lament lotus]

if i roll a 12 silksong shows up

[cerulean sable]

but prior to his first hk announcement, his Xbox leaks were credible so.this is his 2nd litmus test

[tame hound]

Is that a leaker?

[cerulean sable]

ye

[final lichen]

Silksong Tomorrow (or in 2 days)

[cerulean sable]

said in Mar 2025 that TC alledgedly gave Xbox a June ish 2025 deadline

[tame hound]

We sacrifice you if it doesn’t get announced

[cerulean sable]

then the April 4 shit onwards happened

[lament lotus]

uh yeah its not happening

[tidal ruin]

11...
June 11th release

[cerulean sable]

for gods sake, silksong files on the steam page

[cerulean sable]

and we got achievos

[tame hound]

You’re supposed to roll again if you get doubles like in monopoly

[tidal ruin]

Calling it right now its the 11th

[lament lotus]

close enough

[slender juniper]

Deltarune Yesterday

[cerulean sable]

SHOUTOUTS

[tame hound]

Kris dies at the end of ch3 and Ralsei smokes a blunt and Susie runs away to start a career as a politician in China

[cerulean sable]

@wheat lintel

[tidal ruin]

There's another 11, it has to be the 11th

[slender juniper]

It was so sad😭

[normal token]

Well achtually his first was just speculation from his part, the 2nd he tweeted like late march was him supposedly having insider knowledge 🤓 ☝️

[cerulean sable]

yeye

tbf

[normal token]

I do agree we should blow him up either way

[cerulean sable]

first prediction excuse was a copout

2nd one tho, hes doubling on it

[slender juniper]

Deltarune in a minute 80% chance

[lament lotus]

?

[tame hound]

Nah actual criticism for chapter 3 though I didn’t care for it. It just felt like fanservice it was too weird (no spoilers I promise)

[tidal ruin]

Should I even bother replaying the first 2 chapters atp

[tame hound]

I didn’t

[slender juniper]

If you Remember the story, it doesnt matter because ralsei dies at the end

[tidal ruin]

Sounds good to me, I'll just start ch3 tonight

[coarse leaf]

Ts might end tomorrow

[tame hound]

Go in spoiler free it’s so weird you won’t even believe it

[cerulean sable]

there is an prior past modder here who we still hang out with named 56 (he made Scarab mod loader) and we always go SHOUTOUTS whenever we see the numbers to annoy him

[tidal ruin]

Tomorrow this channel will become an on-topic, spoiler-free channel

[tame hound]

I will say one thing and thing alone, some of the characters look rotoscoped and it looks very out of place

[tidal ruin]

I'm spoiler free so far, other than hearing keyword "the knight"
No clue what that means though, so I'm good

[slender juniper]

SANS DOES THE FORTNITE DANCE IN CHAPTER 4

[tidal ruin]

YES

[tame hound]

Ok I’m done I promise

[cerulean sable]

alr scrubs delta song is cool and all but were winning SGF so yall better clean room and get to offtopicing

[coarse leaf]

Is the CH3 and CH4 just more content to play with same gameplay N mechanics, or were there improvements?

[lament lotus]

oh cool lore

[shell salmon]

Its almost the perfect time to buy an oled

[young saffron]

This is gonna be peak

[pulsar crown]

Thats legit what im playing on T-T my old one (which I bought at launch) broke/melted

[lament lotus]

wait hes a mod right?

[cerulean sable]

YIURE PEAK

[tame hound]

This man is made of copium

[slender juniper]

All the information you have by him by chapter 2 is that he creates the fountains

[cerulean sable]

he was a modding moderator prior

[lament lotus]

ah

[tidal ruin]

Forgot about that, but its okay now I remember

[normal token]

I remember 56 is he still not around for hk mods?

[pastel silo]

better finish up deltarune chapters cause you playing silksong in 1 day and 4 hours

[stuck stratus]

whats the silksong situation? We are expecting little to no news today, right?

[shell salmon]

Ye me too sw2 is too big of a handheld for me

[cerulean sable]

LISONG SILKGAIB
LISONG SILKGAIB
LISONG SILKGAIB

[young saffron]

Today? Look forward to day after tmr

[tidal ruin]

Gotta finish deltarune today before silksong steals my life away

[cerulean sable]

little? no, were expecting our side to win

[pulsar crown]

I suspect its cause they wanna be like the steam deck (Yet nintendo is like 10+ years behind)

[lament lotus]

LISONGGG SILKGAIB

[slender juniper]

Are you in schizophrenia pills?

[stuck stratus]

But isn't there the gaming events starting tmrw?

[normal token]

Our side WILL win

[dreamy relic]

LISONG SILKGAIB

[cerulean sable]

no im simply silksonfs stongest soldier

[slender juniper]

I dont understand whats going on

[tidal ruin]

I have never been more confident in the appearance of silksong at an event/string of events as I am now

[dreamy relic]

We got slopes chat!

[pastel silo]

I mean we never had the whole fucking game uploaded to steam yet

[young saffron]

Yes in a day, I was wrong

[tidal ruin]

We've also never had a release window (2023 doesn't count)

[young saffron]

Fuck it inject the hype straight into my veins

[tidal ruin]

Discard copium, we now run off hypeium

This chat is gonna blow up in about 30 hours

[dreamy relic]

or cry

[tidal ruin]

No, it will blow up

[cerulean sable]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxfqJmIZYCIZAjBeZj2Ou5Hvqk_AutsdNd?si=dsUEmonReKYmEHv8

[tidal ruin]

Because silksong will be at SGF

[full ledge]

Bloodborne pc

[tidal ruin]

That'd also be epic, been wanting to try bloodborne

[slender juniper]

Is this temothee chalamet?

[full ledge]

No matter what happens this chat will blow up it does at every event

[cerulean sable]

ye

[tidal ruin]

Sony state of play was relatively tame

Mostly because no one expected it there

[cerulean sable]

this was him prior to his role in Lies of B

[mystic pewter]

Are we more hopeful about sgf or xbox?

[cerulean sable]

SGF imo

Xbox is an SGF partner anyway

[tidal ruin]

Sgf personally

[warped rock]

steam imo

[cerulean sable]

and TC is probably console agnostic

another thing is Geoff approached them.for a world premiere TWICE back in 2018 and 2019

[dreamy relic]

but SGF is very expensive

[warped rock]

summer fest games

[cerulean sable]

SGF considers free slots for non AAA games if theyre big enough

[tidal ruin]

I think SGF mostly because

1. Leaks
2. PC and switch were their highest sellers, release date at xbox seems like targetting a slightly different audience. I could just be an idiot though

[cerulean sable]

they offer the slot for free

[dreamy relic]

oh ok didnt know

[cerulean sable]

and Geoff at this point is painfully aware of Silksong lmao

[tidal ruin]

Silksong is more anticipated than most AAA games, so I'd say its big enough
||(most wishlisted game on steam)||

[cerulean sable]

he needs that extra viewership too

top of the wishlist baby

[tidal ruin]

Silksong alone will double the viewership

[viscid wind]

I mean people will watch it even if there's none though???

[warped rock]

https://tenor.com/view/there-will-be-silksong-news-at-the-summer-games-fest-kiryu-kiryu-kazuma-crying-sobbing-gif-13800794776294677142

[pastel silo]

he said he wants to work with them once they are ready multiple times, as well as he has been checking on them regurarly

[tidal ruin]

I hope we get an actual trailer as well instead of a 5 second segment in a montage

[viscid wind]

So they'll probably place it at the very end to not lose half the viewercount 30 minutes in

[cerulean sable]

ye also TC seems ti lax and friendly when it comes to insiders

remember the one article

where a journalist expected to be super secretive

[viscid wind]

did u forget about leth's entire ninja team

[cerulean sable]

and TC was all like, casually opens the game file and the guy was losing it internally

[tidal ruin]

I'd probably watch the rest after a skong announcement if it weren't for the hype pumping me with enough adreanaline to kill a giraffe

[cerulean sable]

that too

imo 1 and a half.mimute would make me insane

[viscid wind]

THREE hour mossbag video

[tidal ruin]

What if it appears as the first announcement

[cerulean sable]

unless shadow drop

then im fucking off

[tidal ruin]

Honestly first or last announcement would be so peak
Pull a nintendo and say "Thats all for today!... Well, there's one more thing..."

[pastel silo]

I can feel shadow drop too, but the only thing holding me back from it is their plan to sort out backer keys prior to launch

unless they say fuck it, we will do it post shadowdrop

[cerulean sable]

fuck itmm dude

[pastel silo]

but with shadowdrop there will be no time to process the excitement with the community

[tidal ruin]

Surely backers would let the internet know they're receiving keys

[tidal ruin]

I think like a 3-4 day wait is suitable

[cerulean sable]

powrr move would just to give backers a key on each platform lmao

[pastel silo]

not keys just email from TC inquiring what platform they want the keys for

[cerulean sable]

cant choose if theyre just gonna give it all anyway

[full ledge]

Just saw this on Reddit I thought it was yours you lied to me

[dreamy relic]

i dont think, they have contracts

but i dont believe in a shadowdrop

[pastel silo]

but dropping Silksong at the end of summer games fest would go crazy, the marketing nuke would be huge

i mean shadowdropping

[full ledge]

Someone probably would

[tidal ruin]

If you put 100 random people under NDA, someone will break it

[opaque sigil]

backers aren't on nda

[stuck stratus]

not necessarily

[tidal ruin]

I personally would wanna process the hype first, at least for like an hour

[full ledge]

I still want them to shadow drop it on April first so no one believes it

[pastel silo]

yea seeing everybody's reaction etc

[tidal ruin]

Seeing reactions and having time to get to my pc and prepare myself for purchase

[viscid wind]

Anything but at the end wouldn't make any sense iirc

[pastel silo]

but like having the game on friday tomorrow, I mean that's worth missing out on the last squeezes of hype

[tidal ruin]

7 year wait needs preparation

[full ledge]

Have you been waiting 7 years though

[viscid wind]

It would be 3am i can't play silksomg if it shadowdrops then sorry :(

[tidal ruin]

Yeah, I said it before but I'd hit my head on the ceiling if they pulled a "Thats the end of the show!... or is it?"

[full ledge]

People be like we’ve been waiting 7 years and just beat the game yesterday

[tidal ruin]

Yes I have (close enough, its been like 6.whatever)

[viscid wind]

then valve logo shows up

[tidal ruin]

I first played hollow knight just as the silksong trailer came out

Since then I have re-beaten it at least once annually

[stuck stratus]

which sk trailer?

[stuck stratus]

cool

[tidal ruin]

The one posted 6 years ago on yt

[shell salmon]

and i said that below

[tidal ruin]

I do feel slightly jealous but I'm still not paying $450+extras for that

[viscid wind]

Of course i feel jealous, i could sell it for a shitload of cash

[smoky nebula]

There are a bunch of just awful decisions that were made like the fact that game cartridges don't even contain actual game info on them anymore

[full ledge]

Well I don’t read so this doesn’t prove anything

[shell salmon]

[full ledge]

That’s not true

[smoky nebula]

Ope
I had heard they were basically just keys to the game

[viscid wind]

The cartridge sharing thing shown in the direct is kinda stupid i think

[tidal ruin]

And their complete lack of any kind of refund system
Its standard for most online purchases, but I'm so used to steam letting you do it that not being able to refund a game that you don't like/doesn't work seems like a world-ender

[smoky nebula]

Ok apparently it's only cartridges specifically labeled "game key cards"

[full ledge]

That is an option for 3rd parties to do since it’s cheaper all first party games and some 3rd party are still on cartridge

[smoky nebula]

I did not know about this

[full ledge]

That’s not a new thing

[tidal ruin]

You could return a copy to like a game stop or something, but nintendo themselves won't issue a refund

[tidal ruin]

Its not, but it still sucks

[full ledge]

No console digital stores refunded games

[viscid wind]

Is the only thing going for switch 2 just exclusives

[tidal ruin]

I can complain about bad things even if they are old news

[full ledge]

Yes but we were in the context of new stuff so it was misleading imo

[stuck stratus]

do ppl think switch 2 is good? or just get steam deck?

[opaque sigil]

next they'll start complaining about the existence of digital game sales

[tidal ruin]

I kinda like the idea of a joycon also being a mouse, but that and exclusives are still not enough to warrant the price tags

[viscid wind]

just get a steam deck if you aren't buying it for nintendo games

[fiery burrow]

When I'm in a spreading misinformation about the switch 2 competition and my opponent is an HKmain member

[opaque sigil]

"yOu oNlY pUrChAsE a LiCeNsE"

[versed pollen]

"It's standard for online games, but I don't like this thing"
"That's standardized"
Thank you for your immaculate input

[tidal ruin]

My bad if I didn't make that clear, it is not anything new

[warped rock]

purchase a piracy liscence

[smoky nebula]

Words cannot describe how much I hate the rise of "buying isn't owning" in recent years, even outside of videogames (looking at you HP printers)

[tidal ruin]

Or pirate one

[viscid wind]

Printer industry is insane

[full ledge]

I mean switch 2 has exclusives but also idk if there’s really enough performance comparisons to say which performs better since games on the switch 2 will most likely be optimized better than steam games

[viscid wind]

You wouldn't download a download

[opaque sigil]

this is how digital media works you can't 'own' information

[smoky nebula]

Yee ik but companies exploit this in the worst possible way

[opaque sigil]

???

digital game storefronts aren't remotely exploitative it's a necessary function of how they distribute the games

they could work no other way

[tidal ruin]

That was the 2nd blow that sent me from tolerating to hating nintendo

Good games, bad company

[opaque sigil]

I know you really don't understand how anything works

[full ledge]

Yeah I’m very much pro owning stuff you buy but I don’t get this argument

[smoky nebula]

Not games
Okay so HP printers you have to have a subscription to even use the printer, even if you have ink and own the printer

[viscid wind]

I absolutely fucking hate how paying for online is a standard on consoles

[patent aspen]

i absolutely fucking hate consoles

[smoky nebula]

(newer printers I mean)

[tidal ruin]

They host their own servers i guess? Thats all I can think of
Even then, in nintendo's case, their servers aren't particularly good ||looking at smash online specifically||

[viscid wind]

Mom bought garden warfare for the xbox 360 years ago for new years and we couldn't play it because fuck xbox live gold

[fiery burrow]

might have to hop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzKqn5ehdSg

[tidal ruin]

Paying $450+extra for an online game, effectively paying about $530 and still being told you need a subscription to play it is insane

[fiery burrow]

[patent aspen]

$20 a year 🗣️

[opaque sigil]

that's not how game prices work

[viscid wind]

they do if you buy an entire console to play 1 game and nothing else for some reason

[fiery burrow]

Spending 500 bucks to get a laptop to run ultrakill and THEN 25 bucks is INSANE

Ultrakill costs 525 dollars. WTF?

[opaque sigil]

yes if you're actually insane

but nobody does that so it's just a dishonest argument

[viscid wind]

My 200$ laptop (price from 2016) runs ultrakill fine idk

[coarse leaf]

was the silksong pre order thing real

[opaque sigil]

these greedy indie devs it's not even finished

[fiery burrow]

Sorry 225 dollars

[patent aspen]

that was not the point i don't think

[viscid wind]

Uhhhh, no? My friend is planning to buy a ps5/whatever the console for gta 6

[tidal ruin]

Take out the $450 then, you pay $80 for splatoon 4 and can't play it without a subscription
Thats still kinda scummy, even if it is standard

[patent aspen]

anyway consoles are stupid and console exclusivity is stupid

[stuck stratus]

what are you talking about?

[opaque sigil]

they're probably going to play other things on it too even if the main reason they're getting it is for that

[viscid wind]

nothing of value

[patent aspen]

i love arguing on the internet for no particular reason

[opaque sigil]

major exclusives can push you over the edge but they're usually not the sole thing people use a console for

or major games in general

gta probably won't be playable on most reasonable pcs

[fiery burrow]

I have to pay for a subscription to get carried by randoms in MHGU

Really heartbreaking stuff

[full ledge]

GTA won’t be available on pc

[opaque sigil]

oh are they doing a timed exclusive thing

[tidal ruin]

The only reason I'd buy a switch 2 would be a new mainline mario/zelda 3d game
I don't think I want to buy a whole console for just that, so I'm not going to

[fiery burrow]

Galaxy 3 though

[patent aspen]

this is quite literally the entire reason nintendo consoles still exist
people buy a switch 2 to play nintendo games, because they are pretty good games that you can't get anywhere else

[fiery burrow]

Bet you'll change your tune real quick when that releases

[full ledge]

And if they can get it running on console a decent pc should be able to run it unless they don’t optimize it at all which is possible

[opaque sigil]

reading comprehension challenge failed

[fiery burrow]

I buy the switch because its a solid handheld too

If I'm going away from the house or whatever I don't have to pack my entire PC

[tidal ruin]

Tempting, but I'd settle for watching a playthrough on yt

[viscid wind]

what happened to the rog ally thing anyway, was it a scam?

wait it came out 2 years ago?

[patent aspen]

in what way

[viscid wind]

use != buy

[opaque sigil]

also just the entire topic of the conversation

[tidal ruin]

Can't wait for silksong tomorrow

[weary tapir]

Screen comparison between my switch 2 and switch 1

[fiery burrow]

Cool lion king statue

These controllers look a lot more comfortable

[tidal ruin]

Would a switch 2 make good kindling?

[patent aspen]

yeah

[stuck stratus]

can someone compare switch 2 to switch 1 OLED?

[pulsar oxide]

i have not read the past however many messages are talking about the switch 2, but i'll add my take

[tidal ruin]

I'd actually like to see this, oled is decently sized

[viscid wind]

switch 2 discussion makes me upset

😠

[opaque sigil]

welcome to garbage internet discourse

[pulsar oxide]

I think the pricing on the switch 2 itself is pretty reasonable, considering if you adjust for inflation it's only about $70 more than the switch 1. I will still not be buying it (at least for a while) because everything else is way overpriced

[tidal ruin]

My thoughts exactly

[viscid wind]

i thought the switch 1 was overpriced too

[tidal ruin]

The console itself being $450 is actually a bit lower than I'd expect, but the price of the games puts me off it

[patent aspen]

i just don't think there's any switch 2 games that would be worth buying it for rn

[pulsar crown]

don't use Inflation as a measure TBF wages havn't gone up to match, I agree its fair, but thats mostly due to them upgrading the tech

[opaque sigil]

it's a bit of both

[quiet minnow]

When do you think will Silksong release? (Realistically)

[patent aspen]

$300 is perfectly reasonable ngl

[tidal ruin]

Before june 15th

[opaque sigil]

this year

[fiery burrow]

Dec 25-31

[pulsar crown]

I'm hoping sometime next month or the month after (a holiday release would kill my funds due to Witchbrook coming out then)

[viscid wind]

june 7

[patent aspen]

0 chance

[pulsar oxide]

i say the ~$70 increase is reasonable because they claimed to have fixed nearly all of the problems with the switch 1 (except for still having no achievement system and not using discord)

[tidal ruin]

Actually, no joking, i see it coming before the 15th very likely

[fiery burrow]

not using discord 💀

[viscid wind]

i think june 21-25 is a great guess

[quiet minnow]

June 15th would be perfect for me as a birthday gift

[pulsar oxide]

june 20th

[patent aspen]

i could see news coming before the 15th, but to release it within the next 10 days would be basically a shadowdrop

[pulsar crown]

the screensharing was SO buggy even in the announcement, and the camera quality is SAAAD for the price

[tidal ruin]

I mean, the game is ready, why make us wait longer?

[viscid wind]

why so many people born during the summer god damn!!!

[pulsar oxide]

exactly

[fiery burrow]

Yeah man I'd love to argue about Silksong lore here while playing Galaxy 3

[pulsar crown]

the more expensive pirranna plant one is actually a worse quality for more money

[pulsar oxide]

my favorite pastime

[viscid wind]

god i love rationalizing irrational things

[patent aspen]

because the average person doesn't know the game is ready
if we get news like tomorrow i think it's not too unreasonable to expect a 2+ week period before it drops so it can build hype/get the news out more

[pulsar oxide]

anyways ima go play doom, goodbye

[pulsar crown]

and as I made on a comment on YT, Indie games are either Half or a quarter of the price of AAA company (like nintendo) games yet they take MORE work then the AAA since they can get the best of the best (the most expensive indie game I own is Spiritfarer and its 30$ for almost 200 Hours of playtime and has an amazing demo) T-T Nintendo doesn't need to be doin this

[opaque sigil]

they really don't take more work

[wary storm]

3 days

[tidal ruin]

I don't think anyone is going to need 2+ weeks to figure out its being released, most everyone thats been waiting at all will know within the first hour

The marketing does itself for this game, a 2+ week wait wouldn't hurt but I don't see a need for it

[pulsar crown]

Its the same amount of work but its not as spread out

[opaque sigil]

it's usually considerably less work spread out over fewer people

[pulsar crown]

have you seen the Hollowknight 1.0.0.1 release?

[patent aspen]

everyone that's been waiting at all
yeah my point was that there's an entire group of people that aren't those people

[tidal ruin]

And the 2 week wait isn't going to get them any more invested

[fiery burrow]

The size of games vary so wildly that generalizing them by Indie and AAA is stupid

[patent aspen]

it will for some people

[tidal ruin]

Maybe like 10 total

[pulsar crown]

Fair, then we compare similar games?

[patent aspen]

me when i make up numbers for fun

[pulsar crown]

Plus we all forget, terraria is Indie

[fiery burrow]

Terraria is bad so I elect to ignore it

[pulsar crown]

How is it bad?

[fiery burrow]

Use Stardew instead

[tidal ruin]

The hype around this game is already way too massive to worry about having to delay it for more marketing, the game will already make them millions day 1

[fiery burrow]

It lacks good qualities

[pulsar crown]

Explain

[fiery burrow]

Combat sucks

[pulsar crown]

What class did you use?

[torn kayak]

Terraria's crafting recipies are really hard to keep up with ngl

[fiery burrow]

Art direction is subpar

[torn kayak]

It's not bad though.

[fiery burrow]

I don't limit myself to one class because the game never incentivizes that

[viscid wind]

terraria is mid at most

[pulsar crown]

Its a style, pixel art

[torn kayak]

yeah just, mid

[fiery burrow]

And compared to actually good looking games like Hyper Light Drifter or Celeste its ugly

[tidal ruin]

Yeah sorry, let me go to the future and figure out exactly how many people would buy it when comparing release dates
What am I supposed to do?

[viscid wind]

subjective

[pulsar crown]

This is sounding like Terraria isn't a game for you, not bad

[fiery burrow]

Heck the Super Mario Bros remaster from the 90s looks better

[tidal ruin]

Me when I lie

[pulsar crown]

Art is subjective

[mossy sail]

It goes both ways tho..a shadowdrop after a big reveal capitalizes on the hype inmediately...some viewers seeing Silksong for the first time could forget about it until launch, a shadowdrop gives them a chance to check the game out right away...for such anticipated gsme as Silksong, the hype would spread far even with shadowdrop...the articles would go wild

[fiery burrow]

Captain Obvious

[viscid wind]

mfs will say thing is bad and then list reasons they dont like it

[pulsar crown]

So you agree, yet your using it as an argument to say the game is bad?

[fiery burrow]

I'm giving my subjective opinion which you should've been clued in on when I brought out the word "bad"

[tidal ruin]

Don't play terraria, hate it, even despise it
But saying it lacks good qualities is an objective statement applied to a subjective topic

[fiery burrow]

Good and bad are subjective

Its a matter of taste

[opaque sigil]

wiki game 🥱

[pulsar crown]

so the people who don't like how Hollowknight plays/looks makes the game bad?

[patent aspen]

assuming it's shown in summer games fest that's like hundreds of thousands of people that'll see the game
there will be plenty of people who haven't even heard of it, and plenty of people that will plan to buy the game because of the showcase
anyone who's been hanging on every word from team cherry is buying the game regardless of if it shadowdrops or if it releases 4 damn months afterwards

[torn kayak]

fr.

[fiery burrow]

HK is also bad

[torn kayak]

wiki game is a good term lmao

[pulsar crown]

Then why are you here?

[fiery burrow]

Do you not understand how subjectivity works

[wary storm]

2/10 ragebait

[fiery burrow]

Whats good to me is different to you

This also applies to HK and any work of art

[pulsar crown]

Yes, but saying a game is bad is saying something is wrong with it on a non-subjective level

[fiery burrow]

No its not that makes no sense

[tidal ruin]

Yeah, I see your point, and I don't see how a 3 day wait is gonna hurt compared to a 2 week
Though I guess it doesn't really matter, it'll release when it releases and arguing about it won't change it

[viscid wind]

good and bad is objective i dont like it and i like it are subjective

[fiery burrow]

"Saying Chocolate Icecream is bad is saying something is wrong with it on a non-subjective level"

[viscid wind]

yes

[pulsar crown]

yes? thats how that word wokrs?

[fiery burrow]

Qualitative terms are subjective

[viscid wind]

it's bad because it contains a lot of sugar?

[fiery burrow]

I didn't say unhealthy

I said bad. As in bad tasting

[opaque sigil]

qualitative words in domains where the means of evaluation are subjective are inherently subjective

[pulsar crown]

Terraria isn't a game for you, its not a bad game if it was, would there be a thriving community?

[opaque sigil]

yes people play bad games all the time

[heady iron]

A lot of things are subjective, just none of my opinions are

[viscid wind]

Well if you said bad taste then it would clearly be a different case since taste is subjective

[fiery burrow]

I didn't say people didn't enjoy Terraria

[brittle garnet]

Good and bad are subjective

[fiery burrow]

I said it was bad.

[patent aspen]

it's going to be like front page of every video game store regardless, anyone who forgets about it will go "oh hey it's this game i saw a couple weeks ago" and check it out

[opaque sigil]

hell fucking destiny still has a playerbase and I've never seen a destiny fan who said the game wasn't currently ass

[pulsar crown]

Again, your saying its bad, not that isn't not your kinda of game which again means, something is wrong, what is wrong? yes its a wiki/vetern game but some people enjoy that

[fiery burrow]

And how does this apply to video games. There isn't a video game that's objectively bad for your health

[mossy sail]

Yes thats why I said for such anticipated game as silksong it goes both ways, and its hard to calculate which choice would bring in more hype

[fiery burrow]

Its a complete matter of personal taste IE subjective

[opaque sigil]

blue prince but you should play it anyways

[fiery burrow]

The amount of Terraria fans who say that the game is objectively good is hysterical this isn't even the first time I've had this discussion in this server

[pulsar crown]

Then don't say its bad, again, saying something bad is a non-subjective word in this context, you just say you don't like it

[tidal ruin]

Name someone here who has stated the game is objectively good during this discussion

[fiery burrow]

I don't like it because its not fun IE bad

[pulsar crown]

How is it not fun?

[fiery burrow]

What objective quality can you measure in a game

[fiery burrow]

Its boring

[pulsar crown]

To you

[fiery burrow]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

that is how subjectivity works

[fiery burrow]

You really don't understand how subjectivity works

[viscid wind]

optimization

[pulsar crown]

thats not bad, thats just you not enjoying the game

[fiery burrow]

Which makes it bad

[opaque sigil]

yes it is bad if you don't enjoy it

[tidal ruin]

Still waiting on this

[viscid wind]

accessibility

[fiery burrow]

My favorite game of 2025 is unoptimized garbage

[opaque sigil]

what is it

[brittle garnet]

Those things are also subject to what they are optimized/accessible for

[pulsar crown]

ok, Fireb0rn legit had something similar, go watch his reaction to negative steam reviews of HK

[fiery burrow]

Monster Hunter Wilds

FIREB0RN?

[pulsar crown]

YES

[fiery burrow]

Crazy

[opaque sigil]

surely a youtuber's opinion matters

[fiery burrow]

Citing fireb0rn for how subjectivity works

[pulsar crown]

ok one moment

[opaque sigil]

they don't let just anybody make a youtube channel

[coral prawn]

who?

[fiery burrow]

My parameters for a game being good vs bad is fun vs unfun, they might be different for you which is fine that's how subjectivity works

[pulsar crown]

The quality is there, what standerd is low? yours?
Were getting what we were promised in the game

[fiery burrow]

The quality isn't there

[pulsar crown]

Then what is quality to you?

[serene chasm]

Only mine do

[fiery burrow]

Fun vs Unfun

Pleasing to look at vs Ugly

[opaque sigil]

for one reading is hard isn't it and for another you don't know what definitions are

[pulsar crown]

Thats subjective

[fiery burrow]

Yes

[pulsar crown]

it's not a fact

[fiery burrow]

I didn't say terraria was objectively a bad game

[cerulean sable]

come on TC

make your next move

[pulsar crown]

you made it seem like you were saying that

[fiery burrow]

I said it was my subjective opinion multiple times

[cerulean sable]

i am literally just passing time

[fiery burrow]

You need to read the messages to understand what I'm saying dude

[pulsar crown]

then again, not your kind of game

[opaque sigil]

I love repeatedly clarifying things and people just ignore it

[cerulean sable]

terraria movement cringe but.otherwise its good

[fiery burrow]

It isn't my kind of game therefore I called it bad because I didn't find it fun

[frozen frigate]

me and bro

[fiery burrow]

What's hard to understand

[pulsar crown]

but its not a BAD game

[torn kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-privileges-revoked-horse-privileges-revoked-helicopter-gif-23555719

[fiery burrow]

In your opinion

In my opinion it is

[pulsar crown]

even if the game itself isnt the best it brought Indie games to light before Stardew

[patent aspen]

terraria was good for 1 playthrough but then i had trouble doing another just because the early game is so slow and boring

[fiery burrow]

Stay on topic

[mossy sail]

I miss a rogue class in terraria...throwing damage is close but doesnt extend to hardmode

[tame hound]

Guys the game showcase just got leaked on Twitter and silksong is on it open Twitter…

[pulsar crown]

Link it?

[fiery burrow]

OK quartzo

[patent aspen]

shut

[wheat imp]

to your eternity finally ended it seems

[torn kayak]

I sense silkpost

[tame hound]

Maybe…

[frozen frigate]

am i insane

did they change the scene in iron man 2 where tony stark meets elon musk

[tame hound]

No it definitely is still there

[torn kayak]

Yeah they patched it

[fiery burrow]

The what

[tame hound]

And Donald trump is in the background

[patent aspen]

patching movies 😭

[tidal ruin]

Beenaid

[torn kayak]

(trust)

[frozen frigate]

i swear to god they changed it

[fiery burrow]

Can they change the trump home alone 2 scene 🙏

[solid swift]

Im so anxious about this week. Im legitimately scared it wont show up in any showcases :(

[frozen frigate]

they did change it

of course they did

[torn kayak]

huh?

Are you that invested

[mossy sail]

Dont worry, its gonna happen

[wheat lintel]

true

[solid swift]

Nah i have adhd rn i have this hollow knight phase im replaying it

[patent aspen]

idk it probably will

[solid swift]

About to beat final boss

[torn kayak]

ABS RAD?

[solid swift]

Nah just regular radiance for now

[patent aspen]

but like if it doesn't then there's always just TC randomly announcing it themselves

[tidal ruin]

The chances it doesn't show are slim, I expect it this month at the least

[solid swift]

Ngl its crazy that all these years it was the opposite: chances of appearing anywhere slim and every summer game fest Geoff said silksong will not show up

[patent aspen]

do yall think it'll be at SGF or xbox showcase

[mossy sail]

Sgf 100%

No reason to show at xbox instead

[patent aspen]

i mean no reason to show up at SGF over xbox either is there

[solid swift]

It can be either. I have a feeling it might be Xbox bc it showed before and maybe they wanna redeem themselves

[mossy sail]

Its coming out on all llatforms, why show it 2 days later on console specific one

[tidal ruin]

Xbox has shown to have higher view times, so there's that
Though I don't think that alone would stop tc

[solid swift]

Honestly its up to TC. Perhaps microsoft and geoff are fighting over it

[patent aspen]

showing at a console specific showcase doesn't mean it isn't coming to all consoles/platforms

[solid swift]

They know this game will break the internet

[mossy sail]

Leth expressed desire to work eith geoff in the past, as did geoff for TC

[tidal ruin]

There's also the entirely real possibility its just at both

[patent aspen]

that would go hard

[mossy sail]

Also the only reason silksong had a trailer at xbox was to reveal xbox port and gamepass dsy one launch specifically

[solid swift]

Every year Geoff deconfirms Silksong appearing but this year he hasn't

[whole knoll]

is the xbox today?

[patent aspen]

i thought that was just 1 year

[cerulean sable]

SGF

[mossy sail]

But you have a huge general gaming event 2 days earlier, why hold it for xbox oriented one

[tidal ruin]

Saying they have to fight over it isn't really accurate, it can show up at both of them
Honestly it is just objectively the best thing to do, assuming they're ready for releass

[opaque sigil]

it was that's not a normal thing he does

[solid swift]

Isnt the game uploaded to steam already?

[opaque sigil]

and that was just because he was specifically asked in an ama or something

[mossy sail]

He did it 3 times I think, but only after being asked about it on stream

[solid swift]

But we cant aee it ofc

[mossy sail]

Not proactively

[ashen hearth]

Today might be the final day....

[patent aspen]

more viewers + it being "general gaming" isn't necessarily a pull for them

[tidal ruin]

To our best knowledge yes
(I am unsure if its 100% confirmed or just heavily implied)

[mossy sail]

If its on sgf then it will be on both

[fiery burrow]

Game was uploaded to steam in 2019

[tidal ruin]

SGF wont even necessarily have more viewers

[patent aspen]

regardless it doesn't particularly matter where it's announced
if it even is announced lmao we still don't know

[mossy sail]

No reason to skip sgf for tc, would lose on traction ...when they can have both

[patent aspen]

i mean don't you have to pay for a spot in either

[mossy sail]

No you dont if you aint AAA

[tidal ruin]

Geoff might know the silksong release date right now

[somber horizon]

can someone help with failed champoin'

im with only shaman stone and mark of pride

[mossy sail]

There are free slots for non-AAA games at sgf

[tidal ruin]

Weaversong+grimmkin and hold crystal dash in a top corner

[patent aspen]

huh you're right

[whole knoll]

a non cheese way

[patent aspen]

spreading factual information on the internet

[tidal ruin]

Silksong would definitely get a free spot anyways

[uneven harbor]

WHAT THE SHADOW DROP

[tidal ruin]

It may as well be AAA (not literally) with how anticipated it is

[mossy sail]

Silksong shadowdropping would break the internet

[whole knoll]

imagine

[patent aspen]

it'd also be stupid

[mossy sail]

Not really for such anticipated game it can be beneficial

Immediate harvest of hype

[tidal ruin]

Id prefer for it to not be shadow dropped

it

[patent aspen]

shut

[somber horizon]

whats waver song

[patent aspen]

as opposed to building even more hype

[tidal ruin]

Charm in spooky place

[somber horizon]

uhhh

[patent aspen]

i could see like shadow dropping it after a showcase, that would be understandable if not entirely optimal
shadowdropping literally out of nowhere would be asinine

[mossy sail]

Such a huge game shadowdropping builds a lot of hype by itself, you cannot say for sure if having time inbetween would benefit it more or not ...impossible to say in this case, there are benefits to both

[tidal ruin]

#hk-help will probably help a lot more than I will

[somber horizon]

i got 2 charms only and i beat nightmare kibd

king

[lone crown]

@opaque sigil Another problem addressed

[patent aspen]

no, lmao
shadowdropping after a showcase is just inherently going to result in more sales than shadowdropping randomly on like twitter dot com

[mossy sail]

What? I am talking about shadowdropping after showcase tho

I thought we are talking about shadowdropping vs release date announcement with waiting gap

[viscid wind]

I can't wait for sgf

I'm trying so hard to distract myself trying to make time go faster

[patent aspen]

i read this and just assumed you meant randomly lol

[tidal ruin]

Unfortunately we have to
For another 28.5 hours

[patent aspen]

me omw to sleep for 28.5 hours straight

[viscid wind]

I have to wait the entire of tomorrow too :<<<<<

[lone crown]

Silksong releasing immediately after an announcement would also suck for people not in the know who dont want spoilers

[opaque sigil]

Nice

Fortunately that was only an issue with revenant but it some people might not be comfortable doing other objectives solo

And I have seen other people’s objectives in normal matchmaking so idk why revenant specifically was such an issue

[tidal ruin]

Itd also allow people to free up their day in advance, like cancelling plans with friends or taking the day off w*rk

[patent aspen]

there's also the thing where like some people don't have $20-30 to drop at any given time
if silksong shadowdrops tomorrow i would be absolutely pissed

[velvet sentinel]

Same

[white sail]

Removed discord slowmode on #sk-discussion.

[lone crown]

Given TC’s attitude about pricing i dont think it’ll be 30 dollars but I hate price discussion anyway so i wont start that

[tidal ruin]

Thank you Zal

[viscid wind]

This isn't a great idea

[full rune]

i forgor

[opaque sigil]

Oh also fool I got into the dlc area, rellana is fucking me up

[velvet sentinel]

Apart from that a silksong shadow drop would annihilate this server

[lone crown]

Whats your scadu frag level

[viscid wind]

Server wide lockdown

[lone crown]

Is that the first dlc boss you’ve found

[full rune]

oh itll be back tomorrow

[opaque sigil]

3 or 4 I think

[tidal ruin]

Its a time passing discussion to have
Anyways, $300 minimum

[opaque sigil]

No I killed the lion

[mossy sail]

But friday is the ideal day for a shadowdrop

[opaque sigil]

Lion was easy

[viscid wind]

Thank you zal

[lone crown]

Nice

[velvet sentinel]

We almost got GTA VI before silksong

[tidal ruin]

Kinda but only for some people

[full rune]

just a heads up with all the influx of events expect it to get turned off / on quite frequently, along with image permissions

[patent aspen]

i joked that i would like avoid all social media for 2 weeks when deltarune released
i am actually going to be doing that for silksong

[barren sequoia]

I hope silksong isnt shown hella late in the showcase

It starts at 2pm for me so like a 3 or 4 showtime would be nice

[opaque sigil]

Rellana reminds me of malenia a bit the way she’ll jump behind you and dodge spells I like it, got her like 2/3 down once on a run where I got some comet azurs in

[viscid wind]

I mean it would make a lot of sense

[mossy sail]

I'd say its for majority of gamers ... both students and workers have more likely free time on weekends

[lone crown]

Btw the dlc has many ways to do boss order, theres a route to skip rellana, the dlc only has two mandatory boss fights to reach the final one

[opaque sigil]

I want to do rellana she’s fun

[tidal ruin]

I hope its the last announcement, the brief disappointment of "That's all for today!" Would perfectly conpliment the "Except for one more thing..."

[lone crown]

But yeah rellana is typically the second boss people figjt

[patent aspen]

silksong would be a banger "one more thing" lmao

[slender juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-strange-doctor-depression-lonely-alone-gif-22077029

[viscid wind]

they'd probably leave it for

[slender juniper]

Silksong fans if silksong isnt shown in the Xbox showcase:

[viscid wind]

half life 3 or some shit

[barren sequoia]

Oh dude ive been mixing up sgf and the game awards all week

[tidal ruin]

Probably yeah, but I can dream

[viscid wind]

True it would be funny

[vagrant onyx]

I prepared my mind to expect SS by dec 31st

[patent aspen]

we've had much less hyped games as the "one last thing" at both SGF and the game awards definitely

[viscid wind]

There isn't one more hyped game in the world than half life 3

[tidal ruin]

Im thinking back to the smash 5 reveal and how hype that was

[slender juniper]

Whats half life

[barren sequoia]

Fortnite 2

[velvet sentinel]

I mean that's what happened last year aswell

[patent aspen]

ok but that doesn't exist

[viscid wind]

I don't know

[patent aspen]

wrong message dammit

[mossy sail]

How long is sgf opening show?

[velvet sentinel]

Wouldn't be the first time the release window gets broken

[patent aspen]

ok but that doesn't exist

[slender juniper]

Chcken jockey super smash bros reveal

[viscid wind]

Yeah because it's called half life x

[tidal ruin]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[barren sequoia]

Geoff shouldn't even announce it

Geoff should just eat a bag of cherries on stage

[full rune]

half life 4:

[patent aspen]

silksong provably exists and is like probably close to releasing

[viscid wind]

no actually tc only started work on it a couple days ago

[coarse leaf]

Rumor has it Arcsys will be making the Silksong fighting game

[viscid wind]

Rumor has it Silksong Live Action Movie

[cerulean sable]

ZAL PLS
play Warno with me

we can 2v2 at Kriede
You can main 2nd Panzergrens and I can play 11e Parachutiste or 82nd Airborne

[tidal ruin]

The past 7 years were spend trying to find cool numbers to change depots to

[patent aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[full rune]

consider the following:

192 ping

[velvet sentinel]

Rumors have it silksong will have a battle pass, be always online and 200gb

[patent aspen]

only 200gb? wowee!

[slender juniper]

I take this over no silksong

[coarse leaf]

Switch 2 is outdated, TC need to wait for Switch 3 drop to release

[full rune]

western dev has been here

[cerulean sable]

ornu wanna play PACT you can take 4th Motostrelka Schutzen and i can play Korpus Desantino instead and camp trees

oh ok

[viscid wind]

Oh god I'd have to free up space for silksong probably

[barren sequoia]

I hope silksong has like a billion bugs so team cherry is forever forced to work on it

[viscid wind]

Is Australia west

[cerulean sable]

but consider it ok pleading

[barren sequoia]

They shan't be free from silksong

[full rune]

everything is west if you keep going westward

[viscid wind]

I mean over 150 bugs are confirmed

[patent aspen]

you don't have to buy a battlepass, i have an internet connection, and i'll delete every game on my pc for silksong
sounds perfect to me

[tidal ruin]

Australia is west of itself

[barren sequoia]

Why does hornet and the knight not use hammers if we're fighting bugs

[mortal bluff]

Silksong… tomorrow..?

[barren sequoia]

You squash bugs with a hammer

[viscid wind]

Somehow

[barren sequoia]

Everyone knows this

Bugs and rats

[slender juniper]

I hope silksong never releases so Team cherry will pass on their work on their off springs

[full rune]

speaking of westward, rip westwood

[viscid wind]

You put them in a cup and take them outside

[cerulean sable]

they need 2 revibe Generals 2

[barren sequoia]

Nuh uh you hit them to death with a hammer and do a little jig

[cerulean sable]

revive

[ashen hearth]

Today might actually be the last Daily Silksong News....

[barren sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/lancer-breakdance-lancer-lancer-deltarune-deltarune-delta-rune-gif-12991294656648990087

[mortal bluff]

Deltarune… tomorrow..?

[viscid wind]

What? No

[tribal hamlet]

i swear if silksong doesnt release i WONT play it

[slender juniper]

Deltarune Yesterday

[tidal ruin]

No definitely not, itll continue to release at least

[full rune]

truer words have never been said

[barren sequoia]

Well I doubt it's releasing tomorrow

Daily silksong news will change though

To be an actual countdown

[viscid wind]

A no tonight and a yes tomorrow IF it releases

AT LEAST

[tidal ruin]

I could see ara continuing DSN to news about things like mods/speedruns

[viscid wind]

Though i think we won't see ari or william on the showcase in person

[patent aspen]

there'll be daily silksong news until it releases and it is definitely not releasing tomorrow...

[tidal ruin]

I could also see him taking a break too, doing that for 6 years must not be easy

[lone crown]

They do not feel like the stage kind of people, most we’ve ever seen them directly involved in something was when they were showing the Godmaster update in Treehouse

[viscid wind]

steamdb updates are on australian work hours so

[patent aspen]

think he's said it'll just stop most likely

[barren sequoia]

I doubt they'd appear, going to the states just for a showcase must be awful

[tidal ruin]

What is y'alls prediction on the wr speedrun a year after release

[patent aspen]

keeping DSN going past when it releases imo is like. why

[cerulean sable]

i will make a DSSN PMC once this is all over

[mossy sail]

Most viewers would not care about indie devs yapping during the main event showcase...only us the biggest fans

[viscid wind]

Oh i forgot the entire thing

[normal token]

They went to america for godmaster and decided to not ever go back to america

[patent aspen]

can't possibly predict lol, we don't know how much game there is

[viscid wind]

Longer than hollow knight's probably

[bitter marlin]

sub 2 hours

[ashen hearth]

Besides Silksong I could see Jet Set Radio at SGF

[patent aspen]

random guess, like 1:45:00 any%

[tidal ruin]

You can still predict, you just have to accept that you may not be correct

[viscid wind]

Random guess people haven't finished silksong playthroughs so no speedruns are ran yet

[mossy sail]

I am so glad i wasnt born as a speedrunner...i plan to spend an hour at least in the first moss grotto area just to chill and process

[velvet sentinel]

Silksong is one of the most anticipated games rn. It's pretty mainstream

[patent aspen]

it's less a prediction and more a 100% random guess

[viscid wind]

Silk mode sounds like such a shitposty title

[tidal ruin]

Those are the best kinds of predictions

[mossy sail]

Yea but most people, even a lot of fans dont even know members of tc, we are a small tiny part of the large gaming community

[cerulean sable]

i just wish the most popular route in silksong has more involved bosses

afaik the only main wall is Watchers

[patent aspen]

any% could just be like 20 minutes for all we know ngl

[bitter marlin]

bro silksong is like the most wishlisted game on steam rn

[opaque sigil]

Well, it’s limited by what’s necessary

[viscid wind]

Silksong, not ari gibson and william pellen

[opaque sigil]

I wouldn’t be surprised if lace 2 is necessary

[viscid wind]

smh

[cerulean sable]

correction

most wishlisted steam game for thr past 5 years feelspkman

[velvet sentinel]

I hope silksong will have atleast one insanely soulcrushingly difficult boss

[tidal ruin]

I can see it between that and like 1.5 hours

[patent aspen]

wait yall don't have ari gibson on your wishlist??

[viscid wind]

Correction: two-sided nest

[bitter marlin]

i need it to be harder then all of P5

[viscid wind]

I do but it's not the most popular

[viscid wind]

P5 isn't difficult exactly

[velvet sentinel]

Is pale court difficult?

[viscid wind]

Oh so fucking much yes it is

[tidal ruin]

I would say so, yeah

[velvet sentinel]

Alright I will play it

[jade canopy]

Thk is a huge wall on current patch, 1221 thk is much easier

[tidal ruin]

Took me about like 3 hours to beat all the bosses

[mossy sail]

So what? You are too clouded by your perspective...the amount of HK fans who know who tc members are is small, most gamers just play the game without inquiring further

[viscid wind]

All of them are harder than any vanilla ones imo

[viscid wind]

WHAT

[cerulean sable]

ye ofc i get thatzl, thats the point of SRs

just that, medium core bosses that for regular route would be neat

TE is cool bexause it shoecases a lot of good bosses BUT it takes a long time

[tidal ruin]

Thats not in a row, and not including ascended/radiant

[viscid wind]

Iyt took me 6 hours to give up on isma after making 0 progress

[jade canopy]

The main thing stopping speedruns from having hard bosses is just that bosses in hk are not hard
Like in the main game, the only hard bosses are like, wk, hornet 2 and traitor lord ig ? All the rest is heavily optional or located in dlc’s

[opaque sigil]

Well the essence grind is to blame for that (genuinely fuck the essence grind the te is gated so unintuitively)

[jade canopy]

Like base game hollow knight, just doesn’t have hard bosses

[cedar trench]

traitor lord hard?

[tidal ruin]

Most of the bosses are hard, just learning them makes them easy

[cedar trench]

are we playing the same game

[cerulean sable]

he has a point, 85% of the fandom prob isnt aware of the entire TC """controversy"""

[cedar trench]

guys i don't enjoy music anymore

[velvet sentinel]

Is it like bullshit animation hard or difficult hard

[cerulean sable]

id put it on 90 actually

[velvet sentinel]

What controversy

[patent aspen]

if silksong ddoesn't have something harder than r5ab i will lose it

[cerulean sable]

comms

[viscid wind]

The fight sfx feel terrible hard

[velvet sentinel]

What

[cerulean sable]

the usual

[jade canopy]

Pale court is really fun
The bosses are balanced to be playable and not too hard, usually set to be around pure vessel level for the first bosses

[viscid wind]

Glass soul

[opaque sigil]

Whining about nothing

[sage umbra]

Controversy where

[jade canopy]

They take some time to learn

[patent aspen]

if they add that it might be harder

[viscid wind]

I absolutely hated the mod i can't agree sorry

[velvet sentinel]

Alright I will play it. Have to warm up tho haven't played in a year

[patent aspen]

steels soul if you couldn't cheese it

[bitter marlin]

i think yall are focusing on the wrong thing, being hard doesnt rlly matter being fun does

[jade canopy]

Probably yeah
It takes getting used to

[cerulean sable]

COMMUNICATION

aka "TC lost their fanbases trust and its going to hurt them" people when in fact the majority does not even care outside of seeing memes

[velvet sentinel]

Thx

[viscid wind]

Being too easy makes it unfun too though

[opaque sigil]

The things they would need to do to make steel soul not cheesable would be miserable

[tidal ruin]

If you want my opinion, corrupted kin is the best modded boss

[patent aspen]

fun is the priority but hard postgame content is were 99% of my hollow knight playtime comes from

[jade canopy]

Make the game still runs when the game is paused
That would solve the issue dark souls style

It would also absolutely create a shit ton of glitches to exploit in speedruns

[tidal ruin]

I get more fun from difficulty, as long as that difficulty isnt absrad

[patent aspen]

1. you can only save and quit at a bench
   ggs

[bitter marlin]

yeah but, everyone is talking about "i want a boss harder then absrad" when i really dont because i dont find absrad fun

[viscid wind]

My ass is hard wired against green fights I can't explain

[normal token]

One thing I hope silk soul does is spice up enemies/bosses with new attacks and not just lame more damage etc

[tidal ruin]

I find absrad unfun because of her design, her difficulty is just fine imo

[opaque sigil]

That would suck

That’s the miserable thing

[patent aspen]

how

[jade canopy]

That is what separates PC from most modded bosses of hk
Because they do aim at not making stupid hard bosses for the sake of it

[patent aspen]

it just means you can't save and quit to cheese your way out of imminent death

[jade canopy]

Quiting out is just fun
Makes you explore faster

[opaque sigil]

It means you can’t quit the game whenever you need to sometimes people have to do things

[bitter marlin]

TEAM CHERRY MORE PROJECTILE SPAM PLEASE

[patent aspen]

should clarify that this should only apply to silk soul mode lmao

[opaque sigil]

That would be bad

[mossy sail]

Judging by everything we know, most silksong bosses will for sure be much more "involved" just by the nature of Hornet having more complex and agile moveset

[opaque sigil]

Silk soul mode being permadeath would be dogshit anyways

[tidal ruin]

1. Alt+f4 would bypass that
2. You have to be at a bench, so if you feel like getting off you have to find one first

[viscid wind]

ill kill someone if silk soul is steel soul

[jade canopy]

The solution to avoid cheese is to make pausing not pause the game
So you die if you try to quit out
Basically make quit out act like a dreamgate, force you to be unmoving for a few seconds

[void skiff]

i assume thats what its gonna be, i do find it interesting that it apparently isn’t like steel soul

[patent aspen]

is that not just what it is

[opaque sigil]

It’s not

[void skiff]

Maybe silksong will have both silk and steel soul

[tidal ruin]

I hope not

[viscid wind]

No? Didn't team cherry say steel soul was lazy somewhere

[opaque sigil]

The solution is to just leave the cheese because it doesn’t matter

[jade canopy]

They said specifically it was more than what steel soul was
We don’t really know what it is though

[opaque sigil]

It’s not worth fixing

[jade canopy]

Totally
I just said that if you had to fixed it, that would probably be the best way to go about it

[opaque sigil]

Also this would be so so so much worse by far the worst way to approach it

[ashen hearth]

Imagine TC went the extra mile with Silk Soul and the game mode is just a remixed version of the entire map

[opaque sigil]

“No you can’t pause”

[bitter marlin]

HELL NO

[tidal ruin]

The addition of permadeath wouldn't hurt, as long as it isn't the only option for increased difficulty

[void skiff]

I think what would be cool would be various extra difficulties that work like the pantheon bindings

[bitter marlin]

IF I NEED TO PAUSE TO DO SOMETHING I BETTER BE ABLE TO PAUSE

[opaque sigil]

Built in permadeath is superfluous anyways

[tidal ruin]

Can I have a definition I don't feel like opening google

[opaque sigil]

Unnecessary

[viscid wind]

nerdtammo

[trim estuary]

Silksoul better be Terraria expert mode

[viscid wind]

Minus the exclusive stuff

[tidal ruin]

This I want this
Terraria expert mode is so gas

[bitter marlin]

so like 2x boss hp

[viscid wind]

is in stars and time good?

[bitter marlin]

and increase enemy dmaage

[trim estuary]

I meant the unique AI and unique OP rewards

[opaque sigil]

I’ve been meaning to play that

[trim estuary]

I’m only on Act 3 but yeah

[tidal ruin]

Slight stat buffs + changes to AI

[bitter marlin]

i dont like unique rewards

[viscid wind]

my friend who i disagree with often says siffrin is so me often

[trim estuary]

Uhhh

[patent aspen]

unique rewards for playing on a harder difficulty would be cool idk

[trim estuary]

Skill issue ig

[viscid wind]

Yeah i don't think tools should be locked to a separate gamemode

[tidal ruin]

I don't think unique rewards are necessary, a ng+ is already good

[opaque sigil]

ng+ doesn’t work in a metroidvania but also probably isn’t what silk soul is so

[bitter marlin]

it doesnt work for silksong

it works for terraria but it wont work for silksong

[void skiff]

Extra lore

[trim estuary]

I don’t mean unique rewards (well I guess I do)/new tools, I mean tools and stuff are buffed in interesting ways to compensate for the buffed enemies

[tidal ruin]

It can work, but imo in most cases giving the player things to make the hard mode easier defeats the point
I wish expert mode drops in terraria were included in normal mode because shield of cthulhu just makes the game straight up easier

[void skiff]

Bonus NPC who follows you about

would be cool

[cedar trench]

silk soul is probably what master mode is to botw

harder enemies

more enemies

more bullshit

[bitter marlin]

MASTER MODE MENTIONED

[patent aspen]

yea not like, tools and stuff
more like lore or cosmetics or a new title theme for beating the mode lol

[bitter marlin]

I LOVE MASTER MODE!?!

!!!

[tidal ruin]

Thats what I'm imagining for silksoul, something like master mode

[lilac moss]

Hey 👋 . Any new news

[patent aspen]

what does master mode do i haven't played it

[trim estuary]

No

[cedar trench]

master mode is so funny because once you're out of the earlygame (best part of botw hands down) it kind of equalizes itself out

[bitter marlin]

tomorrow....

[trim estuary]

Golden lynel I think

[tidal ruin]

That is yes, though I wouldn't need that incentive personally

[lilac moss]

Alrighty

[lilac moss]

For Shaw

[trim estuary]

Check back tomorrow

[lilac moss]

Thanks for the replies