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Little big planet
Peak peak peakpeak
Oh I know that one
It’s the one with the little big planet
Now send bye chat with this in reverse
Perfect
also the belting is so unintuitive
Oh and here’s one that’s fun @carmine island
In shapez 1 you just click and drag while holding shift
Are you using keybinds or are you clicking individual belts until they do what you want them to do
dragging in straight lines and rotating by pressing r on every turn
Interesting
i'm factoriopilled
I’ve heard enough tbh. Uninstall and play shapez 1
If the music sucks then that’s enough of a reason
Shapez one music is actually godlike
oh shit i can just drag and it turns automatically
Pfft
The standout thing of shapez for me is that unlike literally ever other fucking factory game, you can make literally anything you wanna make extremely quickly
Copy pasting is given to you later specifically because you can do a lot very quickly, (and also you should experiment with modules first)
And then satisfactory would still have you hand mining copper or whatever
Literally look across the hole
You can also throw shapes on the second floor if you need to deliver faster
i swear to god they werent there 5 minutes ago
“I’m idling”
YOUR FACTORY ISNT BIG ENOUGH
DEAL MORE **DAMAGE TO THE ENVIRONMENT **
COVER THE WORLD IN STEEEEL
TRUE
This is as far as I can go tbh. Haven’t played shapez 2 cause shapes 1 is peak
STEEEEEELLLL SOOOUUULLL MO-
wait I just made a hollow knight reference
Whoopers
It’s everything good about factory games distilled into a no bs open source and fantastic factory puzzle game. Also the music is a bop
did you mean shapez
But... resting grounds has flower quest 🥺
Well... it's memorable
I remember my worst bout of indigestion too
I'll be completely honest Kingdom's Edge and The Hive deserve either second lowest or lowest tier
I am a certified hive hater
Hive is a sub area
And Kingdom's Edge is fucking primal aspid HELL
Still issue
They die to every source of burst damage you have. Ranged or otherwise
bro it doesnt matter
You also hitless them by not running at them as fast as you can
They fucking suck
Charging a dude with a shotgun is meant to suck
they’re awesome
Ngl I agree with the list mostly except i'd put forgotten crossroads 1 tier lower and resting grounds 1 higher
Also KE is peak
yaaay primal aspids good job funny bugs
my brain cannot comprehend this
The purpose and theme of the area is fine. Crossroads is awesome because it gets infected. It serves a dual purpose as an area
What redditors complain and post about in the moment or for the meme usually isn’t reality
hm?
Yeah but the game is slightly boring before greenpath for a reason
Primal aspids being the worst enemy in the game is a meme more than it is an actual design issue
It is my own opinion and I know some friends who share this opinion
Realistically the most oppressive enemies in game are soul twisters, which while manageable are often pitted against low level players
Noted
I thought Elden ring would help souls players heal. Not break them
They were fucking hell to deal with in Colosseum of Fools and Kingdom's Edge was not fun in any of my HK playthroughs
But I mean we all have different opinions so 🤷
Colo is probably their easiest encounter, because you know where they’ll spawn every time, and can nail art them before they can begin to fire 
I too, am stating opinions
Whether they’re in a vacuum or a discussion is up to you
Def a pain in the ass for that one segment though
Okay actually this is a skill issue on my end but I fucking suck at using Nail arts, to this day I can barely fit them in the way I play the game
Spells work too
I'd probably switch the places of resting grounds and waterways in the list i've never heard of anyone excited going to the waterways
Not like you’re gonna heal during the midair sections
The tunnel system and design of the flukes makes waterways pretty fun
I think the acid lever stuff is weird though
And resting ground is a total nothing burger
idling again
Have you considered that nobody wants to farm this useless item 💔 🥀
I meant what I said about being unable to help
Idk how the sequel game works. Iirc use the extra floors or something
ik im just saying it for the funny
Or upgrade your other things with the other objectives
Shut your mossless ass up.
have you considered that the music is good
Why are you using 4 generators for one lane
Like two have enough speed to mantain its own lane
I have my fair share of moss after playing the game to ng+900 💔
If you think you have enough moss then you never would have had enough moss
Yeah but cutters and shit dont have the same speed as conveyors
If you have shapes waiting to enter a maching then you can split em
There is never too much moss
im using multiple cutters per lane
Huh? What shape
Are you idk the screenshots way too far up
Zoom in on your contraption
4
Yeah the shapes are still waiting
Those four lanes could be eight at best 6 at worst
Efficient factories have maximum output while also not having a backlogged input
shape io ? factorio rip off ?
Can’t eat my cookies and cream ice cream because I cut my lip give me one good reason
Shapez 2
Also combining them into a single belt at the end also slows it down by having them wait to merge
Just eat it bro what
If you fail to persist until tomorrow then the ice cream is mine
they're NOT idling
The massive fucking Band-Aid on my bottom lip is gonna annoy me too much to actually enjoy it
I'm waitin for the big June update to get back into Shapez 2
How badly did you manage to cut your lip to need a bandaid for it 😭
show me in what way are the shapes waiting
This dude plays in full top-down, gross
Literally waiting to be cut up at the first machine
Literally waiting to merge at the end of both factories
Wrought iron gate I’ve also got a broken nose and black eye 
That’s crazy you tried to give the gate a kiss or sm 😭 🙏
Everything is NOT coming up muffin
Forgive me if I’m just being a lobotomised idiot but what is this supposed to mean 😭
Like in the first two circles the shapes stop, get intk the cutter and the ones behind those stop for quite a bit
Same happens on the latter two but instead of getting onto machines theyre unnecessarily waiting to be merged into a lane
It’s a pretty old saying for everything going well for someone
am i being ragebaited right now
But I’m this case it’s not
Oh mb lmao
It’s ok I will forgive you
it produces a stable 60 shapes per minute there is no stopping at the start
It does not sound like it’s going good 🥀
Yeah that's not actually bottlenecking. If you split them into two lanes you'd probably see gaps every other shape from the time it takes to cut
It’s fine they’ll all heal so it’s better than damage to my teeth
Like literally just do this
-# shut the hell up
That’s so real I’d crash out if I fucked up my teeth
You make a factory go faster by making:
-even distribution
-larger number of actions to distribute to
You want more cutters.
Id never ragebait

When did we get the pale king in chat 😭
Day 147 of posting cardinals until silksong releases
If somethings slow just get more cutters
I’m a fucking miracle when it comes to my teeth I had an accident and had to get a bit of my jaw reconstructed but zero damage to my teeth it was sick
Well not zero but pretty minimal
That’s insane how do you manage to do these things, I’ve literally just broken my arm and that’s about it 😭
I dont need more cutters because im literally matching the ratio of cutters
GET MORE CUTTERS RAHH
Do you want to go faster or do you want to perfectly match belt speed
smh
I live dangerous style B) (also just a fucking dumbass)
I will cutter your brains
i'm literally producing exactly as much as i consume i dont understand how adding more cutters would speed it up
Lowkey, invest in becoming a redbull athlete
Yass bitch cut those cubes or something
Try it out then check if its sped up ever though about that
More cutters, backlog for mergers, more mergers, backlog in output pipe, more output pipe - more output
FASTER
refer to my initial introductory advice
but more shape generators isnt quite possible, no?
That is still, TRUEEE
I’m not the best athlete lol
If these are pipes that can produce at max output, then your output is at best at half of what it could be
it goes up to the second floor
Then idk what I’m talking about
Get like more cutters
Forgive them even if they are not sorry🔥✍️
But make it bigger
NOTHING CHANGED EXCEPT THAT THE CUTTERS ARE IDLING
Julian Casablancas in the 11th dimension music video whyyyyy why bring this wretched evil upon the world
Better to have cutters idling than a shspe backlog smh
All music videos should look like what it feels like to listen to the song
I agree
Probably not
The adults are talking by the strokes music video
Don’t care
I’ve actually never heard that song in its entirety
I DONT HAVE A SHAPE BACKLOG
Also animals is not specific enough for a song name
Imagine not being a shapez mastermind
If you’re at max possible production and still idling with no other objectives then shapez 2 is a bad game
it's not a bad game
Well I guess technically what it feels like to listen to the song is not the same as what the song is about, but also what you feel when listening to any given song could be entirely different from everyone else so the whole idea doesn't really work out anyway
the issue is that i'm playing the tutorial
[Redacted]👹
also that im dumping all my things into the main objective instead of the side one
Edith
Does the side objective increase production speed as a reward
yes
I’m going to laugh at you now
but it's the tutorial and it's ending in like 5 minutes anyway
The tutorial ends, the game begins, your factory still exists surely?
Otherwise wtf are you building and where
i dont actually know about that
I have my tutorial spaghetti still up and running in my actual endgame shapez game
Museum piece style
im unlocking this big thing next
Well you should increase production surely
Belt speed in my experience is highest priority
Cause duh. If belts are your weakest link then nothing can be faster than the belts
oh i can zoom out?
Also really high belt speed makes really large makeshift factories optimal which is based
holy fucking shit
surely it just had to be procedurally generated
Ya
Just look up the shape you need and make a train to it smh
Unlock your fucking upgrades man
And tap into those vast resources in space while you’re at it
Idk if you need space platforms or whatever
but someone somewhere out there can be robbed
It’s so free
There’s infinite ground and the islands of resources are ground with color or shape labels
Oh so the same thing but you dont need platforms or trains
This is my favorite beginner attempt at shapez 1 ever
Color goes in color hole, shape goes in shape hole, blue tunnels into green
ONLY ONE of those painters is active
????????? wtf is this
Peak
copying feels super weird
Don’t make me tap the sign
If you can highlight to select and then save/cut/copy/paste rotate a blueprint then yes
no i meant as in copying feels overtly complicated
Weird
wtf happening with the xbox dropdown lmaooo
xbox on some drugs
before it showed this shortly after it appeared
its so funny
apparently other people are seeing this HAHAHA
holy shit it just updated again and now its showing a bunch of minecraft editions
Xbox is having a stroke
its genuinely tweaking so hard right now
its not just silksong its a bunch of games on the xbox store tho
not any news but its really funny
deathly silk
oo hi-fi rush 2 sounds nice
It’s not technical issues because there’s Silksong this means Silksong tomorrow
I think the smart thing to do rn is sleep for 16 hours or till my face stops hurting
the smart thing to do is put half of your brain to sleep
Maybe like a quick 18 hour nap
and then wake it up then put the other half to sleep
18.5 hours maybe
💯 efficiency
one hundred year nap
See Mae gets it
Link:
did they release it yet
No
damn
muffin is literally the hero of time
Is this real?
Yeah
At a Museum Only
Oh man. ACMI is downgraded to playable deno
indicate that Team cherry WONT release the game, you have to go to that specific Museum to play everytime
deno
Yea
maybe it's gonna be the old demo
Which means maybe no game until November
as if there's any game at all
team cherry have been drinking beer and go catching bugs
but thats how losers think
silksong tommorow
not entirely
its confirmed to be playable the demo bit/it being playable first at ACMI is speculation
99% winrate
Huh
can you believe it guys! deltarune! just 28 days away!
woohoo! i am so happy about this information
shut up delter
Will Herobrine be in Silksong?
or runer idk
i think getting a little spoiled on deltarune then actually playing it is better than going in completely blind
I think not playing deltarune is actually a lot better
TRUE
only good game this year is ena dbbq
Nah
Definetly my favorite cooking sim of all time
where tf do i recognise that name from
its one of those games where its not really memorable but you still remember vivid parts of the game
how about monster hunter wild
only good game this year is ena dbbq
mh fans when they get to beat a monster doing the same 3 attacks for 45 minutes
Only good game that isn't from this year is Nine Sols
so goated on god
what the fuck is happening
someone at xbox pushed a broken git commit 
i think the playtime should be 2 hours
at least it's not a friday.
bro's watching anime without the anime part
Silksong will be playable at the ACMI museum ye (opens on 18th September), if the game is releasing before or after that is unknown
before
otherwise people could just spoil everything just because they went to this museum lol
First we silk, then we song. LET'S SILKSONG
unless theres the chance its like the demo from the treehouse stream again
but that would be stupid
its been like 6 or 5 years and they still had the same demo
yeah
i feel like summer would be a very good time to release it
on my way to museum in austria
thats not how you spell gauss trail ia
Bro's not gonna find the museum
Tbf despite that chance they're app gonna show the spritesheet of Hornet + logic of the game's most challenging bossfights, still p spoilery
Considering all of that I hope it is before but nothing confirmed yknow 
Where's this from?
tomorrow
Over here in Farloom, straight up silking it, and by "it" haha, let's just say... My Hornet
Don’t give me ideas
If you meet me out in quahog say hi
but if you see me at the clam im a talkative guy
I maybe have an obsession with looking for frames not on the spritesheet
Most of the missing ones seem to be tool animations or crests
consider
it would be so funny
i might do it after i finish some uni work
i need something to feed my silksong hyperfixation
Have you tried playing hollow knight to get rid of the silksong hyperfixation
I’ve been doing that
I got achievement for 100%-ing in under 20 hours last night
yo nice
Do what my bestie did and make a sculpture of your favourite character
already done that as well 😭
made a 3d print of the knight
a while ago
idk where it is tho
I’ve watched all the Mossbag Silksong analyses an unhealthy amount of times this week
Hornet surfboarding minigame with her needle when
ive been watching mossbag videos for fun as well recently
Me watching a mossbag silksong analysis video knowing full well all the points he's going to make 
I didn’t notice the vignette at least
Score one Mossbag
i was stuck in traffic for an hour so i listened to the hollow knight completely lore video while driving
Have you tried going insane
oh shit i need to do my host recording for DSN, im hosting in like 3 days
yes, i am clinically insane
i have no idea what to do for my host video, i was thinking of doing a song but idk if i have time
Well you've gotta do it day of so you know if there's any news(the answer will be no but still)
yes
ive hosted like 3 times now
this is the last time i hosted lol
https://youtu.be/UmVz0u8GCjY
more ravacheon https://ravarcheon.fanlink.to/profiles
more minuque @1020am
more shaniqua @1020am
the discord https://discord.gg/dailysilksongnews
my twitter https://twitter.com/DailySilksong
This channel was inspired by the Elden Ring News channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/EldenRingNews
What is your silk? A song of some kind?
also yes i am both "Minuque" and "Shaniqua"
i voiced both of them
because why not
You broke DSSN NDA I think it's time to kill you
fuck
the time i hosted before that someone thought i was british in the comment section
was the most shocking insult ive ever gotten
why would i ever willingly be british if i can help it
there is deep lore behind my name
that does not relate to Britain
Uncle iroh‽
to be completely honest i genuinely dont even remember why im named Tea
Coffee was taken
but I remember a bunch of people also named themselves Tea after me
those Tea's are since gone
oh thats why
i tagged some rajndom person by accident
impulsively changed my name to Tea as damage control??? i have no idea
Have you ever been bitten by a brit
every night i have to defend myself against british people
They spread that way
Happens to the best of us
Why is her little hornet out
nah its just a blurry sprite sheet do not fret
It's been this long might aswell stick to it
people recognize me by this so i might as well stck to it yeah
its my silksong identity
I wonder if the map system will get any changes
I adore Hollow Knight's map, I think it's like genius game design as far as I'm concerned
But I'm not entirely sure if it would be a great fit for Silksong just ported without changes
Idk there just hasn't been much indication that it would
I don't see what else there would be to expand ngl
yeah^
I love the hollow knight map
what else would you really add?
map
You can never get confused or bored because the map always tells you where you haven't been yet
one thing i wonder is whether seeing your location on the map would be like a wayward compass type thing or something you will have accessible from the beginning
Ye, those little gaps you find the map are really useful
There's a tool in the reveal trailer that looks like a compass
I don't like the wayward compass mechanic tbh
The reveal trailer has a compass so idk
that’s actually a big tin of butter cookies that’s filled with sewing supplies
if its a tool, and tools are typically upgradable, i wonder if theres like upgradale compasses
i have no idea how you would exactly make a compass upgradable tho
What would there be to upgrade
The game becomes 3d after you upgrade your compass
I'm guessing only the active consumable tools will be upgraded
i genuinely have no idea
you could make it so instead of needing the pen to mark stuff you need to upgrade the compass
remember the map in HK had other items you needed to buy for it
yeah id assume you might have stuff like that
from the blog posts, we've been told pretty explicitly that the map system will be very similar
so i guess theres that
I'm hoping at the very least you don't need to buy the quill anymore
to be completely honest, i dont mind that you have to buy the quill or that you dont initially have maps of areas, commiting areas to memory is quite fun
That's always just seemed a bit annoying and unnecessary
I'm fine with not starting with the maps of the area to be clear, and it's something I'm fully on board for with Silksong
if the quill is like something like low cost i dont mind
I think its actually better to not start with a map
It adds to the exploration aspect when you reach a new area
yeh
yeah
its a rly cool aspect
Still feels like you get to the same conclusion spending resources for it so 
This year has gone by sooooo fuckin fast
The faster the better
Is the consensus that it'll be June?
That is what I believe in
i think June makes sense
I'm hopeful for June but a month and a half seems so optimistic I'm leaning toward August personally
marketing wise i feel like June has so many opportunities to advertise the game
on very big platforms too
Deltarune and Silksong both coming out in June would do insane things to me
Sure why the fuck not
in the past that wouldn't have mattered as much since the game didnt have a release window or anything, but since theres a confirmed release for 2025, i feel like it just makes sense
yup
now that I look at it, Garmond looks like Jack Black
i want a random famous voice actor acting in silksong
oh wombat i listened to I'll Be Your Girl by The Decemberists today it was incredible
that would be really funny
yay
Chris Pratt
Chris Pratt, voicing hornet
We all know he's voicing hornet
Yea
peak cinema
i’ve created a couple new decemberistheads over my life now
I kind of just hope more well known community members get cameos tbh
araraura
He's earned it
i honestly feel like ararura deserves something
i feel like he played a huge role in driving the hype of silksong by creating the daily news channel
Nah I hope he gets nothing
fair enough good point
i’ll pass it along to him that the community believes he deserves nothing, thanks for the input
Good
spit in his tea while youre at it
DJ pichu is the entire hollow knight community
I'm surprised Leth never found the time to show up on DSN
Shhhh I don't want that revealed yet
he probably has the time, he's just uncontactable now because of the chronic fans
his dms are like disabled lol
Leth is just saving his appearance for the silksong release date
they used to not be because i had dms with him before regarding some weird thing to do with nintendo and his job i forgot
but they are like completely disabled now
oh yeah i was asking him what stock markets to invest into
I was discussing the release date with him a few days ago but I forgot what went on in it
Leth's actually my dad
graig is my long lost dad have you seen him
he's not coming back
He was dissapointed in you and left
Give him money if you ever want to see him again
Has Bob appeared yet‽
ive only commented on the r/silksong subreddit twice and both times my comment has been the top comment
this could fuel an addiction and is my sign to immediately mute the sub and leave
The closest Team Cherry "member" DSSN has gotten is Graig
no that would be sheen estevez
also me, ive hosted 3 times and Leth is my dad
im like basically part of Team Cherry
Damn Leth's my uncle and I hosted 3 times
is this what it means to “discover yourself”
i guess youre part of Team Cherry too
My entire life has been preparing for Silksong
This is what I was born for
also damn that would be a badass name for a horror game about doppelgangers
i mean we're all probably related to William, Ari, Jack and Leth in some way, so we are all probably part of Team Cherry
we should all get the role
you’re all human
We're all human so I say yes
who wants to check if 100 of yourselves can beat a gorrila??
not me tho
you're a wombat
truee
100 wombats probably could, I think their bite force is better than ours
My knowledge of Silksong will surely overwhelm the gorilla
I mean they would just do it faster than us, humans would also win
isn't wombat like a wolf??
no??
It's like a big rat but not a rodent (?)
it’s a marsupial
completely different kind of mammal from like 90% of other mammals
My encyclopedic knowledge of nearly every tiny thing that has ever been teased
kangaroos are also marsupials. it’s the pouch thing
Yeah those things, I was not awake enough to remember that word
but if you meant me im actually a wolf hybrid lion mix. king of the junjle but still social and ferocious

i know those
damn journalists be looking at the ACMI stuff and really saying whatever the fuck they want
Think it's really funny that IGN got a W and now all the other outlets are just trying to milk whatever they can out of someone else's one article
(A month after the ACMI thing was already formally announced)
all the joruanlist writing as if they know some extra insider info
"So I played the game, it was a game I played"
I mean they've been trying to milk stuff out of absolutely nothing for three or four years this isn't really that different
Like Graig comments, people misquoting leth etc
the ACMI thing will DEFINITELY have this and and DEFINITELY have that because my dad is Team Cherry and works at Ari Gibson
ACMI will have a real life Pharloom
ACMI will showcase my missing sock
ACMI will
Thanks to ACMI Australia will now have real spiders instead of the government drones bigger than your cat
Silksong will have ACMI Australia spiders
im just gonna drop this theory, im sure someone else has made it before
i wonder if when they say the world is ruled by silk and song, i wonder is Silk is the Soul bound whatchamfucker and Song is used to control people inflicted by Silk
so you "infect" a bug with Silk and control it with Song
idk
The puppetmaster theory was popular for a while
yeah i know that one
i wonder if bugs that play music or use music aren't affected by the silk or something
I feel like music is actually a way of avoiding being affected
i think so too, but i think its also the way bugs are affected
There is a specific song that 'infects' you?
considering the lines "at the first bell toll, do this, something something yadda yadda"
But those were probably from before the haunting began
nah, i think that Silk is used to infect you because its bound by soul, and Song is kinda like something that activates the spell or controls the silk within you
could be yeah, i have nothing to go off of really
just a fun theory
The allegiance of whatever is controlling the silk is still unclear
another thing I wonder is, Lace also has silk come off her when you fight her, so i wonder if shes haunted as well
Its trying to stop hornet on her journey, so one would think it is aligned against the citadel since they wanted to bring her there
Another thought was that it selects and chooses who to affect
i think they just wanted Hornet because she can make Silk, and they need Silk
That makes a lot of sense
I think this cannot be true. They seem to have plenty of silk just lying around everywhere
A special type of silk Hornet prob has
maybe Hornet has soul infused silk?
Weavers do too
yeah
She does, and she has a unique ability to control her silk
Thats not necessarily true
But it is
Hornet's silk is at least described as unique
i havent read into it to know lol
but if silk is lying around everywhere, then i guess it could make sense that hornets silk is special in some way
The weavers have already used silk as a medium before and they used it for a ton of shit back in the prime days of the Kingdom
Weavers may know how to infuse silk with Soul but i think it probably isnt like that right out the gate, while for Hornet it is
Sure
the silk we see some of the later game bosses in silksong use seem to be magical as well
Yeah
bosses or harder enemies i have no idea
Somewhat
Could the SoB in the cage be made of silk?
idk what SoB is
Possibly!
Seal of Binding
ah
Presumably
Possibly any seal must be made from silk! We dont know
But its also not a Seal of Binding 
maybe silk is just a really good medium to contain soul
But im willing to bet that silk is a required or at least preferred material for creating seals
One of the limited ways
we've seen soul contained in other things (i think?), i guess silk is just very effective at doing it
Is what i meant
WYM
A seal doesn't need silk but is just one of hte most accessible ways most prob
Well the silk doesnt seem to merely contain soul, and soul merely contained doesnt seem to have any special effects
yeah
So the silk is either channeling it or focusing to somehow achieve magical effects
Seals aren't just contained soul they are also magic glyphs
And there is steps you need to perform to get from soul to magic
Somehow
And its a bit mysterious atm
Sure but that's not relevant because the two groups making seals are innate spellcasters
And yet both use silk
No reason to think PK used silk for making his seals
he did tho
Source
He has a bunch of silk spools in the white palace stag station
That's just their chosen medium, it's naturally part of them so naturally it's easier (?) 
its in game lore im pretty sure, i remember cuz i heard it in the moss bag video i watched today while driving lol
For his workshop yes
No reason to tie that to seals
Or seals, equal possibility
cant remember the source but im pretty sure the seal used to keep the hollow knight in place was requested to be made by the Weaver by the Pale King
I mean the 3rd option is just for writing
someone else can find it if its true
i think its said in some dialogue or something
Well silk is literally in the workshop
ah i see
Fanon
Who's to say he doesnt make seals in the workshop
Darn environmental storytelling
He could but idk why silk would be necessary.
Who's to say he didnt use weavers to make the seals
Ye
i guess its just heavily implied that he did
When you're making the claim you have to provide evidence
Im just saying that rn silk is the only piece of evidence we have on how seals are created
that is true tbh
Silk is how the weavers used soul
PK uses soul without silk shenanigans why would he need it
since its the only place we see seals being explicitly created (i think?)
yeah i think soul and seals are definitely different
Oh so the weavers definitely left after the vessel was sealed
Very helpful information, did not know that
i am confused
They are soul glyphs
Avg lore user
Sees silk everywhere
Knows it can be used as a medium
Claims PK basically didn't use it for anything, not even the seal we see the weavers make with silk

Midwife also says this while Weaversong is equipped
"Amazing things the weavers once crafted on their looms; stories, shields, spells"
Its about as helpful as saying using essence doesn't translate to making essence seals like sure ig, doesn't really matter
Seems pretty undeniable that silk is at least A Way of creating seals
U gotta stop using made-up fanon names for stuff
This conversation is being steered by a bias that the pale King had unparalleled mastery over soul and could do whatever the fuck he wanted with it, so by that logic he would never use silk despite the clear uses of it that are shown
Uh huh
hellouzz gng 🥀 🥀 🥀
idk man im not even a lore fanatic i just enjoy talking about lore
You do realize the seal in Weaver's Den isn't doing anything right

wheres my hello back
Its unfinished clearly
It might be a blueprint or it could be a crude imitation either way its irrelevant
hello
is my mic on
But also its interesting to ask why its there in there first place
thank you gng 🌹 🌹 🌹
Yeah he just asked them for a rough draft that's all, no reason at all why it exists other than that 
That’s really funny to call it irrelevant
but why would it be entirely irrelevant, its there
Because it isn't functional
because its unfinished?
It in no way proves that silk is required to make seals
When it’s clearly put there for a reason 😭
Even if it doesn’t do anything it’s still proof the weavers were involved in the sealing of the Vessel somehow
Theres something weird about trying to find the least impactful most fence sitting conclusion about everything in lore
That's not what I'm doing
A scientific approach to something that isnt science
I'm also not saying its meaningless it just doesn't mean what you think it means
It’s fucking glowing
Its irrelevant to this specific conversation
Well i mean you can say that
Here's a crackhead theory for the Weaver den seal, it actually was part of the original seal. They tore it up on their way out to fuck up the kingdom even more because one of the weavers is evil 
Has it ever been outright confirmed that the Weavers are an actual force for good?
Its true that there is evidence to suggest not all seals need silk, like the grimm troupe map
this lore analysis is very confusingly goofy, as in its making me feel like everything in HK is meaningless
They were a large part of the progression of the kingdoms "technology" and they were some of the smartest bugs around, nothing about their alignment besides that they were with the spider tribe
my thoughts is:
- Not all seals need silk
- Silk is probably one of the ways to make seals
Yes
But also, the weavers den seal implies that PK used the weavers' help to create the black egg
How
Well why else would it be there
We don't know
Yeah I don’t think there’s any other reading of this that makes any sense whatsoever
Silk is a medium, crystals could be a medium, hell you could probably pour magic into metal and makes an enchanted door. Was this whole conversation about whether or not silk is inherently magical or something???
It was about if you can just make seals from soul without anything else or if you need silk or other special materials
I would say no I think you would need a medium
i wonder if maybe song can also be used to make Seals
💡About Hollow Knight: Silksong
THIS IS THE E3 DEMO
Play as Hornet, princess-protector of Hallownest, and adventure through a whole new kingdom ruled by silk and song! Captured and brought to this unfamiliar world, Hornet must battle foes and solve mysteries as she ascends on a deadly pilgrimage to the kingdom’s peak.
Hollow Knight: Silks...
All of the soul spells we see come out as temporary objects
cuz of the seals you see appear here when you ring the bell
Maybe PK got the weavers to make the seal of binding after he moved everything into the dream realm
Surely
Or rather I started arguing because Pengu said that PK didnt need silk to make any seals
Even if the actual seal in the black egg temple isn’t silk it at less demonstrates that silk is A Way of creating seals and the weavers played a role in the creation of the seal
That sounds even harder to do without a medium
Possibly as a schematic or a prototype that was later replicated, idk
maybe somethign to do with the way the bell is designed rather than being in the song itself
no idea
Anyway the seal being unfinished in the weavers den is very interesting
Like you yell a curse into a tin can on a string but by the time it reaches the other end it's gone, so how do you turn that into a long-term thing
maybe by incripting the seal onto the bell in some way
no idea man im just saying random shit at this point that could be as true as literally anything anyone else says
is seal discussion the new tools discussion
The trusty seal that appears when you ring a bell:
I’ve never been present for tools discussions
Do people think the orange bottle thingy is a bomb because I think it’s fanta that Hornet can drink to increase her damage 
Lets talk about benchs
That's doable
The most common I've seen is that it could maybe something like ice resistance?
nonononononono please don't add hot/cold drinks to SS
Does ice show up anywhere in Silksong teasers
They should add ice tea in silksong
Most clips seem to have it in the warmer climates from what I recall
i really hope Team Cherry adds a hunger and thirst mechanic to Silkssong, requiring Hornet to eat a healthy amount of food and drink a healthy amount of water as a good message and reminder to players to eat water and drink food
(Ignore Mario)
Seems like there's some type of effect applied at the corners of the screen
My headcanon is that Hornet eats like Spearmaster from Rain World
Siphon soul from her enemies with her needle
I knew about this, doesn’t seem like ice to me tho
how could you tell me to ignore Mario
Kinda feels like loose webs
Why have I seen like 17 different theories about what this area is when it's clearly a dead coral bed
make it so there is nutrient defficiency in Silksong. So if Hornet doesn't eat enough oranges/cherries, she gets scurvy, not enough calcium, she takes doube damage from everything because of weak bones ect
This implies you have eyes
now thats what i call a well designed game
What
You're an internet person you don't exist outside of the screen why would you have eyes
eat it
Ew no
i thought this was that deer guy from onepiece
nice cat
good protien
BALDUR?!?!?!
Also that was days ago, it's storming its ass off right now
Quirrel
Baldur???
Just like the hidden gem Hollow Knight?
i thought it was a grenade for a second
no way is that a 4 leaf clover?
??????
Small explosive
I didn't know real life took so much inspiration from Hollow Knight
It looks a lot like mold too
Team Cherry should at least be credited though
what will you name them
yes, just like the hit Australian Indie title Hollow Knight
no its actually a 57 leaf clover

I hate this so much btw
It’s so gross to imagine sliding down a huge mass of mold
btw, will the mods announce to the entire server if Silksong gets released?
nah they would just stay quiet about it
No they'll gaslight everyone to thinking it isn't
Red 40
who would be interested in knowing its released?
Put your eyes back on grandpa
i lived through the war.
same but actually, unless you mean actually as well
Did you walk uphill to school both ways‽
i moved to Aus cuz of war actually
snack
At any rate this definitely isn’t ice
its dandruff
Why does pharloom have so much coral was it previously underwater
i read coral george
I think the majority of the hollow knight world probably used to be underwater at some point
Except that one shot of the chase from the reveal trailer I think that room was unfinished lmfao
whcih one?
Did you flood the world
With the steel dude shooting lasers at Hornet
I love this shot
ah yeah i dont think theyre even meant to be there tho
mfw I'm exploring Coral Gorge and I hear this noise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuD5milggVE
RAHHHH
MONSTER HUNTER: WORLD™
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/tid=CUSA07713_00
i just realised, we havent actually seen any enemies for the coral gorge yet?
Really excited for this yeah
i think the steel assasins were just there as placeholders
None that I can think of?
I would hunt that thing down just for trying to bust my eardrums
Haven't we seen the boss guy‽
I find this unlikely tho
Other than the steel assassin and coral king boss, maybe this
irl walking in the park and you hear this
We’ve seen bosses but no north enemies
❌
ah well there u go
I blame my internet
Oh I love him
how come?
I mean just what makes you think that it is
cuz one of the characters has the same sprite shape as the sharpe Trio
They're assassins so I find it reasonable to be in places you don't expect
but idk
They're on that SA-X type shit
Yeah ? You meet the guy there what’s not to get
that could be true too
Anyone here play D&D? Or other TTRPGs? Interested in trying a hollow knight one?
I don't understand maps placing coral forest and the barnacle area separated
idk bro, they jsut seem mildly out of place to me ig? but i dont know any of the context or anything
It’s steel so it’s probably impervious to needle strikes
Neither
i know just about as much as the next joe
Seems strange
The whole map could have been previously underwater so having underwater themed areas be spread out would help this idea
Ergo probably not a conventional bossfight
im confused about the fishies you see in coral gorge, are they flying??
"Sharpe is a hunter from a distant land. He’s tasked with eliminating Hornet and he’s not come alone. Sharpe brings companions on his deadly quest. Who are they?"
ah i see
her NAME is barnacle BAY
Could probably separate them via the clover area as that one also has an aquatic theme, so its like clover in the middle, barnacles below and coral above
Personally My money is on it being a transitionary region between Greymoor and the Gorge
Having a town probably makes it its own area tbh
this is probably a slow as fuck take but i just realised the laser thingies are possibly just part of the main big thingy
Or at least a big sub-area
Yea
Almost certainly
idk why i posted a screnshot but i guess its nice to look at lol
Also this room was 100% unfinished I feel like, the background is super duper empty
On some Dragapult
I love Hollow Knight’s Golemancy
The Vessels, Mining Robots, Kingsmoulds, Steel Assassins, all bangers
yeah it does loo k a bit like that
you have some clues as to where Coral Gorge is based on this i feel
It's also def related to steel soul jinn, wonder if we'll get more of an explanation to whose Jinn's masters are
idk if we've seen another area with those kinds of shapes tho
Honestly I have no idea where coral gorge is in progression, it’s such a black sheep of a region
nvm i think i found the same background elements here??
They’re saving that for the final boss of hollow Knight 3 
Guys honest question
They’re in the Moss Grotto too
I’m guessing it’s the furthest east of the map and near the bottom, but blocked off to being later in the game
What hollow knight boss has the coolest entrance?
It is a gorge after all
so maybe both?? idfk
There’s only one correct answer here and we all know it
or its just a common cbacgkround element
Broken Vessel/Lost Kin is pretty cool
I like Kingdom’s Edge Hornet too
Honestly you might be surprised but Mine is Nosk

This is literally the coldest take it is possible to have
I love Nosk but they give me the heebiejeebs
Hmm
Soul master !
Idk there’s something super creepy about seeing another you when you know the game isnt multiplayer
Anyway
Multiplayer hollow knight would go hard
Official multiplayer I mean
I know there are mods for that
Oh it would for sure
i find it cool that the placement of some areas has been figured out somewhat possibly accurately
Coral Gorge is accessed by the falling elevator in the Xbox trailer so it’s lower down in pharloom but later in the game than the other lower regions, that’s my hot take 
Bro got them moves.
look at em go
But what does this even mean??
And the screenshot from the Nintendo articles is Hornet making her way back up after she fell 
Honestly remove the cat and just keep the smile it would be pretty spooky
too late
Also I have something to ask again
Since we’re all hollow knight fans if someone wanted to make a hollow knight horror game what do you guys think they should put into the game that would fit?
Nosk
Well yea but anything else?
Darkness, loud ass ost and nosk
….
Is that not allowed..?
Where skong? Tell me

Silk song and hollow knight are in the same boat aren’t day?
I mean it kind of disrupted an actual conversation we were having
not really
No offense but uh what conversation? It kinda just ended abruptly
Nobody said anything for some reason
What? About how hornet remove her poncho in a single frame on the leaked sprites? 
Collector.
Theres nothing much to discuss about silksong until the game releases tho. Hot take
Probably the only thing in the entire game that actually scared me.
That’s actually a good one but what about leg eater? They have some potential right?
y’all i did p5 but don’t have the steam achievement help
I mean, he sells stuff and just talks weirdly.
Which achievement
Did you let the entire ending play out? I forgot the exact moment you get the achievment
pantheon five achievement
I did
The only thing that scared me was jiji
ending cutscene
Why did she have to jump scare us like thah
Why did she scare you?
wait it’s just being buggy i think i have it actually mb
Lol
Just do it again
The first time you meet her she jumps out of nowhere
I really just love how this half of the chat sometimes is just “guys we new to to talk professionally and on topic” and then the other half is just like goofy and shit lol
You could rejoin the game? Ig
so close to 100% achievements
Idk, I never found that scary.
no it was yesterday I’m on a different device now and it’s just being a goober i hav the achievement
I wish I had the balls you have
Uh huh.
Lol, so whats next to you get 100% on steam
nObu
How is THIS scary? She looks like a cinnamon roll she’s so adorable!!!

i needa finish out mask and soul vessels, and do the steel soul stuff, kill nail master, kill zote, do hunter’s journal
Yknow whats scary? Radiance first time.
what if she takes off her hat and its just levi angstrom
Steel soul is actually easy
yeah
i just haven’t done it yet cause i’m doing everything I can do on one save first
Theres two you can do in one save, kill zote and steel soil
ye
Steel soil 
Jay jonah do u hate us? Why snail???
i rlly don’t wanna do flower quest
i wanna give flower to everyone who can get it and that’s gon take forever
It's not that bad
Dw it's not really that hard !
might just do steel soul to put it off
Absolutely
I literally had to close the game when I first fought the radiance
hi
Wait
Even tho I was already prepared. I just wasn’t expecting it.
Did you killed the forger guy?
Hi !
Wdym?
I meant to talk with @south vigil lol
why is hornet naked???
OH sorry!!
perfect decoration for us
Hashtag gaining
didn’t kill nailsmith
So you have to kill them in another save as well if I aint wrong
yeah imma do that on steel soul
Pee soul
Also did you saved the musical boi on grimn tents?
i didn’t finish grimm questline cause got lazy
that’s one of the last things for my 112
planning to banish on this save and fight on steel soul
So fun to do 112%
guess which achievement I'm missing
Yes have fun !
Hmm